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If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Psychology" title="Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Psychology">the discussion</a> and see a list of open tasks.<span class="metadata wpb-metadata"><span class="wpb-project">Psychology</span><span class="wpb-project_link">Wikipedia:WikiProject Psychology</span><span class="wpb-banner_name">Template:WikiProject Psychology</span><span class="wpb-assessment_cat">psychology articles</span></span></td><td class="mbox-empty-cell"></td></tr><tr><td class="assess import-low"><a href="/wiki/Category:Low-importance_psychology_articles" title="Category:Low-importance psychology articles">Low</a></td><td class="mbox-text" colspan="2">This article has been rated as <b>Low-importance</b> on the <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Psychology/Assessment#Importance_scale" title="Wikipedia:WikiProject Psychology/Assessment">project's importance scale</a>.</td></tr></tbody></table></td></tr></tbody></table></td></tr></tbody></table> <meta property="mw:PageProp/toc"/> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Rmvd_passage" data-mw-thread-id="h-Rmvd_passage"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Rmvd_passage"></span>Rmvd passage<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Rmvd_passage"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Talk:Intersubjectivity&action=edit&section=1" title="Edit section: Rmvd passage"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Rmvd_passage","replies":[]}}--></div> <p>Following passage is removed. Citation requested in April, now here for the record.: ... 10:51, 8 July 2006 (UTC) </p> <ul><li>"The French philopsopher Jean-Paul Sartre argued that in making choices in life we effectively make choices for all humans as what is chosen is always the better choice, and what is better for one is better for all. This is also called 'intersubjectivity'.<style data-mw-deduplicate="TemplateStyles:r1248666159">.mw-parser-output .tfd-dated{font-size:85%}.mw-parser-output .tfd-default{border-bottom:1px solid var(--border-color-base,#a2a9b1);clear:both;text-align:center}.mw-parser-output .tfd-tiny{font-weight:bold}.mw-parser-output .tfd-inline{border:1px solid var(--border-color-base,#a2a9b1)}.mw-parser-output .tfd-sidebar{border-bottom:1px solid var(--border-color-base,#a2a9b1);text-align:center;position:relative}@media(min-width:640px){.mw-parser-output .tfd-sidebar{clear:right;float:right;width:22em}}</style><span class="tfd tfd-dated tfd-inline">‹The <a href="/wiki/Help:Template" title="Help:Template">template</a> <i><a href="/wiki/Template:Talkfact" title="Template:Talkfact">Talkfact</a></i> is being <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Templates_for_discussion/Log/2024_November_13#Template:Talkfact" title="Wikipedia:Templates for discussion/Log/2024 November 13">considered for merging</a>.›</span> <sup class="noprint Inline-Template" style="white-space:nowrap;">[<i><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Citation_needed" title="Wikipedia:Citation needed"><span title="Wikipedia:Citation needed">citation needed</span></a></i>]</sup>". . . 10:51, 8 July 2006 (UTC)</li></ul> <p><small><span class="autosigned">—Preceding <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Signatures" title="Wikipedia:Signatures">unsigned</a> comment added by <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Kenosis&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Kenosis (page does not exist)">Kenosis </a> (<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Kenosis&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:Kenosis (page does not exist)">talk</a> • <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Kenosis" title="Special:Contributions/Kenosis">contribs</a>) 06:51, July 8, 2006</span></small> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="rationalism" data-mw-thread-id="h-rationalism"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-rationalism"></span>rationalism<span data-mw-comment-end="h-rationalism"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Talk:Intersubjectivity&action=edit&section=2" title="Edit section: rationalism"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-rationalism","replies":[]}}--></div> <p>The author is conflating "common sense" with "intersubjectivity" in a while that excises the "subjective" root of the term. Intersubjectivity is not synonymous with notions of "common sense" or "public language", but rather the phenomenon of