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If you would like to participate, you can edit this article, or visit the <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Caribbean" title="Wikipedia:WikiProject Caribbean">project page</a>, where you can join the project and/or contribute to the <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Caribbean" title="Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Caribbean">discussion</a>. If you are new to editing Wikipedia visit the <a href="/wiki/Help:Introduction" title="Help:Introduction">welcome page</a> to become familiar with the guidelines.<span class="metadata wpb-metadata"><span class="wpb-project">Caribbean</span><span class="wpb-project_link">Wikipedia:WikiProject Caribbean</span><span class="wpb-banner_name">Template:WikiProject Caribbean</span><span class="wpb-assessment_cat">Caribbean</span></span></td><td class="mbox-empty-cell"></td></tr><tr><td class="assess import-high"><a href="/wiki/Category:High-importance_Caribbean_articles" title="Category:High-importance Caribbean articles">High</a></td><td class="mbox-text" colspan="2">This article has been rated as <b>High-importance</b> on the <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Caribbean/Assessment#Importance_scale" title="Wikipedia:WikiProject Caribbean/Assessment">project's importance scale</a>.</td></tr></tbody></table></td></tr></tbody></table> <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1237879475"><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1259570071"><table class="tmbox tmbox-notice mw-collapsible innercollapse wpb wpb-table"><tbody><tr class="wpb-header"><td class="wpb-header-icon"><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Foods.jpg" class="mw-file-description"><img alt="WikiProject icon" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/c/c5/Foods.jpg/17px-Foods.jpg" decoding="async" width="17" height="25" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/c/c5/Foods.jpg/25px-Foods.jpg 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/c/c5/Foods.jpg/33px-Foods.jpg 2x" data-file-width="1793" data-file-height="2685"/></a></span></td><td class="wpb-header-combined"><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Food_and_drink" title="Wikipedia:WikiProject Food and drink">Food and drink</a> <span class="wpb-header-bubbles import-low">Low‑importance</span></td></tr><tr><td class="mbox-text wpb-main" colspan="2"><table><tbody><tr><td class="mbox-image wpb-image"><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Foods.jpg" class="mw-file-description"><img alt="WikiProject icon" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/c/c5/Foods.jpg/60px-Foods.jpg" decoding="async" width="60" height="90" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/c/c5/Foods.jpg/90px-Foods.jpg 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/c/c5/Foods.jpg/120px-Foods.jpg 2x" data-file-width="1793" data-file-height="2685"/></a></span></td><td class="mbox-text"><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1259569809"><ul role="navigation" aria-label="Portals" class="noprint portalbox portalborder portalright"> <li class="portalbox-entry"><span class="portalbox-image"><span class="noviewer" typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Foodlogo2.svg" class="mw-file-description"><img alt="icon" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/d6/Foodlogo2.svg/32px-Foodlogo2.svg.png" decoding="async" width="32" height="23" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/d6/Foodlogo2.svg/48px-Foodlogo2.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/d6/Foodlogo2.svg/64px-Foodlogo2.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="146" data-file-height="106"/></a></span></span><span class="portalbox-link"><a href="/wiki/Portal:Food" title="Portal:Food">Food portal</a></span></li></ul>This article is within the scope of <b><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Food_and_drink" title="Wikipedia:WikiProject Food and drink">WikiProject Food and drink</a></b>, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of <a href="/wiki/Food" title="Food">food</a> and <a href="/wiki/Drink" title="Drink">drink</a> related articles on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Food_and_drink" title="Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Food and drink">the discussion</a> and see a list of open tasks.