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Novels</a></bdi></div></div></div> <div id="mw-content-text" class="mw-body-content"><div class="mw-content-ltr mw-parser-output" lang="en" dir="ltr"><table class="noprint plainlinks" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" style="box-sizing: border-box; line-height: 1.25em; float: right; clear: right; border: 1px solid maroon; border-collapse: collapse; margin: 0 0 1em 1em; background: lightsteelblue; font-size: 90%; width: 20em;"> <tbody><tr> <th style="background: lightsteelblue; padding: 5px; border-bottom: 1px solid black;"> <table cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" width="100%" style="background: transparent;"> <tbody><tr> <td><big><b><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Novels" title="Wikipedia:WikiProject Novels">WikiProject Novels</a></b></big> </td></tr></tbody></table> </th></tr> <tr> <td> <table cellpadding="3" cellspacing="0" width="100%" style="background: #FAFBF1;"> <tbody><tr style="background: silver;"> <th colspan="2" style="text-align:center; background: maroon; color: #71D7BA">The WikiProject </th></tr> <tr> <td><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Novels" title="Wikipedia:WikiProject Novels">Project page</a> </td> <td style="text-align: right;"><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Novels" title="Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Novels">talk</a> </td></tr> <tr> <td><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Novels/Members" title="Wikipedia:WikiProject Novels/Members">Members</a> </td> <td style="text-align: right;"><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Novels/Members" title="Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Novels/Members">talk</a> </td></tr> <tr> <td><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Novels/Guestbook" title="Wikipedia:WikiProject Novels/Guestbook">Guestbook</a> </td> <td style="text-align: right;"><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Novels/Guestbook" title="Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Novels/Guestbook">talk</a> </td></tr> <tr> <td><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Novels/Coordinators" title="Wikipedia:WikiProject Novels/Coordinators">Coordinators</a> </td> <td style="text-align: right;"><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Novels/Coordinators" title="Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Novels/Coordinators">talk</a> </td></tr> <tr> <td>→ <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Novels/Coordinators/Current-Recent_Elections" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:WikiProject Novels/Coordinators/Current-Recent Elections">Current or Recent Elections</a> </td> <td style="text-align: right;"><div class="editlink noprint plainlinksneverexpand"><a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Novels/Coordinators/October_2008&action=edit&section=new">+</a> <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Novels/Coordinators/Current-Recent_Elections" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Novels/Coordinators/Current-Recent Elections">talk</a></div> </td></tr> <tr> <td><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Novels/JobCentre" title="Wikipedia:WikiProject Novels/JobCentre">JobCentre</a> </td> <td style="text-align: right;"><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Novels/JobCentre" title="Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Novels/JobCentre">talk</a> </td></tr> <tr> <td><a href="/wiki/Template:WikiProject_Novels_announcements" title="Template:WikiProject Novels announcements">Announcements (template)</a> </td> <td style="text-align: right;"><a href="/wiki/Template_talk:WikiProject_Novels_announcements" title="Template talk:WikiProject Novels announcements">talk</a> </td></tr> <tr> <td><a href="/wiki/Portal:Literature" title="Portal:Literature">Literature Portal</a> </td> <td style="text-align: right;"><a href="/wiki/Portal_talk:Literature" title="Portal talk:Literature">talk</a> </td></tr> <tr> <th colspan="2" style="text-align:center; background: maroon; color: #71D7B1">Article information </th></tr> <tr> <td><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Novels/Popular_pages" title="Wikipedia:WikiProject Novels/Popular pages">Popular Pages</a> </td> <td style="text-align: right;"><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Novels/Popular_pages" title="Wikipedia:WikiProject Novels/Popular pages">talk</a> </td></tr> <tr> <td><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Novels/Resources" title="Wikipedia:WikiProject Novels/Resources">Resources</a> </td> <td style="text-align: right;"><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Novels/Resources" title="Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Novels/Resources">talk</a> </td></tr> <tr> <td><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Novels/Style_guidelines" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:WikiProject Novels/Style guidelines">Style guidelines</a> </td> <td style="text-align: right;"><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Novels/Style_guidelines" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Novels/Style guidelines">talk</a> </td></tr> <tr> <td>→ <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Novels/ArticleTemplate" title="Wikipedia:WikiProject Novels/ArticleTemplate">Article (pattern template)</a> </td> <td style="text-align: right;"><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Novels/ArticleTemplate" title="Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Novels/ArticleTemplate">talk</a> </td></tr> <tr> <td>→ <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Novels/CharacterArticleTemplate" title="Wikipedia:WikiProject Novels/CharacterArticleTemplate">Char. Article (pattern template)</a> </td> <td style="text-align: right;"><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Novels/CharacterArticleTemplate" title="Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Novels/CharacterArticleTemplate">talk</a> </td></tr> <tr> <td>→ <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Novels/InfoboxCode" title="Wikipedia:WikiProject Novels/InfoboxCode">Book infobox (pattern)</a> </td> <td style="text-align: right;"><a class="mw-selflink selflink">talk</a> </td></tr> <tr> <td>→ <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Novels/ShortStoryInfoboxCode" title="Wikipedia:WikiProject Novels/ShortStoryInfoboxCode">Short Story infobox (pattern)</a> </td> <td style="text-align: right;"><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Novels/ShortStoryInfoboxCode" title="Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Novels/ShortStoryInfoboxCode">talk</a> </td></tr> <tr> <td>→ <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Novels/NovelSeriesInfoboxCode" title="Wikipedia:WikiProject Novels/NovelSeriesInfoboxCode">NovelSeries infobox (pattern)</a> </td> <td style="text-align: