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This criticism does not apply to ASP.NET and ASP applications running side by side on IIS 7. With IIS 7, modules may be run in an integrated pipeline that allows modules written in any language to be executed for any request.[18] </p> </blockquote> <p>It seems there is no (easy) way to share session state between ASP.NET and legacy (or classic) ASP pages both placed in the same directory (hence in a same web application). There a lot of solutions involving databases and a lot of changes on both places (ASP.NET and ASP), but nothing working out-of-the-box. Is it possible this statement to be valid only for ASP.NET applications, say one that is 1.1 and another that is 2.0? --<a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/85.130.3.78" title="Special:Contributions/85.130.3.78">85.130.3.78</a> (<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:85.130.3.78&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:85.130.3.78 (page does not exist)">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:ASP.NET#c-85.130.3.78-2009-03-23T11:23:00.000Z-Session_State_sharing_nowhere_to_be_found" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:23, 23 March 2009 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-85.130.3.78-2009-03-23T11:23:00.000Z-Session_State_sharing_nowhere_to_be_found"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2009-03-23T11:23:00.000Z","author":"85.130.3.78","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-85.130.3.78-2009-03-23T11:23:00.000Z-Session_State_sharing_nowhere_to_be_found","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-85.130.3.78-2009-03-23T11:23:00.000Z-Session_State_sharing_nowhere_to_be_found"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Unfree-2009-11-04T16:01:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Clean_code-2009-11-04T16:01:00.000Z","replies":["c-Unfree-2009-11-04T16:01:00.000Z-Clean_code"],"text":"Clean code","linkableTitle":"Clean code"}--><h2 id="Clean_code" data-mw-thread-id="h-Clean_code-2009-11-04T16:01:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Clean_code-2009-11-04T16:01:00.000Z"></span>Clean code<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Clean_code-2009-11-04T16:01:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Talk:ASP.NET&action=edit&section=2" title="Edit section: Clean code"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Unfree-2009-11-04T16:01:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Clean_code-2009-11-04T16:01:00.000Z","replies":["c-Unfree-2009-11-04T16:01:00.000Z-Clean_code"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-Unfree-2009-11-04T16:01:00.000Z-Clean_code","timestamp":"2009-11-04T16:01:00.000Z"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__1__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__1__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Unfree-2009-11-04T16:01:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Clean_code-2009-11-04T16:01:00.000Z","replies":["c-Unfree-2009-11-04T16:01:00.000Z-Clean_code"],"text":"Clean code","linkableTitle":"Clean code"}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Unfree-2009-11-04T16:01:00.000Z-Clean_code"></span>The article refers to "clean code" without a link. Quotation marks are around "clean", but not "code". If this is a reference to <a href="/wiki/Robert_Cecil_Martin" class="mw-redirect" title="Robert Cecil Martin">Robert C Martin</a>'s concept of clean code, I recommend extending the quotation marks to surround both words, and making that a link, either to an article on clean code, or at least to the one on Martin. <a href="/wiki/User:Unfree" title="User:Unfree">Unfree</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Unfree" title="User talk:Unfree">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:ASP.NET#c-Unfree-2009-11-04T16:01:00.000Z-Clean_code" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:01, 4 November 2009 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Unfree-2009-11-04T16:01:00.000Z-Clean_code"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2009-11-04T16:01:00.000Z","author":"Unfree","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Unfree-2009-11-04T16:01:00.000Z-Clean_code","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Unfree-2009-11-04T16:01:00.000Z-Clean_code"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Vdboor-2009-12-10T09:42:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Information_about_ViewState_incorrect-2009-12-10T09:42:00.000Z","replies":["c-Vdboor-2009-12-10T09:42:00.000Z-Information_about_ViewState_incorrect","c-220.226.191.107-2010-01-09T03:51:00.000Z-Information_about_ViewState_incorrect"],"text":"Information