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id="h-Property_constraint_comment-2016-07-02T08:40:00.000Z"></span><span id="Property_constraint_comment"></span><span dir="ltr" lang="en">Property constraint comment</span><span data-mw-comment-end="h-Property_constraint_comment-2016-07-02T08:40:00.000Z"></span></h3><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="https://www-wikidata-org.translate.goog/w/index.php?title=Wikidata:Property_proposal/Property_constraint_comment&action=edit&section=1&_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="Edit section: Property constraint comment"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span> </div> <div class="property-navibox" dir="ltr"> <span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Jura1-2016-07-02T08:40:00.000Z-Property_constraint_comment"></span> <style data-mw-deduplicate="TemplateStyles:r2262253935">.mw-parser-output .property-navibox{background:var(--background-color-progressive-subtle,#f1f4fd);border:3px solid 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th{padding-left:1em;text-align:right}@media(max-width:720px){.mw-parser-output .property-navibox-header{display:flex;flex-direction:column-reverse}.mw-parser-output .property-navibox-main>table>tbody>tr>td,.mw-parser-output .property-navibox-main>table>tbody>tr>th{display:block}}</style> <div class="property-navibox-header"> <ul class="property-navibox-links plainlinks"> <li class="mw-empty-elt"></li> </ul> <div> <span style="background-color:#C00;"> </span> Not done </div> </div> <div class="property-navibox-main"> <table> <tbody> <tr> <th>Description</th> <td><span dir="ltr" lang="en">qualifier to provide an explanation about a specific property constraint</span></td> </tr> <tr> <th>Data type</th> <td><a href="https://www-wikidata-org.translate.goog/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Help:Data_type?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB#monolingualtext" title="Special:MyLanguage/Help:Data type">Monolingual text</a></td> </tr> <tr> <th>Domain</th> <td>property namespace: statements for property constraint</td> </tr> <tr> <th>Example 1</th> <td><span style="color: red;">MISSING</span></td> </tr> <tr> <th>Example 2</th> <td><span style="color: red;">MISSING</span></td> </tr> <tr> <th>Example 3</th> <td><span style="color: red;">MISSING</span></td> </tr> </tbody> </table> </div> </div> <ul> <li><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a6/Pictogram_voting_comment.svg/15px-Pictogram_voting_comment.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a6/Pictogram_voting_comment.svg/23px-Pictogram_voting_comment.svg.png 1.5x,https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a6/Pictogram_voting_comment.svg/30px-Pictogram_voting_comment.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="250" data-file-height="250"></span></span> <b>Comment</b> Replacement for <a href="https://www-wikidata-org.translate.goog/wiki/Property:P2315?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="Property:P2315">comment (DEPRECATED) <small dir="ltr">(P2315)</small></a>. Part of <a href="https://www-wikidata-org.translate.goog/w/index.php?title=User:Ivan_A._Krestinin&action=edit&redlink=1&_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" class="new" title="User:Ivan A. Krestinin (page does not exist)">Ivan A. Krestinin</a>'s <a href="https://www-wikidata-org.translate.goog/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/40?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB#comment" title="Wikidata:Property proposal/Archive/40">Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/40#comment</a>, created but with a label that was too generic. <br> --- <a href="https://www-wikidata-org.translate.goog/wiki/User_talk:Jura1?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User talk:Jura1">Jura</a> <a href="https://www-wikidata-org.translate.goog/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Property_constraint_comment?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB#c-Jura1-2016-07-02T08:40:00.000Z-Property_constraint_comment" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">08:40, 2 July 2016 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Jura1-2016-07-02T08:40:00.000Z-Property_constraint_comment"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="https://www-wikidata-org.translate.goog/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Property_constraint_comment?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Jura1-2016-07-02T08:40:00.000Z-Property_constraint_comment"></span></li> <li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Pigsonthewing-2016-07-04T12:24:00.000Z-Jura1-2016-07-02T08:40:00.000Z"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7f/Symbol_oppose_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_oppose_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7f/Symbol_oppose_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_oppose_vote.svg.png 1.5x,https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7f/Symbol_oppose_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_oppose_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"></span></span> <b>Oppose</b> This is not the forum to replace existing properties. <span class="vcard"><span class="fn"><a href="https://www-wikidata-org.translate.goog/wiki/User:Pigsonthewing?