<span class="metadata wpb-metadata"><span class="wpb-project">Food and drink</span><span class="wpb-project_link">Wikipedia:WikiProject Food and drink</span><span class="wpb-banner_name">Template:WikiProject Food and drink</span><span class="wpb-assessment_cat">Food and drink</span></span></td><td class="mbox-empty-cell"></td></tr><tr><td class="assess import-low"><a href="/wiki/Category:Low-importance_Food_and_drink_articles" title="Category:Low-importance Food and drink articles">Low</a></td><td class="mbox-text" colspan="2">This article has been rated as <b>Low-importance</b> on the <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Food_and_drink/Assessment#Importance_scale" title="Wikipedia:WikiProject Food and drink/Assessment">project's importance scale</a>.</td></tr><tr><td colspan="3" style="padding:0"><table class="mw-collapsible mw-collapsed" style="background:transparent;width:100%"><tbody><tr><th style="text-align:left;padding:0.2em 2px 0.2em 0">Food and Drink task list:</th></tr><tr><td style="text-align:left;padding:5px;background-color:white;border:1px solid #c0c090;margin-top:5px"><style data-mw-deduplicate="TemplateStyles:r1129693374">.mw-parser-output .hlist dl,.mw-parser-output .hlist ol,.mw-parser-output .hlist ul{margin:0;padding:0}.mw-parser-output .hlist dd,.mw-parser-output .hlist dt,.mw-parser-output .hlist li{margin:0;display:inline}.mw-parser-output .hlist.inline,.mw-parser-output .hlist.inline dl,.mw-parser-output .hlist.inline ol,.mw-parser-output .hlist.inline ul,.mw-parser-output .hlist dl dl,.mw-parser-output .hlist dl ol,.mw-parser-output .hlist dl ul,.mw-parser-output .hlist ol dl,.mw-parser-output .hlist ol ol,.mw-parser-output .hlist ol ul,.mw-parser-output .hlist ul dl,.mw-parser-output .hlist ul ol,.mw-parser-output .hlist ul ul{display:inline}.mw-parser-output .hlist .mw-empty-li{display:none}.mw-parser-output .hlist dt::after{content:": "}.mw-parser-output .hlist dd::after,.mw-parser-output .hlist li::after{content:" · ";font-weight:bold}.mw-parser-output .hlist dd:last-child::after,.mw-parser-output .hlist dt:last-child::after,.mw-parser-output .hlist li:last-child::after{content:none}.mw-parser-output .hlist dd dd:first-child::before,.mw-parser-output .hlist dd dt:first-child::before,.mw-parser-output .hlist dd li:first-child::before,.mw-parser-output .hlist dt dd:first-child::before,.mw-parser-output .hlist dt dt:first-child::before,.mw-parser-output .hlist dt li:first-child::before,.mw-parser-output .hlist li dd:first-child::before,.mw-parser-output .hlist li dt:first-child::before,.mw-parser-output .hlist li li:first-child::before{content:" (";font-weight:normal}.mw-parser-output .hlist dd dd:last-child::after,.mw-parser-output .hlist dd dt:last-child::after,.mw-parser-output .hlist dd li:last-child::after,.mw-parser-output .hlist dt dd:last-child::after,.mw-parser-output .hlist dt dt:last-child::after,.mw-parser-output .hlist dt li:last-child::after,.mw-parser-output .hlist li dd:last-child::after,.mw-parser-output .hlist li dt:last-child::after,.mw-parser-output .hlist li li:last-child::after{content:")";font-weight:normal}.mw-parser-output .hlist ol{counter-reset:listitem}.mw-parser-output .hlist ol>li{counter-increment:listitem}.mw-parser-output .hlist ol>li::before{content:" "counter(listitem)"\a0 "}.mw-parser-output .hlist dd ol>li:first-child::before,.mw-parser-output .hlist dt ol>li:first-child::before,.mw-parser-output .hlist li ol>li:first-child::before{content:" ("counter(listitem)"\a0 "}</style><div class="hlist plainlinks" style="text-align:center;font-size:90%;"><ul><li><a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia%3AWikiProject_Food_and_drink%2FOpen_tasks%2Ftasks&action=edit">edit</a></li><li><a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia%3AWikiProject_Food_and_drink%2FOpen_tasks%2Ftasks&action=history">history</a></li><li><a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia%3AWikiProject_Food_and_drink%2FOpen_tasks%2Ftasks&action=watch">watch</a></li><li><a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia%3AWikiProject_Food_and_drink%2FOpen_tasks%2Ftasks&action=purge">purge</a></li></ul> </div> <dl><dd>To edit this page, select <b><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Food_and_drink/Open_tasks/tasks" title="Wikipedia:WikiProject Food and drink/Open tasks/tasks">here</a></b></dd></dl> <table style="background:transparent"> <tbody><tr> <td style="vertical-align:top;"><div style="width:65px; vertical-align:top; padding-top:15px;"> <span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Nuvola_apps_package_editors.png" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/bd/Nuvola_apps_package_editors.png/50px-Nuvola_apps_package_editors.png" decoding="async" width="50" height="50" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/bd/Nuvola_apps_package_editors.png/75px-Nuvola_apps_package_editors.