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class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Correction_-_Bryant_&_Stratton_College" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Correction_-_Bryant_&_Stratton_College"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">10</span> <span>Correction - Bryant & Stratton College</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">4 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Correction_-_Bryant_&_Stratton_College-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Poverty" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Poverty"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">11</span> <span>Poverty</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Poverty-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-not_selfpromo" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#not_selfpromo"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">12</span> <span>not selfpromo</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">4 comments</span> <ul id="toc-not_selfpromo-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Correction_-_Definition_of_Risk" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Correction_-_Definition_of_Risk"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">13</span> <span>Correction - Definition of Risk</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Correction_-_Definition_of_Risk-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-I’ve_protected_0" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#I’ve_protected_0"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">14</span> <span>I’ve protected 0</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">5 comments</span> <ul id="toc-I’ve_protected_0-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-How_to_create_a_new_page" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#How_to_create_a_new_page"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">15</span> <span>How to create a new page</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">2 comments</span> <ul id="toc-How_to_create_a_new_page-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-"AlphaFold_paper"" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#"AlphaFold_paper""> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">16</span> <span>"AlphaFold paper"</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">8 comments</span> <ul id="toc-"AlphaFold_paper"-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-preprint_as_a_source" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#preprint_as_a_source"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">17</span> <span>preprint as a source</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">2 comments</span> <ul id="toc-preprint_as_a_source-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-organic_farming_link" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#organic_farming_link"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">18</span> <span>organic farming link</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">2 comments</span> <ul id="toc-organic_farming_link-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Help_regarding_fit_of_external_link" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Help_regarding_fit_of_external_link"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">19</span> <span>Help regarding fit of external link</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">3 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Help_regarding_fit_of_external_link-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Captain_Wikipedia_is_available!" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Captain_Wikipedia_is_available!"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">20</span> <span>Captain Wikipedia is available!</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Captain_Wikipedia_is_available!-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Blogs_as_sources" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Blogs_as_sources"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">21</span> <span>Blogs as sources</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Blogs_as_sources-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Regarding_reverting_edits_to_the_Ambient_Intelligence_page" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Regarding_reverting_edits_to_the_Ambient_Intelligence_page"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">22</span> <span>Regarding reverting edits to the Ambient Intelligence page</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">3 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Regarding_reverting_edits_to_the_Ambient_Intelligence_page-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-References_to_chesshistory.com" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#References_to_chesshistory.com"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">23</span> <span>References to chesshistory.com</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">2 comments</span> <ul id="toc-References_to_chesshistory.com-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Overzealous_Deletion" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Overzealous_Deletion"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">24</span> <span>Overzealous Deletion</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">3 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Overzealous_Deletion-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Regarding_reverting_edits_to_Medical_device_page" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Regarding_reverting_edits_to_Medical_device_page"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">25</span> <span>Regarding reverting edits to Medical device page</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">2 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Regarding_reverting_edits_to_Medical_device_page-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Regarding_reverting_edits_to_the_polyominoes_page" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Regarding_reverting_edits_to_the_polyominoes_page"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">26</span> <span>Regarding reverting edits to the polyominoes page</span> </div> </a> <ul id="toc-Regarding_reverting_edits_to_the_polyominoes_page-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Edward_Winter" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Edward_Winter"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">27</span> <span>Edward Winter</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">4 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Edward_Winter-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Images" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Images"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">28</span> <span>Images</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">13 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Images-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-removal_of_relevant_content_from_a_wikipedia_page" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#removal_of_relevant_content_from_a_wikipedia_page"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">29</span> <span>removal of relevant content from a wikipedia page</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">2 comments</span> <ul id="toc-removal_of_relevant_content_from_a_wikipedia_page-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Sorry_about_wasting_everyone's_time" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Sorry_about_wasting_everyone's_time"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">30</span> <span>Sorry about wasting everyone's time</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">2 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Sorry_about_wasting_everyone's_time-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Request_for_the_Removal_of_Block_on_[www.techpedo.com]_from_Wikipedia" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Request_for_the_Removal_of_Block_on_[www.techpedo.com]_from_Wikipedia"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">31</span> <span>Request for the Removal of Block on [www.techpedo.com] from Wikipedia</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">2 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Request_for_the_Removal_of_Block_on_[www.techpedo.com]_from_Wikipedia-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Removal_of_Pages" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Removal_of_Pages"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">32</span> <span>Removal of Pages</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">9 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Removal_of_Pages-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Dvorak_citespam" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Dvorak_citespam"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">33</span> <span>Dvorak citespam</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">5 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Dvorak_citespam-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Incorporate_external_link." class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Incorporate_external_link."> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">34</span> <span>Incorporate external link.</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">2 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Incorporate_external_link.-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Removal_of_info._related_to_MaaS" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Removal_of_info._related_to_MaaS"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">35</span> <span>Removal of info. related to MaaS</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">2 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Removal_of_info._related_to_MaaS-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Editing_Redeemer_Page" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Editing_Redeemer_Page"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">36</span> <span>Editing Redeemer Page</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">6 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Editing_Redeemer_Page-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Your_message_to_me_about_removals" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Your_message_to_me_about_removals"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">37</span> <span>Your message to me about removals</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">5 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Your_message_to_me_about_removals-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Appraisal_spam" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Appraisal_spam"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">38</span> <span>Appraisal spam</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">4 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Appraisal_spam-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Epileptic_Animals_page" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Epileptic_Animals_page"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">39</span> <span>Epileptic Animals page</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">2 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Epileptic_Animals_page-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Removal_of_referenced_stats_from_Solana_intro" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Removal_of_referenced_stats_from_Solana_intro"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">40</span> <span>Removal of referenced stats from Solana intro</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">2 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Removal_of_referenced_stats_from_Solana_intro-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Strange_threats_and_false_accusations." class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Strange_threats_and_false_accusations."> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">41</span> <span>Strange threats and false accusations.</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">4 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Strange_threats_and_false_accusations.-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Edward_Winter_(chess_historian)" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Edward_Winter_(chess_historian)"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">42</span> <span>Edward Winter (chess historian)</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">5 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Edward_Winter_(chess_historian)-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-euro" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#euro"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">43</span> <span>euro</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-euro-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-About_those_external_links" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#About_those_external_links"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">44</span> <span>About those external links</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">4 comments</span> <ul id="toc-About_those_external_links-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Apology_notice" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Apology_notice"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">45</span> <span>Apology notice</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Apology_notice-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Emotion_edit-" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Emotion_edit-"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">46</span> <span>Emotion edit-</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">16 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Emotion_edit--sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Draft:Multi-accounting_browser" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Draft:Multi-accounting_browser"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">47</span> <span>Draft:Multi-accounting browser</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">5 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Draft:Multi-accounting_browser-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-why_do_you_think_items_without_wikipedia_article_are_not_allowed_in_comment_hostings_list?" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#why_do_you_think_items_without_wikipedia_article_are_not_allowed_in_comment_hostings_list?"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">48</span> <span>why do you think items without wikipedia article are not allowed in comment hostings list?</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">6 comments</span> <ul id="toc-why_do_you_think_items_without_wikipedia_article_are_not_allowed_in_comment_hostings_list?-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Bullwhip_effect" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Bullwhip_effect"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">49</span> <span>Bullwhip effect</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Bullwhip_effect-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Reverting_promotional_edits_to_C-V2X_(again)" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Reverting_promotional_edits_to_C-V2X_(again)"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">50</span> <span>Reverting promotional edits to C-V2X (again)</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">2 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Reverting_promotional_edits_to_C-V2X_(again)-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-About_the_Ms._Gsptlsnz_page" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#About_the_Ms._Gsptlsnz_page"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">51</span> <span>About the Ms. Gsptlsnz page</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">5 comments</span> <ul id="toc-About_the_Ms._Gsptlsnz_page-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Edusemiotics_as_notable_subfield_of_semiotics" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Edusemiotics_as_notable_subfield_of_semiotics"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">52</span> <span>Edusemiotics as notable subfield of semiotics</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">3 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Edusemiotics_as_notable_subfield_of_semiotics-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Solana_blockchain_page" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Solana_blockchain_page"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">53</span> <span>Solana blockchain page</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">2 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Solana_blockchain_page-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-New_message_from_Aaron_Liu" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#New_message_from_Aaron_Liu"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">54</span> <span>New message from Aaron Liu</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-New_message_from_Aaron_Liu-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-About_the_pellet_mill_page" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#About_the_pellet_mill_page"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">55</span> <span>About the pellet mill page</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-About_the_pellet_mill_page-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Recent_changes_to_Solana_(blockchain_platform)" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Recent_changes_to_Solana_(blockchain_platform)"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">56</span> <span>Recent changes to Solana_(blockchain_platform)</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">5 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Recent_changes_to_Solana_(blockchain_platform)-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Fintech:_Revision_history_-_jargon_bomb" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Fintech:_Revision_history_-_jargon_bomb"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">57</span> <span>Fintech: Revision history - jargon bomb</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">6 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Fintech:_Revision_history_-_jargon_bomb-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-SOAP_and_gRPC_changes_by_ArtemArzamastcev" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#SOAP_and_gRPC_changes_by_ArtemArzamastcev"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">58</span> <span>SOAP and gRPC changes by ArtemArzamastcev</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">4 comments</span> <ul id="toc-SOAP_and_gRPC_changes_by_ArtemArzamastcev-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Renfield" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Renfield"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">59</span> <span><i>Renfield</i></span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">2 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Renfield-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-A_barnstar_for_you!" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#A_barnstar_for_you!"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">60</span> <span>A barnstar for you!</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-A_barnstar_for_you!-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-About_Rujak" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#About_Rujak"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">61</span> <span>About Rujak</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">2 comments</span> <ul id="toc-About_Rujak-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-So_I_can_just_claim..." class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#So_I_can_just_claim..."> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">62</span> <span>So I can just claim...</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">8 comments</span> <ul id="toc-So_I_can_just_claim...-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-A_barnstar_for_you!_2" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#A_barnstar_for_you!_2"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">63</span> <span>A barnstar for you!</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">2 comments</span> <ul id="toc-A_barnstar_for_you!_2-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Food_Studies_page" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Food_Studies_page"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">64</span> <span>Food Studies page</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">3 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Food_Studies_page-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Software_Modernization_page" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Software_Modernization_page"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">65</span> <span>Software Modernization page</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">2 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Software_Modernization_page-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Reinforcement_Theory_(OB_Mod)" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Reinforcement_Theory_(OB_Mod)"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">66</span> <span>Reinforcement Theory (OB Mod)</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">5 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Reinforcement_Theory_(OB_Mod)-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Male_Gaze_Article_Section:_Question" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Male_Gaze_Article_Section:_Question"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">67</span> <span>Male Gaze Article Section: Question</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">4 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Male_Gaze_Article_Section:_Question-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Race_and_Intelligence:_Question" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Race_and_Intelligence:_Question"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">68</span> <span>Race and Intelligence: Question</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">4 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Race_and_Intelligence:_Question-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Dragon_curve_in_Python" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Dragon_curve_in_Python"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">69</span> <span>Dragon curve in Python</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">6 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Dragon_curve_in_Python-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-ANI" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#ANI"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">70</span> <span>ANI</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-ANI-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Discussion_regarding_edits_on_Bundelkhand_and_Khangar_(community)_pages" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Discussion_regarding_edits_on_Bundelkhand_and_Khangar_(community)_pages"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">71</span> <span>Discussion regarding edits on Bundelkhand and Khangar (community) pages</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Discussion_regarding_edits_on_Bundelkhand_and_Khangar_(community)_pages-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-EMDR" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#EMDR"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">72</span> <span>EMDR</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">7 comments</span> <ul id="toc-EMDR-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Not_faced_by_anyone_your_view" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Not_faced_by_anyone_your_view"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">73</span> <span>Not faced by anyone your view</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">2 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Not_faced_by_anyone_your_view-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-No-Code_Development" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#No-Code_Development"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">74</span> <span>No-Code Development</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">8 comments</span> <ul id="toc-No-Code_Development-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-CO2_coalition" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#CO2_coalition"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">75</span> <span>CO2 coalition</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">3 comments</span> <ul id="toc-CO2_coalition-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-No_account_for_"User_talk:MrOllie"" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#No_account_for_"User_talk:MrOllie""> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">76</span> <span>No account for "User talk:MrOllie"</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">4 comments</span> <ul id="toc-No_account_for_"User_talk:MrOllie"-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Microbiome" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Microbiome"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">77</span> <span>Microbiome</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">14 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Microbiome-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Happy_First_Edit_Day!" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Happy_First_Edit_Day!"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">78</span> <span>Happy First Edit Day!</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Happy_First_Edit_Day!-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Device_fingerprint" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Device_fingerprint"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">79</span> <span>Device fingerprint</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">7 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Device_fingerprint-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Your_recent_contributions_to_Silver_nanoparticle" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Your_recent_contributions_to_Silver_nanoparticle"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">80</span> <span>Your recent contributions to Silver nanoparticle</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">2 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Your_recent_contributions_to_Silver_nanoparticle-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Secondary_sources" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Secondary_sources"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">81</span> <span>Secondary sources</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Secondary_sources-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-American_primacy" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#American_primacy"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">82</span> <span>American primacy</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">9 comments</span> <ul id="toc-American_primacy-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-deleting_my_edits" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#deleting_my_edits"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">83</span> <span>deleting my edits</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">8 comments</span> <ul id="toc-deleting_my_edits-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-List_of_environmental_organizations" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#List_of_environmental_organizations"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">84</span> <span>List of environmental organizations</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">2 comments</span> <ul id="toc-List_of_environmental_organizations-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Report_for_vandalism" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Report_for_vandalism"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">85</span> <span>Report for vandalism</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">9 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Report_for_vandalism-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Olfactory_art" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Olfactory_art"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">86</span> <span>Olfactory art</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">9 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Olfactory_art-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Linus_Pauling/Vitamin_C_section" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Linus_Pauling/Vitamin_C_section"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">87</span> <span>Linus Pauling/Vitamin C section</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">11 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Linus_Pauling/Vitamin_C_section-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-IRC_Hash_Tags" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#IRC_Hash_Tags"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">88</span> <span>IRC Hash Tags</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">2 comments</span> <ul id="toc-IRC_Hash_Tags-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Question_about_website_inclusion" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Question_about_website_inclusion"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">89</span> <span>Question about website inclusion</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">2 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Question_about_website_inclusion-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-T-Coffee_Deletions" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#T-Coffee_Deletions"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">90</span> <span>T-Coffee Deletions</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">2 comments</span> <ul id="toc-T-Coffee_Deletions-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Software_Project_Management" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Software_Project_Management"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">91</span> <span>Software Project Management</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">2 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Software_Project_Management-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-ANI_about_your_recent_behavior_posted" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#ANI_about_your_recent_behavior_posted"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">92</span> <span>ANI about your recent behavior posted</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">5 comments</span> <ul id="toc-ANI_about_your_recent_behavior_posted-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Barnstar!" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Barnstar!"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">93</span> <span>Barnstar!</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Barnstar!-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Third_opinion_on_Talk:Aquatic_ape_hypothesis#Intro_relevance" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Third_opinion_on_Talk:Aquatic_ape_hypothesis#Intro_relevance"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">94</span> <span>Third opinion on Talk:Aquatic ape hypothesis#Intro relevance</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">3 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Third_opinion_on_Talk:Aquatic_ape_hypothesis#Intro_relevance-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Oh_no_they're_on_to_me._I_mean_us." class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Oh_no_they're_on_to_me._I_mean_us."> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">95</span> <span>Oh no they're on to me. I mean us.</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">2 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Oh_no_they're_on_to_me._I_mean_us.-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Copyvio_on_CADgene" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Copyvio_on_CADgene"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">96</span> <span>Copyvio on CADgene</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">2 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Copyvio_on_CADgene-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Recently_Reverted_Contributions" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Recently_Reverted_Contributions"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">97</span> <span>Recently Reverted Contributions</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Recently_Reverted_Contributions-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Software_project_management_2" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Software_project_management_2"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">98</span> <span>Software project management</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">2 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Software_project_management_2-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Psalms" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Psalms"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">99</span> <span>Psalms</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">2 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Psalms-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Question" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Question"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">100</span> <span>Question</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">2 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Question-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Psalms_2" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Psalms_2"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">101</span> <span>Psalms</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">4 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Psalms_2-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-World-Fashion" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#World-Fashion"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">102</span> <span>World-Fashion</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">16 comments</span> <ul id="toc-World-Fashion-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Better_Access_Scheme" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Better_Access_Scheme"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">103</span> <span>Better Access Scheme</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">3 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Better_Access_Scheme-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Women_In_STEM_fields" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Women_In_STEM_fields"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">104</span> <span>Women In STEM fields</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">5 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Women_In_STEM_fields-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-List_of_Sudbury_Schools" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#List_of_Sudbury_Schools"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">105</span> <span>List of Sudbury Schools</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">4 comments</span> <ul id="toc-List_of_Sudbury_Schools-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Gerdau_Graphene" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Gerdau_Graphene"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">106</span> <span>Gerdau Graphene</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">2 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Gerdau_Graphene-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Notes_on_the_Ease_of_Using_Cavalier_Axonometric_Projections" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Notes_on_the_Ease_of_Using_Cavalier_Axonometric_Projections"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">107</span> <span>Notes on the Ease of Using Cavalier Axonometric Projections</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">4 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Notes_on_the_Ease_of_Using_Cavalier_Axonometric_Projections-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Baby_Einstein" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Baby_Einstein"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">108</span> <span>Baby Einstein</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">3 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Baby_Einstein-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Apology_note" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Apology_note"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">109</span> <span>Apology note</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">2 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Apology_note-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-U_have_no_knowledge_about_Sikhism." class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#U_have_no_knowledge_about_Sikhism."> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">110</span> <span>U have no knowledge about Sikhism.</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">2 comments</span> <ul id="toc-U_have_no_knowledge_about_Sikhism.-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Vandalism_and_Unconstructive_Edits" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Vandalism_and_Unconstructive_Edits"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">111</span> <span>Vandalism and Unconstructive Edits</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">4 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Vandalism_and_Unconstructive_Edits-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-User_talk:IshmaelAlZahid" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#User_talk:IshmaelAlZahid"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">112</span> <span>User talk:IshmaelAlZahid</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">2 comments</span> <ul id="toc-User_talk:IshmaelAlZahid-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Edgar_Mobbs" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Edgar_Mobbs"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">113</span> <span>Edgar Mobbs</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">4 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Edgar_Mobbs-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Review_Bombing_Assistance" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Review_Bombing_Assistance"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">114</span> <span>Review Bombing Assistance</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">4 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Review_Bombing_Assistance-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-tree_shaping" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#tree_shaping"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">115</span> <span>tree shaping</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">6 comments</span> <ul id="toc-tree_shaping-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-OCR" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#OCR"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">116</span> <span>OCR</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">2 comments</span> <ul id="toc-OCR-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-ANI_2" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#ANI_2"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">117</span> <span>ANI</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-ANI_2-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Spam_link?" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Spam_link?"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">118</span> <span>Spam link?</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">3 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Spam_link?-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Removal_of_additions_to_a_page" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Removal_of_additions_to_a_page"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">119</span> <span>Removal of additions to a page</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">2 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Removal_of_additions_to_a_page-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Reverts_of_terminology_on_Imageboard_page" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Reverts_of_terminology_on_Imageboard_page"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">120</span> <span>Reverts of terminology on Imageboard page</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">2 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Reverts_of_terminology_on_Imageboard_page-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-2014_Court_Order_copies_sent_to_Wikipedia_Legal_and_Arbcom" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#2014_Court_Order_copies_sent_to_Wikipedia_Legal_and_Arbcom"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">121</span> <span>2014 Court Order copies sent to Wikipedia Legal and Arbcom</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">2 comments</span> <ul id="toc-2014_Court_Order_copies_sent_to_Wikipedia_Legal_and_Arbcom-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Salvatore_Pais" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Salvatore_Pais"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">122</span> <span>Salvatore Pais</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">2 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Salvatore_Pais-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Help_fixing_a_hat_note." class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Help_fixing_a_hat_note."> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">123</span> <span>Help fixing a hat note.</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">2 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Help_fixing_a_hat_note.-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Your_reversion_of_my_well-sourced_contributions_to_EMDR_article" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Your_reversion_of_my_well-sourced_contributions_to_EMDR_article"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">124</span> <span>Your reversion of my well-sourced contributions to EMDR article</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">2 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Your_reversion_of_my_well-sourced_contributions_to_EMDR_article-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Your_reversion_of_my_well-sourced_contributions_to_streaming_platform_article(s)" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Your_reversion_of_my_well-sourced_contributions_to_streaming_platform_article(s)"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">125</span> <span>Your reversion of my well-sourced contributions to streaming platform article(s)</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">2 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Your_reversion_of_my_well-sourced_contributions_to_streaming_platform_article(s)-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-I_am_not_cite_spamming" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#I_am_not_cite_spamming"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">126</span> <span>I am not cite spamming</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">2 comments</span> <ul id="toc-I_am_not_cite_spamming-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-I'd_like_to_learn_why_taking_a_reference_from_a_blog_is_wrong" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#I'd_like_to_learn_why_taking_a_reference_from_a_blog_is_wrong"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">127</span> <span>I'd like to learn why taking a reference from a blog is wrong</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">2 comments</span> <ul id="toc-I'd_like_to_learn_why_taking_a_reference_from_a_blog_is_wrong-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-I'd_like_to_learn_why_linking_to_a_highly_relevant_page_is_wrong" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#I'd_like_to_learn_why_linking_to_a_highly_relevant_page_is_wrong"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">128</span> <span>I'd like to learn why linking to a highly relevant page is wrong</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">2 comments</span> <ul id="toc-I'd_like_to_learn_why_linking_to_a_highly_relevant_page_is_wrong-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-WP:3RR" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#WP:3RR"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">129</span> <span>WP:3RR</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">3 comments</span> <ul id="toc-WP:3RR-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-George_Mallory" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#George_Mallory"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">130</span> <span>George Mallory</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">7 comments</span> <ul id="toc-George_Mallory-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-King_Abdullah_II" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#King_Abdullah_II"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">131</span> <span>King Abdullah II</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">2 comments</span> <ul id="toc-King_Abdullah_II-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Lucid_Dream" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Lucid_Dream"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">132</span> <span>Lucid Dream</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Lucid_Dream-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Spider-Man_DOES_have_Superhuman_speed" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Spider-Man_DOES_have_Superhuman_speed"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">133</span> <span>Spider-Man DOES have Superhuman speed</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">3 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Spider-Man_DOES_have_Superhuman_speed-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Please_read_the_talk_page_before_reverting" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Please_read_the_talk_page_before_reverting"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">134</span> <span>Please read the talk page before reverting</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">2 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Please_read_the_talk_page_before_reverting-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Is_Physics_Essays_an_unreliable_source?" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Is_Physics_Essays_an_unreliable_source?"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">135</span> <span>Is Physics Essays an unreliable source?</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">2 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Is_Physics_Essays_an_unreliable_source?-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-We_don't_care_who_his_lawyer_is" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#We_don't_care_who_his_lawyer_is"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">136</span> <span>We don't care who his lawyer is</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">3 comments</span> <ul id="toc-We_don't_care_who_his_lawyer_is-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Unconstructive_editing?" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Unconstructive_editing?"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">137</span> <span>Unconstructive editing?</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">3 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Unconstructive_editing?-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Mistaken_warning?" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Mistaken_warning?"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">138</span> <span>Mistaken warning?</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">2 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Mistaken_warning?-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-WP:SPA?" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#WP:SPA?"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">139</span> <span>WP:SPA?</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">3 comments</span> <ul id="toc-WP:SPA?-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Can_you_check_please" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Can_you_check_please"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">140</span> <span>Can you check please</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Can_you_check_please-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Check_the_link" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Check_the_link"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">141</span> <span>Check the link</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">2 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Check_the_link-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Lightsense_Picosecond_laser_removal" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Lightsense_Picosecond_laser_removal"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">142</span> <span>Lightsense Picosecond laser removal</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">2 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Lightsense_Picosecond_laser_removal-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-False_Accusation_of_Vandalism." class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#False_Accusation_of_Vandalism."> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">143</span> <span>False Accusation of Vandalism.</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">3 comments</span> <ul id="toc-False_Accusation_of_Vandalism.-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Why_did_you_remove_the_most_important_intellectual_step_of_Dr._Laing?" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Why_did_you_remove_the_most_important_intellectual_step_of_Dr._Laing?"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">144</span> <span>Why did you remove the most important intellectual step of Dr. Laing?</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">3 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Why_did_you_remove_the_most_important_intellectual_step_of_Dr._Laing?-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Addressing_Misinterpretations_and_Deletion_of_Valuable_Contributions" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Addressing_Misinterpretations_and_Deletion_of_Valuable_Contributions"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">145</span> <span>Addressing Misinterpretations and Deletion of Valuable Contributions</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">3 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Addressing_Misinterpretations_and_Deletion_of_Valuable_Contributions-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-What_is_COI_you_have_commented?" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#What_is_COI_you_have_commented?"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">146</span> <span>What is COI you have commented?</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">4 comments</span> <ul id="toc-What_is_COI_you_have_commented?-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Regarding_Dave_Vanian_in_influences" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Regarding_Dave_Vanian_in_influences"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">147</span> <span>Regarding Dave Vanian in influences</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">3 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Regarding_Dave_Vanian_in_influences-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Why_you_are_removing_table_"Regulatory_Aproned_Drug_or_Therapy" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Why_you_are_removing_table_"Regulatory_Aproned_Drug_or_Therapy"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">148</span> <span>Why you are removing table "Regulatory Aproned Drug or Therapy</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">2 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Why_you_are_removing_table_"Regulatory_Aproned_Drug_or_Therapy-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Advice_please" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Advice_please"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">149</span> <span>Advice please</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Advice_please-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Question_re:_edit_summary" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Question_re:_edit_summary"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">150</span> <span>Question re: edit summary</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">3 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Question_re:_edit_summary-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Explaining_changes_to_the_news_aggregator_article" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Explaining_changes_to_the_news_aggregator_article"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">151</span> <span>Explaining changes to the news aggregator article</span> </div> </a> <span 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class="vector-toc-numb">158</span> <span>Divisibility rule</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">2 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Divisibility_rule-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Notice_of_edit_warring_noticeboard_discussion" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Notice_of_edit_warring_noticeboard_discussion"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">159</span> <span>Notice of edit warring noticeboard discussion</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">2 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Notice_of_edit_warring_noticeboard_discussion-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Why?" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Why?"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">160</span> <span>Why?</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 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href="/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_15" title="User talk:MrOllie/Archive 15">Archive 15</a></td><td><a href="/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_16" title="User talk:MrOllie/Archive 16">Archive 16</a></td><td><span style="font-size:115%;"><a class="mw-selflink selflink">Archive 17</a></span></td><td><a href="/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_18" title="User talk:MrOllie/Archive 18">Archive 18</a></td><td><a href="/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_19" title="User talk:MrOllie/Archive 19">Archive 19</a></td><td><a href="/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_20" title="User talk:MrOllie/Archive 20">Archive 20</a></td></tr></tbody></table> <meta property="mw:PageProp/toc"/> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Design-Build" data-mw-thread-id="h-Design-Build-20230116045700"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Design-Build-20230116045700"></span>Design-Build<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Design-Build-20230116045700"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Jon_Tomas_Vaughn-20230116045700-Design-Build"></span>Hello MrOllie, </p><p>I'm a hands on, in the field, boots on the ground construction guy. Who better to add an update to the Design-Build Wikipage, than a guy like me. I feel that my addition, benefits the definition by furthering the point of a seasoned contractor adding value to a project owner by bringing field knowledge to the table. Field knowledge that just can't be replicated by office professionals/engineers/architects that have never installed a roof (in this instance). I realize that I am affiliated with the roofing company I've used as a reference, but it shouldn't delegitimize my input, because there isn't anyone else in the world who would have bothered to make that worthwhile contribution/edit. It's a justifiable edit in my opinion, even though I'm affiliated with the roofing company. It's not an egregious overstep. It's a worthy edit and shouldn't be penalized. Dupont, National Coatings, Henrys and RIM Architects will be linking to my referenced blog from their websites with do follow links, so I'm not concerned with a nofollow from Wikipedia. I just wanted to tell my mom that I got on Wikipedia. Haha. </p><p>Thank you for your consideration. </p><p><a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Jon_Tomas_Vaughn&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Jon Tomas Vaughn (page does not exist)">Jon Tomas Vaughn</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Jon_Tomas_Vaughn" title="User talk:Jon Tomas Vaughn">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-Jon_Tomas_Vaughn-20230116045700-Design-Build" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">04:57, 16 January 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Jon_Tomas_Vaughn-20230116045700-Design-Build"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Jon_Tomas_Vaughn-20230116045700-Design-Build"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-MrOllie-20230116050200-Jon_Tomas_Vaughn-20230116045700"></span>Everything on Wikipedia needs a citation to a reliable source (see <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:V" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:V">WP:V</a>, <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:RS" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:RS">WP:RS</a>). Your blog does not meet those sourcing requirements. - <a href="/wiki/User:MrOllie" class="mw-redirect" title="User:MrOllie">MrOllie</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie#top" title="User talk:MrOllie">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-MrOllie-20230116050200-Jon_Tomas_Vaughn-20230116045700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">05:02, 16 January 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-MrOllie-20230116050200-Jon_Tomas_Vaughn-20230116045700"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-MrOllie-20230116050200-Jon_Tomas_Vaughn-20230116045700"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Assisted_Living" data-mw-thread-id="h-Assisted_Living-20230117003400"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Assisted_Living-20230117003400"></span>Assisted Living<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Assisted_Living-20230117003400"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-ProfessorMarshall-20230117003400-Assisted_Living"></span>Hello! I can remove the citations that link to my work on the section I added today. I was practicing adding a section so that I could show my students how it is done for them to do for a homework assignment. I don't really care if my work is cited. All the other citations are not me or my colleagues though. So can I restore what was added but remove the "Marshall" citations to fix any COI? <a href="/wiki/User:ProfessorMarshall" title="User:ProfessorMarshall">ProfessorMarshall</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:ProfessorMarshall" title="User talk:ProfessorMarshall">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-ProfessorMarshall-20230117003400-Assisted_Living" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:34, 17 January 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-ProfessorMarshall-20230117003400-Assisted_Living"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-ProfessorMarshall-20230117003400-Assisted_Living"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-MrOllie-20230117003600-ProfessorMarshall-20230117003400"></span>You should have a look at <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Education_program" title="Wikipedia:Education program">Wikipedia:Education program</a>. Coursework that involves Wikipedia is generally supposed to go through a particular process. Turning a bunch of students loose on Wikipedia outside that process rarely works out well - either for the students or for Wikipedia. <a href="/wiki/User:MrOllie" class="mw-redirect" title="User:MrOllie">MrOllie</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie#top" title="User talk:MrOllie">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-MrOllie-20230117003600-ProfessorMarshall-20230117003400" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:36, 17 January 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-MrOllie-20230117003600-ProfessorMarshall-20230117003400"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-MrOllie-20230117003600-ProfessorMarshall-20230117003400"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-ProfessorMarshall-20230117004700-MrOllie-20230117003600"></span>I'm participating in a project listed below, just in case you weren't aware this was being marketed to Higher Ed to have students participate in the experience. Good educators utilize drafts and edits in the classroom before allowing anything to be published online, and students get a sense of value by providing something tangible rather than a paper that just sits on the teacher's desk. I notice that many of the wikipages regarding aging/Gerontology list that they need more citations and sources and I wanted my students to be able to transfer their knowledge in a meaningful way. But I want a good experience for my students, so instead I will have them create written educational materials to share within our local community.</dd> <dd>This is the program I wanted to do. It is not just "turning students loose"...</dd> <dd>"My name is Andrés Vera, and I am the Equity Outreach Coordinator for the Wiki Education Foundation, a small ten-person nonprofit that helps university/college instructors and students contribute to Wikipedia. Wiki Education's support is fully funded, and there are no fees to run a Wikipedia assignment." <a href="/wiki/User:ProfessorMarshall" title="User:ProfessorMarshall">ProfessorMarshall</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:ProfessorMarshall" title="User talk:ProfessorMarshall">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-ProfessorMarshall-20230117004700-MrOllie-20230117003600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:47, 17 January 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-ProfessorMarshall-20230117004700-MrOllie-20230117003600"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-ProfessorMarshall-20230117004700-MrOllie-20230117003600"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-MrOllie-20230117005100-ProfessorMarshall-20230117004700"></span>Editing on biomedical topics such as Gerontology has special requirements (<a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:MEDRS" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:MEDRS">WP:MEDRS</a>) and generally makes for a poor experience for student editors. I'm quite surprised that whomever you are working with at Wiki Education didn't make you aware of that (and also that they apparently didn't make you aware of the <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:COI" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:COI">conflict of interest</a> guidelines). <a href="/wiki/User:MrOllie" class="mw-redirect" title="User:MrOllie">MrOllie</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie#top" title="User talk:MrOllie">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-MrOllie-20230117005100-ProfessorMarshall-20230117004700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:51, 17 January 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-MrOllie-20230117005100-ProfessorMarshall-20230117004700"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-MrOllie-20230117005100-ProfessorMarshall-20230117004700"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-ProfessorMarshall-20230117005700-MrOllie-20230117005100"></span>The Zoom call is this week, so I'm sure I would have learned more. But I no longer plan to participate. While I value the importance of the information you are providing (and agree with COI, etc), the way in which feedback is given can most certainly be more positively worded. I would not want to put my students in a position to receive harsh feedback. We will have a more enjoyable positive experience providing knowledge to the community rather than on Wiki.</dd> <dd>My work is in social wellbeing in older adults, not everything about older adults is medical...so not sure it would be considered "biomedical". But for what it's worth, I have a PhD.</dd> <dd>No need to reply, I've just learned this is not the space for me. <a href="/wiki/User:ProfessorMarshall" title="User:ProfessorMarshall">ProfessorMarshall</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:ProfessorMarshall" title="User talk:ProfessorMarshall">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-ProfessorMarshall-20230117005700-MrOllie-20230117005100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:57, 17 January 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-ProfessorMarshall-20230117005700-MrOllie-20230117005100"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-ProfessorMarshall-20230117005700-MrOllie-20230117005100"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Edit_on_CFA_Page" data-mw-thread-id="h-Edit_on_CFA_Page-20230118012100"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Edit_on_CFA_Page-20230118012100"></span>Edit on CFA Page<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Edit_on_CFA_Page-20230118012100"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-76.181.241.214-20230118012100-Edit_on_CFA_Page"></span>I have attempted to remove a biased and opinionated piece of this article, which is somehow considered vandalism. The individual who brought up this ¨vassal state¨ claim is caught up in the Ukraine trend and is therefore plastering this junk on the article. I simply attempted to restore the article to its previous form. <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/76.181.241.214" title="Special:Contributions/76.181.241.214">76.181.241.214</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:76.181.241.214" title="User talk:76.181.241.214">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-76.181.241.214-20230118012100-Edit_on_CFA_Page" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">01:21, 18 January 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-76.181.241.214-20230118012100-Edit_on_CFA_Page"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-76.181.241.214-20230118012100-Edit_on_CFA_Page"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-MrOllie-20230118013300-76.181.241.214-20230118012100"></span>Edit warring, personal attacks, and content deletion based on your politics are all disruptive. If you do not stop I am sure you will be blocked. <a href="/wiki/User:MrOllie" class="mw-redirect" title="User:MrOllie">MrOllie</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie#top" title="User talk:MrOllie">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-MrOllie-20230118013300-76.181.241.214-20230118012100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">01:33, 18 January 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-MrOllie-20230118013300-76.181.241.214-20230118012100"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-MrOllie-20230118013300-76.181.241.214-20230118012100"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Ref_spam" data-mw-thread-id="h-Ref_spam-20230118100300"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Ref_spam-20230118100300"></span>Ref spam<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Ref_spam-20230118100300"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Phlsph7-20230118100300-Ref_spam"></span>Hi <a href="/wiki/User:MrOllie" class="mw-redirect" title="User:MrOllie">MrOllie</a>, would you mind taking a look at whether these are cases of <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:REFSPAM" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:REFSPAM">WP:REFSPAM</a>: <a class="external autonumber" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Rationality&diff=prev&oldid=1134367968&diffmode=source">[1]</a>, <a class="external autonumber" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Evidence-based_medicine&diff=prev&oldid=1134367366&diffmode=source">[2]</a>, <a class="external autonumber" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Philosophy_of_medicine&diff=prev&oldid=1132669606&diffmode=source">[3]</a>, and <a class="external autonumber" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Pharmacovigilance&diff=prev&oldid=1132669036&diffmode=source">[4]</a>? They all involve papers by Jacob Stegenga. <a href="/wiki/User:Phlsph7" title="User:Phlsph7">Phlsph7</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Phlsph7" title="User talk:Phlsph7">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-Phlsph7-20230118100300-Ref_spam" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:03, 18 January 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Phlsph7-20230118100300-Ref_spam"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Phlsph7-20230118100300-Ref_spam"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-MrOllie-20230118133300-Phlsph7-20230118100300"></span>Certainly looks like a single purpose / spam account to me! <a href="/wiki/User:MrOllie" class="mw-redirect" title="User:MrOllie">MrOllie</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie#top" title="User talk:MrOllie">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-MrOllie-20230118133300-Phlsph7-20230118100300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:33, 18 January 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-MrOllie-20230118133300-Phlsph7-20230118100300"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-MrOllie-20230118133300-Phlsph7-20230118100300"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Phlsph7-20230119065400-MrOllie-20230118133300"></span>Thanks for the help. I'll see if I find some time later to something about it. <a href="/wiki/User:Phlsph7" title="User:Phlsph7">Phlsph7</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Phlsph7" title="User talk:Phlsph7">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-Phlsph7-20230119065400-MrOllie-20230118133300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">06:54, 19 January 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Phlsph7-20230119065400-MrOllie-20230118133300"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Phlsph7-20230119065400-MrOllie-20230118133300"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Prolog_Edit_-_Third_Party_Logistics" data-mw-thread-id="h-Prolog_Edit_-_Third_Party_Logistics-20230120090200"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Prolog_Edit_-_Third_Party_Logistics-20230120090200"></span>Prolog Edit - Third Party Logistics<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Prolog_Edit_-_Third_Party_Logistics-20230120090200"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Aprice932-20230120090200-Prolog_Edit_-_Third_Party_Logistics"></span>Hi Mr Ollie </p><p>I just want to question your assumption that I had added an inappropriate link to 'Third Party Logistics'. In fact, the link I added was to an article that responded appropriately to an query raised in the paragraph where the citation was added. I'm aware that the links are NoFollow, I simply wished to share industry knowledge and experience on a site that I respect. If you do not think the article is suitable to be included on the page, fair enough, but I would request that it is considered, rather than being refused on an assumption of practices I do not participate in. </p><p>Amanda Price <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Aprice932&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Aprice932 (page does not exist)">Aprice932</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Aprice932" title="User talk:Aprice932">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-Aprice932-20230120090200-Prolog_Edit_-_Third_Party_Logistics" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:02, 20 January 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Aprice932-20230120090200-Prolog_Edit_-_Third_Party_Logistics"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Aprice932-20230120090200-Prolog_Edit_-_Third_Party_Logistics"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-MrOllie-20230120115800-Aprice932-20230120090200"></span>Vendor marketing materials are not usable sources - they are always inappropriate links. <a href="/wiki/User:MrOllie" class="mw-redirect" title="User:MrOllie">MrOllie</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie#top" title="User talk:MrOllie">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-MrOllie-20230120115800-Aprice932-20230120090200" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:58, 20 January 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-MrOllie-20230120115800-Aprice932-20230120090200"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-MrOllie-20230120115800-Aprice932-20230120090200"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Invitation" data-mw-thread-id="h-Invitation-20230121075700"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Invitation-20230121075700"></span>Invitation<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Invitation-20230121075700"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Scholartop-20230121075700-Invitation"></span>Hello Mr Ollie, </p><p>I would like to invite you to attend in <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Similarity-based-TOPSIS" title="Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Similarity-based-TOPSIS">Articles for deletion/Similarity-based-TOPSIS</a> and submit your opinion. Thank you in advance. <a href="/wiki/User:Scholartop" title="User:Scholartop">Scholartop</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Scholartop" title="User talk:Scholartop">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-Scholartop-20230121075700-Invitation" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">07:57, 21 January 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Scholartop-20230121075700-Invitation"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Scholartop-20230121075700-Invitation"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id=""Vendor_list"" data-mw-thread-id="h-"Vendor_list"-20230124163000"><span id=".22Vendor_list.22"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-"Vendor_list"-20230124163000"></span>"Vendor list"<span data-mw-comment-end="h-"Vendor_list"-20230124163000"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Coldbolt-20230124163000-"Vendor_list""></span>Why do you remove a list of notable companies producing hiking boots? Many even have their own article. <a href="/wiki/User:Coldbolt" title="User:Coldbolt">Coldbolt</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Coldbolt" title="User talk:Coldbolt">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-Coldbolt-20230124163000-"Vendor_list"" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:30, 24 January 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Coldbolt-20230124163000-"Vendor_list""></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Coldbolt-20230124163000-"Vendor_list""></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-MrOllie-20230124163300-Coldbolt-20230124163000"></span>Because <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:NOT" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:NOT">Wikipedia isn't a directory.</a> Brand name mentions should be minimized, and such lists always turn into spam magnets. <a href="/wiki/User:MrOllie" class="mw-redirect" title="User:MrOllie">MrOllie</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie#top" title="User talk:MrOllie">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-MrOllie-20230124163300-Coldbolt-20230124163000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:33, 24 January 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-MrOllie-20230124163300-Coldbolt-20230124163000"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-MrOllie-20230124163300-Coldbolt-20230124163000"></span></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Coldbolt-20230124163400-MrOllie-20230124163300"></span>It is a small list with specialized companies which are notable and have their own article. I can name you hundreds of these lists on Wikipedia. Go bother someone else. <a href="/wiki/User:Coldbolt" title="User:Coldbolt">Coldbolt</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Coldbolt" title="User talk:Coldbolt">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-Coldbolt-20230124163400-MrOllie-20230124163300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:34, 24 January 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Coldbolt-20230124163400-MrOllie-20230124163300"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Coldbolt-20230124163400-MrOllie-20230124163300"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-MrOllie-20230124163500-Coldbolt-20230124163400"></span>Per <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:BRD" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:BRD">WP:BRD</a>, take it up on the article talk page and see if anyone else agrees that we should have such a list. My user talk is the wrong place for this. <a href="/wiki/User:MrOllie" class="mw-redirect" title="User:MrOllie">MrOllie</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie#top" title="User talk:MrOllie">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-MrOllie-20230124163500-Coldbolt-20230124163400" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:35, 24 January 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-MrOllie-20230124163500-Coldbolt-20230124163400"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-MrOllie-20230124163500-Coldbolt-20230124163400"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Coldbolt-20230124163900-MrOllie-20230124163500"></span>It's not for me to discuss that with others. It's for you to discuss it with others if you want it removed. There are literally no rules for it as it's not advertising and all companies are notable. It might even be of good use for people. You don't own Wikipedia. <a href="/wiki/User:Coldbolt" title="User:Coldbolt">Coldbolt</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Coldbolt" title="User talk:Coldbolt">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-Coldbolt-20230124163900-MrOllie-20230124163500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:39, 24 January 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Coldbolt-20230124163900-MrOllie-20230124163500"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Coldbolt-20230124163900-MrOllie-20230124163500"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-MrOllie-20230124164000-Coldbolt-20230124163900"></span>Again, see <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:BRD" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:BRD">WP:BRD</a>. You don't own Wikipedia either. Also, you have it backward - The <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:ONUS" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:ONUS">WP:ONUS</a> is on the person who wants to keep disputed content.<a href="/wiki/User:MrOllie" class="mw-redirect" title="User:MrOllie">MrOllie</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie#top" title="User talk:MrOllie">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-MrOllie-20230124164000-Coldbolt-20230124163900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:40, 24 January 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-MrOllie-20230124164000-Coldbolt-20230124163900"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-MrOllie-20230124164000-Coldbolt-20230124163900"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Coldbolt-20230124164500-MrOllie-20230124164000"></span>If I source every single company of which most exist for about 50-100 years, specialized in hiking shoes and they even have their own article. What is your problem??? <a href="/wiki/User:Coldbolt" title="User:Coldbolt">Coldbolt</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Coldbolt" title="User talk:Coldbolt">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-Coldbolt-20230124164500-MrOllie-20230124164000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:45, 24 January 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Coldbolt-20230124164500-MrOllie-20230124164000"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Coldbolt-20230124164500-MrOllie-20230124164000"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-MrOllie-20230124164600-Coldbolt-20230124164500"></span>My problem is that lists of brands do not belong on Wikipedia (just as our article on Plumbing doesn't list local plumbers), and you are edit warring and being insulting on my user talk page rather than gathering consensus for your proposed change on the article talk page. <a href="/wiki/User:MrOllie" class="mw-redirect" title="User:MrOllie">MrOllie</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie#top" title="User talk:MrOllie">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-MrOllie-20230124164600-Coldbolt-20230124164500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:46, 24 January 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-MrOllie-20230124164600-Coldbolt-20230124164500"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-MrOllie-20230124164600-Coldbolt-20230124164500"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Will_series" data-mw-thread-id="h-Will_series-20230124234200"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Will_series-20230124234200"></span>Will series<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Will_series-20230124234200"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Veganpurplefox-20230124234200-Will_series"></span>Can I asked why its considered as promotion if the actor is confirmed in both rotten tomatoes and TV guide for his role and gets removed every time? Proof on these reliable sources. There are other actors that are already in the cast that are also considered as non notable so why cant he be added?<a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="https://www.rottentomatoes.com/celebrity/edward_hayter">https://www.rottentomatoes.com/celebrity/edward_hayter</a> <a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="https://www.tvguide.com/celebrities/edward-hayter/3000627243/">https://www.tvguide.com/celebrities/edward-hayter/3000627243/</a> <a href="/wiki/User:Veganpurplefox" title="User:Veganpurplefox">Veganpurplefox</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Veganpurplefox" title="User talk:Veganpurplefox">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-Veganpurplefox-20230124234200-Will_series" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:42, 24 January 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Veganpurplefox-20230124234200-Will_series"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Veganpurplefox-20230124234200-Will_series"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-MrOllie-20230124234700-Veganpurplefox-20230124234200"></span>Indiscriminate sources such as Rotten Tomatoes or TV Guide do not establish notability. Wikipedia is not meant to list everyone who is in a TV show or a movie, that is that IMDB is for. If you cannot get the draft approved, you should stop writing about the person on Wikipedia. <a href="/wiki/User:MrOllie" class="mw-redirect" title="User:MrOllie">MrOllie</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie#top" title="User talk:MrOllie">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-MrOllie-20230124234700-Veganpurplefox-20230124234200" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:47, 24 January 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-MrOllie-20230124234700-Veganpurplefox-20230124234200"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-MrOllie-20230124234700-Veganpurplefox-20230124234200"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Correction_-_Steven_Crowder" data-mw-thread-id="h-Correction_-_Steven_Crowder-20230125144700"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Correction_-_Steven_Crowder-20230125144700"></span>Correction - Steven Crowder<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Correction_-_Steven_Crowder-20230125144700"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-LiwenAristodemos-20230125144700-Correction_-_Steven_Crowder"></span>You stated, incorrectly, in the edit summary section that I removed information. The edit history correctly points out that the person who made this edit: <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Steven_Crowder&diff=1135506537&oldid=1135458584">Edit By 108.7.16.199</a>. It is clear that this anonymous user is somewhere in Peabody, Massachusetts. You made the incorrect assumption that it was me. Please do not do that. It is wrong and bad form. I live in the South, not in the Northeast. Otherwise, have a great day! <a href="/wiki/User:LiwenAristodemos" title="User:LiwenAristodemos">LiwenAristodemos</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:LiwenAristodemos" title="User talk:LiwenAristodemos">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-LiwenAristodemos-20230125144700-Correction_-_Steven_Crowder" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:47, 25 January 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-LiwenAristodemos-20230125144700-Correction_-_Steven_Crowder"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-LiwenAristodemos-20230125144700-Correction_-_Steven_Crowder"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-MrOllie-20230125144900-LiwenAristodemos-20230125144700"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:LiwenAristodemos" title="User:LiwenAristodemos">LiwenAristodemos</a>:</span> No, I didn't. You should read the edit summary again. <a href="/wiki/User:MrOllie" class="mw-redirect" title="User:MrOllie">MrOllie</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie#top" title="User talk:MrOllie">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-MrOllie-20230125144900-LiwenAristodemos-20230125144700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:49, 25 January 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-MrOllie-20230125144900-LiwenAristodemos-20230125144700"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-MrOllie-20230125144900-LiwenAristodemos-20230125144700"></span> <dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-LiwenAristodemos-20230125145800-MrOllie-20230125144900"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:MrOllie" class="mw-redirect" title="User:MrOllie">MrOllie</a>:</span> The edit summary says, "(Restored revision 1135458584 by LiwenAristodemos (talk)) Tags: Twinkle Undo". If you didn't write this edit summary then who did?<a href="/wiki/User:LiwenAristodemos" title="User:LiwenAristodemos">LiwenAristodemos</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:LiwenAristodemos" title="User talk:LiwenAristodemos">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-LiwenAristodemos-20230125145800-MrOllie-20230125144900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:58, 25 January 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-LiwenAristodemos-20230125145800-MrOllie-20230125144900"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-LiwenAristodemos-20230125145800-MrOllie-20230125144900"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-MrOllie-20230125150000-LiwenAristodemos-20230125145800"></span>I wrote it (well, <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:TWINKLE" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:TWINKLE">twinkle</a> wrote it, but same difference), but it does not say what you seem to think it says. <a href="/wiki/User:MrOllie" class="mw-redirect" title="User:MrOllie">MrOllie</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie#top" title="User talk:MrOllie">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-MrOllie-20230125150000-LiwenAristodemos-20230125145800" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:00, 25 January 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-MrOllie-20230125150000-LiwenAristodemos-20230125145800"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-MrOllie-20230125150000-LiwenAristodemos-20230125145800"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-LiwenAristodemos-20230125162400-MrOllie-20230125150000"></span>No. It says exactly what I think it says. It says that LiwenAristodemos removed the material and then you brought it back to the page. This is false. The material you brought back to the page was removed by 108.7.16.199, an anon IP editor somewhere in Massachusetts. That's what it should have said. Right now it is incorrect. Please do not place incorrect information in the edit summaries. Thank you. <a href="/wiki/User:LiwenAristodemos" title="User:LiwenAristodemos">LiwenAristodemos</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:LiwenAristodemos" title="User talk:LiwenAristodemos">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-LiwenAristodemos-20230125162400-MrOllie-20230125150000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:24, 25 January 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-LiwenAristodemos-20230125162400-MrOllie-20230125150000"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-LiwenAristodemos-20230125162400-MrOllie-20230125150000"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-MrOllie-20230125162900-LiwenAristodemos-20230125162400"></span>No, I'm afraid you're just wrong. <b>Restored revision</b>. <a href="/wiki/User:MrOllie" class="mw-redirect" title="User:MrOllie">MrOllie</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie#top" title="User talk:MrOllie">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-MrOllie-20230125162900-LiwenAristodemos-20230125162400" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:29, 25 January 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-MrOllie-20230125162900-LiwenAristodemos-20230125162400"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-MrOllie-20230125162900-LiwenAristodemos-20230125162400"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Doug_Weller-20230125164000-MrOllie-20230125162900"></span>That’s very clear. @<a href="/wiki/User:LiwenAristodemos" title="User:LiwenAristodemos">LiwenAristodemos</a> you’ve misunderstood the edit summary created by Twinkle. <a href="/wiki/User:Doug_Weller" title="User:Doug Weller"><span style="color:#070">Doug Weller</span></a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Doug_Weller" title="User talk:Doug Weller">talk</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-Doug_Weller-20230125164000-MrOllie-20230125162900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:40, 25 January 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Doug_Weller-20230125164000-MrOllie-20230125162900"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Doug_Weller-20230125164000-MrOllie-20230125162900"></span> <dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-LiwenAristodemos-20230125165100-Doug_Weller-20230125164000"></span>Not true. Just repeating something over and over again, even though is incorrect, does not make it correct. MrOllie removed these words, an edit that I agree with: "YouTube suspended the channel again for two weeks in October 2022 for violating its harassment, threats and cyberbullying policy.<sup id="cite_ref-:5_1-0" class="reference"><a href="#cite_note-:5-1"><span class="cite-bracket">[</span>1<span class="cite-bracket">]</span></a></sup> The channel had 5.94 million subscribers as of 2023.<sup id="cite_ref-:42_2-0" class="reference"><a href="#cite_note-:42-2"><span class="cite-bracket">[</span>2<span class="cite-bracket">]</span></a></sup>" These words were removed incorrectly by the anon IP editor in MA. These words were not removed by me. So, MrOllie could not have restored the words that I removed because the words MrOllie restored, correctly, were the words removed by the anon IP editor. You are both wrong. <a href="/wiki/User:LiwenAristodemos" title="User:LiwenAristodemos">LiwenAristodemos</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:LiwenAristodemos" title="User talk:LiwenAristodemos">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-LiwenAristodemos-20230125165100-Doug_Weller-20230125164000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:51, 25 January 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-LiwenAristodemos-20230125165100-Doug_Weller-20230125164000"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-LiwenAristodemos-20230125165100-Doug_Weller-20230125164000"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Doug_Weller-20230125165800-LiwenAristodemos-20230125165100"></span>Again, no. MrOllie restored your version. Neither of us think you removed the material. Go to the <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Teahouse" title="Wikipedia:Teahouse">Wikipedia:Teahouse</a> or the <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Help_desk" title="Wikipedia:Help desk">Wikipedia:Help desk</a> if you don’t believe us but please stop posting here to insist that you are right. <a href="/wiki/User:Doug_Weller" title="User:Doug Weller"><span style="color:#070">Doug Weller</span></a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Doug_Weller" title="User talk:Doug Weller">talk</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-Doug_Weller-20230125165800-LiwenAristodemos-20230125165100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:58, 25 January 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Doug_Weller-20230125165800-LiwenAristodemos-20230125165100"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Doug_Weller-20230125165800-LiwenAristodemos-20230125165100"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <style data-mw-deduplicate="TemplateStyles:r1232521257">.mw-parser-output .reflist-talk{margin:auto 0;border:1px dashed var(--border-color-base,#a2a9b1);padding:4px;padding-left:1em}.mw-parser-output .reflist-talk-title{font-weight:bold}</style><div class="reflist-talk"> <p class="reflist-talk-title">References</p> <style data-mw-deduplicate="TemplateStyles:r1239543626">.mw-parser-output .reflist{margin-bottom:0.5em;list-style-type:decimal}@media screen{.mw-parser-output .reflist{font-size:90%}}.mw-parser-output .reflist .references{font-size:100%;margin-bottom:0;list-style-type:inherit}.mw-parser-output .reflist-columns-2{column-width:30em}.mw-parser-output .reflist-columns-3{column-width:25em}.mw-parser-output .reflist-columns{margin-top:0.3em}.mw-parser-output .reflist-columns ol{margin-top:0}.mw-parser-output .reflist-columns li{page-break-inside:avoid;break-inside:avoid-column}.mw-parser-output .reflist-upper-alpha{list-style-type:upper-alpha}.mw-parser-output .reflist-upper-roman{list-style-type:upper-roman}.mw-parser-output .reflist-lower-alpha{list-style-type:lower-alpha}.mw-parser-output .reflist-lower-greek{list-style-type:lower-greek}.mw-parser-output .reflist-lower-roman{list-style-type:lower-roman}</style><div class="reflist"> <div class="mw-references-wrap"><ol class="references"> <li id="cite_note-:5-1"><span class="mw-cite-backlink"><b><a href="#cite_ref-:5_1-0">^</a></b></span> <span class="reference-text"><style data-mw-deduplicate="TemplateStyles:r1238218222">.mw-parser-output cite.citation{font-style:inherit;word-wrap:break-word}.mw-parser-output .citation q{quotes:"\"""\"""'""'"}.mw-parser-output .citation:target{background-color:rgba(0,127,255,0.133)}.mw-parser-output .id-lock-free.id-lock-free a{background:url("//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/65/Lock-green.svg")right 0.1em center/9px no-repeat}.mw-parser-output .id-lock-limited.id-lock-limited a,.mw-parser-output .id-lock-registration.id-lock-registration a{background:url("//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/d6/Lock-gray-alt-2.svg")right 0.1em center/9px no-repeat}.mw-parser-output .id-lock-subscription.id-lock-subscription a{background:url("//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/aa/Lock-red-alt-2.svg")right 0.1em center/9px no-repeat}.mw-parser-output .cs1-ws-icon a{background:url("//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/4c/Wikisource-logo.svg")right 0.1em center/12px no-repeat}body:not(.skin-timeless):not(.skin-minerva) .mw-parser-output .id-lock-free a,body:not(.skin-timeless):not(.skin-minerva) .mw-parser-output .id-lock-limited a,body:not(.skin-timeless):not(.skin-minerva) .mw-parser-output .id-lock-registration a,body:not(.skin-timeless):not(.skin-minerva) .mw-parser-output .id-lock-subscription a,body:not(.skin-timeless):not(.skin-minerva) .mw-parser-output .cs1-ws-icon a{background-size:contain;padding:0 1em 0 0}.mw-parser-output .cs1-code{color:inherit;background:inherit;border:none;padding:inherit}.mw-parser-output .cs1-hidden-error{display:none;color:var(--color-error,#d33)}.mw-parser-output .cs1-visible-error{color:var(--color-error,#d33)}.mw-parser-output .cs1-maint{display:none;color:#085;margin-left:0.3em}.mw-parser-output .cs1-kern-left{padding-left:0.2em}.mw-parser-output .cs1-kern-right{padding-right:0.2em}.mw-parser-output .citation .mw-selflink{font-weight:inherit}@media screen{.mw-parser-output .cs1-format{font-size:95%}html.skin-theme-clientpref-night .mw-parser-output .cs1-maint{color:#18911f}}@media screen and (prefers-color-scheme:dark){html.skin-theme-clientpref-os .mw-parser-output .cs1-maint{color:#18911f}}</style><cite id="CITEREFSieversNovember_12022" class="citation web cs1">Sievers, Caitlin; November 1, Arizona Mirror; 2022. <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.azmirror.com/blog/kari-lake-wants-an-az-law-banning-big-tech-censorship-of-conservatives/">"Kari Lake wants an AZ law banning Big Tech 'censorship' of conservatives • Arizona Mirror"</a>. <i>Arizona Mirror</i><span class="reference-accessdate">. Retrieved <span class="nowrap">2022-11-07</span></span>.</cite><span title="ctx_ver=Z39.88-2004&rft_val_fmt=info%3Aofi%2Ffmt%3Akev%3Amtx%3Ajournal&rft.genre=unknown&rft.jtitle=Arizona+Mirror&rft.atitle=Kari+Lake+wants+an+AZ+law+banning+Big+Tech+%27censorship%27+of+conservatives+%E2%80%A2+Arizona+Mirror&rft.aulast=Sievers&rft.aufirst=Caitlin&rft.au=November+1%2C+Arizona+Mirror&rft.au=2022&rft_id=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.azmirror.com%2Fblog%2Fkari-lake-wants-an-az-law-banning-big-tech-censorship-of-conservatives%2F&rfr_id=info%3Asid%2Fen.wikipedia.org%3AUser+talk%3AMrOllie%2FArchive+17" class="Z3988"></span> <span class="cs1-visible-error citation-comment"><code class="cs1-code">{{<a href="/wiki/Template:Cite_web" title="Template:Cite web">cite web</a>}}</code>: </span><span class="cs1-visible-error citation-comment"><code class="cs1-code">|last3=</code> has numeric name (<a href="/wiki/Help:CS1_errors#numeric_names" title="Help:CS1 errors">help</a>)</span><span class="cs1-maint citation-comment">CS1 maint: numeric names: authors list (<a href="/wiki/Category:CS1_maint:_numeric_names:_authors_list" title="Category:CS1 maint: numeric names: authors list">link</a>)</span></span> </li> <li id="cite_note-:42-2"><span class="mw-cite-backlink"><b><a href="#cite_ref-:42_2-0">^</a></b></span> <span class="reference-text"><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1238218222"><cite class="citation web cs1"><a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.youtube.com/c/StevenCrowder">"StevenCrowder – YouTube"</a>. <i>www.youtube.com</i><span class="reference-accessdate">. Retrieved <span class="nowrap">2023-01-20</span></span>.