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Hear from a range of voices, as Van and his guests explore what's behind the staggering number of individuals locked in the criminal justice system, and discuss solutions to what has become a national epidemic. 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Coming soon.</div> <div slot="date">Trailer</div> <time slot="eplength">2 mins</time> <picture> <source srcset="/audio/static/images/podcasts/incarceration-inc-with-van-jones/square-m.0f970dda.jpg" data-type="medium"> <source srcset="/audio/static/images/podcasts/incarceration-inc-with-van-jones/square-l.90558dc9.jpg" data-type="large"> <source srcset="/audio/static/images/podcasts/incarceration-inc-with-van-jones/square.46875482.jpg" data-type="original"> </picture> </audio-player-wc> <audio-player-wc class="episode" src="https://www.podtrac.com/pts/redirect.mp3/pdst.fm/e/chrt.fm/track/E31CC9/traffic.megaphone.fm/WMHY8409240737.mp3?updated=1695757443" data-position="1" data-type="podcast" data-guid="648ae169-a412-46d5-a13b-ab96003295bf"> <a href="/audio/podcasts/incarceration-inc-with-van-jones/episodes/648ae169-a412-46d5-a13b-ab96003295bf" slot="title" tabindex="0">#1</a> <a href="/audio/podcasts/incarceration-inc-with-van-jones" slot="author" target="_blank">Incarceration, Inc. with Van Jones</a> <div slot="description">Over 2.2 million people are behind bars in America. That's a prison population rate of 655 for every 100,000 residents. In other words, when it comes to locking folks up, the United States is #1. In part one of our 4-part series, we explore how the land of the free became the home of the incarcerated. For more on the criminal justice system, check out "The Redemption Project with Van Jones," airing Sunday nights at 9 PM ET/PT on CNN and CNN.com/go, or visit www.cnn.com/redemption.</div> <div slot="date">May 25, 2019</div> <time slot="eplength">25 mins</time> <picture> <source srcset="/audio/static/images/podcasts/incarceration-inc-with-van-jones/square-m.0f970dda.jpg" data-type="medium"> <source srcset="/audio/static/images/podcasts/incarceration-inc-with-van-jones/square-l.90558dc9.jpg" data-type="large"> <source srcset="/audio/static/images/podcasts/incarceration-inc-with-van-jones/square.46875482.jpg" data-type="original"> </picture> </audio-player-wc> <audio-player-wc class="episode" src="https://www.podtrac.com/pts/redirect.mp3/pdst.fm/e/chrt.fm/track/E31CC9/traffic.megaphone.fm/WMHY1637994734.mp3?updated=1695757482" data-position="2" data-type="podcast" data-guid="f2b403b0-6b06-4105-b236-ab960032276c"> <a href="/audio/podcasts/incarceration-inc-with-van-jones/episodes/f2b403b0-6b06-4105-b236-ab960032276c" slot="title" tabindex="0">4.5 Million</a> <a href="/audio/podcasts/incarceration-inc-with-van-jones" slot="author" target="_blank">Incarceration, Inc. with Van Jones</a> <div slot="description">An estimated 4.5 million adults are under community supervision in the United States. That's 1 out of every 55 adults in America on probation or parole. In part two of our 4-part series, we explore the origin of community supervision and talk to individuals who have experienced parole and probation firsthand. For more on the criminal justice system, check out "The Redemption Project with Van Jones," airing Sunday nights at 9 PM ET/PT on CNN and CNN.com/go, or visit www.cnn.com/redemption.</div> <div slot="date">May 25, 2019</div> <time slot="eplength">30 mins</time> <picture> <source srcset="/audio/static/images/podcasts/incarceration-inc-with-van-jones/square-m.0f970dda.jpg" data-type="medium"> <source srcset="/audio/static/images/podcasts/incarceration-inc-with-van-jones/square-l.90558dc9.jpg" data-type="large"> <source srcset="/audio/static/images/podcasts/incarceration-inc-with-van-jones/square.46875482.jpg" data-type="original"> </picture> </audio-player-wc> <audio-player-wc class="episode" src="https://www.podtrac.com/pts/redirect.mp3/pdst.fm/e/chrt.fm/track/E31CC9/traffic.megaphone.fm/WMHY7509543047.mp3?updated=1695757505" data-position="3" data-type="podcast" data-guid="f8aed201-6cd9-4428-a21c-ab960031ec32"> <a href="/audio/podcasts/incarceration-inc-with-van-jones/episodes/f8aed201-6cd9-4428-a21c-ab960031ec32" slot="title" tabindex="0">$270 Billion</a> <a href="/audio/podcasts/incarceration-inc-with-van-jones" slot="author" target="_blank">Incarceration, Inc. with Van Jones</a> <div slot="description">It's a $270 billion industry, but how exactly do you make a profit from locking folks up? In part three of our 4-part series, we break down the cost of incarceration in America, for both taxpayers and those who end up behind bars, and we take a hard look at how prison became big business. For more on the criminal justice system, check out "The Redemption Project with Van Jones," airing Sunday nights at 9 PM ET/PT on CNN and CNN.com/go, or visit www.cnn.com/redemption.</div> <div slot="date">Jun 5, 2019</div> <time slot="eplength">25 mins</time> <picture> <source srcset="/audio/static/images/podcasts/incarceration-inc-with-van-jones/square-m.0f970dda.jpg" data-type="medium"> <source srcset="/audio/static/images/podcasts/incarceration-inc-with-van-jones/square-l.90558dc9.jpg" data-type="large"> <source srcset="/audio/static/images/podcasts/incarceration-inc-with-van-jones/square.46875482.jpg" data-type="original"> </picture> </audio-player-wc> <audio-player-wc class="episode" src="https://www.podtrac.com/pts/redirect.mp3/pdst.fm/e/chrt.fm/track/E31CC9/traffic.megaphone.fm/WMHY8797306886.mp3?updated=1695757548" data-position="4" data-type="podcast" data-guid="5a165672-f97e-4953-88ee-ab97005dbb3f"> <a href="/audio/podcasts/incarceration-inc-with-van-jones/episodes/5a165672-f97e-4953-88ee-ab97005dbb3f" slot="title" tabindex="0">5 Principles</a> <a href="/audio/podcasts/incarceration-inc-with-van-jones" slot="author" target="_blank">Incarceration, Inc. with Van Jones</a> <div slot="description">In the final episode of our 4-part series, we discuss a multitude of solutions for reforming mass incarceration in America, including the First Step Act and restorative justice. 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