right;"><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Novels/NovelSeriesInfoboxCode" title="Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Novels/NovelSeriesInfoboxCode">talk</a> </td></tr> <tr> <td>→ <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Novels/CharacterInfoboxCode" title="Wikipedia:WikiProject Novels/CharacterInfoboxCode">Character infobox (pattern)</a> </td> <td style="text-align: right;"><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Novels/CharacterInfoboxCode" title="Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Novels/CharacterInfoboxCode">talk</a> </td></tr> </tbody></table> <table class="mw-collapsible mw-collapsed" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="0" width="100%" style="background: #FAFBF1;"> <tbody><tr style="background: maroon;"> <th colspan="2" style="text-align: left; border-top: 1px solid black; color:#DADAF2;">Current discussions </th></tr> <tr> <td><div class="editlink noprint plainlinksneverexpand"><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Novels/GeneralForum" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:WikiProject Novels/GeneralForum">General discussion forum</a> (<a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:WikiProject_Novels/GeneralForum&action=edit&section=new">+</a>)</div> </td> <td style="text-align: right;"><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Novels/GeneralForum" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Novels/GeneralForum">talk</a> </td></tr> <tr> <td><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Novels/Novel_categorization" title="Wikipedia:WikiProject Novels/Novel categorization">Novel categorization</a> </td> <td style="text-align: right;"><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Novels/Novel_categorization" title="Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Novels/Novel categorization">talk</a> </td></tr> </tbody></table> <table class="mw-collapsible mw-collapsed" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="0" width="100%" style="background: #FAFBF1;"> <tbody><tr style="background: maroon;"> <th colspan="2" style="text-align: left; border-top: 1px solid black; color:#DADAF2;">Work in progress </th></tr> <tr> <td><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Novels/Worklist" title="Wikipedia:WikiProject Novels/Worklist">Main work list</a> </td> <td style="text-align: right;"><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Novels/Worklist" title="Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Novels/Worklist">talk</a> </td></tr> <tr> <td><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Novels/Maintenance" title="Wikipedia:WikiProject Novels/Maintenance">Maintenance lists</a> </td> <td style="text-align: right;"><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Novels/Maintenance" title="Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Novels/Maintenance">talk</a> </td></tr> <tr> <td><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Novels/Disputed_novel_articles" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:WikiProject Novels/Disputed novel articles">Disputed novel articles</a> </td> <td style="text-align: right;"><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Novels/Disputed_novel_articles" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Novels/Disputed novel articles">talk</a> </td></tr> <tr> <td><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Novels/Disputed_book_cover_images" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:WikiProject Novels/Disputed book cover images">Disputed book cover images</a> </td> <td style="text-align: right;"><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Novels/Disputed_book_cover_images" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Novels/Disputed book cover images">talk</a> </td></tr> <tr> <td><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Novels/ArticlesNeeded" title="Wikipedia:WikiProject Novels/ArticlesNeeded">Articles needed</a> </td> <td style="text-align: right;"><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Novels/ArticlesNeeded" title="Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Novels/ArticlesNeeded">talk</a> </td></tr> <tr> <td><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Novels/InfoboxNeeded" title="Wikipedia:WikiProject Novels/InfoboxNeeded">Infobox needed</a> </td> <td style="text-align: right;"><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Novels/InfoboxNeeded" title="Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Novels/InfoboxNeeded">talk</a> </td></tr> <tr> <td><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Novels/InfoboxIncomplete" title="Wikipedia:WikiProject Novels/InfoboxIncomplete">Infobox Incomplete</a> </td> <td style="text-align: right;"><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Novels/InfoboxIncomplete" title="Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Novels/InfoboxIncomplete">talk</a> </td></tr> <tr> <td><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Novels/NewArticles" title="Wikipedia:WikiProject Novels/NewArticles">New articles</a> </td> <td style="text-align: right;"><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Novels/NewArticles" title="Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Novels/NewArticles">talk</a> </td></tr> </tbody></table> <table class="mw-collapsible mw-collapsed" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="0" width="100%" style="background: #FAFBF1;"> <tbody><tr style="background: maroon;"> <th colspan="2" style="text-align: left; border-top: 1px solid black; color:#DADAF2;">Departments </th></tr> <tr> <td><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Novels/Assessment" title="Wikipedia:WikiProject Novels/Assessment">Assessment</a> </td> <td style="text-align: right;"><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Novels/Assessment" title="Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Novels/Assessment">talk</a> </td></tr> <tr> <td>→ <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Novels/Assessment/Top-important" title="Wikipedia:WikiProject Novels/Assessment/Top-important">Assessment Top priority</a> </td> <td style="text-align: right;"><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Novels/Assessment/Top-important" title="Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Novels/Assessment/Top-important">talk</a> </td></tr> <tr> <td><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Novels/Collaboration" title="Wikipedia:WikiProject Novels/Collaboration">Collaboration</a> </td> <td style="text-align: right;"><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Novels/Collaboration" title="Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Novels/Collaboration">talk</a> </td></tr> <tr> <td><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Novels/Outreach" title="Wikipedia:WikiProject Novels/Outreach">Outreach</a> </td> <td style="text-align: