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id="firstHeading" class="firstHeading mw-first-heading">User talk:Msasag</h1> <div id="bodyContent" class="vector-body"> <div id="siteSub" class="noprint">From Wiktionary, the free dictionary</div> <div id="contentSub"><div id="mw-content-subtitle"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-pageframe-latestcomment">Latest comment: <a href="#c-Msasag-20240620152800-Apocheir-20240618211900">5 months ago</a> by Msasag in topic <a href="#Request_for_help">Request for help</a></div></div></div> <div id="contentSub2"></div> <div id="jump-to-nav"></div> <a class="mw-jump-link" href="#mw-head">Jump to navigation</a> <a class="mw-jump-link" href="#searchInput">Jump to search</a> <div id="mw-content-text" class="mw-body-content"><div class="mw-content-ltr mw-parser-output" lang="en" dir="ltr"><div id="toc" class="toc" role="navigation" aria-labelledby="mw-toc-heading"><input type="checkbox" role="button" id="toctogglecheckbox" class="toctogglecheckbox" style="display:none" /><div class="toctitle" 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class="toclevel-1 tocsection-9"><a href="#Omniglot_-_Assamese">10 Omniglot - Assamese</a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-10"><a href="#Wiktionary:Requested_entries_(Assamese)">11 Wiktionary:Requested entries (Assamese)</a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-11"><a href="#Category:English_terms_derived_from_Assamese">12 Category:English terms derived from Assamese</a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-12"><a href="#Sylheti">13 Sylheti</a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-13"><a href="#Formatting">14 Formatting</a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-14"><a href="#Eastern_Nagari_script_for_Sanskrit">15 Eastern Nagari script for Sanskrit</a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-15"><a href="#{{t+}}">16 {{t+}}</a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-16"><a href="#world">17 world</a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-17"><a href="#Community_Insights_Survey">18 Community Insights Survey</a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-18"><a href="#Reminder:_Community_Insights_Survey">19 Reminder: Community Insights Survey</a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-19"><a href="#Reminder:_Community_Insights_Survey_2">20 Reminder: Community Insights Survey</a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-20"><a href="#Quotations_in_old_languages">21 Quotations in old languages</a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-21"><a href="#Ancestors_of_Vaṅgīya_languages">22 Ancestors of Vaṅgīya languages</a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-22"><a href="#Avahattha">23 Avahattha</a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-23"><a href="#॥">24 ॥</a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-24"><a href="#Assamese_references">25 Assamese references</a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-25"><a href="#Template_categorization">26 Template categorization</a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-26"><a href="#Three_Number_Lists">27 Three Number Lists</a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-27"><a href="#Request_for_help">28 Request for help</a></li> </ul> </div> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Welcome_Message" data-mw-thread-id="h-Welcome_Message">Welcome Message</h2>[<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Msasag&action=edit&section=1" title="Edit section: Welcome Message">edit</a>]</div> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Welcome" data-mw-thread-id="h-Welcome-2017-08-09T19:21:00.000Z">Welcome</h2>[<a href="/w/index.php?title=Template:welcome&action=edit&section=T-1" title="Edit section: Welcome">edit</a>]<div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata">Latest comment: <a href="#c-Lo_Ximiendo-2017-08-09T19:21:00.000Z-Welcome">7 years ago</a>1 comment1 person in discussion</div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> Hello, <a href="/wiki/Wiktionary:Welcome,_newcomers" title="Wiktionary:Welcome, newcomers">welcome to Wiktionary</a>, and thank you for your contributions so far. 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Peace be upon thee. --<a href="/wiki/User:Lo_Ximiendo" title="User:Lo Ximiendo">Lo Ximiendo</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Lo_Ximiendo" title="User talk:Lo Ximiendo">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/User_talk:Msasag#c-Lo_Ximiendo-2017-08-11T21:11:00.000Z-Mischaracterized_Sylheti_Entries" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:11, 11 August 2017 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-2" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Contributions" data-mw-thread-id="h-Contributions-2017-08-18T20:56:00.000Z">Contributions</h2>[<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Msasag&action=edit&section=3" title="Edit section: Contributions">edit</a>]<div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata">Latest comment: <a href="#c-Lo_Ximiendo-2017-10-26T06:56:00.000Z-Aryamanarora-2017-08-18T20:56:00.000Z">7 years ago</a>2 comments2 people in discussion</div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> Thanks so much for Sylheti and Assamese contributions! We are in need of more South Asian editors... Would you mind putting a <code style="white-space:pre-wrap">{{<a href="/wiki/Template:Babel#top" title="Template:Babel">Babel</a>}}</code> on your user page? —<a href="/wiki/User:Aryamanarora" class="mw-redirect" title="User:Aryamanarora">Aryaman</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Aryamanarora" class="mw-redirect" title="User talk:Aryamanarora">मुझसे बात करो</a>) <a href="https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/User_talk:Msasag#c-Aryamanarora-2017-08-18T20:56:00.000Z-Contributions" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:56, 18 August 2017 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-3" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a> <dl><dd>Thanks, sure :)</dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd>Also, think of the following as an opportunity to add more entries or at least red links: <a href="/wiki/Category:Requests_for_translations_into_Assamese" title="Category:Requests for translations into Assamese">Category:Requests for translations into Assamese</a>. --<a href="/wiki/User:Lo_Ximiendo" title="User:Lo Ximiendo">Lo Ximiendo</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Lo_Ximiendo" title="User talk:Lo Ximiendo">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/User_talk:Msasag#c-Lo_Ximiendo-2017-10-26T06:56:00.000Z-Aryamanarora-2017-08-18T20:56:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">06:56, 26 October 2017 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-4" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Assamese_মা_(ma)" data-mw-thread-id="h-Assamese_মা_(ma)-2017-08-24T14:17:00.000Z"><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assamese_language" class="extiw" title="w:Assamese language">Assamese</a> <a href="/wiki/%E0%A6%AE%E0%A6%BE#Assamese" title="মা">মা</a> (ma)</h2>[<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Msasag&action=edit&section=4" title="Edit section: Assamese মা (ma)">edit</a>]<div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata">Latest comment: <a href="#c-Aryamanarora-2017-08-24T14:17:00.000Z-Assamese_মা_(ma)">7 years ago</a>1 comment1 person in discussion</div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> Could you make this entry? Thanks. —<a href="/wiki/User:Aryamanarora" class="mw-redirect" title="User:Aryamanarora">Aryaman</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Aryamanarora" class="mw-redirect" title="User talk:Aryamanarora">मुझसे बात करो</a>) <a href="https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/User_talk:Msasag#c-Aryamanarora-2017-08-24T14:17:00.000Z-Assamese_মা_(ma)" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:17, 24 August 2017 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-5" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Assamese_declension_template" data-mw-thread-id="h-Assamese_declension_template-2017-08-30T13:56:00.000Z">Assamese declension template</h2>[<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Msasag&action=edit&section=5" title="Edit section: Assamese declension template">edit</a>]<div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata">Latest comment: <a href="#c-Aryamanarora-2017-09-15T19:04:00.000Z-Aryamanarora-2017-09-15T18:53:00.000Z">7 years ago</a>4 comments1 person in discussion</div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> It would be nice to have <code style="white-space:pre-wrap">{{<a href="/wiki/Template:as-decl-noun#top" title="Template:as-decl-noun">as-decl-noun</a>}}</code> instead of inline declension. I'll make it, but I need to know how the plural number in Assamese work. Is it marked? —<a href="/wiki/User:Aryamanarora" class="mw-redirect" title="User:Aryamanarora">Aryaman</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Aryamanarora" class="mw-redirect" title="User talk:Aryamanarora">मुझसे बात करो</a>) <a href="https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/User_talk:Msasag#c-Aryamanarora-2017-08-30T13:56:00.000Z-Assamese_declension_template" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:56, 30 August 2017 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-6" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a> Hi, is it same as Bengali inflection table? --- <a href="/wiki/User:Sagir_Ahmed_Msa" class="mw-redirect" title="User:Sagir Ahmed Msa">Sagir</a> <ul><li>Example: phul (flower) and gôru (cow) and gari (car)</li> <li>Indefinite:</li> <li>Nominative: phul / gôru / gari</li> <li>Objective: phul, phul-ôk / gôru, gôru-k / gari, gari-k</li> <li>Genitive: phul-ôr / gôru-r / gari-r</li> <li>Locative: phul-ôt / gôru-r ga-t (-r = of, ga = body, -t = in/on/at) / gari-t</li> <li>Ergative: phul-ê / gôru-ê / gari-ê</li> <li>Definite:</li></ul> (Assamese has many classifiers, so it's difficult. But some dominant Classifiers can be used instead) <ul><li>Nominative: Phul-pah (main Classifier, alternative dominant Classifier: phul-tû) -- phul-kêi-pah (phul-kêi-ta) [plural] / gôru-tû -- gôru-kêi-ta / gari-khôn (-khôn is the dominant classifier for small flat; and big objects) -- gari-kêi-khôn</li> <li>Objective: (same as nominative "or") phul-pah-ôk (phul-tû-k) -- phul-kêi-pah-ôk (phul-kêi-ta-k) / gôru-tû-k -- gôru-kêi-ta-k / gari-khôn-ôk -- gari-kêi-khôn-ôk</li> <li>Genitive: phul-pah-ôr (phul-tû-r) -- phul-kêi-pah-ôr (phul-kêi-ta-r) / gôru-tû-r -- gôru-kêi-ta-r / gari-khôn-ôr -- gari-kêi-khôn-ôr</li> <li>Location: phul-pah-ôt (phul-tû-t) -- phul-kêi-pah-ôt (phul-kêi-ta-t) / gôru-tû-t (or gôru-tû-r-ga-t) -- gôru-kêi-ta-t (or gôru-kêi-ta-r ga-t) / gari-khôn-ôt -- gari-kêi-khôn-ôt</li> <li>Ergative: phul-pah-ê (phul-tû-ê) -- phul-kêi-pah-ê (phul-kêi-ta-i) / gôru-tû-ê -- gôru-kêi-ta-i / gari-khôn-ê -- gari-kêi-khôn-ê</li></ul> (Note, since Assamese is written in an abugida, when no vowel is present "ô" (the inherent vowel) comes. The ergative -ê becomes -i after a-, ô- , o-) <dl><dd>Hmmm, this is useful. So the classifier is only used in plural cases then? I'll make a simple declension template. —<a href="/wiki/User:Aryamanarora" class="mw-redirect" title="User:Aryamanarora">Aryaman</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Aryamanarora" class="mw-redirect" title="User talk:Aryamanarora">मुझसे बात करो</a>) <a href="https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/User_talk:Msasag#c-Aryamanarora-2017-09-15T18:53:00.000Z-Assamese_declension_template" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:53, 15 September 2017 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-7" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a></dd> <dd>Oh, I misunderstood, it's used for definite cases. So is the plural marked at all? —<a href="/wiki/User:Aryamanarora" class="mw-redirect" title="User:Aryamanarora">Aryaman</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Aryamanarora" class="mw-redirect" title="User talk:Aryamanarora">मुझसे बात करो</a>) <a