shared intuition among subjects. The subtlety is not its secret affinity with positivism but its mimicry of the self-referential synchronicity given usually and only to oneself. <small><span class="autosigned">—Preceding <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Signatures" title="Wikipedia:Signatures">unsigned</a> comment added by <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Fliushkin&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Fliushkin (page does not exist)">Fliushkin </a> (<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Fliushkin&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:Fliushkin (page does not exist)">talk</a> • <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Fliushkin" title="Special:Contributions/Fliushkin">contribs</a>) 21:41, May 22, 2007</span></small> </p><p><br/> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 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opinion","linkableTitle":"My opinion"}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Laboratorio.Ricerche.Evolutive-2008-02-03T01:15:00.000Z-My_opinion"></span>Test link and my opinion: this link is spam: </p><p><a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="http://www.psychematters.com/papers/benjamin.htm">http://www.psychematters.com/papers/benjamin.htm</a><br/> --<a href="/wiki/User:Laboratorio.Ricerche.Evolutive" title="User:Laboratorio.Ricerche.Evolutive">Laboratorio.Ricerche.Evolutive</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Laboratorio.Ricerche.Evolutive" title="User talk:Laboratorio.Ricerche.Evolutive">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Intersubjectivity#c-Laboratorio.Ricerche.Evolutive-2008-02-03T01:15:00.000Z-My_opinion" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">01:15, 3 February 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Laboratorio.Ricerche.Evolutive-2008-02-03T01:15:00.000Z-My_opinion"><span 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ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-72.228.177.92-2011-01-23T17:21:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Wrong,_Doof,_as_is_often_the_case_in_the_backwaters_of_wikipedia-2011-01-23T17:21:00.000Z","replies":["c-72.228.177.92-2011-01-23T17:21:00.000Z-Wrong,_Doof,_as_is_often_the_case_in_the_backwaters_of_wikipedia"],"text":"Wrong, Doof, as is often the case in the backwaters of wikipedia","linkableTitle":"Wrong, Doof, as is often the case in the backwaters of wikipedia"}--><h2 id="Wrong,_Doof,_as_is_often_the_case_in_the_backwaters_of_wikipedia" data-mw-thread-id="h-Wrong,_Doof,_as_is_often_the_case_in_the_backwaters_of_wikipedia-2011-01-23T17:21:00.000Z"><span id="Wrong.2C_Doof.2C_as_is_often_the_case_in_the_backwaters_of_wikipedia"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Wrong,_Doof,_as_is_often_the_case_in_the_backwaters_of_wikipedia-2011-01-23T17:21:00.000Z"></span>Wrong, Doof, as is often the case in the backwaters of wikipedia<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Wrong,_Doof,_as_is_often_the_case_in_the_backwaters_of_wikipedia-2011-01-23T17:21:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Talk:Intersubjectivity&action=edit&section=4" title="Edit section: Wrong, Doof, as is often the case in the backwaters of wikipedia"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-72.228.177.92-2011-01-23T17:21:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Wrong,_Doof,_as_is_often_the_case_in_the_backwaters_of_wikipedia-2011-01-23T17:21:00.000Z","replies":["c-72.228.177.92-2011-01-23T17:21:00.000Z-Wrong,_Doof,_as_is_often_the_case_in_the_backwaters_of_wikipedia"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div 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id="c-72.228.177.92-2011-01-23T17:21:00.000Z-Wrong,_Doof,_as_is_often_the_case_in_the_backwaters_of_wikipedia"></span>This term is a philosophical one and comes from <a href="/wiki/Phenomenology" class="mw-disambig" title="Phenomenology">phenomenology</a>, its most common connotation is to refer to relations between the self and others, or between thinking subjects generally, as the name implies and as distinct category, not a "multi-subjectivity". <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/72.228.177.92" title="Special:Contributions/72.228.177.92">72.228.177.92</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:72.228.177.92" title="User talk:72.228.177.92">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Intersubjectivity#c-72.228.177.92-2011-01-23T17:21:00.000Z-Wrong,_Doof,_as_is_often_the_case_in_the_backwaters_of_wikipedia" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:21, 