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This page is not one of <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Policies_and_guidelines" title="Wikipedia:Policies and guidelines">Wikipedia's policies or guidelines</a> as it has not been <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Consensus#Levels_of_consensus" title="Wikipedia:Consensus">thoroughly vetted by the community</a>.</div></div></td><td class="mbox-imageright"><style data-mw-deduplicate="TemplateStyles:r1252059228">.mw-parser-output .module-shortcutboxplain{float:right;margin:0 0 0 1em;border:1px solid var(--border-color-base,#a2a9b1);background-color:var(--background-color-base,#fff);padding:0.3em 0.6em 0.2em 0.6em;text-align:center;font-size:85%}.mw-parser-output .module-shortcutboxleft{float:left;margin:0 1em 0 0}.mw-parser-output .module-shortcutlist{display:inline-block;border-bottom:1px solid var(--border-color-base,#a2a9b1);margin-bottom:0.2em}.mw-parser-output .module-shortcutboxplain ul{font-weight:bold}.mw-parser-output .module-shortcutanchordiv{position:relative;top:-3em}.mw-parser-output li 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href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=MOS:IDINFO&redirect=no">MOS:IDINFO</a></span></li></ul></div></div></td></tr></tbody></table><div class="shortdescription nomobile noexcerpt noprint searchaux" style="display:none">Explanatory essay about Wikipedia:Manual of Style</div> <p>This is a collection of information on Wikipedia's <a href="/wiki/Gender_identity" title="Gender identity">gender identity</a> guidelines, including a table of community discussions and certain best practices for further discussion. </p> <div id="toc" class="toc" role="navigation" aria-labelledby="mw-toc-heading"><input type="checkbox" role="button" id="toctogglecheckbox" class="toctogglecheckbox" style="display:none"><div class="toctitle" lang="en" dir="ltr"><h2 id="mw-toc-heading">Contents</h2><span class="toctogglespan"><label class="toctogglelabel" for="toctogglecheckbox"></label></span></div> <ul> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-1"><a href="#Current_guideline"><span class="tocnumber">1</span> <span class="toctext">Current guideline</span></a> <ul> <li class="toclevel-2"><a href="#Neopronouns_and_the_singular_they"><span class="tocnumber">1.1</span> <span class="toctext">Neopronouns and the singular <i>they</i></span></a></li> </ul> </li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-2"><a href="#Best_practices"><span class="tocnumber">2</span> <span class="toctext">Best practices</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-3"><a href="#Essays"><span class="tocnumber">3</span> <span class="toctext">Essays</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-4"><a href="#Discussion_timeline"><span class="tocnumber">4</span> <span class="toctext">Discussion timeline</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-5"><a href="#Other_style_guides"><span class="tocnumber">5</span> <span class="toctext">Other style guides</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-6"><a href="#Notes"><span class="tocnumber">6</span> <span class="toctext">Notes</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-7"><a href="#See_also"><span class="tocnumber">7</span> <span class="toctext">See also</span></a></li> </ul> </div> </section><div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section section-heading" onclick="mfTempOpenSection(1)"><span class="indicator mf-icon mf-icon-expand mf-icon--small"></span><h2 id="Current_guideline" data-mw-thread-id="h-Current_guideline"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Current_guideline"></span>Current guideline<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Current_guideline"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"> <a role="button" href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Manual_of_Style/Gender_identity&action=edit&section=1" title="Edit section: Current guideline" class="cdx-button cdx-button--size-large cdx-button--fake-button cdx-button--fake-button--enabled cdx-button--icon-only cdx-button--weight-quiet "> <span class="minerva-icon minerva-icon--edit"></span> <span>edit</span> </a> </span> </div><section class="mf-section-1 collapsible-block" id="mf-section-1"> <style data-mw-deduplicate="TemplateStyles:r1236090951">.mw-parser-output .hatnote{font-style:italic}.mw-parser-output div.hatnote{padding-left:1.6em;margin-bottom:0.5em}.mw-parser-output .hatnote i{font-style:normal}.mw-parser-output .hatnote+link+.hatnote{margin-top:-0.5em}@media print{body.ns-0 .mw-parser-output .hatnote{display:none!important}}</style><div role="note" class="hatnote navigation-not-searchable relarticle mainarticle selfreference noprint">This section is <a href="/wiki/Help:Transclusion" title="Help:Transclusion">transcluded</a> from <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Manual_of_Style/Biography" title="Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Biography">Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Biography</a>. <span class="plainlinks" style="font-style: normal; font-size:85%;">(<a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Manual_of_Style/Biography&action=edit">edit</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Manual_of_Style/Biography&action=history">history</a>)</span></div> <p><span class="anchor" id="DEADNAME"></span><span class="anchor" id="GENDERID"></span> </p> <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1236090951"><div role="note" class="hatnote navigation-not-searchable">Further information: <a class="mw-selflink selflink">WP:Manual of Style/Gender identity</a></div> <p>Refer to any person whose gender might be questioned with the name and gendered words (e.g. pronouns, <i>man</i>/<i>woman</i>/<i>person</i>) that reflect the person's <em>most recent</em> expressed self-identification as reported in the most recent <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Reliable_sources" title="Wikipedia:Reliable sources">reliable sources</a>, even if it does not match what is most common in sources. Do not use gendered noun forms (e.g. <i>mailman</i>, <i>waitress</i>) that do not match the most recent self-identification. This holds for any phase of the person's life, unless they have indicated a preference otherwise. </p><p>If a living <a href="/wiki/Transgender" title="Transgender">transgender</a> or <a href="/wiki/Non-binary" class="mw-redirect" title="Non-binary">non-binary</a> person was not <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Notability#General_notability_guideline" title="Wikipedia:Notability">notable</a> under a former name (a <a href="/wiki/Deadnaming" title="Deadnaming">deadname</a>), it should not be included in any page (including lists, redirects, disambiguation pages, category names, templates, etc.), even in quotations, <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:NOT#INDISCRIMINATE" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:NOT">even if</a> reliable sourcing exists. Treat the pre-notability name as <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:BLPPRIVACY" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:BLPPRIVACY">a privacy interest</a>, as in these examples: </p> <ul><li><i>From <a href="/wiki/Laverne_Cox" title="Laverne Cox">Laverne Cox</a>:</i> <dl><dd><span class="example" style="font-family: Georgia, 'DejaVu Serif', serif; color: var(--color-content-added, #006400);"><b>Laverne Cox</b> (born May 29, 1972) ...</span></dd></dl></li> <li><i>From <a href="/wiki/Rachel_Levine" title="Rachel Levine">Rachel Levine</a>:</i> <dl><dd><span class="example" style="font-family: Georgia, 'DejaVu Serif', serif; color: var(--color-content-added, #006400);"><b>Rachel Leland Levine</b> (<span class="rt-commentedText nowrap"><span class="IPA nopopups noexcerpt" lang="en-fonipa"><a href="/wiki/Help:IPA/English" title="Help:IPA/English">/<span style="border-bottom:1px dotted"><span title="'l' in 'lie'">l</span><span title="/ə/: 'a' in 'about'">ə</span><span title="/ˈ/: primary stress follows">ˈ</span><span title="'v' in 'vie'">v</span><span title="/iː/: 'ee' in 'fleece'">iː</span><span title="'n' in 'nigh'">n</span></span>/</a></span></span>; born October 28, 1957) ...</span></dd></dl></li> <li><i>Avoid phrasing like this:</i> <dl><dd><span class="example deprecated-content example-bad" style="font-family: Georgia, 'DejaVu Serif', serif; color: var(--color-content-removed, #8B0000);"><b>Jane Smith</b> (formerly <b>John Hammer</b>, born May 1, 1980) ...</span></dd></dl></li></ul> <p>In the case of a living transgender or non-binary person, their birth name or former name (professional name, stage name, or pseudonym) should be included in the lead sentence of their main biographical article <i>only if they were notable under that name</i>. Introduce the prior name with either "born" or "formerly". For example: </p> <ul><li><i>From <a href="/wiki/Chelsea_Manning" title="Chelsea Manning">Chelsea Manning</a>, notable under birth name:</i> <dl><dd><span class="example" style="font-family: Georgia, 'DejaVu Serif', serif; color: var(--color-content-added, #006400);"><b>Chelsea Elizabeth Manning</b> (born <b>Bradley Edward Manning</b>, December 17, 1987) ...