href="https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/User_talk:Msasag#c-Aryamanarora-2017-09-15T18:54:00.000Z-Aryamanarora-2017-09-15T18:53:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:54, 15 September 2017 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-8" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a></dd> <dd>Once again, I misunderstood... only definitive plural is marked with -কেই then. —<a href="/wiki/User:Aryamanarora" class="mw-redirect" title="User:Aryamanarora">Aryaman</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Aryamanarora" class="mw-redirect" title="User talk:Aryamanarora">मुझसे बात करो</a>) <a href="https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/User_talk:Msasag#c-Aryamanarora-2017-09-15T19:04:00.000Z-Aryamanarora-2017-09-15T18:53:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:04, 15 September 2017 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-9" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="{{syn}}" data-mw-thread-id="h-{{syn}}-2017-10-21T03:33:00.000Z"><code style="white-space:pre-wrap">{{<a href="/wiki/Template:synonyms#top" title="Template:synonyms">syn</a>}}</code></h2>[<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Msasag&action=edit&section=6" title="Edit section: {{syn}}">edit</a>]<div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata">Latest comment: <a href="#c-DTLHS-2017-10-21T03:33:00.000Z-{{syn}}">7 years ago</a>1 comment1 person in discussion</div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> If you are using this template please start the line with #: <a href="/wiki/User:DTLHS" title="User:DTLHS">DTLHS</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:DTLHS" title="User talk:DTLHS">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/User_talk:Msasag#c-DTLHS-2017-10-21T03:33:00.000Z-{{syn}}" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">03:33, 21 October 2017 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-10" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Wiktionary:Sylheti_transliteration" data-mw-thread-id="h-Wiktionary:Sylheti_transliteration-2017-10-21T09:32:00.000Z"><a href="/wiki/Wiktionary:Sylheti_transliteration" title="Wiktionary:Sylheti transliteration">Wiktionary:Sylheti transliteration</a></h2>[<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Msasag&action=edit&section=7" title="Edit section: Wiktionary:Sylheti transliteration">edit</a>]<div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata">Latest comment: <a href="#c-Lo_Ximiendo-2017-10-21T09:32:00.000Z-Wiktionary:Sylheti_transliteration">7 years ago</a>1 comment1 person in discussion</div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> I wonder if you or <a href="/wiki/User:DerekWinters" title="User:DerekWinters">DerekWinters</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:DerekWinters" title="User talk:DerekWinters">talk</a> • <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/DerekWinters" title="Special:Contributions/DerekWinters">contribs</a>) will ever create <a href="/wiki/Wiktionary:Sylheti_transliteration" title="Wiktionary:Sylheti transliteration">Wiktionary:Sylheti transliteration</a>, similar to <a href="/wiki/Wiktionary:Assamese_transliteration" title="Wiktionary:Assamese transliteration">Wiktionary:Assamese transliteration</a>. --<a href="/wiki/User:Lo_Ximiendo" title="User:Lo Ximiendo">Lo Ximiendo</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Lo_Ximiendo" title="User talk:Lo Ximiendo">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/User_talk:Msasag#c-Lo_Ximiendo-2017-10-21T09:32:00.000Z-Wiktionary:Sylheti_transliteration" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:32, 21 October 2017 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-11" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a> <dl><dd>@<a href="/wiki/User:Lo_Ximiendo" title="User:Lo Ximiendo">Lo Ximiendo</a>: Lemme try</dd></dl> -- <a href="/wiki/User:Sagir_Ahmed_Msa" class="mw-redirect" title="User:Sagir Ahmed Msa">MSA</a> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="श्वास_(śvāsa)" data-mw-thread-id="h-श्वास_(śvāsa)-2018-02-18T22:42:00.000Z"><a href="/wiki/%E0%A4%B6%E0%A5%8D%E0%A4%B5%E0%A4%BE%E0%A4%B8#Sanskrit" title="श्वास">श्वास</a> (śvāsa)</h2>[<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Msasag&action=edit&section=8" title="Edit section: श्वास (śvāsa)">edit</a>]<div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata">Latest comment: <a href="#c-AryamanA-2018-02-21T19:45:00.000Z-AryamanA-2018-02-18T22:42:00.000Z">6 years ago</a>2 comments1 person in discussion</div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> The ancestor of the Eastern Indo-Aryan languages is Magadhi Prakrit (we have a special code, <code>inc-mgd</code>). Ardhamagadhi Prakrit is actually the ancestor of Eastern Hindi, for example Awadhi. It has been mixed up here for a while, since the names are similar. —<a href="/wiki/User:AryamanA" title="User:AryamanA">AryamanA</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Aryamanarora" class="mw-redirect" title="User talk:Aryamanarora">मुझसे बात करें</a> • <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/AryamanA" title="Special:Contributions/AryamanA">योगदान</a>) <a href="https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/User_talk:Msasag#c-AryamanA-2018-02-18T22:42:00.000Z-श्वास_(śvāsa)" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:42, 18 February 2018 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-12" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a> <dl><dd>For alternative forms you can use <code style="white-space:pre-wrap">{{<a href="/wiki/Template:alternative_form_of#top" title="Template:alternative form of">altform</a>|শব্দ|lang=as}}</code>. —<a href="/wiki/User:AryamanA" title="User:AryamanA">AryamanA</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Aryamanarora" class="mw-redirect" title="User talk:Aryamanarora">मुझसे बात करें</a> • <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/AryamanA" title="Special:Contributions/AryamanA">योगदान</a>) <a href="https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/User_talk:Msasag#c-AryamanA-2018-02-21T19:45:00.000Z-AryamanA-2018-02-18T22:42:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:45, 21 February 2018 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-13" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Omniglot_-_Assamese" data-mw-thread-id="h-Omniglot_-_Assamese-2018-02-23T22:27:00.000Z">Omniglot - Assamese</h2>[<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Msasag&action=edit&section=9" title="Edit section: Omniglot - Assamese">edit</a>]<div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata">Latest comment: <a href="#c-AryamanA-2018-02-26T14:04:00.000Z-Per_utramque_cavernam-2018-02-26T10:30:00.000Z">6 years ago</a>6 comments3 people in discussion</div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> "<a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.omniglot.com/writing/assamese.htm">Hear recording of this text by Md. Sagir Ahmed (মঃ চাগিৰ আহমেদ) from Assam, India.</a>" Man, is that you? :-) --<a href="/wiki/User:Per_utramque_cavernam" title="User:Per utramque cavernam">Per utramque cavernam</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Per_utramque_cavernam" title="User talk:Per utramque cavernam">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/User_talk:Msasag#c-Per_utramque_cavernam-2018-02-23T22:27:00.000Z-Omniglot_-_Assamese" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:27, 23 February 2018 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-14" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a> @<a href="/wiki/User:Per_utramque_cavernam" title="User:Per utramque cavernam">Per utramque cavernam</a> Yes, that's me in 2015 XD. I have to improve the text in IPA. -- <a href="/wiki/User:Sagir_Ahmed_Msa" class="mw-redirect" title="User:Sagir Ahmed Msa">Sagir</a> <dl><dd>Ahah, awesome, and the audio quality is good.<a href="#cite_note-1">[1]</a> Would you consider recording some words on commons? It's <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Assamese_pronunciation" class="extiw" title="commons:Category:Assamese pronunciation">virgin territory entirely</a> (compare <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Bengali_pronunciation" class="extiw" title="commons:Category:Bengali pronunciation">Bengali</a>). --<a href="/wiki/User:Per_utramque_cavernam" title="User:Per utramque cavernam">Per utramque cavernam</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Per_utramque_cavernam" title="User talk:Per utramque cavernam">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/User_talk:Msasag#c-Per_utramque_cavernam-2018-02-24T09:57:00.000Z-Omniglot_-_Assamese" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:57, 24 February 2018 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-15" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a></dd></dl> <div class="mw-references-wrap"><ol class="references"> <li id="cite_note-1"><a href="#cite_ref-1"> ^ </a> Can't say the same for <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.omniglot.com/writing/marathi.htm">the Marathi recording</a>, which sounds like it was read underwater... </li> </ol></div> Sure! <a href="/wiki/User:Sagir_Ahmed_Msa" class="mw-redirect" title="User:Sagir Ahmed Msa">Sagir Ahmed Msa</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Sagir_Ahmed_Msa" class="mw-redirect" title="User talk:Sagir Ahmed Msa">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/User_talk:Msasag#c-Sagir_Ahmed_Msa-2018-02-24T11:08:00.000Z-Omniglot_-_Assamese" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:08, 24 February 2018 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-16" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a> <dl><dd>Wow, that's really cool! Yes, Commons has very few audio pronunciations for Indian languages (besides Tamil). You can upload audio with the name <code>File:as-word.ogg</code> (or any other sound file extension) and a bot will add it automatically to the Wiktionary entry. —<a href="/wiki/User:AryamanA" title="User:AryamanA">AryamanA</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Aryamanarora" class="mw-redirect" title="User talk:Aryamanarora">मुझसे बात करें</a> • <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/AryamanA" title="Special:Contributions/AryamanA">योगदान</a>) <a href="https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/User_talk:Msasag#c-AryamanA-2018-02-25T03:48:00.000Z-Sagir_Ahmed_Msa-2018-02-24T11:08:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">03:48, 25 February 2018 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-17" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a></dd></dl> @<a href="/wiki/User:Per_utramque_cavernam" title="User:Per utramque cavernam">per utramque cavernam</a>, @<a href="/wiki/User:AryamanA" title="User:AryamanA">AryamanA</a> I've uploaded some! -- <a href="/wiki/User:Sagir_Ahmed_Msa" class="mw-redirect" title="User:Sagir Ahmed Msa">Sagir</a> <dl><dd>Awesome, thanks! --<a href="/wiki/User:Per_utramque_cavernam" title="User:Per utramque cavernam">Per utramque cavernam</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Per_utramque_cavernam" title="User talk:Per utramque cavernam">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/User_talk:Msasag#c-Per_utramque_cavernam-2018-02-26T10:30:00.000Z-Omniglot_-_Assamese" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:30, 26 February 2018 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-18" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a></dd> <dd>Great! —<a href="/wiki/User:AryamanA" title="User:AryamanA">AryamanA</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Aryamanarora" class="mw-redirect" title="User talk:Aryamanarora">मुझसे बात करें</a> • <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/AryamanA" title="Special:Contributions/AryamanA">योगदान</a>) <a href="https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/User_talk:Msasag#c-AryamanA-2018-02-26T14:04:00.000Z-Per_utramque_cavernam-2018-02-26T10:30:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:04, 26 February 2018 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-19" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Wiktionary:Requested_entries_(Assamese)" data-mw-thread-id="h-Wiktionary:Requested_entries_(Assamese)-2018-03-02T17:08:00.000Z"><a href="/wiki/Wiktionary:Requested_entries_(Assamese)" title="Wiktionary:Requested