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/bd/Nuvola_apps_package_editors.png/100px-Nuvola_apps_package_editors.png 2x" data-file-width="128" data-file-height="128"/></a></span></div><br/> </td> <td>Here are some tasks you can do for <i><b><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Food_and_drink" title="Wikipedia:WikiProject Food and drink">WikiProject Food and drink</a></b></i>: <div style="font-size:90%; vertical-align:top;"> <ul><li>Help bring these <i>Top Importance</i> articles currently <b>B</b> Status or below up to <b>GA</b> status: <i><a href="/wiki/Agaricus_bisporus" title="Agaricus bisporus">Agaricus bisporus</a></i> (i.e. mushroom), <a href="/wiki/Beef" title="Beef">Beef</a>, <a href="/wiki/Bread" title="Bread">Bread</a>, <a href="/wiki/Curry" title="Curry">Curry</a>, <a href="/wiki/Drink" title="Drink">Drink</a>, <a href="/wiki/Food" title="Food">Food</a>, <a href="/wiki/Ham_and_eggs" title="Ham and eggs">Ham and eggs</a>, <a href="/wiki/Soy_sauce" title="Soy sauce">Soy sauce</a>, <a href="/wiki/Sushi" title="Sushi">Sushi</a>, <a href="/wiki/Yogurt" title="Yogurt">Yogurt</a></li> <li>Bring these <i>Top Importance</i> articles currently at <b>GA</b> status up to <b>FA</b> status: <a href="/wiki/Beer" title="Beer">Beer</a>, <a href="/wiki/French_cuisine" title="French cuisine">French cuisine</a>, <a href="/wiki/Sugar" title="Sugar">Sugar</a></li> <li>Bring these <i>High Importance</i> articles currently at <b>GA</b> status up to <b>FA</b> status: <a href="/wiki/Apple" title="Apple">Apple</a>, <a href="/wiki/Burger_King" title="Burger King">Burger King</a>, <a href="/wiki/Fish" title="Fish">Fish</a></li> <li>Participate in project-related <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Deletion_sorting/Food_and_drink" title="Wikipedia:WikiProject Deletion sorting/Food and drink">deletion discussions</a>.</li> <li>Delete unrelated trivia sections found in articles. Please review <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Trivia" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:Trivia">WP:Trivia</a> and <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Handling_trivia" title="Wikipedia:Handling trivia">WP:Handling trivia</a> to learn how to do this.</li> <li>Add the <b>{{WikiProject Food and drink}}</b> project banner to food and drink related articles and content to help bring them to the attention of members. For a complete list of banners for WikiProject Food and drink and its child projects, <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Food_and_drink/Banners" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:WikiProject Food and drink/Banners">select here</a>.</li> <li>Provide photographs and images for <a href="/wiki/Category:Wikipedia_requested_images_of_food" title="Category:Wikipedia requested images of food">Category:Wikipedia requested images of food</a></li> <li>Consider joining this project's <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Food_and_drink/Members/assessors" title="Wikipedia:WikiProject Food and drink/Members/assessors">Assessment task force</a>. List any <b>project ideas</b> in this section</li></ul> </div> </td></tr></tbody></table> <div class="center" style="width:auto; margin-left:auto; margin-right:auto;"><span style="font-size:85%;">Note: These lists are <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Transclusion" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:Transclusion">transcluded</a> from the project's tasks pages.</span></div> </td></tr></tbody></table></td></tr></tbody></table></td></tr></tbody></table></td></tr></tbody></table> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-RobertWrayUK-2006-12-22T11:27:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Copyvio_tag-2006-12-22T11:27:00.000Z","replies":["c-RobertWrayUK-2006-12-22T11:27:00.000Z-Copyvio_tag","c-87.194.191.97-2007-01-18T11:58:00.000Z-Copyvio_tag","c-Guettarda-2007-01-18T13:51:00.000Z-Copyvio_tag"],"text":"Copyvio tag","linkableTitle":"Copyvio tag"}--><h2 id="Copyvio_tag" data-mw-thread-id="h-Copyvio_tag-2006-12-22T11:27:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Copyvio_tag-2006-12-22T11:27:00.000Z"></span>Copyvio tag<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Copyvio_tag-2006-12-22T11:27:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Talk:Caribbean_cuisine&action=edit&section=1" title="Edit section: Copyvio