right;"><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Novels/Outreach" title="Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Novels/Outreach">talk</a> </td></tr> <tr> <td><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Novels/Peer_review" title="Wikipedia:WikiProject Novels/Peer review">Peer review</a> </td> <td style="text-align: right;"><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Novels/Peer_review" title="Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Novels/Peer review">talk</a> </td></tr> </tbody></table> <table class="mw-collapsible mw-collapsed" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="0" width="100%" style="background: #FAFBF1;"> <tbody><tr style="background: maroon;"> <th colspan="2" style="text-align: left; border-top: 1px solid black; color:#DADAF2;">Task forces </th></tr> <tr> <td><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Novels/19th_century_task_force" title="Wikipedia:WikiProject Novels/19th century task force">19th century task force</a> </td> <td style="text-align: right;"><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Novels/19th_century_task_force" title="Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Novels/19th century task force">talk</a> </td></tr> <tr> <td><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Novels/39_Clues_Task_Force" title="Wikipedia:WikiProject Novels/39 Clues Task Force">39 Clues task force</a> </td> <td style="text-align: right;"><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Novels/39_Clues_Task_Force" title="Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Novels/39 Clues Task Force">talk</a> </td></tr> <tr> <td><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Novels/Australian_task_force" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:WikiProject Novels/Australian task force">Australian task force</a> </td> <td style="text-align: right;"><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Novels/Australian_task_force" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Novels/Australian task force">talk</a> </td></tr> <tr> <td><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Children%27s_literature/CHERUB_and_Henderson%27s_Boys_task_force" title="Wikipedia:WikiProject Children's literature/CHERUB and Henderson's Boys task force">CHERUB and Henderson's Boys task force</a> </td> <td style="text-align: right;"><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Children%27s_literature/CHERUB_and_Henderson%27s_Boys_task_force" title="Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Children's literature/CHERUB and Henderson's Boys task force">talk</a> </td></tr> <tr> <td><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Novels/Chronicles_of_Narnia_task_force" title="Wikipedia:WikiProject Novels/Chronicles of Narnia task force">Chronicles of Narnia task force</a> </td> <td style="text-align: right;"><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Novels/Chronicles_of_Narnia_task_force" title="Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Novels/Chronicles of Narnia task force">talk</a> </td></tr> <tr> <td><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Novels/Crime_task_force" title="Wikipedia:WikiProject Novels/Crime task force">Crime task force</a> </td> <td style="text-align: right;"><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Novels/Crime_task_force" title="Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Novels/Crime task force">talk</a> </td></tr> <tr> <td><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Novels/Fantasy_task_force" title="Wikipedia:WikiProject Novels/Fantasy task force">Fantasy task force</a> </td> <td style="text-align: right;"><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Novels/Fantasy_task_force" title="Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Novels/Fantasy task force">talk</a> </td></tr> <tr> <td><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Novels/Harry_Potter_task_force" title="Wikipedia:WikiProject Novels/Harry Potter task force">Harry Potter task force</a> </td> <td style="text-align: right;"><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Novels/Harry_Potter_task_force" title="Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Novels/Harry Potter task force">talk</a> </td></tr> <tr> <td><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Novels/His_Dark_Materials_task_force" title="Wikipedia:WikiProject Novels/His Dark Materials task force">His Dark Materials task force</a> </td> <td style="text-align: right;"><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Novels/His_Dark_Materials_task_force" title="Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Novels/His Dark Materials task force">talk</a> </td></tr> <tr> <td><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Novels/Lemony_Snicket_task_force" title="Wikipedia:WikiProject Novels/Lemony Snicket task force">Lemony Snicket task force</a> </td> <td style="text-align: right;"><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Novels/Lemony_Snicket_task_force" title="Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Novels/Lemony Snicket task force">talk</a> </td></tr> <tr> <td><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Novels/Military_fiction_task_force" title="Wikipedia:WikiProject Novels/Military fiction task force">Military fiction task force</a> </td> <td style="text-align: right;"><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Novels/Military_fiction_task_force" title="Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Novels/Military fiction task force">talk</a> </td></tr> <tr> <td> <dl><dd><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Military_history/Napoleonic_era_task_force/Napoleonic_fiction" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:WikiProject Military history/Napoleonic era task force/Napoleonic fiction">Napoleonic fiction work group</a> (military)</dd></dl> </td> <td style="text-align: right;"><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Military_history/Napoleonic_era_task_force/Napoleonic_fiction" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Military history/Napoleonic era task force/Napoleonic fiction">talk</a> </td></tr> <tr> <td><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Novels/Rick_Riordan_Task_Force" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:WikiProject Novels/Rick Riordan Task Force">Rick Riordan task force</a> </td> <td style="text-align: right;"><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Novels/Rick_Riordan_Task_Force" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Novels/Rick Riordan Task Force">talk</a> </td></tr> <tr> <td><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Novels/Science_fiction_task_force" title="Wikipedia:WikiProject Novels/Science fiction task force">Science fiction task force</a> </td> <td style="text-align: right;"><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Novels/Science_fiction_task_force" title="Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Novels/Science