23 January 2011 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" 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cleaned up some since above, still fails to put in context of <a href="/wiki/Continental_philosophy" title="Continental philosophy">continental philosophy</a> of which it is a characteristic and traditional element. <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/72.228.190.243" title="Special:Contributions/72.228.190.243">72.228.190.243</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:72.228.190.243" title="User talk:72.228.190.243">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Intersubjectivity#c-72.228.190.243-2013-01-10T13:29:00.000Z-72.228.177.92-2011-01-23T17:21:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:29, 10 January 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-72.228.190.243-2013-01-10T13:29:00.000Z-72.228.177.92-2011-01-23T17:21:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span 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id="h-Seriously?_;-)-2013-08-11T15:58:00.000Z"></span>Seriously? ;-)<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Seriously?_;-)-2013-08-11T15:58:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Talk:Intersubjectivity&action=edit&section=5" title="Edit section: Seriously? ;-)"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-178.193.39.223-2013-08-11T15:58:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Seriously?_;-)-2013-08-11T15:58:00.000Z","replies":["c-178.193.39.223-2013-08-11T15:58:00.000Z-Seriously?_;-)"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-178.193.39.223-2013-08-11T15:58:00.000Z-Seriously?_;-)","timestamp":"2013-08-11T15:58:00.000Z"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__1__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__1__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-178.193.39.223-2013-08-11T15:58:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Seriously?_;-)-2013-08-11T15:58:00.000Z","replies":["c-178.193.39.223-2013-08-11T15:58:00.000Z-Seriously?_;-)"],"text":"Seriously?\u00a0;-)","linkableTitle":"Seriously? ;-)"}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-178.193.39.223-2013-08-11T15:58:00.000Z-Seriously?_;-)"></span>"Intersubjectivity can also be understood as the process of psychological energy moving between two or more subjects. In a room where someone is lying on their deathbed, for example, the room can appear to be enveloped in a shroud of gloom for other people interacting with the dying person. The psychological weight of one subject comes to bear on the minds of others depending on how they react to it, thereby creating an intersubjective experience that, without multiple consciousnesses interacting with each other, would be otherwise strictly solitary. Love is a prime example of intersubjectivity that implies a shared feeling of care and affection, among others." --<a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/178.193.39.223" title="Special:Contributions/178.193.39.223">178.193.39.223</a> (<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:178.193.39.223&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:178.193.39.223 (page does not exist)">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Intersubjectivity#c-178.193.39.223-2013-08-11T15:58:00.000Z-Seriously?_;-)" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:58, 11 August 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-178.193.39.223-2013-08-11T15:58:00.000Z-Seriously?_;-)"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-08-11T15:58:00.000Z","author":"178.193.39.223","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-178.193.39.223-2013-08-11T15:58:00.000Z-Seriously?_;-)","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-178.193.39.223-2013-08-11T15:58:00.000Z-Seriously?