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href="#AI_generated_content"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">2.2</span> <span>AI generated content</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">2 comments</span> <ul id="toc-AI_generated_content-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Longest_Wikipedia_Page_Title" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-2"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Longest_Wikipedia_Page_Title"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">2.3</span> <span>Longest Wikipedia Page Title</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">2 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Longest_Wikipedia_Page_Title-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-How_can_I_promote_discussion_that_I_opened?" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-2"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#How_can_I_promote_discussion_that_I_opened?"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">2.4</span> <span>How can I promote discussion that I opened?</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">4 comments</span> <ul id="toc-How_can_I_promote_discussion_that_I_opened?-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-I_received_an_email_from_a_user_to_close_a_discussion_-_I'd_like_to_ask_for_feedback_here_as_to_what_to_do" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-2"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#I_received_an_email_from_a_user_to_close_a_discussion_-_I'd_like_to_ask_for_feedback_here_as_to_what_to_do"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">2.5</span> <span>I received an email from a user to close a discussion - I'd like to ask for feedback here as to what to do</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">4 comments</span> <ul id="toc-I_received_an_email_from_a_user_to_close_a_discussion_-_I'd_like_to_ask_for_feedback_here_as_to_what_to_do-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> </ul> </li> <li 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</div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">8 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Sources-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Notifications_for_WP:Peer_review_requests" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-2"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Notifications_for_WP:Peer_review_requests"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">3.4</span> <span>Notifications for WP:Peer review requests</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">7 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Notifications_for_WP:Peer_review_requests-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Could_someone_look_something_up_for_me_in_the_Wikipedia_Library?" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-2"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Could_someone_look_something_up_for_me_in_the_Wikipedia_Library?"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">3.5</span> <span>Could someone look something up for me in the Wikipedia Library?</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">5 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Could_someone_look_something_up_for_me_in_the_Wikipedia_Library?-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Linking_to_visible_anchors" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-2"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Linking_to_visible_anchors"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">3.6</span> <span>Linking to visible anchors</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">2 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Linking_to_visible_anchors-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-March_17" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1 vector-toc-list-item-expanded"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#March_17"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">4</span> <span>March 17</span> </div> </a> <button aria-controls="toc-March_17-sublist" class="cdx-button cdx-button--weight-quiet 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data-language-local-name="Arabic" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>العربية</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-an mw-list-item"><a href="https://an.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Tabierna/Aduya" title="Wikipedia:Tabierna/Aduya – Aragonese" lang="an" hreflang="an" data-title="Wikipedia:Tabierna/Aduya" data-language-autonym="Aragonés" data-language-local-name="Aragonese" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>Aragonés</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-az mw-list-item"><a href="https://az.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vikipediya:Yard%C4%B1m_masas%C4%B1" title="Vikipediya:Yardım masası – Azerbaijani" lang="az" hreflang="az" data-title="Vikipediya:Yardım masası" data-language-autonym="Azərbaycanca" data-language-local-name="Azerbaijani" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>Azərbaycanca</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-azb mw-list-item"><a href="https://azb.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%88%DB%8C%DA%A9%DB%8C%E2%80%8C%D9%BE%D8%AF%DB%8C%D8%A7:%DA%A9%D9%86%D8%AF_%D9%85%D8%A6%DB%8C%D8%AF%D8%A7%D9%86%DB%8C/%DA%A9%D8%A4%D9%85%DA%A9_%D9%85%DB%8C%D8%B2%DB%8C" title="ویکیپدیا:کند مئیدانی/کؤمک میزی – South Azerbaijani" lang="azb" hreflang="azb" data-title="ویکیپدیا:کند مئیدانی/کؤمک میزی" data-language-autonym="تۆرکجه" data-language-local-name="South Azerbaijani" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>تۆرکجه</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-bn mw-list-item"><a href="https://bn.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E0%A6%89%E0%A6%87%E0%A6%95%E0%A6%BF%E0%A6%AA%E0%A6%BF%E0%A6%A1%E0%A6%BF%E0%A6%AF%E0%A6%BC%E0%A6%BE:%E0%A6%B8%E0%A6%BE%E0%A6%B9%E0%A6%BE%E0%A6%AF%E0%A7%8D%E0%A6%AF%E0%A6%95%E0%A7%87%E0%A6%A8%E0%A7%8D%E0%A6%A6%E0%A7%8D%E0%A6%B0" title="উইকিপিডিয়া:সাহায্যকেন্দ্র – Bangla" lang="bn" hreflang="bn" data-title="উইকিপিডিয়া:সাহায্যকেন্দ্র" data-language-autonym="বাংলা" data-language-local-name="Bangla" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>বাংলা</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-ca mw-list-item"><a href="https://ca.wikipedia.org/wiki/Viquip%C3%A8dia:La_taverna/Ajuda" title="Viquipèdia:La taverna/Ajuda – Catalan" lang="ca" hreflang="ca" data-title="Viquipèdia:La taverna/Ajuda" data-language-autonym="Català" data-language-local-name="Catalan" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>Català</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-cs mw-list-item"><a href="https://cs.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedie:Pot%C5%99ebuji_pomoc" title="Wikipedie:Potřebuji pomoc – Czech" lang="cs" hreflang="cs" data-title="Wikipedie:Potřebuji pomoc" data-language-autonym="Čeština" data-language-local-name="Czech" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>Čeština</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-de mw-list-item"><a href="https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Fragen_zur_Wikipedia" title="Wikipedia:Fragen zur Wikipedia – German" lang="de" hreflang="de" data-title="Wikipedia:Fragen zur Wikipedia" data-language-autonym="Deutsch" data-language-local-name="German" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>Deutsch</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-dv mw-list-item"><a href="https://dv.wikipedia.org/wiki/%DE%88%DE%A8%DE%86%DE%A8%DE%95%DE%A9%DE%91%DE%A8%DE%87%DE%A7:%DE%87%DE%AC%DE%80%DE%A9_%DE%89%DE%AD%DE%92%DE%AA" title="ވިކިޕީޑިއާ:އެހީ މޭޒު – Divehi" lang="dv" hreflang="dv" data-title="ވިކިޕީޑިއާ:އެހީ މޭޒު" data-language-autonym="ދިވެހިބަސް" data-language-local-name="Divehi" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>ދިވެހިބަސް</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-el mw-list-item"><a href="https://el.wikipedia.org/wiki/%CE%92%CE%B9%CE%BA%CE%B9%CF%80%CE%B1%CE%AF%CE%B4%CE%B5%CE%B9%CE%B1:%CE%92%CE%BF%CE%AE%CE%B8%CE%B5%CE%B9%CE%B1_%CF%87%CF%81%CE%B7%CF%83%CF%84%CF%8E%CE%BD" title="Βικιπαίδεια:Βοήθεια χρηστών – Greek" lang="el" hreflang="el" data-title="Βικιπαίδεια:Βοήθεια χρηστών" data-language-autonym="Ελληνικά" data-language-local-name="Greek" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>Ελληνικά</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-es mw-list-item"><a href="https://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Caf%C3%A9/Archivo/Ayuda/Actual" title="Wikipedia:Café/Archivo/Ayuda/Actual – Spanish" lang="es" hreflang="es" data-title="Wikipedia:Café/Archivo/Ayuda/Actual" data-language-autonym="Español" data-language-local-name="Spanish" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>Español</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-fa mw-list-item"><a href="https://fa.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%88%DB%8C%DA%A9%DB%8C%E2%80%8C%D9%BE%D8%AF%DB%8C%D8%A7:%D8%AF%D8%B1%D8%AE%D9%88%D8%A7%D8%B3%D8%AA_%D8%B1%D8%A7%D9%87%D9%86%D9%85%D8%A7%DB%8C%DB%8C" title="ویکیپدیا:درخواست راهنمایی – Persian" lang="fa" hreflang="fa" data-title="ویکیپدیا:درخواست راهنمایی" data-language-autonym="فارسی" data-language-local-name="Persian" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>فارسی</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-gl mw-list-item"><a href="https://gl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:A_Taberna_(axuda)" title="Wikipedia:A Taberna (axuda) – Galician" lang="gl" hreflang="gl" data-title="Wikipedia:A Taberna (axuda)" data-language-autonym="Galego" data-language-local-name="Galician" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>Galego</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-ko mw-list-item"><a href="https://ko.wikipedia.org/wiki/%EC%9C%84%ED%82%A4%EB%B0%B1%EA%B3%BC:%EC%A7%88%EB%AC%B8%EB%B0%A9" title="위키백과:질문방 – Korean" lang="ko" hreflang="ko" data-title="위키백과:질문방" data-language-autonym="한국어" data-language-local-name="Korean" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>한국어</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-id mw-list-item"><a href="https://id.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Warung_Kopi/Meja_penolong" title="Wikipedia:Warung Kopi/Meja penolong – Indonesian" lang="id" hreflang="id" data-title="Wikipedia:Warung Kopi/Meja penolong" data-language-autonym="Bahasa Indonesia" data-language-local-name="Indonesian" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>Bahasa Indonesia</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-it mw-list-item"><a href="https://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aiuto:Sportello_informazioni" title="Aiuto:Sportello informazioni – Italian" lang="it" hreflang="it" data-title="Aiuto:Sportello informazioni" data-language-autonym="Italiano" data-language-local-name="Italian" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>Italiano</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-he mw-list-item"><a href="https://he.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D7%95%D7%99%D7%A7%D7%99%D7%A4%D7%93%D7%99%D7%94:%D7%93%D7%9C%D7%A4%D7%A7_%D7%99%D7%99%D7%A2%D7%95%D7%A5" title="ויקיפדיה:דלפק ייעוץ – Hebrew" lang="he" hreflang="he" data-title="ויקיפדיה:דלפק ייעוץ" data-language-autonym="עברית" data-language-local-name="Hebrew" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>עברית</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-ka mw-list-item"><a href="https://ka.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E1%83%95%E1%83%98%E1%83%99%E1%83%98%E1%83%9E%E1%83%94%E1%83%93%E1%83%98%E1%83%90:%E1%83%A4%E1%83%9D%E1%83%A0%E1%83%A3%E1%83%9B%E1%83%98/%E1%83%93%E1%83%90%E1%83%AE%E1%83%9B%E1%83%90%E1%83%A0%E1%83%94%E1%83%91%E1%83%90" title="ვიკიპედია:ფორუმი/დახმარება – Georgian" lang="ka" hreflang="ka" data-title="ვიკიპედია:ფორუმი/დახმარება" data-language-autonym="ქართული" data-language-local-name="Georgian" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>ქართული</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-ku mw-list-item"><a href="https://ku.wikipedia.org/wiki/W%C3%AEk%C3%AEpediya:Pirsiyar" title="Wîkîpediya:Pirsiyar – Kurdish" lang="ku" hreflang="ku" data-title="Wîkîpediya:Pirsiyar" data-language-autonym="Kurdî" data-language-local-name="Kurdish" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>Kurdî</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-lt mw-list-item"><a href="https://lt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vikipedija:Pagalbos_biuras" title="Vikipedija:Pagalbos biuras – Lithuanian" lang="lt" hreflang="lt" data-title="Vikipedija:Pagalbos biuras" data-language-autonym="Lietuvių" data-language-local-name="Lithuanian" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>Lietuvių</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-ml mw-list-item"><a href="https://ml.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E0%B4%B5%E0%B4%BF%E0%B4%95%E0%B5%8D%E0%B4%95%E0%B4%BF%E0%B4%AA%E0%B5%80%E0%B4%A1%E0%B4%BF%E0%B4%AF:%E0%B4%B8%E0%B4%B9%E0%B4%BE%E0%B4%AF%E0%B4%AE%E0%B5%87%E0%B4%B6" title="വിക്കിപീഡിയ:സഹായമേശ – Malayalam" lang="ml" hreflang="ml" data-title="വിക്കിപീഡിയ:സഹായമേശ" data-language-autonym="മലയാളം" data-language-local-name="Malayalam" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>മലയാളം</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-mzn mw-list-item"><a href="https://mzn.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D8%B1%D8%A7%D9%86%D9%85%D8%A7:%D8%B1%D8%A7%D9%87%D9%86%D9%85%D8%A7" title="رانما:راهنما – Mazanderani" lang="mzn" hreflang="mzn" data-title="رانما:راهنما" data-language-autonym="مازِرونی" data-language-local-name="Mazanderani" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>مازِرونی</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-ms mw-list-item"><a href="https://ms.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Meja_bantuan" title="Wikipedia:Meja bantuan – Malay" lang="ms" hreflang="ms" data-title="Wikipedia:Meja bantuan" data-language-autonym="Bahasa Melayu" data-language-local-name="Malay" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>Bahasa Melayu</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-my mw-list-item"><a href="https://my.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E1%80%9D%E1%80%AE%E1%80%80%E1%80%AE%E1%80%95%E1%80%AE%E1%80%B8%E1%80%92%E1%80%AE%E1%80%B8%E1%80%9A%E1%80%AC%E1%80%B8:%E1%80%A1%E1%80%80%E1%80%B0%E1%80%A1%E1%80%8A%E1%80%AE%E1%80%85%E1%80%AC%E1%80%B8%E1%80%95%E1%80%BD%E1%80%B2" title="ဝီကီပီးဒီးယား:အကူအညီစားပွဲ – Burmese" lang="my" hreflang="my" data-title="ဝီကီပီးဒီးယား:အကူအညီစားပွဲ" data-language-autonym="မြန်မာဘာသာ" data-language-local-name="Burmese" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>မြန်မာဘာသာ</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-nl mw-list-item"><a href="https://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Help:Helpdesk" title="Help:Helpdesk – Dutch" lang="nl" hreflang="nl" data-title="Help:Helpdesk" data-language-autonym="Nederlands" data-language-local-name="Dutch" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>Nederlands</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-ne mw-list-item"><a href="https://ne.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E0%A4%B5%E0%A4%BF%E0%A4%95%E0%A4%BF%E0%A4%AA%E0%A4%BF%E0%A4%A1%E0%A4%BF%E0%A4%AF%E0%A4%BE:%E0%A4%B8%E0%A4%B9%E0%A4%BE%E0%A4%AF%E0%A4%A4%E0%A4%BE_%E0%A4%95%E0%A4%95%E0%A5%8D%E0%A4%B7" title="विकिपिडिया:सहायता कक्ष – Nepali" lang="ne" hreflang="ne" data-title="विकिपिडिया:सहायता कक्ष" data-language-autonym="नेपाली" data-language-local-name="Nepali" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>नेपाली</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-ja mw-list-item"><a href="https://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:%E5%88%A9%E7%94%A8%E6%A1%88%E5%86%85" title="Wikipedia:利用案内 – Japanese" lang="ja" hreflang="ja" data-title="Wikipedia:利用案内" data-language-autonym="日本語" data-language-local-name="Japanese" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>日本語</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-uz mw-list-item"><a href="https://uz.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vikipediya:Forum/Yordam" title="Vikipediya:Forum/Yordam – Uzbek" lang="uz" hreflang="uz" data-title="Vikipediya:Forum/Yordam" data-language-autonym="Oʻzbekcha / ўзбекча" data-language-local-name="Uzbek" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>Oʻzbekcha / ўзбекча</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-ps mw-list-item"><a href="https://ps.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%88%D9%8A%DA%A9%D9%8A%D9%BE%DB%90%DA%89%D9%8A%D8%A7:%D9%84%D8%A7%D8%B1%DA%9A%D9%88%D8%AF_%D9%85%DB%90%D8%B2" title="ويکيپېډيا:لارښود مېز – Pashto" lang="ps" hreflang="ps" data-title="ويکيپېډيا:لارښود مېز" data-language-autonym="پښتو" data-language-local-name="Pashto" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>پښتو</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-pt mw-list-item"><a href="https://pt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ajuda:Tire_suas_d%C3%BAvidas" title="Ajuda:Tire suas dúvidas – Portuguese" lang="pt" hreflang="pt" data-title="Ajuda:Tire suas dúvidas" data-language-autonym="Português" data-language-local-name="Portuguese" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>Português</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-ru mw-list-item"><a href="https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%92%D0%B8%D0%BA%D0%B8%D0%BF%D0%B5%D0%B4%D0%B8%D1%8F:%D0%A4%D0%BE%D1%80%D1%83%D0%BC/%D0%92%D0%BE%D0%BF%D1%80%D0%BE%D1%81%D1%8B" title="Википедия:Форум/Вопросы – Russian" lang="ru" hreflang="ru" data-title="Википедия:Форум/Вопросы" data-language-autonym="Русский" data-language-local-name="Russian" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>Русский</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-sa mw-list-item"><a href="https://sa.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E0%A4%B5%E0%A4%BF%E0%A4%95%E0%A4%BF%E0%A4%AA%E0%A5%80%E0%A4%A1%E0%A4%BF%E0%A4%AF%E0%A4%BE:%E0%A4%AA%E0%A5%8D%E0%A4%B0%E0%A4%95%E0%A5%80%E0%A4%B0%E0%A5%8D%E0%A4%A3%E0%A4%B8%E0%A4%AD%E0%A4%BE" title="विकिपीडिया:प्रकीर्णसभा – Sanskrit" lang="sa" hreflang="sa" data-title="विकिपीडिया:प्रकीर्णसभा" data-language-autonym="संस्कृतम्" data-language-local-name="Sanskrit" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>संस्कृतम्</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-sco mw-list-item"><a href="https://sco.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Help_desk" title="Wikipedia:Help desk – Scots" lang="sco" hreflang="sco" data-title="Wikipedia:Help desk" data-language-autonym="Scots" data-language-local-name="Scots" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>Scots</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-si mw-list-item"><a href="https://si.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E0%B7%80%E0%B7%92%E0%B6%9A%E0%B7%92%E0%B6%B4%E0%B7%93%E0%B6%A9%E0%B7%92%E0%B6%BA%E0%B7%8F:%E0%B6%8B%E0%B6%AF%E0%B7%80%E0%B7%94_%E0%B6%9A%E0%B7%80%E0%B7%94%E0%B7%85%E0%B7%94%E0%B7%80" title="විකිපීඩියා:උදවු කවුළුව – Sinhala" lang="si" hreflang="si" data-title="විකිපීඩියා:උදවු කවුළුව" data-language-autonym="සිංහල" data-language-local-name="Sinhala" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>සිංහල</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-sd mw-list-item"><a href="https://sd.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%88%DA%AA%D9%8A%D9%BE%D9%8A%DA%8A%D9%8A%D8%A7:%D9%85%D8%AF%D8%AF_%D9%85%D9%8A%D8%B2" title="وڪيپيڊيا:مدد ميز – Sindhi" lang="sd" hreflang="sd" data-title="وڪيپيڊيا:مدد ميز" data-language-autonym="سنڌي" data-language-local-name="Sindhi" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>سنڌي</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-sk mw-list-item"><a href="https://sk.