</cite><span title="ctx_ver=Z39.88-2004&rft_val_fmt=info%3Aofi%2Ffmt%3Akev%3Amtx%3Ajournal&rft.genre=unknown&rft.jtitle=www.youtube.com&rft.atitle=StevenCrowder+%E2%80%93+YouTube&rft_id=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fc%2FStevenCrowder&rfr_id=info%3Asid%2Fen.wikipedia.org%3AUser+talk%3AMrOllie%2FArchive+17" class="Z3988"></span></span> </li> </ol></div></div> </div> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Correction_-_Bryant_&_Stratton_College" data-mw-thread-id="h-Correction_-_Bryant_&_Stratton_College-20230125175600"><span id="Correction_-_Bryant_.26_Stratton_College"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Correction_-_Bryant_&_Stratton_College-20230125175600"></span>Correction - Bryant & Stratton College<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Correction_-_Bryant_&_Stratton_College-20230125175600"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-BSCIRA-20230125175600-Correction_-_Bryant_&_Stratton_College"></span>Much of the page is out of date. Status of the college, colors, president, board of directors. The Student Outcomes section reflects one of 17 campuses, and not the main campus. The facts need to be updated. <a href="/wiki/User:BSCIRA" class="mw-redirect" title="User:BSCIRA">BSCIRA</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:BSCIRA" class="mw-redirect" title="User talk:BSCIRA">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-BSCIRA-20230125175600-Correction_-_Bryant_&_Stratton_College" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:56, 25 January 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-BSCIRA-20230125175600-Correction_-_Bryant_&_Stratton_College"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-BSCIRA-20230125175600-Correction_-_Bryant_&_Stratton_College"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-MrOllie-20230125175800-BSCIRA-20230125175600"></span>Perhaps, but the way for you to do that is by suggesting changes on the article's talk page, not by flagrantly disregarding Wikipedia's policies. <a href="/wiki/User:MrOllie" class="mw-redirect" title="User:MrOllie">MrOllie</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie#top" title="User talk:MrOllie">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-MrOllie-20230125175800-BSCIRA-20230125175600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:58, 25 January 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-MrOllie-20230125175800-BSCIRA-20230125175600"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-MrOllie-20230125175800-BSCIRA-20230125175600"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-184.80.225.218-20230125201100-MrOllie-20230125175800"></span>That is what I am trying to do with this update, Ollie. This is the talk page, right? Or maybe I'm hallucinating. <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/184.80.225.218" title="Special:Contributions/184.80.225.218">184.80.225.218</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:184.80.225.218" title="User talk:184.80.225.218">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-184.80.225.218-20230125201100-MrOllie-20230125175800" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:11, 25 January 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-184.80.225.218-20230125201100-MrOllie-20230125175800"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-184.80.225.218-20230125201100-MrOllie-20230125175800"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-UtherSRG-20230125202800-184.80.225.218-20230125201100"></span>No. You do it on the article's talk page. And if you ar <a href="/wiki/User:BSCIRA" class="mw-redirect" title="User:BSCIRA">BSCIRA</a>, please wait until your new username is approved. Do not circumvent your block by editing while not logged in, or you risk being permanently blocked. - <a href="/wiki/User:UtherSRG" title="User:UtherSRG">UtherSRG</a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:UtherSRG" title="User talk:UtherSRG">(talk)</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-UtherSRG-20230125202800-184.80.225.218-20230125201100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:28, 25 January 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-UtherSRG-20230125202800-184.80.225.218-20230125201100"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-UtherSRG-20230125202800-184.80.225.218-20230125201100"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Poverty" data-mw-thread-id="h-Poverty-20230126230500"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Poverty-20230126230500"></span>Poverty<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Poverty-20230126230500"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-ThunderPeel2001-20230126230500-Poverty"></span>I've asked for a third opinion. <a href="/wiki/User:ThunderPeel2001" title="User:ThunderPeel2001">WikiMane11 (ThunderPeel)</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:ThunderPeel2001" title="User talk:ThunderPeel2001">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-ThunderPeel2001-20230126230500-Poverty" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:05, 26 January 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-ThunderPeel2001-20230126230500-Poverty"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-ThunderPeel2001-20230126230500-Poverty"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="not_selfpromo" data-mw-thread-id="h-not_selfpromo-20230126105900"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-not_selfpromo-20230126105900"></span>not selfpromo<span data-mw-comment-end="h-not_selfpromo-20230126105900"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Manchuprincess-20230126105900-not_selfpromo"></span>Dear MrOllie </p><p>Thanks for your effort for monitoring the edits. </p><p>My edits as of 25/01/2023 are not "selfpromo" but rather necessary additions to wikipedia. These are recent review articles published in prestige high-impact battery journals, by prof. Stefano Passerini a world-leading authoriterian figure in the field of lithium-ion battery with 121 H-index (121 publications with 121 citations each), summarising the state-of-art understanding, development and future directions. </p><p>I am going to undo your "deletes" and please leave as is. thanks <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Manchuprincess&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Manchuprincess (page does not exist)">Manchuprincess</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Manchuprincess" title="User talk:Manchuprincess">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-Manchuprincess-20230126105900-not_selfpromo" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:59, 26 January 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Manchuprincess-20230126105900-not_selfpromo"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Manchuprincess-20230126105900-not_selfpromo"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-MrOllie-20230126130100-Manchuprincess-20230126105900"></span>What is your association with Stefano Passerini and/or Kun V. Tian, then? <a href="/wiki/User:MrOllie" class="mw-redirect" title="User:MrOllie">MrOllie</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie#top" title="User talk:MrOllie">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-MrOllie-20230126130100-Manchuprincess-20230126105900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:01, 26 January 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-MrOllie-20230126130100-Manchuprincess-20230126105900"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-MrOllie-20230126130100-Manchuprincess-20230126105900"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Manchuprincess-20230127142900-MrOllie-20230126130100"></span>Stefano is a colleague and I am Kun V. Tian, we are knowlegable of this field through years of scientific research, and would like to contribute our knowledge. Will find time to edit the "unreliable source, better source needed, citation needed, etc." and I can not guarantee I will not cite our own publications if they are the reliable and better sources. <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Manchuprincess&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Manchuprincess (page does not exist)">Manchuprincess</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Manchuprincess" title="User talk:Manchuprincess">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-Manchuprincess-20230127142900-MrOllie-20230126130100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:29, 27 January 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Manchuprincess-20230127142900-MrOllie-20230126130100"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Manchuprincess-20230127142900-MrOllie-20230126130100"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-MrOllie-20230127143200-Manchuprincess-20230127142900"></span>You have a clear conflict of interest - I see that you have previously been warned about this on your user talk page, but have so far ignored the warnings. You absolutely should not be systematically adding self citations as you have been. If you would like to suggest one of your own papers as a citation, you may do so on the article's associated talk page. Do not add it yourself. - <a href="/wiki/User:MrOllie" class="mw-redirect" title="User:MrOllie">MrOllie</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie#top" title="User talk:MrOllie">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-MrOllie-20230127143200-Manchuprincess-20230127142900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:32, 27 January 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-MrOllie-20230127143200-Manchuprincess-20230127142900"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-MrOllie-20230127143200-Manchuprincess-20230127142900"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Correction_-_Definition_of_Risk" data-mw-thread-id="h-Correction_-_Definition_of_Risk-20230127182800"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Correction_-_Definition_of_Risk-20230127182800"></span>Correction - Definition of Risk<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Correction_-_Definition_of_Risk-20230127182800"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-MrOllie-20230127182800-Correction_-_Definition_of_Risk"></span>My recent update had a link to an academic paper that outlines some of the controversy around newfangled definitions of risk that do not conform with history, etymology or ordinary language use of the term. == mitchell360 == 18:27, 27 January 2023 (UTC) </p> <dl><dd>I looked at the paper, and it did not support the language you attempted to add to the article. Please direct all further conversation about this to the article's talk page, that is the proper location for this. - <a href="/wiki/User:MrOllie" class="mw-redirect" title="User:MrOllie">MrOllie</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie#top" title="User talk:MrOllie">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-MrOllie-20230127182800-Correction_-_Definition_of_Risk" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:28, 27 January 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-MrOllie-20230127182800-Correction_-_Definition_of_Risk"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-MrOllie-20230127182800-Correction_-_Definition_of_Risk"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="I’ve_protected_0" data-mw-thread-id="h-I’ve_protected_0-20230129172200"><span id="I.E2.80.99ve_protected_0"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-I’ve_protected_0-20230129172200"></span>I’ve protected 0<span data-mw-comment-end="h-I’ve_protected_0-20230129172200"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Doug_Weller-20230129172200-I’ve_protected_0"></span>Seemed the best thing to do. <a href="/wiki/User:Doug_Weller" title="User:Doug Weller"><span style="color:#070">Doug Weller</span></a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Doug_Weller" title="User talk:Doug Weller">talk</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-Doug_Weller-20230129172200-I’ve_protected_0" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:22, 29 January 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Doug_Weller-20230129172200-I’ve_protected_0"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Doug_Weller-20230129172200-I’ve_protected_0"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-MrOllie-20230129182900-Doug_Weller-20230129172200"></span>Unfortunate, but I suppose I don't disagree. <a href="/wiki/User:MrOllie" class="mw-redirect" title="User:MrOllie">MrOllie</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie#top" title="User talk:MrOllie">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-MrOllie-20230129182900-Doug_Weller-20230129172200" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:29, 29 January 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-MrOllie-20230129182900-Doug_Weller-20230129172200"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-MrOllie-20230129182900-Doug_Weller-20230129172200"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Doug_Weller-20230130091100-MrOllie-20230129182900"></span>Sorry, but as both of you were past 3RR.... <a href="/wiki/User:Doug_Weller" title="User:Doug Weller"><span style="color:#070">Doug Weller</span></a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Doug_Weller" title="User talk:Doug Weller">talk</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-Doug_Weller-20230130091100-MrOllie-20230129182900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:11, 30 January 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Doug_Weller-20230130091100-MrOllie-20230129182900"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Doug_Weller-20230130091100-MrOllie-20230129182900"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-MrOllie-20230130131600-Doug_Weller-20230130091100"></span>Neither of us were, actually (not after I noticed and self-reverted, anyway), but I understand protecting before anybody got themselves in trouble. Consensus has already developed on the talk page. <a href="/wiki/User:MrOllie" class="mw-redirect" title="User:MrOllie">MrOllie</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie#top" title="User talk:MrOllie">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-MrOllie-20230130131600-Doug_Weller-20230130091100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:16, 30 January 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-MrOllie-20230130131600-Doug_Weller-20230130091100"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-MrOllie-20230130131600-Doug_Weller-20230130091100"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Doug_Weller-20230130185400-MrOllie-20230130131600"></span>Shall I unprotect? <a href="/wiki/User:Doug_Weller" title="User:Doug Weller"><span style="color:#070">Doug Weller</span></a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Doug_Weller" title="User talk:Doug Weller">talk</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-Doug_Weller-20230130185400-MrOllie-20230130131600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:54, 30 January 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Doug_Weller-20230130185400-MrOllie-20230130131600"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Doug_Weller-20230130185400-MrOllie-20230130131600"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="How_to_create_a_new_page" data-mw-thread-id="h-How_to_create_a_new_page-20230131175500"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-How_to_create_a_new_page-20230131175500"></span>How to create a new page<span data-mw-comment-end="h-How_to_create_a_new_page-20230131175500"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Rahul8460R-20230131175500-How_to_create_a_new_page"></span>How to create a new pages that no exists on wikipedia? <a href="/wiki/User:MrOllie" class="mw-redirect" title="User:MrOllie">MrOllie</a> <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Rahul8460R&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Rahul8460R (page does not exist)">Rahul8460R</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Rahul8460R" title="User talk:Rahul8460R">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-Rahul8460R-20230131175500-How_to_create_a_new_page" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:55, 31 January 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Rahul8460R-20230131175500-How_to_create_a_new_page"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Rahul8460R-20230131175500-How_to_create_a_new_page"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-MrOllie-20230131180500-Rahul8460R-20230131175500"></span>The essential first step is to stop filling your drafts with <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:RS" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:RS">unreliable sources</a> and linkspam. - <a href="/wiki/User:MrOllie" class="mw-redirect" title="User:MrOllie">MrOllie</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie#top" title="User talk:MrOllie">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-MrOllie-20230131180500-Rahul8460R-20230131175500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:05, 31 January 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-MrOllie-20230131180500-Rahul8460R-20230131175500"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-MrOllie-20230131180500-Rahul8460R-20230131175500"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id=""AlphaFold_paper"" data-mw-thread-id="h-"AlphaFold_paper"-20230127030100"><span id=".22AlphaFold_paper.22"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-"AlphaFold_paper"-20230127030100"></span>"AlphaFold paper"<span data-mw-comment-end="h-"AlphaFold_paper"-20230127030100"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Kwikwivk-20230127030100-"AlphaFold_paper""></span>Daer MrOllie, </p><p>Could you please let me know why you delete all my comments which are related to the AlphaFold Paper? The edits that I made are very neutral and didn't contain any advertisements or promotions. If you think my edits on the AlphaFold Wikipedia page contain any promotions, please also delete the "SARS-CoV-2" section since it even mentions the university name. </p><p>Thank you. </p><p>--<a href="/wiki/User:Kwikwivk" title="User:Kwikwivk">Kwikwivk</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Kwikwivk" title="User talk:Kwikwivk">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-Kwikwivk-20230127030100-"AlphaFold_paper"" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">03:01, 27 January 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Kwikwivk-20230127030100-"AlphaFold_paper""></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Kwikwivk-20230127030100-"AlphaFold_paper""></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-MrOllie-20230127031000-Kwikwivk-20230127030100"></span>See <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:MEDRS" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:MEDRS">WP:MEDRS</a> and <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:PROMO" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:PROMO">WP:PROMO</a>. Wikipedia isn't a place to publicize particular companies or their R&D efforts, and even if your edits weren't promotional (they were) they must meet <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:MEDRS" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:MEDRS">WP:MEDRS</a> when the information is in the biomedical space. Can you explain what your relationship to Insilico and/or the paper's authors is? <a href="/wiki/User:MrOllie" class="mw-redirect" title="User:MrOllie">MrOllie</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie#top" title="User talk:MrOllie">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-MrOllie-20230127031000-Kwikwivk-20230127030100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">03:10, 27 January 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-MrOllie-20230127031000-Kwikwivk-20230127030100"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-MrOllie-20230127031000-Kwikwivk-20230127030100"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Kwikwivk-20230127043800-MrOllie-20230127031000"></span>GEN is a 3rd party source. I used <a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="https://www.genengnews.com/topics/drug-discovery/first-application-of-alphafold-in-identifying-potential-liver-cancer-drug/">https://www.genengnews.com/topics/drug-discovery/first-application-of-alphafold-in-identifying-potential-liver-cancer-drug/</a> to support my edits. Also, could you answer why the "SARS-coV-2" section meets the requirements then? They also "publicise their R&D efforts".</dd> <dd>Thank you. <a href="/wiki/User:Kwikwivk" title="User:Kwikwivk">Kwikwivk</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Kwikwivk" title="User talk:Kwikwivk">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-Kwikwivk-20230127043800-MrOllie-20230127031000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">04:38, 27 January 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Kwikwivk-20230127043800-MrOllie-20230127031000"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Kwikwivk-20230127043800-MrOllie-20230127031000"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-MrOllie-20230127134500-Kwikwivk-20230127043800"></span>Merely being a 3rd party source is not sufficient to meet sourcing requirements. I am disinclined to answer your questions about other sections if you're going to ignore my own queries. <a href="/wiki/User:MrOllie" class="mw-redirect" title="User:MrOllie">MrOllie</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie#top" title="User talk:MrOllie">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-MrOllie-20230127134500-Kwikwivk-20230127043800" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:45, 27 January 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-MrOllie-20230127134500-Kwikwivk-20230127043800"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-MrOllie-20230127134500-Kwikwivk-20230127043800"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Kwikwivk-20230131082600-MrOllie-20230127134500"></span>Thank you for your question. I have a bachelor's degree in biotechnology and work at Hong Kong Science and Technology Park. I attend a journal club and follow local research. I never got any payment for any Wiki edits, and I am not an author on any of these papers or companies, and I don't have coi.</dd> <dd>As you may know, Insilico is the most famous company in AIDD in Hong Kong. It may be unfair to treat our local DeepMind with bias. Since I am not paid and not associated with these studies, I hope you can reconsider your removal. I make many other edits and happy to follow more companies. <a href="/wiki/User:Kwikwivk" title="User:Kwikwivk">Kwikwivk</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Kwikwivk" title="User talk:Kwikwivk">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-Kwikwivk-20230131082600-MrOllie-20230127134500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">08:26, 31 January 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Kwikwivk-20230131082600-MrOllie-20230127134500"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Kwikwivk-20230131082600-MrOllie-20230127134500"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-MrOllie-20230131123700-Kwikwivk-20230131082600"></span>Given how much of your editing was promoting this company, and given the other accounts that have been doing the same, I stand by my removals. <a href="/wiki/User:MrOllie" class="mw-redirect" title="User:MrOllie">MrOllie</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie#top" title="User talk:MrOllie">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-MrOllie-20230131123700-Kwikwivk-20230131082600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:37, 31 January 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-MrOllie-20230131123700-Kwikwivk-20230131082600"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-MrOllie-20230131123700-Kwikwivk-20230131082600"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Kwikwivk-20230201012200-"AlphaFold_paper""></span>But this is simply not true. And I never edited company page and only learned how to improve articles and always complied with policy and provided high-quality edits. With no payment. What proof would you require from me? <a href="/wiki/User:Kwikwivk" title="User:Kwikwivk">Kwikwivk</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Kwikwivk" title="User talk:Kwikwivk">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-Kwikwivk-20230201012200-"AlphaFold_paper"" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">01:22, 1 February 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Kwikwivk-20230201012200-"AlphaFold_paper""></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Kwikwivk-20230201012200-"AlphaFold_paper""></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-MrOllie-20230201013000-Kwikwivk-20230201012200"></span>Your edits were transparent promotion, and they did not meet the <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:MEDRS" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:MEDRS">WP:MEDRS</a> standard. You were not complying with policy, and they were not 'high-quality' edits. I don't need any proof from you, your editing history is plenty. <a href="/wiki/User:MrOllie" class="mw-redirect" title="User:MrOllie">MrOllie</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie#top" title="User talk:MrOllie">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-MrOllie-20230201013000-Kwikwivk-20230201012200" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">01:30, 1 February 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-MrOllie-20230201013000-Kwikwivk-20230201012200"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-MrOllie-20230201013000-Kwikwivk-20230201012200"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="preprint_as_a_source" data-mw-thread-id="h-preprint_as_a_source-20230201161000"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-preprint_as_a_source-20230201161000"></span>preprint as a source<span data-mw-comment-end="h-preprint_as_a_source-20230201161000"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Agatagris-20230201161000-preprint_as_a_source"></span>Dear friend, you have reverted an edit based on the cited source as a preprint. I don´t find a valid reason. Or should we think that a web page like the ones cited is a better source?. Thanks a lot <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Agatagris&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Agatagris (page does not exist)">Agatagris</a> (<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Agatagris&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:Agatagris (page does not exist)">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-Agatagris-20230201161000-preprint_as_a_source" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:10, 1 February 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Agatagris-20230201161000-preprint_as_a_source"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Agatagris-20230201161000-preprint_as_a_source"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Doug_Weller-20230201165400-Agatagris-20230201161000"></span>@<a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Agatagris&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Agatagris (page does not exist)">Agatagris</a> See <a href="/wiki/Preprint#Disadvantages_of_preprints" title="Preprint">Preprint#Disadvantages of preprints</a>. We shouldn't use them. <a href="/wiki/User:Doug_Weller" title="User:Doug Weller"><span style="color:#070">Doug Weller</span></a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Doug_Weller" title="User talk:Doug Weller">talk</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-Doug_Weller-20230201165400-Agatagris-20230201161000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:54, 1 February 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Doug_Weller-20230201165400-Agatagris-20230201161000"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Doug_Weller-20230201165400-Agatagris-20230201161000"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="organic_farming_link" data-mw-thread-id="h-organic_farming_link-20230206151200"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-organic_farming_link-20230206151200"></span>organic farming link<span data-mw-comment-end="h-organic_farming_link-20230206151200"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Devil00012-20230206151200-organic_farming_link"></span>Dear sir! I added an external link on organic farming which contains full details about organic farming its benefits, types etc. So , added it because it gives more knowledge to users. Thank you. <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Devil00012&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Devil00012 (page does not exist)">Devil00012</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Devil00012" title="User talk:Devil00012">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-Devil00012-20230206151200-organic_farming_link" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:12, 6 February 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Devil00012-20230206151200-organic_farming_link"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Devil00012-20230206151200-organic_farming_link"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-MrOllie-20230206151500-Devil00012-20230206151200"></span>Your blog is not a usable source for Wikipedia. Please stop spamming us. - <a href="/wiki/User:MrOllie" class="mw-redirect" title="User:MrOllie">MrOllie</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie#top" title="User talk:MrOllie">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-MrOllie-20230206151500-Devil00012-20230206151200" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:15, 6 February 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-MrOllie-20230206151500-Devil00012-20230206151200"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-MrOllie-20230206151500-Devil00012-20230206151200"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Help_regarding_fit_of_external_link" data-mw-thread-id="h-Help_regarding_fit_of_external_link-20230206210200"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Help_regarding_fit_of_external_link-20230206210200"></span>Help regarding fit of external link<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Help_regarding_fit_of_external_link-20230206210200"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-TMorata-20230206210200-Help_regarding_fit_of_external_link"></span>Hi, an external link was added to the Cochlear Implant International Community of Action to the article Cochlear Implant. This group is an NGO global volunteer "community of cochlear implant user and family advocacy groups and individuals who support a shared vision of closing the global gap in cochlear implant provision and ensuring lifelong support for all who benefit." They produce documents to help decision making by the public as well as by health care systems such as described here <a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="https://ciicanet.org/resources/">https://ciicanet.org/resources/</a> </p><p>You deleted the link and mentioned <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:ELNO" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:ELNO">WP:ELNO</a>, which was very helpful, thanks. Still, it left me wondering if there was another way to keep the link, perhaps by making it clear what they have to offer? I ask because it seems to me that what they offer is helpful to the public. I am not associated with them but I am trying to help them develop a strategy for their members to contribute input into Wikipedia. Sorry for the long entry. </p><p><a href="/wiki/User:TMorata" title="User:TMorata">TMorata</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:TMorata" title="User talk:TMorata">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-TMorata-20230206210200-Help_regarding_fit_of_external_link" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:02, 6 February 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-TMorata-20230206210200-Help_regarding_fit_of_external_link"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-TMorata-20230206210200-Help_regarding_fit_of_external_link"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-MrOllie-20230206210700-TMorata-20230206210200"></span>I really don't think so. Wikipedia isn't in the business of promoting or spreading advocacy, even when the causes involved are good ones. We don't link to the Humane society on animal articles or the Sierra Club on articles about forests either. <a href="/wiki/User:MrOllie" class="mw-redirect" title="User:MrOllie">MrOllie</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie#top" title="User talk:MrOllie">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-MrOllie-20230206210700-TMorata-20230206210200" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:07, 6 February 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-MrOllie-20230206210700-TMorata-20230206210200"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-MrOllie-20230206210700-TMorata-20230206210200"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-TMorata-20230206222500-MrOllie-20230206210700"></span>Thanks for the prompt reply. I appreciate it.</dd> <dd><a href="/wiki/User:TMorata" title="User:TMorata">TMorata</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:TMorata" title="User talk:TMorata">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-TMorata-20230206222500-MrOllie-20230206210700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:25, 6 February 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-TMorata-20230206222500-MrOllie-20230206210700"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-TMorata-20230206222500-MrOllie-20230206210700"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Captain_Wikipedia_is_available!" data-mw-thread-id="h-Captain_Wikipedia_is_available!-20230207005100"><span id="Captain_Wikipedia_is_available.21"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Captain_Wikipedia_is_available!-20230207005100"></span>Captain Wikipedia is available!<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Captain_Wikipedia_is_available!-20230207005100"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Thinker78-20230207005100-Captain_Wikipedia_is_available!"></span><figure class="mw-default-size" typeof="mw:File/Thumb"><a href="/wiki/File:Captain_Cook_at_Gisborne.jpg" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/4/4d/Captain_Cook_at_Gisborne.jpg/110px-Captain_Cook_at_Gisborne.jpg" decoding="async" width="110" height="142" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/4/4d/Captain_Cook_at_Gisborne.jpg/165px-Captain_Cook_at_Gisborne.jpg 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/4/4d/Captain_Cook_at_Gisborne.jpg/220px-Captain_Cook_at_Gisborne.jpg 2x" data-file-width="2447" data-file-height="3168"/></a><figcaption></figcaption></figure> <p>The user name <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:CaptainWikipedia&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:CaptainWikipedia (page does not exist)">CaptainWikipedia</a> is available!! Just a jest, sorry, I <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Massmediazealot">couldn't resist</a>. Cheers! <span style="border-radius:8em;padding:0 7px;background:orange"><a href="/wiki/User:Thinker78" title="User:Thinker78"><span style="color:white"><b>Thinker78</b></span></a></span> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Thinker78" title="User talk:Thinker78">(talk)</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-Thinker78-20230207005100-Captain_Wikipedia_is_available!" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:51, 7 February 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Thinker78-20230207005100-Captain_Wikipedia_is_available!"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Thinker78-20230207005100-Captain_Wikipedia_is_available!"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Blogs_as_sources" data-mw-thread-id="h-Blogs_as_sources-20230208150600"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Blogs_as_sources-20230208150600"></span>Blogs as sources<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Blogs_as_sources-20230208150600"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Lana_klsam-20230208150600-Blogs_as_sources"></span>Good evening Mr Ollie, I want to ask you about the reason for reverting my citation in the tourism article. Since I rephrase what is written from the other page, and I cited the link for the reliable website. I would like to hear from you. Thank you in advance. <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Lana_klsam&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Lana klsam (page does not exist)">Lana klsam</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Lana_klsam" title="User talk:Lana klsam">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-Lana_klsam-20230208150600-Blogs_as_sources" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:06, 8 February 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Lana_klsam-20230208150600-Blogs_as_sources"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Lana_klsam-20230208150600-Blogs_as_sources"></span> </p> <dl><dd>Wikipedia doesn't use blog posts as sources, and Wikipedia does not express opinions in that manner ('Tourism can be a great and a viable option'). I reverted for both reasons. - <a href="/wiki/User:MrOllie" class="mw-redirect" title="User:MrOllie">MrOllie</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie#top" title="User talk:MrOllie">talk</a>)</dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Regarding_reverting_edits_to_the_Ambient_Intelligence_page" data-mw-thread-id="h-Regarding_reverting_edits_to_the_Ambient_Intelligence_page-20230210194000"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Regarding_reverting_edits_to_the_Ambient_Intelligence_page-20230210194000"></span>Regarding reverting edits to the Ambient Intelligence page<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Regarding_reverting_edits_to_the_Ambient_Intelligence_page-20230210194000"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Wikibn11-20230210194000-Regarding_reverting_edits_to_the_Ambient_Intelligence_page"></span>Hello Mr. Ollie, </p><p>Pursuant to our exchange on the Talk page for the "<a href="/wiki/Ambient_Intelligence" class="mw-redirect" title="Ambient Intelligence">Ambient Intelligence</a>" article - First, thank you for your comments. </p><p>In any case, I revised my edits according to your comments, focusing only on language edits, and was wondering if you'd be willing to take a quick look before I make them on the live article (I wouldn't want to make them and for them be reverted again)? I hope this is an acceptable request. </p><p>Kindly let me know. </p><p>Many thanks. <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Wikibn11&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Wikibn11 (page does not exist)">Wikibn11</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Wikibn11" title="User talk:Wikibn11">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-Wikibn11-20230210194000-Regarding_reverting_edits_to_the_Ambient_Intelligence_page" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:40, 10 February 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Wikibn11-20230210194000-Regarding_reverting_edits_to_the_Ambient_Intelligence_page"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Wikibn11-20230210194000-Regarding_reverting_edits_to_the_Ambient_Intelligence_page"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-MrOllie-20230210202700-Wikibn11-20230210194000"></span>Keep all discussion on the article's talk page, please. If you have edits to propose, you may do so there. <a href="/wiki/User:MrOllie" class="mw-redirect" title="User:MrOllie">MrOllie</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie#top" title="User talk:MrOllie">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-MrOllie-20230210202700-Wikibn11-20230210194000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:27, 10 February 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-MrOllie-20230210202700-Wikibn11-20230210194000"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-MrOllie-20230210202700-Wikibn11-20230210194000"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Wikibn11-20230210205300-MrOllie-20230210202700"></span>Will do. Thanks. <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Wikibn11&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Wikibn11 (page does not exist)">Wikibn11</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Wikibn11" title="User talk:Wikibn11">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-Wikibn11-20230210205300-MrOllie-20230210202700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:53, 10 February 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Wikibn11-20230210205300-MrOllie-20230210202700"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Wikibn11-20230210205300-MrOllie-20230210202700"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="References_to_chesshistory.com" data-mw-thread-id="h-References_to_chesshistory.com-20230211055800"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-References_to_chesshistory.com-20230211055800"></span>References to chesshistory.com<span data-mw-comment-end="h-References_to_chesshistory.com-20230211055800"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Bruce_leverett-20230211055800-References_to_chesshistory.com"></span>I see that you have been removing some links to chesshistory.com from chess-related pages. You should be aware that there are (at least) two different users who have been adding these links: <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Faranan2030&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Faranan2030 (page does not exist)">User:Faranan2030</a> and <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Chess2050&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Chess2050 (page does not exist)">User:Chess2050</a>. There was some discussion of the issues in <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Chess2050" title="User talk:Chess2050">User talk:Chess2050</a> in late 2019. </p><p>In a nutshell, Winter's website is generally regarded as a reliable secondary source for chess history material. But adding citations of one's own website to Wikipedia is not a constructive pastime, for reasons that I am sure you are familiar with; and I don't think that adding citations of someone else's website is a good idea, either. </p><p>Another interesting question is why two different users are involved. The first thing I thought of was that some sort of block evasion might be involved; but I don't know that either of these users has been blocked. A look at the history of <a href="/wiki/Raymond_Keene" title="Raymond Keene">Raymond Keene</a> shows that one user has restored material that was originally contributed by the other, but deleted by one or another third party. </p><p>Thanks for your interest. <a href="/wiki/User:Bruce_leverett" title="User:Bruce leverett">Bruce leverett</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Bruce_leverett" title="User talk:Bruce leverett">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-Bruce_leverett-20230211055800-References_to_chesshistory.com" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">05:58, 11 February 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Bruce_leverett-20230211055800-References_to_chesshistory.com"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Bruce_leverett-20230211055800-References_to_chesshistory.com"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-MrOllie-20230211123500-Bruce_leverett-20230211055800"></span>Yes. Also <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Barnabas17&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Barnabas17 (page does not exist)">Barnabas17</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Barnabas17" title="User talk:Barnabas17">talk</a> <b>·</b> <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Barnabas17" title="Special:Contributions/Barnabas17">contribs</a>) and a few IPs. There's no overlap, so even if it is the same person I doubt the use of multiple accounts is a policy violation. The systematic linking is definitely an issue, though. <a href="/wiki/User:MrOllie" class="mw-redirect" title="User:MrOllie">MrOllie</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie#top" title="User talk:MrOllie">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-MrOllie-20230211123500-Bruce_leverett-20230211055800" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:35, 11 February 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-MrOllie-20230211123500-Bruce_leverett-20230211055800"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-MrOllie-20230211123500-Bruce_leverett-20230211055800"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Overzealous_Deletion" data-mw-thread-id="h-Overzealous_Deletion-20230211203300"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Overzealous_Deletion-20230211203300"></span>Overzealous Deletion<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Overzealous_Deletion-20230211203300"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Luciano.nyc-20230211203300-Overzealous_Deletion"></span>I have added to the page "Digital Nomad" a translation of the resolution supporting the Digital Nomad Visa in Brazil as a reference. You have deleted it, as this was spamming. However, in the same reference section, there is an entry for the exact resolution in Portuguese, which adds zero value to a page in English. </p><p>Please refer to <a class="external free" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Overzealous_deletion">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Overzealous_deletion</a> <small class="autosigned">— Preceding <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Signatures" title="Wikipedia:Signatures">unsigned</a> comment added by <a href="/wiki/User:Luciano.nyc" title="User:Luciano.nyc">Luciano.nyc</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Luciano.nyc#top" title="User talk:Luciano.nyc">talk</a> • <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Luciano.nyc" title="Special:Contributions/Luciano.nyc">contribs</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-Luciano.nyc-20230211203300-Overzealous_Deletion" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:33, 11 February 2023 (UTC)</a></small><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Luciano.nyc-20230211203300-Overzealous_Deletion"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Luciano.nyc-20230211203300-Overzealous_Deletion"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-MrOllie-20230211203600-Luciano.nyc-20230211203300"></span>You added a link to your own website, which is most of your activity here. That is indeed spamming. There is no requirement that all citations be in English. - <a href="/wiki/User:MrOllie" class="mw-redirect" title="User:MrOllie">MrOllie</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie#top" title="User talk:MrOllie">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-MrOllie-20230211203600-Luciano.nyc-20230211203300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:36, 11 February 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-MrOllie-20230211203600-Luciano.nyc-20230211203300"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-MrOllie-20230211203600-Luciano.nyc-20230211203300"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-MrOllie-20230211234200-MrOllie-20230211203600"></span>There is no rule saying I cannot link to my website and how much of my activity is adding links to my website does not make the entry you reverted spammy.</dd> <dd>Finally, the fact that there is no requirement for citations to be in English does not explain why you see value in an entry in Portuguese and no value for my entry in English. Luciano Oliveira 20:43, 11 February 2023 (UTC) <small class="autosigned">— Preceding <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Signatures" title="Wikipedia:Signatures">unsigned</a> comment added by <a href="/wiki/User:Luciano.nyc" title="User:Luciano.nyc">Luciano.nyc</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Luciano.nyc#top" title="User talk:Luciano.nyc">talk</a> • <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Luciano.nyc" title="Special:Contributions/Luciano.nyc">contribs</a>) </small> <dl><dd>See <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:COI" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:COI">WP:COI</a>, <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:CITESPAM" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:CITESPAM">WP:CITESPAM</a>, and <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:ELNO" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:ELNO">WP:ELNO</a> points 4 and 11. If you are <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:HERE" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:HERE">here to build an encyclopedia</a> and not to link your own sites, I suggest you start working from <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:RS" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:RS">reliable sources</a>, such as peer-reviewed articles or books from major publishers. If you're here to link your own sites, I do not expect that will go well once an admin notices. - <a href="/wiki/User:MrOllie" class="mw-redirect" title="User:MrOllie">MrOllie</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie#top" title="User talk:MrOllie">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-MrOllie-20230211234200-MrOllie-20230211203600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:42, 11 February 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-MrOllie-20230211234200-MrOllie-20230211203600"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-MrOllie-20230211234200-MrOllie-20230211203600"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Regarding_reverting_edits_to_Medical_device_page" data-mw-thread-id="h-Regarding_reverting_edits_to_Medical_device_page-20230212153000"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Regarding_reverting_edits_to_Medical_device_page-20230212153000"></span>Regarding reverting edits to Medical device page<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Regarding_reverting_edits_to_Medical_device_page-20230212153000"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Roastedanna-20230212153000-Regarding_reverting_edits_to_Medical_device_page"></span>Restored revision <a class="external free" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Medical_device&oldid=1137576819">https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Medical_device&oldid=1137576819</a> 1136146439 by <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Ozzie10aaaa" title="Special:Contributions/Ozzie10aaaa">Ozzie10aaaa</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Ozzie10aaaa" title="User talk:Ozzie10aaaa">talk</a>): <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:MEDRS" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:MEDRS">WP:MEDRS</a> / promo of particular device <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Medical_device&action=edit&undoafter=1137576819&undo=1137594559">undo</a> </p><p>My edit is not promotional rather an example of an unrepresented type of technology as stated in the source. </p><p>The example was given because of the source for "electromagnetic tracking system (EMTS)" </p><p>If Wikipedia find this too promotional I suggest to publish my entry as follows: </p> <ol><li><b>Navigation-guided equipment</b> includes navigation systems for the brain, cardiology, ENT (ears, nose, throat), lung procedures, and navigation systems for placing enteral feeding tubes. Enteral feeding tubes are placed in the stomach or small intestine to maintain the patient’s food, fluid and medications intake, for example ENvue System or other placement devices.</li></ol> <p>Kindly let me know. <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Roastedanna&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Roastedanna (page does not exist)">Roastedanna</a> (<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Roastedanna&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:Roastedanna (page does not exist)">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-Roastedanna-20230212153000-Regarding_reverting_edits_to_Medical_device_page" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:30, 12 February 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Roastedanna-20230212153000-Regarding_reverting_edits_to_Medical_device_page"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Roastedanna-20230212153000-Regarding_reverting_edits_to_Medical_device_page"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-MrOllie-20230212154700-Roastedanna-20230212153000"></span>1) That would not solve the issue that your sourcing does not comply with <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:MEDRS" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:MEDRS">WP:MEDRS</a> and 2) Mentioning a specific system in this context is still promoting it. <a href="/wiki/User:MrOllie" class="mw-redirect" title="User:MrOllie">MrOllie</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie#top" title="User talk:MrOllie">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-MrOllie-20230212154700-Roastedanna-20230212153000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:47, 12 February 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-MrOllie-20230212154700-Roastedanna-20230212153000"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-MrOllie-20230212154700-Roastedanna-20230212153000"></span></dd></dl> <div style="clear:both;" class=""></div> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Regarding_reverting_edits_to_the_polyominoes_page" data-mw-thread-id="h-Regarding_reverting_edits_to_the_polyominoes_page"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Regarding_reverting_edits_to_the_polyominoes_page"></span>Regarding reverting edits to the polyominoes page<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Regarding_reverting_edits_to_the_polyominoes_page"></span></h2></div> <p>Please follow the discussion I started on the following wiki page and justify your action. <a class="external free" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Polyomino#External_links_modified">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Polyomino#External_links_modified</a> <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Pan-wiki-tsik&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Pan-wiki-tsik (page does not exist)">Pan-wiki-tsik</a> (<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Pan-wiki-tsik&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:Pan-wiki-tsik (page does not exist)">talk</a>) </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Edward_Winter" data-mw-thread-id="h-Edward_Winter-20230211134400"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Edward_Winter-20230211134400"></span>Edward Winter<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Edward_Winter-20230211134400"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-MaxBrowne2-20230211134400-Edward_Winter"></span>Winter is a well regarded chess historian. He is very meticulous with his sources (same as wikipedians are expected to be). He has published several books. He certainly qualifies as a subject matter expert. <a href="/wiki/User:MaxBrowne2" title="User:MaxBrowne2">MaxBrowne2</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:MaxBrowne2" title="User talk:MaxBrowne2">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-MaxBrowne2-20230211134400-Edward_Winter" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:44, 11 February 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-MaxBrowne2-20230211134400-Edward_Winter"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-MaxBrowne2-20230211134400-Edward_Winter"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-MrOllie-20230211140800-MaxBrowne2-20230211134400"></span>See the section immediately above this one. His website is also being systematically spammed across Wikipedia. (spam is a behaviour, not necessarily a content judgment) <a href="/wiki/User:MrOllie" class="mw-redirect" title="User:MrOllie">MrOllie</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie#top" title="User talk:MrOllie">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-MrOllie-20230211140800-MaxBrowne2-20230211134400" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:08, 11 February 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-MrOllie-20230211140800-MaxBrowne2-20230211134400"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-MrOllie-20230211140800-MaxBrowne2-20230211134400"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Bruce_leverett-20230211222000-MrOllie-20230211140800"></span>In <a href="/wiki/Elaine_Pritchard" title="Elaine Pritchard">Elaine Pritchard</a>, the citation of Winter at the first sentence was not due to spamming, but was present when the article was first created. <a href="/wiki/User:Bruce_leverett" title="User:Bruce leverett">Bruce leverett</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Bruce_leverett" title="User talk:Bruce leverett">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-Bruce_leverett-20230211222000-MrOllie-20230211140800" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:20, 11 February 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Bruce_leverett-20230211222000-MrOllie-20230211140800"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Bruce_leverett-20230211222000-MrOllie-20230211140800"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Bruce_leverett-20230213041600-Bruce_leverett-20230211222000"></span>In <a href="/wiki/Bobby_Fischer" title="Bobby Fischer">Bobby Fischer</a>, in addition to the recent "spammed" reference to Winter, you deleted three others. It is pretty breathtaking that you removed citations supporting the article text, without removing the text itself or at least providing a "citation needed" tag. Anyway, two of those citations were added by <a href="/wiki/User:Krakatoa" title="User:Krakatoa">User:Krakatoa</a> in 2010, in response to someone else's "citation needed" tag. The third one was added by <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Faranan2030&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Faranan2030 (page does not exist)">User:Faranan2030</a> to support some text that the same user added. My reading of the that text and the cited reference does not give me a clear answer to the question of whether they were a helpful addition to the article. I will discuss this further in the talk page of the article. However, this material (about the training match with Gligoric prior to the 1992 Spassky match) has been in the article for almost a decade, so one must certainly get consensus before removing it. In the meantime I will revert the deletion of the three citations. <a href="/wiki/User:Bruce_leverett" title="User:Bruce leverett">Bruce leverett</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Bruce_leverett" title="User talk:Bruce leverett">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-Bruce_leverett-20230213041600-Bruce_leverett-20230211222000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">04:16, 13 February 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Bruce_leverett-20230213041600-Bruce_leverett-20230211222000"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Bruce_leverett-20230213041600-Bruce_leverett-20230211222000"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Images" data-mw-thread-id="h-Images-20230215163300"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Images-20230215163300"></span>Images<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Images-20230215163300"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Jacanaps-20230215163300-Images"></span>What do you propose they should go on? <a href="/wiki/User:Jacanaps" title="User:Jacanaps">Jacanaps</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Jacanaps" title="User talk:Jacanaps">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-Jacanaps-20230215163300-Images" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:33, 15 February 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Jacanaps-20230215163300-Images"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Jacanaps-20230215163300-Images"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-MrOllie-20230215163400-Jacanaps-20230215163300"></span>We cannot use images under copyright as decoration, see <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Image_use_policy" title="Wikipedia:Image use policy">Wikipedia:Image use policy</a>. - <a href="/wiki/User:MrOllie" class="mw-redirect" title="User:MrOllie">MrOllie</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie#top" title="User talk:MrOllie">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-MrOllie-20230215163400-Jacanaps-20230215163300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:34, 15 February 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-MrOllie-20230215163400-Jacanaps-20230215163300"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-MrOllie-20230215163400-Jacanaps-20230215163300"></span></dd></dl> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Jacanaps-20230215163700-Images"></span>Ok I get it can you recreate them where they won't be copyright what can they be? <a href="/wiki/User:Jacanaps" title="User:Jacanaps">Jacanaps</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Jacanaps" title="User talk:Jacanaps">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-Jacanaps-20230215163700-Images" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:37, 15 February 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Jacanaps-20230215163700-Images"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Jacanaps-20230215163700-Images"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-MrOllie-20230215163900-Jacanaps-20230215163700"></span>No. We would need a release from the copyright holder, which we are not going to get. - <a href="/wiki/User:MrOllie" class="mw-redirect" title="User:MrOllie">MrOllie</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie#top" title="User talk:MrOllie">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-MrOllie-20230215163900-Jacanaps-20230215163700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:39, 15 February 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-MrOllie-20230215163900-Jacanaps-20230215163700"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-MrOllie-20230215163900-Jacanaps-20230215163700"></span></dd></dl> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Jacanaps-20230215164000-Images"></span>Ok sorry is there anything I can do to help? <a href="/wiki/User:Jacanaps" title="User:Jacanaps">Jacanaps</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Jacanaps" title="User talk:Jacanaps">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-Jacanaps-20230215164000-Images" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:40, 15 February 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Jacanaps-20230215164000-Images"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Jacanaps-20230215164000-Images"></span> </p><p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Jacanaps-20230215164100-Images"></span>If there's nothing we can do I understand. <a href="/wiki/User:Jacanaps" title="User:Jacanaps">Jacanaps</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Jacanaps" title="User talk:Jacanaps">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-Jacanaps-20230215164100-Images" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:41, 15 February 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Jacanaps-20230215164100-Images"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Jacanaps-20230215164100-Images"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-MrOllie-20230215164500-Jacanaps-20230215164100"></span>No, not unless you happen to own the rights to one of these movies. <a href="/wiki/User:MrOllie" class="mw-redirect" title="User:MrOllie">MrOllie</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie#top" title="User talk:MrOllie">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-MrOllie-20230215164500-Jacanaps-20230215164100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:45, 15 February 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-MrOllie-20230215164500-Jacanaps-20230215164100"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-MrOllie-20230215164500-Jacanaps-20230215164100"></span></dd></dl> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Jacanaps-20230215164600-Images"></span>I don't think this person who made the images meant for they to be copyright he probably didn't know what to do. <a href="/wiki/User:Jacanaps" title="User:Jacanaps">Jacanaps</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Jacanaps" title="User talk:Jacanaps">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-Jacanaps-20230215164600-Images" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:46, 15 February 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Jacanaps-20230215164600-Images"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Jacanaps-20230215164600-Images"></span> </p><p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Jacanaps-20230215164700-Images"></span>He must have gotten confused and made minor mistakes. <a href="/wiki/User:Jacanaps" title="User:Jacanaps">Jacanaps</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Jacanaps" title="User talk:Jacanaps">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-Jacanaps-20230215164700-Images" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:47, 15 February 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Jacanaps-20230215164700-Images"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Jacanaps-20230215164700-Images"></span> </p><p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Jacanaps-20230215164900-Images"></span>The images weren't ugly weren't they? <a href="/wiki/User:Jacanaps" title="User:Jacanaps">Jacanaps</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Jacanaps" title="User talk:Jacanaps">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-Jacanaps-20230215164900-Images" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:49, 15 February 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Jacanaps-20230215164900-Images"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Jacanaps-20230215164900-Images"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-MrOllie-20230215165000-Jacanaps-20230215164900"></span>Irrelevant. <a href="/wiki/User:MrOllie" class="mw-redirect" title="User:MrOllie">MrOllie</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie#top" title="User talk:MrOllie">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-MrOllie-20230215165000-Jacanaps-20230215164900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:50, 15 February 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-MrOllie-20230215165000-Jacanaps-20230215164900"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-MrOllie-20230215165000-Jacanaps-20230215164900"></span></dd></dl> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Jacanaps-20230215165400-Images"></span>So I guess there's nothing we can do not unless one of us is an autocomformined user. <a href="/wiki/User:Jacanaps" title="User:Jacanaps">Jacanaps</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Jacanaps" title="User talk:Jacanaps">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-Jacanaps-20230215165400-Images" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:54, 15 February 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Jacanaps-20230215165400-Images"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Jacanaps-20230215165400-Images"></span> </p><p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Jacanaps-20230215170300-Images"></span>There's no use of using the images now they were deleted from wikicommons. <a href="/wiki/User:Jacanaps" title="User:Jacanaps">Jacanaps</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Jacanaps" title="User talk:Jacanaps">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-Jacanaps-20230215170300-Images" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:03, 15 February 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Jacanaps-20230215170300-Images"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Jacanaps-20230215170300-Images"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="removal_of_relevant_content_from_a_wikipedia_page" data-mw-thread-id="h-removal_of_relevant_content_from_a_wikipedia_page-20230216131500"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-removal_of_relevant_content_from_a_wikipedia_page-20230216131500"></span>removal of relevant content from a wikipedia page<span data-mw-comment-end="h-removal_of_relevant_content_from_a_wikipedia_page-20230216131500"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-193.251.49.93-20230216131500-removal_of_relevant_content_from_a_wikipedia_page"></span>Hello MrOllie, When I went by chance on the <a class="external free" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_anti-plagiarism_software">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_anti-plagiarism_software</a> page, I saw that you had removed the Compilatio software from the list for the following reason: "nonnotable software". Compilatio is an anti-plagiarism solution that equips more than 1000 institutions in 35 countries around the world! Can you please argue your alteration? </p><p>Thank you <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/193.251.49.93" title="Special:Contributions/193.251.49.93">193.251.49.93</a> (<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:193.251.49.93&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:193.251.49.93 (page does not exist)">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-193.251.49.93-20230216131500-removal_of_relevant_content_from_a_wikipedia_page" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:15, 16 February 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-193.251.49.93-20230216131500-removal_of_relevant_content_from_a_wikipedia_page"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-193.251.49.93-20230216131500-removal_of_relevant_content_from_a_wikipedia_page"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-MrOllie-20230216132300-193.251.49.93-20230216131500"></span>That is a list of software with preexisting Wikipedia articles. <a href="/wiki/User:MrOllie" class="mw-redirect" title="User:MrOllie">MrOllie</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie#top" title="User talk:MrOllie">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-MrOllie-20230216132300-193.251.49.93-20230216131500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:23, 16 February 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-MrOllie-20230216132300-193.251.49.93-20230216131500"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-MrOllie-20230216132300-193.251.49.93-20230216131500"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Sorry_about_wasting_everyone's_time" data-mw-thread-id="h-Sorry_about_wasting_everyone's_time-20230218020200"><span id="Sorry_about_wasting_everyone.27s_time"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Sorry_about_wasting_everyone's_time-20230218020200"></span>Sorry about wasting everyone's time<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Sorry_about_wasting_everyone's_time-20230218020200"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-ScottishFinnishRadish-20230218020200-Sorry_about_wasting_everyone's_time"></span>From time to time I try and explain how things work to one of the IPs that pops up, in hopes that maybe they'll understand how we operate. It seldom works, but I still feel compelled to try from time to time. <a href="/wiki/User:ScottishFinnishRadish" title="User:ScottishFinnishRadish">ScottishFinnishRadish</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:ScottishFinnishRadish" title="User talk:ScottishFinnishRadish">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-ScottishFinnishRadish-20230218020200-Sorry_about_wasting_everyone's_time" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">02:02, 18 February 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-ScottishFinnishRadish-20230218020200-Sorry_about_wasting_everyone's_time"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-ScottishFinnishRadish-20230218020200-Sorry_about_wasting_everyone's_time"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-MrOllie-20230218020600-ScottishFinnishRadish-20230218020200"></span>There's been more activity on the GBD bios lately, I suspect these are folks coming in from a twitter thread somewhere already spoiling for a fight. <a href="/wiki/User:MrOllie" class="mw-redirect" title="User:MrOllie">MrOllie</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie#top" title="User talk:MrOllie">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-MrOllie-20230218020600-ScottishFinnishRadish-20230218020200" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">02:06, 18 February 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-MrOllie-20230218020600-ScottishFinnishRadish-20230218020200"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-MrOllie-20230218020600-ScottishFinnishRadish-20230218020200"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Request_for_the_Removal_of_Block_on_[www.techpedo.com]_from_Wikipedia" data-mw-thread-id="h-Request_for_the_Removal_of_Block_on_[www.techpedo.com]_from_Wikipedia-20230220103900"><span id="Request_for_the_Removal_of_Block_on_.5Bwww.techpedo.com.5D_from_Wikipedia"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Request_for_the_Removal_of_Block_on_[www.techpedo.com]_from_Wikipedia-20230220103900"></span>Request for the Removal of Block on [www.techpedo.com] from Wikipedia<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Request_for_the_Removal_of_Block_on_[www.techpedo.com]_from_Wikipedia-20230220103900"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Abdulimran007-20230220103900-Request_for_the_Removal_of_Block_on_[www.techpedo.com]_from_Wikipedia"></span>Dear Wikipedia administrators, </p><p>I am writing to request that the block on my domain be lifted. I understand that my website has been blocked due to concerns about spamming, vandalism, or other malicious activity. I would like to assure you that I have taken steps to address these issues, and I am committed to following Wikipedia's policies and guidelines in the future. </p><p>Firstly, I would like to apologize for any past behavior that may have contributed to the block. I understand that Wikipedia has strict policies for maintaining a respectful and informative community, and I am committed to abiding by these policies in the future. </p><p>I have taken the following steps to address any issues that may have led to the block: </p><p>I have reviewed Wikipedia's policies and guidelines on external links, and I now understand what is and is not acceptable. I have reviewed the content on my website to ensure that it is not in violation of Wikipedia's policies, and I have removed any content that may be problematic. I have implemented measures to prevent spamming, vandalism, or any other malicious activity on my website. I would like to request that my domain be unblocked so that I can contribute to Wikipedia in a positive and constructive way. I understand that Wikipedia is committed to promoting reliable sources and maintaining a high level of accuracy in its content, and I share this commitment. I would be willing to work with the community to ensure that any links I post are in line with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. </p><p>Thank you for your time and consideration. I am committed to following Wikipedia's policies and guidelines in the future, and I pledge to ensure that my website never becomes a source of concern again. </p><p>Sincerely, </p><p>[Abdul imran] [www.techpedo.com] <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Abdulimran007&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Abdulimran007 (page does not exist)">Abdulimran007</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Abdulimran007" title="User talk:Abdulimran007">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-Abdulimran007-20230220103900-Request_for_the_Removal_of_Block_on_[www.techpedo.com]_from_Wikipedia" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:39, 20 February 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Abdulimran007-20230220103900-Request_for_the_Removal_of_Block_on_[www.techpedo.com]_from_Wikipedia"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Abdulimran007-20230220103900-Request_for_the_Removal_of_Block_on_[www.techpedo.com]_from_Wikipedia"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-MrOllie-20230220133400-Abdulimran007-20230220103900"></span>I'm afraid Wikipedia does not entertain requests for blacklist removals made by site owners, especially not when they are (still) evading blocks they have received. Posting here it all is a violation of Wikipedia's policy. <a href="/wiki/User:MrOllie" class="mw-redirect" title="User:MrOllie">MrOllie</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie#top" title="User talk:MrOllie">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-MrOllie-20230220133400-Abdulimran007-20230220103900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:34, 20 February 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-MrOllie-20230220133400-Abdulimran007-20230220103900"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-MrOllie-20230220133400-Abdulimran007-20230220103900"></span></dd></dl> <p><br/> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Removal_of_Pages" data-mw-thread-id="h-Removal_of_Pages-20230215134600"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Removal_of_Pages-20230215134600"></span>Removal of Pages<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Removal_of_Pages-20230215134600"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-POLNET55-20230220153300-Removal_of_Pages"></span>Stop to show your power. You are in the community and be normal. It looks very stupid when somebody got power and starts to use it in Wikipedia. I already 10 years here and know such kind of individuals who are not able to be strong in the real world and transfer it to the virtual. It is already known that next your step will be to block me <a href="/w/index.php?title=POLNET55&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="POLNET55 (page does not exist)">POLNET55</a> <small class="autosigned">— Preceding <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Signatures" title="Wikipedia:Signatures">unsigned</a> comment added by <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:POLNET55&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:POLNET55 (page does not exist)">POLNET55</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:POLNET55#top" title="User talk:POLNET55">talk</a> • <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/POLNET55" title="Special:Contributions/POLNET55">contribs</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-POLNET55-20230220153300-Removal_of_Pages" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:33, 20 February 2023 (UTC)</a></small><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-POLNET55-20230220153300-Removal_of_Pages"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-POLNET55-20230220153300-Removal_of_Pages"></span> </p><p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Kushdeep12-20230215134600-Removal_of_Pages"></span>Mr.Onlie Hi, It was necessary. Because none of these sources are of the Government of India. The information is based on just two person's opinions, just published in a regional magazine. You can check it. How can we add such information? So I removed, As Wikipedia is world-wide famous and provides correct information . I noticed you again added it. My request to you, please remove it. <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Kushdeep12&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Kushdeep12 (page does not exist)">Kushdeep12</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Kushdeep12" title="User talk:Kushdeep12">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-Kushdeep12-20230215134600-Removal_of_Pages" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:46, 15 February 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Kushdeep12-20230215134600-Removal_of_Pages"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Kushdeep12-20230215134600-Removal_of_Pages"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-MrOllie-20230215135100-Kushdeep12-20230215134600"></span>You can find Wikipedia's guidelines on sources at <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:RS" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:RS">WP:RS</a>. As you can see, we cite much more than the 'Government of India'. Your deletions are improper. <a href="/wiki/User:MrOllie" class="mw-redirect" title="User:MrOllie">MrOllie</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie#top" title="User talk:MrOllie">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-MrOllie-20230215135100-Kushdeep12-20230215134600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:51, 15 February 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-MrOllie-20230215135100-Kushdeep12-20230215134600"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-MrOllie-20230215135100-Kushdeep12-20230215134600"></span></dd></dl> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Kushdeep12-20230215140100-Removal_of_Pages"></span>You didn't understand. I wanted to say. The information's sources are not trustworthy. So I deleted it. Just look at the sources. These sources are just from some journals or just someone's explanation. And also the definition is not clear enough. Can I add the template "unreliable source " or "better source needed " <small class="autosigned">— Preceding <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Signatures" title="Wikipedia:Signatures">unsigned</a> comment added by <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Kushdeep12&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Kushdeep12 (page does not exist)">Kushdeep12</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Kushdeep12#top" title="User talk:Kushdeep12">talk</a> • <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Kushdeep12" title="Special:Contributions/Kushdeep12">contribs</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-Kushdeep12-20230215140100-Removal_of_Pages" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:01, 15 February 2023 (UTC)</a></small><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Kushdeep12-20230215140100-Removal_of_Pages"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Kushdeep12-20230215140100-Removal_of_Pages"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-MrOllie-20230215140300-Kushdeep12-20230215140100"></span>I understand you, I just disagree. The source is fine and it should not be deleted. Do not add any templates. On Wikipedia, peer-reviewed journals are considered the best possible sources. <a href="/wiki/User:MrOllie" class="mw-redirect" title="User:MrOllie">MrOllie</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie#top" title="User talk:MrOllie">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-MrOllie-20230215140300-Kushdeep12-20230215140100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:03, 15 February 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-MrOllie-20230215140300-Kushdeep12-20230215140100"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-MrOllie-20230215140300-Kushdeep12-20230215140100"></span></dd></dl> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-MrOllie-20230215141500-Removal_of_Pages"></span>Again I say Sir please read the sources. one person "Mr. Mohanty" just gave his own opinion, why is this source trustworthy?Any journal isacceptable? He said east sea or Bay of Bengal was called Kalinga Sagar. But he didn't mention the total portion or any geographical map And Mr. Nitin Agarwal's opinion is not clear. <small class="autosigned">— Preceding <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Signatures" title="Wikipedia:Signatures">unsigned</a> comment added by <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Kushdeep12&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Kushdeep12 (page does not exist)">Kushdeep12</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Kushdeep12#top" title="User talk:Kushdeep12">talk</a> • <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Kushdeep12" title="Special:Contributions/Kushdeep12">contribs</a>) </small> </p> <dl><dd>If you have questions about sourcing on Wikipedia, read <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:RS" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:RS">WP:RS</a> thoroughly and ask any followup questions at <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:TEAHOUSE" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:TEAHOUSE">WP:TEAHOUSE</a>. We're not going to remove the source in question. - <a href="/wiki/User:MrOllie" class="mw-redirect" title="User:MrOllie">MrOllie</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie#top" title="User talk:MrOllie">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-MrOllie-20230215141500-Removal_of_Pages" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:15, 15 February 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-MrOllie-20230215141500-Removal_of_Pages"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-MrOllie-20230215141500-Removal_of_Pages"></span></dd></dl> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-MrOllie-20230215142900-Removal_of_Pages"></span>Don't understand what did you mean, however I am a new user. But I understood Wikipedia can accept anyone's opinion. It don't judge is it acceptable or not. I gave enough definitions, what is the reason. I just wanted to help , so that people can get correct information. I just said, can I give a template? But it doesn't allow.Can you tell me Why did you remove my edits? Because I am not admi? <small class="autosigned">— Preceding <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Signatures" title="Wikipedia:Signatures">unsigned</a> comment added by <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Kushdeep12&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Kushdeep12 (page does not exist)">Kushdeep12</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Kushdeep12#top" title="User talk:Kushdeep12">talk</a> • <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Kushdeep12" title="Special:Contributions/Kushdeep12">contribs</a>) </small> </p> <dl><dd>Stop adding a new section every time you post here. Do not add a template. Read and understand Wikipedia's sourcing policy at <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:RS" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:RS">WP:RS</a>, you clearly have not done that. I reverted your edit because it was incorrect, and made the article worse. - <a href="/wiki/User:MrOllie" class="mw-redirect" title="User:MrOllie">MrOllie</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie#top" title="User talk:MrOllie">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-MrOllie-20230215142900-Removal_of_Pages" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:29, 15 February 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-MrOllie-20230215142900-Removal_of_Pages"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-MrOllie-20230215142900-Removal_of_Pages"></span></dd></dl> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Kushdeep12-20230215160000-Removal_of_Pages"></span>Sorry to disturb you. My last question to you, You said the source is perfectly fine. I don't know how did you know, however I noticed the template "better source needed" is already used in this article. <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Kushdeep12&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Kushdeep12 (page does not exist)">Kushdeep12</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Kushdeep12" title="User talk:Kushdeep12">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-Kushdeep12-20230215160000-Removal_of_Pages" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:00, 15 February 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Kushdeep12-20230215160000-Removal_of_Pages"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Kushdeep12-20230215160000-Removal_of_Pages"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-MrOllie-20230215161200-Kushdeep12-20230215160000"></span>That a template is used in one place does not mean it is appropriate to use it incorrectly somewhere else. Since you cannot follow simple instructions on proper use of this talk page, do not post here again. - <a href="/wiki/User:MrOllie" class="mw-redirect" title="User:MrOllie">MrOllie</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie#top" title="User talk:MrOllie">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-MrOllie-20230215161200-Kushdeep12-20230215160000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:12, 15 February 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-MrOllie-20230215161200-Kushdeep12-20230215160000"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-MrOllie-20230215161200-Kushdeep12-20230215160000"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Dvorak_citespam" data-mw-thread-id="h-Dvorak_citespam-20230220153300"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Dvorak_citespam-20230220153300"></span>Dvorak citespam<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Dvorak_citespam-20230220153300"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-POLNET55-20230220153300-Dvorak_citespam"></span>Stop to show your power. You are in the community and be normal. It looks very stupid when somebody got power and starts to use it in Wikipedia. I already 10 years here and know such kind of individuals who are not able to be strong in the real world and transfer it to the virtual. It is already known that next your step will be to block me <a href="/w/index.php?title=POLNET55&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="POLNET55 (page does not exist)">POLNET55</a> <small class="autosigned">— Preceding <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Signatures" title="Wikipedia:Signatures">unsigned</a> comment added by <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:POLNET55&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:POLNET55 (page does not exist)">POLNET55</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:POLNET55#top" title="User talk:POLNET55">talk</a> • <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/POLNET55" title="Special:Contributions/POLNET55">contribs</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-POLNET55-20230220153300-Dvorak_citespam" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:33, 20 February 2023 (UTC)</a></small><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-POLNET55-20230220153300-Dvorak_citespam"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-POLNET55-20230220153300-Dvorak_citespam"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-POLNET55-20230220154100-POLNET55-20230220153300"></span>Wikipedia is not a venue for you to self-promote. Stop spamming us with citations to your own work. - <a href="/wiki/User:MrOllie" class="mw-redirect" title="User:MrOllie">MrOllie</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie#top" title="User talk:MrOllie">talk</a>)</dd></dl> <p>You are not the Global Governance that to decide what is the best to Wikipedia. The community gave to you some powers and you must to work according community wishes. You are not able decide on the content of the article as you are not competent in all spheres. These articles improve the content of the Wikipedia and important for the readers <a href="/w/index.php?title=POLNET55&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="POLNET55 (page does not exist)">POLNET55</a>. </p> <ol><li>stopMrOllielawlessness <small class="autosigned">— Preceding <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Signatures" title="Wikipedia:Signatures">unsigned</a> comment added by <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:POLNET55&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:POLNET55 (page does not exist)">POLNET55</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:POLNET55#top" title="User talk:POLNET55">talk</a> • <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/POLNET55" title="Special:Contributions/POLNET55">contribs</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-POLNET55-20230220154100-POLNET55-20230220153300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:41, 20 February 2023 (UTC)</a><span data-mw-comment-end="c-POLNET55-20230220154100-POLNET55-20230220153300"></span></small><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-POLNET55-20230220154100-POLNET55-20230220153300"></span></li></ol> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-MrOllie-20230220154300-POLNET55-20230220153300"></span>You've been abusing Wikipedia to promote yourself for a long time. It is time to stop now. Seeing your name on Wikipedia is not 'important for the readers', it is only important for you. - <a href="/wiki/User:MrOllie" class="mw-redirect" title="User:MrOllie">MrOllie</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie#top" title="User talk:MrOllie">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-MrOllie-20230220154300-POLNET55-20230220153300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:43, 20 February 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-MrOllie-20230220154300-POLNET55-20230220153300"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-MrOllie-20230220154300-POLNET55-20230220153300"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-POLNET55-20230220160600-MrOllie-20230220154300"></span>You are creating the rules which make Wikipedia out of it mission. Do you know all Wikipedia rules? I'm not sure. So stop dictate what is not you competence, just review that persons who make changes make it correctly!!! <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:POLNET55&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:POLNET55 (page does not exist)">POLNET55</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:POLNET55" title="User talk:POLNET55">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-POLNET55-20230220160600-MrOllie-20230220154300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:06, 20 February 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-POLNET55-20230220160600-MrOllie-20230220154300"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-POLNET55-20230220160600-MrOllie-20230220154300"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-MrOllie-20230220161100-POLNET55-20230220160600"></span>Spamming yourself all over Wikipedia is not <style data-mw-deduplicate="TemplateStyles:r1248585704">@media screen{html.skin-theme-clientpref-night .mw-parser-output .inline-quote-talk{color:#00B785}}@media screen and (prefers-color-scheme:dark){html.skin-theme-clientpref-os .mw-parser-output .inline-quote-talk{color:#00B785}}.mw-parser-output .inline-quote-talk{font-family:Georgia,"DejaVu Serif",serif;color:#008560;quotes:none}.mw-parser-output .inline-quote-talk-italic{font-family:inherit;font-style:italic}.mw-parser-output .inline-quote-talk-marks{quotes:"\"""\""}</style><q class="inline-quote-talk">make it correctly!!!</q>. Even setting that aside, your changes are <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:UNDUE" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:UNDUE">WP:UNDUE</a>, poorly written, and unhelpful, usually all three at the same time. But your <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:COI" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:COI">conflict of interest</a> prevents you from evaluating this objectively, and now that you have been called on it you respond with the <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:NPA" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:NPA">personal attacks</a> we see on display here. Insulting me is not going to help your cause. <a href="/wiki/User:MrOllie" class="mw-redirect" title="User:MrOllie">MrOllie</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie#top" title="User talk:MrOllie">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-MrOllie-20230220161100-POLNET55-20230220160600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:11, 20 February 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-MrOllie-20230220161100-POLNET55-20230220160600"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-MrOllie-20230220161100-POLNET55-20230220160600"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Incorporate_external_link." data-mw-thread-id="h-Incorporate_external_link.-20230221204400"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Incorporate_external_link.-20230221204400"></span>Incorporate external link.<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Incorporate_external_link.-20230221204400"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-2402:3A80:1960:24CE:CCB7:F866:BBAC:4C2-20230221204400-Incorporate_external_link."></span>I don't want to add external link but i just add a proof of that edit on site where a whole article is written. So i just add this article link to my recent edit. I don't know how to add my article where I write whole article on recent edit topics. Can you suggest how can I do it. <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/2402:3A80:1960:24CE:CCB7:F866:BBAC:4C2" title="Special:Contributions/2402:3A80:1960:24CE:CCB7:F866:BBAC:4C2">2402:3A80:1960:24CE:CCB7:F866:BBAC:4C2</a> (<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:2402:3A80:1960:24CE:CCB7:F866:BBAC:4C2&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:2402:3A80:1960:24CE:CCB7:F866:BBAC:4C2 (page does not exist)">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-2402:3A80:1960:24CE:CCB7:F866:BBAC:4C2-20230221204400-Incorporate_external_link." class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:44, 21 February 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-2402:3A80:1960:24CE:CCB7:F866:BBAC:4C2-20230221204400-Incorporate_external_link."></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-2402:3A80:1960:24CE:CCB7:F866:BBAC:4C2-20230221204400-Incorporate_external_link."></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-MrOllie-20230221204600-2402:3A80:1960:24CE:CCB7:F866:BBAC:4C2-20230221204400"></span>I have no idea who you are or what link you're talking about. <a href="/wiki/User:MrOllie" class="mw-redirect" title="User:MrOllie">MrOllie</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie#top" title="User talk:MrOllie">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-MrOllie-20230221204600-2402:3A80:1960:24CE:CCB7:F866:BBAC:4C2-20230221204400" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:46, 21 February 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-MrOllie-20230221204600-2402:3A80:1960:24CE:CCB7:F866:BBAC:4C2-20230221204400"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-MrOllie-20230221204600-2402:3A80:1960:24CE:CCB7:F866:BBAC:4C2-20230221204400"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Removal_of_info._related_to_MaaS" data-mw-thread-id="h-Removal_of_info._related_to_MaaS-20230222185200"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Removal_of_info._related_to_MaaS-20230222185200"></span>Removal of info. related to MaaS<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Removal_of_info._related_to_MaaS-20230222185200"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-TsBhA-20230222185200-Removal_of_info._related_to_MaaS"></span>Hello MrOllie, </p><p>I noticed that you have removed edits on a page twice now related to MaaS. </p><p>The info. that was removed provides mobility applications which offer MaaS. </p><p>This info. is relevant for the topic & existed before I edited it. </p><p>Could you please clarify why you are continuing to remove it? Thanks! <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:TsBhA&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:TsBhA (page does not exist)">TsBhA</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:TsBhA" title="User talk:TsBhA">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-TsBhA-20230222185200-Removal_of_info._related_to_MaaS" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:52, 22 February 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-TsBhA-20230222185200-Removal_of_info._related_to_MaaS"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-TsBhA-20230222185200-Removal_of_info._related_to_MaaS"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-MrOllie-20230222185600-TsBhA-20230222185200"></span>Wikipedia isn't a place to promote companies or make indiscriminate lists of companies. See <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:NOT" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:NOT">WP:NOT</a>. 