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Episode 18: AI Hype - The Biomedical Informatics Roundtable Podcast

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This episode also features news, open data, and a journal club discussion. The notes from the show are included below. </p> <p><a href="https://www.statnews.com/2022/03/25/google-health-artificial-intelligence/">Humility over hype: An AI leader at Google lays out a vision to transform medical care</a></p> <p><a href="https://spectrum.ieee.org/andrew-ng-xrays-the-ai-hype">Andrew Ng X-Rays the AI Hype</a></p> <p><a href="https://arxiv.org/abs/2202.09101">Preprint on the harm of class imbalance corrections for risk predictions</a></p> <p><a href="https://hbr.org/2022/03/overcoming-the-c-suites-distrust-of-ai">Interesting piece in the Harvard Business Review</a> from March 23 titled Overcoming the C-suite鈥檚 distrust of AI</p> <p><a href="https://genomebiology.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/s13059-022-02653-7">Paper on ML for spatial transcriptomics data</a></p> <p><a href="https://www.statnews.com/2022/03/25/digital-health-the-latest-iteration-of-medicines-knowledge-problem/">Opinion piece in Stat magazine on digital health</a></p> <p><a href="https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S2589750021002089">Paper in Lancet Digital Health</a> on the false hope of explainable AI in healthcare</p> <p><a href="https://scientistseessquirrel.wordpress.com/2022/03/15/maybe-its-time-to-stop-teaching-the-scientific-method-in-1st-year-biology/">Blog on Scientist Sees Squirrel </a>on why it might be time to stop teaching the scientific method in first year biology</p> <p><a href="https://journals.plos.org/plosbiology/article?id=10.1371/journal.pbio.3001470">Interesting new paper in PLOS Biology</a> on Examining the linguistic shifts between preprints and publications</p> <p><a href="https://aeon.co/essays/how-evolution-hacked-its-way-to-intelligence-from-the-bottom-up">Great piece by Dr. Michael Levin in Aeon magazine</a> from March 8th titled 鈥淢odular Cognition&#8221;</p> <p><a href="https://trialsjournal.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/s13063-021-05489-x">The role of machine learning in clinical research</a></p> <p><a href="https://www.cell.com/patterns/fulltext/S2666-3899(20)30156-2">Statistical hypothesis testing versus machine learning</a> binary classification: distinctions and guidelines</p> <p>New 500-page open-access <a href="https://conwaylife.com/book">book on Conway鈥檚 Game of Life</a></p> <p><a href="https://journals.plos.org/ploscompbiol/article?id=10.1371/journal.pcbi.1009803">Journal club paper on deep learning</a></p> <p><a href="https://www.researchallofus.org/data-tools/workbench/">The All of Us project</a></p> </div> <div class="tags-secondline"><i class="fa fa-tags"></i><a href="https://bmipodcast.org/tag/ai/" rel="tag">AI</a> <a href="https://bmipodcast.org/tag/artificial-intelligence/" rel="tag">artificial intelligence</a> <a href="https://bmipodcast.org/tag/bioinformatics/" rel="tag">bioinformatics</a> <a href="https://bmipodcast.org/tag/data-science/" rel="tag">Data science</a> <a href="https://bmipodcast.org/tag/hype/" rel="tag">hype</a> <a 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