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href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Templates_for_discussion/Log/2024_November_22&amp;action=edit&amp;section=3" title="Edit section: Template:Hiberno-English"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span></div> <ul><li><span id="Template:Hiberno-English" class="plainlinks nourlexpansion 1x"><a href="/wiki/Template:Hiberno-English" title="Template:Hiberno-English"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Jonesey95-20241122233400-Template:Hiberno-English"></span>Template:Hiberno-English</a> (<a href="/wiki/Template_talk:Hiberno-English" title="Template talk:Hiberno-English">talk</a> <b>·</b> <a href="/wiki/Special:PageHistory/Template:Hiberno-English" title="Special:PageHistory/Template:Hiberno-English">history</a> <b>·</b> <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special%3AWhatlinkshere%2FTemplate%3AHiberno-English&amp;limit=5000&amp;hidelinks=1&amp;hideredirs=1">transclusions</a> <b>·</b> <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special%3ALog&amp;page=Template%3AHiberno-English">logs</a> <b>·</b> <a href="/wiki/Special:PrefixIndex/Template:Hiberno-English/" title="Special:PrefixIndex/Template:Hiberno-English/">subpages</a>)</span></li> <li><span id="Template:Use_Hiberno-English" class="plainlinks nourlexpansion 1x"><a href="/wiki/Template:Use_Hiberno-English" title="Template:Use Hiberno-English">Template:Use Hiberno-English</a> (<a href="/wiki/Template_talk:Use_Hiberno-English" title="Template talk:Use Hiberno-English">talk</a> <b>·</b> <a href="/wiki/Special:PageHistory/Template:Use_Hiberno-English" title="Special:PageHistory/Template:Use Hiberno-English">history</a> <b>·</b> <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special%3AWhatlinkshere%2FTemplate%3AUse+Hiberno-English&amp;limit=5000&amp;hidelinks=1&amp;hideredirs=1">transclusions</a> <b>·</b> <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special%3ALog&amp;page=Template%3AUse+Hiberno-English">logs</a> <b>·</b> <a href="/wiki/Special:PrefixIndex/Template:Use_Hiberno-English/" title="Special:PrefixIndex/Template:Use Hiberno-English/">subpages</a>)</span></li></ul> <p>The article <a href="/wiki/Hiberno-English" title="Hiberno-English">Hiberno-English</a> clearly and competently explains that <style data-mw-deduplicate="TemplateStyles:r1248585704">@media screen{html.skin-theme-clientpref-night .mw-parser-output .inline-quote-talk{color:#00B785}}@media screen and (prefers-color-scheme:dark){html.skin-theme-clientpref-os .mw-parser-output .inline-quote-talk{color:#00B785}}.mw-parser-output .inline-quote-talk{font-family:Georgia,"DejaVu Serif",serif;color:#008560;quotes:none}.mw-parser-output .inline-quote-talk-italic{font-family:inherit;font-style:italic}.mw-parser-output .inline-quote-talk-marks{quotes:"\"""\""}</style><q class="inline-quote-talk">Irish English's writing standards, such as its spelling, align with British English.</q> The rest of the article explains the differences in pronunciation (not relevant since Wikipedia is a written medium) and regionalisms (also not relevant because <a href="/wiki/MOS:COMMONALITY" class="mw-redirect" title="MOS:COMMONALITY">MOS:COMMONALITY</a> says not to use regionalisms: <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1248585704"><q class="inline-quote-talk">Use a commonly understood word or phrase in preference to one that has a different meaning because of national differences</q>). </p><p>I propose that these templates are redundant and that they should be redirected to <span class="nowrap">{{</span><a href="/wiki/Template:Use_British_English" title="Template:Use British English">Use British English</a><span class="nowrap">}}</span> and <span class="nowrap">{{</span><a href="/wiki/Template:British_English" title="Template:British English">British English</a><span class="nowrap">}}</span>. </p><p>There is a detailed discussion about these and similar templates happening at <a href="/wiki/Template_talk:EngvarB#More_low-hanging_fruit" title="Template talk:EngvarB">Template talk:EngvarB</a>. – <a href="/wiki/User:Jonesey95" title="User:Jonesey95">Jonesey95</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Jonesey95" title="User talk:Jonesey95">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Templates_for_discussion/Log/2024_November_22#c-Jonesey95-20241122233400-Template:Hiberno-English" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:34, 22 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Jonesey95-20241122233400-Template:Hiberno-English"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span 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id="c-Retro-20241123003500-Jonesey95-20241122233400"></span>Redirect</b> per nom, absent compelling evidence of relevant orthographic differences. <a href="/wiki/User:Retro" title="User:Retro"><span style="color:red">Retro</span></a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Retro#top" title="User talk:Retro"><span style="color:green">talk</span></a> | <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Retro" title="Special:Contributions/Retro"><span style="color:blue">contribs</span></a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Templates_for_discussion/Log/2024_November_22#c-Retro-20241123003500-Jonesey95-20241122233400" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:35, 23 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Retro-20241123003500-Jonesey95-20241122233400"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span 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Templates like these should be used to help editors and all these do is create confusion. <a href="/wiki/User:Johnuniq" title="User:Johnuniq">Johnuniq</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Johnuniq" title="User talk:Johnuniq">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Templates_for_discussion/Log/2024_November_22#c-Johnuniq-20241123013000-Jonesey95-20241122233400" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">01:30, 23 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Johnuniq-20241123013000-Jonesey95-20241122233400"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241123013000","author":"Johnuniq","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Johnuniq-20241123013000-Jonesey95-20241122233400","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Johnuniq-20241123013000-Jonesey95-20241122233400"></span></li> <li><b><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Jonesey95-20241123023400-Jonesey95-20241122233400"></span>Comment</b>: Please also note that the <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Templates_for_discussion/Log/2019_April_6#No-display_English_variant_types" title="Wikipedia:Templates for discussion/Log/2019 April 6">previous TFD</a> that resulted in a "keep" outcome had a completely different rationale. The "Keep some" !votes at that TFD are worth reading. – <a href="/wiki/User:Jonesey95" title="User:Jonesey95">Jonesey95</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Jonesey95" title="User talk:Jonesey95">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Templates_for_discussion/Log/2024_November_22#c-Jonesey95-20241123023400-Jonesey95-20241122233400" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">02:34, 23 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Jonesey95-20241123023400-Jonesey95-20241122233400"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241123023400","author":"Jonesey95","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Jonesey95-20241123023400-Jonesey95-20241122233400","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Jonesey95-20241123023400-Jonesey95-20241122233400"></span></li></ul> <ul><li><small class="delsort-notice"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Spideog-20241123112500-Jonesey95-20241122233400"></span>Note: This discussion has been included in the <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Deletion_sorting/Ireland" title="Wikipedia:WikiProject Deletion sorting/Ireland">list of Ireland-related deletion discussions</a>. <a href="/wiki/User:Spideog" title="User:Spideog">Spideog</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Spideog" title="User talk:Spideog">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Templates_for_discussion/Log/2024_November_22#c-Spideog-20241123112500-Jonesey95-20241122233400" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:25, 23 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Spideog-20241123112500-Jonesey95-20241122233400"></span></small><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Spideog-20241123112500-Jonesey95-20241122233400"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241123112500","author":"Spideog","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Spideog-20241123112500-Jonesey95-20241122233400","replies":[]}}--></span></li></ul> <ul><li><b><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Spideog-20241123112800-Jonesey95-20241122233400"></span>Keep</b> The templates provides a helpful guide to the variety of English that prevails in the article. I check English variant before editing. <a href="/wiki/User:Spideog" title="User:Spideog">Spideog</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Spideog" title="User