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id="toc-Angel_Melendez-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Response_to_Invitation_(in_Spanish)" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Response_to_Invitation_(in_Spanish)"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">6</span> <span>Response to Invitation (in Spanish)</span> </div> </a> <ul id="toc-Response_to_Invitation_(in_Spanish)-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Separation_axioms" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Separation_axioms"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">7</span> <span>Separation axioms</span> </div> </a> <ul id="toc-Separation_axioms-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Los_Andes_University" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Los_Andes_University"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">8</span> <span>Los Andes University</span> </div> </a> <ul id="toc-Los_Andes_University-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Universidad_de_los_Andes" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Universidad_de_los_Andes"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">9</span> <span>Universidad de los Andes</span> </div> </a> <ul id="toc-Universidad_de_los_Andes-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Universidad_de_los_andes_2" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Universidad_de_los_andes_2"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">10</span> <span>Universidad de los andes</span> </div> </a> <ul id="toc-Universidad_de_los_andes_2-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Reunión" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Reunión"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">11</span> <span>Reunión</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Reunión-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-biography.ms" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#biography.ms"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">12</span> <span>biography.ms</span> </div> </a> <ul id="toc-biography.ms-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Club_de_wikipédicos_colombianos..." class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Club_de_wikipédicos_colombianos..."> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">13</span> <span>Club de wikipédicos colombianos...</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Club_de_wikipédicos_colombianos...-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Hhk22.gif" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Hhk22.gif"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">14</span> <span>Hhk22.gif</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">4 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Hhk22.gif-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-WikiProyecto_y_Wikiportal" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#WikiProyecto_y_Wikiportal"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">15</span> <span>WikiProyecto y Wikiportal</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-WikiProyecto_y_Wikiportal-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Editing_User_pages" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Editing_User_pages"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">16</span> <span>Editing User pages</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">6 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Editing_User_pages-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Hello" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Hello"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">17</span> <span>Hello</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Hello-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Image_speedy_deletion" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Image_speedy_deletion"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">18</span> <span>Image speedy deletion</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">2 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Image_speedy_deletion-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Image:Adrienne_Clarkson_coa.png" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Image:Adrienne_Clarkson_coa.png"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">19</span> <span>Image:Adrienne Clarkson coa.png</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Image:Adrienne_Clarkson_coa.png-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Image_speedy_deletion_(again)" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Image_speedy_deletion_(again)"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">20</span> <span>Image speedy deletion (again)</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">6 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Image_speedy_deletion_(again)-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-WikiFun" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#WikiFun"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">21</span> <span>WikiFun</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-WikiFun-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-User_categorisation" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#User_categorisation"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">22</span> <span>User categorisation</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-User_categorisation-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Image:Garavito_crater.jpeg" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Image:Garavito_crater.jpeg"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">23</span> <span>Image:Garavito crater.jpeg</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">5 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Image:Garavito_crater.jpeg-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Image_conversions!" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Image_conversions!"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">24</span> <span>Image conversions!</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">3 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Image_conversions!-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Re:User_pages" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Re:User_pages"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">25</span> <span>Re:User pages</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Re:User_pages-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Barnstar" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Barnstar"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">26</span> <span>Barnstar</span> </div> </a> <ul id="toc-Barnstar-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Kill_Bill" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Kill_Bill"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">27</span> <span>Kill Bill</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">2 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Kill_Bill-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Featured_article_candidacy_for_an_Hugo_Chavez_subarticle" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Featured_article_candidacy_for_an_Hugo_Chavez_subarticle"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">28</span> <span>Featured article candidacy for an Hugo Chavez subarticle</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Featured_article_candidacy_for_an_Hugo_Chavez_subarticle-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Signed_measure" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Signed_measure"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">29</span> <span>Signed measure</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">2 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Signed_measure-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Jesus" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Jesus"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">30</span> <span>Jesus</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Jesus-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Springer" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Springer"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">31</span> <span>Springer</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">4 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Springer-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-No_inline_TeX?" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#No_inline_TeX?"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">32</span> <span>No inline TeX?</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">2 comments</span> <ul id="toc-No_inline_TeX?-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Deletion_of_'left_wing_wikipedians'_category" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Deletion_of_'left_wing_wikipedians'_category"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">33</span> <span>Deletion of 'left wing wikipedians' category</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">2 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Deletion_of_'left_wing_wikipedians'_category-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-User:Fibonacci/Uploads" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#User:Fibonacci/Uploads"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">34</span> <span>User:Fibonacci/Uploads</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">5 comments</span> <ul id="toc-User:Fibonacci/Uploads-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-From_Oscarín" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#From_Oscarín"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">35</span> <span>From Oscarín</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">2 comments</span> <ul id="toc-From_Oscarín-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Mistaken_image_notes" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Mistaken_image_notes"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">36</span> <span>Mistaken image notes</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Mistaken_image_notes-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Please_vote_on_move_request" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Please_vote_on_move_request"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">37</span> <span>Please vote on move request</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">2 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Please_vote_on_move_request-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Heraldic_taints" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Heraldic_taints"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">38</span> <span>Heraldic taints</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">15 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Heraldic_taints-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Rock_nacional" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Rock_nacional"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">39</span> <span>Rock nacional</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">3 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Rock_nacional-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Heraldic_gradients" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Heraldic_gradients"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">40</span> <span>Heraldic gradients</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">25 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Heraldic_gradients-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Latin_American_National_Anthems" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Latin_American_National_Anthems"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">41</span> <span>Latin American National Anthems</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">3 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Latin_American_National_Anthems-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Template:User_species" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Template:User_species"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">42</span> <span>Template:User_species</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Template:User_species-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-More_vairs." class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#More_vairs."> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">43</span> <span>More vairs.</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-More_vairs.-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Orange_/_tenne" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Orange_/_tenne"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">44</span> <span>Orange / tenne</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">7 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Orange_/_tenne-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Re:_your_SVG_questions" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Re:_your_SVG_questions"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">45</span> <span>Re: your SVG questions</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">14 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Re:_your_SVG_questions-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Image_Tagging_Image:CompactFluorescentLightBulb.png" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Image_Tagging_Image:CompactFluorescentLightBulb.png"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">46</span> <span>Image Tagging Image:CompactFluorescentLightBulb.png</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">3 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Image_Tagging_Image:CompactFluorescentLightBulb.png-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Rock_Nacional_2" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Rock_Nacional_2"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">47</span> <span>Rock Nacional</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">4 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Rock_Nacional_2-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-TWO_Questions" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#TWO_Questions"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">48</span> <span>TWO Questions</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-TWO_Questions-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Image_copyright_problem_with_Image:Zoso.png" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Image_copyright_problem_with_Image:Zoso.png"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">49</span> <span>Image copyright problem with Image:Zoso.png</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Image_copyright_problem_with_Image:Zoso.png-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Image_Tagging_Image:Sonic.png" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Image_Tagging_Image:Sonic.png"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">50</span> <span>Image Tagging Image:Sonic.png</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Image_Tagging_Image:Sonic.png-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Image_Tagging_Image:Fibonacci.png" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Image_Tagging_Image:Fibonacci.png"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">51</span> <span>Image Tagging Image:Fibonacci.png</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Image_Tagging_Image:Fibonacci.png-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Boarding_Pass" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Boarding_Pass"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">52</span> <span>Boarding Pass</span> </div> </a> <ul id="toc-Boarding_Pass-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Greetings_and_Free_Software_promotion_in_Bagatela_page" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Greetings_and_Free_Software_promotion_in_Bagatela_page"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">53</span> <span>Greetings and Free Software promotion in Bagatela page</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Greetings_and_Free_Software_promotion_in_Bagatela_page-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Santa_Marta" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Santa_Marta"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">54</span> <span>Santa Marta</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Santa_Marta-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-About_the_Furry_thing" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#About_the_Furry_thing"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">55</span> <span>About the Furry thing</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">2 comments</span> <ul id="toc-About_the_Furry_thing-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-RE:_Wikipedia_Colombia" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#RE:_Wikipedia_Colombia"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">56</span> <span>RE: Wikipedia Colombia</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">2 comments</span> <ul id="toc-RE:_Wikipedia_Colombia-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Happy_Birthday!" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Happy_Birthday!"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">57</span> <span>Happy Birthday!</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">2 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Happy_Birthday!-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Merge-to_arrow" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Merge-to_arrow"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">58</span> <span>Merge-to arrow</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">2 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Merge-to_arrow-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Images" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Images"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">59</span> <span>Images</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">2 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Images-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Peace_flag" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Peace_flag"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">60</span> <span>Peace flag</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">4 comments</span> <ul 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You should read our <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Policies_and_guidelines" title="Wikipedia:Policies and guidelines">policies</a> at some point too. </p><p>If you have any questions, see the <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Help" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:Help">help pages</a>, add a question to the <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Village_pump" title="Wikipedia:Village pump">village pump</a> or ask me on <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Bcorr" title="User talk:Bcorr">my talk page</a>.. I hope you enjoy editing here and being a <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedians" title="Wikipedia:Wikipedians">Wikipedian</a>! </p><p>And once you have an account, you can sign your name using three tildes, like this: ~~~. If you use four, you can add a datestamp too. </p><p>Again, welcome! - <a href="/wiki/User:Bcorr" title="User:Bcorr">BCorr ¤ Брайен </a> 02:01, Mar 1, 2004 (UTC) </p> <hr/> <p>Hi there. Thanks for your note on the new user log. Thanks for your contributions. If studying math during the day isn't enough for you, you may be interested in <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Mathematics" title="Wikipedia:WikiProject Mathematics">Wikipedia:WikiProject Mathematics</a>, which can always use more help. </p><p>Happy editing, <a href="/wiki/User:Isomorphic" title="User:Isomorphic">Isomorphic</a> 06:29, 1 Mar 2004 (UTC) </p><p><br/> </p> <hr/> <p>Hi. I saw you listed at <a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Wikipedians_by_fields_of_interest&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Wikipedia:Wikipedians by fields of interest (page does not exist)">this Wikipedia page</a> as someone interested in physics. I wonder if you can provide any help with this page: <a href="/wiki/Why_10_dimensions#Ramanujan_Modular_Functions" class="mw-redirect" title="Why 10 dimensions">Why 10 dimensions?</a> I am interested in Ramanujan Modular Functions and how they are used in String Theory. <a href="/wiki/User:JWSchmidt" title="User:JWSchmidt">JWSchmidt</a> 20:03, 31 Mar 2004 (UTC) </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Regarding_FeminineTails.png" data-mw-thread-id="h-Regarding_FeminineTails.png"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Regarding_FeminineTails.png"></span>Regarding FeminineTails.png<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Regarding_FeminineTails.png"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Fibonacci/Archive0&action=edit&section=2" title="Edit section: Regarding FeminineTails.png"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span></div> <p>Hi. Where did you get <a class="external free" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:FeminineTails.png">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:FeminineTails.png</a> ? Do you have permission from the author? <a href="/wiki/User:WhisperToMe" title="User:WhisperToMe">WhisperToMe</a> 06:05, 8 Jul 2004 (UTC) </p> <dl><dd>Finally answered on your talk page. --<a href="/wiki/User:Fibonacci" title="User:Fibonacci">Fibonacci</a> 03:17, 22 Sep 2004 (UTC)</dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Italian_grammar" data-mw-thread-id="h-Italian_grammar"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Italian_grammar"></span>Italian grammar<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Italian_grammar"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Fibonacci/Archive0&action=edit&section=3" title="Edit section: Italian grammar"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span></div> <p>If you're not too busy, could you please fill the <a href="/wiki/Italian_language" title="Italian language">Italian language</a> article with more information and links on Italian grammar? Thanks. [[User:Poccil|<a href="/wiki/User:Poccil" title="User:Poccil">Peter O.</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Poccil" title="User talk:Poccil">Talk</a>)]] 23:09, Oct 15, 2004 (UTC) </p> <dl><dd>Right now I'm very busy with my studies, so I don't think I can do anything. But I will as soon as I can (don't expect it to happen before december, though...). --<a href="/wiki/User:Fibonacci" title="User:Fibonacci">Fibonacci</a> 19:52, 17 Oct 2004 (UTC)</dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Article_Licensing" data-mw-thread-id="h-Article_Licensing"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Article_Licensing"></span>Article Licensing<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Article_Licensing"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Fibonacci/Archive0&action=edit&section=4" title="Edit section: Article Licensing"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span></div> <p>Hi, I've <a href="/wiki/User:Rambot#Free_the_Rambot_Articles_project" title="User:Rambot">started a drive</a> to get users to <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Multi-licensing" title="Wikipedia:Multi-licensing">multi-license</a> all of their contributions that they've made to either (1) all U.S. state, county, and city articles or (2) all articles, using the <a href="/wiki/Creative_Commons" title="Creative Commons">Creative Commons</a> Attribution-Share Alike (<i>CC-by-sa</i>) v1.0 and v2.0 <a href="/wiki/Creative_Commons_License" class="mw-redirect" title="Creative Commons License">Licenses</a> or into the <a href="/wiki/Public_domain" title="Public domain">public domain</a> if they prefer. The <i>CC-by-sa</i> license is a true free documentation license that is similar to Wikipedia's license, the <a href="/wiki/GFDL" class="mw-redirect" title="GFDL">GFDL</a>, but it allows <b>other projects</b>, such as <a href="/wiki/WikiTravel" class="mw-redirect" title="WikiTravel">WikiTravel</a>, to use our articles. Since you are among the <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:List_of_Wikipedians_by_number_of_edits" title="Wikipedia:List of Wikipedians by number of edits">top 2000</a> Wikipedians by edits, I was wondering if you would be willing to multi-license all of your contributions or at <i>minimum</i> those on the geographic articles. Over 90% of people asked have agreed. For More Information: </p> <ul><li><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Ram-Man#Multi-Licensing_FAQ" title="User talk:Ram-Man">Multi-Licensing FAQ</a> - Lots of questions answered</li> <li><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Multi-licensing" title="Wikipedia:Multi-licensing">Multi-Licensing Guide</a></li> <li><a href="/wiki/User:Rambot#Free_the_Rambot_Articles_project" title="User:Rambot">Free the Rambot Articles Project</a></li></ul> <p>To allow us to track those users who muli-license their contributions, many users copy and paste the "<b>{{DualLicenseWithCC-BySA-Dual}}</b>" template into their user page, but there are other options at <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Template_messages/User_namespace#Licensing_Templates" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:Template messages/User namespace">Template messages/User namespace</a>. The following examples could also copied and pasted into your user page: </p> <dl><dd><b>Option 1</b></dd> <dd>I agree to [[Wikipedia:Multi-licensing|multi-license]] all my contributions, with the exception of my user pages, as described below:</dd> <dd>{{DualLicenseWithCC-BySA-Dual}}</dd></dl> <p><b>OR</b> </p> <dl><dd><b>Option 2</b></dd> <dd>I agree to [[Wikipedia:Multi-licensing|multi-license]] all my contributions to any [[U.S. state]], county, or city article as described below:</dd> <dd>{{DualLicenseWithCC-BySA-Dual}}</dd></dl> <p>Or if you wanted to place your work into the public domain, you could replace "<b>{{DualLicenseWithCC-BySA-Dual}}</b>" with "<b>{{MultiLicensePD}}</b>". If you only prefer using the <a href="/wiki/GFDL" class="mw-redirect" title="GFDL">GFDL</a>, I would like to know that too. <i>Please let me know</i> what you think at my <b><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Ram-Man" title="User talk:Ram-Man">talk page</a></b>. It's important to know either way so no one keeps asking. -- <a href="/wiki/User:Ram-Man" title="User:Ram-Man">Ram-Man</a> (<a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/wiki.phtml?title=User_talk:Ram-Man&action=edit&section=new">comment</a>| <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Ram-Man" title="User talk:Ram-Man">talk)</a> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Angel_Melendez" data-mw-thread-id="h-Angel_Melendez"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Angel_Melendez"></span>Angel Melendez<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Angel_Melendez"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Fibonacci/Archive0&action=edit&section=5" title="Edit section: Angel Melendez"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span></div> <p>Hi Fibo! First of all, thank you for rwading the article about <a href="/wiki/Angel_Melendez" class="mw-redirect" title="Angel Melendez">Angel Melendez</a> that I originated. It is always charming to know someone else reads articles originated by me. </p><p>Well, I saw "<a href="/wiki/Party_Monster" class="mw-disambig" title="Party Monster">Party Monster</a>", and I read about <a href="/wiki/Michael_Alig" title="Michael Alig">Michael Alig</a>. I also used several <a href="/wiki/Internet" title="Internet">Internet</a> references, such as this one: </p><p><a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="http://americanmafia.com/">one can find many features about Mr. Melendez here</a>. </p><p>The fact I am interested in <a href="/wiki/Latin_America" title="Latin America">Latin Americans</a> and I am <a href="/wiki/Puerto_Rican" class="mw-disambig" title="Puerto Rican">Puerto Rican</a>, and he lived in <a href="/wiki/New_York,_New_York" class="mw-redirect" title="New York, New York">New York, New York</a>, which made me think there was a possibility he was Puerto Rican, were also intriguing to me. He was, in fact, a Colombian. </p><p>When originating articles, I realize we need to do research and stay as close to the information on other artickles, without adding or leaving anything out, but , at the same way, creating the article in our own way. Because this is a factual encyclopedia, I try to keep as close to a subject's information as I can. </p><p>I suppose youre from <a href="/wiki/Italy" title="Italy">Italy</a> or <a href="/wiki/Argentina" title="Argentina">Argentina</a>. In either case, Im an <a href="/wiki/Aviation" title="Aviation">aviation</a> fan and <a href="/wiki/Alitalia" title="Alitalia">Alitalia</a> and <a href="/wiki/Aerolineas_Argentinas" class="mw-redirect" title="Aerolineas Argentinas">Aerolineas Argentinas</a> are among my favorite airlines! </p><p>Thanks for everything and <a href="/wiki/God" title="God">God</a> bless you! </p><p>Sincerely yours, "<a href="/wiki/User:AntonioMartin" class="mw-redirect" title="User:AntonioMartin">Antonio He-Man Martin</a>" </p> <dl><dd>Well, I wasn't expecting you to answer in my talk page! I'll copy your answer in your talk page and continue there the discussion, for I don't think you read mine as often as yours. ;) --<a href="/wiki/User:Fibonacci" title="User:Fibonacci">Fibonacci</a> 00:37, 22 Dec 2004</dd></dl> <p>(UTC) </p> <ul><li><ul><li class="mw-empty-elt"></li></ul></li></ul> <p>Dear Fibo: Hi! First of all, let me welcome tyou to <a href="/wiki/Latin_America" title="Latin America">Latin America</a>. I hope you enjoy <a href="/wiki/Colombia" title="Colombia">Colombia</a>, although I imagine you must miss <a href="/wiki/Europe" title="Europe">Europe</a>. Here in the <a href="/wiki/United_States" title="United States">United States</a> (just a few hours away from Lat. Am.) I miss Latin America so I imagine you miss <a href="/wiki/Italy" title="Italy">Italy</a>. </p><p>As far as Latin America I have only gone to <a href="/wiki/Puerto_Rico" title="Puerto Rico">Puerto Rico</a> (obviously, I was born there, :) ) the <a href="/wiki/Dominican_Republic" title="Dominican Republic">Dominican Republic</a> and <a href="/wiki/Mexico" title="Mexico">Mexico</a>. But, when I went to Mexico, while my friends were drinking beers, I was going through a nostalgic trip because I was back where my roots were founded at (Latin America). I have never been to <a href="/wiki/Colombia" title="Colombia">Colombia</a> personally but I love my fellow Latin Americans and what goes on in Colombia worries me a lot. </p><p>Milan is a beautiful city as well, the city of fashion modeling. And I must congratulate you for being an <a href="/wiki/Italy" title="Italy">Italian</a> also. I know Italians are as proud of their heritage as us Latinos are. Much brotherly love to the paisanos from here!! </p><p>About Melendez, well, that was done about two weeks ago so I dont exactly remember the website, but I did find out hes Colombian somewhere. Otherwise I wouldnt have written it there because, well you know, like all Wikipedians, I want this encyclopedia to be taken seriously by newcomers and for them to see that we are "da place", as they say in the States urban talk :) </p><p>By the way, Im a protrstant Christian, newborn at the age of 14. But I thank God that youre a Christian too. Catholic, protestant......we all love the same God. One of my dreams is to see all churches united into one church only someday. I thank God that your soul is His. </p><p>Well, amigo I have to go. Thanks and <a href="/wiki/God" title="God">God</a> bless you! Hope to hear from you soon! </p><p>Sincerely yours, "<a href="/wiki/User:AntonioMartin" class="mw-redirect" title="User:AntonioMartin">Antonio Latino Puro Martin</a>" 10:20, Dec 21, 2004 (MST) (PS: Since I like all commercial aviation topics, how about that <a href="/wiki/Avianca" title="Avianca">Avianca</a>, ah? I think they're awesome...:) ) </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Response_to_Invitation_(in_Spanish)" data-mw-thread-id="h-Response_to_Invitation_(in_Spanish)"><span id="Response_to_Invitation_.28in_Spanish.29"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Response_to_Invitation_(in_Spanish)"></span>Response to Invitation (in Spanish)<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Response_to_Invitation_(in_Spanish)"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Fibonacci/Archive0&action=edit&section=6" title="Edit section: Response to Invitation (in Spanish)"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span></div> <dl><dd><dl><dd>Hola, gracias por la información...yo no había oído nada al respecto de esa invitación, pero ojalá que se concrete algo y se pueda realizar tal reunión, sería interesante. Por otro lado, quizás el hablar por e-mail de éstos asuntos (relacionados con Wikipedia, etc.) también sería útil, (por las posibles diferencias en horarios de trabajo o estudio, etc.) en mi opinión... <a href="/wiki/User:Juancarlos2004" title="User:Juancarlos2004">Juancarlos2004</a> 05:13, 23 Feb 2005 (UTC)</dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Separation_axioms" data-mw-thread-id="h-Separation_axioms"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Separation_axioms"></span>Separation axioms<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Separation_axioms"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Fibonacci/Archive0&action=edit&section=7" title="Edit section: Separation axioms"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span></div> <p>Hi Fibonacci. I notice you uploaded <a href="/w/index.php?title=File:RegularSpace.png&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="File:RegularSpace.png (page does not exist)">Image:RegularSpace.png</a> and <a href="/w/index.php?title=File:NormalSpace.png&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="File:NormalSpace.png (page does not exist)">Image:NormalSpace.png</a>. Perhaps you could put those at the <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Main_Page" class="extiw" title="commons:Main Page">Commons</a>? See <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Topology" class="extiw" title="commons:Topology">Commons:Topology</a>, where the same two GIF files need to be replaced. (While you're at it, perhaps you could fix the <a href="/wiki/CamelCase" class="mw-redirect" title="CamelCase">CamelCase</a> titles? "Normal space.png" and "Regular space.png" are a little nicer.) <a href="/wiki/User:Dbenbenn" title="User:Dbenbenn">dbenbenn</a> | <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Dbenbenn" title="User talk:Dbenbenn">talk</a> 05:58, 27 Mar 2005 (UTC) </p> <dl><dd>Hello. Sorry, I currently have an account only on the English and Spanish Wikipedias, and on Meta. But okay... I'll create one on Commons and upload, then. I wonder if it's worth creating an account only to upload a couple of files, though... --<a href="/wiki/User:Fibonacci" title="User:Fibonacci">Fibonacci</a> 06:11, 27 Mar 2005 (UTC)</dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd>Well, it only takes about 5 seconds. I mean, I have <a href="https://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Usuario:Dbenbenn" class="extiw" title="es:Usuario:Dbenbenn">an account on the Spanish Wikipedia</a>, and I don't even know Spanish. :) <a href="/wiki/User:Dbenbenn" title="User:Dbenbenn">dbenbenn</a> | <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Dbenbenn" title="User talk:Dbenbenn">talk</a> 06:48, 27 Mar 2005 (UTC)</dd></dl></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd>Oh! Well, in that case... nothing, for I've already uploaded the images. ;) --<a href="/wiki/User:Fibonacci" title="User:Fibonacci">Fibonacci</a> 07:20, 27 Mar 2005 (UTC)</dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Los_Andes_University" data-mw-thread-id="h-Los_Andes_University"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Los_Andes_University"></span>Los Andes University<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Los_Andes_University"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Fibonacci/Archive0&action=edit&section=8" title="Edit section: Los Andes University"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span></div> <p>There are several Los Andes universities in Colombia, therefore it must be specified the article talks about Los Andes University in Bogotá. Leave it alone. <a href="/wiki/User:KapilTagore" title="User:KapilTagore">Kapil</a> </p><p>There are several Los Andes universities in Colombia, therefore it must be specified the article talks about Los Andes University in Bogotá. </p> <dl><dd>How do you know that? I live here, and I've heard of only one Universidad de Los Andes.