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上野：不愿被称为“受害者”的心态叫“恐弱”。<br/> 第二章母女<br/> 铃木：我进入夜世界与母女之间的关系密不可分。<br/> 上野：我不禁想象：如果我有一个像你一样聪慧的女儿，会是怎样一幅景象。<br/> · · · · · · (<a href="javascript:$('#dir_35966120_short').hide();$('#dir_35966120_full').show();$.get('/j/subject/j_dir_count',{id:35966120});void(0);">更多</a>) </div> <div class="indent" id="dir_35966120_full" style="display:none"> 第一章情色资本<br/> 铃木：女性无法接受自己是“受害者”的态度，是否会阻碍女性运动？<br/> 上野：不愿被称为“受害者”的心态叫“恐弱”。<br/> 第二章母女<br/> 铃木：我进入夜世界与母女之间的关系密不可分。<br/> 上野：我不禁想象：如果我有一个像你一样聪慧的女儿，会是怎样一幅景象。<br/> 第三章恋爱与性<br/> 铃木：您明明饱尝“将身心扔进阴沟”的性，为何能对男性不感到绝望？<br/> 上野：恋爱是自我的斗争。我要成为“女人”，就需要“男人”作为恋爱游戏的对手。<br/> 第四章结婚<br/> 铃木：对基于恋爱的关系没有信心的我，也许就需要一份哪怕感情干涸也可以维系的婚姻契约。<br/> 上野：我无法忍受将性和爱置于权利和义务的关系之下，与拥有和被拥有的关系挂钩。<br/> 第五章认可欲求<br/> 铃木：性是可以出售的商品，这对什么都不是、没有安全感的年轻女人很重要。<br/> 上野：让我感到不可思议的是，拥有众多可利用资源的你竟有层层倒转的自我意识与自尊。<br/> 第六章能力<br/> 铃木：为得到怜爱与尊敬，AV女演员和高学历的头衔我都需要。<br/> 上野：被“独立女性”这一观念困住的我也许与你半斤八两。<br/> 第七章工作<br/> 铃木：往自己的人生中掺入多少“女人”的成分，大概是女学生的切实烦恼。<br/> 上野：刚出道的时候，人们说我是“利用男性凝视的商业女权”。<br/> 第八章独立<br/> 铃木：用后即弃的自由专栏作家，应该在什么时候做些能化作积淀的工作，这确实是个难题。<br/> 上野：你不必急于决定去向，不妨尝试一下新的主题和文风。<br/> 第九章团结<br/> 铃木：女人之间的友谊确实珍贵，但我认为它不如“家人”的纽带万能。<br/> 上野：人生路上有人相伴，这也许是幸运的，也可能是不幸的。不过到头来终究是“孤身一人”。<br/> 第十章女性主义<br/> 铃木：希望那些想要享受“做女人”的人也能接触到女性主义。<br/> 上野：女性主义是热火朝天的言论竞技场。没有异端审判，也没有除名。<br/> 第十一章自由<br/> 铃木：比起那些男性撰稿人替女性说话的作品，川端文学更有助于我们了解人性。<br/> 上野：人性中的卑劣和嗜虐永远都不可能消除。但社会的原则正在改变。<br/> 第十二章男人<br/> 铃木：看似“拎得清”，其实一直在抗争的女性斗士肯定积累了某种成果。<br/> 上野：将自身利益放在首位的女性定能改写女人的生存策略。<br/> · · · · · · (<a href="javascript:$('#dir_35966120_full').hide();$('#dir_35966120_short').show();void(0);">收起</a>) </div> <link rel="stylesheet" href="https://img1.doubanio.com/f/verify/a5bc0bc0aea4221d751bc4809fd4b0a1075ad25e/entry_creator/dist/author_subject/style.css"> <div id="author_subject" class="author-wrapper"> <div class="loading"></div> </div> <script type="text/javascript"> var answerObj = { TYPE: 'book', SUBJECT_ID: '35966120', ISALL: 'False' || false, USER_ID: 'None' } </script>  <script 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恋爱是自我的斗争。我要成为“女人”，就需要“男人”作为恋爱游戏的对手。而且我深刻认识到，我对女性身份的认同依赖于男人的存在。我也正是因此才意识到自己是一个“异性恋的女人”。当我意识到自己的性别认同是异性恋时，我便不由自主地想去寻求男人，也确实那样做了。然而，在恋爱这种游戏中，女人的赌注和男人的赌注从来都不对等。当女人拿自我下注时，男人只押上了一小部分。这就是为什么《死之棘》·中的妻子坚持要丈夫把一切都押上。也正是出于这个原因，吉本隆明在《共同幻想论》中深入探讨了岛尾敏雄的《死之棘》。小林秀雄还说过“女人是我成长的地方”。我至今相信，恋爱是谈了比不谈好。因为在恋爱的游戏场上，人能够深入学习自己和他人。恋爱会帮助我们了解自己的欲望、嫉妒、控制欲、利己心、宽容和超脱。恋爱是斗争的平台，你要夺取对方的自我，并放弃自己的自我。我从不认为恋爱是一种放纵的体验。在恋爱的过程中，我们受到伤害，也互相伤害，借此艰难地摸清无论如何都不能让渡给他人的自我防线，以及对方那条无法逾越的自我界线。我向来认为恋爱不会蒙蔽一个人的双眼，恰恰相反，恋爱是一种“面对对方时极度清醒，以至于在旁人看来无比疯狂”的状态。跟一个爱上窝囊废的女人列举男方的多少缺点都是徒劳，因为她早就一清二楚。正因为对情人的弱点了如指掌，才能比其他人更残酷地伤害对方。 …… 再补充一下，恋爱绝不是死死捍卫自我界限的游戏，而是通过狠狠品味与自己不同的他人的反应，同时了解自己和他人的过程。在此过程中，我们也能确认“他人与自己存在绝对的隔绝”，“我们永远无法拥有或控制他人”。恋爱非但没有使人与人相融，反而引领我们走向孤独。而这种孤独是多么畅快。我曾写过这样一句话：“所谓成熟，就是提高他人在你心中的吃水线。”正是通过这种“殊死搏斗”，我才能对他人更加宽容。就算不进行这种野蛮的行为，人也能活下去，也可以做爱，也可以组建家庭。