'Relevant' is not sufficient for inclusion, Wikipedia is not an indiscriminate collection of information. Plumbing companies would be 'relevant' to our article on plumbing, but we don't make lists of plumbers. <a href="/wiki/User:MrOllie" class="mw-redirect" title="User:MrOllie">MrOllie</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie#top" title="User talk:MrOllie">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-MrOllie-20230222185600-TsBhA-20230222185200" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:56, 22 February 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-MrOllie-20230222185600-TsBhA-20230222185200"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-MrOllie-20230222185600-TsBhA-20230222185200"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Editing_Redeemer_Page" data-mw-thread-id="h-Editing_Redeemer_Page-20230222125500"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Editing_Redeemer_Page-20230222125500"></span>Editing Redeemer Page<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Editing_Redeemer_Page-20230222125500"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-EpicEfeathers-20230222125500-Editing_Redeemer_Page"></span>Please stop reverting or changing the <a href="/w/index.php?title=Redeemer_Christian_High_School&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Redeemer Christian High School (page does not exist)">Redeemer Christian High School</a> wikipedia page. These edits are wrong/incorrect, and could be considered <a href="/wiki/Vandalism_on_Wikipedia" title="Vandalism on Wikipedia">Vandalism</a>. </p><p>Thank you, <a href="/wiki/User:EpicEfeathers" title="User:EpicEfeathers">EpicEfeathers</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:EpicEfeathers" title="User talk:EpicEfeathers">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-EpicEfeathers-20230222125500-Editing_Redeemer_Page" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:55, 22 February 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-EpicEfeathers-20230222125500-Editing_Redeemer_Page"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-EpicEfeathers-20230222125500-Editing_Redeemer_Page"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-MrOllie-20230222125700-EpicEfeathers-20230222125500"></span>You're the one making changes without sourcing, which is required per <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:V" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:V">WP:V</a>. <a href="/wiki/User:MrOllie" class="mw-redirect" title="User:MrOllie">MrOllie</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie#top" title="User talk:MrOllie">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-MrOllie-20230222125700-EpicEfeathers-20230222125500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:57, 22 February 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-MrOllie-20230222125700-EpicEfeathers-20230222125500"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-MrOllie-20230222125700-EpicEfeathers-20230222125500"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-EpicEfeathers-20230222153100-MrOllie-20230222125700"></span>Thank you for this, the changes now have a source. Hopefully this issue has been resolved. <a href="/wiki/User:EpicEfeathers" title="User:EpicEfeathers">EpicEfeathers</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:EpicEfeathers" title="User talk:EpicEfeathers">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-EpicEfeathers-20230222153100-MrOllie-20230222125700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:31, 22 February 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-EpicEfeathers-20230222153100-MrOllie-20230222125700"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-EpicEfeathers-20230222153100-MrOllie-20230222125700"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-MrOllie-20230222153400-EpicEfeathers-20230222153100"></span>The article doesn't meet Wikipedia's <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:GNG" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:GNG">inclusion criteria</a> anyway, so I expect it will soon be deleted. <a href="/wiki/User:MrOllie" class="mw-redirect" title="User:MrOllie">MrOllie</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie#top" title="User talk:MrOllie">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-MrOllie-20230222153400-EpicEfeathers-20230222153100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:34, 22 February 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-MrOllie-20230222153400-EpicEfeathers-20230222153100"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-MrOllie-20230222153400-EpicEfeathers-20230222153100"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-EpicEfeathers-20230222210000-MrOllie-20230222153400"></span>It will most likely not be soon deleted, as it does not qualify for any of wikipedia's [[<a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Deletion_policy" title="Wikipedia:Deletion policy">Wikipedia:Deletion policy</a>]] points, and has been around for 10 years. Anyways, signing out, <a href="/wiki/User:EpicEfeathers" title="User:EpicEfeathers">EpicEfeathers</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:EpicEfeathers" title="User talk:EpicEfeathers">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-EpicEfeathers-20230222210000-MrOllie-20230222153400" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:00, 22 February 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-EpicEfeathers-20230222210000-MrOllie-20230222153400"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-EpicEfeathers-20230222210000-MrOllie-20230222153400"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-MrOllie-20230222211300-EpicEfeathers-20230222210000"></span>It has zero independent sources, and you will find that they are required. That no one has noticed a problem for a while (even a long while) does not mean that it is not a problem. <a href="/wiki/User:MrOllie" class="mw-redirect" title="User:MrOllie">MrOllie</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie#top" title="User talk:MrOllie">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-MrOllie-20230222211300-EpicEfeathers-20230222210000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:13, 22 February 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-MrOllie-20230222211300-EpicEfeathers-20230222210000"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-MrOllie-20230222211300-EpicEfeathers-20230222210000"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Your_message_to_me_about_removals" data-mw-thread-id="h-Your_message_to_me_about_removals-20230222160600"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Your_message_to_me_about_removals-20230222160600"></span>Your message to me about removals<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Your_message_to_me_about_removals-20230222160600"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Hageteha-20230222160600-Your_message_to_me_about_removals"></span>Hello, <a href="/wiki/User:MrOllie" class="mw-redirect" title="User:MrOllie">MrOllie</a>. Thanks for your notice. As I do not know exactely what you have removed, I am asking you to let me know. All content I am adding / changing in Wikipedia usually has references or links to other encyclopedically relevant Wiki pages. Sometimes I may need extra time to enter those references, as I do not spend my entire time with Wikipedia ... Cheers and best regards - <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Hageteha&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Hageteha (page does not exist)">Hageteha</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Hageteha" title="User talk:Hageteha">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-Hageteha-20230222160600-Your_message_to_me_about_removals" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:06, 22 February 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Hageteha-20230222160600-Your_message_to_me_about_removals"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Hageteha-20230222160600-Your_message_to_me_about_removals"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-MrOllie-20230222160800-Hageteha-20230222160600"></span>Everything you add needs a reliable, external citation. See <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:V" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:V">WP:V</a> and <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:RS" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:RS">WP:RS</a>. If you don't have time to add the references, you should not add the content until you do. <a href="/wiki/User:MrOllie" class="mw-redirect" title="User:MrOllie">MrOllie</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie#top" title="User talk:MrOllie">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-MrOllie-20230222160800-Hageteha-20230222160600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:08, 22 February 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-MrOllie-20230222160800-Hageteha-20230222160600"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-MrOllie-20230222160800-Hageteha-20230222160600"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Hageteha-20230222203800-MrOllie-20230222160800"></span>OK, here I am taking my time. Please let me know what of the content in your eyes was un-sourced opinion. If the notion of "Architecture" is considered by you to be unsourced, then please note that the Wiki-Link to the <a href="/wiki/Arcadia_(engineering)" title="Arcadia (engineering)">Arcadia (engineering)</a> method is a valid reference. If you need another external reference to "Arcadia", here it is: <i>Model-based System and Architecture Engineering with the Arcadia Method, Jean-Luc Voirin, 388 pages, ISTE Press - Elsevier 2017, ISBN: 9781785481697</i>. If you see further references required, please let me know exactely for which of the issues you want to see those references.</dd> <dd>Thanks in advance and with best regards <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Hageteha&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Hageteha (page does not exist)">Hageteha</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Hageteha" title="User talk:Hageteha">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-Hageteha-20230222203800-MrOllie-20230222160800" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:38, 22 February 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Hageteha-20230222203800-MrOllie-20230222160800"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Hageteha-20230222203800-MrOllie-20230222160800"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-MrOllie-20230222211100-Hageteha-20230222203800"></span>You didn't cite any sources, so all of it was obviously unsourced. Wikipedia cannot be used as a citation for itself. Adding Wikilinks is not adding citations. If you have questions about sourcing or how Wikipedia is written, I suggest you visit <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:TEAHOUSE" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:TEAHOUSE">WP:TEAHOUSE</a>. <a href="/wiki/User:MrOllie" class="mw-redirect" title="User:MrOllie">MrOllie</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie#top" title="User talk:MrOllie">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-MrOllie-20230222211100-Hageteha-20230222203800" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:11, 22 February 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-MrOllie-20230222211100-Hageteha-20230222203800"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-MrOllie-20230222211100-Hageteha-20230222203800"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Hageteha-20230223121000-MrOllie-20230222211100"></span>I am very sorry to bother your comfort zone again. I want to add among others the external reference I have cited above which is definitely NOT a Wikipedia Reference. But due to your removal I am not allowed to add any further references to my previous additions. If that is what you want, than that is fine to me and I will discontinue my efforts in this case while leaving the readers without such encyclopedically relevant information. I do not want to waste my precious time on fruitless discussions!!! <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Hageteha&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Hageteha (page does not exist)">Hageteha</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Hageteha" title="User talk:Hageteha">talk</a>) 12:10, 23 February 2023 (UTC) <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Hageteha&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Hageteha (page does not exist)">Hageteha</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Hageteha" title="User talk:Hageteha">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-Hageteha-20230223121000-MrOllie-20230222211100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:40, 23 February 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Hageteha-20230223121000-MrOllie-20230222211100"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Hageteha-20230223121000-MrOllie-20230222211100"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Appraisal_spam" data-mw-thread-id="h-Appraisal_spam-20230224184800"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Appraisal_spam-20230224184800"></span>Appraisal spam<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Appraisal_spam-20230224184800"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Balkin90R-20230224184800-Appraisal_spam"></span>Listing a citation of a source of information is not promotion, I beg your parson? I also have no affiliation with any cited sources, I think your out of line <small class="autosigned">— Preceding <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Signatures" title="Wikipedia:Signatures">unsigned</a> comment added by <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Balkin90R&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Balkin90R (page does not exist)">Balkin90R</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Balkin90R#top" title="User talk:Balkin90R">talk</a> • <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Balkin90R" title="Special:Contributions/Balkin90R">contribs</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-Balkin90R-20230224184800-Appraisal_spam" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:48, 24 February 2023 (UTC)</a></small><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Balkin90R-20230224184800-Appraisal_spam"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Balkin90R-20230224184800-Appraisal_spam"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-MrOllie-20230224185000-Balkin90R-20230224184800"></span>Adding links to commercial marketing materials absolutely is promotion. If you aren't affiliated with them simply stop adding the links. - <a href="/wiki/User:MrOllie" class="mw-redirect" title="User:MrOllie">MrOllie</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie#top" title="User talk:MrOllie">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-MrOllie-20230224185000-Balkin90R-20230224184800" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:50, 24 February 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-MrOllie-20230224185000-Balkin90R-20230224184800"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-MrOllie-20230224185000-Balkin90R-20230224184800"></span></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Balkin90R-20230224185600-Balkin90R-20230224184800"></span>Then you can write it and find sources you like? <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Balkin90R&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Balkin90R (page does not exist)">Balkin90R</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Balkin90R" title="User talk:Balkin90R">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-Balkin90R-20230224185600-Balkin90R-20230224184800" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:56, 24 February 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Balkin90R-20230224185600-Balkin90R-20230224184800"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Balkin90R-20230224185600-Balkin90R-20230224184800"></span></dd></dl> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Balkin90R-20230224185700-Appraisal_spam"></span>apparently all the citations here are marketing materials...I didnt know that <small class="autosigned">— Preceding <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Signatures" title="Wikipedia:Signatures">unsigned</a> comment added by <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Balkin90R&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Balkin90R (page does not exist)">Balkin90R</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Balkin90R#top" title="User talk:Balkin90R">talk</a> • <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Balkin90R" title="Special:Contributions/Balkin90R">contribs</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-Balkin90R-20230224185700-Appraisal_spam" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:57, 24 February 2023 (UTC)</a></small><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Balkin90R-20230224185700-Appraisal_spam"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Balkin90R-20230224185700-Appraisal_spam"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Epileptic_Animals_page" data-mw-thread-id="h-Epileptic_Animals_page-20230224225200"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Epileptic_Animals_page-20230224225200"></span>Epileptic Animals page<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Epileptic_Animals_page-20230224225200"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Minitalia-20230224225200-Epileptic_Animals_page"></span>I'm unsure as to why you felt the need to revert all of my changes to an older, less detailed version of this page when I did source my edits. Please explain. <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Minitalia&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Minitalia (page does not exist)">Minitalia</a> (<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Minitalia&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:Minitalia (page does not exist)">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-Minitalia-20230224225200-Epileptic_Animals_page" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:52, 24 February 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Minitalia-20230224225200-Epileptic_Animals_page"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Minitalia-20230224225200-Epileptic_Animals_page"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-MrOllie-20230224232800-Minitalia-20230224225200"></span>Webmd isn't a reliable source for medical information. <a href="/wiki/User:MrOllie" class="mw-redirect" title="User:MrOllie">MrOllie</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie#top" title="User talk:MrOllie">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-MrOllie-20230224232800-Minitalia-20230224225200" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:28, 24 February 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-MrOllie-20230224232800-Minitalia-20230224225200"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-MrOllie-20230224232800-Minitalia-20230224225200"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Removal_of_referenced_stats_from_Solana_intro" data-mw-thread-id="h-Removal_of_referenced_stats_from_Solana_intro-20230225002000"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Removal_of_referenced_stats_from_Solana_intro-20230225002000"></span>Removal of referenced stats from Solana intro<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Removal_of_referenced_stats_from_Solana_intro-20230225002000"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Mikemaccana-20230225002000-Removal_of_referenced_stats_from_Solana_intro"></span>Blockchains are developer platforms - it is not 'strange trivia' to mention the popularity of any developer platform, particularly if this is notable information. Also please refrain from deleting referenced material - even if you didn't think the popularity was relevant, it's better to move this information than delete it. Thanks for reading. <small class="autosigned">— Preceding <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Signatures" title="Wikipedia:Signatures">unsigned</a> comment added by <a href="/wiki/User:Mikemaccana" title="User:Mikemaccana">Mikemaccana</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Mikemaccana#top" title="User talk:Mikemaccana">talk</a> • <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Mikemaccana" title="Special:Contributions/Mikemaccana">contribs</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-Mikemaccana-20230225002000-Removal_of_referenced_stats_from_Solana_intro" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:20, 25 February 2023 (UTC)</a></small><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Mikemaccana-20230225002000-Removal_of_referenced_stats_from_Solana_intro"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Mikemaccana-20230225002000-Removal_of_referenced_stats_from_Solana_intro"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-MrOllie-20230225002300-Mikemaccana-20230225002000"></span>Keep it on the article's talk page, please. <a href="/wiki/User:MrOllie" class="mw-redirect" title="User:MrOllie">MrOllie</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie#top" title="User talk:MrOllie">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-MrOllie-20230225002300-Mikemaccana-20230225002000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:23, 25 February 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-MrOllie-20230225002300-Mikemaccana-20230225002000"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-MrOllie-20230225002300-Mikemaccana-20230225002000"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Strange_threats_and_false_accusations." data-mw-thread-id="h-Strange_threats_and_false_accusations.-20230227200800"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Strange_threats_and_false_accusations.-20230227200800"></span>Strange threats and false accusations.<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Strange_threats_and_false_accusations.-20230227200800"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-SpruceyWind-20230227200800-Strange_threats_and_false_accusations."></span>Refain from accusing users of adding original research, when all they have done is add a source and clarify that the other sources provided do not reflect the claims made. <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:SpruceyWind&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:SpruceyWind (page does not exist)">SpruceyWind</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:SpruceyWind" title="User talk:SpruceyWind">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-SpruceyWind-20230227200800-Strange_threats_and_false_accusations." class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:08, 27 February 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-SpruceyWind-20230227200800-Strange_threats_and_false_accusations."></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-SpruceyWind-20230227200800-Strange_threats_and_false_accusations."></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-MrOllie-20230227201100-SpruceyWind-20230227200800"></span>You are drawing a distinction between eastern and western astrology where none exists - that is the original research. The sources do not draw a distinction so neither can Wikipedia's articles. Please direct any followup to the talk page of the article in question. <a href="/wiki/User:MrOllie" class="mw-redirect" title="User:MrOllie">MrOllie</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie#top" title="User talk:MrOllie">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-MrOllie-20230227201100-SpruceyWind-20230227200800" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:11, 27 February 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-MrOllie-20230227201100-SpruceyWind-20230227200800"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-MrOllie-20230227201100-SpruceyWind-20230227200800"></span></dd></dl> <p><br/><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-SpruceyWind-20230227201900-Strange_threats_and_false_accusations."></span> If you have a problem with information, solve it via accurately sourced and accurately used information, not by making threats against other users. If you are not able to do that, you may always choose to be silent. <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:SpruceyWind&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:SpruceyWind (page does not exist)">SpruceyWind</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:SpruceyWind" title="User talk:SpruceyWind">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-SpruceyWind-20230227201900-Strange_threats_and_false_accusations." class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:19, 27 February 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-SpruceyWind-20230227201900-Strange_threats_and_false_accusations."></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-SpruceyWind-20230227201900-Strange_threats_and_false_accusations."></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-MrOllie-20230227202300-SpruceyWind-20230227201900"></span>You will find that most people on Wikipedia will have a problem when you add blatantly incorrect, unsourced information to articles, which is what you are doing. If you continue like this I fully expect you will find yourself blocked from editing. <a href="/wiki/User:MrOllie" class="mw-redirect" title="User:MrOllie">MrOllie</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie#top" title="User talk:MrOllie">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-MrOllie-20230227202300-SpruceyWind-20230227201900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:23, 27 February 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-MrOllie-20230227202300-SpruceyWind-20230227201900"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-MrOllie-20230227202300-SpruceyWind-20230227201900"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Edward_Winter_(chess_historian)" data-mw-thread-id="h-Edward_Winter_(chess_historian)-20230301163100"><span id="Edward_Winter_.28chess_historian.29"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Edward_Winter_(chess_historian)-20230301163100"></span>Edward Winter (chess historian)<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Edward_Winter_(chess_historian)-20230301163100"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-CapnZapp-20230301163100-Edward_Winter_(chess_historian)"></span>You are welcome to reapply the COI tag <a href="https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/iff" class="extiw" title="wikt:iff">iff</a> you are able to explain the specific problem that made you apply the tag. In other words, to apply the COI tag you need to start a talk discussion. Cheers <a href="/wiki/User:CapnZapp" class="mw-redirect" title="User:CapnZapp">CapnZapp</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:CapnZapp" title="User talk:CapnZapp">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-CapnZapp-20230301163100-Edward_Winter_(chess_historian)" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:31, 1 March 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-CapnZapp-20230301163100-Edward_Winter_(chess_historian)"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-CapnZapp-20230301163100-Edward_Winter_(chess_historian)"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-MrOllie-20230301163900-CapnZapp-20230301163100"></span>It's a promotional article that was written by the subject (and who has removed all criticism of himself), but OK <a href="/wiki/User:MrOllie" class="mw-redirect" title="User:MrOllie">MrOllie</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie#top" title="User talk:MrOllie">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-MrOllie-20230301163900-CapnZapp-20230301163100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:39, 1 March 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-MrOllie-20230301163900-CapnZapp-20230301163100"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-MrOllie-20230301163900-CapnZapp-20230301163100"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-CapnZapp-20230301171200-MrOllie-20230301163900"></span>No, not OK. If you can substantiate this claim, I welcome you to reapply the tag. I removed the tag because there was no talk discussion and no ongoing efforts to fix the problem. You appear to be an experienced editor - I shouldn't have to point you to our relevant procedure, but in case you are unaware, here goes anyway: <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Conflict_of_interest#How_to_handle_conflicts_of_interest" title="Wikipedia:Conflict of interest">Wikipedia:Conflict_of_interest#How_to_handle_conflicts_of_interest</a>, taking special care to remind you of the subsequent section to <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Conflict_of_interest#Avoid_outing" title="Wikipedia:Conflict of interest">avoid outing</a>.<div class="paragraphbreak" style="margin-top:0.5em"></div>Whichever approach you take is up to you. All I can do is to state that the previous approach you tried - drive-by tagging an article with no explanation - isn't particularly constructive. Best of luck, <a href="/wiki/User:CapnZapp" class="mw-redirect" title="User:CapnZapp">CapnZapp</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:CapnZapp" title="User talk:CapnZapp">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-CapnZapp-20230301171200-MrOllie-20230301163900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:12, 1 March 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-CapnZapp-20230301171200-MrOllie-20230301163900"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-CapnZapp-20230301171200-MrOllie-20230301163900"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-CapnZapp-20230302054200-CapnZapp-20230301171200"></span>Once more, please don't give up just because our COI policy is a bit involved. Assuming you can substantiate your claims, your input could be very worthwhile in improving a biographical article that I see could fly under the radar as it were quite easily. Could you - on the article talk - point to specific edits you believe should be scrutinized, editing patterns by various editors? (This is my final post on your talk; you are certainly free to simply step back) <a href="/wiki/User:CapnZapp" class="mw-redirect" title="User:CapnZapp">CapnZapp</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:CapnZapp" title="User talk:CapnZapp">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-CapnZapp-20230302054200-CapnZapp-20230301171200" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">05:42, 2 March 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-CapnZapp-20230302054200-CapnZapp-20230301171200"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-CapnZapp-20230302054200-CapnZapp-20230301171200"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-MrOllie-20230302145500-CapnZapp-20230302054200"></span>I don't find working on chess articles to be rewarding. I have removed the article from my watchlist. As far as I'm concerned, you now own the issue - you can do (or not do) what ever you feel is appropriate with it, just leave me out of it. <a href="/wiki/User:MrOllie" class="mw-redirect" title="User:MrOllie">MrOllie</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie#top" title="User talk:MrOllie">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-MrOllie-20230302145500-CapnZapp-20230302054200" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:55, 2 March 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-MrOllie-20230302145500-CapnZapp-20230302054200"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-MrOllie-20230302145500-CapnZapp-20230302054200"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="euro" data-mw-thread-id="h-euro-20230305111600"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-euro-20230305111600"></span>euro<span data-mw-comment-end="h-euro-20230305111600"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-John_Maynard_Friedman-20230305111600-euro"></span>Thank you for that revert. Would you keep an eye on this new editor, please? I don't know if <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Competence_is_required" title="Wikipedia:Competence is required">WP:Competence is required</a> provides a get-out clause for <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:3RR" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:3RR">wp:3RR</a> but either way I shouldn't be the only one keeping tabs on what they do. <a href="/wiki/User:John_Maynard_Friedman" class="mw-redirect" title="User:John Maynard Friedman">𝕁𝕄𝔽</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:John_Maynard_Friedman" class="mw-redirect" title="User talk:John Maynard Friedman">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-John_Maynard_Friedman-20230305111600-euro" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:16, 5 March 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-John_Maynard_Friedman-20230305111600-euro"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-John_Maynard_Friedman-20230305111600-euro"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="About_those_external_links" data-mw-thread-id="h-About_those_external_links-20230304221700"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-About_those_external_links-20230304221700"></span>About those external links<span data-mw-comment-end="h-About_those_external_links-20230304221700"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Sundropie-20230304221700-About_those_external_links"></span>What is wrong with those links? They aren't hurting anything. <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Sundropie&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Sundropie (page does not exist)">Sundropie</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Sundropie" title="User talk:Sundropie">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-Sundropie-20230304221700-About_those_external_links" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:17, 4 March 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Sundropie-20230304221700-About_those_external_links"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Sundropie-20230304221700-About_those_external_links"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-MrOllie-20230304222200-Sundropie-20230304221700"></span>I already pointed you to the relevant guideline on your user talk page. You need to follow it. - <a href="/wiki/User:MrOllie" class="mw-redirect" title="User:MrOllie">MrOllie</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie#top" title="User talk:MrOllie">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-MrOllie-20230304222200-Sundropie-20230304221700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:22, 4 March 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-MrOllie-20230304222200-Sundropie-20230304221700"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-MrOllie-20230304222200-Sundropie-20230304221700"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Sundropie-20230305154700-MrOllie-20230304222200"></span>I already followed it and it says there is nothing wrong with the external links that I edited. <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Sundropie&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Sundropie (page does not exist)">Sundropie</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Sundropie" title="User talk:Sundropie">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-Sundropie-20230305154700-MrOllie-20230304222200" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:47, 5 March 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Sundropie-20230305154700-MrOllie-20230304222200"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Sundropie-20230305154700-MrOllie-20230304222200"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-MrOllie-20230305191800-Sundropie-20230305154700"></span>No. You are obviously violating the guideline, which specifically prohibits such links to fan sites and wikis. <a href="/wiki/User:MrOllie" class="mw-redirect" title="User:MrOllie">MrOllie</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie#top" title="User talk:MrOllie">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-MrOllie-20230305191800-Sundropie-20230305154700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:18, 5 March 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-MrOllie-20230305191800-Sundropie-20230305154700"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-MrOllie-20230305191800-Sundropie-20230305154700"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Apology_notice" data-mw-thread-id="h-Apology_notice-20230305193700"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Apology_notice-20230305193700"></span>Apology notice<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Apology_notice-20230305193700"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Sundropie-20230305193700-Apology_notice"></span>I'm so sorry for editing those external links like that. What I did was very wrong. I'm just new at this. Please forgive me. <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Sundropie&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Sundropie (page does not exist)">Sundropie</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Sundropie" title="User talk:Sundropie">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-Sundropie-20230305193700-Apology_notice" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:37, 5 March 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Sundropie-20230305193700-Apology_notice"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Sundropie-20230305193700-Apology_notice"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Emotion_edit-" data-mw-thread-id="h-Emotion_edit--20230305231000"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Emotion_edit--20230305231000"></span>Emotion edit-<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Emotion_edit--20230305231000"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-J_JMesserly-20230305231000-Emotion_edit-"></span>Do you have an objection to the style of sfns, or that the article was temporarily inconsistent. If the latter, I can edit the whole thing offline and publish in a single edit. <a href="/wiki/User:J_JMesserly" title="User:J JMesserly">J JMesserly</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:J_JMesserly" title="User talk:J JMesserly">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-J_JMesserly-20230305231000-Emotion_edit-" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:10, 5 March 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-J_JMesserly-20230305231000-Emotion_edit-"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-J_JMesserly-20230305231000-Emotion_edit-"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-J_JMesserly-20230305231500-J_JMesserly-20230305231000"></span>To see the benefits of the upgrade, I recently transitioned <a href="/wiki/Bird_vocalizations" class="mw-redirect" title="Bird vocalizations">Bird vocalizations</a>. Besides the removal of the inline <ref> clutter, and sorting of the sources, much work was done to correct and upgrade citations as part of this maintenance. <a href="/wiki/User:J_JMesserly" title="User:J JMesserly">J JMesserly</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:J_JMesserly" title="User talk:J JMesserly">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-J_JMesserly-20230305231500-J_JMesserly-20230305231000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:15, 5 March 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-J_JMesserly-20230305231500-J_JMesserly-20230305231000"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-J_JMesserly-20230305231500-J_JMesserly-20230305231000"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-MrOllie-20230305232700-J_JMesserly-20230305231500"></span>Per <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:CITEVAR" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:CITEVAR">WP:CITEVAR</a> you should not be switching or mixing citation styles. You should self revert your changes at Bird vocalizations and start the required discussion. <a href="/wiki/User:MrOllie" class="mw-redirect" title="User:MrOllie">MrOllie</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie#top" title="User talk:MrOllie">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-MrOllie-20230305232700-J_JMesserly-20230305231500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:27, 5 March 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-MrOllie-20230305232700-J_JMesserly-20230305231500"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-MrOllie-20230305232700-J_JMesserly-20230305231500"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-J_JMesserly-20230305233800-MrOllie-20230305232700"></span>Well, my understanding was the guidance was not to switch from styles such as from harv to sfn. From your reading, no one can employ either of these vastly superior sets of templates without consensus. Since you have an objection, I will not perform any improvements to the highly disorganized, erroneous and inconsistent inline refs the article. However, your version of the article states something false about Hume's publication date. <a href="/wiki/User:J_JMesserly" title="User:J JMesserly">J JMesserly</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:J_JMesserly" title="User talk:J JMesserly">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-J_JMesserly-20230305233800-MrOllie-20230305232700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:38, 5 March 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-J_JMesserly-20230305233800-MrOllie-20230305232700"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-J_JMesserly-20230305233800-MrOllie-20230305232700"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-J_JMesserly-20230306003800-J_JMesserly-20230305233800"></span>By extension, you seem to be thinking that without concensus, cite templates cannot be used for new references in an article that never used them, or sfn or harv templates cannot be employed for new references if they have formerly never been employed in an article. Am I understanding you correctly? <a href="/wiki/User:J_JMesserly" title="User:J JMesserly">J JMesserly</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:J_JMesserly" title="User talk:J JMesserly">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-J_JMesserly-20230306003800-J_JMesserly-20230305233800" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:38, 6 March 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-J_JMesserly-20230306003800-J_JMesserly-20230305233800"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-J_JMesserly-20230306003800-J_JMesserly-20230305233800"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-MrOllie-20230306005500-J_JMesserly-20230306003800"></span>Switching away from inline cites is absolutely covered (quote: <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1248585704"><q class="inline-quote-talk">changing where the references are defined, e.g., moving reference definitions in the reflist to the prose, or moving reference definitions from the prose into the reflist.</q>) and requires getting consensus in advance. And yes, using citation styles inconsistently is also specifically mentioned in that guideline - you should not be doing that either. There is no Wikipedia-wide consensus that any set of cite templates or style is 'vastly superior' - that is the whole point of the guideline. <a href="/wiki/User:MrOllie" class="mw-redirect" title="User:MrOllie">MrOllie</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie#top" title="User talk:MrOllie">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-MrOllie-20230306005500-J_JMesserly-20230306003800" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:55, 6 March 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-MrOllie-20230306005500-J_JMesserly-20230306003800"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-MrOllie-20230306005500-J_JMesserly-20230306003800"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-J_JMesserly-20230306023900-MrOllie-20230306005500"></span>I agree with your point about mass conversion, but for my initial addition of two citations using sfn, what is the objection? Why is the guidance that they needed to be converted to inline references (which by the way was done with disregard to the quality of the reference, stripping out the page numbers). Sfn has been used in this article since 20 September 2012. In addition there are large numbers of non templated references. There is no consistent style being used so there is no guidance that says no one can use non inline references as have been used in the past. Your quote from citevar does not apply. They were not moved. They were new. So if you have no objection, I will restore the sfns to de Waal and Damasio and place the reference in the Further reading section as was done for the other sfns in the article.<a href="/wiki/User:J_JMesserly" title="User:J JMesserly">J JMesserly</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:J_JMesserly" title="User talk:J JMesserly">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-J_JMesserly-20230306023900-MrOllie-20230306005500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">02:39, 6 March 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-J_JMesserly-20230306023900-MrOllie-20230306005500"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-J_JMesserly-20230306023900-MrOllie-20230306005500"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-MrOllie-20230306025300-J_JMesserly-20230306023900"></span>My objection is that the citation styles should be consistent, as the citation guidelines require. Please read and try to understand the relevant guideline. If someone improperly added a single sfn template, that is not an opening to continue improperly changing the cite style. Obviously, I continue to object. <a href="/wiki/User:MrOllie" class="mw-redirect" title="User:MrOllie">MrOllie</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie#top" title="User talk:MrOllie">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-MrOllie-20230306025300-J_JMesserly-20230306023900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">02:53, 6 March 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-MrOllie-20230306025300-J_JMesserly-20230306023900"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-MrOllie-20230306025300-J_JMesserly-20230306023900"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-J_JMesserly-20230306031600-MrOllie-20230306025300"></span>Your make an unsupported assertion that the citation style is now consistent. It is not. There is no regular use of cite templates versus plain text citations. There has been sfns in this article for 11 years. Please help me understand your assertion that there is a consistent citation style in use within this article. Until there is a consensus to ban sfns which have been in use in this article since 2012 your edit was in violation of the very guideline you are quoting from. Standing back from this, the impact of your actions is that false information has been restored to wikipedia. How is this making wikipedia better? <a href="/wiki/User:J_JMesserly" title="User:J JMesserly">J JMesserly</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:J_JMesserly" title="User talk:J JMesserly">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-J_JMesserly-20230306031600-MrOllie-20230306025300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">03:16, 6 March 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-J_JMesserly-20230306031600-MrOllie-20230306025300"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-J_JMesserly-20230306031600-MrOllie-20230306025300"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-MrOllie-20230306035900-J_JMesserly-20230306031600"></span>That all the citations are inline is a consistency all its own. Wikilawyering about the word 'consistent' because ~1.3% of the citations used an sfn template is not convincing. I don't see any false information, but if there is feel free to make that correction - using the inline citations that are the format used on that article. <a href="/wiki/User:MrOllie" class="mw-redirect" title="User:MrOllie">MrOllie</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie#top" title="User talk:MrOllie">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-MrOllie-20230306035900-J_JMesserly-20230306031600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">03:59, 6 March 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-MrOllie-20230306035900-J_JMesserly-20230306031600"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-MrOllie-20230306035900-J_JMesserly-20230306031600"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-J_JMesserly-20230306040300-MrOllie-20230306035900"></span>Pardon me. Not wikilawyering but Fact. Not all the citations are inline. Haven't been for 11 years. <a href="/wiki/User:J_JMesserly" title="User:J JMesserly">J JMesserly</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:J_JMesserly" title="User talk:J JMesserly">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-J_JMesserly-20230306040300-MrOllie-20230306035900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">04:03, 6 March 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-J_JMesserly-20230306040300-MrOllie-20230306035900"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-J_JMesserly-20230306040300-MrOllie-20230306035900"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-MrOllie-20230306040500-J_JMesserly-20230306040300"></span>This is like claiming that a single typo means an article doesn't use consistent spelling. <a href="/wiki/User:MrOllie" class="mw-redirect" title="User:MrOllie">MrOllie</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie#top" title="User talk:MrOllie">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-MrOllie-20230306040500-J_JMesserly-20230306040300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">04:05, 6 March 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-MrOllie-20230306040500-J_JMesserly-20230306040300"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-MrOllie-20230306040500-J_JMesserly-20230306040300"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-J_JMesserly-20230306040900-J_JMesserly-20230305231000"></span>The analogy is inapplicable. Typos in Wikipedia do not persist for over a decade. You believe that you are making an improvement to wikipedia by banning use of sfns from the emotion article. But unfortunately, you will need consensus to enforce that ban. Where is your consensus? <a href="/wiki/User:J_JMesserly" title="User:J JMesserly">J JMesserly</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:J_JMesserly" title="User talk:J JMesserly">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-J_JMesserly-20230306040900-J_JMesserly-20230305231000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">04:09, 6 March 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-J_JMesserly-20230306040900-J_JMesserly-20230305231000"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-J_JMesserly-20230306040900-J_JMesserly-20230305231000"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-MrOllie-20230306041700-J_JMesserly-20230306040900"></span>Your effort to reverse the burden of consensus is noted, but contrary to policy and practice on Wikipedia. Rather than arguing any further on my talk page, please confine further comments to one of the several other discussions you have opened on this topic. <a href="/wiki/User:MrOllie" class="mw-redirect" title="User:MrOllie">MrOllie</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie#top" title="User talk:MrOllie">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-MrOllie-20230306041700-J_JMesserly-20230306040900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">04:17, 6 March 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-MrOllie-20230306041700-J_JMesserly-20230306040900"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-MrOllie-20230306041700-J_JMesserly-20230306040900"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-J_JMesserly-20230306044600-MrOllie-20230306041700"></span>Nonetheless you have achieved no such consensus for a ban. For further information on the incorrect and erroneously encoded information which you have restored to wikipedia, I suggest you read the content of what you reverted, and which I specifically already drew attention to in comments for the edits. To your wikilawyering comment, it seems on the contrary you are less interested in improving the content of Wikipedia that you are in asserting your opinion on other editors making good faith edits. Perhaps you would care to revert the holodomor article which also has had large numbers of sfns introduced in the past couple months.<a href="/wiki/User:J_JMesserly" title="User:J JMesserly">J JMesserly</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:J_JMesserly" title="User talk:J JMesserly">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-J_JMesserly-20230306044600-MrOllie-20230306041700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">04:46, 6 March 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-J_JMesserly-20230306044600-MrOllie-20230306041700"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-J_JMesserly-20230306044600-MrOllie-20230306041700"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-MrOllie-20230306045000-J_JMesserly-20230306044600"></span>Let me be more clear: don't post here about this again. Your personal attacks are not welcome here. <a href="/wiki/User:MrOllie" class="mw-redirect" title="User:MrOllie">MrOllie</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie#top" title="User talk:MrOllie">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-MrOllie-20230306045000-J_JMesserly-20230306044600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">04:50, 6 March 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-MrOllie-20230306045000-J_JMesserly-20230306044600"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-MrOllie-20230306045000-J_JMesserly-20230306044600"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Draft:Multi-accounting_browser" data-mw-thread-id="h-Draft:Multi-accounting_browser-20230306102100"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Draft:Multi-accounting_browser-20230306102100"></span>Draft:Multi-accounting browser<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Draft:Multi-accounting_browser-20230306102100"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Keep_on_trying_go_wiki-20230306102100-Draft:Multi-accounting_browser"></span>Hello! Thank you for checking my edits on the subject of <a href="/w/index.php?title=Draft:Multi-accounting_browser&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Draft:Multi-accounting browser (page does not exist)">antidetect (or multi-accounting) browsers</a>. The topic of digital security is very important to me, because in <a href="/wiki/Belarus" title="Belarus">Belarus</a> after the <a href="/wiki/2020%E2%80%932021_Belarusian_protests" title="2020–2021 Belarusian protests">2020 protests</a>, there is political persecution. I want to do my part in informing people how to keep privacy online and keep political speech free. I have made edits to the articles about identification and web tracking methods: </p> <ul><li><a href="/wiki/Device_fingerprint" title="Device fingerprint">Device fingerprint</a></li> <li><a href="/wiki/Web_tracking" title="Web tracking">Web tracking</a></li></ul> <p>I tried to choose reliable sources for my article about anti-detect browsers. According to the <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.similarweb.com/">similarweb.com</a> version, <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://geekflare.com/">geekflare.com</a> has a <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.similarweb.com/website/geekflare.com/">total visits 4.1M</a> and <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.digitalconnectmag.com/">digitalconnectmag.com</a> has a <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.similarweb.com/website/geekflare.com/">total visits 789.4K</a>. Can you explain why these sources are unreliable? Thank you! I would be very grateful if you could check the draft article <a href="/w/index.php?title=Draft:Multi-accounting_browser&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Draft:Multi-accounting browser (page does not exist)">antidetect (or multi-accounting) browsers</a>. It will greatly help to inform people and develop Wikipedia. Thanks! <a href="/wiki/User:Keep_on_trying_go_wiki" title="User:Keep on trying go wiki">Keep on trying go wiki</a> (<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Keep_on_trying_go_wiki&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:Keep on trying go wiki (page does not exist)">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-Keep_on_trying_go_wiki-20230306102100-Draft:Multi-accounting_browser" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:21, 6 March 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Keep_on_trying_go_wiki-20230306102100-Draft:Multi-accounting_browser"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Keep_on_trying_go_wiki-20230306102100-Draft:Multi-accounting_browser"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-MrOllie-20230306121300-Keep_on_trying_go_wiki-20230306102100"></span>Visitor numbers don't mean anything, we follow what's in <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:RS" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:RS">WP:RS</a>. Digitalconnectmag is someone's blog, and has no editorial oversight or fact checking. Also, the article you cited there is obviously a paid advertisement for Octo Browser. The Geekflare list you cited is also an advertisement, full of paid referral links. - <a href="/wiki/User:MrOllie" class="mw-redirect" title="User:MrOllie">MrOllie</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie#top" title="User talk:MrOllie">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-MrOllie-20230306121300-Keep_on_trying_go_wiki-20230306102100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:13, 6 March 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-MrOllie-20230306121300-Keep_on_trying_go_wiki-20230306102100"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-MrOllie-20230306121300-Keep_on_trying_go_wiki-20230306102100"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Keep_on_trying_go_wiki-20230306133200-MrOllie-20230306121300"></span>Thanks, I get it. The problem is that digital security and trying to avoid surveillance on the Internet is a specific topic. It's hard to find information about fingerprinting technologies rarely found outside of the enthusiast community.</dd> <dd>I first knew about it from the article <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://xakep.ru/2015/01/30/user-web-tracking-howto/">Browser Fingerprinting. How users are tracked on the web</a> in <a class="external text" href="https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Хакер_(журнал)">Hacker Magazine</a>. I think this is a relevant source. Would it be a good idea to link to articles in Russian? <a href="/wiki/User:Keep_on_trying_go_wiki" title="User:Keep on trying go wiki">Keep on trying go wiki</a> (<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Keep_on_trying_go_wiki&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:Keep on trying go wiki (page does not exist)">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-Keep_on_trying_go_wiki-20230306133200-MrOllie-20230306121300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:32, 6 March 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Keep_on_trying_go_wiki-20230306133200-MrOllie-20230306121300"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Keep_on_trying_go_wiki-20230306133200-MrOllie-20230306121300"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-MrOllie-20230306134300-Keep_on_trying_go_wiki-20230306133200"></span>I disagree that it is hard to find information on this. Security is widely written about and there is a robust body of literature on this - there is no reason to resort to Russian language sources for something like this. Have a look at Google Scholar (or whatever your favorite academic search engine happens to be) and use some peer-reviewed articles or books from major publishers. <a href="/wiki/User:MrOllie" class="mw-redirect" title="User:MrOllie">MrOllie</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie#top" title="User talk:MrOllie">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-MrOllie-20230306134300-Keep_on_trying_go_wiki-20230306133200" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:43, 6 March 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-MrOllie-20230306134300-Keep_on_trying_go_wiki-20230306133200"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-MrOllie-20230306134300-Keep_on_trying_go_wiki-20230306133200"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Keep_on_trying_go_wiki-20230307074200-MrOllie-20230306134300"></span>Thank you, I used Google Scholar and did find a small number of peer-reviewed articles and books confirming the content of my edits. I used the new information to improve the article on <a href="/w/index.php?title=Draft:Multi-accounting_browser&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Draft:Multi-accounting browser (page does not exist)">antidetect (or multi-accounting) browsers</a> I linked to. I hoped that it would help you check the content of the article. But you undid my edit. Why? If the problem was the link to the draft, the link to the article can be removed. <a href="/wiki/User:Keep_on_trying_go_wiki" title="User:Keep on trying go wiki">Keep on trying go wiki</a> ((<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Keep_on_trying_go_wiki&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:Keep on trying go wiki (page does not exist)">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-Keep_on_trying_go_wiki-20230307074200-MrOllie-20230306134300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">07:42, 7 March 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Keep_on_trying_go_wiki-20230307074200-MrOllie-20230306134300"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Keep_on_trying_go_wiki-20230307074200-MrOllie-20230306134300"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="why_do_you_think_items_without_wikipedia_article_are_not_allowed_in_comment_hostings_list?" data-mw-thread-id="h-why_do_you_think_items_without_wikipedia_article_are_not_allowed_in_comment_host-20230307155600"><span id="why_do_you_think_items_without_wikipedia_article_are_not_allowed_in_comment_hostings_list.3F"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-why_do_you_think_items_without_wikipedia_article_are_not_allowed_in_comment_host-20230307155600"></span>why do you think items without wikipedia article are not allowed in comment hostings list?<span data-mw-comment-end="h-why_do_you_think_items_without_wikipedia_article_are_not_allowed_in_comment_host-20230307155600"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><a class="external autonumber" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Blog_comment_hosting_service&oldid=prev&diff=1143404390&diffmode=source"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Qdinar-20230307155600-why_do_you_think_items_without_wikipedia_article_are_not_allowed_in_comment_host"></span>[5]</a> - you deleted HyperComments, Facebook, VK saying "Rm entry without wikipedia article". why do you think that such items should be deleted? are there any rule or community decision? if not, and it is sole your desicion, is not it vandalism? <a href="/wiki/User:Qdinar" title="User:Qdinar">Qdinar</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Qdinar" title="User talk:Qdinar">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-Qdinar-20230307155600-why_do_you_think_items_without_wikipedia_article_are_not_allowed_in_comment_host" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:56, 7 March 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Qdinar-20230307155600-why_do_you_think_items_without_wikipedia_article_are_not_allowed_in_comment_host"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Qdinar-20230307155600-why_do_you_think_items_without_wikipedia_article_are_not_allowed_in_comment_host"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-MrOllie-20230307160500-Qdinar-20230307155600"></span>Wikipedia is <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:NOT" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:NOT">not</a> a directory, so cluttering up such lists with things that aren't actually members (the VK and Facebook entries) or are not notable (HyperComments) is unhelpful. This is the most common inclusion criteria for such lists of software across Wikipedia. - <a href="/wiki/User:MrOllie" class="mw-redirect" title="User:MrOllie">MrOllie</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie#top" title="User talk:MrOllie">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-MrOllie-20230307160500-Qdinar-20230307155600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:05, 7 March 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-MrOllie-20230307160500-Qdinar-20230307155600"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-MrOllie-20230307160500-Qdinar-20230307155600"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Qdinar-20230307162300-MrOllie-20230307160500"></span>so, you have changed the reason why you deleted them. <a href="/wiki/User:Qdinar" title="User:Qdinar">Qdinar</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Qdinar" title="User talk:Qdinar">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-Qdinar-20230307162300-MrOllie-20230307160500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:23, 7 March 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Qdinar-20230307162300-MrOllie-20230307160500"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Qdinar-20230307162300-MrOllie-20230307160500"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-MrOllie-20230307162700-Qdinar-20230307162300"></span>Incorrect. <a href="/wiki/User:MrOllie" class="mw-redirect" title="User:MrOllie">MrOllie</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie#top" title="User talk:MrOllie">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-MrOllie-20230307162700-Qdinar-20230307162300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:27, 7 March 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-MrOllie-20230307162700-Qdinar-20230307162300"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-MrOllie-20230307162700-Qdinar-20230307162300"></span></dd></dl></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Qdinar-20230307165300-MrOllie-20230307160500"></span>ok, i see, you say it is most common criterion. i would like to see examples. <a href="/wiki/User:Qdinar" title="User:Qdinar">Qdinar</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Qdinar" title="User talk:Qdinar">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-Qdinar-20230307165300-MrOllie-20230307160500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:53, 7 March 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Qdinar-20230307165300-MrOllie-20230307160500"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Qdinar-20230307165300-MrOllie-20230307160500"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-MrOllie-20230307173000-Qdinar-20230307165300"></span>Nah, do your own research. I'm not inclined to help out after you called me a vandal. <a href="/wiki/User:MrOllie" class="mw-redirect" title="User:MrOllie">MrOllie</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie#top" title="User talk:MrOllie">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-MrOllie-20230307173000-Qdinar-20230307165300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:30, 7 March 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-MrOllie-20230307173000-Qdinar-20230307165300"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-MrOllie-20230307173000-Qdinar-20230307165300"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Bullwhip_effect" data-mw-thread-id="h-Bullwhip_effect-20230308132000"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Bullwhip_effect-20230308132000"></span>Bullwhip effect<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Bullwhip_effect-20230308132000"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Opsprof553-20230308132000-Bullwhip_effect"></span>Thank for checking my edits. You removed a reference to a peer-reviewed paper on <a href="/wiki/Bullwhip_effect" title="Bullwhip effect">demand smoothing</a>, with a comment "Apparent COI". The sentence referencing the paper only contains what is mentioned in the article - please feel free to check the source and reinstate the edit. Thanks. <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Opsprof553&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Opsprof553 (page does not exist)">Opsprof553</a> (<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Opsprof553&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:Opsprof553 (page does not exist)">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-Opsprof553-20230308132000-Bullwhip_effect" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:20, 8 March 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Opsprof553-20230308132000-Bullwhip_effect"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Opsprof553-20230308132000-Bullwhip_effect"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Reverting_promotional_edits_to_C-V2X_(again)" data-mw-thread-id="h-Reverting_promotional_edits_to_C-V2X_(again)-20230310211900"><span id="Reverting_promotional_edits_to_C-V2X_.28again.29"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Reverting_promotional_edits_to_C-V2X_(again)-20230310211900"></span>Reverting promotional edits to C-V2X (again)<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Reverting_promotional_edits_to_C-V2X_(again)-20230310211900"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-SixSix-20230310211900-Reverting_promotional_edits_to_C-V2X_(again)"></span>I noticed that <a href="/wiki/Cellular_V2X" title="Cellular V2X">Cellular V2X</a> is full of unprofessional, unencyclopedic marketing fluff, promotional nonsense, puffery, and the like, all added by one user. I also saw that you reverted three of this same user's edits back in November. (Thank you for that.) After your revert, though, they added it all back in a minute later, and I think the same person logged back in later that same day from an anonymous IP and added more junk. I wanted to add the Advert template to the article but thought that I would first give you the opportunity to (once again) revert their edits. <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:SixSix&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:SixSix (page does not exist)">SixSix</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:SixSix" title="User talk:SixSix">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-SixSix-20230310211900-Reverting_promotional_edits_to_C-V2X_(again)" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:19, 10 March 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-SixSix-20230310211900-Reverting_promotional_edits_to_C-V2X_(again)"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-SixSix-20230310211900-Reverting_promotional_edits_to_C-V2X_(again)"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-MrOllie-20230312044000-SixSix-20230310211900"></span>Thanks for pointing it out. <a href="/wiki/User:MrOllie" class="mw-redirect" title="User:MrOllie">MrOllie</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie#top" title="User talk:MrOllie">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-MrOllie-20230312044000-SixSix-20230310211900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">04:40, 12 March 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-MrOllie-20230312044000-SixSix-20230310211900"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-MrOllie-20230312044000-SixSix-20230310211900"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="About_the_Ms._Gsptlsnz_page" data-mw-thread-id="h-About_the_Ms._Gsptlsnz_page-20230312173200"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-About_the_Ms._Gsptlsnz_page-20230312173200"></span>About the <a href="/wiki/Ms._Gsptlsnz" title="Ms. Gsptlsnz">Ms. Gsptlsnz</a> page<span data-mw-comment-end="h-About_the_Ms._Gsptlsnz_page-20230312173200"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Sundropie-20230312173200-About_the_Ms._Gsptlsnz_page"></span>I'm so sorry about editing the page like that. I thought Comic Vine is an appropriate link. Please forgive me. <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Sundropie&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Sundropie (page does not exist)">Sundropie</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Sundropie" title="User talk:Sundropie">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-Sundropie-20230312173200-About_the_Ms._Gsptlsnz_page" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:32, 12 March 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Sundropie-20230312173200-About_the_Ms._Gsptlsnz_page"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Sundropie-20230312173200-About_the_Ms._Gsptlsnz_page"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-MrOllie-20230312173400-Sundropie-20230312173200"></span>You keep repeating the same mistakes about external links. You were also damaging the article by changing it in ways that did not match the cited sources (but added incorrect spellings). Your editing is making Wikipedia worse, and you must stop. <a href="/wiki/User:MrOllie" class="mw-redirect" title="User:MrOllie">MrOllie</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie#top" title="User talk:MrOllie">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-MrOllie-20230312173400-Sundropie-20230312173200" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:34, 12 March 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-MrOllie-20230312173400-Sundropie-20230312173200"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-MrOllie-20230312173400-Sundropie-20230312173200"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Sundropie-20230312191000-MrOllie-20230312173400"></span>What's wrong with Comic Vine and how could I add incorrect spellings? <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Sundropie&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Sundropie (page does not exist)">Sundropie</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Sundropie" title="User talk:Sundropie">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-Sundropie-20230312191000-MrOllie-20230312173400" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:10, 12 March 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Sundropie-20230312191000-MrOllie-20230312173400"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Sundropie-20230312191000-MrOllie-20230312173400"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-MrOllie-20230312191500-Sundropie-20230312191000"></span>I am not going to continue answering your repetitive questions (see <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:IDHT" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:IDHT">WP:IDHT</a>). You have claimed to understand the policies and guidelines several times before. You were either lying then, or you are deliberately violating the guidelines. Which is it? <a href="/wiki/User:MrOllie" class="mw-redirect" title="User:MrOllie">MrOllie</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie#top" title="User talk:MrOllie">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-MrOllie-20230312191500-Sundropie-20230312191000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:15, 12 March 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-MrOllie-20230312191500-Sundropie-20230312191000"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-MrOllie-20230312191500-Sundropie-20230312191000"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-MrOllie-20230312191700-MrOllie-20230312191500"></span>Do not delete my talk page posts again. <a href="/wiki/User:MrOllie" class="mw-redirect" title="User:MrOllie">MrOllie</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie#top" title="User talk:MrOllie">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-MrOllie-20230312191700-MrOllie-20230312191500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:17, 12 March 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-MrOllie-20230312191700-MrOllie-20230312191500"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-MrOllie-20230312191700-MrOllie-20230312191500"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Edusemiotics_as_notable_subfield_of_semiotics" data-mw-thread-id="h-Edusemiotics_as_notable_subfield_of_semiotics-20230313001800"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Edusemiotics_as_notable_subfield_of_semiotics-20230313001800"></span>Edusemiotics as notable subfield of semiotics<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Edusemiotics_as_notable_subfield_of_semiotics-20230313001800"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Dr._Sebeotic-20230313001800-Edusemiotics_as_notable_subfield_of_semiotics"></span>In adding edusemiotics as a subfield of semiotics, I tried to refer to the main authors in this field, highlighting the work of founders Inna Semetsky and Andrew Stables, all major academic publications with significant citations. Can you explain why you question the notoriety of these sources and contributors? In my estimation, the range of volumes and review articles on edusemiotics suggests the need for this entry (see: <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.routledge.com/Edusemiotics-Semiotic-philosophy-as-educational-foundation/Stables-Semetsky/p/book/9781138703407">Stables & Semetsky, 2015</a>; <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://link.springer.com/content/pdf/10.1007/978-981-10-1495-6.pdf">Semetsky, 2016 (ed.)</a>; <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/00131857.2016.1190265?casa_token=qU3Va7M7T2QAAAAA%3AMjnc-ohSej8AOWTXbySgAhaa-fvodpmr79qiSo4BxmHqSMQxybWL5fwrH5tvBJyZtSBXe8lkraSL">Deely & Semetsky, 2017</a>) <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Dr._Sebeotic&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Dr. Sebeotic (page does not exist)">Dr. Sebeotic</a> (<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Dr._Sebeotic&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:Dr. Sebeotic (page does not exist)">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-Dr._Sebeotic-20230313001800-Edusemiotics_as_notable_subfield_of_semiotics" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:18, 13 March 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Dr._Sebeotic-20230313001800-Edusemiotics_as_notable_subfield_of_semiotics"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Dr._Sebeotic-20230313001800-Edusemiotics_as_notable_subfield_of_semiotics"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-MrOllie-20230313003200-Dr._Sebeotic-20230313001800"></span>Notability has an established meaning on Wikipedia, which you can find at <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:N" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:N">WP:N</a>. We generally do not build lists of scholars that do not meet that standard. We also do not tend to write about neologisms that have not reached (very) wide use in unaffiliated sources. Are you associated with one or more of these authors in some way? <a href="/wiki/User:MrOllie" class="mw-redirect" title="User:MrOllie">MrOllie</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie#top" title="User talk:MrOllie">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-MrOllie-20230313003200-Dr._Sebeotic-20230313001800" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:32, 13 March 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-MrOllie-20230313003200-Dr._Sebeotic-20230313001800"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-MrOllie-20230313003200-Dr._Sebeotic-20230313001800"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Dr._Sebeotic-20230313005800-MrOllie-20230313003200"></span>Thanks, yes I realize that established meaning. I assumed the neologism, coined in 2010 by Marcel Danesi -- and the subject of dozens of articles, several special issues and edited volumes, and a handbook -- met this established meaning. I am not associated with or know the authors; simply a contributor to a related field in education that has drawn from these resources/theoretical frameworks in separate work. <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Dr._Sebeotic&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Dr. Sebeotic (page does not exist)">Dr. Sebeotic</a> (<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Dr._Sebeotic&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:Dr. Sebeotic (page does not exist)">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-Dr._Sebeotic-20230313005800-MrOllie-20230313003200" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:58, 13 March 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Dr._Sebeotic-20230313005800-MrOllie-20230313003200"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Dr._Sebeotic-20230313005800-MrOllie-20230313003200"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Solana_blockchain_page" data-mw-thread-id="h-Solana_blockchain_page-20230315190500"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Solana_blockchain_page-20230315190500"></span>Solana blockchain page<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Solana_blockchain_page-20230315190500"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Eugeneprokopenko-20230315190500-Solana_blockchain_page"></span>Hello, I tried to add a list of discussions (podcasts) about the Solana blockchain so that readers can get a perspective of Solana that does not reflect the negative biases of the authors of the Solana wikipedia page. You removed the podcasts saying that Wikipedia is not a link directory. How can I add a list of discussions about Solana so that Wikipedia users can get a balanced view of the Solana blockchain platform? <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Eugeneprokopenko&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Eugeneprokopenko (page does not exist)">Eugeneprokopenko</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Eugeneprokopenko" title="User talk:Eugeneprokopenko">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-Eugeneprokopenko-20230315190500-Solana_blockchain_page" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:05, 15 March 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Eugeneprokopenko-20230315190500-Solana_blockchain_page"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Eugeneprokopenko-20230315190500-Solana_blockchain_page"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-MrOllie-20230315191400-Eugeneprokopenko-20230315190500"></span>Wikipedia isn't a link directory, we don't carry external links to podcasts here. It is off-mission for an encyclopedia. There is no way to 'add a list of discussions about Solana' because that is not what this platform is for. You also might want to look at <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:FALSEBALANCE" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:FALSEBALANCE">WP:FALSEBALANCE</a> - we follow the tone of independent sources, we do not seek to provide a 'balanced view'. To cite an admittedly extreme example, consider what a flat earther would consider a 'balanced view' of <a href="/wiki/Flat_earth" class="mw-redirect" title="Flat earth">Flat earth</a>. Please direct any further discussion to <a href="/wiki/Talk:Solana_(blockchain_platform)" title="Talk:Solana (blockchain platform)">Talk:Solana (blockchain platform)</a>, which is where such things belong. <a href="/wiki/User:MrOllie" class="mw-redirect" title="User:MrOllie">MrOllie</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie#top" title="User talk:MrOllie">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-MrOllie-20230315191400-Eugeneprokopenko-20230315190500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:14, 15 March 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-MrOllie-20230315191400-Eugeneprokopenko-20230315190500"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-MrOllie-20230315191400-Eugeneprokopenko-20230315190500"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="New_message_from_Aaron_Liu" data-mw-thread-id="h-New_message_from_Aaron_Liu-20230315221400"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-New_message_from_Aaron_Liu-20230315221400"></span>New message from Aaron Liu<span data-mw-comment-end="h-New_message_from_Aaron_Liu-20230315221400"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Aaron_Liu-20230315221400-New_message_from_Aaron_Liu"></span><style data-mw-deduplicate="TemplateStyles:r1256396942">.mw-parser-output .umbox{background-color:var(--background-color-content-added,#a3d3ff);border:1px solid var(--border-color-progressive,#36c);padding:0.5em 1em;margin:2em 0 1em;font-weight:bold;overflow:auto;vertical-align:middle}</style> <div class="umbox" style=""><figure class="mw-halign-left" typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/Talk:Breakdancing#History_2" title="Talk:Breakdancing"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/2/23/Nuvola_apps_edu_languages.svg/40px-Nuvola_apps_edu_languages.svg.png" decoding="async" width="40" height="40" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/2/23/Nuvola_apps_edu_languages.svg/60px-Nuvola_apps_edu_languages.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/2/23/Nuvola_apps_edu_languages.svg/80px-Nuvola_apps_edu_languages.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="128" data-file-height="128"/></a><figcaption></figcaption></figure>Hello, MrOllie. You have new messages at <a href="/wiki/Talk:Breakdancing#History_2" title="Talk:Breakdancing">Talk:Breakdancing</a>.<br/><span style="font-size: 88%; font-weight: normal;">Message added 22:14, 15 March 2023 (UTC). You can <a href="/wiki/Special:EditPage/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17" title="Special:EditPage/User talk:MrOllie/Archive 17">remove this notice</a> at any time by removing the {{Talkback}} or {{Tb}} template.</span></div> <p><a href="/wiki/User:Aaron_Liu" title="User:Aaron Liu"><span style="color: rgb(6,69,173); text-decoration: inherit;">Aaron Liu</span></a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Aaron_Liu#top" title="User talk:Aaron Liu">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-Aaron_Liu-20230315221400-New_message_from_Aaron_Liu" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:14, 15 March 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Aaron_Liu-20230315221400-New_message_from_Aaron_Liu"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Aaron_Liu-20230315221400-New_message_from_Aaron_Liu"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="About_the_pellet_mill_page" data-mw-thread-id="h-About_the_pellet_mill_page-20230316071800"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-About_the_pellet_mill_page-20230316071800"></span>About the pellet mill page<span data-mw-comment-end="h-About_the_pellet_mill_page-20230316071800"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Stormalex-20230316071800-About_the_pellet_mill_page"></span>1.I add my process principle about the pellet mill, can my content be republished if I don't add any links? </p><p>2. Can I add a link to the archive.org category to view the archives. <a href="/wiki/User:Stormalex" title="User:Stormalex">Stormalex</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Stormalex" title="User talk:Stormalex">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-Stormalex-20230316071800-About_the_pellet_mill_page" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">07:18, 16 March 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Stormalex-20230316071800-About_the_pellet_mill_page"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Stormalex-20230316071800-About_the_pellet_mill_page"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Recent_changes_to_Solana_(blockchain_platform)" data-mw-thread-id="h-Recent_changes_to_Solana_(blockchain_platform)-20230318215800"><span id="Recent_changes_to_Solana_.28blockchain_platform.29"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Recent_changes_to_Solana_(blockchain_platform)-20230318215800"></span>Recent changes to Solana_(blockchain_platform)<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Recent_changes_to_Solana_(blockchain_platform)-20230318215800"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Mikemaccana-20230318215800-Recent_changes_to_Solana_(blockchain_platform)"></span>You recently removed developer stats for the Solana blockchain. As mentioned in the edit history when this information was re-added, the majority of modern blockchains are platforms for distributed applications - a blockchain being popular with developers is indeed a notable aspect of the blockchain. See <a href="/wiki/Blockchain" title="Blockchain">Blockchain</a> and <a href="/wiki/Decentralized_application" title="Decentralized application">Decentralized_application</a> for more on this topic. </p><p>Note I did not raise the importance flags re: Melania Trump. However I did remove the information per the flag. <small class="autosigned">— Preceding <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Signatures" title="Wikipedia:Signatures">unsigned</a> comment added by <a href="/wiki/User:Mikemaccana" title="User:Mikemaccana">Mikemaccana</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Mikemaccana#top" title="User talk:Mikemaccana">talk</a> • <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Mikemaccana" title="Special:Contributions/Mikemaccana">contribs</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-Mikemaccana-20230318215800-Recent_changes_to_Solana_(blockchain_platform)" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:58, 18 March 2023 (UTC)</a></small><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Mikemaccana-20230318215800-Recent_changes_to_Solana_(blockchain_platform)"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Mikemaccana-20230318215800-Recent_changes_to_Solana_(blockchain_platform)"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-MrOllie-20230318220000-Mikemaccana-20230318215800"></span>You are in violation of the editing restrictions on crypto articles, as I already notified you on your talk page. I take it from this posting that you are not planning to self revert, so I'll report the violation. - <a href="/wiki/User:MrOllie" class="mw-redirect" title="User:MrOllie">MrOllie</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie#top" title="User talk:MrOllie">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-MrOllie-20230318220000-Mikemaccana-20230318215800" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:00, 18 March 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-MrOllie-20230318220000-Mikemaccana-20230318215800"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-MrOllie-20230318220000-Mikemaccana-20230318215800"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Mikemaccana-20230318221300-MrOllie-20230318220000"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:MrOllie" class="mw-redirect" title="User:MrOllie">MrOllie</a> I have undone the vandalism as previously discussed. As discussed on your own page, your behaviour in this matter is not constructive. How do I report other users for engaging in edit wars? I am <b>very happy</b> for a neutral third party to judge both of our actions in this matter. <a href="/wiki/User:Mikemaccana" title="User:Mikemaccana">Mikemaccana</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Mikemaccana" title="User talk:Mikemaccana">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-Mikemaccana-20230318221300-MrOllie-20230318220000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:13, 18 March 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Mikemaccana-20230318221300-MrOllie-20230318220000"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Mikemaccana-20230318221300-MrOllie-20230318220000"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-MrOllie-20230318221400-Mikemaccana-20230318221300"></span>We don't need to be discussing this in 4 places, I will not respond here any further. <a href="/wiki/User:MrOllie" class="mw-redirect" title="User:MrOllie">MrOllie</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie#top" title="User talk:MrOllie">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-MrOllie-20230318221400-Mikemaccana-20230318221300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:14, 18 March 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-MrOllie-20230318221400-Mikemaccana-20230318221300"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-MrOllie-20230318221400-Mikemaccana-20230318221300"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Mikemaccana-20230318221500-MrOllie-20230318221400"></span>Sure. For what it's worth, I raised the matter here immediately after undoing your edits for vandalism. <a href="/wiki/User:Mikemaccana" title="User:Mikemaccana">Mikemaccana</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Mikemaccana" title="User talk:Mikemaccana">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-Mikemaccana-20230318221500-MrOllie-20230318221400" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:15, 18 March 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Mikemaccana-20230318221500-MrOllie-20230318221400"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Mikemaccana-20230318221500-MrOllie-20230318221400"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Fintech:_Revision_history_-_jargon_bomb" data-mw-thread-id="h-Fintech:_Revision_history_-_jargon_bomb-20230318132700"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Fintech:_Revision_history_-_jargon_bomb-20230318132700"></span>Fintech: Revision history - jargon bomb<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Fintech:_Revision_history_-_jargon_bomb-20230318132700"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Charlesberthillon-20230318132700-Fintech:_Revision_history_-_jargon_bomb"></span>Hello MrOllie, </p><p>I refer to your change: <i>19:22, 17 March 2023‎ MrOllie talk contribs‎ 31,617 bytes −244‎ rm jargon bomb </i> for the page Fintech. </p><p>This was my contribution to an existing paragraph that has existed since the origins of the page: <i>curprev 14:14, 4 March 2023‎ Charlesberthillon talk contribs‎ m 32,054 bytes −273‎ As such,[...] solutions. These niche areas ,[...] services. I removed the last sentence: "A subset of fintech companies that focus on the insurance industry are collectively known as insurtech or insuretech companies.6,7" The last sentence was reducing the scope of the concept undo Tags: Visual edit references removed</i> </p><p>You are referring to "jargon bomb", but this jargon already exists in the world of Fintech and was mentioned in the paragraph above mentioned, before I modified it: the paragraph was not exhaustive. Would you be kind an replace the paragraph with your terms should you consider a paragraph safe from the jargon bomb? </p><p>Fintech is a global term that includes a lot of segments, I think this page should introduce the areas of the Fintech as it is defined in the page for Finance. </p><p>Happy to contribute further </p><p>Charles </p><p><a href="/wiki/User:Charlesberthillon" title="User:Charlesberthillon">Charlesberthillon</a> (<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Charlesberthillon&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:Charlesberthillon (page does not exist)">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-Charlesberthillon-20230318132700-Fintech:_Revision_history_-_jargon_bomb" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:27, 18 March 2023 (UTC)</a>Charlesberthillon<span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Charlesberthillon-20230318132700-Fintech:_Revision_history_-_jargon_bomb"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Charlesberthillon-20230318132700-Fintech:_Revision_history_-_jargon_bomb"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-MrOllie-20230318133900-Charlesberthillon-20230318132700"></span>The lead summarizes the rest of the article, and none of what you wrote is a summary of the body of the article. And in general, these companies introduce a lot of neologisms in their marketing, but you have provided no sourcing to indicate these are distinct market segments. Direct any followups to <a href="/wiki/Talk:FinTech" class="mw-redirect" title="Talk:FinTech">Talk:FinTech</a>, which is where this sort of discussion belongs. <a href="/wiki/User:MrOllie" class="mw-redirect" title="User:MrOllie">MrOllie</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie#top" title="User talk:MrOllie">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-MrOllie-20230318133900-Charlesberthillon-20230318132700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:39, 18 March 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-MrOllie-20230318133900-Charlesberthillon-20230318132700"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-MrOllie-20230318133900-Charlesberthillon-20230318132700"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Charlesberthillon-20230318142100-MrOllie-20230318133900"></span>Thank you for the answer, I will follow up on Talk:FinTech with sources.</dd> <dd>Best Regards <a href="/wiki/User:Charlesberthillon" title="User:Charlesberthillon">Charlesberthillon</a> (<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Charlesberthillon&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:Charlesberthillon (page does not exist)">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-Charlesberthillon-20230318142100-MrOllie-20230318133900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:21, 18 March 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Charlesberthillon-20230318142100-MrOllie-20230318133900"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Charlesberthillon-20230318142100-MrOllie-20230318133900"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Charlesberthillon-20230319210000-Charlesberthillon-20230318142100"></span>Dear Mr. Ollie,</dd> <dd>I apologize for sending this message, but I would like to request your opinion on the best approach for a situation. I was surprised by the aggressiveness in the <a href="/wiki/Talk:FinTech" class="mw-redirect" title="Talk:FinTech">Talk:FinTech</a> space, but it has helped me to better understand the logic applied on Wikipedia. Before returning to this space, I would like to submit the following content for your advice.</dd> <dd>I would like to add this paragraph in the <a href="/wiki/Fintech" title="Fintech">Fintech</a> page, second paragraph of the introduction:</dd> <dd><b>The main business functions in Fintech include Payment Services, Credit and Lending, Insurance Services, and Investment/Wealth Management linked to client services. Additionally, Fintech encompasses support services such as RegTech for Financial Regulation. The financial industry has used persistent neologisms to define market segments based on these business and support functions. These Fintech segments include InsurTech, RegTech, WealthTech, Blockchain/cryptocurrency, and Cybersecurity.</b></dd> <dd>My aim is to develop each one of this business segments and articulate the Fintech page as an umbrella for other wikipedia pages, such as <a href="/wiki/Neobank" title="Neobank">neobank</a> ...which refers to <a href="/wiki/Fintech" title="Fintech">Fintech</a> by the way</dd> <dd>Sources: I worked on 3 main sources for this paragraph: 2 corporates Deloitte and KPMG; and one from Elsevier</dd> <dd><a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="https://assets.kpmg/content/dam/kpmg/xx/pdf/2021/08/pulse-of-fintech-h1.pdf">https://assets.kpmg/content/dam/kpmg/xx/pdf/2021/08/pulse-of-fintech-h1.pdf</a></dd> <dd><a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="https://www2.deloitte.com/uk/en/pages/financial-services/articles/uk-fintech-landscape.html">https://www2.deloitte.com/uk/en/pages/financial-services/articles/uk-fintech-landscape.html</a></dd> <dd><a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S2666954422000084">https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S2666954422000084</a></dd> <dd>I hope you can share your experience on my request.