</dd></dl> <p>Leave it alone. </p> <dl><dd>You leave it alone.</dd></dl> <p><a href="/wiki/User:KapilTagore" title="User:KapilTagore">Kapil</a> </p> <dl><dd>--<a href="/wiki/User:Fibonacci" title="User:Fibonacci">Fibonacci</a> 00:55, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)</dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Universidad_de_los_Andes" data-mw-thread-id="h-Universidad_de_los_Andes"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Universidad_de_los_Andes"></span>Universidad de los Andes<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Universidad_de_los_Andes"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Fibonacci/Archive0&action=edit&section=9" title="Edit section: Universidad de los Andes"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span></div> <p>I <b>study</b> at the Universidad de los Andes, you moronic cuntsucker. Leave it the fuck alone. There's Universidad de los Andes everywhere. <a href="/wiki/User:KapilTagore" title="User:KapilTagore">Kapil</a> </p><p>I <b>study</b> at the Universidad de los Andes, </p> <dl><dd>Me too.</dd></dl> <p>you moronic cuntsucker. </p> <dl><dd>Oh, how kind of you!</dd></dl> <p>Leave it the fuck alone. </p> <dl><dd>Why the aggressive tone?</dd></dl> <p>There's Universidad de los Andes everywhere. </p> <dl><dd>Yes, there's one in <a href="/wiki/Chile" title="Chile">Chile</a> to. But <a href="/wiki/Chile" title="Chile">Chile</a> is not in <a href="/wiki/Colombia" title="Colombia">Colombia</a>.</dd></dl> <p><a href="/wiki/User:KapilTagore" title="User:KapilTagore">Kapil</a> </p> <dl><dd>--<a href="/wiki/User:Fibonacci" title="User:Fibonacci">Fibonacci</a> 01:07, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)</dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Universidad_de_los_andes_2" data-mw-thread-id="h-Universidad_de_los_andes_2"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Universidad_de_los_andes_2"></span>Universidad de los andes<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Universidad_de_los_andes_2"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Fibonacci/Archive0&action=edit&section=10" title="Edit section: Universidad de los andes"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span></div> <p>You're right, there's only one in <a href="/wiki/Colombia" title="Colombia">Colombia</a>. I thought there was one in <a href="/wiki/Cali" title="Cali">Cali</a> but I was mistaken. Please accept my apologies, especially for calling you a <a href="/wiki/Cunt" title="Cunt">cuntsucker</a>. <a href="/wiki/User:KapilTagore" title="User:KapilTagore">Kapil</a> </p><p>You're right, there's only one in <a href="/wiki/Colombia" title="Colombia">Colombia</a>. </p> <dl><dd>Told ya! ;)</dd></dl> <p>I thought there was one in <a href="/wiki/Cali" title="Cali">Cali</a> but I was mistaken. </p> <dl><dd>Why did you think so?</dd></dl> <p>Please accept my apologies, especially for calling you a <a href="/wiki/Cunt" title="Cunt">cuntsucker</a>. </p> <dl><dd>Apologies accepted. In the future, please remember to <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Staying_cool_when_the_editing_gets_hot" title="Wikipedia:Staying cool when the editing gets hot">stay cool</a> and <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:No_personal_attacks" title="Wikipedia:No personal attacks">don't mount personal attacks</a>.</dd></dl> <dl><dd>Where do you study, by the way? In the same Uniandes I do?</dd></dl> <p><a href="/wiki/User:KapilTagore" title="User:KapilTagore">Kapil</a> </p> <dl><dd>--<a href="/wiki/User:Fibonacci" title="User:Fibonacci">Fibonacci</a> 01:18, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)</dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd>La mismísima Universidad de los Andes en Bogotá. Pensé que había una en Cali porque hay en México, Venezuela y Chile, y creo que más en Latinoamerica, entonces pensé que también habría más en Colombia, por eso la moví en primer lugar. Qué pena de nuevo por los insultos. <a href="/wiki/User:KapilTagore" title="User:KapilTagore">Kapil</a></dd></dl></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd>¿En Méjico? Esa no me la sabía... en cuanto a las otras de Colombia, pues a mí me pareció que si habría otras que se llamaran igual en el país, debían ser de la misma gente (compare con la Nacho). A diferencia de <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="http://www.unal.edu.co">la página de la Nacho</a>, <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="http://www.uniandes.edu.co">la página de Los Andes</a> no menciona otras sedes en el país. El argumento definitivo es <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="http://www.google.com/search?q=%22Universidad+de+Los+Andes%22">una búsqueda en Google</a>.</dd> <dd>Uy jueputa, encontré a otro wikipedista en Colombia... si le parece, encontrémonos un día de éstos en Los Andes.</dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd>Y no se preocupe más por los insultos. --<a href="/wiki/User:Fibonacci" title="User:Fibonacci">Fibonacci</a> 01:43, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)</dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd>Claro, cuando quiera, dígame dónde en Los Andes y nos vemos ahí. <a href="/wiki/User:KapilTagore" title="User:KapilTagore">Kapil</a></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Reunión" data-mw-thread-id="h-Reunión-2005-05-31T17:46:00.000Z"><span id="Reuni.C3.B3n"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Reunión-2005-05-31T17:46:00.000Z"></span>Reunión<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Reunión-2005-05-31T17:46:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Fibonacci/Archive0&action=edit&section=11" title="Edit section: Reunión"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-KapilTagore-2005-05-31T17:46:00.000Z-Reunión"></span>Quihubo, no creo que el Sábado esté en Bogotá, en todo caso le hago saber esta semana. <a href="/wiki/User:KapilTagore" title="User:KapilTagore">Kapil</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Fibonacci/Archive0#c-KapilTagore-2005-05-31T17:46:00.000Z-Reunión" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:46, 31 May 2005 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-KapilTagore-2005-05-31T17:46:00.000Z-Reunión"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-KapilTagore-2005-05-31T17:46:00.000Z-Reunión"></span> </p> <dl><dd>Recuerde, no es conmigo sino con <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Escalda&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Escalda (page does not exist)">Escalda</a> (me <b>acabo</b> de enterar de que tenía página en la Wiki inglesa también), que es el que la está organizando. Suéter pues. --<a href="/wiki/User:Fibonacci" title="User:Fibonacci">Fibonacci</a> 00:20, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)</dd></dl> <p>Quihubo Fibonacci. Yo creo que el próximo Sábado tal vez podría estar disponible para ir a la reunión, me toca confirmarle esta semana. Sería como interesante ver al resto de los Wikipedistas. <a href="/wiki/User:KapilTagore" title="User:KapilTagore">Kapil</a> 06:07, 19 Jun 2005 (UTC) </p> <dl><dd>Lo mismo, hombre. Ojalá pueda ir, la reunión anterior fue un fracaso rotundo; sólo fuimos Oscarín y yo. Y a ver si finalmente conozco al otro uniandino... --<a href="/wiki/User:Fibonacci" title="User:Fibonacci">Fibonacci</a> 06:47, 19 Jun 2005 (UTC)</dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="biography.ms" data-mw-thread-id="h-biography.ms"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-biography.ms"></span>biography.ms<span data-mw-comment-end="h-biography.ms"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Fibonacci/Archive0&action=edit&section=12" title="Edit section: biography.ms"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span></div> <p>Hi Fibonacci, Did you receive any reply from the email you sent these people regarding their <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Mirrors_and_forks/Abc#Biography.ms" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:Mirrors and forks/Abc">non-compliance</a> with the GDFL? This site is starting to rank very high on Google searches, and people are still tagging Wikipedia articles as copyvios based on this site not crediting us. I'm wondering what more we can do.--<a href="/wiki/User:Duk" class="mw-redirect" title="User:Duk">Duk</a> 15:19, 4 Jun 2005 (UTC) </p> <dl><dd>No answer yet - I'm starting to suspect the didn't even read my message. I don't want to wait for this problem to be magically solved, but I don't know what more to do. If there is something more I can do to help (to take this site down - it seems the only possible solution), please tell me - I'll be more than happy to help! --<a href="/wiki/User:Fibonacci" title="User:Fibonacci">Fibonacci</a> 02:53, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)</dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Club_de_wikipédicos_colombianos..." data-mw-thread-id="h-Club_de_wikipédicos_colombianos...-2005-08-13T23:17:00.000Z"><span id="Club_de_wikip.C3.A9dicos_colombianos..."></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Club_de_wikipédicos_colombianos...-2005-08-13T23:17:00.000Z"></span>Club de wikipédicos colombianos...<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Club_de_wikipédicos_colombianos...-2005-08-13T23:17:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Fibonacci/Archive0&action=edit&section=13" title="Edit section: Club de wikipédicos colombianos..."><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Caleiva-2005-08-13T23:17:00.000Z-Club_de_wikipédicos_colombianos..."></span>Hola, Fibonacci!!! </p><p>Qué tal si armamos un grupo de wikipédicos colombianos para colaborarnos en la redacción de artículos acerca de Colombia en las enciclopedias en inglés y español??? </p><p>Por cierto, soy barranquillero pero vivo en <a href="/wiki/Saint_Louis,_Missouri" class="mw-redirect" title="Saint Louis, Missouri">Saint Louis, Missouri</a>, Estados Unidos. </p><p>Gracias por tu atención <a href="/wiki/User:Caleiva" title="User:Caleiva">Caleiva</a> 05:05, 23 Jun 2005 (UTC) </p> <dl><dd>Me parece perfecto. Ya estamos tratando de hacer algo así con los <s>chibch</s>colombianos de la Wiki en español. Diga qué me toca hacer entonces. Y no se le olvide incluirse en <a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Wikipedians/Colombia&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Wikipedia:Wikipedians/Colombia (page does not exist)">esta lista</a>. --<a href="/wiki/User:Fibonacci" title="User:Fibonacci">Fibonacci</a> 23:42, 23 Jun 2005 (UTC)</dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd>Pues básicamente tendríamos que buscar más colombianos en la enciclopedia inglesa (yo aún no estoy registrado en la enciclopedia española, pero lo voy a hacer pronto), y comenzar a buscar artículos que sean esbozos (stubs) para completarlos colaborativamente, y si es caso, hacerlos de cero.</dd> <dd>Espero que te guste la idea, y nos hablamos pronto. <a href="/wiki/User:Caleiva" title="User:Caleiva">Caleiva</a> 17:54, 25 Jun 2005 (UTC)</dd></dl></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd>Al menos tenemos ya localizados a los que están en la lista que le mostré. Los otros editan más que todo en la española, así que nos toca sólo a nosotros dos, y a los de la lista que se le midan a colaborar. Yo me le mido. --<a href="/wiki/User:Fibonacci" title="User:Fibonacci">Fibonacci</a> 02:25, 26 Jun 2005 (UTC)</dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <p><b>El Viajero Paisa dice</b>: Hola Fibonacci, gracias por invitarme al grupo de wikipédicos colombianos. Ya me agregué a la lista. Soy misionero y periodista independiente. Acabo de terminar estudios en Israel y este año regreso a Camboya. Con mucho gusto de usted y de todos los compatriotas y amigos de Colombia. <a href="/wiki/User:Elviajeropaisa" class="mw-redirect" title="User:Elviajeropaisa">Elviajeropaisa</a> 04:28, 15 Jul 2005 (-07) </p><p><b>El Viajero Paisa dice</b>: Hello Fibonacci, thanks for your welcome to Colombians... Yes, Im a Catholic missionary for Cambodia. I will see the page about religion, although I prefer subjects such cultures, languages and history. <a href="/wiki/User:Elviajeropaisa" class="mw-redirect" title="User:Elviajeropaisa">Elviajeropaisa</a> 11:37, 03 Augt. 2005 </p><p><br/> Fibo: Ya me registré en el wiki en español... qué tal si ahora practicamos un poco??? Qué tal si empezamos con un artículo acerca de <a href="/w/index.php?title=Aviatur&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Aviatur (page does not exist)">Aviatur</a> en inglés y español, por ejemplo??? <a href="/wiki/User:Caleiva" title="User:Caleiva">Caleiva</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Fibonacci/Archive0#c-Caleiva-2005-08-13T23:17:00.000Z-Club_de_wikipédicos_colombianos..." class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:17, 13 August 2005 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Caleiva-2005-08-13T23:17:00.000Z-Club_de_wikipédicos_colombianos..."><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Caleiva-2005-08-13T23:17:00.000Z-Club_de_wikipédicos_colombianos..."></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Hhk22.gif" data-mw-thread-id="h-Hhk22.gif-2005-08-02T03:36:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Hhk22.gif-2005-08-02T03:36:00.000Z"></span>Hhk22.gif<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Hhk22.gif-2005-08-02T03:36:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Fibonacci/Archive0&action=edit&section=14" title="Edit section: Hhk22.gif"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Arbiteroftruth-2005-08-02T03:36:00.000Z-Hhk22.gif"></span>You mind telling me why you are going to delete that picture without an explanation? --<a href="/wiki/User:Arbiteroftruth" class="mw-redirect" title="User:Arbiteroftruth">Arbiteroftruth</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Fibonacci/Archive0#c-Arbiteroftruth-2005-08-02T03:36:00.000Z-Hhk22.gif" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">03:36, 2 August 2005 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Arbiteroftruth-2005-08-02T03:36:00.000Z-Hhk22.gif"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Arbiteroftruth-2005-08-02T03:36:00.000Z-Hhk22.gif"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Fibonacci-2005-08-02T05:58:00.000Z-Arbiteroftruth-2005-08-02T03:36:00.000Z"></span>Because it has been replaced with a <a href="/wiki/PNG" title="PNG">PNG</a> version, as is clearly stated in the page <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Images_and_media_for_deletion" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:Images and media for deletion">Wikipedia:Images and media for deletion</a>. --<a href="/wiki/User:Fibonacci" title="User:Fibonacci">Fibonacci</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Fibonacci/Archive0#c-Fibonacci-2005-08-02T05:58:00.000Z-Arbiteroftruth-2005-08-02T03:36:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">05:58, 2 August 2005 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Fibonacci-2005-08-02T05:58:00.000Z-Arbiteroftruth-2005-08-02T03:36:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Fibonacci-2005-08-02T05:58:00.000Z-Arbiteroftruth-2005-08-02T03:36:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Arbiteroftruth-2005-08-02T21:43:00.000Z-Arbiteroftruth-2005-08-02T03:36:00.000Z"></span>Didn't catch it at first. I apologize for my lack of respect. --<a href="/wiki/User:Arbiteroftruth" class="mw-redirect" title="User:Arbiteroftruth">Arbiteroftruth</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Fibonacci/Archive0#c-Arbiteroftruth-2005-08-02T21:43:00.000Z-Arbiteroftruth-2005-08-02T03:36:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:43, 2 August 2005 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Arbiteroftruth-2005-08-02T21:43:00.000Z-Arbiteroftruth-2005-08-02T03:36:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Arbiteroftruth-2005-08-02T21:43:00.000Z-Arbiteroftruth-2005-08-02T03:36:00.000Z"></span></li></ul> <dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Fibonacci-2005-08-03T00:08:00.000Z-Arbiteroftruth-2005-08-02T21:43:00.000Z"></span>Apologies accepted. --<a href="/wiki/User:Fibonacci" title="User:Fibonacci">Fibonacci</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Fibonacci/Archive0#c-Fibonacci-2005-08-03T00:08:00.000Z-Arbiteroftruth-2005-08-02T21:43:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:08, 3 August 2005 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Fibonacci-2005-08-03T00:08:00.000Z-Arbiteroftruth-2005-08-02T21:43:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Fibonacci-2005-08-03T00:08:00.000Z-Arbiteroftruth-2005-08-02T21:43:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="WikiProyecto_y_Wikiportal" data-mw-thread-id="h-WikiProyecto_y_Wikiportal-2005-08-03T11:40:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-WikiProyecto_y_Wikiportal-2005-08-03T11:40:00.000Z"></span>WikiProyecto y Wikiportal<span data-mw-comment-end="h-WikiProyecto_y_Wikiportal-2005-08-03T11:40:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Fibonacci/Archive0&action=edit&section=15" title="Edit section: WikiProyecto y Wikiportal"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Chlewey-2005-08-03T11:40:00.000Z-WikiProyecto_y_Wikiportal"></span>Bien ya podemos ver los wikiproyecto y wikiportal de Colombia en esta wiki: </p> <ul><li><a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Wikiportal/Colombia&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Wikipedia:Wikiportal/Colombia (page does not exist)">Portal Colombia</a></li> <li><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Colombia" title="Wikipedia:WikiProject Colombia">Proyecto Colombia</a> - para mantener el portal y las páginas sobre colombia</li> <li><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Colombian_Departments" title="Wikipedia:WikiProject Colombian Departments">Proyecto Departamentos de Colombia</a> - para estandarizar las páginas de departamentos, municipios y ciudades</li> <li><a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:WikiProject_Colombian_Presidents&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Wikipedia:WikiProject Colombian Presidents (page does not exist)">Proyecto Presidents de Colombia</a> - para estandarizar las biografías de presidentes</li></ul> <p>Estos portales y proyectos están también en la wikipedia en español (pueden seguir los interwikis). </p><p>— <a href="/wiki/User:Chlewey" title="User:Chlewey">Carlos Th</a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Chlewey" title="User talk:Chlewey">(talk)</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Fibonacci/Archive0#c-Chlewey-2005-08-03T11:40:00.000Z-WikiProyecto_y_Wikiportal" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:40, 3 August 2005 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Chlewey-2005-08-03T11:40:00.000Z-WikiProyecto_y_Wikiportal"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Chlewey-2005-08-03T11:40:00.000Z-WikiProyecto_y_Wikiportal"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Editing_User_pages" data-mw-thread-id="h-Editing_User_pages-2005-08-06T00:48:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Editing_User_pages-2005-08-06T00:48:00.000Z"></span>Editing User pages<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Editing_User_pages-2005-08-06T00:48:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Fibonacci/Archive0&action=edit&section=16" title="Edit section: Editing User pages"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-VampWillow-2005-08-06T00:48:00.000Z-Editing_User_pages"></span>I just noticed you edited my user page. It is (sfaiaa and certainly standard practice) that one <b>*never*</b> edits the <i>user</i> page of another user. Should you wish to draw something to their attention - such as a changed link (in your view; they may have reasons to use a different alternative) - then the user's <i>Talk</i> page is the appropriate route for you to take. I trust I won't have to note your faux pas elsewhere. --<a href="/wiki/User:VampWillow" title="User:VampWillow">Vamp</a>:<a href="/wiki/User_talk:VampWillow" class="mw-redirect" title="User talk:VampWillow">Willow</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Fibonacci/Archive0#c-VampWillow-2005-08-06T00:48:00.000Z-Editing_User_pages" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:48, 6 August 2005 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-VampWillow-2005-08-06T00:48:00.000Z-Editing_User_pages"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-VampWillow-2005-08-06T00:48:00.000Z-Editing_User_pages"></span> </p> <dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Fibonacci-2005-08-06T00:53:00.000Z-VampWillow-2005-08-06T00:48:00.000Z"></span>Sorry, I was not aware of that. --<a href="/wiki/User:Fibonacci" title="User:Fibonacci">Fibonacci</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Fibonacci/Archive0#c-Fibonacci-2005-08-06T00:53:00.000Z-VampWillow-2005-08-06T00:48:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:53, 6 August 2005 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Fibonacci-2005-08-06T00:53:00.000Z-VampWillow-2005-08-06T00:48:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Fibonacci-2005-08-06T00:53:00.000Z-VampWillow-2005-08-06T00:48:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Tony1-2005-08-06T04:46:00.000Z-Editing_User_pages"></span>Oh bugger off, you pedant. I improved it and didn't change the meaning. The user should thank me. </p><p><a href="/wiki/User:Tony1" title="User:Tony1">Tony</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Fibonacci/Archive0#c-Tony1-2005-08-06T04:46:00.000Z-Editing_User_pages" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">04:46, 6 August 2005 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Tony1-2005-08-06T04:46:00.000Z-Editing_User_pages"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Tony1-2005-08-06T04:46:00.000Z-Editing_User_pages"></span> </p> <dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Fibonacci-2005-08-06T05:53:00.000Z-Tony1-2005-08-06T04:46:00.000Z"></span>Thank you for the insults. VampWillow's point is clear now. --<a href="/wiki/User:Fibonacci" title="User:Fibonacci">Fibonacci</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Fibonacci/Archive0#c-Fibonacci-2005-08-06T05:53:00.000Z-Tony1-2005-08-06T04:46:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">05:53, 6 August 2005 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Fibonacci-2005-08-06T05:53:00.000Z-Tony1-2005-08-06T04:46:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Fibonacci-2005-08-06T05:53:00.000Z-Tony1-2005-08-06T04:46:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Tony1-2005-08-08T06:36:00.000Z-Editing_User_pages"></span>My comment applies to you too, then. And if this Vamp person expects cooperation, s/he needs to learn politeness; I found it all aggressive. <a href="/wiki/User:Tony1" title="User:Tony1">Tony</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Fibonacci/Archive0#c-Tony1-2005-08-08T06:36:00.000Z-Editing_User_pages" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">06:36, 8 August 2005 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Tony1-2005-08-08T06:36:00.000Z-Editing_User_pages"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Tony1-2005-08-08T06:36:00.000Z-Editing_User_pages"></span> </p> <dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Fibonacci-2005-08-08T07:03:00.000Z-Tony1-2005-08-08T06:36:00.000Z"></span>Oh! There was a misunderstanding - I thought your comment was directed to me at first. Sorry. --<a href="/wiki/User:Fibonacci" title="User:Fibonacci">Fibonacci</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Fibonacci/Archive0#c-Fibonacci-2005-08-08T07:03:00.000Z-Tony1-2005-08-08T06:36:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">07:03, 8 August 2005 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Fibonacci-2005-08-08T07:03:00.000Z-Tony1-2005-08-08T06:36:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Fibonacci-2005-08-08T07:03:00.000Z-Tony1-2005-08-08T06:36:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Hello" data-mw-thread-id="h-Hello-2005-08-09T10:28:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Hello-2005-08-09T10:28:00.000Z"></span>Hello<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Hello-2005-08-09T10:28:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Fibonacci/Archive0&action=edit&section=17" title="Edit section: Hello"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Youssefsan-2005-08-09T10:28:00.000Z-Hello"></span>Thanks for joining <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Latin_America_countries" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:WikiProject Latin America countries">Wikipedia:WikiProject Latin America countries</a>. Unfortunately, I cannot contribute for some time because of my examinations.--<a href="/wiki/User:Youssefsan" title="User:Youssefsan">Youssef</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Fibonacci/Archive0#c-Youssefsan-2005-08-09T10:28:00.000Z-Hello" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:28, 9 August 2005 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Youssefsan-2005-08-09T10:28:00.000Z-Hello"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Youssefsan-2005-08-09T10:28:00.000Z-Hello"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Image_speedy_deletion" data-mw-thread-id="h-Image_speedy_deletion-2005-08-09T20:21:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Image_speedy_deletion-2005-08-09T20:21:00.000Z"></span>Image speedy deletion<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Image_speedy_deletion-2005-08-09T20:21:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Fibonacci/Archive0&action=edit&section=18" title="Edit section: Image speedy deletion"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Dbenbenn-2005-08-09T20:21:00.000Z-Image_speedy_deletion"></span>Hi again Fibonacci. Great work converting GIFs to PNG! Instead of listing the GIFs on <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:IFD" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:IFD">WP:IFD</a>, it might be easier to simply tag them for speedy deletion. Just use <span class="nowrap">{{<a href="/wiki/Template:Isd" class="mw-redirect" title="Template:Isd">isd</a>|Png file name.png}}</span>. Cheers, <a href="/wiki/User:Dbenbenn" title="User:Dbenbenn">dbenbenn</a> | <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Dbenbenn" title="User talk:Dbenbenn">talk</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Fibonacci/Archive0#c-Dbenbenn-2005-08-09T20:21:00.000Z-Image_speedy_deletion" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:21, 9 August 2005 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Dbenbenn-2005-08-09T20:21:00.000Z-Image_speedy_deletion"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Dbenbenn-2005-08-09T20:21:00.000Z-Image_speedy_deletion"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Fibonacci-2005-08-10T01:34:00.000Z-Dbenbenn-2005-08-09T20:21:00.000Z"></span>Oh! I didn't know images could be also tagged for speedy deletion... thanks for telling me, and for your message. --<a href="/wiki/User:Fibonacci" title="User:Fibonacci">Fibonacci</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Fibonacci/Archive0#c-Fibonacci-2005-08-10T01:34:00.000Z-Dbenbenn-2005-08-09T20:21:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">01:34, 10 August 2005 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Fibonacci-2005-08-10T01:34:00.000Z-Dbenbenn-2005-08-09T20:21:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Fibonacci-2005-08-10T01:34:00.000Z-Dbenbenn-2005-08-09T20:21:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Image:Adrienne_Clarkson_coa.png" data-mw-thread-id="h-Image:Adrienne_Clarkson_coa.png-2005-08-12T15:41:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Image:Adrienne_Clarkson_coa.png-2005-08-12T15:41:00.000Z"></span><a href="/w/index.php?title=File:Adrienne_Clarkson_coa.png&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="File:Adrienne Clarkson coa.png (page does not exist)">Image:Adrienne Clarkson coa.png</a><span data-mw-comment-end="h-Image:Adrienne_Clarkson_coa.png-2005-08-12T15:41:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Fibonacci/Archive0&action=edit&section=19" title="Edit section: Image:Adrienne Clarkson coa.png"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <table align="center" border="0" cellpadding="4" cellspacing="4" style="border: 2px solid #FF0000; background-color: #F1F1DE"> <tbody><tr> <td><b><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Mb1000-2005-08-12T15:41:00.000Z-Image:Adrienne_Clarkson_coa.png"></span>Image deletion warning</b> </td> <td style="font-size: 80%"><a href="/w/index.php?title=File:Adrienne_Clarkson_coa.png&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="File:Adrienne Clarkson coa.png (page does not exist)">Image:Adrienne Clarkson coa.png</a> has been listed at <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Images_and_media_for_deletion" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:Images and media for deletion">Wikipedia:Images and media for deletion</a>. If you feel that this image should not be deleted, please go there to voice your opinion. </td></tr></tbody></table> <p>I uploaded <a href="/w/index.php?title=File:Arms_of_Adrienne_Clarkson.jpg&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="File:Arms of Adrienne Clarkson.jpg (page does not exist)">Image:Arms of Adrienne Clarkson.jpg</a> instead. <span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Flag_of_Canada.svg" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/c/cf/Flag_of_Canada.svg/25px-Flag_of_Canada.svg.png" decoding="async" width="25" height="13" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/c/cf/Flag_of_Canada.svg/38px-Flag_of_Canada.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/c/cf/Flag_of_Canada.svg/50px-Flag_of_Canada.