我曾怀疑许多结婚... 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class="vote-count">60</span> <a id="btn-4112658214" href="" class="j a_show_login" data-cid="4112658214">有用</a> </span> <span class="comment-info"> <a href="https://www.douban.com/people/145300949/">不见山</a> <span class="user-stars allstar40 rating" title="推荐"></span> <a class="comment-time" href="/comment/4112658214">2024-03-02 20:15:37</a> <span class="comment-location">陕西</span> </span> </h3> <p class="comment-content"> <span class="short">很遗憾读到最后也没有解答如何不对男性失望的问题（真的有不让人失望的男性存在吗？），讨论区的某些言论又再次加剧了我的刻板印象。</span> </p> <div class="report-comment" data-url="https://book.douban.com/subject/35966120/?comment_id=4112658214"></div> </div> </li> <li class="comment-item" data-cid="3997310050"> <div class="comment"> <h3> <span class="comment-vote"> <span id="c-3997310050" class="vote-count">48</span> <a id="btn-3997310050" href="" class="j a_show_login" data-cid="3997310050">有用</a> </span> <span class="comment-info"> <a href="https://www.douban.com/people/45726467/">何足道哉</a> <span class="user-stars allstar10 rating" title="很差"></span> <a class="comment-time" href="/comment/3997310050">2023-11-21 02:41:00</a> <span class="comment-location">北京</span> </span> </h3> <p class="comment-content"> <span class="short">20231121快速通读了遍，整本书写得佶屈聱牙，读起来特别难受。铃木凉美、上野千鹤子都是日本人，小日本与我国的文化传统、社会习俗、国情历史等相差甚多，不足以借鉴。好奇又搜下上野千鹤子的简历，支持港毒、为日军强征慰安妇洗地等行为让我非常反感，作为一名女性主义学者，却有如此双标和反智的行为，人品与思想要打个大大的问号。差评！</span> </p> <div class="report-comment" data-url="https://book.douban.com/subject/35966120/?comment_id=3997310050"></div> </div> </li> <li class="comment-item" data-cid="3729102796"> <div class="comment"> <h3> <span class="comment-vote"> <span id="c-3729102796" class="vote-count">103</span> <a id="btn-3729102796" href="" class="j a_show_login" data-cid="3729102796">有用</a> </span> <span class="comment-info"> <a href="https://www.douban.com/people/57968473/">Yvonne-Yang</a> <span class="user-stars allstar10 rating" title="很差"></span> <a class="comment-time" href="/comment/3729102796">2023-03-25 23:37:43</a> <span class="comment-location">新疆</span> </span> </h3> <p class="comment-content"> <span class="short">好了，人的时间是有限的，而时间就是生命，这本书就看到这里吧。目前为止不赞同此书观点，倒是可以通过本书了解一下日本女性，但估计也有以偏概全的嫌疑。此书太过于男女对立，估计也和日本社会脱不开关系，就我目前的了解，日本是性产业发达，而且日本女性地位相比中国女性是低于中国的。本书的一大缺点就是两个女人一直在说性，看的人神烦。关注的点太小，局限于表面，流于形式。透视社会依次有三个层面：技术、制度和文...</span> <span class="hide-item full">好了，人的时间是有限的，而时间就是生命，这本书就看到这里吧。目前为止不赞同此书观点，倒是可以通过本书了解一下日本女性，但估计也有以偏概全的嫌疑。此书太过于男女对立，估计也和日本社会脱不开关系，就我目前的了解，日本是性产业发达，而且日本女性地位相比中国女性是低于中国的。本书的一大缺点就是两个女人一直在说性，看的人神烦。关注的点太小，局限于表面，流于形式。透视社会依次有三个层面：技术、制度和文化。这本书的每一章都没有说到以上的内容，更没有深刻的理论依据，逻辑剖析。关于女性主义的问题，还是多看看马克思。看待问题的维度也更高，更接近于本质。再来说说翻译，也很一般，可读性也不强，所以这本书在各大平台是怎么获得如此高的分数的？