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I added a <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Identifying_blatant_advertising&amp;diff=prev&amp;oldid=793561136">bullet point</a> that often gives away commissioned works. Also added <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Identifying_blatant_advertising&amp;diff=next&amp;oldid=793561136">a section on copyvio</a>, which is very often present alongside spam. <a href="/wiki/User:TonyBallioni" title="User:TonyBallioni">TonyBallioni</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:TonyBallioni" title="User talk:TonyBallioni">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Identifying_blatant_advertising#c-TonyBallioni-2017-08-02T14:59:00.000Z-Some_additions" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:59, 2 August 2017 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-TonyBallioni-2017-08-02T14:59:00.000Z-Some_additions"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span 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class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-WhatamIdoing-20230907031500-AngusWOOF-2019-11-03T15:30:00.000Z","timestamp":"20230907031500"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__4__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__3__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-AngusWOOF-2019-11-03T15:30:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-Request_to_add_signs_of_blatant_advertising-2019-11-03T15:30:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-AngusWOOF-2019-11-03T15:30:00.000Z-Request_to_add_signs_of_blatant_advertising&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Request to add signs of blatant advertising&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;Request to add signs of blatant advertising&quot;}--></div></div></div> <ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-AngusWOOF-2019-11-03T15:30:00.000Z-Request_to_add_signs_of_blatant_advertising"></span>Can we add "years of experience" to the verbiage for identifying blatant advertising? I see that a lot instead of year ranges, although you already have examples of "over 10 years" for other sections so maybe redundant?</li> <li>When the editor uses the two-digit state codes for US states, such as grew up in "San Diego, CA" instead of "San Diego, California", indicating that they more than likely copied it from a website.</li> <li>Excessive use of "Dr." or "Mr." honorifics to show how great their professor is.</li> <li>Mission and values sections with bullet lists that are copied straight out of a website</li> <li>Uploading and posting oversized copyrighted photos</li> <li>Excessive lists of social media external links that immediately need to be trimmed per <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:ELMINOFFICIAL" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:ELMINOFFICIAL">WP:ELMINOFFICIAL</a></li> <li>Reception section is full of taglines / quotes not formatted in prose but as a bullet list, and of course is all glowing</li></ul> <p>I'm sure there are more but these have shown up a lot on ones I tag for G11 <a href="/wiki/User:AngusWOOF" title="User:AngusWOOF"><strong><span style="color: #606060;">AngusWOOF</span></strong></a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:AngusWOOF#top" title="User talk:AngusWOOF"><span style="color: #663300;">bark</span></a> • <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/AngusWOOF" title="Special:Contributions/AngusWOOF"><span style="color: #006600;">sniff</span></a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Identifying_blatant_advertising#c-AngusWOOF-2019-11-03T15:30:00.000Z-Request_to_add_signs_of_blatant_advertising" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:30, 3 November 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-AngusWOOF-2019-11-03T15:30:00.000Z-Request_to_add_signs_of_blatant_advertising"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2019-11-03T15:30:00.000Z","author":"AngusWOOF","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-AngusWOOF-2019-11-03T15:30:00.000Z-Request_to_add_signs_of_blatant_advertising","replies":["c-AngusWOOF-2020-04-11T18:32:00.000Z-AngusWOOF-2019-11-03T15:30:00.000Z","c-WhatamIdoing-20230907031500-AngusWOOF-2019-11-03T15:30:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-AngusWOOF-2019-11-03T15:30:00.000Z-Request_to_add_signs_of_blatant_advertising"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-AngusWOOF-2020-04-11T18:32:00.000Z-AngusWOOF-2019-11-03T15:30:00.000Z"></span>I added bullet points on <a href="/wiki/Name-dropping" title="Name-dropping">name-dropping</a>. I see this happen with a lot of garage bands (<a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:GARAGEBAND" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:GARAGEBAND">WP:GARAGEBAND</a>), actors who have bit roles in films that feature a much more well-known actor/director, and journalists/writers who self-publish to a number of magazines yet don't have external articles written about themselves. <a href="/wiki/User:AngusWOOF" title="User:AngusWOOF"><strong><span style="color: #606060;">AngusWOOF</span></strong></a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:AngusWOOF#top" title="User talk:AngusWOOF"><span