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="1200" data-file-height="600"/></a></span>--<a href="/wiki/User:Mb1000" title="User:Mb1000">Mb1000</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Fibonacci/Archive0#c-Mb1000-2005-08-12T15:41:00.000Z-Image:Adrienne_Clarkson_coa.png" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:41, 12 August 2005 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Mb1000-2005-08-12T15:41:00.000Z-Image:Adrienne_Clarkson_coa.png"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Mb1000-2005-08-12T15:41:00.000Z-Image:Adrienne_Clarkson_coa.png"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Image_speedy_deletion_(again)" data-mw-thread-id="h-Image_speedy_deletion_(again)-2005-08-12T16:57:00.000Z"><span id="Image_speedy_deletion_.28again.29"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Image_speedy_deletion_(again)-2005-08-12T16:57:00.000Z"></span>Image speedy deletion (again)<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Image_speedy_deletion_(again)-2005-08-12T16:57:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Fibonacci/Archive0&action=edit&section=20" title="Edit section: Image speedy deletion (again)"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Redux-2005-08-12T16:57:00.000Z-Image_speedy_deletion_(again)"></span>Hello again, Dbenbenn. Heeding your advice, I listed my <a href="/wiki/GIF" title="GIF">GIF</a> to <a href="/wiki/PNG" title="PNG">PNG</a> conversions in <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Speedy_deletions" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:Speedy deletions">WP:SD</a>. But I recently found the following at <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Images_and_media_for_deletion" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:Images and media for deletion">WP:IFD</a>: </p> <dl><dd><a href="/w/index.php?title=File:Ca-1957.gif&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="File:Ca-1957.gif (page does not exist)">Image:Ca-1957.gif</a>. <a href="/wiki/User:Fibonacci" title="User:Fibonacci">Fibonacci</a> had listed for Speedy deletion as a redundant image. Does not meet criteria because the <a href="/w/index.php?title=File:Ca-1957.png&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="File:Ca-1957.png (page does not exist)">image indicated</a> as the copy is a PNG file (thus not redundant). The image in question, however, is identical to said indicated "copy", and it's not been used in any article. <a href="/wiki/User:Redux" title="User:Redux">Redux</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Fibonacci/Archive0#c-Redux-2005-08-12T16:57:00.000Z-Image_speedy_deletion_(again)" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:57, 12 August 2005 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Redux-2005-08-12T16:57:00.000Z-Image_speedy_deletion_(again)"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Redux-2005-08-12T16:57:00.000Z-Image_speedy_deletion_(again)"></span></dd></dl> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Fibonacci-2005-08-14T20:23:00.000Z-Image_speedy_deletion_(again)"></span>Does it mean that WP:SD is not the right place to list them, either? Where is it, then?<br/>Thanks for your time. --<a href="/wiki/User:Fibonacci" title="User:Fibonacci">Fibonacci</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Fibonacci/Archive0#c-Fibonacci-2005-08-14T20:23:00.000Z-Image_speedy_deletion_(again)" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:23, 14 August 2005 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Fibonacci-2005-08-14T20:23:00.000Z-Image_speedy_deletion_(again)"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Fibonacci-2005-08-14T20:23:00.000Z-Image_speedy_deletion_(again)"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Dbenbenn-2005-08-14T23:10:00.000Z-Fibonacci-2005-08-14T20:23:00.000Z"></span>Well, it did get speedy deleted. And I'm pretty sure Redux was simply wrong. <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Criteria_for_speedy_deletion#Images/Media" title="Wikipedia:Criteria for speedy deletion">Wikipedia:Criteria for speedy deletion#Images/Media</a>, point 1., says <dl><dd>An image which is a redundant (all pixels the same or scaled-down)</dd></dl></dd> <dd>A PNG version of a GIF image definitely has all pixels the same.</dd></dl> <dl><dd>By the way, I don't think you have to list anything at <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:SD" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:SD">WP:SD</a>. The whole point of speedy deletion is that it only takes 1 edit: you apply the deletion tag, and you're done. <a href="/wiki/User:Dbenbenn" title="User:Dbenbenn">dbenbenn</a> | <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Dbenbenn" title="User talk:Dbenbenn">talk</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Fibonacci/Archive0#c-Dbenbenn-2005-08-14T23:10:00.000Z-Fibonacci-2005-08-14T20:23:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:10, 14 August 2005 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Dbenbenn-2005-08-14T23:10:00.000Z-Fibonacci-2005-08-14T20:23:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Dbenbenn-2005-08-14T23:10:00.000Z-Fibonacci-2005-08-14T20:23:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Fibonacci-2005-08-14T23:29:00.000Z-Dbenbenn-2005-08-14T23:10:00.000Z"></span>Okay... so how are the admins notified that there is an image tagged as redundant? And what is the <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Speedy_deletions#Requested_pages" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:Speedy deletions">Requested pages</a> section of WP:SD for, if it's not needed anyway?</dd></dl></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd>Thanks again for your time. --<a href="/wiki/User:Fibonacci" title="User:Fibonacci">Fibonacci</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Fibonacci/Archive0#c-Fibonacci-2005-08-14T23:29:00.000Z-Dbenbenn-2005-08-14T23:10:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:29, 14 August 2005 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Fibonacci-2005-08-14T23:29:00.000Z-Dbenbenn-2005-08-14T23:10:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Fibonacci-2005-08-14T23:29:00.000Z-Dbenbenn-2005-08-14T23:10:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Dbenbenn-2005-08-15T01:50:00.000Z-Fibonacci-2005-08-14T23:29:00.000Z"></span>People look in <a href="/wiki/Category:Candidates_for_speedy_deletion" title="Category:Candidates for speedy deletion">Category:Candidates for speedy deletion</a> from time to time and clear it out. I think the "Requested pages" section of WP:SD is a holdover from before categories existed. (A vestigial section, like the <a href="/wiki/Vermiform_appendix" class="mw-redirect" title="Vermiform appendix">appendix</a>.) <a href="/wiki/User:Dbenbenn" title="User:Dbenbenn">dbenbenn</a> | <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Dbenbenn" title="User talk:Dbenbenn">talk</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Fibonacci/Archive0#c-Dbenbenn-2005-08-15T01:50:00.000Z-Fibonacci-2005-08-14T23:29:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">01:50, 15 August 2005 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Dbenbenn-2005-08-15T01:50:00.000Z-Fibonacci-2005-08-14T23:29:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Dbenbenn-2005-08-15T01:50:00.000Z-Fibonacci-2005-08-14T23:29:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Fibonacci-2005-08-15T05:04:00.000Z-Dbenbenn-2005-08-15T01:50:00.000Z"></span>Okay, thank you, it is clear now. --<a href="/wiki/User:Fibonacci" title="User:Fibonacci">Fibonacci</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Fibonacci/Archive0#c-Fibonacci-2005-08-15T05:04:00.000Z-Dbenbenn-2005-08-15T01:50:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">05:04, 15 August 2005 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Fibonacci-2005-08-15T05:04:00.000Z-Dbenbenn-2005-08-15T01:50:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Fibonacci-2005-08-15T05:04:00.000Z-Dbenbenn-2005-08-15T01:50:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="WikiFun" data-mw-thread-id="h-WikiFun-2005-08-30T07:32:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-WikiFun-2005-08-30T07:32:00.000Z"></span>WikiFun<span data-mw-comment-end="h-WikiFun-2005-08-30T07:32:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Fibonacci/Archive0&action=edit&section=21" title="Edit section: WikiFun"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-AllyUnion-2005-08-30T07:32:00.000Z-WikiFun"></span>Although you got 17 and 20 correct, those questions have been already answered. It should interest you to try to answer question 7. The remaining questions for this incredibly long round are 1, 7, and 29. If you truly look at question 7, you might figure out something about it that truly honors something that you use on the Wikipedia. --<a href="/wiki/User:AllyUnion" title="User:AllyUnion">AllyUnion</a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:AllyUnion" title="User talk:AllyUnion">(talk)</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Fibonacci/Archive0#c-AllyUnion-2005-08-30T07:32:00.000Z-WikiFun" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">07:32, 30 August 2005 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-AllyUnion-2005-08-30T07:32:00.000Z-WikiFun"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-AllyUnion-2005-08-30T07:32:00.000Z-WikiFun"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="User_categorisation" data-mw-thread-id="h-User_categorisation-2005-08-31T17:52:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-User_categorisation-2005-08-31T17:52:00.000Z"></span>User categorisation<span data-mw-comment-end="h-User_categorisation-2005-08-31T17:52:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Fibonacci/Archive0&action=edit&section=22" title="Edit section: User categorisation"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Army1987-2005-08-31T17:52:00.000Z-User_categorisation"></span>You were listed on the <a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Wikipedians/Italy&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Wikipedia:Wikipedians/Italy (page does not exist)">Wikipedia:Wikipedians/Italy</a> page as living in or being associated with Italy. As part of the <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:User_categorisation" title="Wikipedia:User categorisation">Wikipedia:User categorisation</a> project, these lists are being replaced with user categories. If you would like to add yourself to the category that is replacing the page, please visit <a href="/wiki/Category:Wikipedians_in_Italy" title="Category:Wikipedians in Italy">Category:Wikipedians in Italy</a> for instructions. --<a href="/wiki/User:Army1987" title="User:Army1987">Army1987</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Fibonacci/Archive0#c-Army1987-2005-08-31T17:52:00.000Z-User_categorisation" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:52, 31 August 2005 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Army1987-2005-08-31T17:52:00.000Z-User_categorisation"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Army1987-2005-08-31T17:52:00.000Z-User_categorisation"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Image:Garavito_crater.jpeg" data-mw-thread-id="h-Image:Garavito_crater.jpeg-2005-09-19T20:00:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Image:Garavito_crater.jpeg-2005-09-19T20:00:00.000Z"></span>Image:Garavito crater.jpeg<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Image:Garavito_crater.jpeg-2005-09-19T20:00:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Fibonacci/Archive0&action=edit&section=23" title="Edit section: Image:Garavito crater.jpeg"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><i><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Bovlb-2005-09-19T20:00:00.000Z-Image:Garavito_crater.jpeg"></span>Hi. This image is currently tagged as <span class="nowrap">{{</span><a href="/wiki/Template:Nosource" class="mw-redirect mw-disambig" title="Template:Nosource">nosource</a><span class="nowrap">}}</span> which means that it is likely to be deleted in the near future. To avoid this, I strongly recommend that you add one of the tags from <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Copyright_tags" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:Copyright tags">Wikipedia:Copyright tags</a> with an appropriate explanation. If you don't understand this, please drop a note on my <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Bovlb" title="User talk:Bovlb">talk page</a>. <a href="/wiki/User:Bovlb" title="User:Bovlb">Bovlb</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Fibonacci/Archive0#c-Bovlb-2005-09-19T20:00:00.000Z-Image:Garavito_crater.jpeg" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:00, 19 September 2005 (UTC)</a></i><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Bovlb-2005-09-19T20:00:00.000Z-Image:Garavito_crater.jpeg"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Bovlb-2005-09-19T20:00:00.000Z-Image:Garavito_crater.jpeg"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Fibonacci-2005-09-19T22:08:00.000Z-Bovlb-2005-09-19T20:00:00.000Z"></span>Hello. I copied that image from <a href="https://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/" class="extiw" title="es:">es:</a>, but it seems like the original file was deleted, and I don't remember who uploaded it (otherwise I would ask them). Please note that Fair Use images are not allowed on es: anymore, so this could have been the reason for its deletion.</dd> <dd>So... how should I tag the image? --<a href="/wiki/User:Fibonacci" title="User:Fibonacci">Fibonacci</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Fibonacci/Archive0#c-Fibonacci-2005-09-19T22:08:00.000Z-Bovlb-2005-09-19T20:00:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:08, 19 September 2005 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Fibonacci-2005-09-19T22:08:00.000Z-Bovlb-2005-09-19T20:00:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Fibonacci-2005-09-19T22:08:00.000Z-Bovlb-2005-09-19T20:00:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Bovlb-2005-09-19T22:34:00.000Z-Fibonacci-2005-09-19T22:08:00.000Z"></span>My Spanish is non-existent, but I can't seem to find any trace of that image ever existing on <a href="https://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/" class="extiw" title="es:">es:</a>. Maybe it got deleted before MediaWiki 1.5 introduced deletion histories.</dd></dl></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd>Its original name was "juliog1.jpg". Although my Spanish is fluent, I don't know where are the deletion logs stored on es: - I don't even know where is the "images for deletion" page, and I don't think it's the same page where articles are listed for deletion (hey, I've never needed to list one for deletion...).</dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd>I'm afraid that Fair Use images are getting less and less tolerance here as well, especially unsourced ones. If you did not create the image yourself, and you cannot find the original source, then I don't think there's anything you can tag it with that will save it. Sorry. I suggest you try finding a NASA source for this or a replacement image, as we can use them. <a href="/wiki/User:Bovlb" title="User:Bovlb">Bovlb</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Fibonacci/Archive0#c-Bovlb-2005-09-19T22:34:00.000Z-Fibonacci-2005-09-19T22:08:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:34, 19 September 2005 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Bovlb-2005-09-19T22:34:00.000Z-Fibonacci-2005-09-19T22:08:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Bovlb-2005-09-19T22:34:00.000Z-Fibonacci-2005-09-19T22:08:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Fibonacci-2005-09-20T03:36:00.000Z-Bovlb-2005-09-19T22:34:00.000Z"></span>Okay, so be it. But I don't know how can I find sources for this - could you please help me? As for the replacement image, I already googled for "Garavito crater" and found only images identical to this. --<a href="/wiki/User:Fibonacci" title="User:Fibonacci">Fibonacci</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Fibonacci/Archive0#c-Fibonacci-2005-09-20T03:36:00.000Z-Bovlb-2005-09-19T22:34:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">03:36, 20 September 2005 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Fibonacci-2005-09-20T03:36:00.000Z-Bovlb-2005-09-19T22:34:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Fibonacci-2005-09-20T03:36:00.000Z-Bovlb-2005-09-19T22:34:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="http://pages.infinit.net/internet/jga/jgacratr.htm"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Bovlb-2005-09-20T04:21:00.000Z-Fibonacci-2005-09-20T03:36:00.000Z"></span>This page</a> (<a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="http://babelfish.altavista.com/babelfish/trurl_pagecontent?lp=es_en&url=http%3A%2F%2Fpages.infinit.net%2Finternet%2Fjga%2Fjgacratr.htm">translation</a>) shows the image, and cites the <a href="/wiki/International_Astronomical_Union" title="International Astronomical Union">International Astronomical Union</a><a rel="nofollow" class="external autonumber" href="http://www.iau.org">[1]</a>, but there the trail goes cold unless we <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="http://www.iau.org/IAU/Contact/">contact them</a>. I can't find anything else very specific, but there are various US government sites that give pictures of the moon that I believe we can use.<a rel="nofollow" class="external autonumber" href="http://www.lpod.org/archive/2004/01/LPOD-2004-01-14.htm">[2]</a><a rel="nofollow" class="external autonumber" href="https://solarsystem.nasa.gov/planets/profile.cfm?Object=Moon">[3]</a><a rel="nofollow" class="external autonumber" href="https://images.jsc.nasa.gov/luceneweb/fullimage.jsp?searchpage=true&keywords=farside&textsearch=Go&hitsperpage=5&pageno=1&photoId=AS08-17-2670">[4]</a><a rel="nofollow" class="external autonumber" href="https://nssdc.gsfc.nasa.gov/photo_gallery/photogallery-moon.html">[5]</a> I'm sure that the Garavito crater appears in at least one of these images, but I can't identify it offhand. It's a smaller crater on the farside, so I guess people don't talk about it very much. I'm sorry I can't be more helpful. <a href="/wiki/User:Bovlb" title="User:Bovlb">Bovlb</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Fibonacci/Archive0#c-Bovlb-2005-09-20T04:21:00.000Z-Fibonacci-2005-09-20T03:36:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">04:21, 20 September 2005 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Bovlb-2005-09-20T04:21:00.000Z-Fibonacci-2005-09-20T03:36:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Bovlb-2005-09-20T04:21:00.000Z-Fibonacci-2005-09-20T03:36:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Image_conversions!" data-mw-thread-id="h-Image_conversions!-2005-10-01T19:43:00.000Z"><span id="Image_conversions.21"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Image_conversions!-2005-10-01T19:43:00.000Z"></span>Image conversions!<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Image_conversions!-2005-10-01T19:43:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Fibonacci/Archive0&action=edit&section=24" title="Edit section: Image conversions!"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-E_Pluribus_Anthony-2005-10-01T19:43:00.000Z-Image_conversions!"></span>Greetings! I hope you're well. Thank you for converting (to PNG, et al.) numerous images (of flags, etc.) I've created. I have the ability to do all of this; initially, I did not out of being a novice, out of a desire to not go through the effort of changing every link/reference under the sun to an particular image, or just for expediency. Ack! If I erred, I apologise. </p><p>In any event, let me know if there are images – or a list of 'em – I can help convert, or can be otherwise helpful. Take care! <a href="/wiki/User:E_Pluribus_Anthony" title="User:E Pluribus Anthony">E Pluribus Anthony</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Fibonacci/Archive0#c-E_Pluribus_Anthony-2005-10-01T19:43:00.000Z-Image_conversions!" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:43, 1 October 2005 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-E_Pluribus_Anthony-2005-10-01T19:43:00.000Z-Image_conversions!"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-E_Pluribus_Anthony-2005-10-01T19:43:00.000Z-Image_conversions!"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Fibonacci-2005-10-01T19:46:00.000Z-E_Pluribus_Anthony-2005-10-01T19:43:00.000Z"></span>Don't worry, I have converted all of them (or so I think!), and I'm uploading them gradually. Thanks for your help offering anyway. --<a href="/wiki/User:Fibonacci" title="User:Fibonacci">Fibonacci</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Fibonacci/Archive0#c-Fibonacci-2005-10-01T19:46:00.000Z-E_Pluribus_Anthony-2005-10-01T19:43:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:46, 1 October 2005 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Fibonacci-2005-10-01T19:46:00.000Z-E_Pluribus_Anthony-2005-10-01T19:43:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Fibonacci-2005-10-01T19:46:00.000Z-E_Pluribus_Anthony-2005-10-01T19:43:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-E_Pluribus_Anthony-2005-10-01T19:50:00.000Z-Fibonacci-2005-10-01T19:46:00.000Z"></span>Great! The offer was a general one (i.e., for images other than ones I've created, as well); there are also numerous instances when precisely the same image is in different/multiple formats (JPG and PNG). Anyhow, let me know; thanks again! <a href="/wiki/User:E_Pluribus_Anthony" title="User:E Pluribus Anthony">E Pluribus Anthony</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Fibonacci/Archive0#c-E_Pluribus_Anthony-2005-10-01T19:50:00.000Z-Fibonacci-2005-10-01T19:46:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:50, 1 October 2005 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-E_Pluribus_Anthony-2005-10-01T19:50:00.000Z-Fibonacci-2005-10-01T19:46:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-E_Pluribus_Anthony-2005-10-01T19:50:00.000Z-Fibonacci-2005-10-01T19:46:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Re:User_pages" data-mw-thread-id="h-Re:User_pages-2005-10-01T21:58:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Re:User_pages-2005-10-01T21:58:00.000Z"></span>Re:User pages<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Re:User_pages-2005-10-01T21:58:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Fibonacci/Archive0&action=edit&section=25" title="Edit section: Re:User pages"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Sasquatch-2005-10-01T21:58:00.000Z-Re:User_pages"></span>My user page is open to anyone to improve =) I'm more lax than some people (who seem too tight about things). As long as you aren't adding flacid penis images, you are free to do what you will to my user page =) Regards and cheers! <b><a href="/wiki/User:Sasquatch" title="User:Sasquatch"><span style="color:#89CF19;">Sasquatch</span></a></b><span style="background-color:#C1FF5F"><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Sasquatch" title="User talk:Sasquatch">t</a>|<a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Sasquatch" title="Special:Contributions/Sasquatch">c</a></span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Fibonacci/Archive0#c-Sasquatch-2005-10-01T21:58:00.000Z-Re:User_pages" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:58, 1 October 2005 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Sasquatch-2005-10-01T21:58:00.000Z-Re:User_pages"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Sasquatch-2005-10-01T21:58:00.000Z-Re:User_pages"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Barnstar" data-mw-thread-id="h-Barnstar"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Barnstar"></span>Barnstar<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Barnstar"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Fibonacci/Archive0&action=edit&section=26" title="Edit section: Barnstar"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span></div> <figure typeof="mw:File/Frame"><a href="/wiki/File:Original_Barnstar.png" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/27/Original_Barnstar.png" decoding="async" width="111" height="107" class="mw-file-element" data-file-width="111" data-file-height="107"/></a><figcaption>Thanks for all your WikiContributions! --<a href="/wiki/User:FireFox" class="mw-redirect" title="User:FireFox"><span style="color:black;">Fir</span></a><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:ESP" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:ESP"><span style="color:green;">e</span></a><a href="/wiki/User:FireFox" class="mw-redirect" title="User:FireFox"><span style="color:red;">Fo</span></a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:FireFox" class="mw-redirect" title="User talk:FireFox"><span style="color:blue;">x</span></a></figcaption></figure> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Kill_Bill" data-mw-thread-id="h-Kill_Bill-2005-10-05T08:17:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Kill_Bill-2005-10-05T08:17:00.000Z"></span>Kill Bill<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Kill_Bill-2005-10-05T08:17:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Fibonacci/Archive0&action=edit&section=27" title="Edit section: Kill Bill"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Gillean666-2005-10-05T08:17:00.000Z-Kill_Bill"></span>Hello, Why have you changed the spelling of Hanzo to Hanzō? <a href="/wiki/User:Gillean666" title="User:Gillean666">Gillean666</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Fibonacci/Archive0#c-Gillean666-2005-10-05T08:17:00.000Z-Kill_Bill" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">08:17, 5 October 2005 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Gillean666-2005-10-05T08:17:00.000Z-Kill_Bill"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Gillean666-2005-10-05T08:17:00.000Z-Kill_Bill"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Fibonacci-2005-10-05T08:29:00.000Z-Gillean666-2005-10-05T08:17:00.000Z"></span>See <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Manual_of_Style_(Japan-related_articles)#Romanization" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:Manual of Style (Japan-related articles)">Wikipedia:Manual of Style (Japan-related articles)#Romanization</a>. --<a href="/wiki/User:Fibonacci" title="User:Fibonacci">Fibonacci</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Fibonacci/Archive0#c-Fibonacci-2005-10-05T08:29:00.000Z-Gillean666-2005-10-05T08:17:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">08:29, 5 October 2005 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Fibonacci-2005-10-05T08:29:00.000Z-Gillean666-2005-10-05T08:17:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Fibonacci-2005-10-05T08:29:00.000Z-Gillean666-2005-10-05T08:17:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Featured_article_candidacy_for_an_Hugo_Chavez_subarticle" data-mw-thread-id="h-Featured_article_candidacy_for_an_Hugo_Chavez_subarticle-2005-12-04T01:52:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Featured_article_candidacy_for_an_Hugo_Chavez_subarticle-2005-12-04T01:52:00.000Z"></span>Featured article candidacy for an Hugo Chavez subarticle<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Featured_article_candidacy_for_an_Hugo_Chavez_subarticle-2005-12-04T01:52:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Fibonacci/Archive0&action=edit&section=28" title="Edit section: Featured article candidacy for an Hugo Chavez subarticle"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Saravask-2005-12-04T01:52:00.000Z-Featured_article_candidacy_for_an_Hugo_Chavez_subarticle"></span>I noticed you have listed yourself in <a href="/w/index.php?title=Category:Leftist_Wikipedians&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Category:Leftist Wikipedians (page does not exist)">Category:Leftist Wikipedians</a>. That said, you will probably be interested in <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Featured_article_candidates/Early_life_and_military_career_of_Hugo_Ch%C3%A1vez" title="Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Early life and military career of Hugo Chávez">an Hugo Chávez Featured Article Candidacy (FAC)</a>. Chavez himself happens to be a socialist politician. As usual, please use your own higher judgment in deciding how to vote on this FAC, if you should decide to devote a few seconds to the matter. Regards, <a href="/wiki/User:Saravask" title="User:Saravask"><span style="color:#FF9000;">← S<small>ARAVASK</small> — </span></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Fibonacci/Archive0#c-Saravask-2005-12-04T01:52:00.000Z-Featured_article_candidacy_for_an_Hugo_Chavez_subarticle" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">01:52, 4 December 2005 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Saravask-2005-12-04T01:52:00.000Z-Featured_article_candidacy_for_an_Hugo_Chavez_subarticle"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Saravask-2005-12-04T01:52:00.000Z-Featured_article_candidacy_for_an_Hugo_Chavez_subarticle"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Signed_measure" data-mw-thread-id="h-Signed_measure-2005-12-06T03:47:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Signed_measure-2005-12-06T03:47:00.000Z"></span>Signed measure<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Signed_measure-2005-12-06T03:47:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Fibonacci/Archive0&action=edit&section=29" title="Edit section: Signed measure"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Oleg_Alexandrov-2005-12-06T03:47:00.000Z-Signed_measure"></span>Replied on its talk. :) Gosh Fibonacci, you are quick to assume the worst. :) <a href="/wiki/User:Oleg_Alexandrov" title="User:Oleg Alexandrov">Oleg Alexandrov</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Oleg_Alexandrov" title="User talk:Oleg Alexandrov">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Fibonacci/Archive0#c-Oleg_Alexandrov-2005-12-06T03:47:00.000Z-Signed_measure" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">03:47, 6 December 2005 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Oleg_Alexandrov-2005-12-06T03:47:00.000Z-Signed_measure"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Oleg_Alexandrov-2005-12-06T03:47:00.000Z-Signed_measure"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Fibonacci-2005-12-06T03:49:00.000Z-Oleg_Alexandrov-2005-12-06T03:47:00.000Z"></span>Which has saved my neck more than once. ^^U --<a href="/wiki/User:Fibonacci" title="User:Fibonacci">Fibonacci</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Fibonacci/Archive0#c-Fibonacci-2005-12-06T03:49:00.000Z-Oleg_Alexandrov-2005-12-06T03:47:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">03:49, 6 December 2005 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Fibonacci-2005-12-06T03:49:00.000Z-Oleg_Alexandrov-2005-12-06T03:47:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Fibonacci-2005-12-06T03:49:00.000Z-Oleg_Alexandrov-2005-12-06T03:47:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Jesus" data-mw-thread-id="h-Jesus-2005-12-06T21:52:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Jesus-2005-12-06T21:52:00.000Z"></span><a href="/wiki/Jesus" title="Jesus">Jesus</a><span data-mw-comment-end="h-Jesus-2005-12-06T21:52:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Fibonacci/Archive0&action=edit&section=30" title="Edit section: Jesus"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Scifiintel-2005-12-06T21:52:00.000Z-Jesus"></span>Check out the <a href="/wiki/Jesus" title="Jesus">Jesus</a> article and edit it to keep it focused on Jesus and a biographical account of Him. Watch the Jesus page to keep it focused on Him. Thank you. <a href="/wiki/User:Scifiintel" title="User:Scifiintel">Scifiintel</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Fibonacci/Archive0#c-Scifiintel-2005-12-06T21:52:00.000Z-Jesus" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:52, 6 December 2005 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Scifiintel-2005-12-06T21:52:00.000Z-Jesus"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Scifiintel-2005-12-06T21:52:00.000Z-Jesus"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Springer" data-mw-thread-id="h-Springer-2005-12-07T05:07:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Springer-2005-12-07T05:07:00.000Z"></span>Springer<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Springer-2005-12-07T05:07:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Fibonacci/Archive0&action=edit&section=31" title="Edit section: Springer"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Oleg_Alexandrov-2005-12-07T05:07:00.000Z-Springer"></span>OK, look at <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="http://books.google.com/books?ie=UTF-8&hl=en&id=vRxV2FwJvoAC&dq=Donald+L.+Cohn,+%27%27Measure+theory%27&prev=http://books.google.com/books%3Fq%3D%2BDonald%2BL.%2BCohn,%2B%2526%252339%253B%2526%252339%253BMeasure%2Btheory%2526%252339%253B">this</a>. Basically the book cover says Birkhauser, but google writes below that it is Spriner. Who the heck knows what is going on. </p><p>If you have a comment, you can reply here, to keep all conversation in one place. <a href="/wiki/User:Oleg_Alexandrov" title="User:Oleg Alexandrov">Oleg Alexandrov</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Oleg_Alexandrov" title="User talk:Oleg Alexandrov">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Fibonacci/Archive0#c-Oleg_Alexandrov-2005-12-07T05:07:00.000Z-Springer" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">05:07, 7 December 2005 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Oleg_Alexandrov-2005-12-07T05:07:00.000Z-Springer"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Oleg_Alexandrov-2005-12-07T05:07:00.000Z-Springer"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Fibonacci-2005-12-07T05:16:00.000Z-Oleg_Alexandrov-2005-12-07T05:07:00.000Z"></span>I hope you come and check this page for replies, then...</dd></dl> <dl><dd>Well, I'm positive it's not Springer, for it is not mentioned anywhere in the book. It's Birkhäuser. Perhaps the guys at Google made a mistake while writing that page?</dd></dl> <dl><dd>On the other hand, I'm not familiar with how to quote books (which I <b>must</b> learn to, lest my thesis be considered plagiarism... *AHEM*). Do you put the first year in which that edition was printed, regardless of reprintings? Or the year in which the exact copy you're holding in your hands right now was printed?