</dd> <dd>Thank you in advance</dd> <dd><a href="/wiki/User:Charlesberthillon" title="User:Charlesberthillon">Charles Berthillon</a> (<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Charlesberthillon&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:Charlesberthillon (page does not exist)">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-Charlesberthillon-20230319210000-Charlesberthillon-20230318142100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:00, 19 March 2023 (UTC)</a>Charlesberthillon<span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Charlesberthillon-20230319210000-Charlesberthillon-20230318142100"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Charlesberthillon-20230319210000-Charlesberthillon-20230318142100"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-MrOllie-20230319210800-Charlesberthillon-20230319210000"></span>You encountered hostility because you have a <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:COI" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:COI">conflict of interest</a>. The Wikipedia community tends to have very little patience with COI editors, and that is part of the reason why editing in areas where you have a COI is strongly discouraged. Due to your COI, You should not add that to the article. Given the reception you have already gotten on the article talk page, it is very clear that would not enjoy <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:CONSENSUS" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:CONSENSUS">support from other editors</a>. Making such a change anyway would be a very bad idea. <a href="/wiki/User:MrOllie" class="mw-redirect" title="User:MrOllie">MrOllie</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie#top" title="User talk:MrOllie">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-MrOllie-20230319210800-Charlesberthillon-20230319210000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:08, 19 March 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-MrOllie-20230319210800-Charlesberthillon-20230319210000"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-MrOllie-20230319210800-Charlesberthillon-20230319210000"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Charlesberthillon-20230319211800-MrOllie-20230319210800"></span>Thank you for your sincerity. I will not publish on this page then. Feel free to ask me questions on Fintech should you like to publish on the <a href="/wiki/Fintech" title="Fintech">Fintech</a> page. <a href="/wiki/User:Charlesberthillon" title="User:Charlesberthillon">Charles Berthillon</a> (<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Charlesberthillon&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:Charlesberthillon (page does not exist)">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-Charlesberthillon-20230319211800-MrOllie-20230319210800" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:18, 19 March 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Charlesberthillon-20230319211800-MrOllie-20230319210800"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Charlesberthillon-20230319211800-MrOllie-20230319210800"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="SOAP_and_gRPC_changes_by_ArtemArzamastcev" data-mw-thread-id="h-SOAP_and_gRPC_changes_by_ArtemArzamastcev-20230320131100"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-SOAP_and_gRPC_changes_by_ArtemArzamastcev-20230320131100"></span>SOAP and gRPC changes by ArtemArzamastcev<span data-mw-comment-end="h-SOAP_and_gRPC_changes_by_ArtemArzamastcev-20230320131100"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-ArtemArzamastcev-20230320131100-SOAP_and_gRPC_changes_by_ArtemArzamastcev"></span>Hello @<a href="/wiki/User:MrOllie" class="mw-redirect" title="User:MrOllie">MrOllie</a>, that you marked spam it's not correctly, cuz this topics are not fully covered and API protocols comparison is an important part while learning about them, I could add links to Wiki pages, but they are not <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:ArtemArzamastcev&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:ArtemArzamastcev (page does not exist)">ArtemArzamastcev</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:ArtemArzamastcev" title="User talk:ArtemArzamastcev">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-ArtemArzamastcev-20230320131100-SOAP_and_gRPC_changes_by_ArtemArzamastcev" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:11, 20 March 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-ArtemArzamastcev-20230320131100-SOAP_and_gRPC_changes_by_ArtemArzamastcev"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-ArtemArzamastcev-20230320131100-SOAP_and_gRPC_changes_by_ArtemArzamastcev"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-MrOllie-20230320131700-ArtemArzamastcev-20230320131100"></span>You're repetitively adding a link to a vendor's website to Wikipedia. That is spam as we define it here. <a href="/wiki/User:MrOllie" class="mw-redirect" title="User:MrOllie">MrOllie</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie#top" title="User talk:MrOllie">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-MrOllie-20230320131700-ArtemArzamastcev-20230320131100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:17, 20 March 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-MrOllie-20230320131700-ArtemArzamastcev-20230320131100"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-MrOllie-20230320131700-ArtemArzamastcev-20230320131100"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-ArtemArzamastcev-20230320144600-MrOllie-20230320131700"></span>I added links today first time to this vendor, if 3 links in a row it's to much for one day - ok, I will know, but it's not spam! it's high quality content from Google TOP <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:ArtemArzamastcev&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:ArtemArzamastcev (page does not exist)">ArtemArzamastcev</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:ArtemArzamastcev" title="User talk:ArtemArzamastcev">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-ArtemArzamastcev-20230320144600-MrOllie-20230320131700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:46, 20 March 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-ArtemArzamastcev-20230320144600-MrOllie-20230320131700"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-ArtemArzamastcev-20230320144600-MrOllie-20230320131700"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-MrOllie-20230320151600-ArtemArzamastcev-20230320144600"></span>That's not true, you also added these links in 2021. Wikipedia isn't a place to insert links to vendors. You have now been warned - if these links continue to be added your account may be blocked and/or the site will be added to Wikipedia's spam blacklist. If you're not here to spam, simply don't add the link again. <a href="/wiki/User:MrOllie" class="mw-redirect" title="User:MrOllie">MrOllie</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie#top" title="User talk:MrOllie">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-MrOllie-20230320151600-ArtemArzamastcev-20230320144600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:16, 20 March 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-MrOllie-20230320151600-ArtemArzamastcev-20230320144600"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-MrOllie-20230320151600-ArtemArzamastcev-20230320144600"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Renfield" data-mw-thread-id="h-Renfield-20230321230100"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Renfield-20230321230100"></span><i>Renfield</i><span data-mw-comment-end="h-Renfield-20230321230100"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-89.19.67.200-20230321230100-Renfield"></span>Hello @<a href="/wiki/User:MrOllie" class="mw-redirect" title="User:MrOllie">MrOllie</a>: it really is that simple. Earlier today, <a href="/wiki/Chris_McKay" title="Chris McKay">Chris McKay</a> confirmed that the 2023 <a href="/wiki/Universal_Pictures" title="Universal Pictures">Universal Pictures</a> <i>Dracula</i> film <i><a href="/wiki/Renfield_(film)" title="Renfield (film)">Renfield</a></i> will serve as a direct <a href="/wiki/Sequel" title="Sequel">sequel</a> to <a href="/wiki/Tod_Browning" title="Tod Browning">Tod Browning</a>'s original 1931 <a href="/wiki/English_language" title="English language">English language</a> <a href="/wiki/Universal_Pictures" title="Universal Pictures">Universal Pictures</a> <i><a href="/wiki/Dracula_(1931_English-language_film)" title="Dracula (1931 English-language film)">Dracula</a></i> film, marking "[t]he longest time between the original movie and the sequel". It is not a controversial statement: it's literally just what he says.<sup id="cite_ref-Fangoria_3-0" class="reference"><a href="#cite_note-Fangoria-3"><span class="cite-bracket">[</span>1<span class="cite-bracket">]</span></a></sup> <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/89.19.67.200" title="Special:Contributions/89.19.67.200">89.19.67.200</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:89.19.67.200" title="User talk:89.19.67.200">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-89.19.67.200-20230321230100-Renfield" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:01, 21 March 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-89.19.67.200-20230321230100-Renfield"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-89.19.67.200-20230321230100-Renfield"></span> </p> <span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-MrOllie-20230321231200-Renfield"></span><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1232521257"><div class="reflist-talk"> <p class="reflist-talk-title">References</p> <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1239543626"><div class="reflist"> <div class="mw-references-wrap"><ol class="references"> <li id="cite_note-Fangoria-3"><span class="mw-cite-backlink"><b><a href="#cite_ref-Fangoria_3-0">^</a></b></span> <span class="reference-text"><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1238218222"><cite id="CITEREFFangoria_Staff2023" class="citation news cs1"><a href="/wiki/Fangoria" title="Fangoria">Fangoria Staff</a> (21 March 2023). <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.fangoria.com/original/chris-mckay-confirms-renfield-is-a-direct-sequel-to-dracula">"Chris McKay Confirms <i>Renfield</i> is a Direct Sequel to <i>Dracula</i>"</a>. <i><a href="/wiki/Fangoria" title="Fangoria">Fangoria</a></i><span class="reference-accessdate">. Retrieved <span class="nowrap">21 March</span> 2023</span>.</cite><span title="ctx_ver=Z39.88-2004&rft_val_fmt=info%3Aofi%2Ffmt%3Akev%3Amtx%3Ajournal&rft.genre=article&rft.jtitle=Fangoria&rft.atitle=Chris+McKay+Confirms+Renfield+is+a+Direct+Sequel+to+Dracula&rft.date=2023-03-21&rft.au=Fangoria+Staff&rft_id=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.fangoria.com%2Foriginal%2Fchris-mckay-confirms-renfield-is-a-direct-sequel-to-dracula&rfr_id=info%3Asid%2Fen.wikipedia.org%3AUser+talk%3AMrOllie%2FArchive+17" class="Z3988"></span><span class="cs1-maint citation-comment"><code class="cs1-code">{{<a href="/wiki/Template:Cite_news" title="Template:Cite news">cite news</a>}}</code>: CS1 maint: url-status (<a href="/wiki/Category:CS1_maint:_url-status" title="Category:CS1 maint: url-status">link</a>)</span></span> </li> </ol></div></div> </div> <dl><dd>Keep it on the article's talk page where it belongs, and do not edit war. Wait for <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:CONSENSUS" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:CONSENSUS">WP:CONSENSUS</a> support for your edits. - <a href="/wiki/User:MrOllie" class="mw-redirect" title="User:MrOllie">MrOllie</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie#top" title="User talk:MrOllie">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-MrOllie-20230321231200-Renfield" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:12, 21 March 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-MrOllie-20230321231200-Renfield"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-MrOllie-20230321231200-Renfield"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="A_barnstar_for_you!" data-mw-thread-id="h-A_barnstar_for_you!-20230322031600"><span id="A_barnstar_for_you.21"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-A_barnstar_for_you!-20230322031600"></span>A barnstar for you!<span data-mw-comment-end="h-A_barnstar_for_you!-20230322031600"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <table style="border: 1px solid gray; background-color: #fdffe7;"> <tbody><tr> <td rowspan="2" style="vertical-align:middle;"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Hajoon0102-20230322031600-A_barnstar_for_you!"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:SpecialBarnstar.png" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/4/45/SpecialBarnstar.png/100px-SpecialBarnstar.png" decoding="async" width="100" height="99" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/45/SpecialBarnstar.png 1.5x" data-file-width="122" data-file-height="121"/></a></span> </td> <td rowspan="2"> </td> <td style="font-size: x-large; padding: 0; vertical-align: middle; height: 1.1em;"><b>The Special Barnstar</b> </td></tr> <tr> <td style="vertical-align: middle; border-top: 1px solid gray;">Thank you for removing a lot of spam links!!! <a href="/wiki/User:Hajoon0102" title="User:Hajoon0102"><span style="text-shadow: 3px 2px 4px blue; color: black;">Hajoon0102</span></a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Hajoon0102" title="User talk:Hajoon0102">💬</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-Hajoon0102-20230322031600-A_barnstar_for_you!" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">03:16, 22 March 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Hajoon0102-20230322031600-A_barnstar_for_you!"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Hajoon0102-20230322031600-A_barnstar_for_you!"></span> </td></tr></tbody></table> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="About_Rujak" data-mw-thread-id="h-About_Rujak-20230325015700"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-About_Rujak-20230325015700"></span>About Rujak<span data-mw-comment-end="h-About_Rujak-20230325015700"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Arif_doudo-20230325015700-About_Rujak"></span>Hello @<a href="/wiki/User:MrOllie" class="mw-redirect" title="User:MrOllie">MrOllie</a> we need to revert the page "rujak" to its original spelling. Thanks <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Arif_doudo&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Arif doudo (page does not exist)">Arif doudo</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Arif_doudo" title="User talk:Arif doudo">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-Arif_doudo-20230325015700-About_Rujak" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">01:57, 25 March 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Arif_doudo-20230325015700-About_Rujak"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Arif_doudo-20230325015700-About_Rujak"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-MrOllie-20230325021600-Arif_doudo-20230325015700"></span>No. You don't move articles by cutting and pasting, and you have been deleting things at random as well. Stop. <a href="/wiki/User:MrOllie" class="mw-redirect" title="User:MrOllie">MrOllie</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie#top" title="User talk:MrOllie">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-MrOllie-20230325021600-Arif_doudo-20230325015700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">02:16, 25 March 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-MrOllie-20230325021600-Arif_doudo-20230325015700"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-MrOllie-20230325021600-Arif_doudo-20230325015700"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="So_I_can_just_claim..." data-mw-thread-id="h-So_I_can_just_claim...-20230329151200"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-So_I_can_just_claim...-20230329151200"></span>So I can just claim...<span data-mw-comment-end="h-So_I_can_just_claim...-20230329151200"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-PaUZz_LYte-20230329151200-So_I_can_just_claim..."></span>I read in a book today at the library and it said: Aristotle said thatBatman was proclaimed king after Codrus? Obviously not, you need legitimate sources not just proclaimations. <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:PaUZz_LYte&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:PaUZz LYte (page does not exist)">PaUZz LYte</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:PaUZz_LYte" title="User talk:PaUZz LYte">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-PaUZz_LYte-20230329151200-So_I_can_just_claim..." class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:12, 29 March 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-PaUZz_LYte-20230329151200-So_I_can_just_claim..."></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-PaUZz_LYte-20230329151200-So_I_can_just_claim..."></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-PaUZz_LYte-20230329151700-PaUZz_LYte-20230329151200"></span>Thats how that user and i got in this mess in the first place. Wild proclamations with no acutal evidence. By your logic I can say i read in the constitution that Batman made a claim that its our constitutional right to poop on the white house lawn and just simply citate the constitution as evidence? Lol no. <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:PaUZz_LYte&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:PaUZz LYte (page does not exist)">PaUZz LYte</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:PaUZz_LYte" title="User talk:PaUZz LYte">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-PaUZz_LYte-20230329151700-PaUZz_LYte-20230329151200" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:17, 29 March 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-PaUZz_LYte-20230329151700-PaUZz_LYte-20230329151200"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-PaUZz_LYte-20230329151700-PaUZz_LYte-20230329151200"></span> <dl><dd><span style="font-size:smaller;"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Sundayclose-20230329152600-PaUZz_LYte-20230329151700"></span>(<a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Talk_page_stalker" title="Wikipedia:Talk page stalker">talk page stalker</a>)</span><span class="template-ping">@<a href="/w/index.php?title=User:PaUZz_LYte&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:PaUZz LYte (page does not exist)">PaUZz LYte</a>:</span> <b>Read</b> <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:RS" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:RS">WP:RS</a> and <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:CITE" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:CITE">WP:CITE</a> before continuing to waste everyone's time. <a href="/wiki/User:Sundayclose" title="User:Sundayclose">Sundayclose</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Sundayclose" title="User talk:Sundayclose">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-Sundayclose-20230329152600-PaUZz_LYte-20230329151700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:26, 29 March 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Sundayclose-20230329152600-PaUZz_LYte-20230329151700"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Sundayclose-20230329152600-PaUZz_LYte-20230329151700"></span></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-MrOllie-20230329152700-PaUZz_LYte-20230329151700"></span>Books are 'actual evidence'. If you lied about what you found in a book, you'd simply be banned from Wikipedia. <a href="/wiki/User:MrOllie" class="mw-redirect" title="User:MrOllie">MrOllie</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie#top" title="User talk:MrOllie">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-MrOllie-20230329152700-PaUZz_LYte-20230329151700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:27, 29 March 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-MrOllie-20230329152700-PaUZz_LYte-20230329151700"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-MrOllie-20230329152700-PaUZz_LYte-20230329151700"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-PaUZz_LYte-20230329153000-MrOllie-20230329152700"></span>Books are absolutely actual evidence. People claiming this or that is within them on the other hand, with no evidence, not so much. Well, not at all actually. <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:PaUZz_LYte&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:PaUZz LYte (page does not exist)">PaUZz LYte</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:PaUZz_LYte" title="User talk:PaUZz LYte">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-PaUZz_LYte-20230329153000-MrOllie-20230329152700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:30, 29 March 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-PaUZz_LYte-20230329153000-MrOllie-20230329152700"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-PaUZz_LYte-20230329153000-MrOllie-20230329152700"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-MrOllie-20230329153400-PaUZz_LYte-20230329153000"></span>No. See <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Offline_sources" title="Wikipedia:Offline sources">Wikipedia:Offline sources</a>. If you delete any more sources based on that faulty argument, I expect that you will be blocked. Honestly, based on the display at ANI, you might get blocked either way. <a href="/wiki/User:MrOllie" class="mw-redirect" title="User:MrOllie">MrOllie</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie#top" title="User talk:MrOllie">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-MrOllie-20230329153400-PaUZz_LYte-20230329153000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:34, 29 March 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-MrOllie-20230329153400-PaUZz_LYte-20230329153000"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-MrOllie-20230329153400-PaUZz_LYte-20230329153000"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-PaUZz_LYte-20230329154200-MrOllie-20230329153400"></span>"Its content is determined by previously published information rather than editors' beliefs, opinions, or experiences." If you delete anymore sources with YOUR logic then yes you'll absolutely be blocked. <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:PaUZz_LYte&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:PaUZz LYte (page does not exist)">PaUZz LYte</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:PaUZz_LYte" title="User talk:PaUZz LYte">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-PaUZz_LYte-20230329154200-MrOllie-20230329153400" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:42, 29 March 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-PaUZz_LYte-20230329154200-MrOllie-20230329153400"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-PaUZz_LYte-20230329154200-MrOllie-20230329153400"></span></dd> <dd><span style="font-size:smaller;"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Bishonen-20230329155200-MrOllie-20230329153400"></span>(<a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Talk_page_stalker" title="Wikipedia:Talk page stalker">talk page stalker</a>)</span> I have warned <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:PaUZz_LYte&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:PaUZz LYte (page does not exist)">PaUZz LYte</a> to stop posting here. <a href="/wiki/User:Bishonen" title="User:Bishonen">Bishonen</a> | <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Bishonen" title="User talk:Bishonen">tålk</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-Bishonen-20230329155200-MrOllie-20230329153400" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:52, 29 March 2023 (UTC)</a>.<span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Bishonen-20230329155200-MrOllie-20230329153400"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Bishonen-20230329155200-MrOllie-20230329153400"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="A_barnstar_for_you!_2" data-mw-thread-id="h-A_barnstar_for_you!_2-20230331195500"><span id="A_barnstar_for_you.21_2"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-A_barnstar_for_you!_2-20230331195500"></span>A barnstar for you!<span data-mw-comment-end="h-A_barnstar_for_you!_2-20230331195500"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <table style="background-color: #fdffe7; border: 1px solid #fceb92;"> <tbody><tr> <td rowspan="2" style="vertical-align: middle; padding: 5px;"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-ToBeFree-20230331195500-A_barnstar_for_you!_2"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:WikiDefender_Barnstar_Hires.png" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/e4/WikiDefender_Barnstar_Hires.png/100px-WikiDefender_Barnstar_Hires.png" decoding="async" width="100" height="95" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/e4/WikiDefender_Barnstar_Hires.png/150px-WikiDefender_Barnstar_Hires.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/e4/WikiDefender_Barnstar_Hires.png/200px-WikiDefender_Barnstar_Hires.png 2x" data-file-width="2000" data-file-height="1900"/></a></span> </td> <td style="font-size: x-large; padding: 3px 3px 0 3px; height: 1.5em;"><b>The Defender of the Wiki Barnstar</b> </td></tr> <tr> <td style="vertical-align: middle; padding: 3px;">Thank you very much, <a href="/wiki/User:MrOllie" class="mw-redirect" title="User:MrOllie">MrOllie</a>, for detecting and reverting citation spam. <a href="/wiki/User:ToBeFree" title="User:ToBeFree">~ ToBeFree</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:ToBeFree" title="User talk:ToBeFree">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-ToBeFree-20230331195500-A_barnstar_for_you!_2" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:55, 31 March 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-ToBeFree-20230331195500-A_barnstar_for_you!_2"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-ToBeFree-20230331195500-A_barnstar_for_you!_2"></span> </td></tr></tbody></table> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Sundayclose-20230331220600-ToBeFree-20230331195500"></span>I'll add my thanks! <a href="/wiki/User:Sundayclose" title="User:Sundayclose">Sundayclose</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Sundayclose" title="User talk:Sundayclose">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-Sundayclose-20230331220600-ToBeFree-20230331195500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:06, 31 March 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Sundayclose-20230331220600-ToBeFree-20230331195500"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Sundayclose-20230331220600-ToBeFree-20230331195500"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Food_Studies_page" data-mw-thread-id="h-Food_Studies_page-20230402082500"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Food_Studies_page-20230402082500"></span>Food Studies page<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Food_Studies_page-20230402082500"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Jmallenfood-20230402082500-Food_Studies_page"></span>Curious as to how this can be made to work - I totally understand your point about advertising / soapboxing, but think the institutions researching the subject are important. The rest of the information on this page has been generated by research institutions. I would love to be able to work with you to rectify this. Thank you. <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Jmallenfood&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Jmallenfood (page does not exist)">Jmallenfood</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Jmallenfood" title="User talk:Jmallenfood">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-Jmallenfood-20230402082500-Food_Studies_page" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">08:25, 2 April 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Jmallenfood-20230402082500-Food_Studies_page"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Jmallenfood-20230402082500-Food_Studies_page"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-MrOllie-20230402235500-Jmallenfood-20230402082500"></span>Can you explain what your connection to the University of Exeter is? <a href="/wiki/User:MrOllie" class="mw-redirect" title="User:MrOllie">MrOllie</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie#top" title="User talk:MrOllie">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-MrOllie-20230402235500-Jmallenfood-20230402082500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:55, 2 April 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-MrOllie-20230402235500-Jmallenfood-20230402082500"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-MrOllie-20230402235500-Jmallenfood-20230402082500"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Jmallenfood-20230403080700-MrOllie-20230402235500"></span>Sure, I was a student there. <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Jmallenfood&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Jmallenfood (page does not exist)">Jmallenfood</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Jmallenfood" title="User talk:Jmallenfood">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-Jmallenfood-20230403080700-MrOllie-20230402235500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">08:07, 3 April 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Jmallenfood-20230403080700-MrOllie-20230402235500"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Jmallenfood-20230403080700-MrOllie-20230402235500"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Software_Modernization_page" data-mw-thread-id="h-Software_Modernization_page-20230403052200"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Software_Modernization_page-20230403052200"></span>Software Modernization page<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Software_Modernization_page-20230403052200"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><a class="external free" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Software_modernization"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Kumaran66-20230403052200-Software_Modernization_page"></span>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Software_modernization</a> Cloud Migration options have moved from 5R's to 6R's. It needs to be updated under the Modernization Options. I tried changing it but my changes were rejected. Here is an article on the latest approach <a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="https://kumaran.com/blogs/birds-eye-view-of-software-modernization/">https://kumaran.com/blogs/birds-eye-view-of-software-modernization/</a>. Let me know about please. <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Kumaran66&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Kumaran66 (page does not exist)">Kumaran66</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Kumaran66" title="User talk:Kumaran66">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-Kumaran66-20230403052200-Software_Modernization_page" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">05:22, 3 April 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Kumaran66-20230403052200-Software_Modernization_page"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Kumaran66-20230403052200-Software_Modernization_page"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-MrOllie-20230403124300-Kumaran66-20230403052200"></span>We cannot use your blog as a source. <a href="/wiki/User:MrOllie" class="mw-redirect" title="User:MrOllie">MrOllie</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie#top" title="User talk:MrOllie">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-MrOllie-20230403124300-Kumaran66-20230403052200" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:43, 3 April 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-MrOllie-20230403124300-Kumaran66-20230403052200"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-MrOllie-20230403124300-Kumaran66-20230403052200"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Reinforcement_Theory_(OB_Mod)" data-mw-thread-id="h-Reinforcement_Theory_(OB_Mod)-20230403132900"><span id="Reinforcement_Theory_.28OB_Mod.29"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Reinforcement_Theory_(OB_Mod)-20230403132900"></span>Reinforcement Theory (OB Mod)<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Reinforcement_Theory_(OB_Mod)-20230403132900"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-JRKWBS-20230403132900-Reinforcement_Theory_(OB_Mod)"></span>Hello, I am seeking to understand why you removed my update in OB MOD section with the reasoning/justification as more Stajkovic citespam? Literature for the work and evidence was provided and is readily available online and published in journals. <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:JRKWBS&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:JRKWBS (page does not exist)">JRKWBS</a> (<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:JRKWBS&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:JRKWBS (page does not exist)">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-JRKWBS-20230403132900-Reinforcement_Theory_(OB_Mod)" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:29, 3 April 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-JRKWBS-20230403132900-Reinforcement_Theory_(OB_Mod)"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-JRKWBS-20230403132900-Reinforcement_Theory_(OB_Mod)"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-MrOllie-20230403133200-JRKWBS-20230403132900"></span>Can you explain your connection to Stajkovic or Luthans? <a href="/wiki/User:MrOllie" class="mw-redirect" title="User:MrOllie">MrOllie</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie#top" title="User talk:MrOllie">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-MrOllie-20230403133200-JRKWBS-20230403132900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:32, 3 April 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-MrOllie-20230403133200-JRKWBS-20230403132900"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-MrOllie-20230403133200-JRKWBS-20230403132900"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-JRKWBS-20230403134000-MrOllie-20230403133200"></span>I took a class by professor Stajkovic. I do not work for the University. I found the topic specific to OB Mod to under supported on Wiki thus the addition and citation specific to OB Mod with supporting literature. <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:JRKWBS&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:JRKWBS (page does not exist)">JRKWBS</a> (<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:JRKWBS&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:JRKWBS (page does not exist)">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-JRKWBS-20230403134000-MrOllie-20230403133200" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:40, 3 April 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-JRKWBS-20230403134000-MrOllie-20230403133200"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-JRKWBS-20230403134000-MrOllie-20230403133200"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-MrOllie-20230403140900-JRKWBS-20230403134000"></span>As a person with a <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:COI" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:COI">WP:COI</a> you shouldn't be adding this. There has been a long term campaign of <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:SPA" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:SPA">single purpose accounts</a> adding references to Stajkovic, and it has to stop. Wikipedia isn't a place to promote a particular person or their work. <a href="/wiki/User:MrOllie" class="mw-redirect" title="User:MrOllie">MrOllie</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie#top" title="User talk:MrOllie">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-MrOllie-20230403140900-JRKWBS-20230403134000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:09, 3 April 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-MrOllie-20230403140900-JRKWBS-20230403134000"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-MrOllie-20230403140900-JRKWBS-20230403134000"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-JRKWBS-20230403171100-MrOllie-20230403140900"></span>I am trying to understand this better and learn. In reading the links you shared, you are saying that I have a conflict of interest since my very first post is considered to be associated with long term campaign data? The relationship disclosure is simply that I took the class. And because of this, regardless of the scientific data or scientific journals to support the post that I attempted, the entry is not acceptable? How is Wikipedia in general not promoting work of individuals or groups of individuals that contribute to a specific area research or expertise? This statement is contradicting on the basis of how knowledge is cultivated and created, and apparently shared or censored. This basis for this type of judgement causes damage to the reputation of Wikipedia. <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:JRKWBS&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:JRKWBS (page does not exist)">JRKWBS</a> (<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:JRKWBS&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:JRKWBS (page does not exist)">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-JRKWBS-20230403171100-MrOllie-20230403140900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:11, 3 April 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-JRKWBS-20230403171100-MrOllie-20230403140900"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-JRKWBS-20230403171100-MrOllie-20230403140900"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Male_Gaze_Article_Section:_Question" data-mw-thread-id="h-Male_Gaze_Article_Section:_Question-20230403183400"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Male_Gaze_Article_Section:_Question-20230403183400"></span>Male Gaze Article Section: Question<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Male_Gaze_Article_Section:_Question-20230403183400"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Aliahguzmanceja-20230403183400-Male_Gaze_Article_Section:_Question"></span>Hi Mr Ollie, </p><p>I did notice you removed my section from the Male Gaze article. Wondering if I could get some clarity? I don't believe it's opinionated to say the male gaze definitely has some influence on heterosexual pornography. If you could even maybe help me rewrite it I would love input. thank you <a href="/wiki/User:Aliahguzmanceja" title="User:Aliahguzmanceja">Aliahguzmanceja</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Aliahguzmanceja" title="User talk:Aliahguzmanceja">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-Aliahguzmanceja-20230403183400-Male_Gaze_Article_Section:_Question" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:34, 3 April 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Aliahguzmanceja-20230403183400-Male_Gaze_Article_Section:_Question"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Aliahguzmanceja-20230403183400-Male_Gaze_Article_Section:_Question"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-MrOllie-20230403184100-Aliahguzmanceja-20230403183400"></span>You wrote what sounds like a college essay, making claims about what is important, relevant, and so on. Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, not a place to host essays. <a href="/wiki/User:MrOllie" class="mw-redirect" title="User:MrOllie">MrOllie</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie#top" title="User talk:MrOllie">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-MrOllie-20230403184100-Aliahguzmanceja-20230403183400" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:41, 3 April 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-MrOllie-20230403184100-Aliahguzmanceja-20230403183400"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-MrOllie-20230403184100-Aliahguzmanceja-20230403183400"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Aliahguzmanceja-20230403184800-MrOllie-20230403184100"></span>can you perhaps offer some help and examples on how to write about the male gazes effects on heterosexual pornography in a manner that wouldn't result in the removal of it? <a href="/wiki/User:Aliahguzmanceja" title="User:Aliahguzmanceja">Aliahguzmanceja</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Aliahguzmanceja" title="User talk:Aliahguzmanceja">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-Aliahguzmanceja-20230403184800-MrOllie-20230403184100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:48, 3 April 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Aliahguzmanceja-20230403184800-MrOllie-20230403184100"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Aliahguzmanceja-20230403184800-MrOllie-20230403184100"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-MrOllie-20230403185100-Aliahguzmanceja-20230403184800"></span>Based on the single source that has been provided, I don't really believe such a section is warranted, so I don't think that would be a good use of my time. If you have general questions you should direct them to <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:TEAHOUSE" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:TEAHOUSE">WP:TEAHOUSE</a>, or if you want to discuss the article further you can do so at its associated talk page. <a href="/wiki/User:MrOllie" class="mw-redirect" title="User:MrOllie">MrOllie</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie#top" title="User talk:MrOllie">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-MrOllie-20230403185100-Aliahguzmanceja-20230403184800" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:51, 3 April 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-MrOllie-20230403185100-Aliahguzmanceja-20230403184800"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-MrOllie-20230403185100-Aliahguzmanceja-20230403184800"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Race_and_Intelligence:_Question" data-mw-thread-id="h-Race_and_Intelligence:_Question-20230404161300"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Race_and_Intelligence:_Question-20230404161300"></span>Race and Intelligence: Question<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Race_and_Intelligence:_Question-20230404161300"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Bshope-20230404161300-Race_and_Intelligence:_Question"></span>Hey, what's up? I removed a section claiming a "scientific consensus" with no citation. </p><p>I also added a map that shows folks geographic distributions of measured IQ - highly relevant to the topic. Not sure why you called it "fringe" </p><p><a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Bshope&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Bshope (page does not exist)">Brandon</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Bshope" title="User talk:Bshope">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-Bshope-20230404161300-Race_and_Intelligence:_Question" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:13, 4 April 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Bshope-20230404161300-Race_and_Intelligence:_Question"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Bshope-20230404161300-Race_and_Intelligence:_Question"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-MrOllie-20230404161500-Bshope-20230404161300"></span>Citations are in the body of the article. Take it up on the article talk page, but be advised that there is a Wikipedia-wide consensus here, and the chances of adding the output of somebody like <a href="/wiki/Richard_Lynn" title="Richard Lynn">Richard Lynn</a> is effectively zero. <a href="/wiki/User:MrOllie" class="mw-redirect" title="User:MrOllie">MrOllie</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie#top" title="User talk:MrOllie">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-MrOllie-20230404161500-Bshope-20230404161300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:15, 4 April 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-MrOllie-20230404161500-Bshope-20230404161300"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-MrOllie-20230404161500-Bshope-20230404161300"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Bshope-20230404162100-MrOllie-20230404161500"></span>alrighty I'll separate any neutrality changes and discuss the merits of the image separately. we wouldn't want to throw out the data because some folks don't like the researcher <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Bshope&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Bshope (page does not exist)">Brandon</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Bshope" title="User talk:Bshope">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-Bshope-20230404162100-MrOllie-20230404161500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:21, 4 April 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Bshope-20230404162100-MrOllie-20230404161500"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Bshope-20230404162100-MrOllie-20230404161500"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-MrOllie-20230404162300-Bshope-20230404162100"></span>Folks 'don't like the researcher' because his research methods are simply awful, and misrepresenting scientific consensus is not a 'neutrality change'. <a href="/wiki/User:MrOllie" class="mw-redirect" title="User:MrOllie">MrOllie</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie#top" title="User talk:MrOllie">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-MrOllie-20230404162300-Bshope-20230404162100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:23, 4 April 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-MrOllie-20230404162300-Bshope-20230404162100"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-MrOllie-20230404162300-Bshope-20230404162100"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Dragon_curve_in_Python" data-mw-thread-id="h-Dragon_curve_in_Python-20230404170900"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Dragon_curve_in_Python-20230404170900"></span>Dragon curve in Python<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Dragon_curve_in_Python-20230404170900"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Rubixmann-20230404170900-Dragon_curve_in_Python"></span>Hi, can you please clarify what you mean by this <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Dragon_curve&oldid=1148187197#Python">new section</a> being “redundant”? </p><p>Firstly, there is no example code implementation of constructing a dragon curve anywhere on the page, in any (programming) language. If there were, I might understand the “redundant” tag (though not necessarily, see below re: Gosper curve and Logo). Other famous space-filling/fractal curves also have code implementations: <a class="external free" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sierpiński_curve#Code">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sierpiński_curve#Code</a> <a class="external free" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lévy_C_curve#Sample_Implementation_of_Levy_C_Curve">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lévy_C_curve#Sample_Implementation_of_Levy_C_Curve</a> </p><p>Secondly, it is not obvious or intuitive, especially for beginner programmers (to whom this section is aimed), how to translate the description of the construction into a recursive function definition. I believe including this short section has much instructional value, without detracting from the reading experience in any way. Moreover, including a link to code that can be tinkered and experimented with aids with understanding in a way that static text or graphics cannot, allowing one to truly “feel” the connection between fractals and recursion. </p><p>Third and finally, this section is directly inspired by a corresponding section for the Gosper curve <a href="/wiki/Gosper_curve#Python" title="Gosper curve">here</a>, and I don’t see anyone removing that for being “redundant”, despite it being even more closely repeating the Lindenmayer system section than anything my section repeats, and there already being an implementation in another language Logo immediately prior. Nevertheless, the code differ significantly, and again, the link to interactive Python code that runs directly in the browser (not available with Logo) is very valuable. </p><p>It’s use-cases like these that make Wikipedia so much more dynamic and powerful as a learning tool than any traditional encyclopedia. To insist on reducing Wikipedia to merely a reference book is counter to the spirit and ultimate goal of disseminating knowledge that belies the Wikipedia project. I appreciate that work must be done to maintain the quality of the content, and I applaud and thank you for your efforts to that end. However, I must respectfully disagree that this is not a case where such work is needed. </p><p><a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Rubixmann&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Rubixmann (page does not exist)">Rubixmann</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Rubixmann" title="User talk:Rubixmann">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-Rubixmann-20230404170900-Dragon_curve_in_Python" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:09, 4 April 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Rubixmann-20230404170900-Dragon_curve_in_Python"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Rubixmann-20230404170900-Dragon_curve_in_Python"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-MrOllie-20230404171900-Rubixmann-20230404170900"></span>It is redundant with the description of the curve itself, and it was unsourced - Wikipedia isn't a place to host code you've written. As to other articles, see <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:OTHERSTUFF" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:OTHERSTUFF">WP:OTHERSTUFF</a> - it could well be that that code should be removed rather than more added on other articles. - <a href="/wiki/User:MrOllie" class="mw-redirect" title="User:MrOllie">MrOllie</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie#top" title="User talk:MrOllie">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-MrOllie-20230404171900-Rubixmann-20230404170900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:19, 4 April 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-MrOllie-20230404171900-Rubixmann-20230404170900"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-MrOllie-20230404171900-Rubixmann-20230404170900"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-47.152.157.10-20230404173000-MrOllie-20230404171900"></span>@ <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/47.152.157.10" title="Special:Contributions/47.152.157.10">47.152.157.10</a> (<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:47.152.157.10&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:47.152.157.10 (page does not exist)">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-47.152.157.10-20230404173000-MrOllie-20230404171900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:30, 4 April 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-47.152.157.10-20230404173000-MrOllie-20230404171900"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-47.152.157.10-20230404173000-MrOllie-20230404171900"></span></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Rubixmann-20230404205800-MrOllie-20230404171900"></span>The description of the curve as it stands is manifestly opaque, especially with the grammatical error: “alternatively”, meaning “on the other hand, as another option/possibility”, should most likely be “alternately” or (the less standard) “alternatingly”.</dd> <dd>This is exacerbated by the fact that on 13-14 March 2021, <a href="/wiki/User:David_Eppstein" title="User:David Eppstein">User:David Eppstein</a> <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?diff=1012013818&oldid=1011817656&title=Dragon_curve&diffmode=source">deleted</a> a good deal of what looked like useful content. In particular, this included the precise, mathematical Lindenmayer system description of the curve from the Construction section, which is both mentioned in the lead section (so one would naturally expect it to be given later), and still present for the other curve variants on the page, namely Twindragon and Terdragon (as well as many other pages on fractals, the relevance of which as an argument shall now be discussed).</dd> <dd>As to <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:OTHERSTUFF" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:OTHERSTUFF">WP:OTHERSTUFF</a> (ignoring the fact that that applies to deleting articles, not sections therein, which is covered in <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:OTHERCONTENT" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:OTHERCONTENT">WP:OTHERCONTENT</a>): “While these comparisons are not a conclusive test, they may form <b>part of a cogent argument</b>; an entire comment should not be dismissed because it includes a comparative statement like this.” Moreover, see <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:SSEFAR" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:SSEFAR">WP:SSEFAR</a>: “…arguing in favor of consistency among Wikipedia articles is not inherently wrong–it is to be preferred. Only when the precedent is itself in conflict with policy, guidelines or common sense is it wrong to argue that the precedent should be followed elsewhere.” If you could point out specific Wikipedia policy or guidelines either implicitly or explicitly banning the inclusion of code (unsourced or otherwise) detailing the implementation of some algorithm or construction, I would be much obliged.</dd> <dd>In my opinion, the fact that the construction/algorithm itself is sourced means specific implementations in code need not be, as is the case for all code/pseudocode found on Wikipedia. See e.g. <a href="/wiki/Binary_search_algorithm#Algorithm" class="mw-redirect" title="Binary search algorithm">Binary search algorithm#Algorithm</a> (Note: this is a Featured Page, and according to <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:OTHERSTUFF" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:OTHERSTUFF">WP:OTHERSTUFF</a>: “While comparing with other articles is not, in general, a convincing argument, comparing with articles … such as <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Featured_article" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:Featured article">Featured article[s]</a> … makes a much more credible case.” To use a blanket over-generalization like “Wikipedia isn’t a place to host code” in light of the above comes across as flippant, and adding the “you’ve written” part seems disingenuous, since it’s not the fact that <i>I</i> wrote it that’s the issue is it, after all, isn’t all content on Wikipedia (in theory) written by contributors like you and me?</dd> <dd>Ultimately, “Whether a given instance of something can serve as a precedent for some other instance must be decided by way of <b><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:CONSENSUS" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:CONSENSUS">consensus</a></b>.” The question of whether code should or should not be a part of these pages is very much subject to discussion. As you said, it may well be that other code should removed, but it may also be that code should be added to other pages. But either way, it is absolutely NOT your prerogative to unilaterally delete any such content without discussion. To use a more illustrative example, would you go and delete 90% of <a href="/wiki/Barnsley_fern" title="Barnsley fern">Barnsley fern</a>, with its dozen or so code examples, none of which are sourced, simply because you believe they are all “redundant” with the Construction or Computer generation section?</dd> <dd>I hope others, including Prof. Eppstein, might weigh in on all this, including the other arguments in my original comment. But the question of code aside, I strongly believe that at least the L-system description should be put back. This is not an addition, it is merely restoring the section to a former more complete state and for the article to be more self-consistent.</dd> <dd><a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Rubixmann&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Rubixmann (page does not exist)">Rubixmann</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Rubixmann" title="User talk:Rubixmann">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-Rubixmann-20230404205800-MrOllie-20230404171900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:58, 4 April 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Rubixmann-20230404205800-MrOllie-20230404171900"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Rubixmann-20230404205800-MrOllie-20230404171900"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-MrOllie-20230404210600-Rubixmann-20230404205800"></span>All this discussion belongs on the article's associated talk page, since other editors will probably wish to weigh in. Take it up there rather than here. I will note, though, that is absolutely IS my prerogative to unilaterally delete unsourced text without discussion, see <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:V" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:V">WP:V</a> and <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:NOR" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:NOR">WP:NOR</a>. <a href="/wiki/User:MrOllie" class="mw-redirect" title="User:MrOllie">MrOllie</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie#top" title="User talk:MrOllie">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-MrOllie-20230404210600-Rubixmann-20230404205800" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:06, 4 April 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-MrOllie-20230404210600-Rubixmann-20230404205800"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-MrOllie-20230404210600-Rubixmann-20230404205800"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Rubixmann-20230404222500-MrOllie-20230404210600"></span>I’ve copied our above discussion to the article’s talk page, there was a bit of confusion on my part, hence the reverts, sorry about that.</dd> <dd>By the way, though I assume good faith and that you meant no ill will, I will just politely mention <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:BITE" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:BITE">WP:BITE</a>. <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Rubixmann&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Rubixmann (page does not exist)">Rubixmann</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Rubixmann" title="User talk:Rubixmann">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-Rubixmann-20230404222500-MrOllie-20230404210600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:25, 4 April 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Rubixmann-20230404222500-MrOllie-20230404210600"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Rubixmann-20230404222500-MrOllie-20230404210600"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="ANI" data-mw-thread-id="h-ANI-20230405200700"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-ANI-20230405200700"></span>ANI<span data-mw-comment-end="h-ANI-20230405200700"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Rock_Stone_Gold_Castle-20230405200700-ANI"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img alt="Information icon" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/1/1d/Information_icon4.svg/25px-Information_icon4.svg.png" decoding="async" width="25" height="25" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/1/1d/Information_icon4.svg/38px-Information_icon4.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/1/1d/Information_icon4.svg/50px-Information_icon4.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="620" data-file-height="620"/></span></span> There is currently a discussion at <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/Incidents" title="Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents">Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents</a> regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Thank you. <a href="/wiki/User:Rock_Stone_Gold_Castle" title="User:Rock Stone Gold Castle">Rock Stone Gold Castle</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Rock_Stone_Gold_Castle" title="User talk:Rock Stone Gold Castle">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-Rock_Stone_Gold_Castle-20230405200700-ANI" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:07, 5 April 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Rock_Stone_Gold_Castle-20230405200700-ANI"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Rock_Stone_Gold_Castle-20230405200700-ANI"></span> </p><p><br/> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Discussion_regarding_edits_on_Bundelkhand_and_Khangar_(community)_pages" data-mw-thread-id="h-Discussion_regarding_edits_on_Bundelkhand_and_Khangar_(community)_pages-20230407065800"><span id="Discussion_regarding_edits_on_Bundelkhand_and_Khangar_.28community.29_pages"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Discussion_regarding_edits_on_Bundelkhand_and_Khangar_(community)_pages-20230407065800"></span>Discussion regarding edits on Bundelkhand and Khangar (community) pages<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Discussion_regarding_edits_on_Bundelkhand_and_Khangar_(community)_pages-20230407065800"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Python2019-20230407065800-Discussion_regarding_edits_on_Bundelkhand_and_Khangar_(community)_pages"></span>Hello <a href="/wiki/User:MrOllie" class="mw-redirect" title="User:MrOllie">MrOllie</a>, </p><p>I would like to discuss the recent edits made on the <a href="/wiki/Bundelkhand" title="Bundelkhand">Bundelkhand</a> and <a href="/wiki/Khangar_(community)" title="Khangar (community)">Khangar Community</a> pages. I have ensured that the content I added is in line with Wikipedia's <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Neutral_point_of_view" title="Wikipedia:Neutral point of view">Neutral Point of View</a> guidelines and is supported by reliable sources. Here are the links to my edits: </p> <ul><li><a href="/wiki/Bundelkhand" title="Bundelkhand">Bundelkhand</a>: <a class="external autonumber" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Bundelkhand&diff=next&oldid=1148451083&diffmode=source">[6]</a></li> <li><a href="/wiki/Khangar_(community)" title="Khangar (community)">Khangar Community</a>: <a class="external autonumber" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Khangar_%28community%29&diff=prev&oldid=1148477122&diffmode=source">[7]</a></li></ul> <p>I would appreciate it if you could provide more specific feedback on why you consider these edits "blatantly non-neutral." Moreover, I believe that threatening to block me is not in line with Wikipedia's <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Blocking_policy" title="Wikipedia:Blocking policy">Blocking Policy</a>, and engaging in an edit war is not constructive for the community, as stated in the <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Edit_warring" title="Wikipedia:Edit warring">Edit Warring Policy</a>. I am open to discussing these matters further and finding a solution that adheres to Wikipedia's policies. </p><p><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Nuvola_apps_important.svg" class="mw-file-description"><img alt="Warning icon" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/f/f7/Nuvola_apps_important.svg/25px-Nuvola_apps_important.svg.png" decoding="async" width="25" height="21" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/f/f7/Nuvola_apps_important.svg/38px-Nuvola_apps_important.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/f/f7/Nuvola_apps_important.svg/50px-Nuvola_apps_important.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="600" data-file-height="500"/></a></span> Please consider this message as high priority. </p><p>Thank you for your understanding. </p><p>Best regards, <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Python2019&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Python2019 (page does not exist)">Python2019‬</a> <small class="autosigned">— Preceding <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Signatures" title="Wikipedia:Signatures">unsigned</a> comment added by <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Python2019&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Python2019 (page does not exist)">Python2019</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Python2019#top" title="User talk:Python2019">talk</a> • <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Python2019" title="Special:Contributions/Python2019">contribs</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-Python2019-20230407065800-Discussion_regarding_edits_on_Bundelkhand_and_Khangar_(community)_pages" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">06:58, 7 April 2023 (UTC)</a></small><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Python2019-20230407065800-Discussion_regarding_edits_on_Bundelkhand_and_Khangar_(community)_pages"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Python2019-20230407065800-Discussion_regarding_edits_on_Bundelkhand_and_Khangar_(community)_pages"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="EMDR" data-mw-thread-id="h-EMDR-20230408213400"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-EMDR-20230408213400"></span>EMDR<span data-mw-comment-end="h-EMDR-20230408213400"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-JCJC777-20230408213400-EMDR"></span>do you really think the few fringe "pseudoscience" people know more than the WHO, NICE, etc etc? <a href="/wiki/User:JCJC777" title="User:JCJC777">JCJC777</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:JCJC777" title="User talk:JCJC777">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-JCJC777-20230408213400-EMDR" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:34, 8 April 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-JCJC777-20230408213400-EMDR"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-JCJC777-20230408213400-EMDR"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-MrOllie-20230408213500-JCJC777-20230408213400"></span>This has been addressed over and over at the article talk page, where such discussion belongs. Keep it there. <a href="/wiki/User:MrOllie" class="mw-redirect" title="User:MrOllie">MrOllie</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie#top" title="User talk:MrOllie">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-MrOllie-20230408213500-JCJC777-20230408213400" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:35, 8 April 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-MrOllie-20230408213500-JCJC777-20230408213400"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-MrOllie-20230408213500-JCJC777-20230408213400"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-JCJC777-20230408214500-MrOllie-20230408213500"></span>sadly the fringe pseudoscience people are damaging wiki credibility here. the article does not portray the mainstream recommendation of this treatment for PTSD.</dd> <dd>if wiki can be hijacked this easily it both reduces my view if wiki article value and my motivation to try to help maie wiki better.</dd> <dd>it appears you side with them and/or are not brave enough to show leadership. <a href="/wiki/User:JCJC777" title="User:JCJC777">JCJC777</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:JCJC777" title="User talk:JCJC777">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-JCJC777-20230408214500-MrOllie-20230408213500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:45, 8 April 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-JCJC777-20230408214500-MrOllie-20230408213500"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-JCJC777-20230408214500-MrOllie-20230408213500"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-MrOllie-20230408214700-JCJC777-20230408214500"></span>Coming on to people's user talk pages to personally attack them when they disagree with you is more likely to get you banned than to produce changes you would like in the article. <a href="/wiki/User:MrOllie" class="mw-redirect" title="User:MrOllie">MrOllie</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie#top" title="User talk:MrOllie">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-MrOllie-20230408214700-JCJC777-20230408214500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:47, 8 April 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-MrOllie-20230408214700-JCJC777-20230408214500"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-MrOllie-20230408214700-JCJC777-20230408214500"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-JCJC777-20230409002900-MrOllie-20230408214700"></span>I apologise for any elements of what I said that were personal attack rather than challenge.</dd> <dd>However I was stunned that, although sounding like a sensible person, you had</dd> <dd>reverted positive and well-supported edits, to go back to an unsupported, bias and poor earlier versi- a version on which misrepresents the situation and wilfully blocks people seeking help for PTSD from accessing something that many people find work</dd> <dd>Anyway apologies again.s. <a href="/wiki/User:JCJC777" title="User:JCJC777">JCJC777</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:JCJC777" title="User talk:JCJC777">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-JCJC777-20230409002900-MrOllie-20230408214700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:29, 9 April 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-JCJC777-20230409002900-MrOllie-20230408214700"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-JCJC777-20230409002900-MrOllie-20230408214700"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-MrOllie-20230409003000-JCJC777-20230409002900"></span>Making even more personal attacks is a funny way to apologise. <a href="/wiki/User:MrOllie" class="mw-redirect" title="User:MrOllie">MrOllie</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie#top" title="User talk:MrOllie">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-MrOllie-20230409003000-JCJC777-20230409002900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:30, 9 April 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-MrOllie-20230409003000-JCJC777-20230409002900"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-MrOllie-20230409003000-JCJC777-20230409002900"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-JCJC777-20230409003700-MrOllie-20230409003000"></span>yep fair enough.</dd> <dd>perhaps I'm misunderstanding thr purpose of wiki.</dd> <dd>go well. <a href="/wiki/User:JCJC777" title="User:JCJC777">JCJC777</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:JCJC777" title="User talk:JCJC777">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-JCJC777-20230409003700-MrOllie-20230409003000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:37, 9 April 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-JCJC777-20230409003700-MrOllie-20230409003000"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-JCJC777-20230409003700-MrOllie-20230409003000"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Not_faced_by_anyone_your_view" data-mw-thread-id="h-Not_faced_by_anyone_your_view-20230409005700"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Not_faced_by_anyone_your_view-20230409005700"></span>Not faced by anyone <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/IncidentArchive1112#Neotesla" title="Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/IncidentArchive1112">your view</a><span data-mw-comment-end="h-Not_faced_by_anyone_your_view-20230409005700"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Neotesla-20230409005700-Not_faced_by_anyone_your_view"></span>Hello MrOllie. Despite making detailed revisions and citing highly credible sources with strong social implementation as you suggested, I've been troubled by your abrupt revert. Please refrain from reverting without reading the content. Kindly review the edits made with great effort and make appropriate edits in line with the content. Please respond on the talk page as well.--<a href="/wiki/User:Neotesla" title="User:Neotesla">Neotesla</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Neotesla" title="User talk:Neotesla">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-Neotesla-20230409005700-Not_faced_by_anyone_your_view" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:57, 9 April 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Neotesla-20230409005700-Not_faced_by_anyone_your_view"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Neotesla-20230409005700-Not_faced_by_anyone_your_view"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-MrOllie-20230409005800-Neotesla-20230409005700"></span>I am going to guess at what you're trying to say, since this message is barely comprehensible English. I have read all the content, and I disagree with it. You know this, because it is not the first time we have discussed it. Your edit warring is not a fix for the numerous policy problems that have been explained to you. <a href="/wiki/User:MrOllie" class="mw-redirect" title="User:MrOllie">MrOllie</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie#top" title="User talk:MrOllie">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-MrOllie-20230409005800-Neotesla-20230409005700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:58, 9 April 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-MrOllie-20230409005800-Neotesla-20230409005700"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-MrOllie-20230409005800-Neotesla-20230409005700"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="No-Code_Development" data-mw-thread-id="h-No-Code_Development-20230412180700"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-No-Code_Development-20230412180700"></span>No-Code Development<span data-mw-comment-end="h-No-Code_Development-20230412180700"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Themdfarhan-20230412180700-No-Code_Development"></span>Dear MrOllie, </p><p>I am writing in regards to my recent edit to the <a href="/wiki/No-code_development_platform" title="No-code development platform">No-code development platform</a> page that was removed by you without any explanation. I am hoping to understand why my edit was removed and to find a resolution to this issue. </p><p>As a Wikipedia editor, I understand that accuracy and reliability are crucial to maintaining the integrity of the platform. However, I do believe that my edit was relevant, well-researched, and contributed positively to the page. </p><p>I would appreciate it if you could kindly explain why my edit was removed and provide any constructive feedback that could help me improve my contributions to the platform in the future. </p><p><br/> Thank you for your time and consideration in this matter. <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Themdfarhan&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Themdfarhan (page does not exist)">Themdfarhan</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Themdfarhan" title="User talk:Themdfarhan">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-Themdfarhan-20230412180700-No-Code_Development" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:07, 12 April 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Themdfarhan-20230412180700-No-Code_Development"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Themdfarhan-20230412180700-No-Code_Development"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-MrOllie-20230412181200-Themdfarhan-20230412180700"></span>I listed the relevant policy in my edit summary: <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:ELNO" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:ELNO">WP:ELNO</a>. Wikipedia isn't a link directory and your list of external links didn't belong on the article. - <a href="/wiki/User:MrOllie" class="mw-redirect" title="User:MrOllie">MrOllie</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie#top" title="User talk:MrOllie">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-MrOllie-20230412181200-Themdfarhan-20230412180700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:12, 12 April 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-MrOllie-20230412181200-Themdfarhan-20230412180700"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-MrOllie-20230412181200-Themdfarhan-20230412180700"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Themdfarhan-20230412181900-MrOllie-20230412181200"></span>Thank you for your prompt response. I appreciate your dedication to maintaining the accuracy and reliability of Wikipedia.</dd> <dd>I understand your concern about the links not belonging to the article. However, I believe that the event links I included were relevant to the topic and provided additional information that would be useful to readers.</dd> <dd>If there are specific guidelines or policies that I should follow when adding external links to Wikipedia, please let me know. I am always open to constructive feedback and learning how to improve my contributions to the platform. <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Themdfarhan&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Themdfarhan (page does not exist)">Themdfarhan</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Themdfarhan" title="User talk:Themdfarhan">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-Themdfarhan-20230412181900-MrOllie-20230412181200" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:19, 12 April 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Themdfarhan-20230412181900-MrOllie-20230412181200"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Themdfarhan-20230412181900-MrOllie-20230412181200"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-MrOllie-20230412182000-Themdfarhan-20230412181900"></span>Please explain your connection to the company Quixy and/or the events you're trying to list on the page. <a href="/wiki/User:MrOllie" class="mw-redirect" title="User:MrOllie">MrOllie</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie#top" title="User talk:MrOllie">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-MrOllie-20230412182000-Themdfarhan-20230412181900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:20, 12 April 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-MrOllie-20230412182000-Themdfarhan-20230412181900"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-MrOllie-20230412182000-Themdfarhan-20230412181900"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Themdfarhan-20230412182700-MrOllie-20230412182000"></span>Thank you for your follow-up question. I must disclose that I am affiliated with Quixy, and my edit was made in the interest of providing accurate and relevant information to the page's readers. However, I understand the importance of maintaining objectivity and avoiding conflicts of interest when contributing to Wikipedia. As such, I have taken great care to ensure that the information I provided is unbiased. As no-code evangelist I still think these event add great value and if you check all the events they don’t belong to a single organisation. I request you check the links again.</dd> <dd>Thanks <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Themdfarhan&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Themdfarhan (page does not exist)">Themdfarhan</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Themdfarhan" title="User talk:Themdfarhan">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-Themdfarhan-20230412182700-MrOllie-20230412182000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:27, 12 April 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Themdfarhan-20230412182700-MrOllie-20230412182000"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Themdfarhan-20230412182700-MrOllie-20230412182000"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-MrOllie-20230412182800-Themdfarhan-20230412182700"></span>You're violating Wikipedia's terms of use as outlined in <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:PAID" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:PAID">WP:PAID</a>, and you absolutely should not be adding external links to sites affiliated with Quixy. <a href="/wiki/User:MrOllie" class="mw-redirect" title="User:MrOllie">MrOllie</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie#top" title="User talk:MrOllie">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-MrOllie-20230412182800-Themdfarhan-20230412182700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:28, 12 April 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-MrOllie-20230412182800-Themdfarhan-20230412182700"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-MrOllie-20230412182800-Themdfarhan-20230412182700"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Themdfarhan-20230412183600-MrOllie-20230412182800"></span>I want to clarify that my edit includes events from multiple companies, not just Quixy.</dd> <dd>I understand Wikipedia's guidelines on conflict of interest state that "paid or unpaid, editors with a conflict of interest are strongly discouraged from directly editing an affected article". My intention in adding these links is to provide additional information to readers that is not already included in the article. <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Themdfarhan&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Themdfarhan (page does not exist)">Themdfarhan</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Themdfarhan" title="User talk:Themdfarhan">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-Themdfarhan-20230412183600-MrOllie-20230412182800" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:36, 12 April 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Themdfarhan-20230412183600-MrOllie-20230412182800"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Themdfarhan-20230412183600-MrOllie-20230412182800"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-MrOllie-20230412184400-Themdfarhan-20230412183600"></span>Just stop adding mentions of Quixy, and stop adding spammy links. Your intentions may be good but you are obviously violating our guidelines and policies. Thanks. <a href="/wiki/User:MrOllie" class="mw-redirect" title="User:MrOllie">MrOllie</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie#top" title="User talk:MrOllie">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-MrOllie-20230412184400-Themdfarhan-20230412183600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:44, 12 April 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-MrOllie-20230412184400-Themdfarhan-20230412183600"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-MrOllie-20230412184400-Themdfarhan-20230412183600"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="CO2_coalition" data-mw-thread-id="h-CO2_coalition-20230412212200"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-CO2_coalition-20230412212200"></span>CO2 coalition<span data-mw-comment-end="h-CO2_coalition-20230412212200"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Had3Mel-20230412212200-CO2_coalition"></span>I edited the CO2 Coalition to accurately reflect what it is they do, specifically explaining the benefits of CO2 in the atmosphere. You removed my edit without explanation, and reverted the page to the inaccurate description of the CO2 Coalition as a 'climate denier'. There is no such thing as 'Climate Denial' except in the political debate arena. Scientifically changes in climate are well known and accepted by every scientist. What is lacking in today's discussion is an explanation of well known benefits of CO2 such as <a href="/wiki/CO2_fertilization_effect" title="CO2 fertilization effect">plant fertilization</a>. Yet you deleted without explanation my edits. Wikipedia exists to crowd source human knowledge and your political editing detracts from Wikipedia's mission. Please take your discussion to a 'climate denial' page and cease from inaccurately censoring other contributors speech. Thank you. <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Had3Mel&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Had3Mel (page does not exist)">Had3Mel</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Had3Mel" title="User talk:Had3Mel">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-Had3Mel-20230412212200-CO2_coalition" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:22, 12 April 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Had3Mel-20230412212200-CO2_coalition"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Had3Mel-20230412212200-CO2_coalition"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-MrOllie-20230412213800-Had3Mel-20230412212200"></span>You whitewashed the article by removing well-sourced content, creating a massive neutrality problem. Repairing such a problem is not 'censoring other contributors speech.' If you must follow up on this, do so at the article's associated talk page, not my personal talk page. But I firmly suggest you have a read of <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:FRINGE" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:FRINGE">WP:FRINGE</a> and drop it. <a href="/wiki/User:MrOllie" class="mw-redirect" title="User:MrOllie">MrOllie</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie#top" title="User talk:MrOllie">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-MrOllie-20230412213800-Had3Mel-20230412212200" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:38, 12 April 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-MrOllie-20230412213800-Had3Mel-20230412212200"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-MrOllie-20230412213800-Had3Mel-20230412212200"></span></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Had3Mel-20230413150700-Had3Mel-20230412212200"></span>No thanks, I'm done with Wikipedia. It has become an unreliable and horribly biased playground for ideologues. Not fixable. <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Had3Mel&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Had3Mel (page does not exist)">Had3Mel</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Had3Mel" title="User talk:Had3Mel">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-Had3Mel-20230413150700-Had3Mel-20230412212200" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:07, 13 April 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Had3Mel-20230413150700-Had3Mel-20230412212200"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Had3Mel-20230413150700-Had3Mel-20230412212200"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="No_account_for_"User_talk:MrOllie"" data-mw-thread-id="h-No_account_for_"User_talk:MrOllie"-20230414162900"><span id="No_account_for_.22User_talk:MrOllie.22"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-No_account_for_"User_talk:MrOllie"-20230414162900"></span>No account for "User talk:MrOllie"<span data-mw-comment-end="h-No_account_for_"User_talk:MrOllie"-20230414162900"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><a class="external free" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/User_talk:MrOllie"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Novalis69-20230414162900-No_account_for_"User_talk:MrOllie""></span>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/User_talk:MrOllie</a> "User talk:MrOllie" is not registered on this wiki. Please check CentralAuth to see if it is registered on other wikis. <a class="external free" href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:CentralAuth/User_talk:MrOllie">https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:CentralAuth/User_talk:MrOllie</a> There is no global account for "User talk:MrOllie" <a href="/wiki/User:Novalis69" title="User:Novalis69">Novalis69</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Novalis69" title="User talk:Novalis69">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-Novalis69-20230414162900-No_account_for_"User_talk:MrOllie"" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:29, 14 April 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Novalis69-20230414162900-No_account_for_"User_talk:MrOllie""></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Novalis69-20230414162900-No_account_for_"User_talk:MrOllie""></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-MrOllie-20230414163100-Novalis69-20230414162900"></span>Huh? Why are you posting nonsense on my talk page? <a href="/wiki/User:MrOllie" class="mw-redirect" title="User:MrOllie">MrOllie</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie#top" title="User talk:MrOllie">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-MrOllie-20230414163100-Novalis69-20230414162900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:31, 14 April 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-MrOllie-20230414163100-Novalis69-20230414162900"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-MrOllie-20230414163100-Novalis69-20230414162900"></span></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Donald_Albury-20230414163500-Novalis69-20230414162900"></span>I also notice that <a href="/wiki/User:Novalis69" title="User:Novalis69">User:Novalis69</a> had one edit in the past 8 years before today, and that they previously edited many of the same articles that <a href="/wiki/User:Eklir" title="User:Eklir">User:Eklir</a> has recently been editing. Looks very ducky to me. <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Donald_Albury" title="User talk:Donald Albury">Donald Albury</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-Donald_Albury-20230414163500-Novalis69-20230414162900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:35, 14 April 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Donald_Albury-20230414163500-Novalis69-20230414162900"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Donald_Albury-20230414163500-Novalis69-20230414162900"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-MrOllie-20230414165200-Donald_Albury-20230414163500"></span>Looks like a SPI was filed. I'm guessing you're right, but we'll see what the official results are. <a href="/wiki/User:MrOllie" class="mw-redirect" title="User:MrOllie">MrOllie</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie#top" title="User talk:MrOllie">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-MrOllie-20230414165200-Donald_Albury-20230414163500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:52, 14 April 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-MrOllie-20230414165200-Donald_Albury-20230414163500"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-MrOllie-20230414165200-Donald_Albury-20230414163500"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Microbiome" data-mw-thread-id="h-Microbiome-20230414014600"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Microbiome-20230414014600"></span>Microbiome<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Microbiome-20230414014600"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Epipelagic-20230414014600-Microbiome"></span>In the article <a href="/wiki/Microbiome" title="Microbiome">Microbiome</a>, <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Microbiome&diff=next&oldid=1145903254&diffmode=source">you deleted</a> what seems to me an entirely relevant addition, an addition which I would assess as appropriate. Your edit summary says enigmatically "citespam", without any indication of what you might mean by that. What am I missing? — <a href="/wiki/User:Epipelagic" title="User:Epipelagic">Epipelagic</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Epipelagic" title="User talk:Epipelagic">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-Epipelagic-20230414014600-Microbiome" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">01:46, 14 April 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Epipelagic-20230414014600-Microbiome"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Epipelagic-20230414014600-Microbiome"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-MrOllie-20230414015000-Epipelagic-20230414014600"></span>It was added by a sock account, part of a set of socks that systematically adds citations to a small group of academics. If you think it benefits the article feel free to put it back. <a href="/wiki/User:MrOllie" class="mw-redirect" title="User:MrOllie">MrOllie</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie#top" title="User talk:MrOllie">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-MrOllie-20230414015000-Epipelagic-20230414014600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">01:50, 14 April 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-MrOllie-20230414015000-Epipelagic-20230414014600"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-MrOllie-20230414015000-Epipelagic-20230414014600"></span></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Levyitau-20230414104600-Epipelagic-20230414014600"></span>This addition is important for Wikipedia community. It took me a long time to read the literature and update this value. <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Levyitau&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Levyitau (page does not exist)">Levyitau</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Levyitau" title="User talk:Levyitau">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-Levyitau-20230414104600-Epipelagic-20230414014600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:46, 14 April 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Levyitau-20230414104600-Epipelagic-20230414014600"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Levyitau-20230414104600-Epipelagic-20230414014600"></span></dd></dl> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Smartse-20230414171900-Epipelagic-20230414014600"></span>Which is the "last account" you refer to on their user page? <a href="/wiki/User:Smartse" title="User:Smartse">SmartSE</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Smartse" title="User talk:Smartse">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-Smartse-20230414171900-Epipelagic-20230414014600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:19, 14 April 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Smartse-20230414171900-Epipelagic-20230414014600"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Smartse-20230414171900-Epipelagic-20230414014600"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Smartse-20230414172500-Smartse-20230414171900"></span>Don't worry - I found it. <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Orrl&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Orrl (page does not exist)">Orrl</a> <span class="plainlinks">(<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Orrl" title="User talk:Orrl">talk</a> <b>·</b> <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Orrl" title="Special:Contributions/Orrl">contribs</a> <b>·</b> <a href="/wiki/Special:DeletedContributions/Orrl" title="Special:DeletedContributions/Orrl">deleted contribs</a> <b>·</b> <a href="/wiki/Special:Log/Orrl" title="Special:Log/Orrl">logs</a> <b>·</b> <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special%3AAbuseLog&wpSearchUser=Orrl">filter log</a> <b>·</b> <a href="/wiki/Special:Block/Orrl" title="Special:Block/Orrl">block user</a> <b>·</b> <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special%3ALog%2Fblock&page=User%3AOrrl">block log</a>)</span> <a href="/wiki/User:Smartse" title="User:Smartse">SmartSE</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Smartse" title="User talk:Smartse">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-Smartse-20230414172500-Smartse-20230414171900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:25, 14 April 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Smartse-20230414172500-Smartse-20230414171900"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Smartse-20230414172500-Smartse-20230414171900"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-MrOllie-20230414175100-Smartse-20230414172500"></span>Yes, that's the one time I was able to get some talk page engagement. There are more, the oldest one I found goes back to 2011 or so. <a href="/wiki/User:MrOllie" class="mw-redirect" title="User:MrOllie">MrOllie</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie#top" title="User talk:MrOllie">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-MrOllie-20230414175100-Smartse-20230414172500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:51, 14 April 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-MrOllie-20230414175100-Smartse-20230414172500"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-MrOllie-20230414175100-Smartse-20230414172500"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Levyitau-20230414190600-MrOllie-20230414175100"></span>It is very nice to see the conspiracy.</dd> <dd>I am not related to any of the sock accounts that you have mentioned.</dd> <dd>I am a researcher at Yale University and I am an expert on network science and ecology and its applications, and I am very surprised by your decisions, when cutting my text.</dd> <dd>I was citing more than a dozen of scientist.</dd> <dd>I completely understand your point, and I saw what you mention as sock puppets, but you are wrong about me.</dd> <dd>I fully disagree with your decision that hurts the community of Wikipedia readers (as you saw for example in Human Microbiome).</dd> <dd>It seems that we will not agree on this case, that you delete my contributions. Neither one of us will give up on his truth, thus I would like to appeal to a third party.</dd> <dd>Could you please tell me what is the recommended procedure in this case?</dd> <dd>Best regards,</dd> <dd>Levyitau <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Levyitau&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Levyitau (page does not exist)">Levyitau</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Levyitau" title="User talk:Levyitau">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-Levyitau-20230414190600-MrOllie-20230414175100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:06, 14 April 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Levyitau-20230414190600-MrOllie-20230414175100"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Levyitau-20230414190600-MrOllie-20230414175100"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-MrOllie-20230414190800-Levyitau-20230414190600"></span>And yet you have made identical edits to the socks. <a href="/wiki/User:MrOllie" class="mw-redirect" title="User:MrOllie">MrOllie</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie#top" title="User talk:MrOllie">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-MrOllie-20230414190800-Levyitau-20230414190600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:08, 14 April 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-MrOllie-20230414190800-Levyitau-20230414190600"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-MrOllie-20230414190800-Levyitau-20230414190600"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Levyitau-20230414191400-MrOllie-20230414190800"></span>Dear MrOllie,</dd> <dd>It is not accurate. In some of my edits I adopted prior versions. In many others, I written the text from scratch.</dd> <dd>I understand the issue that you are raising, and I don't have any better solution, besides focusing on the scientific community which I am a part of.</dd> <dd>The text I wrote is beneficial to the good of all. I am following the Wikipedia rules and I am writing about many scientific studies and contributing to a wide range of values, that benefits from the science of complex systems.</dd> <dd>There was no rational reason to erase my text on biological networks, aging, microbiome and more.