talk:Spideog">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Templates_for_discussion/Log/2024_November_22#c-Spideog-20241123112800-Jonesey95-20241122233400" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:28, 23 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Spideog-20241123112800-Jonesey95-20241122233400"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241123112800","author":"Spideog","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Spideog-20241123112800-Jonesey95-20241122233400","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Spideog-20241123112800-Jonesey95-20241122233400"></span></li> <li><b><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Serial_Number_54129-20241123113600-Jonesey95-20241122233400"></span>Coinnigh é</b> Tá siad úsáideach le haghaidh earraí Gaeilge. <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Serial_Number_54129" title="User talk:Serial Number 54129"><b style="color:#7a0427;">SerialNumber</b></a><i><a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Serial_Number_54129" title="Special:Contributions/Serial Number 54129"><b style="color:#17662c;">54129</b></a></i> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Templates_for_discussion/Log/2024_November_22#c-Serial_Number_54129-20241123113600-Jonesey95-20241122233400" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:36, 23 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Serial_Number_54129-20241123113600-Jonesey95-20241122233400"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241123113600","author":"Serial Number 54129","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Serial_Number_54129-20241123113600-Jonesey95-20241122233400","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Serial_Number_54129-20241123113600-Jonesey95-20241122233400"></span></li> <li><b><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Guliolopez-20241123131700-Jonesey95-20241122233400"></span>Keep</b>. From a practical perspective, and as noted in the <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Templates_for_discussion/Log/2019_April_6#No-display_English_variant_types" title="Wikipedia:Templates for discussion/Log/2019 April 6">previous TfD discussion</a>, there is some value in having separate <code>{{Use Irish English}}</code> and <code>{{Use British English}}</code> templates. Not least given the use of Irish language words in the former. (Like <i>Taoiseach</i> (over PM), <i>Gardaí</i> (not police), <i>Oireachtas</i> (not parliament), <i>Gaeltacht</i>, <i>sliotar</i>, etc.) Otherwise it seems to me that the nom hasn't considered the disruption likely to be caused by this proposed change. (Perhaps not on the same "nuclear" scale as merging <code>{{Use Indian English}}</code> and <code>{{Use Pakistani English}}</code> - but in the same ballpark. To see what I mean, try adding <code>{{Use British English}}</code> to the <a href="/wiki/Sinn_F%C3%A9in" title="Sinn Féin">Sinn Féin</a> or <a href="/wiki/Provisional_Irish_Republican_Army" title="Provisional Irish Republican Army">Provisional Irish Republican Army</a> or articles - and see what noise is generated.) Otherwise, IMO, the proposed change seems like a solution looking for a problem... <a href="/wiki/User:Guliolopez" title="User:Guliolopez">Guliolopez</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Guliolopez" title="User talk:Guliolopez">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Templates_for_discussion/Log/2024_November_22#c-Guliolopez-20241123131700-Jonesey95-20241122233400" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:17, 23 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Guliolopez-20241123131700-Jonesey95-20241122233400"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241123131700","author":"Guliolopez","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Guliolopez-20241123131700-Jonesey95-20241122233400","replies":["c-Guliolopez-20241123140300-Guliolopez-20241123131700"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Guliolopez-20241123131700-Jonesey95-20241122233400"></span></li></ul> <dl><dd><ul><li><b><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Guliolopez-20241123140300-Guliolopez-20241123131700"></span>Comment/clarify</b>. To clarify what I mean about <code>{{Use Irish English}}</code> and <code>{{Use British English}}</code> and the treatment of Irish loan words. In <a href="/wiki/Margaret_Thatcher" title="Margaret Thatcher">Margaret Thatcher</a> (appropriately tagged with <code>{{Use British English}}</code>), the term <i>Taoiseach</i> is both linked AND explained ("<link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1248585704"><q class="inline-quote-talk">Taoiseach (Irish prime minister)</q>"). This is because this term is not routinely used (and therefore requires clarification) in "British English". While in <a href="/wiki/Garret_FitzGerald" title="Garret FitzGerald">Garret FitzGerald</a> (tagged differently/appropriately) the term <i>Taoiseach</i> is simply linked. Without definition. Because, in "Irish English", it doesn't require clarification. <a href="/wiki/User:Guliolopez" title="User:Guliolopez">Guliolopez</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Guliolopez" title="User talk:Guliolopez">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Templates_for_discussion/Log/2024_November_22#c-Guliolopez-20241123140300-Guliolopez-20241123131700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:03, 23 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Guliolopez-20241123140300-Guliolopez-20241123131700"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241123140300","author":"Guliolopez","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Guliolopez-20241123140300-Guliolopez-20241123131700","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Guliolopez-20241123140300-Guliolopez-20241123131700"></span></li></ul></dd></dl> <ul><li><b><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Spleodrach-20241123132000-Jonesey95-20241122233400"></span>Keep</b> per Guliolopez. <a href="/wiki/User:Spleodrach" title="User:Spleodrach">Spleodrach</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Spleodrach" title="User talk:Spleodrach">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Templates_for_discussion/Log/2024_November_22#c-Spleodrach-20241123132000-Jonesey95-20241122233400" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:20, 23 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Spleodrach-20241123132000-Jonesey95-20241122233400"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241123132000","author":"Spleodrach","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Spleodrach-20241123132000-Jonesey95-20241122233400","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Spleodrach-20241123132000-Jonesey95-20241122233400"></span></li> <li><b><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-AusLondonder-20241123203200-Jonesey95-20241122233400"></span>Keep</b> I'm failing to see what deleting this actually achieves. I support keeping all the main English-language tags (Australia, Canada, India, Ireland, South Africa etc) per <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:TIES" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:TIES">WP:TIES</a>. Completely endorse what <a href="/wiki/User:Guliolopez" title="User:Guliolopez">Guliolopez</a> has said about the use of Irish loanwords in Irish English. This has been discussed before as a defining feature of Irish English. <a href="/wiki/User:AusLondonder" title="User:AusLondonder">AusLondonder</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:AusLondonder" title="User talk:AusLondonder">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Templates_for_discussion/Log/2024_November_22#c-AusLondonder-20241123203200-Jonesey95-20241122233400" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:32, 23 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-AusLondonder-20241123203200-Jonesey95-20241122233400"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241123203200","author":"AusLondonder","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-AusLondonder-20241123203200-Jonesey95-20241122233400","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-AusLondonder-20241123203200-Jonesey95-20241122233400"></span></li> <li><b><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Alison-20241124025000-Jonesey95-20241122233400"></span>Keep</b> per Guliolopez' excellent summation. Hiberno-English or Irish-English may look the same as British English at a glance, but it is significantly different. As pointed out, there are many loanwords in common usage that are directly derived from the Irish language and native speakers, including those with no knowledge of Irish, will use them regularly. There are also grammatical differences between Hiberno-English and British English. And I'm not sure what confusing the matter by glomming the two distinct dialects together seeks to achieve. If anything, it smacks of <a href="/wiki/Cultural_assimilation" title="Cultural assimilation">cultural assimilation</a>. Our native language was almost wiped out, so now it's time for our dialect to go the same way. No thanks - <a href="/wiki/User:Alison" title="User:Alison"><span style="color:#FF823D;font-family: comic sans ms"><b>A<span style="color: #FF7C0A;">l<span style="color: #FFB550;">is</span>o</span>n</b></span></a> <sup><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Alison" title="User