</span> <span class="expand">(<a href="javascript:;">展开</a>)</span> </p> <div class="report-comment" data-url="https://book.douban.com/subject/35966120/?comment_id=3729102796"></div> </div> </li> </ul> </div> </div> <script 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class="buylink-price "> 29.50元 </span> </a> </div> <div class="cell"> <a href="https://book.douban.com/link2/?lowest=2340&pre=0&vendor=jingdong&srcpage=subject&price=2950&pos=1&url=https%3A%2F%2Funion-click.jd.com%2Fjdc%3Fe%3D%26p%3DJF8BAQIJK1olXwIEVFxdAE8SBV8IGVkcXAIHVG4ZVxNJXF9RXh5UHw0cSgYYXBcIWDoXSQVJQwYAVldcDE4XHDZNRwYlXQdkCV42dEp3YStvbDsLHAFEMhY7TkcbM2gNHF0SVAUFZF5ZCU8TM18IGmtHM9604ob4uVfDqeDdk8wlXwYDVVtdAEIeAV8IHV4UXAEHVFdYAUsUM28AH2vM3bHU9syElsHCi_g4K2sWbTYyVG5eOBV5AjwPHg8UWQBsCFgIURtCRTlmG1gXWwMAVW5fCUoVAV84KyF8CU18URkKWAxNZhwNYyFpIQZZJgkKSSUVeRJJciFeLXRSHRcnYTVWZw84GGs&cntvendor=5&srcsubj=35966120&type=bkbuy&subject=35966120" class="buy-book-btn paper-book-btn" onclick="track('https://frodo.douban.com/rohirrim/tracking/click?subject_id=35966120&isbn=7513349363&source=jingdong&user_id=&bid=21oTsPiQ74g&platform=pc&location=vendor_subject')"> <span>购买纸质书</span> </a> </div> </div> </div> </li> <li> <div class="cell price-btn-wrapper"> <div class="vendor-name"> <a target="_blank" href="https://book.douban.com/link2/?lowest=2340&pre=0&vendor=dangdang&srcpage=subject&price=2950&pos=4&url=https%3A%2F%2Funion.dangdang.com%2Ftransfer.php%3Ffrom%3DP-306226-0-s35966120%26backurl%3Dhttps%3A%2F%2Fproduct.dangdang.com%2Fproduct.aspx%3Fproduct_id%3D29458676&cntvendor=5&srcsubj=35966120&type=bkbuy&subject=35966120" onclick="track('https://frodo.douban.com/rohirrim/tracking/click?subject_id=35966120&isbn=7513349363&source=dangdang&user_id=&bid=21oTsPiQ74g&platform=pc&location=vendor_subject')"> <span>当当网</span> </a> </div> <div class="cell impression_track_mod_buyinfo" data-track="https://frodo.douban.com/rohirrim/tracking/impression?subject_id=35966120&isbn=7513349363&source=dangdang&user_id=&bid=21oTsPiQ74g&platform=pc&location=vendor_subject"> <div class="cell price-wrapper"> <a target="_blank" 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data-track="https://frodo.douban.com/rohirrim/tracking/impression?subject_id=35966120&isbn=7513349363&source=bookschina&user_id=&bid=21oTsPiQ74g&platform=pc&location=vendor_subject"> <div class="cell price-wrapper"> <a target="_blank" href="https://book.douban.com/link2/?lowest=2340&pre=0&vendor=bookschina&srcpage=subject&price=2340&pos=1&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.bookschina.com%2Funion%2Fubook.asp%3Fadservice%3D354872%26tourl%3Dhttp%3A%2F%2Fwww.bookschina.com%2F5924203.htm&cntvendor=5&srcsubj=35966120&type=bkbuy&subject=35966120" onclick="track('https://frodo.douban.com/rohirrim/tracking/click?subject_id=35966120&isbn=7513349363&source=bookschina&user_id=&bid=21oTsPiQ74g&platform=pc&location=vendor_subject')"> <span