entries (Assamese)">Wiktionary:Requested entries (Assamese)</a></h2>[<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Msasag&action=edit&section=10" title="Edit section: Wiktionary:Requested entries (Assamese)">edit</a>]<div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata">Latest comment: <a href="#c-Per_utramque_cavernam-2018-03-02T17:08:00.000Z-Wiktionary:Requested_entries_(Assamese)">6 years ago</a>1 comment1 person in discussion</div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> Hello. Is it all right if I put some entries there from time to time (I'll try to stay reasonable)? --<a href="/wiki/User:Per_utramque_cavernam" title="User:Per utramque cavernam">Per utramque cavernam</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Per_utramque_cavernam" title="User talk:Per utramque cavernam">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/User_talk:Msasag#c-Per_utramque_cavernam-2018-03-02T17:08:00.000Z-Wiktionary:Requested_entries_(Assamese)" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:08, 2 March 2018 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-20" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a> <dl><dd>@<a href="/wiki/User:Per_utramque_cavernam" title="User:Per utramque cavernam">Per utramque cavernam</a>: Yeah sure! -- <a href="/wiki/User:Sagir_Ahmed_Msa" class="mw-redirect" title="User:Sagir Ahmed Msa">Sagir</a></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Category:English_terms_derived_from_Assamese" data-mw-thread-id="h-Category:English_terms_derived_from_Assamese-2018-03-08T10:40:00.000Z"><a href="/wiki/Category:English_terms_derived_from_Assamese" title="Category:English terms derived from Assamese">Category:English terms derived from Assamese</a></h2>[<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Msasag&action=edit&section=11" title="Edit section: Category:English terms derived from Assamese">edit</a>]<div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata">Latest comment: <a href="#c-Widsith-2018-03-08T10:40:00.000Z-Category:English_terms_derived_from_Assamese">6 years ago</a>1 comment1 person in discussion</div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> Hi. Thanks very much for your contributions with Assamese – I added several English borrowings from Assamese last year when I was in Assam and reading some translated literature from the region, and I found then that we had very little info from the language on this project, so it's great to see your work. If you get a chance to check some of the entries in <a href="/wiki/Category:English_terms_derived_from_Assamese" title="Category:English terms derived from Assamese">Category:English terms derived from Assamese</a> that would be great, as I see some of them do not have a full etymology there. Thanks again! <a href="/wiki/User:Widsith" title="User:Widsith">Ƿidsiþ</a> <a href="https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/User_talk:Msasag#c-Widsith-2018-03-08T10:40:00.000Z-Category:English_terms_derived_from_Assamese" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:40, 8 March 2018 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-21" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Sylheti" data-mw-thread-id="h-Sylheti-2018-03-18T18:36:00.000Z">Sylheti</h2>[<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Msasag&action=edit&section=12" title="Edit section: Sylheti">edit</a>]<div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata">Latest comment: <a href="#c-DerekWinters-2018-03-18T18:50:00.000Z-Sagir_Ahmed_Msa-2018-03-18T18:42:00.000Z">6 years ago</a>4 comments2 people in discussion</div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> Hello, popping in again for a moment. <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="http://www.isca-speech.org/archive/tal_2014/papers/tl14_010.pdf">1</a> might be of interest to you, particularly the line: "In case of Sylheti, we observed two way tonal contrasts: the emergence of high tone in the vowels following the loss of aspiration, and a low tone elsewhere." So <a href="/wiki/%EA%A0%8A%EA%A0%9E#Sylheti" title="ꠊꠞ">ꠊꠞ</a> (gór), originally ghor, now gor, will have a high tone on the 'o' because it follows the loss of aspiration. Hope this helps. <a href="/wiki/User:DerekWinters" title="User:DerekWinters">DerekWinters</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:DerekWinters" title="User talk:DerekWinters">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/User_talk:Msasag#c-DerekWinters-2018-03-18T18:36:00.000Z-Sylheti" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:36, 18 March 2018 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-22" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a> @<a href="/wiki/User:DerekWinters" title="User:DerekWinters">DerekWinters</a> Great info! Thanks! Should the transliteration be based on the value of the characters or the tones, or the current one is fine? <a href="/wiki/User:Sagir_Ahmed_Msa" class="mw-redirect" title="User:Sagir Ahmed Msa">Sagir Ahmed Msa</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Sagir_Ahmed_Msa" class="mw-redirect" title="User talk:Sagir Ahmed Msa">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/User_talk:Msasag#c-Sagir_Ahmed_Msa-2018-03-18T18:42:00.000Z-Sylheti" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:42, 18 March 2018 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-23" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a> <dl><dd>Honestly, I'm not sure. The current one reflects the phonology of the language, so we can stick to that. But this tone info can be used for the pronunciation sections.</dd> <dd>Also, <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="http://www.sylheti.org.uk/puthis/">1</a> This website has so many examples of Sylheti literature, also with English translations. I hope it helps. <a href="/wiki/User:DerekWinters" title="User:DerekWinters">DerekWinters</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:DerekWinters" title="User talk:DerekWinters">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/User_talk:Msasag#c-DerekWinters-2018-03-18T18:49:00.000Z-Sagir_Ahmed_Msa-2018-03-18T18:42:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:49, 18 March 2018 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-24" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a></dd> <dd>Actually only 4 examples, all on this page <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="http://www.sylheti.org.uk/puthi-examples/">1</a>. <a href="/wiki/User:DerekWinters" title="User:DerekWinters">DerekWinters</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:DerekWinters" title="User talk:DerekWinters">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/User_talk:Msasag#c-DerekWinters-2018-03-18T18:50:00.000Z-Sagir_Ahmed_Msa-2018-03-18T18:42:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:50, 18 March 2018 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-25" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Formatting" data-mw-thread-id="h-Formatting-2018-03-20T02:35:00.000Z">Formatting</h2>[<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Msasag&action=edit&section=13" title="Edit section: Formatting">edit</a>]<div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata">Latest comment: <a href="#c-AryamanA-2018-03-20T02:35:00.000Z-Formatting">6 years ago</a>1 comment1 person in discussion</div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> Just a small thing to remember: "Descendants" and "Derived terms" are level 4 headings (e.g.<code>====Descendants===</code>). Great job on Eastern Indo-Aryan :) —<a href="/wiki/User:AryamanA" title="User:AryamanA">AryamanA</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Aryamanarora" class="mw-redirect" title="User talk:Aryamanarora">मुझसे बात करें</a> • <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/AryamanA" title="Special:Contributions/AryamanA">योगदान</a>) <a href="https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/User_talk:Msasag#c-AryamanA-2018-03-20T02:35:00.000Z-Formatting" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">02:35, 20 March 2018 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-26" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Eastern_Nagari_script_for_Sanskrit" data-mw-thread-id="h-Eastern_Nagari_script_for_Sanskrit-2018-03-25T21:34:00.000Z">Eastern Nagari script for Sanskrit</h2>[<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Msasag&action=edit&section=14" title="Edit section: Eastern Nagari script for Sanskrit">edit</a>]<div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata">Latest comment: <a href="#c-AryamanA-2018-05-27T16:38:00.000Z-DerekWinters-2018-05-27T15:34:00.000Z">6 years ago</a>13 comments3 people in discussion</div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> Hi! I'm not sure if it is the best idea to use Eastern Nagari script to link to Sanskrit words (like you did on some entries), but I agree that on the Sanskrit entries we should have something like <code style="white-space:pre-wrap">{{<a href="/wiki/Template:pi-alt#top" title="Template:pi-alt">pi-alt</a>}}</code> showing different scripts. What do you think? —<a href="/wiki/User:AryamanA" title="User:AryamanA">AryamanA</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Aryamanarora" class="mw-redirect" title="User talk:Aryamanarora">मुझसे बात करें</a> • <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/AryamanA" title="Special:Contributions/AryamanA">योगदान</a>) <a href="https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/User_talk:Msasag#c-AryamanA-2018-03-25T21:34:00.000Z-Eastern_Nagari_script_for_Sanskrit" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:34, 25 March 2018 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-27" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a> @<a href="/wiki/User:AryamanA" title="User:AryamanA">AryamanA</a> Hi, I did that because generally and traditionally Eastern Nagari script has been used to write Sanskrit in Assam (and Bengal). So it helps Assamese speakers and learners to understand the links. Sanskrit is written in many scripts (probably more than Pali) and many variations of the same script, so Assamese alphabet based Sanskrit is slightly different from Bengali alphabet based Sanskrit. <a href="/wiki/User:Msasag" title="User:Msasag">Msasag</a> (<a class="mw-selflink selflink">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/User_talk:Msasag#c-Msasag-2018-03-26T05:59:00.000Z-Eastern_Nagari_script_for_Sanskrit" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">05:59, 26 March 2018 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-28" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a> <dl><dd>@<a href="/wiki/User:Msasag" title="User:Msasag">Msasag</a>: Okay, fine by me. You can use <code style="white-space:pre-wrap">{{<a href="/wiki/Template:inherited#top" title="Template:inherited">inh</a>|as|sa|Devanagari spelling|Assamese spelling}}</code> to link to the Devanagari while showing Eastern Nagari spelling. —<a href="/wiki/User:AryamanA" title="User:AryamanA">AryamanA</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Aryamanarora" class="mw-redirect" title="User talk:Aryamanarora">मुझसे बात करें</a> • <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/AryamanA" title="Special:Contributions/AryamanA">योगदान</a>) <a href="https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/User_talk:Msasag#c-AryamanA-2018-03-26T19:43:00.000Z-Msasag-2018-03-26T05:59:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:43, 26 March 2018 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-29" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a></dd></dl> @<a href="/wiki/User:AryamanA" title="User:AryamanA">AryamanA</a> Thanks, but transliteration isn't supported for the Eastern Nagari spelling: <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sanskrit" class="extiw" title="w:Sanskrit">Sanskrit</a> <a href="/wiki/%E0%A4%AA%E0%A4%A6%E0%A5%8D%E0%A4%AE#Sanskrit" title="पद्म">পদ্ম</a> (padma). <a href="/wiki/User:Msasag" title="User:Msasag">Msasag</a> (<a class="mw-selflink selflink">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/User_talk:Msasag#c-Msasag-2018-03-26T19:50:00.000Z-Eastern_Nagari_script_for_Sanskrit" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:50, 26 March 2018 