fiction task force">talk</a> </td></tr> <tr> <td><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Novels/Shannara_task_force" title="Wikipedia:WikiProject Novels/Shannara task force">Shannara task force</a> </td> <td style="text-align: right;"><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Novels/Shannara_task_force" title="Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Novels/Shannara task force">talk</a> </td></tr> <tr> <td><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Novels/Short_story_task_force" title="Wikipedia:WikiProject Novels/Short story task force">Short story task force</a> </td> <td style="text-align: right;"><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Novels/Short_story_task_force" title="Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Novels/Short story task force">talk</a> </td></tr> <tr> <td><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Novels/Sword_of_Truth_task_force" title="Wikipedia:WikiProject Novels/Sword of Truth task force">Sword of Truth task force</a> </td> <td style="text-align: right;"><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Novels/Sword_of_Truth_task_force" title="Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Novels/Sword of Truth task force">talk</a> </td></tr> <tr> <td><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Novels/Twilight_task_force" title="Wikipedia:WikiProject Novels/Twilight task force">Twilight task force</a> </td> <td style="text-align: right;"><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Novels/Twilight_task_force" title="Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Novels/Twilight task force">talk</a> </td></tr> 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It is to be used as a starting block for new <a href="/wiki/Template:Infobox_book" title="Template:Infobox book">Template:Infobox book</a> inclusions and as aid to restyle existing inclusions. </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Example" data-mw-thread-id="h-Example"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Example"></span>Example<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Example"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Novels/InfoboxCode&action=edit&section=2" title="Edit section: Example"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span></div> <p>The layout for this infobox can be seen on the <i><a href="/wiki/Master_and_Commander" title="Master and Commander">Master and Commander</a></i> page (note that it may differ in details from the state shown here due to independent editing). </p> <pre style="overflow:auto">{{Infobox book | name = Master and Commander | image = NonFreeImageRemoved.svg | caption = Cover by Geoff Hunt for ''Master and Commander'' | author = [[Patrick O'Brian]] | illustrator = | cover_artist = Geoff Hunt | country = [[United Kingdom]] | language = [[English language|English]] | series = [[Aubrey-Maturin series]] | genre = [[Historical novel]] | publisher = [[Harper Collins]] (UK) | release_date = [[1 September]] [[1970]] | media_type = Print ([[Hardcover]] & [[Paperback]]) & Audio Book ([[Compact audio cassette|Cassette]], [[Compact Disc|CD]]) | pages = 352 pp (2000s UK hardcover & paperback) | isbn = | preceded_by = | followed_by = [[Post Captain (novel)|]] }} </pre> <style data-mw-deduplicate="TemplateStyles:r1257001546">.mw-parser-output .infobox-subbox{padding:0;border:none;margin:-3px;width:auto;min-width:100%;font-size:100%;clear:none;float:none;background-color:transparent}.mw-parser-output .infobox-3cols-child{margin:auto}.mw-parser-output .infobox .navbar{font-size:100%}@media screen{html.skin-theme-clientpref-night .mw-parser-output .infobox-full-data:not(.notheme)>div:not(.notheme)[style]{background:#1f1f23!important;color:#f8f9fa}}@media screen and (prefers-color-scheme:dark){html.skin-theme-clientpref-os .mw-parser-output .infobox-full-data:not(.notheme) div:not(.notheme){background:#1f1f23!important;color:#f8f9fa}}@media(min-width:640px){body.skin--responsive .mw-parser-output .infobox-table{display:table!important}body.skin--responsive .mw-parser-output .infobox-table>caption{display:table-caption!important}body.skin--responsive .mw-parser-output .infobox-table>tbody{display:table-row-group}body.skin--responsive .mw-parser-output .infobox-table tr{display:table-row!important}body.skin--responsive .mw-parser-output .infobox-table th,body.skin--responsive .mw-parser-output .infobox-table td{padding-left:inherit;padding-right:inherit}}</style><table class="infobox vcard"><caption class="infobox-title" style="font-size:125%; font-style:italic; padding-bottom:0.2em;">Master and Commander <span class="Z3988" title="ctx_ver=Z39.88-2004&rft_val_fmt=info%3Aofi%2Ffmt%3Akev%3Amtx%3Abook&rft.genre=book&rft.btitle=Master+and+Commander&rft.author=%5B%5BPatrick+O%27Brian%5D%5D&rft.date=%5B%5B1+September%5D%5D+%5B%5B1970%5D%5D&rft.pub=%5B%5BHarper+Collins%5D%5D+%28UK%29&rft.place=%5B%5BUnited+Kingdom%5D%5D&rft.pages=352+pp+%282000s+UK+hardcover+%26+paperback%29&rft.series=%5B%5BAubrey-Maturin+series%5D%5D"></span></caption><tbody><tr><td colspan="2" class="infobox-image"><span class="mw-default-size" typeof="mw:File/Frameless"><a href="/wiki/File:NonFreeImageRemoved.svg" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/ee/NonFreeImageRemoved.svg/220px-NonFreeImageRemoved.svg.png" decoding="async" width="220" height="242" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/ee/NonFreeImageRemoved.svg/330px-NonFreeImageRemoved.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/ee/NonFreeImageRemoved.svg/440px-NonFreeImageRemoved.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="200" data-file-height="220"/></a></span><div class="infobox-caption">Cover by Geoff Hunt for <i>Master and Commander</i></div></td></tr><tr><th scope="row" class="infobox-label">Author</th><td class="infobox-data"><a href="/wiki/Patrick_O%27Brian" title="Patrick O'Brian">Patrick O'Brian</a></td></tr><tr><th scope="row" class="infobox-label">Cover artist</th><td class="infobox-data">Geoff Hunt</td></tr><tr><th scope="row" class="infobox-label">Language</th><td class="infobox-data"><a href="/wiki/English_language" title="English language">English</a></td></tr><tr><th scope="row" class="infobox-label">Series</th><td class="infobox-data"><a href="/wiki/Aubrey-Maturin_series" class="mw-redirect" title="Aubrey-Maturin series">Aubrey-Maturin series</a></td></tr><tr><th scope="row" class="infobox-label">Genre</th><td class="infobox-data"><a href="/wiki/Historical_novel" class="mw-redirect" title="Historical novel">Historical novel</a></td></tr><tr><th scope="row" class="infobox-label">Publisher</th><td class="infobox-data"><a href="/wiki/Harper_Collins" class="mw-redirect" title="Harper Collins">Harper Collins</a> (UK)</td></tr><tr><th scope="row" class="infobox-label"><div style="display: inline-block; line-height: 1.2em; padding: .1em 0;">Publication date</div></th><td class="infobox-data"><a