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikip%C3%A9dia:Potrebujem_pomoc" title="Wikipédia:Potrebujem pomoc – Slovak" lang="sk" hreflang="sk" data-title="Wikipédia:Potrebujem pomoc" data-language-autonym="Slovenčina" data-language-local-name="Slovak" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>Slovenčina</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-sl mw-list-item"><a href="https://sl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedija:Forum_za_pomo%C4%8D" title="Wikipedija:Forum za pomoč – Slovenian" lang="sl" hreflang="sl" data-title="Wikipedija:Forum za pomoč" data-language-autonym="Slovenščina" data-language-local-name="Slovenian" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>Slovenščina</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-ckb mw-list-item"><a href="https://ckb.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%88%DB%8C%DA%A9%DB%8C%D9%BE%DB%8C%D8%AF%DB%8C%D8%A7:%D9%BE%D8%B1%D8%B3%DA%AF%D8%A7" title="ویکیپیدیا:پرسگا – Central Kurdish" lang="ckb" hreflang="ckb" data-title="ویکیپیدیا:پرسگا" data-language-autonym="کوردی" data-language-local-name="Central Kurdish" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>کوردی</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-fi mw-list-item"><a href="https://fi.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Kahvihuone_(Wikipedian_k%C3%A4yt%C3%B6n_neuvonta)" title="Wikipedia:Kahvihuone (Wikipedian käytön neuvonta) – Finnish" lang="fi" hreflang="fi" data-title="Wikipedia:Kahvihuone (Wikipedian käytön neuvonta)" data-language-autonym="Suomi" data-language-local-name="Finnish" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>Suomi</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-sv mw-list-item"><a href="https://sv.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipediafr%C3%A5gor" title="Wikipedia:Wikipediafrågor – Swedish" lang="sv" hreflang="sv" data-title="Wikipedia:Wikipediafrågor" data-language-autonym="Svenska" data-language-local-name="Swedish" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>Svenska</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-ta mw-list-item"><a href="https://ta.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E0%AE%B5%E0%AE%BF%E0%AE%95%E0%AF%8D%E0%AE%95%E0%AE%BF%E0%AE%AA%E0%AF%8D%E0%AE%AA%E0%AF%80%E0%AE%9F%E0%AE%BF%E0%AE%AF%E0%AE%BE:%E0%AE%92%E0%AE%A4%E0%AF%8D%E0%AE%A4%E0%AE%BE%E0%AE%9A%E0%AF%88%E0%AE%AA%E0%AF%8D_%E0%AE%AA%E0%AE%95%E0%AF%8D%E0%AE%95%E0%AE%AE%E0%AF%8D" title="விக்கிப்பீடியா:ஒத்தாசைப் பக்கம் – Tamil" lang="ta" hreflang="ta" data-title="விக்கிப்பீடியா:ஒத்தாசைப் பக்கம்" data-language-autonym="தமிழ்" data-language-local-name="Tamil" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>தமிழ்</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-tt mw-list-item"><a href="https://tt.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%92%D0%B8%D0%BA%D0%B8%D0%BF%D0%B5%D0%B4%D0%B8%D1%8F:%D0%A1%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%B0%D1%83%D0%BB%D0%B0%D1%80" title="Википедия:Сораулар – Tatar" lang="tt" hreflang="tt" data-title="Википедия:Сораулар" data-language-autonym="Татарча / tatarça" data-language-local-name="Tatar" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>Татарча / tatarça</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-te mw-list-item"><a href="https://te.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E0%B0%B5%E0%B0%BF%E0%B0%95%E0%B1%80%E0%B0%AA%E0%B1%80%E0%B0%A1%E0%B0%BF%E0%B0%AF%E0%B0%BE:%E0%B0%B0%E0%B0%9A%E0%B1%8D%E0%B0%9A%E0%B0%AC%E0%B0%82%E0%B0%A1_(%E0%B0%B8%E0%B0%B9%E0%B0%BE%E0%B0%AF%E0%B0%AE%E0%B1%81)" title="వికీపీడియా:రచ్చబండ (సహాయము) – Telugu" lang="te" hreflang="te" data-title="వికీపీడియా:రచ్చబండ (సహాయము)" data-language-autonym="తెలుగు" data-language-local-name="Telugu" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>తెలుగు</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-th mw-list-item"><a href="https://th.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E0%B8%A7%E0%B8%B4%E0%B8%81%E0%B8%B4%E0%B8%9E%E0%B8%B5%E0%B9%80%E0%B8%94%E0%B8%B5%E0%B8%A2:%E0%B9%81%E0%B8%9C%E0%B8%99%E0%B8%81%E0%B8%8A%E0%B9%88%E0%B8%A7%E0%B8%A2%E0%B9%80%E0%B8%AB%E0%B8%A5%E0%B8%B7%E0%B8%AD" title="วิกิพีเดีย:แผนกช่วยเหลือ – Thai" lang="th" hreflang="th" data-title="วิกิพีเดีย:แผนกช่วยเหลือ" data-language-autonym="ไทย" data-language-local-name="Thai" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>ไทย</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-tg mw-list-item"><a href="https://tg.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%92%D0%B8%D0%BA%D0%B8%D0%BF%D0%B5%D0%B4%D0%B8%D0%B0:%D2%9A%D0%B0%D2%B3%D0%B2%D0%B0%D1%85%D0%BE%D0%BD%D0%B0/%D0%9F%D1%83%D1%80%D1%81%D0%B8%D1%88%D2%B3%D0%BE" title="Википедиа:Қаҳвахона/Пурсишҳо – Tajik" lang="tg" hreflang="tg" data-title="Википедиа:Қаҳвахона/Пурсишҳо" data-language-autonym="Тоҷикӣ" data-language-local-name="Tajik" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>Тоҷикӣ</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-tr mw-list-item"><a href="https://tr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vikipedi:Dan%C4%B1%C5%9Fma_masas%C4%B1" title="Vikipedi:Danışma masası – Turkish" lang="tr" hreflang="tr" data-title="Vikipedi:Danışma masası" data-language-autonym="Türkçe" data-language-local-name="Turkish" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>Türkçe</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-tw mw-list-item"><a href="https://tw.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nhw%C9%9Bso%C9%94:Nkratafa_soronko" title="Nhwɛsoɔ:Nkratafa soronko – Twi" lang="tw" hreflang="tw" data-title="Nhwɛsoɔ:Nkratafa soronko" data-language-autonym="Twi" data-language-local-name="Twi" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>Twi</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-uk mw-list-item"><a href="https://uk.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%92%D1%96%D0%BA%D1%96%D0%BF%D0%B5%D0%B4%D1%96%D1%8F:%D0%9A%D0%BD%D0%B0%D0%B9%D0%BF%D0%B0_(%D0%B4%D0%BE%D0%BF%D0%BE%D0%BC%D0%BE%D0%B3%D0%B0)" title="Вікіпедія:Кнайпа (допомога) – Ukrainian" lang="uk" hreflang="uk" data-title="Вікіпедія:Кнайпа (допомога)" data-language-autonym="Українська" data-language-local-name="Ukrainian" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>Українська</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-ur mw-list-item"><a href="https://ur.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%88%DB%8C%DA%A9%DB%8C%D9%BE%DB%8C%DA%88%DB%8C%D8%A7:%D9%85%D8%B9%D8%A7%D9%88%D9%86%D8%AA_%D9%85%DB%8C%D8%B2" title="ویکیپیڈیا:معاونت میز – Urdu" lang="ur" hreflang="ur" data-title="ویکیپیڈیا:معاونت میز" data-language-autonym="اردو" data-language-local-name="Urdu" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>اردو</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-vec mw-list-item"><a href="https://vec.wikipedia.org/wiki/Juto:Sporte%C5%82o_informasion" title="Juto:Sporteło informasion – Venetian" lang="vec" hreflang="vec" data-title="Juto:Sporteło informasion" data-language-autonym="Vèneto" data-language-local-name="Venetian" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>Vèneto</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-vi mw-list-item"><a href="https://vi.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Gi%C3%BAp_s%E1%BB%AD_d%E1%BB%A5ng_Wikipedia" title="Wikipedia:Giúp sử dụng Wikipedia – Vietnamese" lang="vi" hreflang="vi" data-title="Wikipedia:Giúp sử dụng 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property="mw:PageProp/toc" /></div> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading1"><h1 id="March_14" data-mw-thread-id="h-March_14-20250314065200"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-March_14-20250314065200"></span>March 14<span data-mw-comment-end="h-March_14-20250314065200"></span></h1></div> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-TNM101-20250314065200","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Good_article_category?-March_14-20250314065200","replies":["c-TNM101-20250314065200-Good_article_category?"],"text":"Good article category?","linkableTitle":"Good article category?"}--><h2 id="Good_article_category?" data-mw-thread-id="h-Good_article_category?-March_14-20250314065200"><span id="Good_article_category.3F"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Good_article_category?-March_14-20250314065200"></span>Good article category?<span 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data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-TNM101-20250314065200-Good_article_category?"></span>Is there a <a href="/w/index.php?title=Category:Good_articles_by_age&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Category:Good articles by age (page does not exist)">Category:Good articles by age</a> or something like that? If there isn't, it would be helpful if good articles were sorted by their age in a new category so that old ones that have issues can easily be found and nominated for <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:GAR" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:GAR">WP:GAR</a> <b><a href="/wiki/User:TNM101" title="User:TNM101"><span style="color:red;">TNM</span><span style="color:black;">101</span></a></b> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:TNM101" title="User talk:TNM101"><span style="color:blue;">chat</span></a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Help_desk#c-TNM101-20250314065200-Good_article_category?" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">06:52, 14 March 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-TNM101-20250314065200-Good_article_category?"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250314065200","author":"TNM101","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-TNM101-20250314065200-Good_article_category?","replies":["c-TSventon-20250314174900-TNM101-20250314065200","c-Reconrabbit-20250314190600-TNM101-20250314065200"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-TNM101-20250314065200-Good_article_category?"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-TSventon-20250314174900-TNM101-20250314065200"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:TNM101" title="User:TNM101">TNM101</a>:</span> you could try asking at <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Good_article_nominations" title="Wikipedia talk:Good article nominations">Wikipedia talk:Good article nominations</a> as people ther will know more about the GA process than most helpers here. <a href="/wiki/User:TSventon" title="User:TSventon">TSventon</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:TSventon" title="User talk:TSventon">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Help_desk#c-TSventon-20250314174900-TNM101-20250314065200" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:49, 14 March 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-TSventon-20250314174900-TNM101-20250314065200"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250314174900","author":"TSventon","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-TSventon-20250314174900-TNM101-20250314065200","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-TSventon-20250314174900-TNM101-20250314065200"></span></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Reconrabbit-20250314190600-TNM101-20250314065200"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:TNM101" title="User:TNM101">TNM101</a> Rather than looking up good articles by age (I imagine there is a way to do this) you can use the <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://bambots.brucemyers.com/cwb/bycat/Good_articles.html#Conflict%20of%20interest">cleanup listing for good articles</a>, which will allow you to find all the good articles with various maintenance tags and specific issues. <a href="/wiki/User:Reconrabbit" title="User:Reconrabbit"><span style="color:#6BAD2D">Recon</span></a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Reconrabbit" title="User talk:Reconrabbit"><span class="skin-invert" style="color:#2F3833">rabbit</span></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Help_desk#c-Reconrabbit-20250314190600-TNM101-20250314065200" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:06, 14 March 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Reconrabbit-20250314190600-TNM101-20250314065200"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250314190600","author":"Reconrabbit","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Reconrabbit-20250314190600-TNM101-20250314065200","replies":["c-TNM101-20250315064400-Reconrabbit-20250314190600"],"displayName":"Recon"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Reconrabbit-20250314190600-TNM101-20250314065200"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-TNM101-20250315064400-Reconrabbit-20250314190600"></span>Thank you for the replies! <b><a href="/wiki/User:TNM101" title="User:TNM101"><span style="color:red;">TNM</span><span style="color:black;">101</span></a></b> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:TNM101" title="User talk:TNM101"><span style="color:blue;">chat</span></a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Help_desk#c-TNM101-20250315064400-Reconrabbit-20250314190600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">06:44, 15 March 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-TNM101-20250315064400-Reconrabbit-20250314190600"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250315064400","author":"TNM101","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-TNM101-20250315064400-Reconrabbit-20250314190600","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-TNM101-20250315064400-Reconrabbit-20250314190600"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Lova_Falk-20250314144900","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Correct_way_to_do_this-March_14-20250314144900","replies":["c-Lova_Falk-20250314144900-Correct_way_to_do_this"],"text":"Correct way to do this","linkableTitle":"Correct way to do this"}--><h2 id="Correct_way_to_do_this" data-mw-thread-id="h-Correct_way_to_do_this-March_14-20250314144900"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Correct_way_to_do_this-March_14-20250314144900"></span>Correct way to do this<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Correct_way_to_do_this-March_14-20250314144900"></span></h2><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Lova_Falk-20250314144900","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Correct_way_to_do_this-March_14-20250314144900","replies":["c-Lova_Falk-20250314144900-Correct_way_to_do_this"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-Michael_D._Turnbull-20250314183500-Lova_Falk-20250314181300","timestamp":"20250314183500"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__4__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__2__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Lova_Falk-20250314144900","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Correct_way_to_do_this-March_14-20250314144900","replies":["c-Lova_Falk-20250314144900-Correct_way_to_do_this"],"text":"Correct way to do this","linkableTitle":"Correct way to do this"}--></div></div></div> <p><a href="/wiki/Sudzha" title="Sudzha"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Lova_Falk-20250314144900-Correct_way_to_do_this"></span>Sudzha</a>. On 14 January 2024, an edit is made "After the beginning of the full-scale <a href="/wiki/Russian_invasion_of_Ukraine" title="Russian invasion of Ukraine">Russian invasion of Ukraine</a> in 2022, Sudha became..." (<a class="external free" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Sudzha&diff=next&oldid=1195628086">https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Sudzha&diff=next&oldid=1195628086</a>). The source provided supports the second part of the sentence but says nothing about the term "full-scale invasion." As far as I can tell, the phrase "full-scale" has remained in the article through about two hundred edits. Today, another editor added a "dubious" tag around "full-scale" and shared their opinion, but they did not start a discussion on the talk page. </p><p>I disagree with the editor’s opinion. I assume the correct approach would be to open a discussion on the talk page. However, since "full-scale invasion" is mentioned in many other articles about the Russian invasion of Ukraine, I suspect that this issue has already been discussed and that a consensus has been reached. The article <a href="/wiki/Russian_invasion_of_Ukraine" title="Russian invasion of Ukraine">Russian invasion of Ukraine</a> mentions "full-scale invasion". Can I therefore assume that the term "full-scale invasion" is acceptable and remove the "dubious" tag? (I have also looked at the archive of the talk page of Russian invasion of Ukraine, and "full scale" is <i>mentioned</i> in a lot of archives - it is possible that it has been <i>discussed</i> but it is such a job to go look for it) </p><p>Another question: In other cases where an editor adds a "dubious" tag to a word, expresses an unsourced opinion that "this is all wrong", but does not start a discussion — and if no previous editors have raised concerns about that term — is it the editor’s responsibility to open a discussion and can I simply remove the tag, or should I keep the tag and open the discussion? TIA!! <a href="/wiki/User:Lova_Falk" title="User:Lova Falk">Lova Falk</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Lova_Falk" title="User talk:Lova Falk">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Help_desk#c-Lova_Falk-20250314144900-Correct_way_to_do_this" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:49, 14 March 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Lova_Falk-20250314144900-Correct_way_to_do_this"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250314144900","author":"Lova Falk","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Lova_Falk-20250314144900-Correct_way_to_do_this","replies":["c-Michael_D._Turnbull-20250314180600-Lova_Falk-20250314144900"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Lova_Falk-20250314144900-Correct_way_to_do_this"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Michael_D._Turnbull-20250314180600-Lova_Falk-20250314144900"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:Lova_Falk" title="User:Lova Falk">Lova Falk</a> <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:DRIVEBY" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:DRIVEBY">WP:DRIVEBY</a> suggests that adding such tags without discussion is a bad idea (although not prohibited by policy). As it happens, while typing this I have been listening to the BBC's 6 p.m. news on the radio and the phrase "full-scale invasion" came up! I've heard it so many times that I certainly don't think it is dubious. <a href="/wiki/User:Michael_D._Turnbull" title="User:Michael D. Turnbull">Mike Turnbull</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Michael_D._Turnbull" title="User talk:Michael D. Turnbull">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Help_desk#c-Michael_D._Turnbull-20250314180600-Lova_Falk-20250314144900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:06, 14 March 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Michael_D._Turnbull-20250314180600-Lova_Falk-20250314144900"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250314180600","author":"Michael D. Turnbull","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Michael_D._Turnbull-20250314180600-Lova_Falk-20250314144900","replies":["c-Lova_Falk-20250314181300-Michael_D._Turnbull-20250314180600"],"displayName":"Mike Turnbull"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Michael_D._Turnbull-20250314180600-Lova_Falk-20250314144900"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Lova_Falk-20250314181300-Michael_D._Turnbull-20250314180600"></span>Thank you <a href="/wiki/User:Michael_D._Turnbull" title="User:Michael D. Turnbull">Mike Turnbull</a>! Could you please extend your comment to an advice on how to deal with them. For instance, would it be fine just to remove them? <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Etiquette" title="Wikipedia:Etiquette">WP:Etiquette</a> does not require me to first try to engage the editor in a Talk conversation? <a href="/wiki/User:Lova_Falk" title="User:Lova Falk">Lova Falk</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Lova_Falk" title="User talk:Lova Falk">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Help_desk#c-Lova_Falk-20250314181300-Michael_D._Turnbull-20250314180600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:13, 14 March 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Lova_Falk-20250314181300-Michael_D._Turnbull-20250314180600"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250314181300","author":"Lova Falk","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Lova_Falk-20250314181300-Michael_D._Turnbull-20250314180600","replies":["c-Michael_D._Turnbull-20250314183500-Lova_Falk-20250314181300"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Lova_Falk-20250314181300-Michael_D._Turnbull-20250314180600"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Michael_D._Turnbull-20250314183500-Lova_Falk-20250314181300"></span>The other editor may have been concerned that the phrase in question is imprecise: the "became the last remaining point" presumably happened exactly on the day of the other pipeline's sabotage, not just "After the beginning of the full-scale invasion". You should probably either clarify that with an exact date or <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:PING" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:PING">WP:PING</a> the other editor to the talk page to discuss this. <a href="/wiki/User:Michael_D._Turnbull" title="User:Michael D. Turnbull">Mike Turnbull</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Michael_D._Turnbull" title="User talk:Michael D. Turnbull">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Help_desk#c-Michael_D._Turnbull-20250314183500-Lova_Falk-20250314181300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:35, 14 March 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Michael_D._Turnbull-20250314183500-Lova_Falk-20250314181300"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250314183500","author":"Michael D. Turnbull","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Michael_D._Turnbull-20250314183500-Lova_Falk-20250314181300","replies":[],"displayName":"Mike Turnbull"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Michael_D._Turnbull-20250314183500-Lova_Falk-20250314181300"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Sock-the-guy-20250314190200","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Can_I_use_this_picture?