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If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Mathematics" title="Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Mathematics">the discussion</a> and see a list of open tasks.<span class="metadata wpb-metadata"><span class="wpb-project">Mathematics</span><span class="wpb-project_link">Wikipedia:WikiProject Mathematics</span><span class="wpb-banner_name">Template:WikiProject Mathematics</span><span class="wpb-assessment_cat">mathematics articles</span></span></td><td class="mbox-empty-cell"></td></tr><tr><td class="assess import-unknown"><a href="/wiki/Category:Unknown-priority_mathematics_articles" title="Category:Unknown-priority mathematics articles">???</a></td><td class="mbox-text" colspan="2">This article has not yet received a rating on the <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Mathematics/Wikipedia_1.0/Assessment#Priority_scale" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:WikiProject Mathematics/Wikipedia 1.0/Assessment">project's priority scale</a>.</td></tr></tbody></table></td></tr></tbody></table></td></tr></tbody></table> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Contested_deletion" data-mw-thread-id="h-Contested_deletion-2022-06-25T06:31:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Contested_deletion-2022-06-25T06:31:00.000Z"></span>Contested deletion<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Contested_deletion-2022-06-25T06:31:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Talk:Alan_Reid_(mathematician)&action=edit&section=1" title="Edit section: Contested deletion"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Rybu-2022-06-25T06:31:00.000Z-Contested_deletion"></span>This page is not unambiguously promotional, because... (your reason here) --<a href="/wiki/User:Rybu" title="User:Rybu">Rybu</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Rybu" title="User talk:Rybu">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Alan_Reid_(mathematician)#c-Rybu-2022-06-25T06:31:00.000Z-Contested_deletion" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">06:31, 25 June 2022 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Rybu-2022-06-25T06:31:00.000Z-Contested_deletion"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Rybu-2022-06-25T06:31:00.000Z-Contested_deletion"></span> </p><p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Kj_cheetham-2022-06-26T19:55:00.000Z-Contested_deletion"></span>Hi there, </p><p>The article was originally contested as not notable. So I looked up the criteria for notability, and this included things such as endowed chair positions and prestigious awards and recognitions. </p><p>So I added Reid's ICM address (one of the highest and rarest honours in math) together with his two endowed chair positions, one that he currently holds, as well as his popular book. </p><p>I suppose I was shocked that, on the face of it, it looks like the notability concerns were addressed but the page was deleted without comment. If his endowed chair positions and ICM address aren't the kind of recognition you want to see, what would qualify? They seem to work for other mathematicians -- for example should Ian Agol's ICM address be removed from his page as "not notable"? </p><p>If you leave the draft up for a little while, the page will be thickened-up a bit by other people. I barely know Reid, I was just putting up something basic. </p><p>It seems Wikipedia is getting far more aggressive about deleting pages than it used to. This leaves one to wonder, how can pages be built if they are killed off when young? Clearly there is a new process. I've been contributing to Wikipedia for a long time and have created many successful pages. I don't think any have been deleted before. </p><p>Thanks, </p><p>-ryan </p> <dl><dd>Hi <a href="/wiki/User:Rybu" title="User:Rybu">Rybu</a>, I'm not sure what happened here, but I can only assume it was some kind of mix up, as the page shouldn't have been deleted in my view. -<a href="/wiki/User:Kj_cheetham" title="User:Kj cheetham">Kj cheetham</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Kj_cheetham" title="User talk:Kj cheetham">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Alan_Reid_(mathematician)#c-Kj_cheetham-2022-06-26T19:55:00.000Z-Contested_deletion" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:55, 26 June 2022 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Kj_cheetham-2022-06-26T19:55:00.000Z-Contested_deletion"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Kj_cheetham-2022-06-26T19:55:00.000Z-Contested_deletion"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="AfC_Reviewer_Comment" data-mw-thread-id="h-AfC_Reviewer_Comment-2022-06-25T09:35:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-AfC_Reviewer_Comment-2022-06-25T09:35:00.000Z"></span>AfC Reviewer Comment<span data-mw-comment-end="h-AfC_Reviewer_Comment-2022-06-25T09:35:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Talk:Alan_Reid_(mathematician)&action=edit&section=2" title="Edit section: AfC Reviewer Comment"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Felix_QW-2022-06-25T09:35:00.000Z-AfC_Reviewer_Comment"></span>I accepted the article submission since the barebone information on the page is verifiable and the subject notable. 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