tag"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-RobertWrayUK-2006-12-22T11:27:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Copyvio_tag-2006-12-22T11:27:00.000Z","replies":["c-RobertWrayUK-2006-12-22T11:27:00.000Z-Copyvio_tag","c-87.194.191.97-2007-01-18T11:58:00.000Z-Copyvio_tag","c-Guettarda-2007-01-18T13:51:00.000Z-Copyvio_tag"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-Afv2006-2007-01-19T10:07:00.000Z-Guettarda-2007-01-18T13:51:00.000Z","timestamp":"2007-01-19T10:07:00.000Z"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__5__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__5__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-RobertWrayUK-2006-12-22T11:27:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Copyvio_tag-2006-12-22T11:27:00.000Z","replies":["c-RobertWrayUK-2006-12-22T11:27:00.000Z-Copyvio_tag","c-87.194.191.97-2007-01-18T11:58:00.000Z-Copyvio_tag","c-Guettarda-2007-01-18T13:51:00.000Z-Copyvio_tag"],"text":"Copyvio tag","linkableTitle":"Copyvio tag"}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-RobertWrayUK-2006-12-22T11:27:00.000Z-Copyvio_tag"></span>I'm unsure if this is in actuality a copyright violation, it looks more like a "reverse copyright violation" at least insofar as the website mentioned seems to have poached its content (home page) from Wikipedia. The text is almost identical to that from the 01/08/06 12:15 edit of this page, which is prior to the date of registration of the domain. The content of Wikipedia has since been revised. <a href="/wiki/User:RobertWrayUK" title="User:RobertWrayUK">RobertWrayUK</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Caribbean_cuisine#c-RobertWrayUK-2006-12-22T11:27:00.000Z-Copyvio_tag" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:27, 22 December 2006 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-RobertWrayUK-2006-12-22T11:27:00.000Z-Copyvio_tag"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2006-12-22T11:27:00.000Z","author":"RobertWrayUK","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-RobertWrayUK-2006-12-22T11:27:00.000Z-Copyvio_tag","replies":["c-Anchoress-2006-12-22T11:47:00.000Z-RobertWrayUK-2006-12-22T11:27:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-RobertWrayUK-2006-12-22T11:27:00.000Z-Copyvio_tag"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Anchoress-2006-12-22T11:47:00.000Z-RobertWrayUK-2006-12-22T11:27:00.000Z"></span>Maybe, but it's credited as copyright the website on the website's page. And actually, one of the reasons I thought it was a copyvio is because it <i>read</i> like something cribbed from somewhere else, so... I don't know. <a href="/wiki/User:Anchoress" title="User:Anchoress">Anchoress</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Caribbean_cuisine#c-Anchoress-2006-12-22T11:47:00.000Z-RobertWrayUK-2006-12-22T11:27:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:47, 22 December 2006 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Anchoress-2006-12-22T11:47:00.000Z-RobertWrayUK-2006-12-22T11:27:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2006-12-22T11:47:00.000Z","author":"Anchoress","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Anchoress-2006-12-22T11:47:00.000Z-RobertWrayUK-2006-12-22T11:27:00.000Z","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Anchoress-2006-12-22T11:47:00.000Z-RobertWrayUK-2006-12-22T11:27:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-87.194.191.97-2007-01-18T11:58:00.000Z-Copyvio_tag"></span>The website mentioned as the original source looks pretty much auto-generated, and despite claiming copyright, credits wikipedia for its content "(Thanks to Wikipedia for this helpful Caribbean Cuisine guide.)" Looks like a reverse violation to be sure. --<a href="/w/index.php?title=User:87.194.191.97&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:87.194.191.97 (page does not exist)">87.194.191.97</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Caribbean_cuisine#c-87.194.191.97-2007-01-18T11:58:00.000Z-Copyvio_tag" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:58, 18 January 2007 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-87.194.191.97-2007-01-18T11:58:00.000Z-Copyvio_tag"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2007-01-18T11:58:00.000Z","author":"87.194.191.97","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-87.194.191.97-2007-01-18T11:58:00.000Z-Copyvio_tag","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-87.194.191.97-2007-01-18T11:58:00.000Z-Copyvio_tag"></span> </p><p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Guettarda-2007-01-18T13:51:00.000Z-Copyvio_tag"></span>Look at the page history, this article grew here organically. <a href="/wiki/User:Guettarda" title="User:Guettarda">Guettarda</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Caribbean_cuisine#c-Guettarda-2007-01-18T13:51:00.000Z-Copyvio_tag" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:51, 18 January 2007 