class="buylink-price "> 23.40元 </span> </a> </div> <div class="cell"> <a href="https://book.douban.com/link2/?lowest=2340&pre=0&vendor=bookschina&srcpage=subject&price=2340&pos=1&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.bookschina.com%2Funion%2Fubook.asp%3Fadservice%3D354872%26tourl%3Dhttp%3A%2F%2Fwww.bookschina.com%2F5924203.htm&cntvendor=5&srcsubj=35966120&type=bkbuy&subject=35966120" class="buy-book-btn paper-book-btn" onclick="track('https://frodo.douban.com/rohirrim/tracking/click?subject_id=35966120&isbn=7513349363&source=bookschina&user_id=&bid=21oTsPiQ74g&platform=pc&location=vendor_subject')"> <span>购买纸质书</span> </a> </div> </div> </div> </li> </ul> </div> <div class="add2cartContainer no-border"> <span class="add2cartWidget ll"> <a class="j add2cart a_show_login" href="https://www.douban.com/accounts/passport/login?source=book" rel="nofollow"> <span>+ 加入购书单</span></a> </span> </div> </div> <script> $(document).ready(function() { $('.impression_track_mod_buyinfo').each(function(i, item) { if (item) { var itmbUrl = $(item)[0]['dataset']['track'] reportTrack(itmbUrl) } 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onclick="track('https://frodo.douban.com/rohirrim/tracking/click?subject_id=35966120&isbn=7513349363&source=douban_read&user_id=&bid=21oTsPiQ74g&platform=pc&location=vender_subject_text')"> 豆瓣阅读 </a> </div> <a class="vendor-link" target="_blank" href="https://read.douban.com/reader/ebook/407667944?from=book" data-track="https://frodo.douban.com/rohirrim/tracking/impression?subject_id=35966120&isbn=7513349363&source=douban_read&user_id=&bid=21oTsPiQ74g&platform=pc&location=vender_subject_text" onclick="track('https://frodo.douban.com/rohirrim/tracking/click?subject_id=35966120&isbn=7513349363&source=douban_read&user_id=&bid=21oTsPiQ74g&platform=pc&location=vender_subject_text')"> 在线阅读 </a> </div> <div class="online-read-or-audio"> <div class="vendor-info"> <img class="vendor-icon" src="https://img1.doubanio.com/f/frodo/88a62f5e0cf9981c910e60f4421c3e66aac2c9bc/pics/vendors/bilibili.png" /> <a class="vendor-name impression_track_mod_buyinfo" target="_blank" href="https://m.bilibili.com/video/BV1Ng4y1W78M?bsource=activity_24book_douban_ad_url_" data-track="https://frodo.douban.com/rohirrim/tracking/impression?subject_id=35966120&isbn=7513349363&source=bilibili&user_id=&bid=21oTsPiQ74g&platform=pc&location=vender_subject_text" onclick="track('https://frodo.douban.com/rohirrim/tracking/click?subject_id=35966120&isbn=7513349363&source=bilibili&user_id=&bid=21oTsPiQ74g&platform=pc&location=vender_subject_text')"> 哔哩哔哩 </a> </div> <a