</span></dd></dl></li> <li><i>From <a href="/wiki/Elliot_Page" title="Elliot Page">Elliot Page</a>, notable under former professional name:</i> <dl><dd><span class="example" style="font-family: Georgia, 'DejaVu Serif', serif; color: var(--color-content-added, #006400);"><b>Elliot Page</b> (formerly <b>Ellen Page</b>; born February 21, 1987) ...</span></dd></dl></li></ul> <p>Outside the main biographical article, generally do not discuss in detail the changes of a person's name or gender presentation unless pertinent. Where a person's gender <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:SURPRISE" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:SURPRISE">may come as a surprise</a>, explain it on first occurrence, <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:UNDUE" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:UNDUE">without overemphasis</a>. Avoid confusing constructions (<span class="example deprecated-content example-bad" style="font-family: Georgia, 'DejaVu Serif', serif; color: var(--color-content-removed, #8B0000);">Jane Doe fathered a child</span>) by rewriting (e.g., <span class="example" style="font-family: Georgia, 'DejaVu Serif', serif; color: var(--color-content-added, #006400);">Jane Doe became a parent</span>). In articles on works or other activity by a living trans or non-binary person before transition, use their current name as the primary name (in prose, tables, lists, infoboxes, etc.), unless they prefer their former name be used for past events. If they were notable under the name by which they were credited for the work or other activity, provide it in a parenthetical or footnote on first reference; add more parentheticals or footnotes only if needed to avoid confusion. </p><p>Paraphrase, elide, or use square brackets to replace portions of quotations to avoid <a href="/wiki/Deadnaming" title="Deadnaming">deadnaming</a> or <a href="/wiki/Misgendering" class="mw-redirect" title="Misgendering">misgendering</a>, except in rare cases where exact wording cannot be avoided, as where there is a pun on the notable former name, etc. </p> <ul><li><span class="example deprecated-content example-bad" style="font-family: Georgia, 'DejaVu Serif', serif; color: var(--color-content-removed, #8B0000);">Critic X said "<i>Juno</i> needs a fine [actor] to play its pregnant teenage star, and [Elliot] Page has shown [himself] to be the perfect [man] for the job."</span> involves many bracketed changes, so is better paraphrased: <span class="example" style="font-family: Georgia, 'DejaVu Serif', serif; color: var(--color-content-added, #006400);">Critic X argued that portraying the pregnant teenage lead in the film <i>Juno</i> required a fine acting talent, and said that Page had proved perfect for the job.</span></li></ul> <p>In source citations, do not remove names of authors, or references to former names in titles of works. If the author is notable, the current name may be given, for example as "<span class="example" style="font-family: Georgia, 'DejaVu Serif', serif; color: var(--color-content-added, #006400);">X (writing as Y)</span>". Do not replace or supplement a person's former name with a current name if the two names have not been publicly connected and connecting them would <a href="/wiki/Outing" title="Outing">out</a> the person. </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading3"><h3 id="Neopronouns_and_the_singular_they" data-mw-thread-id="h-Neopronouns_and_the_singular_they-Current_guideline"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Neopronouns_and_the_singular_they-Current_guideline"></span>Neopronouns and the singular <i>they</i><span data-mw-comment-end="h-Neopronouns_and_the_singular_they-Current_guideline"></span></h3><span class="mw-editsection"> <a role="button" href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Manual_of_Style/Biography&action=edit&section=T-1" title="Edit section: Neopronouns and the singular they" class="cdx-button cdx-button--size-large cdx-button--fake-button cdx-button--fake-button--enabled cdx-button--icon-only cdx-button--weight-quiet "> <span class="minerva-icon minerva-icon--edit"></span> <span>edit</span> </a> </span> </div> <p><a href="/wiki/Singular_they" title="Singular they">Singular <i>they/them/their</i></a> pronouns are appropriate to use in reference to any person who goes by them. If a person exclusively goes by <a href="/wiki/Neopronouns" class="mw-redirect" title="Neopronouns">neopronouns</a>, such as <i>ze/hir</i>, then singular <i>they</i> should also generally be used instead of neopronouns when referring to that individual, though their neopronouns should usually be mentioned in their biography (in the main prose or in a footnote).<sup id="cite_ref-1" class="reference"><a href="#cite_note-1"><span class="cite-bracket">[</span>a<span class="cite-bracket">]</span></a></sup> </p> </section><div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section section-heading" onclick="mfTempOpenSection(2)"><span class="indicator mf-icon mf-icon-expand mf-icon--small"></span><h2 id="Best_practices" data-mw-thread-id="h-Best_practices"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Best_practices"></span>Best practices<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Best_practices"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"> <a role="button" href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Manual_of_Style/Gender_identity&action=edit&section=2" title="Edit section: Best practices" class="cdx-button cdx-button--size-large cdx-button--fake-button cdx-button--fake-button--enabled cdx-button--icon-only cdx-button--weight-quiet "> <span class="minerva-icon minerva-icon--edit"></span> <span>edit</span> </a> </span> </div><section class="mf-section-2 collapsible-block" id="mf-section-2"> <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1236090951"><div role="note" class="hatnote navigation-not-searchable">These best practices should not be taken as thoroughly vetted by the community nor representing consensus.</div> <ul><li><b>Former name</b> – <ul><li>Before including a transgender subject's former name inline, consider including it <b>as a footnote</b> instead. In the article about <i><a href="/wiki/The_Matrix" title="The Matrix">The Matrix</a></i> the writers/directors are credited as <i>the Wachowskis</i> with a footnote adding that they were originally credited as <i>The Wachowski Brothers</i>.</li> <li>If a transgender subject's former or legal name is <b>not well known</b> or widely reported, don't include it, even if it appears in a few reliable sources.</li></ul></li> <li><b>Photo</b> – Avoid using an out-of-date, <a href="/wiki/Coming_out" title="Coming out">pre-coming-out</a> photo of a transgender subject as a lead image. If no other photos are available, it is generally better to have no lead image at all. In general, avoid using pre-coming-out photos unless the subject's <a href="/wiki/Transitioning_(transgender)" class="mw-redirect" title="Transitioning (transgender)">pre-transition</a> appearance is especially well-known and notable. The article about <a href="/wiki/Laverne_Cox" title="Laverne Cox">Laverne Cox</a>, for example, is better without any pre-coming-out photos since the way she looked pre-transition is not well known. Conversely, the <a href="/wiki/Caitlyn_Jenner" title="Caitlyn Jenner">Caitlyn Jenner</a> article does contain photos from before her transition because she was a well known Olympic athlete, so her appearance at the time is relevant to the article, though none are in the lead section.</li> <li><b>Pronouns</b> – <ul><li>If consensus cannot be reached over which pronouns to use for a subject, rewriting to <a href="/wiki/Category:Articles_tagged_for_avoiding_gendered_pronoun_usage" title="Category:Articles tagged for avoiding gendered pronoun usage"><b>avoid pronouns altogether</b></a> may be considered. Writing without using pronouns requires extra time and care to ensure the text reads smoothly and to avoid awkwardness or confusion. See the link for examples.</li> <li>Some editors favor the <b>use of <a href="/wiki/Singular_they" title="Singular they">singular <i>they</i></a></b> in cases where gender identity is in question and no pronoun preference has been declared by the biographical subject. Other editors do not. <i>They/them</i> pronouns are always acceptable in article space for subjects who have stated that they prefer them. Use of singular <i>they</i> may be more difficult for <a href="/wiki/ESL" class="mw-redirect" title="ESL">readers whose first language is not English</a>, especially in articles where more than one person is mentioned.</li></ul></li> <li><b><i>Use</i> vs. <i>mention</i></b> – When choosing how to refer to a transgender subject, consider the <a href="/wiki/Use%E2%80%93mention_distinction" title="Use–mention distinction">use–mention distinction</a>.