talk:Alison">talk</a></sup> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Templates_for_discussion/Log/2024_November_22#c-Alison-20241124025000-Jonesey95-20241122233400" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">02:50, 24 November 2024 (UTC)</a> <i>(<a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:POV" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:POV">disclosure</a></i>: I'm a native speaker)<i><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Alison-20241124025000-Jonesey95-20241122233400"></span></i><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Alison-20241124025000-Jonesey95-20241122233400"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241124025000","author":"Alison","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Alison-20241124025000-Jonesey95-20241122233400","replies":[]}}--></span></li></ul> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading4"><h4 id="Template:Editnotices/Page/Berenstain_Bears" data-mw-thread-id="h-Template:Editnotices/Page/Berenstain_Bears-November_22-20241122224700"><span id="Template:Editnotices.2FPage.2FBerenstain_Bears"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Template:Editnotices/Page/Berenstain_Bears-November_22-20241122224700"></span><a href="/wiki/Template:Editnotices/Page/Berenstain_Bears" title="Template:Editnotices/Page/Berenstain Bears">Template:Editnotices/Page/Berenstain Bears</a><span data-mw-comment-end="h-Template:Editnotices/Page/Berenstain_Bears-November_22-20241122224700"></span></h4><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Templates_for_discussion/Log/2024_November_22&amp;action=edit&amp;section=4" title="Edit section: Template:Editnotices/Page/Berenstain Bears"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span></div> <ul><li><span id="Template:Editnotices/Page/Berenstain_Bears" class="plainlinks nourlexpansion 1x"><a href="/wiki/Template:Editnotices/Page/Berenstain_Bears" title="Template:Editnotices/Page/Berenstain Bears"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Jonesey95-20241122224700-Template:Editnotices/Page/Berenstain_Bears"></span>Template:Editnotices/Page/Berenstain Bears</a> (<a href="/wiki/Template_talk:Editnotices/Page/Berenstain_Bears" title="Template talk:Editnotices/Page/Berenstain Bears">talk</a> <b>·</b> <a href="/wiki/Special:PageHistory/Template:Editnotices/Page/Berenstain_Bears" title="Special:PageHistory/Template:Editnotices/Page/Berenstain Bears">history</a> <b>·</b> <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special%3AWhatlinkshere%2FTemplate%3AEditnotices%2FPage%2FBerenstain+Bears&amp;limit=5000&amp;hidelinks=1&amp;hideredirs=1">transclusions</a> <b>·</b> <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special%3ALog&amp;page=Template%3AEditnotices%2FPage%2FBerenstain+Bears">logs</a> <b>·</b> <a href="/wiki/Special:PrefixIndex/Template:Editnotices/Page/Berenstain_Bears/" title="Special:PrefixIndex/Template:Editnotices/Page/Berenstain Bears/">subpages</a>)</span></li></ul> <p>Editnotice blanked in early 2024 as no longer applicable. No longer used. – <a href="/wiki/User:Jonesey95" title="User:Jonesey95">Jonesey95</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Jonesey95" title="User talk:Jonesey95">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Templates_for_discussion/Log/2024_November_22#c-Jonesey95-20241122224700-Template:Editnotices/Page/Berenstain_Bears" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:47, 22 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Jonesey95-20241122224700-Template:Editnotices/Page/Berenstain_Bears"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241122224700","author":"Jonesey95","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Jonesey95-20241122224700-Template:Editnotices\/Page\/Berenstain_Bears","replies":["c-Serial_Number_54129-20241123155900-Jonesey95-20241122224700"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Jonesey95-20241122224700-Template:Editnotices/Page/Berenstain_Bears"></span> </p> <ul><li><b><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Serial_Number_54129-20241123155900-Jonesey95-20241122224700"></span>Delete</b> per nom and bizarre. <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Serial_Number_54129" title="User talk:Serial Number 54129"><b style="color:#7a0427;">SerialNumber</b></a><i><a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Serial_Number_54129" title="Special:Contributions/Serial Number 54129"><b style="color:#17662c;">54129</b></a></i> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Templates_for_discussion/Log/2024_November_22#c-Serial_Number_54129-20241123155900-Jonesey95-20241122224700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:59, 23 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Serial_Number_54129-20241123155900-Jonesey95-20241122224700"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241123155900","author":"Serial Number 54129","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Serial_Number_54129-20241123155900-Jonesey95-20241122224700","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Serial_Number_54129-20241123155900-Jonesey95-20241122224700"></span></li></ul> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading4"><h4 id="Template:Editnotices/Page/E-kid" data-mw-thread-id="h-Template:Editnotices/Page/E-kid-November_22-20241122173500"><span id="Template:Editnotices.2FPage.2FE-kid"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Template:Editnotices/Page/E-kid-November_22-20241122173500"></span><a href="/wiki/Template:Editnotices/Page/E-kid" title="Template:Editnotices/Page/E-kid">Template:Editnotices/Page/E-kid</a><span data-mw-comment-end="h-Template:Editnotices/Page/E-kid-November_22-20241122173500"></span></h4><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Templates_for_discussion/Log/2024_November_22&amp;action=edit&amp;section=5" title="Edit section: Template:Editnotices/Page/E-kid"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span></div> <ul><li><span id="Template:Editnotices/Page/E-kid" class="plainlinks nourlexpansion 1x"><a href="/wiki/Template:Editnotices/Page/E-kid" title="Template:Editnotices/Page/E-kid"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Jonesey95-20241122173500-Template:Editnotices/Page/E-kid"></span>Template:Editnotices/Page/E-kid</a> (<a href="/wiki/Template_talk:Editnotices/Page/E-kid" title="Template talk:Editnotices/Page/E-kid">talk</a> <b>·</b> <a href="/wiki/Special:PageHistory/Template:Editnotices/Page/E-kid" title="Special:PageHistory/Template:Editnotices/Page/E-kid">history</a> <b>·</b> <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special%3AWhatlinkshere%2FTemplate%3AEditnotices%2FPage%2FE-kid&amp;limit=5000&amp;hidelinks=1&amp;hideredirs=1">transclusions</a> <b>·</b> <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special%3ALog&amp;page=Template%3AEditnotices%2FPage%2FE-kid">logs</a> <b>·</b> <a href="/wiki/Special:PrefixIndex/Template:Editnotices/Page/E-kid/" title="Special:PrefixIndex/Template:Editnotices/Page/E-kid/">subpages</a>)</span></li></ul> <p>Editnotice blanked because it was no longer needed. See talk page for details. – <a href="/wiki/User:Jonesey95" title="User:Jonesey95">Jonesey95</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Jonesey95" title="User talk:Jonesey95">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Templates_for_discussion/Log/2024_November_22#c-Jonesey95-20241122173500-Template:Editnotices/Page/E-kid" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:35, 22 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Jonesey95-20241122173500-Template:Editnotices/Page/E-kid"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241122173500","author":"Jonesey95","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Jonesey95-20241122173500-Template:Editnotices\/Page\/E-kid","replies":["c-Serial_Number_54129-20241123160000-Jonesey95-20241122173500"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Jonesey95-20241122173500-Template:Editnotices/Page/E-kid"></span> </p> <ul><li><b><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Serial_Number_54129-20241123160000-Jonesey95-20241122173500"></span>Delete</b> per nom and TP. <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Serial_Number_54129" title="User talk:Serial Number 54129"><b style="color:#7a0427;">SerialNumber</b></a><i><a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Serial_Number_54129" title="Special:Contributions/Serial Number 54129"><b style="color:#17662c;">54129</b></a></i> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Templates_for_discussion/Log/2024_November_22#c-Serial_Number_54129-20241123160000-Jonesey95-20241122173500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:00, 23 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Serial_Number_54129-20241123160000-Jonesey95-20241122173500"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241123160000","author":"Serial Number 54129","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Serial_Number_54129-20241123160000-Jonesey95-20241122173500","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Serial_Number_54129-20241123160000-Jonesey95-20241122173500"></span></li></ul> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading4"><h4 id="Template:Deprecated_stub" data-mw-thread-id="h-Template:Deprecated_stub-November_22-20241122170700"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Template:Deprecated_stub-November_22-20241122170700"></span><a