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User:Pigsonthewing">Andy Mabbett</a></span> (<span class="nickname">Pigsonthewing</span>); <a href="https://www-wikidata-org.translate.goog/wiki/User_talk:Pigsonthewing?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User talk:Pigsonthewing">Talk to Andy</a>; <a href="https://www-wikidata-org.translate.goog/wiki/Special:Contributions/Pigsonthewing?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="Special:Contributions/Pigsonthewing">Andy's edits</a></span> <a href="https://www-wikidata-org.translate.goog/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Property_constraint_comment?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB#c-Pigsonthewing-2016-07-04T12:24:00.000Z-Jura1-2016-07-02T08:40:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:24, 4 July 2016 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Pigsonthewing-2016-07-04T12:24:00.000Z-Jura1-2016-07-02T08:40:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="https://www-wikidata-org.translate.goog/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Property_constraint_comment?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Pigsonthewing-2016-07-04T12:24:00.000Z-Jura1-2016-07-02T08:40:00.000Z"></span> <ul> <li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Thryduulf-2016-07-04T12:44:00.000Z-Pigsonthewing-2016-07-04T12:24:00.000Z"></span>Where should replacement properties be discussed then? There is consensus in several places that <a href="https://www-wikidata-org.translate.goog/wiki/Property:P2315?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="Property:P2315">comment (DEPRECATED) <small dir="ltr">(P2315)</small></a> needs to go as it conflates several different things in an unstructured manner. Because at least some of what it contains is useful several properties have been/are being proposed to replace it in a structured fashion - see for example <a href="https://www-wikidata-org.translate.goog/wiki/Property:P2559?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="Property:P2559">Wikidata usage instructions <small dir="ltr">(P2559)</small></a>, <a href="https://www-wikidata-org.translate.goog/wiki/Property:P2916?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="Property:P2916">syntax clarification <small dir="ltr">(P2916)</small></a> and <a href="https://www-wikidata-org.translate.goog/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/source_validity_comment?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="Wikidata:Property proposal/source validity comment">Wikidata:Property proposal/source validity comment</a>. <a href="https://www-wikidata-org.translate.goog/wiki/User:Thryduulf?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User:Thryduulf">Thryduulf</a> (<a href="https://www-wikidata-org.translate.goog/wiki/User_talk:Thryduulf?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User talk:Thryduulf"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www-wikidata-org.translate.goog/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Property_constraint_comment?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB#c-Thryduulf-2016-07-04T12:44:00.000Z-Pigsonthewing-2016-07-04T12:24:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:44, 4 July 2016 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Thryduulf-2016-07-04T12:44:00.000Z-Pigsonthewing-2016-07-04T12:24:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="https://www-wikidata-org.translate.goog/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Property_constraint_comment?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Thryduulf-2016-07-04T12:44:00.000Z-Pigsonthewing-2016-07-04T12:24:00.000Z"></span></li> </ul></li> <li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Jura1-2016-07-10T18:23:00.000Z-Jura1-2016-07-02T08:40:00.000Z"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a6/Pictogram_voting_comment.svg/15px-Pictogram_voting_comment.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a6/Pictogram_voting_comment.svg/23px-Pictogram_voting_comment.svg.png 1.5x,https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a6/Pictogram_voting_comment.svg/30px-Pictogram_voting_comment.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="250" data-file-height="250"></span></span> <b>Comment</b> seems to be ready for creation. <br> --- <a href="https://www-wikidata-org.translate.goog/wiki/User_talk:Jura1?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User talk:Jura1">Jura</a> <a href="https://www-wikidata-org.translate.goog/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Property_constraint_comment?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB#c-Jura1-2016-07-10T18:23:00.000Z-Jura1-2016-07-02T08:40:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:23, 10 July 2016 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Jura1-2016-07-10T18:23:00.000Z-Jura1-2016-07-02T08:40:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="https://www-wikidata-org.translate.goog/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Property_constraint_comment?