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Guettarda-2007-01-18T13:51:00.000Z-Copyvio_tag"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2007-01-18T13:51:00.000Z","author":"Guettarda","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Guettarda-2007-01-18T13:51:00.000Z-Copyvio_tag","replies":["c-Afv2006-2007-01-19T10:07:00.000Z-Guettarda-2007-01-18T13:51:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Guettarda-2007-01-18T13:51:00.000Z-Copyvio_tag"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Afv2006-2007-01-19T10:07:00.000Z-Guettarda-2007-01-18T13:51:00.000Z"></span>Yes, I agree with Guettarda. The site referred to in the edit summary as being the one that might have been copied actually has a note posted that reads: "Thanks to Wikipedia for this helpful Caribbean Cuisine guide." <a href="/wiki/User:Afv2006" title="User:Afv2006">Afv2006</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Caribbean_cuisine#c-Afv2006-2007-01-19T10:07:00.000Z-Guettarda-2007-01-18T13:51:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:07, 19 January 2007 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Afv2006-2007-01-19T10:07:00.000Z-Guettarda-2007-01-18T13:51:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2007-01-19T10:07:00.000Z","author":"Afv2006","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Afv2006-2007-01-19T10:07:00.000Z-Guettarda-2007-01-18T13:51:00.000Z","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Afv2006-2007-01-19T10:07:00.000Z-Guettarda-2007-01-18T13:51:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Starbwoy-2017-07-09T21:26:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Please_delete_this_article_-_its_Pointless-2017-07-09T21:26:00.000Z","replies":["c-Starbwoy-2017-07-09T21:26:00.000Z-Please_delete_this_article_-_its_Pointless"],"text":"Please delete this article - its Pointless","linkableTitle":"Please delete this article - its Pointless"}--><h2 id="Please_delete_this_article_-_its_Pointless" data-mw-thread-id="h-Please_delete_this_article_-_its_Pointless-2017-07-09T21:26:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Please_delete_this_article_-_its_Pointless-2017-07-09T21:26:00.000Z"></span>Please delete this article - its Pointless<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Please_delete_this_article_-_its_Pointless-2017-07-09T21:26:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Talk:Caribbean_cuisine&action=edit&section=2" title="Edit section: Please delete this article - its Pointless"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Starbwoy-2017-07-09T21:26:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Please_delete_this_article_-_its_Pointless-2017-07-09T21:26:00.000Z","replies":["c-Starbwoy-2017-07-09T21:26:00.000Z-Please_delete_this_article_-_its_Pointless"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-2600:1700:D6E0:65E0:E0B0:3A31:8BDC:DBEC-2020-05-26T19:28:00.000Z-Starbwoy-2017-07-09T21:26:00.000Z","timestamp":"2020-05-26T19:28:00.000Z"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__3__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__3__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Starbwoy-2017-07-09T21:26:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Please_delete_this_article_-_its_Pointless-2017-07-09T21:26:00.000Z","replies":["c-Starbwoy-2017-07-09T21:26:00.000Z-Please_delete_this_article_-_its_Pointless"],"text":"Please delete this article - its Pointless","linkableTitle":"Please delete this article - its Pointless"}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Starbwoy-2017-07-09T21:26:00.000Z-Please_delete_this_article_-_its_Pointless"></span>Please delete this article. It seems like it was started early in the history of Wikipedia (2006, still early), but each country developed their own cuisine page. I tried to fix this article. But there is no point in even trying. There is no such thing as one Caribbean cuisine, as its so diverse and different. For example Anglo Caribbean food in the southern Caribbean (which is already very diverse) is very different from Latin/Spanish derived food in the Spanish speaking islands. Thats the reason it was never developed beyond starting a stub. Its very difficult to cover all these islands food within one article which are already diverse within. It also covered in each countrys page, region and in this Americas Food section <a class="external free" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_cuisines_of_the_Americas">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_cuisines_of_the_Americas</a><a href="/wiki/User:Starbwoy" title="User:Starbwoy">Starbwoy</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Starbwoy" title="User