href="/wiki/Template:Deprecated_stub" title="Template:Deprecated stub">Template:Deprecated stub</a><span data-mw-comment-end="h-Template:Deprecated_stub-November_22-20241122170700"></span></h4><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Templates_for_discussion/Log/2024_November_22&amp;action=edit&amp;section=6" title="Edit section: Template:Deprecated stub"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span></div> <ul><li><span id="Template:Deprecated_stub" class="plainlinks nourlexpansion 1x"><a href="/wiki/Template:Deprecated_stub" title="Template:Deprecated stub"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Jonesey95-20241122170700-Template:Deprecated_stub"></span>Template:Deprecated stub</a> (<a href="/wiki/Template_talk:Deprecated_stub" title="Template talk:Deprecated stub">talk</a> <b>·</b> <a href="/wiki/Special:PageHistory/Template:Deprecated_stub" title="Special:PageHistory/Template:Deprecated stub">history</a> <b>·</b> <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special%3AWhatlinkshere%2FTemplate%3ADeprecated+stub&amp;limit=5000&amp;hidelinks=1&amp;hideredirs=1">transclusions</a> <b>·</b> <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special%3ALog&amp;page=Template%3ADeprecated+stub">logs</a> <b>·</b> <a href="/wiki/Special:PrefixIndex/Template:Deprecated_stub/" title="Special:PrefixIndex/Template:Deprecated stub/">subpages</a>)</span></li></ul> <p>No transclusions. There is limited discussion linking to this template, most of which is from 2010, when it was created. I don't know if it was ever used, or just transcluded in one place until recently, when it showed up on the unused template reports. </p><p>It may be redundant to <span class="nowrap">{{</span><a href="/wiki/Template:Deprecated_template" title="Template:Deprecated template">Deprecated template</a><span class="nowrap">}}</span>. </p><p>If it is used only sometimes, it should have <span class="nowrap">{{</span><a href="/wiki/Template:Transclusionless" title="Template:Transclusionless">transclusionless</a><span class="nowrap">}}</span> added to its documentation, with an explanation. – <a href="/wiki/User:Jonesey95" title="User:Jonesey95">Jonesey95</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Jonesey95" title="User talk:Jonesey95">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Templates_for_discussion/Log/2024_November_22#c-Jonesey95-20241122170700-Template:Deprecated_stub" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:07, 22 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Jonesey95-20241122170700-Template:Deprecated_stub"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241122170700","author":"Jonesey95","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Jonesey95-20241122170700-Template:Deprecated_stub","replies":["c-Grutness-20241123045300-Jonesey95-20241122170700"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Jonesey95-20241122170700-Template:Deprecated_stub"></span> </p> <ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Grutness-20241123045300-Jonesey95-20241122170700"></span>It's not entirely redundant to <span class="nowrap">{{</span><a href="/wiki/Template:Deprecated_template" title="Template:Deprecated template">Deprecated template</a><span class="nowrap">}}</span>. It's always substituted rather than transcluded, and is only used rarely. Not sure how many stub templates it currently (or ever) been used on, but deprecated stub templates are usually cleared quickly and either deleted or redirected. Don't think losing it will cause much problem. Originally it was made because a few parent stub types were regularly sorted out (e.g., <span class="nowrap">{{</span><a href="/wiki/Template:Geo-stub" title="Template:Geo-stub">geo-stub</a><span class="nowrap">}}</span> to all its by-country children), and someone who didn't know how stubbinng worked would nominate the emptied template for deletion. I think there are other templates that will stop that happening though. <a href="/wiki/User:Grutness" title="User:Grutness">Grutness</a>...<i><small><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Grutness" title="User talk:Grutness"><span style="color: #008822;">wha?</span></a></small></i> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Templates_for_discussion/Log/2024_November_22#c-Grutness-20241123045300-Jonesey95-20241122170700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">04:53, 23 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Grutness-20241123045300-Jonesey95-20241122170700"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241123045300","author":"Grutness","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Grutness-20241123045300-Jonesey95-20241122170700","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Grutness-20241123045300-Jonesey95-20241122170700"></span></li></ul> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading4"><h4 id="Template:CURRENTCENTURY" data-mw-thread-id="h-Template:CURRENTCENTURY-November_22-20241122165700"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Template:CURRENTCENTURY-November_22-20241122165700"></span><a href="/wiki/Template:CURRENTCENTURY" title="Template:CURRENTCENTURY">Template:CURRENTCENTURY</a><span data-mw-comment-end="h-Template:CURRENTCENTURY-November_22-20241122165700"></span></h4><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Templates_for_discussion/Log/2024_November_22&amp;action=edit&amp;section=7" title="Edit section: Template:CURRENTCENTURY"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span></div> <ul><li><span id="Template:CURRENTCENTURY" class="plainlinks nourlexpansion 1x"><a href="/wiki/Template:CURRENTCENTURY" title="Template:CURRENTCENTURY"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-TheWikipede-20241122165700-Template:CURRENTCENTURY"></span>Template:CURRENTCENTURY</a> (<a href="/wiki/Template_talk:CURRENTCENTURY" title="Template talk:CURRENTCENTURY">talk</a> <b>·</b> <a href="/wiki/Special:PageHistory/Template:CURRENTCENTURY" title="Special:PageHistory/Template:CURRENTCENTURY">history</a> <b>·</b> <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special%3AWhatlinkshere%2FTemplate%3ACURRENTCENTURY&amp;limit=5000&amp;hidelinks=1&amp;hideredirs=1">transclusions</a> <b>·</b> <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special%3ALog&amp;page=Template%3ACURRENTCENTURY">logs</a> <b>·</b> <a href="/wiki/Special:PrefixIndex/Template:CURRENTCENTURY/" title="Special:PrefixIndex/Template:CURRENTCENTURY/">subpages</a>)</span></li></ul> <p>This could easily be manually updated by hand since centuries only change every 100 years, and I don't even think Wikipedia will last that long. If it somehow does the current century can easily be changed. <a href="/wiki/User:TheWikipede" class="mw-redirect" title="User:TheWikipede"><span style="font-family: monospace; color: blue; text-shadow: 0px 0px 10px lightblue;">TheWikipede</span></a><sup><a href="/wiki/User_talk:TheWikipede" class="mw-redirect" title="User talk:TheWikipede"><span style="font-family: monospace; color: blue;"><i>talk</i></span></a></sup> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Templates_for_discussion/Log/2024_November_22#c-TheWikipede-20241122165700-Template:CURRENTCENTURY" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:57, 22 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-TheWikipede-20241122165700-Template:CURRENTCENTURY"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241122165700","author":"TheWikipede","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-TheWikipede-20241122165700-Template:CURRENTCENTURY","replies":["c-Jonesey95-20241122172300-TheWikipede-20241122165700"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-TheWikipede-20241122165700-Template:CURRENTCENTURY"></span> </p> <ul><li><b><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Jonesey95-20241122172300-TheWikipede-20241122165700"></span>Comment</b>: This template appears to be useful from a programming clarity standpoint. This template appears to be used at <span class="nowrap">{{</span><a href="/wiki/Template:Year_category_header/core" title="Template:Year category header/core">Year category header/core</a><span class="nowrap">}}</span>. Using the template there makes it clear what the math is doing, in a situation where typing "21" might necessitate a hidden comment. – <a href="/wiki/User:Jonesey95" title="User:Jonesey95">Jonesey95</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Jonesey95" title="User talk:Jonesey95">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Templates_for_discussion/Log/2024_November_22#c-Jonesey95-20241122172300-TheWikipede-20241122165700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:23, 22 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Jonesey95-20241122172300-TheWikipede-20241122165700"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241122172300","author":"Jonesey95","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Jonesey95-20241122172300-TheWikipede-20241122165700","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Jonesey95-20241122172300-TheWikipede-20241122165700"></span></li></ul> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading4"><h4 id="Template:Billie_the_Vision_&amp;_the_Dancers" data-mw-thread-id="h-Template:Billie_the_Vision_&amp;_the_Dancers-November_22-20241122150400"><span