about ViewState incorrect","linkableTitle":"Information about ViewState incorrect"}--><h2 id="Information_about_ViewState_incorrect" data-mw-thread-id="h-Information_about_ViewState_incorrect-2009-12-10T09:42:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Information_about_ViewState_incorrect-2009-12-10T09:42:00.000Z"></span>Information about ViewState incorrect<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Information_about_ViewState_incorrect-2009-12-10T09:42:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Talk:ASP.NET&action=edit&section=3" title="Edit section: Information about ViewState incorrect"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Vdboor-2009-12-10T09:42:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Information_about_ViewState_incorrect-2009-12-10T09:42:00.000Z","replies":["c-Vdboor-2009-12-10T09:42:00.000Z-Information_about_ViewState_incorrect","c-220.226.191.107-2010-01-09T03:51:00.000Z-Information_about_ViewState_incorrect"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-220.226.191.107-2010-01-09T03:51:00.000Z-Information_about_ViewState_incorrect","timestamp":"2010-01-09T03:51:00.000Z"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__2__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__2__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Vdboor-2009-12-10T09:42:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Information_about_ViewState_incorrect-2009-12-10T09:42:00.000Z","replies":["c-Vdboor-2009-12-10T09:42:00.000Z-Information_about_ViewState_incorrect","c-220.226.191.107-2010-01-09T03:51:00.000Z-Information_about_ViewState_incorrect"],"text":"Information about ViewState incorrect","linkableTitle":"Information about ViewState incorrect"}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Vdboor-2009-12-10T09:42:00.000Z-Information_about_ViewState_incorrect"></span>The viewstate does not track form values, it's a source of confusion amongs a lot of ASP.NET programmers. </p><p>Form values are already sent with the postback data, so these don't have to be in the viewstate. See: </p> <ul><li><a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ms972976.aspx">http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ms972976.aspx</a></li> <li><a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="https://weblogs.asp.net/infinitiesloop/archive/2006/08/03/Truly-Understanding-Viewstate.aspx">http://weblogs.asp.net/infinitiesloop/archive/2006/08/03/Truly-Understanding-Viewstate.aspx</a></li></ul> <p>Viewstate only has to contain the state which changed from the defaults set in the ASCX files and OnInit() method. That includes: </p> <ul><li>modifications by a event handler (e.g. showing an panel after a OnClick event -> the Visibility has to be tracked and restored)</li> <li>modifications by the `Page_Load()` event.</li></ul> <p>Programmers who fill the default Page_Load() method, end up with a huge ViewState. This state is transmitted back and forth with every page request, causing performance issues. </p><p><a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Vdboor&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Vdboor (page does not exist)">Vdboor</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Vdboor" title="User talk:Vdboor">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:ASP.NET#c-Vdboor-2009-12-10T09:42:00.000Z-Information_about_ViewState_incorrect" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:42, 10 December 2009 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Vdboor-2009-12-10T09:42:00.000Z-Information_about_ViewState_incorrect"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span 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href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:ASP.NET#c-220.226.191.107-2010-01-09T03:51:00.000Z-Information_about_ViewState_incorrect" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">03:51, 9 January 2010 (UTC)</a></span><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-220.226.191.107-2010-01-09T03:51:00.000Z-Information_about_ViewState_incorrect"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2010-01-09T03:51:00.000Z","author":"220.226.191.107","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-220.226.191.107-2010-01-09T03:51:00.000Z-Information_about_ViewState_incorrect","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-220.226.191.107-2010-01-09T03:51:00.000Z-Information_about_ViewState_incorrect"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-97.102.228.141-2010-02-25T06:29:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Faulty_Criticisms-2010-02-25T06:29:00.000Z","replies":["c-97.102.228.141-2010-02-25T06:29:00.000Z-Faulty_Criticisms","c-99.224.141.81-2010-07-10T17:29:00.000Z-Faulty_Criticisms","c-94.5.13.206-2010-11-22T12:34:00.000Z-Faulty_Criticisms"],"text":"Faulty