-March_14-20250314190200","replies":["c-Sock-the-guy-20250314190200-Can_I_use_this_picture?"],"text":"Can I use this picture?","linkableTitle":"Can I use this picture?"}--><h2 id="Can_I_use_this_picture?" data-mw-thread-id="h-Can_I_use_this_picture?-March_14-20250314190200"><span id="Can_I_use_this_picture.3F"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Can_I_use_this_picture?-March_14-20250314190200"></span>Can I use this picture?<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Can_I_use_this_picture?-March_14-20250314190200"></span></h2><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Sock-the-guy-20250314190200","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Can_I_use_this_picture?-March_14-20250314190200","replies":["c-Sock-the-guy-20250314190200-Can_I_use_this_picture?"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-Sock-the-guy-20250314191400-Reconrabbit-20250314191200","timestamp":"20250314191400"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__3__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__2__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Sock-the-guy-20250314190200","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Can_I_use_this_picture?-March_14-20250314190200","replies":["c-Sock-the-guy-20250314190200-Can_I_use_this_picture?"],"text":"Can I use this picture?","linkableTitle":"Can I use this picture?"}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Sock-the-guy-20250314190200-Can_I_use_this_picture?"></span>Hi! I was trying to expand the stub at <a href="/wiki/Noarlunga_railway_station" title="Noarlunga railway station">Noarlunga_railway_station</a> and found an image here: <a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="https://www.libraries.sa.gov.au/client/en_AU/walkerville/search/detailnonmodal/ent:$002f$002fSD_ASSET$002f0$002fSD_ASSET:1432327/ada?qu=Landscapes+%28views%29&d=ent%3A%2F%2FSD_ASSET%2F0%2FSD_ASSET%3A1432327%7EASSET%7E162&ic=true&ps=300&h=8">https://www.libraries.sa.gov.au/client/en_AU/walkerville/search/detailnonmodal/ent:$002f$002fSD_ASSET$002f0$002fSD_ASSET:1432327/ada?qu=Landscapes+%28views%29&d=ent%3A%2F%2FSD_ASSET%2F0%2FSD_ASSET%3A1432327%7EASSET%7E162&ic=true&ps=300&h=8</a> </p><p>Is that something I can use in the article? <a href="/wiki/User:Sock-the-guy" title="User:Sock-the-guy">Sock-the-guy</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Sock-the-guy" title="User talk:Sock-the-guy">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Help_desk#c-Sock-the-guy-20250314190200-Can_I_use_this_picture?" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:02, 14 March 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Sock-the-guy-20250314190200-Can_I_use_this_picture?"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250314190200","author":"Sock-the-guy","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Sock-the-guy-20250314190200-Can_I_use_this_picture?","replies":["c-Reconrabbit-20250314191200-Sock-the-guy-20250314190200"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Sock-the-guy-20250314190200-Can_I_use_this_picture?"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Reconrabbit-20250314191200-Sock-the-guy-20250314190200"></span>The photograph looks like it was taken in 1968 and its copyright is not indicated anywhere (the source link is broken) unfortunately it is unlikely to be in the public domain per <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Copyright_rules_by_territory/Australia" class="extiw" title="commons:Copyright rules by territory/Australia">Australian copyright rules</a>. You could still add a link to it in "External links" if desirable. <a href="/wiki/User:Reconrabbit" title="User:Reconrabbit"><span style="color:#6BAD2D">Recon</span></a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Reconrabbit" title="User talk:Reconrabbit"><span class="skin-invert" style="color:#2F3833">rabbit</span></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Help_desk#c-Reconrabbit-20250314191200-Sock-the-guy-20250314190200" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:12, 14 March 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Reconrabbit-20250314191200-Sock-the-guy-20250314190200"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250314191200","author":"Reconrabbit","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Reconrabbit-20250314191200-Sock-the-guy-20250314190200","replies":["c-Sock-the-guy-20250314191400-Reconrabbit-20250314191200"],"displayName":"Recon"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Reconrabbit-20250314191200-Sock-the-guy-20250314190200"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Sock-the-guy-20250314191400-Reconrabbit-20250314191200"></span>Thanks! <a href="/wiki/User:Sock-the-guy" title="User:Sock-the-guy">Sock-the-guy</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Sock-the-guy" title="User talk:Sock-the-guy">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Help_desk#c-Sock-the-guy-20250314191400-Reconrabbit-20250314191200" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:14, 14 March 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Sock-the-guy-20250314191400-Reconrabbit-20250314191200"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250314191400","author":"Sock-the-guy","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Sock-the-guy-20250314191400-Reconrabbit-20250314191200","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Sock-the-guy-20250314191400-Reconrabbit-20250314191200"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-MutuallyAssuredDeduction-20250314202100","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Question-March_14-20250314202100","replies":["c-MutuallyAssuredDeduction-20250314202100-Question"],"text":"Question","linkableTitle":"Question"}--><h2 id="Question" data-mw-thread-id="h-Question-March_14-20250314202100"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Question-March_14-20250314202100"></span>Question<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Question-March_14-20250314202100"></span></h2><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-MutuallyAssuredDeduction-20250314202100","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Question-March_14-20250314202100","replies":["c-MutuallyAssuredDeduction-20250314202100-Question"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-PrimeHunter-20250315111200-Hoary-20250315082700","timestamp":"20250315111200"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__4__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__4__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-MutuallyAssuredDeduction-20250314202100","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Question-March_14-20250314202100","replies":["c-MutuallyAssuredDeduction-20250314202100-Question"],"text":"Question","linkableTitle":"Question"}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-MutuallyAssuredDeduction-20250314202100-Question"></span>Hi, I'd like to link to a specific subsection of an article. How does that generally look like? </p><p>The link is supposed to lead to "The Ideological Turing Test" within the Bryan Caplan article. I imagine this might be where Wikipedia redirects come in. Thank you. <a href="/wiki/User:MutuallyAssuredDeduction" title="User:MutuallyAssuredDeduction">MutuallyAssuredDeduction</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:MutuallyAssuredDeduction" title="User talk:MutuallyAssuredDeduction">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Help_desk#c-MutuallyAssuredDeduction-20250314202100-Question" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:21, 14 March 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-MutuallyAssuredDeduction-20250314202100-Question"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250314202100","author":"MutuallyAssuredDeduction","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-MutuallyAssuredDeduction-20250314202100-Question","replies":["c-TSventon-20250314212200-MutuallyAssuredDeduction-20250314202100","c-Hoary-20250315082700-MutuallyAssuredDeduction-20250314202100"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-MutuallyAssuredDeduction-20250314202100-Question"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-TSventon-20250314212200-MutuallyAssuredDeduction-20250314202100"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:MutuallyAssuredDeduction" title="User:MutuallyAssuredDeduction">MutuallyAssuredDeduction</a>:</span> that looks like [[Bryan Caplan#"The Ideological Turing Test"]] or [[Bryan Caplan#"The Ideological Turing Test"|The Ideological Turing Test]]. <a href="/wiki/User:TSventon" title="User:TSventon">TSventon</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:TSventon" title="User talk:TSventon">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Help_desk#c-TSventon-20250314212200-MutuallyAssuredDeduction-20250314202100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:22, 14 March 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-TSventon-20250314212200-MutuallyAssuredDeduction-20250314202100"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250314212200","author":"TSventon","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-TSventon-20250314212200-MutuallyAssuredDeduction-20250314202100","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-TSventon-20250314212200-MutuallyAssuredDeduction-20250314202100"></span></dd></dl> <dl><dd><a href="/wiki/User:TSventon" title="User:TSventon"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Hoary-20250315082700-MutuallyAssuredDeduction-20250314202100"></span>TSventon</a>, if somebody renames the section "The Ideological Turing Test" (to, for example, "Ideological Turing Test"), such links will no longer work. Better, I think, to use <a href="/wiki/Template:Anchor" title="Template:Anchor">Template:Anchor</a> (about which, see its somewhat wordy documentation). -- <a href="/wiki/User:Hoary" title="User:Hoary">Hoary</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Hoary" title="User talk:Hoary">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Help_desk#c-Hoary-20250315082700-MutuallyAssuredDeduction-20250314202100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">08:27, 15 March 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Hoary-20250315082700-MutuallyAssuredDeduction-20250314202100"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250315082700","author":"Hoary","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Hoary-20250315082700-MutuallyAssuredDeduction-20250314202100","replies":["c-PrimeHunter-20250315111200-Hoary-20250315082700"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Hoary-20250315082700-MutuallyAssuredDeduction-20250314202100"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-PrimeHunter-20250315111200-Hoary-20250315082700"></span>See <a href="/wiki/Help:Redirect" title="Help:Redirect">Help:Redirect</a> for how to make a redirect. It can both redirect to a section heading and an anchor. <a href="/wiki/User:PrimeHunter" title="User:PrimeHunter">PrimeHunter</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:PrimeHunter" title="User talk:PrimeHunter">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Help_desk#c-PrimeHunter-20250315111200-Hoary-20250315082700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:12, 15 March 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-PrimeHunter-20250315111200-Hoary-20250315082700"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250315111200","author":"PrimeHunter","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-PrimeHunter-20250315111200-Hoary-20250315082700","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-PrimeHunter-20250315111200-Hoary-20250315082700"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading1"><h1 id="March_15" data-mw-thread-id="h-March_15-20250315100900"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-March_15-20250315100900"></span>March 15<span data-mw-comment-end="h-March_15-20250315100900"></span></h1></div> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Star_Manatee-20250315100900","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Sentence_on_\"Matthias_Koehl\"_Neo-Nazi_leader_article_-_sourced_to_a_pro-Koehl_Na-March_15-20250315100900","replies":["c-Star_Manatee-20250315100900-Sentence_on_\"Matthias_Koehl\"_Neo-Nazi_leader_article_-_sourced_to_a_pro-Koehl_Na"],"text":"Sentence on \"Matthias Koehl\" Neo-Nazi leader article - sourced to a pro-Koehl Nazi website?","linkableTitle":"Sentence on \"Matthias Koehl\" Neo-Nazi leader article - sourced to a pro-Koehl Nazi website?"}--><h2 id="Sentence_on_"Matthias_Koehl"_Neo-Nazi_leader_article_-_sourced_to_a_pro-Koehl_Nazi_website?" data-mw-thread-id="h-Sentence_on_"Matthias_Koehl"_Neo-Nazi_leader_article_-_sourced_to_a_pro-Koehl_Na-March_15-20250315100900"><span id="Sentence_on_.22Matthias_Koehl.22_Neo-Nazi_leader_article_-_sourced_to_a_pro-Koehl_Nazi_website.3F"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Sentence_on_"Matthias_Koehl"_Neo-Nazi_leader_article_-_sourced_to_a_pro-Koehl_Na-March_15-20250315100900"></span>Sentence on "Matthias Koehl" Neo-Nazi leader article - sourced to a pro-Koehl Nazi website?<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Sentence_on_"Matthias_Koehl"_Neo-Nazi_leader_article_-_sourced_to_a_pro-Koehl_Na-March_15-20250315100900"></span></h2><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Star_Manatee-20250315100900","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Sentence_on_\"Matthias_Koehl\"_Neo-Nazi_leader_article_-_sourced_to_a_pro-Koehl_Na-March_15-20250315100900","replies":["c-Star_Manatee-20250315100900-Sentence_on_\"Matthias_Koehl\"_Neo-Nazi_leader_article_-_sourced_to_a_pro-Koehl_Na"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-Star_Manatee-20250315133400-Scope_creep-20250315132700","timestamp":"20250315133400"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__7__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__2__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Star_Manatee-20250315100900","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Sentence_on_\"Matthias_Koehl\"_Neo-Nazi_leader_article_-_sourced_to_a_pro-Koehl_Na-March_15-20250315100900","replies":["c-Star_Manatee-20250315100900-Sentence_on_\"Matthias_Koehl\"_Neo-Nazi_leader_article_-_sourced_to_a_pro-Koehl_Na"],"text":"Sentence on \"Matthias Koehl\" Neo-Nazi leader article - sourced to a pro-Koehl Nazi website?","linkableTitle":"Sentence on \"Matthias Koehl\" Neo-Nazi leader article - sourced to a pro-Koehl Nazi website?"