</dd></dl> <dl><dd>Thank you for your help. --<a href="/wiki/User:Fibonacci" title="User:Fibonacci">Fibonacci</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Fibonacci/Archive0#c-Fibonacci-2005-12-07T05:16:00.000Z-Oleg_Alexandrov-2005-12-07T05:07:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">05:16, 7 December 2005 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Fibonacci-2005-12-07T05:16:00.000Z-Oleg_Alexandrov-2005-12-07T05:07:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Fibonacci-2005-12-07T05:16:00.000Z-Oleg_Alexandrov-2005-12-07T05:07:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Oleg_Alexandrov-2005-12-07T16:26:00.000Z-Oleg_Alexandrov-2005-12-07T05:07:00.000Z"></span>PS: I recently created the article <a href="/wiki/Hahn_decomposition_theorem" title="Hahn decomposition theorem">Hahn decomposition theorem</a>. Please read it and check for clarity. <small>—Preceding <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Signatures" title="Wikipedia:Signatures">unsigned</a> comment added by <a href="/wiki/User:Fibonacci" title="User:Fibonacci">Fibonacci</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Fibonacci" title="User talk:Fibonacci">talk</a> • <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Fibonacci" title="Special:Contributions/Fibonacci">contribs</a>) </small></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd>There is a style tip somewhere about how to format references.See maybe <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Cite_sources" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:Cite sources">Wikipedia:Cite sources</a> at the bottom, or some links from there.</dd></dl></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd>I will try to take one more look at <a href="/wiki/Hahn_decomposition_theorem" title="Hahn decomposition theorem">Hahn decomposition theorem</a>. From what I saw so far yesterday, it looks good.</dd></dl></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd>I think you are right about Springer. The google guys screwed it up. Or maybe Birkhauser is part of Springer? Who cares! <a href="/wiki/User:Oleg_Alexandrov" title="User:Oleg Alexandrov">Oleg Alexandrov</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Oleg_Alexandrov" title="User talk:Oleg Alexandrov">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Fibonacci/Archive0#c-Oleg_Alexandrov-2005-12-07T16:26:00.000Z-Oleg_Alexandrov-2005-12-07T05:07:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:26, 7 December 2005 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Oleg_Alexandrov-2005-12-07T16:26:00.000Z-Oleg_Alexandrov-2005-12-07T05:07:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Oleg_Alexandrov-2005-12-07T16:26:00.000Z-Oleg_Alexandrov-2005-12-07T05:07:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Fibonacci-2005-12-07T22:49:00.000Z-Oleg_Alexandrov-2005-12-07T16:26:00.000Z"></span>Thank you for your reply. I'll read that page - when I have time. :P</dd> <dd>Birkhäuser is a part of Springer? Well, I don't think so. <a href="/wiki/Amazon.com" class="mw-redirect" title="Amazon.com">Amazon.com</a> <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0817630031/qid=1133995534/sr=8-3/ref=sr_8_xs_ap_i3_xgl14/104-1328729-7947119?n=507846&s=books&v=glance">lists Cohn's book</a> as published by Birkhäuser (though they spelt it without the umlaut), and <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/185233472X/qid=1133995564/sr=2-1/ref=pd_bbs_b_2_1/104-1328729-7947119?s=books&v=glance&n=283155">this other book</a> as published by Springer. So... maybe the guys at Google <b>did</b> screw it up. --<a href="/wiki/User:Fibonacci" title="User:Fibonacci">Fibonacci</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Fibonacci/Archive0#c-Fibonacci-2005-12-07T22:49:00.000Z-Oleg_Alexandrov-2005-12-07T16:26:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:49, 7 December 2005 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Fibonacci-2005-12-07T22:49:00.000Z-Oleg_Alexandrov-2005-12-07T16:26:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Fibonacci-2005-12-07T22:49:00.000Z-Oleg_Alexandrov-2005-12-07T16:26:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="No_inline_TeX?" data-mw-thread-id="h-No_inline_TeX?-2005-12-08T02:04:00.000Z"><span id="No_inline_TeX.3F"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-No_inline_TeX?-2005-12-08T02:04:00.000Z"></span>No inline TeX?<span data-mw-comment-end="h-No_inline_TeX?-2005-12-08T02:04:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Fibonacci/Archive0&action=edit&section=32" title="Edit section: No inline TeX?"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Oleg_Alexandrov-2005-12-08T02:04:00.000Z-No_inline_TeX?"></span>Hi Fibonacci. Where did you dig that rule that there must be no inline TeX? The <a href="/w/index.php?title=Math_style_manual&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Math style manual (page does not exist)">math style manual</a> says that inline PNG is bad. Inline TeX as long as it generates to html is acceptable I think. No? You can reply here. <a href="/wiki/User:Oleg_Alexandrov" title="User:Oleg Alexandrov">Oleg Alexandrov</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Oleg_Alexandrov" title="User talk:Oleg Alexandrov">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Fibonacci/Archive0#c-Oleg_Alexandrov-2005-12-08T02:04:00.000Z-No_inline_TeX?" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">02:04, 8 December 2005 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Oleg_Alexandrov-2005-12-08T02:04:00.000Z-No_inline_TeX?"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Oleg_Alexandrov-2005-12-08T02:04:00.000Z-No_inline_TeX?"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Fibonacci-2005-12-08T03:21:00.000Z-Oleg_Alexandrov-2005-12-08T02:04:00.000Z"></span>Inline TeX that generates to HTML is acceptable, you're right. But whether a certain TeX formula is rendered as PNG or HTML depends on the user preferences (unless it's really, <b>really</b> simple). So inline TeX should be avoided. This is, of course, NOT an official policy of Wikipedia, but my own logical conclusion, so I think it's better that way. Don't you agree? --<a href="/wiki/User:Fibonacci" title="User:Fibonacci">Fibonacci</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Fibonacci/Archive0#c-Fibonacci-2005-12-08T03:21:00.000Z-Oleg_Alexandrov-2005-12-08T02:04:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">03:21, 8 December 2005 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Fibonacci-2005-12-08T03:21:00.000Z-Oleg_Alexandrov-2005-12-08T02:04:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Fibonacci-2005-12-08T03:21:00.000Z-Oleg_Alexandrov-2005-12-08T02:04:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Deletion_of_'left_wing_wikipedians'_category" data-mw-thread-id="h-Deletion_of_'left_wing_wikipedians'_category-2005-12-20T02:39:00.000Z"><span id="Deletion_of_.27left_wing_wikipedians.27_category"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Deletion_of_'left_wing_wikipedians'_category-2005-12-20T02:39:00.000Z"></span>Deletion of 'left wing wikipedians' category<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Deletion_of_'left_wing_wikipedians'_category-2005-12-20T02:39:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Fibonacci/Archive0&action=edit&section=33" title="Edit section: Deletion of 'left wing wikipedians' category"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Larix-2005-12-20T02:39:00.000Z-Deletion_of_'left_wing_wikipedians'_category"></span>Hi. I saw you're (like me) listed in this category which is up for <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Categories_for_deletion/Log/2005_December_18#Category:Wikipedians_by_politics" title="Wikipedia:Categories for deletion/Log/2005 December 18">deletion</a>. Hoped you'd like to vote in favor of keeping it... Thanks! <a href="/wiki/User:Larix" title="User:Larix">Larix</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Fibonacci/Archive0#c-Larix-2005-12-20T02:39:00.000Z-Deletion_of_'left_wing_wikipedians'_category" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">02:39, 20 December 2005 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Larix-2005-12-20T02:39:00.000Z-Deletion_of_'left_wing_wikipedians'_category"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Larix-2005-12-20T02:39:00.000Z-Deletion_of_'left_wing_wikipedians'_category"></span> </p> <ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Larix-2005-12-25T16:00:00.000Z-Larix-2005-12-20T02:39:00.000Z"></span>Thanks for voting! <a href="/wiki/User:Larix" title="User:Larix">Larix</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Fibonacci/Archive0#c-Larix-2005-12-25T16:00:00.000Z-Larix-2005-12-20T02:39:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:00, 25 December 2005 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Larix-2005-12-25T16:00:00.000Z-Larix-2005-12-20T02:39:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Larix-2005-12-25T16:00:00.000Z-Larix-2005-12-20T02:39:00.000Z"></span></li></ul> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="User:Fibonacci/Uploads" data-mw-thread-id="h-User:Fibonacci/Uploads-2006-01-30T19:28:00.000Z"><span id="User:Fibonacci.2FUploads"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-User:Fibonacci/Uploads-2006-01-30T19:28:00.000Z"></span><a href="/wiki/User:Fibonacci/Uploads" title="User:Fibonacci/Uploads">User:Fibonacci/Uploads</a><span data-mw-comment-end="h-User:Fibonacci/Uploads-2006-01-30T19:28:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Fibonacci/Archive0&action=edit&section=34" title="Edit section: User:Fibonacci/Uploads"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Sherool-2006-01-30T19:28:00.000Z-User:Fibonacci/Uploads"></span>Hi, please turn this gallery (or at least all the fair use images on it) into a list of links instead or something like that as soon as possible. Wikipedia policy doesn't allow fair use images to be displayed in userspace (see <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Fair_use#Fair_use_policy" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:Fair use">Wikipedia:Fair use#Fair use policy</a>), and acording to <a href="/wiki/User:Interiot/Reports/FairUsers" title="User:Interiot/Reports/FairUsers">this report</a> you have 35 of them on that page. I'm working pretty much at random off that list, so don't feel singled out if others on the list with more images have not yet been notified. Eventualy I'll get around to them all (though hopefully I'm not the only one working on it). Thanks in advance. --<a href="/wiki/User:Sherool" title="User:Sherool">Sherool</a> <span style="font-size:75%"><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Sherool" title="User talk:Sherool">(talk)</a></span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Fibonacci/Archive0#c-Sherool-2006-01-30T19:28:00.000Z-User:Fibonacci/Uploads" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:28, 30 January 2006 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Sherool-2006-01-30T19:28:00.000Z-User:Fibonacci/Uploads"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Sherool-2006-01-30T19:28:00.000Z-User:Fibonacci/Uploads"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Fibonacci-2006-01-31T04:29:00.000Z-Sherool-2006-01-30T19:28:00.000Z"></span>Could you please tell me which of the images I have in my upload gallery are fair use, so that I can remove those and only those?</dd> <dd>Thanks in advance, --<a href="/wiki/User:Fibonacci" title="User:Fibonacci">Fibonacci</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Fibonacci/Archive0#c-Fibonacci-2006-01-31T04:29:00.000Z-Sherool-2006-01-30T19:28:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">04:29, 31 January 2006 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Fibonacci-2006-01-31T04:29:00.000Z-Sherool-2006-01-30T19:28:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Fibonacci-2006-01-31T04:29:00.000Z-Sherool-2006-01-30T19:28:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Sherool-2006-01-31T05:04:00.000Z-Fibonacci-2006-01-31T04:29:00.000Z"></span>I'm afraid not. Logos, comics and game stuff are most likely fair use, but I'm afraid I don't have an exhaustive list. The biggest bulk is probably the coats of arms though. That's an "icky" category of images. The {{<a href="/wiki/Template:Coatofarms" class="mw-redirect" title="Template:Coatofarms">coatofarms</a>}} tag is counted as a fair use tag, but all it rely says is that the image might or might not be usable. I never know quite what to do with those myself. Anyway, sorry I don't have a list of wich ones are fair use and not, so I'm afraid you just have to check them all and see what kind of license tag they use, unless you can convince someone with a bot to make a list for you. It's not something that absolutely <i>must</i> be fixed tomorow (just as soon as possible), so if you need a few days to go though them all that's ok by me, just as long as it's beeing worked on. --<a href="/wiki/User:Sherool" title="User:Sherool">Sherool</a> <span style="font-size:75%"><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Sherool" title="User talk:Sherool">(talk)</a></span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Fibonacci/Archive0#c-Sherool-2006-01-31T05:04:00.000Z-Fibonacci-2006-01-31T04:29:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">05:04, 31 January 2006 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Sherool-2006-01-31T05:04:00.000Z-Fibonacci-2006-01-31T04:29:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Sherool-2006-01-31T05:04:00.000Z-Fibonacci-2006-01-31T04:29:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Fibonacci-2006-01-31T05:41:00.000Z-Sherool-2006-01-31T05:04:00.000Z"></span>Sorry, I'm busy with the university. Maybe tomorrow, or the day after, I'll work on it. While that happens, could you at least tell me who can I ask to do this job for me?</dd> <dd>Thanks again, --<a href="/wiki/User:Fibonacci" title="User:Fibonacci">Fibonacci</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Fibonacci/Archive0#c-Fibonacci-2006-01-31T05:41:00.000Z-Sherool-2006-01-31T05:04:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">05:41, 31 January 2006 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Fibonacci-2006-01-31T05:41:00.000Z-Sherool-2006-01-31T05:04:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Fibonacci-2006-01-31T05:41:00.000Z-Sherool-2006-01-31T05:04:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Sherool-2006-01-31T16:12:00.000Z-Fibonacci-2006-01-31T05:41:00.000Z"></span>Oh right, sorry. Well I know <a href="/wiki/User:Interiot" class="mw-redirect" title="User:Interiot">Interiot</a> and <a href="/wiki/User:Gmaxwell" title="User:Gmaxwell">Gmaxwell</a> both have access to the database from the toolserver, so either of them should be eable to whip up a script to give you a list of the ones that are fair use if you ask them nicely to help you find out wich of the many images on that page are fair use, if they have the time. --<a href="/wiki/User:Sherool" title="User:Sherool">Sherool</a> <span style="font-size:75%"><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Sherool" title="User talk:Sherool">(talk)</a></span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Fibonacci/Archive0#c-Sherool-2006-01-31T16:12:00.000Z-Fibonacci-2006-01-31T05:41:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:12, 31 January 2006 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Sherool-2006-01-31T16:12:00.000Z-Fibonacci-2006-01-31T05:41:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Sherool-2006-01-31T16:12:00.000Z-Fibonacci-2006-01-31T05:41:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="From_Oscarín" data-mw-thread-id="h-From_Oscarín-2006-02-08T19:39:00.000Z"><span id="From_Oscar.C3.ADn"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-From_Oscarín-2006-02-08T19:39:00.000Z"></span>From Oscarín<span data-mw-comment-end="h-From_Oscarín-2006-02-08T19:39:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Fibonacci/Archive0&action=edit&section=35" title="Edit section: From Oscarín"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Oscarín_Aino-2006-02-08T19:39:00.000Z-From_Oscarín"></span>Hellow Fibonacci, How are you?. Bien aquí te mando tarea de Dinamo Anime Manga International Cultural Group y es que me especifiques y expongas al grupo sobre el tema de Software Libre <i>(Free Software)</i> para hacerlo con la futura página del grupo, así como de los <i>Furry</i>, para tertulia. </p><p>Y para acabar con la vaina visita las paginas: </p> <ul><li><a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://spaces.msn.com/oscarinorbitus/">Oscarinorbitus blog</a> que dan los polémicos temas de Cartoons controversial <i>(pelea mundial por una viñeta)</i>, Falta de Garantias en Wikinews (con Julián ya no habrá paz sino guerra todo el tiempo) y el Año del Perro.</li> <li><a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="http://dinamoanimanga.blogdiario.com">Dinamo Anime Manga Blog</a></li></ul> <p>Mira a ver si viene a la reunión. Saludos. Bye and Good Luck! --<a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Oscar%C3%ADn_Aino&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Oscarín Aino (page does not exist)">Oscarín Aino</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Fibonacci/Archive0#c-Oscarín_Aino-2006-02-08T19:39:00.000Z-From_Oscarín" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:39, 8 February 2006 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Oscarín_Aino-2006-02-08T19:39:00.000Z-From_Oscarín"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Oscarín_Aino-2006-02-08T19:39:00.000Z-From_Oscarín"></span> </p> <dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Oscarín_Aino-2006-02-09T20:19:00.000Z-Oscarín_Aino-2006-02-08T19:39:00.000Z"></span>Hi, Fibonacci. Ya se leería los blogs (el de Oscarinorbitus lo actualicé hoy sobre el <i>Journalist day</i>). Bien, lo de Software Libre para exponerlo a la reunión de Dinamo son: Conceptos básicos, historia breve, inventor, usos y utilidades, aplicación para página de anime manga y lo demas que proponga ud. si lo desea. ¿ya le llegó carné del grupo? Sino escribale a <b>Adriana Cardona</b> y pidaselo al siguiente mail: <i>azubeny@hotmail.com</i> . Nos Vemos --<a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Oscar%C3%ADn_Aino&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Oscarín Aino (page does not exist)">Oscarín Aino</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Fibonacci/Archive0#c-Oscarín_Aino-2006-02-09T20:19:00.000Z-Oscarín_Aino-2006-02-08T19:39:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:19, 9 February 2006 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Oscarín_Aino-2006-02-09T20:19:00.000Z-Oscarín_Aino-2006-02-08T19:39:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Oscarín_Aino-2006-02-09T20:19:00.000Z-Oscarín_Aino-2006-02-08T19:39:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <p><b><a href="/wiki/Mar%C3%ADa_Luc%C3%ADa_Fern%C3%A1ndez" title="María Lucía Fernández">Malu, I love you</a></b> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Mistaken_image_notes" data-mw-thread-id="h-Mistaken_image_notes-2006-02-09T00:53:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Mistaken_image_notes-2006-02-09T00:53:00.000Z"></span>Mistaken image notes<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Mistaken_image_notes-2006-02-09T00:53:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Fibonacci/Archive0&action=edit&section=36" title="Edit section: Mistaken image notes"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-EncycloPetey-2006-02-09T00:53:00.000Z-Mistaken_image_notes"></span>Greetings. I noticed that you tagged my series of heraldic images (tinctures) all as being "Now Commons", but I would point out that the images I made are *not* the same images as those on the Commons, merely very similar ones. This is easiest to see when you compare the two versions of purpure, since the shade is different and the lines are rendered differently. I suspect the Commons images are the same as the ones on the French wikipedia instead. --<a href="/wiki/User:EncycloPetey" title="User:EncycloPetey">EncycloPetey</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Fibonacci/Archive0#c-EncycloPetey-2006-02-09T00:53:00.000Z-Mistaken_image_notes" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:53, 9 February 2006 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-EncycloPetey-2006-02-09T00:53:00.000Z-Mistaken_image_notes"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-EncycloPetey-2006-02-09T00:53:00.000Z-Mistaken_image_notes"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Please_vote_on_move_request" data-mw-thread-id="h-Please_vote_on_move_request-2006-02-13T22:18:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Please_vote_on_move_request-2006-02-13T22:18:00.000Z"></span>Please vote on move request<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Please_vote_on_move_request-2006-02-13T22:18:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Fibonacci/Archive0&action=edit&section=37" title="Edit section: Please vote on move request"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-LuiKhuntek-2006-02-13T22:18:00.000Z-Please_vote_on_move_request"></span>You should vote on your proposed move at <a href="/wiki/Talk:Baitou_Mountain" class="mw-redirect" title="Talk:Baitou Mountain">Talk:Baitou Mountain</a>. Nominations are not always counted as a vote. <a href="/wiki/User:LuiKhuntek" class="mw-redirect" title="User:LuiKhuntek">LuiKhuntek</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Fibonacci/Archive0#c-LuiKhuntek-2006-02-13T22:18:00.000Z-Please_vote_on_move_request" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:18, 13 February 2006 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-LuiKhuntek-2006-02-13T22:18:00.000Z-Please_vote_on_move_request"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-LuiKhuntek-2006-02-13T22:18:00.000Z-Please_vote_on_move_request"></span> </p> <dl><dd><i><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-LuiKhuntek-2006-02-14T03:01:00.000Z-LuiKhuntek-2006-02-13T22:18:00.000Z"></span>Sorry, but I didn't propose that page for moving.</i></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd>Sorry about that. Your tag appeared along with another at the nomination here: <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Requested_moves#13_February_2006" title="Wikipedia:Requested moves">Wikipedia:Requested_moves#13_February_2006</a>. Wasn't sure who owned it... <a href="/wiki/User:LuiKhuntek" class="mw-redirect" title="User:LuiKhuntek">LuiKhuntek</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Fibonacci/Archive0#c-LuiKhuntek-2006-02-14T03:01:00.000Z-LuiKhuntek-2006-02-13T22:18:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">03:01, 14 February 2006 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-LuiKhuntek-2006-02-14T03:01:00.000Z-LuiKhuntek-2006-02-13T22:18:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-LuiKhuntek-2006-02-14T03:01:00.000Z-LuiKhuntek-2006-02-13T22:18:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Heraldic_taints" data-mw-thread-id="h-Heraldic_taints-2006-03-05T01:38:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Heraldic_taints-2006-03-05T01:38:00.000Z"></span>Heraldic taints<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Heraldic_taints-2006-03-05T01:38:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Fibonacci/Archive0&action=edit&section=38" title="Edit section: Heraldic taints"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><i><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Fibonacci-2006-03-05T09:55:00.000Z-Heraldic_taints"></span>I recently added a color infobox to one of the heraldic taints, but later I noticed that you have created images for the tinctures to be used instead. The PNG-images however, are set to be replaced by SVG-images. So I would like to ask you two things:</i> </p> <ul><li><i>Were the sources of the tincture PNGs in vector form? Can you upload them as SVGs?</i></li></ul> <dl><dd>No, sorry. I found them as PNGs. But I could try to make vector versions if you want to. --<a href="/wiki/User:Fibonacci" title="User:Fibonacci">Fibonacci</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Fibonacci/Archive0#c-Fibonacci-2006-03-05T09:55:00.000Z-Heraldic_taints" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:55, 5 March 2006 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Fibonacci-2006-03-05T09:55:00.000Z-Heraldic_taints"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Fibonacci-2006-03-05T09:55:00.000Z-Heraldic_taints"></span></dd></dl> <ul><li><i><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Fibonacci-2006-03-05T09:55:00.000Z-Fibonacci-2006-03-05T09:55:00.000Z"></span>Can you create SVGs for the taints as well?</i></li></ul> <dl><dd>Which ones? --<a href="/wiki/User:Fibonacci" title="User:Fibonacci">Fibonacci</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Fibonacci/Archive0#c-Fibonacci-2006-03-05T09:55:00.000Z-Fibonacci-2006-03-05T09:55:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:55, 5 March 2006 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Fibonacci-2006-03-05T09:55:00.000Z-Fibonacci-2006-03-05T09:55:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Fibonacci-2006-03-05T09:55:00.000Z-Fibonacci-2006-03-05T09:55:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <p><i><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Gerbrant-2006-03-05T01:38:00.000Z-Heraldic_taints"></span>If you don't have vector forms available, I might draw SVGs themselves to replace the PNGs, given enough time (I'm kind of busy right now). <a href="/wiki/User:Gerbrant" title="User:Gerbrant">Shinobu</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Fibonacci/Archive0#c-Gerbrant-2006-03-05T01:38:00.000Z-Heraldic_taints" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">01:38, 5 March 2006 (UTC)</a></i><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Gerbrant-2006-03-05T01:38:00.000Z-Heraldic_taints"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Gerbrant-2006-03-05T01:38:00.000Z-Heraldic_taints"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Fibonacci-2006-03-05T09:55:00.000Z-Gerbrant-2006-03-05T01:38:00.000Z"></span>I could try to, if you are too busy. --<a href="/wiki/User:Fibonacci" title="User:Fibonacci">Fibonacci</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Fibonacci/Archive0#c-Fibonacci-2006-03-05T09:55:00.000Z-Gerbrant-2006-03-05T01:38:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:55, 5 March 2006 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Fibonacci-2006-03-05T09:55:00.000Z-Gerbrant-2006-03-05T01:38:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Fibonacci-2006-03-05T09:55:00.000Z-Gerbrant-2006-03-05T01:38:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Gerbrant-2006-03-07T10:33:00.000Z-Heraldic_taints"></span>I found some time. </p><p><span class="mw-default-size" typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Heraldic_Shield_Gules.svg" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/75/Heraldic_Shield_Gules.svg/54px-Heraldic_Shield_Gules.svg.png" decoding="async" width="54" height="64" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/75/Heraldic_Shield_Gules.svg/81px-Heraldic_Shield_Gules.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/75/Heraldic_Shield_Gules.svg/108px-Heraldic_Shield_Gules.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="54" data-file-height="64"/></a></span> </p><p>Do you like it? I could easily upload versions with other colors or hatches. I'll notify you, so you can check the colors, put them in relevant articles, etc. <a href="/wiki/User:Gerbrant" title="User:Gerbrant">Shinobu</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Fibonacci/Archive0#c-Gerbrant-2006-03-07T10:33:00.000Z-Heraldic_taints" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:33, 7 March 2006 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Gerbrant-2006-03-07T10:33:00.000Z-Heraldic_taints"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Gerbrant-2006-03-07T10:33:00.000Z-Heraldic_taints"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Fibonacci-2006-03-08T03:03:00.000Z-Gerbrant-2006-03-07T10:33:00.000Z"></span>I think it should keep the height:width rate from the original - it looks a bit awkward to me like this. Other than that, I like it. --<a href="/wiki/User:Fibonacci" title="User:Fibonacci">Fibonacci</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Fibonacci/Archive0#c-Fibonacci-2006-03-08T03:03:00.000Z-Gerbrant-2006-03-07T10:33:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">03:03, 8 March 2006 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Fibonacci-2006-03-08T03:03:00.000Z-Gerbrant-2006-03-07T10:33:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Fibonacci-2006-03-08T03:03:00.000Z-Gerbrant-2006-03-07T10:33:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Gerbrant-2006-03-08T14:19:00.000Z-Heraldic_taints"></span>Yes, you're right, I've changed it accordingly. I've uploaded the most common tinctures. I can do more, on request. I've (slightly) changed to colour of one or two to more closely match the description. Good sources for heraldic colours seem hard to find. Also, for tenne, I found several different hatchings. I picked one, hopefully the most common one. I've put them all in <a href="/w/index.php?title=Category:Heraldic_SVG_images&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Category:Heraldic SVG images (page does not exist)">Category:Heraldic SVG images</a>. <a href="/wiki/User:Gerbrant" title="User:Gerbrant">Shinobu</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Fibonacci/Archive0#c-Gerbrant-2006-03-08T14:19:00.000Z-Heraldic_taints" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:19, 8 March 2006 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Gerbrant-2006-03-08T14:19:00.000Z-Heraldic_taints"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Gerbrant-2006-03-08T14:19:00.000Z-Heraldic_taints"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Fibonacci-2006-03-08T15:51:00.000Z-Gerbrant-2006-03-08T14:19:00.000Z"></span>Just one last detail: <a href="/w/index.php?title=File:Heraldic_Shield_Gold.svg&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="File:Heraldic Shield Gold.svg (page does not exist)">this image</a> should be called "Heraldic Shield Or" instead of gold.</dd> <dd>And now, since you're done with the tinctures, you could try doing SVG images for the <a href="/wiki/Tincture_(heraldry)#Furs" title="Tincture (heraldry)">furs</a> also... ;) --<a href="/wiki/User:Fibonacci" title="User:Fibonacci">Fibonacci</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Fibonacci/Archive0#c-Fibonacci-2006-03-08T15:51:00.000Z-Gerbrant-2006-03-08T14:19:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:51, 8 March 2006 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Fibonacci-2006-03-08T15:51:00.000Z-Gerbrant-2006-03-08T14:19:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Fibonacci-2006-03-08T15:51:00.000Z-Gerbrant-2006-03-08T14:19:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Fibonacci-2006-03-08T17:23:00.000Z-Heraldic_taints"></span>As mentioned on the talk page of the Or image, I accidentally uploaded it to that location - I haven't moved it yet because I don't know how :-( </p> <dl><dd>Re-uploading it to the new location. --<a href="/wiki/User:Fibonacci" title="User:Fibonacci">Fibonacci</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Fibonacci/Archive0#c-Fibonacci-2006-03-08T17:23:00.000Z-Heraldic_taints" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:23, 8 March 2006 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Fibonacci-2006-03-08T17:23:00.000Z-Heraldic_taints"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Fibonacci-2006-03-08T17:23:00.000Z-Heraldic_taints"></span></dd></dl> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Gerbrant-2006-03-08T16:03:00.000Z-Heraldic_taints"></span>As for the furs, I will do those later. Do we need split colour-b/w versions for the furs too? <a href="/wiki/User:Gerbrant" title="User:Gerbrant">Shinobu</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Fibonacci/Archive0#c-Gerbrant-2006-03-08T16:03:00.000Z-Heraldic_taints" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:03, 8 March 2006 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Gerbrant-2006-03-08T16:03:00.000Z-Heraldic_taints"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Gerbrant-2006-03-08T16:03:00.000Z-Heraldic_taints"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Fibonacci-2006-03-08T17:23:00.000Z-Gerbrant-2006-03-08T16:03:00.000Z"></span>No, I don't think so - there aren't split versions in <a href="/wiki/Ermine_(heraldry)" title="Ermine (heraldry)">Ermine</a> for example. --<a href="/wiki/User:Fibonacci" title="User:Fibonacci">Fibonacci</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Fibonacci/Archive0#c-Fibonacci-2006-03-08T17:23:00.000Z-Gerbrant-2006-03-08T16:03:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:23, 8 March 2006 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Fibonacci-2006-03-08T17:23:00.000Z-Gerbrant-2006-03-08T16:03:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Fibonacci-2006-03-08T17:23:00.000Z-Gerbrant-2006-03-08T16:03:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-EncycloPetey-2006-03-09T09:57:00.000Z-Fibonacci-2006-03-08T17:23:00.000Z"></span>The furs (erines and vairs) typically don't use tricking except to show the dot pattern for Or and the stripe pattern for azure. Out of curiosity, why the need to replace all the PNG images with SVG versions? If I'd known this was going to happen, I would have simply made the images as SVG in the first place. I do notice that the SVG files are larger, so what is the rationale for the change? --<a href="/wiki/User:EncycloPetey" title="User:EncycloPetey">EncycloPetey</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Fibonacci/Archive0#c-EncycloPetey-2006-03-09T09:57:00.000Z-Fibonacci-2006-03-08T17:23:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:57, 9 March 2006 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-EncycloPetey-2006-03-09T09:57:00.000Z-Fibonacci-2006-03-08T17:23:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-EncycloPetey-2006-03-09T09:57:00.000Z-Fibonacci-2006-03-08T17:23:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Gerbrant-2006-03-09T10:38:00.000Z-EncycloPetey-2006-03-09T09:57:00.000Z"></span>(replied on your talk page) <a href="/wiki/User:Gerbrant" title="User:Gerbrant">Shinobu</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Fibonacci/Archive0#c-Gerbrant-2006-03-09T10:38:00.000Z-EncycloPetey-2006-03-09T09:57:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:38, 9 March 2006 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Gerbrant-2006-03-09T10:38:00.000Z-EncycloPetey-2006-03-09T09:57:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Gerbrant-2006-03-09T10:38:00.000Z-EncycloPetey-2006-03-09T09:57:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Fibonacci-2006-03-08T17:26:00.000Z-Gerbrant-2006-03-08T16:03:00.000Z"></span>Oh, and before I forget (yet again): could you please upload them on Commons, so that they are accessible from all projects? --<a href="/wiki/User:Fibonacci" title="User:Fibonacci">Fibonacci</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Fibonacci/Archive0#c-Fibonacci-2006-03-08T17:26:00.000Z-Gerbrant-2006-03-08T16:03:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:26, 8 March 2006 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Fibonacci-2006-03-08T17:26:00.000Z-Gerbrant-2006-03-08T16:03:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Fibonacci-2006-03-08T17:26:00.000Z-Gerbrant-2006-03-08T16:03:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Gerbrant-2006-03-08T17:31:00.000Z-Heraldic_taints"></span>Commons. Right. Will do. Should've thought of that myself. I'll notify you of new additions. <a href="/wiki/User:Gerbrant" title="User:Gerbrant">Shinobu</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Fibonacci/Archive0#c-Gerbrant-2006-03-08T17:31:00.000Z-Heraldic_taints" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:31, 8 March 2006 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Gerbrant-2006-03-08T17:31:00.000Z-Heraldic_taints"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Gerbrant-2006-03-08T17:31:00.000Z-Heraldic_taints"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Rock_nacional" data-mw-thread-id="h-Rock_nacional-2006-03-14T08:53:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Rock_nacional-2006-03-14T08:53:00.000Z"></span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Rock_nacional&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Rock nacional (page does not exist)">Rock nacional</a><span data-mw-comment-end="h-Rock_nacional-2006-03-14T08:53:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Fibonacci/Archive0&action=edit&section=39" title="Edit section: Rock nacional"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Marianocecowski-2006-03-14T08:53:00.000Z-Rock_nacional"></span>He there. 