Criticisms","linkableTitle":"Faulty Criticisms"}--><h2 id="Faulty_Criticisms" data-mw-thread-id="h-Faulty_Criticisms-2010-02-25T06:29:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Faulty_Criticisms-2010-02-25T06:29:00.000Z"></span>Faulty Criticisms<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Faulty_Criticisms-2010-02-25T06:29:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Talk:ASP.NET&action=edit&section=4" title="Edit section: Faulty Criticisms"><span>edit</span></a><span 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class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-97.102.228.141-2010-02-25T06:29:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Faulty_Criticisms-2010-02-25T06:29:00.000Z","replies":["c-97.102.228.141-2010-02-25T06:29:00.000Z-Faulty_Criticisms","c-99.224.141.81-2010-07-10T17:29:00.000Z-Faulty_Criticisms","c-94.5.13.206-2010-11-22T12:34:00.000Z-Faulty_Criticisms"],"text":"Faulty Criticisms","linkableTitle":"Faulty Criticisms"}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-97.102.228.141-2010-02-25T06:29:00.000Z-Faulty_Criticisms"></span>I believe the criticism section parts regarding session/state management was written by someone who did not fully understand the technology. What is being refered to here are inprocess sessions, one of the many ways ASP.NET/IIS can handle session data, and only a valid solution for the smallest of deployments. Session data storage is typically handled outside of the webserver that way a single site can be serviced by many web servers and gracefully handle server failures. </p><p>ASP.NET handles using sql as a session store, and comes with scripts to build these databases (except .net 1.0 which is located here. <a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="http://support.microsoft.com/kb/311209">http://support.microsoft.com/kb/311209</a> ) </p><p>There are plenty of valid criticisms to make about ASP.NET (Memory use, first hit compiling delay, inability to really just use the pieces you want, not embracing friendly/suffixless urls, etc) without traveling down such subjective criticisms <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Signatures" title="Wikipedia:Signatures">unsigned</a> comment added by <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/97.102.228.141" title="Special:Contributions/97.102.228.141">97.102.228.141</a> (<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:97.102.228.141&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:97.102.228.141 (page does not exist)">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:ASP.NET#c-97.102.228.141-2010-02-25T06:29:00.000Z-Faulty_Criticisms" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">06:29, 25 February 2010 (UTC)</a></span><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-97.102.228.141-2010-02-25T06:29:00.000Z-Faulty_Criticisms"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2010-02-25T06:29:00.000Z","author":"97.102.228.141","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-97.102.228.141-2010-02-25T06:29:00.000Z-Faulty_Criticisms","replies":["c-Bill-2010-05-16T10:31:00.000Z-97.102.228.141-2010-02-25T06:29:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-97.102.228.141-2010-02-25T06:29:00.000Z-Faulty_Criticisms"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Bill-2010-05-16T10:31:00.000Z-97.102.228.141-2010-02-25T06:29:00.000Z"></span>Just come across this page and the criticism is mostly unsourced. I'm going to remove the unsourced material as original conclusions which don't appear to be coming from a third party source. Like you say, there is criticism out there which is citable, however the current criticism does not seem appropriate without sources. --<a href="/wiki/User:Bill" title="User:Bill">Bill</a> <sup>(<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Bill" title="User talk:Bill">talk</a>|<a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Bill" title="Special:Contributions/Bill">contribs</a>)</sup> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:ASP.NET#c-Bill-2010-05-16T10:31:00.000Z-97.102.228.141-2010-02-25T06:29:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:31, 16 May 2010 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Bill-2010-05-16T10:31:00.000Z-97.102.228.141-2010-02-25T06:29:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2010-05-16T10:31:00.000Z","author":"Bill","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Bill-2010-05-16T10:31:00.000Z-97.102.228.141-2010-02-25T06:29:00.000Z","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Bill-2010-05-16T10:31:00.000Z-97.102.228.141-2010-02-25T06:29:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-99.224.141.81-2010-07-10T17:29:00.000Z-Faulty_Criticisms"></span>"At