}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Star_Manatee-20250315100900-Sentence_on_"Matthias_Koehl"_Neo-Nazi_leader_article_-_sourced_to_a_pro-Koehl_Na"></span>Hi. Please direct me somewhere else if there’s a better place to discuss this - I wasn’t able to find anywhere. I’ve recently been working on expanding our page on <a href="/wiki/Matthias_Koehl" title="Matthias Koehl">Matthias Koehl</a>, a notable Neo-Nazi leader who succeeded George Lincoln Rockwell as head of the American Nazi Party. Of course, I’m aware an obscure Nazi subject like this might draw attention from actual nationalists, and, while I doubt the editor who added this was one, it is at least true that a statement in the article is sourced to "National Vanguard". The statement is legitimately useful (albeit not the <i>most</i> important to Koehl’s life, and not mentioned in any other sources) and the sentence of it in the article doesn’t appear to be Neo-Nazi propaganda or anything, but National Vanguard is a Neo-Nazi website that publishes articles praising Koehl and his racialist & fascist associates. If the statement is helpful, should the sentence be kept? Or is National Vanguard assumed to be instantly biased on issues relating to fascism, being a fascist website? Is National Vanguard even a news source or is it self-published? <a href="/wiki/User:Star_Manatee" title="User:Star Manatee">Star Manatee</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Star_Manatee" title="User talk:Star Manatee">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Help_desk#c-Star_Manatee-20250315100900-Sentence_on_"Matthias_Koehl"_Neo-Nazi_leader_article_-_sourced_to_a_pro-Koehl_Na" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:09, 15 March 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Star_Manatee-20250315100900-Sentence_on_"Matthias_Koehl"_Neo-Nazi_leader_article_-_sourced_to_a_pro-Koehl_Na"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250315100900","author":"Star Manatee","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Star_Manatee-20250315100900-Sentence_on_\"Matthias_Koehl\"_Neo-Nazi_leader_article_-_sourced_to_a_pro-Koehl_Na","replies":["c-Scope_creep-20250315102700-Star_Manatee-20250315100900"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Star_Manatee-20250315100900-Sentence_on_"Matthias_Koehl"_Neo-Nazi_leader_article_-_sourced_to_a_pro-Koehl_Na"></span> </p> <dl><dd><dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Scope_creep-20250315102700-Star_Manatee-20250315100900"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:Star_Manatee" title="User:Star Manatee">Star Manatee</a>:</span> What sentence is it exactly and I will check it. <b><span style="text-shadow:7px 7px 8px black; font-family:Papyrus"><a href="/wiki/User:Scope_creep" title="User:Scope creep"><span style="color:#3399ff">scope_creep</span></a><sup><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Scope_creep#top" title="User talk:Scope creep">Talk</a></sup></span></b> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Help_desk#c-Scope_creep-20250315102700-Star_Manatee-20250315100900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:27, 15 March 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Scope_creep-20250315102700-Star_Manatee-20250315100900"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250315102700","author":"Scope creep","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Scope_creep-20250315102700-Star_Manatee-20250315100900","replies":["c-Star_Manatee-20250315102800-Scope_creep-20250315102700","c-Scope_creep-20250315130800-Scope_creep-20250315102700"],"displayName":"scope_creep"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Scope_creep-20250315102700-Star_Manatee-20250315100900"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Star_Manatee-20250315102800-Scope_creep-20250315102700"></span>Second paragraph in the "Politics" section, on Ezra Pound <a href="/wiki/User:Star_Manatee" title="User:Star Manatee">Star Manatee</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Star_Manatee" title="User talk:Star Manatee">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Help_desk#c-Star_Manatee-20250315102800-Scope_creep-20250315102700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:28, 15 March 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Star_Manatee-20250315102800-Scope_creep-20250315102700"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250315102800","author":"Star Manatee","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Star_Manatee-20250315102800-Scope_creep-20250315102700","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Star_Manatee-20250315102800-Scope_creep-20250315102700"></span></dd> <dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Scope_creep-20250315130800-Scope_creep-20250315102700"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:Star_Manatee" title="User:Star Manatee">Star Manatee</a>:</span> It is an interview on an neo-nazi site, which makes it suspect. I tried to find the editor web page but instead found a whole load of Nazi crap. I also can't confirm it which likely makes it conjecture. I've posted a note up to the <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:RSN" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:RSN">WP:RSN</a> but they are not going to like it. They are a rough crowd. Wait to see what they say. I think it will likely need to be removed. <b><span style="text-shadow:7px 7px 8px black; font-family:Papyrus"><a href="/wiki/User:Scope_creep" title="User:Scope creep"><span style="color:#3399ff">scope_creep</span></a><sup><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Scope_creep#top" title="User talk:Scope creep">Talk</a></sup></span></b> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Help_desk#c-Scope_creep-20250315130800-Scope_creep-20250315102700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:08, 15 March 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Scope_creep-20250315130800-Scope_creep-20250315102700"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250315130800","author":"Scope creep","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Scope_creep-20250315130800-Scope_creep-20250315102700","replies":["c-Star_Manatee-20250315131500-Scope_creep-20250315130800"],"displayName":"scope_creep"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Scope_creep-20250315130800-Scope_creep-20250315102700"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Star_Manatee-20250315131500-Scope_creep-20250315130800"></span>Makes sense. The sentence in of itself is not notable at large to the biography of Koehl as more commonly focused upon parts of his life, like his mass layoffs of famous party members, his allegations of homosexuality and the (widely scholarly-supported) conspiracy theory that he organised the assassination of Rockwell - while it might be notable that he met a famous wartime fascist, the fact that it’s not been mentioned in any book on him I’ve read so far says a lot. <a href="/wiki/User:Star_Manatee" title="User:Star Manatee">Star Manatee</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Star_Manatee" title="User talk:Star Manatee">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Help_desk#c-Star_Manatee-20250315131500-Scope_creep-20250315130800" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:15, 15 March 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Star_Manatee-20250315131500-Scope_creep-20250315130800"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250315131500","author":"Star Manatee","type":"comment","level":5,"id":"c-Star_Manatee-20250315131500-Scope_creep-20250315130800","replies":["c-Scope_creep-20250315132700-Star_Manatee-20250315131500"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Star_Manatee-20250315131500-Scope_creep-20250315130800"></span> <dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Scope_creep-20250315132700-Star_Manatee-20250315131500"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:Star_Manatee" title="User:Star Manatee">Star Manatee</a>:</span> That National Vanguard is not reliable. I've removed that section from the para. If you see a National Vanguard reference anywhere on Wikipedia, remove the block or the para itself or the sentence. Don't leave it in. <b><span style="text-shadow:7px 7px 8px black; font-family:Papyrus"><a href="/wiki/User:Scope_creep" title="User:Scope creep"><span style="color:#3399ff">scope_creep</span></a><sup><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Scope_creep#top" title="User talk:Scope creep">Talk</a></sup></span></b> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Help_desk#c-Scope_creep-20250315132700-Star_Manatee-20250315131500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:27, 15 March 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Scope_creep-20250315132700-Star_Manatee-20250315131500"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250315132700","author":"Scope creep","type":"comment","level":6,"id":"c-Scope_creep-20250315132700-Star_Manatee-20250315131500","replies":["c-Star_Manatee-20250315133400-Scope_creep-20250315132700"],"displayName":"scope_creep"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Scope_creep-20250315132700-Star_Manatee-20250315131500"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Star_Manatee-20250315133400-Scope_creep-20250315132700"></span>Yep! Thank you for your help <span class="skin-invert-image" typeof="mw:File"><span><img alt="Thumbs up icon" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/87/Symbol_thumbs_up.svg/12px-Symbol_thumbs_up.svg.png" decoding="async" width="12" height="16" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/87/Symbol_thumbs_up.svg/18px-Symbol_thumbs_up.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/87/Symbol_thumbs_up.svg/24px-Symbol_thumbs_up.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="765" data-file-height="990" /></span></span> <a href="/wiki/User:Star_Manatee" title="User:Star Manatee">Star Manatee</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Star_Manatee" title="User talk:Star Manatee">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Help_desk#c-Star_Manatee-20250315133400-Scope_creep-20250315132700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:34, 15 March 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Star_Manatee-20250315133400-Scope_creep-20250315132700"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250315133400","author":"Star Manatee","type":"comment","level":7,"id":"c-Star_Manatee-20250315133400-Scope_creep-20250315132700","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Star_Manatee-20250315133400-Scope_creep-20250315132700"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-TipsyElephant-20250315121000","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-AI_generated_content-March_15-20250315121000","replies":["c-TipsyElephant-20250315121000-AI_generated_content"],"text":"AI generated content","linkableTitle":"AI generated content"}--><h2 id="AI_generated_content" data-mw-thread-id="h-AI_generated_content-March_15-20250315121000"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-AI_generated_content-March_15-20250315121000"></span>AI generated content<span data-mw-comment-end="h-AI_generated_content-March_15-20250315121000"></span></h2><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-TipsyElephant-20250315121000","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-AI_generated_content-March_15-20250315121000","replies":["c-TipsyElephant-20250315121000-AI_generated_content"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-Scope_creep-20250315125600-TipsyElephant-20250315121000","timestamp":"20250315125600"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__2__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__2__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-TipsyElephant-20250315121000","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-AI_generated_content-March_15-20250315121000","replies":["c-TipsyElephant-20250315121000-AI_generated_content"],"text":"AI generated content","linkableTitle":"AI generated content"}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-TipsyElephant-20250315121000-AI_generated_content"></span>I believe that the episode summaries that were added to <a href="/wiki/Old_Gods_of_Appalachia" title="Old Gods of Appalachia">Old Gods of Appalachia</a> are AI generated. What is the process for dealing with this? It doesn't seem like it's a copyright violation so I guess it doesn't need a revdelete? But the edits go back to 2023 so I don't know if it can just be rolled back either. Is the solution to manually go through and delete the episode summaries? Also, what about thr editor who added them? <a href="/wiki/User:TipsyElephant" title="User:TipsyElephant">TipsyElephant</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:TipsyElephant" title="User talk:TipsyElephant">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Help_desk#c-TipsyElephant-20250315121000-AI_generated_content" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:10, 15 March 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-TipsyElephant-20250315121000-AI_generated_content"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250315121000","author":"TipsyElephant","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-TipsyElephant-20250315121000-AI_generated_content","replies":["c-Scope_creep-20250315125600-TipsyElephant-20250315121000"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-TipsyElephant-20250315121000-AI_generated_content"></span> </p> <dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Scope_creep-20250315125600-TipsyElephant-20250315121000"></span>I certainly looks like it. I would report the whole lot to the <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_AI_Cleanup" title="Wikipedia talk:WikiProject AI Cleanup">Wikipedia talk:WikiProject AI Cleanup</a> noticeboard for a second opinion and it can be tracked. The process is to remove the stuff and have a chat with the editor who put it, informing them its not acceptable. I don't think wee have got as far as publishing a warning template for editors as yet, but the folk at the noticeboard will keep you right. You could tag which is there, it but it will end up coming to me, since I seem to be the only one processing them. They go into Category:Articles containing suspected AI-generated texts I would remove it. <b><span style="text-shadow:7px 7px 8px black; font-family:Papyrus"><a href="/wiki/User:Scope_creep" title="User:Scope creep"><span style="color:#3399ff">scope_creep</span></a><sup><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Scope_creep#top" title="User talk:Scope creep">Talk</a></sup></span></b> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Help_desk#c-Scope_creep-20250315125600-TipsyElephant-20250315121000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:56, 15 March 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Scope_creep-20250315125600-TipsyElephant-20250315121000"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250315125600","author":"Scope creep","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Scope_creep-20250315125600-TipsyElephant-20250315121000","replies":[],"displayName":"scope_creep"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Scope_creep-20250315125600-TipsyElephant-20250315121000"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Gnu779-20250315142500","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Longest_Wikipedia_Page_Title-March_15-20250315142500","replies":["c-Gnu779-20250315142500-Longest_Wikipedia_Page_Title"],"text":"Longest Wikipedia Page Title","linkableTitle":"Longest Wikipedia Page Title"}--><h2 id="Longest_Wikipedia_Page_Title" data-mw-thread-id="h-Longest_Wikipedia_Page_Title-March_15-20250315142500"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Longest_Wikipedia_Page_Title-March_15-20250315142500"></span>Longest Wikipedia Page Title<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Longest_Wikipedia_Page_Title-March_15-20250315142500"></span></h2><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Gnu779-20250315142500","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Longest_Wikipedia_Page_Title-March_15-20250315142500","replies":["c-Gnu779-20250315142500-Longest_Wikipedia_Page_Title"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-Pppery-20250315142700-Gnu779-20250315142500","timestamp":"20250315142700"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__2__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__2__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Gnu779-20250315142500","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Longest_Wikipedia_Page_Title-March_15-20250315142500","replies":["c-Gnu779-20250315142500-Longest_Wikipedia_Page_Title"],"text":"Longest Wikipedia Page Title","linkableTitle":"Longest Wikipedia Page Title"}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Gnu779-20250315142500-Longest_Wikipedia_Page_Title"></span>Which page has the longest Wikipedia page title? <abbr title="Sad face" style="border-bottom: none;"><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/06/Face-sad.svg/18px-Face-sad.svg.png" decoding="async" width="18" height="18" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/06/Face-sad.svg/27px-Face-sad.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/06/Face-sad.svg/36px-Face-sad.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="48" data-file-height="48" /></span></span></abbr> Gnu779 (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Gnu779" title="User talk:Gnu779"> talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Help_desk#c-Gnu779-20250315142500-Longest_Wikipedia_Page_Title" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:25, 15 March 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Gnu779-20250315142500-Longest_Wikipedia_Page_Title"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250315142500","author":"Gnu779","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Gnu779-20250315142500-Longest_Wikipedia_Page_Title","replies":["c-Pppery-20250315142700-Gnu779-20250315142500"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Gnu779-20250315142500-Longest_Wikipedia_Page_Title"></span> </p> <dl><dd><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_records#Articles_with_the_longest_titles" title="Wikipedia:Wikipedia records"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Pppery-20250315142700-Gnu779-20250315142500"></span>WP:Wikipedia records#Articles with the longest titles</a>. <a href="/wiki/User:Pppery" title="User:Pppery">* Pppery *</a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Pppery" title="User talk:Pppery"><sub style="color:#800000">it has begun...</sub></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Help_desk#c-Pppery-20250315142700-Gnu779-20250315142500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:27, 15 March 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Pppery-20250315142700-Gnu779-20250315142500"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250315142700","author":"Pppery","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Pppery-20250315142700-Gnu779-20250315142500","replies":[],"displayName":"* Pppery *"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Pppery-20250315142700-Gnu779-20250315142500"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Camilasdandelions-20250315173400","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-How_can_I_promote_discussion_that_I_opened?-March_15-20250315173400","replies":["c-Camilasdandelions-20250315173400-How_can_I_promote_discussion_that_I_opened?"],"text":"How can I promote discussion that I opened?","linkableTitle":"How can I promote discussion that I opened?"}--><h2 id="How_can_I_promote_discussion_that_I_opened?" data-mw-thread-id="h-How_can_I_promote_discussion_that_I_opened?-March_15-20250315173400"><span id="How_can_I_promote_discussion_that_I_opened.3F"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-How_can_I_promote_discussion_that_I_opened?-March_15-20250315173400"></span>How can I promote discussion that I opened?<span data-mw-comment-end="h-How_can_I_promote_discussion_that_I_opened?-March_15-20250315173400"></span></h2><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Camilasdandelions-20250315173400","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-How_can_I_promote_discussion_that_I_opened?-March_15-20250315173400","replies":["c-Camilasdandelions-20250315173400-How_can_I_promote_discussion_that_I_opened?"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-Camilasdandelions-20250316003900-Musiconeologist-20250315192400","timestamp":"20250316003900"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__4__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__3__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Camilasdandelions-20250315173400","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-How_can_I_promote_discussion_that_I_opened?-March_15-20250315173400","replies":["c-Camilasdandelions-20250315173400-How_can_I_promote_discussion_that_I_opened?"],"text":"How can I promote discussion that I opened?","linkableTitle":"How can I promote discussion that I opened?"}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Camilasdandelions-20250315173400-How_can_I_promote_discussion_that_I_opened?"></span>When I opened discussion, usually no one participates. So I want to promote it, but I don't know how.. <a href="/wiki/User:Camilasdandelions" title="User:Camilasdandelions"><span style="font-family: 'Comic Sans MS'; color:#ff85f9"><b> <i>Camilasdandelions</i> </b></span></a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Camilasdandelions" title="User talk:Camilasdandelions"><span style="font-size: 0.95em; font-family: Georgia; color:#2550a4">talk!</span></a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Help_desk#c-Camilasdandelions-20250315173400-How_can_I_promote_discussion_that_I_opened?" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:34, 15 March 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Camilasdandelions-20250315173400-How_can_I_promote_discussion_that_I_opened?"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250315173400","author":"Camilasdandelions","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Camilasdandelions-20250315173400-How_can_I_promote_discussion_that_I_opened?","replies":["c-TSventon-20250315190200-Camilasdandelions-20250315173400","c-Musiconeologist-20250315192400-Camilasdandelions-20250315173400"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Camilasdandelions-20250315173400-How_can_I_promote_discussion_that_I_opened?"