'm not sure why you deleted the Rock nacional reference in the <a href="/wiki/Argentine_rock" title="Argentine rock">Argentine rock</a> article, nor proposed to delet the redirect. Is it because the same might mean different things in different countries? The truth is that 'rock nacional' is a phrase very used in Argentina to refer to the Argentine rock. If, the same expression is used in other countries for their own rock, perhaps a disambiguation page would be wiser than not having a Rock Nacional article. On the other hand, if the term is not used elsewere, then I don't see why the redirection must be removed. Good wiking, <a href="/wiki/User:Marianocecowski" title="User:Marianocecowski">Mariano</a><small>(<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Marianocecowski" title="User talk:Marianocecowski">t</a>/<a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Marianocecowski" title="Special:Contributions/Marianocecowski">c</a>)</small> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Fibonacci/Archive0#c-Marianocecowski-2006-03-14T08:53:00.000Z-Rock_nacional" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">08:53, 14 March 2006 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Marianocecowski-2006-03-14T08:53:00.000Z-Rock_nacional"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Marianocecowski-2006-03-14T08:53:00.000Z-Rock_nacional"></span> </p><p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Marianocecowski-2006-03-14T08:53:00.000Z-Rock_nacional-1"></span>He there. </p> <dl><dd>Hello.</dd></dl> <p>'m not sure why you deleted the Rock nacional reference in the <a href="/wiki/Argentine_rock" title="Argentine rock">Argentine rock</a> article, nor proposed to delet the redirect. Is it because the same might mean different things in different countries? The truth is that 'rock nacional' is a phrase very used in Argentina to refer to the Argentine rock. </p> <dl><dd>It is also very used in Colombia to refer to the Colombian rock, in Chile to refer to the Chilean rock, in Peru to refer to the Peruvian rock, in Mexico to refer to the Mexican rock, and in Spain to refer to the Spanish rock.</dd></dl> <p>If, the same expression is used in other countries for their own rock, perhaps a disambiguation page would be wiser than not having a Rock Nacional article. </p> <dl><dd>Should we have a disambig page in <a href="/w/index.php?title=National_rock&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="National rock (page does not exist)">national rock</a> too, pointing to American, British, Australian, Canadian, New Zealander (etc) rock?</dd></dl> <p>On the other hand, if the term is not used elsewere, then I don't see why the redirection must be removed. </p> <dl><dd>It certainly is used.</dd></dl> <p>Good wiking, <a href="/wiki/User:Marianocecowski" title="User:Marianocecowski">Mariano</a><small>(<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Marianocecowski" title="User talk:Marianocecowski">t</a>/<a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Marianocecowski" title="Special:Contributions/Marianocecowski">c</a>)</small> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Fibonacci/Archive0#c-Marianocecowski-2006-03-14T08:53:00.000Z-Rock_nacional-1" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">08:53, 14 March 2006 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Marianocecowski-2006-03-14T08:53:00.000Z-Rock_nacional-1"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Marianocecowski-2006-03-14T08:53:00.000Z-Rock_nacional-1"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Fibonacci-2006-03-15T02:32:00.000Z-Marianocecowski-2006-03-14T08:53:00.000Z"></span>Thank you, --<a href="/wiki/User:Fibonacci" title="User:Fibonacci">Fibonacci</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Fibonacci/Archive0#c-Fibonacci-2006-03-15T02:32:00.000Z-Marianocecowski-2006-03-14T08:53:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">02:32, 15 March 2006 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Fibonacci-2006-03-15T02:32:00.000Z-Marianocecowski-2006-03-14T08:53:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Fibonacci-2006-03-15T02:32:00.000Z-Marianocecowski-2006-03-14T08:53:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Heraldic_gradients" data-mw-thread-id="h-Heraldic_gradients-2006-03-19T19:40:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Heraldic_gradients-2006-03-19T19:40:00.000Z"></span>Heraldic gradients<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Heraldic_gradients-2006-03-19T19:40:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Fibonacci/Archive0&action=edit&section=40" title="Edit section: Heraldic gradients"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Fibonacci-2006-03-19T19:40:00.000Z-Heraldic_gradients"></span>Hello. </p><p>I've recently noticed, on closer examination, that your images for both heraldic metals (<a href="/w/index.php?title=File:Heraldic_Shield_Gold.svg&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="File:Heraldic Shield Gold.svg (page does not exist)">Or</a> and <a href="/wiki/File:Heraldic_Shield_Argent.svg" title="File:Heraldic Shield Argent.svg">Argent</a>) have a gradient, instead of a solid colour, on the left side. Why is that? --<a href="/wiki/User:Fibonacci" title="User:Fibonacci">Fibonacci</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Fibonacci/Archive0#c-Fibonacci-2006-03-19T19:40:00.000Z-Heraldic_gradients" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:40, 19 March 2006 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Fibonacci-2006-03-19T19:40:00.000Z-Heraldic_gradients"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Fibonacci-2006-03-19T19:40:00.000Z-Heraldic_gradients"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Fibonacci-2006-03-19T21:48:00.000Z-Fibonacci-2006-03-19T19:40:00.000Z"></span>I have gradiented the metals to, kind of, show their "metalness". Originally or for example was meant to signify "gold", as in the metal, but in representations on paper for practical reasons often yellow was used, or even gold leaf if the money was available... On a computer screen, the best I felt I could do to make it a bit more, erm, metallic-like, was to add a subtle gradient. <dl><dd>Erm... well, maybe they were strictly metals back then, but they are currently used to represent just solid colours. I haven't seen many <a href="/wiki/Coat_of_arms" title="Coat of arms">COAs</a> where Or is rendered as actual gold or Argent as actual silver lately. And even ig they were, I don't think the gradient conveys the metallic quality of the tinctures properly. --<a href="/wiki/User:Fibonacci" title="User:Fibonacci">Fibonacci</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Fibonacci/Archive0#c-Fibonacci-2006-03-19T21:48:00.000Z-Fibonacci-2006-03-19T19:40:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:48, 19 March 2006 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Fibonacci-2006-03-19T21:48:00.000Z-Fibonacci-2006-03-19T19:40:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Fibonacci-2006-03-19T21:48:00.000Z-Fibonacci-2006-03-19T19:40:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Gerbrant-2006-03-19T21:32:00.000Z-Fibonacci-2006-03-19T19:40:00.000Z"></span>I will try to get the cleaned up versions online next week or so, but I'm kind of busy, so I can't do that now. They will look the same, but the source will have been modified to make it easier to reuse stuff in other images. <a href="/wiki/User:Gerbrant" title="User:Gerbrant">Shinobu</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Fibonacci/Archive0#c-Gerbrant-2006-03-19T21:32:00.000Z-Fibonacci-2006-03-19T19:40:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:32, 19 March 2006 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Gerbrant-2006-03-19T21:32:00.000Z-Fibonacci-2006-03-19T19:40:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Gerbrant-2006-03-19T21:32:00.000Z-Fibonacci-2006-03-19T19:40:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Fibonacci-2006-03-19T21:48:00.000Z-Gerbrant-2006-03-19T21:32:00.000Z"></span>And... they will be uploaded to Commons, right? ^^U If you're busy, I can do it for you and upload them there (well, I have work to do too, but I'm more... erm... irresponsible :P). --<a href="/wiki/User:Fibonacci" title="User:Fibonacci">Fibonacci</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Fibonacci/Archive0#c-Fibonacci-2006-03-19T21:48:00.000Z-Gerbrant-2006-03-19T21:32:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:48, 19 March 2006 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Fibonacci-2006-03-19T21:48:00.000Z-Gerbrant-2006-03-19T21:32:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Fibonacci-2006-03-19T21:48:00.000Z-Gerbrant-2006-03-19T21:32:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Gerbrant-2006-03-21T23:01:00.000Z-Fibonacci-2006-03-19T19:40:00.000Z"></span>I strongly doubt that you are more irresponsible than I :-) About the metals: at least around here they are still considered metals. In German for example, where the German words for the colours are commonly used (Rot etc.) the metals are indicated by the name of the metal (Gold etc.). Also I've seen pictures of heraldic shields where a metal effect was being simulated using light and dark shiny bits. (The official image of the shield of the Dutch municipality Noordenveld for instance.) But if you think that my way of representing that sucks, I'm open to comments. I've also seen silver represented by (sometimes gradiented) grey - presumably like the metal of an unpainted shield. <a href="/wiki/User:Gerbrant" title="User:Gerbrant">Shinobu</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Fibonacci/Archive0#c-Gerbrant-2006-03-21T23:01:00.000Z-Fibonacci-2006-03-19T19:40:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:01, 21 March 2006 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Gerbrant-2006-03-21T23:01:00.000Z-Fibonacci-2006-03-19T19:40:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Gerbrant-2006-03-21T23:01:00.000Z-Fibonacci-2006-03-19T19:40:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Fibonacci-2006-03-22T04:47:00.000Z-Gerbrant-2006-03-21T23:01:00.000Z"></span>So, you think I'm not that irresponsible? Well... would the fact that I uploaded to Commons simplified versions of all your heraldic tinctures while I should have been doing homework be proof enough? :P (yes, I did, and my homework is due this thursday...)</dd> <dd>As for the metals, in <a href="/wiki/Spanish_language" title="Spanish language">Spanish</a> they are also indicated by the name of the metal (<i>oro</i> / <i>plata</i>), but rendered as solid yellow / white. An example is the <a href="/wiki/Coat_of_arms_of_Colombia" title="Coat of arms of Colombia">coat of arms of Colombia</a>. --<a href="/wiki/User:Fibonacci" title="User:Fibonacci">Fibonacci</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Fibonacci/Archive0#c-Fibonacci-2006-03-22T04:47:00.000Z-Gerbrant-2006-03-21T23:01:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">04:47, 22 March 2006 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Fibonacci-2006-03-22T04:47:00.000Z-Gerbrant-2006-03-21T23:01:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Fibonacci-2006-03-22T04:47:00.000Z-Gerbrant-2006-03-21T23:01:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Fibonacci-2006-03-24T22:06:00.000Z-Fibonacci-2006-03-19T19:40:00.000Z"></span>Although in the image of the COA of Colombia the argent background is distinctly metallic. <dl><dd>That's because it's not Argent, but platinum. But the two <a href="/wiki/Cornucopia" title="Cornucopia">cornucopias</a> are Or. --<a href="/wiki/User:Fibonacci" title="User:Fibonacci">Fibonacci</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Fibonacci/Archive0#c-Fibonacci-2006-03-24T22:06:00.000Z-Fibonacci-2006-03-19T19:40:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:06, 24 March 2006 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Fibonacci-2006-03-24T22:06:00.000Z-Fibonacci-2006-03-19T19:40:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Fibonacci-2006-03-24T22:06:00.000Z-Fibonacci-2006-03-19T19:40:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Fibonacci-2006-03-24T22:06:00.000Z-Fibonacci-2006-03-19T19:40:00.000Z-1"></span>On another note, I have moved some bits of the SVGs to the defs section, which cleans up the files considerably. I have kept most of your simplifications, but I've renamed some elements (partly because I had already done some of the moving things to the defs section before I knew of your simplifications). <dl><dd>Was it really necessary? Since each path is used only once, there's no need to put them in defs. The border around the monochrome filling is also unnecessary, since there is a border around the whole image already. --<a href="/wiki/User:Fibonacci" title="User:Fibonacci">Fibonacci</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Fibonacci/Archive0#c-Fibonacci-2006-03-24T22:06:00.000Z-Fibonacci-2006-03-19T19:40:00.000Z-1" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:06, 24 March 2006 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Fibonacci-2006-03-24T22:06:00.000Z-Fibonacci-2006-03-19T19:40:00.000Z-1"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Fibonacci-2006-03-24T22:06:00.000Z-Fibonacci-2006-03-19T19:40:00.000Z-1"></span></dd></dl></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Fibonacci-2006-03-24T22:06:00.000Z-Fibonacci-2006-03-19T19:40:00.000Z-2"></span>Oh, and the tenné image, according to <a rel="nofollow" class="external autonumber" href="http://www.crwflags.com/fotw/flags/heraldry.html">[6]</a> the hatching is for brown/brunatre, what he calls marron - so I thought, darken it up a bit and it's a perfect brunatre image. Downside is that we can now safely say that we need a new tenné image. <dl><dd>According to that same page, tenné = orange; can it really be trusted? --<a href="/wiki/User:Fibonacci" title="User:Fibonacci">Fibonacci</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Fibonacci/Archive0#c-Fibonacci-2006-03-24T22:06:00.000Z-Fibonacci-2006-03-19T19:40:00.000Z-2" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:06, 24 March 2006 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Fibonacci-2006-03-24T22:06:00.000Z-Fibonacci-2006-03-19T19:40:00.000Z-2"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Fibonacci-2006-03-24T22:06:00.000Z-Fibonacci-2006-03-19T19:40:00.000Z-2"></span></dd></dl></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Gerbrant-2006-03-24T05:01:00.000Z-Fibonacci-2006-03-19T19:40:00.000Z"></span>I now also have a file that contains all definitions, that is hatchings and shield shape at the moment, but that could contain the furs as well. Shall I upload it? <a href="/wiki/User:Gerbrant" title="User:Gerbrant">Shinobu</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Fibonacci/Archive0#c-Gerbrant-2006-03-24T05:01:00.000Z-Fibonacci-2006-03-19T19:40:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">05:01, 24 March 2006 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Gerbrant-2006-03-24T05:01:00.000Z-Fibonacci-2006-03-19T19:40:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Gerbrant-2006-03-24T05:01:00.000Z-Fibonacci-2006-03-19T19:40:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Fibonacci-2006-03-24T22:06:00.000Z-Gerbrant-2006-03-24T05:01:00.000Z"></span>The raw file? I don't think it is necessary. --<a href="/wiki/User:Fibonacci" title="User:Fibonacci">Fibonacci</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Fibonacci/Archive0#c-Fibonacci-2006-03-24T22:06:00.000Z-Gerbrant-2006-03-24T05:01:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:06, 24 March 2006 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Fibonacci-2006-03-24T22:06:00.000Z-Gerbrant-2006-03-24T05:01:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Fibonacci-2006-03-24T22:06:00.000Z-Gerbrant-2006-03-24T05:01:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Fibonacci-2006-03-24T22:06:00.000Z-Fibonacci-2006-03-19T19:40:00.000Z-3"></span>Finished. They contain your simplifications, some standardization between the images, and a simplification of mine. Unfortunately I noticed too late that you had also removed the gradients and the white space (did you use a special tool for this?). <dl><dd>Yes, an ASCII editor <code>XD</code>. --<a href="/wiki/User:Fibonacci" title="User:Fibonacci">Fibonacci</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Fibonacci/Archive0#c-Fibonacci-2006-03-24T22:06:00.000Z-Fibonacci-2006-03-19T19:40:00.000Z-3" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:06, 24 March 2006 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Fibonacci-2006-03-24T22:06:00.000Z-Fibonacci-2006-03-19T19:40:00.000Z-3"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Fibonacci-2006-03-24T22:06:00.000Z-Fibonacci-2006-03-19T19:40:00.000Z-3"></span></dd></dl></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Fibonacci-2006-03-24T22:06:00.000Z-Fibonacci-2006-03-19T19:40:00.000Z-4"></span>The white space is a minor matter (what you lose in filesize you gain in readability) but the gradients should either be removed or possibly be replaced by something more metallic. <dl><dd>Workin' on it. --<a href="/wiki/User:Fibonacci" title="User:Fibonacci">Fibonacci</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Fibonacci/Archive0#c-Fibonacci-2006-03-24T22:06:00.000Z-Fibonacci-2006-03-19T19:40:00.000Z-4" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:06, 24 March 2006 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Fibonacci-2006-03-24T22:06:00.000Z-Fibonacci-2006-03-19T19:40:00.000Z-4"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Fibonacci-2006-03-24T22:06:00.000Z-Fibonacci-2006-03-19T19:40:00.000Z-4"></span></dd></dl></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Gerbrant-2006-03-24T05:53:00.000Z-Fibonacci-2006-03-19T19:40:00.000Z"></span>I haven't uploaded brunatre and tenne yet, because of worries about tricking. <a href="/wiki/User:Gerbrant" title="User:Gerbrant">Shinobu</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Fibonacci/Archive0#c-Gerbrant-2006-03-24T05:53:00.000Z-Fibonacci-2006-03-19T19:40:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">05:53, 24 March 2006 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Gerbrant-2006-03-24T05:53:00.000Z-Fibonacci-2006-03-19T19:40:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Gerbrant-2006-03-24T05:53:00.000Z-Fibonacci-2006-03-19T19:40:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Fibonacci-2006-03-24T22:06:00.000Z-Gerbrant-2006-03-24T05:53:00.000Z"></span>Of... what, excuse me? --<a href="/wiki/User:Fibonacci" title="User:Fibonacci">Fibonacci</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Fibonacci/Archive0#c-Fibonacci-2006-03-24T22:06:00.000Z-Gerbrant-2006-03-24T05:53:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:06, 24 March 2006 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Fibonacci-2006-03-24T22:06:00.000Z-Gerbrant-2006-03-24T05:53:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Fibonacci-2006-03-24T22:06:00.000Z-Gerbrant-2006-03-24T05:53:00.000Z"></span></dd> <dd><b><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Fibonacci-2006-03-24T23:09:00.000Z-Gerbrant-2006-03-24T05:53:00.000Z"></span>Update:</b> I've uploaded <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Image:Heraldic_Shield_Or.svg" class="extiw" title="commons:Image:Heraldic Shield Or.svg">Or</a> and <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Image:Heraldic_Shield_Argent.svg" class="extiw" title="commons:Image:Heraldic Shield Argent.svg">Argent</a> shields without gradients. --<a href="/wiki/User:Fibonacci" title="User:Fibonacci">Fibonacci</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Fibonacci/Archive0#c-Fibonacci-2006-03-24T23:09:00.000Z-Gerbrant-2006-03-24T05:53:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:09, 24 March 2006 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Fibonacci-2006-03-24T23:09:00.000Z-Gerbrant-2006-03-24T05:53:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Fibonacci-2006-03-24T23:09:00.000Z-Gerbrant-2006-03-24T05:53:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Fibonacci-2006-03-25T01:17:00.000Z-Fibonacci-2006-03-19T19:40:00.000Z"></span>An ASCII editor, eh? Well, I guess nobody will shoot us if we decide to leave the white space in. About my tricking worries, I still don't feel sure we have got the right tricking (or hatching if you like that term better) for brunatre and tenne. We could just copy the way that website does it - they seem to have a paper source, after all. <dl><dd>I noticed that the hatching for Tenné which is shown at FOTW is strikingly similar to the hatching you did for Orange. --<a href="/wiki/User:Fibonacci" title="User:Fibonacci">Fibonacci</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Fibonacci/Archive0#c-Fibonacci-2006-03-25T01:17:00.000Z-Fibonacci-2006-03-19T19:40:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">01:17, 25 March 2006 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Fibonacci-2006-03-25T01:17:00.000Z-Fibonacci-2006-03-19T19:40:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Fibonacci-2006-03-25T01:17:00.000Z-Fibonacci-2006-03-19T19:40:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Fibonacci-2006-03-25T01:17:00.000Z-Fibonacci-2006-03-19T19:40:00.000Z-1"></span>On another note, how do you like these:</dd> <dd><span class="mw-default-size" typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Heraldic_Shield_Vair.svg" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/b0/Heraldic_Shield_Vair.svg/54px-Heraldic_Shield_Vair.svg.png" decoding="async" width="54" height="64" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/b0/Heraldic_Shield_Vair.svg/81px-Heraldic_Shield_Vair.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/b0/Heraldic_Shield_Vair.svg/108px-Heraldic_Shield_Vair.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="54" data-file-height="64"/></a></span> <span class="mw-default-size" typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Heraldic_Shield_Vairy_or_and_gules.svg" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/4/42/Heraldic_Shield_Vairy_or_and_gules.svg/1026px-Heraldic_Shield_Vairy_or_and_gules.svg.png" decoding="async" width="1026" height="1216" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/4/42/Heraldic_Shield_Vairy_or_and_gules.svg/1539px-Heraldic_Shield_Vairy_or_and_gules.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/4/42/Heraldic_Shield_Vairy_or_and_gules.svg/2052px-Heraldic_Shield_Vairy_or_and_gules.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="1026" data-file-height="1216"/></a></span> <dl><dd>I like them. Just wait 'til I simplify them too ;) --<a href="/wiki/User:Fibonacci" title="User:Fibonacci">Fibonacci</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Fibonacci/Archive0#c-Fibonacci-2006-03-25T01:17:00.000Z-Fibonacci-2006-03-19T19:40:00.000Z-1" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">01:17, 25 March 2006 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Fibonacci-2006-03-25T01:17:00.000Z-Fibonacci-2006-03-19T19:40:00.000Z-1"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Fibonacci-2006-03-25T01:17:00.000Z-Fibonacci-2006-03-19T19:40:00.000Z-1"></span></dd></dl></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Gerbrant-2006-03-25T00:36:00.000Z-Fibonacci-2006-03-19T19:40:00.000Z"></span>So the furs aren't that tough. I start liking SVG better and better. Did you merge the old or/argent with the new ones, or just reupload the old ones? I doesn't matter much for presentation, but I like to keep files consistent. Minor matter, low priority. <a href="/wiki/User:Gerbrant" title="User:Gerbrant">Shinobu</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Fibonacci/Archive0#c-Gerbrant-2006-03-25T00:36:00.000Z-Fibonacci-2006-03-19T19:40:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:36, 25 March 2006 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Gerbrant-2006-03-25T00:36:00.000Z-Fibonacci-2006-03-19T19:40:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Gerbrant-2006-03-25T00:36:00.000Z-Fibonacci-2006-03-19T19:40:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Fibonacci-2006-03-25T01:17:00.000Z-Gerbrant-2006-03-25T00:36:00.000Z"></span>I reverted the Argent shield, and changed the shade of yellow for Or. Nothing more.</dd> <dd>On a side note, I noticed you changed the patterns I had for the tinctures - the black strips in <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Image:Heraldic_Shield_Gules.svg" class="extiw" title="commons:Image:Heraldic Shield Gules.svg">Gules</a> seem to be as wide as the white spaces between them, for example. Why was that? --<a href="/wiki/User:Fibonacci" title="User:Fibonacci">Fibonacci</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Fibonacci/Archive0#c-Fibonacci-2006-03-25T01:17:00.000Z-Gerbrant-2006-03-25T00:36:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">01:17, 25 March 2006 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Fibonacci-2006-03-25T01:17:00.000Z-Gerbrant-2006-03-25T00:36:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Fibonacci-2006-03-25T01:17:00.000Z-Gerbrant-2006-03-25T00:36:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Fibonacci-2006-03-26T02:34:00.000Z-Fibonacci-2006-03-19T19:40:00.000Z"></span>I don't think there is much that can be usufully simpified on them, since I noted your previous simplifications and used them directly this time. Stripping white space is a task that should be left to a tool, I think. <dl><dd>Oh, I used a tool - another plaintext editor <code>:)</code> --<a href="/wiki/User:Fibonacci" title="User:Fibonacci">Fibonacci</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Fibonacci/Archive0#c-Fibonacci-2006-03-26T02:34:00.000Z-Fibonacci-2006-03-19T19:40:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">02:34, 26 March 2006 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Fibonacci-2006-03-26T02:34:00.000Z-Fibonacci-2006-03-19T19:40:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Fibonacci-2006-03-26T02:34:00.000Z-Fibonacci-2006-03-19T19:40:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Gerbrant-2006-03-25T01:31:00.000Z-Heraldic_gradients"></span>As for the strips: the width of a black stripe was drawn to be a third of the width of the white space in between, or a quarter of the repetition interval. If the stripes appear wider, there is the possibility that your monitor broadens vertical black lines (my old CRT did that too) or that you have somehow rigged MediaWiki to show the SVGs with a plugin (I don't know if that's even possible) and the plugin doesn't render it correctly.</dd> <dd><span class="mw-default-size" typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Heraldic_Shield_Gules.svg" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/75/Heraldic_Shield_Gules.svg/54px-Heraldic_Shield_Gules.svg.png" decoding="async" width="54" height="64" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/75/Heraldic_Shield_Gules.svg/81px-Heraldic_Shield_Gules.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/75/Heraldic_Shield_Gules.svg/108px-Heraldic_Shield_Gules.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="54" data-file-height="64"/></a></span> <span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Heraldic_Shield_Gules.svg" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/75/Heraldic_Shield_Gules.svg/108px-Heraldic_Shield_Gules.svg.png" decoding="async" width="108" height="128" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/75/Heraldic_Shield_Gules.svg/162px-Heraldic_Shield_Gules.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/75/Heraldic_Shield_Gules.svg/216px-Heraldic_Shield_Gules.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="54" data-file-height="64"/></a></span> <span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Heraldic_Shield_Gules.svg" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/75/Heraldic_Shield_Gules.svg/216px-Heraldic_Shield_Gules.svg.png" decoding="async" width="216" height="256" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/75/Heraldic_Shield_Gules.svg/324px-Heraldic_Shield_Gules.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/75/Heraldic_Shield_Gules.svg/432px-Heraldic_Shield_Gules.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="54" data-file-height="64"/></a></span></dd></dl> <p>If the larger versions look better, your monitor is the problem. Don't worry, it will look okay when printed. Otherwise something else is wrong. Upload a screen shot indicating the problem if necessary. <a href="/wiki/User:Gerbrant" title="User:Gerbrant">Shinobu</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Fibonacci/Archive0#c-Gerbrant-2006-03-25T01:31:00.000Z-Heraldic_gradients" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">01:31, 25 March 2006 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Gerbrant-2006-03-25T01:31:00.000Z-Heraldic_gradients"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Gerbrant-2006-03-25T01:31:00.000Z-Heraldic_gradients"></span> </p> <dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Fibonacci-2006-03-26T02:34:00.000Z-Gerbrant-2006-03-25T01:31:00.000Z"></span>Oh, don't worry - I had looked at the source code, and interpreted it wrongly. They do look normal, but more widely spaced than the ones I had done (and this time I'm sure :P). The pattern code is hard to figure out, since you did two patterns (one inside the other), with three consecutive unnecessary horizontal translations. Why was that? --<a href="/wiki/User:Fibonacci" title="User:Fibonacci">Fibonacci</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Fibonacci/Archive0#c-Fibonacci-2006-03-26T02:34:00.000Z-Gerbrant-2006-03-25T01:31:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">02:34, 26 March 2006 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Fibonacci-2006-03-26T02:34:00.000Z-Gerbrant-2006-03-25T01:31:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Fibonacci-2006-03-26T02:34:00.000Z-Gerbrant-2006-03-25T01:31:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Gerbrant-2006-03-25T01:46:00.000Z-Heraldic_gradients"></span>@<i>Was it really necessary?