class="vendor-link" target="_blank" href="https://m.bilibili.com/video/BV1Ng4y1W78M?bsource=activity_24book_douban_ad_url_" data-track="https://frodo.douban.com/rohirrim/tracking/impression?subject_id=35966120&isbn=7513349363&source=bilibili&user_id=&bid=21oTsPiQ74g&platform=pc&location=vender_subject_text" onclick="track('https://frodo.douban.com/rohirrim/tracking/click?subject_id=35966120&isbn=7513349363&source=bilibili&user_id=&bid=21oTsPiQ74g&platform=pc&location=vender_subject_text')"> 视频讲书 </a> </div> <div class="online-read-or-audio"> <div class="vendor-info"> <img class="vendor-icon" src="https://img1.doubanio.com/f/rohirrim/88a62f5e0cf9981c910e60f4421c3e66aac2c9bc/website/static/pics/icon/icon_bilibili.png" /> <a class="vendor-name impression_track_mod_buyinfo" target="_blank" href="https://m.bilibili.com/video/BV1C24y1J7L1?bsource=activity_24book_douban_ad_url_" data-track="https://frodo.douban.com/rohirrim/tracking/impression?subject_id=35966120&isbn=7513349363&source=bilibili&user_id=&bid=21oTsPiQ74g&platform=pc&location=vender_subject_text" onclick="track('https://frodo.douban.com/rohirrim/tracking/click?subject_id=35966120&isbn=7513349363&source=bilibili&user_id=&bid=21oTsPiQ74g&platform=pc&location=vender_subject_text')"> 哔哩哔哩 </a> </div> <a class="vendor-link" target="_blank" href="https://m.bilibili.com/video/BV1C24y1J7L1?bsource=activity_24book_douban_ad_url_" data-track="https://frodo.douban.com/rohirrim/tracking/impression?subject_id=35966120&isbn=7513349363&source=bilibili&user_id=&bid=21oTsPiQ74g&platform=pc&location=vender_subject_text" onclick="track('https://frodo.douban.com/rohirrim/tracking/click?subject_id=35966120&isbn=7513349363&source=bilibili&user_id=&bid=21oTsPiQ74g&platform=pc&location=vender_subject_text')"> 免费听书 </a> </div> <div class="online-read-or-audio"> <div class="vendor-info"> <img class="vendor-icon" src="https://img1.doubanio.com/f/rohirrim/161387ce451872cbf51fcb288cd5ffd1dcd89705/website/static/pics/icon/icon_dedao.png" /> <a class="vendor-name impression_track_mod_buyinfo" target="_blank" href="https://www.dedao.cn/ebook/reader?id=YxRj1dbLGNgA2oaD6VBevmQZ7rnbYWmZno3kyOKRMzJpX9lP5dxqE41j8De2pmOP&source=douban" data-track="https://frodo.douban.com/rohirrim/tracking/impression?subject_id=35966120&isbn=7513349363&source=dedao&user_id=&bid=21oTsPiQ74g&platform=pc&location=vender_subject_text" onclick="track('https://frodo.douban.com/rohirrim/tracking/click?subject_id=35966120&isbn=7513349363&source=dedao&user_id=&bid=21oTsPiQ74g&platform=pc&location=vender_subject_text')"> 得到 </a> </div> <a class="vendor-link" target="_blank" href="https://www.dedao.cn/ebook/reader?id=YxRj1dbLGNgA2oaD6VBevmQZ7rnbYWmZno3kyOKRMzJpX9lP5dxqE41j8De2pmOP&source=douban" data-track="https://frodo.douban.com/rohirrim/tracking/impression?subject_id=35966120&isbn=7513349363&source=dedao&user_id=&bid=21oTsPiQ74g&platform=pc&location=vender_subject_text" onclick="track('https://frodo.douban.com/rohirrim/tracking/click?subject_id=35966120&isbn=7513349363&source=dedao&user_id=&bid=21oTsPiQ74g&platform=pc&location=vender_subject_text')"> 