href="/wiki/1_September" class="mw-redirect" title="1 September">1 September</a> <a href="/wiki/1970" title="1970">1970</a></td></tr><tr><th scope="row" class="infobox-label">Publication place</th><td class="infobox-data"><a href="/wiki/United_Kingdom" title="United Kingdom">United Kingdom</a></td></tr><tr><th scope="row" class="infobox-label">Media type</th><td class="infobox-data">Print (<a href="/wiki/Hardcover" title="Hardcover">Hardcover</a> & <a href="/wiki/Paperback" title="Paperback">Paperback</a>) & Audio Book (<a href="/wiki/Compact_audio_cassette" class="mw-redirect" title="Compact audio cassette">Cassette</a>, <a href="/wiki/Compact_Disc" class="mw-redirect" title="Compact Disc">CD</a>)</td></tr><tr><th scope="row" class="infobox-label">Pages</th><td class="infobox-data">352 pp (2000s UK hardcover & paperback)</td></tr><tr><th scope="row" class="infobox-label">Followed by</th><td class="infobox-data"><i><a href="/wiki/Post_Captain_(novel)" title="Post Captain (novel)">Post Captain</a> </i></td></tr></tbody></table> <p>The code above produces the template seen on the right. </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Discussion_of_the_Infobox_Book_code_pattern_template" data-mw-thread-id="h-Discussion_of_the_Infobox_Book_code_pattern_template-2006-04-12T15:53:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Discussion_of_the_Infobox_Book_code_pattern_template-2006-04-12T15:53:00.000Z"></span>Discussion of the Infobox Book code pattern template<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Discussion_of_the_Infobox_Book_code_pattern_template-2006-04-12T15:53:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Novels/InfoboxCode&action=edit&section=3" title="Edit section: Discussion of the Infobox Book code pattern template"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-MikeBriggs-2006-04-12T15:53:00.000Z-Discussion_of_the_Infobox_Book_code_pattern_template"></span>Edit out the example if you think it isn't needed. Figured it would be quite helpful for Novel project people to see an example of the Novel project style. Note: Actual book uses Hardback, and only has the year for release date. Example changed to fit complete format.<a href="/wiki/User:MikeBriggs" title="User:MikeBriggs">MikeBriggs</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Novels/InfoboxCode#c-MikeBriggs-2006-04-12T15:53:00.000Z-Discussion_of_the_Infobox_Book_code_pattern_template" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:53, 12 April 2006 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-MikeBriggs-2006-04-12T15:53:00.000Z-Discussion_of_the_Infobox_Book_code_pattern_template"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-MikeBriggs-2006-04-12T15:53:00.000Z-Discussion_of_the_Infobox_Book_code_pattern_template"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Media_type" data-mw-thread-id="h-Media_type-2006-07-10T13:06:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Media_type-2006-07-10T13:06:00.000Z"></span>Media type<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Media_type-2006-07-10T13:06:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Novels/InfoboxCode&action=edit&section=4" title="Edit section: Media type"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Grey_Shadow-2006-07-10T13:06:00.000Z-Media_type"></span>When we list the media type, should we be listing all the versions that are out, or the 1st edition type? Currently I'm only listing hardcover and paperback for most novels and not including ebook types. Are we only trying to list first edition details or something more? <a href="/wiki/User:Grey_Shadow" title="User:Grey Shadow">Grey Shadow</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Novels/InfoboxCode#c-Grey_Shadow-2006-07-10T13:06:00.000Z-Media_type" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:06, 10 July 2006 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Grey_Shadow-2006-07-10T13:06:00.000Z-Media_type"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Grey_Shadow-2006-07-10T13:06:00.000Z-Media_type"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Kevinalewis-2006-09-13T08:22:00.000Z-Grey_Shadow-2006-07-10T13:06:00.000Z"></span>I would say, All (or at least all major) and that is what I have been adding. :: <a href="/wiki/User:Kevinalewis" title="User:Kevinalewis"><span style="color: #33C;">Kevinalewis</span></a> : <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Kevinalewis" title="User talk:Kevinalewis"><span style="color:#CC9900"><sup>(Talk Page)</sup></span></a>/<a href="/wiki/User:Kevinalewis/Desk" title="User:Kevinalewis/Desk"><span style="color:#CC9900"><sub>(Desk)</sub></span></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Novels/InfoboxCode#c-Kevinalewis-2006-09-13T08:22:00.000Z-Grey_Shadow-2006-07-10T13:06:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">08:22, 13 September 2006 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Kevinalewis-2006-09-13T08:22:00.000Z-Grey_Shadow-2006-07-10T13:06:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Kevinalewis-2006-09-13T08:22:00.000Z-Grey_Shadow-2006-07-10T13:06:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Mandatory_use_of_the_problematic_"fair_use"_material" data-mw-thread-id="h-Mandatory_use_of_the_problematic_"fair_use"_material-2006-09-13T07:59:00.000Z"><span id="Mandatory_use_of_the_problematic_.22fair_use.22_material"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Mandatory_use_of_the_problematic_"fair_use"_material-2006-09-13T07:59:00.000Z"></span>Mandatory use of the problematic "fair use" material<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Mandatory_use_of_the_problematic_"fair_use"_material-2006-09-13T07:59:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Novels/InfoboxCode&action=edit&section=5" title="Edit section: Mandatory use of the problematic "fair use" material"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Audriusa-2006-09-13T07:59:00.000Z-Mandatory_use_of_the_problematic_"fair_use"_material"></span>The infobox includes the requirement to include cover image which almost never has the appropriate license. The cover images are marked as a "fair use". While it may be possible to tolerate this, probably we should not <b>enforce</b> uploading and using such images, as the author may decide, at any time, that the use is not so fair. In some cases, the supporters of the free information have designed they own alternative illustrations, but the legally problematic material was returned back motivating that the "infobox is incomplete", and the proprietary book image is the only image having right to be in the info box. Mind that some portals like German do not accept the "fair use" at all. I suggest at least clearly state that the book image is optional and can be replaced by the appropriate alternative illustration, if available. <a href="/wiki/User:Audriusa" title="User:Audriusa">Audriusa</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Novels/InfoboxCode#c-Audriusa-2006-09-13T07:59:00.000Z-Mandatory_use_of_the_problematic_"fair_use"_material" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">07:59, 