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-TSventon-20250315190200-Camilasdandelions-20250315173400"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:Camilasdandelions" title="User:Camilasdandelions">Camilasdandelions</a>:</span> Unfortunately questions on most article talk pages mostly go unanswered. You could try some of the suggestions at <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Canvassing#Appropriate_notification" title="Wikipedia:Canvassing">Wikipedia:Canvassing#Appropriate notification</a>. <a href="/wiki/User:TSventon" title="User:TSventon">TSventon</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:TSventon" title="User talk:TSventon">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Help_desk#c-TSventon-20250315190200-Camilasdandelions-20250315173400" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:02, 15 March 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-TSventon-20250315190200-Camilasdandelions-20250315173400"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250315190200","author":"TSventon","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-TSventon-20250315190200-Camilasdandelions-20250315173400","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-TSventon-20250315190200-Camilasdandelions-20250315173400"></span> <dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Musiconeologist-20250315192400-Camilasdandelions-20250315173400"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:Camilasdandelions" title="User:Camilasdandelions">Camilasdandelions</a>:</span> You have to learn the fine art of collecting folk which is based on personal charisma, presence, hard work and results. Find friends and influence them. Offer to collaborate. Takes time. Hope that helps. <b><span style="text-shadow:7px 7px 8px black; font-family:Papyrus"><a href="/wiki/User:Scope_creep" title="User:Scope creep"><span style="color:#3399ff">scope_creep</span></a><sup><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Scope_creep#top" title="User talk:Scope creep">Talk</a></sup></span></b> 19:21, 15 March 2025</dd></dl></dd> <dd>@<a href="/wiki/User:Camilasdandelions" title="User:Camilasdandelions">Camilasdandelions</a> It depends a bit on whether it's something potentially contentious, or just a simple query or request for assistance. For context, do you mean <a href="/wiki/Talk:Freaking_Me_Out#Single" title="Talk:Freaking Me Out">this</a> one? <a href="/wiki/User:Musiconeologist" title="User:Musiconeologist">Musiconeologist</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Musiconeologist" title="User talk:Musiconeologist">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Help_desk#c-Musiconeologist-20250315192400-Camilasdandelions-20250315173400" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:24, 15 March 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Musiconeologist-20250315192400-Camilasdandelions-20250315173400"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250315192400","author":"Musiconeologist","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Musiconeologist-20250315192400-Camilasdandelions-20250315173400","replies":["c-Camilasdandelions-20250316003900-Musiconeologist-20250315192400"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Musiconeologist-20250315192400-Camilasdandelions-20250315173400"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Camilasdandelions-20250316003900-Musiconeologist-20250315192400"></span>Yes :( <a href="/wiki/User:Camilasdandelions" title="User:Camilasdandelions"><span style="font-family: 'Comic Sans MS'; color:#ff85f9"><b> <i>Camilasdandelions</i> </b></span></a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Camilasdandelions" title="User talk:Camilasdandelions"><span style="font-size: 0.95em; font-family: Georgia; color:#2550a4">talk!</span></a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Help_desk#c-Camilasdandelions-20250316003900-Musiconeologist-20250315192400" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:39, 16 March 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Camilasdandelions-20250316003900-Musiconeologist-20250315192400"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250316003900","author":"Camilasdandelions","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Camilasdandelions-20250316003900-Musiconeologist-20250315192400","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Camilasdandelions-20250316003900-Musiconeologist-20250315192400"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-NewBorders-20250315185700","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-I_received_an_email_from_a_user_to_close_a_discussion_-_I'd_like_to_ask_for_feed-March_15-20250315185700","replies":["c-NewBorders-20250315185700-I_received_an_email_from_a_user_to_close_a_discussion_-_I'd_like_to_ask_for_feed"],"text":"I received an email from a user to close a discussion - I'd like to ask for feedback here as to what to do","linkableTitle":"I received an email from a user to close a discussion - I'd like to ask for feedback here as to what to do"}--><h2 id="I_received_an_email_from_a_user_to_close_a_discussion_-_I'd_like_to_ask_for_feedback_here_as_to_what_to_do" data-mw-thread-id="h-I_received_an_email_from_a_user_to_close_a_discussion_-_I'd_like_to_ask_for_feed-March_15-20250315185700"><span id="I_received_an_email_from_a_user_to_close_a_discussion_-_I.27d_like_to_ask_for_feedback_here_as_to_what_to_do"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-I_received_an_email_from_a_user_to_close_a_discussion_-_I'd_like_to_ask_for_feed-March_15-20250315185700"></span>I received an email from a user to close a discussion - I'd like to ask for feedback here as to what to do<span data-mw-comment-end="h-I_received_an_email_from_a_user_to_close_a_discussion_-_I'd_like_to_ask_for_feed-March_15-20250315185700"></span></h2><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-NewBorders-20250315185700","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-I_received_an_email_from_a_user_to_close_a_discussion_-_I'd_like_to_ask_for_feed-March_15-20250315185700","replies":["c-NewBorders-20250315185700-I_received_an_email_from_a_user_to_close_a_discussion_-_I'd_like_to_ask_for_feed"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-NewBorders-20250315204000-Scope_creep-20250315191700","timestamp":"20250315204000"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__4__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__2__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-NewBorders-20250315185700","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-I_received_an_email_from_a_user_to_close_a_discussion_-_I'd_like_to_ask_for_feed-March_15-20250315185700","replies":["c-NewBorders-20250315185700-I_received_an_email_from_a_user_to_close_a_discussion_-_I'd_like_to_ask_for_feed"],"text":"I received an email from a user to close a discussion - I'd like to ask for feedback here as to what to do","linkableTitle":"I received an email from a user to close a discussion - I'd like to ask for feedback here as to what to do"}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-NewBorders-20250315185700-I_received_an_email_from_a_user_to_close_a_discussion_-_I'd_like_to_ask_for_feed"></span>Hello, I wasn't sure whether to ask this: </p> <ul><li>Here;</li> <li>At the <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Teahouse" title="Wikipedia:Teahouse">Teahouse</a>;</li> <li>At the <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard" title="Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard">Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard</a>;</li> <li>By contacting an individual admin.</li></ul> <p>I elected to end up posting here as this seems more like a general-purpose place for this, but if this is wrong I do apologize; please let me know and I will discuss in a more appropriate place. </p><p>So for context, I'm a relatively new user, but I do lurk on <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:ANI" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:ANI">WP:ANI</a>, and I've dipped my toes in closing discussions as an uninvoled editor, in order to become more familiar with administrative processes as I enjoy this kind of thing. I got an email from the user @<a href="/wiki/User:Rejoy2003" title="User:Rejoy2003">Rejoy2003</a> (which I am pinging here for transparency's sake - my intent is not to "snitch" or anything) telling me that they saw the above-mentioned work, and asking me as a result to close <a href="/wiki/Talk:Revolutionary_Goans_Party#Proposed_merge_of_Manoj_Parab_into_Revolutionary_Goans_Party" title="Talk:Revolutionary Goans Party">this merge proposal</a> that has been open for a couple weeks at this point and seems to have a small, albeit clear, consensus against it, with arguments against the merge that seem valid to me, having looked at both articles. I am unfamiliar with the subject matter, though, and am not that well-versed in actually dealing with content discussions or closes like this one (particularly with regards to things like <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:LOCALCONSENSUS" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:LOCALCONSENSUS">WP:LOCALCONSENSUS</a> and the like). </p><p>I don't mind closing it, of course, but I'd rather get feedback from more experienced editors before doing anything here. Should I post this at <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Proposed_article_mergers" title="Wikipedia:Proposed article mergers">Proposed article mergers</a> or <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Closure_requests" title="Wikipedia:Closure requests">Closure requests</a>, or just go ahead with this? Thanks for any help. <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:NewBorders&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:NewBorders (page does not exist)">NewBorders</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:NewBorders" title="User talk:NewBorders">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Help_desk#c-NewBorders-20250315185700-I_received_an_email_from_a_user_to_close_a_discussion_-_I'd_like_to_ask_for_feed" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:57, 15 March 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-NewBorders-20250315185700-I_received_an_email_from_a_user_to_close_a_discussion_-_I'd_like_to_ask_for_feed"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250315185700","author":"NewBorders","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-NewBorders-20250315185700-I_received_an_email_from_a_user_to_close_a_discussion_-_I'd_like_to_ask_for_feed","replies":["c-Scope_creep-20250315191700-NewBorders-20250315185700"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-NewBorders-20250315185700-I_received_an_email_from_a_user_to_close_a_discussion_-_I'd_like_to_ask_for_feed"></span> </p> <dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Scope_creep-20250315191700-NewBorders-20250315185700"></span>Hi <span class="template-ping">@<a href="/w/index.php?title=User:NewBorders&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:NewBorders (page does not exist)">NewBorders</a>:</span> Here is the ideal place to ask this question. Its been opened for 3 weeks and 4 days and you have two immediate opposes. As two editors have opposed from the beginning, pretty firm, its unlikely to be a merge, so not posting to <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:MERGEREQ" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:MERGEREQ">WP:MERGEREQ</a>. I just close it with "Its been opposed". You could leave it open for another couple weeks but its doubtful you'll get any other responses. They don't seem to be natural merge targets. One is an org, the other is a BLP. <b><span style="text-shadow:7px 7px 8px black; font-family:Papyrus"><a href="/wiki/User:Scope_creep" title="User:Scope creep"><span style="color:#3399ff">scope_creep</span></a><sup><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Scope_creep#top" title="User talk:Scope creep">Talk</a></sup></span></b> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Help_desk#c-Scope_creep-20250315191700-NewBorders-20250315185700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:17, 15 March 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Scope_creep-20250315191700-NewBorders-20250315185700"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250315191700","author":"Scope creep","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Scope_creep-20250315191700-NewBorders-20250315185700","replies":["c-NewBorders-20250315201100-Scope_creep-20250315191700","c-NewBorders-20250315204000-Scope_creep-20250315191700"],"displayName":"scope_creep"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Scope_creep-20250315191700-NewBorders-20250315185700"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-NewBorders-20250315201100-Scope_creep-20250315191700"></span>Thanks for the advice! I'm glad my original reading seemed pretty accurate. <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:NewBorders&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:NewBorders (page does not exist)">NewBorders</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:NewBorders" title="User talk:NewBorders">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Help_desk#c-NewBorders-20250315201100-Scope_creep-20250315191700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:11, 15 March 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-NewBorders-20250315201100-Scope_creep-20250315191700"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250315201100","author":"NewBorders","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-NewBorders-20250315201100-Scope_creep-20250315191700","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-NewBorders-20250315201100-Scope_creep-20250315191700"></span></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-NewBorders-20250315204000-Scope_creep-20250315191700"></span>I just closed it. I think I've done everything properly, including removing the merge templates and the like? If I've done anything wrong, please someone let me know and I will correct it. <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:NewBorders&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:NewBorders (page does not exist)">NewBorders</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:NewBorders" title="User talk:NewBorders">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Help_desk#c-NewBorders-20250315204000-Scope_creep-20250315191700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:40, 15 March 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-NewBorders-20250315204000-Scope_creep-20250315191700"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250315204000","author":"NewBorders","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-NewBorders-20250315204000-Scope_creep-20250315191700","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-NewBorders-20250315204000-Scope_creep-20250315191700"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading1"><h1 id="March_16" data-mw-thread-id="h-March_16-20250316040700"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-March_16-20250316040700"></span>March 16<span data-mw-comment-end="h-March_16-20250316040700"></span></h1></div> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-F\u00e9lix_An-20250316040700","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-I_have_a_feeling_someone_is_following_me_watching_my_every_edit,_and_it's_making-March_16-20250316040700","replies":["c-F\u00e9lix_An-20250316040700-I_have_a_feeling_someone_is_following_me_watching_my_every_edit,_and_it's_making"],"text":"I have a feeling someone is following me watching my every edit, and it's making me uncomfortable","linkableTitle":"I have a feeling someone is following me watching my every edit, and it's making me uncomfortable"}--><h2 id="I_have_a_feeling_someone_is_following_me_watching_my_every_edit,_and_it's_making_me_uncomfortable" data-mw-thread-id="h-I_have_a_feeling_someone_is_following_me_watching_my_every_edit,_and_it's_making-March_16-20250316040700"><span id="I_have_a_feeling_someone_is_following_me_watching_my_every_edit.2C_and_it.27s_making_me_uncomfortable"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-I_have_a_feeling_someone_is_following_me_watching_my_every_edit,_and_it's_making-March_16-20250316040700"></span>I have a feeling someone is following me watching my every edit, and it's making me uncomfortable<span data-mw-comment-end="h-I_have_a_feeling_someone_is_following_me_watching_my_every_edit,_and_it's_making-March_16-20250316040700"></span></h2><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-F\u00e9lix_An-20250316040700","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-I_have_a_feeling_someone_is_following_me_watching_my_every_edit,_and_it's_making-March_16-20250316040700","replies":["c-F\u00e9lix_An-20250316040700-I_have_a_feeling_someone_is_following_me_watching_my_every_edit,_and_it's_making"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-TNM101-20250316070400-F\u00e9lix_An-20250316040700","timestamp":"20250316070400"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__2__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__2__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-F\u00e9lix_An-20250316040700","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-I_have_a_feeling_someone_is_following_me_watching_my_every_edit,_and_it's_making-March_16-20250316040700","replies":["c-F\u00e9lix_An-20250316040700-I_have_a_feeling_someone_is_following_me_watching_my_every_edit,_and_it's_making"],"text":"I have a feeling someone is following me watching my every edit, and it's making me uncomfortable","linkableTitle":"I have a feeling someone is following me watching my every edit, and it's making me uncomfortable"}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Félix_An-20250316040700-I_have_a_feeling_someone_is_following_me_watching_my_every_edit,_and_it's_making"></span>I have a feeling that someone (who I will not name) is <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:HOUNDING" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:HOUNDING">WP:HOUNDING</a> me across Wikipedia. They once even showed up on my talk page for an unrelated matter. How can I prevent this? It makes me uncomfortable. <a href="/wiki/User:F%C3%A9lix_An" title="User:Félix An">Félix An</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:F%C3%A9lix_An" title="User talk:Félix An">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Help_desk#c-Félix_An-20250316040700-I_have_a_feeling_someone_is_following_me_watching_my_every_edit,_and_it's_making" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">04:07, 16 March 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Félix_An-20250316040700-I_have_a_feeling_someone_is_following_me_watching_my_every_edit,_and_it's_making"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250316040700","author":"F\u00e9lix An","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-F\u00e9lix_An-20250316040700-I_have_a_feeling_someone_is_following_me_watching_my_every_edit,_and_it's_making","replies":["c-TNM101-20250316070400-F\u00e9lix_An-20250316040700"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Félix_An-20250316040700-I_have_a_feeling_someone_is_following_me_watching_my_every_edit,_and_it's_making"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-TNM101-20250316070400-Félix_An-20250316040700"></span>I think the good thing is to ignore, but if you're feeling uncomfortable, it might be best to email an admin and let them know who is hounding you and they will see if it needs a warning or a block. I don't think going to the <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:ArbCom" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:ArbCom">ArbCom</a> is required right now, unless there has been any off-wiki harassment or there is confidential information. I will let you know that some editors might be tracking your edits as you were recently unblocked, and this kind of following around is not usually considered harassment as it helps them to see if you have done any violations of your unblocking criteria <b><a href="/wiki/User:TNM101" title="User:TNM101"><span style="color:red;">TNM</span><span style="color:black;">101</span></a></b> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:TNM101" title="User talk:TNM101"><span style="color:blue;">chat</span></a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Help_desk#c-TNM101-20250316070400-Félix_An-20250316040700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">07:04, 16 March 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-TNM101-20250316070400-Félix_An-20250316040700"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250316070400","author":"TNM101","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-TNM101-20250316070400-F\u00e9lix_An-20250316040700","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-TNM101-20250316070400-Félix_An-20250316040700"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Nayyn-20250316080300","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Changing_an_article_name_before_closing_discussion?