在线试读 </a> </div> </div> </div> <link rel="stylesheet" href="https://img1.doubanio.com/cuphead/book-static/subject/works.4fdcb.css"> <div class="gray_ad version_works"> <h2> <span>这本书的其他版本</span> ······ <span class="pl"> ( <a href="https://book.douban.com/works/1146822">全部3</a> ) </span> </h2> <ul> <li class="mb8 pl"> <div class="meta-wrapper"> <div class="meta"> <a href="https://book.douban.com/subject/35601418/">幻冬舎（2021）</a> <div class="count"> <span>9.0分</span> 68人读过 </div> </div> <div class="fold-btn"> <a href="javascript:void(0);"><span>展开</span>有售 (1)</a> </div> </div> <ul class="buyinfo" style="display: none;"> <ul class="bs current-version-list"> <li> <div class="cell price-btn-wrapper"> <div class="vendor-name"> <a target="_blank" href="https://book.douban.com/link2/?pre=0&vendor=jingdong&srcpage=subject&price=14200&pos=1&url=https%3A%2F%2Funion-click.jd.com%2Fjdc%3Fe%3D%26p%3DJF8BAQQJK1olVQIHVVhfD0sfM28JGlwdVAYDV1ZbDUsVMytXQwVKbV9HER8fA1UJWypcR0ROCBlQCgJDCEoWBGcBG1oWVQAHVFxCUQ5LXl8OSQtpWGRYTj1ZajBgGTV1TQVpHFZUWFJtD04QBWgBGFwlXQIDUFptOEsWMy5mHV0VVQQyVl5cCU4XC2YBHmsVWwMDVVlcCUgeA2YPK1sdWTbb1OmLqtnOneXdk8wlbTYBZG5tCHsUMzFmGggSWFIDUV8zVE1CVypYRxp7VQMKVlZYOEkWAm0KK2slDlxAJwFYai8RdiZgbytjNFBrMAtVYE1cbW0LHQVPFHVSP1gnDSpkCyh4emsWbQ&srcsubj=35966120&type=bkbuy&subject=35966120" onclick="track('https://frodo.douban.com/rohirrim/tracking/click?subject_id=35966120&isbn=7513349363&source=jingdong&user_id=&bid=21oTsPiQ74g&platform=pc&location=vendor_subject')"> <span>京东商城</span> </a> </div> <div class="cell impression_track_manually" data-track="https://frodo.douban.com/rohirrim/tracking/impression?subject_id=35966120&isbn=7513349363&source=jingdong&user_id=&bid=21oTsPiQ74g&platform=pc&location=vendor_subject"> <div class="cell price-wrapper"> <a target="_blank" href="https://book.douban.com/link2/?pre=0&vendor=jingdong&srcpage=subject&price=14200&pos=1&url=https%3A%2F%2Funion-click.jd.com%2Fjdc%3Fe%3D%26p%3DJF8BAQQJK1olVQIHVVhfD0sfM28JGlwdVAYDV1ZbDUsVMytXQwVKbV9HER8fA1UJWypcR0ROCBlQCgJDCEoWBGcBG1oWVQAHVFxCUQ5LXl8OSQtpWGRYTj1ZajBgGTV1TQVpHFZUWFJtD04QBWgBGFwlXQIDUFptOEsWMy5mHV0VVQQyVl5cCU4XC2YBHmsVWwMDVVlcCUgeA2YPK1sdWTbb1OmLqtnOneXdk8wlbTYBZG5tCHsUMzFmGggSWFIDUV8zVE1CVypYRxp7VQMKVlZYOEkWAm0KK2slDlxAJwFYai8RdiZgbytjNFBrMAtVYE1cbW0LHQVPFHVSP1gnDSpkCyh4emsWbQ&srcsubj=35966120&type=bkbuy&subject=35966120" onclick="track('https://frodo.douban.com/rohirrim/tracking/click?subject_id=35966120&isbn=7513349363&source=jingdong&user_id=&bid=21oTsPiQ74g&platform=pc&location=vendor_subject')"> <span class="buylink-price "> 142.00元 </span> </a> </div> <div class="cell"> <a 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