the server side, the application may change the viewstate, if the processing requires a change of state of any control." Huh? This isn't a well formed sentence... <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Signatures" title="Wikipedia:Signatures">unsigned</a> comment added by <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/99.224.141.81" title="Special:Contributions/99.224.141.81">99.224.141.81</a> (<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:99.224.141.81&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:99.224.141.81 (page does not exist)">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:ASP.NET#c-99.224.141.81-2010-07-10T17:29:00.000Z-Faulty_Criticisms" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:29, 10 July 2010 (UTC)</a></span><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-99.224.141.81-2010-07-10T17:29:00.000Z-Faulty_Criticisms"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2010-07-10T17:29:00.000Z","author":"99.224.141.81","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-99.224.141.81-2010-07-10T17:29:00.000Z-Faulty_Criticisms","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-99.224.141.81-2010-07-10T17:29:00.000Z-Faulty_Criticisms"></span> </p><p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-94.5.13.206-2010-11-22T12:34:00.000Z-Faulty_Criticisms"></span>Surely there should be a lot more in Criticism than there currently is. The only item in there at the moment has more to do with IIS than ASP.NET, but there are plenty of criticisms regularly levelled against ASP.NET - the viewstate becoming ridiculousy huge, the javascript requirement for many of the controls, the way it messess around with your HTML id's, the fact that even basic validation is done on the server, loss of control over the source, the noticable delay when doing a first compile, relatively high server requirements, the desktop style model is actually rather unsuitable for most websites, and the fact that many of the methods pushed by Microsoft are only required due to this odd development style in the first place. Of course, some of these thins are more of a problem with the way Visual Studo handles ASP.NET solutions, but that hasn't seemed to have stopped anyone using such things as supposed benefits. Half of the benefits listed are only benefits if you don't know how to do it yourself in the firs place. Also, you can get around many of these problems by not using feature X or Y, but if you have to do that for most of the features, you have to ask if you're using the right tchnologies in the first place. Horribly unbalanced shill articles like this are why no-one believes anything they read on Wiki any more. <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Signatures" title="Wikipedia:Signatures">unsigned</a> comment added by <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/94.5.13.206" title="Special:Contributions/94.5.13.206">94.5.13.206</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:94.5.13.206" title="User talk:94.5.13.206">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:ASP.NET#c-94.5.13.206-2010-11-22T12:34:00.000Z-Faulty_Criticisms" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:34, 22 November 2010 (UTC)</a></span><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-94.5.13.206-2010-11-22T12:34:00.000Z-Faulty_Criticisms"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2010-11-22T12:34:00.000Z","author":"94.5.13.206","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-94.5.13.206-2010-11-22T12:34:00.000Z-Faulty_Criticisms","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-94.5.13.206-2010-11-22T12:34:00.000Z-Faulty_Criticisms"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-74.176.210.68-2011-05-16T03:28:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-\"Rendering_Technique\"_section_is_terrible.-2011-05-16T03:28:00.000Z","replies":["c-74.176.210.68-2011-05-16T03:28:00.000Z-\"Rendering_Technique\"_section_is_terrible."],"text":"\"Rendering Technique\" section is terrible.","linkableTitle":"\"Rendering Technique\" section is terrible."}--><h2 id=""Rendering_Technique"_section_is_terrible." data-mw-thread-id="h-"Rendering_Technique"_section_is_terrible.-2011-05-16T03:28:00.000Z"><span id=".22Rendering_Technique.22_section_is_terrible."></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-"Rendering_Technique"_section_is_terrible.-2011-05-16T03:28:00.000Z"></span>"Rendering Technique" section is terrible.<span data-mw-comment-end="h-"Rendering_Technique"_section_is_terrible.