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-30" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a> Hey! It works now! <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sanskrit" class="extiw" title="w:Sanskrit">Sanskrit</a> <a href="/wiki/%E0%A4%AA%E0%A4%A6%E0%A5%8D%E0%A4%AE#Sanskrit" title="पद्म">পদ্ম</a> (padma). <a href="/wiki/User:DerekWinters" title="User:DerekWinters">DerekWinters</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:DerekWinters" title="User talk:DerekWinters">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/User_talk:Msasag#c-DerekWinters-2018-05-22T01:54:00.000Z-Eastern_Nagari_script_for_Sanskrit" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">01:54, 22 May 2018 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-31" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a> <dl><dd>@<a href="/wiki/User:AryamanA" title="User:AryamanA">AryamanA</a> Can you add as-Beng to the list of scripts for Sanskrit? And can you put the scripts in alphabetical order. I'm slightly OCD. <a href="/wiki/User:DerekWinters" title="User:DerekWinters">DerekWinters</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:DerekWinters" title="User talk:DerekWinters">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/User_talk:Msasag#c-DerekWinters-2018-05-22T02:32:00.000Z-DerekWinters-2018-05-22T01:54:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">02:32, 22 May 2018 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-32" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a></dd> <dd>@<a href="/wiki/User:AryamanA" title="User:AryamanA">AryamanA</a> Repinging in case you missed it. <a href="/wiki/User:DerekWinters" title="User:DerekWinters">DerekWinters</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:DerekWinters" title="User talk:DerekWinters">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/User_talk:Msasag#c-DerekWinters-2018-05-23T00:10:00.000Z-DerekWinters-2018-05-22T01:54:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:10, 23 May 2018 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-33" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a> <dl><dd>@<a href="/wiki/User:DerekWinters" title="User:DerekWinters">DerekWinters</a>: Ah, sorry about that, I saw it but forgot. Done now. —<a href="/wiki/User:AryamanA" title="User:AryamanA">AryamanA</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Aryamanarora" class="mw-redirect" title="User talk:Aryamanarora">मुझसे बात करें</a> • <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/AryamanA" title="Special:Contributions/AryamanA">योगदान</a>) <a href="https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/User_talk:Msasag#c-AryamanA-2018-05-23T01:41:00.000Z-DerekWinters-2018-05-23T00:10:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">01:41, 23 May 2018 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-34" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a></dd></dl></dd></dl> @<a href="/wiki/User:DerekWinters" title="User:DerekWinters">DerekWinters</a>, @<a href="/wiki/User:AryamanA" title="User:AryamanA">AryamanA</a> Eastern Nagari transliteration isn't working now. <a href="/wiki/User:Msasag" title="User:Msasag">Msasag</a> (<a class="mw-selflink selflink">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/User_talk:Msasag#c-Msasag-2018-05-23T02:20:00.000Z-Eastern_Nagari_script_for_Sanskrit" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">02:20, 23 May 2018 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-35" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a> <dl><dd>@<a href="/wiki/User:AryamanA" title="User:AryamanA">AryamanA</a> I'm not sure what went wrong. It's also treating as-Beng as a non-Sanskrit script (compare it and Bengali on <a href="/wiki/%E0%A4%AE%E0%A5%87%E0%A4%98" title="मेघ">मेघ</a>). <a href="/wiki/User:DerekWinters" title="User:DerekWinters">DerekWinters</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:DerekWinters" title="User talk:DerekWinters">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/User_talk:Msasag#c-DerekWinters-2018-05-27T02:31:00.000Z-Msasag-2018-05-23T02:20:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">02:31, 27 May 2018 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-36" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a> <dl><dd>@<a href="/wiki/User:DerekWinters" title="User:DerekWinters">DerekWinters</a>: Basically fixed. What translit module should we use for Assamese-script Sanskrit? I set it to use <a href="/wiki/Module:inc-mas-translit" title="Module:inc-mas-translit">MOD:inc-mas-translit</a> but I don't think that's what we want. —<a href="/wiki/User:AryamanA" title="User:AryamanA">AryamanA</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Aryamanarora" class="mw-redirect" title="User talk:Aryamanarora">मुझसे बात करें</a> • <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/AryamanA" title="Special:Contributions/AryamanA">योगदान</a>) <a href="https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/User_talk:Msasag#c-AryamanA-2018-05-27T14:51:00.000Z-DerekWinters-2018-05-27T02:31:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:51, 27 May 2018 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-37" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a> <dl><dd>@<a href="/wiki/User:AryamanA" title="User:AryamanA">AryamanA</a>: <a href="/w/index.php?title=Module:sa-Pnag-translit&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Module:sa-Pnag-translit (page does not exist)">Module:sa-Pnag-translit</a> (purvi nagari) is designed for both Bengali and Assamese, it should work just fine right? <a href="/wiki/User:DerekWinters" title="User:DerekWinters">DerekWinters</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:DerekWinters" title="User talk:DerekWinters">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/User_talk:Msasag#c-DerekWinters-2018-05-27T15:34:00.000Z-AryamanA-2018-05-27T14:51:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:34, 27 May 2018 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-38" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a> <dl><dd>@<a href="/wiki/User:DerekWinters" title="User:DerekWinters">DerekWinters</a>: I guess it should work. I would prefer it being called <a href="/wiki/Module:sa-Beng-translit" title="Module:sa-Beng-translit">MOD:sa-Beng-translit</a> because <code>Pnag</code> isn't a real script code (and the code <code>Beng</code> covers all Purvi Nagari script variants). —<a href="/wiki/User:AryamanA" title="User:AryamanA">AryamanA</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Aryamanarora" class="mw-redirect" title="User talk:Aryamanarora">मुझसे बात करें</a> • <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/AryamanA" title="Special:Contributions/AryamanA">योगदान</a>) <a href="https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/User_talk:Msasag#c-AryamanA-2018-05-27T16:38:00.000Z-DerekWinters-2018-05-27T15:34:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:38, 27 May 2018 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-39" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="{{t+}}" data-mw-thread-id="h-{{t+}}-2018-06-05T02:45:00.000Z"><tt>{{<a href="/wiki/Template:t%2B" title="Template:t+">t+</a>}}</tt></h2>[<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Msasag&action=edit&section=15" title="Edit section: {{t+}}">edit</a>]<div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata">Latest comment: <a href="#c-Ruakh-2018-06-05T02:45:00.000Z-{{t+}}">6 years ago</a>1 comment1 person in discussion</div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> FYI, <code style="white-space:pre-wrap">{{<a href="/wiki/Template:t%2B#top" title="Template:t+">t+</a>}}</code> is only for cases where the other-language Wiktionary has an entry. (Hence the superscript link that it generates to that entry.) When there's no such entry, please use <code style="white-space:pre-wrap">{{<a href="/wiki/Template:t#top" title="Template:t">t</a>}}</code>. Thanks in advance! —<a href="/wiki/User:Ruakh" title="User:Ruakh">Ruakh</a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Ruakh" title="User talk:Ruakh">TALK</a> <a href="https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/User_talk:Msasag#c-Ruakh-2018-06-05T02:45:00.000Z-{{t+}}" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">02:45, 5 June 2018 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-40" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="world" data-mw-thread-id="h-world-2019-03-14T07:23:00.000Z"><a href="/wiki/world" title="world">world</a></h2>[<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Msasag&action=edit&section=16" title="Edit section: world">edit</a>]<div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata">Latest comment: <a href="#c-Atitarev-2019-03-14T18:57:00.000Z-Msasag-2019-03-14T18:12:00.000Z">5 years ago</a>3 comments2 people in discussion</div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> Hi, Could you please add the Assamese translation when you have a chance? --<a href="/wiki/User:Atitarev" title="User:Atitarev">Anatoli T.</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Atitarev" title="User talk:Atitarev">обсудить</a>/<a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Atitarev" title="Special:Contributions/Atitarev">вклад</a>) <a href="https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/User_talk:Msasag#c-Atitarev-2019-03-14T07:23:00.000Z-world" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">07:23, 14 March 2019 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-41" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a> @<a href="/wiki/User:Atitarev" title="User:Atitarev">Atitarev</a> Done! <a href="/wiki/User:Msasag" title="User:Msasag">Msasag</a> (<a class="mw-selflink selflink">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/User_talk:Msasag#c-Msasag-2019-03-14T18:12:00.000Z-world" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:12, 14 March 2019 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-42" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a> <dl><dd>Thanks! --<a href="/wiki/User:Atitarev" title="User:Atitarev">Anatoli T.</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Atitarev" title="User talk:Atitarev">обсудить</a>/<a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Atitarev" title="Special:Contributions/Atitarev">вклад</a>) <a href="https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/User_talk:Msasag#c-Atitarev-2019-03-14T18:57:00.000Z-Msasag-2019-03-14T18:12:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:57, 14 March 2019 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-43" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Community_Insights_Survey" data-mw-thread-id="h-Community_Insights_Survey-2019-09-09T14:34:00.000Z">Community Insights Survey</h2>[<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Msasag&action=edit&section=17" title="Edit section: Community Insights Survey">edit</a>]<div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata">Latest comment: <a href="#c-RMaung_(WMF)-2019-09-09T14:34:00.000Z-Community_Insights_Survey">5 years ago</a>1 comment1 person in discussion</div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <div class="plainlinks mw-content-ltr" lang="en" dir="ltr"> Share your experience in this survey Hi Msasag, The Wikimedia Foundation is asking for your feedback in a survey about your experience with Wiktionary and Wikimedia. 