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Jura1-2016-07-10T18:23:00.000Z-Jura1-2016-07-02T08:40:00.000Z"></span> <ul> <li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Pigsonthewing-2016-07-10T18:38:00.000Z-Jura1-2016-07-10T18:23:00.000Z"></span>There is no consensus for its creation. <span class="vcard"><span class="fn"><a href="https://www-wikidata-org.translate.goog/wiki/User:Pigsonthewing?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User:Pigsonthewing">Andy Mabbett</a></span> (<span class="nickname">Pigsonthewing</span>); <a href="https://www-wikidata-org.translate.goog/wiki/User_talk:Pigsonthewing?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User talk:Pigsonthewing">Talk to Andy</a>; <a href="https://www-wikidata-org.translate.goog/wiki/Special:Contributions/Pigsonthewing?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="Special:Contributions/Pigsonthewing">Andy's edits</a></span> <a href="https://www-wikidata-org.translate.goog/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Property_constraint_comment?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB#c-Pigsonthewing-2016-07-10T18:38:00.000Z-Jura1-2016-07-10T18:23:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:38, 10 July 2016 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Pigsonthewing-2016-07-10T18:38:00.000Z-Jura1-2016-07-10T18:23:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="https://www-wikidata-org.translate.goog/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Property_constraint_comment?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Pigsonthewing-2016-07-10T18:38:00.000Z-Jura1-2016-07-10T18:23:00.000Z"></span></li> <li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Thryduulf-2016-07-10T22:51:00.000Z-Jura1-2016-07-10T18:23:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="https://www-wikidata-org.translate.goog/wiki/User:Jura1?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User:Jura1"><bdi>Jura1</bdi></a>: Please can you explain why you think this is ready for creation when there are no supports, one oppose and one unanswered question related to that oppose? Please can you also supply an example use of the property. <a href="https://www-wikidata-org.translate.goog/wiki/User:Thryduulf?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User:Thryduulf">Thryduulf</a> (<a href="https://www-wikidata-org.translate.goog/wiki/User_talk:Thryduulf?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User talk:Thryduulf"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www-wikidata-org.translate.goog/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Property_constraint_comment?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB#c-Thryduulf-2016-07-10T22:51:00.000Z-Jura1-2016-07-10T18:23:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:51, 10 July 2016 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Thryduulf-2016-07-10T22:51:00.000Z-Jura1-2016-07-10T18:23:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="https://www-wikidata-org.translate.goog/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Property_constraint_comment?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Thryduulf-2016-07-10T22:51:00.000Z-Jura1-2016-07-10T18:23:00.000Z"></span> <ul> <li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Jura1-2016-07-11T03:48:00.000Z-Thryduulf-2016-07-10T22:51:00.000Z"></span>I think you addressed the oppose argument. Besides, I had been advised to ignore Pigs' comments as they are frequently irrelevant. It seems they are just randomly inserted into proposals I formulated. As you mentioned, there is a consensus to replace P2315 and this covers the initial use case. <br> --- <a href="https://www-wikidata-org.translate.goog/wiki/User_talk:Jura1?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User talk:Jura1">Jura</a> <a href="https://www-wikidata-org.translate.goog/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Property_constraint_comment?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB#c-Jura1-2016-07-11T03:48:00.000Z-Thryduulf-2016-07-10T22:51:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">03:48, 11 July 2016 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Jura1-2016-07-11T03:48:00.000Z-Thryduulf-2016-07-10T22:51:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="https://www-wikidata-org.translate.goog/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Property_constraint_comment?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Jura1-2016-07-11T03:48:00.000Z-Thryduulf-2016-07-10T22:51:00.000Z"></span> <ul> <li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Thryduulf-2016-07-11T10:34:00.000Z-Jura1-2016-07-11T03:48:00.000Z"></span>While there is a consensus to replace P2315, that does not imply there is a consensus to (partially) replace it with this property. Without seeing examples of the sort of comments that this will be used to store I'm neither supporting nor opposing it. Additionally, as proposer you are not the person who should be judging whether comments should be ignored and/or have been adequately addressed or not. <a href="https://www-wikidata-org.translate.goog/wiki/User:Thryduulf?