</dd> <dd>Thus, I kindly ask you to reconsider your decision, or could you please tell me what is the recommended procedure to appeal in this case? <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Levyitau&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Levyitau (page does not exist)">Levyitau</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Levyitau" title="User talk:Levyitau">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-Levyitau-20230414191400-MrOllie-20230414190800" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:14, 14 April 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Levyitau-20230414191400-MrOllie-20230414190800"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Levyitau-20230414191400-MrOllie-20230414190800"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-MrOllie-20230414191700-Levyitau-20230414191400"></span>I do not believe that you decided to do this independent of the many sock accounts that have been spamming this stuff. I decline to be your tutor on Wikipedia procedures, as I believe it would be to the detriment of the community to assist you in wasting the community's time. <a href="/wiki/User:MrOllie" class="mw-redirect" title="User:MrOllie">MrOllie</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie#top" title="User talk:MrOllie">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-MrOllie-20230414191700-Levyitau-20230414191400" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:17, 14 April 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-MrOllie-20230414191700-Levyitau-20230414191400"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-MrOllie-20230414191700-Levyitau-20230414191400"></span></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Levyitau-20230414191800-Levyitau-20230414191400"></span>The identical edits that were made, were to scientific publications with more than 3000 citations. <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Levyitau&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Levyitau (page does not exist)">Levyitau</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Levyitau" title="User talk:Levyitau">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-Levyitau-20230414191800-Levyitau-20230414191400" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:18, 14 April 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Levyitau-20230414191800-Levyitau-20230414191400"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Levyitau-20230414191800-Levyitau-20230414191400"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-MrOllie-20230414191900-Levyitau-20230414191800"></span>Just stop spamming us. <a href="/wiki/User:MrOllie" class="mw-redirect" title="User:MrOllie">MrOllie</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie#top" title="User talk:MrOllie">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-MrOllie-20230414191900-Levyitau-20230414191800" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:19, 14 April 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-MrOllie-20230414191900-Levyitau-20230414191800"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-MrOllie-20230414191900-Levyitau-20230414191800"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Levyitau-20230414192100-MrOllie-20230414191900"></span>You are being rude. I will ignore that.</dd> <dd>I see that you are not responding to my questions.</dd> <dd>Are you willing to allow me to undo what you erased?</dd> <dd>Or can you please tell me if I should appeal your decisions instead? <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Levyitau&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Levyitau (page does not exist)">Levyitau</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Levyitau" title="User talk:Levyitau">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-Levyitau-20230414192100-MrOllie-20230414191900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:21, 14 April 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Levyitau-20230414192100-MrOllie-20230414191900"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Levyitau-20230414192100-MrOllie-20230414191900"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-MrOllie-20230414192500-Levyitau-20230414192100"></span>No, I am not willing to allow you to continue spamming. Don't post on my user talk page again, you are no longer welcome here. <a href="/wiki/User:MrOllie" class="mw-redirect" title="User:MrOllie">MrOllie</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie#top" title="User talk:MrOllie">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-MrOllie-20230414192500-Levyitau-20230414192100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:25, 14 April 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-MrOllie-20230414192500-Levyitau-20230414192100"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-MrOllie-20230414192500-Levyitau-20230414192100"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Happy_First_Edit_Day!" data-mw-thread-id="h-Happy_First_Edit_Day!-20230416000600"><span id="Happy_First_Edit_Day.21"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Happy_First_Edit_Day!-20230416000600"></span>Happy First Edit Day!<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Happy_First_Edit_Day!-20230416000600"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <table style="width: 80%; margin: 4px auto; padding: .2em; border: 2px dashed #FF0000; background-color: gold;"> <tbody><tr> <td style="text-align:center;"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Interstatefive-20230416000600-Happy_First_Edit_Day!"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Balloons-aj.svg" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/ae/Balloons-aj.svg/50px-Balloons-aj.svg.png" decoding="async" width="50" height="55" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/ae/Balloons-aj.svg/75px-Balloons-aj.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/ae/Balloons-aj.svg/100px-Balloons-aj.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="1100" data-file-height="1200"/></a></span> </td> <td style="text-align:center;" width="100%"><span style="font-family:Comic Sans MS; color:darkblue">Hey, <b>MrOllie</b>. I'd like to wish you a wonderful First Edit Day on behalf of the <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Birthday_Committee" title="Wikipedia:Birthday Committee">Wikipedia Birthday Committee</a>!<br/>Have a great day!</span> <span style="background:#000dff; padding:2px;"><b><a href="/wiki/User:Interstatefive" title="User:Interstatefive"><span style="color:white;">interstate</span></a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Interstatefive" title="User talk:Interstatefive"><span style="color:white;">five</span></a></b> </span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-Interstatefive-20230416000600-Happy_First_Edit_Day!" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:06, 16 April 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Interstatefive-20230416000600-Happy_First_Edit_Day!"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Interstatefive-20230416000600-Happy_First_Edit_Day!"></span> </td> <td style="text-align:right;"><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Face-smile.svg" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/79/Face-smile.svg/55px-Face-smile.svg.png" decoding="async" width="55" height="55" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/79/Face-smile.svg/83px-Face-smile.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/79/Face-smile.svg/110px-Face-smile.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="48" data-file-height="48"/></a></span> </td></tr></tbody></table> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Device_fingerprint" data-mw-thread-id="h-Device_fingerprint-20230416152900"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Device_fingerprint-20230416152900"></span>Device fingerprint<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Device_fingerprint-20230416152900"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Betterwater-20230416152900-Device_fingerprint"></span>I edited the device fingerprinting page by removing misinformation and adding 2 common fingerprinting techniques that were not already listed (language and timezone). My question to you is: why did you remove those edits? (If you disagree with me, and think that the browser can read the device ID, please provide some code to do so.) <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Betterwater&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Betterwater (page does not exist)">Betterwater</a> (<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Betterwater&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:Betterwater (page does not exist)">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-Betterwater-20230416152900-Device_fingerprint" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:29, 16 April 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Betterwater-20230416152900-Device_fingerprint"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Betterwater-20230416152900-Device_fingerprint"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-MrOllie-20230416153100-Betterwater-20230416152900"></span>You deleted sourced content, and added unsourced content. Wikipedia content is <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:V" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:V">required</a> to carry citations to <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:RS" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:RS">reliable sources</a>. <a href="/wiki/User:MrOllie" class="mw-redirect" title="User:MrOllie">MrOllie</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie#top" title="User talk:MrOllie">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-MrOllie-20230416153100-Betterwater-20230416152900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:31, 16 April 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-MrOllie-20230416153100-Betterwater-20230416152900"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-MrOllie-20230416153100-Betterwater-20230416152900"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Betterwater-20230416153800-MrOllie-20230416153100"></span>Ah, I see. Could you please add a small description for why you removed content for in the future? Thanks. Ah by the way, on the sidenote: that it has sources in some book that nobody reads doesn't mean it is true.</dd> <dd>In the case of getting the hardware ID, you can't in a browser. Otherwise the entire fingerprinting idea is fundamentally redundant.</dd> <dd>The claims that I made do not require a source. For example, obviously the website you are visiting knows the language that it displays the information in. And obviously they know your time zone otherwise it would be impossible for them to display time. I can show some code and prove right now that retrieving a time is possible. Here, run this code in your browser: <a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="https://stackoverflow.com/questions/1091372/getting-the-clients-time-zone-and-offset-in-javascript">https://stackoverflow.com/questions/1091372/getting-the-clients-time-zone-and-offset-in-javascript</a> 1000 upvotes btw, and stackoverflow is one of the most reliable sources as everybody can quickly fact check the information. <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Betterwater&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Betterwater (page does not exist)">Betterwater</a> (<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Betterwater&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:Betterwater (page does not exist)">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-Betterwater-20230416153800-MrOllie-20230416153100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:38, 16 April 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Betterwater-20230416153800-MrOllie-20230416153100"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Betterwater-20230416153800-MrOllie-20230416153100"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-MrOllie-20230416154200-Betterwater-20230416153800"></span><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1248585704"><q class="inline-quote-talk">hat it has sources in some book that nobody reads doesn't mean it is true.</q> On Wikipedia we follow the sources, that is required by our core policies. We are not guided by individual editors opinions of what is true. Every claim you make requires a source, that too is core policy. User genereated materials like stackoverflow postings are not usable sources here. If you have questions about how Wikipedia works or how basic policies are applied, you can start by reading <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Core_content_policies" title="Wikipedia:Core content policies">Wikipedia:Core content policies</a>. If you have further questions after that, <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:TEAHOUSE" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:TEAHOUSE">WP:TEAHOUSE</a> is a good place to ask them. - <a href="/wiki/User:MrOllie" class="mw-redirect" title="User:MrOllie">MrOllie</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie#top" title="User talk:MrOllie">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-MrOllie-20230416154200-Betterwater-20230416153800" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:42, 16 April 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-MrOllie-20230416154200-Betterwater-20230416153800"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-MrOllie-20230416154200-Betterwater-20230416153800"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Betterwater-20230416154900-MrOllie-20230416154200"></span>Bro go press F12 in your browser right now, go to console and copy paste the code in. Then speak again. <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Betterwater&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Betterwater (page does not exist)">Betterwater</a> (<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Betterwater&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:Betterwater (page does not exist)">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-Betterwater-20230416154900-MrOllie-20230416154200" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:49, 16 April 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Betterwater-20230416154900-MrOllie-20230416154200"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Betterwater-20230416154900-MrOllie-20230416154200"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-MrOllie-20230416155200-Betterwater-20230416154900"></span>It's immaterial. Plenty of information is available from the web browser but is useless for device fingerprinting. <a href="/wiki/User:MrOllie" class="mw-redirect" title="User:MrOllie">MrOllie</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie#top" title="User talk:MrOllie">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-MrOllie-20230416155200-Betterwater-20230416154900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:52, 16 April 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-MrOllie-20230416155200-Betterwater-20230416154900"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-MrOllie-20230416155200-Betterwater-20230416154900"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Betterwater-20230416160400-MrOllie-20230416155200"></span>It's not useless for fingerprinting.</dd> <dd><a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="https://coveryourtracks.eff.org/privacy">https://coveryourtracks.eff.org/privacy</a> (ctrl+f "timezone")</dd> <dd><a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="https://www.techradar.com/features/browser-fingerprinting-explained">https://www.techradar.com/features/browser-fingerprinting-explained</a> (ctrl+f "timezone")</dd> <dd><a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="https://www.wired.com/story/browser-fingerprinting-tracking-explained/">https://www.wired.com/story/browser-fingerprinting-tracking-explained/</a> (ctrl+f "timezone")</dd> <dd>There you go. Idk where you got the idea from that it is useless for fingerprinting. <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Betterwater&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Betterwater (page does not exist)">Betterwater</a> (<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Betterwater&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:Betterwater (page does not exist)">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-Betterwater-20230416160400-MrOllie-20230416155200" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:04, 16 April 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Betterwater-20230416160400-MrOllie-20230416155200"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Betterwater-20230416160400-MrOllie-20230416155200"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Your_recent_contributions_to_Silver_nanoparticle" data-mw-thread-id="h-Your_recent_contributions_to_Silver_nanoparticle-20230417125200"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Your_recent_contributions_to_Silver_nanoparticle-20230417125200"></span>Your recent contributions to <a href="/wiki/Silver_nanoparticle" title="Silver nanoparticle">Silver nanoparticle</a><span data-mw-comment-end="h-Your_recent_contributions_to_Silver_nanoparticle-20230417125200"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Exeter_caravan-20230417125200-Your_recent_contributions_to_Silver_nanoparticle"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Information.svg" class="mw-file-description"><img alt="Information icon" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/2/28/Information.svg/25px-Information.svg.png" decoding="async" width="25" height="25" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/2/28/Information.svg/38px-Information.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/2/28/Information.svg/50px-Information.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="256" data-file-height="256"/></a></span> Hello, I'm <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Exeter_caravan&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Exeter caravan (page does not exist)">Exeter caravan</a>. I wanted to let you know that one or more of <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/MrOllie" title="Special:Contributions/MrOllie">your recent contributions</a> to <a href="/wiki/Silver_nanoparticle" title="Silver nanoparticle">Silver nanoparticle</a> have been undone because they did not appear constructive. If you would like to experiment, please use <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:MrOllie/sandbox&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:MrOllie/sandbox (page does not exist)">your sandbox</a>. If you have any questions, you can ask for assistance at the <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Teahouse" title="Wikipedia:Teahouse">Teahouse</a> or the <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Help_desk" title="Wikipedia:Help desk">Help desk</a>. Thanks. <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Exeter_caravan&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Exeter caravan (page does not exist)">Exeter caravan</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Exeter_caravan" title="User talk:Exeter caravan">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-Exeter_caravan-20230417125200-Your_recent_contributions_to_Silver_nanoparticle" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:52, 17 April 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Exeter_caravan-20230417125200-Your_recent_contributions_to_Silver_nanoparticle"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Exeter_caravan-20230417125200-Your_recent_contributions_to_Silver_nanoparticle"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-MrOllie-20230417125300-Exeter_caravan-20230417125200"></span>I'm assuming that this is a quick fire revert and warning from some kind of anti-vandal tool and you just didn't read my edit summary. <a href="/wiki/User:MrOllie" class="mw-redirect" title="User:MrOllie">MrOllie</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie#top" title="User talk:MrOllie">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-MrOllie-20230417125300-Exeter_caravan-20230417125200" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:53, 17 April 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-MrOllie-20230417125300-Exeter_caravan-20230417125200"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-MrOllie-20230417125300-Exeter_caravan-20230417125200"></span></dd></dl> <div style="clear:both;" class=""></div> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Secondary_sources" data-mw-thread-id="h-Secondary_sources-20230423161100"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Secondary_sources-20230423161100"></span>Secondary sources<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Secondary_sources-20230423161100"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Noloader-20230423161100-Secondary_sources"></span>Hi MrOllie, </p><p>The article at <a class="external free" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Null_pointer">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Null_pointer</a> has a lot of problems with missing secondary sources. For example, the ISO C standard is referenced instead of a secondary source. </p><p>You should probably go through the article an apply the same standards to other statements, and not just the facts I add. Also see <a class="external free" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Null_pointer#References">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Null_pointer#References</a> . </p><p><a href="/wiki/User:Noloader" title="User:Noloader">Jeffrey Walton </a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Noloader" title="User talk:Noloader">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-Noloader-20230423161100-Secondary_sources" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:11, 23 April 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Noloader-20230423161100-Secondary_sources"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Noloader-20230423161100-Secondary_sources"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="American_primacy" data-mw-thread-id="h-American_primacy-20230416215100"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-American_primacy-20230416215100"></span>American primacy<span data-mw-comment-end="h-American_primacy-20230416215100"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Yaboijoshy-20230416215100-American_primacy"></span>Earlier you removed my addition on the <a href="/wiki/Polarity_(international_relations)" title="Polarity (international relations)">Polarity (international relations)</a> page under American primacy for focusing on primary sources. Why was it removed? I'm confused because everything else in this section seems to focus on primary sources too.<a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Yaboijoshy&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Yaboijoshy (page does not exist)">Yaboijoshy</a> (<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Yaboijoshy&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:Yaboijoshy (page does not exist)">talk</a>) 21:51, 16 April 2023 (UTC) <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Yaboijoshy&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Yaboijoshy (page does not exist)">Yaboijoshy</a> (<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Yaboijoshy&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:Yaboijoshy (page does not exist)">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-Yaboijoshy-20230416215100-American_primacy" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:33, 16 April 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Yaboijoshy-20230416215100-American_primacy"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Yaboijoshy-20230416215100-American_primacy"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-MrOllie-20230416215500-Yaboijoshy-20230416215100"></span>Your additions seem to be particularly focused on adding opinions by those two economists to the article. Are you associated with them in some way? <a href="/wiki/User:MrOllie" class="mw-redirect" title="User:MrOllie">MrOllie</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie#top" title="User talk:MrOllie">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-MrOllie-20230416215500-Yaboijoshy-20230416215100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:55, 16 April 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-MrOllie-20230416215500-Yaboijoshy-20230416215100"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-MrOllie-20230416215500-Yaboijoshy-20230416215100"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Yaboijoshy-20230416220000-MrOllie-20230416215500"></span>I am not associated with them. I recently found their work and thought it would be a good addition to the page. I am also new to editing Wikipedia and am still learning. The reason all of my edits focus on them is because those are the only edits I have made on all of Wikipedia to date. <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Yaboijoshy&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Yaboijoshy (page does not exist)">Yaboijoshy</a> (<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Yaboijoshy&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:Yaboijoshy (page does not exist)">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-Yaboijoshy-20230416220000-MrOllie-20230416215500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:00, 16 April 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Yaboijoshy-20230416220000-MrOllie-20230416215500"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Yaboijoshy-20230416220000-MrOllie-20230416215500"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Yaboijoshy-20230416223200-Yaboijoshy-20230416220000"></span>I am an undergraduate and wrote a paper (not published to the internet) about this topic in economics. I was offered extra credit for using what I learned through my research to edit a Wikipedia page with a sizeable entry (150+ words) and have that entry stay up for 3 weeks. My motive and personal views are irrelevant, though. I did not delete the information of any other contributors and a reader of the page could come to any number of conclusions by reading the section. I presented the information I had learned in a similar tone to the rest of the section and the larger article. <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Yaboijoshy&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Yaboijoshy (page does not exist)">Yaboijoshy</a> (<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Yaboijoshy&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:Yaboijoshy (page does not exist)">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-Yaboijoshy-20230416223200-Yaboijoshy-20230416220000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:32, 16 April 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Yaboijoshy-20230416223200-Yaboijoshy-20230416220000"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Yaboijoshy-20230416223200-Yaboijoshy-20230416220000"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-MrOllie-20230416233000-Yaboijoshy-20230416223200"></span>Please direct your instructor to <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Student_assignments" title="Wikipedia:Student assignments">Wikipedia:Student_assignments</a>. Your grade should not be contingent on text remaining in the article for some period of time, that has proven to lead to bad outcomes for everyone involved. <a href="/wiki/User:MrOllie" class="mw-redirect" title="User:MrOllie">MrOllie</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie#top" title="User talk:MrOllie">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-MrOllie-20230416233000-Yaboijoshy-20230416223200" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:30, 16 April 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-MrOllie-20230416233000-Yaboijoshy-20230416223200"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-MrOllie-20230416233000-Yaboijoshy-20230416223200"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Yaboijoshy-20230417014300-MrOllie-20230416233000"></span>Regardless, my sources for my contribution were on-par with and similar to the other ones on the page. Since I fully intend on continuing to edit Wikipedia outside of the classroom setting, it would be helpful if you could tell me what I did wrong so I can learn from the experience. I understand that some of the discussion points are controversial. But, Wikipedia articles display information from sources with a variety of views. If I were to mention the ideologic bias of the economists would that make my addition acceptable? <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Yaboijoshy&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Yaboijoshy (page does not exist)">Yaboijoshy</a> (<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Yaboijoshy&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:Yaboijoshy (page does not exist)">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-Yaboijoshy-20230417014300-MrOllie-20230416233000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">01:43, 17 April 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Yaboijoshy-20230417014300-MrOllie-20230416233000"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Yaboijoshy-20230417014300-MrOllie-20230416233000"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-MrOllie-20230417014500-Yaboijoshy-20230417014300"></span>I can't speak to what might or might not be acceptable to everyone who edits that page, that's the sort of discussion you should be having on the article talk page. Since you expect to get credit for this, be sure to mention the <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:COI" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:COI">conflict of interest</a> if you decide to open a discussion. <a href="/wiki/User:MrOllie" class="mw-redirect" title="User:MrOllie">MrOllie</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie#top" title="User talk:MrOllie">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-MrOllie-20230417014500-Yaboijoshy-20230417014300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">01:45, 17 April 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-MrOllie-20230417014500-Yaboijoshy-20230417014300"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-MrOllie-20230417014500-Yaboijoshy-20230417014300"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Yaboijoshy-20230417182500-MrOllie-20230417014500"></span>I don't expect anything from my contribution. Do you know what "extra credit" means? I have no problem with my contributions being removed if an adequate reason is provided. You said your reason for removing my work was for "undue reliance on primary sources". Despite this, all of the information in the American primacy section seems to also come from books written by the authors they mention. Following this logic, why was my contribution removed while everyone else's is fine? <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Yaboijoshy&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Yaboijoshy (page does not exist)">Yaboijoshy</a> (<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Yaboijoshy&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:Yaboijoshy (page does not exist)">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-Yaboijoshy-20230417182500-MrOllie-20230417014500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:25, 17 April 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Yaboijoshy-20230417182500-MrOllie-20230417014500"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Yaboijoshy-20230417182500-MrOllie-20230417014500"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-MrOllie-20230417185300-Yaboijoshy-20230417182500"></span><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1248585704"><q class="inline-quote-talk">Do you know what "extra credit" means?</q> I know it means you have a reason other than improving the encyclopedia involved in your editing, which is what the <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:COI" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:COI">WP:COI</a> guidelines are all about. I take no position on other stuff in the article - there may well be other problems. That doesn't mean that you should add more problems. <a href="/wiki/User:MrOllie" class="mw-redirect" title="User:MrOllie">MrOllie</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie#top" title="User talk:MrOllie">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-MrOllie-20230417185300-Yaboijoshy-20230417182500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:53, 17 April 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-MrOllie-20230417185300-Yaboijoshy-20230417182500"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-MrOllie-20230417185300-Yaboijoshy-20230417182500"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="deleting_my_edits" data-mw-thread-id="h-deleting_my_edits-20230419121100"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-deleting_my_edits-20230419121100"></span>deleting my edits<span data-mw-comment-end="h-deleting_my_edits-20230419121100"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Accensions-20230419121100-deleting_my_edits"></span>ok, my edit on gpus, was kinda off, but my edit on Nintendo switch lite was perfect why were you supposed to change it <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Accensions&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Accensions (page does not exist)">Accensions</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Accensions" title="User talk:Accensions">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-Accensions-20230419121100-deleting_my_edits" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:11, 19 April 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Accensions-20230419121100-deleting_my_edits"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Accensions-20230419121100-deleting_my_edits"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-MrOllie-20230419121900-Accensions-20230419121100"></span>We don't put minor trivia in the lead sections of articles. <a href="/wiki/User:MrOllie" class="mw-redirect" title="User:MrOllie">MrOllie</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie#top" title="User talk:MrOllie">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-MrOllie-20230419121900-Accensions-20230419121100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:19, 19 April 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-MrOllie-20230419121900-Accensions-20230419121100"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-MrOllie-20230419121900-Accensions-20230419121100"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Accensions-20230419122200-MrOllie-20230419121900"></span>well i had to add it, since it wasnt in the rest of the page. not text nor atleast an image <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Accensions&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Accensions (page does not exist)">Accensions</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Accensions" title="User talk:Accensions">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-Accensions-20230419122200-MrOllie-20230419121900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:22, 19 April 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Accensions-20230419122200-MrOllie-20230419121900"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Accensions-20230419122200-MrOllie-20230419121900"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-MrOllie-20230419122300-Accensions-20230419122200"></span>1) The lead summarizes the body of the article - nothing should be in the lead without being in the article body and 2) See <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:V" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:V">WP:V</a> and <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:RS" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:RS">WP:RS</a>, everything you add must be supported by a citation to a reliable source. - <a href="/wiki/User:MrOllie" class="mw-redirect" title="User:MrOllie">MrOllie</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie#top" title="User talk:MrOllie">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-MrOllie-20230419122300-Accensions-20230419122200" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:23, 19 April 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-MrOllie-20230419122300-Accensions-20230419122200"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-MrOllie-20230419122300-Accensions-20230419122200"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Accensions-20230419122700-MrOllie-20230419122300"></span>well, a reliable source is the Nintendo switch website itself, and about "1" okay ill add a paragraph about the colors and the release date of each color, please let me do it... I really want to do an actual wikipedia edit, since im new to wikipedia editing <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Accensions&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Accensions (page does not exist)">Accensions</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Accensions" title="User talk:Accensions">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-Accensions-20230419122700-MrOllie-20230419122300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:27, 19 April 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Accensions-20230419122700-MrOllie-20230419122300"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Accensions-20230419122700-MrOllie-20230419122300"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-MrOllie-20230419123300-Accensions-20230419122700"></span>That's already in the article, we don't need the same information twice. <a href="/wiki/User:MrOllie" class="mw-redirect" title="User:MrOllie">MrOllie</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie#top" title="User talk:MrOllie">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-MrOllie-20230419123300-Accensions-20230419122700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:33, 19 April 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-MrOllie-20230419123300-Accensions-20230419122700"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-MrOllie-20230419123300-Accensions-20230419122700"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Accensions-20230419123500-MrOllie-20230419123300"></span>that shouldnt be in the "release" section, you should add a "colors" section <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Accensions&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Accensions (page does not exist)">Accensions</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Accensions" title="User talk:Accensions">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-Accensions-20230419123500-MrOllie-20230419123300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:35, 19 April 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Accensions-20230419123500-MrOllie-20230419123300"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Accensions-20230419123500-MrOllie-20230419123300"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-MrOllie-20230419125300-Accensions-20230419123500"></span>It's good where it is. If you're just looking for an edit to make, pick something off the list at <a href="/wiki/Category:Articles_needing_cleanup" title="Category:Articles needing cleanup">Category:Articles_needing_cleanup</a> and make some fixes. <a href="/wiki/User:MrOllie" class="mw-redirect" title="User:MrOllie">MrOllie</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie#top" title="User talk:MrOllie">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-MrOllie-20230419125300-Accensions-20230419123500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:53, 19 April 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-MrOllie-20230419125300-Accensions-20230419123500"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-MrOllie-20230419125300-Accensions-20230419123500"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="List_of_environmental_organizations" data-mw-thread-id="h-List_of_environmental_organizations-20230420100000"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-List_of_environmental_organizations-20230420100000"></span>List of environmental organizations<span data-mw-comment-end="h-List_of_environmental_organizations-20230420100000"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Kg4jxt-20230420100000-List_of_environmental_organizations"></span>added the organization ParaLaNaturaleza to the Environmental Organizations list for Puerto Rico and you removed it. It is a very large organization and I referenced their webpage. Why is it removed? (<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Kg4jxt&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:Kg4jxt (page does not exist)">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-Kg4jxt-20230420100000-List_of_environmental_organizations" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:00, 20 April 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Kg4jxt-20230420100000-List_of_environmental_organizations"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Kg4jxt-20230420100000-List_of_environmental_organizations"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-MrOllie-20230420115900-Kg4jxt-20230420100000"></span>That is a list of organizations with preexisting Wikipedia articles. - <a href="/wiki/User:MrOllie" class="mw-redirect" title="User:MrOllie">MrOllie</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie#top" title="User talk:MrOllie">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-MrOllie-20230420115900-Kg4jxt-20230420100000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:59, 20 April 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-MrOllie-20230420115900-Kg4jxt-20230420100000"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-MrOllie-20230420115900-Kg4jxt-20230420100000"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Report_for_vandalism" data-mw-thread-id="h-Report_for_vandalism-20230425121700"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Report_for_vandalism-20230425121700"></span>Report for vandalism<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Report_for_vandalism-20230425121700"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-IT_Photography-20230425121700-Report_for_vandalism"></span>{{subst:Uw-delete2|article=MrOllie|content=Your behavior on Wikipedia is unacceptable and against Wikipedia's policies. You have been repeatedly vandalizing articles and stalking my edits in order to delete them. This is not only unproductive but also disruptive to the community. Your continued behavior of adding vague comedic replies such as "No thanks" or "Not really" to my edits is not funny and will not be tolerated. I am reporting you for vandalism, and this report will be reviewed by administrators. Please see the following sources for evidence: [<a class="external free" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Computer_monitor&action=history">https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Computer_monitor&action=history</a>], [<a class="external free" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Webcam&action=history">https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Webcam&action=history</a>], and [<a class="external free" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=3D_scanning&action=history">https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=3D_scanning&action=history</a>].}} <span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Information_orange.svg" class="mw-file-description"><img alt="Information icon" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/f/f0/Information_orange.svg/25px-Information_orange.svg.png" decoding="async" width="25" height="25" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/f/f0/Information_orange.svg/38px-Information_orange.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/f/f0/Information_orange.svg/50px-Information_orange.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="256" data-file-height="256"/></a></span> Please do not remove content or templates from pages on Wikipedia without giving a valid reason for the removal in the <a href="/wiki/Help:Edit_summary" title="Help:Edit summary">edit summary</a>. Your content removal does not appear to be constructive and has been <a href="/wiki/Help:Reverting" title="Help:Reverting">reverted</a>. If you only meant to make a test edit, please use <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:MrOllie/sandbox&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:MrOllie/sandbox (page does not exist)">your sandbox</a> for that. Thank you. <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:IT_Photography&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:IT Photography (page does not exist)">IT Photography</a> (<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:IT_Photography&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:IT Photography (page does not exist)">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-IT_Photography-20230425121700-Report_for_vandalism" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:17, 25 April 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-IT_Photography-20230425121700-Report_for_vandalism"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-IT_Photography-20230425121700-Report_for_vandalism"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-MrOllie-20230425122400-IT_Photography-20230425121700"></span>Reverting your additions of inappropriate images is not vandalism - Wikipedia is not a product showcase. <a href="/wiki/User:MrOllie" class="mw-redirect" title="User:MrOllie">MrOllie</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie#top" title="User talk:MrOllie">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-MrOllie-20230425122400-IT_Photography-20230425121700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:24, 25 April 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-MrOllie-20230425122400-IT_Photography-20230425121700"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-MrOllie-20230425122400-IT_Photography-20230425121700"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-IT_Photography-20230425123400-MrOllie-20230425122400"></span>Reading your answer it is very clear that you have not even bothered to take a look at the articles in which you have been reverting my edits. Your behaviour is suspicious for using automation programs or apps in order to perform wikipedia edits. I would recommend you to read an article before reverting an edit, and to put a minimum ammount of effort. We can discuss this in a civilized matter, or I can prepare a more serious report for your suspicious automoderation actions, and the use of spam/automation tools.</dd> <dd>I am not aware of your intentions, but preventing wikipedia users from upgrading the old images that have been laying around in Wikipedia is odd and suspicious. If my images were from the same brand or product I would understand your concern, however, providing your instant actions and stalking of my edits it is clear that your actions differ from your words and unfunny vague statements. <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:IT_Photography&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:IT Photography (page does not exist)">IT Photography</a> (<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:IT_Photography&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:IT Photography (page does not exist)">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-IT_Photography-20230425123400-MrOllie-20230425122400" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:34, 25 April 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-IT_Photography-20230425123400-MrOllie-20230425122400"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-IT_Photography-20230425123400-MrOllie-20230425122400"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-MrOllie-20230425123500-IT_Photography-20230425123400"></span>You should go ahead and put in that report now, I don't discuss with people who are engaged in making empty threats about such things. <a href="/wiki/User:MrOllie" class="mw-redirect" title="User:MrOllie">MrOllie</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie#top" title="User talk:MrOllie">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-MrOllie-20230425123500-IT_Photography-20230425123400" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:35, 25 April 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-MrOllie-20230425123500-IT_Photography-20230425123400"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-MrOllie-20230425123500-IT_Photography-20230425123400"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-IT_Photography-20230425123900-MrOllie-20230425123500"></span>Let me understand something. If I photoshop away the logos of the computer monitors, webcams, and etc, would you keep deleting them or what is your problem? <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:IT_Photography&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:IT Photography (page does not exist)">IT Photography</a> (<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:IT_Photography&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:IT Photography (page does not exist)">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-IT_Photography-20230425123900-MrOllie-20230425123500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:39, 25 April 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-IT_Photography-20230425123900-MrOllie-20230425123500"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-IT_Photography-20230425123900-MrOllie-20230425123500"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-MrOllie-20230425125100-IT_Photography-20230425123900"></span>Right now, my problem is a newbie user who came on my talk page to make baseless threats. <a href="/wiki/User:MrOllie" class="mw-redirect" title="User:MrOllie">MrOllie</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie#top" title="User talk:MrOllie">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-MrOllie-20230425125100-IT_Photography-20230425123900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:51, 25 April 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-MrOllie-20230425125100-IT_Photography-20230425123900"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-MrOllie-20230425125100-IT_Photography-20230425123900"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-IT_Photography-20230425130000-MrOllie-20230425125100"></span>I would recommend you to answer questions unironically. What is the problem with the images and how could that be fixed? Before you reply, I suggest you to let sarcasm or jokes aside this time, absolutely no one finds them funny. <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:IT_Photography&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:IT Photography (page does not exist)">IT Photography</a> (<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:IT_Photography&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:IT Photography (page does not exist)">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-IT_Photography-20230425130000-MrOllie-20230425125100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:00, 25 April 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-IT_Photography-20230425130000-MrOllie-20230425125100"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-IT_Photography-20230425130000-MrOllie-20230425125100"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-MrOllie-20230425130300-IT_Photography-20230425130000"></span>Make the report. Do not post on my talk page again. <a href="/wiki/User:MrOllie" class="mw-redirect" title="User:MrOllie">MrOllie</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie#top" title="User talk:MrOllie">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-MrOllie-20230425130300-IT_Photography-20230425130000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:03, 25 April 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-MrOllie-20230425130300-IT_Photography-20230425130000"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-MrOllie-20230425130300-IT_Photography-20230425130000"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Roxy_the_dog-20230425152800-MrOllie-20230425130300"></span>... and note that the jokes <i>are</i> funny. - <a href="/wiki/User:Roxy_the_dog" title="User:Roxy the dog"><b>Roxy</b> the</a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Roxy_the_dog" title="User talk:Roxy the dog"><b>dog</b></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-Roxy_the_dog-20230425152800-MrOllie-20230425130300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:28, 25 April 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Roxy_the_dog-20230425152800-MrOllie-20230425130300"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Roxy_the_dog-20230425152800-MrOllie-20230425130300"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Olfactory_art" data-mw-thread-id="h-Olfactory_art-20230422203000"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Olfactory_art-20230422203000"></span>Olfactory art<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Olfactory_art-20230422203000"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-MrOllie-20230422203000-Olfactory_art"></span>Hello MrOllie, Why have you deleted the additional information and links about Perfumed Art and Olfactory which is in direct relation with the olfactory art thematic, bringing more references in this field? <small class="autosigned">— Preceding <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Signatures" title="Wikipedia:Signatures">unsigned</a> comment added by <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Hermes1968&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Hermes1968 (page does not exist)">Hermes1968</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Hermes1968#top" title="User talk:Hermes1968">talk</a> • <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Hermes1968" title="Special:Contributions/Hermes1968">contribs</a>) </small> </p> <dl><dd>Wikipedia is not a link directory, it is not a place to dump lists of links. See <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:NOT" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:NOT">WP:NOT</a> and <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:ELNO" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:ELNO">WP:ELNO</a>. It is also not a place to post opinionated essays, see <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:NPOV" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:NPOV">WP:NPOV</a> and <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:NOR" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:NOR">WP:NOR</a>. - <a href="/wiki/User:MrOllie" class="mw-redirect" title="User:MrOllie">MrOllie</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie#top" title="User talk:MrOllie">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-MrOllie-20230422203000-Olfactory_art" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:30, 22 April 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-MrOllie-20230422203000-Olfactory_art"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-MrOllie-20230422203000-Olfactory_art"></span></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Hermes1968-20230422203500-MrOllie-20230422203000"></span>It is additional information and absolutely not post opinionated essays, it is the source of information completing the previous incomplete list about olfactory art. Are you specialist in this domain and how you could cut the information withouts understanding? <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Hermes1968&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Hermes1968 (page does not exist)">Hermes1968</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Hermes1968" title="User talk:Hermes1968">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-Hermes1968-20230422203500-MrOllie-20230422203000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:35, 22 April 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Hermes1968-20230422203500-MrOllie-20230422203000"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Hermes1968-20230422203500-MrOllie-20230422203000"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-MrOllie-20230422203600-Hermes1968-20230422203500"></span>Wikipedia is <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:NOT" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:NOT">not an indiscriminate collection of information</a>, it is an encyclopedia and essays expressing opinions are off topic here. I understand your 'information', I simply disagree that it belongs on this web site. <a href="/wiki/User:MrOllie" class="mw-redirect" title="User:MrOllie">MrOllie</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie#top" title="User talk:MrOllie">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-MrOllie-20230422203600-Hermes1968-20230422203500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:36, 22 April 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-MrOllie-20230422203600-Hermes1968-20230422203500"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-MrOllie-20230422203600-Hermes1968-20230422203500"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Hermes1968-20230423201800-MrOllie-20230422203600"></span>Your opinion is discriminative because you are mentioning (" I simply disagree that it belongs on this web site").</dd> <dd>and writing by separate e-mail:</dd> <dd>("If you continue to disrupt Wikipedia, you may be blocked from editing". MrOllie (talk) 17:39, 23 April 2023 (UTC))</dd> <dd>Creative or Corrupt? How Wikipedians decide if a new contribution is "good" or "bad" - ref: Ethics.harvard.edu <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Hermes1968&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Hermes1968 (page does not exist)">Hermes1968</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Hermes1968" title="User talk:Hermes1968">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-Hermes1968-20230423201800-MrOllie-20230422203600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:18, 23 April 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Hermes1968-20230423201800-MrOllie-20230422203600"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Hermes1968-20230423201800-MrOllie-20230422203600"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-MrOllie-20230423202100-Hermes1968-20230423201800"></span>Both are true: if you keep adding material that violates Wikipedia's content policies, you will probably be blocked. <a href="/wiki/User:MrOllie" class="mw-redirect" title="User:MrOllie">MrOllie</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie#top" title="User talk:MrOllie">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-MrOllie-20230423202100-Hermes1968-20230423201800" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:21, 23 April 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-MrOllie-20230423202100-Hermes1968-20230423201800"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-MrOllie-20230423202100-Hermes1968-20230423201800"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Hermes1968-20230424192600-MrOllie-20230423202100"></span>The material which I am adding is an additional and new information in this field and you even don’t know the context because you are deleting the information immediately 2 min after every edition i.e. you are even not reading and not analysing, just deleting. You are a troublemaker in a useful Wikipedia community. <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Hermes1968&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Hermes1968 (page does not exist)">Hermes1968</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Hermes1968" title="User talk:Hermes1968">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-Hermes1968-20230424192600-MrOllie-20230423202100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:26, 24 April 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Hermes1968-20230424192600-MrOllie-20230423202100"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Hermes1968-20230424192600-MrOllie-20230423202100"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-MrOllie-20230424202300-Hermes1968-20230424192600"></span>It plainly violates Wikipedia's content policies. I have read it. It does not belong here. Making personal attacks on me will not change that. <a href="/wiki/User:MrOllie" class="mw-redirect" title="User:MrOllie">MrOllie</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie#top" title="User talk:MrOllie">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-MrOllie-20230424202300-Hermes1968-20230424192600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:23, 24 April 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-MrOllie-20230424202300-Hermes1968-20230424192600"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-MrOllie-20230424202300-Hermes1968-20230424192600"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Hermes1968-20230425204400-MrOllie-20230424202300"></span>Where are the violations in this below text?</dd> <dd><redacted> <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Hermes1968&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Hermes1968 (page does not exist)">Hermes1968</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Hermes1968" title="User talk:Hermes1968">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-Hermes1968-20230425204400-MrOllie-20230424202300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:44, 25 April 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Hermes1968-20230425204400-MrOllie-20230424202300"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Hermes1968-20230425204400-MrOllie-20230424202300"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-MrOllie-20230425205000-Hermes1968-20230425204400"></span>The whole thing, from top to bottom, is a violation of <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:NPOV" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:NPOV">WP:NPOV</a> and <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:ADVERT" class="mw-redirect mw-disambig" title="Wikipedia:ADVERT">WP:ADVERT</a>. - <a href="/wiki/User:MrOllie" class="mw-redirect" title="User:MrOllie">MrOllie</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie#top" title="User talk:MrOllie">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-MrOllie-20230425205000-Hermes1968-20230425204400" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:50, 25 April 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-MrOllie-20230425205000-Hermes1968-20230425204400"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-MrOllie-20230425205000-Hermes1968-20230425204400"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Linus_Pauling/Vitamin_C_section" data-mw-thread-id="h-Linus_Pauling/Vitamin_C_section-20230425041100"><span id="Linus_Pauling.2FVitamin_C_section"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Linus_Pauling/Vitamin_C_section-20230425041100"></span>Linus Pauling/Vitamin C section<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Linus_Pauling/Vitamin_C_section-20230425041100"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-128.252.154.2-20230425211000-Linus_Pauling/Vitamin_C_section"></span>Why did you revert my addition of recent work showing that high dose IV vitamin C can enhance the anti-tumor response of immunotherapy? There was no prior discussion of how high dose IV VitC affects immunotherapy, only chemotherapy. It is a very promising finding. <small class="autosigned">— Preceding <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Signatures" title="Wikipedia:Signatures">unsigned</a> comment added by <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/128.252.154.2" title="Special:Contributions/128.252.154.2">128.252.154.2</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:128.252.154.2#top" title="User talk:128.252.154.2">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-128.252.154.2-20230425211000-Linus_Pauling/Vitamin_C_section" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:10, 25 April 2023 (UTC)</a></small><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-128.252.154.2-20230425211000-Linus_Pauling/Vitamin_C_section"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-128.252.154.2-20230425211000-Linus_Pauling/Vitamin_C_section"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-MrOllie-20230425211200-128.252.154.2-20230425211000"></span>See <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:MEDRS" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:MEDRS">WP:MEDRS</a>. We don't report on mouse studies. Wikipedia is <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:FRINGE" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:FRINGE">not the place</a> to try to argue with mainstream medical science on this. - <a href="/wiki/User:MrOllie" class="mw-redirect" title="User:MrOllie">MrOllie</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie#top" title="User talk:MrOllie">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-MrOllie-20230425211200-128.252.154.2-20230425211000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:12, 25 April 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-MrOllie-20230425211200-128.252.154.2-20230425211000"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-MrOllie-20230425211200-128.252.154.2-20230425211000"></span></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-MrOllie-20230425213200-MrOllie-20230425211200"></span>In no way did I "argue with medical science" nor does the edit include medical advice. The research is from the highly regarded <i>translational</i> journal Science Translational Medicine. I did not argue, nor do I think, that the high dose vitamin C treatment is at the point of being clinically ready. However, the Linus Pauling article so far only mentions studies about direct effects of vitamin C on tumors, or interactions with chemotherapy. Immunotherapy, which has shown incredible promise in the last 15 years, should be mentioned. There is a chicken and egg problem in the very fact that Vitamin C is controversial slows down any clinical trials, so it will be a while until we have clinical confirmation of results. However, the recent study is one of the first quality studies which suggests that early claims made by Linus Pauling may not have been as off the mark as some may think, and is thus relevant to the Linus Pauling page. This is not a clinical page, it's about Linus Pauling. Note, I have not made edits to the Vitamin C page itself. <small class="autosigned">— Preceding <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Signatures" title="Wikipedia:Signatures">unsigned</a> comment added by <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Pazimzadeh&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Pazimzadeh (page does not exist)">Pazimzadeh</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Pazimzadeh#top" title="User talk:Pazimzadeh">talk</a> • <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Pazimzadeh" title="Special:Contributions/Pazimzadeh">contribs</a>) </small></dd></dl></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd>The guidelines outlined in <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:MEDRS" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:MEDRS">WP:MEDRS</a> are very stringent, most peer-reviewed journal articles do not meet them. Those guidelines also apply to any biomedical claim on any article in Wikipedia. Please read and understand the guideline, and then follow it going forward. Wikipedia is fine taking a long time, we have no deadline and by design we do not write about bleeding edge medical studies. - <a href="/wiki/User:MrOllie" class="mw-redirect" title="User:MrOllie">MrOllie</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie#top" title="User talk:MrOllie">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-MrOllie-20230425213200-MrOllie-20230425211200" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:32, 25 April 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-MrOllie-20230425213200-MrOllie-20230425211200"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-MrOllie-20230425213200-MrOllie-20230425211200"></span></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-MrOllie-20230425213500-MrOllie-20230425213200"></span>PS: You should be taking this to the article talk page. If you keep edit warring in stuff that fails MEDRS you're probably going to get blocked. <a href="/wiki/User:MrOllie" class="mw-redirect" title="User:MrOllie">MrOllie</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie#top" title="User talk:MrOllie">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-MrOllie-20230425213500-MrOllie-20230425213200" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:35, 25 April 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-MrOllie-20230425213500-MrOllie-20230425213200"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-MrOllie-20230425213500-MrOllie-20230425213200"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Pazimzadeh-20230425214900-MrOllie-20230425213500"></span>That the edit fails <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:MEDRS" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:MEDRS">WP:MEDRS</a> is your personal opinion. <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:MEDRS" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:MEDRS">WP:MEDRS</a> mentions 'in vitro' studies and does not mentioned translational or 'in vivo' mouse studies. You either did not read, or did not comprehend the article that I linked, since I did not make any biomedical claim, and neither does the source. You should take the time to read the article before unilaterally deciding whether it is fringe or not. If you find flaws in the article or find that I have not represented it accurately, you are free to clarify. If you do not have the credentials or understanding of biology, then perhaps you should refer to someone who does, or defer until you have done so. While the Linus Pauling article mentioned direct effects of VitC on tumors and on chemotherapy, immunotherapy is never mentioned. Immunotherapy has been extremely promising over the last 15 years and should not be ignored. Blocking me is not an effective way of having a conversation. <small class="autosigned">— Preceding <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Signatures" title="Wikipedia:Signatures">unsigned</a> comment added by <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Pazimzadeh&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Pazimzadeh (page does not exist)">Pazimzadeh</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Pazimzadeh#top" title="User talk:Pazimzadeh">talk</a> • <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Pazimzadeh" title="Special:Contributions/Pazimzadeh">contribs</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-Pazimzadeh-20230425214900-MrOllie-20230425213500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:49, 25 April 2023 (UTC)</a></small><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Pazimzadeh-20230425214900-MrOllie-20230425213500"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Pazimzadeh-20230425214900-MrOllie-20230425213500"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-MrOllie-20230425215500-Pazimzadeh-20230425214900"></span><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1248585704"><q class="inline-quote-talk">in vitro or animal studies</q> obviously means either, not both at the same time. We simply do not cover recent findings based on single animal studies. I'm not going to block you, but if you keep edit warring I'd have to refer the matter to an administrator who certainly will. At any rate, please refer any followup to the article's associated talk page. Perhaps someone will agree with you there, though I would be very surprised. <a href="/wiki/User:MrOllie" class="mw-redirect" title="User:MrOllie">MrOllie</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie#top" title="User talk:MrOllie">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-MrOllie-20230425215500-Pazimzadeh-20230425214900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:55, 25 April 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-MrOllie-20230425215500-Pazimzadeh-20230425214900"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-MrOllie-20230425215500-Pazimzadeh-20230425214900"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:MEDRS" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:MEDRS"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Pazimzadeh-20230425222900-MrOllie-20230425215500"></span>WP:MEDRS</a> States "avoid over-emphasizing single studies, particularly in vitro or animal studies." You should read the article that I cited, and let me know specifically in what way I have over-emphasized anything within it, or its implications. I specifically mentioned that the results are "pre-clinical" which is what <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:MEDRS" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:MEDRS">WP:MEDRS</a> recommends.</dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd>The Science Translational Medicine paper is also not a small-scale study, which <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:MEDRS" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:MEDRS">WP:MEDRS</a> frowns upwon, as several different kinds of immunotherapy were tested. I am not sure if you know that, since there is no way that you have had the time to read the paper in the <i>3 minute time period</i> before you reverted my edit. Note that in addition to primary literature, which is not what <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:MEDRS" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:MEDRS">WP:MEDRS</a> prefers, my original edit also included a reference to a review-like article from the National Cancer Institute (<a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="https://www.cancer.gov/research/key-initiatives/ras/ras-central/blog/2020/yun-cantley-vitamin-c">https://www.cancer.gov/research/key-initiatives/ras/ras-central/blog/2020/yun-cantley-vitamin-c</a>) which is more recent (2020) than the review article linked in the Linus Pauling page (2015). This is in line with the emphasis on up-to-date information in <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:MEDRS" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:MEDRS">WP:MEDRS</a>. Furthermore, the content of the review agrees with my edit, specifically saying that "a growing number of preclinical studies are showing how high-dose vitamin C might benefit cancer patients. Importantly, these preclinical studies provide a clear rationale and potential biomarkers that may help personalize the therapeutic approach and identify patient populations that are likely to respond to high-dose vitamin C therapy."</dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd>Finally, it is clear to anyone who reads biology articles that there are many Wikipedia article which refer to single animal studies when there is no clinical data to refer to. For example: <a class="external free" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interleukin_17#Role_in_psoriasis">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interleukin_17#Role_in_psoriasis</a>. (see all the sentences with single references). Just because a topic has been controversial in the past does not mean new data about it should not be published.</dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd>If you wish to re-phrase the wording of my edits to bring it into further compliance with <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:MEDRS" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:MEDRS">WP:MEDRS</a> then you should do that, instead of unilaterally rejecting up-to-date and sensible statements and repeatedly making strong declarative statements which misrepresent what I wrote. Specifically, you need to support your claim that the edits are "profringe", that the <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:MEDRS" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:MEDRS">WP:MEDRS</a> violation is "blatant," and that somehow what I wrote "argues with mainstream medical science," given the source material that I have cited.</dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd>If you continue to demonstrate unwillingness to read the content and/or source material that you are supervising/editing, then I will refer you to an administrator. <small class="autosigned">— Preceding <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Signatures" title="Wikipedia:Signatures">unsigned</a> comment added by <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Pazimzadeh&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Pazimzadeh (page does not exist)">Pazimzadeh</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Pazimzadeh#top" title="User talk:Pazimzadeh">talk</a> • <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Pazimzadeh" title="Special:Contributions/Pazimzadeh">contribs</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-Pazimzadeh-20230425222900-MrOllie-20230425215500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:29, 25 April 2023 (UTC)</a></small><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Pazimzadeh-20230425222900-MrOllie-20230425215500"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Pazimzadeh-20230425222900-MrOllie-20230425215500"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-MrOllie-20230425223100-Pazimzadeh-20230425222900"></span>I don't take well to empty threats. Just file the report now. <a href="/wiki/User:MrOllie" class="mw-redirect" title="User:MrOllie">MrOllie</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie#top" title="User talk:MrOllie">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-MrOllie-20230425223100-Pazimzadeh-20230425222900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:31, 25 April 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-MrOllie-20230425223100-Pazimzadeh-20230425222900"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-MrOllie-20230425223100-Pazimzadeh-20230425222900"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Pazimzadeh-20230425223400-MrOllie-20230425223100"></span>And yet you take to making them. I have other things to do, I will file the report once I learn how to do it properly, since I don't live on wikipedia and have other work to attend to. <small class="autosigned">— Preceding <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Signatures" title="Wikipedia:Signatures">unsigned</a> comment added by <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Pazimzadeh&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Pazimzadeh (page does not exist)">Pazimzadeh</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Pazimzadeh#top" title="User talk:Pazimzadeh">talk</a> • <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Pazimzadeh" title="Special:Contributions/Pazimzadeh">contribs</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-Pazimzadeh-20230425223400-MrOllie-20230425223100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:34, 25 April 2023 (UTC)</a></small><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Pazimzadeh-20230425223400-MrOllie-20230425223100"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Pazimzadeh-20230425223400-MrOllie-20230425223100"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-MrOllie-20230425223500-Pazimzadeh-20230425223400"></span>Great. Don't post here again until you do. <a href="/wiki/User:MrOllie" class="mw-redirect" title="User:MrOllie">MrOllie</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie#top" title="User talk:MrOllie">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-MrOllie-20230425223500-Pazimzadeh-20230425223400" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:35, 25 April 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-MrOllie-20230425223500-Pazimzadeh-20230425223400"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-MrOllie-20230425223500-Pazimzadeh-20230425223400"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Pazimzadeh-20230425041100-MrOllie-20230425223500"></span>Per your request, there is now a discussion involving you at <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/Edit_warring" title="Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Edit warring">Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Edit warring</a> regarding a possible violation of Wikipedia's policy on <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Edit_warring" title="Wikipedia:Edit warring">edit warring</a>. Best, <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Pazimzadeh&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Pazimzadeh (page does not exist)">Pazimzadeh</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Pazimzadeh" title="User talk:Pazimzadeh">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-Pazimzadeh-20230425041100-MrOllie-20230425223500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">04:11, 25 April 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Pazimzadeh-20230425041100-MrOllie-20230425223500"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Pazimzadeh-20230425041100-MrOllie-20230425223500"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="IRC_Hash_Tags" data-mw-thread-id="h-IRC_Hash_Tags-20230426032100"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-IRC_Hash_Tags-20230426032100"></span>IRC Hash Tags<span data-mw-comment-end="h-IRC_Hash_Tags-20230426032100"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Manachi-20230426032100-IRC_Hash_Tags"></span>Referring to <a class="external free" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Internet_Relay_Chat&oldid=prev&diff=1133158387">https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Internet_Relay_Chat&oldid=prev&diff=1133158387</a> - Could you please elaborate on your ingenious explanation of "also wrong"? As someone who has written an IRC client from the ground up parsing the text messages sent to/from the client/server, and used IRC for ~30 years - I see a very clear commonality of #hashtag grouping between channels and 'tags', and I question your expertise on the topic if you lack the ability to see the connection. Would you care to explain why the point wasn't valid? <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Manachi&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Manachi (page does not exist)">Manachi</a> (<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Manachi&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:Manachi (page does not exist)">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-Manachi-20230426032100-IRC_Hash_Tags" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">03:21, 26 April 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Manachi-20230426032100-IRC_Hash_Tags"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Manachi-20230426032100-IRC_Hash_Tags"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-MrOllie-20230426105300-Manachi-20230426032100"></span>See <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:NOR" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:NOR">WP:NOR</a>, <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:V" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:V">WP:V</a>. Wikipedia isn't a place to add your personal opinions. <a href="/wiki/User:MrOllie" class="mw-redirect" title="User:MrOllie">MrOllie</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie#top" title="User talk:MrOllie">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-MrOllie-20230426105300-Manachi-20230426032100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:53, 26 April 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-MrOllie-20230426105300-Manachi-20230426032100"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-MrOllie-20230426105300-Manachi-20230426032100"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Question_about_website_inclusion" data-mw-thread-id="h-Question_about_website_inclusion-20230426182100"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Question_about_website_inclusion-20230426182100"></span>Question about website inclusion<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Question_about_website_inclusion-20230426182100"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-NYCypher-20230426182100-Question_about_website_inclusion"></span>Hello MrOllie, I've attempted to have my website 321Chat.Com included in Wikipedia 2 or 3 times over the last 20 years. Since you seem to be the main person who maintains the chat-avenue.com wiki page can you give me some advice on why my site is not "of note" while chat-avenue is? We seem to have the same distinguished history as the longest-running free online group chat sites. Thank you for your time. <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:NYCypher&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:NYCypher (page does not exist)">NYCypher</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:NYCypher" title="User talk:NYCypher">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-NYCypher-20230426182100-Question_about_website_inclusion" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:21, 26 April 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-NYCypher-20230426182100-Question_about_website_inclusion"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-NYCypher-20230426182100-Question_about_website_inclusion"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-MrOllie-20230426182300-NYCypher-20230426182100"></span>I've reverted some vandalism at <a href="/wiki/Chat-Avenue" title="Chat-Avenue">Chat-Avenue</a>, but I didn't write the article and I would not say I am 'the main person who maintains' - that's not really a thing on Wikipedia. As to your question, see <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:GNG" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:GNG">WP:GNG</a>. It is all about the number and quality of available sources. Chat-Avenue probably wouldn't be notable either if they didn't happen to be involved in some high-profile child predator investigations. <a href="/wiki/User:MrOllie" class="mw-redirect" title="User:MrOllie">MrOllie</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie#top" title="User talk:MrOllie">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-MrOllie-20230426182300-NYCypher-20230426182100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:23, 26 April 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-MrOllie-20230426182300-NYCypher-20230426182100"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-MrOllie-20230426182300-NYCypher-20230426182100"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="T-Coffee_Deletions" data-mw-thread-id="h-T-Coffee_Deletions-20230427073600"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-T-Coffee_Deletions-20230427073600"></span>T-Coffee Deletions<span data-mw-comment-end="h-T-Coffee_Deletions-20230427073600"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Valgraves-20230427073600-T-Coffee_Deletions"></span>Hi MrOllie, I'm one of the students that has been working on the T-Coffee page. I noticed you deleted everything we've added/changed to the article. Can you please explain the issues you had with our contributions in detail? <a href="/wiki/User:Valgraves" title="User:Valgraves">Valgraves</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Valgraves" title="User talk:Valgraves">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-Valgraves-20230427073600-T-Coffee_Deletions" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">07:36, 27 April 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Valgraves-20230427073600-T-Coffee_Deletions"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Valgraves-20230427073600-T-Coffee_Deletions"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-MrOllie-20230427122400-Valgraves-20230427073600"></span>Your group has been adding large amounts of unencyclopedic content - lists of links to extensions that don't meet <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:EL" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:EL">WP:EL</a>, lists of applications, and a how-to manual (See <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:NOTHOWTO" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:NOTHOWTO">WP:NOTHOWTO</a>). A bunch of it was deleted by an admin who handles copyright problems for being plagiarized (see <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:COPYVIO" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:COPYVIO">WP:COPYVIO</a>) - and your group has not been making any use of article talk pages whatsoever, and your class appears to be unregistered and generally not following the expected practices for such editing on Wikipedia. Please direct your instructor to <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Education_program/Educators" title="Wikipedia:Education program/Educators">Wikipedia:Education program/Educators</a>. <a href="/wiki/User:MrOllie" class="mw-redirect" title="User:MrOllie">MrOllie</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie#top" title="User talk:MrOllie">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-MrOllie-20230427122400-Valgraves-20230427073600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:24, 27 April 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-MrOllie-20230427122400-Valgraves-20230427073600"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-MrOllie-20230427122400-Valgraves-20230427073600"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Software_Project_Management" data-mw-thread-id="h-Software_Project_Management-20230428153000"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Software_Project_Management-20230428153000"></span>Software Project Management<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Software_Project_Management-20230428153000"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Richlegge-20230428153000-Software_Project_Management"></span>I am not part of a classroom effort. I'm a sole user with vast expertise in software project management. I'm hoping to make some topic pages/articles relevant. Is there resistance to this? <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Richlegge&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Richlegge (page does not exist)">Richlegge</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Richlegge" title="User talk:Richlegge">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-Richlegge-20230428153000-Software_Project_Management" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:30, 28 April 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Richlegge-20230428153000-Software_Project_Management"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Richlegge-20230428153000-Software_Project_Management"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-MrOllie-20230428154100-Richlegge-20230428153000"></span>No one said you were part of a classroom effort. You keep adding inappropriate external links and removing content. You have also created unsourced, duplicate articles and copied text from elsewhere into Wikipedia in blatant violation of copyright. None of these actions are acceptable on Wikipedia. <a href="/wiki/User:MrOllie" class="mw-redirect" title="User:MrOllie">MrOllie</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie#top" title="User talk:MrOllie">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-MrOllie-20230428154100-Richlegge-20230428153000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:41, 28 April 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-MrOllie-20230428154100-Richlegge-20230428153000"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-MrOllie-20230428154100-Richlegge-20230428153000"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="ANI_about_your_recent_behavior_posted" data-mw-thread-id="h-ANI_about_your_recent_behavior_posted-20230426185200"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-ANI_about_your_recent_behavior_posted-20230426185200"></span>ANI about your recent behavior posted<span data-mw-comment-end="h-ANI_about_your_recent_behavior_posted-20230426185200"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-66.207.202.66-20230426185200-ANI_about_your_recent_behavior_posted"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img alt="Information icon" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/1/1d/Information_icon4.svg/25px-Information_icon4.svg.png" decoding="async" width="25" height="25" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/1/1d/Information_icon4.svg/38px-Information_icon4.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/1/1d/Information_icon4.svg/50px-Information_icon4.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="620" data-file-height="620"/></span></span> There is currently a discussion at <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/Incidents" title="Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents">Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents</a> regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Thank you.<a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/66.207.202.66" title="Special:Contributions/66.207.202.66">66.207.202.66</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:66.207.202.66" title="User talk:66.207.202.66">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-66.207.202.66-20230426185200-ANI_about_your_recent_behavior_posted" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:52, 26 April 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-66.207.202.66-20230426185200-ANI_about_your_recent_behavior_posted"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-66.207.202.66-20230426185200-ANI_about_your_recent_behavior_posted"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-142.115.142.4-20230429025800-66.207.202.66-20230426185200"></span>Hello MrOllie. I wanted to say no hard feelings. I think I did overreact a bit and I'm sorry for the ANI. That said, I do think you often are unprovokedly terse pretty often. Not necessarily uncivil, but it walks the line. Have a great day. <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/142.115.142.4" title="Special:Contributions/142.115.142.4">142.115.142.4</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:142.115.142.4" title="User talk:142.115.142.4">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-142.115.142.4-20230429025800-66.207.202.66-20230426185200" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">02:58, 29 April 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-142.115.142.4-20230429025800-66.207.202.66-20230426185200"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-142.115.142.4-20230429025800-66.207.202.66-20230426185200"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-MrOllie-20230429173400-142.115.142.4-20230429025800"></span>Excellent example of a <a href="/wiki/Non-apology_apology" title="Non-apology apology">non-apology apology</a>. <a href="/wiki/User:MrOllie" class="mw-redirect" title="User:MrOllie">MrOllie</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie#top" title="User talk:MrOllie">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-MrOllie-20230429173400-142.115.142.4-20230429025800" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:34, 29 April 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-MrOllie-20230429173400-142.115.142.4-20230429025800"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-MrOllie-20230429173400-142.115.142.4-20230429025800"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-142.115.142.4-20230429235900-ANI_about_your_recent_behavior_posted"></span>Whatever pal. I admit I overreacted and publically withdrew the ANI. That is an apology. I admitted wrongdoing to you without condition or reservation.</dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <p>I also politely note that you do post mean replies without provocation sometimes. Then you reply with another curt message. Irony much. Your attitude sucks. <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/142.115.142.4" title="Special:Contributions/142.115.142.4">142.115.142.4</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:142.115.142.4" title="User talk:142.115.142.4">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-142.115.142.4-20230429235900-ANI_about_your_recent_behavior_posted" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:59, 29 April 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-142.115.142.4-20230429235900-ANI_about_your_recent_behavior_posted"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-142.115.142.4-20230429235900-ANI_about_your_recent_behavior_posted"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-MrOllie-20230430000100-142.115.142.4-20230429235900"></span>Don't post on my page again, I'm full up on passive-aggressive nonsense. Looking forward to the series of blocks that will come down if you keep acting as you have been. <a href="/wiki/User:MrOllie" class="mw-redirect" title="User:MrOllie">MrOllie</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie#top" title="User talk:MrOllie">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-MrOllie-20230430000100-142.115.142.4-20230429235900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:01, 30 April 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-MrOllie-20230430000100-142.115.142.4-20230429235900"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-MrOllie-20230430000100-142.115.142.4-20230429235900"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Barnstar!" data-mw-thread-id="h-Barnstar!-20230430140000"><span id="Barnstar.21"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Barnstar!-20230430140000"></span>Barnstar!<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Barnstar!-20230430140000"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <table style="border: 1px solid gray; background-color: #fdffe7;"> <tbody><tr> <td rowspan="2" style="vertical-align:middle;"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-FeydHuxtable-20230430140000-Barnstar!"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:WikiDefender_Barnstar_Hires.png" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/e4/WikiDefender_Barnstar_Hires.png/100px-WikiDefender_Barnstar_Hires.png" decoding="async" width="100" height="95" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/e4/WikiDefender_Barnstar_Hires.png/150px-WikiDefender_Barnstar_Hires.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/e4/WikiDefender_Barnstar_Hires.png/200px-WikiDefender_Barnstar_Hires.png 2x" data-file-width="2000" data-file-height="1900"/></a></span> </td> <td rowspan="2"> </td> <td style="font-size: x-large; padding: 0; vertical-align: middle; height: 1.1em;"><b>The Defender of the Wiki Barnstar</b> </td></tr> <tr> <td style="vertical-align: middle; border-top: 1px solid gray;">I hereby award this <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Barnstars" title="Wikipedia:Barnstars">barnstar</a> to editor MrOllie, for having appeared on my watchlist hundreds of times over the years, defending articles from Spam & other questionable edits. <a href="/wiki/User:FeydHuxtable" title="User:FeydHuxtable">FeydHuxtable</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:FeydHuxtable" title="User talk:FeydHuxtable">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-FeydHuxtable-20230430140000-Barnstar!" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:00, 30 April 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-FeydHuxtable-20230430140000-Barnstar!"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-FeydHuxtable-20230430140000-Barnstar!"></span> </td></tr></tbody></table> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Third_opinion_on_Talk:Aquatic_ape_hypothesis#Intro_relevance" data-mw-thread-id="h-Third_opinion_on_Talk:Aquatic_ape_hypothesis#Intro_relevance-20230430184800"><span id="Third_opinion_on_Talk:Aquatic_ape_hypothesis.23Intro_relevance"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Third_opinion_on_Talk:Aquatic_ape_hypothesis#Intro_relevance-20230430184800"></span>Third opinion on <a href="/wiki/Talk:Aquatic_ape_hypothesis#Intro_relevance" title="Talk:Aquatic ape hypothesis">Talk:Aquatic ape hypothesis#Intro relevance</a><span data-mw-comment-end="h-Third_opinion_on_Talk:Aquatic_ape_hypothesis#Intro_relevance-20230430184800"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Voorts-20230430184800-Third_opinion_on_Talk:Aquatic_ape_hypothesis#Intro_relevance"></span>I intend to offer a third opinion on the above-topic per the request for one, but it wold be helpful if you could please crystalize your main points on the talk page <a href="/wiki/Talk:Aquatic_ape_hypothesis#Third_opinion" title="Talk:Aquatic ape hypothesis">here</a>. <a href="/wiki/User:Voorts" title="User:Voorts">voorts</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Voorts" title="User talk:Voorts">talk</a>/<a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Voorts" title="Special:Contributions/Voorts">contributions</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-Voorts-20230430184800-Third_opinion_on_Talk:Aquatic_ape_hypothesis#Intro_relevance" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:48, 30 April 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Voorts-20230430184800-Third_opinion_on_Talk:Aquatic_ape_hypothesis#Intro_relevance"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Voorts-20230430184800-Third_opinion_on_Talk:Aquatic_ape_hypothesis#Intro_relevance"></span> </p><p><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-MrOllie-20230430193400-Third_opinion_on_Talk:Aquatic_ape_hypothesis#Intro_relevance"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:Voorts" title="User:Voorts">Voorts</a>:</span> It doesn't qualify, three editors are already involved in the discussion. - <a href="/wiki/User:MrOllie" class="mw-redirect" title="User:MrOllie">MrOllie</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie#top" title="User talk:MrOllie">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-MrOllie-20230430193400-Third_opinion_on_Talk:Aquatic_ape_hypothesis#Intro_relevance" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:34, 30 April 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-MrOllie-20230430193400-Third_opinion_on_Talk:Aquatic_ape_hypothesis#Intro_relevance"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-MrOllie-20230430193400-Third_opinion_on_Talk:Aquatic_ape_hypothesis#Intro_relevance"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Voorts-20230430193700-MrOllie-20230430193400"></span>My bad. I'm new to third opinions. There was a third opinion request, and I've now closed it out and noted that this should be referred to another forum on the talk page. <a href="/wiki/User:Voorts" title="User:Voorts">voorts</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Voorts" title="User talk:Voorts">talk</a>/<a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Voorts" title="Special:Contributions/Voorts">contributions</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-Voorts-20230430193700-MrOllie-20230430193400" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:37, 30 April 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Voorts-20230430193700-MrOllie-20230430193400"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Voorts-20230430193700-MrOllie-20230430193400"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Oh_no_they're_on_to_me._I_mean_us." data-mw-thread-id="h-Oh_no_they're_on_to_me._I_mean_us.