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Sincerely, </div> <a href="/wiki/User:RMaung_(WMF)" title="User:RMaung (WMF)">RMaung (WMF)</a> <a href="https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/User_talk:Msasag#c-RMaung_(WMF)-2019-10-04T17:04:00.000Z-Reminder:_Community_Insights_Survey_2" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:04, 4 October 2019 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-46" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Quotations_in_old_languages" data-mw-thread-id="h-Quotations_in_old_languages-2020-08-11T15:20:00.000Z">Quotations in old languages</h2>[<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Msasag&action=edit&section=20" title="Edit section: Quotations in old languages">edit</a>]<div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata">Latest comment: <a href="#c-Msasag-2020-08-11T15:54:00.000Z-Lbdñk-2020-08-11T15:20:00.000Z">4 years ago</a>2 comments2 people in discussion</div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> I have seen that you have been putting quotations in Early Assamese & Kamarupi Prakrit entries, but as these do not have the author name, book name, date and other bibliographical information, these are getting categorized as usage examples. An example of how to do the formatting can be seen in <a href="/wiki/%F0%91%80%87%F0%91%80%A5" title="𑀇𑀥">this entry</a>. Thanks. —<a href="/wiki/User:Lbd%C3%B1k" class="mw-redirect" title="User:Lbdñk">inqilābī</a> [<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Lbd%C3%B1k" class="mw-redirect" title="User talk:Lbdñk">inqilāb</a> <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Lbd%C3%B1k" title="Special:Contributions/Lbdñk">zindabād</a>] <a href="https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/User_talk:Msasag#c-Lbdñk-2020-08-11T15:20:00.000Z-Quotations_in_old_languages" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:20, 11 August 2020 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-47" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a> <dl><dd>@<a href="/wiki/User:Lbd%C3%B1k" class="mw-redirect" title="User:Lbdñk">Lbdñk</a> Ok, I'll try to add. <a href="/wiki/User:Msasag" title="User:Msasag">Msasag</a> (<a class="mw-selflink selflink">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/User_talk:Msasag#c-Msasag-2020-08-11T15:54:00.000Z-Lbdñk-2020-08-11T15:20:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:54, 11 August 2020 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-48" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Ancestors_of_Vaṅgīya_languages" data-mw-thread-id="h-Ancestors_of_Vaṅgīya_languages-2021-05-07T19:12:00.000Z">Ancestors of Vaṅgīya languages</h2>[<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Msasag&action=edit&section=21" title="Edit section: Ancestors of Vaṅgīya languages">edit</a>]<div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata">Latest comment: <a href="#c-Msasag-2021-06-08T05:01:00.000Z-Inqilābī-2021-06-08T03:26:00.000Z">3 years ago</a>10 comments2 people in discussion</div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> Hi. Are you okay with having such languages as Sylheti, Chittagonian, Rohingya, and Chakma as descendants of Old Bengali, and possibly also Middle Bengali? If so, then these would only be sister languages of New Bengali (status quo), but would also be getting new ancestor languages: and this change would be reflected in our etymologies as well as the descendants section. Looking forward to your thoughts on this. Thank you. -<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Inqil%C4%81b%C4%AB" title="User talk:Inqilābī">⸘</a>- <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Inqil%C4%81b%C4%AB&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Inqilābī (page does not exist)">dictātor</a>·<a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Inqil%C4%81b%C4%AB" title="Special:Contributions/Inqilābī">mundī</a> <a href="https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/User_talk:Msasag#c-Inqilābī-2021-05-07T19:12:00.000Z-Ancestors_of_Vaṅgīya_languages" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:12, 7 May 2021 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-49" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a> <dl><dd>@<a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Inqil%C4%81b%C4%AB&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Inqilābī (page does not exist)">Inqilābī</a> Actually there's a problem with the categories Old Bengali, Kamarupi Prakrit, Old Odia and probably Old Bihari (or Bhojpuri, Maithili etc). They all mean just different dialects of the same language, Eastern Apabhramsa or Abahattha. Hence anything from Charyapada can be added for any of these varieties from 6th-12th century. Now, with this, I guess we can consider Sylheti, Chittagonian, Chakma, Rohingya as descendants of the Old Bengali dialect. But probably not Middle Bengali since they developed distinct features by that time. <a href="/wiki/User:Msasag" title="User:Msasag">Msasag</a> (<a class="mw-selflink selflink">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/User_talk:Msasag#c-Msasag-2021-05-07T23:53:00.000Z-Inqilābī-2021-05-07T19:12:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:53, 7 May 2021 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-50" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a> <dl><dd>Well, ‘Bengali’ here covers all Vaṅgīya (East Bengali) varieties other than the fullfledged languages here (Sylheti, Chittagonian, Chakma, Rohingya). Middle Bengali itself has vocabulary specific to the Vaṅga region. So if these languages can be considered to be descendants of Old Bengali, I see no problem with having Middle Bengali as an ancestor also (unless these languages have their own specific earlier forms). -<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Inqil%C4%81b%C4%AB" title="User talk:Inqilābī">⸘</a>- <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Inqil%C4%81b%C4%AB&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Inqilābī (page does not exist)">dictātor</a>·<a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Inqil%C4%81b%C4%AB" title="Special:Contributions/Inqilābī">mundī</a> <a href="https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/User_talk:Msasag#c-Inqilābī-2021-05-08T10:29:00.000Z-Msasag-2021-05-07T23:53:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:29, 8 May 2021 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-51" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a></dd></dl></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd>@<a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Inqil%C4%81b%C4%AB&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Inqilābī (page does not exist)">Inqilābī</a> The terms Old Bengali and Middle Bengali also covers Rarhi and Varendi dialects I guess, not just the Vangiya ones. I think that's why it's better to give the 14th-16th century ancestors of Sylheti, Chittagonian, Chakma etc different languages. Similar to how we have Early Assamese for Eastern Kamarupi (Assamese) and Proto Kamta for Western Kamarupi (Kamtapuri). <a href="/wiki/User:Msasag" title="User:Msasag">Msasag</a> (<a class="mw-selflink selflink">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/User_talk:Msasag#c-Msasag-2021-05-09T03:42:00.000Z-Inqilābī-2021-05-08T10:29:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">03:42, 9 May 2021 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-52" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a> <dl><dd>Well, if you are against having Middle Bengali as an ancestor of these languages, then we need to decide on the specific mediaeval era ancestors of them. Maybe ‘Middle Sylheti’ for attested vocabulary, for example. Chittagonian and Rohingya, especially the latter, seem to be unattested languages. (In fact, it is best to treat the <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dobhashi" class="extiw" title="w:Dobhashi">Dobhashi</a> register as being Middle Bengali.) And Mediaeval Chakma was possibly a Tibeto-Burman language. Therefor, in light of the lack of any other specific ancestors, Middle Bengali seems to the appropriate ancestor of all Vaṅgīya lects. -<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Inqil%C4%81b%C4%AB" title="User talk:Inqilābī">⸘</a>- <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Inqil%C4%81b%C4%AB&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Inqilābī (page does not exist)">dictātor</a>·<a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Inqil%C4%81b%C4%AB" title="Special:Contributions/Inqilābī">mundī</a> <a href="https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/User_talk:Msasag#c-Inqilābī-2021-05-09T19:33:00.000Z-Msasag-2021-05-09T03:42:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:33, 9 May 2021 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-53" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd>@<a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Inqil%C4%81b%C4%AB&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Inqilābī (page does not exist)">Inqilābī</a> Chittagonian and Rohingya are actually dialectal, very little difference between them. Rohingya is same as the Cox's bazar dialect of Chittagonian, just geography and identity separate them. So I think we can consider their 14th-16th century ancestor to be the same. Chakmas did shift from a Tibeto-Burman language (probably closely related to Sak) to an Indo-Aryan one. The ancestor of their Indo-Aryan language is of course an Indo-Aryan one, very likely same as the ancestor of Chittagonian and Rohingya. <a href="/wiki/User:Msasag" title="User:Msasag">Msasag</a> (<a class="mw-selflink selflink">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/User_talk:Msasag#c-Msasag-2021-05-10T03:00:00.000Z-Inqilābī-2021-05-09T19:33:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">03:00, 10 May 2021 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-54" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a> <dl><dd>Now what would you do for words of these languages that are actually derived from Middle Bengali? In <a href="/wiki/%E0%A6%86%E0%A6%81%E0%A6%B0" title="আঁর">this example</a>, no Old Bengali word may be assigned as the etymon given that the OB word for “my” is মোর ; Chatterji himself presents Bengali words as etymons for these languages, so I do not see the harm in setting MB as the ancestor of these languages as well. If you still do not agree, then such entries would not be properly categorized. Thanks. <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Inqil%C4%81b%C4%AB" title="User talk:Inqilābī">·~</a> <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Inqil%C4%81b%C4%AB&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Inqilābī (page does not exist)">dictátor</a>·<a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Inqil%C4%81b%C4%AB" title="Special:Contributions/Inqilābī">mundꟾ</a> <a href="https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/User_talk:Msasag#c-Inqilābī-2021-06-08T02:53:00.000Z-Msasag-2021-05-10T03:00:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">02:53, 8 June 2021 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-55" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd>@<a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Inqil%C4%81b%C4%AB&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Inqilābī (page does not exist)">Inqilābī</a> They have older literature. Maybe we can make a separate ancestral form for them. Chatterjee considers these languages as Bengali dialects. <a href="/wiki/User:Msasag" title="User:Msasag">Msasag</a> (<a class="mw-selflink selflink">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/User_talk:Msasag#c-Msasag-2021-06-08T03:03:00.000Z-Msasag-2021-05-10T03:00:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">03:03, 8 June 2021 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-56" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a> <dl><dd>The Middle Bengali period spans from 1200 AD to 1800; they can be easily considered as descendants of Early Middle Bengali (until 1500 AD). Moreover, these languages are actually Bengali dialects; these are very divergent lects that is why we are treating them as separate languages— which is all right but the problem arises when categorization is being hindered. Let me give you few examples regarding fullfledged languages sharing common ancestors: Scots (diverging English dialects) is treated as a descendant of Middle English; Sanskrit is treated as the ancestor of all Indo-Aryan just for the sake of proper categorization; Limburgish, West Flemish, Zealandic are treated as descendants of Middle Dutch. The thing in the above example is: Chittagonian <a href="/wiki/%E0%A6%86%E0%A6%81%E0%A6%B0#Chittagonian" title="আঁর">আঁর</a> develops through nasalisation of the intervocalic /m/ in Middle Bengali <a href="/wiki/%E0%A6%86%E0%A6%AE%E0%A6%BE%E0%A6%B0#Middle_Bengali" title="আমার">আমার</a> (amar); there’s no reason to disregard good academic sources. I would be happy with a separate ancestral form when we have evidence for the same (but that would be redundant & counterproductive); for now I suggest to have MB as the ancestor because Middle Bengali (as a descendant of OB, and