</i>: That depends on your goals. The nice thing is that it is now possible to quickly copy definitions around between SVGs. For instance, when making the fur SVGs I instanciated the paths common to both of them. Not doing it this way will save the size of a <use /> but we will lose important semantic information in the process. As for the central line dividing the shield in a left and right part, I just like it better that way, especially when zoomed in. <a href="/wiki/User:Gerbrant" title="User:Gerbrant">Shinobu</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Fibonacci/Archive0#c-Gerbrant-2006-03-25T01:46:00.000Z-Heraldic_gradients" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">01:46, 25 March 2006 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Gerbrant-2006-03-25T01:46:00.000Z-Heraldic_gradients"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Gerbrant-2006-03-25T01:46:00.000Z-Heraldic_gradients"></span> </p> <dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Fibonacci-2006-03-26T02:34:00.000Z-Gerbrant-2006-03-25T01:46:00.000Z"></span>Still, the original PNG images didn't have those lines. If the intent was to replace the PNG shields with SVG versions, the line should be left out.</dd> <dd>And... sorry, I'm not fully following you. What "important semantic information" would we lose by moving the paths down from defs? --<a href="/wiki/User:Fibonacci" title="User:Fibonacci">Fibonacci</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Fibonacci/Archive0#c-Fibonacci-2006-03-26T02:34:00.000Z-Gerbrant-2006-03-25T01:46:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">02:34, 26 March 2006 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Fibonacci-2006-03-26T02:34:00.000Z-Gerbrant-2006-03-25T01:46:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Fibonacci-2006-03-26T02:34:00.000Z-Gerbrant-2006-03-25T01:46:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Latin_American_National_Anthems" data-mw-thread-id="h-Latin_American_National_Anthems-2006-03-21T17:20:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Latin_American_National_Anthems-2006-03-21T17:20:00.000Z"></span>Latin American National Anthems<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Latin_American_National_Anthems-2006-03-21T17:20:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Fibonacci/Archive0&action=edit&section=41" title="Edit section: Latin American National Anthems"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Chlewey-2006-03-21T17:20:00.000Z-Latin_American_National_Anthems"></span>I have reverted your move for the Colombian National Anthem. The fact is that <i>¡Oh, gloria inmarcesible!</i> is not the official name, nor a commonly used name in Colombia for our national anthem. Last year there was a discussion on Spanish language Wikipedia about the fact that most Latin American National Anthems had as names in Wikipedia the first verse, which is incorrect for most of the anthems. If we need to uniform the list of national anthems we should get the official or most commonly known name which would mostly be "National Anthem of <i><name of the country></i>". </p><p>If the Colombian National Anthem would have a name, this should be the name of the original poem by Núñez which would be something like <i>Oda a Cartagena</i> IIRC. </p><p>— <a href="/wiki/User:Chlewey" title="User:Chlewey">Carlos Th</a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Chlewey" title="User talk:Chlewey">(talk)</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Fibonacci/Archive0#c-Chlewey-2006-03-21T17:20:00.000Z-Latin_American_National_Anthems" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:20, 21 March 2006 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Chlewey-2006-03-21T17:20:00.000Z-Latin_American_National_Anthems"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Chlewey-2006-03-21T17:20:00.000Z-Latin_American_National_Anthems"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Fibonacci-2006-03-22T01:07:00.000Z-Chlewey-2006-03-21T17:20:00.000Z"></span>Still, the vast majority of the national anthems on <a href="/wiki/Category:National_anthems" title="Category:National anthems">this category</a> have as names the first verse. If you think it's incorrect, then you should move all of those anthems too. --<a href="/wiki/User:Fibonacci" title="User:Fibonacci">Fibonacci</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Fibonacci/Archive0#c-Fibonacci-2006-03-22T01:07:00.000Z-Chlewey-2006-03-21T17:20:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">01:07, 22 March 2006 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Fibonacci-2006-03-22T01:07:00.000Z-Chlewey-2006-03-21T17:20:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Fibonacci-2006-03-22T01:07:00.000Z-Chlewey-2006-03-21T17:20:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Chlewey-2006-03-23T14:11:00.000Z-Fibonacci-2006-03-22T01:07:00.000Z"></span>A vast majority but not all of them: <ol><li><a href="/wiki/Argentine_National_Anthem" title="Argentine National Anthem">Argentine National Anthem</a></li> <li><a href="/wiki/Anthem_of_Transnistria" title="Anthem of Transnistria">Anthem of Transnistria</a></li> <li><a href="/wiki/Brazilian_national_anthem" class="mw-redirect" title="Brazilian national anthem">Brazilian national anthem</a> (<a href="https://pt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hino_nacional_do_Brasil" class="extiw" title="pt:Hino nacional do Brasil">Hino nacional do Brasil</a>)</li> <li><a href="/wiki/Himno_Nacional_de_Chile" class="mw-redirect" title="Himno Nacional de Chile">Himno Nacional de Chile</a></li> <li><a href="/wiki/National_Anthem_of_Colombia" title="National Anthem of Colombia">National Anthem of Colombia</a></li> <li><a href="/wiki/National_Anthem_of_El_Salvador" title="National Anthem of El Salvador">National Anthem of El Salvador</a></li> <li><a href="/wiki/National_Anthem_of_Russia" class="mw-redirect" title="National Anthem of Russia">National Anthem of Russia</a> (<a href="https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%93%D0%B8%D0%BC%D0%BD_%D0%A0%D0%BE%D1%81%D1%81%D0%B8%D0%B8" class="extiw" title="ru:Гимн России">Гимн России</a>)</li> <li><a href="/wiki/National_anthem_of_South_Vietnam" class="mw-redirect" title="National anthem of South Vietnam">National anthem of South Vietnam</a></li> <li><a href="/wiki/National_Anthem_of_the_Republic_of_China" title="National Anthem of the Republic of China">National Anthem of the Republic of China</a></li> <li><a href="/wiki/National_Anthem_of_the_Republic_of_Uzbekistan" class="mw-redirect" title="National Anthem of the Republic of Uzbekistan">National Anthem of the Republic of Uzbekistan</a></li> <li><a href="/wiki/National_Anthem_of_the_Soviet_Union" class="mw-redirect" title="National Anthem of the Soviet Union">National Anthem of the Soviet Union</a></li></ol></dd> <dd>Also, comparing to <a href="https://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/" class="extiw" title="es:">eswiki</a> we also have: <ol><li><a href="https://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Himno_Nacional_Argentino" class="extiw" title="es:Himno Nacional Argentino">Himno Nacional Argentino</a></li> <li><a href="https://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Himno_Nacional_Brasile%C3%B1o" class="extiw" title="es:Himno Nacional Brasileño">Himno Nacional Brasileño</a></li> <li><a href="https://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Himno_Nacional_Mexicano" class="extiw" title="es:Himno Nacional Mexicano">Himno Nacional Mexicano</a> (<a href="/wiki/Mexicanos,_al_grito_de_guerra" class="mw-redirect" title="Mexicanos, al grito de guerra">Mexicanos, al grito de guerra</a>)</li> <li><a href="https://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Himno_Nacional_Uruguayo" class="extiw" title="es:Himno Nacional Uruguayo">Himno Nacional Uruguayo</a> (<a href="/wiki/Orientales,_la_Patria_o_la_tumba" class="mw-redirect" title="Orientales, la Patria o la tumba">Orientales, la Patria o la tumba</a>)</li> <li><a href="https://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Himno_Nacional_de_Chile" class="extiw" title="es:Himno Nacional de Chile">Himno Nacional de Chile</a></li> <li><a href="https://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Himno_nacional_de_Colombia" class="extiw" title="es:Himno nacional de Colombia">Himno nacional de Colombia</a></li> <li><a href="https://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Himno_Nacional_de_la_Rep%C3%BAblica_de_Uzbekist%C3%A1n" class="extiw" title="es:Himno Nacional de la República de Uzbekistán">Himno Nacional de la República de Uzbekistán</a></li> <li><a href="https://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Himno_nacional_de_Panam%C3%A1" class="extiw" title="es:Himno nacional de Panamá">Himno nacional de Panamá</a> (<a href="/wiki/Himno_Istme%C3%B1o" title="Himno Istmeño">Himno Istmeño</a>)</li> <li><a href="https://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Himno_Nacional_del_Ecuador" class="extiw" title="es:Himno Nacional del Ecuador">Himno Nacional del Ecuador</a> (and <a href="https://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Salve,_Oh_Patria" class="extiw" title="es:Salve, Oh Patria">es:Salve, Oh Patria</a>)</li> <li><a href="https://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Himno_Nacional_del_Per%C3%BA" class="extiw" title="es:Himno Nacional del Perú">Himno Nacional del Perú</a> (<a href="/wiki/Somos_libres,_se%C3%A1moslo_siempre" class="mw-redirect" title="Somos libres, seámoslo siempre">Somos libres, seámoslo siempre</a>)</li> <li><a href="https://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Himno_de_Belice" class="extiw" title="es:Himno de Belice">Himno de Belice</a> (<a href="/wiki/Land_of_the_Free" class="mw-disambig" title="Land of the Free">Land of the Free</a>, this is probably correct in English)</li> <li><a href="https://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Himno_de_Suiza" class="extiw" title="es:Himno de Suiza">Himno de Suiza</a> (<a href="/wiki/Swiss_Psalm" title="Swiss Psalm">Swiss Psalm</a>: <a href="https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/" class="extiw" title="de:">Schweizerpsalm</a>, <a href="https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cantique_suisse" class="extiw" title="fr:Cantique suisse">Cantique suisse</a>, <a href="https://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Salmo_Svizzero" class="extiw" title="it:Salmo Svizzero">Salmo Svizzero</a>)</li> <li><a href="https://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Himno_de_la_Federaci%C3%B3n_Rusa" class="extiw" title="es:Himno de la Federación Rusa">Himno de la Federación Rusa</a></li> <li><a href="https://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Himno_de_la_Uni%C3%B3n_Sovi%C3%A9tica" class="extiw" title="es:Himno de la Unión Soviética">Himno de la Unión Soviética</a></li></ol></dd> <dd>I cannot be sure how many national anthems are incorrectly named. I for sure know that <i>¡Oh, Gloria inmarcesible!</i> is not the name of the national anthem of Colombia. So I cannot change all of them: some might be correct.</dd> <dd>— <a href="/wiki/User:Chlewey" title="User:Chlewey">Carlos Th</a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Chlewey" title="User talk:Chlewey">(talk)</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Fibonacci/Archive0#c-Chlewey-2006-03-23T14:11:00.000Z-Fibonacci-2006-03-22T01:07:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:11, 23 March 2006 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Chlewey-2006-03-23T14:11:00.000Z-Fibonacci-2006-03-22T01:07:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Chlewey-2006-03-23T14:11:00.000Z-Fibonacci-2006-03-22T01:07:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Template:User_species" data-mw-thread-id="h-Template:User_species-2006-03-21T22:38:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Template:User_species-2006-03-21T22:38:00.000Z"></span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Template:User_species&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Template:User species (page does not exist)">Template:User_species</a><span data-mw-comment-end="h-Template:User_species-2006-03-21T22:38:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Fibonacci/Archive0&action=edit&section=42" title="Edit section: Template:User_species"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Raccoon_Fox-2006-03-21T22:38:00.000Z-Template:User_species"></span>thank you for helping me fix the User_Species template. </p><p><a href="/wiki/User:Raccoon_Fox" title="User:Raccoon Fox">Raccoon Fox</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Fibonacci/Archive0#c-Raccoon_Fox-2006-03-21T22:38:00.000Z-Template:User_species" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:38, 21 March 2006 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Raccoon_Fox-2006-03-21T22:38:00.000Z-Template:User_species"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Raccoon_Fox-2006-03-21T22:38:00.000Z-Template:User_species"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="More_vairs." data-mw-thread-id="h-More_vairs.-2006-03-25T03:34:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-More_vairs.-2006-03-25T03:34:00.000Z"></span>More vairs.<span data-mw-comment-end="h-More_vairs.-2006-03-25T03:34:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Fibonacci/Archive0&action=edit&section=43" title="Edit section: More vairs."><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Gerbrant-2006-03-25T03:34:00.000Z-More_vairs."></span><span class="mw-default-size" typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Heraldic_Shield_Counter-vair.svg" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/c/cc/Heraldic_Shield_Counter-vair.svg/54px-Heraldic_Shield_Counter-vair.svg.png" decoding="async" width="54" height="64" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/c/cc/Heraldic_Shield_Counter-vair.svg/81px-Heraldic_Shield_Counter-vair.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/c/cc/Heraldic_Shield_Counter-vair.svg/108px-Heraldic_Shield_Counter-vair.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="54" data-file-height="64"/></a></span> <span class="mw-default-size" typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Heraldic_Shield_Vair_in_pale.svg" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/c/c8/Heraldic_Shield_Vair_in_pale.svg/54px-Heraldic_Shield_Vair_in_pale.svg.png" decoding="async" width="54" height="64" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/c/c8/Heraldic_Shield_Vair_in_pale.svg/81px-Heraldic_Shield_Vair_in_pale.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/c/c8/Heraldic_Shield_Vair_in_pale.svg/108px-Heraldic_Shield_Vair_in_pale.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="54" data-file-height="64"/></a></span> <span class="mw-default-size" typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Heraldic_Shield_Vair_en_pointe.svg" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/e3/Heraldic_Shield_Vair_en_pointe.svg/54px-Heraldic_Shield_Vair_en_pointe.svg.png" decoding="async" width="54" height="64" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/e3/Heraldic_Shield_Vair_en_pointe.svg/81px-Heraldic_Shield_Vair_en_pointe.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/e3/Heraldic_Shield_Vair_en_pointe.svg/108px-Heraldic_Shield_Vair_en_pointe.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="54" data-file-height="64"/></a></span> <a href="/wiki/User:Gerbrant" title="User:Gerbrant">Shinobu</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Fibonacci/Archive0#c-Gerbrant-2006-03-25T03:34:00.000Z-More_vairs." class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">03:34, 25 March 2006 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Gerbrant-2006-03-25T03:34:00.000Z-More_vairs."><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Gerbrant-2006-03-25T03:34:00.000Z-More_vairs."></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Orange_/_tenne" data-mw-thread-id="h-Orange_/_tenne-2006-03-25T09:38:00.000Z"><span id="Orange_.2F_tenne"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Orange_/_tenne-2006-03-25T09:38:00.000Z"></span>Orange / tenne<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Orange_/_tenne-2006-03-25T09:38:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Fibonacci/Archive0&action=edit&section=44" title="Edit section: Orange / tenne"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Fibonacci-2006-03-26T02:37:00.000Z-Orange_/_tenne"></span>Whether orange is considered equal to tenne depends on where you live, apparently. Here it's considered a different colour. </p> <dl><dd>With a different hatching, of course. --<a href="/wiki/User:Fibonacci" title="User:Fibonacci">Fibonacci</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Fibonacci/Archive0#c-Fibonacci-2006-03-26T02:37:00.000Z-Orange_/_tenne" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">02:37, 26 March 2006 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Fibonacci-2006-03-26T02:37:00.000Z-Orange_/_tenne"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Fibonacci-2006-03-26T02:37:00.000Z-Orange_/_tenne"></span></dd></dl> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Fibonacci-2006-03-26T02:37:00.000Z-Orange_/_tenne-1"></span>As for the hatching, tenne ( |:| ) was listed as gules ( ||| ) + gold ( ::: ). </p><p>I vaguely rember having seen rose as ( ¦¦¦ ) so it makes kind of sense to have orange as ( !¡! ). Although that's probably just a pons asinorum. </p> <dl><dd>Wouldn't it make more sense to have orange as gules + gold? --<a href="/wiki/User:Fibonacci" title="User:Fibonacci">Fibonacci</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Fibonacci/Archive0#c-Fibonacci-2006-03-26T02:37:00.000Z-Orange_/_tenne-1" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">02:37, 26 March 2006 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Fibonacci-2006-03-26T02:37:00.000Z-Orange_/_tenne-1"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Fibonacci-2006-03-26T02:37:00.000Z-Orange_/_tenne-1"></span></dd></dl> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Gerbrant-2006-03-25T09:38:00.000Z-Orange_/_tenne"></span>It also listed sanguine as being tricked as purpure. I propose we forgo this particular webpage for now, in want of a more comprehensive index. <a href="/wiki/User:Gerbrant" title="User:Gerbrant">Shinobu</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Fibonacci/Archive0#c-Gerbrant-2006-03-25T09:38:00.000Z-Orange_/_tenne" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:38, 25 March 2006 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Gerbrant-2006-03-25T09:38:00.000Z-Orange_/_tenne"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Gerbrant-2006-03-25T09:38:00.000Z-Orange_/_tenne"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Fibonacci-2006-03-26T02:37:00.000Z-Gerbrant-2006-03-25T09:38:00.000Z"></span>I agree completely. --<a href="/wiki/User:Fibonacci" title="User:Fibonacci">Fibonacci</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Fibonacci/Archive0#c-Fibonacci-2006-03-26T02:37:00.000Z-Gerbrant-2006-03-25T09:38:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">02:37, 26 March 2006 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Fibonacci-2006-03-26T02:37:00.000Z-Gerbrant-2006-03-25T09:38:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Fibonacci-2006-03-26T02:37:00.000Z-Gerbrant-2006-03-25T09:38:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Fibonacci-2006-03-26T17:01:00.000Z-Orange_/_tenne"></span>@<i>gules + gold</i>: Yes, but that was already used for tenne. So lighter than tenne, and lighter red, would actually make some twisted kind of sense. </p> <dl><dd>Maybe, but would not make orange. --<a href="/wiki/User:Fibonacci" title="User:Fibonacci">Fibonacci</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Fibonacci/Archive0#c-Fibonacci-2006-03-26T17:01:00.000Z-Orange_/_tenne" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:01, 26 March 2006 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Fibonacci-2006-03-26T17:01:00.000Z-Orange_/_tenne"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Fibonacci-2006-03-26T17:01:00.000Z-Orange_/_tenne"></span></dd></dl> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Gerbrant-2006-03-26T09:01:00.000Z-Orange_/_tenne"></span>But note that these are just pontes asinorum anyway - some of the hatchings don't make any sense no matter what way you look at it. <a href="/wiki/User:Gerbrant" title="User:Gerbrant">Shinobu</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Fibonacci/Archive0#c-Gerbrant-2006-03-26T09:01:00.000Z-Orange_/_tenne" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:01, 26 March 2006 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Gerbrant-2006-03-26T09:01:00.000Z-Orange_/_tenne"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Gerbrant-2006-03-26T09:01:00.000Z-Orange_/_tenne"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Fibonacci-2006-03-26T17:01:00.000Z-Gerbrant-2006-03-26T09:01:00.000Z"></span>Now *that* does make much more sense! --<a href="/wiki/User:Fibonacci" title="User:Fibonacci">Fibonacci</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Fibonacci/Archive0#c-Fibonacci-2006-03-26T17:01:00.000Z-Gerbrant-2006-03-26T09:01:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:01, 26 March 2006 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Fibonacci-2006-03-26T17:01:00.000Z-Gerbrant-2006-03-26T09:01:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Fibonacci-2006-03-26T17:01:00.000Z-Gerbrant-2006-03-26T09:01:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Re:_your_SVG_questions" data-mw-thread-id="h-Re:_your_SVG_questions-2006-03-26T08:57:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Re:_your_SVG_questions-2006-03-26T08:57:00.000Z"></span>Re: your SVG questions<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Re:_your_SVG_questions-2006-03-26T08:57:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Fibonacci/Archive0&action=edit&section=45" title="Edit section: Re: your SVG questions"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Fibonacci-2006-03-26T17:01:00.000Z-Re:_your_SVG_questions"></span>(I'm splitting the thread because it has become a bit of a mess.) </p><p>First of all, the three translations were not strictly necessary. The cause is easy to spot: when drawing the shield, I drew the pattern next to the shield (so I could select and change the pattern without interfering the bits of shield that were already finished) and then I clicked "objects to pattern". That accounts for two translations. They can in principle be done away with. Low priority. </p><p>The last one was to line the hatching up in such a way that it looked best. I could have defined the pattern in a translated way, but that would have been much more messy. Also, I wanted a logical origin in the pattern. </p> <dl><dd>So I'm allowed to cut them off, right? ;) --<a href="/wiki/User:Fibonacci" title="User:Fibonacci">Fibonacci</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Fibonacci/Archive0#c-Fibonacci-2006-03-26T17:01:00.000Z-Re:_your_SVG_questions" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:01, 26 March 2006 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Fibonacci-2006-03-26T17:01:00.000Z-Re:_your_SVG_questions"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Fibonacci-2006-03-26T17:01:00.000Z-Re:_your_SVG_questions"></span></dd></dl> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Fibonacci-2006-03-26T17:01:00.000Z-Re:_your_SVG_questions-1"></span>As for the important semantic information, what I mean is that it is now very easy to keep stuff consistent among different files. The impact of moving paths and/or patterns between def-sections and the body is not apparent when looking at just a single file. </p><p>However these are not just single files. They all share a common, named defs section. This makes it very easy for software to keep things consistent. So if we change a definition in one file, software can see that this corresponds with a definition in the library and change it there too. Then you can find all images that use that library and change it back. </p><p>Always remember that <h1>Title</h1> contains more information than <p style=font-weight:bold;font-size:200%>Title</p>. </p> <dl><dd>Because not every HTML file (in fact, almost no HTML file) comes with a defs (or style) section specifying that <code>h1</code> is equivalent to <code>style="font-weight:bold;font-size:200%"</code>. Even if it comes with one, if there's a lot of files using the same defs, you can put 'em all in a separate CSS file, and change all of your original files to read from that. Not here, for every file comes with its own defs section. --<a href="/wiki/User:Fibonacci" title="User:Fibonacci">Fibonacci</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Fibonacci/Archive0#c-Fibonacci-2006-03-26T17:01:00.000Z-Re:_your_SVG_questions-1" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:01, 26 March 2006 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Fibonacci-2006-03-26T17:01:00.000Z-Re:_your_SVG_questions-1"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Fibonacci-2006-03-26T17:01:00.000Z-Re:_your_SVG_questions-1"></span></dd></dl> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Fibonacci-2006-03-26T17:01:00.000Z-Re:_your_SVG_questions-2"></span>As for the line between the left and right half, again I just like it better that way. If you think that inhibits the possibility to use them as replacements for the PNGs then by all means remove the "there is a replacement available" tag. </p> <dl><dd>Not that it inhibits the possibility, but I think they look better without the central line. Zoom in on the bottom part of the shield, and you'll notice it has become asymmetrical because of the line. --<a href="/wiki/User:Fibonacci" title="User:Fibonacci">Fibonacci</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Fibonacci/Archive0#c-Fibonacci-2006-03-26T17:01:00.000Z-Re:_your_SVG_questions-2" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:01, 26 March 2006 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Fibonacci-2006-03-26T17:01:00.000Z-Re:_your_SVG_questions-2"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Fibonacci-2006-03-26T17:01:00.000Z-Re:_your_SVG_questions-2"></span></dd></dl> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Fibonacci-2006-03-26T17:01:00.000Z-Re:_your_SVG_questions-3"></span>I also made some of the colours a bit livelyer and changed the shape of the field somewhat. And I made the hatching wider (relatively speaking) for clarity. </p> <dl><dd>Maybe at that size it is justified, but keep in mind that the shields will never, or almost never, be used that tiny, and at 144px the lines look better if they are closely packed together:</dd> <dd><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Heraldic_Shield_Gules.svg" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/75/Heraldic_Shield_Gules.svg/144px-Heraldic_Shield_Gules.svg.png" decoding="async" width="144" height="171" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/75/Heraldic_Shield_Gules.svg/216px-Heraldic_Shield_Gules.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/75/Heraldic_Shield_Gules.svg/288px-Heraldic_Shield_Gules.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="54" data-file-height="64"/></a></span></dd></dl> <p>All things I did because it looked nicer or clearer to me. All things that, I think, don't detract from their ability to function as replacements for the PNGs. </p> <dl><dd>Okay... but they look better that way, don't you think? --<a href="/wiki/User:Fibonacci" title="User:Fibonacci">Fibonacci</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Fibonacci/Archive0#c-Fibonacci-2006-03-26T17:01:00.000Z-Re:_your_SVG_questions-3" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:01, 26 March 2006 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Fibonacci-2006-03-26T17:01:00.000Z-Re:_your_SVG_questions-3"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Fibonacci-2006-03-26T17:01:00.000Z-Re:_your_SVG_questions-3"></span></dd></dl> <p><b><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Gerbrant-2006-03-26T08:57:00.000Z-Re:_your_SVG_questions"></span>Note:</b> while I realize that it's easy for software to find all SVGs with the Herald-defs on my disk, I realize that this is not that easy on wiki. Perhaps I should create a category to facilitate finding the files involved. <a href="/wiki/User:Gerbrant" title="User:Gerbrant">Shinobu</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Fibonacci/Archive0#c-Gerbrant-2006-03-26T08:57:00.000Z-Re:_your_SVG_questions" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">08:57, 26 March 2006 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Gerbrant-2006-03-26T08:57:00.000Z-Re:_your_SVG_questions"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Gerbrant-2006-03-26T08:57:00.000Z-Re:_your_SVG_questions"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Fibonacci-2006-03-26T17:01:00.000Z-Gerbrant-2006-03-26T08:57:00.000Z"></span>Good idea! --<a href="/wiki/User:Fibonacci" title="User:Fibonacci">Fibonacci</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Fibonacci/Archive0#c-Fibonacci-2006-03-26T17:01:00.000Z-Gerbrant-2006-03-26T08:57:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:01, 26 March 2006 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Fibonacci-2006-03-26T17:01:00.000Z-Gerbrant-2006-03-26T08:57:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Fibonacci-2006-03-26T17:01:00.000Z-Gerbrant-2006-03-26T08:57:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Fibonacci-2006-04-02T18:35:00.000Z-Re:_your_SVG_questions"></span>@<i>So I'm allowed to cut them off, right?</i>: I suppose, although I recommend keeping the final transformation. Easier maintenance that way. </p> <dl><dd>... excuse me? Wouldn't it be easier without any transformations at all? --<a href="/wiki/User:Fibonacci" title="User:Fibonacci">Fibonacci</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Fibonacci/Archive0#c-Fibonacci-2006-04-02T18:35:00.000Z-Re:_your_SVG_questions" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:35, 2 April 2006 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Fibonacci-2006-04-02T18:35:00.000Z-Re:_your_SVG_questions"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Fibonacci-2006-04-02T18:35:00.000Z-Re:_your_SVG_questions"></span></dd></dl> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Fibonacci-2006-04-02T18:35:00.000Z-Re:_your_SVG_questions-1"></span>@<i>Because not every HTML file</i>...: That's not what I meant, and completely irrelevant. </p> <dl><dd>But that is why people use <code><h1></code> instead of <code><p style=whatever></code>. Or what did you mean, then? --<a href="/wiki/User:Fibonacci" title="User:Fibonacci">Fibonacci</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Fibonacci/Archive0#c-Fibonacci-2006-04-02T18:35:00.000Z-Re:_your_SVG_questions-1" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:35, 2 April 2006 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Fibonacci-2006-04-02T18:35:00.000Z-Re:_your_SVG_questions-1"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Fibonacci-2006-04-02T18:35:00.000Z-Re:_your_SVG_questions-1"></span></dd></dl> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Fibonacci-2006-04-02T18:35:00.000Z-Re:_your_SVG_questions-2"></span>@<i>you'll notice it has become asymmetrical because of the line</i>: no, it hasn't. I zoomed in using three viewers, including the one Wikipedia uses, I zoomed in on those using a magnifier tool, and at all zoom-levels it is pixel-perfect symmetrical. </p> <dl><dd>I zoomed in at the base (vertex?) using Inkscape, and the asymmetry is clear. --<a href="/wiki/User:Fibonacci" title="User:Fibonacci">Fibonacci</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Fibonacci/Archive0#c-Fibonacci-2006-04-02T18:35:00.000Z-Re:_your_SVG_questions-2" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:35, 2 April 2006 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Fibonacci-2006-04-02T18:35:00.000Z-Re:_your_SVG_questions-2"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Fibonacci-2006-04-02T18:35:00.000Z-Re:_your_SVG_questions-2"></span></dd></dl> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Fibonacci-2006-04-02T18:35:00.000Z-Re:_your_SVG_questions-3"></span>@<i>Maybe at that size it is justified</i>: It's justified at any size, as it's largely the relative size difference that was the issue. Personally I think they are quite okay at 64px (height) and nothing can be gained by enlarging them, but if you do, you might try 128px (wide: 108px): as you can see above, that looks very much okay. For every spacing interval, no matter if it's packed close or not, you can specify the image size in such a way that it doesn't look too good. That was just what you did by specifying 144px as it's size. </p> <dl><dd>That's not what I meant. Those shields will be most likely be used at 144px, not 64px. There's no need for enlarging the original images - they aren't SVGs for nothings, are they? But at the size they will most likely be used, they look horrible. -<a href="/wiki/User:Fibonacci" title="User:Fibonacci">Fibonacci</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Fibonacci/Archive0#c-Fibonacci-2006-04-02T18:35:00.000Z-Re:_your_SVG_questions-3" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:35, 2 April 2006 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Fibonacci-2006-04-02T18:35:00.000Z-Re:_your_SVG_questions-3"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Fibonacci-2006-04-02T18:35:00.000Z-Re:_your_SVG_questions-3"></span></dd></dl> <p><a href="/wiki/User:Gerbrant" title="User:Gerbrant"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Gerbrant-2006-03-28T11:47:00.000Z-Re:_your_SVG_questions"></span>Shinobu</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Fibonacci/Archive0#c-Gerbrant-2006-03-28T11:47:00.000Z-Re:_your_SVG_questions" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:47, 28 March 2006 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Gerbrant-2006-03-28T11:47:00.000Z-Re:_your_SVG_questions"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Gerbrant-2006-03-28T11:47:00.000Z-Re:_your_SVG_questions"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Fibonacci-2006-04-02T18:35:00.000Z-Gerbrant-2006-03-28T11:47:00.000Z"></span>Oh, and sorry for the late reply - I was doing homework (I can't delay it forever, can I? Not that I want to do it, though :P). --<a href="/wiki/User:Fibonacci" title="User:Fibonacci">Fibonacci</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Fibonacci/Archive0#c-Fibonacci-2006-04-02T18:35:00.000Z-Gerbrant-2006-03-28T11:47:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:35, 2 April 2006 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Fibonacci-2006-04-02T18:35:00.000Z-Gerbrant-2006-03-28T11:47:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Fibonacci-2006-04-02T18:35:00.000Z-Gerbrant-2006-03-28T11:47:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <hr/> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Gerbrant-2006-05-19T00:58:00.000Z-Re:_your_SVG_questions"></span>I've been forced to take a short break of wikiing; I think I've got more time now, so I'll get back to you ASAP. <a href="/wiki/User:Gerbrant" title="User:Gerbrant">Shinobu</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Fibonacci/Archive0#c-Gerbrant-2006-05-19T00:58:00.000Z-Re:_your_SVG_questions" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:58, 19 May 2006 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Gerbrant-2006-05-19T00:58:00.000Z-Re:_your_SVG_questions"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Gerbrant-2006-05-19T00:58:00.000Z-Re:_your_SVG_questions"></span> </p><p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Gerbrant-2006-05-24T13:02:00.000Z-Re:_your_SVG_questions"></span>ASAP turned out to be a bit later than I hoped. Anyway, here goes: </p><p>@<i>Good idea!