13 September 2006 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Audriusa-2006-09-13T07:59:00.000Z-Mandatory_use_of_the_problematic_"fair_use"_material"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Audriusa-2006-09-13T07:59:00.000Z-Mandatory_use_of_the_problematic_"fair_use"_material"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Kevinalewis-2006-09-13T08:22:00.000Z-Audriusa-2006-09-13T07:59:00.000Z"></span>I will change the documentation to respond to the spirit of this! :: <a href="/wiki/User:Kevinalewis" title="User:Kevinalewis"><span style="color: #33C;">Kevinalewis</span></a> : <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Kevinalewis" title="User talk:Kevinalewis"><span style="color:#CC9900"><sup>(Talk Page)</sup></span></a>/<a href="/wiki/User:Kevinalewis/Desk" title="User:Kevinalewis/Desk"><span style="color:#CC9900"><sub>(Desk)</sub></span></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Novels/InfoboxCode#c-Kevinalewis-2006-09-13T08:22:00.000Z-Audriusa-2006-09-13T07:59:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">08:22, 13 September 2006 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Kevinalewis-2006-09-13T08:22:00.000Z-Audriusa-2006-09-13T07:59:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Kevinalewis-2006-09-13T08:22:00.000Z-Audriusa-2006-09-13T07:59:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Country?" data-mw-thread-id="h-Country?-2006-09-15T16:44:00.000Z"><span id="Country.3F"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Country?-2006-09-15T16:44:00.000Z"></span>Country?<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Country?-2006-09-15T16:44:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Novels/InfoboxCode&action=edit&section=6" title="Edit section: Country?"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Victoriagirl-2006-09-15T16:44:00.000Z-Country?"></span>I've encountered some confusion regarding the country designation in the infobox. Some contributors believe it is supposed to indicate the nationality of the author, while others think it is meant to reflect the country in which the work was first published. An example would be, <i>Generation X</i>, a book by a Canadian author (Douglas Coupland), published in the United States (by St. Martin's Press- indeed, there has never been a Canadian edition of the novel). I've not been able to uncover any discussion about this matter. Any assistance would be appreciated. <a href="/wiki/User:Victoriagirl" title="User:Victoriagirl">Victoriagirl</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Novels/InfoboxCode#c-Victoriagirl-2006-09-15T16:44:00.000Z-Country?" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:44, 15 September 2006 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Victoriagirl-2006-09-15T16:44:00.000Z-Country?"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Victoriagirl-2006-09-15T16:44:00.000Z-Country?"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Kevinalewis-2006-09-18T09:02:00.000Z-Victoriagirl-2006-09-15T16:44:00.000Z"></span>Good point, I would belive this relates to "where" the novel comes from. I.e. the nationality of the author being foremost in that. However if there is any doubt about this issue the nation of 1st publication would suit. However this does need to be discussed and clarified. :: <a href="/wiki/User:Kevinalewis" title="User:Kevinalewis"><span style="color: #33C;">Kevinalewis</span></a> : <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Kevinalewis" title="User talk:Kevinalewis"><span style="color:#CC9900"><sup>(Talk Page)</sup></span></a>/<a href="/wiki/User:Kevinalewis/Desk" title="User:Kevinalewis/Desk"><span style="color:#CC9900"><sub>(Desk)</sub></span></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Novels/InfoboxCode#c-Kevinalewis-2006-09-18T09:02:00.000Z-Victoriagirl-2006-09-15T16:44:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:02, 18 September 2006 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Kevinalewis-2006-09-18T09:02:00.000Z-Victoriagirl-2006-09-15T16:44:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Kevinalewis-2006-09-18T09:02:00.000Z-Victoriagirl-2006-09-15T16:44:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Kablammo-2007-09-06T01:31:00.000Z-Kevinalewis-2006-09-18T09:02:00.000Z"></span>This has arisen in <a href="/wiki/Ulysses_(novel)" title="Ulysses (novel)">Ulysses (novel)</a>, authored by <a href="/wiki/James_Joyce" title="James Joyce">James Joyce</a>, a true son of <a href="/wiki/Eire" class="mw-redirect" title="Eire">the Auld Sod</a>, but first published in France. France is what was decided on in <a href="/wiki/Talk:Ulysses_(novel)#Irish_Free_State.3F" title="Talk:Ulysses (novel)">discussion</a>, but it periodically is changed to Ireland for this most Irish of authors. The <a href="/wiki/Template:Infobox_Book" class="mw-redirect" title="Template:Infobox Book">instructions</a> support use of France as the country of publication. <a href="/wiki/User:Kablammo" class="mw-redirect" title="User:Kablammo">Kablammo</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Novels/InfoboxCode#c-Kablammo-2007-09-06T01:31:00.000Z-Kevinalewis-2006-09-18T09:02:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">01:31, 6 September 2007 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Kablammo-2007-09-06T01:31:00.000Z-Kevinalewis-2006-09-18T09:02:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Kablammo-2007-09-06T01:31:00.000Z-Kevinalewis-2006-09-18T09:02:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Preceded_by_and_Followed_by_(again)" data-mw-thread-id="h-Preceded_by_and_Followed_by_(again)-2008-06-22T15:28:00.000Z"><span id="Preceded_by_and_Followed_by_.28again.29"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Preceded_by_and_Followed_by_(again)-2008-06-22T15:28:00.000Z"></span>Preceded_by and Followed_by (again)<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Preceded_by_and_Followed_by_(again)-2008-06-22T15:28:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Novels/InfoboxCode&action=edit&section=7" title="Edit section: Preceded_by and Followed_by (again)"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Elizabennet-2008-06-22T15:28:00.000Z-Preceded_by_and_Followed_by_(again)"></span>I've noticed that a great deal of infoboxes put novels by chronological order of publication in these fields, rather than by series. I was under the impression that these were supposed to be by series (that's what it says on the template page, at any rate, and that's what I thought we concluded <a href="/wiki/Template_talk:Infobox_Book/Archive_2#Preceded_and_followed_by_fields" class="mw-redirect" title="Template talk:Infobox Book/Archive 2">in this archived discussion</a> - but then, I was involved in those, so maybe I just acted on my own (I really hope not). So... am I right or should