as the very ancestral form) covers all Rāṛhī, Vaṅgīya, and Vārendrī varieties. <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Inqil%C4%81b%C4%AB" title="User talk:Inqilābī">·~</a> <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Inqil%C4%81b%C4%AB&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Inqilābī (page does not exist)">dictátor</a>·<a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Inqil%C4%81b%C4%AB" title="Special:Contributions/Inqilābī">mundꟾ</a> <a href="https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/User_talk:Msasag#c-Inqilābī-2021-06-08T03:26:00.000Z-Msasag-2021-06-08T03:03:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">03:26, 8 June 2021 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-57" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd>@<a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Inqil%C4%81b%C4%AB&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Inqilābī (page does not exist)">Inqilābī</a> These aren't Bengali dialects. They're separate languages according to modern linguists. Even older linguists like Grierson and Masica considered Chittagonian more district from Bengali than Assamese is (which they considered as a separate language). The reason they gave for still counting it under Bengali is socio-politics. Modern linguists don't care about socio-politics, it is totally based on science. Sanskrit is considered as an ancestor because it is the only and quite nicely preserved Old Indo-Aryan language. While we do have literature from Sylhet, Chittagong, Barak valley (for Sylheti and Bishnupriya Manipuri). Even Early Middle Bengali (as of Srikrishnakirtana) can be considered as an ancestor of Assamese because that was the beginning of more separation among these languages. Kakati wrote, "The Kṛṣṇa Kīrtana presents a mixture of dialects which have not yet started on courses of independent development but the beginnings of which seem to have been well laid down.” That doesn't mean we will consider entire Early Assamese under Middle Bengali. <a href="/wiki/User:Msasag" title="User:Msasag">Msasag</a> (<a class="mw-selflink selflink">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/User_talk:Msasag#c-Msasag-2021-06-08T05:01:00.000Z-Inqilābī-2021-06-08T03:26:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">05:01, 8 June 2021 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-58" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Avahattha" data-mw-thread-id="h-Avahattha-2021-05-09T19:52:00.000Z">Avahattha</h2>[<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Msasag&action=edit&section=22" title="Edit section: Avahattha">edit</a>]<div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata">Latest comment: <a href="#c-Msasag-2021-08-18T09:28:00.000Z-Inqilābī-2021-08-17T19:57:00.000Z">3 years ago</a>9 comments2 people in discussion</div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> In which script do you think Avahattha entries should be created? Avahattha is attested in the Caryāpadas, so may be we can use the Eastern Nagari script? (I am aware, though, that some ‘Proto-Bengali’ script was actually used that time, but the missingness of unicodes means we have only modern scripts on hand.) -<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Inqil%C4%81b%C4%AB" title="User talk:Inqilābī">⸘</a>- <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Inqil%C4%81b%C4%AB&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Inqilābī (page does not exist)">dictātor</a>·<a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Inqil%C4%81b%C4%AB" title="Special:Contributions/Inqilābī">mundī</a> <a href="https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/User_talk:Msasag#c-Inqilābī-2021-05-09T19:52:00.000Z-Avahattha" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:52, 9 May 2021 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-59" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a> <dl><dd>@<a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Inqil%C4%81b%C4%AB&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Inqilābī (page does not exist)">Inqilābī</a> Charyapada was written in Old Eastern Nagari of 14th century. But the songs were composed in 8th-12th century when the ancestor Siddham script was used in the region. So I think Siddham will be the best. I'm using it for Kamarupi Prakrit entries. <a href="/wiki/User:Msasag" title="User:Msasag">Msasag</a> (<a class="mw-selflink selflink">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/User_talk:Msasag#c-Msasag-2021-05-10T03:07:00.000Z-Inqilābī-2021-05-09T19:52:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">03:07, 10 May 2021 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-60" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a> <dl><dd>Well, did the Siddham script not have regional variations? There is an article on <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gaudi_script" class="extiw" title="w:Gaudi script">w:Gaudi script</a>. And at <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siddha%E1%B9%83_script" class="extiw" title="w:Siddhaṃ script">w:Siddhaṃ script</a>, it is written: “In time, other scripts, particularly Devanagari, replaced Siddhaṃ in India, while Siddhaṃ's northeastern derivative called Gaudi evolved to become the Assamese, Bengali, Tirhuta, Odia and also the Nepalese scripts in the eastern and northeastern regions of South Asia, […] ”. However I am otherwise okay with Siddham. -<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Inqil%C4%81b%C4%AB" title="User talk:Inqilābī">⸘</a>- <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Inqil%C4%81b%C4%AB&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Inqilābī (page does not exist)">dictātor</a>·<a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Inqil%C4%81b%C4%AB" title="Special:Contributions/Inqilābī">mundī</a> <a href="https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/User_talk:Msasag#c-Inqilābī-2021-06-01T11:45:00.000Z-Msasag-2021-05-10T03:07:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:45, 1 June 2021 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-61" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a></dd> <dd>Also, what would be the relationship between Kamarupi Apabhramsa and Avahattha? The latter is the descendant of Magadhi Prakrit, and in turn is the ancestor of all modern Eastern Indo-Aryan languages. May be Kamarupi is an offshoot of Avahattha? -<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Inqil%C4%81b%C4%AB" title="User talk:Inqilābī">⸘</a>- <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Inqil%C4%81b%C4%AB&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Inqilābī (page does not exist)">dictātor</a>·<a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Inqil%C4%81b%C4%AB" title="Special:Contributions/Inqilābī">mundī</a> <a href="https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/User_talk:Msasag#c-Inqilābī-2021-06-01T11:56:00.000Z-Msasag-2021-05-10T03:07:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:56, 1 June 2021 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-62" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a></dd></dl></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd>@<a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Inqil%C4%81b%C4%AB&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Inqilābī (page does not exist)">Inqilābī</a> Abahaṭṭha was spoken in 6th-12th century when late form of Gupta and early and mid form of Siddham were used. At that time I don't think there were much difference. Kamarupi was a dialect of Late Magadhi Prakrit and Abahaṭṭha that was spoken in, at least the core regions of Kamarupa kingdom and development into Assamese and Kamtapuri, Surjapuri. <a href="/wiki/User:Msasag" title="User:Msasag">Msasag</a> (<a class="mw-selflink selflink">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/User_talk:Msasag#c-Msasag-2021-06-06T02:49:00.000Z-Inqilābī-2021-06-01T11:56:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">02:49, 6 June 2021 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-63" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a> <dl><dd>Chatterji considers Avahattha to be a Sauraseni dialect, while Sen (as in <code style="white-space:pre-wrap">{{<a href="/wiki/Template:R:bn:EDB#top" title="Template:R:bn:EDB">R:bn:EDB</a>}}</code>) treats Avahattha as the ancestor of Old Bengali. According to Chatterji, Magadhi Apabhramsa is an unattested language. Your input? <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Inqil%C4%81b%C4%AB" title="User talk:Inqilābī">·~</a> <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Inqil%C4%81b%C4%AB&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Inqilābī (page does not exist)">dictátor</a>·<a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Inqil%C4%81b%C4%AB" title="Special:Contributions/Inqilābī">mundꟾ</a> <a href="https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/User_talk:Msasag#c-Inqilābī-2021-08-17T12:21:00.000Z-Msasag-2021-06-06T02:49:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:21, 17 August 2021 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-64" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd>@<a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Inqil%C4%81b%C4%AB&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Inqilābī (page does not exist)">Inqilābī</a> What's the time period for Magadhi Apabhramsa that Chatterjee gave? <a href="/wiki/User:Msasag" title="User:Msasag">Msasag</a> (<a class="mw-selflink selflink">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/User_talk:Msasag#c-Msasag-2021-08-17T12:29:00.000Z-Inqilābī-2021-08-17T12:21:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:29, 17 August 2021 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-65" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a> <dl><dd><code style="white-space:pre-wrap">{{<a href="/wiki/Template:R:ODBL#top" title="Template:R:ODBL">R:ODBL</a>|1|91}}</code>: “So far as the eastern languages are concerned, we have to come at one bound from the specimens in second MIA. (pre-6th century) to the specimens in the crystallised modern speeches (10th-13th centuries for Bengali […] ).”</dd> <dd>So this suggests a time period of c. 500 CE to c. 900 CE for Magadhi Apabhramsa. <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Inqil%C4%81b%C4%AB" title="User talk:Inqilābī">·~</a> <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Inqil%C4%81b%C4%AB&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Inqilābī (page does not exist)">dictátor</a>·<a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Inqil%C4%81b%C4%AB" title="Special:Contributions/Inqilābī">mundꟾ</a> <a href="https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/User_talk:Msasag#c-Inqilābī-2021-08-17T19:57:00.000Z-Msasag-2021-08-17T12:29:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:57, 17 August 2021 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-66" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd>Ah, so Chatterjee gives 10th-13th century for the language of Charyapada? Some other sources say that Charyapada songs were composed in 8th-12th century (which occupies the Apabhramsa period of 6th-12th c, mid to late, includes the given period of Magadhi Apabhramsa). We have to determine Charyapada's period. <a href="/wiki/User:Msasag" title="User:Msasag">Msasag</a> (<a class="mw-selflink selflink">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/User_talk:Msasag#c-Msasag-2021-08-18T09:28:00.000Z-Inqilābī-2021-08-17T19:57:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:28, 18 August 2021 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-67" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="॥" data-mw-thread-id="h-॥-2021-06-01T12:32:00.000Z">॥