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User:Thryduulf">Thryduulf</a> (<a href="https://www-wikidata-org.translate.goog/wiki/User_talk:Thryduulf?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User talk:Thryduulf"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www-wikidata-org.translate.goog/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Property_constraint_comment?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB#c-Thryduulf-2016-07-11T10:34:00.000Z-Jura1-2016-07-11T03:48:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:34, 11 July 2016 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Thryduulf-2016-07-11T10:34:00.000Z-Jura1-2016-07-11T03:48:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="https://www-wikidata-org.translate.goog/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Property_constraint_comment?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Thryduulf-2016-07-11T10:34:00.000Z-Jura1-2016-07-11T03:48:00.000Z"></span></li> </ul></li> </ul></li> </ul></li> <li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Thryduulf-2016-08-03T16:41:00.000Z-Jura1-2016-07-02T08:40:00.000Z"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7f/Symbol_oppose_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_oppose_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7f/Symbol_oppose_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_oppose_vote.svg.png 1.5x,https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7f/Symbol_oppose_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_oppose_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"></span></span> <b>Oppose</b> in the absence of examples. <a href="https://www-wikidata-org.translate.goog/wiki/User:Thryduulf?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User:Thryduulf">Thryduulf</a> (<a href="https://www-wikidata-org.translate.goog/wiki/User_talk:Thryduulf?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User talk:Thryduulf"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www-wikidata-org.translate.goog/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Property_constraint_comment?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB#c-Thryduulf-2016-08-03T16:41:00.000Z-Jura1-2016-07-02T08:40:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:41, 3 August 2016 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Thryduulf-2016-08-03T16:41:00.000Z-Jura1-2016-07-02T08:40:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="https://www-wikidata-org.translate.goog/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Property_constraint_comment?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Thryduulf-2016-08-03T16:41:00.000Z-Jura1-2016-07-02T08:40:00.000Z"></span></li> <li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Laddo-2016-08-05T20:19:00.000Z-Jura1-2016-07-02T08:40:00.000Z"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a6/Pictogram_voting_comment.svg/15px-Pictogram_voting_comment.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a6/Pictogram_voting_comment.svg/23px-Pictogram_voting_comment.svg.png 1.5x,https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a6/Pictogram_voting_comment.svg/30px-Pictogram_voting_comment.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="250" data-file-height="250"></span></span> <b>Comment</b> Indeed, I would appreciate examples. Which cases of <a class="external text" href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://query.wikidata.org/%23%2523Uses%2520of%2520P2315%253A%2509as%2520property%2520%2528any%2520rank%252Fbest%2520rank%252Fnormal%2520rank%252Fpreferred%2520rank%252Fdeprecated%2520rank%2529%250A%2523%2509%2509%2509%2509as%2520qualifier%250A%2523%2509%2509%2509%2509in%2520references%250A%2523by%2520Jura1%252C%2520rev%25202016-03-03%250ASELECT%2509%253Fuse%2520%253Frank%2520%253Fitems_with_property%2509%253Fuses_of_property%250AWHERE%257B%2509%257B%2509%2509SELECT%2520%2509%2528wikibase%253AstatementProperty%2520as%2520%253Fuse%2529%2509%2528COUNT%2528DISTINCT%2528%253Fitem%2529%2529%2520as%2520%253Fitems_with_property%2529%2509%2528COUNT%2528%253Fvalue%2529%2520as%2520%253Fuses_of_property%2529%250A%2509%2509%2509%2509WHERE%2509%257B%253Fitem%2520p%253AP2315%2520%253Fvalue%257D%257D%250AUNION%2509%257B%2509%2509SELECT%2520%2509%2528wikibase%253AstatementProperty%2520as%2520%253Fuse%2529%2509%2528wikibase%253ABestRank%2520as%2520%253Frank%2529%2509%2528COUNT%2528DISTINCT%2528%253Fitem%2529%2529%2509as%2520%253Fitems_with_property%2529%2509%2528COUNT%2528%253Fbestvalue%2529%2520as%2520%253Fuses_of_property%2529%250A%2520%2520%2520%2520%2520%2509%2509%2509WHERE%2520%2509%257B%253Fitem%2520wdt%253AP2315%2520%253Fbestvalue%2520%257D%2520%257D%250AUNION%2520%2509%257B%2509%2509SELECT%2520%2520%2528wikibase%253AstatementProperty%2520as%2520%253Fuse%2529%2509%253Frank%2509%2528COUNT%2528DISTINCT%2528%253Fitem%2529%2529%2520as%2520%253Fitems_with_property%2529%2509%2528COUNT%2528%2528%253Fstatement%2529%2529%2520as%2520%253Fuses_of_property%2529%2520%250A%2509%2509%2509%2509WHERE%2509%257B%253Fitem%2520p%253AP2315%2520%253Fstatement%2520.