-2011-05-16T03:28:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Talk:ASP.NET&action=edit&section=5" title="Edit section: "Rendering Technique" section is terrible."><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-74.176.210.68-2011-05-16T03:28:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-\"Rendering_Technique\"_section_is_terrible.-2011-05-16T03:28:00.000Z","replies":["c-74.176.210.68-2011-05-16T03:28:00.000Z-\"Rendering_Technique\"_section_is_terrible."]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-74.176.210.68-2011-05-16T03:28:00.000Z-\"Rendering_Technique\"_section_is_terrible.","timestamp":"2011-05-16T03:28:00.000Z"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__1__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__1__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-74.176.210.68-2011-05-16T03:28:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-\"Rendering_Technique\"_section_is_terrible.-2011-05-16T03:28:00.000Z","replies":["c-74.176.210.68-2011-05-16T03:28:00.000Z-\"Rendering_Technique\"_section_is_terrible."],"text":"\"Rendering Technique\" section is terrible.","linkableTitle":"\"Rendering Technique\" section is terrible."}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-74.176.210.68-2011-05-16T03:28:00.000Z-"Rendering_Technique"_section_is_terrible."></span>I defy anybody to tell me what this means: </p><p>"ASP.NET uses a visited composites rendering technique. During compilation, the template (.aspx) file is compiled into initialization code which builds a control tree (the composite) representing the original template. Literal text goes into instances of the Literal control class, and server controls are represented by instances of a specific control class. The initialization code is combined with user-written code (usually by the assembly of multiple partial classes) and results in a class specific for the page. The page doubles as the root of the control tree." <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Signatures" title="Wikipedia:Signatures">unsigned</a> comment added by <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/74.176.210.68" title="Special:Contributions/74.176.210.68">74.176.210.68</a> (<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:74.176.210.68&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:74.176.210.68 (page does not exist)">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:ASP.NET#c-74.176.210.68-2011-05-16T03:28:00.000Z-"Rendering_Technique"_section_is_terrible." class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">03:28, 16 May 2011 (UTC)</a></span><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-74.176.210.68-2011-05-16T03:28:00.000Z-"Rendering_Technique"_section_is_terrible."><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2011-05-16T03:28:00.000Z","author":"74.176.210.68","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-74.176.210.68-2011-05-16T03:28:00.000Z-\"Rendering_Technique\"_section_is_terrible.","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-74.176.210.68-2011-05-16T03:28:00.000Z-"Rendering_Technique"_section_is_terrible."></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Aidilfbk-2011-12-05T13:40:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-\"Examples_Inline_Code\"_Vandalism-2011-12-05T13:40:00.000Z","replies":["c-Aidilfbk-2011-12-05T13:40:00.000Z-\"Examples_Inline_Code\"_Vandalism"],"text":"\"Examples Inline Code\" Vandalism","linkableTitle":"\"Examples Inline Code\" Vandalism"}--><h2 id=""Examples_Inline_Code"_Vandalism" data-mw-thread-id="h-"Examples_Inline_Code"_Vandalism-2011-12-05T13:40:00.000Z"><span id=".22Examples_Inline_Code.22_Vandalism"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-"Examples_Inline_Code"_Vandalism-2011-12-05T13:40:00.000Z"></span>"Examples Inline Code" Vandalism<span data-mw-comment-end="h-"Examples_Inline_Code"_Vandalism-2011-12-05T13:40:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Talk:ASP.NET&action=edit&section=6" title="Edit section: "Examples Inline Code" Vandalism"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Aidilfbk-2011-12-05T13:40:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-\"Examples_Inline_Code\"_Vandalism-2011-12-05T13:40:00.000Z","replies":["c-Aidilfbk-2011-12-05T13:40:00.000Z-\"Examples_Inline_Code\"_Vandalism"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-Enric_Naval-2011-12-05T15:30:00.000Z-Aidilfbk-2011-12-05T13:40:00.000Z","timestamp":"2011-12-05T15:30:00.000Z"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__2__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__2__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Aidilfbk-2011-12-05T13:40:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-\"Examples_Inline_Code\"_Vandalism-2011-12-05T13:40:00.000Z","replies":["c-Aidilfbk-2011-12-05T13:40:00.000Z-\"Examples_Inline_Code\"_Vandalism"],"text":"\"Examples