</h2>[<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Msasag&action=edit&section=23" title="Edit section: ॥">edit</a>]<div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata">Latest comment: <a href="#c-Bhagadatta-2021-06-01T12:46:00.000Z-Inqilābī-2021-06-01T12:32:00.000Z">3 years ago</a>3 comments3 people in discussion</div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> How do we transliterate this? As a fullstop, and thereby with no distinction from । ? (@<a href="/wiki/User:Bhagadatta" class="mw-redirect" title="User:Bhagadatta">Bhagadatta</a>, <a href="/wiki/User:Kutchkutch" title="User:Kutchkutch">Kutchkutch</a>) -<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Inqil%C4%81b%C4%AB" title="User talk:Inqilābī">⸘</a>- <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Inqil%C4%81b%C4%AB&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Inqilābī (page does not exist)">dictātor</a>·<a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Inqil%C4%81b%C4%AB" title="Special:Contributions/Inqilābī">mundī</a> <a href="https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/User_talk:Msasag#c-Inqilābī-2021-06-01T12:32:00.000Z-॥" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:32, 1 June 2021 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-68" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a> <dl><dd>@<a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Inqil%C4%81b%C4%AB&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Inqilābī (page does not exist)">Inqilābī</a>: <a href="/wiki/Module:hi-translit" title="Module:hi-translit">Module:hi-translit</a> transliterates ॥ the same as ।, and at <dl><dd><a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="https://www.unicode.org/review/pr-59.html">https://www.unicode.org/review/pr-59.html</a></dd></dl></dd> <dd>it says <dl><dd>[danda and double danda] are mostly replaced by use of full stop and similar Western punctuation</dd></dl></dd> <dd>However at <dl><dd><a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="https://www.unicode.org/notes/tn33/">https://www.unicode.org/notes/tn33/</a></dd></dl></dd> <dd>it says <dl><dd>When both a single and a double danda occur, the double danda is used to demarcate larger units of text than the single danda. This usage is roughly comparable to the use of commas and full stops in Western typography, although dandas typically mark larger phrasal units than what might be separated by commas in Western typography. <a href="/wiki/User:Kutchkutch" title="User:Kutchkutch">Kutchkutch</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Kutchkutch" title="User talk:Kutchkutch">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/User_talk:Msasag#c-Kutchkutch-2021-06-01T12:44:00.000Z-Inqilābī-2021-06-01T12:32:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:44, 1 June 2021 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-69" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a></dd></dl></dd> <dd>: The end of a verse or a paragraph has no significance in transliterations, so it's transliterated as a simple full stop. -- <a href="/wiki/User:Bhagadatta" class="mw-redirect" title="User:Bhagadatta">𝓑𝓱𝓪𝓰𝓪</a><a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Bhagadatta" title="Special:Contributions/Bhagadatta">𝓭𝓪𝓽𝓽𝓪</a>(<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Bhagadatta" class="mw-redirect" title="User talk:Bhagadatta">𝓽𝓪𝓵𝓴</a>) <a href="https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/User_talk:Msasag#c-Bhagadatta-2021-06-01T12:46:00.000Z-Inqilābī-2021-06-01T12:32:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:46, 1 June 2021 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-70" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Assamese_references" data-mw-thread-id="h-Assamese_references-2021-08-13T06:22:00.000Z">Assamese references</h2>[<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Msasag&action=edit&section=24" title="Edit section: Assamese references">edit</a>]<div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata">Latest comment: <a href="#c-Inqilābī-2021-09-06T17:26:00.000Z-Msasag-2021-08-23T16:31:00.000Z">3 years ago</a>14 comments2 people in discussion</div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> Hi, note that User:Svartava has been creating some Assamese entries (such as <a href="/wiki/%E0%A6%B9%E0%A6%BF%E0%A6%AE" title="হিম">হিম</a>, <a href="/wiki/%E0%A6%B9%E0%A6%BF%E0%A6%AE%E0%A6%BE%E0%A6%B2%E0%A6%AF%E0%A6%BC" title="হিমালয়">হিমালয়</a>) by providing references: after you verify such entries, feel free to get rid of them— I am sure you would deem those references unnecessary. Thanks. By the way, regarding the older languages you work in—Early Assamese, Kamarupi Prakrit, etc.— I am curious to know if you are doing original research or utilising some reference. If you be doing the latter, then it is a good idea to provide references for them, because you know nobody is a native speaker of old languages. Best regards. <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Inqil%C4%81b%C4%AB" title="User talk:Inqilābī">·~</a> <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Inqil%C4%81b%C4%AB&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Inqilābī (page does not exist)">dictátor</a>·<a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Inqil%C4%81b%C4%AB" title="Special:Contributions/Inqilābī">mundꟾ</a> <a href="https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/User_talk:Msasag#c-Inqilābī-2021-08-13T06:22:00.000Z-Assamese_references" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">06:22, 13 August 2021 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-71" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a> <dl><dd>@<a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Inqil%C4%81bi&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Inqilābi (page does not exist)">Inqilābi</a> Those works are considered as Early Assamese and Kamarupi Prakrit respectively, but I'm citing the main sources, not any dictionaries or other books. But I'm using both the main sources and some dictionaries/other resources for those entries. <a href="/wiki/User:Msasag" title="User:Msasag">Msasag</a> (<a class="mw-selflink selflink">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/User_talk:Msasag#c-Msasag-2021-08-13T08:43:00.000Z-Inqilābī-2021-08-13T06:22:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">08:43, 13 August 2021 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-72" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a> <dl><dd>Well, if you are using dictionaries and other resources, then it’s consider a good practice to add them below ===References=== (for inline sources) or ===Further reading=== (for non-inline ones). For example for Old/Middle Bengali entries I add <code style="white-space:pre-wrap">{{<a href="/wiki/Template:R:ODBL#top" title="Template:R:ODBL">R:ODBL</a>}}</code> or <code style="white-space:pre-wrap">{{<a href="/wiki/Template:R:bn:EDB#top" title="Template:R:bn:EDB">R:bn:EDB</a>}}</code> as references. So if you want I can create reference templates for Early Assamese and Kamarupi Prakrit. Can you provide the book names and their bibliographical information so that I create em? Thank you. <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Inqil%C4%81b%C4%AB" title="User talk:Inqilābī">·~</a> <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Inqil%C4%81b%C4%AB&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Inqilābī (page does not exist)">dictátor</a>·<a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Inqil%C4%81b%C4%AB" title="Special:Contributions/Inqilābī">mundꟾ</a> <a href="https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/User_talk:Msasag#c-Inqilābī-2021-08-13T09:27:00.000Z-Msasag-2021-08-13T08:43:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:27, 13 August 2021 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-73" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a></dd></dl></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd>@<a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Inqil%C4%81b%C4%AB&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Inqilābī (page does not exist)">Inqilābī</a> - 1. Assamese, its formation and development (by Banikanta Kakati); 2. Hemkosh dictionary; 3. Grammatical categories in Mādhav Kandali's Rāmāyana (by Gitanjali Bez); 4. Assamese grammar and origin of the Assamese language (by Kaliram Medhi) 5. Aadarxa dictionary (app) <a href="/wiki/User:Msasag" title="User:Msasag">Msasag</a> (<a class="mw-selflink selflink">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/User_talk:Msasag#c-Msasag-2021-08-13T09:55:00.000Z-Inqilābī-2021-08-13T09:27:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:55, 13 August 2021 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-74" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a> <dl><dd>Can you tell me the languages for which each of these works are referenced (e.g, Assamese, Middle Assamese, Early Assamese, Kamarupi Prakrit, etc.— so that I can categorize the respective reference templates appropriately by language (see e.g., <code style="white-space:pre-wrap">{{<a href="/wiki/Template:R:AFD#top" title="Template:R:AFD">R:AFD</a>}}</code>). <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Inqil%C4%81b%C4%AB" title="User talk:Inqilābī">·~</a> <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Inqil%C4%81b%C4%AB&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Inqilābī (page does not exist)">dictátor</a>·<a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Inqil%C4%81b%C4%AB" title="Special:Contributions/Inqilābī">mundꟾ</a> <a href="https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/User_talk:Msasag#c-Inqilābī-2021-08-16T17:36:00.000Z-Msasag-2021-08-13T09:55:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:36, 16 August 2021 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-75" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd>@<a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Inqil%C4%81b%C4%AB&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Inqilābī (page does not exist)">Inqilābī</a> Can you also change the language name of Naga Pidgin to Nagamese? Almost nobody uses Naga pidgin now, it's only called Nagamese. And since it has native speakers, it's no longer a pidgin but a creole. Also, a separate transliteration module for Kamta is needed, currently it's using Assamese module but they have different phonetics. <a href="/wiki/User:Msasag" title="User:Msasag">Msasag</a> (<a class="mw-selflink selflink">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/User_talk:Msasag#c-Msasag-2021-08-13T12:10:00.000Z-Msasag-2021-08-13T09:55:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:10, 13 August 2021 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-76" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a> <dl><dd>What about the name Naga Creole Assamese? Sounds better than ‘Nagamese’, though I am afraid it’s not as common. <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Inqil%C4%81b%C4%AB" title="User talk:Inqilābī">·~</a> <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Inqil%C4%81b%C4%AB&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Inqilābī (page does not exist)">dictátor</a>·<a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Inqil%C4%81b%C4%AB" title="Special:Contributions/Inqilābī">mundꟾ</a> <a href="https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/User_talk:Msasag#c-Inqilābī-2021-08-16T17:36:00.000Z-Msasag-2021-08-13T12:10:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:36, 16 August 2021 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-77" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd>@<a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Inqil%C4%81b%C4%AB&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Inqilābī (page does not exist)">Inqilābī</a> Never heard this. "Nagamese" and sometimes, "Nagamese creole" are used. <a href="/wiki/User:Msasag" title="User:Msasag">Msasag</a> (<a class="mw-selflink selflink">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/User_talk:Msasag#c-Msasag-2021-08-17T00:13:00.000Z-Inqilābī-2021-08-16T17:36:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:13, 17 August 2021 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-78" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd>@<a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Inqil%C4%81b%C4%AB&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Inqilābī (page does not exist)">Inqilābī</a> Ah I didn't notice one of your messages. All the books have modern Assamese and Early Assamese. Middle Assamese is absent in 3., and maybe 5. also. I was thinking if we can merge Middle Assamese with modern, or change its name to "Early modern Assamese". Because it's not really different from modern Assamese. But most refer to it as Middle Assamese so I guess it's