<sup class="noprint Inline-Template" style="white-space:nowrap;">[<i><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Manual_of_Style#Technical_language" title="Wikipedia:Manual of Style"><span title="Worthwhile as it may be, this may be too technical for most readers and confuse rather than aid. If kept, it should be clarified, perhaps showing how 'mention' can be tested by mentally adding the expression 'the name' in front of their name; if it doesn't change the sense, that is a 'mention', and if it does or is ungrammatical, that is a 'use'. (October 2024)">jargon</span></a></i>]</sup> Before <i>using</i> a transgender person's former or legal name, consider only <i>mentioning</i> it instead. And before mentioning it, consider not including it at all. For example, the article <i><a href="/wiki/Switched-On_Bach" title="Switched-On Bach">Switched-On Bach</a></i> <i>mentions</i> but doesn't <i>use</i> Wendy Carlos's former name: <span class="example" style="font-family: Georgia, 'DejaVu Serif', serif; color: var(--color-content-added, #006400);">"<i>Switched-On Bach</i> is the first studio album by the American composer Wendy Carlos, released under her birth name Walter Carlos"</span>.</li></ul> </section><div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section section-heading" onclick="mfTempOpenSection(3)"><span class="indicator mf-icon mf-icon-expand mf-icon--small"></span><h2 id="Essays" data-mw-thread-id="h-Essays"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Essays"></span>Essays<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Essays"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"> <a role="button" href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Manual_of_Style/Gender_identity&action=edit&section=3" title="Edit section: Essays" class="cdx-button cdx-button--size-large cdx-button--fake-button cdx-button--fake-button--enabled cdx-button--icon-only cdx-button--weight-quiet "> <span class="minerva-icon minerva-icon--edit"></span> <span>edit</span> </a> </span> </div><section class="mf-section-3 collapsible-block" id="mf-section-3"> <ul><li><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Gender_identity" title="Wikipedia:Gender identity">Wikipedia:Gender identity</a></li> <li><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_LGBTQ%2B_studies/Guidelines#How_to_write_about_transgender_and_non-binary_people" title="Wikipedia:WikiProject LGBTQ+ studies/Guidelines">Wikipedia:WikiProject LGBTQ+ studies/Guidelines § How to write about transgender and non-binary people</a></li></ul> </section><div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section section-heading" onclick="mfTempOpenSection(4)"><span class="indicator mf-icon mf-icon-expand mf-icon--small"></span><h2 id="Discussion_timeline" data-mw-thread-id="h-Discussion_timeline"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Discussion_timeline"></span>Discussion timeline<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Discussion_timeline"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"> <a role="button" href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Manual_of_Style/Gender_identity&action=edit&section=4" title="Edit section: Discussion timeline" class="cdx-button cdx-button--size-large cdx-button--fake-button cdx-button--fake-button--enabled cdx-button--icon-only cdx-button--weight-quiet "> <span class="minerva-icon minerva-icon--edit"></span> <span>edit</span> </a> </span> </div><section class="mf-section-4 collapsible-block" id="mf-section-4"> <p>A central table of community discussions on gender identity from throughout Wikipedia. For anyone interested in discussing or changing our gender identity guidelines, it's helpful to become familiar with prior discussions on the topic. The <i>Sitewide forum</i> column indicates when a discussion was done via a sitewide-consensus forum. Either the forum's acronym is entered, or it is left blank when it is a local consensus. </p> <table class="wikitable sortable"> <tbody><tr> <th>Date</th> <th>Sitewide forum</th> <th>Section</th> <th>Page</th> <th>Conclusion/Notes </th></tr> <tr> <td><span data-sort-value="000000002004-06-01-0000" style="white-space:nowrap">Jun 2004</span></td> <td></td> <td><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Manual_of_Style/Biography/Archive_3#Trans_people_and_pronouns" title="Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style/Biography/Archive 3">Trans people and pronouns</a></td> <td>Manual of Style/Biography</td> <td>The use of pronouns on the article <a href="/wiki/Patrick_Califia" title="Patrick Califia">Patrick Califia</a> was discussed, but not concluded. The main propositions were to use only masculine pronouns or feminine pronouns when referring to time before Patrick's transition and masculine after. Discussion was primarily about clarity for the reader e.g.: alignment with Patrick's presentation and the (then) recency of his transition. Patrick's identity was also discussed in terms of how it might make Patrick feel (who was contacted but didn't seem to reply) and respect for his current identity. </td></tr> <tr> <td><span data-sort-value="000000002006-01-01-0000" style="white-space:nowrap">Jan 2006</span></td> <td></td> <td><span class="plainlinks"><a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=&diff=prev&oldid=34507095">Identity</a></span></td> <td>Manual of Style</td> <td>First instance of gender identity guidance, which was added without any discussion. Original wording: <style data-mw-deduplicate="TemplateStyles:r1248585704">@media screen{html.skin-theme-clientpref-night .mw-parser-output .inline-quote-talk{color:#00B785}}@media screen and (prefers-color-scheme:dark){html.skin-theme-clientpref-os .mw-parser-output .inline-quote-talk{color:#00B785}}.mw-parser-output .inline-quote-talk{font-family:Georgia,"DejaVu Serif",serif;color:#008560;quotes:none}.mw-parser-output .inline-quote-talk-italic{font-family:inherit;font-style:italic}.mw-parser-output .inline-quote-talk-marks{quotes:"\"""\""}</style><q class="inline-quote-talk">Where known, use terminology that subjects use for themselves (<a href="/wiki/Self_identification" class="mw-redirect" title="Self identification">self identification</a>). This can mean calling an individual the term they use, or calling a group the term most widely used by that group. This includes referring to <a href="/wiki/Transgender" title="Transgender">transgender</a> individuals according to the name and pronoun they use to identify themselves.</q> </td></tr> <tr> <td><span data-sort-value="000000002007-04-01-0000" style="white-space:nowrap">Apr 2007</span></td> <td></td> <td><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Manual_of_Style/Archive_74#Transgender_pronoun_/_identity" title="Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style/Archive 74">Transgender pronoun / identity</a></td> <td>Manual of Style</td> <td>A discussion of the early IDENTITY guidance, with reference to Brandon Teena and Wendy Carlos. </td></tr> <tr> <td><span data-sort-value="000000002007-08-01-0000" style="white-space:nowrap">Aug 2007</span></td> <td></td> <td><a href="/wiki/Talk:Chevalier_d%27%C3%89on#Pronouns" class="mw-redirect" title="Talk:Chevalier d'Éon">Pronouns</a></td> <td>Chevalier d'Éon</td> <td>An early discussion of pronoun use for an historical subject whose social gender changed throughout their life. Superseded by the 2014/09 RfC. </td></tr> <tr> <td><span data-sort-value="000000002007-09-01-0000" style="white-space:nowrap">Sep 2007</span></td> <td></td> <td><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Manual_of_Style/Archive_92#Transgender_pronoun_issue" title="Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style/Archive 92">Transgender pronoun issue</a></td> <td>Manual of Style</td> <td>An early and prolonged discussion of gender identity and pronoun retroactivity. Almost immediately superseded by the changes to MOS:IDENTITY, below (2007/10) </td></tr> <tr> <td><span data-sort-value="000000002007-10-01-0000" style="white-space:nowrap">Oct 2007</span></td> <td></td> <td><span class="plainlinks"><a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=&diff=prev&oldid=163219792#Identity">New language added to MOS:IDENTITY</a></span></td> <td>Manual of Style</td> <td>More specific and expansive guidance for pronouns and names of trans people: <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1248585704"><q class="inline-quote-talk">A transgender person's latest preference of name and pronoun should be adopted when referring to any phase of that person's life, unless this usage is overridden by that person's own expressed preference as to how this should be managed.