-March_16-20250316080300","replies":["c-Nayyn-20250316080300-Changing_an_article_name_before_closing_discussion?"],"text":"Changing an article name before closing discussion?","linkableTitle":"Changing an article name before closing discussion?"}--><h2 id="Changing_an_article_name_before_closing_discussion?" data-mw-thread-id="h-Changing_an_article_name_before_closing_discussion?-March_16-20250316080300"><span id="Changing_an_article_name_before_closing_discussion.3F"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Changing_an_article_name_before_closing_discussion?-March_16-20250316080300"></span>Changing an article name before closing discussion?<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Changing_an_article_name_before_closing_discussion?-March_16-20250316080300"></span></h2><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Nayyn-20250316080300","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Changing_an_article_name_before_closing_discussion?-March_16-20250316080300","replies":["c-Nayyn-20250316080300-Changing_an_article_name_before_closing_discussion?"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-Scope_creep-20250316123200-Scope_creep-20250316110200","timestamp":"20250316123200"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__8__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__3__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Nayyn-20250316080300","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Changing_an_article_name_before_closing_discussion?-March_16-20250316080300","replies":["c-Nayyn-20250316080300-Changing_an_article_name_before_closing_discussion?"],"text":"Changing an article name before closing discussion?","linkableTitle":"Changing an article name before closing discussion?"}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Nayyn-20250316080300-Changing_an_article_name_before_closing_discussion?"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Symbol_redirect_vote2.svg" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/8/89/Symbol_redirect_vote2.svg/20px-Symbol_redirect_vote2.svg.png" decoding="async" width="20" height="20" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/8/89/Symbol_redirect_vote2.svg/30px-Symbol_redirect_vote2.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/8/89/Symbol_redirect_vote2.svg/40px-Symbol_redirect_vote2.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="200" data-file-height="200" /></a></span> <b>Courtesy link:</b> <a href="/wiki/Nia_(charity)" title="Nia (charity)">Nia (charity)</a> </p><p>Hi, An editor moved an article I wrote to a new name without doing <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:BEFOREMOVING" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:BEFOREMOVING">WP:Beforemoving</a>. I moved it back because the name they moved it to was not appropriate for the geographic region the article refers to. I told them to be mindful and to please do some research before moving a page. </p><p>In response, they put a name change discussion tag on the page to move it a second name. I responded with an objection. </p><p>After the discussion was up for a few days, this editor then adjusted the name under discussion to a 3rd name. </p><p>This was done without changing the name discussion template and without closing the prior discussion. They just adapted the tagged name. Is this ok to do? Some of the points in the prior discussion refer to the initial name (the 2nd one) that the discussion was posted about. </p><p>This editor also accused me if having a conflict of interest with the subject of the page. I do not have any relationship to the subject of the page. This is a personal attack. </p><p>At this point it feels the drive to change the name on the article is not based on any benefit to the article, rather it's a personal grievance against me because I reverted their first name change. What should be the best course of action here? There's not much discussion on the talk page as it's not a controversial page. I don't think the behavior is appropriate and I'm not sure what to do here. <a href="/wiki/User:Nayyn" title="User:Nayyn">Nayyn</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Nayyn" title="User talk:Nayyn">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Help_desk#c-Nayyn-20250316080300-Changing_an_article_name_before_closing_discussion?" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">08:03, 16 March 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Nayyn-20250316080300-Changing_an_article_name_before_closing_discussion?"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250316080300","author":"Nayyn","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Nayyn-20250316080300-Changing_an_article_name_before_closing_discussion?","replies":["c-Scope_creep-20250316095400-Nayyn-20250316080300","c-Scope_creep-20250316101100-Nayyn-20250316080300"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Nayyn-20250316080300-Changing_an_article_name_before_closing_discussion?"></span> </p> <dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Scope_creep-20250316095400-Nayyn-20250316080300"></span>I've left a note at MPian's talk page to find out why the name change took place. <b><span style="text-shadow:7px 7px 8px black; font-family:Papyrus"><a href="/wiki/User:Scope_creep" title="User:Scope creep"><span style="color:#3399ff">scope_creep</span></a><sup><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Scope_creep#top" title="User talk:Scope creep">Talk</a></sup></span></b> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Help_desk#c-Scope_creep-20250316095400-Nayyn-20250316080300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:54, 16 March 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Scope_creep-20250316095400-Nayyn-20250316080300"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250316095400","author":"Scope creep","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Scope_creep-20250316095400-Nayyn-20250316080300","replies":[],"displayName":"scope_creep"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Scope_creep-20250316095400-Nayyn-20250316080300"></span></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Scope_creep-20250316101100-Nayyn-20250316080300"></span>The article clearly states that its in British English so the name shouldn't have been changed. Its known as a charity, been in existance for 50 years so that is likely the common name. I've not done an archival search but its known as Nia (charity). The website refers to it as Nia. Its one of these names that are easy to remember, you can attach to it easily. The editor who changed it is fairly new, 3 months I think, so its inexperience. I see what the note says, when they come in. <b><span style="text-shadow:7px 7px 8px black; font-family:Papyrus"><a href="/wiki/User:Scope_creep" title="User:Scope creep"><span style="color:#3399ff">scope_creep</span></a><sup><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Scope_creep#top" title="User talk:Scope creep">Talk</a></sup></span></b> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Help_desk#c-Scope_creep-20250316101100-Nayyn-20250316080300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:11, 16 March 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Scope_creep-20250316101100-Nayyn-20250316080300"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250316101100","author":"Scope creep","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Scope_creep-20250316101100-Nayyn-20250316080300","replies":["c-TSventon-20250316103900-Scope_creep-20250316101100"],"displayName":"scope_creep"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Scope_creep-20250316101100-Nayyn-20250316080300"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-TSventon-20250316103900-Scope_creep-20250316101100"></span>I don't know why the article was moved to Nia (organization), but the official name is "the nia project", which means that Wikipedia policies on capitalisation and names beginning with "the" are relevant. Based on the first five references, it is reasonable to argue that the "Nia Project" is the common name of the organisation. <a href="/wiki/User:TSventon" title="User:TSventon">TSventon</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:TSventon" title="User talk:TSventon">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Help_desk#c-TSventon-20250316103900-Scope_creep-20250316101100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:39, 16 March 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-TSventon-20250316103900-Scope_creep-20250316101100"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250316103900","author":"TSventon","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-TSventon-20250316103900-Scope_creep-20250316101100","replies":["c-Scope_creep-20250316105800-TSventon-20250316103900"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-TSventon-20250316103900-Scope_creep-20250316101100"></span> <dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Scope_creep-20250316105800-TSventon-20250316103900"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:TSventon" title="User:TSventon">TSventon</a>:</span> Where did you find that. <b><span style="text-shadow:7px 7px 8px black; font-family:Papyrus"><a href="/wiki/User:Scope_creep" title="User:Scope creep"><span style="color:#3399ff">scope_creep</span></a><sup><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Scope_creep#top" title="User talk:Scope creep">Talk</a></sup></span></b> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Help_desk#c-Scope_creep-20250316105800-TSventon-20250316103900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:58, 16 March 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Scope_creep-20250316105800-TSventon-20250316103900"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250316105800","author":"Scope creep","type":"comment","level":5,"id":"c-Scope_creep-20250316105800-TSventon-20250316103900","replies":["c-Scope_creep-20250316110200-Scope_creep-20250316105800"],"displayName":"scope_creep"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Scope_creep-20250316105800-TSventon-20250316103900"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Scope_creep-20250316110200-Scope_creep-20250316105800"></span>I see it.That is the official name. All their docs refer to it as Nia. Even the recent website redesign. <b><span style="text-shadow:7px 7px 8px black; font-family:Papyrus"><a href="/wiki/User:Scope_creep" title="User:Scope creep"><span style="color:#3399ff">scope_creep</span></a><sup><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Scope_creep#top" title="User talk:Scope creep">Talk</a></sup></span></b> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Help_desk#c-Scope_creep-20250316110200-Scope_creep-20250316105800" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:02, 16 March 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Scope_creep-20250316110200-Scope_creep-20250316105800"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250316110200","author":"Scope creep","type":"comment","level":6,"id":"c-Scope_creep-20250316110200-Scope_creep-20250316105800","replies":["c-TSventon-20250316113500-Scope_creep-20250316110200","c-Scope_creep-20250316123200-Scope_creep-20250316110200"],"displayName":"scope_creep"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Scope_creep-20250316110200-Scope_creep-20250316105800"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-TSventon-20250316113500-Scope_creep-20250316110200"></span>According to <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:COMMONNAME" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:COMMONNAME">WP:COMMONNAME</a>, en Wikipedia looks at what independent reliable sources call a subject, not what the subject calls itself. <a href="/wiki/User:TSventon" title="User:TSventon">TSventon</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:TSventon" title="User talk:TSventon">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Help_desk#c-TSventon-20250316113500-Scope_creep-20250316110200" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:35, 16 March 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-TSventon-20250316113500-Scope_creep-20250316110200"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250316113500","author":"TSventon","type":"comment","level":7,"id":"c-TSventon-20250316113500-Scope_creep-20250316110200","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-TSventon-20250316113500-Scope_creep-20250316110200"></span></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Scope_creep-20250316123200-Scope_creep-20250316110200"></span>I know, but your not confusing it with this <a href="/wiki/Project_NIA" title="Project NIA">Project NIA</a> or this Emory School of Medicine Nia Project? <b><span style="text-shadow:7px 7px 8px black; font-family:Papyrus"><a href="/wiki/User:Scope_creep" title="User:Scope creep"><span style="color:#3399ff">scope_creep</span></a><sup><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Scope_creep#top" title="User talk:Scope creep">Talk</a></sup></span></b> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Help_desk#c-Scope_creep-20250316123200-Scope_creep-20250316110200" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:32, 16 March 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Scope_creep-20250316123200-Scope_creep-20250316110200"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250316123200","author":"Scope creep","type":"comment","level":7,"id":"c-Scope_creep-20250316123200-Scope_creep-20250316110200","replies":[],"displayName":"scope_creep"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Scope_creep-20250316123200-Scope_creep-20250316110200"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-AndyJones-20250316102900","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Sources-March_16-20250316102900","replies":["c-AndyJones-20250316102900-Sources"],"text":"Sources","linkableTitle":"Sources"}--><h2 id="Sources" data-mw-thread-id="h-Sources-March_16-20250316102900"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Sources-March_16-20250316102900"></span>Sources<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Sources-March_16-20250316102900"></span></h2><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-AndyJones-20250316102900","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Sources-March_16-20250316102900","replies":["c-AndyJones-20250316102900-Sources"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-AndyJones-20250316164000-Scope_creep-20250316123500","timestamp":"20250316164000"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__8__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__3__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-AndyJones-20250316102900","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Sources-March_16-20250316102900","replies":["c-AndyJones-20250316102900-Sources"],"text":"Sources","linkableTitle":"Sources"}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-AndyJones-20250316102900-Sources"></span>Another <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:CITEVAR" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:CITEVAR">WP:CITEVAR</a> question, if I may. I'm doing some work on <a href="/wiki/The_Tempest" title="The Tempest">The Tempest</a> and I see two differing footnote styles. If you look at <a href="/wiki/The_Tempest#References" title="The Tempest">its References section</a> you'll see what I mean. References 4, 6, 8, 13, 14 (etc.) take a different form from most others. The majority of footnotes use the {sfn} template and link through to something in the <a href="/wiki/The_Tempest#Sources" title="The Tempest">Sources section</a> - whereas these and many others use a {cite book} or {cite web} template. I acknowledge that achieving perfection might be a lot of work - but would the perfect solution be to create all the sources in the Sources section, and then to turn all footnotes in the text into {sfn}s. It would then all be consistent. <a href="/wiki/User:AndyJones" title="User:AndyJones">AndyJones</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:AndyJones" title="User talk:AndyJones">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Help_desk#c-AndyJones-20250316102900-Sources" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:29, 16 March 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-AndyJones-20250316102900-Sources"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250316102900","author":"AndyJones","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-AndyJones-20250316102900-Sources","replies":["c-Scope_creep-20250316104200-AndyJones-20250316102900"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-AndyJones-20250316102900-Sources"></span> </p> <dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Scope_creep-20250316104200-AndyJones-20250316102900"></span>Do you intend to take it to GA? <b><span style="text-shadow:7px 7px 8px black; font-family:Papyrus"><a href="/wiki/User:Scope_creep" title="User:Scope creep"><span style="color:#3399ff">scope_creep</span></a><sup><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Scope_creep#top" title="User talk:Scope creep">Talk</a></sup></span></b> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Help_desk#c-Scope_creep-20250316104200-AndyJones-20250316102900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:42, 16 March 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Scope_creep-20250316104200-AndyJones-20250316102900"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250316104200","author":"Scope creep","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Scope_creep-20250316104200-AndyJones-20250316102900","replies":["c-Scope_creep-20250316104700-Scope_creep-20250316104200","c-TSventon-20250316105100-Scope_creep-20250316104200"],"displayName":"scope_creep"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Scope_creep-20250316104200-AndyJones-20250316102900"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Scope_creep-20250316104700-Scope_creep-20250316104200"></span>If the article was going GA, they would like sfn tags as its nice and clean and easy to review. But it looks as though as its under some development. There is a lot of cn tags. The majority are in sfn, so I would convert the rest to sfn tags. Its a quite a small number. That article needs a wee bit of love and care. I've copyedited somewhat to fix a couple of problems with references. <b><span style="text-shadow:7px 7px 8px black; font-family:Papyrus"><a href="/wiki/User:Scope_creep" title="User:Scope creep"><span style="color:#3399ff">scope_creep</span></a><sup><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Scope_creep#top" title="User talk:Scope creep">Talk</a></sup></span></b> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Help_desk#c-Scope_creep-20250316104700-Scope_creep-20250316104200" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:47, 