_;-)"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-137.163.31.190-2014-03-21T13:43:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-ethology_and_evolutionary_psychology-2014-03-21T13:43:00.000Z","replies":["c-137.163.31.190-2014-03-21T13:43:00.000Z-ethology_and_evolutionary_psychology"],"text":"ethology and evolutionary psychology","linkableTitle":"ethology and evolutionary psychology"}--><h2 id="ethology_and_evolutionary_psychology" data-mw-thread-id="h-ethology_and_evolutionary_psychology-2014-03-21T13:43:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-ethology_and_evolutionary_psychology-2014-03-21T13:43:00.000Z"></span>ethology and evolutionary psychology<span data-mw-comment-end="h-ethology_and_evolutionary_psychology-2014-03-21T13:43:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Talk:Intersubjectivity&action=edit&section=6" title="Edit section: ethology and evolutionary psychology"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-137.163.31.190-2014-03-21T13:43:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-ethology_and_evolutionary_psychology-2014-03-21T13:43:00.000Z","replies":["c-137.163.31.190-2014-03-21T13:43:00.000Z-ethology_and_evolutionary_psychology"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-137.163.31.190-2014-03-21T13:43:00.000Z-ethology_and_evolutionary_psychology","timestamp":"2014-03-21T13:43:00.000Z"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__1__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__1__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-137.163.31.190-2014-03-21T13:43:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-ethology_and_evolutionary_psychology-2014-03-21T13:43:00.000Z","replies":["c-137.163.31.190-2014-03-21T13:43:00.000Z-ethology_and_evolutionary_psychology"],"text":"ethology and evolutionary psychology","linkableTitle":"ethology and evolutionary psychology"}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-137.163.31.190-2014-03-21T13:43:00.000Z-ethology_and_evolutionary_psychology"></span>came to this page from a link on another wikipage that was discussing ev. psych. Therefore would be interesting to have something on the use of the term in that discipline here also. </p><p>--<a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/137.163.31.190" title="Special:Contributions/137.163.31.190">137.163.31.190</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:137.163.31.190" title="User talk:137.163.31.190">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Intersubjectivity#c-137.163.31.190-2014-03-21T13:43:00.000Z-ethology_and_evolutionary_psychology" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:43, 21 March 2014 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-137.163.31.190-2014-03-21T13:43:00.000Z-ethology_and_evolutionary_psychology"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2014-03-21T13:43:00.000Z","author":"137.163.31.190","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-137.163.31.190-2014-03-21T13:43:00.000Z-ethology_and_evolutionary_psychology","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-137.163.31.190-2014-03-21T13:43:00.000Z-ethology_and_evolutionary_psychology"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Ceruleanc-2014-12-01T05:16:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Adding_\"Across_Cultures\"-2014-12-01T05:16:00.000Z","replies":["c-Ceruleanc-2014-12-01T05:16:00.000Z-Adding_\"Across_Cultures\"","c-JoshLichtner-2014-12-03T17:30:00.000Z-Adding_\"Across_Cultures\""],"text":"Adding \"Across Cultures\"","linkableTitle":"Adding \"Across Cultures\""}--><h2 id="Adding_"Across_Cultures"" data-mw-thread-id="h-Adding_"Across_Cultures"-2014-12-01T05:16:00.000Z"><span id="Adding_.22Across_Cultures.22"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Adding_"Across_Cultures"-2014-12-01T05:16:00.000Z"></span>Adding "Across Cultures"<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Adding_"Across_Cultures"-2014-12-01T05:16:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Talk:Intersubjectivity&action=edit&section=7" title="Edit section: Adding "Across Cultures""><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Ceruleanc-2014-12-01T05:16:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Adding_\"Across_Cultures\"-2014-12-01T05:16:00.000Z","replies":["c-Ceruleanc-2014-12-01T05:16:00.000Z-Adding_\"Across_Cultures\"","c-JoshLichtner-2014-12-03T17:30:00.000Z-Adding_\"Across_Cultures\""]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-JoshLichtner-2014-12-03T17:30:00.000Z-Adding_\"Across_Cultures\"","timestamp":"2014-12-03T17:30:00.000Z"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__2__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__2__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Ceruleanc-2014-12-01T05:16:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Adding_\"Across_Cultures\"-2014-12-01T05:16:00.000Z","replies":["c-Ceruleanc-2014-12-01T05:16:00.000Z-Adding_\"Across_Cultures\"","c-JoshLichtner-2014-12-03T17:30:00.000Z-Adding_\"Across_Cultures\""],"text":"Adding \"Across Cultures\"","linkableTitle":"Adding \"Across Cultures\""}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Ceruleanc-2014-12-01T05:16:00.000Z-Adding_"Across_Cultures""></span>Hello, </p><p>I'm