</q> This guidance was reduced in scope of application in the 2015/10 RfC, below, and restored to unrestricted application in the 2021/02 RfC. </td></tr> <tr> <td><span data-sort-value="000000002008-08-01-0000" style="white-space:nowrap">Aug 2008</span></td> <td></td> <td><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Manual_of_Style/Archive_102#Gender" title="Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style/Archive 102">Gender</a></td> <td>Manual of Style</td> <td>An editor requests a style guide for gender identity and pronouns. </td></tr> <tr> <td><span data-sort-value="000000002009-02-01-0000" style="white-space:nowrap">Feb 2009</span></td> <td></td> <td><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Manual_of_Style/Archive_108#Gender_of_gender-ambiguous_persons" title="Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style/Archive 108">Gender of gender-ambiguous persons</a></td> <td>Manual of Style</td> <td>A brief discussion of sex versus gender identity. </td></tr> <tr> <td><span data-sort-value="000000002009-06-01-0000" style="white-space:nowrap">Jun 2009</span></td> <td></td> <td><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Manual_of_Style/Archive_109#Gender_pronouns" title="Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style/Archive 109">Gender pronouns</a></td> <td>Manual of Style</td> <td>Discussion of the application of MOS:IDENTITY in the case of Chaz Bono. </td></tr> <tr> <td><span data-sort-value="000000002010-06-01-0000" style="white-space:nowrap">Jun 2010</span></td> <td></td> <td><a href="/wiki/Talk:Chelsea_Manning/Archive_1#Manning's_sexuality/gender_identity" title="Talk:Chelsea Manning/Archive 1">Manning's sexuality/gender identity</a></td> <td>Chelsea Manning</td> <td>Question of possible trans identity prior to Manning's public transition. </td></tr> <tr> <td><span data-sort-value="000000002010-09-01-0000" style="white-space:nowrap">Sep 2010</span></td> <td></td> <td><a href="/wiki/Talk:Chelsea_Manning/Archive_2#It_is_relevant_that_Manning_is_transgender" title="Talk:Chelsea Manning/Archive 2">It is relevant that Manning is transgender</a></td> <td>Chelsea Manning</td> <td>Question of possible trans identity prior to Manning's public transition. </td></tr> <tr> <td><span data-sort-value="000000002011-04-01-0000" style="white-space:nowrap">Apr 2011</span></td> <td></td> <td><a href="/wiki/Talk:Sonia_Burgess#Pronouns" title="Talk:Sonia Burgess">Pronouns</a></td> <td>Sonia Burgess</td> <td>Application of IDENTITY to a BLP subject who uses both masculine and feminine pronouns in different contexts. </td></tr> <tr> <td><span data-sort-value="000000002011-08-01-0000" style="white-space:nowrap">Aug 2011</span></td> <td></td> <td><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Manual_of_Style/Archive_125#Ren%C3%A9e_Richards,_and_Gender_Identity" title="Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style/Archive 125">Renée Richards, and Gender Identity</a></td> <td>Manual of Style</td> <td>An editor seeks guidance about preferred pronouns and retroactivity. </td></tr> <tr> <td><span data-sort-value="000000002011-12-01-0000" style="white-space:nowrap">Dec 2011</span></td> <td></td> <td><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Manual_of_Style/Archive_126#Singular_They_use_because_the_subject_prefers_to_use_gender_neutral_pronouns" title="Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style/Archive 126">Singular They use because the subject prefers to use gender neutral pronouns</a></td> <td>Manual of Style</td> <td>An early and inconclusive discussion of self-declared <i>they/them</i> pronouns. </td></tr> <tr> <td><span data-sort-value="000000002012-05-01-0000" style="white-space:nowrap">May 2012</span></td> <td></td> <td><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Village_pump_(policy)/Archive_95#Fundamental_problems_with_MOS:IDENTITY" title="Wikipedia:Village pump (policy)/Archive 95">Fundamental problems with MOS:IDENTITY</a></td> <td>Village pump</td> <td>Proposal to subordinate MOS:IDENTITY to WP:COMMONNAME; long and inconclusive discussion. </td></tr> <tr> <td><span data-sort-value="000000002012-06-01-0000" style="white-space:nowrap">Jun 2012</span></td> <td></td> <td><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Village_pump_(miscellaneous)/Archive_38#New_template_for_trans_women" title="Wikipedia:Village pump (miscellaneous)/Archive 38">New template for trans women</a></td> <td>Village pump</td> <td>Proposed templates for Trans women and Trans men BLPs. </td></tr> <tr> <td><span data-sort-value="000000002012-08-01-0000" style="white-space:nowrap">Aug 2012</span></td> <td></td> <td><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Village_pump_(policy)/Archive_98#Proposal_to_modify_MOS:IDENTITY" title="Wikipedia:Village pump (policy)/Archive 98">Proposal to modify MOS:IDENTITY</a></td> <td>Village pump</td> <td>Proposal to replace gender self-identification in BLPs with the most common treatment of the subject's gender in reliable sources. </td></tr> <tr> <td><span data-sort-value="000000002013-04-01-0000" style="white-space:nowrap">Apr 2013</span></td> <td></td> <td><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Manual_of_Style/Biography/2013_archive#Changed_names_in_the_case_of_transsexualism" title="Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style/Biography/2013 archive">Changed names in the case of transsexualism</a></td> <td>Manual of Style/Biography</td> <td>An early and unanswered attempt to raise the question of former names of trans and nonbinary people. </td></tr> <tr> <td><span data-sort-value="000000002013-08-01-0000" style="white-space:nowrap">Aug 2013</span></td> <td>RM</td> <td><a href="/wiki/Talk:Chelsea_Manning/August_2013_move_request#Requested_move" title="Talk:Chelsea Manning/August 2013 move request">Chelsea Manning move request 1</a></td> <td>Chelsea Manning</td> <td>This first RM found no consensus to move the article; this was resolved in the next RM, below (2013/10). </td></tr> <tr> <td><span data-sort-value="000000002013-10-01-0000" style="white-space:nowrap">Oct 2013</span></td> <td>RM</td> <td><a href="/wiki/Talk:Chelsea_Manning/October_2013_move_request#Move_request_2" title="Talk:Chelsea Manning/October 2013 move request">Chelsea Manning move request 2</a></td> <td>Chelsea Manning</td> <td>Chelsea Manning's page was moved from her former to her current name about a month and a half after she came out. The debate over the move received some outside media coverage. (See: the media section at the top of <a href="/wiki/Talk:Chelsea_Manning" title="Talk:Chelsea Manning">Talk:Chelsea Manning</a>.) </td></tr> <tr> <td><span data-sort-value="000000002014-09-01-0000" style="white-space:nowrap">Sep 2014</span></td> <td>RfC</td> <td><a href="/wiki/Talk:Chevalier_d%27%C3%89on#RfC:_Should_the_historic_figure_of_the_Chevalier_d'%C3%89on_be_referred_to_as_a_man_or_a_woman?" class="mw-redirect" title="Talk:Chevalier d'Éon">Should the historic figure of the Chevalier d'Éon be referred to as a man or a woman?</a></td> <td>Chevalier d'Éon</td> <td>The close found no consensus for an exception to MOS:IDENTITY, so the historical figure's female gender identity at the time of death was upheld in the article. </td></tr> <tr> <td><span data-sort-value="000000002014-10-01-0000" style="white-space:nowrap">Oct 2014</span></td> <td></td> <td><a href="/wiki/Talk:Laverne_Cox/Archive_1#Birth_Name" title="Talk:Laverne Cox/Archive 1">Birth Name</a></td> <td>Laverne Cox</td> <td> <p>This discussion raised questions concerning the sources for Cox's former name and citogenesis issues; the matter was revisited in 2017/04. </p> </td></tr> <tr> <td><span data-sort-value="000000002015-06-01-0000" style="white-space:nowrap">Jun 2015</span></td> <td>VP</td> <td><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Village_pump_(policy)/Archive_120#Problem_analogous_to_the_above_discussion" title="Wikipedia:Village pump (policy)/Archive 120">Problem analogous to the above discussion</a></td> <td>Village pump</td> <td>An attempt to clarify the Caitlyn Jenner issues by analogy. </td></tr> <tr> <td><span data-sort-value="000000002015-06-01-0000" style="white-space:nowrap">Jun 2015</span></td> <td>VP</td> <td><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Village_pump_(policy)/Archive_121#MOS:IDENTITY_clarification" title="Wikipedia:Village pump (policy)/Archive 121">MOS:IDENTITY clarification</a></td> <td>Village pump</td> <td>It was decided that in the <a href="/wiki/1976_Summer_Olympics" title="1976 Summer Olympics">1976 Summer Olympics</a> article, Caitlyn Jenner should be referred to as male rather than female. This was a partial rejection of the Manual of Style's gender identity guidelines, which, <span class="plainlinks"><a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=&oldid=665184763#Identity">at the time</a></span>, were unequivocal: <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1248585704"><q class="inline-quote-talk">Wikipedia favors self-designation [of gender identity], even when usage by reliable sources indicates otherwise. Any person whose gender might be questioned should be referred to by the pronouns, possessive adjectives, and gendered nouns (for example "man/woman", "waiter/waitress", "chairman/chairwoman") that reflect that person's <i>latest</i> expressed gender self-identification. This applies in references to any phase of that person's life, unless the subject has indicated a preference otherwise.