talk:Starbwoy">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Caribbean_cuisine#c-Starbwoy-2017-07-09T21:26:00.000Z-Please_delete_this_article_-_its_Pointless" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:26, 9 July 2017 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Starbwoy-2017-07-09T21:26:00.000Z-Please_delete_this_article_-_its_Pointless"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-07-09T21:26:00.000Z","author":"Starbwoy","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Starbwoy-2017-07-09T21:26:00.000Z-Please_delete_this_article_-_its_Pointless","replies":["c-Grueslayer-2017-07-15T11:55:00.000Z-Starbwoy-2017-07-09T21:26:00.000Z","c-2600:1700:D6E0:65E0:E0B0:3A31:8BDC:DBEC-2020-05-26T19:28:00.000Z-Starbwoy-2017-07-09T21:26:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Starbwoy-2017-07-09T21:26:00.000Z-Please_delete_this_article_-_its_Pointless"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Grueslayer-2017-07-15T11:55:00.000Z-Starbwoy-2017-07-09T21:26:00.000Z"></span>The article is bad, but that doesn't mean the lemma is unimportant. What I would expect from an article "Caribbean cuisine" is how Amerinidian cuisine, the cuisine of the colonial powers, the native cusines of slaves and contract workers and influences of 20th century immigration blended into Caribbean cuisine in general, and how which influences led to the development of individuel national or cultural cuisines. And I would like to know which plants and animals are pan-Caribbean ingredients, and which are native and which were brought by whom. Kind regards, <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Grueslayer" title="User talk:Grueslayer">Grueslayer</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Caribbean_cuisine#c-Grueslayer-2017-07-15T11:55:00.000Z-Starbwoy-2017-07-09T21:26:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:55, 15 July 2017 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Grueslayer-2017-07-15T11:55:00.000Z-Starbwoy-2017-07-09T21:26:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-07-15T11:55:00.000Z","author":"Grueslayer","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Grueslayer-2017-07-15T11:55:00.000Z-Starbwoy-2017-07-09T21:26:00.000Z","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Grueslayer-2017-07-15T11:55:00.000Z-Starbwoy-2017-07-09T21:26:00.000Z"></span></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-2600:1700:D6E0:65E0:E0B0:3A31:8BDC:DBEC-2020-05-26T19:28:00.000Z-Starbwoy-2017-07-09T21:26:00.000Z"></span>Actually it started even earlier than 2006, it dates all the way back to 2001. I agree that the article is bad, but as a list page for quick navigation to the pages for the cuisine of specific countries/islands, it is useful. I did have to delete links to Louisiana creole cuisine and Low Country cuisine (ie, coastal South Carolina cuisine); it's ridiculous that anyone put those in the list, obviously are NOT by any stretch of the imagination types of Caribbean cuisine. If someone wants to put some properly sourced text about historical connections between these two regions and the Caribbean in another section of the article, that would be fine, but listing these two non-Caribbean cuisine traditions in the "By Location" section along with all the actual Caribbean locations is entirely inappropriate. I also had the link to Mexican food link to the section in that article on the Yucatan, since that is the only area of that vast country with is in the Caribbean region, and the only cuisine that really could be called Caribbean. <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/2600:1700:D6E0:65E0:E0B0:3A31:8BDC:DBEC" title="Special:Contributions/2600:1700:D6E0:65E0:E0B0:3A31:8BDC:DBEC">2600:1700:D6E0:65E0:E0B0:3A31:8BDC:DBEC</a> (<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:2600:1700:D6E0:65E0:E0B0:3A31:8BDC:DBEC&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:2600:1700:D6E0:65E0:E0B0:3A31:8BDC:DBEC (page does not exist)">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Caribbean_cuisine#c-2600:1700:D6E0:65E0:E0B0:3A31:8BDC:DBEC-2020-05-26T19:28:00.000Z-Starbwoy-2017-07-09T21:26:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:28, 26 May 2020 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-2600:1700:D6E0:65E0:E0B0:3A31:8BDC:DBEC-2020-05-26T19:28:00.000Z-Starbwoy-2017-07-09T21:26:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2020-05-26T19:28:00.000Z","author":"2600:1700:D6E0:65E0:E0B0:3A31:8BDC:DBEC","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-2600:1700:D6E0:65E0:E0B0:3A31:8BDC:DBEC-2020-05-26T19:28:00.000Z-Starbwoy-2017-07-09T21:26:00.000Z","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-2600:1700:D6E0:65E0:E0B0:3A31:8BDC:DBEC-2020-05-26T19:28:00.000Z-Starbwoy-2017-07-09T21:26:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Markcymru-2021-04-21T16:18:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Caribbean_Cuisine-2021-04-21T16:18:00.000Z","replies":["c-Markcymru-2021-04-21T16:18:00.000Z-Caribbean_Cuisine"],"text":"Caribbean