I stop changing these boxes so that they're by series? A lot of <a href="/wiki/Robert_A._Heinlein" title="Robert A. Heinlein">Robert A. Heinlein</a>'s books seem to be following this chronological pattern, or at least the ones I've seen have been doing so. If I am right, then perhaps we should include a note about it here, since it seems to be a point of some confusion (and I guess people aren't looking at the actual template's notes, possibly because this version is much easier to find and use). -<a href="/wiki/User:Elizabennet" title="User:Elizabennet">Elizabennet</a> | <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Elizabennet" title="User talk:Elizabennet">talk</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Novels/InfoboxCode#c-Elizabennet-2008-06-22T15:28:00.000Z-Preceded_by_and_Followed_by_(again)" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:28, 22 June 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Elizabennet-2008-06-22T15:28:00.000Z-Preceded_by_and_Followed_by_(again)"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Elizabennet-2008-06-22T15:28:00.000Z-Preceded_by_and_Followed_by_(again)"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Elizabennet-2008-06-22T15:28:00.000Z-Elizabennet-2008-06-22T15:28:00.000Z"></span>Actually, on that note, perhaps we should include an explanation of all the fields here (or under the blank template on the WikiProject Novels/InfoboxCode page). Thoughts? -<a href="/wiki/User:Elizabennet" title="User:Elizabennet">Elizabennet</a> | <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Elizabennet" title="User talk:Elizabennet">talk</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Novels/InfoboxCode#c-Elizabennet-2008-06-22T15:28:00.000Z-Elizabennet-2008-06-22T15:28:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:28, 22 June 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Elizabennet-2008-06-22T15:28:00.000Z-Elizabennet-2008-06-22T15:28:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Elizabennet-2008-06-22T15:28:00.000Z-Elizabennet-2008-06-22T15:28:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Kevinalewis-2009-07-07T13:35:00.000Z-Elizabennet-2008-06-22T15:28:00.000Z"></span>Try mocking something up - and yes your recollection is correct and yes you should be changing to fit that agreement. We just need that agreement to part of the full documentation. :: <a href="/wiki/User:Kevinalewis" title="User:Kevinalewis"><span style="color: #33C;">Kevinalewis</span></a> : <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Kevinalewis" title="User talk:Kevinalewis"><sup style="color:#C90">(Talk Page)</sup></a>/<a href="/wiki/User:Kevinalewis/Desk" title="User:Kevinalewis/Desk"><sub style="color:#C90">(Desk)</sub></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Novels/InfoboxCode#c-Kevinalewis-2009-07-07T13:35:00.000Z-Elizabennet-2008-06-22T15:28:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:35, 7 July 2009 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Kevinalewis-2009-07-07T13:35:00.000Z-Elizabennet-2008-06-22T15:28:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Kevinalewis-2009-07-07T13:35:00.000Z-Elizabennet-2008-06-22T15:28:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="ISBN_in_the_Infobox" data-mw-thread-id="h-ISBN_in_the_Infobox-2008-12-08T21:41:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-ISBN_in_the_Infobox-2008-12-08T21:41:00.000Z"></span>ISBN in the Infobox<span data-mw-comment-end="h-ISBN_in_the_Infobox-2008-12-08T21:41:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Novels/InfoboxCode&action=edit&section=8" title="Edit section: ISBN in the Infobox"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-KF-2008-12-08T21:41:00.000Z-ISBN_in_the_Infobox"></span>I've got two separate queries. </p><p>(1) What's the point of having an ISBN for <i><a href="/wiki/The_Great_Gatsby" title="The Great Gatsby">The Great Gatsby</a></i> (and maybe other works as well?) which is not even listed in the Library of Congress catalogue? (Or is it just a typo in this particular case?) </p><p>(2) Recently, the ISBN part seems to have changed. <a href="/wiki/The_Believers_(novel)" title="The Believers (novel)"><i>The Believers</i> (novel)</a> and <a href="/wiki/Portobello_(novel)" title="Portobello (novel)"><i>Portobello</i> (novel)</a> are just two examples: an ungainly chunk of text appears obviously wherever more than just one ISBN is referenced (say, hardcover and trade paperback) which includes [[ and other things and also part of the text which should remain hidden. What's wrong? Has anything been changed? <a href="/wiki/User:KF" title="User:KF"><span style="color:#006600"><K</span></a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:KF" title="User talk:KF"><span style="color:#006600">F></span></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Novels/InfoboxCode#c-KF-2008-12-08T21:41:00.000Z-ISBN_in_the_Infobox" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:41, 8 December 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-KF-2008-12-08T21:41:00.000Z-ISBN_in_the_Infobox"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-KF-2008-12-08T21:41:00.000Z-ISBN_in_the_Infobox"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Publication_date_and_series" data-mw-thread-id="h-Publication_date_and_series-2015-03-22T13:20:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Publication_date_and_series-2015-03-22T13:20:00.000Z"></span>Publication date and series<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Publication_date_and_series-2015-03-22T13:20:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Novels/InfoboxCode&action=edit&section=9" title="Edit section: Publication date and series"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Rwood128-2015-03-22T13:20:00.000Z-Publication_date_and_series"></span>The use of "date" suggests that the day and month should be included. Generally, however, just the year is given (I tend to substitute "published" here). There is also confusion about the use of the word "series", because some editors erroneously interpret this to include <a href="/wiki/Serialization" title="Serialization">serialization</a>. See Talk for <a href="/wiki/Great_Expectations" title="Great Expectations">Great Expectations</a><a class="external autonumber" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Great_Expectations#Series_and_serial">[1]</a>. <a href="/wiki/User:Rwood128" title="User:Rwood128">Rwood128</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Rwood128" title="User talk:Rwood128">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Novels/InfoboxCode#c-Rwood128-2015-03-22T13:20:00.000Z-Publication_date_and_series" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:20, 22 March 2015 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Rwood128-2015-03-22T13:20:00.000Z-Publication_date_and_series"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Rwood128-2015-03-22T13:20:00.000Z-Publication_date_and_series"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-MarnetteD-2015-03-24T11:50:00.000Z-Rwood128-2015-03-22T13:20:00.000Z"></span>The