</q> </td></tr> <tr> <td><span data-sort-value="000000002015-06-01-0000" style="white-space:nowrap">Jun 2015</span></td> <td></td> <td><a href="/wiki/Talk:Caitlyn_Jenner/Archive_4#Birth_name_in_parenthetical" title="Talk:Caitlyn Jenner/Archive 4">Birth name in parenthetical</a></td> <td>Caitlyn Jenner</td> <td>Raised the question of whether to include the former name in the lead sentence; this question was brought to the RfC immediately below. </td></tr> <tr> <td><span data-sort-value="000000002015-07-01-0000" style="white-space:nowrap">Jul 2015</span></td> <td>VP</td> <td><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Village_pump_(policy)/Archive_120#Clarifying/updating_WP:BIRTHNAME_with_respect_to_MOS:IDENTITY" title="Wikipedia:Village pump (policy)/Archive 120">Clarifying/updating WP:BIRTHNAME with respect to MOS:IDENTITY</a></td> <td>Village pump</td> <td>It was decided that that <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Manual_of_Style/Biography#Names" title="Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Biography">Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Biography § Names</a> should be updated to say that a trans or non-binary person's former name should only be mentioned in the lead if they were notable under that name. </td></tr> <tr> <td><span data-sort-value="000000002015-08-01-0000" style="white-space:nowrap">Aug 2015</span></td> <td></td> <td><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Manual_of_Style/Archive_169#Pronoun_pref" title="Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style/Archive 169">Pronoun pref</a></td> <td>Manual of style</td> <td>An inconclusive discussion about gender fluidity and self-identification. </td></tr> <tr> <td><span data-sort-value="000000002015-09-01-0000" style="white-space:nowrap">Sep 2015</span></td> <td>RM</td> <td><a href="/wiki/Talk:Sonia_Burgess#Requested_move_15_September_2015" title="Talk:Sonia Burgess">Requested move 15 September 2015</a></td> <td>Sonia Burgess</td> <td>Requested move at a time when the subject was still alive and was using both former and chosen names. Closed with no consensus. </td></tr> <tr> <td><span data-sort-value="000000002015-09-01-0000" style="white-space:nowrap">Sep 2015</span></td> <td></td> <td><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Manual_of_Style/Archive_173#Wikipedia:Village_pump_(policy)/Archive_121#MOS:IDENTITY_clarification_close" title="Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style/Archive 173">MOS:IDENTITY clarification close</a></td> <td>Manual of Style</td> <td>Discussion of the close to the RfC listed in 2015/06 above. </td></tr> <tr> <td><span data-sort-value="000000002015-09-01-0000" style="white-space:nowrap">Sep 2015</span></td> <td></td> <td><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Manual_of_Style/Biography/2015_archive#Outing_and_Wikipedia" title="Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style/Biography/2015 archive">Outing and Wikipedia</a></td> <td>Manual of Style/Biography</td> <td>Inconclusive discussion of non-notable deadnames. </td></tr> <tr> <td><span data-sort-value="000000002015-09-01-0000" style="white-space:nowrap">Sep 2015</span></td> <td>RfC</td> <td><a href="/wiki/Talk:Caitlyn_Jenner/Archive_10#Cisgender_is_mainstream_and_germane" title="Talk:Caitlyn Jenner/Archive 10">Cisgender is mainstream and germane, Should all of the uses of <i>cisgender</i> be included in this article?</a></td> <td>Caitlyn Jenner</td> <td>Consensus that the term "cisgender" not be used without sourcing. </td></tr> <tr> <td><span data-sort-value="000000002015-09-01-0000" style="white-space:nowrap">Sep 2015</span></td> <td></td> <td><a href="/wiki/Talk:Caitlyn_Jenner/Archive_8#Wikipedia:Village_pump_(policy)/Archive_121#MOS:IDENTITY_clarification_close" title="Talk:Caitlyn Jenner/Archive 8">MOS:IDENTITY clarification close</a></td> <td>Caitlyn Jenner</td> <td>Discussion of the close to the RfC listed in 2015/06 above. </td></tr> <tr> <td><span data-sort-value="000000002015-10-01-0000" style="white-space:nowrap">Oct 2015</span></td> <td></td> <td><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Manual_of_Style/Biography/2015_archive#Preparing_two_proposals_that_would_change_transgender_policy" title="Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style/Biography/2015 archive">Preparing two proposals that would change transgender policy</a></td> <td>Manual of Style/Biography</td> <td>Discussion of proposed MOS:IDENTITY changes. </td></tr> <tr> <td><span data-sort-value="000000002015-10-01-0000" style="white-space:nowrap">Oct 2015</span></td> <td></td> <td><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Manual_of_Style/Archive_174#References_to_academic_publications_with_transgender_authors" title="Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style/Archive 174">References to academic publications with transgender authors</a></td> <td>Manual of Style</td> <td>Discussion of IDENTITY issues and author names. </td></tr> <tr> <td><span data-sort-value="000000002015-10-01-0000" style="white-space:nowrap">Oct 2015</span></td> <td></td> <td><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Village_pump_(policy)/Archive_123#Parallel_discussion_on_transgender_authors_in_citations" title="Wikipedia:Village pump (policy)/Archive 123">Parallel discussion on transgender authors in citations</a></td> <td>Village pump</td> <td>Discussion of IDENTITY issues and author names. </td></tr> <tr> <td><span data-sort-value="000000002015-10-01-0000" style="white-space:nowrap">Oct 2015</span></td> <td>VP</td> <td><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Village_pump_(policy)/Archive_124#Clarifying_MOS:IDENTITY_in_articles_in_which_transgender_individuals_are_mentioned_in_passing" title="Wikipedia:Village pump (policy)/Archive 124">Clarifying MOS:IDENTITY in articles in which transgender individuals are mentioned in passing</a></td> <td>Village pump</td> <td>A few months after Caitlyn Jenner came out, the scope of the MoS's gender identity guidance was essentially narrowed to main biographical articles. For those, editors were still advised to use the person's <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1248585704"><q class="inline-quote-talk"><i>latest</i> expressed gender self-identification</q> for <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1248585704"><q class="inline-quote-talk">any phase of that person's life</q>. But for articles where a trans person was just <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1248585704"><q class="inline-quote-talk">mentioned in passing</q>, the MoS now offered little guidance except that editors should use <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1248585704"><q class="inline-quote-talk">context</q> to determine how to refer to them. This was later overturned in the 2021/02 RfC, below. </td></tr> <tr> <td><span data-sort-value="000000002016-01-01-0000" style="white-space:nowrap">Jan 2016</span></td> <td></td> <td><a href="/wiki/Talk:The_Matrix/Archive_5#%22The_Wachowskis%22_vs_%22The_Wachowski_Brothers%22" title="Talk:The Matrix/Archive 5">"The Wachowskis" vs "The Wachowski Brothers"</a></td> <td>The Matrix</td> <td>Discussion of how to credit The Wachowskis for their previous works, leading to the RfC below (2016/05). </td></tr> <tr> <td><span data-sort-value="000000002016-03-01-0000" style="white-space:nowrap">Mar 2016</span></td> <td></td> <td><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Manual_of_Style/Archive_180#Gender_changes_and_deadnaming" title="Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style/Archive 180">Gender changes and deadnaming</a></td> <td>Manual of Style</td> <td>Inconclusive discussion of the state of MOS:DEADNAME following the 2015/10 RfC. </td></tr> <tr> <td><span data-sort-value="000000002016-05-01-0000" style="white-space:nowrap">May 2016</span></td> <td>RfC</td> <td><a href="/wiki/Talk:The_Matrix/Archive_5#RfC:_How_should_the_directors_of_this_film_be_presented_in_the_lead?" title="Talk:The Matrix/Archive 5">RfC: How should the directors of this film be presented in the lead?</a></td> <td>The Matrix</td> <td>The RfC close found policy-based consensus for "The Wachowskis". </td></tr> <tr> <td><span data-sort-value="000000002016-08-01-0000" style="white-space:nowrap">Aug 2016</span></td> <td>RfC</td> <td><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Manual_of_Style/Biography/2016_archive#RfC:_Allow_inclusion_of_former_names_in_lead_section_of_biographies_covering_transgender_and_non-binary_people" title="Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style/Biography/2016 archive">RfC: Allow inclusion of former names in lead section of biographies covering transgender and non-binary people</a></td> <td>Manual of Style/Biography</td> <td>Proposal to reverse the provisions concerning non-notable former names of Trans people established in the 2015/07 RfC. The non-administrator close found no consensus for any particular changes. </td></tr> <tr> <td><span data-sort-value="000000002016-11-01-0000" style="white-space:nowrap">Nov 2016</span></td> <td></td> <td><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Manual_of_Style/Archive_187#Retroactive_use_of_transgender_pronouns_in_indirect_quotations?" title="Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style/Archive 187">Retroactive use of transgender pronouns in indirect quotations?