id="Template:Billie_the_Vision_.26_the_Dancers"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Template:Billie_the_Vision_&amp;_the_Dancers-November_22-20241122150400"></span><a href="/wiki/Template:Billie_the_Vision_%26_the_Dancers" title="Template:Billie the Vision &amp; the Dancers">Template:Billie the Vision &amp; the Dancers</a><span data-mw-comment-end="h-Template:Billie_the_Vision_&amp;_the_Dancers-November_22-20241122150400"></span></h4><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Templates_for_discussion/Log/2024_November_22&amp;action=edit&amp;section=8" title="Edit section: Template:Billie the Vision &amp; the Dancers"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span></div> <ul><li><span id="Template:Billie_the_Vision_&amp;_the_Dancers" class="plainlinks nourlexpansion 1x"><a href="/wiki/Template:Billie_the_Vision_%26_the_Dancers" title="Template:Billie the Vision &amp; the Dancers"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Woodensuperman-20241122150400-Template:Billie_the_Vision_&amp;_the_Dancers"></span>Template:Billie the Vision &amp; the Dancers</a> (<a href="/wiki/Template_talk:Billie_the_Vision_%26_the_Dancers" title="Template talk:Billie the Vision &amp; the Dancers">talk</a> <b>·</b> <a href="/wiki/Special:PageHistory/Template:Billie_the_Vision_%26_the_Dancers" title="Special:PageHistory/Template:Billie the Vision &amp; the Dancers">history</a> <b>·</b> <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special%3AWhatlinkshere%2FTemplate%3ABillie+the+Vision+%26+the+Dancers&amp;limit=5000&amp;hidelinks=1&amp;hideredirs=1">transclusions</a> <b>·</b> <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special%3ALog&amp;page=Template%3ABillie+the+Vision+%26+the+Dancers">logs</a> <b>·</b> <a href="/wiki/Special:PrefixIndex/Template:Billie_the_Vision_%26_the_Dancers/" title="Special:PrefixIndex/Template:Billie the Vision &amp; the Dancers/">subpages</a>)</span></li></ul> <p>Only one album, so useless for navigation. <b>--<a href="/wiki/User:Woodensuperman" title="User:Woodensuperman"><span style="background:yellow; color:red;;">wooden</span></a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Woodensuperman" title="User talk:Woodensuperman"><span style="background:yellow; color:blue;;">superman</span></a></b> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Templates_for_discussion/Log/2024_November_22#c-Woodensuperman-20241122150400-Template:Billie_the_Vision_&amp;_the_Dancers" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:04, 22 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Woodensuperman-20241122150400-Template:Billie_the_Vision_&amp;_the_Dancers"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241122150400","author":"Woodensuperman","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Woodensuperman-20241122150400-Template:Billie_the_Vision_&amp;_the_Dancers","replies":["c-Jonesey95-20241122235300-Woodensuperman-20241122150400"],"displayName":"wooden"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Woodensuperman-20241122150400-Template:Billie_the_Vision_&amp;_the_Dancers"></span> </p> <ul><li><b><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Jonesey95-20241122235300-Woodensuperman-20241122150400"></span>Delete</b>. This is a navbox that is not sufficiently useful for navigation. – <a href="/wiki/User:Jonesey95" title="User:Jonesey95">Jonesey95</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Jonesey95" title="User talk:Jonesey95">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Templates_for_discussion/Log/2024_November_22#c-Jonesey95-20241122235300-Woodensuperman-20241122150400" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:53, 22 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Jonesey95-20241122235300-Woodensuperman-20241122150400"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241122235300","author":"Jonesey95","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Jonesey95-20241122235300-Woodensuperman-20241122150400","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Jonesey95-20241122235300-Woodensuperman-20241122150400"></span></li></ul> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading4"><h4 id="Template:Egyptian_royal_family" data-mw-thread-id="h-Template:Egyptian_royal_family-November_22-20241114232100"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Template:Egyptian_royal_family-November_22-20241114232100"></span><a href="/wiki/Template:Egyptian_royal_family" title="Template:Egyptian royal family">Template:Egyptian royal family</a><span data-mw-comment-end="h-Template:Egyptian_royal_family-November_22-20241114232100"></span></h4><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Templates_for_discussion/Log/2024_November_22&amp;action=edit&amp;section=9" title="Edit section: Template:Egyptian royal family"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span></div> <ul><li><span id="Template:Egyptian_royal_family" class="plainlinks nourlexpansion 1x"><a href="/wiki/Template:Egyptian_royal_family" title="Template:Egyptian royal family"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-2601:249:9301:D570:9061:13F5:EDBD:C800-20241114232100-Template:Egyptian_royal_family"></span>Template:Egyptian royal family</a> (<a href="/wiki/Template_talk:Egyptian_royal_family" title="Template talk:Egyptian royal family">talk</a> <b>·</b> <a href="/wiki/Special:PageHistory/Template:Egyptian_royal_family" title="Special:PageHistory/Template:Egyptian royal family">history</a> <b>·</b> <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special%3AWhatlinkshere%2FTemplate%3AEgyptian+royal+family&amp;limit=5000&amp;hidelinks=1&amp;hideredirs=1">transclusions</a> <b>·</b> <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special%3ALog&amp;page=Template%3AEgyptian+royal+family">logs</a> <b>·</b> <a href="/wiki/Special:PrefixIndex/Template:Egyptian_royal_family/" title="Special:PrefixIndex/Template:Egyptian royal family/">subpages</a>)</span></li></ul> <p>Page contains less than five people, all of whom are closely related and would already be linked together, limiting its usefulness. <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/2601:249:9301:D570:9061:13F5:EDBD:C800" title="Special:Contributions/2601:249:9301:D570:9061:13F5:EDBD:C800">2601:249:9301:D570:9061:13F5:EDBD:C800</a> (<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:2601:249:9301:D570:9061:13F5:EDBD:C800&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:2601:249:9301:D570:9061:13F5:EDBD:C800 (page does not exist)">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Templates_for_discussion/Log/2024_November_22#c-2601:249:9301:D570:9061:13F5:EDBD:C800-20241114232100-Template:Egyptian_royal_family" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:21, 14 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-2601:249:9301:D570:9061:13F5:EDBD:C800-20241114232100-Template:Egyptian_royal_family"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span 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Remove non-links. This has enough links for a viable navigation template. <a href="/wiki/User:Gonnym" title="User:Gonnym">Gonnym</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Gonnym" title="User talk:Gonnym">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Templates_for_discussion/Log/2024_November_22#c-Gonnym-20241117142200-2601:249:9301:D570:9061:13F5:EDBD:C800-20241114232100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:22, 17 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Gonnym-20241117142200-2601:249:9301:D570:9061:13F5:EDBD:C800-20241114232100"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241117142200","author":"Gonnym","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Gonnym-20241117142200-2601:249:9301:D570:9061:13F5:EDBD:C800-20241114232100","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Gonnym-20241117142200-2601:249:9301:D570:9061:13F5:EDBD:C800-20241114232100"></span></dd></dl> <ul><li><b><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-WikiCleanerMan-20241117220000-2601:249:9301:D570:9061:13F5:EDBD:C800-20241114232100"></span>Delete</b> We already have <a href="/wiki/Template:Muhammad_Ali_dynasty" title="Template:Muhammad Ali dynasty">Template:Muhammad Ali dynasty</a> as a navbox for the Egyptian royal family or at least the very last one. --<a href="/wiki/User:WikiCleanerMan" title="User:WikiCleanerMan">WikiCleanerMan</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:WikiCleanerMan" title="User talk:WikiCleanerMan">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Templates_for_discussion/Log/2024_November_22#c-WikiCleanerMan-20241117220000-2601:249:9301:D570:9061:13F5:EDBD:C800-20241114232100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:00, 17 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-WikiCleanerMan-20241117220000-2601:249:9301:D570:9061:13F5:EDBD:C800-20241114232100"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241117220000","author":"WikiCleanerMan","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-WikiCleanerMan-20241117220000-2601:249:9301:D570:9061:13F5:EDBD:C800-20241114232100","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-WikiCleanerMan-20241117220000-2601:249:9301:D570:9061:13F5:EDBD:C800-20241114232100"></span></li></ul> <dl><dd><p class="xfd_relist" style="margin:0 0 0 -1em;border-top: 1px solid #AAA; border-bottom: 1px solid #AAA; padding: 0px 2em;"><span style="color: #FF6600;"><b><span style="font-size:91%;"><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Deletion_process#Relisting_discussions" title="Wikipedia:Deletion process"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Explicit-20241122141900-2601:249:9301:D570:9061:13F5:EDBD:C800-20241114232100"></span>Relisted</a> to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.