16 March 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Scope_creep-20250316104700-Scope_creep-20250316104200"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250316104700","author":"Scope creep","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Scope_creep-20250316104700-Scope_creep-20250316104200","replies":[],"displayName":"scope_creep"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Scope_creep-20250316104700-Scope_creep-20250316104200"></span></dd> <dd><small><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-TSventon-20250316105100-Scope_creep-20250316104200"></span>(<a href="/wiki/Help:Edit_conflict" title="Help:Edit conflict">edit conflict</a>)</small> <a href="/wiki/The_Tempest" title="The Tempest">The Tempest</a> is already a GA, so I checked the <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=The_Tempest&oldid=381782841">approved version</a> and all the sources were in the sources section there. <a href="/wiki/User:TSventon" title="User:TSventon">TSventon</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:TSventon" title="User talk:TSventon">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Help_desk#c-TSventon-20250316105100-Scope_creep-20250316104200" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:51, 16 March 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-TSventon-20250316105100-Scope_creep-20250316104200"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250316105100","author":"TSventon","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-TSventon-20250316105100-Scope_creep-20250316104200","replies":["c-Scope_creep-20250316105400-TSventon-20250316105100"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-TSventon-20250316105100-Scope_creep-20250316104200"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Scope_creep-20250316105400-TSventon-20250316105100"></span>I missed that. Its been horsed a wee bit. I'll give you a hand. Answer to question. Yes. <b><span style="text-shadow:7px 7px 8px black; font-family:Papyrus"><a href="/wiki/User:Scope_creep" title="User:Scope creep"><span style="color:#3399ff">scope_creep</span></a><sup><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Scope_creep#top" title="User talk:Scope creep">Talk</a></sup></span></b> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Help_desk#c-Scope_creep-20250316105400-TSventon-20250316105100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:54, 16 March 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Scope_creep-20250316105400-TSventon-20250316105100"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250316105400","author":"Scope creep","type":"comment","level":5,"id":"c-Scope_creep-20250316105400-TSventon-20250316105100","replies":["c-AndyJones-20250316120100-Scope_creep-20250316105400"],"displayName":"scope_creep"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Scope_creep-20250316105400-TSventon-20250316105100"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-AndyJones-20250316120100-Scope_creep-20250316105400"></span>Yes, it's a GA but it is undergoing quite an overhaul at the moment. Look for my name in the edit history for all the gory details. A lot of the {cn} tags were recently added by me but I am in the process of killing them all off. Thanks everyone for your help so far. <a href="/wiki/User:AndyJones" title="User:AndyJones">AndyJones</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:AndyJones" title="User talk:AndyJones">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Help_desk#c-AndyJones-20250316120100-Scope_creep-20250316105400" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:01, 16 March 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-AndyJones-20250316120100-Scope_creep-20250316105400"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250316120100","author":"AndyJones","type":"comment","level":6,"id":"c-AndyJones-20250316120100-Scope_creep-20250316105400","replies":["c-Scope_creep-20250316123500-AndyJones-20250316120100"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-AndyJones-20250316120100-Scope_creep-20250316105400"></span> <dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Scope_creep-20250316123500-AndyJones-20250316120100"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:AndyJones" title="User:AndyJones">AndyJones</a>:</span> I intend to do more. I noticed that some may be refering to the whole possibly, as a version of The Tempest. I posted a list to the talk page on what I find. <b><span style="text-shadow:7px 7px 8px black; font-family:Papyrus"><a href="/wiki/User:Scope_creep" title="User:Scope creep"><span style="color:#3399ff">scope_creep</span></a><sup><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Scope_creep#top" title="User talk:Scope creep">Talk</a></sup></span></b> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Help_desk#c-Scope_creep-20250316123500-AndyJones-20250316120100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:35, 16 March 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Scope_creep-20250316123500-AndyJones-20250316120100"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250316123500","author":"Scope creep","type":"comment","level":7,"id":"c-Scope_creep-20250316123500-AndyJones-20250316120100","replies":["c-AndyJones-20250316164000-Scope_creep-20250316123500"],"displayName":"scope_creep"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Scope_creep-20250316123500-AndyJones-20250316120100"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-AndyJones-20250316164000-Scope_creep-20250316123500"></span>Brilliant, thank you <span class="template-ping">@<a href="/wiki/User:Scope_creep" title="User:Scope creep">Scope creep</a>:</span>. As you can see I'm working my way through the major sources of the page, gradually, so do feel free to post anything you consider problematic on the talk page (where you'll see there's already the discussion <a href="/wiki/Talk:The_Tempest#GA_concerns" title="Talk:The Tempest">GA concerns</a>) and I will fix/delete/replace as appropriate. Thank you to <span class="template-ping">@<a href="/wiki/User:TSventon" title="User:TSventon">TSventon</a>:</span> also. <a href="/wiki/User:AndyJones" title="User:AndyJones">AndyJones</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:AndyJones" title="User talk:AndyJones">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Help_desk#c-AndyJones-20250316164000-Scope_creep-20250316123500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:40, 16 March 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-AndyJones-20250316164000-Scope_creep-20250316123500"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250316164000","author":"AndyJones","type":"comment","level":8,"id":"c-AndyJones-20250316164000-Scope_creep-20250316123500","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-AndyJones-20250316164000-Scope_creep-20250316123500"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Patrick_Welsh-20250316142700","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Notifications_for_WP:Peer_review_requests-March_16-20250316142700","replies":["c-Patrick_Welsh-20250316142700-Notifications_for_WP:Peer_review_requests"],"text":"Notifications for WP:Peer review requests","linkableTitle":"Notifications for WP:Peer review requests"}--><h2 id="Notifications_for_WP:Peer_review_requests" data-mw-thread-id="h-Notifications_for_WP:Peer_review_requests-March_16-20250316142700"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Notifications_for_WP:Peer_review_requests-March_16-20250316142700"></span>Notifications for <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Peer_review" title="Wikipedia:Peer review">WP:Peer review</a> requests<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Notifications_for_WP:Peer_review_requests-March_16-20250316142700"></span></h2><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Patrick_Welsh-20250316142700","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Notifications_for_WP:Peer_review_requests-March_16-20250316142700","replies":["c-Patrick_Welsh-20250316142700-Notifications_for_WP:Peer_review_requests"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-PrimeHunter-20250316211700-Patrick_Welsh-20250316183900","timestamp":"20250316211700"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__7__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__3__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Patrick_Welsh-20250316142700","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Notifications_for_WP:Peer_review_requests-March_16-20250316142700","replies":["c-Patrick_Welsh-20250316142700-Notifications_for_WP:Peer_review_requests"],"text":"Notifications for WP:Peer review requests","linkableTitle":"Notifications for WP:Peer review requests"}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Patrick_Welsh-20250316142700-Notifications_for_WP:Peer_review_requests"></span>Hi, I volunteer to do peer reviews and am subscribed to <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Peer_review/List_of_unanswered_reviews#Philosophy_and_religion" title="Wikipedia:Peer review/List of unanswered reviews">Wikipedia:Peer_review/List_of_unanswered_reviews#Philosophy_and_religion</a>, but for some reason I don't get notifications when new requests are listed. Could anyone advise? I'm open to helping out in other areas as well, but it's only this one for which I would like to receive some kind ping or notification. </p><p>Many thanks, <a href="/wiki/User:Patrick_Welsh" title="User:Patrick Welsh">Patrick</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Patrick_Welsh" title="User talk:Patrick Welsh">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Help_desk#c-Patrick_Welsh-20250316142700-Notifications_for_WP:Peer_review_requests" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:27, 16 March 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Patrick_Welsh-20250316142700-Notifications_for_WP:Peer_review_requests"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250316142700","author":"Patrick Welsh","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Patrick_Welsh-20250316142700-Notifications_for_WP:Peer_review_requests","replies":["c-Michael_D._Turnbull-20250316151400-Patrick_Welsh-20250316142700"],"displayName":"Patrick"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Patrick_Welsh-20250316142700-Notifications_for_WP:Peer_review_requests"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Michael_D._Turnbull-20250316151400-Patrick_Welsh-20250316142700"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:Patrick_Welsh" title="User:Patrick Welsh">Patrick Welsh</a> When I navigate to the link you supplied, I see the possibility to click on "subscribe" to that section. Have you done that? It should trigger a notification when someone adds new content there. You can check what you are subscribed to at <a href="/wiki/Special:TopicSubscriptions" title="Special:TopicSubscriptions">Special:TopicSubscriptions</a>. <a href="/wiki/User:Michael_D._Turnbull" title="User:Michael D. Turnbull">Mike Turnbull</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Michael_D._Turnbull" title="User talk:Michael D. Turnbull">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Help_desk#c-Michael_D._Turnbull-20250316151400-Patrick_Welsh-20250316142700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:14, 16 March 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Michael_D._Turnbull-20250316151400-Patrick_Welsh-20250316142700"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250316151400","author":"Michael D. Turnbull","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Michael_D._Turnbull-20250316151400-Patrick_Welsh-20250316142700","replies":["c-Patrick_Welsh-20250316153300-Michael_D._Turnbull-20250316151400"],"displayName":"Mike Turnbull"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Michael_D._Turnbull-20250316151400-Patrick_Welsh-20250316142700"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Patrick_Welsh-20250316153300-Michael_D._Turnbull-20250316151400"></span>Yes, I've clicked that, and my subscription is recognized (the only option presented to me is to "unsubscribe"). This has been an ongoing issue. I previously thought something might have been thrown off with a change to header titles or the like, but unsubscribing and resubscribing has not corrected the issue.</dd> <dd>I was not previously aware of <a href="/wiki/Special:TopicSubscriptions" title="Special:TopicSubscriptions">Special:TopicSubscriptions</a>, but the subscription does show up there with the "Latest notification" field reading "never"—even though there have definitely been new requests listed. <a href="/wiki/User:Patrick_Welsh" title="User:Patrick Welsh">Patrick</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Patrick_Welsh" title="User talk:Patrick Welsh">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Help_desk#c-Patrick_Welsh-20250316153300-Michael_D._Turnbull-20250316151400" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:33, 16 March 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Patrick_Welsh-20250316153300-Michael_D._Turnbull-20250316151400"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250316153300","author":"Patrick Welsh","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Patrick_Welsh-20250316153300-Michael_D._Turnbull-20250316151400","replies":["c-Michael_D._Turnbull-20250316155800-Patrick_Welsh-20250316153300"],"displayName":"Patrick"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Patrick_Welsh-20250316153300-Michael_D._Turnbull-20250316151400"></span> <dl><dd><s><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Michael_D._Turnbull-20250316155800-Patrick_Welsh-20250316153300"></span>I think that the problem is that topic subscriptions is a feature designed for talk pages and the page in question is a project page, not a talk page</s>. You might raise the issue at <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:VPT" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:VPT">WP:VPT</a>, as I suspect the "subscribe" option shouldn't be there at all. Or wait for <a href="/wiki/User:PrimeHunter" title="User:PrimeHunter">User:PrimeHunter</a> to show up here, as I'm sure he'll have the definitive answer. <a href="/wiki/User:Michael_D._Turnbull" title="User:Michael D. Turnbull">Mike Turnbull</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Michael_D._Turnbull" title="User talk:Michael D. Turnbull">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Help_desk#c-Michael_D._Turnbull-20250316155800-Patrick_Welsh-20250316153300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:58, 16 March 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Michael_D._Turnbull-20250316155800-Patrick_Welsh-20250316153300"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250316155800","author":"Michael D. Turnbull","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Michael_D._Turnbull-20250316155800-Patrick_Welsh-20250316153300","replies":["c-Michael_D._Turnbull-20250316172700-Michael_D._Turnbull-20250316155800"],"displayName":"Mike Turnbull"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Michael_D._Turnbull-20250316155800-Patrick_Welsh-20250316153300"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Michael_D._Turnbull-20250316172700-Michael_D._Turnbull-20250316155800"></span>... scrub that. This Help Desk page is also a Project page and subscribing here works fine. <a href="/wiki/User:Michael_D._Turnbull" title="User:Michael D. Turnbull">Mike Turnbull</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Michael_D._Turnbull" title="User talk:Michael D. Turnbull">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Help_desk#c-Michael_D._Turnbull-20250316172700-Michael_D._Turnbull-20250316155800" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:27, 16 March 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Michael_D._Turnbull-20250316172700-Michael_D._Turnbull-20250316155800"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250316172700","author":"Michael D. Turnbull","type":"comment","level":5,"id":"c-Michael_D._Turnbull-20250316172700-Michael_D._Turnbull-20250316155800","replies":["c-Patrick_Welsh-20250316183900-Michael_D._Turnbull-20250316172700"],"displayName":"Mike Turnbull"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Michael_D._Turnbull-20250316172700-Michael_D._Turnbull-20250316155800"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Patrick_Welsh-20250316183900-Michael_D._Turnbull-20250316172700"></span>Okay, thanks! I'll wait to see if PrimeHunter anyone else chimes in. (I'm subscribed to this query without following the whole page and get notifications just fine.) Cheers, <a href="/wiki/User:Patrick_Welsh" title="User:Patrick Welsh">Patrick</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Patrick_Welsh" title="User talk:Patrick Welsh">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Help_desk#c-Patrick_Welsh-20250316183900-Michael_D._Turnbull-20250316172700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:39, 16 March 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Patrick_Welsh-20250316183900-Michael_D._Turnbull-20250316172700"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250316183900","author":"Patrick Welsh","type":"comment","level":6,"id":"c-Patrick_Welsh-20250316183900-Michael_D._Turnbull-20250316172700","replies":["c-PrimeHunter-20250316211700-Patrick_Welsh-20250316183900"],"displayName":"Patrick"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Patrick_Welsh-20250316183900-Michael_D._Turnbull-20250316172700"></span> <dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-PrimeHunter-20250316211700-Patrick_Welsh-20250316183900"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:Patrick_Welsh" title="User:Patrick Welsh">Patrick Welsh</a>:</span> The page <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Peer_review/List_of_unanswered_reviews" title="Wikipedia:Peer review/List of unanswered reviews">Wikipedia:Peer review/List of unanswered reviews</a> hasn't been edited since 2022. The only content of <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Peer_review/List_of_unanswered_reviews#Philosophy_and_religion" title="Wikipedia:Peer review/List of unanswered reviews">Wikipedia:Peer review/List of unanswered reviews#Philosophy and religion</a> is a transclusion of <a href="/wiki/User:AnomieBOT/C/Philosophy_and_religion_peer_reviews" title="User:AnomieBOT/C/Philosophy and religion peer reviews">User:AnomieBOT/C/Philosophy and religion peer reviews</a> which transcludes something from other pages. You don't get notified if a transcluded page is edited. You can add <a href="/wiki/User:AnomieBOT/C/Philosophy_and_religion_peer_reviews" title="User:AnomieBOT/C/Philosophy and religion peer reviews">User:AnomieBOT/C/Philosophy and religion peer reviews</a> to your watchlist but not subscribe to it. <a href="/wiki/User:PrimeHunter" title="User:PrimeHunter">PrimeHunter</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:PrimeHunter" title="User talk:PrimeHunter">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Help_desk#c-PrimeHunter-20250316211700-Patrick_Welsh-20250316183900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:17, 16 March 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-PrimeHunter-20250316211700-Patrick_Welsh-20250316183900"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250316211700","author":"PrimeHunter","type":"comment","level":7,"id":"c-PrimeHunter-20250316211700-Patrick_Welsh-20250316183900","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-PrimeHunter-20250316211700-Patrick_Welsh-20250316183900"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Redfiona99-20250316215300","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Could_someone_look_something_up_for_me_in_the_Wikipedia_Library?-March_16-20250316215300","replies":["c-Redfiona99-20250316215300-Could_someone_look_something_up_for_me_in_the_Wikipedia_Library?"],"text":"Could someone look something up for me in the Wikipedia Library?","linkableTitle":"Could someone look something up for me in the Wikipedia Library?"