</a></td> <td>Manual of Style</td> <td>Proposed solution was to paraphrase without using gendered terms. </td></tr> <tr> <td><span data-sort-value="000000002016-12-01-0000" style="white-space:nowrap">Dec 2016</span></td> <td>RfC</td> <td><a href="/wiki/Talk:Albert_Cashier/Archive_1#RFC:_Gender" title="Talk:Albert Cashier/Archive 1">RFC: Gender</a></td> <td>Albert Cashier</td> <td>RfC found insufficient RS evidence to support the strict application of MOS:GENDERID in the case of this 19th-century individual. </td></tr> <tr> <td><span data-sort-value="000000002017-04-01-0000" style="white-space:nowrap">Apr 2017</span></td> <td></td> <td><a href="/wiki/Talk:Laverne_Cox#No_birth_name" title="Talk:Laverne Cox">No birth name</a></td> <td>Laverne Cox</td> <td>This discussion found no reliable sources for Cox's former name. </td></tr> <tr> <td><span data-sort-value="000000002017-05-01-0000" style="white-space:nowrap">May 2017</span></td> <td></td> <td><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Manual_of_Style/Archive_191#Naming_transgender_people_in_other_articles_than_their_main_biographical_article" title="Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style/Archive 191">Naming transgender people in other articles than their main biographical article</a></td> <td>Manual of Style</td> <td>A brief discussion of chosen names and former names in articles other than the primary BLP; this state of policy was set aside in 2021/02. </td></tr> <tr> <td><span data-sort-value="000000002017-05-01-0000" style="white-space:nowrap">May 2017</span></td> <td>RfC</td> <td><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Requests_for_comment/MOS:GENDERID_for_genderqueer_people" title="Wikipedia:Requests for comment/MOS:GENDERID for genderqueer people">RfC regarding MOS:GENDERID for genderqueer people</a></td> <td>Requests for comment</td> <td>A resoundingly rejected proposal that would have mandated pronounless writing rather than the singular <i>they</i> in article text concerning genderqueer and nonbinary people. </td></tr> <tr> <td><span data-sort-value="000000002018-03-01-0000" style="white-space:nowrap">Mar 2018</span></td> <td></td> <td><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Manual_of_Style/Biography/2018_archive#Applications_of_the_transgender/non-binary_birth_name_guidelines" title="Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style/Biography/2018 archive">Applications of the transgender/non-binary birth name guidelines</a></td> <td>Manual of Style/Biography</td> <td>An editor asks questions that are not firmly addressed until the 2020/08 RfC. </td></tr> <tr> <td><span data-sort-value="000000002018-03-01-0000" style="white-space:nowrap">Mar 2018</span></td> <td>RfC</td> <td><a href="/wiki/Talk:Daniel_Mallory_Ortberg#Photo" class="mw-redirect" title="Talk:Daniel Mallory Ortberg">Photo, RfC on article image</a></td> <td>Daniel Mallory Ortberg</td> <td>It was decided that it was better not to have a photo for writer <a href="/wiki/Daniel_Mallory_Ortberg" class="mw-redirect" title="Daniel Mallory Ortberg">Daniel Mallory Ortberg</a> than to have an old photo from before he was out. </td></tr> <tr> <td><span data-sort-value="000000002018-06-01-0000" style="white-space:nowrap">Jun 2018</span></td> <td>VP</td> <td><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Village_pump_(policy)/Archive_144#Guidelines_regarding_birth_names_of_trans_individuals" title="Wikipedia:Village pump (policy)/Archive 144">Guidelines regarding birth names of trans individuals</a></td> <td>Village pump</td> <td>An editor questioned the treatment of birth names of trans people; diffuse and inconclusive discussion ensued. </td></tr> <tr> <td><span data-sort-value="000000002018-07-01-0000" style="white-space:nowrap">Jul 2018</span></td> <td></td> <td><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Biographies_of_living_persons/Archive_43#The_conflict_between_deadnaming_and_ABOUTSELF,_versus_VERIFIABILTY_and_previous_RfCs" title="Wikipedia talk:Biographies of living persons/Archive 43">The conflict between deadnaming and ABOUTSELF, versus VERIFIABILITY and previous RfCs</a></td> <td>WT:BLP</td> <td>Discussed the sourcing requirements required to trigger MOS:DEADNAME provisions. </td></tr> <tr> <td><span data-sort-value="000000002018-07-01-0000" style="white-space:nowrap">Jul 2018</span></td> <td>RfC</td> <td><a href="/wiki/Talk:Albert_Cashier/Archive_2#Request_for_Comment_about_pronoun_usage" title="Talk:Albert Cashier/Archive 2">Request for Comment about pronoun usage</a></td> <td>Albert Cashier</td> <td><a href="/wiki/Albert_Cashier" title="Albert Cashier">Albert Cashier</a> was a Union soldier who was assigned female at birth and lived as a man for over 50 years. In 2016 it was decided that the article could refer to Cashier with female pronouns. But in 2018 it was decided that the article should be rewritten to avoid pronouns entirely. </td></tr> <tr> <td><span data-sort-value="000000002018-08-01-0000" style="white-space:nowrap">Aug 2018</span></td> <td>VP</td> <td><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Village_pump_(miscellaneous)/Archive_59#WP:GENDERID_advice_requested" title="Wikipedia:Village pump (miscellaneous)/Archive 59">WP:GENDERID advice requested</a></td> <td>Village pump</td> <td>Question about pronounless prose vs. singular <i>they</i>. </td></tr> <tr> <td><span data-sort-value="000000002018-09-01-0000" style="white-space:nowrap">Sep 2018</span></td> <td>RfC</td> <td><a href="/wiki/Talk:The_Wachowskis/Archive_3#More_recent_pictures" title="Talk:The Wachowskis/Archive 3">More recent pictures</a></td> <td>The Wachowskis</td> <td>It was unanimously decided that, for the <a href="/wiki/The_Wachowskis" title="The Wachowskis">The Wachowskis</a> article, it was better to not have a lead image than to have an old photo where one of the two sisters was not out. </td></tr> <tr> <td><span data-sort-value="000000002019-01-01-0000" style="white-space:nowrap">Jan 2019</span></td> <td></td> <td><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Village_pump_(policy)/Archive_149#Gender_information" title="Wikipedia:Village pump (policy)/Archive 149">Gender information</a></td> <td>Village pump</td> <td>An editor inquired about the presentation of gender information in tables, etc. The discussion was inconclusive. </td></tr> <tr> <td><span data-sort-value="000000002019-01-01-0000" style="white-space:nowrap">Jan 2019</span></td> <td>RfC</td> <td><a href="/wiki/Talk:The_Matrix_(franchise)/Archive_2#Request_for_Comment_-_Crediting_The_Wachowskis" title="Talk:The Matrix (franchise)/Archive 2">Request for Comment - Crediting the Wachowskis</a></td> <td>The Matrix (franchise)</td> <td>It was decided that <a href="/wiki/The_Wachowskis" title="The Wachowskis">Lana and Lilly Wachowski</a> should be credited as <i>The Wachowskis</i> in the leads and infoboxes of articles about films they made before they came out as women, with footnotes detailing how they were originally credited. </td></tr> <tr> <td><span data-sort-value="000000002019-02-01-0000" style="white-space:nowrap">February 2019</span></td> <td></td> <td><a href="/wiki/Talk:Rose_McGowan#Pronouns" title="Talk:Rose McGowan">Pronouns</a></td> <td>Rose McGowan</td> <td>This discussion found enough evidence that Rose McGowan continues to use gendered pronouns to meet the requirements of MOS:GENDERID. </td></tr> <tr> <td><span data-sort-value="000000002019-02-01-0000" style="white-space:nowrap">Feb 2019</span></td> <td></td> <td><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2019-02-28/Humour" title="Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/2019-02-28/Humour">The Signpost: Humour: Pesky Pronouns</a></td> <td>Wikipedia Signpost</td> <td> </td></tr> <tr> <td><span data-sort-value="000000002019-02-01-0000" style="white-space:nowrap">Feb 2019</span></td> <td>MfD</td> <td><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Miscellany_for_deletion/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2019-02-28/Humour" title="Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/2019-02-28/Humour">The Signpost: Humor deletion discussion</a></td> <td>Miscellany for deletion</td> <td> </td></tr> <tr> <td><span data-sort-value="000000002019-03-01-0000" style="white-space:nowrap">Mar 2019</span></td> <td></td> <td><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Manual_of_Style/Archive_212#MOS:GENDERID_and_death" title="Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style/Archive 212">MOS:GENDERID and death, MOS:GENDERID Suggested change</a></td> <td>Manual of Style</td> <td>Discussion of the Sonia Burgess case; the requested move was resolved below. </td></tr> <tr> <td><span data-sort-value="000000002019-03-01-0000" style="white-space:nowrap">Mar 2019</span></td> <td>RM</td> <td><a href="/wiki/Talk:Sonia_Burgess#Recent_move" title="Talk:Sonia Burgess">Recent move, Requested move 12 March 2019</a></td> <td>Sonia Burgess</td> <td>It was decided that the article on human rights lawyer <a href="/wiki/Sonia_Burgess" title="Sonia Burgess">Sonia Burgess</a> should use her female name as the title, regardless of