</span></b></span><br/><small>Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, <a href="/wiki/User:Explicit" title="User:Explicit"><span style="color:#000000">✗</span></a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Explicit" title="User talk:Explicit"><span style="color:white;background:black;font-family:felix titling;font-size:80%">plicit</span></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Templates_for_discussion/Log/2024_November_22#c-Explicit-20241122141900-2601:249:9301:D570:9061:13F5:EDBD:C800-20241114232100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:19, 22 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Explicit-20241122141900-2601:249:9301:D570:9061:13F5:EDBD:C800-20241114232100"></span></small><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Explicit-20241122141900-2601:249:9301:D570:9061:13F5:EDBD:C800-20241114232100"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241122141900","author":"Explicit","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Explicit-20241122141900-2601:249:9301:D570:9061:13F5:EDBD:C800-20241114232100","replies":[],"displayName":"\u2717"}}--></span></p></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading4"><h4 id="Template:TAT_(band)" data-mw-thread-id="h-Template:TAT_(band)-November_22-20241122100300"><span id="Template:TAT_.28band.29"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Template:TAT_(band)-November_22-20241122100300"></span><a href="/wiki/Template:TAT_(band)" title="Template:TAT (band)">Template:TAT (band)</a><span data-mw-comment-end="h-Template:TAT_(band)-November_22-20241122100300"></span></h4><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Templates_for_discussion/Log/2024_November_22&amp;action=edit&amp;section=10" title="Edit section: Template:TAT (band)"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span></div> <ul><li><span id="Template:TAT_(band)" class="plainlinks nourlexpansion 1x"><a href="/wiki/Template:TAT_(band)" title="Template:TAT (band)"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Muhandes-20241122100300-Template:TAT_(band)"></span>Template:TAT (band)</a> (<a href="/wiki/Template_talk:TAT_(band)" title="Template talk:TAT (band)">talk</a> <b>·</b> <a href="/wiki/Special:PageHistory/Template:TAT_(band)" title="Special:PageHistory/Template:TAT (band)">history</a> <b>·</b> <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special%3AWhatlinkshere%2FTemplate%3ATAT+%28band%29&amp;limit=5000&amp;hidelinks=1&amp;hideredirs=1">transclusions</a> <b>·</b> <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special%3ALog&amp;page=Template%3ATAT+%28band%29">logs</a> <b>·</b> <a href="/wiki/Special:PrefixIndex/Template:TAT_(band)/" title="Special:PrefixIndex/Template:TAT (band)/">subpages</a>)</span></li></ul> <p>This is a template I authored many years ago which no longer satisfies <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:NENAN" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:NENAN">the rule of five</a> so I'm self nominating it for deletion. <a href="/wiki/User:Muhandes" title="User:Muhandes">Muhandes</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Muhandes" title="User talk:Muhandes">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Templates_for_discussion/Log/2024_November_22#c-Muhandes-20241122100300-Template:TAT_(band)" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:03, 22 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Muhandes-20241122100300-Template:TAT_(band)"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241122100300","author":"Muhandes","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Muhandes-20241122100300-Template:TAT_(band)","replies":["c-Jonesey95-20241122235300-Muhandes-20241122100300"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Muhandes-20241122100300-Template:TAT_(band)"></span> </p> <ul><li><b><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Jonesey95-20241122235300-Muhandes-20241122100300"></span>Delete</b>. This is a navbox that is not sufficiently useful for navigation. – <a href="/wiki/User:Jonesey95" title="User:Jonesey95">Jonesey95</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Jonesey95" title="User talk:Jonesey95">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Templates_for_discussion/Log/2024_November_22#c-Jonesey95-20241122235300-Muhandes-20241122100300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:53, 22 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Jonesey95-20241122235300-Muhandes-20241122100300"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241122235300","author":"Jonesey95","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Jonesey95-20241122235300-Muhandes-20241122100300","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Jonesey95-20241122235300-Muhandes-20241122100300"></span></li></ul> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading4"><h4 id="Template:Novembre" data-mw-thread-id="h-Template:Novembre-November_22-20241122093100"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Template:Novembre-November_22-20241122093100"></span><a href="/wiki/Template:Novembre" title="Template:Novembre">Template:Novembre</a><span data-mw-comment-end="h-Template:Novembre-November_22-20241122093100"></span></h4><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Templates_for_discussion/Log/2024_November_22&amp;action=edit&amp;section=11" title="Edit section: Template:Novembre"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span></div> <ul><li><span id="Template:Novembre" class="plainlinks nourlexpansion 1x"><a href="/wiki/Template:Novembre" title="Template:Novembre"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Muhandes-20241122093100-Template:Novembre"></span>Template:Novembre</a> (<a href="/wiki/Template_talk:Novembre" title="Template talk:Novembre">talk</a> <b>·</b> <a href="/wiki/Special:PageHistory/Template:Novembre" title="Special:PageHistory/Template:Novembre">history</a> <b>·</b> <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special%3AWhatlinkshere%2FTemplate%3ANovembre&amp;limit=5000&amp;hidelinks=1&amp;hideredirs=1">transclusions</a> <b>·</b> <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special%3ALog&amp;page=Template%3ANovembre">logs</a> <b>·</b> <a href="/wiki/Special:PrefixIndex/Template:Novembre/" title="Special:PrefixIndex/Template:Novembre/">subpages</a>)</span></li></ul> <p>This is a template I authored many years ago which no longer satisfies <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:NENAN" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:NENAN">the rule of five</a> so I'm self nominating it for deletion. <a href="/wiki/User:Muhandes" title="User:Muhandes">Muhandes</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Muhandes" title="User talk:Muhandes">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Templates_for_discussion/Log/2024_November_22#c-Muhandes-20241122093100-Template:Novembre" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:31, 22 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Muhandes-20241122093100-Template:Novembre"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241122093100","author":"Muhandes","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Muhandes-20241122093100-Template:Novembre","replies":["c-Jonesey95-20241122235300-Muhandes-20241122093100"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Muhandes-20241122093100-Template:Novembre"></span> </p> <ul><li><b><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Jonesey95-20241122235300-Muhandes-20241122093100"></span>Delete</b>. This is a navbox that is not sufficiently useful for navigation. – <a href="/wiki/User:Jonesey95" title="User:Jonesey95">Jonesey95</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Jonesey95" title="User talk:Jonesey95">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Templates_for_discussion/Log/2024_November_22#c-Jonesey95-20241122235300-Muhandes-20241122093100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:53, 22 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Jonesey95-20241122235300-Muhandes-20241122093100"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241122235300","author":"Jonesey95","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Jonesey95-20241122235300-Muhandes-20241122093100","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Jonesey95-20241122235300-Muhandes-20241122093100"></span></li></ul> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading4"><h4 id="Template:Kish_Mauve" data-mw-thread-id="h-Template:Kish_Mauve-November_22-20241122090100"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Template:Kish_Mauve-November_22-20241122090100"></span><a href="/wiki/Template:Kish_Mauve" title="Template:Kish Mauve">Template:Kish Mauve</a><span data-mw-comment-end="h-Template:Kish_Mauve-November_22-20241122090100"></span></h4><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Templates_for_discussion/Log/2024_November_22&amp;action=edit&amp;section=12" title="Edit