-20230501035700"><span id="Oh_no_they.27re_on_to_me._I_mean_us."></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Oh_no_they're_on_to_me._I_mean_us.-20230501035700"></span>Oh no they're on to me. I mean us.<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Oh_no_they're_on_to_me._I_mean_us.-20230501035700"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Bon_courage-20230501035700-Oh_no_they're_on_to_me._I_mean_us."></span>You may be amused (or not) by: </p> <ul><li><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Sockpuppet_investigations/Bon_courage" title="Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Bon courage">WP:Sockpuppet investigations/Bon courage</a></li></ul> <p><a href="/wiki/User:Bon_courage" title="User:Bon courage">Bon courage</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Bon_courage" title="User talk:Bon courage">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-Bon_courage-20230501035700-Oh_no_they're_on_to_me._I_mean_us." class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">03:57, 1 May 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Bon_courage-20230501035700-Oh_no_they're_on_to_me._I_mean_us."></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Bon_courage-20230501035700-Oh_no_they're_on_to_me._I_mean_us."></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-MrOllie-20230501114100-Bon_courage-20230501035700"></span>Wow, sad. <a href="/wiki/User:MrOllie" class="mw-redirect" title="User:MrOllie">MrOllie</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie#top" title="User talk:MrOllie">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-MrOllie-20230501114100-Bon_courage-20230501035700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:41, 1 May 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-MrOllie-20230501114100-Bon_courage-20230501035700"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-MrOllie-20230501114100-Bon_courage-20230501035700"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Copyvio_on_CADgene" data-mw-thread-id="h-Copyvio_on_CADgene-20230501194000"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Copyvio_on_CADgene-20230501194000"></span>Copyvio on <a href="/w/index.php?title=CADgene&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="CADgene (page does not exist)">CADgene</a><span data-mw-comment-end="h-Copyvio_on_CADgene-20230501194000"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-ScottishFinnishRadish-20230501194000-Copyvio_on_CADgene"></span>I checked earwig and did a bit of spot checking, and other than the image that I speedied on Commons I didn't see anything. Is there some text I'm missing? <a href="/wiki/User:ScottishFinnishRadish" title="User:ScottishFinnishRadish">ScottishFinnishRadish</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:ScottishFinnishRadish" title="User talk:ScottishFinnishRadish">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-ScottishFinnishRadish-20230501194000-Copyvio_on_CADgene" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:40, 1 May 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-ScottishFinnishRadish-20230501194000-Copyvio_on_CADgene"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-ScottishFinnishRadish-20230501194000-Copyvio_on_CADgene"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-MrOllie-20230501194900-ScottishFinnishRadish-20230501194000"></span>It's a close paraphrase. For example this from the article <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1248585704"><q class="inline-quote-talk">For efficient and convenient viewing of the dataset, CADgene has three methods in place for browsing CAD genes from candidate studies.</q> vs this from the source <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1248585704"><q class="inline-quote-talk">To help users to browse the data conveniently, CADgene provides three different methods for browsing CAD-related genes from candidate gene studies</q>. For reference, this relates to <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Conflict_of_interest/Noticeboard#Cash_prizes_for_student_editing_contest" title="Wikipedia:Conflict of interest/Noticeboard">Wikipedia:Conflict_of_interest/Noticeboard#Cash_prizes_for_student_editing_contest</a> <a href="/wiki/User:MrOllie" class="mw-redirect" title="User:MrOllie">MrOllie</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie#top" title="User talk:MrOllie">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-MrOllie-20230501194900-ScottishFinnishRadish-20230501194000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:49, 1 May 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-MrOllie-20230501194900-ScottishFinnishRadish-20230501194000"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-MrOllie-20230501194900-ScottishFinnishRadish-20230501194000"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Recently_Reverted_Contributions" data-mw-thread-id="h-Recently_Reverted_Contributions-20230502161600"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Recently_Reverted_Contributions-20230502161600"></span>Recently Reverted Contributions<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Recently_Reverted_Contributions-20230502161600"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><b><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-MrOllie-20230502161600-Recently_Reverted_Contributions"></span>Dear MrOllie,</b> </p><p>I noticed that the video illustrations I added to a Wikipedia article were recently reverted by you, along with some other links to video illustrations that I had added in the past. I want to clarify that my contributions were not intended for advertising or promotion, and I will be more careful in the future to avoid any confusion with spam or promotion. </p><p>After reading your message, I understand why my external links were considered promotional. I apologize for any confusion caused by the presence of the doctor practice's logo at the beginning and end of the videos, as well as the invitation for viewers to visit the practice on the outer section of the video. </p><p>May I request your permission for the following: </p><p>Currently, we produce educational videos featuring leading board-certified doctors. We are not affiliated with any of the doctors or practices that are featured in such content. </p><p>Our goal is to establish a verified database of leading board-certified doctors and produce high-quality, trustworthy healthcare-related content for readers to learn and explore from. </p><p>Therefore, we are interested in contributing to Wikipedia by including our visual aids in published articles as they certainly provide great value to readers. </p><p>If we can remove the practice's logo from the beginning and end of the video, as well as the section at the end where the provider invites viewers to visit the practice, would it be possible to link the revised version of the educational video to its respective article on Wikipedia? </p><p>Please advise, so we can send you a revised video for you to review and approve prior to adding a link. The video illustration will be merely educational in regards to the procedure discussed in the article. </p><p>Thank you very much, MrOllie, and I will be pending of your update. </p><p><i>*Could you please remove the spam tag that was added to your notes on the history page of the article when you reverted the link? I have been contributing to Wikipedia for a long time and my intention is not to spam, but to contribute. I would greatly appreciate it.</i> </p><p>Suham'T 16:11, 2 May 2023 (UTC) Suham'T 16:11, 2 May 2023 (UTC) </p> <dl><dd>Wikipedia has very high standards for medical content, which you can find at <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:MEDRS" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:MEDRS">WP:MEDRS</a>. Even if you remove logos, your videos simply will not meet that standard. Adding links to your own website, for any purpose, is not appropriate on Wikipedia. If additions of the site continue, you can expect that either user blocks or placement of your domain on Wikipedia's spam blacklist will be the response. <a href="/wiki/User:MrOllie" class="mw-redirect" title="User:MrOllie">MrOllie</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie#top" title="User talk:MrOllie">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-MrOllie-20230502161600-Recently_Reverted_Contributions" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:16, 2 May 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-MrOllie-20230502161600-Recently_Reverted_Contributions"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-MrOllie-20230502161600-Recently_Reverted_Contributions"></span></dd></dl> <dl><dd>As previously expressed, if for any reason you do not feel such content to be appropriate, we will simply not add such educational videos as external links to articles.</dd> <dd>The reason we included a new external link, recently, was because (a) we have previously contributed two over the last 2 years or so, and they were not reverted, and (b) the videos certainly provide valuable illustration for readers.</dd> <dd></dd> <dd>Our purpose was to contribute by adding external links to our database of high-quality, trustworthy healthcare-related content.</dd> <dd></dd> <dd>Thank you for your update, though. Suham'T 16:49, 2 May 2023 (UTC)</dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Software_project_management_2" data-mw-thread-id="h-Software_project_management_2-20230503142100"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Software_project_management_2-20230503142100"></span>Software project management<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Software_project_management_2-20230503142100"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Richlegge-20230503142100-Software_project_management_2"></span>Dispite multiple attempts to suggest edits and updates, you seem unreceptive. Software Development and Software Engineering is the domain of IEEE. You apparently think Software Project Managment is also. </p><p>I've even suggested a more contemporary definition from one of the existing sources. </p><p>It seems this page will stay stale, particularly with your bullish approach to suggestions. </p><p>-- <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Richlegge&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Richlegge (page does not exist)">Richlegge</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Richlegge" title="User talk:Richlegge">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-Richlegge-20230503142100-Software_project_management_2" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:21, 3 May 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Richlegge-20230503142100-Software_project_management_2"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Richlegge-20230503142100-Software_project_management_2"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-MrOllie-20230503142800-Richlegge-20230503142100"></span>Keep all discussion on the article talk page. Thanks. <a href="/wiki/User:MrOllie" class="mw-redirect" title="User:MrOllie">MrOllie</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie#top" title="User talk:MrOllie">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-MrOllie-20230503142800-Richlegge-20230503142100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:28, 3 May 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-MrOllie-20230503142800-Richlegge-20230503142100"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-MrOllie-20230503142800-Richlegge-20230503142100"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Psalms" data-mw-thread-id="h-Psalms-20230503200200"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Psalms-20230503200200"></span>Psalms<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Psalms-20230503200200"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-204.128.182.15-20230503200200-Psalms"></span>'No good reason to water this down' is itself lacking a good reason and is its own judgement call. Personal preference is not a substitute for solid reasoning and unbiased speech. Please leave as is. <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/204.128.182.15" title="Special:Contributions/204.128.182.15">204.128.182.15</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:204.128.182.15" title="User talk:204.128.182.15">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-204.128.182.15-20230503200200-Psalms" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:02, 3 May 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-204.128.182.15-20230503200200-Psalms"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-204.128.182.15-20230503200200-Psalms"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-MrOllie-20230503201700-204.128.182.15-20230503200200"></span>Take it up on the article talk page, but we definitely do not make articles vague or ambiguous for no reason. <a href="/wiki/User:MrOllie" class="mw-redirect" title="User:MrOllie">MrOllie</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie#top" title="User talk:MrOllie">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-MrOllie-20230503201700-204.128.182.15-20230503200200" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:17, 3 May 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-MrOllie-20230503201700-204.128.182.15-20230503200200"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-MrOllie-20230503201700-204.128.182.15-20230503200200"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Question" data-mw-thread-id="h-Question-20230504000800"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Question-20230504000800"></span>Question<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Question-20230504000800"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-2806:105E:14:8EDE:A0C4:8179:AD60:784E-20230504000800-Question"></span>What was wrong with my edit ? <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/2806:105E:14:8EDE:A0C4:8179:AD60:784E" title="Special:Contributions/2806:105E:14:8EDE:A0C4:8179:AD60:784E">2806:105E:14:8EDE:A0C4:8179:AD60:784E</a> (<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:2806:105E:14:8EDE:A0C4:8179:AD60:784E&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:2806:105E:14:8EDE:A0C4:8179:AD60:784E (page does not exist)">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-2806:105E:14:8EDE:A0C4:8179:AD60:784E-20230504000800-Question" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:08, 4 May 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-2806:105E:14:8EDE:A0C4:8179:AD60:784E-20230504000800-Question"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-2806:105E:14:8EDE:A0C4:8179:AD60:784E-20230504000800-Question"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-MrOllie-20230504001000-2806:105E:14:8EDE:A0C4:8179:AD60:784E-20230504000800"></span>Unreliable / spam sources and insertion of selfie images from a sock-puppeteer who has been blocked from wikipedia many times. <a href="/wiki/User:MrOllie" class="mw-redirect" title="User:MrOllie">MrOllie</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie#top" title="User talk:MrOllie">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-MrOllie-20230504001000-2806:105E:14:8EDE:A0C4:8179:AD60:784E-20230504000800" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:10, 4 May 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-MrOllie-20230504001000-2806:105E:14:8EDE:A0C4:8179:AD60:784E-20230504000800"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-MrOllie-20230504001000-2806:105E:14:8EDE:A0C4:8179:AD60:784E-20230504000800"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Psalms_2" data-mw-thread-id="h-Psalms_2-20230504004400"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Psalms_2-20230504004400"></span>Psalms<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Psalms_2-20230504004400"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Flamework-20230504004400-Psalms_2"></span>'Nope' is not a detailed or constructive response. Either provide analysis that is worthy of the name, or alternatively, you can provide a different suggestion. <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Flamework&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Flamework (page does not exist)">Flamework</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Flamework" title="User talk:Flamework">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-Flamework-20230504004400-Psalms_2" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:44, 4 May 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Flamework-20230504004400-Psalms_2"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Flamework-20230504004400-Psalms_2"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-MrOllie-20230504004600-Flamework-20230504004400"></span>I did, then you decided to revert again. The onus is on you to go to the talk page and get support for your proposed change. Edit warring will not work. <a href="/wiki/User:MrOllie" class="mw-redirect" title="User:MrOllie">MrOllie</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie#top" title="User talk:MrOllie">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-MrOllie-20230504004600-Flamework-20230504004400" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:46, 4 May 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-MrOllie-20230504004600-Flamework-20230504004400"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-MrOllie-20230504004600-Flamework-20230504004400"></span></dd></dl> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Flamework-20230504005200-Psalms_2"></span>I hear you, and appreciate the suggestion. That will be my next step. However, I'm sure you understand and agree that personal views and uncertainties presented as certainties have no place in Wikipedia. <small class="autosigned">— Preceding <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Signatures" title="Wikipedia:Signatures">unsigned</a> comment added by <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Flamework&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Flamework (page does not exist)">Flamework</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Flamework#top" title="User talk:Flamework">talk</a> • <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Flamework" title="Special:Contributions/Flamework">contribs</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-Flamework-20230504005200-Psalms_2" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:52, 4 May 2023 (UTC)</a></small><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Flamework-20230504005200-Psalms_2"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Flamework-20230504005200-Psalms_2"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-MrOllie-20230504005800-Flamework-20230504005200"></span>We follow the sources and reflect mainstream scholarship. We do not insert personal opinion in the article no - and we definitely do not do that by making mainstream scholarship appear to be less authoritative than it is. <a href="/wiki/User:MrOllie" class="mw-redirect" title="User:MrOllie">MrOllie</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie#top" title="User talk:MrOllie">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-MrOllie-20230504005800-Flamework-20230504005200" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:58, 4 May 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-MrOllie-20230504005800-Flamework-20230504005200"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-MrOllie-20230504005800-Flamework-20230504005200"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="World-Fashion" data-mw-thread-id="h-World-Fashion-20230507202300"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-World-Fashion-20230507202300"></span>World-Fashion<span data-mw-comment-end="h-World-Fashion-20230507202300"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Mushii56-20230507202300-World-Fashion"></span>Hi Mr Ollie, I want to add some valuable lines inside this article which will be very valuable to your website readers and help them to provide some valuable information, don't you want that? <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Mushii56&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Mushii56 (page does not exist)">Mushii56</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Mushii56" title="User talk:Mushii56">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-Mushii56-20230507202300-World-Fashion" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:23, 7 May 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Mushii56-20230507202300-World-Fashion"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Mushii56-20230507202300-World-Fashion"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Mushii56-20230507202800-Mushii56-20230507202300"></span>"<a href="/wiki/Milan_Fashion_Week" title="Milan Fashion Week">Milan Fashion Week</a>" I would like to add some of my valuable lines in this article and give my link. <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Mushii56&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Mushii56 (page does not exist)">Mushii56</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Mushii56" title="User talk:Mushii56">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-Mushii56-20230507202800-Mushii56-20230507202300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:28, 7 May 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Mushii56-20230507202800-Mushii56-20230507202300"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Mushii56-20230507202800-Mushii56-20230507202300"></span></dd></dl> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-MrOllie-20230507202900-Mushii56-20230507202300"></span>Wikipedia is not a place to promote your website. If you keep attempting to add it you can expect that your account will be blocked and/or your site will be added to Wikipedia's spam blacklist. Spam additions are not 'valuable'. - <a href="/wiki/User:MrOllie" class="mw-redirect" title="User:MrOllie">MrOllie</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie#top" title="User talk:MrOllie">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-MrOllie-20230507202900-Mushii56-20230507202300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:29, 7 May 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-MrOllie-20230507202900-Mushii56-20230507202300"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-MrOllie-20230507202900-Mushii56-20230507202300"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Mushii56-20230507203700-MrOllie-20230507202900"></span>I'm not recommending my own site, I just want to put some of my information on it And if you readers like my information, how can they get more information, that's why I wanted to add a link to my site. <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Mushii56&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Mushii56 (page does not exist)">Mushii56</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Mushii56" title="User talk:Mushii56">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-Mushii56-20230507203700-MrOllie-20230507202900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:37, 7 May 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Mushii56-20230507203700-MrOllie-20230507202900"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Mushii56-20230507203700-MrOllie-20230507202900"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Mushii56-20230507203800-Mushii56-20230507203700"></span>I just want to give my reference here <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Mushii56&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Mushii56 (page does not exist)">Mushii56</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Mushii56" title="User talk:Mushii56">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-Mushii56-20230507203800-Mushii56-20230507203700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:38, 7 May 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Mushii56-20230507203800-Mushii56-20230507203700"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Mushii56-20230507203800-Mushii56-20230507203700"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Mushii56-20230507204000-Mushii56-20230507203800"></span>It is not my intention to spam Wikipedia at all <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Mushii56&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Mushii56 (page does not exist)">Mushii56</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Mushii56" title="User talk:Mushii56">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-Mushii56-20230507204000-Mushii56-20230507203800" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:40, 7 May 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Mushii56-20230507204000-Mushii56-20230507203800"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Mushii56-20230507204000-Mushii56-20230507203800"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-MrOllie-20230507204100-Mushii56-20230507204000"></span>If you don't want to spam Wikipedia, simply do not add the external link again. <a href="/wiki/User:MrOllie" class="mw-redirect" title="User:MrOllie">MrOllie</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie#top" title="User talk:MrOllie">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-MrOllie-20230507204100-Mushii56-20230507204000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:41, 7 May 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-MrOllie-20230507204100-Mushii56-20230507204000"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-MrOllie-20230507204100-Mushii56-20230507204000"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Mushii56-20230507204300-MrOllie-20230507204100"></span>So what kind of link will Wikipedia accept? <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Mushii56&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Mushii56 (page does not exist)">Mushii56</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Mushii56" title="User talk:Mushii56">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-Mushii56-20230507204300-MrOllie-20230507204100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:43, 7 May 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Mushii56-20230507204300-MrOllie-20230507204100"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Mushii56-20230507204300-MrOllie-20230507204100"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-MrOllie-20230507204600-Mushii56-20230507204300"></span>Wikipedia will not accept any form of link to your website. <a href="/wiki/User:MrOllie" class="mw-redirect" title="User:MrOllie">MrOllie</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie#top" title="User talk:MrOllie">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-MrOllie-20230507204600-Mushii56-20230507204300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:46, 7 May 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-MrOllie-20230507204600-Mushii56-20230507204300"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-MrOllie-20230507204600-Mushii56-20230507204300"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Mushii56-20230507204700-MrOllie-20230507204600"></span>So what are the links I see within this article? <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Mushii56&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Mushii56 (page does not exist)">Mushii56</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Mushii56" title="User talk:Mushii56">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-Mushii56-20230507204700-MrOllie-20230507204600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:47, 7 May 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Mushii56-20230507204700-MrOllie-20230507204600"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Mushii56-20230507204700-MrOllie-20230507204600"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-MrOllie-20230507204900-Mushii56-20230507204700"></span>They meet our sourcing requirements. Your website does not. <a href="/wiki/User:MrOllie" class="mw-redirect" title="User:MrOllie">MrOllie</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie#top" title="User talk:MrOllie">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-MrOllie-20230507204900-Mushii56-20230507204700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:49, 7 May 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-MrOllie-20230507204900-Mushii56-20230507204700"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-MrOllie-20230507204900-Mushii56-20230507204700"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Mushii56-20230507205000-MrOllie-20230507204900"></span>These are the guidelines I want to know from you, my friend. <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Mushii56&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Mushii56 (page does not exist)">Mushii56</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Mushii56" title="User talk:Mushii56">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-Mushii56-20230507205000-MrOllie-20230507204900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:50, 7 May 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Mushii56-20230507205000-MrOllie-20230507204900"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Mushii56-20230507205000-MrOllie-20230507204900"></span></dd></dl></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Mushii56-20230507204900-Mushii56-20230507204700"></span>And how can I convey my information to your people through this article <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Mushii56&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Mushii56 (page does not exist)">Mushii56</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Mushii56" title="User talk:Mushii56">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-Mushii56-20230507204900-Mushii56-20230507204700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:49, 7 May 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Mushii56-20230507204900-Mushii56-20230507204700"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Mushii56-20230507204900-Mushii56-20230507204700"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-MrOllie-20230507205300-Mushii56-20230507204900"></span>I'm not going to debate Wikipedia sourcing with you. You have been warned what will happen if you continue to add the link. <a href="/wiki/User:MrOllie" class="mw-redirect" title="User:MrOllie">MrOllie</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie#top" title="User talk:MrOllie">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-MrOllie-20230507205300-Mushii56-20230507204900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:53, 7 May 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-MrOllie-20230507205300-Mushii56-20230507204900"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-MrOllie-20230507205300-Mushii56-20230507204900"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Mushii56-20230507205400-MrOllie-20230507205300"></span>ok <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Mushii56&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Mushii56 (page does not exist)">Mushii56</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Mushii56" title="User talk:Mushii56">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-Mushii56-20230507205400-MrOllie-20230507205300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:54, 7 May 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Mushii56-20230507205400-MrOllie-20230507205300"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Mushii56-20230507205400-MrOllie-20230507205300"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-2806:262:3404:145D:4D18:7ED4:A61B:42A4-20230508052000-Mushii56-20230507202300"></span>replay mushiii <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/2806:262:3404:145D:4D18:7ED4:A61B:42A4" title="Special:Contributions/2806:262:3404:145D:4D18:7ED4:A61B:42A4">2806:262:3404:145D:4D18:7ED4:A61B:42A4</a> (<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:2806:262:3404:145D:4D18:7ED4:A61B:42A4&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:2806:262:3404:145D:4D18:7ED4:A61B:42A4 (page does not exist)">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-2806:262:3404:145D:4D18:7ED4:A61B:42A4-20230508052000-Mushii56-20230507202300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">05:20, 8 May 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-2806:262:3404:145D:4D18:7ED4:A61B:42A4-20230508052000-Mushii56-20230507202300"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-2806:262:3404:145D:4D18:7ED4:A61B:42A4-20230508052000-Mushii56-20230507202300"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Better_Access_Scheme" data-mw-thread-id="h-Better_Access_Scheme-20230508121400"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Better_Access_Scheme-20230508121400"></span>Better Access Scheme<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Better_Access_Scheme-20230508121400"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Kuvesh-20230508121400-Better_Access_Scheme"></span>My edit is correct. The current rebate amount is $131.65 not the current lower value stated in the article. </p><p>Better Access Scheme: Revision history - Wikipedia <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Kuvesh&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Kuvesh (page does not exist)">Kuvesh</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Kuvesh" title="User talk:Kuvesh">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-Kuvesh-20230508121400-Better_Access_Scheme" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:14, 8 May 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Kuvesh-20230508121400-Better_Access_Scheme"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Kuvesh-20230508121400-Better_Access_Scheme"></span> </p><p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Kuvesh-20230508121900-Better_Access_Scheme"></span>My edit is correct. The motivation for other groups to lobby for the title psychologists is so they can access the Medicare rebates which are currently only applicable to AHPRA registered psychologists. </p><p>Psychologist: Difference between revisions - Wikipedia <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Kuvesh&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Kuvesh (page does not exist)">Kuvesh</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Kuvesh" title="User talk:Kuvesh">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-Kuvesh-20230508121900-Better_Access_Scheme" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:19, 8 May 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Kuvesh-20230508121900-Better_Access_Scheme"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Kuvesh-20230508121900-Better_Access_Scheme"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-MrOllie-20230508123300-Kuvesh-20230508121900"></span>Just stop adding spam links. Thanks. - <a href="/wiki/User:MrOllie" class="mw-redirect" title="User:MrOllie">MrOllie</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie#top" title="User talk:MrOllie">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-MrOllie-20230508123300-Kuvesh-20230508121900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:33, 8 May 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-MrOllie-20230508123300-Kuvesh-20230508121900"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-MrOllie-20230508123300-Kuvesh-20230508121900"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Women_In_STEM_fields" data-mw-thread-id="h-Women_In_STEM_fields-20230511113500"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Women_In_STEM_fields-20230511113500"></span>Women In STEM fields<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Women_In_STEM_fields-20230511113500"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Universitiesstemwomen-20230511113500-Women_In_STEM_fields"></span>Hi, please can you explain what was wrong with the links I added? STEM Women is a globally recognised organisation which works to address the underrepresentation of women in STEM and should therefore be listed under 'organized efforts'. Was there something wrong with the format of the link? </p><p>The STEM Women whitepaper is a fully researched annual publication which is utilised throughout STEM industries and higher education and is therefore a recognised publication. I'd be really grateful if you could explain how these links can be added. thanks. <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Universitiesstemwomen&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Universitiesstemwomen (page does not exist)">Universitiesstemwomen</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Universitiesstemwomen" title="User talk:Universitiesstemwomen">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-Universitiesstemwomen-20230511113500-Women_In_STEM_fields" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:35, 11 May 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Universitiesstemwomen-20230511113500-Women_In_STEM_fields"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Universitiesstemwomen-20230511113500-Women_In_STEM_fields"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-MrOllie-20230511113700-Universitiesstemwomen-20230511113500"></span>Wikipedia is not a place to promote your organization (even if it is a good cause), nor is it a place to list self published sources such as whitepapers (even if they are well researched). Please have a look at <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:NOTADVOCACY" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:NOTADVOCACY">WP:NOTADVOCACY</a>, <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:COI" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:COI">WP:COI</a>, and <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:ELNO" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:ELNO">WP:ELNO</a>. <a href="/wiki/User:MrOllie" class="mw-redirect" title="User:MrOllie">MrOllie</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie#top" title="User talk:MrOllie">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-MrOllie-20230511113700-Universitiesstemwomen-20230511113500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:37, 11 May 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-MrOllie-20230511113700-Universitiesstemwomen-20230511113500"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-MrOllie-20230511113700-Universitiesstemwomen-20230511113500"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Universitiesstemwomen-20230511120600-MrOllie-20230511113700"></span>Hi, so does the link have to be added by someone else? Or does it need to be a link from a different site?</dd> <dd>I don't understand how other (smaller and less-established) organisations have been added in this capacity? I will have a loo at these links but if you could explain how it is possible to add STEM Women as a link that would be really helpful. <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Universitiesstemwomen&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Universitiesstemwomen (page does not exist)">Universitiesstemwomen</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Universitiesstemwomen" title="User talk:Universitiesstemwomen">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-Universitiesstemwomen-20230511120600-MrOllie-20230511113700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:06, 11 May 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Universitiesstemwomen-20230511120600-MrOllie-20230511113700"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Universitiesstemwomen-20230511120600-MrOllie-20230511113700"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Universitiesstemwomen-20230511121000-Universitiesstemwomen-20230511120600"></span>Just to add, I do think that this would appear in an encyclopaedia under 'Women In STEM - organised efforts' as it is exactly that, and similar organisations are linked here. <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Universitiesstemwomen&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Universitiesstemwomen (page does not exist)">Universitiesstemwomen</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Universitiesstemwomen" title="User talk:Universitiesstemwomen">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-Universitiesstemwomen-20230511121000-Universitiesstemwomen-20230511120600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:10, 11 May 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Universitiesstemwomen-20230511121000-Universitiesstemwomen-20230511120600"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Universitiesstemwomen-20230511121000-Universitiesstemwomen-20230511120600"></span></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-MrOllie-20230511124600-Universitiesstemwomen-20230511120600"></span>The link is not appropriate for Wikipedia, it should not be added at all - not by you, and not by anyone else. <a href="/wiki/User:MrOllie" class="mw-redirect" title="User:MrOllie">MrOllie</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie#top" title="User talk:MrOllie">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-MrOllie-20230511124600-Universitiesstemwomen-20230511120600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:46, 11 May 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-MrOllie-20230511124600-Universitiesstemwomen-20230511120600"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-MrOllie-20230511124600-Universitiesstemwomen-20230511120600"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="List_of_Sudbury_Schools" data-mw-thread-id="h-List_of_Sudbury_Schools-20230511164300"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-List_of_Sudbury_Schools-20230511164300"></span>List of Sudbury Schools<span data-mw-comment-end="h-List_of_Sudbury_Schools-20230511164300"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Dualunity-20230511164300-List_of_Sudbury_Schools"></span>I noticed that you reverted the addition of the Boulder Sudbury School to this page. Do you have a reason for this? Also, there are many other Sudbury schools that need to be added for this page to be useful. <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Dualunity&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Dualunity (page does not exist)">Dualunity</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Dualunity" title="User talk:Dualunity">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-Dualunity-20230511164300-List_of_Sudbury_Schools" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:43, 11 May 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Dualunity-20230511164300-List_of_Sudbury_Schools"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Dualunity-20230511164300-List_of_Sudbury_Schools"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-MrOllie-20230511170900-Dualunity-20230511164300"></span>As already explained on your own talk page, that is a list of schools with preexisting Wikipedia articles. <a href="/wiki/User:MrOllie" class="mw-redirect" title="User:MrOllie">MrOllie</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie#top" title="User talk:MrOllie">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-MrOllie-20230511170900-Dualunity-20230511164300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:09, 11 May 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-MrOllie-20230511170900-Dualunity-20230511164300"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-MrOllie-20230511170900-Dualunity-20230511164300"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Dualunity-20230511184000-MrOllie-20230511170900"></span>The Boulder Sudbury School and many other schools that were previously listed on this page, long before any mention of "notable". The very idea of you gatekeeping this page is antithetical to the Sudbury model itself, which has no central authority, no certifying body, and has numerous manifestations appearing in different cultures around the world and can still call themselves Sudbury schools. <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Dualunity&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Dualunity (page does not exist)">Dualunity</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Dualunity" title="User talk:Dualunity">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-Dualunity-20230511184000-MrOllie-20230511170900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:40, 11 May 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Dualunity-20230511184000-MrOllie-20230511170900"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Dualunity-20230511184000-MrOllie-20230511170900"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-MrOllie-20230511184200-Dualunity-20230511184000"></span>Some amount of 'gatekeeping', as you call it, is necessary to keep the page in compliance with Wikipedia's policies. For example, we're not in the business of hosting directories of external links. <a href="/wiki/User:MrOllie" class="mw-redirect" title="User:MrOllie">MrOllie</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie#top" title="User talk:MrOllie">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-MrOllie-20230511184200-Dualunity-20230511184000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:42, 11 May 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-MrOllie-20230511184200-Dualunity-20230511184000"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-MrOllie-20230511184200-Dualunity-20230511184000"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Gerdau_Graphene" data-mw-thread-id="h-Gerdau_Graphene-20230512124800"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Gerdau_Graphene-20230512124800"></span>Gerdau Graphene<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Gerdau_Graphene-20230512124800"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-AaronEndre-20230512124800-Gerdau_Graphene"></span>Can you please explain your rationale for marking <a href="/w/index.php?title=Gerdau_Graphene&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Gerdau Graphene (page does not exist)">Gerdau Graphene</a> for speedy deletion? The contributions that the company has made to the graphene industry are both significant and noteworthy, evidenced by the independent editorial coverage about it. <a href="/wiki/User:AaronEndre" title="User:AaronEndre">AaronEndre</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:AaronEndre" title="User talk:AaronEndre">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-AaronEndre-20230512124800-Gerdau_Graphene" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:48, 12 May 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-AaronEndre-20230512124800-Gerdau_Graphene"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-AaronEndre-20230512124800-Gerdau_Graphene"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-MrOllie-20230512130000-AaronEndre-20230512124800"></span>It was obvious advertising. As a paid editor, you should not have created it in the article mainspace. Please read <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:COI" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:COI">WP:COI</a> and <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:PAID" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:PAID">WP:PAID</a> carefully, and use the <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:AFC" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:AFC">WP:AFC</a> process next time. <a href="/wiki/User:MrOllie" class="mw-redirect" title="User:MrOllie">MrOllie</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie#top" title="User talk:MrOllie">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-MrOllie-20230512130000-AaronEndre-20230512124800" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:00, 12 May 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-MrOllie-20230512130000-AaronEndre-20230512124800"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-MrOllie-20230512130000-AaronEndre-20230512124800"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Notes_on_the_Ease_of_Using_Cavalier_Axonometric_Projections" data-mw-thread-id="h-Notes_on_the_Ease_of_Using_Cavalier_Axonometric_Projections-20230512200300"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Notes_on_the_Ease_of_Using_Cavalier_Axonometric_Projections-20230512200300"></span>Notes on the Ease of Using Cavalier Axonometric Projections<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Notes_on_the_Ease_of_Using_Cavalier_Axonometric_Projections-20230512200300"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Hasanisawi-20230512200300-Notes_on_the_Ease_of_Using_Cavalier_Axonometric_Projections"></span>we can know what is the logical reason that led you to delete the following part: <copy and paste redacted> <a href="/wiki/User:Hasanisawi" title="User:Hasanisawi">Hasanisawi</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Hasanisawi" title="User talk:Hasanisawi">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-Hasanisawi-20230512200300-Notes_on_the_Ease_of_Using_Cavalier_Axonometric_Projections" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:03, 12 May 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Hasanisawi-20230512200300-Notes_on_the_Ease_of_Using_Cavalier_Axonometric_Projections"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Hasanisawi-20230512200300-Notes_on_the_Ease_of_Using_Cavalier_Axonometric_Projections"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-MrOllie-20230512200500-Hasanisawi-20230512200300"></span>You can't add your own thoughts to Wikipedia articles, and simply adding your name is not a usable citation. See <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:No_original_research" title="Wikipedia:No original research">Wikipedia:No original research</a>. - <a href="/wiki/User:MrOllie" class="mw-redirect" title="User:MrOllie">MrOllie</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie#top" title="User talk:MrOllie">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-MrOllie-20230512200500-Hasanisawi-20230512200300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:05, 12 May 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-MrOllie-20230512200500-Hasanisawi-20230512200300"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-MrOllie-20230512200500-Hasanisawi-20230512200300"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Hasanisawi-20230512201400-MrOllie-20230512200500"></span>if the person who wrote the information has extensive experience in the field of teaching descriptive geometry, his or her name is sufficient as endorsement for the written information.</dd> <dd>however, I will now put my published book as a reference <a href="/wiki/User:Hasanisawi" title="User:Hasanisawi">Hasanisawi</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Hasanisawi" title="User talk:Hasanisawi">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-Hasanisawi-20230512201400-MrOllie-20230512200500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:14, 12 May 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Hasanisawi-20230512201400-MrOllie-20230512200500"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Hasanisawi-20230512201400-MrOllie-20230512200500"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-MrOllie-20230512201500-Hasanisawi-20230512201400"></span>No, not on Wikipedia, again, read <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:NOR" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:NOR">WP:NOR</a>. Also have a look at <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:COI" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:COI">WP:COI</a>, you really should not be citing yourself either. <a href="/wiki/User:MrOllie" class="mw-redirect" title="User:MrOllie">MrOllie</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie#top" title="User talk:MrOllie">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-MrOllie-20230512201500-Hasanisawi-20230512201400" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:15, 12 May 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-MrOllie-20230512201500-Hasanisawi-20230512201400"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-MrOllie-20230512201500-Hasanisawi-20230512201400"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Baby_Einstein" data-mw-thread-id="h-Baby_Einstein-20230513150100"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Baby_Einstein-20230513150100"></span>Baby Einstein<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Baby_Einstein-20230513150100"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-WacoBell-20230513150100-Baby_Einstein"></span>Hello Ollie, I have a question, does Aigner-Clark own Kids2? Because that would be the only way that she owns Baby Einstein, <a href="/wiki/User:WacoBell" title="User:WacoBell">WacoBell</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:WacoBell" title="User talk:WacoBell">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-WacoBell-20230513150100-Baby_Einstein" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:01, 13 May 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-WacoBell-20230513150100-Baby_Einstein"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-WacoBell-20230513150100-Baby_Einstein"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-MrOllie-20230513150500-WacoBell-20230513150100"></span>I don't really find that question to be relevant (see <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:NOR" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:NOR">WP:NOR</a>). If you want to change an article, you need to cite a source. <a href="/wiki/User:MrOllie" class="mw-redirect" title="User:MrOllie">MrOllie</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie#top" title="User talk:MrOllie">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-MrOllie-20230513150500-WacoBell-20230513150100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:05, 13 May 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-MrOllie-20230513150500-WacoBell-20230513150100"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-MrOllie-20230513150500-WacoBell-20230513150100"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-WacoBell-20230514214800-MrOllie-20230513150500"></span>Please answer my question. <a href="/wiki/User:WacoBell" title="User:WacoBell">WacoBell</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:WacoBell" title="User talk:WacoBell">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-WacoBell-20230514214800-MrOllie-20230513150500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:48, 14 May 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-WacoBell-20230514214800-MrOllie-20230513150500"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-WacoBell-20230514214800-MrOllie-20230513150500"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Apology_note" data-mw-thread-id="h-Apology_note-20230513123000"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Apology_note-20230513123000"></span>Apology note<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Apology_note-20230513123000"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Sundropie-20230513123000-Apology_note"></span>I want to owe you an apology for what happened two days ago. The driver in my laptop went bad since last week and I was so upset about it, but its got a new one now. <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Sundropie&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Sundropie (page does not exist)">Sundropie</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Sundropie" title="User talk:Sundropie">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-Sundropie-20230513123000-Apology_note" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:30, 13 May 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Sundropie-20230513123000-Apology_note"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Sundropie-20230513123000-Apology_note"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Alex_Britan_jhon-20230517150400-Sundropie-20230513123000"></span>Hope you are safe. <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Alex_Britan_jhon&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Alex Britan jhon (page does not exist)">Alex Britan jhon</a> (<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Alex_Britan_jhon&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:Alex Britan jhon (page does not exist)">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-Alex_Britan_jhon-20230517150400-Sundropie-20230513123000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:04, 17 May 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Alex_Britan_jhon-20230517150400-Sundropie-20230513123000"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Alex_Britan_jhon-20230517150400-Sundropie-20230513123000"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="U_have_no_knowledge_about_Sikhism." data-mw-thread-id="h-U_have_no_knowledge_about_Sikhism.-20230518044500"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-U_have_no_knowledge_about_Sikhism.-20230518044500"></span>U have no knowledge about Sikhism.<span data-mw-comment-end="h-U_have_no_knowledge_about_Sikhism.-20230518044500"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Chaitanya_kalra-20230518044500-U_have_no_knowledge_about_Sikhism."></span>sikhism is a philosophy & theology of which elements are same in vaishnav vedanta & islam. As a north west indian, and follower of sikhism & vedanta, i know better than u bastard. Sikhism is not defined by khalsa tradition alone. Any person can be sikh if he follows the teachings of gurubani and believe in oneness of truthful religions & Oneness of God the almighty the eternal, and follow these simple terms " naam japo, kirt karo, wand chhako" & " mangeyo sarbat da bhalaa". There is no religious barrier in sikhism defined by GURU NANAK JI but barrier was created by some vandals like SGPC, Akalis, & singh sabha. There are more in triple amounts of hindus that follow sikhism than khalsa followers. Khalsa is a sect of sikhism. Sikhism is not equal to khalsa. Revert by original edits that i published in sikhism & sikh related sections of Wikipedia. I have researched about the whole topics and reality is there are about 15 crore sikhs. akalis just marginalized & limited sikh identity for their own selfish purposes. <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Chaitanya_kalra&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Chaitanya kalra (page does not exist)">Chaitanya kalra</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Chaitanya_kalra" title="User talk:Chaitanya kalra">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-Chaitanya_kalra-20230518044500-U_have_no_knowledge_about_Sikhism." class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">04:45, 18 May 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Chaitanya_kalra-20230518044500-U_have_no_knowledge_about_Sikhism."></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Chaitanya_kalra-20230518044500-U_have_no_knowledge_about_Sikhism."></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-MrOllie-20230518113700-Chaitanya_kalra-20230518044500"></span>See <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:NOR" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:NOR">WP:NOR</a>. You must cite sources for your additions, and you must make some effort to format them correctly - simply adding unsourced text to the top of an article is not going to work. Making personal attacks on other editors will not help the situation. <a href="/wiki/User:MrOllie" class="mw-redirect" title="User:MrOllie">MrOllie</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie#top" title="User talk:MrOllie">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-MrOllie-20230518113700-Chaitanya_kalra-20230518044500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:37, 18 May 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-MrOllie-20230518113700-Chaitanya_kalra-20230518044500"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-MrOllie-20230518113700-Chaitanya_kalra-20230518044500"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Vandalism_and_Unconstructive_Edits" data-mw-thread-id="h-Vandalism_and_Unconstructive_Edits-20230519202500"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Vandalism_and_Unconstructive_Edits-20230519202500"></span>Vandalism and Unconstructive Edits<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Vandalism_and_Unconstructive_Edits-20230519202500"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-MrJAndTheGroovyGangFan-20230519202500-Vandalism_and_Unconstructive_Edits"></span>Hello, earlier you mentioned on my talk page that I had made unconstructive edits. Which edits were you referring to, and why? <a href="/wiki/User:MrJAndTheGroovyGangFan" title="User:MrJAndTheGroovyGangFan">MrJAndTheGroovyGangFan</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:MrJAndTheGroovyGangFan" title="User talk:MrJAndTheGroovyGangFan">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-MrJAndTheGroovyGangFan-20230519202500-Vandalism_and_Unconstructive_Edits" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:25, 19 May 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-MrJAndTheGroovyGangFan-20230519202500-Vandalism_and_Unconstructive_Edits"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-MrJAndTheGroovyGangFan-20230519202500-Vandalism_and_Unconstructive_Edits"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-MrOllie-20230519202800-MrJAndTheGroovyGangFan-20230519202500"></span>All of your edits to date. <a href="/wiki/User:MrOllie" class="mw-redirect" title="User:MrOllie">MrOllie</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie#top" title="User talk:MrOllie">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-MrOllie-20230519202800-MrJAndTheGroovyGangFan-20230519202500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:28, 19 May 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-MrOllie-20230519202800-MrJAndTheGroovyGangFan-20230519202500"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-MrOllie-20230519202800-MrJAndTheGroovyGangFan-20230519202500"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-MrJAndTheGroovyGangFan-20230519203000-MrOllie-20230519202800"></span>What made them unconstructive? <a href="/wiki/User:MrJAndTheGroovyGangFan" title="User:MrJAndTheGroovyGangFan">MrJAndTheGroovyGangFan</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:MrJAndTheGroovyGangFan" title="User talk:MrJAndTheGroovyGangFan">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-MrJAndTheGroovyGangFan-20230519203000-MrOllie-20230519202800" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:30, 19 May 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-MrJAndTheGroovyGangFan-20230519203000-MrOllie-20230519202800"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-MrJAndTheGroovyGangFan-20230519203000-MrOllie-20230519202800"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Sundayclose-20230519210500-MrJAndTheGroovyGangFan-20230519203000"></span>This vandal is now indeffed. <a href="/wiki/User:Sundayclose" title="User:Sundayclose">Sundayclose</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Sundayclose" title="User talk:Sundayclose">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-Sundayclose-20230519210500-MrJAndTheGroovyGangFan-20230519203000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:05, 19 May 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Sundayclose-20230519210500-MrJAndTheGroovyGangFan-20230519203000"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Sundayclose-20230519210500-MrJAndTheGroovyGangFan-20230519203000"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="User_talk:IshmaelAlZahid" data-mw-thread-id="h-User_talk:IshmaelAlZahid-20230520002500"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-User_talk:IshmaelAlZahid-20230520002500"></span><a href="/wiki/User_talk:IshmaelAlZahid" title="User talk:IshmaelAlZahid">User talk:IshmaelAlZahid</a><span data-mw-comment-end="h-User_talk:IshmaelAlZahid-20230520002500"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Drmies-20230520002500-User_talk:IshmaelAlZahid"></span>I didn't see the vandalism in their edit. <a href="/wiki/User:Drmies" title="User:Drmies">Drmies</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Drmies" title="User talk:Drmies">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-Drmies-20230520002500-User_talk:IshmaelAlZahid" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:25, 20 May 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Drmies-20230520002500-User_talk:IshmaelAlZahid"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Drmies-20230520002500-User_talk:IshmaelAlZahid"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-MrOllie-20230520002800-Drmies-20230520002500"></span>It's a continuation of edits made by <span class="plainlinks userlinks"><span class="userlinks-username"><a href="/w/index.php?title=User:181.63.178.16&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:181.63.178.16 (page does not exist)">181.63.178.16</a> </span><span class="plainlinks">(<a href="/wiki/User_talk:181.63.178.16" title="User talk:181.63.178.16">talk</a> <b>·</b> <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/181.63.178.16" title="Special:Contributions/181.63.178.16">contribs</a> <b>·</b> <a class="external text" href="https://tools.wmflabs.org/whois/gateway.py?lookup=true&ip=181.63.178.16">WHOIS</a>)</span></span>. They think that tobacco cures cancer. <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1248585704"><q class="inline-quote-talk">supossed damaging effects on human health</q>, etc. <a href="/wiki/User:MrOllie" class="mw-redirect" title="User:MrOllie">MrOllie</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie#top" title="User talk:MrOllie">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-MrOllie-20230520002800-Drmies-20230520002500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:28, 20 May 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-MrOllie-20230520002800-Drmies-20230520002500"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-MrOllie-20230520002800-Drmies-20230520002500"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Edgar_Mobbs" data-mw-thread-id="h-Edgar_Mobbs-20230521185200"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Edgar_Mobbs-20230521185200"></span>Edgar Mobbs<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Edgar_Mobbs-20230521185200"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Dewittekat-20230521185200-Edgar_Mobbs"></span>This place in Zillebeke is of course a special place. It was during the war that Mobbs died in Flanders Fields. This is a place where Mobbs is especially commemorated in Flanders Fields. Of course it has everything to do with the fact that 'we remember them'<a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Dewittekat&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Dewittekat (page does not exist)">Dewittekat</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Dewittekat" title="User talk:Dewittekat">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-Dewittekat-20230521185200-Edgar_Mobbs" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:52, 21 May 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Dewittekat-20230521185200-Edgar_Mobbs"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Dewittekat-20230521185200-Edgar_Mobbs"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-MrOllie-20230521185600-Dewittekat-20230521185200"></span>That article is short enough that the two existing images are plenty for the length. Even if that weren't the case, adding those images above even the portrait of the biography subject is obviously not helpful. <a href="/wiki/User:MrOllie" class="mw-redirect" title="User:MrOllie">MrOllie</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie#top" title="User talk:MrOllie">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-MrOllie-20230521185600-Dewittekat-20230521185200" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:56, 21 May 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-MrOllie-20230521185600-Dewittekat-20230521185200"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-MrOllie-20230521185600-Dewittekat-20230521185200"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Dewittekat-20230521191500-MrOllie-20230521185600"></span>As well as in England as in Flanders there is place for commemoration.</dd> <dd>The group who visited this place today found that there should be on Wikipedia of this place in Flanders Fields.</dd> <dd>Edgar Mobbs was a very good rugbyplayer, therefor is the picture of the little statue. For rugbyplayers, he is a hero. <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Dewittekat&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Dewittekat (page does not exist)">Dewittekat</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Dewittekat" title="User talk:Dewittekat">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-Dewittekat-20230521191500-MrOllie-20230521185600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:15, 21 May 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Dewittekat-20230521191500-MrOllie-20230521185600"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Dewittekat-20230521191500-MrOllie-20230521185600"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-MrOllie-20230521191700-Dewittekat-20230521191500"></span>None of that has anything to do with what I just said. <a href="/wiki/User:MrOllie" class="mw-redirect" title="User:MrOllie">MrOllie</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie#top" title="User talk:MrOllie">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-MrOllie-20230521191700-Dewittekat-20230521191500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:17, 21 May 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-MrOllie-20230521191700-Dewittekat-20230521191500"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-MrOllie-20230521191700-Dewittekat-20230521191500"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <p><br/> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Review_Bombing_Assistance" data-mw-thread-id="h-Review_Bombing_Assistance-20230522013700"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Review_Bombing_Assistance-20230522013700"></span>Review Bombing Assistance<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Review_Bombing_Assistance-20230522013700"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-CanaTheNeko-20230522013700-Review_Bombing_Assistance"></span>Recently put in an update to the "Review Bombing" topic with the recent events within the warthunder community. I read why you undid it and I understand and would like some assistance with updating it to get it published. I understand my sources arent clear, my attempt with my published sources was to show the original data. For example, the PhlyDaily video is the actual video, the original content that describes my passage. And the steam pages are to show the change in the Review status as a result of the review bombing. How can I better present my sources and data to get it published? Do I need it from a second hand source like a news article, or how else can I frame the original sources (steam page and youtube video) to make what im citing more clear? Any assistance to get this formalized and published would be great, thanks. <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:CanaTheNeko&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:CanaTheNeko (page does not exist)">CanaTheNeko</a> (<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:CanaTheNeko&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:CanaTheNeko (page does not exist)">talk</a>) <small class="autosigned">— Preceding <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Signatures" title="Wikipedia:Signatures">undated</a> comment added <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-CanaTheNeko-20230522013700-Review_Bombing_Assistance" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">01:37, 22 May 2023 (UTC)</a></small><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-CanaTheNeko-20230522013700-Review_Bombing_Assistance"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-CanaTheNeko-20230522013700-Review_Bombing_Assistance"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-MrOllie-20230522114900-CanaTheNeko-20230522013700"></span>Yes, you need a secondary source suggest as a news article. Youtube videos and such are not sufficient. <a href="/wiki/User:MrOllie" class="mw-redirect" title="User:MrOllie">MrOllie</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie#top" title="User talk:MrOllie">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-MrOllie-20230522114900-CanaTheNeko-20230522013700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:49, 22 May 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-MrOllie-20230522114900-CanaTheNeko-20230522013700"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-MrOllie-20230522114900-CanaTheNeko-20230522013700"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-1AmNobody24-20230522122900-MrOllie-20230522114900"></span>Ollie would <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.pcgamesn.com/war-thunder/review-bombs">this</a> by <a href="/wiki/PCGamesN" title="PCGamesN">PCGamesN</a> and <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.autoevolution.com/news/war-thunder-fans-declare-war-on-gaijin-entertainment-review-bomb-their-steam-page-215346.html">this</a> by <a href="/wiki/Autoevolution" class="mw-redirect" title="Autoevolution">Autoevolution</a> work? <a href="/wiki/User:1AmNobody24" title="User:1AmNobody24"><span style="border:1px solid black;padding:1px;background-color: #4D4DFF;color: white">Nobody</span></a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:1AmNobody24" title="User talk:1AmNobody24"><span style="color: #4D4DFF">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-1AmNobody24-20230522122900-MrOllie-20230522114900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:29, 22 May 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-1AmNobody24-20230522122900-MrOllie-20230522114900"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-1AmNobody24-20230522122900-MrOllie-20230522114900"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-MrOllie-20230522131500-1AmNobody24-20230522122900"></span>I would use the PCGamesN source. <a href="/wiki/User:MrOllie" class="mw-redirect" title="User:MrOllie">MrOllie</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie#top" title="User talk:MrOllie">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-MrOllie-20230522131500-1AmNobody24-20230522122900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:15, 22 May 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-MrOllie-20230522131500-1AmNobody24-20230522122900"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-MrOllie-20230522131500-1AmNobody24-20230522122900"></span> <dl><dd>I've updated the page with secondary sources rather than primary, although there are a few things that I still do not know how to site as its just data from these websites, like the number of reddit users in the WTPU, or the video that PhlyDaily posted. Assistance on how to cite these primary sources would be appreciated since they are vital to the current events occurring within warthunder. <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:CanaTheNeko&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:CanaTheNeko (page does not exist)">CanaTheNeko</a> (<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:CanaTheNeko&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:CanaTheNeko (page does not exist)">talk</a>)</dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="tree_shaping" data-mw-thread-id="h-tree_shaping-20230523141000"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-tree_shaping-20230523141000"></span>tree shaping<span data-mw-comment-end="h-tree_shaping-20230523141000"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-David_Goldstein_154-20230523141000-tree_shaping"></span>Hi you did a revert of my edit why <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:David_Goldstein_154&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:David Goldstein 154 (page does not exist)">David Goldstein 154</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:David_Goldstein_154" title="User talk:David Goldstein 154">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-David_Goldstein_154-20230523141000-tree_shaping" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:10, 23 May 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-David_Goldstein_154-20230523141000-tree_shaping"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-David_Goldstein_154-20230523141000-tree_shaping"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-MrOllie-20230523141200-David_Goldstein_154-20230523141000"></span>It was badly written and served to inappropriately promote designers in the lead section of the article. <a href="/wiki/User:MrOllie" class="mw-redirect" title="User:MrOllie">MrOllie</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie#top" title="User talk:MrOllie">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-MrOllie-20230523141200-David_Goldstein_154-20230523141000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:12, 23 May 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-MrOllie-20230523141200-David_Goldstein_154-20230523141000"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-MrOllie-20230523141200-David_Goldstein_154-20230523141000"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-David_Goldstein_154-20230523145000-MrOllie-20230523141200"></span>SilkTork said it should be in there on the talk page it was removed by Netherzone <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:David_Goldstein_154&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:David Goldstein 154 (page does not exist)">David Goldstein 154</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:David_Goldstein_154" title="User talk:David Goldstein 154">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-David_Goldstein_154-20230523145000-MrOllie-20230523141200" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:50, 23 May 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-David_Goldstein_154-20230523145000-MrOllie-20230523141200"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-David_Goldstein_154-20230523145000-MrOllie-20230523141200"></span> <dl><dd><span style="font-size:smaller;"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Bishonen-20230523150700-David_Goldstein_154-20230523145000"></span>(<a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Talk_page_stalker" title="Wikipedia:Talk page stalker">talk page stalker</a>)</span> <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Diff" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:Diff">Diff</a>, please, <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:David_Goldstein_154&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:David Goldstein 154 (page does not exist)">David Goldstein 154</a>? SilkTork hasn't edited <a href="/wiki/Talk:Tree_shaping" title="Talk:Tree shaping">Talk:Tree shaping</a> since August 2021. Not that SilkTork saying it should be in there would trump MrOllie's comment that it was badly written and inappropriately promoted some designers. <a href="/wiki/User:Bishonen" title="User:Bishonen">Bishonen</a> | <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Bishonen" title="User talk:Bishonen">tålk</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-Bishonen-20230523150700-David_Goldstein_154-20230523145000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:07, 23 May 2023 (UTC)</a>.<span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Bishonen-20230523150700-David_Goldstein_154-20230523145000"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Bishonen-20230523150700-David_Goldstein_154-20230523145000"></span></dd> <dd><sup><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Bon_courage-20230523151100-David_Goldstein_154-20230523145000"></span>(<span class="mw-default-size" typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:SMirC-ass.svg" class="mw-file-description" title="(_*_)"><img alt="orange butt icon" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/10/SMirC-ass.svg/20px-SMirC-ass.svg.png" decoding="async" width="20" height="20" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/10/SMirC-ass.svg/30px-SMirC-ass.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/10/SMirC-ass.svg/40px-SMirC-ass.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="320" data-file-height="320"/></a></span> <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Talk_page_stalker" title="Wikipedia:Talk page stalker">Buttinsky</a>)</sup> Ah Tree Shaping, one of the most controversial<a class="external autonumber" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Tree_shaping">[8]</a> areas on Wikipedia (used to be subject to discretionary sanctions ISTR). <a href="/wiki/User:Bon_courage" title="User:Bon courage">Bon courage</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Bon_courage" title="User talk:Bon courage">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-Bon_courage-20230523151100-David_Goldstein_154-20230523145000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:11, 23 May 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Bon_courage-20230523151100-David_Goldstein_154-20230523145000"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Bon_courage-20230523151100-David_Goldstein_154-20230523145000"></span></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Roxy_the_dog-20230523155500-David_Goldstein_154-20230523145000"></span>Got me stumped. <a href="/wiki/User:Roxy_the_dog" title="User:Roxy the dog"><b>Roxy</b> the</a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Roxy_the_dog" title="User talk:Roxy the dog"><b>dog</b></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-Roxy_the_dog-20230523155500-David_Goldstein_154-20230523145000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:55, 23 May 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Roxy_the_dog-20230523155500-David_Goldstein_154-20230523145000"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Roxy_the_dog-20230523155500-David_Goldstein_154-20230523145000"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="OCR" data-mw-thread-id="h-OCR-20230525162800"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-OCR-20230525162800"></span>OCR<span data-mw-comment-end="h-OCR-20230525162800"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-The-Dubnob-20230525162800-OCR"></span>You have to understand that I am not specific to Adobe. The reference was put in place because I felt a new one was required, I was not aware of the fact that Vendor's should not be relied on. The description is independent and has the right to stand own it's own. It is detailed and understandable to the non technical users of wikipedia. <a href="/wiki/User:The-Dubnob" title="User:The-Dubnob">The-Dubnob</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-The-Dubnob-20230525162800-OCR" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:28, 25 May 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-The-Dubnob-20230525162800-OCR"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-The-Dubnob-20230525162800-OCR"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-MrOllie-20230525163000-The-Dubnob-20230525162800"></span>You changes tie OCR to a specific file format (Adobe's PDF) which is plainly incorrect. It also limits OCR to match the limitations of Adobe's software ('printed text'), also incorrect. If you have any follow up, direct your comments to the article's associated talk page. My user talk is not the correct place for article-specific discussion. <a href="/wiki/User:MrOllie" class="mw-redirect" title="User:MrOllie">MrOllie</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie#top" title="User talk:MrOllie">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-MrOllie-20230525163000-The-Dubnob-20230525162800" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:30, 25 May 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-MrOllie-20230525163000-The-Dubnob-20230525162800"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-MrOllie-20230525163000-The-Dubnob-20230525162800"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="ANI_2" data-mw-thread-id="h-ANI_2-20230525232100"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-ANI_2-20230525232100"></span>ANI<span data-mw-comment-end="h-ANI_2-20230525232100"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-AndyTheGrump-20230525232100-ANI_2"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img alt="Information icon" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/1/1d/Information_icon4.svg/25px-Information_icon4.svg.png" decoding="async" width="25" height="25" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/1/1d/Information_icon4.svg/38px-Information_icon4.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/1/1d/Information_icon4.svg/50px-Information_icon4.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="620" data-file-height="620"/></span></span> There is currently a discussion at <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/Incidents" title="Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents">Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents</a> regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Thank you. (Posted on behalf of the IP, see <a class="external autonumber" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/Incidents#Request_removal_of_name_from_talk_pages">[9]</a>) <a href="/wiki/User:AndyTheGrump" title="User:AndyTheGrump">AndyTheGrump</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:AndyTheGrump" title="User talk:AndyTheGrump">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-AndyTheGrump-20230525232100-ANI_2" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:21, 25 May 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-AndyTheGrump-20230525232100-ANI_2"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-AndyTheGrump-20230525232100-ANI_2"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Spam_link?" data-mw-thread-id="h-Spam_link?-20230526020800"><span id="Spam_link.3F"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Spam_link?-20230526020800"></span>Spam link?<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Spam_link?-20230526020800"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-49.185.64.26-20230526020800-Spam_link?"></span>I was adding more information on nail tips and my cite was removed as it was a "spam link"? I assume this is due to my citing error, as I have no affiliation with anything in that link. I'm sorry! <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/49.185.64.26" title="Special:Contributions/49.185.64.26">49.185.64.26</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:49.185.64.26" title="User talk:49.185.64.26">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-49.185.64.26-20230526020800-Spam_link?" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">02:08, 26 May 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-49.185.64.26-20230526020800-Spam_link?"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-49.185.64.26-20230526020800-Spam_link?"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-MrOllie-20230526021200-49.185.64.26-20230526020800"></span>Please review <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:RS" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:RS">WP:RS</a>, and do not use affiliate marketing blogs or other forms of advertising as sources in the future. Thanks. <a href="/wiki/User:MrOllie" class="mw-redirect" title="User:MrOllie">MrOllie</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie#top" title="User talk:MrOllie">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-MrOllie-20230526021200-49.185.64.26-20230526020800" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">02:12, 26 May 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-MrOllie-20230526021200-49.185.64.26-20230526020800"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-MrOllie-20230526021200-49.185.64.26-20230526020800"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-49.185.64.26-20230526024800-MrOllie-20230526021200"></span>Okay. Will do in my spare time! <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/49.185.64.26" title="Special:Contributions/49.185.64.26">49.185.64.26</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:49.185.64.26" title="User talk:49.185.64.26">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-49.185.64.26-20230526024800-MrOllie-20230526021200" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">02:48, 26 May 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-49.185.64.26-20230526024800-MrOllie-20230526021200"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-49.185.64.26-20230526024800-MrOllie-20230526021200"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Removal_of_additions_to_a_page" data-mw-thread-id="h-Removal_of_additions_to_a_page-20230526181500"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Removal_of_additions_to_a_page-20230526181500"></span>Removal of additions to a page<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Removal_of_additions_to_a_page-20230526181500"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-2600:4041:44BD:E000:B9F0:BBAB:8183:218A-20230526181500-Removal_of_additions_to_a_page"></span>Hello MrOllie, I received a notification from you that some external links I added to a page were removed because they "don't seem appropriate for an encyclopedia." Obviously, that is your call but I don't understand why they were any less appropriate than the other entries in that section. Can you please explain to me the reasoning behind your actions and let me know if there is another way I can add those names to that page without violating any Wiki rules? Thank you. <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/2600:4041:44BD:E000:B9F0:BBAB:8183:218A" title="Special:Contributions/2600:4041:44BD:E000:B9F0:BBAB:8183:218A">2600:4041:44BD:E000:B9F0:BBAB:8183:218A</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:2600:4041:44BD:E000:B9F0:BBAB:8183:218A" title="User talk:2600:4041:44BD:E000:B9F0:BBAB:8183:218A">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-2600:4041:44BD:E000:B9F0:BBAB:8183:218A-20230526181500-Removal_of_additions_to_a_page" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:15, 26 May 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-2600:4041:44BD:E000:B9F0:BBAB:8183:218A-20230526181500-Removal_of_additions_to_a_page"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-2600:4041:44BD:E000:B9F0:BBAB:8183:218A-20230526181500-Removal_of_additions_to_a_page"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-MrOllie-20230526181800-2600:4041:44BD:E000:B9F0:BBAB:8183:218A-20230526181500"></span>The other entries in that section are links to preexisting Wikipedia articles. You added an external link to somebody's website. You really don't understand the difference? <a href="/wiki/User:MrOllie" class="mw-redirect" title="User:MrOllie">MrOllie</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie#top" title="User talk:MrOllie">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-MrOllie-20230526181800-2600:4041:44BD:E000:B9F0:BBAB:8183:218A-20230526181500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:18, 26 May 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-MrOllie-20230526181800-2600:4041:44BD:E000:B9F0:BBAB:8183:218A-20230526181500"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-MrOllie-20230526181800-2600:4041:44BD:E000:B9F0:BBAB:8183:218A-20230526181500"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Reverts_of_terminology_on_Imageboard_page" data-mw-thread-id="h-Reverts_of_terminology_on_Imageboard_page-20230526234700"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Reverts_of_terminology_on_Imageboard_page-20230526234700"></span>Reverts of terminology on Imageboard page<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Reverts_of_terminology_on_Imageboard_page-20230526234700"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-82.0.22.83-20230526234700-Reverts_of_terminology_on_Imageboard_page"></span>I've noticed that you've reverted a previous edit to the Wizardchan header section of the 'Imageboard' page. Your previous edits to said page seem justified, but this particular one was uninformed of the website's current rules. Wizardchan's Global Rule 2 states verbatim: "Do not state or suggest that you had, will have or want to have sexual or romantic experiences." You can verify this from an easily accessible link from the main page. </p><p><a class="external free" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Imageboard&diff=prev&oldid=1136984337">https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Imageboard&diff=prev&oldid=1136984337</a> </p><p>Regarding the term you restored, it was originally added by an editor (linked above) who implicitly carried a grudge against the website, hence their distaste towards terminology with neutral connotations. <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/82.0.22.83" title="Special:Contributions/82.0.22.83">82.0.22.83</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:82.0.22.83" title="User talk:82.0.22.83">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-82.0.22.83-20230526234700-Reverts_of_terminology_on_Imageboard_page" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:47, 26 May 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-82.0.22.83-20230526234700-Reverts_of_terminology_on_Imageboard_page"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-82.0.22.83-20230526234700-Reverts_of_terminology_on_Imageboard_page"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-MrOllie-20230527014100-82.0.22.83-20230526234700"></span>Wikipedia follows what independent sources say about a subject, not what the subject says about itself. <a href="/wiki/User:MrOllie" class="mw-redirect" title="User:MrOllie">MrOllie</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie#top" title="User talk:MrOllie">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-MrOllie-20230527014100-82.0.22.83-20230526234700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">01:41, 27 May 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-MrOllie-20230527014100-82.0.22.83-20230526234700"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-MrOllie-20230527014100-82.0.22.83-20230526234700"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="2014_Court_Order_copies_sent_to_Wikipedia_Legal_and_Arbcom" data-mw-thread-id="h-2014_Court_Order_copies_sent_to_Wikipedia_Legal_and_Arbcom-20230527064200"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-2014_Court_Order_copies_sent_to_Wikipedia_Legal_and_Arbcom-20230527064200"></span>2014 Court Order copies sent to Wikipedia Legal and Arbcom<span data-mw-comment-end="h-2014_Court_Order_copies_sent_to_Wikipedia_Legal_and_Arbcom-20230527064200"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-2604:1580:FE00:5:0:0:0:416-20230527064200-2014_Court_Order_copies_sent_to_Wikipedia_Legal_and_Arbcom"></span>Be advised copies of a restraining order obtained in 2014 against a stalker fan of a well known film and television actress and her acquaintance, have been sent to and were received today, to both the Wikipedia legal and arbitration departments. The fan in question has stalked both victims in person, and online since 2009. He has impersonated one of the victims, a personal assistant to one of this world’s best known actor’s, here within Wikipedia, and at various other internet sites, using a variation of the victims first and middle given names, otherwise referred to as socks, for many years, which you recently linked to in an administrative page discussion. The sock page investigation discussed, is the stalker fan. The fan has posted threats and sent threatening emails to both victims. The court specifically ordered all online blogs, posts, tweets and references to both victims names be removed anywhere the stalker posted the names, from all internet sites. You have been previously advised of this matter and you were advised of the existence of the court restraining order. Although attempts have been made to remove those names at the Wikipedia pages in question, to redact them, as it is referred to here, in recent months, regardless both you, and another editor have reverted those attempts. The stalker fan has an active warrant for his arrest for said actions and for his ongoing cyber harassment of both victims. He is a former computer tech specialist and self described hacker. Please refrain from aiding this stalker fan in his violation of the restraining order, reverting the victims names the stalker blogged, while your legal department reviews the court order and our demand that victims names be blanked from the Wikipedia talk pages at the victims colleges he attended, and the religious television show the victim is in no way, connected to. It has also been brought to our attention you reinserted one of the victims names back into the page content of the religion television series, yesterday, after it had been removed at that particular talk page, for six years. Once again, this matter is now in the capable hands of Wikipedia Legal and arbcom, to comply with the judges order that the names be removed from all internet sites where the stalker fan inserted the names, including the pages you described herein which you have recently edited, and with which you are well familiar. Regards and many thanks. <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/2604:1580:FE00:5:0:0:0:416" title="Special:Contributions/2604:1580:FE00:5:0:0:0:416">2604:1580:FE00:5:0:0:0:416</a> (<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:2604:1580:FE00:5:0:0:0:416&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:2604:1580:FE00:5:0:0:0:416 (page does not exist)">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-2604:1580:FE00:5:0:0:0:416-20230527064200-2014_Court_Order_copies_sent_to_Wikipedia_Legal_and_Arbcom" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">06:42, 27 May 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-2604:1580:FE00:5:0:0:0:416-20230527064200-2014_Court_Order_copies_sent_to_Wikipedia_Legal_and_Arbcom"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-2604:1580:FE00:5:0:0:0:416-20230527064200-2014_Court_Order_copies_sent_to_Wikipedia_Legal_and_Arbcom"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span style="font-size:smaller;"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Bishonen-20230527105500-2604:1580:FE00:5:0:0:0:416-20230527064200"></span>(<a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Talk_page_stalker" title="Wikipedia:Talk page stalker">talk page stalker</a>)</span> IP, really? In that case it's a little surprising that you haven't even created an account. The /64 range you're using has been blocked for persistent <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:NLT" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:NLT">legal threats</a> as seen <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special%3AContributions&target=2604%3A1580%3AFE00%3A5%3A%3A%2F64&namespace=all&tagfilter=&start=&end=&limit=50">here</a>. I wouldn't advise MrOllie to pay any attention to the mouthful of legalese above unless and until he is actually approached by Wikipedia Legal. <a href="/wiki/User:Bishonen" title="User:Bishonen">Bishonen</a> | <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Bishonen" title="User talk:Bishonen">tålk</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-Bishonen-20230527105500-2604:1580:FE00:5:0:0:0:416-20230527064200" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:55, 27 May 2023 (UTC)</a>.