%2520%2520%250A%2520%2520%2520%2520%2520%2520%2520%2520%2520%2520%2520%2520%2520%2520%2520%2520%2520%2520%2520%2520%2520%2520%2520%2520%2520%253Fstatement%2520wikibase%253Arank%2520%253Frank%2520%257D%250A%2509%2509%2509%2509%2509%2509GROUP%2520BY%2520%253Frank%2520%257D%250AUNION%2509%257B%2509%2509SELECT%2520%2509%2528wikibase%253Areference%2520as%2520%253Fuse%2529%2509%2509%2509%2528COUNT%2528DISTINCT%2528%253Fitem%2529%2529%2520as%2520%253Fitems_with_property%2529%2509%2528COUNT%2528%253Fvalue%2529%2520as%2520%253Fuses_of_property%2529%250A%2520%2520%2520%2520%2520%2509%2509%2509WHERE%2520%2509%257B%253Fitem%2520pr%253AP2315%2520%253Fvalue%2520%257D%257D%250AUNION%2509%257B%2509%2509SELECT%2520%2509%2528wikibase%253Aqualifier%2520as%2520%253Fuse%2529%2509%2509%2509%2528COUNT%2528DISTINCT%2528%253Fitem%2529%2529%2520as%2520%253Fitems_with_property%2529%2509%2528COUNT%2528%253Fvalue%2529%2520as%2520%253Fuses_of_property%2529%250A%2520%2520%2520%2520%2520%2509%2509%2509WHERE%2520%2509%257B%253Fitem%2520pq%253AP2315%2520%253Fvalue%2520%257D%257D%250A%257D%250AORDER%2520BY%2520DESC%2528%253Fuse%2529%2520DESC%2528%253Fitems_with_property%2529%2520%253Frank%250A%250A%2523PLEASE%2520NOTE%253A%2520Deleted%2520items%2520appear%2520in%2520counts%2520for%2520some%2520ranks%252C%2520but%2520not%2520in%2520others.">these remaining uses</a> would it replace? -- <i> <a href="https://www-wikidata-org.translate.goog/wiki/User:Laddo?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User:Laddo">LaddΩ</a></i> <a href="https://www-wikidata-org.translate.goog/wiki/User_talk:Laddo?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User talk:Laddo"><i><small>chat </small></i>;)</a> <a href="https://www-wikidata-org.translate.goog/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Property_constraint_comment?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB#c-Laddo-2016-08-05T20:19:00.000Z-Jura1-2016-07-02T08:40:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:19, 5 August 2016 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Laddo-2016-08-05T20:19:00.000Z-Jura1-2016-07-02T08:40:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="https://www-wikidata-org.translate.goog/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Property_constraint_comment?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Laddo-2016-08-05T20:19:00.000Z-Jura1-2016-07-02T08:40:00.000Z"></span> <ul> <li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Jura1-2016-08-05T21:04:00.000Z-Laddo-2016-08-05T20:19:00.000Z"></span>Comments like the ones you inserted <a class="external text" href="https://www-wikidata-org.translate.goog/w/index.php?title=Property_talk:P839&diff=prev&oldid=352135771&_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB">here</a>. Archive #40 above explains the original purpose of these properties. <br> --- <a href="https://www-wikidata-org.translate.goog/wiki/User_talk:Jura1?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User talk:Jura1">Jura</a> <a href="https://www-wikidata-org.translate.goog/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Property_constraint_comment?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB#c-Jura1-2016-08-05T21:04:00.000Z-Laddo-2016-08-05T20:19:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:04, 5 August 2016 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Jura1-2016-08-05T21:04:00.000Z-Laddo-2016-08-05T20:19:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="https://www-wikidata-org.translate.goog/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Property_constraint_comment?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Jura1-2016-08-05T21:04:00.000Z-Laddo-2016-08-05T20:19:00.000Z"></span> <ul> <li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Pigsonthewing-2016-08-06T17:36:00.000Z-Jura1-2016-08-05T21:04:00.000Z"></span>That would be better added as a parameter to <code>{{<a href="https://www-wikidata-org.translate.goog/wiki/Template:Constraint?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="Template:Constraint">Constraint</a>}}</code>. <span class="vcard"><span class="fn"><a href="https://www-wikidata-org.translate.goog/wiki/User:Pigsonthewing?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User:Pigsonthewing">Andy Mabbett</a></span> (<span class="nickname">Pigsonthewing</span>); <a href="https://www-wikidata-org.translate.goog/wiki/User_talk:Pigsonthewing?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User talk:Pigsonthewing">Talk to Andy</a>; <a href="https://www-wikidata-org.translate.goog/wiki/Special:Contributions/Pigsonthewing?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="Special:Contributions/Pigsonthewing">Andy's edits</a></span> <a href="https://www-wikidata-org.translate.goog/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Property_constraint_comment?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB#c-Pigsonthewing-2016-08-06T17:36:00.000Z-Jura1-2016-08-05T21:04:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:36, 6 August 2016 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Pigsonthewing-2016-08-06T17:36:00.000Z-Jura1-2016-08-05T21:04:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="https://www-wikidata-org.translate.goog/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Property_constraint_comment?