section: Template:Kish Mauve"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span></div> <ul><li><span id="Template:Kish_Mauve" class="plainlinks nourlexpansion 1x"><a href="/wiki/Template:Kish_Mauve" title="Template:Kish Mauve"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Muhandes-20241122090100-Template:Kish_Mauve"></span>Template:Kish Mauve</a> (<a href="/wiki/Template_talk:Kish_Mauve" title="Template talk:Kish Mauve">talk</a> <b>·</b> <a href="/wiki/Special:PageHistory/Template:Kish_Mauve" title="Special:PageHistory/Template:Kish Mauve">history</a> <b>·</b> <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special%3AWhatlinkshere%2FTemplate%3AKish+Mauve&amp;limit=5000&amp;hidelinks=1&amp;hideredirs=1">transclusions</a> <b>·</b> <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special%3ALog&amp;page=Template%3AKish+Mauve">logs</a> <b>·</b> <a href="/wiki/Special:PrefixIndex/Template:Kish_Mauve/" title="Special:PrefixIndex/Template:Kish Mauve/">subpages</a>)</span></li></ul> <p>This is a template I authored many years ago which no longer satisfies <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:NENAN" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:NENAN">the rule of five</a> so I'm self nominating it for deletion. <a href="/wiki/User:Muhandes" title="User:Muhandes">Muhandes</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Muhandes" title="User talk:Muhandes">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Templates_for_discussion/Log/2024_November_22#c-Muhandes-20241122090100-Template:Kish_Mauve" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:01, 22 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Muhandes-20241122090100-Template:Kish_Mauve"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241122090100","author":"Muhandes","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Muhandes-20241122090100-Template:Kish_Mauve","replies":["c-Jonesey95-20241122235300-Muhandes-20241122090100"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Muhandes-20241122090100-Template:Kish_Mauve"></span> </p> <ul><li><b><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Jonesey95-20241122235300-Muhandes-20241122090100"></span>Keep</b>. Six blue links now. I added one link and one Women in Red article stub. – <a href="/wiki/User:Jonesey95" title="User:Jonesey95">Jonesey95</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Jonesey95" title="User talk:Jonesey95">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Templates_for_discussion/Log/2024_November_22#c-Jonesey95-20241122235300-Muhandes-20241122090100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:53, 22 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Jonesey95-20241122235300-Muhandes-20241122090100"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241122235300","author":"Jonesey95","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Jonesey95-20241122235300-Muhandes-20241122090100","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Jonesey95-20241122235300-Muhandes-20241122090100"></span></li></ul> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading4"><h4 id="Template:An_Angle" data-mw-thread-id="h-Template:An_Angle-November_22-20241122082000"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Template:An_Angle-November_22-20241122082000"></span><a href="/wiki/Template:An_Angle" title="Template:An Angle">Template:An Angle</a><span data-mw-comment-end="h-Template:An_Angle-November_22-20241122082000"></span></h4><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Templates_for_discussion/Log/2024_November_22&amp;action=edit&amp;section=13" title="Edit section: Template:An Angle"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span></div> <ul><li><span id="Template:An_Angle" class="plainlinks nourlexpansion 1x"><a href="/wiki/Template:An_Angle" title="Template:An Angle"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Muhandes-20241122082000-Template:An_Angle"></span>Template:An Angle</a> (<a href="/wiki/Template_talk:An_Angle" title="Template talk:An Angle">talk</a> <b>·</b> <a href="/wiki/Special:PageHistory/Template:An_Angle" title="Special:PageHistory/Template:An Angle">history</a> <b>·</b> <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special%3AWhatlinkshere%2FTemplate%3AAn+Angle&amp;limit=5000&amp;hidelinks=1&amp;hideredirs=1">transclusions</a> <b>·</b> <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special%3ALog&amp;page=Template%3AAn+Angle">logs</a> <b>·</b> <a href="/wiki/Special:PrefixIndex/Template:An_Angle/" title="Special:PrefixIndex/Template:An Angle/">subpages</a>)</span></li></ul> <p>This is a template I authored many years ago which no longer satisfies <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:NENAN" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:NENAN">the rule of five</a> so I'm self nominating it for deletion. <a href="/wiki/User:Muhandes" title="User:Muhandes">Muhandes</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Muhandes" title="User talk:Muhandes">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Templates_for_discussion/Log/2024_November_22#c-Muhandes-20241122082000-Template:An_Angle" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">08:20, 22 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Muhandes-20241122082000-Template:An_Angle"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241122082000","author":"Muhandes","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Muhandes-20241122082000-Template:An_Angle","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Muhandes-20241122082000-Template:An_Angle"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading4"><h4 id="Template:Pomigliano_CF_squad" data-mw-thread-id="h-Template:Pomigliano_CF_squad-November_22-20241122051200"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Template:Pomigliano_CF_squad-November_22-20241122051200"></span><a href="/wiki/Template:Pomigliano_CF_squad" title="Template:Pomigliano CF squad">Template:Pomigliano CF squad</a><span data-mw-comment-end="h-Template:Pomigliano_CF_squad-November_22-20241122051200"></span></h4><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Templates_for_discussion/Log/2024_November_22&amp;action=edit&amp;section=14" title="Edit section: Template:Pomigliano CF squad"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span></div> <ul><li><span id="Template:Pomigliano_CF_squad" class="plainlinks nourlexpansion 1x"><a href="/wiki/Template:Pomigliano_CF_squad" title="Template:Pomigliano CF squad"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Joeykai-20241122051200-Template:Pomigliano_CF_squad"></span>Template:Pomigliano CF squad</a> (<a href="/wiki/Template_talk:Pomigliano_CF_squad" title="Template talk:Pomigliano CF squad">talk</a> <b>·</b> <a href="/wiki/Special:PageHistory/Template:Pomigliano_CF_squad" title="Special:PageHistory/Template:Pomigliano CF squad">history</a> <b>·</b> <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special%3AWhatlinkshere%2FTemplate%3APomigliano+CF+squad&amp;limit=5000&amp;hidelinks=1&amp;hideredirs=1">transclusions</a> <b>·</b> <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special%3ALog&amp;page=Template%3APomigliano+CF+squad">logs</a> <b>·</b> <a href="/wiki/Special:PrefixIndex/Template:Pomigliano_CF_squad/" title="Special:PrefixIndex/Template:Pomigliano CF squad/">subpages</a>)</span></li></ul> <p>no "current squad" template needed; team is not active during the 2024-25 season <a href="/wiki/User:Joeykai" title="User:Joeykai">Joeykai</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Joeykai" title="User talk:Joeykai">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Templates_for_discussion/Log/2024_November_22#c-Joeykai-20241122051200-Template:Pomigliano_CF_squad" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">05:12, 22 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Joeykai-20241122051200-Template:Pomigliano_CF_squad"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span 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href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Templates_for_discussion/Log/2024_November_22#c-GiantSnowman-20241122174800-Joeykai-20241122051200" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:48, 22 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span data-mw-comment-end="c-GiantSnowman-20241122174800-Joeykai-20241122051200"></span></small><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-GiantSnowman-20241122174800-Joeykai-20241122051200"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241122174800","author":"GiantSnowman","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-GiantSnowman-20241122174800-Joeykai-20241122051200","replies":[],"displayName":"Giant"}}--></span></li> <li><b><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-GiantSnowman-20241122175000-Joeykai-20241122051200"></span>Delete</b> per nom - no 'current squad', so does not need a template. <a href="/wiki/User:GiantSnowman" title="User:GiantSnowman">Giant</a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:GiantSnowman" title="User talk:GiantSnowman">Snowman</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Templates_for_discussion/Log/2024_November_22#c-GiantSnowman-20241122175000-Joeykai-20241122051200" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:50, 