Cuisine","linkableTitle":"Caribbean Cuisine"}--><h2 id="Caribbean_Cuisine" data-mw-thread-id="h-Caribbean_Cuisine-2021-04-21T16:18:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Caribbean_Cuisine-2021-04-21T16:18:00.000Z"></span>Caribbean Cuisine<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Caribbean_Cuisine-2021-04-21T16:18:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Talk:Caribbean_cuisine&action=edit&section=3" title="Edit section: Caribbean Cuisine"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Markcymru-2021-04-21T16:18:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Caribbean_Cuisine-2021-04-21T16:18:00.000Z","replies":["c-Markcymru-2021-04-21T16:18:00.000Z-Caribbean_Cuisine"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-Markcymru-2021-04-21T16:18:00.000Z-Caribbean_Cuisine","timestamp":"2021-04-21T16:18:00.000Z"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__1__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__1__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Markcymru-2021-04-21T16:18:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Caribbean_Cuisine-2021-04-21T16:18:00.000Z","replies":["c-Markcymru-2021-04-21T16:18:00.000Z-Caribbean_Cuisine"],"text":"Caribbean Cuisine","linkableTitle":"Caribbean Cuisine"}--></div></div></div> <p><i><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Markcymru-2021-04-21T16:18:00.000Z-Caribbean_Cuisine"></span>"Over time, food from the Caribbean has evolved into a narrative technique through which their culture has been accentuated and promoted. However, by studying Caribbean culture through a literary lens there then runs the risk of generalizing exoticist ideas about food practices from the tropics. Some food theorists argue that this depiction of Caribbean food in various forms of media contributes to the inaccurate conceptions revolving around their culinary practices, which are much more grounded in unpleasant historical events. Therefore, it can be argued that the connection between the idea of the Caribbean being the ultimate paradise and Caribbean food being exotic is based on inaccurate information."</i> </p><p>What on earth does this paragraph mean? It is completely impenetrable. Can someone who DOES understand it re-write it in day-to-day jargon-free English, please? Please! <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Markcymru&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Markcymru (page does not exist)">Markcymru</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Markcymru" title="User talk:Markcymru">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Caribbean_cuisine#c-Markcymru-2021-04-21T16:18:00.000Z-Caribbean_Cuisine" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:18, 21 April 2021 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Markcymru-2021-04-21T16:18:00.000Z-Caribbean_Cuisine"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2021-04-21T16:18:00.000Z","author":"Markcymru","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Markcymru-2021-04-21T16:18:00.000Z-Caribbean_Cuisine","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Markcymru-2021-04-21T16:18:00.000Z-Caribbean_Cuisine"></span> </p> <!-- NewPP limit report Parsed by mw‐web.codfw.main‐7959fbf7c4‐gfsx7 Cached time: 20241212162205 Cache expiry: 864000 Reduced expiry: true Complications: [vary‐revision‐sha1] DiscussionTools time usage: 0.013 seconds CPU time usage: 0.216 seconds Real time usage: 0.282 seconds Preprocessor visited node count: 1386/1000000 Post‐expand include size: 33445/2097152 bytes Template argument size: 1547/2097152 bytes Highest expansion depth: 10/100 Expensive parser function count: 9/500 Unstrip recursion depth: 0/20 Unstrip post‐expand size: 19227/5000000 bytes Lua time usage: 0.154/10.000 seconds Lua memory usage: 3415379/52428800 bytes Number of Wikibase entities loaded: 0/400 --> <!-- Transclusion expansion time report (%,ms,calls,template) 100.00% 224.392 1 Template:WikiProject_banner_shell 100.00% 224.392 1 -total 36.59% 82.108 1 Template:WikiProject_Caribbean 25.21% 56.563 1 Template:WikiProject_Food_and_drink 1.67% 3.746 1 Template:Center 0.58% 1.301 1 Template:Small --> <!-- Saved in parser cache with key enwiki:pcache:8561616:|#|:idhash:canonical and timestamp 20241212162205 and revision id 1194953713. 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