actual suggestion is that a field titled serialisaztion should be added to the infobox to allow for explanation of how the works of authors like Charles Dickens and Jules Verne's works were published. <a href="/wiki/User:MarnetteD" title="User:MarnetteD">MarnetteD</a>|<a href="/wiki/User_talk:MarnetteD" title="User talk:MarnetteD">Talk</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Novels/InfoboxCode#c-MarnetteD-2015-03-24T11:50:00.000Z-Rwood128-2015-03-22T13:20:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:50, 24 March 2015 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-MarnetteD-2015-03-24T11:50:00.000Z-Rwood128-2015-03-22T13:20:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-MarnetteD-2015-03-24T11:50:00.000Z-Rwood128-2015-03-22T13:20:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Rwood128-2015-03-24T12:10:00.000Z-MarnetteD-2015-03-24T11:50:00.000Z"></span>I have contended that this addition to the template isn't needed, because it can be d/w under "Published" (which can be used in the "release_date " spot, without changing the template). See <a class="external autonumber" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Great_Expectations#Series_and_serial">[2]</a> for an excessively long discussion of this. I have been arguing, supported by another editor, that "Series" only refers to a sequence of novels. The example, above, for <i><a href="/wiki/Master_and_Commander" title="Master and Commander">Master and Commander</a></i>, would seem to support that interpretation. <a href="/wiki/User:Rwood128" title="User:Rwood128">Rwood128</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Rwood128" title="User talk:Rwood128">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Novels/InfoboxCode#c-Rwood128-2015-03-24T12:10:00.000Z-MarnetteD-2015-03-24T11:50:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:10, 24 March 2015 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Rwood128-2015-03-24T12:10:00.000Z-MarnetteD-2015-03-24T11:50:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Rwood128-2015-03-24T12:10:00.000Z-MarnetteD-2015-03-24T11:50:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><b><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Rwood128-2015-03-24T12:26:00.000Z-Publication_date_and_series"></span>Example</b>: this is an edit, for<i><a href="/wiki/Great_Expectations" title="Great Expectations">Great Expectations</a></i> by me that was reverted: "Published Serialized 1860-1; book form 1861"</dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <p><a href="/wiki/User:Rwood128" title="User:Rwood128">Rwood128</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Rwood128" title="User talk:Rwood128">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Novels/InfoboxCode#c-Rwood128-2015-03-24T12:26:00.000Z-Publication_date_and_series" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:26, 24 March 2015 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Rwood128-2015-03-24T12:26:00.000Z-Publication_date_and_series"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Rwood128-2015-03-24T12:26:00.000Z-Publication_date_and_series"></span> </p> <dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Rwood128-2015-03-26T10:23:00.000Z-Rwood128-2015-03-24T12:26:00.000Z"></span>I have just done a very thorough survey of novels that were serialized and found that the space "series" is never used, unless the novel was one of a sequence of novels, which was rare (i.e. <a href="/wiki/Jules_Verne" title="Jules Verne">Jules Verne</a>, <i><a href="/wiki/In_Search_of_the_Castaways" title="In Search of the Castaways">In Search of the Castaways</a></i>). Serialization details are often omitted, but where they are given it is under "Publication date" (Alexander Dumas <i><a href="/wiki/Three_Musketeers" class="mw-redirect" title="Three Musketeers">Three Musketeers</a></i>). <a href="/wiki/User:Rwood128" title="User:Rwood128">Rwood128</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Rwood128" title="User talk:Rwood128">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Novels/InfoboxCode#c-Rwood128-2015-03-26T10:23:00.000Z-Rwood128-2015-03-24T12:26:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:23, 26 March 2015 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Rwood128-2015-03-26T10:23:00.000Z-Rwood128-2015-03-24T12:26:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Rwood128-2015-03-26T10:23:00.000Z-Rwood128-2015-03-24T12:26:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="English" data-mw-thread-id="h-English-20241113062000"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-English-20241113062000"></span>English<span data-mw-comment-end="h-English-20241113062000"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Novels/InfoboxCode&action=edit&section=10" title="Edit section: English"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-83.110.141.146-20241113062000-English"></span>Ndknf ofkttmkftjtn kmovk kft!tlm <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/83.110.141.146" title="Special:Contributions/83.110.141.146">83.110.141.146</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:83.110.141.146" title="User talk:83.110.141.146">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Novels/InfoboxCode#c-83.110.141.146-20241113062000-English" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">06:20, 13 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-83.110.141.146-20241113062000-English"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-83.110.141.146-20241113062000-English"></span> </p>    </div><noscript><img src="https://login.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:CentralAutoLogin/start?type=1x1" alt="" width="1" height="1" style="border: none; position: absolute;"></noscript> <div class="printfooter" data-nosnippet="">Retrieved from "<a dir="ltr" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Novels/InfoboxCode&oldid=1257098491">https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Novels/InfoboxCode&oldid=1257098491</a>"</div></div> <div id="catlinks" class="catlinks catlinks-allhidden" data-mw="interface"></div> </div> </main> </div> <div class="mw-footer-container"> <footer id="footer" class="mw-footer" > <ul id="footer-info"> <li id="footer-info-lastmod"> This page was last edited on 13 November 2024, at 06:20<span class="anonymous-show"> (UTC)</span>.</li> <li id="footer-info-copyright">Text is available under the <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Text_of_the_Creative_Commons_Attribution-ShareAlike_4.0_International_License" title="Wikipedia:Text of the Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike 4.0 International License">Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike 4.0 License</a>; additional terms may apply. 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