22 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-GiantSnowman-20241122175000-Joeykai-20241122051200"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span 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href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Templates_for_discussion/Log/2024_November_22&amp;action=edit&amp;section=15" title="Edit section: Template:At school occasional"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span></div> <ul><li><span id="Template:At_school_occasional" class="plainlinks nourlexpansion 1x"><a href="/wiki/Template:At_school_occasional" title="Template:At school occasional"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-JJPMaster-20241122014200-Template:At_school_occasional"></span>Template:At school occasional</a> (<a href="/w/index.php?title=Template_talk:At_school_occasional&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="Template talk:At school occasional (page does not exist)">talk</a> <b>·</b> <a href="/wiki/Special:PageHistory/Template:At_school_occasional" title="Special:PageHistory/Template:At school occasional">history</a> <b>·</b> <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special%3AWhatlinkshere%2FTemplate%3AAt+school+occasional&amp;limit=5000&amp;hidelinks=1&amp;hideredirs=1">transclusions</a> <b>·</b> <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special%3ALog&amp;page=Template%3AAt+school+occasional">logs</a> <b>·</b> <a href="/wiki/Special:PrefixIndex/Template:At_school_occasional/" title="Special:PrefixIndex/Template:At school occasional/">subpages</a>)</span></li> <li><span id="Template:At_school" class="plainlinks nourlexpansion 1x"><a href="/wiki/Template:At_school" title="Template:At school">Template:At school</a> (<a href="/wiki/Template_talk:At_school" title="Template talk:At school">talk</a> <b>·</b> <a href="/wiki/Special:PageHistory/Template:At_school" title="Special:PageHistory/Template:At school">history</a> <b>·</b> <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special%3AWhatlinkshere%2FTemplate%3AAt+school&amp;limit=5000&amp;hidelinks=1&amp;hideredirs=1">transclusions</a> <b>·</b> <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special%3ALog&amp;page=Template%3AAt+school">logs</a> <b>·</b> <a href="/wiki/Special:PrefixIndex/Template:At_school/" title="Special:PrefixIndex/Template:At school/">subpages</a>)</span></li></ul> <p><b>Propose merging</b> <a href="/wiki/Template:At_school_occasional" title="Template:At school occasional">Template:At school occasional</a> with <a href="/wiki/Template:At_school" title="Template:At school">Template:At school</a>.<br/> These templates both reflect that an editor will be making fewer contributions due to their schooling, and <span class="nowrap">{{</span><a href="/wiki/Template:At_school_occasional" title="Template:At school occasional">at school occasional</a><span class="nowrap">}}</span> simply specifies that the editor will not entirely stop editing. I propose that <span class="nowrap">{{</span><a href="/wiki/Template:At_school_occasional" title="Template:At school occasional">at school occasional</a><span class="nowrap">}}</span> be converted into a parameter for <span class="nowrap">{{</span><a href="/wiki/Template:At_school" title="Template:At school">at school</a><span class="nowrap">}}</span> (<code>|occasional=yes</code>) and merged therewith. <a href="/wiki/User:JJPMaster" title="User:JJPMaster">JJP</a><sub><a href="/wiki/User_talk:JJPMaster" title="User talk:JJPMaster">Mas</a><sub><a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/JJPMaster" title="Special:Contributions/JJPMaster">ter</a></sub></sub> (<a href="/wiki/She_(pronoun)" title="She (pronoun)">she</a>/<a href="/wiki/Singular_they" title="Singular they">they</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Templates_for_discussion/Log/2024_November_22#c-JJPMaster-20241122014200-Template:At_school_occasional" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">01:42, 22 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-JJPMaster-20241122014200-Template:At_school_occasional"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241122014200","author":"JJPMaster","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-JJPMaster-20241122014200-Template:At_school_occasional","replies":["c-Yovt-20241122180900-JJPMaster-20241122014200","c-Wildfireupdateman-20241123005000-JJPMaster-20241122014200","c-Carlinal-20241123053400-JJPMaster-20241122014200"],"displayName":"JJP"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-JJPMaster-20241122014200-Template:At_school_occasional"></span> </p> <dl><dd><ul><li><b><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Yovt-20241122180900-JJPMaster-20241122014200"></span>Weak support</b>, they both convey the same theme that school affects presence on Wikipedia. No significant difference between them.</li></ul></dd> <dd><a href="/wiki/User:Yovt" title="User:Yovt">𝚈𝚘𝚟𝚝</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Yovt" title="User talk:Yovt">𝚝𝚊𝚕𝚔𝚟𝚝</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Templates_for_discussion/Log/2024_November_22#c-Yovt-20241122180900-JJPMaster-20241122014200" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:09, 22 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Yovt-20241122180900-JJPMaster-20241122014200"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241122180900","author":"Yovt","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Yovt-20241122180900-JJPMaster-20241122014200","replies":[],"displayName":"\ud835\ude88\ud835\ude98\ud835\ude9f\ud835\ude9d"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Yovt-20241122180900-JJPMaster-20241122014200"></span></dd> <dd><b><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Wildfireupdateman-20241123005000-JJPMaster-20241122014200"></span>Support</b> - Both mean the same thing. Agree with reasoning provided by JJP. <a href="/wiki/User:Wildfireupdateman" title="User:Wildfireupdateman">( ͡° ( ͡° ( ͡°( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) ͡°) ͡°) ͡°)</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Templates_for_discussion/Log/2024_November_22#c-Wildfireupdateman-20241123005000-JJPMaster-20241122014200" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:50, 23 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Wildfireupdateman-20241123005000-JJPMaster-20241122014200"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241123005000","author":"Wildfireupdateman","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Wildfireupdateman-20241123005000-JJPMaster-20241122014200","replies":[],"displayName":"( \u0361\u00b0 ( \u0361\u00b0 ( \u0361\u00b0( \u0361\u00b0 \u035c\u0296 \u0361\u00b0) \u0361\u00b0) \u0361\u00b0) \u0361\u00b0)"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Wildfireupdateman-20241123005000-JJPMaster-20241122014200"></span></dd> <dd><b><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Carlinal-20241123053400-JJPMaster-20241122014200"></span>Weak support and suggestion.</b> Both school templates are differentiated by the <a href="/wiki/Academic_degree" title="Academic degree">degree</a> of availability at Wikipedia impacted from school attendance. Currently, the two templates are narrow in these degrees. The occasional template should become the regular school template and have a new one created, that a user is on a <i>hiatus</i> because of school. <a href="/wiki/User:Carlinal" title="User:Carlinal">Carlinal</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Carlinal" title="User talk:Carlinal">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Templates_for_discussion/Log/2024_November_22#c-Carlinal-20241123053400-JJPMaster-20241122014200" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">05:34, 23 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Carlinal-20241123053400-JJPMaster-20241122014200"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241123053400","author":"Carlinal","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Carlinal-20241123053400-JJPMaster-20241122014200","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Carlinal-20241123053400-JJPMaster-20241122014200"></span></dd></dl> <!-- NewPP limit report Parsed by mw‐api‐ext.codfw.main‐7556f8b5dd‐99ds7 Cached time: 20241124030518 Cache expiry: 2592000 Reduced expiry: false Complications: [show‐toc] DiscussionTools time usage: 0.041 seconds CPU time usage: 0.183 seconds Real time usage: 0.236 seconds Preprocessor visited node count: 729/1000000 Post‐expand include size: 24373/2097152 bytes Template argument size: 1565/2097152 bytes Highest expansion depth: 10/100 Expensive parser function count: 0/500 Unstrip recursion depth: 0/20 Unstrip post‐expand size: 1915/5000000 bytes Lua time usage: 0.014/10.000 seconds Lua memory usage: 1080558/52428800 bytes Number of Wikibase entities loaded: 0/400 --> <!-- Transclusion expansion time report (%,ms,calls,template) 100.00% 70.089 1 -total 46.78% 32.785 16 Template:Tfd_links 33.02% 23.141 3 Template:Tq 11.52% 8.071 3 Template:Encodefirst 9.32% 6.529 10 Template:Tl 4.29% 3.006 1 Template:U 2.85% 1.998 1 Template:Resize 2.65% 1.856 20 Template:Nowrap 2.37% 1.660 3 Template:Trim --> <!-- Saved in parser cache with key enwiki:pcache:idhash:78418120-0!canonical and timestamp 20241124030525 and revision id 1259236655. 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