Inline Code\" Vandalism","linkableTitle":"\"Examples Inline Code\" Vandalism"}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Aidilfbk-2011-12-05T13:40:00.000Z-"Examples_Inline_Code"_Vandalism"></span>Someone with the IP address <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/117.201.97.210" title="Special:Contributions/117.201.97.210">117.201.97.210</a> <span class="plainlinks"><a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=ASP.NET&diff=457322078&oldid=457284014">changed a portion</a></span> of the <a href="/wiki/ASP.NET#Inline_code" title="ASP.NET">example code</a> on the page. I would revert this change but I'm not sure how to do it without affecting any other edits made to the article after that edit. <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Aidilfbk&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Aidilfbk (page does not exist)">aidilfbk</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Aidilfbk" title="User talk:Aidilfbk">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:ASP.NET#c-Aidilfbk-2011-12-05T13:40:00.000Z-"Examples_Inline_Code"_Vandalism" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:40, 5 December 2011 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Aidilfbk-2011-12-05T13:40:00.000Z-"Examples_Inline_Code"_Vandalism"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2011-12-05T13:40:00.000Z","author":"Aidilfbk","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Aidilfbk-2011-12-05T13:40:00.000Z-\"Examples_Inline_Code\"_Vandalism","replies":["c-Enric_Naval-2011-12-05T15:30:00.000Z-Aidilfbk-2011-12-05T13:40:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Aidilfbk-2011-12-05T13:40:00.000Z-"Examples_Inline_Code"_Vandalism"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Enric_Naval-2011-12-05T15:30:00.000Z-Aidilfbk-2011-12-05T13:40:00.000Z"></span>Thanks for the warning. I just removed it. --<a href="/wiki/User:Enric_Naval" title="User:Enric Naval">Enric Naval</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Enric_Naval" title="User talk:Enric Naval">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:ASP.NET#c-Enric_Naval-2011-12-05T15:30:00.000Z-Aidilfbk-2011-12-05T13:40:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:30, 5 December 2011 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Enric_Naval-2011-12-05T15:30:00.000Z-Aidilfbk-2011-12-05T13:40:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2011-12-05T15:30:00.000Z","author":"Enric Naval","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Enric_Naval-2011-12-05T15:30:00.000Z-Aidilfbk-2011-12-05T13:40:00.000Z","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Enric_Naval-2011-12-05T15:30:00.000Z-Aidilfbk-2011-12-05T13:40:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Moraleboost-2012-12-01T04:05:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-History_Section_Out_of_Date-2012-12-01T04:05:00.000Z","replies":["c-Moraleboost-2012-12-01T04:05:00.000Z-History_Section_Out_of_Date"],"text":"History Section Out of Date","linkableTitle":"History Section Out of Date"}--><h2 id="History_Section_Out_of_Date" data-mw-thread-id="h-History_Section_Out_of_Date-2012-12-01T04:05:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-History_Section_Out_of_Date-2012-12-01T04:05:00.000Z"></span>History Section Out of Date<span data-mw-comment-end="h-History_Section_Out_of_Date-2012-12-01T04:05:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a 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class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Moraleboost-2012-12-01T04:05:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-History_Section_Out_of_Date-2012-12-01T04:05:00.000Z","replies":["c-Moraleboost-2012-12-01T04:05:00.000Z-History_Section_Out_of_Date"],"text":"History Section Out of Date","linkableTitle":"History Section Out of Date"}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Moraleboost-2012-12-01T04:05:00.000Z-History_Section_Out_of_Date"></span>The "History" section seems wildly out of date; it ends in 2003, before the release of ASP.NET 2.0. <a href="/wiki/User:Moraleboost" title="User:Moraleboost">Moraleboost</a> (<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Moraleboost&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:Moraleboost (page does not exist)">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:ASP.NET#c-Moraleboost-2012-12-01T04:05:00.000Z-History_Section_Out_of_Date" 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One of the citations in the 4.8.1 section is actually about 4.8 and it gives