</i>: I'll look into it. </p><p>@<i>Wouldn't it be easier without any transformations at all?</i>: Not necessarily. Suppose you define a certain pattern. Suppose you use it in two places, but you need to nudge it around a bit to avoid clashes with surrounding geometry. Suppose you change the pattern a bit (to be more efficient, render more reliably, etc.). If you have kept the final translation you only need to update one pattern, otherwise you'll need to update two entirely different patterns. Also that way you would lose the semantic information that the patterns are the same. </p><p>@<i>But that is why people use <code><h1></code> instead of <code><p style=whatever></code>.</i>: No, not really. It's about abstraction - h1 says heading, p says paragraph. That you can split of your stylesheets is a nice benefit, and would not be possible without it, but it's not the primary reason. </p><p>@<i>I zoomed in at the base (vertex?) using Inkscape, and the asymmetry is clear.</i>: I zoomed in both using Wikipedia's rasterizer, Inkscape .43, and Adobe's rasterizer, and as I said, they're all pixel-perfect symmetrical, as they should be. </p><p>@<i>most likely be used at 144px</i>: No. Either the image is linked without size specifications at all (as the png's were) and it will end up at it's original size, at which size it of course looks okay, or it will be thumb-ed, and then the size is (and should be) dependent on user preferences (defaults at 180px, I think). If we plan to thumb them, instead of the way we do it now, it may be a good idea to resize them to look as okay as possible at Wikipedia's default thumb sizes - and to give them a bit of padding, so they don't look so constrained in their little boxes. </p><p><a href="/wiki/User:Gerbrant" title="User:Gerbrant">Shinobu</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Fibonacci/Archive0#c-Gerbrant-2006-05-24T13:02:00.000Z-Re:_your_SVG_questions" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:02, 24 May 2006 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Gerbrant-2006-05-24T13:02:00.000Z-Re:_your_SVG_questions"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Gerbrant-2006-05-24T13:02:00.000Z-Re:_your_SVG_questions"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Image_Tagging_Image:CompactFluorescentLightBulb.png" data-mw-thread-id="h-Image_Tagging_Image:CompactFluorescentLightBulb.png-2006-04-02T14:19:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Image_Tagging_Image:CompactFluorescentLightBulb.png-2006-04-02T14:19:00.000Z"></span>Image Tagging <a href="/w/index.php?title=File:CompactFluorescentLightBulb.png&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="File:CompactFluorescentLightBulb.png (page does not exist)">Image:CompactFluorescentLightBulb.png</a><span data-mw-comment-end="h-Image_Tagging_Image:CompactFluorescentLightBulb.png-2006-04-02T14:19:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Fibonacci/Archive0&action=edit&section=46" title="Edit section: Image Tagging Image:CompactFluorescentLightBulb.png"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <table align="CENTER" style="background-color:#FFFFFF; border:8px solid #FF0000; padding:5px;"> <tbody><tr> <td><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Nv8200p-2006-04-02T14:19:00.000Z-Image_Tagging_Image:CompactFluorescentLightBulb.png"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Nuvola_apps_important.svg" class="mw-file-description" title="Warning sign"><img alt="Warning sign" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/f/f7/Nuvola_apps_important.svg/30px-Nuvola_apps_important.svg.png" decoding="async" width="30" height="25" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/f/f7/Nuvola_apps_important.svg/45px-Nuvola_apps_important.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/f/f7/Nuvola_apps_important.svg/60px-Nuvola_apps_important.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="600" data-file-height="500"/></a></span> </td> <td><div class="center" style="width:auto; margin-left:auto; margin-right:auto;"><span style="font-size:120%">This media may be <b>deleted</b>.</span></div> </td></tr></tbody></table> <p>Thanks for uploading <b><a href="/w/index.php?title=File:CompactFluorescentLightBulb.png&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="File:CompactFluorescentLightBulb.png (page does not exist)">Image:CompactFluorescentLightBulb.png</a></b>. I notice the 'image' page currently doesn't specify who created the content, so the <a href="/wiki/Copyright" title="Copyright">copyright</a> status is unclear. If you have not created this media yourself then there needs to be an argument why we have the right to use the media on Wikipedia (see copyright tagging below). If you have not created the media yourself then it needs to be specified where it was found, i.e., in most cases link to the website where it was taken from, and the terms of use for content from that page. </p><p>If the media also doesn't have a copyright tag then one should be added. If you created/took the picture, audio, or video then the <span class="nowrap">{{</span><a href="/wiki/Template:GFDL-self" title="Template:GFDL-self">GFDL-self</a><span class="nowrap">}}</span> tag can be used to release it under the <a href="/wiki/GFDL" class="mw-redirect" title="GFDL">GFDL</a>. If you believe the media qualifies as fair use, consider reading <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Fair_use" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:Fair use">fair use</a>, and then use a tag such as <span class="nowrap">{{<a href="/wiki/Template:Non-free_fair_use_in" class="mw-redirect" title="Template:Non-free fair use in">Non-free fair use in</a>|article name}}</span> or one of the other tags listed at <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Image_copyright_tags#Fair_use" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:Image copyright tags">Wikipedia:Image copyright tags#Fair_use</a>. See <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Image_copyright_tags" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:Image copyright tags">Wikipedia:Image copyright tags</a> for the full list of copyright tags that you can use. </p><p>If you have uploaded other media, consider checking that you have specified their source and copyright tagged them, too. You can find a list of 'image' pages you have edited by clicking on the "<a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Fibonacci/Archive0" title="Special:Contributions/Fibonacci/Archive0">my contributions</a>" link (it is located at the very top of any Wikipedia page when you are logged in), and then selecting "Image" from the dropdown box. Note that any unsourced and untagged images will be deleted one week after they have been uploaded, as described on <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Criteria_for_speedy_deletion#Images.2FMedia" title="Wikipedia:Criteria for speedy deletion">criteria for speedy deletion</a>. If you have any questions please ask them at the <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Image_legality_questions" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:Image legality questions">Image legality questions page</a>. Thank you. <a href="/wiki/User:Nv8200p" class="mw-redirect" title="User:Nv8200p">Nv8200p</a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Nv8200p" class="mw-redirect" title="User talk:Nv8200p">talk</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Fibonacci/Archive0#c-Nv8200p-2006-04-02T14:19:00.000Z-Image_Tagging_Image:CompactFluorescentLightBulb.png" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:19, 2 April 2006 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Nv8200p-2006-04-02T14:19:00.000Z-Image_Tagging_Image:CompactFluorescentLightBulb.png"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Nv8200p-2006-04-02T14:19:00.000Z-Image_Tagging_Image:CompactFluorescentLightBulb.png"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-JabberWok-2006-04-02T20:21:00.000Z-Nv8200p-2006-04-02T14:19:00.000Z"></span>Hey there Fibonacci, yeah I uploaded the origional jpg. The <a href="/w/index.php?title=File:CompactFluorescentLightBulb.png&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="File:CompactFluorescentLightBulb.png (page does not exist)">Image:CompactFluorescentLightBulb.png</a> image as well as the <a href="/wiki/File:IncandescentLightBulb.png" title="File:IncandescentLightBulb.png">Image:IncandescentLightBulb.png</a> image both came from a website that sold light bulbs. I'm going to have to do some searching on <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="http://www.archive.org/web/web.php">The Wayback Machine</a> to find which site it came from again because I know that they website I took them from began using better, bigger images of light bulbs within weeks of me downloading those two images. The website may have been <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="http://www.1000bulbs.com">www.1000bulbs.com</a>. <a href="/wiki/User:JabberWok" title="User:JabberWok">JabberWok</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Fibonacci/Archive0#c-JabberWok-2006-04-02T20:21:00.000Z-Nv8200p-2006-04-02T14:19:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:21, 2 April 2006 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-JabberWok-2006-04-02T20:21:00.000Z-Nv8200p-2006-04-02T14:19:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-JabberWok-2006-04-02T20:21:00.000Z-Nv8200p-2006-04-02T14:19:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Nv8200p-2006-04-06T19:08:00.000Z-JabberWok-2006-04-02T20:21:00.000Z"></span>I have listed this image at <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:PUI" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:PUI">WP:PUI</a>. There is no evidence that the copyright holder allowed release of this image into the public domain. There is a free image available at <a href="/wiki/File:CompactFluorescentLightBulb.jpg" title="File:CompactFluorescentLightBulb.jpg">Image:CompactFluorescentLightBulb.jpg</a> that could be cropped and converted. -<a href="/wiki/User:Nv8200p" class="mw-redirect" title="User:Nv8200p">Nv8200p</a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Nv8200p" class="mw-redirect" title="User talk:Nv8200p">talk</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Fibonacci/Archive0#c-Nv8200p-2006-04-06T19:08:00.000Z-JabberWok-2006-04-02T20:21:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:08, 6 April 2006 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Nv8200p-2006-04-06T19:08:00.000Z-JabberWok-2006-04-02T20:21:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Nv8200p-2006-04-06T19:08:00.000Z-JabberWok-2006-04-02T20:21:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Rock_Nacional_2" data-mw-thread-id="h-Rock_Nacional_2-2006-04-02T19:38:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Rock_Nacional_2-2006-04-02T19:38:00.000Z"></span>Rock Nacional<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Rock_Nacional_2-2006-04-02T19:38:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Fibonacci/Archive0&action=edit&section=47" title="Edit section: Rock Nacional"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Fibonacci-2006-04-02T19:38:00.000Z-Rock_Nacional_2"></span>Hello, </p><p>Why did you keep the <a href="/wiki/Rock_Nacional" class="mw-redirect" title="Rock Nacional">Rock Nacional</a> → <a href="/wiki/Argentine_rock" title="Argentine rock">Argentine rock</a> redirect, which was nominated for deletion? With two votes for and one against deletion, it should have been deleted.<br/> Beardo does not "seem to know what he's talking about", he is clearly speculating. Besides, I know that the term is widely used in many other Spanish-speaking countries to refer to the national rock music/scene - in Colombia, for example.<br/> And the redirect on es: was recently deleted for the same reasons I nominated this one. --<a href="/wiki/User:Fibonacci" title="User:Fibonacci">Fibonacci</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Fibonacci/Archive0#c-Fibonacci-2006-04-02T19:38:00.000Z-Rock_Nacional_2" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:38, 2 April 2006 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Fibonacci-2006-04-02T19:38:00.000Z-Rock_Nacional_2"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Fibonacci-2006-04-02T19:38:00.000Z-Rock_Nacional_2"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Fibonacci-2006-04-02T19:52:00.000Z-Fibonacci-2006-04-02T19:38:00.000Z"></span>In that case, the best solution would probably be to <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Rock_Nacional&action=edit">change it</a> into an article explaining the meaning of the term, including what you've just told me, or even just a disambiguation page with a bullet list of links to articles about rock music in various Spanish-speaking countries. — <small>Apr. 2, '06</small> <span class="plainlinks" style="font-family:monospace, monospace;"><b>[19:43] <<a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Freakofnurture">freakofnur<sub>x</sub>ture</a><a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/freakofnurture" title="Special:Contributions/freakofnurture">|</a><a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Freakofnurture&action=edit&section=new">talk</a>></b></span></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd>Should we also make <a href="/w/index.php?title=National_rock&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="National rock (page does not exist)">national rock</a> a disambig page with a bullet list of links to <a href="/wiki/American_rock" title="American rock">American rock</a>, <a href="/wiki/Australian_rock" class="mw-redirect" title="Australian rock">Australian rock</a>, <a href="/wiki/Canadian_rock" class="mw-redirect" title="Canadian rock">Canadian rock</a>, <a href="/wiki/Irish_rock" class="mw-redirect" title="Irish rock">Irish rock</a>, <a href="/wiki/Kiwi_rock" class="mw-redirect" title="Kiwi rock">Kiwi rock</a>, <a href="/wiki/British_rock" class="mw-redirect" title="British rock">British rock</a>? If not, why not? --<a href="/wiki/User:Fibonacci" title="User:Fibonacci">Fibonacci</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Fibonacci/Archive0#c-Fibonacci-2006-04-02T19:52:00.000Z-Fibonacci-2006-04-02T19:38:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:52, 2 April 2006 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Fibonacci-2006-04-02T19:52:00.000Z-Fibonacci-2006-04-02T19:38:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Fibonacci-2006-04-02T19:52:00.000Z-Fibonacci-2006-04-02T19:38:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Fibonacci-2006-04-02T20:11:00.000Z-Fibonacci-2006-04-02T19:52:00.000Z"></span>You've stated above that the term "Rock Nacional" is "widely used in many other Spanish-speaking countries". I have no reason to doubt you. I do know that the term "national rock" is not widely used in English-speaking countries. Perhaps it should just be redirected to <a href="/wiki/Latin_American_music" class="mw-redirect" title="Latin American music">Latin American music</a> (and add an explanation of the term there instead), or maybe, more broadly, to an article that summarizes <a href="/wiki/Category:Rock_music_by_nationality" title="Category:Rock music by nationality">rock music by nationality</a> Think about the readers for a bit. If somebody searches for "Rock Nacional" what would be the best possible result? Certainly not a blank screen. — <small>Apr. 2, '06</small> <span class="plainlinks" style="font-family:monospace, monospace;"><b>[20:04] <<a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Freakofnurture">freakofnur<sub>x</sub>ture</a><a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/freakofnurture" title="Special:Contributions/freakofnurture">|</a><a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Freakofnurture&action=edit&section=new">talk</a>></b></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd>Would a reader search for Rock Nacional in the first place? Maybe on es:, but not here. And even then, I think it's more likely that they will search for the specific nationality. <a href="/w/index.php?title=Televisi%C3%B3n_nacional&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Televisión nacional (page does not exist)">Televisión nacional</a> (Spanish for "national TV") neither redirects anywhere, nor is a disambig page, yet "rock nacional" (I Can't Think Of Any Reasons For Using Uppercase Initial Letters) is an even less likely search query than that. --<a href="/wiki/User:Fibonacci" title="User:Fibonacci">Fibonacci</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Fibonacci/Archive0#c-Fibonacci-2006-04-02T20:11:00.000Z-Fibonacci-2006-04-02T19:52:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:11, 2 April 2006 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Fibonacci-2006-04-02T20:11:00.000Z-Fibonacci-2006-04-02T19:52:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Fibonacci-2006-04-02T20:11:00.000Z-Fibonacci-2006-04-02T19:52:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl><p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-F3rn4nd0-2006-04-15T23:59:00.000Z-Rock_Nacional_2"></span> -- </p><div class="wikipediauserbox" style="float:left;border:1px solid #000;margin:1px;width:238px"><table role="presentation" style="border-collapse:collapse;width:238px;margin-bottom:0;margin-top:0;background:#41;color:inherit"><tbody><tr><td style="border:0;width:45px;height:45px;background:#fff;text-align:center;font-size:12pt;font-weight:bold;color:#222;padding:0 1px 0 0;line-height:1.25em;vertical-align:middle"><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:A_small_cup_of_coffee.JPG" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/4/45/A_small_cup_of_coffee.JPG/65px-A_small_cup_of_coffee.JPG" decoding="async" width="65" height="49" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/4/45/A_small_cup_of_coffee.JPG/98px-A_small_cup_of_coffee.JPG 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/4/45/A_small_cup_of_coffee.JPG/130px-A_small_cup_of_coffee.JPG 2x" data-file-width="1600" data-file-height="1200"/></a></span></td><td style="border:0;text-align:left;font-size:8pt;padding:0 4px 0 4px;height:45px;line-height:1.25em;color:dark-khaki;vertical-align:middle">This user is a proud <a href="/wiki/Colombia" title="Colombia">Colombian</a> and encourages you to try the best <a href="/wiki/Coffee" title="Coffee">coffee</a> in the World!</td></tr></tbody></table></div> <p><a href="/wiki/User:F3rn4nd0" class="mw-redirect" title="User:F3rn4nd0">Don Quijote's Sancho</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Fibonacci/Archive0#c-F3rn4nd0-2006-04-15T23:59:00.000Z-Rock_Nacional_2" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:59, 15 April 2006 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-F3rn4nd0-2006-04-15T23:59:00.000Z-Rock_Nacional_2"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-F3rn4nd0-2006-04-15T23:59:00.000Z-Rock_Nacional_2"></span> </p><div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="TWO_Questions" data-mw-thread-id="h-TWO_Questions-2006-04-20T14:44:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-TWO_Questions-2006-04-20T14:44:00.000Z"></span>TWO Questions<span data-mw-comment-end="h-TWO_Questions-2006-04-20T14:44:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Fibonacci/Archive0&action=edit&section=48" title="Edit section: TWO Questions"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Oscarín_Aino-2006-04-20T14:44:00.000Z-TWO_Questions"></span>Hola Fibo, Le vengo a decir dos cositas: </p> <ul><li>Si esta todavia en Dinamo, Hable con las copresidentes Angela y Julie para lo de la página de Internet de ese grupo con Software Libre. Sobre mi retiro del mismo se lo comento despues.</li></ul> <ul><li>En el Esperanto ¿Hay groserias o madrazos?</li></ul> <p>Que pena molestarlo, pero ojala le echare una visita a su casa. Nos vemos. --<a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Oscar%C3%ADn_Aino&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Oscarín Aino (page does not exist)">Oscarín Aino</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Fibonacci/Archive0#c-Oscarín_Aino-2006-04-20T14:44:00.000Z-TWO_Questions" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:44, 20 April 2006 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Oscarín_Aino-2006-04-20T14:44:00.000Z-TWO_Questions"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Oscarín_Aino-2006-04-20T14:44:00.000Z-TWO_Questions"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Image_copyright_problem_with_Image:Zoso.png" data-mw-thread-id="h-Image_copyright_problem_with_Image:Zoso.png-2006-04-23T13:50:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Image_copyright_problem_with_Image:Zoso.png-2006-04-23T13:50:00.000Z"></span>Image copyright problem with Image:Zoso.png<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Image_copyright_problem_with_Image:Zoso.png-2006-04-23T13:50:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Fibonacci/Archive0&action=edit&section=49" title="Edit section: Image copyright problem with Image:Zoso.png"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-OrphanBot-2006-04-23T13:50:00.000Z-Image_copyright_problem_with_Image:Zoso.png"></span>Thanks for uploading <a href="/w/index.php?title=File:Zoso.png&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="File:Zoso.png (page does not exist)">Image:Zoso.png</a>. The image has been identified as not specifying the copyright status of the image, which is required by Wikipedia's policy on images. If you don't indicate the copyright status of the image on the image's description page, using an appropriate <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:ICT" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:ICT">copyright tag</a>, it may be deleted some time in the next seven days. If you have uploaded other images, please verify that you have provided copyright information for them as well. </p><p>For more information on using images, see the following pages: </p> <ul><li><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Image_use_policy" title="Wikipedia:Image use policy">Wikipedia:Image use policy</a></li> <li><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Image_copyright_tags" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:Image copyright tags">Wikipedia:Image copyright tags</a></li></ul> <p>This is an automated notice by <a href="/wiki/User:OrphanBot" title="User:OrphanBot">OrphanBot</a>. For assistance on the image use policy, see <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Media_copyright_questions" title="Wikipedia:Media copyright questions">Wikipedia:Media copyright questions</a>. <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Fibonacci/Archive0#c-OrphanBot-2006-04-23T13:50:00.000Z-Image_copyright_problem_with_Image:Zoso.png" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:50, 23 April 2006 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-OrphanBot-2006-04-23T13:50:00.000Z-Image_copyright_problem_with_Image:Zoso.png"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-OrphanBot-2006-04-23T13:50:00.000Z-Image_copyright_problem_with_Image:Zoso.png"></span> </p> <figure class="mw-default-size mw-halign-right" typeof="mw:File/Thumb"><a href="/wiki/File:Zoso.svg" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/c/c5/Zoso.svg/220px-Zoso.svg.png" decoding="async" width="220" height="51" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/c/c5/Zoso.svg/330px-Zoso.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/c/c5/Zoso.svg/440px-Zoso.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="744" data-file-height="172"/></a><figcaption>Image:Zoso.svg, my own work.</figcaption></figure> <dl><dd>Thanks your your note. I created <a href="/wiki/File:Zoso.svg" title="File:Zoso.svg">Image:Zoso.svg</a> as a vector drawing in <a href="/wiki/Inkscape" title="Inkscape">Inkscape</a> to replace this image. It should be considered an "artist's impression" of the four symbols, and as such, I have explicitly released it into the public domain to avoid any further concerns about copyright. The symbols themselves are not copyrightable, but the .gif I originally uploaded was derived from another graphic that I found on the internet about a year ago (which I haven't been able to locate again) and that image, it's determined, was most likely a derivative work of the Led Zeppelin album art, and thus considered "fair use", even though only the non-copyrightable portions of the album art were used. Confusing, eh? It seems like copyright paranoia at it's worst, in my opinion, but it's been replaced by the image at right. I've uploaded it to the commons and attempted to also inform Led Zeppelin editors in other languages who were still using the .png image. — <small>Apr. 25, '06</small> <span class="plainlinks" style="font-family:monospace, monospace;"><b>[08:53] <<a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Freakofnurture">freakofnur<sub>x</sub>ture</a><a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/freakofnurture" title="Special:Contributions/freakofnurture">|</a><a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Freakofnurture&action=edit&section=new">talk</a>></b></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Image_Tagging_Image:Sonic.png" data-mw-thread-id="h-Image_Tagging_Image:Sonic.png-2006-04-23T18:48:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Image_Tagging_Image:Sonic.png-2006-04-23T18:48:00.000Z"></span>Image Tagging <a href="/w/index.php?title=File:Sonic.png&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="File:Sonic.png (page does not exist)">Image:Sonic.png</a><span data-mw-comment-end="h-Image_Tagging_Image:Sonic.png-2006-04-23T18:48:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Fibonacci/Archive0&action=edit&section=50" title="Edit section: Image Tagging Image:Sonic.png"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <table align="CENTER" style="background-color:#FFFFFF; border:8px solid #FF0000; padding:5px;"> <tbody><tr> <td><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-ReyBrujo-2006-04-23T18:48:00.000Z-Image_Tagging_Image:Sonic.png"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Nuvola_apps_important.svg" class="mw-file-description" title="Warning sign"><img alt="Warning sign" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/f/f7/Nuvola_apps_important.svg/30px-Nuvola_apps_important.svg.png" decoding="async" width="30" height="25" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/f/f7/Nuvola_apps_important.svg/45px-Nuvola_apps_important.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/f/f7/Nuvola_apps_important.svg/60px-Nuvola_apps_important.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="600" data-file-height="500"/></a></span> </td> <td><div class="center" style="width:auto; margin-left:auto; margin-right:auto;"><span style="font-size:120%">This media may be <b>deleted</b>.</span></div> </td></tr></tbody></table> <p>Thanks for uploading <b><a href="/w/index.php?title=File:Sonic.png&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="File:Sonic.png (page does not exist)">Image:Sonic.png</a></b>. I notice the 'image' page currently doesn't specify who created the content, so the <a href="/wiki/Copyright" title="Copyright">copyright</a> status is unclear. If you have not created this media yourself then there needs to be an argument why we have the right to use the media on Wikipedia (see copyright tagging below). If you have not created the media yourself then it needs to be specified where it was found, i.e., in most cases link to the website where it was taken from, and the terms of use for content from that page. </p><p>If the media also doesn't have a copyright tag then one should be added. If you created/took the picture, audio, or video then the <span class="nowrap">{{</span><a href="/wiki/Template:GFDL-self" title="Template:GFDL-self">GFDL-self</a><span class="nowrap">}}</span> tag can be used to release it under the <a href="/wiki/GFDL" class="mw-redirect" title="GFDL">GFDL</a>. If you believe the media qualifies as fair use, consider reading <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Fair_use" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:Fair use">fair use</a>, and then use a tag such as <span class="nowrap">{{<a href="/wiki/Template:Non-free_fair_use_in" class="mw-redirect" title="Template:Non-free fair use in">Non-free fair use in</a>|article name}}</span> or one of the other tags listed at <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Image_copyright_tags#Fair_use" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:Image copyright tags">Wikipedia:Image copyright tags#Fair_use</a>. See <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Image_copyright_tags" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:Image copyright tags">Wikipedia:Image copyright tags</a> for the full list of copyright tags that you can use. </p><p>If you have uploaded other media, consider checking that you have specified their source and copyright tagged them, too. You can find a list of 'image' pages you have edited by clicking on the "<a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Fibonacci/Archive0" title="Special:Contributions/Fibonacci/Archive0">my contributions</a>" link (it is located at the very top of any Wikipedia page when you are logged in), and then selecting "Image" from the dropdown box. Note that any unsourced and untagged images will be deleted one week after they have been uploaded, as described on <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Criteria_for_speedy_deletion#Images.2FMedia" title="Wikipedia:Criteria for speedy deletion">criteria for speedy deletion</a>. If you have any questions please ask them at the <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Media_copyright_questions" title="Wikipedia:Media copyright questions">Media copyright questions page</a>. Thank you. <a href="/wiki/User:ReyBrujo" title="User:ReyBrujo">ReyBrujo</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Fibonacci/Archive0#c-ReyBrujo-2006-04-23T18:48:00.000Z-Image_Tagging_Image:Sonic.png" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:48, 23 April 2006 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-ReyBrujo-2006-04-23T18:48:00.000Z-Image_Tagging_Image:Sonic.png"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-ReyBrujo-2006-04-23T18:48:00.000Z-Image_Tagging_Image:Sonic.png"></span> </p><p><br/> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Image_Tagging_Image:Fibonacci.png" data-mw-thread-id="h-Image_Tagging_Image:Fibonacci.png-2006-04-24T03:43:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Image_Tagging_Image:Fibonacci.png-2006-04-24T03:43:00.000Z"></span>Image Tagging <a href="/wiki/File:Fibonacci.png" title="File:Fibonacci.png">Image:Fibonacci.png</a><span data-mw-comment-end="h-Image_Tagging_Image:Fibonacci.png-2006-04-24T03:43:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Fibonacci/Archive0&action=edit&section=51" title="Edit section: Image Tagging Image:Fibonacci.png"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <table align="CENTER" style="background-color:#FFFFFF; border:8px solid #FF0000; padding:5px;"> <tbody><tr> <td><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-DopefishJustin-2006-04-24T03:43:00.000Z-Image_Tagging_Image:Fibonacci.png"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Nuvola_apps_important.svg" class="mw-file-description" title="Warning sign"><img alt="Warning sign" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/f/f7/Nuvola_apps_important.svg/30px-Nuvola_apps_important.svg.png" decoding="async" width="30" height="25" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/f/f7/Nuvola_apps_important.svg/45px-Nuvola_apps_important.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/f/f7/Nuvola_apps_important.svg/60px-Nuvola_apps_important.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="600" data-file-height="500"/></a></span> </td> <td><div class="center" style="width:auto; margin-left:auto; margin-right:auto;"><span style="font-size:120%">This media may be <b>deleted</b>.