hoping to add information on intersubjectivity in relation to learning in Indigenous American communities to the bottom portions of this page. There is a small mention of intersubjectivity and infant development at the bottom that I will hope to reorganize and add a great deal to. </p><p>Thoughts? </p><p>-Sounds like a great idea. I was thinking of working on the Infant Development section as well; the mention of Colwyn Trevarthen could be expanded on a lot to add insight to this section. <small><span class="autosigned">— Preceding <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Signatures" title="Wikipedia:Signatures">unsigned</a> comment added by <a href="/wiki/User:Ceruleanc" title="User:Ceruleanc">Ceruleanc</a> (<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Ceruleanc&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:Ceruleanc (page does not exist)">talk</a> • <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Ceruleanc" title="Special:Contributions/Ceruleanc">contribs</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Intersubjectivity#c-Ceruleanc-2014-12-01T05:16:00.000Z-Adding_"Across_Cultures"" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">05:16, 1 December 2014 (UTC)</a></span></small><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Ceruleanc-2014-12-01T05:16:00.000Z-Adding_"Across_Cultures""><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2014-12-01T05:16:00.000Z","author":"Ceruleanc","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Ceruleanc-2014-12-01T05:16:00.000Z-Adding_\"Across_Cultures\"","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Ceruleanc-2014-12-01T05:16:00.000Z-Adding_"Across_Cultures""></span> </p><p><br/><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-JoshLichtner-2014-12-03T17:30:00.000Z-Adding_"Across_Cultures""></span> - Sounds very promising! Some findings by Fuchs and DeJaegher are also very relevant to this section. <small><span class="autosigned">— Preceding <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Signatures" title="Wikipedia:Signatures">unsigned</a> comment added by <a href="/wiki/User:JoshLichtner" title="User:JoshLichtner">JoshLichtner</a> (<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:JoshLichtner&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:JoshLichtner (page does not exist)">talk</a> • <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/JoshLichtner" title="Special:Contributions/JoshLichtner">contribs</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Intersubjectivity#c-JoshLichtner-2014-12-03T17:30:00.000Z-Adding_"Across_Cultures"" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:30, 3 December 2014 (UTC)</a></span></small><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-JoshLichtner-2014-12-03T17:30:00.000Z-Adding_"Across_Cultures""><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2014-12-03T17:30:00.000Z","author":"JoshLichtner","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-JoshLichtner-2014-12-03T17:30:00.000Z-Adding_\"Across_Cultures\"","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-JoshLichtner-2014-12-03T17:30:00.000Z-Adding_"Across_Cultures""></span> </p> <!-- NewPP limit report Parsed by mw‐web.eqiad.main‐75c465f4c6‐xl6gx Cached time: 20241125104815 Cache expiry: 864000 Reduced expiry: true Complications: [vary‐revision‐sha1, show‐toc] DiscussionTools time usage: 0.014 seconds CPU time usage: 0.225 seconds Real time usage: 0.332 seconds Preprocessor visited node count: 832/1000000 Post‐expand include size: 27218/2097152 bytes Template argument size: 267/2097152 bytes Highest expansion depth: 9/100 Expensive parser function count: 7/500 Unstrip recursion depth: 0/20 Unstrip post‐expand size: 17359/5000000 bytes Lua time usage: 0.136/10.000 seconds Lua memory usage: 2606896/52428800 bytes Number of Wikibase entities loaded: 0/400 --> <!-- Transclusion expansion time report (%,ms,calls,template) 100.00% 251.505 1 -total 73.77% 185.525 1 Template:WikiProject_banner_shell 39.14% 98.441 1 Template:WikiProject_Philosophy 26.16% 65.795 1 Template:Talkfact 19.87% 49.977 1 Template:Fix 15.41% 38.761 1 Template:Category_handler 4.99% 12.549 1 Template:Tfm/dated 3.93% 9.876 1 Template:WikiProject_Psychology 1.82% 4.586 1 Template:Delink 0.72% 1.813 1 Template:Fix/category --> <!-- Saved in parser cache with key enwiki:pcache:5880029:|#|:idhash:canonical and timestamp 20241125104815 and revision id 1198338846. 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