<span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Bishonen-20230527105500-2604:1580:FE00:5:0:0:0:416-20230527064200"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Bishonen-20230527105500-2604:1580:FE00:5:0:0:0:416-20230527064200"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Salvatore_Pais" data-mw-thread-id="h-Salvatore_Pais-20230527035000"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Salvatore_Pais-20230527035000"></span><a href="/wiki/Salvatore_Pais" title="Salvatore Pais">Salvatore Pais</a><span data-mw-comment-end="h-Salvatore_Pais-20230527035000"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Enix150-20230527035000-Salvatore_Pais"></span>The interviews were published by <i>TOE with Curt Jaimungal</i>, so they're not <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:SELFPUB" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:SELFPUB">WP:SELFPUB</a>. See also <a href="/wiki/Template:Youtube" class="mw-redirect" title="Template:Youtube">Template:Youtube</a>, this template was created for External links sections. </p><p>To address your second point, Forbes has always been considered a reliable source, and none of the other references are <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:DEPRECATED" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:DEPRECATED">WP:DEPRECATED</a>, so I undid your edit claiming "no reliable sources" (See <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:SUSTAINED" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:SUSTAINED">WP:SUSTAINED</a>). Feel free to reword the section to better fit the references or to add more references, but as I told you before simply deleting content is not the proper move. <a href="/wiki/User:Enix150" title="User:Enix150">Enix150</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Enix150" title="User talk:Enix150">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-Enix150-20230527035000-Salvatore_Pais" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">03:50, 27 May 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Enix150-20230527035000-Salvatore_Pais"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Enix150-20230527035000-Salvatore_Pais"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-MrOllie-20230527124200-Enix150-20230527035000"></span>See <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:FORBESCON" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:FORBESCON">WP:FORBESCON</a> - you're not actually citing forbes. Also, 'TOE with Curt Jaimungal' is absolutely someone's self published youtube channel. Direct any followup to the article's talk page, where such discussion belongs. <a href="/wiki/User:MrOllie" class="mw-redirect" title="User:MrOllie">MrOllie</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie#top" title="User talk:MrOllie">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-MrOllie-20230527124200-Enix150-20230527035000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:42, 27 May 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-MrOllie-20230527124200-Enix150-20230527035000"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-MrOllie-20230527124200-Enix150-20230527035000"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Help_fixing_a_hat_note." data-mw-thread-id="h-Help_fixing_a_hat_note.-20230528151600"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Help_fixing_a_hat_note.-20230528151600"></span>Help fixing a hat note.<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Help_fixing_a_hat_note.-20230528151600"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><a href="/wiki/Eschatology" title="Eschatology"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-118.210.58.91-20230528151600-Help_fixing_a_hat_note."></span>Eschatology</a> - I'm just not sure what's wrong. <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/118.210.58.91" title="Special:Contributions/118.210.58.91">118.210.58.91</a> (<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:118.210.58.91&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:118.210.58.91 (page does not exist)">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-118.210.58.91-20230528151600-Help_fixing_a_hat_note." class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:16, 28 May 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-118.210.58.91-20230528151600-Help_fixing_a_hat_note."></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-118.210.58.91-20230528151600-Help_fixing_a_hat_note."></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-MrOllie-20230528154900-118.210.58.91-20230528151600"></span>Grouping tag was just in the wrong place, I've fixed it. <a href="/wiki/User:MrOllie" class="mw-redirect" title="User:MrOllie">MrOllie</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie#top" title="User talk:MrOllie">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-MrOllie-20230528154900-118.210.58.91-20230528151600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:49, 28 May 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-MrOllie-20230528154900-118.210.58.91-20230528151600"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-MrOllie-20230528154900-118.210.58.91-20230528151600"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Your_reversion_of_my_well-sourced_contributions_to_EMDR_article" data-mw-thread-id="h-Your_reversion_of_my_well-sourced_contributions_to_EMDR_article-20230530210700"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Your_reversion_of_my_well-sourced_contributions_to_EMDR_article-20230530210700"></span>Your reversion of my well-sourced contributions to EMDR article<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Your_reversion_of_my_well-sourced_contributions_to_EMDR_article-20230530210700"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <dl><dd><i><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-GreatBigCircles-20230530210700-Your_reversion_of_my_well-sourced_contributions_to_EMDR_article"></span>We need sources that meet</i> <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:MEDRS" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:MEDRS">WP:MEDRS</a> <i>for such things, these clearly do not</i></dd></dl> <p>Did you look at my sources? One of them was the peer-reviewed medical journal <a href="/wiki/Traumatology_(journal)" title="Traumatology (journal)">Traumatology (journal)</a>, which clearly meets <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:MEDRS" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:MEDRS">WP:MEDRS</a>. My edits also made no direct claims about biomedical information, only about scientific evidence and debate. The other three sources are all reliable sources on such topics. </p><p>I'm genuinely curious: Do you believe that all those sources are wrong? Do you believe that what I wrote is factually incorrect? Do you think my changes made the article worse in some way? Do you think the existing introduction is a fair and neutral representation of the scientific consensus about EMDR? <a href="/wiki/User:GreatBigCircles" title="User:GreatBigCircles">GreatBigCircles</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:GreatBigCircles" title="User talk:GreatBigCircles">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-GreatBigCircles-20230530210700-Your_reversion_of_my_well-sourced_contributions_to_EMDR_article" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:07, 30 May 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-GreatBigCircles-20230530210700-Your_reversion_of_my_well-sourced_contributions_to_EMDR_article"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-GreatBigCircles-20230530210700-Your_reversion_of_my_well-sourced_contributions_to_EMDR_article"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-MrOllie-20230530211200-GreatBigCircles-20230530210700"></span>You should read <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:MEDRS" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:MEDRS">WP:MEDRS</a> thoroughly. Many articles in peer-reviewed journals do not meet that standard - the one you cited certainly does not. I do indeed think that your edit made the article worse, that is why I reverted. I decline to discuss my personal beliefs as I do not find such discussion to be helpful or relevant to writing an encyclopedia article. Direct any follow-up to the article's talk page, where discussion like this belongs. <a href="/wiki/User:MrOllie" class="mw-redirect" title="User:MrOllie">MrOllie</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie#top" title="User talk:MrOllie">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-MrOllie-20230530211200-GreatBigCircles-20230530210700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:12, 30 May 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-MrOllie-20230530211200-GreatBigCircles-20230530210700"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-MrOllie-20230530211200-GreatBigCircles-20230530210700"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Your_reversion_of_my_well-sourced_contributions_to_streaming_platform_article(s)" data-mw-thread-id="h-Your_reversion_of_my_well-sourced_contributions_to_streaming_platform_article(s)-20230531182400"><span id="Your_reversion_of_my_well-sourced_contributions_to_streaming_platform_article.28s.29"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Your_reversion_of_my_well-sourced_contributions_to_streaming_platform_article(s)-20230531182400"></span>Your reversion of my well-sourced contributions to streaming platform article(s)<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Your_reversion_of_my_well-sourced_contributions_to_streaming_platform_article(s)-20230531182400"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Bubalina-20230531182400-Your_reversion_of_my_well-sourced_contributions_to_streaming_platform_article(s)"></span>Did you look at my sources? Do you believe that all those sources are wrong? Do you believe that what I wrote is factually incorrect? For what reason do you believe a relevant kids streaming network with 50 million users should be omitted from an encyclopedia article? <a href="/wiki/User:Bubalina" title="User:Bubalina">Bubalina</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Bubalina" title="User talk:Bubalina">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-Bubalina-20230531182400-Your_reversion_of_my_well-sourced_contributions_to_streaming_platform_article(s)" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:24, 31 May 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Bubalina-20230531182400-Your_reversion_of_my_well-sourced_contributions_to_streaming_platform_article(s)"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Bubalina-20230531182400-Your_reversion_of_my_well-sourced_contributions_to_streaming_platform_article(s)"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-MrOllie-20230531193400-Bubalina-20230531182400"></span>Your article was deleted (by someone else, not me) as blatant promotion. I removed it from the lists and such you had added it to, as they are places to list things that have Wikipedia articles. <a href="/wiki/User:MrOllie" class="mw-redirect" title="User:MrOllie">MrOllie</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie#top" title="User talk:MrOllie">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-MrOllie-20230531193400-Bubalina-20230531182400" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:34, 31 May 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-MrOllie-20230531193400-Bubalina-20230531182400"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-MrOllie-20230531193400-Bubalina-20230531182400"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="I_am_not_cite_spamming" data-mw-thread-id="h-I_am_not_cite_spamming-20230601180500"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-I_am_not_cite_spamming-20230601180500"></span>I am not cite spamming<span data-mw-comment-end="h-I_am_not_cite_spamming-20230601180500"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-190.104.233.189-20230601180500-I_am_not_cite_spamming"></span>We are not citespamming we are making contributions in various fields of tourism - korstaanje is a ref in the fiel like many others <small class="autosigned">— Preceding <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Signatures" title="Wikipedia:Signatures">unsigned</a> comment added by <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/190.104.233.189" title="Special:Contributions/190.104.233.189">190.104.233.189</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:190.104.233.189#top" title="User talk:190.104.233.189">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-190.104.233.189-20230601180500-I_am_not_cite_spamming" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:05, 1 June 2023 (UTC)</a></small><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-190.104.233.189-20230601180500-I_am_not_cite_spamming"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-190.104.233.189-20230601180500-I_am_not_cite_spamming"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-MrOllie-20230601181300-190.104.233.189-20230601180500"></span>You have been citespamming and evading blocks with sockpuppet accounts for years. Just stop. <a href="/wiki/User:MrOllie" class="mw-redirect" title="User:MrOllie">MrOllie</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie#top" title="User talk:MrOllie">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-MrOllie-20230601181300-190.104.233.189-20230601180500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:13, 1 June 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-MrOllie-20230601181300-190.104.233.189-20230601180500"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-MrOllie-20230601181300-190.104.233.189-20230601180500"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="I'd_like_to_learn_why_taking_a_reference_from_a_blog_is_wrong" data-mw-thread-id="h-I'd_like_to_learn_why_taking_a_reference_from_a_blog_is_wrong-20230606145600"><span id="I.27d_like_to_learn_why_taking_a_reference_from_a_blog_is_wrong"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-I'd_like_to_learn_why_taking_a_reference_from_a_blog_is_wrong-20230606145600"></span>I'd like to learn why taking a reference from a blog is wrong<span data-mw-comment-end="h-I'd_like_to_learn_why_taking_a_reference_from_a_blog_is_wrong-20230606145600"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Goddfrith-20230606145600-I'd_like_to_learn_why_taking_a_reference_from_a_blog_is_wrong"></span>I added an information which I got it from a website (related to real estate in Turkey) and I put it into the reference section as this is required to do. I'd like to learn the reason why you removed every information that I contributed to the article. Using a blog as reference is not approved? </p><p>Thanks in advance. <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Goddfrith&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Goddfrith (page does not exist)">Goddfrith</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Goddfrith" title="User talk:Goddfrith">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-Goddfrith-20230606145600-I'd_like_to_learn_why_taking_a_reference_from_a_blog_is_wrong" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:56, 6 June 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Goddfrith-20230606145600-I'd_like_to_learn_why_taking_a_reference_from_a_blog_is_wrong"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Goddfrith-20230606145600-I'd_like_to_learn_why_taking_a_reference_from_a_blog_is_wrong"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-UtherSRG-20230606145800-Goddfrith-20230606145600"></span>@<a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Goddfrith&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Goddfrith (page does not exist)">Goddfrith</a>:</span> That is correct. Please read <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:RS" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:RS">WP:RS</a> for info on references and reliability. - <a href="/wiki/User:UtherSRG" title="User:UtherSRG">UtherSRG</a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:UtherSRG" title="User talk:UtherSRG">(talk)</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-UtherSRG-20230606145800-Goddfrith-20230606145600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:58, 6 June 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-UtherSRG-20230606145800-Goddfrith-20230606145600"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-UtherSRG-20230606145800-Goddfrith-20230606145600"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="I'd_like_to_learn_why_linking_to_a_highly_relevant_page_is_wrong" data-mw-thread-id="h-I'd_like_to_learn_why_linking_to_a_highly_relevant_page_is_wrong-20230609144200"><span id="I.27d_like_to_learn_why_linking_to_a_highly_relevant_page_is_wrong"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-I'd_like_to_learn_why_linking_to_a_highly_relevant_page_is_wrong-20230609144200"></span>I'd like to learn why linking to a highly relevant page is wrong<span data-mw-comment-end="h-I'd_like_to_learn_why_linking_to_a_highly_relevant_page_is_wrong-20230609144200"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-TechAndUXWriter-20230609144200-I'd_like_to_learn_why_linking_to_a_highly_relevant_page_is_wrong"></span>You deleted my links from the article on technical writing. What was wrong to link to the most comprehensive collection of organizations and conferences on technical writing on the web? Was it off topic? Wasn't there any value for the readers? </p><p>Thanks. <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:TechAndUXWriter&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:TechAndUXWriter (page does not exist)">TechAndUXWriter</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:TechAndUXWriter" title="User talk:TechAndUXWriter">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-TechAndUXWriter-20230609144200-I'd_like_to_learn_why_linking_to_a_highly_relevant_page_is_wrong" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:42, 9 June 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-TechAndUXWriter-20230609144200-I'd_like_to_learn_why_linking_to_a_highly_relevant_page_is_wrong"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-TechAndUXWriter-20230609144200-I'd_like_to_learn_why_linking_to_a_highly_relevant_page_is_wrong"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-MrOllie-20230609144400-TechAndUXWriter-20230609144200"></span>You were link spamming. Don't do that. Wikipedia isn't a link directory. <a href="/wiki/User:MrOllie" class="mw-redirect" title="User:MrOllie">MrOllie</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie#top" title="User talk:MrOllie">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-MrOllie-20230609144400-TechAndUXWriter-20230609144200" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:44, 9 June 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-MrOllie-20230609144400-TechAndUXWriter-20230609144200"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-MrOllie-20230609144400-TechAndUXWriter-20230609144200"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="WP:3RR" data-mw-thread-id="h-WP:3RR-20230614033700"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-WP:3RR-20230614033700"></span><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:3RR" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:3RR">WP:3RR</a><span data-mw-comment-end="h-WP:3RR-20230614033700"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Enix150-20230614033700-WP:3RR"></span><figure class="mw-halign-left" typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Stop_hand_nuvola.svg" class="mw-file-description"><img alt="Stop icon" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/f/f1/Stop_hand_nuvola.svg/30px-Stop_hand_nuvola.svg.png" decoding="async" width="30" height="30" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/f/f1/Stop_hand_nuvola.svg/45px-Stop_hand_nuvola.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/f/f1/Stop_hand_nuvola.svg/60px-Stop_hand_nuvola.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="240" data-file-height="240"/></a><figcaption></figcaption></figure><p> Your recent editing history at <a href="/wiki/Salvatore_Pais" title="Salvatore Pais">Salvatore Pais</a> shows that you are currently engaged in an <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Edit_warring" title="Wikipedia:Edit warring">edit war</a>; that means that you are repeatedly changing content back to how you think it should be, when you have seen that other editors disagree. To resolve the content dispute, please do not revert or change the edits of others when you are reverted. Instead of reverting, please use the <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Talk_page_guidelines" title="Wikipedia:Talk page guidelines">talk page</a> to work toward making a version that represents <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Consensus" title="Wikipedia:Consensus">consensus</a> among editors. The best practice at this stage is to discuss, not edit-war; read about <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:EPTALK" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:EPTALK">how this is done</a>. If discussions reach an impasse, you can then post a request for help at a relevant <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Noticeboards" title="Wikipedia:Noticeboards">noticeboard</a> or seek <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Dispute_resolution" title="Wikipedia:Dispute resolution">dispute resolution</a>. In some cases, you may wish to request temporary <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Protection_policy" title="Wikipedia:Protection policy">page protection</a>. </p><p><b>Being involved in an edit war can result in you being <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Blocking_policy" title="Wikipedia:Blocking policy">blocked from editing</a></b>—especially if you violate the <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Edit_warring#The_three-revert_rule" title="Wikipedia:Edit warring">three-revert rule</a>, which states that an editor must not perform more than three <a href="/wiki/Help:Reverting" title="Help:Reverting">reverts</a> on a single page within a 24-hour period. Undoing another editor's work—whether in whole or in part, whether involving the same or different material each time—counts as a revert. Also keep in mind that while violating the three-revert rule often leads to a block, you can still be blocked for edit warring—<b>even if you do not violate the three-revert rule</b>—should your behavior indicate that you intend to continue reverting repeatedly. </p><p>That was your third revert today. <a href="/wiki/User:Enix150" title="User:Enix150">Enix150</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Enix150" title="User talk:Enix150">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-Enix150-20230614033700-WP:3RR" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">03:37, 14 June 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Enix150-20230614033700-WP:3RR"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Enix150-20230614033700-WP:3RR"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-MrOllie-20230614034200-Enix150-20230614033700"></span>And your fourth revert, so I've filed something at the relevant noticeboard. <a href="/wiki/User:MrOllie" class="mw-redirect" title="User:MrOllie">MrOllie</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie#top" title="User talk:MrOllie">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-MrOllie-20230614034200-Enix150-20230614033700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">03:42, 14 June 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-MrOllie-20230614034200-Enix150-20230614033700"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-MrOllie-20230614034200-Enix150-20230614033700"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Enix150-20230614051500-MrOllie-20230614034200"></span>Third* Nice try though. <a href="/wiki/User:Enix150" title="User:Enix150">Enix150</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Enix150" title="User talk:Enix150">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-Enix150-20230614051500-MrOllie-20230614034200" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">05:15, 14 June 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Enix150-20230614051500-MrOllie-20230614034200"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Enix150-20230614051500-MrOllie-20230614034200"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="George_Mallory" data-mw-thread-id="h-George_Mallory-20230614175600"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-George_Mallory-20230614175600"></span>George Mallory<span data-mw-comment-end="h-George_Mallory-20230614175600"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Zephronion-20230614175600-George_Mallory"></span>With all due respect <a href="/wiki/User:MrOllie" class="mw-redirect" title="User:MrOllie">MrOllie</a> that article that I have written is one of the greatest, ever written on Wikipedia. It's by far, better than most Good Articles. It's not for you to say, passively "oh it's too long," or any anyone else. A lot of work went into that article. It is not too long. You may learn something if you read it. This is an improved version. The old version was full of factual inaccuracies. It's no wonder that so many people don't want to edit Wikipedia at this time. You folks are pushing away good editors with a type of <a href="/wiki/Totalitarianism" title="Totalitarianism">totalitarianism</a>, which is not welcome in the democratic world that civil people live in. I've wasted enough time with this nonsense. Absolutely ridiculous thing to do, to a person who put so much time and energy into this. It's just unforgivable, insulting, embarrassing, and ignorant. The article is long because this explorers life story is and all the facts pertinent to it are included. It's not my issue, if ITS' TOO GOOD FOR WIKIPEDIA. WHICH IT IS!! <a href="/wiki/User:Zephronion" title="User:Zephronion">Zephronion</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Zephronion" title="User talk:Zephronion">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-Zephronion-20230614175600-George_Mallory" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:56, 14 June 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Zephronion-20230614175600-George_Mallory"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Zephronion-20230614175600-George_Mallory"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-MrOllie-20230614180200-Zephronion-20230614175600"></span>With all due respect, telling people to 'fuck off' in edit summaries and ranting on people's user talk pages is not a substitute for engaging on the article talk page to calmly discuss your edits with other people. - <a href="/wiki/User:MrOllie" class="mw-redirect" title="User:MrOllie">MrOllie</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie#top" title="User talk:MrOllie">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-MrOllie-20230614180200-Zephronion-20230614175600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:02, 14 June 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-MrOllie-20230614180200-Zephronion-20230614175600"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-MrOllie-20230614180200-Zephronion-20230614175600"></span></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Maxxhiato-20230614183800-Zephronion-20230614175600"></span>Just look at the article's talk page. Good article status does require a concise portrayal of information, which I feel is not present due to the reasons I have outlined. I mean, the article was longer than the United States article, which was considered too long. It's not unreasonable to think that an article about George Mallory being longer than a superpower is kind of strange. <a href="/wiki/User:Maxxhiato" title="User:Maxxhiato"><em style="font-family:Lucida Handwriting;color:#FF6699">Maxx-♥</em></a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Maxxhiato" title="User talk:Maxxhiato">talk and coffee ☕</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-Maxxhiato-20230614183800-Zephronion-20230614175600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:38, 14 June 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Maxxhiato-20230614183800-Zephronion-20230614175600"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Maxxhiato-20230614183800-Zephronion-20230614175600"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Zephronion-20230614201100-Maxxhiato-20230614183800"></span>What's strange about it? Did you ever read "Into The Silence" The great war Mallory and the conquest of Everest? I was in touch with the author and outlined the mistakes in the book, and the author was very thankful. (respect privacy) more than you would get here! Is this book too long? Perhaps you should tell the author who bought over 500 books to write this masterpiece, just like mine. Is this article too long? <a href="/wiki/Boris_Johnson" title="Boris Johnson">Boris Johnson</a>? Where is the long-article message template on that? Or these? <a href="/w/index.php?title=Long_pages&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Long pages (page does not exist)">Long pages</a> What does it matter if it's longer than the <a href="/wiki/United_States" title="United States">United States</a> article or any other for that matter? It's written in my good style, and that is what is important. It took ten long months ... I don't care what you people think. What's wrong with a long article? EXACTLY NOTHING. You should be thanking people for fine edits, not criticising them for that kind of thing, which drives people away. Being jealous gets you nowhere. The Bible is long; want to criticise that? There are other articles on Wikipedia that are much longer than George Mallory (the great explorer that he was). He's got more brass than BJ? Wikipedia is littered with factual errors. The article is long because that is the way it is. Life stories are long. My great article deserves a book. There has never in history been such a concise, detailed, and factually correct biography written about one of the great explorers. Its genius. Never before in such detail have all the facts about Mallory's life been assembled in one place. It is 100 years of history taken from 50 books, 40 journals, and other documents. Every sentence is referenced. It's concise and brilliant. Have respect for others great work. <a href="/wiki/User:Zephronion" title="User:Zephronion">Zephronion</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Zephronion" title="User talk:Zephronion">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-Zephronion-20230614201100-Maxxhiato-20230614183800" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:11, 14 June 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Zephronion-20230614201100-Maxxhiato-20230614183800"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Zephronion-20230614201100-Maxxhiato-20230614183800"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Maxxhiato-20230614203400-Zephronion-20230614201100"></span>Boris Johnson probably is too long.</dd> <dd><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1248585704"><q class="inline-quote-talk">It's written in my good style, and that is what is important.</q> No, this is part of the problem. I'm worried that you feel as though you own the article in some way. Length isn't an inherent problem, assuming the subject matter deserves it. However, two main elements come to mind: readability and importance of information. The readability of the article was somewhat hindered by technical information. But the main problem was importance of information. A lot of the details added were somewhat trivial for a general understanding of the topic and was given undue weight.</dd> <dd>If you do want to write a book on the subject, I would highly encourage you to do so. You clearly care and know a lot about this. <a href="/wiki/User:Maxxhiato" title="User:Maxxhiato"><em style="font-family:Lucida Handwriting;color:#FF6699">Maxx-♥</em></a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Maxxhiato" title="User talk:Maxxhiato">talk and coffee ☕</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-Maxxhiato-20230614203400-Zephronion-20230614201100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:34, 14 June 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Maxxhiato-20230614203400-Zephronion-20230614201100"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Maxxhiato-20230614203400-Zephronion-20230614201100"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-MrOllie-20230614205300-Maxxhiato-20230614203400"></span>My user talk page is not the place to discuss this. Direct any follow up to article talk. <a href="/wiki/User:MrOllie" class="mw-redirect" title="User:MrOllie">MrOllie</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie#top" title="User talk:MrOllie">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-MrOllie-20230614205300-Maxxhiato-20230614203400" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:53, 14 June 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-MrOllie-20230614205300-Maxxhiato-20230614203400"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-MrOllie-20230614205300-Maxxhiato-20230614203400"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Zephronion-20230614181000-George_Mallory"></span>Its not a rant in anyway, its how I feel and I'm pretty certain not the only one. I didn't think people were so sensitive to the truth. Now have a good day sir!! <a href="/wiki/User:Zephronion" title="User:Zephronion">Zephronion</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Zephronion" title="User talk:Zephronion">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-Zephronion-20230614181000-George_Mallory" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:10, 14 June 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Zephronion-20230614181000-George_Mallory"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Zephronion-20230614181000-George_Mallory"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="King_Abdullah_II" data-mw-thread-id="h-King_Abdullah_II-20230617145700"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-King_Abdullah_II-20230617145700"></span>King Abdullah II<span data-mw-comment-end="h-King_Abdullah_II-20230617145700"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-218.48.143.71-20230617145700-King_Abdullah_II"></span>A reference/ citation was removed, on the basis of non-neutrality/POV. I do not think that this was justified. It just stated that he is generally held in high regard. I'm not sure your move was warranted. <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/218.48.143.71" title="Special:Contributions/218.48.143.71">218.48.143.71</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:218.48.143.71" title="User talk:218.48.143.71">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-218.48.143.71-20230617145700-King_Abdullah_II" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:57, 17 June 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-218.48.143.71-20230617145700-King_Abdullah_II"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-218.48.143.71-20230617145700-King_Abdullah_II"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-MrOllie-20230617150400-218.48.143.71-20230617145700"></span>Popularity is discussed in the 4th paragraph, so it was both redundant and non-neutral. We're not going to turn the article into a <a href="/wiki/Hagiography" title="Hagiography">hagiography</a> <a href="/wiki/User:MrOllie" class="mw-redirect" title="User:MrOllie">MrOllie</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie#top" title="User talk:MrOllie">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-MrOllie-20230617150400-218.48.143.71-20230617145700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:04, 17 June 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-MrOllie-20230617150400-218.48.143.71-20230617145700"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-MrOllie-20230617150400-218.48.143.71-20230617145700"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Lucid_Dream" data-mw-thread-id="h-Lucid_Dream-20230617191800"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Lucid_Dream-20230617191800"></span><a href="/wiki/Lucid_Dream" class="mw-redirect" title="Lucid Dream">Lucid Dream</a><span data-mw-comment-end="h-Lucid_Dream-20230617191800"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Robercik101-20230617191800-Lucid_Dream"></span>I understand our policy about external links, but those links I added are not behind paywall, nor contain ads or malware <a href="/wiki/Stephen_Laberge" class="mw-redirect" title="Stephen Laberge">Stephen Laberge</a> is know in the world of lucid dreaming an article is directly connected to lucid dreaming also lucidity.com is used before in article so I can't understand reason of this. Thanks for the answer. <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Robercik101&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Robercik101 (page does not exist)">Robercik101</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Robercik101" title="User talk:Robercik101">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-Robercik101-20230617191800-Lucid_Dream" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:18, 17 June 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Robercik101-20230617191800-Lucid_Dream"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Robercik101-20230617191800-Lucid_Dream"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Spider-Man_DOES_have_Superhuman_speed" data-mw-thread-id="h-Spider-Man_DOES_have_Superhuman_speed-20230620120000"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Spider-Man_DOES_have_Superhuman_speed-20230620120000"></span>Spider-Man DOES have Superhuman speed<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Spider-Man_DOES_have_Superhuman_speed-20230620120000"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Aaeliaba-20230620120000-Spider-Man_DOES_have_Superhuman_speed"></span>Look, I see that you delete "speed" in <a href="/wiki/Spider-Man" title="Spider-Man">Spider-Man</a> page, but let me tell you this; Spider-Man does have superhuman speed! it was mentioned that he has proportionate strength, "speed", and agility of a spider! If Spider-Man doesn't have superhuman speed, the comic wouldn't mention the proportionate strength "speed" and agility of a spider, it says in Spectacular Spider-Man comic where Spidey explains his origin to Black Cat, and the word I mention speed is in there. If you still don't believe me; look and read in the link <a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="https://readcomiconline.li/Comic/The-Spectacular-Spider-Man-1976/Issue-87?id=19204">https://readcomiconline.li/Comic/The-Spectacular-Spider-Man-1976/Issue-87?id=19204</a>. I have proof. <a href="/wiki/User:Aaeliaba" title="User:Aaeliaba">Aaeliaba</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Aaeliaba" title="User talk:Aaeliaba">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-Aaeliaba-20230620120000-Spider-Man_DOES_have_Superhuman_speed" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:00, 20 June 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Aaeliaba-20230620120000-Spider-Man_DOES_have_Superhuman_speed"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Aaeliaba-20230620120000-Spider-Man_DOES_have_Superhuman_speed"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-MrOllie-20230620181300-Aaeliaba-20230620120000"></span>You are edit warring to include content that is just plain wrong. Stop. <a href="/wiki/User:MrOllie" class="mw-redirect" title="User:MrOllie">MrOllie</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie#top" title="User talk:MrOllie">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-MrOllie-20230620181300-Aaeliaba-20230620120000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:13, 20 June 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-MrOllie-20230620181300-Aaeliaba-20230620120000"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-MrOllie-20230620181300-Aaeliaba-20230620120000"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Aaeliaba-20230620193300-MrOllie-20230620181300"></span>Sorry for the editting war, ok I'll some discussion in Spider-Man talk page if I could ever edit something. <a href="/wiki/User:Aaeliaba" title="User:Aaeliaba">Aaeliaba</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Aaeliaba" title="User talk:Aaeliaba">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-Aaeliaba-20230620193300-MrOllie-20230620181300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:33, 20 June 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Aaeliaba-20230620193300-MrOllie-20230620181300"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Aaeliaba-20230620193300-MrOllie-20230620181300"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Please_read_the_talk_page_before_reverting" data-mw-thread-id="h-Please_read_the_talk_page_before_reverting-20230621185100"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Please_read_the_talk_page_before_reverting-20230621185100"></span>Please read the talk page before reverting<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Please_read_the_talk_page_before_reverting-20230621185100"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-GreatBigCircles-20230621185100-Please_read_the_talk_page_before_reverting"></span>You just reverted changes to <a href="/wiki/Eye_movement_desensitization_and_reprocessing" title="Eye movement desensitization and reprocessing">Eye movement desensitization and reprocessing</a> that had reached consensus on the talk page. Please read the talk page. <a href="/wiki/User:GreatBigCircles" title="User:GreatBigCircles">GreatBigCircles</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:GreatBigCircles" title="User talk:GreatBigCircles">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-GreatBigCircles-20230621185100-Please_read_the_talk_page_before_reverting" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:51, 21 June 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-GreatBigCircles-20230621185100-Please_read_the_talk_page_before_reverting"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-GreatBigCircles-20230621185100-Please_read_the_talk_page_before_reverting"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-MrOllie-20230621185300-GreatBigCircles-20230621185100"></span>That's just false. The edit you made was not the proposed edit on the talk page. <a href="/wiki/User:MrOllie" class="mw-redirect" title="User:MrOllie">MrOllie</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie#top" title="User talk:MrOllie">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-MrOllie-20230621185300-GreatBigCircles-20230621185100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:53, 21 June 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-MrOllie-20230621185300-GreatBigCircles-20230621185100"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-MrOllie-20230621185300-GreatBigCircles-20230621185100"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Is_Physics_Essays_an_unreliable_source?" data-mw-thread-id="h-Is_Physics_Essays_an_unreliable_source?-20230622233900"><span id="Is_Physics_Essays_an_unreliable_source.3F"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Is_Physics_Essays_an_unreliable_source?-20230622233900"></span>Is Physics Essays an unreliable source?<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Is_Physics_Essays_an_unreliable_source?-20230622233900"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-ScooterMcGruff-20230622233900-Is_Physics_Essays_an_unreliable_source?"></span>What is your basis for claiming that Physics Essays is an unreliable source? <a href="/wiki/User:ScooterMcGruff" title="User:ScooterMcGruff">ScooterMcGruff</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:ScooterMcGruff" title="User talk:ScooterMcGruff">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-ScooterMcGruff-20230622233900-Is_Physics_Essays_an_unreliable_source?" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:39, 22 June 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-ScooterMcGruff-20230622233900-Is_Physics_Essays_an_unreliable_source?"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-ScooterMcGruff-20230622233900-Is_Physics_Essays_an_unreliable_source?"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-MrOllie-20230622234100-ScooterMcGruff-20230622233900"></span>You're discussing this elsewhere. Stick to that conversation, or follow up on the article's talk page. My user talk is not the place for this. <a href="/wiki/User:MrOllie" class="mw-redirect" title="User:MrOllie">MrOllie</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie#top" title="User talk:MrOllie">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-MrOllie-20230622234100-ScooterMcGruff-20230622233900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:41, 22 June 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-MrOllie-20230622234100-ScooterMcGruff-20230622233900"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-MrOllie-20230622234100-ScooterMcGruff-20230622233900"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="We_don't_care_who_his_lawyer_is" data-mw-thread-id="h-We_don't_care_who_his_lawyer_is-20230622235100"><span id="We_don.27t_care_who_his_lawyer_is"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-We_don't_care_who_his_lawyer_is-20230622235100"></span>We don't care who his lawyer is<span data-mw-comment-end="h-We_don't_care_who_his_lawyer_is-20230622235100"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-2603:7000:2101:AA00:840F:B200:4CE4:7AE9-20230622235100-We_don't_care_who_his_lawyer_is"></span>Huh? It's widely covered by RSs. RSs deem it notable. The lawyer is notable. You don't consider it notable, which if fine, but the RSs trump any person who is simply making a bland assertion in the face of that. <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/2603:7000:2101:AA00:840F:B200:4CE4:7AE9" title="Special:Contributions/2603:7000:2101:AA00:840F:B200:4CE4:7AE9">2603:7000:2101:AA00:840F:B200:4CE4:7AE9</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:2603:7000:2101:AA00:840F:B200:4CE4:7AE9" title="User talk:2603:7000:2101:AA00:840F:B200:4CE4:7AE9">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-2603:7000:2101:AA00:840F:B200:4CE4:7AE9-20230622235100-We_don't_care_who_his_lawyer_is" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:51, 22 June 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-2603:7000:2101:AA00:840F:B200:4CE4:7AE9-20230622235100-We_don't_care_who_his_lawyer_is"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-2603:7000:2101:AA00:840F:B200:4CE4:7AE9-20230622235100-We_don't_care_who_his_lawyer_is"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-MrOllie-20230622235100-2603:7000:2101:AA00:840F:B200:4CE4:7AE9-20230622235100"></span>Wikipedia isn't for posting trivia. A RS happening to mention or quote a lawyer is not the same thing as 'RSs deem it notable' <a href="/wiki/User:MrOllie" class="mw-redirect" title="User:MrOllie">MrOllie</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie#top" title="User talk:MrOllie">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-MrOllie-20230622235100-2603:7000:2101:AA00:840F:B200:4CE4:7AE9-20230622235100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:51, 22 June 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-MrOllie-20230622235100-2603:7000:2101:AA00:840F:B200:4CE4:7AE9-20230622235100"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-MrOllie-20230622235100-2603:7000:2101:AA00:840F:B200:4CE4:7AE9-20230622235100"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-2603:7000:2101:AA00:840F:B200:4CE4:7AE9-20230623000100-MrOllie-20230622235100"></span>I'll continue the discussion elsewhere so as not to spread it over changes, but find mind-boggling that you assert that when an individual is represented by a WP-notable attorney, that fact is "trivia." Totally an opposite-day argument. --<a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/2603:7000:2101:AA00:840F:B200:4CE4:7AE9" title="Special:Contributions/2603:7000:2101:AA00:840F:B200:4CE4:7AE9">2603:7000:2101:AA00:840F:B200:4CE4:7AE9</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:2603:7000:2101:AA00:840F:B200:4CE4:7AE9" title="User talk:2603:7000:2101:AA00:840F:B200:4CE4:7AE9">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-2603:7000:2101:AA00:840F:B200:4CE4:7AE9-20230623000100-MrOllie-20230622235100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:01, 23 June 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-2603:7000:2101:AA00:840F:B200:4CE4:7AE9-20230623000100-MrOllie-20230622235100"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-2603:7000:2101:AA00:840F:B200:4CE4:7AE9-20230623000100-MrOllie-20230622235100"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Unconstructive_editing?" data-mw-thread-id="h-Unconstructive_editing?-20230701134700"><span id="Unconstructive_editing.3F"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Unconstructive_editing?-20230701134700"></span>Unconstructive editing?<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Unconstructive_editing?-20230701134700"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Pradeep_Ramalingam_R-20230701134700-Unconstructive_editing?"></span>May I know why are you removing all of my edits. All the edits which I make is after thorough research. As I'm new to edit contents, can you guide me regarding this as this is a part of my academic assessment. It would be really helpful if you guide me in editing two to three articles in a constructive way. Thank you. <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Pradeep_Ramalingam_R&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Pradeep Ramalingam R (page does not exist)">Pradeep Ramalingam R</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Pradeep_Ramalingam_R" title="User talk:Pradeep Ramalingam R">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-Pradeep_Ramalingam_R-20230701134700-Unconstructive_editing?" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:47, 1 July 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Pradeep_Ramalingam_R-20230701134700-Unconstructive_editing?"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Pradeep_Ramalingam_R-20230701134700-Unconstructive_editing?"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-MrOllie-20230701135300-Pradeep_Ramalingam_R-20230701134700"></span>Your class has been editing these articles in highly inappropriate ways, apparently without the training or oversight of our educational projects. Please direct your instructor to <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Education_program/Educators" title="Wikipedia:Education program/Educators">Wikipedia:Education program/Educators</a> and ask them to halt the assignment on Wikipedia's behalf, as it is proving to be highly disruptive to our encyclopedia. <a href="/wiki/User:MrOllie" class="mw-redirect" title="User:MrOllie">MrOllie</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie#top" title="User talk:MrOllie">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-MrOllie-20230701135300-Pradeep_Ramalingam_R-20230701134700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:53, 1 July 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-MrOllie-20230701135300-Pradeep_Ramalingam_R-20230701134700"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-MrOllie-20230701135300-Pradeep_Ramalingam_R-20230701134700"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Pradeep_Ramalingam_R-20230701141800-MrOllie-20230701135300"></span>Sorry, Mr. Ollie. I apologize you for the disruptions caused by our edits and this is the final day for our assessment so you won't be seeing any edits after this. I would also inform my Professor regarding the same. We are not trying to cause any disruptions rather we wish to contribute. If you have any suggestions regarding this academic assessment you guide us the right way. Thank you. <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Pradeep_Ramalingam_R&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Pradeep Ramalingam R (page does not exist)">Pradeep Ramalingam R</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Pradeep_Ramalingam_R" title="User talk:Pradeep Ramalingam R">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-Pradeep_Ramalingam_R-20230701141800-MrOllie-20230701135300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:18, 1 July 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Pradeep_Ramalingam_R-20230701141800-MrOllie-20230701135300"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Pradeep_Ramalingam_R-20230701141800-MrOllie-20230701135300"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Mistaken_warning?" data-mw-thread-id="h-Mistaken_warning?-20230629024200"><span id="Mistaken_warning.3F"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Mistaken_warning?-20230629024200"></span>Mistaken warning?<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Mistaken_warning?-20230629024200"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Clayoquot-20230629024200-Mistaken_warning?"></span>Hi MrOllie. I'm not sure if you saw my ping, but I think you gave a new user a caution <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Bielacomet" title="User talk:Bielacomet">here</a> that wasn't warranted. You alleged adding spam links, copyvio, and inappropriate external links. The individual's only edit to that point was <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Leaf_blower&diff=prev&oldid=1160622694">this one</a> in which i can see no spam, copyvio, or external links. Would you consider striking your message? Best wishes, <a href="/wiki/User:Clayoquot" title="User:Clayoquot">Clayoquot</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Clayoquot" title="User talk:Clayoquot">talk</a> | <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Clayoquot" title="Special:Contributions/Clayoquot">contribs</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-Clayoquot-20230629024200-Mistaken_warning?" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">02:42, 29 June 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Clayoquot-20230629024200-Mistaken_warning?"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Clayoquot-20230629024200-Mistaken_warning?"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Clayoquot-20230703211200-Clayoquot-20230629024200"></span>Hi again. As you don't seem to care, I'll go ahead and strike the caution message at <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Bielacomet" title="User talk:Bielacomet">User talk:Bielacomet</a> <a href="/wiki/User:Clayoquot" title="User:Clayoquot">Clayoquot</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Clayoquot" title="User talk:Clayoquot">talk</a> | <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Clayoquot" title="Special:Contributions/Clayoquot">contribs</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-Clayoquot-20230703211200-Clayoquot-20230629024200" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:12, 3 July 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Clayoquot-20230703211200-Clayoquot-20230629024200"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Clayoquot-20230703211200-Clayoquot-20230629024200"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="WP:SPA?" data-mw-thread-id="h-WP:SPA?-20230703225300"><span id="WP:SPA.3F"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-WP:SPA?-20230703225300"></span><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:SPA" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:SPA">WP:SPA</a>?<span data-mw-comment-end="h-WP:SPA?-20230703225300"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Headbomb-20230703225300-WP:SPA?"></span>I smell a sock/spa but with only one article to cross check against, it's a bit hard to corroborate that gut feeling. Do they remind you of any sock you've had to deal with at a point in the past? <span style="font-variant:small-caps; whitespace:nowrap;"><a href="/wiki/User:Headbomb" title="User:Headbomb">Headbomb</a> {<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Headbomb" title="User talk:Headbomb">t</a> · <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Headbomb" title="Special:Contributions/Headbomb">c</a> · <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:PHYS" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:PHYS">p</a> · <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:WBOOKS" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:WBOOKS">b</a>}</span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-Headbomb-20230703225300-WP:SPA?" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:53, 3 July 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Headbomb-20230703225300-WP:SPA?"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Headbomb-20230703225300-WP:SPA?"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-MrOllie-20230703225700-Headbomb-20230703225300"></span>Not in particular. Most of the SPAs activity I can recall focused on MDPI rather than Frontiers. <a href="/wiki/User:MrOllie" class="mw-redirect" title="User:MrOllie">MrOllie</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie#top" title="User talk:MrOllie">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-MrOllie-20230703225700-Headbomb-20230703225300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:57, 3 July 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-MrOllie-20230703225700-Headbomb-20230703225300"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-MrOllie-20230703225700-Headbomb-20230703225300"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Headbomb-20230703230600-MrOllie-20230703225700"></span>Same. <span style="font-variant:small-caps; whitespace:nowrap;"><a href="/wiki/User:Headbomb" title="User:Headbomb">Headbomb</a> {<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Headbomb" title="User talk:Headbomb">t</a> · <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Headbomb" title="Special:Contributions/Headbomb">c</a> · <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:PHYS" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:PHYS">p</a> · <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:WBOOKS" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:WBOOKS">b</a>}</span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-Headbomb-20230703230600-MrOllie-20230703225700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:06, 3 July 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Headbomb-20230703230600-MrOllie-20230703225700"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Headbomb-20230703230600-MrOllie-20230703225700"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Can_you_check_please" data-mw-thread-id="h-Can_you_check_please-20230704073500"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Can_you_check_please-20230704073500"></span>Can you check please<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Can_you_check_please-20230704073500"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-178.222.30.57-20230704073500-Can_you_check_please"></span>Hello. Can I share with you possible COI or at least what seems also as advocacy/promotion issue by user what I noticed but I am not skilled enough to go to noticeboards etc? User is <a href="/wiki/User:BeLucky" title="User:BeLucky">BeLucky</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:BeLucky" title="User talk:BeLucky">talk</a> <b>·</b> <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/BeLucky" title="Special:Contributions/BeLucky">contribs</a>) and as I noticed accidently, he recently do many edits connected with a page what he created <a href="/wiki/World_Constitution_and_Parliament_Association" title="World Constitution and Parliament Association">World Constitution and Parliament Association</a>. Seems to user "spam" different biographical pages at wiki with notes about that association etc. It seems at least as advocacy, promotion and possible undue weight as that org/associacion by what I was able to find on internet seems obscure. All that could be possible COI issue or someone really close connected with that org to make that edits. Thank you. And sorry for taking your time. I sent message to one more editor who seems to know about that stuff and who I saw at that coi noticeboard also. I just care about integrity of this place as I am big reader of many pages here. I did this just as I know about some wiki policies such as neutral point of view, no advocacy and promotion, and no coi. Again thank you and sorry about taking your time to even read this. <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/178.222.30.57" title="Special:Contributions/178.222.30.57">178.222.30.57</a> (<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:178.222.30.57&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:178.222.30.57 (page does not exist)">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-178.222.30.57-20230704073500-Can_you_check_please" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">07:35, 4 July 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-178.222.30.57-20230704073500-Can_you_check_please"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-178.222.30.57-20230704073500-Can_you_check_please"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Check_the_link" data-mw-thread-id="h-Check_the_link-20230704172800"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Check_the_link-20230704172800"></span>Check the link<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Check_the_link-20230704172800"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Olaitan202-20230704172800-Check_the_link"></span>I'm adding the citation for More explanation and reference for the page Wikipedia has already link to the website already if you check it well you will see that the Link is trying to explain the more information <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Olaitan202&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Olaitan202 (page does not exist)">Olaitan202</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Olaitan202" title="User talk:Olaitan202">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-Olaitan202-20230704172800-Check_the_link" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:28, 4 July 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Olaitan202-20230704172800-Check_the_link"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Olaitan202-20230704172800-Check_the_link"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-MrOllie-20230704173400-Olaitan202-20230704172800"></span>It doesn't meet Wikipedia's requirements as explained in <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:RS" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:RS">WP:RS</a>. <a href="/wiki/User:MrOllie" class="mw-redirect" title="User:MrOllie">MrOllie</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie#top" title="User talk:MrOllie">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-MrOllie-20230704173400-Olaitan202-20230704172800" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:34, 4 July 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-MrOllie-20230704173400-Olaitan202-20230704172800"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-MrOllie-20230704173400-Olaitan202-20230704172800"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Lightsense_Picosecond_laser_removal" data-mw-thread-id="h-Lightsense_Picosecond_laser_removal-20230704184200"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Lightsense_Picosecond_laser_removal-20230704184200"></span>Lightsense Picosecond laser removal<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Lightsense_Picosecond_laser_removal-20230704184200"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-KylieTastic-20230704184200-Lightsense_Picosecond_laser_removal"></span>Hey, </p><p>I see you reverted a lot of spam on <a href="/wiki/Tattoo_removal" title="Tattoo removal">Tattoo removal</a> - I've raised <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Sockpuppet_investigations/Laser_tattoo_removal" title="Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Laser tattoo removal">Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Laser tattoo removal</a> as clearly "Lightsense" promotion accounts. <a href="/wiki/User:KylieTastic" title="User:KylieTastic">KylieTastic</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:KylieTastic" title="User talk:KylieTastic">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-KylieTastic-20230704184200-Lightsense_Picosecond_laser_removal" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:42, 4 July 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-KylieTastic-20230704184200-Lightsense_Picosecond_laser_removal"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-KylieTastic-20230704184200-Lightsense_Picosecond_laser_removal"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Kushdeep12-20230705051400-KylieTastic-20230704184200"></span>I don't know anything about it. <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Kushdeep12&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Kushdeep12 (page does not exist)">Kushdeep12</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Kushdeep12" title="User talk:Kushdeep12">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-Kushdeep12-20230705051400-KylieTastic-20230704184200" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">05:14, 5 July 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Kushdeep12-20230705051400-KylieTastic-20230704184200"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Kushdeep12-20230705051400-KylieTastic-20230704184200"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="False_Accusation_of_Vandalism." data-mw-thread-id="h-False_Accusation_of_Vandalism.-20230705164800"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-False_Accusation_of_Vandalism.-20230705164800"></span>False Accusation of Vandalism.<span data-mw-comment-end="h-False_Accusation_of_Vandalism.-20230705164800"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Sambapop11-20230705164800-False_Accusation_of_Vandalism."></span>I didn't vandalize anything, please explain why you accused me of such. <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Sambapop11&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Sambapop11 (page does not exist)">Sambapop11</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Sambapop11" title="User talk:Sambapop11">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-Sambapop11-20230705164800-False_Accusation_of_Vandalism." class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:48, 5 July 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Sambapop11-20230705164800-False_Accusation_of_Vandalism."></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Sambapop11-20230705164800-False_Accusation_of_Vandalism."></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-MrOllie-20230705165000-Sambapop11-20230705164800"></span>You added obviously made up numbers <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Demographics_of_Gibraltar&diff=1163533270&oldid=1163185290">here</a>. That is vandalism. <a href="/wiki/User:MrOllie" class="mw-redirect" title="User:MrOllie">MrOllie</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie#top" title="User talk:MrOllie">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-MrOllie-20230705165000-Sambapop11-20230705164800" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:50, 5 July 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-MrOllie-20230705165000-Sambapop11-20230705164800"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-MrOllie-20230705165000-Sambapop11-20230705164800"></span></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Sambapop11-20230705165100-Sambapop11-20230705164800"></span>I didn't make up those numbers, those were already there previously. <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Sambapop11&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Sambapop11 (page does not exist)">Sambapop11</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Sambapop11" title="User talk:Sambapop11">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-Sambapop11-20230705165100-Sambapop11-20230705164800" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:51, 5 July 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Sambapop11-20230705165100-Sambapop11-20230705164800"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Sambapop11-20230705165100-Sambapop11-20230705164800"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Why_did_you_remove_the_most_important_intellectual_step_of_Dr._Laing?" data-mw-thread-id="h-Why_did_you_remove_the_most_important_intellectual_step_of_Dr._Laing?-20230706165700"><span id="Why_did_you_remove_the_most_important_intellectual_step_of_Dr._Laing.3F"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Why_did_you_remove_the_most_important_intellectual_step_of_Dr._Laing?-20230706165700"></span>Why did you remove the most important intellectual step of Dr. Laing?<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Why_did_you_remove_the_most_important_intellectual_step_of_Dr._Laing?-20230706165700"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Andrarias-20230706165700-Why_did_you_remove_the_most_important_intellectual_step_of_Dr._Laing?"></span>I think it is a disservice to hide such an important intellectual development (to reject one's own theory, which requires giving up the time and energy spent and one's own reputation usually due to overwhelming evidence), especially for those who arrive on the page looking for the seriousness of his theories. </p><p>Can you please restore: </p><p>"Laing regarded <a href="/wiki/Schizophrenia" title="Schizophrenia">schizophrenia</a> as a theory not a fact, but later acknowledged his views on schizophrenia were wrong.<sup id="cite_ref-4" class="reference"><a href="#cite_note-4"><span class="cite-bracket">[</span>1<span class="cite-bracket">]</span></a></sup><sup id="cite_ref-5" class="reference"><a href="#cite_note-5"><span class="cite-bracket">[</span>2<span class="cite-bracket">]</span></a></sup>" </p><p>or something to that effect with the style you like? <a href="/wiki/User:Andrarias" title="User:Andrarias">Andrarias</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Andrarias" title="User talk:Andrarias">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-Andrarias-20230706165700-Why_did_you_remove_the_most_important_intellectual_step_of_Dr._Laing?" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:57, 6 July 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Andrarias-20230706165700-Why_did_you_remove_the_most_important_intellectual_step_of_Dr._Laing?"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Andrarias-20230706165700-Why_did_you_remove_the_most_important_intellectual_step_of_Dr._Laing?"></span> </p> <span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-MrOllie-20230706170400-Why_did_you_remove_the_most_important_intellectual_step_of_Dr._Laing?"></span><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1232521257"><div class="reflist-talk"> <p class="reflist-talk-title">References</p> <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1239543626"><div class="reflist"> <div class="mw-references-wrap"><ol class="references"> <li id="cite_note-4"><span class="mw-cite-backlink"><b><a href="#cite_ref-4">^</a></b></span> <span class="reference-text"><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1238218222"><cite id="CITEREFMcQuiston" class="citation web cs1">McQuiston, John T. <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.nytimes.com/1989/08/24/obituaries/rd-laing-rebel-and-pioneer-on-schizophrenia-is-dead-at-61.html">"R.D. Laing, Rebel and Pioneer On Schizophrenia, Is Dead at 61"</a>. <i>The New York Times</i>. The New York Times<span class="reference-accessdate">. Retrieved <span class="nowrap">13 February</span> 2023</span>.</cite><span title="ctx_ver=Z39.88-2004&rft_val_fmt=info%3Aofi%2Ffmt%3Akev%3Amtx%3Ajournal&rft.genre=unknown&rft.jtitle=The+New+York+Times&rft.atitle=R.D.+Laing%2C+Rebel+and+Pioneer+On+Schizophrenia%2C+Is+Dead+at+61&rft.aulast=McQuiston&rft.aufirst=John+T.&rft_id=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.nytimes.com%2F1989%2F08%2F24%2Fobituaries%2Frd-laing-rebel-and-pioneer-on-schizophrenia-is-dead-at-61.html&rfr_id=info%3Asid%2Fen.wikipedia.org%3AUser+talk%3AMrOllie%2FArchive+17" class="Z3988"></span></span> </li> <li id="cite_note-5"><span class="mw-cite-backlink"><b><a href="#cite_ref-5">^</a></b></span> <span class="reference-text"><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1238218222"><cite id="CITEREFLiebermanOgas2015" class="citation book cs1">Lieberman, Jeffrey A.; Ogas, Ogi (2015). <i>Shrinks: the untold story of psychiatry</i>. New York: Little, Brown and Co.</cite><span title="ctx_ver=Z39.88-2004&rft_val_fmt=info%3Aofi%2Ffmt%3Akev%3Amtx%3Abook&rft.genre=book&rft.btitle=Shrinks%3A+the+untold+story+of+psychiatry&rft.place=New+York&rft.pub=Little%2C+Brown+and+Co.&rft.date=2015&rft.aulast=Lieberman&rft.aufirst=Jeffrey+A.&rft.au=Ogas%2C+Ogi&rfr_id=info%3Asid%2Fen.wikipedia.org%3AUser+talk%3AMrOllie%2FArchive+17" class="Z3988"></span></span> </li> </ol></div></div> </div> <dl><dd>I think you have me confused with someone else. You should take this up on the associated article talk page of whichever article it is you're talking about. - <a href="/wiki/User:MrOllie" class="mw-redirect" title="User:MrOllie">MrOllie</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie#top" title="User talk:MrOllie">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-MrOllie-20230706170400-Why_did_you_remove_the_most_important_intellectual_step_of_Dr._Laing?" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:04, 6 July 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-MrOllie-20230706170400-Why_did_you_remove_the_most_important_intellectual_step_of_Dr._Laing?"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-MrOllie-20230706170400-Why_did_you_remove_the_most_important_intellectual_step_of_Dr._Laing?"></span></dd></dl> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Andrarias-20230706231300-MrOllie-20230706170400"></span>Oops! sorry! <a href="/wiki/User:Andrarias" title="User:Andrarias">Andrarias</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Andrarias" title="User talk:Andrarias">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-Andrarias-20230706231300-MrOllie-20230706170400" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:13, 6 July 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Andrarias-20230706231300-MrOllie-20230706170400"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Andrarias-20230706231300-MrOllie-20230706170400"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Addressing_Misinterpretations_and_Deletion_of_Valuable_Contributions" data-mw-thread-id="h-Addressing_Misinterpretations_and_Deletion_of_Valuable_Contributions-20230710194900"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Addressing_Misinterpretations_and_Deletion_of_Valuable_Contributions-20230710194900"></span>Addressing Misinterpretations and Deletion of Valuable Contributions<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Addressing_Misinterpretations_and_Deletion_of_Valuable_Contributions-20230710194900"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-MrOllie-20230710194900-Addressing_Misinterpretations_and_Deletion_of_Valuable_Contributions"></span>Dear MrOllie, </p><p>First and foremost, I would like to express my sincere gratitude to all Wikipedia users for their continuous effort in maintaining and improving the quality of content on the platform. It has come to my attention that some recent contributions, including my own, have been erroneously flagged as citation spam and consequently removed. </p><p>I acknowledge that there exists a multitude of renowned publications and subject-matter experts who contribute to niche and emerging areas of study. These contributions, intrinsically of high scientific merit, are integral to the comprehensive and accurate representation of knowledge that Wikipedia aims to provide. Therefore, the inadvertent removal of such valuable content could be perceived as counterproductive to our shared objective. </p><p>Upon reviewing user feedback and revision histories, it appears that there may be room for enhancement in our citation screening process to minimize misinterpretations. These improvements could help prevent the inadvertent removal of valid contributions. </p><p>While I deeply respect and appreciate the diligent vigilance applied to monitor the quality of information on Wikipedia, I respectfully suggest that a more nuanced approach may be beneficial. Such an approach could help ensure that genuine, valuable contributions are not dismissed erroneously. I kindly request consideration for revisiting the recent removals, including my contributions and others flagged under similar circumstances. </p><p>Once again, I appreciate your commitment to preserving the integrity of Wikipedia and believe that constructive dialogue like this can help us improve our collective efforts even further. <small class="autosigned">— Preceding <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Signatures" title="Wikipedia:Signatures">unsigned</a> comment added by <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Design_and_Engineering&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Design and Engineering (page does not exist)">Design and Engineering</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Design_and_Engineering#top" title="User talk:Design and Engineering">talk</a> • <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Design_and_Engineering" title="Special:Contributions/Design and Engineering">contribs</a>) </small> </p> <dl><dd>Can you explain how you are associated with Arash Yoosefdoost? How are you associated with the previous <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:SPA" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:SPA">single purpose accounts</a> who have been dedicated to adding references to that person to Wikipedia? - <a href="/wiki/User:MrOllie" class="mw-redirect" title="User:MrOllie">MrOllie</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie#top" title="User talk:MrOllie">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-MrOllie-20230710194900-Addressing_Misinterpretations_and_Deletion_of_Valuable_Contributions" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:49, 10 July 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-MrOllie-20230710194900-Addressing_Misinterpretations_and_Deletion_of_Valuable_Contributions"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-MrOllie-20230710194900-Addressing_Misinterpretations_and_Deletion_of_Valuable_Contributions"></span></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Design_and_Engineering-20230710215100-MrOllie-20230710194900"></span>Thank you for taking the time to respond to this concern. I understand the basis for your actions. However, I would like to respectfully emphasize important key points:</dd> <dd>There are indeed areas of science that are particularly novel, narrow, or advanced, and as such, the available practical information as well as number of acknowledged experts or extensively-cited or groundbreaking publications within these fields may be relatively limited. Removing practical materials with robust scientific foundation that improved a topic's quality is against Wikipedia goals. It is also important to remember that all information and materials should be backed by appropriate citations, according to Wikipedia's policy and copyright regulations.</dd> <dd>I hope this clarifies these crucial points, and I trust it will be beneficial in guiding your future contributions. I appreciate all editors' dedication and efforts to maintain the integrity and quality of this platform. <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Design_and_Engineering&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Design and Engineering (page does not exist)">Design and Engineering</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Design_and_Engineering" title="User talk:Design and Engineering">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-Design_and_Engineering-20230710215100-MrOllie-20230710194900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:51, 10 July 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Design_and_Engineering-20230710215100-MrOllie-20230710194900"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Design_and_Engineering-20230710215100-MrOllie-20230710194900"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-MrOllie-20230711103400-Design_and_Engineering-20230710215100"></span>That is in no way a response to the questions I just asked you. <a href="/wiki/User:MrOllie" class="mw-redirect" title="User:MrOllie">MrOllie</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie#top" title="User talk:MrOllie">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-MrOllie-20230711103400-Design_and_Engineering-20230710215100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:34, 11 July 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-MrOllie-20230711103400-Design_and_Engineering-20230710215100"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-MrOllie-20230711103400-Design_and_Engineering-20230710215100"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="What_is_COI_you_have_commented?" data-mw-thread-id="h-What_is_COI_you_have_commented?-20230710210000"><span id="What_is_COI_you_have_commented.3F"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-What_is_COI_you_have_commented?-20230710210000"></span>What is COI you have commented?<span data-mw-comment-end="h-What_is_COI_you_have_commented?-20230710210000"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-ISBPK23-20230710210000-What_is_COI_you_have_commented?"></span>Dear MrOllie, </p><p>I will appreciate if you let me know what do you mean by COI? IMHO, my added article "<b>Riba in Shariah</b>" is a good further read on the subject of Riba, but you have further commented as selfpromo, can you please explain why? </p><p>Secondly I will be interested to learn about your goodself in relation to the subject of Riba, please. <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:ISBPK23&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:ISBPK23 (page does not exist)">ISBPK23</a> (<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:ISBPK23&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:ISBPK23 (page does not exist)">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-ISBPK23-20230710210000-What_is_COI_you_have_commented?" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:00, 10 July 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-ISBPK23-20230710210000-What_is_COI_you_have_commented?"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-ISBPK23-20230710210000-What_is_COI_you_have_commented?"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-MrOllie-20230710211500-ISBPK23-20230710210000"></span>See <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:COI" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:COI">WP:COI</a>. Wikipedia is not a place to list your own papers, particularly ones that have just been uploaded somewhere rather than independently edited and published. <a href="/wiki/User:MrOllie" class="mw-redirect" title="User:MrOllie">MrOllie</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie#top" title="User talk:MrOllie">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-MrOllie-20230710211500-ISBPK23-20230710210000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:15, 10 July 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-MrOllie-20230710211500-ISBPK23-20230710210000"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-MrOllie-20230710211500-ISBPK23-20230710210000"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-ISBPK23-20230711104800-MrOllie-20230710211500"></span>While I can easily speculate about the primary authorship of this page on Riba, I notice several misplaced references that appear to skew the information in favor of a particular viewpoint, thereby introducing confusion to the subject. Nevertheless, I acknowledge your response, although I do not find the reasoning behind it to be satisfactory. In my opinion, the criteria for evaluating relevance and added quality should have been considered, especially if you possess firsthand expertise on the subject. <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:ISBPK23&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:ISBPK23 (page does not exist)">ISBPK23</a> (<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:ISBPK23&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:ISBPK23 (page does not exist)">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-ISBPK23-20230711104800-MrOllie-20230710211500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:48, 11 July 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-ISBPK23-20230711104800-MrOllie-20230710211500"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-ISBPK23-20230711104800-MrOllie-20230710211500"></span></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-ISBPK23-20230711105300-MrOllie-20230710211500"></span>Thank you for providing the link on Conflict of Interest (COI). Regarding the post in question, its sole intention is to provide a high-quality and informative read for individuals interested in the subject, without any ulterior motives or personal interests involved. <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:ISBPK23&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:ISBPK23 (page does not exist)">ISBPK23</a> (<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:ISBPK23&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:ISBPK23 (page does not exist)">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-ISBPK23-20230711105300-MrOllie-20230710211500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:53, 11 July 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-ISBPK23-20230711105300-MrOllie-20230710211500"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-ISBPK23-20230711105300-MrOllie-20230710211500"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Regarding_Dave_Vanian_in_influences" data-mw-thread-id="h-Regarding_Dave_Vanian_in_influences-20230710214500"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Regarding_Dave_Vanian_in_influences-20230710214500"></span>Regarding Dave Vanian in influences<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Regarding_Dave_Vanian_in_influences-20230710214500"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-GOTHICjdu-20230710214500-Regarding_Dave_Vanian_in_influences"></span>I see the faults but I had added another source that corresponds with the source that was taken issue with before for being irrelevent, I thought it would be acceptible. And I did add an NME source too that also highlights his distinct appearance for that time. <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:GOTHICjdu&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:GOTHICjdu (page does not exist)">GOTHICjdu</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:GOTHICjdu" title="User talk:GOTHICjdu">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-GOTHICjdu-20230710214500-Regarding_Dave_Vanian_in_influences" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:45, 10 July 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-GOTHICjdu-20230710214500-Regarding_Dave_Vanian_in_influences"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-GOTHICjdu-20230710214500-Regarding_Dave_Vanian_in_influences"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-MrOllie-20230710215200-GOTHICjdu-20230710214500"></span>You should work with other editors on the article's associated talk page. But the main problem is the sources, you need sources that exactly support the content (they need to say that he was influential directly, not just a quip about the Addams Family) and they need to be good sources - interviews are almost never good sources since they are almost always overly sympathetic to interview subjects. <a href="/wiki/User:MrOllie" class="mw-redirect" title="User:MrOllie">MrOllie</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie#top" title="User talk:MrOllie">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-MrOllie-20230710215200-GOTHICjdu-20230710214500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:52, 10 July 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-MrOllie-20230710215200-GOTHICjdu-20230710214500"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-MrOllie-20230710215200-GOTHICjdu-20230710214500"></span></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Woovee-20230712045500-MrOllie-20230710215200"></span>Indeed, this was bad <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Synth" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:Synth">wp:synth</a> and <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:OR" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:OR">wp:OR</a>. <a href="/wiki/User:Woovee" title="User:Woovee">Woovee</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Woovee" title="User talk:Woovee">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-Woovee-20230712045500-MrOllie-20230710215200" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">04:55, 12 July 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Woovee-20230712045500-MrOllie-20230710215200"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Woovee-20230712045500-MrOllie-20230710215200"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Why_you_are_removing_table_"Regulatory_Aproned_Drug_or_Therapy" data-mw-thread-id="h-Why_you_are_removing_table_"Regulatory_Aproned_Drug_or_Therapy-20230713180900"><span id="Why_you_are_removing_table_.22Regulatory_Aproned_Drug_or_Therapy"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Why_you_are_removing_table_"Regulatory_Aproned_Drug_or_Therapy-20230713180900"></span>Why you are removing table "Regulatory Aproned Drug or Therapy<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Why_you_are_removing_table_"Regulatory_Aproned_Drug_or_Therapy-20230713180900"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Manishgupta0724-20230713180900-Why_you_are_removing_table_"Regulatory_Aproned_Drug_or_Therapy"></span>Why you want to remove the table for the approved therapy in T1D? A table is a easiest way to summaries the approved therapy for a reader. Do you not like the simple and easy way of information for readers, if yes, then why, and if no, then dont remove it. <a href="/wiki/User:Manishgupta0724" title="User:Manishgupta0724">Manishgupta0724</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Manishgupta0724" title="User talk:Manishgupta0724">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-Manishgupta0724-20230713180900-Why_you_are_removing_table_"Regulatory_Aproned_Drug_or_Therapy" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:09, 13 July 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Manishgupta0724-20230713180900-Why_you_are_removing_table_"Regulatory_Aproned_Drug_or_Therapy"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Manishgupta0724-20230713180900-Why_you_are_removing_table_"Regulatory_Aproned_Drug_or_Therapy"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-MrOllie-20230713194300-Manishgupta0724-20230713180900"></span>There are lots of reasons to omit such a table: Wikipedia isn't a venue to provide medical advice, We're an international encyclopedia and don't recognize any one nation's approval process, we're <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:NOT" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:NOT">not a catalog</a>, and this provides <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:UNDUE" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:UNDUE">undue weight</a> on particular pharmaceutical treatments. This content simply isn't the sort of thing that should be hosted on this encyclopedia. - <a href="/wiki/User:MrOllie" class="mw-redirect" title="User:MrOllie">MrOllie</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie#top" title="User talk:MrOllie">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-MrOllie-20230713194300-Manishgupta0724-20230713180900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:43, 13 July 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-MrOllie-20230713194300-Manishgupta0724-20230713180900"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-MrOllie-20230713194300-Manishgupta0724-20230713180900"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Advice_please" data-mw-thread-id="h-Advice_please-20230713211100"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Advice_please-20230713211100"></span>Advice please<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Advice_please-20230713211100"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Knitsey-20230713211100-Advice_please"></span>At <a href="/wiki/Wings_Club" title="Wings Club">Wings Club</a>, <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Aviator1942&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Aviator1942 (page does not exist)">Aviator1942</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Aviator1942" title="User talk:Aviator1942">talk</a> <b>·</b> <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Aviator1942" title="Special:Contributions/Aviator1942">contribs</a>) has repeatedly introduced copyright Violation. See <a class="external autonumber" href="https://en.m.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wings_Club&diff=prev&oldid=1165229109">[10]</a> copied from <a rel="nofollow" class="external autonumber" href="https://wingsclub.org/history/">[11]</a> I've left a newcomers copyright message and the regular copyvio message on their talk page. They are still introducing the copyvio. What do I do now? Many thanks, <a href="/wiki/User:Knitsey" title="User:Knitsey">Knitsey</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Knitsey" title="User talk:Knitsey">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-Knitsey-20230713211100-Advice_please" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:11, 13 July 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Knitsey-20230713211100-Advice_please"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Knitsey-20230713211100-Advice_please"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Question_re:_edit_summary" data-mw-thread-id="h-Question_re:_edit_summary-20230714182400"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Question_re:_edit_summary-20230714182400"></span>Question re: edit summary<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Question_re:_edit_summary-20230714182400"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Schazjmd-20230714182400-Question_re:_edit_summary"></span>Hi, I was wondering what your <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Index_fund&diff=prev&oldid=1165365432">edit summary here</a> means. I've noticed that editor replacing URLs in refs with ecnexecution.com; is there a problem with that site? <a href="/wiki/User:Schazjmd" title="User:Schazjmd"><span style="color:#066293;"><b>Schazjmd</b></span></a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Schazjmd" title="User talk:Schazjmd"><span style="color:#738276;"><i>(talk)</i></span></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-Schazjmd-20230714182400-Question_re:_edit_summary" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:24, 14 July 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Schazjmd-20230714182400-Question_re:_edit_summary"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Schazjmd-20230714182400-Question_re:_edit_summary"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-MrOllie-20230714182700-Schazjmd-20230714182400"></span>Yes. It seems that their approach to <a href="/wiki/SEO" class="mw-redirect" title="SEO">SEO</a> is to make a copy of a PDF (without permission of the copyright holder), put it on their website, and then switch the links to their site. The linkspamming is a problem, as is linking to these PDFs per <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:COPYLINK" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:COPYLINK">WP:COPYLINK</a>. - <a href="/wiki/User:MrOllie" class="mw-redirect" title="User:MrOllie">MrOllie</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie#top" title="User talk:MrOllie">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-MrOllie-20230714182700-Schazjmd-20230714182400" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:27, 14 July 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-MrOllie-20230714182700-Schazjmd-20230714182400"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-MrOllie-20230714182700-Schazjmd-20230714182400"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Schazjmd-20230714182800-MrOllie-20230714182700"></span>Ahh, good to know. I'd already warned the editor for spamming a numerology site. <a href="/wiki/User:Schazjmd" title="User:Schazjmd"><span style="color:#066293;"><b>Schazjmd</b></span></a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Schazjmd" title="User talk:Schazjmd"><span style="color:#738276;"><i>(talk)</i></span></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-Schazjmd-20230714182800-MrOllie-20230714182700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:28, 14 July 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Schazjmd-20230714182800-MrOllie-20230714182700"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Schazjmd-20230714182800-MrOllie-20230714182700"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Explaining_changes_to_the_news_aggregator_article" data-mw-thread-id="h-Explaining_changes_to_the_news_aggregator_article-20230714211600"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Explaining_changes_to_the_news_aggregator_article-20230714211600"></span>Explaining changes to the news aggregator article<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Explaining_changes_to_the_news_aggregator_article-20230714211600"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Jarrod_Baniqued-20230714211600-Explaining_changes_to_the_news_aggregator_article"></span>I’m simply trying to update the article per the tag, and also of course, the example paper (co-written by Tegmark) I’m trying to add is actually relevant in that it shows how academia has evolved since 2018. I think that consideration, of richness of sourcing, ought to prevail over concerns over “bloat”. </p><p>Kudos for keeping the copy edits, though. <a href="/wiki/User:Jarrod_Baniqued" title="User:Jarrod Baniqued">Jarrod Baniqued (he/him)</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Jarrod_Baniqued" title="User talk:Jarrod Baniqued">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-Jarrod_Baniqued-20230714211600-Explaining_changes_to_the_news_aggregator_article" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:16, 14 July 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Jarrod_Baniqued-20230714211600-Explaining_changes_to_the_news_aggregator_article"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Jarrod_Baniqued-20230714211600-Explaining_changes_to_the_news_aggregator_article"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Why_Did_You_Remove_The_Divisibilty_Tests_Beyond_30?" data-mw-thread-id="h-Why_Did_You_Remove_The_Divisibilty_Tests_Beyond_30?-20230714152700"><span id="Why_Did_You_Remove_The_Divisibilty_Tests_Beyond_30.3F"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Why_Did_You_Remove_The_Divisibilty_Tests_Beyond_30?-20230714152700"></span>Why Did You Remove The Divisibilty Tests Beyond 30?<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Why_Did_You_Remove_The_Divisibilty_Tests_Beyond_30?-20230714152700"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-ThereNoWayOut-20230714152700-Why_Did_You_Remove_The_Divisibilty_Tests_Beyond_30?"></span>And can you at least revert the article <a href="/wiki/Divisibility_rule" title="Divisibility rule">Divisibility rule</a> to <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Divisibility_rule&diff=1162797211&oldid=1162777929">this version</a> or do something else? Because I and others loved the examples for divisibility tests beyond 30! <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:ThereNoWayOut&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:ThereNoWayOut (page does not exist)">ThereNoWayOut</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:ThereNoWayOut" title="User talk:ThereNoWayOut">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-ThereNoWayOut-20230714152700-Why_Did_You_Remove_The_Divisibilty_Tests_Beyond_30?" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:27, 14 July 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-ThereNoWayOut-20230714152700-Why_Did_You_Remove_The_Divisibilty_Tests_Beyond_30?"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-ThereNoWayOut-20230714152700-Why_Did_You_Remove_The_Divisibilty_Tests_Beyond_30?"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-MrOllie-20230714153200-ThereNoWayOut-20230714152700"></span>It was unsourced and had no inclusion criteria. The revision that you suggest has the same problems. Even if it is cut down, it will just become bloated again in short order - and since Wikipedia isn't a <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:HOWTO" class="mw-redirect mw-disambig" title="Wikipedia:HOWTO">WP:HOWTO</a> site, such lists of examples are off topic here anyway. I don't see any way to include such a list. - <a href="/wiki/User:MrOllie" class="mw-redirect" title="User:MrOllie">MrOllie</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie#top" title="User talk:MrOllie">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-MrOllie-20230714153200-ThereNoWayOut-20230714152700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:32, 14 July 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-MrOllie-20230714153200-ThereNoWayOut-20230714152700"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-MrOllie-20230714153200-ThereNoWayOut-20230714152700"></span></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Iexistlol-20230715132300-ThereNoWayOut-20230714152700"></span>I did this anyway. <a href="/w/index.php?title=Draft:Divisibility_tests_beyond_30&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Draft:Divisibility tests beyond 30 (page does not exist)">Draft:Divisibility tests beyond 30#</a> <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Iexistlol&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Iexistlol (page does not exist)">Iexistlol</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Iexistlol" title="User talk:Iexistlol">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-Iexistlol-20230715132300-ThereNoWayOut-20230714152700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:23, 15 July 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Iexistlol-20230715132300-ThereNoWayOut-20230714152700"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Iexistlol-20230715132300-ThereNoWayOut-20230714152700"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Notice_of_noticeboard_discussion" data-mw-thread-id="h-Notice_of_noticeboard_discussion-20230717085600"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Notice_of_noticeboard_discussion-20230717085600"></span>Notice of noticeboard discussion<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Notice_of_noticeboard_discussion-20230717085600"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-SirGazsi-20230717085600-Notice_of_noticeboard_discussion"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img alt="Information icon" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/1/1d/Information_icon4.svg/25px-Information_icon4.svg.png" decoding="async" width="25" height="25" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/1/1d/Information_icon4.svg/38px-Information_icon4.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/1/1d/Information_icon4.svg/50px-Information_icon4.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="620" data-file-height="620"/></span></span> There is currently a discussion at <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard" title="Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard">Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard</a> regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Thank you. <a href="/wiki/User:SirGazsi" title="User:SirGazsi">SirGazsi</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:SirGazsi" title="User talk:SirGazsi">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-SirGazsi-20230717085600-Notice_of_noticeboard_discussion" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">08:56, 17 July 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-SirGazsi-20230717085600-Notice_of_noticeboard_discussion"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-SirGazsi-20230717085600-Notice_of_noticeboard_discussion"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Read_the_journal_of_gemology_2015" data-mw-thread-id="h-Read_the_journal_of_gemology_2015-20230719032900"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Read_the_journal_of_gemology_2015-20230719032900"></span>Read the journal of gemology 2015<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Read_the_journal_of_gemology_2015-20230719032900"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Amandawhale12-20230719032900-Read_the_journal_of_gemology_2015"></span>You are continuously deleting my edits, being a new contributor I did not know before about the citations and promotional content but now i am using the same line from the journal, I respect you for what you are doing, I will be happy and satisfied if you clarify why i can not add things directly from the biggest authorities, </p><p><a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Amandawhale12&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Amandawhale12 (page does not exist)">Amandawhale12</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Amandawhale12" title="User talk:Amandawhale12">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-Amandawhale12-20230719032900-Read_the_journal_of_gemology_2015" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">03:29, 19 July 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Amandawhale12-20230719032900-Read_the_journal_of_gemology_2015"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Amandawhale12-20230719032900-Read_the_journal_of_gemology_2015"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="July_2023" data-mw-thread-id="h-July_2023-20230719230300"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-July_2023-20230719230300"></span>July 2023<span data-mw-comment-end="h-July_2023-20230719230300"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-ElKevbo-20230719230300-July_2023"></span>You've begun an edit war and blatantly ignored <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:N" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:N">WP:N</a>. Please participate in the discussion that I've opened in <a href="/wiki/Talk:Doctor_of_Business_Administration" title="Talk:Doctor of Business Administration">the article's Talk page</a>. Or open a discussion to change <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:N" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:N">WP:N</a> so it matches your preferred interpretation. <a href="/wiki/User:ElKevbo" title="User:ElKevbo">ElKevbo</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:ElKevbo" title="User talk:ElKevbo">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-ElKevbo-20230719230300-July_2023" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:03, 19 July 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-ElKevbo-20230719230300-July_2023"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-ElKevbo-20230719230300-July_2023"></span> </p> <dl><dd><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:N" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:N"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-MrOllie-20230719230700-ElKevbo-20230719230300"></span>WP:N</a> doesn't mean the concept can't be used elsewhere, such as <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:CSC" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:CSC">WP:CSC</a>. - <a href="/wiki/User:MrOllie" class="mw-redirect" title="User:MrOllie">MrOllie</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie#top" title="User talk:MrOllie">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-MrOllie-20230719230700-ElKevbo-20230719230300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:07, 19 July 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-MrOllie-20230719230700-ElKevbo-20230719230300"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-MrOllie-20230719230700-ElKevbo-20230719230300"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-ElKevbo-20230719231100-MrOllie-20230719230700"></span>It's not a standalone list. <a href="/wiki/User:ElKevbo" title="User:ElKevbo">ElKevbo</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:ElKevbo" title="User talk:ElKevbo">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-ElKevbo-20230719231100-MrOllie-20230719230700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:11, 19 July 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-ElKevbo-20230719231100-MrOllie-20230719230700"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-ElKevbo-20230719231100-MrOllie-20230719230700"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-MrOllie-20230719231200-ElKevbo-20230719231100"></span>And the common criteria are not exclusive to standalone lists. At any rate, we should not be having the same discussion in two places. Direct any follow up to the article talk page where it belongs. <a href="/wiki/User:MrOllie" class="mw-redirect" title="User:MrOllie">MrOllie</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie#top" title="User talk:MrOllie">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-MrOllie-20230719231200-ElKevbo-20230719231100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:12, 19 July 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-MrOllie-20230719231200-ElKevbo-20230719231100"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-MrOllie-20230719231200-ElKevbo-20230719231100"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-QuickQuokka-20230720115500-July_2023"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Information.svg" class="mw-file-description"><img alt="Information icon" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/2/28/Information.svg/25px-Information.svg.png" decoding="async" width="25" height="25" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/2/28/Information.svg/38px-Information.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/2/28/Information.svg/50px-Information.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="256" data-file-height="256"/></a></span> <del>Hello, I'm <a href="/wiki/User:QuickQuokka" title="User:QuickQuokka">QuickQuokka</a>. I wanted to let you know that one or more of <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/MrOllie" title="Special:Contributions/MrOllie">your recent contributions</a> to <a href="/wiki/World_Day_to_Combat_Desertification_and_Drought" title="World Day to Combat Desertification and Drought">World Day to Combat Desertification and Drought</a> have been undone because they did not appear constructive. If you would like to experiment, please use <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:MrOllie/sandbox&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:MrOllie/sandbox (page does not exist)">your sandbox</a>. If you have any questions, you can ask for assistance at the <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Teahouse" title="Wikipedia:Teahouse">Teahouse</a> or the <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Help_desk" title="Wikipedia:Help desk">Help desk</a>. Thanks.</del> <span style="border-radius:10em;padding:0 7q;background:#111"><a href="/wiki/User:QuickQuokka" title="User:QuickQuokka"><span style="color:#0DF">Quick</span><span style="color:#FAB">Quokka</span></a></span> <sup>[⁠<a href="/wiki/User_talk:QuickQuokka" title="User talk:QuickQuokka">talk</a> • <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/QuickQuokka" title="Special:Contributions/QuickQuokka">contribs</a>]</sup> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-QuickQuokka-20230720115500-July_2023" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:55, 20 July 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-QuickQuokka-20230720115500-July_2023"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-QuickQuokka-20230720115500-July_2023"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-MrOllie-20230720115500-QuickQuokka-20230720115500"></span>I was reverting a linkspammer. Please pay attention to what you're reverting next time. <a href="/wiki/User:MrOllie" class="mw-redirect" title="User:MrOllie">MrOllie</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie#top" title="User talk:MrOllie">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-MrOllie-20230720115500-QuickQuokka-20230720115500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:55, 20 July 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-MrOllie-20230720115500-QuickQuokka-20230720115500"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-MrOllie-20230720115500-QuickQuokka-20230720115500"></span> <dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-QuickQuokka-20230720115700-MrOllie-20230720115500"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:MrOllie" class="mw-redirect" title="User:MrOllie">MrOllie</a>:</span> Sorry. I just thought because your edit chaned <span class="example" style="font-family: Georgia, 'DejaVu Serif', serif; color: var(--color-content-added, #006400);">Let’s Grow the Future Together</span> → <span class="example deprecated-content example-bad" style="font-family: Georgia, 'DejaVu Serif', serif; color: var(--color-content-removed, #8B0000);">Let’s Grow the Future T farts)</span> --<span style="border-radius:10em;padding:0 7q;background:#111"><a href="/wiki/User:QuickQuokka" title="User:QuickQuokka"><span style="color:#0DF">Quick</span><span style="color:#FAB">Quokka</span></a></span> <sup>[⁠<a href="/wiki/User_talk:QuickQuokka" title="User talk:QuickQuokka">talk</a> • <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/QuickQuokka" title="Special:Contributions/QuickQuokka">contribs</a>]</sup> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-QuickQuokka-20230720115700-MrOllie-20230720115500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:57, 20 July 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-QuickQuokka-20230720115700-MrOllie-20230720115500"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-QuickQuokka-20230720115700-MrOllie-20230720115500"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-MrOllie-20230720115900-QuickQuokka-20230720115700"></span>Thanks for pointing that out, I fixed it. <a href="/wiki/User:MrOllie" class="mw-redirect" title="User:MrOllie">MrOllie</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie#top" title="User talk:MrOllie">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-MrOllie-20230720115900-QuickQuokka-20230720115700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:59, 20 July 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-MrOllie-20230720115900-QuickQuokka-20230720115700"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-MrOllie-20230720115900-QuickQuokka-20230720115700"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Request_please" data-mw-thread-id="h-Request_please-20230720130700"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Request_please-20230720130700"></span>Request please<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Request_please-20230720130700"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Knitsey-20230720130700-Request_please"></span>The sock thats creating the Billy Cranston page, I think you've reported it a number of times? Do you have the master account details? When I report to AIV I would like to add it into the report, rather than just putting LTA. <a href="/wiki/User:Knitsey" title="User:Knitsey">Knitsey</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Knitsey" title="User talk:Knitsey">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-Knitsey-20230720130700-Request_please" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:07, 20 July 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Knitsey-20230720130700-Request_please"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Knitsey-20230720130700-Request_please"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-MrOllie-20230720132000-Knitsey-20230720130700"></span>I don't think so. That page isn't on my watchlist and I don't think I've ever edited it. <a href="/wiki/User:MrOllie" class="mw-redirect" title="User:MrOllie">MrOllie</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie#top" title="User talk:MrOllie">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-MrOllie-20230720132000-Knitsey-20230720130700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:20, 20 July 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-MrOllie-20230720132000-Knitsey-20230720130700"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-MrOllie-20230720132000-Knitsey-20230720130700"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Knitsey-20230720132500-MrOllie-20230720132000"></span>Doh, sorry to have bothered you. I will go take another look. Thanks for replying. <a href="/wiki/User:Knitsey" title="User:Knitsey">Knitsey</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Knitsey" title="User talk:Knitsey">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-Knitsey-20230720132500-MrOllie-20230720132000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:25, 20 July 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Knitsey-20230720132500-MrOllie-20230720132000"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Knitsey-20230720132500-MrOllie-20230720132000"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Dear_Mr.Ollie...good_after_noon" data-mw-thread-id="h-Dear_Mr.Ollie...good_after_noon-20230723124700"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Dear_Mr.Ollie...good_after_noon-20230723124700"></span>Dear Mr.Ollie...good after noon<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Dear_Mr.Ollie...good_after_noon-20230723124700"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Jinnahpk-20230723124700-Dear_Mr.Ollie...good_after_noon"></span>Sir...I think you are chasing me or doing some discrimination ...I don't think so I did some wrong or otherwise....please cool down and spare me ...as I am learning to contribute and trying to some good...hope your goodoffice will accomodate me as junior or younger brother....thank you Sir.. Regards Jinnahpk <a href="/wiki/User:Jinnahpk" title="User:Jinnahpk">Jinnahpk</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Jinnahpk" title="User talk:Jinnahpk">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-Jinnahpk-20230723124700-Dear_Mr.Ollie...good_after_noon" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:47, 23 July 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Jinnahpk-20230723124700-Dear_Mr.Ollie...good_after_noon"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Jinnahpk-20230723124700-Dear_Mr.Ollie...good_after_noon"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-MrOllie-20230723130400-Jinnahpk-20230723124700"></span>When someone is making improper edits (such as deleting disambiguation templates or repeatedly adding personal / promotional photos) it is standard to check the rest of their contributions to see if there are more problems. You need to stop doing those things. <a href="/wiki/User:MrOllie" class="mw-redirect" title="User:MrOllie">MrOllie</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie#top" title="User talk:MrOllie">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-MrOllie-20230723130400-Jinnahpk-20230723124700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:04, 23 July 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-MrOllie-20230723130400-Jinnahpk-20230723124700"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-MrOllie-20230723130400-Jinnahpk-20230723124700"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Jinnahpk-20230723135100-MrOllie-20230723130400"></span>okay dear I will be careful in future as earlier said I am learning....anyhow you are senior ....I am learning from you...humbly submit not to single out me or some discriminatory treatment may not be given as you are not owner or director nor I am...both are doing voluntarily...you are senior ...I am junior....I undertake to be careful in future...hope you will extend your greatness...</dd> <dd>Take good care Sir...</dd> <dd>Regards</dd> <dd><a href="/w/index.php?title=Jinnahpk&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Jinnahpk (page does not exist)">jinnahpk</a> <a href="/wiki/User:Jinnahpk" title="User:Jinnahpk">Jinnahpk</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Jinnahpk" title="User talk:Jinnahpk">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-Jinnahpk-20230723135100-MrOllie-20230723130400" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:51, 23 July 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Jinnahpk-20230723135100-MrOllie-20230723130400"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Jinnahpk-20230723135100-MrOllie-20230723130400"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-MrOllie-20230723135500-Jinnahpk-20230723135100"></span>Don't call people 'dear', that is inappropriate in English. If you make errors on Wikipedia, other people will correct them. That is how this project works. We aren't going to leave problems in the articles just to protect your feelings. <a href="/wiki/User:MrOllie" class="mw-redirect" title="User:MrOllie">MrOllie</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie#top" title="User talk:MrOllie">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-MrOllie-20230723135500-Jinnahpk-20230723135100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:55, 23 July 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-MrOllie-20230723135500-Jinnahpk-20230723135100"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-MrOllie-20230723135500-Jinnahpk-20230723135100"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Jinnahpk-20230723141300-MrOllie-20230723135500"></span>Okay Sir....I am sorry and I appreciate you...</dd> <dd>If you allow Sir...may I request you humbly...please withdraw or me allow to delete the allegation of template of payment etc..which hurt me ...I am learning Wikipedia and its system which is very interesting and knowledgefull ....I will be more careful ...please allow me Sir...</dd> <dd>Best regards</dd> <dd>jinnahpk <a href="/wiki/User:Jinnahpk" title="User:Jinnahpk">Jinnahpk</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Jinnahpk" title="User talk:Jinnahpk">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-Jinnahpk-20230723141300-MrOllie-20230723135500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:13, 23 July 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Jinnahpk-20230723141300-MrOllie-20230723135500"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Jinnahpk-20230723141300-MrOllie-20230723135500"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-MrOllie-20230723141900-Jinnahpk-20230723141300"></span>No. That article is obviously promotional and the maintenance template needs to remain. <a href="/wiki/User:MrOllie" class="mw-redirect" title="User:MrOllie">MrOllie</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie#top" title="User talk:MrOllie">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-MrOllie-20230723141900-Jinnahpk-20230723141300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:19, 23 July 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-MrOllie-20230723141900-Jinnahpk-20230723141300"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-MrOllie-20230723141900-Jinnahpk-20230723141300"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Divisibility_rule" data-mw-thread-id="h-Divisibility_rule-20230723223600"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Divisibility_rule-20230723223600"></span><a href="/wiki/Divisibility_rule" title="Divisibility rule">Divisibility rule</a><span data-mw-comment-end="h-Divisibility_rule-20230723223600"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Meters-20230723223600-Divisibility_rule"></span>While I'm inclined to agree that that the article does not need detailed examples for higher numbers, I strongly suggest that you open a discussion on the article's talk page. The page was given admin-only protection for 4 days by <a href="/wiki/User:DMacks" title="User:DMacks">user:DMacks</a> as "Edit warring / content dispute" (after the material was recently removed 5 times in 2 days). Since the protection ended the material has been restored and removed three more times. With the exception of two edits by an IP and one by <a href="/wiki/User:Black_Yoshi" class="mw-redirect" title="User:Black Yoshi">user:Black Yoshi</a> all of this editing was by you and <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Iexistlol&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Iexistlol (page does not exist)">user:Iexistlol</a>. Neither of you has opened a discussion on the article's talk page. I see no grounds for claiming an edit warring exemption here, and I suspect both of you would end up blocked if this goes to <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:AN3" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:AN3">WP:AN3</a>. The admin-only protection should have been a pretty big hint to both of you. <a href="/wiki/User:Meters" title="User:Meters">Meters</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Meters" title="User talk:Meters">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-Meters-20230723223600-Divisibility_rule" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:36, 23 July 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Meters-20230723223600-Divisibility_rule"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Meters-20230723223600-Divisibility_rule"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Meters-20230723224700-Meters-20230723223600"></span>MrOllie, you know what edit warring is, so I won't template you, but consider the above a warning. I will template the other user since they are a new user who has not previously been informed. <a href="/wiki/User:Meters" title="User:Meters">Meters</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Meters" title="User talk:Meters">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-Meters-20230723224700-Meters-20230723223600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:47, 23 July 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Meters-20230723224700-Meters-20230723223600"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Meters-20230723224700-Meters-20230723223600"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Notice_of_edit_warring_noticeboard_discussion" data-mw-thread-id="h-Notice_of_edit_warring_noticeboard_discussion-20230725083200"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Notice_of_edit_warring_noticeboard_discussion-20230725083200"></span>Notice of edit warring noticeboard discussion<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Notice_of_edit_warring_noticeboard_discussion-20230725083200"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Martdj-20230725083200-Notice_of_edit_warring_noticeboard_discussion"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img alt="Information icon" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/1/1d/Information_icon4.svg/25px-Information_icon4.svg.png" decoding="async" width="25" height="25" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/1/1d/Information_icon4.svg/38px-Information_icon4.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/1/1d/Information_icon4.svg/50px-Information_icon4.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="620" data-file-height="620"/></span></span> Hello. This message is being sent to inform you that there is currently a discussion involving you at <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/Edit_warring" title="Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Edit warring">Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Edit warring</a> regarding a possible violation of Wikipedia's policy on <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Edit_warring" title="Wikipedia:Edit warring">edit warring</a>. Thank you. <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Martdj&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Martdj (page does not exist)">Martdj</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Martdj" title="User talk:Martdj">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-Martdj-20230725083200-Notice_of_edit_warring_noticeboard_discussion" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">08:32, 25 July 2023 (UTC)</a> I think Wikipedia's policy is clear. When there's poorly sourced contentious material is found, this material is removed first. Then discussed. Not the other way around. You can't hide behind "my source is from a domain that is excepted by Wikipedia as trustworthy", when multiple people have already pointed out major flaws in the article. It's a badly written paragraph, lacking proper references, and should at the very least be thoroughly rewritten.<span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Martdj-20230725083200-Notice_of_edit_warring_noticeboard_discussion"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Martdj-20230725083200-Notice_of_edit_warring_noticeboard_discussion"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-MrOllie-20230725113500-Martdj-20230725083200"></span>You thoroughly misunderstand Wikipedia's policy. You cannot <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:CRYBLP" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:CRYBLP">cry BLP</a> to edit war and keep reliably sourced information out of an article. <a href="/wiki/User:MrOllie" class="mw-redirect" title="User:MrOllie">MrOllie</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie#top" title="User talk:MrOllie">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-MrOllie-20230725113500-Martdj-20230725083200" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:35, 25 July 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-MrOllie-20230725113500-Martdj-20230725083200"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-MrOllie-20230725113500-Martdj-20230725083200"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Why?" data-mw-thread-id="h-Why?-20230726211400"><span id="Why.3F"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Why?-20230726211400"></span>Why?<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Why?-20230726211400"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><a class="external text" href="https://en.m.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special%3AMobileDiff%2F1167283915&markasread=287138642&markasreadwiki=enwiki&searchToken=f5fpg7ha1bdrugvcceb24kxdx"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Parham_wiki-20230726211400-Why?"></span>What was wrong with my edits?</a> <a href="/wiki/User:Parham_wiki" title="User:Parham wiki">Parham wiki</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Parham_wiki" title="User talk:Parham wiki">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-Parham_wiki-20230726211400-Why?" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:14, 26 July 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Parham_wiki-20230726211400-Why?"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Parham_wiki-20230726211400-Why?"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Links" data-mw-thread-id="h-Links-20230727143000"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Links-20230727143000"></span>Links<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Links-20230727143000"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-AWAZAD-20230727143000-Links"></span>Dear MrOlie, I have added detailed information about the topic which was covered in detail in the cited link. Also I have added detailed information which was reverted. I might have over linked the text but my every edit has been reverted. Can you please explain this ? Regards <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:AWAZAD&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:AWAZAD (page does not exist)">AWAZAD</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:AWAZAD" title="User talk:AWAZAD">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-AWAZAD-20230727143000-Links" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:30, 27 July 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-AWAZAD-20230727143000-Links"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-AWAZAD-20230727143000-Links"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-MrOllie-20230727143100-AWAZAD-20230727143000"></span>You're spamming external links. Stop. <a href="/wiki/User:MrOllie" class="mw-redirect" title="User:MrOllie">MrOllie</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie#top" title="User talk:MrOllie">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-MrOllie-20230727143100-AWAZAD-20230727143000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:31, 27 July 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-MrOllie-20230727143100-AWAZAD-20230727143000"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-MrOllie-20230727143100-AWAZAD-20230727143000"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-AWAZAD-20230727143900-MrOllie-20230727143100"></span>What if we cite the reference of information? is that also spamming? <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:AWAZAD&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:AWAZAD (page does not exist)">AWAZAD</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:AWAZAD" title="User talk:AWAZAD">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-AWAZAD-20230727143900-MrOllie-20230727143100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:39, 27 July 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-AWAZAD-20230727143900-MrOllie-20230727143100"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-AWAZAD-20230727143900-MrOllie-20230727143100"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-MrOllie-20230727144100-AWAZAD-20230727143900"></span>If you are adding links to your website (which does not remotely meet our sourcing requirements), you are spamming, even if you claim to <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1248585704"><q class="inline-quote-talk">cite the reference of information</q> <a href="/wiki/User:MrOllie" class="mw-redirect" title="User:MrOllie">MrOllie</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie#top" title="User talk:MrOllie">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-MrOllie-20230727144100-AWAZAD-20230727143900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:41, 27 July 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-MrOllie-20230727144100-AWAZAD-20230727143900"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-MrOllie-20230727144100-AWAZAD-20230727143900"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-AWAZAD-20230727144400-MrOllie-20230727144100"></span>Well Thanks.</dd> <dd>Can you please share Sourcing requirements for Wikipedia. <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:AWAZAD&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:AWAZAD (page does not exist)">AWAZAD</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:AWAZAD" title="User talk:AWAZAD">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-AWAZAD-20230727144400-MrOllie-20230727144100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:44, 27 July 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-AWAZAD-20230727144400-MrOllie-20230727144100"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-AWAZAD-20230727144400-MrOllie-20230727144100"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-MrOllie-20230727144800-AWAZAD-20230727144400"></span>See links in the warning message already on your own talk page. <a href="/wiki/User:MrOllie" class="mw-redirect" title="User:MrOllie">MrOllie</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie#top" title="User talk:MrOllie">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-MrOllie-20230727144800-AWAZAD-20230727144400" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:48, 27 July 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-MrOllie-20230727144800-AWAZAD-20230727144400"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-MrOllie-20230727144800-AWAZAD-20230727144400"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Kathiravan_07070707" data-mw-thread-id="h-Kathiravan_07070707-20230728054500"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Kathiravan_07070707-20230728054500"></span>Kathiravan 07070707<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Kathiravan_07070707-20230728054500"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-183.171.79.92-20230728054500-Kathiravan_07070707"></span>Kathitravan 07070707 <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/183.171.79.92" title="Special:Contributions/183.171.79.92">183.171.79.92</a> (<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:183.171.79.92&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:183.171.79.92 (page does not exist)">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-183.171.79.92-20230728054500-Kathiravan_07070707" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">05:45, 28 July 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-183.171.79.92-20230728054500-Kathiravan_07070707"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-183.171.79.92-20230728054500-Kathiravan_07070707"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="brand_journalism_is_not_same_as_advertising_or_native_advertising." data-mw-thread-id="h-brand_journalism_is_not_same_as_advertising_or_native_advertising.-20230728120600"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-brand_journalism_is_not_same_as_advertising_or_native_advertising.-20230728120600"></span>brand journalism is not same as advertising or native advertising.<span data-mw-comment-end="h-brand_journalism_is_not_same_as_advertising_or_native_advertising.-20230728120600"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Wikijournalistt-20230728120600-brand_journalism_is_not_same_as_advertising_or_native_advertising."></span>Hello. Brand journalism is not advertising because, unlike advertising, it provides information and content that adheres as much as possible to journalistic standards and informative content formats. Also, brand journalism requires an independent article from native advertising, because brand journalism must be in accordance with the standards and formats of journalism, but there is no such requirement for native advertising. So please don't delete the brand journalism article on the pretext that the two are similar. Also, please don't delete the explanation about brand journalism in the journalism article because brand journalism is different from advertising and I explained why. Thank you . <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Wikijournalistt&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Wikijournalistt (page does not exist)">Wikijournalistt</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Wikijournalistt" title="User talk:Wikijournalistt">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-Wikijournalistt-20230728120600-brand_journalism_is_not_same_as_advertising_or_native_advertising." class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:06, 28 July 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Wikijournalistt-20230728120600-brand_journalism_is_not_same_as_advertising_or_native_advertising."></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Wikijournalistt-20230728120600-brand_journalism_is_not_same_as_advertising_or_native_advertising."></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-MrOllie-20230728121600-Wikijournalistt-20230728120600"></span>Sourcing is quite clear, it is the same thing. Please stop adding your personal opinions on this to Wikipedia. It is impossible for advertising to be <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1248585704"><q class="inline-quote-talk">in accordance with the standards and formats of journalism</q>, they are fundamentally incompatible. Per <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:POVFORK" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:POVFORK">WP:POVFORK</a>, we can't have two articles on the same concept. The book you've cited even states directly that they are synonyms. <a href="/wiki/User:MrOllie" class="mw-redirect" title="User:MrOllie">MrOllie</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie#top" title="User talk:MrOllie">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-MrOllie-20230728121600-Wikijournalistt-20230728120600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:16, 28 July 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-MrOllie-20230728121600-Wikijournalistt-20230728120600"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-MrOllie-20230728121600-Wikijournalistt-20230728120600"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="About_your_conversation_with_a_new_user" data-mw-thread-id="h-About_your_conversation_with_a_new_user-20230728163500"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-About_your_conversation_with_a_new_user-20230728163500"></span>About your conversation with a new user<span data-mw-comment-end="h-About_your_conversation_with_a_new_user-20230728163500"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-TechnoSquirrel69-20230728163500-About_your_conversation_with_a_new_user"></span>Hey MrOllie, I've had <span class="plainlinks"><a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Analyst.Rehmat">Analyst.Rehmat</a></span>'s talk page on my watchlist since I left them a welcome message earlier this week, and couldn't help but notice the warning you've given them about adding inappropriate links. I wanted to clarify with you why you were using relatively harsh language in your response to them, and implying that they were engaging in sockpuppetry. Correct me if I'm missing something, but this seems like a simple case of a new user not yet fully understanding Wikipedia's guidelines and making good-faith mistakes. It seems that they need nothing more than a gentle nudge towards <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:EL" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:EL">WP:EL</a> or <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:RS" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:RS">WP:RS</a> to fix the issue. <span class="nowrap">—<a href="/wiki/User:TechnoSquirrel69" title="User:TechnoSquirrel69">TechnoSquirrel69</a></span> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:TechnoSquirrel69" title="User talk:TechnoSquirrel69">sigh</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-TechnoSquirrel69-20230728163500-About_your_conversation_with_a_new_user" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:35, 28 July 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-TechnoSquirrel69-20230728163500-About_your_conversation_with_a_new_user"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-TechnoSquirrel69-20230728163500-About_your_conversation_with_a_new_user"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-MrOllie-20230728164300-TechnoSquirrel69-20230728163500"></span>They are part of a series of accounts that has been spamming links to the same website across Wikipedia. Stiff language is sometimes needed when dealing with spammers and vandals. <a href="/wiki/User:MrOllie" class="mw-redirect" title="User:MrOllie">MrOllie</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie#top" title="User talk:MrOllie">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-MrOllie-20230728164300-TechnoSquirrel69-20230728163500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:43, 28 July 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-MrOllie-20230728164300-TechnoSquirrel69-20230728163500"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-MrOllie-20230728164300-TechnoSquirrel69-20230728163500"></span></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-TechnoSquirrel69-20230728165500-MrOllie-20230728164300"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:MrOllie" class="mw-redirect" title="User:MrOllie">MrOllie</a>:</span> Is there an SPI that determined that they were vandalizing across multiple accounts? Or was there just a surge of links to cleverbot2.com all at once? <span class="nowrap">—<a href="/wiki/User:TechnoSquirrel69" title="User:TechnoSquirrel69">TechnoSquirrel69</a></span> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:TechnoSquirrel69" title="User talk:TechnoSquirrel69">sigh</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-TechnoSquirrel69-20230728165500-MrOllie-20230728164300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:55, 28 July 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-TechnoSquirrel69-20230728165500-MrOllie-20230728164300"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-TechnoSquirrel69-20230728165500-MrOllie-20230728164300"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-MrOllie-20230728165700-TechnoSquirrel69-20230728165500"></span>We usually don't bother with SPIs when accounts are all spamming the same link. They just get blocked independently (one was blocked a couple days ago) since they're all violating the policy in the same way, and then once we rack up a half dozen or so we blacklist the site. Sometimes a firm warning halts the issue without getting the blacklist involved, which is preferable. <a href="/wiki/User:MrOllie" class="mw-redirect" title="User:MrOllie">MrOllie</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie#top" title="User talk:MrOllie">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-MrOllie-20230728165700-TechnoSquirrel69-20230728165500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:57, 28 July 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-MrOllie-20230728165700-TechnoSquirrel69-20230728165500"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-MrOllie-20230728165700-TechnoSquirrel69-20230728165500"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Analyst.Rehmat-20230728171100-MrOllie-20230728165700"></span>Can I jump in here or this is another violation? Please don't take actions if this is a violation, I am new and still learning. Thanks <a href="/wiki/User:Analyst.Rehmat" title="User:Analyst.Rehmat">Analyst.Rehmat</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Analyst.Rehmat" title="User talk:Analyst.Rehmat">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-Analyst.Rehmat-20230728171100-MrOllie-20230728165700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:11, 28 July 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Analyst.Rehmat-20230728171100-MrOllie-20230728165700"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Analyst.Rehmat-20230728171100-MrOllie-20230728165700"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-MrOllie-20230728172200-Analyst.Rehmat-20230728171100"></span>Just stop spamming. <a href="/wiki/User:MrOllie" class="mw-redirect" title="User:MrOllie">MrOllie</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie#top" title="User talk:MrOllie">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-MrOllie-20230728172200-Analyst.Rehmat-20230728171100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:22, 28 July 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-MrOllie-20230728172200-Analyst.Rehmat-20230728171100"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-MrOllie-20230728172200-Analyst.Rehmat-20230728171100"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-TechnoSquirrel69-20230728172400-Analyst.Rehmat-20230728171100"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:Analyst.Rehmat" title="User:Analyst.Rehmat">Analyst.Rehmat</a>:</span> Yes, the links you are adding to the <a href="/wiki/Cleverbot" title="Cleverbot">Cleverbot</a> article don't appear to be constructive. cleverbot2.com does not appear to be affiliated with the actual Cleverbot, so linking to that site would be inappropriate on this article. With that said, I've reverted your edit again. I'm going to <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:AGF" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:AGF">assume good faith</a> and trust that you're not intending to vandalize with these edits I would recommend that you check out <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:RS" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:RS">WP:RS</a> for information on identifying appropriate sources to add to Wikipedia. <span class="nowrap">—<a href="/wiki/User:TechnoSquirrel69" title="User:TechnoSquirrel69">TechnoSquirrel69</a></span> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:TechnoSquirrel69" title="User talk:TechnoSquirrel69">sigh</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-TechnoSquirrel69-20230728172400-Analyst.Rehmat-20230728171100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:24, 28 July 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-TechnoSquirrel69-20230728172400-Analyst.Rehmat-20230728171100"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-TechnoSquirrel69-20230728172400-Analyst.Rehmat-20230728171100"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Analyst.Rehmat-20230728173000-TechnoSquirrel69-20230728172400"></span>Dear Ollie,</dd> <dd>I appreciate your efforts to ensure Wikipedia's authenticity. However, I'd like to clarify a point regarding dead links. According to my understanding, when encountering dead links, they should either be removed or replaced with live links.</dd> <dd>Regarding the web-archive concern, I want to highlight that cleverbot.io was not the official website for Cleverbot. The correct and official web application is Cleverbot.com, which is already live. It seems that instead of adding live links, dead links were inadvertently placed.</dd> <dd>Let's work together to maintain the accuracy and reliability of Wikipedia by making the necessary corrections. Thank you for your attention to this matter and please correct me if I am wrong here. Thanks again. <a href="/wiki/User:Analyst.Rehmat" title="User:Analyst.Rehmat">Analyst.Rehmat</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Analyst.Rehmat" title="User talk:Analyst.Rehmat">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-Analyst.Rehmat-20230728173000-TechnoSquirrel69-20230728172400" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:30, 28 July 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Analyst.Rehmat-20230728173000-TechnoSquirrel69-20230728172400"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Analyst.Rehmat-20230728173000-TechnoSquirrel69-20230728172400"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Analyst.Rehmat-20230728173400-Analyst.Rehmat-20230728173000"></span>I believe my edit was an improvement over yours, wouldn't you agree? Please understand that I'm just asking and not trying to be offensive. Let's have a constructive discussion about the edits.</dd> <dd>Thanks <a href="/wiki/User:Analyst.Rehmat" title="User:Analyst.Rehmat">Analyst.Rehmat</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Analyst.Rehmat" title="User talk:Analyst.Rehmat">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-Analyst.Rehmat-20230728173400-Analyst.Rehmat-20230728173000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:34, 28 July 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Analyst.Rehmat-20230728173400-Analyst.Rehmat-20230728173000"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Analyst.Rehmat-20230728173400-Analyst.Rehmat-20230728173000"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-MrOllie-20230728181000-Analyst.Rehmat-20230728173400"></span>No, you are completely wrong about this. The fact that a dead link exists does not mean that any live link can be added in its place. You are always responsible for the links you add, including making sure that they are not spam links, are <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:RS" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:RS">reliable sources</a>, and actually support the statements they purport to cite. Your edit was not an improvement, that is why it was reverted. <a href="/wiki/User:MrOllie" class="mw-redirect" title="User:MrOllie">MrOllie</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie#top" title="User talk:MrOllie">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-MrOllie-20230728181000-Analyst.Rehmat-20230728173400" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:10, 28 July 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-MrOllie-20230728181000-Analyst.Rehmat-20230728173400"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-MrOllie-20230728181000-Analyst.Rehmat-20230728173400"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Kuru-20230728190600-TechnoSquirrel69-20230728163500"></span>Dang it. <span class="template-ping">@<a href="/wiki/User:Girth_Summit" title="User:Girth Summit">Girth Summit</a>:</span> beat me to it with fancy checkuser tools. Anyways, this is a massive sock farm - tracks back to your old <a href="/wiki/MediaWiki_talk:Spam-blacklist/archives/March_2023#mrexamples.com" title="MediaWiki talk:Spam-blacklist/archives/March 2023">MediaWiki_talk:Spam-blacklist/archives/March_2023#mrexamples.com</a> report. I think Misbah6666 is the oldest. Lots of overlap in the domains mapped. Since they've all been used abusively, I'm going to blacklist the rest (ilovepdf2.com, cleverbot2.com, pythononlinecompiler.com, javascriptonlinecompiler.com, jsonminify.com, unminifyall.com, emailidator.com). <i><a href="/wiki/User:Kuru" title="User:Kuru">Sam <b>Kuru</b></a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Kuru" title="User talk:Kuru">(talk)</a></i> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-Kuru-20230728190600-TechnoSquirrel69-20230728163500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:06, 28 July 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Kuru-20230728190600-TechnoSquirrel69-20230728163500"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Kuru-20230728190600-TechnoSquirrel69-20230728163500"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Girth_Summit-20230728191000-Kuru-20230728190600"></span>I picked it up at AIV, and blocked a bunch of accounts and recorded what I'd done at <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Sockpuppet_investigations/Brandon_Smith121" title="Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Brandon Smith121">Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Brandon Smith121</a>. Looks like the reports in the blacklist archive you linked to will be stale, but if there is an existing SPI case or similar that I can link them to, let me know. <a href="/wiki/User:Girth_Summit" title="User:Girth Summit"><span style="font-family:Impact;color:#006400;">Girth</span> <span style="font-family:Impact;color:#4B0082;">Summit</span></a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Girth_Summit" title="User talk:Girth Summit"><sub style="font-family:Segoe print;color:blue;"> (blether)</sub></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-Girth_Summit-20230728191000-Kuru-20230728190600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:10, 28 July 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Girth_Summit-20230728191000-Kuru-20230728190600"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Girth_Summit-20230728191000-Kuru-20230728190600"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Kuru-20230728192000-Girth_Summit-20230728191000"></span>No significant outliers; you blocked every one of the recent ones on my list I was ticking off. I presume AlexJohnn55 was not molested since he was already blocked - or was he not a match? <i><a href="/wiki/User:Kuru" title="User:Kuru">Sam <b>Kuru</b></a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Kuru" title="User talk:Kuru">(talk)</a></i> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-Kuru-20230728192000-Girth_Summit-20230728191000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:20, 28 July 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Kuru-20230728192000-Girth_Summit-20230728191000"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Kuru-20230728192000-Girth_Summit-20230728191000"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Girth_Summit-20230728192800-Kuru-20230728192000"></span>Oh, yes, forgot about them - yes, they're confirmed too, you're right I didn't bother listing them because they were already blocked, but I've added them for completeness. That's all I can see - feel free to ping me if any more crop up and I'll deploy the CU broom. <a href="/wiki/User:Girth_Summit" title="User:Girth Summit"><span style="font-family:Impact;color:#006400;">Girth</span> <span style="font-family:Impact;color:#4B0082;">Summit</span></a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Girth_Summit" title="User talk:Girth Summit"><sub style="font-family:Segoe print;color:blue;"> (blether)</sub></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-Girth_Summit-20230728192800-Kuru-20230728192000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:28, 28 July 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Girth_Summit-20230728192800-Kuru-20230728192000"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Girth_Summit-20230728192800-Kuru-20230728192000"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Kuru-20230728192900-Girth_Summit-20230728192800"></span>You're awesome. Thanks. <i><a href="/wiki/User:Kuru" title="User:Kuru">Sam <b>Kuru</b></a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Kuru" title="User talk:Kuru">(talk)</a></i> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-Kuru-20230728192900-Girth_Summit-20230728192800" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:29, 28 July 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Kuru-20230728192900-Girth_Summit-20230728192800"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Kuru-20230728192900-Girth_Summit-20230728192800"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Revert_on_the_Photographic_Film_Page" data-mw-thread-id="h-Revert_on_the_Photographic_Film_Page-20230729211900"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Revert_on_the_Photographic_Film_Page-20230729211900"></span>Revert on the Photographic Film Page<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Revert_on_the_Photographic_Film_Page-20230729211900"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-FilmDoodler-20230729211900-Revert_on_the_Photographic_Film_Page"></span>Hello MrOllie, I would like to know why you reverted what I just added on this section: <a href="/wiki/Photographic_film#In_production" title="Photographic film">Photographic film#In production</a> </p><p>Film Photography Project states on their site that they acquired old equipment from the Svema plant to resume production of Svema branded film in Ukraine. </p><p>I do not know exactly when they have started doing this, but there is a capture as early as April, 2018 on the Wayback Machine for this url: </p><p><a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="https://filmphotographystore.com/collections/svema-film">https://filmphotographystore.com/collections/svema-film</a> </p><p>Does Shostka, Ukraine not count as another legitimate coating plant? </p><p>Is the source not reliable because it is a store site? </p><p>Why did you revert my edit? </p><p>Thanks, </p><p><a href="/wiki/User:FilmDoodler" title="User:FilmDoodler">FilmDoodler</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:FilmDoodler" title="User talk:FilmDoodler">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-FilmDoodler-20230729211900-Revert_on_the_Photographic_Film_Page" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:19, 29 July 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-FilmDoodler-20230729211900-Revert_on_the_Photographic_Film_Page"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-FilmDoodler-20230729211900-Revert_on_the_Photographic_Film_Page"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-MrOllie-20230729212000-FilmDoodler-20230729211900"></span>We don't link to people's web stores. <a href="/wiki/User:MrOllie" class="mw-redirect" title="User:MrOllie">MrOllie</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie#top" title="User talk:MrOllie">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-MrOllie-20230729212000-FilmDoodler-20230729211900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:20, 29 July 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-MrOllie-20230729212000-FilmDoodler-20230729211900"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-MrOllie-20230729212000-FilmDoodler-20230729211900"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-FilmDoodler-20230729212500-MrOllie-20230729212000"></span>Well, can I ask for a link to the directory if you're going to cut that entire section then?</dd> <dd><a href="/wiki/User:FilmDoodler" title="User:FilmDoodler">FilmDoodler</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:FilmDoodler" title="User talk:FilmDoodler">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-FilmDoodler-20230729212500-MrOllie-20230729212000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:25, 29 July 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-FilmDoodler-20230729212500-MrOllie-20230729212000"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-FilmDoodler-20230729212500-MrOllie-20230729212000"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-FilmDoodler-20230729213500-FilmDoodler-20230729212500"></span>Entirely disregard; I am new here,</dd> <dd>I have found out <a href="/wiki/List_of_photographic_films" title="List of photographic films">List of photographic films</a> exists. <a href="/wiki/User:FilmDoodler" title="User:FilmDoodler">FilmDoodler</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:FilmDoodler" title="User talk:FilmDoodler">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-FilmDoodler-20230729213500-FilmDoodler-20230729212500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:35, 29 July 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-FilmDoodler-20230729213500-FilmDoodler-20230729212500"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-FilmDoodler-20230729213500-FilmDoodler-20230729212500"></span></dd></dl></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-FilmDoodler-20230729214600-MrOllie-20230729212000"></span>Glad to have corrected an error :) <a href="/wiki/User:FilmDoodler" title="User:FilmDoodler">FilmDoodler</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:FilmDoodler" title="User talk:FilmDoodler">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-FilmDoodler-20230729214600-MrOllie-20230729212000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:46, 29 July 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-FilmDoodler-20230729214600-MrOllie-20230729212000"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-FilmDoodler-20230729214600-MrOllie-20230729212000"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="I_don't_understand_what's_inappropriate_about_the_link." data-mw-thread-id="h-I_don't_understand_what's_inappropriate_about_the_link.-20230729223600"><span id="I_don.27t_understand_what.27s_inappropriate_about_the_link."></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-I_don't_understand_what's_inappropriate_about_the_link.-20230729223600"></span>I don't understand what's inappropriate about the link.<span data-mw-comment-end="h-I_don't_understand_what's_inappropriate_about_the_link.-20230729223600"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Content_strategist_1-20230729223600-I_don't_understand_what's_inappropriate_about_the_link."></span>Hello! @<a href="/wiki/User:MrOllie" class="mw-redirect" title="User:MrOllie">MrOllie</a> I have done a small edit in the page and the link i cited had the detailed information about the topic. what's spam in it? </p><p><a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Content_strategist_1&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Content strategist 1 (page does not exist)">Content strategist 1</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Content_strategist_1" title="User talk:Content strategist 1">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-Content_strategist_1-20230729223600-I_don't_understand_what's_inappropriate_about_the_link." class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:36, 29 July 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Content_strategist_1-20230729223600-I_don't_understand_what's_inappropriate_about_the_link."></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Content_strategist_1-20230729223600-I_don't_understand_what's_inappropriate_about_the_link."></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-MrOllie-20230729223700-Content_strategist_1-20230729223600"></span>Your blog does not remotely meet our policy requirements. Adding your site was linkspamming as we define it on Wikipedia. <a href="/wiki/User:MrOllie" class="mw-redirect" title="User:MrOllie">MrOllie</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie#top" title="User talk:MrOllie">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-MrOllie-20230729223700-Content_strategist_1-20230729223600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:37, 29 July 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-MrOllie-20230729223700-Content_strategist_1-20230729223600"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-MrOllie-20230729223700-Content_strategist_1-20230729223600"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Content_strategist_1-20230729224100-MrOllie-20230729223700"></span>Got it. but i don't agree with you on this <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Content_strategist_1&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Content strategist 1 (page does not exist)">Content strategist 1</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Content_strategist_1" title="User talk:Content strategist 1">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-Content_strategist_1-20230729224100-MrOllie-20230729223700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:41, 29 July 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Content_strategist_1-20230729224100-MrOllie-20230729223700"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Content_strategist_1-20230729224100-MrOllie-20230729223700"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-MrOllie-20230729225200-Content_strategist_1-20230729224100"></span>You're allowed to disagree with Wikipedia's policies, but you've got to follow them anyway. <a href="/wiki/User:MrOllie" class="mw-redirect" title="User:MrOllie">MrOllie</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie#top" title="User talk:MrOllie">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-MrOllie-20230729225200-Content_strategist_1-20230729224100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:52, 29 July 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-MrOllie-20230729225200-Content_strategist_1-20230729224100"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-MrOllie-20230729225200-Content_strategist_1-20230729224100"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Twinkle" data-mw-thread-id="h-Twinkle-20230730050800"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Twinkle-20230730050800"></span>Twinkle<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Twinkle-20230730050800"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-2804:F14:80B2:4F01:FD70:3461:5359:B35D-20230730050800-Twinkle"></span>I just noticed <a href="/wiki/Special:Diff/1167716424" title="Special:Diff/1167716424"><this></a> warning you gave a user using Twinkle, seems that it broke. </p><p>From experience if you include "[[" inside a template, but don't close it ( {{subst:void|[[like this}} ), it doesn't do anything.<br/> Although I do realize that your case happened because of a typo (should have been a single opening square bracket). – <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/2804:F14:80B2:4F01:FD70:3461:5359:B35D" title="Special:Contributions/2804:F14:80B2:4F01:FD70:3461:5359:B35D">2804:F14:80B2:4F01:FD70:3461:5359:B35D</a> (<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:2804:F14:80B2:4F01:FD70:3461:5359:B35D&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:2804:F14:80B2:4F01:FD70:3461:5359:B35D (page does not exist)">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-2804:F14:80B2:4F01:FD70:3461:5359:B35D-20230730050800-Twinkle" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">05:08, 30 July 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-2804:F14:80B2:4F01:FD70:3461:5359:B35D-20230730050800-Twinkle"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-2804:F14:80B2:4F01:FD70:3461:5359:B35D-20230730050800-Twinkle"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-2804:F14:80A4:9701:D537:4E86:F39C:17C-20230806225900-2804:F14:80B2:4F01:FD70:3461:5359:B35D-20230730050800"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:MrOllie" class="mw-redirect" title="User:MrOllie">MrOllie</a>:</span> Just wanted to make sure you saw this, since I sent this just as you (I'm guessing) went away for a few days and other -ignorable- edits happened to this page after it. – <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/2804:F14:80A4:9701:D537:4E86:F39C:17C" title="Special:Contributions/2804:F14:80A4:9701:D537:4E86:F39C:17C">2804:F14:80A4:9701:D537:4E86:F39C:17C</a> (<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:2804:F14:80A4:9701:D537:4E86:F39C:17C&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:2804:F14:80A4:9701:D537:4E86:F39C:17C (page does not exist)">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-2804:F14:80A4:9701:D537:4E86:F39C:17C-20230806225900-2804:F14:80B2:4F01:FD70:3461:5359:B35D-20230730050800" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:59, 6 August 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-2804:F14:80A4:9701:D537:4E86:F39C:17C-20230806225900-2804:F14:80B2:4F01:FD70:3461:5359:B35D-20230730050800"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-2804:F14:80A4:9701:D537:4E86:F39C:17C-20230806225900-2804:F14:80B2:4F01:FD70:3461:5359:B35D-20230730050800"></span></dd></dl> <p><span style="font-size:smaller;"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Sundayclose-20230806233200-Twinkle"></span>(<a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Talk_page_stalker" title="Wikipedia:Talk page stalker">talk page stalker</a>)</span> I left a level 2 spam warning and removed the malformed warning. <a href="/wiki/User:Sundayclose" title="User:Sundayclose">Sundayclose</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Sundayclose" title="User talk:Sundayclose">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-Sundayclose-20230806233200-Twinkle" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:32, 6 August 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Sundayclose-20230806233200-Twinkle"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Sundayclose-20230806233200-Twinkle"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="news_reporting" data-mw-thread-id="h-news_reporting-20230807171400"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-news_reporting-20230807171400"></span>news reporting<span data-mw-comment-end="h-news_reporting-20230807171400"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Wikijournalistt-20230807171400-news_reporting"></span>news reporting is a subfield of journalism. all subfields of journalism have article. why you do not let it to have special article? what is your problem? <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Wikijournalistt&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Wikijournalistt (page does not exist)">Wikijournalistt</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Wikijournalistt" title="User talk:Wikijournalistt">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-Wikijournalistt-20230807171400-news_reporting" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:14, 7 August 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Wikijournalistt-20230807171400-news_reporting"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Wikijournalistt-20230807171400-news_reporting"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-MrOllie-20230807174200-Wikijournalistt-20230807171400"></span>No, they are the same thing per the cited sources. You must stop moving articles and rewriting them based on your personal opinions, which are at odds with the relevant literature. What you are doing is disrupting Wikipedia. <a href="/wiki/User:MrOllie" class="mw-redirect" title="User:MrOllie">MrOllie</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie#top" title="User talk:MrOllie">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-MrOllie-20230807174200-Wikijournalistt-20230807171400" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:42, 7 August 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-MrOllie-20230807174200-Wikijournalistt-20230807171400"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-MrOllie-20230807174200-Wikijournalistt-20230807171400"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="DJFLEX-mk2" data-mw-thread-id="h-DJFLEX-mk2-20230807221300"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-DJFLEX-mk2-20230807221300"></span>DJFLEX-mk2<span data-mw-comment-end="h-DJFLEX-mk2-20230807221300"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-MrOllie-20230807221300-DJFLEX-mk2"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:MrOllie" class="mw-redirect" title="User:MrOllie">MrOllie</a> You did not bother to look deeper into this, I was there in late 1970's and 1980's (History). How are your sources reliable on your part to remove contents? DJFLEX-mk2 <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-MrOllie-20230807221300-DJFLEX-mk2" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:13, 7 August 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-MrOllie-20230807221300-DJFLEX-mk2"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-MrOllie-20230807221300-DJFLEX-mk2"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-MrOllie-20230807222100-MrOllie-20230807221300"></span>There are no sources cited on that article section. Sources are required to verify content (see <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:V" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:V">WP:V</a>). This is core Wikipedia policy. 'I was there' is not sufficient, readers need to be able to verify the sources themselves. <a href="/wiki/User:MrOllie" class="mw-redirect" title="User:MrOllie">MrOllie</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie#top" title="User talk:MrOllie">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-MrOllie-20230807222100-MrOllie-20230807221300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:21, 7 August 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-MrOllie-20230807222100-MrOllie-20230807221300"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-MrOllie-20230807222100-MrOllie-20230807221300"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Kmart" data-mw-thread-id="h-Kmart-20230807215500"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Kmart-20230807215500"></span>Kmart<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Kmart-20230807215500"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Mmartinezmdr-20230807215500-Kmart"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:MrOllie" class="mw-redirect" title="User:MrOllie">MrOllie</a> why did you remove my edit and what talk page are you talking about? You better not say that because the sources are not reliable because they are. Do your research. In the meantime, im reverting my edit. <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Mmartinezmdr&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Mmartinezmdr (page does not exist)">Mmartinezmdr</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Mmartinezmdr" class="mw-redirect" title="User talk:Mmartinezmdr">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-Mmartinezmdr-20230807215500-Kmart" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:55, 7 August 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Mmartinezmdr-20230807215500-Kmart"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Mmartinezmdr-20230807215500-Kmart"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-MrOllie-20230807221800-Mmartinezmdr-20230807215500"></span>Kmart's article talk page, where it is discussed that at least one of the sources you used did not support the content, where there is agreement not to cover announcements until the store actually closes, and where it has been explained (many times) that the number of remaining stores cannot be updated until a new source for the number is available. If you don't know how to read talk pages, see <a href="/wiki/Help:Talk" class="mw-redirect" title="Help:Talk">Help:talk</a>. - <a href="/wiki/User:MrOllie" class="mw-redirect" title="User:MrOllie">MrOllie</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie#top" title="User talk:MrOllie">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-MrOllie-20230807221800-Mmartinezmdr-20230807215500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:18, 7 August 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-MrOllie-20230807221800-Mmartinezmdr-20230807215500"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-MrOllie-20230807221800-Mmartinezmdr-20230807215500"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Mmartinezmdr-20230807222100-MrOllie-20230807221800"></span>send me the "Kmart's article talk page" please. <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Mmartinezmdr&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Mmartinezmdr (page does not exist)">Mmartinezmdr</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Mmartinezmdr" class="mw-redirect" title="User talk:Mmartinezmdr">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-Mmartinezmdr-20230807222100-MrOllie-20230807221800" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:21, 7 August 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Mmartinezmdr-20230807222100-MrOllie-20230807221800"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Mmartinezmdr-20230807222100-MrOllie-20230807221800"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-MrOllie-20230807222300-Mmartinezmdr-20230807222100"></span>Click on the tab that says 'talk' at the Kmart article. Or read the help file I just linked. <a href="/wiki/User:MrOllie" class="mw-redirect" title="User:MrOllie">MrOllie</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie#top" title="User talk:MrOllie">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-MrOllie-20230807222300-Mmartinezmdr-20230807222100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:23, 7 August 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-MrOllie-20230807222300-Mmartinezmdr-20230807222100"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-MrOllie-20230807222300-Mmartinezmdr-20230807222100"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Citation_spam" data-mw-thread-id="h-Citation_spam-20230807234700"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Citation_spam-20230807234700"></span>Citation spam<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Citation_spam-20230807234700"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Majavic-20230807234700-Citation_spam"></span>But MrOllie, you are doing the same as a dictator. Who are you to decide the policies of Wikipedia? Do you know everything? <small class="autosigned">— Preceding <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Signatures" title="Wikipedia:Signatures">unsigned</a> comment added by <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Majavic&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Majavic (page does not exist)">Majavic</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Majavic#top" title="User talk:Majavic">talk</a> • <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Majavic" title="Special:Contributions/Majavic">contribs</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-Majavic-20230807234700-Citation_spam" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:47, 7 August 2023 (UTC)</a></small><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Majavic-20230807234700-Citation_spam"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Majavic-20230807234700-Citation_spam"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-MrOllie-20230807235500-Majavic-20230807234700"></span>I know that you've been abusing Wikipedia and blatantly violating its terms of use. Just stop spamming us with promotional junk, please. You're not going to be able to evade detection by IP socking. - <a href="/wiki/User:MrOllie" class="mw-redirect" title="User:MrOllie">MrOllie</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie#top" title="User talk:MrOllie">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-MrOllie-20230807235500-Majavic-20230807234700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:55, 7 August 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-MrOllie-20230807235500-Majavic-20230807234700"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-MrOllie-20230807235500-Majavic-20230807234700"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="disruptive_editing" data-mw-thread-id="h-disruptive_editing-20230808025300"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-disruptive_editing-20230808025300"></span>disruptive editing<span data-mw-comment-end="h-disruptive_editing-20230808025300"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Westerosi456H-20230808025300-disruptive_editing"></span>Hi, you recently posted a warning on my page regarding edit war. however you didn't issue the same warning to User:ජපස I believe user jps was the one who was engaged in reverting my edits and making other changes as well without discussion. I was waiting for other editors to comment and in the next few days to ask for dispute resolution. But you issued a warning to me and made an edit to the article confirming jps edits. It appears to me that your actions may be interpreted by some as being biased towards a specific user. I was wondering if you could please address my concern. There may be a misunderstanding. <a href="/wiki/User:Westerosi456H" title="User:Westerosi456H">Westerosi456H</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Westerosi456H" title="User talk:Westerosi456H">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-Westerosi456H-20230808025300-disruptive_editing" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">02:53, 8 August 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Westerosi456H-20230808025300-disruptive_editing"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Westerosi456H-20230808025300-disruptive_editing"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-MrOllie-20230808025500-Westerosi456H-20230808025300"></span>You should worry more about your own behavior and less about jps. Treating Wikipedia as a <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:BATTLEGROUND" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:BATTLEGROUND">WP:BATTLEGROUND</a> as you have been is a good way to find yourself blocked. <a href="/wiki/User:MrOllie" class="mw-redirect" title="User:MrOllie">MrOllie</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie#top" title="User talk:MrOllie">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-MrOllie-20230808025500-Westerosi456H-20230808025300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">02:55, 8 August 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-MrOllie-20230808025500-Westerosi456H-20230808025300"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-MrOllie-20230808025500-Westerosi456H-20230808025300"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Westerosi456H-20230808025800-MrOllie-20230808025500"></span>Well I think your behaviour is treating wikipedia as a playground and you appear to be the one who started this argument. Regardless i'm not going to continue this discussion. <a href="/wiki/User:Westerosi456H" title="User:Westerosi456H">Westerosi456H</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Westerosi456H" title="User talk:Westerosi456H">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-Westerosi456H-20230808025800-MrOllie-20230808025500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">02:58, 8 August 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Westerosi456H-20230808025800-MrOllie-20230808025500"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Westerosi456H-20230808025800-MrOllie-20230808025500"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Warning_08.07.2023" data-mw-thread-id="h-Warning_08.07.2023-20230808143200"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Warning_08.07.2023-20230808143200"></span>Warning 08.07.2023<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Warning_08.07.2023-20230808143200"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Solaire_the_knight-20230808143200-Warning_08.07.2023"></span>Please refrain from instantly reverting someone else's edits, especially if they were accompanied by a comment about replacing the questionable source with a source request in the hope that someone will fix the problem. In this way, you not only do not solve the problem, but only worsen it, provoking an edit war and worsening the atmosphere due to a rude tone like "crap source". <a href="/wiki/User:Solaire_the_knight" title="User:Solaire the knight">Solaire the knight</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Solaire_the_knight" title="User talk:Solaire the knight">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-Solaire_the_knight-20230808143200-Warning_08.07.2023" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:32, 8 August 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Solaire_the_knight-20230808143200-Warning_08.07.2023"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Solaire_the_knight-20230808143200-Warning_08.07.2023"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-MrOllie-20230808143300-Solaire_the_knight-20230808143200"></span>Please refrain from edit warring with other editors who are removing crap sources or unsourced content. <a href="/wiki/User:MrOllie" class="mw-redirect" title="User:MrOllie">MrOllie</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie#top" title="User talk:MrOllie">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-MrOllie-20230808143300-Solaire_the_knight-20230808143200" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:33, 8 August 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-MrOllie-20230808143300-Solaire_the_knight-20230808143200"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-MrOllie-20230808143300-Solaire_the_knight-20230808143200"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Solaire_the_knight-20230808143500-MrOllie-20230808143300"></span>In this case, you are in the edit war, removing other people's edits almost instantly, resolving the conflict, and not even allowing you to replace the source with the source request. This is clearly conflicting behavior. <a href="/wiki/User:Solaire_the_knight" title="User:Solaire the knight">Solaire the knight</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Solaire_the_knight" title="User talk:Solaire the knight">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-Solaire_the_knight-20230808143500-MrOllie-20230808143300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:35, 8 August 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Solaire_the_knight-20230808143500-MrOllie-20230808143300"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Solaire_the_knight-20230808143500-MrOllie-20230808143300"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-MrOllie-20230808143700-Solaire_the_knight-20230808143500"></span>Leaving it unsourced is not better. It has been challenged - you either source it properly or leave it out. You must comply with Wikipedia policy on this, including <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:V" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:V">WP:V</a> and <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:RS" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:RS">WP:RS</a>. <a href="/wiki/User:MrOllie" class="mw-redirect" title="User:MrOllie">MrOllie</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie#top" title="User talk:MrOllie">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-MrOllie-20230808143700-Solaire_the_knight-20230808143500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:37, 8 August 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-MrOllie-20230808143700-Solaire_the_knight-20230808143500"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-MrOllie-20230808143700-Solaire_the_knight-20230808143500"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Solaire_the_knight-20230808145800-MrOllie-20230808143700"></span>Stop, stop. Do you understand how the "source request" works and what it is used for? You are now actually denying the meaning of this template, since you are literally demolishing the information marked by it as "unsoursed". <a href="/wiki/User:Solaire_the_knight" title="User:Solaire the knight">Solaire the knight</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Solaire_the_knight" title="User talk:Solaire the knight">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-Solaire_the_knight-20230808145800-MrOllie-20230808143700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:58, 8 August 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Solaire_the_knight-20230808145800-MrOllie-20230808143700"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Solaire_the_knight-20230808145800-MrOllie-20230808143700"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-UtherSRG-20230808150500-Solaire_the_knight-20230808145800"></span>It is highly appropriate to remove any material not supported by a reliable source. The <span class="nowrap">{{</span><a href="/wiki/Template:Cn" class="mw-redirect" title="Template:Cn">cn</a><span class="nowrap">}}</span> tag system is an optional method, when there is no question that the information is correct but a current source isn't yet found. - <a href="/wiki/User:UtherSRG" title="User:UtherSRG">UtherSRG</a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:UtherSRG" title="User talk:UtherSRG">(talk)</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-UtherSRG-20230808150500-Solaire_the_knight-20230808145800" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:05, 8 August 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-UtherSRG-20230808150500-Solaire_the_knight-20230808145800"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-UtherSRG-20230808150500-Solaire_the_knight-20230808145800"></span> <dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Solaire_the_knight-20230808150800-UtherSRG-20230808150500"></span>So the information is really correct and known to any player in this game. Moreover, many people know about this game thanks to this meme. What's the point of asking if you can't even supply it? <a href="/wiki/User:Solaire_the_knight" title="User:Solaire the knight">Solaire the knight</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Solaire_the_knight" title="User talk:Solaire the knight">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-Solaire_the_knight-20230808150800-UtherSRG-20230808150500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:08, 8 August 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Solaire_the_knight-20230808150800-UtherSRG-20230808150500"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Solaire_the_knight-20230808150800-UtherSRG-20230808150500"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-MrOllie-20230808151100-Solaire_the_knight-20230808150800"></span>The claims are highly dubious. It is extremely unlikely that 'many people' know about it. But at any rate, it has been challenged and now should not be restored without sourcing. That is basic Wikipedia policy. <a href="/wiki/User:MrOllie" class="mw-redirect" title="User:MrOllie">MrOllie</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie#top" title="User talk:MrOllie">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-MrOllie-20230808151100-Solaire_the_knight-20230808150800" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:11, 8 August 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-MrOllie-20230808151100-Solaire_the_knight-20230808150800"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-MrOllie-20230808151100-Solaire_the_knight-20230808150800"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Solaire_the_knight-20230808151700-MrOllie-20230808151100"></span>If you are unfamiliar with the game and find it debatable, you could let me put in a source request and I or another user would find another source. But you just went for a confrontation, which only made it pointlessly personal. Even though you weren't even involved, I reverted another user's edit. <a href="/wiki/User:Solaire_the_knight" title="User:Solaire the knight">Solaire the knight</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Solaire_the_knight" title="User talk:Solaire the knight">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-Solaire_the_knight-20230808151700-MrOllie-20230808151100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:17, 8 August 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Solaire_the_knight-20230808151700-MrOllie-20230808151100"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Solaire_the_knight-20230808151700-MrOllie-20230808151100"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-MrOllie-20230808152000-Solaire_the_knight-20230808151700"></span>You are perfectly capable of finding another source without also edit warring the unsourced text back in. But at any rate, it is not productive to argue about it here while the ANI is in progress. Please do not post here again. Thanks in advance. <a href="/wiki/User:MrOllie" class="mw-redirect" title="User:MrOllie">MrOllie</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie#top" title="User talk:MrOllie">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-MrOllie-20230808152000-Solaire_the_knight-20230808151700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:20, 8 August 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-MrOllie-20230808152000-Solaire_the_knight-20230808151700"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-MrOllie-20230808152000-Solaire_the_knight-20230808151700"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Kmart_2" data-mw-thread-id="h-Kmart_2-20230808192300"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Kmart_2-20230808192300"></span>Kmart<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Kmart_2-20230808192300"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-TheUSConservative-20230808192300-Kmart_2"></span>You keep saying things have been extensively discussed but it’s just you disagreeing and reverting anything you don’t like. There’s way more people who don’t agree with you than do and your attempt to use a talk page to validate a rule that you self imposed on this article isn’t exactly the most rational thing on earth. <a href="/wiki/User:TheUSConservative" title="User:TheUSConservative">TheUSConservative</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:TheUSConservative" title="User talk:TheUSConservative">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-TheUSConservative-20230808192300-Kmart_2" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:23, 8 August 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-TheUSConservative-20230808192300-Kmart_2"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-TheUSConservative-20230808192300-Kmart_2"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-MrOllie-20230808192700-TheUSConservative-20230808192300"></span>Not true, read further back on the talk page and its archives. There are many new users who come to that talk page ignorant of Wikipedia policy. That means policy should be explained and then followed, not ignored. Keep further discussion on the article talk page where it belongs and do not post here any further. Thanks in advance. <a href="/wiki/User:MrOllie" class="mw-redirect" title="User:MrOllie">MrOllie</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie#top" title="User talk:MrOllie">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-MrOllie-20230808192700-TheUSConservative-20230808192300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:27, 8 August 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-MrOllie-20230808192700-TheUSConservative-20230808192300"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-MrOllie-20230808192700-TheUSConservative-20230808192300"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Whack!" data-mw-thread-id="h-Whack!-20230808221100"><span id="Whack.21"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Whack!-20230808221100"></span>Whack!<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Whack!-20230808221100"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><b><code><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-RRR3MU5-20230808221100-Whack!"></span>{{<a href="/wiki/Template:Trout" title="Template:Trout">trout</a>}}</code></b> </p><p><br/> Dear MrOllie, </p><p>I'm an expert in my field of work and I also happen to be good friends with several seasoned Wikipedia admins irl. </p><p>Please stop gatekeeping the editing process and harassing other users with excessive and unwarranted reverts. This is the last friendly warning before I will have to initiate a lenghty and boring process, reporting you as a "disruptive user" or maybe even for "vandalism", which will probably end with your account and your IP getting suspended/banned. </p><p>Please think carefully about your reply and your next steps. Don't make life harder for yourself and for everybody else. We all don't have time to deal with these kind of discussions and you too for sure have better use for your own time and talents. </p><p>Thanks and best regards! </p><p><a href="/w/index.php?title=User:RRR3MU5&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:RRR3MU5 (page does not exist)">RRR3MU5</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:RRR3MU5" title="User talk:RRR3MU5">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-RRR3MU5-20230808221100-Whack!" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:11, 8 August 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-RRR3MU5-20230808221100-Whack!"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-RRR3MU5-20230808221100-Whack!"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-MrOllie-20230809012500-RRR3MU5-20230808221100"></span>I don't respond to empty threats, you should go ahead and initiate that process right now. <a href="/wiki/User:MrOllie" class="mw-redirect" title="User:MrOllie">MrOllie</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie#top" title="User talk:MrOllie">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-MrOllie-20230809012500-RRR3MU5-20230808221100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">01:25, 9 August 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-MrOllie-20230809012500-RRR3MU5-20230808221100"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-MrOllie-20230809012500-RRR3MU5-20230808221100"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-RRR3MU5-20230809021100-MrOllie-20230809012500"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img alt="Information icon" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/1/1d/Information_icon4.svg/25px-Information_icon4.svg.png" decoding="async" width="25" height="25" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/1/1d/Information_icon4.svg/38px-Information_icon4.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/1/1d/Information_icon4.svg/50px-Information_icon4.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="620" data-file-height="620"/></span></span> There is currently a discussion at <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/Incidents" title="Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents">Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents</a> regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Thank you. <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:RRR3MU5&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:RRR3MU5 (page does not exist)">RRR3MU5</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:RRR3MU5" title="User talk:RRR3MU5">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie/Archive_17#c-RRR3MU5-20230809021100-MrOllie-20230809012500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">02:11, 9 August 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-RRR3MU5-20230809021100-MrOllie-20230809012500"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-RRR3MU5-20230809021100-MrOllie-20230809012500"></span></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Acroterion-20230809022400-MrOllie-20230809012500"></span>And I've closed this at ANI. 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