</span></div> </td></tr></tbody></table> <p>Thanks for uploading <b><a href="/wiki/File:Fibonacci.png" title="File:Fibonacci.png">Image:Fibonacci.png</a></b>. I notice the 'image' page currently doesn't specify who created the content, so the <a href="/wiki/Copyright" title="Copyright">copyright</a> status is unclear. If you have not created this media yourself then there needs to be an argument why we have the right to use the media on Wikipedia (see copyright tagging below). If you have not created the media yourself then it needs to be specified where it was found, i.e., in most cases link to the website where it was taken from, and the terms of use for content from that page. </p><p>If the media also doesn't have a copyright tag then one should be added. If you created/took the picture, audio, or video then the <span class="nowrap">{{</span><a href="/wiki/Template:GFDL-self" title="Template:GFDL-self">GFDL-self</a><span class="nowrap">}}</span> tag can be used to release it under the <a href="/wiki/GFDL" class="mw-redirect" title="GFDL">GFDL</a>. If you believe the media qualifies as fair use, consider reading <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Fair_use" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:Fair use">fair use</a>, and then use a tag such as <span class="nowrap">{{<a href="/wiki/Template:Non-free_fair_use_in" class="mw-redirect" title="Template:Non-free fair use in">Non-free fair use in</a>|article name}}</span> or one of the other tags listed at <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Image_copyright_tags#Fair_use" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:Image copyright tags">Wikipedia:Image copyright tags#Fair_use</a>. See <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Image_copyright_tags" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:Image copyright tags">Wikipedia:Image copyright tags</a> for the full list of copyright tags that you can use. </p><p>If you have uploaded other media, consider checking that you have specified their source and copyright tagged them, too. You can find a list of 'image' pages you have edited by clicking on the "<a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Fibonacci/Archive0" title="Special:Contributions/Fibonacci/Archive0">my contributions</a>" link (it is located at the very top of any Wikipedia page when you are logged in), and then selecting "Image" from the dropdown box. Note that any unsourced and untagged images will be deleted one week after they have been uploaded, as described on <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Criteria_for_speedy_deletion#Images.2FMedia" title="Wikipedia:Criteria for speedy deletion">criteria for speedy deletion</a>. If you have any questions please ask them at the <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Media_copyright_questions" title="Wikipedia:Media copyright questions">Media copyright questions page</a>. Thank you. --<a href="/wiki/User:DopefishJustin" title="User:DopefishJustin">DopefishJustin</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Fibonacci/Archive0#c-DopefishJustin-2006-04-24T03:43:00.000Z-Image_Tagging_Image:Fibonacci.png" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">03:43, 24 April 2006 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-DopefishJustin-2006-04-24T03:43:00.000Z-Image_Tagging_Image:Fibonacci.png"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-DopefishJustin-2006-04-24T03:43:00.000Z-Image_Tagging_Image:Fibonacci.png"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Boarding_Pass" data-mw-thread-id="h-Boarding_Pass"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Boarding_Pass"></span>Boarding Pass<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Boarding_Pass"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Fibonacci/Archive0&action=edit&section=52" title="Edit section: Boarding Pass"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span></div> <p>It wasn't a test, the image needed deleting as does a lot of other trivial crap on the Kill Bill article <small>—Preceding <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Signatures" title="Wikipedia:Signatures">unsigned</a> comment added by <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:80.195.241.238&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:80.195.241.238 (page does not exist)">80.195.241.238</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:80.195.241.238" title="User talk:80.195.241.238">talk</a> • <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/80.195.241.238" title="Special:Contributions/80.195.241.238">contribs</a>) </small> </p> <dl><dd><dl><dd>Look at the talk page</dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Greetings_and_Free_Software_promotion_in_Bagatela_page" data-mw-thread-id="h-Greetings_and_Free_Software_promotion_in_Bagatela_page-2006-05-06T18:51:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Greetings_and_Free_Software_promotion_in_Bagatela_page-2006-05-06T18:51:00.000Z"></span>Greetings and Free Software promotion in Bagatela page<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Greetings_and_Free_Software_promotion_in_Bagatela_page-2006-05-06T18:51:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Fibonacci/Archive0&action=edit&section=53" title="Edit section: Greetings and Free Software promotion in Bagatela page"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Oscarín_Aino-2006-05-06T18:51:00.000Z-Greetings_and_Free_Software_promotion_in_Bagatela_page"></span>Hola Fibo...: Bueno lo de las dos cuestiones se la dejaré pendiente por ahora, porque necesito que me envie por email todo lo referente sobre software libre (que lo expuso en Dinamo) y su aplicación en Colombia para la página de <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://groups.msn.com/Bagatela">Bagatela</a> (que la compartimos yo y Juan Carlos Quengúan), y promocionarlo allí (y de consigo se inscribe si le interesa porque la estamos arreglando).--<a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Oscar%C3%ADn_Aino&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Oscarín Aino (page does not exist)">Oscarín Aino</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Fibonacci/Archive0#c-Oscarín_Aino-2006-05-06T18:51:00.000Z-Greetings_and_Free_Software_promotion_in_Bagatela_page" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:51, 6 May 2006 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Oscarín_Aino-2006-05-06T18:51:00.000Z-Greetings_and_Free_Software_promotion_in_Bagatela_page"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Oscarín_Aino-2006-05-06T18:51:00.000Z-Greetings_and_Free_Software_promotion_in_Bagatela_page"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Santa_Marta" data-mw-thread-id="h-Santa_Marta-2006-05-17T13:34:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Santa_Marta-2006-05-17T13:34:00.000Z"></span>Santa Marta<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Santa_Marta-2006-05-17T13:34:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Fibonacci/Archive0&action=edit&section=54" title="Edit section: Santa Marta"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Mijotoba-2006-05-17T13:34:00.000Z-Santa_Marta"></span>Hello Fibonacci, I am currently working on the page of <a href="/wiki/Santa_Marta" title="Santa Marta">Santa Marta</a> in spanish, and soon will be doing the same in english, but I'm having a little problem trying to get the coat of arms for the city, and i know yu uploaded it to the site in english, and I just wanted to ask if yu could do the same in the spanish site, unfortunelly i havent found that many helpful people in the spanish site to help me wih the uploading process, and its really frustrating, well thank yu anyway for yur time. <a href="/wiki/User:Mijotoba" title="User:Mijotoba">mijotoba</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Fibonacci/Archive0#c-Mijotoba-2006-05-17T13:34:00.000Z-Santa_Marta" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:34, 17 May 2006 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Mijotoba-2006-05-17T13:34:00.000Z-Santa_Marta"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Mijotoba-2006-05-17T13:34:00.000Z-Santa_Marta"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="About_the_Furry_thing" data-mw-thread-id="h-About_the_Furry_thing-2006-05-20T07:22:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-About_the_Furry_thing-2006-05-20T07:22:00.000Z"></span>About the Furry thing<span data-mw-comment-end="h-About_the_Furry_thing-2006-05-20T07:22:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Fibonacci/Archive0&action=edit&section=55" title="Edit section: About the Furry thing"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-The_Ungovernable_Force-2006-05-20T07:22:00.000Z-About_the_Furry_thing"></span>Hi, I was wondering if you could maybe explain more to me about your use of the term "furry" to describe yourself. I have seen it on wiki a few times, and I clicked on the link on your page, but it went to a disambig page. I'm interested in learning what this means to you, and to other in general. Is it a role-play thing, or do you actually consider yourself a fox (in the same way a transexual actually considers themself a member of the opposite sex, versus a transvestite who merely dresses like a member of the opposite sex)? FYI, there will be no negative judgement on my part either way, I'm really open minded and am merely interested in understanding this more. You can respond here or on my talk page if you'd like. <a href="/wiki/User:The_Ungovernable_Force" title="User:The Ungovernable Force">The Ungovernable Force</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Fibonacci/Archive0#c-The_Ungovernable_Force-2006-05-20T07:22:00.000Z-About_the_Furry_thing" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">07:22, 20 May 2006 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-The_Ungovernable_Force-2006-05-20T07:22:00.000Z-About_the_Furry_thing"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-The_Ungovernable_Force-2006-05-20T07:22:00.000Z-About_the_Furry_thing"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Fibonacci-2006-05-20T09:56:00.000Z-The_Ungovernable_Force-2006-05-20T07:22:00.000Z"></span>See <a href="/wiki/Furry_fandom" title="Furry fandom">Furry fandom</a>.</dd> <dd>As for your question, no, I don't think I'm actually a fox on a human body (though there are <a href="/wiki/Therianthropy_(subculture)" class="mw-redirect" title="Therianthropy (subculture)">others</a> that do think so - I'm only speaking for myself). But, strange as it might sound, I'd like to be one.</dd> <dd>Please feel free to ask anything you want to on the subject. I realise my answer was an oversimplification, partly because of my English not being yet perfect (though I couldn't put it even in Spanish ^^U), partly because sleep deprivation prevents me from thinking straight (this will hopefully end soon enough). -<a href="/wiki/User:Fibonacci" title="User:Fibonacci">Fibonacci</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Fibonacci/Archive0#c-Fibonacci-2006-05-20T09:56:00.000Z-The_Ungovernable_Force-2006-05-20T07:22:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:56, 20 May 2006 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Fibonacci-2006-05-20T09:56:00.000Z-The_Ungovernable_Force-2006-05-20T07:22:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Fibonacci-2006-05-20T09:56:00.000Z-The_Ungovernable_Force-2006-05-20T07:22:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="RE:_Wikipedia_Colombia" data-mw-thread-id="h-RE:_Wikipedia_Colombia-2006-05-24T20:39:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-RE:_Wikipedia_Colombia-2006-05-24T20:39:00.000Z"></span>RE: Wikipedia Colombia<span data-mw-comment-end="h-RE:_Wikipedia_Colombia-2006-05-24T20:39:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Fibonacci/Archive0&action=edit&section=56" title="Edit section: RE: Wikipedia Colombia"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Sampi-2006-05-24T20:39:00.000Z-RE:_Wikipedia_Colombia"></span>Muchas gracias por invitarme pero la verdad es que aunque el proyecto me parece bien interesante no creo que tenga mucho tiempo que le pueda dedicar. Estaré monitoreando el progreso del proyecto pero no me suscribo "oficialmente" como miembro. Igual muchas gracias. --– <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Sampi&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Sampi (page does not exist)">sampi</a> (<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Sampi&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:Sampi (page does not exist)"><span style="color:blue; font-size:x-small;">talk</span></a>•<a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Sampi" title="Special:Contributions/Sampi"><span style="color:red; font-size:x-small;">contrib</span></a>•<a href="/wiki/Special:EmailUser/Sampi" title="Special:EmailUser/Sampi"><span style="color:green; font-size:x-small;">email</span></a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Fibonacci/Archive0#c-Sampi-2006-05-24T20:39:00.000Z-RE:_Wikipedia_Colombia" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:39, 24 May 2006 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Sampi-2006-05-24T20:39:00.000Z-RE:_Wikipedia_Colombia"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Sampi-2006-05-24T20:39:00.000Z-RE:_Wikipedia_Colombia"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Fibonacci-2006-05-25T21:04:00.000Z-Sampi-2006-05-24T20:39:00.000Z"></span>Pues lástima que no se una... pero la invitación es de <a href="/wiki/User:Chlewey" title="User:Chlewey">Carlos</a>, no mía; mejor hable con él. --<a href="/wiki/User:Fibonacci" title="User:Fibonacci">Fibonacci</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Fibonacci/Archive0#c-Fibonacci-2006-05-25T21:04:00.000Z-Sampi-2006-05-24T20:39:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:04, 25 May 2006 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Fibonacci-2006-05-25T21:04:00.000Z-Sampi-2006-05-24T20:39:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Fibonacci-2006-05-25T21:04:00.000Z-Sampi-2006-05-24T20:39:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Happy_Birthday!" data-mw-thread-id="h-Happy_Birthday!-2006-06-09T06:11:00.000Z"><span id="Happy_Birthday.21"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Happy_Birthday!-2006-06-09T06:11:00.000Z"></span>Happy Birthday!<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Happy_Birthday!-2006-06-09T06:11:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Fibonacci/Archive0&action=edit&section=57" title="Edit section: Happy Birthday!"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <table class="messagebox standard-talk" style="border: 1px solid #CC9999; background-color: ugly;"> <tbody><tr> <td align="center"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Thistheman-2006-06-09T06:11:00.000Z-Happy_Birthday!"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Choco_chip_cookie.png" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/b4/Choco_chip_cookie.png/75px-Choco_chip_cookie.png" decoding="async" width="75" height="52" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/b4/Choco_chip_cookie.png/113px-Choco_chip_cookie.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/b4/Choco_chip_cookie.png/150px-Choco_chip_cookie.png 2x" data-file-width="800" data-file-height="557"/></a></span> </td> <td align="left" width="100%">Hungry? Here's a little snack for you on your birthday, from the <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:BDC" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:BDC">Wikipedia Birthday Committee!!!</a> Have a great day, <b>Fibonacci/Archive0</b>! </td></tr></tbody></table> <p>Many happy returns! </p><p><a href="/wiki/User:Thistheman" title="User:Thistheman">Thistheman</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Fibonacci/Archive0#c-Thistheman-2006-06-09T06:11:00.000Z-Happy_Birthday!" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">06:11, 9 June 2006 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Thistheman-2006-06-09T06:11:00.000Z-Happy_Birthday!"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Thistheman-2006-06-09T06:11:00.000Z-Happy_Birthday!"></span> </p><p><br/> </p> <table class="messagebox standard-talk" style="border: 1px solid #CC9999; background-color: lightblue;"> <tbody><tr> <td align="center"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Mr._Turcotte-2006-06-09T20:35:00.000Z-Happy_Birthday!"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Nuvola_apps_cookie.png" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/ec/Nuvola_apps_cookie.png/50px-Nuvola_apps_cookie.png" decoding="async" width="50" height="50" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/ec/Nuvola_apps_cookie.png/75px-Nuvola_apps_cookie.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/ec/Nuvola_apps_cookie.png/100px-Nuvola_apps_cookie.png 2x" data-file-width="128" data-file-height="128"/></a></span> </td> <td align="left" width="100%"><span style="color:black;">Just a happy Birthday message to you, <b> Fibonacci/Archive0, </b> from the <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:BDC" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:BDC"><span style="color:blue;">Wikipedia Birthday Committee!!!</span></a> Have a great day!</span> </td></tr></tbody></table> <p><a href="/wiki/User:Mr._Turcotte" title="User:Mr. Turcotte"><span style="color:Black;"><b>Mr. Turcotte</b></span></a><sup><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Mr._Turcotte" title="User talk:Mr. Turcotte"><b><span style="color:navy;"><i>talk</i></span></b></a></sup> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Fibonacci/Archive0#c-Mr._Turcotte-2006-06-09T20:35:00.000Z-Happy_Birthday!" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:35, 9 June 2006 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Mr._Turcotte-2006-06-09T20:35:00.000Z-Happy_Birthday!"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Mr._Turcotte-2006-06-09T20:35:00.000Z-Happy_Birthday!"></span> </p><div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Merge-to_arrow" data-mw-thread-id="h-Merge-to_arrow-2006-06-15T10:45:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Merge-to_arrow-2006-06-15T10:45:00.000Z"></span>Merge-to arrow<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Merge-to_arrow-2006-06-15T10:45:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Fibonacci/Archive0&action=edit&section=58" title="Edit section: Merge-to arrow"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <div style="font-size:smaller;font-style:italic;"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Phil_Boswell-2006-06-15T10:45:00.000Z-Merge-to_arrow"></span>Also posted at your commons talk page</div> <p>I would like to use <a href="/wiki/File:Merge-arrow.svg" title="File:Merge-arrow.svg">your SVG</a> to replace <a href="/wiki/File:Merge-arrow.gif" title="File:Merge-arrow.gif">the old GIF</a> but the background is not transparent. Would it be easy to fix? TIA HAND —<a href="/wiki/User:Phil_Boswell" title="User:Phil Boswell">Phil</a> | <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Phil_Boswell" title="User talk:Phil Boswell">Talk</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Fibonacci/Archive0#c-Phil_Boswell-2006-06-15T10:45:00.000Z-Merge-to_arrow" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:45, 15 June 2006 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Phil_Boswell-2006-06-15T10:45:00.000Z-Merge-to_arrow"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Phil_Boswell-2006-06-15T10:45:00.000Z-Merge-to_arrow"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Fibonacci-2006-06-16T20:45:00.000Z-Phil_Boswell-2006-06-15T10:45:00.000Z"></span>Answered on <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Phil_Boswell" class="extiw" title="commons:User talk:Phil Boswell"><b>your</b> Commons talk page</a>. --<a href="/wiki/User:Fibonacci" title="User:Fibonacci">Fibonacci</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Fibonacci/Archive0#c-Fibonacci-2006-06-16T20:45:00.000Z-Phil_Boswell-2006-06-15T10:45:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:45, 16 June 2006 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Fibonacci-2006-06-16T20:45:00.000Z-Phil_Boswell-2006-06-15T10:45:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Fibonacci-2006-06-16T20:45:00.000Z-Phil_Boswell-2006-06-15T10:45:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Images" data-mw-thread-id="h-Images-2006-06-15T13:44:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Images-2006-06-15T13:44:00.000Z"></span>Images<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Images-2006-06-15T13:44:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Fibonacci/Archive0&action=edit&section=59" title="Edit section: Images"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Fireblues-2006-06-15T13:44:00.000Z-Images"></span>Hello, cioè salve! Visto che hai confidenza con commons, posso chiederti se puoi caricare alcune immagini free use dalla wiki inglese in modo che siano sfruttabili da ogni wiki? Ti faccio un esempio: </p> <ul><li>Image:Rogerwatersric.jpg</li> <li>Image:Jimmy Page b&w.jpg</li> <li>Image:Battle Centaurs.jpg</li></ul> <p>Oppure mi sai dire un modo per farlo da me? --<a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Fireblues&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Fireblues (page does not exist)">Fireblues</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Fibonacci/Archive0#c-Fireblues-2006-06-15T13:44:00.000Z-Images" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:44, 15 June 2006 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Fireblues-2006-06-15T13:44:00.000Z-Images"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Fireblues-2006-06-15T13:44:00.000Z-Images"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Fireblues-2006-06-17T11:21:00.000Z-Fireblues-2006-06-15T13:44:00.000Z"></span>Provo io, poi casomai ti chiedo, se non riesco! Grazie in anticipo!--<a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Fireblues&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Fireblues (page does not exist)">Fireblues</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Fibonacci/Archive0#c-Fireblues-2006-06-17T11:21:00.000Z-Fireblues-2006-06-15T13:44:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:21, 17 June 2006 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Fireblues-2006-06-17T11:21:00.000Z-Fireblues-2006-06-15T13:44:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Fireblues-2006-06-17T11:21:00.000Z-Fireblues-2006-06-15T13:44:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Peace_flag" data-mw-thread-id="h-Peace_flag-2006-06-15T14:31:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Peace_flag-2006-06-15T14:31:00.000Z"></span>Peace flag<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Peace_flag-2006-06-15T14:31:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Fibonacci/Archive0&action=edit&section=60" title="Edit section: Peace flag"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-JK_the_unwise-2006-06-15T14:31:00.000Z-Peace_flag"></span>Some one seems to have deleted <a href="/wiki/File:PACE-flag.svg" title="File:PACE-flag.svg">Image:PACE-flag.svg</a> which I think you uploaded (<a href="/wiki/User:Fibonacci/Uploads" title="User:Fibonacci/Uploads">User:Fibonacci/Uploads</a>). I can't seem to find out how/why it was deleted but I imagine that it might have something todo with the debate on <a href="/wiki/Template_talk:Anti-warTasks" title="Template talk:Anti-warTasks">Template talk:Anti-warTasks</a>. If you could re-upload it that would be cool.--<a href="/wiki/User:JK_the_unwise" title="User:JK the unwise">JK the unwise</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Fibonacci/Archive0#c-JK_the_unwise-2006-06-15T14:31:00.000Z-Peace_flag" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:31, 15 June 2006 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-JK_the_unwise-2006-06-15T14:31:00.000Z-Peace_flag"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-JK_the_unwise-2006-06-15T14:31:00.000Z-Peace_flag"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Fibonacci-2006-06-15T16:16:00.000Z-JK_the_unwise-2006-06-15T14:31:00.000Z"></span>But I had uploaded my image to <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Image:PACE-flag.svg" class="extiw" title="commons:Image:PACE-flag.svg">Commons</a>, and it seems that it has not been deleted from there. Could it be that a database lag is preventing it from showing properly here? --<a href="/wiki/User:Fibonacci" title="User:Fibonacci">Fibonacci</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Fibonacci/Archive0#c-Fibonacci-2006-06-15T16:16:00.000Z-JK_the_unwise-2006-06-15T14:31:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:16, 15 June 2006 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Fibonacci-2006-06-15T16:16:00.000Z-JK_the_unwise-2006-06-15T14:31:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Fibonacci-2006-06-15T16:16:00.000Z-JK_the_unwise-2006-06-15T14:31:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-JK_the_unwise-2006-06-16T10:05:00.000Z-Fibonacci-2006-06-15T16:16:00.000Z"></span>ahh I see, I will put conspiricy theories of stelth deletion aside :-). Its odd though that it still doesn't seem to be coming through? Is anything going on that would increase databace lag at the moment?--<a href="/wiki/User:JK_the_unwise" title="User:JK the unwise">JK the unwise</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Fibonacci/Archive0#c-JK_the_unwise-2006-06-16T10:05:00.000Z-Fibonacci-2006-06-15T16:16:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:05, 16 June 2006 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-JK_the_unwise-2006-06-16T10:05:00.000Z-Fibonacci-2006-06-15T16:16:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-JK_the_unwise-2006-06-16T10:05:00.000Z-Fibonacci-2006-06-15T16:16:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Fibonacci-2006-06-16T20:42:00.000Z-JK_the_unwise-2006-06-16T10:05:00.000Z"></span>It's all right now. Just a matter of <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=File:PACE-flag.svg&action=purge">purging the page cache</a>. --<a href="/wiki/User:Fibonacci" title="User:Fibonacci">Fibonacci</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Fibonacci/Archive0#c-Fibonacci-2006-06-16T20:42:00.000Z-JK_the_unwise-2006-06-16T10:05:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:42, 16 June 2006 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Fibonacci-2006-06-16T20:42:00.000Z-JK_the_unwise-2006-06-16T10:05:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Fibonacci-2006-06-16T20:42:00.000Z-JK_the_unwise-2006-06-16T10:05:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Image_Tagging_for_Image:Goosebumps_icon.png" data-mw-thread-id="h-Image_Tagging_for_Image:Goosebumps_icon.png-2006-06-24T22:06:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Image_Tagging_for_Image:Goosebumps_icon.png-2006-06-24T22:06:00.000Z"></span>Image Tagging for <a href="/w/index.php?title=File:Goosebumps_icon.png&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="File:Goosebumps icon.png (page does not exist)">Image:Goosebumps icon.png</a><span data-mw-comment-end="h-Image_Tagging_for_Image:Goosebumps_icon.png-2006-06-24T22:06:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Fibonacci/Archive0&action=edit&section=61" title="Edit section: Image Tagging for Image:Goosebumps icon.png"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-OrphanBot-2006-06-24T22:06:00.000Z-Image_Tagging_for_Image:Goosebumps_icon.png"></span>Thanks for uploading <b><a href="/w/index.php?title=File:Goosebumps_icon.png&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="File:Goosebumps icon.png (page does not exist)">Image:Goosebumps icon.png</a></b>. 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For assistance on the image use policy, see <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Media_copyright_questions" title="Wikipedia:Media copyright questions">Wikipedia:Media copyright questions</a>. <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Fibonacci/Archive0#c-OrphanBot-2006-06-24T22:06:00.000Z-Image_Tagging_for_Image:Goosebumps_icon.png" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:06, 24 June 2006 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-OrphanBot-2006-06-24T22:06:00.000Z-Image_Tagging_for_Image:Goosebumps_icon.png"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-OrphanBot-2006-06-24T22:06:00.000Z-Image_Tagging_for_Image:Goosebumps_icon.png"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Goosebumps_and_Fear_Street" data-mw-thread-id="h-Goosebumps_and_Fear_Street-2006-06-24T22:24:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Goosebumps_and_Fear_Street-2006-06-24T22:24:00.000Z"></span>Goosebumps and Fear Street<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Goosebumps_and_Fear_Street-2006-06-24T22:24:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Fibonacci/Archive0&action=edit&section=62" title="Edit section: Goosebumps and Fear Street"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-CyberGhostface-2006-06-24T22:24:00.000Z-Goosebumps_and_Fear_Street"></span>I added a source to the picture.--<a href="/wiki/User:CyberGhostface" title="User:CyberGhostface">CyberGhostface</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Fibonacci/Archive0#c-CyberGhostface-2006-06-24T22:24:00.000Z-Goosebumps_and_Fear_Street" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:24, 24 June 2006 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-CyberGhostface-2006-06-24T22:24:00.000Z-Goosebumps_and_Fear_Street"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-CyberGhostface-2006-06-24T22:24:00.000Z-Goosebumps_and_Fear_Street"></span> </p><p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Dleav-2006-06-25T01:58:00.000Z-Goosebumps_and_Fear_Street"></span>Thanks for the grammar edit. I'm surprised I didn't catch then when I was writing up the page.--<a href="/wiki/User:Dleav" title="User:Dleav">Dleav</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Fibonacci/Archive0#c-Dleav-2006-06-25T01:58:00.000Z-Goosebumps_and_Fear_Street" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">01:58, 25 June 2006 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Dleav-2006-06-25T01:58:00.000Z-Goosebumps_and_Fear_Street"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Dleav-2006-06-25T01:58:00.000Z-Goosebumps_and_Fear_Street"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Bavaria_logo" data-mw-thread-id="h-Bavaria_logo"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Bavaria_logo"></span>Bavaria logo<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Bavaria_logo"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Fibonacci/Archive0&action=edit&section=63" title="Edit section: Bavaria logo"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span></div> <p>I dont own the copyright, but I could not find the logo anywere, so i created a replica, and if you think i am making a mistake, deleate the stupid logo and forget about it... and this logo is a replica created by me dude. <a href="/wiki/User:ColBog" title="User:ColBog">ColBog</a> And you really should follow the rules to man. </p> <style data-mw-deduplicate="TemplateStyles:r1237879490">.mw-parser-output .imbox{margin:4px 0;border-collapse:collapse;border:3px solid #36c;background-color:var(--background-color-interactive-subtle,#f8f9fa);box-sizing:border-box}.mw-parser-output .imbox .mbox-text .imbox{margin:0 -0.5em;display:block}.mw-parser-output .imbox-speedy{border:3px solid #b32424;background-color:#fee7e6}.mw-parser-output .imbox-delete{border:3px solid #b32424}.mw-parser-output .imbox-content{border:3px solid #f28500}.mw-parser-output .imbox-style{border:3px solid #fc3}.mw-parser-output .imbox-move{border:3px solid #9932cc}.mw-parser-output .imbox-protection{border:3px solid #a2a9b1}.mw-parser-output .imbox-license{border:3px solid #88a}.mw-parser-output .imbox-featured{border:3px solid #cba135}.mw-parser-output .imbox .mbox-text{border:none;padding:0.25em 0.9em;width:100%}.mw-parser-output .imbox .mbox-image{border:none;padding:2px 0 2px 0.9em;text-align:center}.mw-parser-output .imbox .mbox-imageright{border:none;padding:2px 0.9em 2px 0;text-align:center}.mw-parser-output .imbox .mbox-empty-cell{border:none;padding:0;width:1px}.mw-parser-output .imbox .mbox-invalid-type{text-align:center}@media(min-width:720px){.mw-parser-output .imbox{margin:4px 10%}}@media screen{html.skin-theme-clientpref-night .mw-parser-output .imbox-speedy{background-color:#310402}}@media screen and (prefers-color-scheme:dark){html.skin-theme-clientpref-os .mw-parser-output .imbox-speedy{background-color:#310402}}</style><table class="plainlinks imbox imbox-license licensetpl" role="presentation"><tbody><tr><td class="mbox-image"><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Heckert_GNU_white.svg" class="mw-file-description" title="GFDL"><img alt="GFDL" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/2/22/Heckert_GNU_white.svg/52px-Heckert_GNU_white.svg.png" decoding="async" width="52" height="51" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/2/22/Heckert_GNU_white.svg/78px-Heckert_GNU_white.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/2/22/Heckert_GNU_white.svg/104px-Heckert_GNU_white.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="535" data-file-height="523"/></a></span></td><td class="mbox-text">I, the creator of this work, hereby grant the permission to copy, distribute and/or modify this document under the terms of the <b><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Text_of_the_GNU_Free_Documentation_License" title="Wikipedia:Text of the GNU Free Documentation License">GNU Free Documentation License</a></b>, Version 1.2 or any later version published by the Free Software Foundation; with no Invariant Sections, no Front-Cover Texts, and no Back-Cover Texts. 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WHAT DO YOU CONSIDER FOR THE LOGO? DELEATED,OR IS THERE ANY LICENCE THAT FALLS IN THAT CATEGORY? <a href="/wiki/User:ColBog" title="User:ColBog">User:ColBog</a> </p> <pre>Hey there again, I added a source to the image, which is both good and reliable. 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