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data-mw-thread-id="h-Fixing_this_template-20230717005900"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Fixing_this_template-20230717005900"></span>Fixing this template<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Fixing_this_template-20230717005900"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Template_talk:Wikipedia_policies_and_guidelines&action=edit&section=1" title="Edit section's source code: Fixing this template"><span>change source</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-2607:FB91:112:8C9C:C1F8:CC9C:4C8E:944D-20230717005900-Fixing_this_template"></span>Can somebody fix the categories for this template? Or decide on what's a policy and what's a guideline? For example, <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Signatures" title="Wikipedia:Signatures">WP:Signatures</a> is in the guideline section but it's a policy, and <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Protecting_children%27s_privacy" title="Wikipedia:Protecting children's privacy">WP:Protecting children's privacy</a> is in the policy section but it's a guideline. <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/2607:FB91:112:8C9C:C1F8:CC9C:4C8E:944D" title="Special:Contributions/2607:FB91:112:8C9C:C1F8:CC9C:4C8E:944D">2607:FB91:112:8C9C:C1F8:CC9C:4C8E:944D</a> (<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:2607:FB91:112:8C9C:C1F8:CC9C:4C8E:944D&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:2607:FB91:112:8C9C:C1F8:CC9C:4C8E:944D (not yet started)">talk</a>) <a href="https://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template_talk:Wikipedia_policies_and_guidelines#c-2607:FB91:112:8C9C:C1F8:CC9C:4C8E:944D-20230717005900-Fixing_this_template" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:59, 17 July 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-2607:FB91:112:8C9C:C1F8:CC9C:4C8E:944D-20230717005900-Fixing_this_template"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-2607:FB91:112:8C9C:C1F8:CC9C:4C8E:944D-20230717005900-Fixing_this_template"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Fr33kman-20230918032900-2607:FB91:112:8C9C:C1F8:CC9C:4C8E:944D-20230717005900"></span>The rules represent both policies and guideline. Policies are firm rules that we're agreed to whereas guidelines are not rules but are firm enough that w all agree. Some of the rules are "office rules" such as NPOV and anyone can edit, which are WMF rules we can not change locally. I agree that template is not ideal. I'll take a look at it. <i><b><a href="/wiki/User:Fr33kman" title="User:Fr33kman"><span style="color: darkgreen">fr33k</span></a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Fr33kman" title="User talk:Fr33kman"><span style="color: navy">man</span></a></b></i> <a href="https://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template_talk:Wikipedia_policies_and_guidelines#c-Fr33kman-20230918032900-2607:FB91:112:8C9C:C1F8:CC9C:4C8E:944D-20230717005900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">03:29, 18 September 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Fr33kman-20230918032900-2607:FB91:112:8C9C:C1F8:CC9C:4C8E:944D-20230717005900"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Fr33kman-20230918032900-2607:FB91:112:8C9C:C1F8:CC9C:4C8E:944D-20230717005900"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Fr33kman-20230918033200-Fr33kman-20230918032900"></span>Perhspd <b>bold</b> rules and not bold guidelines? <i><b><a href="/wiki/User:Fr33kman" title="User:Fr33kman"><span style="color: darkgreen">fr33k</span></a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Fr33kman" title="User talk:Fr33kman"><span style="color: navy">man</span></a></b></i> <a href="https://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template_talk:Wikipedia_policies_and_guidelines#c-Fr33kman-20230918033200-Fr33kman-20230918032900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">03:32, 18 September 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Fr33kman-20230918033200-Fr33kman-20230918032900"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Fr33kman-20230918033200-Fr33kman-20230918032900"></span></dd></dl></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Pure_Evil-20230918085600-2607:FB91:112:8C9C:C1F8:CC9C:4C8E:944D-20230717005900"></span>The child protection was pointing at the guideline on privacy and not the policy on protection. I changed its target. I also went through and sorted the layout so its pillar/rules first, Policies next and then guidelines. I left the WMF pages at the bottom of th list. The manual of Style items are guidelines but as the group is not named guidelines like the others, I tossed it to the end of the guideline section. I grouped them by class so we could color code that first block but I could not figure that part out.. that way we could easily show the three main groupings (Pillars, policy, guideline) - If someone could fix to coding for it.. <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Pure_Evil&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Pure Evil (not yet started)">Pure Evil</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Pure_Evil" title="User talk:Pure Evil">talk</a>) <a href="https://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template_talk:Wikipedia_policies_and_guidelines#c-Pure_Evil-20230918085600-2607:FB91:112:8C9C:C1F8:CC9C:4C8E:944D-20230717005900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">08:56, 18 September 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Pure_Evil-20230918085600-2607:FB91:112:8C9C:C1F8:CC9C:4C8E:944D-20230717005900"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Pure_Evil-20230918085600-2607:FB91:112:8C9C:C1F8:CC9C:4C8E:944D-20230717005900"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Kk.urban-20230918202500-Pure_Evil-20230918085600"></span>I think it's better now but the text is a bit too small and I don't think the borders are necessary. <a href="/wiki/User:Kk.urban" title="User:Kk.urban">Kk.urban</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Kk.urban" title="User talk:Kk.urban">talk</a>) <a href="https://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template_talk:Wikipedia_policies_and_guidelines#c-Kk.urban-20230918202500-Pure_Evil-20230918085600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:25, 18 September 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Kk.urban-20230918202500-Pure_Evil-20230918085600"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Kk.urban-20230918202500-Pure_Evil-20230918085600"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl>    </div><noscript><img src="https://login.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:CentralAutoLogin/start?useformat=desktop&type=1x1&usesul3=0" alt="" width="1" height="1" style="border: none; position: absolute;"></noscript> <div class="printfooter" data-nosnippet="">Retrieved from "<a dir="ltr" href="https://simple.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template_talk:Wikipedia_policies_and_guidelines&oldid=9077906">https://simple.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template_talk:Wikipedia_policies_and_guidelines&oldid=9077906</a>"</div></div> <div id="catlinks" class="catlinks catlinks-allhidden" data-mw="interface"></div> </div> </main> </div> <div class="mw-footer-container"> <footer id="footer" class="mw-footer" > <ul id="footer-info"> <li id="footer-info-lastmod"> This page was last changed on 18 September 2023, at 20:25.</li> <li id="footer-info-copyright">Text is available under the <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="//creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/4.0/">Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike License</a> and the <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Text_of_the_GNU_Free_Documentation_License" title="Wikipedia:Text of the GNU Free Documentation License">GFDL</a>; additional terms may apply. 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