the release date as 2019 rather than 2022, the date given in the table. So, it seems there is some confusion between these two versions. Can someone more knowledgeable than me clarify? <a href="/wiki/User:Jno.skinner" class="mw-redirect" title="User:Jno.skinner">Jno.skinner</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Jno.skinner" class="mw-redirect" title="User talk:Jno.skinner">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:ASP.NET#c-Jno.skinner-20240924173400-Version_4.8_missing" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:34, 24 September 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Jno.skinner-20240924173400-Version_4.8_missing"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240924173400","author":"Jno.skinner","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Jno.skinner-20240924173400-Version_4.8_missing","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Jno.skinner-20240924173400-Version_4.8_missing"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-DDFoster96-20241101154200","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-License-20241101154200","replies":["c-DDFoster96-20241101154200-License"],"text":"License","linkableTitle":"License"}--><h2 id="License" data-mw-thread-id="h-License-20241101154200"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-License-20241101154200"></span>License<span data-mw-comment-end="h-License-20241101154200"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Talk:ASP.NET&action=edit&section=11" title="Edit section: License"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-DDFoster96-20241101154200","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-License-20241101154200","replies":["c-DDFoster96-20241101154200-License"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-DDFoster96-20241101154200-License","timestamp":"20241101154200"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__1__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__1__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-DDFoster96-20241101154200","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-License-20241101154200","replies":["c-DDFoster96-20241101154200-License"],"text":"License","linkableTitle":"License"}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-DDFoster96-20241101154200-License"></span>The article's short description (only visible on mobile or at the top of the article source) describes ASP.NET as 'Open-source web application framework', but the infobox says 'License Proprietary software' One of them must be wrong. The infobox cites a near decade old source, so things may have changed in the meantime, but I'm not knowledgable enough on ASP.NET to know the correct answer. <a href="/wiki/User:DDFoster96" title="User:DDFoster96">DDFoster96</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:DDFoster96" title="User talk:DDFoster96">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:ASP.NET#c-DDFoster96-20241101154200-License" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:42, 1 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-DDFoster96-20241101154200-License"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241101154200","author":"DDFoster96","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-DDFoster96-20241101154200-License","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-DDFoster96-20241101154200-License"></span> </p> <!-- NewPP limit report Parsed by mw‐web.codfw.main‐749c498c8d‐tnx2w Cached time: 20250219150909 Cache expiry: 864000 Reduced expiry: true Complications: [vary‐revision‐sha1, show‐toc] DiscussionTools time usage: 0.033 seconds CPU time usage: 0.331 seconds Real time usage: 0.464 seconds Preprocessor visited node count: 2865/1000000 Post‐expand include size: 41577/2097152 bytes Template argument size: 3474/2097152 bytes Highest expansion depth: 16/100 Expensive parser function count: 41/500 Unstrip recursion depth: 0/20 Unstrip post‐expand size: 21933/5000000 bytes Lua time usage: 0.129/10.000 seconds Lua memory usage: 3442163/52428800 bytes Number of Wikibase entities loaded: 0/400 --> <!-- Transclusion expansion time report (%,ms,calls,template) 100.00% 356.111 1 -total 56.59% 201.527 1 Template:Talkheader 24.05% 85.656 1 Template:WikiProject_banner_shell 13.32% 47.435 1 Template:WikiProject_Computing 11.29% 40.201 2 Template:Yearly_archive_list 11.27% 40.128 1 Template:Pagetype 10.30% 36.687 1 Template:Mergedfrom 9.71% 34.566 2 Template:For_loop 8.20% 29.185 1 Template:Find_sources 7.64% 27.198 1 Template:Check_talk --> <!-- Saved in parser cache with key enwiki:pcache:901921:|#|:idhash:canonical and timestamp 20250219150909 and revision id 1254765432. 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