the fact that she was still presenting as male at work when she died. </td></tr> <tr> <td><span data-sort-value="000000002019-05-01-0000" style="white-space:nowrap">May 2019</span></td> <td>RM</td> <td><a href="/wiki/Talk:Genderqueer#Requested_move_1_May_2019" class="mw-redirect" title="Talk:Genderqueer">Requested move 1 May 2019: Genderqueer → Non-binary</a></td> <td>Non-binary gender</td> <td>The fourth contentious RM discussion about whether to move the Genderqueer page. A narrow consensus was reached to move the page to <a href="/wiki/Non-binary_gender" title="Non-binary gender">Non-binary gender</a>. </td></tr> <tr> <td><span data-sort-value="000000002019-05-01-0000" style="white-space:nowrap">May 2019</span></td> <td></td> <td><a href="/wiki/Talk:STEM_School_Highlands_Ranch_shooting/Archive_1#second_alleged_perpetrator_(minor)" title="Talk:STEM School Highlands Ranch shooting/Archive 1">second alleged perpetrator (minor)</a></td> <td>STEM School Highlands Ranch shooting</td> <td>Discussion over how to refer to a suspect in a 2019 school shooting who is reported to be transgender. A consensus formed to use his chosen name, but to also mention his legal name. </td></tr> <tr> <td><span data-sort-value="000000002019-06-01-0000" style="white-space:nowrap">Jun 2019</span></td> <td>RfC</td> <td><a href="/wiki/Talk:List_of_people_with_non-binary_gender_identities/Archive_1#RFC_about_Tilda_Swinton" class="mw-redirect" title="Talk:List of people with non-binary gender identities/Archive 1">RFC about Tilda Swinton</a></td> <td>List of people with non-binary gender identities</td> <td>Tilda Swinton made comments about her gender that some people interpreted as her coming out as non-binary, but it was decided the situation was not clear-cut enough to put her name on a list of people with non-binary identities. </td></tr> <tr> <td><span data-sort-value="000000002019-07-01-0000" style="white-space:nowrap">Jul 2019</span></td> <td></td> <td><a href="/wiki/Talk:Stephanie_Hirst/Archive_1#Extended-confirmed-protected_edit_request_on_18_July_2019" title="Talk:Stephanie Hirst/Archive 1">Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 18 July 2019</a></td> <td>Stephanie Hirst</td> <td>The subject of an article requests, on the talk page, that her former name be removed from the article. </td></tr> <tr> <td><span data-sort-value="000000002019-11-01-0000" style="white-space:nowrap">Nov 2019</span></td> <td></td> <td><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Manual_of_Style/Biography/2020_archive#Including_dead_names" title="Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style/Biography/2020 archive">Including dead names</a></td> <td>Manual of Style/Biography</td> <td>A preliminary discussion on deadname guidance, featuring highly polarized arguments for including and for excluding them. </td></tr> <tr> <td><span data-sort-value="000000002020-08-01-0000" style="white-space:nowrap">Aug 2020</span></td> <td>RfC</td> <td><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Manual_of_Style/Biography/2020_archive#RfC:_To_broaden_MOS:Deadname" title="Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style/Biography/2020 archive">RFC to broaden MOS:DEADNAME</a></td> <td>Manual of Style/Biography</td> <td>This discussion extended the exclusion of non-notable former names of trans people, established in 2015/07, to the rest of article space (rather than applying to the lead sentence only). Language to implement this change in the MOS proved elusive. </td></tr> <tr> <td><span data-sort-value="000000002020-10-01-0000" style="white-space:nowrap">Oct 2020</span></td> <td>RfC</td> <td><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Manual_of_Style/Biography/2020_archive#Further_refinement_of_wording" title="Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style/Biography/2020 archive">RFC to broaden MOS:DEADNAME#Further refinement of wording</a></td> <td>Manual of Style/Biography</td> <td>This implementation discussion proved more divisive and less decisive than the RFC it was intended to implement. </td></tr> <tr> <td><span data-sort-value="000000002020-11-01-0000" style="white-space:nowrap">Nov 2020</span></td> <td>RfC</td> <td><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Manual_of_Style/Biography/2020_archive#RfC:_To_broaden_MOS:Deadname#Three_part_policy_proposal" title="Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style/Biography/2020 archive">RFC to broaden MOS:DEADNAME#Three-part policy proposal</a></td> <td>Manual of Style/Biography</td> <td>Another bootless implementation discussion concerning the same RfC. The key issue here was whether the pre-RfC language merely permitted the inclusion of notable headbands in the lead sentence, or whether this placement was required by the guideline. </td></tr> <tr> <td><span data-sort-value="000000002020-11-01-0000" style="white-space:nowrap">Nov 2020</span></td> <td>RfC</td> <td><a href="/wiki/Talk:Nicole_Maines#Request_for_Comment:_Nicole_Maines'_former_name" title="Talk:Nicole Maines">RFC on inclusion of Nicole Maines' former name</a></td> <td>Nicole Maines</td> <td>This discussion determined that, although Nicole Maines' former name has been discussed in reliable sources, it should not be included in the article per recent changes extending MOS:DEADNAME to "article space". </td></tr> <tr> <td><span data-sort-value="000000002021-01-01-0000" style="white-space:nowrap">Jan 2021</span></td> <td>RfC</td> <td><a href="/wiki/Talk:Sophie_(musician)/Archive_2#New_poll_after_death" title="Talk:Sophie (musician)/Archive 2">Birth name again#New poll after death</a></td> <td><a href="/wiki/Sophie_(musician)" title="Sophie (musician)">Sophie (musician)</a></td> <td>This revival of an RfC initially launched before Sophie's death asked about the inclusion of her deadname, either in the lead or elsewhere in the article. The interesting close found consensus against its inclusion in the lede but no consensus about its inclusion elsewhere; in the first half of 2021 the stable version of the article excluded the deadname. </td></tr> <tr> <td><span data-sort-value="000000002021-02-01-0000" style="white-space:nowrap">Feb 2021</span></td> <td>RfC</td> <td><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Manual_of_Style/Biography/2021_archive#RfC:_Changing_MOS:DEADNAME_on_how_to_credit_individuals_on_previously_released_works" title="Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style/Biography/2021 archive">RFC on how MOS:DEADNAME should handle attribution for previously released works</a></td> <td>Manual of Style/Biography</td> <td>This RfC, with wide participation, decisively overturned the 2015/06 and 2015/10 decisions about articles where transgender people are mentioned in passing. In almost all cases, the new guideline requires the person's chosen name to be presented in the body text, with the former name mentioned parenthetically or in a footnote. </td></tr> <tr> <td><span data-sort-value="000000002021-02-01-0000" style="white-space:nowrap">Feb 2021</span></td> <td>RfC</td> <td><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Manual_of_Style/Biography/2021_archive#RfC:_Use_of_deadname_in_quotes" title="Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style/Biography/2021 archive">RFC: Use of deadname in quotes</a></td> <td>Manual of Style/Biography</td> <td>This RfC ratified new guidance limiting the inclusion of deadnames in quotations and recommending paraphrase as the most widely-appropriate solution. </td></tr> <tr> <td><span data-sort-value="000000002021-03-01-0000" style="white-space:nowrap">Mar 2021</span></td> <td>RfC</td> <td><a href="/wiki/Talk:Elliot_Page/Archive_3#RfC_on_prior_names" title="Talk:Elliot Page/Archive 3">RfC on prior names</a></td> <td><a href="/wiki/Elliot_Page" title="Elliot Page">Elliot Page</a></td> <td>RfC concluded that only Page's notable former name, but not his birth name, should be included. </td></tr> <tr> <td><span data-sort-value="000000002021-03-01-0000" style="white-space:nowrap">Mar 2021</span></td> <td></td> <td><a href="/wiki/Talk:Elliot_Page#Transgender_and_nonbinary_(again)" title="Talk:Elliot Page">Transgender and nonbinary</a></td> <td>Elliot Page</td> <td>Discussion of the scope of transgender and nonbinary categories. </td></tr> <tr> <td><span data-sort-value="000000002021-06-01-0000" style="white-space:nowrap">Jun 2021</span></td> <td>RfC</td> <td><a href="/wiki/Talk:Elliot_Page/Archive_4#Request_for_comment_on_infobox_image,_if_any" title="Talk:Elliot Page/Archive 4">Request for comment on infobox image, if any</a></td> <td>Elliot Page</td> <td>RfC determined that it was better to have no infobox image at all, given the limitations of the images available post-transition. </td></tr> <tr> <td><span data-sort-value="000000002021-06-01-0000" style="white-space:nowrap">Jun 2021</span></td> <td>RfC</td> <td><a href="/wiki/Talk:James_Barry_(surgeon)/Archive_2#Request_for_comment:_Pronouns" title="Talk:James Barry (surgeon)/Archive 2">Request for comment: Pronouns</a></td> <td><a href="/wiki/James_Barry_(surgeon)" title="James Barry (surgeon)">James Barry (surgeon)</a></td> <td>Closely