fine as it is. But generally Old, Middle, New/Modern etc terms mean very different forms from each other. <a href="/wiki/User:Msasag" title="User:Msasag">Msasag</a> (<a class="mw-selflink selflink">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/User_talk:Msasag#c-Msasag-2021-08-19T10:17:00.000Z-Msasag-2021-08-13T12:10:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:17, 19 August 2021 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-79" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a> <dl><dd>So, is Kamarupi Prakrit absent in all of these resources? <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Inqil%C4%81b%C4%AB" title="User talk:Inqilābī">·~</a> <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Inqil%C4%81b%C4%AB&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Inqilābī (page does not exist)">dictátor</a>·<a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Inqil%C4%81b%C4%AB" title="Special:Contributions/Inqilābī">mundꟾ</a> <a href="https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/User_talk:Msasag#c-Inqilābī-2021-08-20T05:45:00.000Z-Msasag-2021-08-19T10:17:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">05:45, 20 August 2021 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-80" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd>@<a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Inqil%C4%81b%C4%AB&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Inqilābī (page does not exist)">Inqilābī</a> Some of these and others have mentions that Charyapada is also written in Kamarupi Prakrit but perhaps not vocabulary. Kamarupi Prakrit vocabulary are mentioned in these two books: 1. Inscriptions of Ancient Assam (Mukunda Madhav Sharma); 2. Reconstructing linguistic history in a dialect continuum: The Kamta, Rajbanshi, and Northern Deshi Bangla subgroup of Indo-Aryan (Toulmin 2006); 3. From linguistic to sociolinguistic reconstruction: the Kamta historical subgroup of Indo-Aryan (Toulmin 2009). I have to check for others. <a href="/wiki/User:Msasag" title="User:Msasag">Msasag</a> (<a class="mw-selflink selflink">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/User_talk:Msasag#c-Msasag-2021-08-20T06:44:00.000Z-Inqilābī-2021-08-20T05:45:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">06:44, 20 August 2021 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-81" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> For now I have created the following reference templets which you can use in entries: <ul><li><code style="white-space:pre-wrap">{{<a href="/wiki/Template:R:AFD#top" title="Template:R:AFD">R:AFD</a>}}</code></li> <li><code style="white-space:pre-wrap">{{<a href="/wiki/Template:R:Bez:2012#top" title="Template:R:Bez:2012">R:Bez:2012</a>}}</code></li> <li><code style="white-space:pre-wrap">{{<a href="/wiki/Template:R:Hemkosh#top" title="Template:R:Hemkosh">R:Hemkosh</a>}}</code></li> <li><code style="white-space:pre-wrap">{{<a href="/wiki/Template:R:Medhi:1936#top" title="Template:R:Medhi:1936">R:Medhi:1936</a>}}</code></li></ul> Is the app one (Aadarxa) really good as compared to the above ones? And as for the Kamarupi Prakrit references, you can yourself go ahead & create em. <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Inqil%C4%81b%C4%AB" title="User talk:Inqilābī">·~</a> <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Inqil%C4%81b%C4%AB&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Inqilābī (page does not exist)">dictátor</a>·<a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Inqil%C4%81b%C4%AB" title="Special:Contributions/Inqilābī">mundꟾ</a> <a href="https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/User_talk:Msasag#c-Inqilābī-2021-08-20T11:36:00.000Z-Assamese_references" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:36, 20 August 2021 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-82" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a> <dl><dd>Thanks! Yeah the app is good. Btw why did you write Medha instead of Medhi? Was it a typo? <a href="/wiki/User:Msasag" title="User:Msasag">Msasag</a> (<a class="mw-selflink selflink">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/User_talk:Msasag#c-Msasag-2021-08-23T16:31:00.000Z-Inqilābī-2021-08-20T11:36:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:31, 23 August 2021 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-83" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a> <dl><dd>I have created <code style="white-space:pre-wrap">{{<a href="/wiki/Template:R:Aadarxa#top" title="Template:R:Aadarxa">R:Aadarxa</a>}}</code>, could you fill in the bibliographical details (I got no information regarding year, full name of the work, nor did I even find the weblink)? By the way, are <code style="white-space:pre-wrap">{{<a href="/wiki/Template:R:as:CA#top" title="Template:R:as:CA">R:as:CA</a>}}</code> and <code style="white-space:pre-wrap">{{<a href="/wiki/Template:R:as:xobdo.org#top" title="Template:R:as:xobdo.org">R:as:xobdo.org</a>}}</code> useful to you? These were created by other editors. <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Inqil%C4%81b%C4%AB" title="User talk:Inqilābī">·~</a> <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Inqil%C4%81b%C4%AB&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Inqilābī (page does not exist)">dictátor</a>·<a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Inqil%C4%81b%C4%AB" title="Special:Contributions/Inqilābī">mundꟾ</a> <a href="https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/User_talk:Msasag#c-Inqilābī-2021-09-06T17:26:00.000Z-Msasag-2021-08-23T16:31:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:26, 6 September 2021 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-84" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Template_categorization" data-mw-thread-id="h-Template_categorization-2021-09-12T00:44:00.000Z">Template categorization</h2>[<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Msasag&action=edit&section=25" title="Edit section: Template categorization">edit</a>]<div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata">Latest comment: <a href="#c-Msasag-2021-09-12T01:04:00.000Z-Template_categorization">3 years ago</a>2 comments2 people in discussion</div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> Hi, I wondered if you could clarify for me what <code style="white-space:pre-wrap">{{<a href="/wiki/Template:as-verb-c#top" title="Template:as-verb-c">as-verb-c</a>}}</code> is (I don't know what c stands for) and whether it can go in any of the more specific template categories listed in <a href="/wiki/User:Erutuon/lists/language-specific_template_types" title="User:Erutuon/lists/language-specific template types">User:Erutuon/lists/language-specific template types</a>, rather than just <a href="/wiki/Category:Assamese_templates" title="Category:Assamese templates">Category:Assamese templates</a>. Like maybe it's a verb inflection-table template. I ran into it in <a href="/wiki/User:Erutuon/lists/possibly_uncategorized_headword-line_templates" title="User:Erutuon/lists/possibly uncategorized headword-line templates">User:Erutuon/lists/possibly uncategorized headword-line templates</a> because it was under a part-of-speech header in one entry. I'm trying to make sure every definition section has a proper headword-line template, and it turns out to do that, it helps if templates are in the right categories. — <a href="/wiki/User:Erutuon" title="User:Erutuon">Eru</a>·<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Erutuon" title="User talk:Erutuon">tuon</a> <a href="https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/User_talk:Msasag#c-Erutuon-2021-09-12T00:44:00.000Z-Template_categorization" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:44, 12 September 2021 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-85" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a> @<a href="/wiki/User:Erutuon" title="User:Erutuon">Erutuon</a> c means causative. <a href="/wiki/User:Msasag" title="User:Msasag">Msasag</a> (<a class="mw-selflink selflink">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/User_talk:Msasag#c-Msasag-2021-09-12T01:04:00.000Z-Template_categorization" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">01:04, 12 September 2021 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-86" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Three_Number_Lists" data-mw-thread-id="h-Three_Number_Lists-2022-06-26T10:35:00.000Z">Three Number Lists</h2>[<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Msasag&action=edit&section=26" title="Edit section: Three Number Lists">edit</a>]<div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata">Latest comment: <a href="#c-Apisite-2022-06-26T10:51:00.000Z-Three_Number_Lists">2 years ago</a>2 comments1 person in discussion</div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> The number lists have been for Chakma, Rohingya and Sylheti made. <a href="/wiki/User:Apisite" title="User:Apisite">Apisite</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Apisite" title="User talk:Apisite">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/User_talk:Msasag#c-Apisite-2022-06-26T10:35:00.000Z-Three_Number_Lists" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:35, 26 June 2022 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-87" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a> Now another has been <a href="/wiki/Module:number_list/data/or" title="Module:number list/data/or">for Oriya</a> made. --<a href="/wiki/User:Apisite" title="User:Apisite">Apisite</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Apisite" title="User talk:Apisite">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/User_talk:Msasag#c-Apisite-2022-06-26T10:51:00.000Z-Three_Number_Lists" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:51, 26 June 2022 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-88" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Request_for_help" data-mw-thread-id="h-Request_for_help-20240618211900">Request for help</h2>[<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Msasag&action=edit&section=27" title="Edit section: Request for help">edit</a>]<div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata">Latest comment: <a href="#c-Msasag-20240620152800-Apocheir-20240618211900">5 months ago</a>2 comments2 people in discussion</div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> If you like, take a look at <a href="/wiki/flattened_rice" title="flattened rice">flattened rice</a> and the linked pages, especially the translations. I did my best but I'd really appreciate input from someone who is more familiar with these languages. <a href="/wiki/User:Apocheir" title="User:Apocheir">Apocheir</a> (<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Apocheir&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:Apocheir (page does not exist)">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/User_talk:Msasag#c-Apocheir-20240618211900-Request_for_help" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:19, 18 June 2024 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-89" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a> <dl><dd>They seem accurate. Although I know only a few of those languages. In Bengali the term in the current standard form would be <a href="/wiki/%E0%A6%9A%E0%A6%BF%E0%A6%81%E0%A6%A1%E0%A6%BC%E0%A7%87#Bengali" class="mw-redirect" title="চিঁড়ে">চিঁড়ে</a> (cĩṛe) I guess, following the iCa > iCe shift, similar to <a href="/wiki/%E0%A6%AC%E0%A6%BF%E0%A6%AF%E0%A6%BC%E0%A7%87#Bengali" title="বিয়ে">বিয়ে</a> (biẏe), <a href="/wiki/%E0%A6%A6%E0%A6%BF%E0%A6%AF%E0%A6%BC%E0%A7%87#Bengali" title="দিয়ে">দিয়ে</a> (diẏe), <a href="/wiki/%E0%A6%95%E0%A6%B0%E0%A7%87#Bengali" title="করে">করে</a> (kore) (from <a href="/wiki/%E0%A6%95%E0%A6%B0%E0%A6%BF%E0%A6%AF%E0%A6%BC%E0%A6%BE#Bengali" title="করিয়া">করিয়া</a> (koriẏa)) etc. <a href="/wiki/User:Msasag" title="User:Msasag">Msasag</a> (<a class="mw-selflink selflink">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/User_talk:Msasag#c-Msasag-20240620152800-Apocheir-20240618211900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:28, 20 June 2024 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-90" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton 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