}--><h2 id="Could_someone_look_something_up_for_me_in_the_Wikipedia_Library?" data-mw-thread-id="h-Could_someone_look_something_up_for_me_in_the_Wikipedia_Library?-March_16-20250316215300"><span id="Could_someone_look_something_up_for_me_in_the_Wikipedia_Library.3F"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Could_someone_look_something_up_for_me_in_the_Wikipedia_Library?-March_16-20250316215300"></span>Could someone look something up for me in the Wikipedia Library?<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Could_someone_look_something_up_for_me_in_the_Wikipedia_Library?-March_16-20250316215300"></span></h2><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Redfiona99-20250316215300","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Could_someone_look_something_up_for_me_in_the_Wikipedia_Library?-March_16-20250316215300","replies":["c-Redfiona99-20250316215300-Could_someone_look_something_up_for_me_in_the_Wikipedia_Library?"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-Redfiona99-20250316225200-Pppery-20250316223900","timestamp":"20250316225200"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__5__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__3__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Redfiona99-20250316215300","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Could_someone_look_something_up_for_me_in_the_Wikipedia_Library?-March_16-20250316215300","replies":["c-Redfiona99-20250316215300-Could_someone_look_something_up_for_me_in_the_Wikipedia_Library?"],"text":"Could someone look something up for me in the Wikipedia Library?","linkableTitle":"Could someone look something up for me in the Wikipedia Library?"}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Redfiona99-20250316215300-Could_someone_look_something_up_for_me_in_the_Wikipedia_Library?"></span>I've not got my 10 edits this month, so I can't check it myself, and the suggested IRC on that page gives me a "does not exist" error. <a href="/wiki/Ousman_Miangoto" title="Ousman Miangoto">Ousman Miangoto</a> has been suggested for deletion and I thought I'd have a look for any potential sources, especially as he appears to have been a flag-bearer. Using the google books search, I get a hit for this "N'Djaména hebdo, Issues 7–68, 1989" but it's behind a paywall. Is there anything on TWL? <a href="/wiki/User:Redfiona99" title="User:Redfiona99">Red Fiona</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Redfiona99" title="User talk:Redfiona99">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Help_desk#c-Redfiona99-20250316215300-Could_someone_look_something_up_for_me_in_the_Wikipedia_Library?" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:53, 16 March 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Redfiona99-20250316215300-Could_someone_look_something_up_for_me_in_the_Wikipedia_Library?"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250316215300","author":"Redfiona99","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Redfiona99-20250316215300-Could_someone_look_something_up_for_me_in_the_Wikipedia_Library?","replies":["c-Pppery-20250316223900-Redfiona99-20250316215300","c-TSventon-20250316224300-Redfiona99-20250316215300"],"displayName":"Red Fiona"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Redfiona99-20250316215300-Could_someone_look_something_up_for_me_in_the_Wikipedia_Library?"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Pppery-20250316223900-Redfiona99-20250316215300"></span>You have to make literally one more edit to hit the threshold ... that's probably easier than asking others to dig for sources. <a href="/wiki/User:Pppery" title="User:Pppery">* Pppery *</a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Pppery" title="User talk:Pppery"><sub style="color:#800000">it has begun...</sub></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Help_desk#c-Pppery-20250316223900-Redfiona99-20250316215300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:39, 16 March 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Pppery-20250316223900-Redfiona99-20250316215300"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250316223900","author":"Pppery","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Pppery-20250316223900-Redfiona99-20250316215300","replies":["c-Redfiona99-20250316225200-Pppery-20250316223900"],"displayName":"* Pppery *"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Pppery-20250316223900-Redfiona99-20250316215300"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Redfiona99-20250316225200-Pppery-20250316223900"></span>Very good point - I think when I posted this I was further away and didn't think I'd be making so many edits tonight. (My apologies) <a href="/wiki/User:Redfiona99" title="User:Redfiona99">Red Fiona</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Redfiona99" title="User talk:Redfiona99">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Help_desk#c-Redfiona99-20250316225200-Pppery-20250316223900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:52, 16 March 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Redfiona99-20250316225200-Pppery-20250316223900"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250316225200","author":"Redfiona99","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Redfiona99-20250316225200-Pppery-20250316223900","replies":[],"displayName":"Red Fiona"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Redfiona99-20250316225200-Pppery-20250316223900"></span></dd></dl></dd> <dd><small><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-TSventon-20250316224300-Redfiona99-20250316215300"></span>(<a href="/wiki/Help:Edit_conflict" title="Help:Edit conflict">edit conflict</a>)</small> Apparently Newspapers.com has 113 matches for Ousmane Miangoto, but I haven't signed up. If no one here can help you could try <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Resource_Exchange/Resource_Request" title="Wikipedia:WikiProject Resource Exchange/Resource Request">Wikipedia:WikiProject Resource Exchange/Resource Request</a>. N'Djaména hebdo in Google books says something like "II git de Ousmane Miangoto qui it fait équipe avec Alladoum lo , NDoubadoum Raïngar et doum ." It looks like a single sentence and the lines seem to have been truncated. <a href="/wiki/User:TSventon" title="User:TSventon">TSventon</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:TSventon" title="User talk:TSventon">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Help_desk#c-TSventon-20250316224300-Redfiona99-20250316215300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:43, 16 March 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-TSventon-20250316224300-Redfiona99-20250316215300"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250316224300","author":"TSventon","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-TSventon-20250316224300-Redfiona99-20250316215300","replies":["c-Redfiona99-20250316225200-TSventon-20250316224300"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-TSventon-20250316224300-Redfiona99-20250316215300"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Redfiona99-20250316225200-TSventon-20250316224300"></span>Thanks for the Resource Request link. <a href="/wiki/User:Redfiona99" title="User:Redfiona99">Red Fiona</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Redfiona99" title="User talk:Redfiona99">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Help_desk#c-Redfiona99-20250316225200-TSventon-20250316224300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:52, 16 March 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Redfiona99-20250316225200-TSventon-20250316224300"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250316225200","author":"Redfiona99","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Redfiona99-20250316225200-TSventon-20250316224300","replies":[],"displayName":"Red Fiona"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Redfiona99-20250316225200-TSventon-20250316224300"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Bob1960evens-20250316234600","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Linking_to_visible_anchors-March_16-20250316234600","replies":["c-Bob1960evens-20250316234600-Linking_to_visible_anchors"],"text":"Linking to visible anchors","linkableTitle":"Linking to visible anchors"}--><h2 id="Linking_to_visible_anchors" data-mw-thread-id="h-Linking_to_visible_anchors-March_16-20250316234600"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Linking_to_visible_anchors-March_16-20250316234600"></span>Linking to visible anchors<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Linking_to_visible_anchors-March_16-20250316234600"></span></h2><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Bob1960evens-20250316234600","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Linking_to_visible_anchors-March_16-20250316234600","replies":["c-Bob1960evens-20250316234600-Linking_to_visible_anchors"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-Shushugah-20250316235000-Bob1960evens-20250316234600","timestamp":"20250316235000"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__2__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__2__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Bob1960evens-20250316234600","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Linking_to_visible_anchors-March_16-20250316234600","replies":["c-Bob1960evens-20250316234600-Linking_to_visible_anchors"],"text":"Linking to visible anchors","linkableTitle":"Linking to visible anchors"}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Bob1960evens-20250316234600-Linking_to_visible_anchors"></span>I have been adding visible anchors to the <a href="/wiki/Swinefleet_Warping_Drain" title="Swinefleet Warping Drain">Swinefleet Warping Drain</a> article for the Acts of Parliament obtained to carry out work on the drain. So on <a href="/wiki/List_of_acts_of_the_Parliament_of_Great_Britain_from_1793" title="List of acts of the Parliament of Great Britain from 1793">List of acts of the Parliament of Great Britain from 1793</a> there is an entry for <a href="/wiki/Whitgift,_Yorkshire_(Drainage)_Act_1793" class="mw-redirect" title="Whitgift, Yorkshire (Drainage) Act 1793">Whitgift, Yorkshire (Drainage) Act 1793</a> which links to a <Whitgift, Yorkshire (Drainage) Act 1793> redirect page, containing #REDIRECT [[Swinefleet Warping Drain#Whitgift, Yorkshire (Drainage) Act 1793]]. I can click on the entry in the List page, and it jumps to the visible anchor in the Swinefleet Warping Drain article. However, if I click on the Redirect page, the anchor in the article is highlighted with a blue background, but if I click on the List page, the highlighting does not appear. Is this how it is supposed to work, and is there any way to get the highlighting to appear in both cases? Thanks. <a href="/wiki/User:Bob1960evens" title="User:Bob1960evens">Bob1960evens</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Bob1960evens" title="User talk:Bob1960evens">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Help_desk#c-Bob1960evens-20250316234600-Linking_to_visible_anchors" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:46, 16 March 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Bob1960evens-20250316234600-Linking_to_visible_anchors"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250316234600","author":"Bob1960evens","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Bob1960evens-20250316234600-Linking_to_visible_anchors","replies":["c-Shushugah-20250316235000-Bob1960evens-20250316234600"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Bob1960evens-20250316234600-Linking_to_visible_anchors"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Shushugah-20250316235000-Bob1960evens-20250316234600"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:Bob1960evens" title="User:Bob1960evens">Bob1960evens</a> I don't quite understand what blue background you're referring to, but your usage of redirects is correct here. ~ 🦝 <a href="/wiki/User:Shushugah" title="User:Shushugah">Shushugah</a> (he/him • <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Shushugah" title="User talk:Shushugah">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Help_desk#c-Shushugah-20250316235000-Bob1960evens-20250316234600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:50, 16 March 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Shushugah-20250316235000-Bob1960evens-20250316234600"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250316235000","author":"Shushugah","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Shushugah-20250316235000-Bob1960evens-20250316234600","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Shushugah-20250316235000-Bob1960evens-20250316234600"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading1"><h1 id="March_17" data-mw-thread-id="h-March_17-20250317002300"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-March_17-20250317002300"></span>March 17<span data-mw-comment-end="h-March_17-20250317002300"></span></h1></div> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-SMargan-20250317002300","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Legal_Citation-March_17-20250317002300","replies":["c-SMargan-20250317002300-Legal_Citation"],"text":"Legal Citation","linkableTitle":"Legal Citation"}--><h2 id="Legal_Citation" data-mw-thread-id="h-Legal_Citation-March_17-20250317002300"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Legal_Citation-March_17-20250317002300"></span>Legal Citation<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Legal_Citation-March_17-20250317002300"></span></h2><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-SMargan-20250317002300","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Legal_Citation-March_17-20250317002300","replies":["c-SMargan-20250317002300-Legal_Citation"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-Musiconeologist-20250317012600-Musiconeologist-20250317011500","timestamp":"20250317012600"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__3__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__2__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-SMargan-20250317002300","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Legal_Citation-March_17-20250317002300","replies":["c-SMargan-20250317002300-Legal_Citation"],"text":"Legal Citation","linkableTitle":"Legal Citation"}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-SMargan-20250317002300-Legal_Citation"></span>I am making reference to a law in Australia. I have the details of the legislation (a repealed act) and the link for the act in Austlii <a rel="nofollow" class="external autonumber" href="http://portsea.austlii.edu.au/cgi-pit/renderFrag.py?frag=/home/www/pit/xml/sa/act/1jsscsp17c2b0.xml&date=20110930">[1]</a>. I am currently using the 'web cite' for creating an 'inline citation' to evidence this law. However, I was wondering whether there is a specific 'cite' for legislation in general that I am unaware of, or perhaps a specific legislation coding element / tag in Wikipedia. Thanks in advance for the time taken to deal with this. <a href="/wiki/User:SMargan" title="User:SMargan">SMargan</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:SMargan" title="User talk:SMargan">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Help_desk#c-SMargan-20250317002300-Legal_Citation" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:23, 17 March 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-SMargan-20250317002300-Legal_Citation"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250317002300","author":"SMargan","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-SMargan-20250317002300-Legal_Citation","replies":["c-Musiconeologist-20250317011500-SMargan-20250317002300"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-SMargan-20250317002300-Legal_Citation"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Musiconeologist-20250317011500-SMargan-20250317002300"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:SMargan" title="User:SMargan">SMargan</a> I think you want <span class="nowrap">{{</span><a href="/wiki/Template:Cite_Legislation_AU" title="Template:Cite Legislation AU">Cite Legislation AU</a><span class="nowrap">}}</span> for Australia. I found it by searching for <i>template:cite law</i>—I suggest trying that search yourself and seeing what's there. <a href="/wiki/User:Musiconeologist" title="User:Musiconeologist">Musiconeologist</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Musiconeologist" title="User talk:Musiconeologist">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Help_desk#c-Musiconeologist-20250317011500-SMargan-20250317002300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">01:15, 17 March 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Musiconeologist-20250317011500-SMargan-20250317002300"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250317011500","author":"Musiconeologist","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Musiconeologist-20250317011500-SMargan-20250317002300","replies":["c-Musiconeologist-20250317012600-Musiconeologist-20250317011500"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Musiconeologist-20250317011500-SMargan-20250317002300"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Musiconeologist-20250317012600-Musiconeologist-20250317011500"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:SMargan" title="User:SMargan">SMargan</a> The general one seems to be <span class="nowrap">{{</span><a href="/wiki/Template:Cite_act" title="Template:Cite act">Cite act</a><span class="nowrap">}}</span>. But there are huge numbers of national ones, by the look of it. <a href="/wiki/User:Musiconeologist" title="User:Musiconeologist">Musiconeologist</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Musiconeologist" title="User talk:Musiconeologist">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Help_desk#c-Musiconeologist-20250317012600-Musiconeologist-20250317011500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">01:26, 17 March 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Musiconeologist-20250317012600-Musiconeologist-20250317011500"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250317012600","author":"Musiconeologist","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Musiconeologist-20250317012600-Musiconeologist-20250317011500","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Musiconeologist-20250317012600-Musiconeologist-20250317011500"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <!-- NewPP limit report Parsed by mw‐api‐ext.codfw.main‐fcfd595c7‐b944f Cached time: 20250317014214 Cache expiry: 80281 Reduced expiry: true Complications: [vary‐revision‐sha1, show‐toc] DiscussionTools time usage: 0.052 seconds CPU time usage: 0.301 seconds Real time usage: 0.452 seconds Preprocessor visited node count: 1405/1000000 Post‐expand include size: 47308/2097152 bytes Template argument size: 3552/2097152 bytes Highest expansion depth: 13/100 Expensive parser function count: 5/500 Unstrip recursion depth: 0/20 Unstrip post‐expand size: 17677/5000000 bytes Lua time usage: 0.081/10.000 seconds Lua memory usage: 2819570/52428800 bytes Number of Wikibase entities loaded: 0/400 --> <!-- Transclusion expansion time report (%,ms,calls,template) 100.00% 227.656 1 -total 56.87% 129.459 1 Wikipedia:Help_desk/Header 24.66% 56.146 1 Template:Wikipedia_help_pages 17.94% 40.843 1 Template:Short_description 13.69% 31.171 1 Template:Skip_to_bottom 12.89% 29.337 1 Template:Shortcut 12.60% 28.684 1 Template:Pagetype 10.34% 23.538 2 Template:Flatlist 9.21% 20.970 1 Template:Pp-sock 5.22% 11.878 13 Template:Ping --> <!-- Saved in parser cache with key enwiki:pcache:564696:|#|:idhash:canonical and timestamp 20250317014213 and revision id 1280897273. 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