style="color: #663300;">bark</span></a> • <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/AngusWOOF" title="Special:Contributions/AngusWOOF"><span style="color: #006600;">sniff</span></a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Identifying_blatant_advertising#c-AngusWOOF-2020-04-11T18:32:00.000Z-AngusWOOF-2019-11-03T15:30:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:32, 11 April 2020 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-AngusWOOF-2020-04-11T18:32:00.000Z-AngusWOOF-2019-11-03T15:30:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2020-04-11T18:32:00.000Z","author":"AngusWOOF","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-AngusWOOF-2020-04-11T18:32:00.000Z-AngusWOOF-2019-11-03T15:30:00.000Z","replies":["c-Oshwah-2020-10-14T11:07:00.000Z-AngusWOOF-2020-04-11T18:32:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-AngusWOOF-2020-04-11T18:32:00.000Z-AngusWOOF-2019-11-03T15:30:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><a href="/wiki/User:AngusWOOF" title="User:AngusWOOF"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Oshwah-2020-10-14T11:07:00.000Z-AngusWOOF-2020-04-11T18:32:00.000Z"></span>AngusWOOF</a> - I just now saw your suggestion here, and I believe that they've since been added. Either way, I think this extension of the list are good ones. :-) <a href="/wiki/User:Oshwah" title="User:Oshwah"><b><span style="color:#C00000">~Oshwah~</span></b></a><sup><small><b><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Oshwah" title="User talk:Oshwah"><span style="color:blue">(talk)</span></a> <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Oshwah" title="Special:Contributions/Oshwah"><span style="color:green">(contribs)</span></a></b></small></sup> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Identifying_blatant_advertising#c-Oshwah-2020-10-14T11:07:00.000Z-AngusWOOF-2020-04-11T18:32:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:07, 14 October 2020 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Oshwah-2020-10-14T11:07:00.000Z-AngusWOOF-2020-04-11T18:32:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2020-10-14T11:07:00.000Z","author":"Oshwah","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Oshwah-2020-10-14T11:07:00.000Z-AngusWOOF-2020-04-11T18:32:00.000Z","replies":[],"displayName":"~Oshwah~"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Oshwah-2020-10-14T11:07:00.000Z-AngusWOOF-2020-04-11T18:32:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-WhatamIdoing-20230907031500-AngusWOOF-2019-11-03T15:30:00.000Z"></span>I don't think that writing "Dr. I.M. Portant" is blatant advertising. The idea that a medical doctor gets written about as "Gregory House, M.D." instead of "Dr. House" feels unnatural to a lot of people. In some cultures, it is considered rude to omit honorifics. We should follow our house style, but writing something like "Dr. House said that it's never lupus" is not any type of actual <a href="/wiki/Advertising" title="Advertising">advertising</a>. If you're running into people who make this mistake, point them at <a href="/wiki/MOS:DOCTOR" class="mw-redirect" title="MOS:DOCTOR">MOS:DOCTOR</a> but don't tell them that their stylistic error is a paid promotion. <a href="/wiki/User:WhatamIdoing" title="User:WhatamIdoing">WhatamIdoing</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:WhatamIdoing" title="User talk:WhatamIdoing">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Identifying_blatant_advertising#c-WhatamIdoing-20230907031500-AngusWOOF-2019-11-03T15:30:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">03:15, 7 September 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-WhatamIdoing-20230907031500-AngusWOOF-2019-11-03T15:30:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20230907031500","author":"WhatamIdoing","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-WhatamIdoing-20230907031500-AngusWOOF-2019-11-03T15:30:00.000Z","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-WhatamIdoing-20230907031500-AngusWOOF-2019-11-03T15:30:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <!-- NewPP limit report Parsed by mw‐web.codfw.main‐6df7948d6c‐strx4 Cached time: 20241127143931 Cache expiry: 864000 Reduced expiry: true Complications: [vary‐revision‐sha1] DiscussionTools time usage: 0.009 seconds CPU time usage: 0.146 seconds Real time usage: 0.176 seconds Preprocessor visited node count: 2956/1000000 Post‐expand include size: 11913/2097152 bytes Template argument size: 372/2097152 bytes Highest expansion depth: 15/100 Expensive parser function count: 4/500 Unstrip recursion depth: 0/20 Unstrip post‐expand size: 8880/5000000 bytes Lua time usage: 0.083/10.000 seconds Lua memory usage: 1387689/52428800 bytes Number of Wikibase entities loaded: 0/400 --> <!-- Transclusion expansion time report (%,ms,calls,template) 100.00% 139.541 1 -total 97.83% 136.513 1 Template:WikiProject_banner_shell 63.89% 89.153 1 Template:WikiProject_Essays 23.53% 32.838 8 User:AntiCompositeBot/EssayImpact/data 18.26% 25.482 1 Template:WikiProject_Wikipedia_essays/importance 2.04% 2.845 1 Template:U --> <!-- Saved in parser cache with key enwiki:pcache:54046102:|#|:idhash:canonical and timestamp 20241127143931 and revision id 1243830208. 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