argued, civil discussion about pronoun usage and GENDERID. While the proposal sought to divorce the pronoun question from whether Barry was trans or not, inevitably much of the discussion centered on this point. Policy arguments were judged "equally compelling" and no consensus was found; the article continues to avoid pronouns. </td></tr> <tr> <td><span data-sort-value="000000002021-07-01-0000" style="white-space:nowrap">Jul 2021</span></td> <td></td> <td><a href="/wiki/Talk:Rachel_Levine#Notability_prior_to_transition" title="Talk:Rachel Levine">Notability prior to transition</a></td> <td>Rachel Levine</td> <td>A surprisingly civil, source-based discussion to determine whether this BLP subject met Notability standards prior to her transition. It seems not. </td></tr> <tr> <td><span data-sort-value="000000002021-08-01-0000" style="white-space:nowrap">Aug 2021</span></td> <td>RfC</td> <td><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Manual_of_Style/Biography/2021_archive#RfC_on_non-notable_pre-transition_names_of_deceased_trans_people" title="Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style/Biography/2021 archive">RfC on non-notable pre-transition names of deceased trans people</a></td> <td>Manual of Style/Biography</td> <td>No consensus to offer MOS guidance on the non-notable deadnames of deceased trans people, which therefore must be discussed in a case by case basis. </td></tr> <tr> <td><span data-sort-value="000000002022-02-01-0000" style="white-space:nowrap">Feb 2022</span></td> <td></td> <td><a href="/wiki/Talk:Paperboy_Prince#Pronouns_that_aren't" title="Talk:Paperboy Prince">Pronouns that aren't</a></td> <td>Paperboy Prince</td> <td><a href="/wiki/Neopronoun" title="Neopronoun">neopronoun</a> issue, resolved in favor of <i>they/them</i> pronouns. </td></tr> <tr> <td><span data-sort-value="000000002022-02-01-0000" style="white-space:nowrap">Feb 2022</span></td> <td>RM</td> <td><a href="/wiki/Talk:Gloria_Hemingway#Requested_move_4_February_2022" title="Talk:Gloria Hemingway">Requested move 4 February 2022</a></td> <td><a href="/wiki/Gloria_Hemingway" title="Gloria Hemingway">Gloria Hemingway</a></td> <td>Whether to move the article to the name indicated as preferred by the article's subject and change the article's pronoun usage, despite the subject being deceased and most sources, including those published after her death, using her deadname. The consensus was to move the article. </td></tr> <tr> <td><span data-sort-value="000000002022-10-01-0000" style="white-space:nowrap">Oct 2022</span></td> <td>RfC</td> <td><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Manual_of_Style/Biography/2022_archive#Neopronouns_RfC_(moved)" title="Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style/Biography/2022 archive">Neopronouns RfC (moved)</a></td> <td>Manual of Style/Biography</td> <td>Large discussion about how to address the use of neopronouns in BLPs where the subject has a stated preference for them. The vast majority of editors decided in favour of using the singular <i>they</i> while allowing for a brief mention of the subject's preferred neopronouns. </td></tr> <tr> <td><span data-sort-value="000000002023-01-01-0000" style="white-space:nowrap">Jan 2023</span></td> <td></td> <td><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Manual_of_Style/Biography/2023_archive#GENDERID_names" title="Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style/Biography/2023 archive">GENDERID names</a></td> <td>Manual of Style/Biography</td> <td> </td></tr> <tr> <td><span data-sort-value="000000002023-01-01-0000" style="white-space:nowrap">Jan 2023</span></td> <td></td> <td><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Manual_of_Style/Gender_identity#it/its_as_a_personal_pronoun" title="Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style/Gender identity">it/its as a personal pronoun</a></td> <td>Manual of Style/Gender identity</td> <td> </td></tr> <tr> <td><span data-sort-value="000000002023-03-01-0000" style="white-space:nowrap">Mar 2023</span></td> <td></td> <td><a href="/wiki/Talk:Eddie_Izzard#Requested_move_15_March_2023" title="Talk:Eddie Izzard">Requested move 15 March 2023</a></td> <td><a href="/wiki/Talk:Eddie_Izzard" title="Talk:Eddie Izzard">Suzy Izzard</a></td> <td>Not moved because of uncertainty about how to interpret her public statements or apply existing policy </td></tr> <tr> <td><span data-sort-value="000000002023-05-01-0000" style="white-space:nowrap">May 2023</span></td> <td>VP</td> <td><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Village_pump_(policy)/Archive_182#RFC:_MOS:GENDERID_and_the_deadnames_of_deceased_trans_and_nonbinary_persons" title="Wikipedia:Village pump (policy)/Archive 182">RFC: MOS:GENDERID and the deadnames of deceased trans and nonbinary persons</a></td> <td>Village pump</td> <td> </td></tr> <tr> <td><span data-sort-value="000000002023-06-01-0000" style="white-space:nowrap">June 2023</span></td> <td>VP</td> <td><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Village_pump_(policy)/Archive_185#RfC:_Proposed_addition_to_MOS:GENDERID_-_when_to_include_deadnames" title="Wikipedia:Village pump (policy)/Archive 185">RfC: Proposed addition to MOS:GENDERID - when to include deadnames</a></td> <td>Village pump</td> <td> </td></tr> <tr> <td><span data-sort-value="000000002023-08-01-0000" style="white-space:nowrap">August 2023</span></td> <td>RfC</td> <td><a href="/wiki/Talk:Isla_Bryson_case#RfC_on_the_inclusion_of_Isla_Bryson's_former_name" title="Talk:Isla Bryson case">RfC on the inclusion of Isla Bryson's former name</a></td> <td><a href="/wiki/Isla_Bryson_case" title="Isla Bryson case">Isla Bryson case</a></td> <td>Whether to include the former name of Isla Bryson's, a living transgender woman who did not meet notability standards prior to transitioning. Consensus to include in body but not to include in lede. </td></tr> <tr> <td><span data-sort-value="000000002023-08-01-0000" style="white-space:nowrap">August 2023</span></td> <td>VP</td> <td><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Village_pump_(policy)/Archive_183#Revision_deletion_and_oversight_for_deadnames" title="Wikipedia:Village pump (policy)/Archive 183">Revision deletion and oversight for deadnames</a></td> <td>Village pump</td> <td>Consensus that revision deletion and the use of oversight for deadnames is a matter of judgment and depends on the case. Additional consensus that when a deadname appears in reliable sources, the question of whether to publish it on Wikipedia is one for editorial judgment and should be based on the specific facts of the case. </td></tr> <tr> <td><span data-sort-value="000000002024-03-01-0000" style="white-space:nowrap">March 2024</span></td> <td>VP</td> <td><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Requests_for_comment/Names_of_deceased_trans_people" title="Wikipedia:Requests for comment/Names of deceased trans people">Wikipedia:Requests for comment/Names of deceased trans people</a></td> <td>Village pump</td> <td> </td></tr></tbody></table> </section><div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section section-heading" onclick="mfTempOpenSection(5)"><span class="indicator mf-icon mf-icon-expand mf-icon--small"></span><h2 id="Other_style_guides" data-mw-thread-id="h-Other_style_guides"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Other_style_guides"></span>Other style guides<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Other_style_guides"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"> <a role="button" href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Manual_of_Style/Gender_identity&action=edit&section=5" title="Edit section: Other style guides" class="cdx-button cdx-button--size-large cdx-button--fake-button cdx-button--fake-button--enabled cdx-button--icon-only cdx-button--weight-quiet "> <span class="minerva-icon minerva-icon--edit"></span> <span>edit</span> </a> </span> </div><section class="mf-section-5 collapsible-block" id="mf-section-5"> <p>The following are style guides and reference materials for writing about trans people created by other organizations. They provide useful guidance, explanations, and demonstrate best-practices. However they have not been thoroughly vetted by the Wikipedia community and their advice may not fully reflect community consensus. </p> <ul><li><a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://radicalcopyeditor.com/2017/08/31/transgender-style-guide/">The Radical Copyeditor's Style Guide for Writing About Transgender People</a></li> <li><a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://glaad.org/reference">Media Reference Guide</a> by <a href="/wiki/GLAAD" title="GLAAD">GLAAD</a></li> <li><a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://transjournalists.org/style-guide/">Style Guide</a> by the Trans Journalists Association</li> <li><a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.nlgja.org/stylebook/">Stylebook on LGBTQ+ Terminology</a> by <a href="/wiki/NLGJA" class="mw-redirect" title="NLGJA">NLGJA</a></li> <li><a rel="nofollow" class="external text" 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