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Pigsonthewing-2016-08-06T17:36:00.000Z-Jura1-2016-08-05T21:04:00.000Z"></span></li> <li><a href="https://www-wikidata-org.translate.goog/wiki/Property:P2916?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="Property:P2916"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Thryduulf-2016-08-07T20:20:00.000Z-Jura1-2016-08-05T21:04:00.000Z"></span>syntax clarification <small dir="ltr">(P2916)</small></a> does that job. <a href="https://www-wikidata-org.translate.goog/wiki/User:Thryduulf?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User:Thryduulf">Thryduulf</a> (<a href="https://www-wikidata-org.translate.goog/wiki/User_talk:Thryduulf?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User talk:Thryduulf"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www-wikidata-org.translate.goog/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Property_constraint_comment?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB#c-Thryduulf-2016-08-07T20:20:00.000Z-Jura1-2016-08-05T21:04:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:20, 7 August 2016 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Thryduulf-2016-08-07T20:20:00.000Z-Jura1-2016-08-05T21:04:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="https://www-wikidata-org.translate.goog/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Property_constraint_comment?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Thryduulf-2016-08-07T20:20:00.000Z-Jura1-2016-08-05T21:04:00.000Z"></span> <ul> <li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Jura1-2016-08-10T12:36:00.000Z-Thryduulf-2016-08-07T20:20:00.000Z"></span>If any comment about the function or purpose of constraint qualifies as a "syntax clarification", then I think this meets the initial purpose of "comment" and I'd withdraw this proposal. <br> --- <a href="https://www-wikidata-org.translate.goog/wiki/User_talk:Jura1?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User talk:Jura1">Jura</a> <a href="https://www-wikidata-org.translate.goog/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Property_constraint_comment?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB#c-Jura1-2016-08-10T12:36:00.000Z-Thryduulf-2016-08-07T20:20:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:36, 10 August 2016 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Jura1-2016-08-10T12:36:00.000Z-Thryduulf-2016-08-07T20:20:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="https://www-wikidata-org.translate.goog/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Property_constraint_comment?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Jura1-2016-08-10T12:36:00.000Z-Thryduulf-2016-08-07T20:20:00.000Z"></span></li> </ul></li> </ul></li> </ul></li> </ul> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Srittau-2016-08-23T12:23:00.000Z-Property_constraint_comment"></span>@<a href="https://www-wikidata-org.translate.goog/wiki/User:Jura1?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User:Jura1"><bdi>Jura1</bdi></a>, <a href="https://www-wikidata-org.translate.goog/wiki/User:Thryduulf?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User:Thryduulf"><bdi>Thryduulf</bdi></a>, <a href="https://www-wikidata-org.translate.goog/wiki/User:Laddo?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User:Laddo"><bdi>Laddo</bdi></a>, <a href="https://www-wikidata-org.translate.goog/wiki/User:Pigsonthewing?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User:Pigsonthewing"><bdi>Pigsonthewing</bdi></a>: <span typeof="mw:File"><span><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a2/X_mark.svg/15px-X_mark.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="17" class="mw-file-element" srcset="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a2/X_mark.svg/23px-X_mark.svg.png 1.5x,https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a2/X_mark.svg/30px-X_mark.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="525" data-file-height="600"></span></span><b> Not done</b>, no consensus. Maybe a properly formatted proposal with actual examples would help. --<a href="https://www-wikidata-org.translate.goog/wiki/User:Srittau?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User:Srittau">Srittau</a> (<a href="https://www-wikidata-org.translate.goog/wiki/User_talk:Srittau?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User talk:Srittau"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www-wikidata-org.translate.goog/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Property_constraint_comment?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB#c-Srittau-2016-08-23T12:23:00.000Z-Property_constraint_comment" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:23, 23 August 2016 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Srittau-2016-08-23T12:23:00.000Z-Property_constraint_comment"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" 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