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title="Wikipedia:WikiProject Crime and Criminal Biography/Terrorism task force">the Terrorism task force</a></b> (assessed as <a href="/wiki/Category:Low-importance_Terrorism_articles" title="Category:Low-importance Terrorism articles">Low-importance</a>).</td></tr></tbody></table></td></tr></tbody></table> <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1237879475"><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1259570071"><table class="tmbox tmbox-notice mw-collapsible innercollapse wpb wpb-table"><tbody><tr class="wpb-header"><td class="wpb-header-icon"><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Shahada.svg" class="mw-file-description"><img alt="WikiProject icon" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/3f/Shahada.svg/35px-Shahada.svg.png" decoding="async" width="35" height="20" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/3f/Shahada.svg/53px-Shahada.svg.png 1.5x, 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mw-halign-center" typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Rechtsgutachten_betr_Apostasie_im_Islam.jpg" class="mw-file-description"><img alt="Taskforce icon" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/aa/Rechtsgutachten_betr_Apostasie_im_Islam.jpg/33px-Rechtsgutachten_betr_Apostasie_im_Islam.jpg" decoding="async" width="33" height="25" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/aa/Rechtsgutachten_betr_Apostasie_im_Islam.jpg/50px-Rechtsgutachten_betr_Apostasie_im_Islam.jpg 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/aa/Rechtsgutachten_betr_Apostasie_im_Islam.jpg/66px-Rechtsgutachten_betr_Apostasie_im_Islam.jpg 2x" data-file-width="942" data-file-height="717"/></a><figcaption></figcaption></figure></td><td class="mbox-text" colspan="2">This article is supported by <b><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Islam/Islam_and_Controversy_task_force" title="Wikipedia:WikiProject Islam/Islam and Controversy task force">the Islam and 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href="/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_France" title="Wikipedia:WikiProject France">France</a><span class="wpb-nested-task-force">: <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_France/Paris" title="Wikipedia:WikiProject France/Paris">Paris</a></span> <span class="wpb-header-bubbles import-low">Low‑importance</span></td></tr><tr><td class="mbox-text wpb-main" colspan="2"><table><tbody><tr><td class="mbox-image wpb-image"><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Flag_of_France.svg" class="mw-file-description"><img alt="WikiProject icon" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/c/c3/Flag_of_France.svg/50px-Flag_of_France.svg.png" decoding="async" width="50" height="33" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/c/c3/Flag_of_France.svg/75px-Flag_of_France.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/c/c3/Flag_of_France.svg/100px-Flag_of_France.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="900" data-file-height="600"/></a></span></td><td class="mbox-text"><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1259569809"><ul role="navigation" aria-label="Portals" class="noprint portalbox portalborder portalright"> <li class="portalbox-entry"><span class="portalbox-image"><span class="mw-image-border noviewer" typeof="mw:File"><span><img alt="flag" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/c/c3/Flag_of_France.svg/32px-Flag_of_France.svg.png" decoding="async" width="32" height="21" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/c/c3/Flag_of_France.svg/48px-Flag_of_France.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/c/c3/Flag_of_France.svg/64px-Flag_of_France.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="900" data-file-height="600"/></span></span></span><span class="portalbox-link"><a href="/wiki/Portal:France" title="Portal:France">France portal</a></span></li></ul>This article is within the scope of <b><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_France" title="Wikipedia:WikiProject France">WikiProject 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Here are three articles with the perp's name, in both French and in English<sup id="cite_ref-1" class="reference"><a href="#cite_note-1"><span class="cite-bracket">[</span>1<span class="cite-bracket">]</span></a></sup><sup id="cite_ref-2" class="reference"><a href="#cite_note-2"><span class="cite-bracket">[</span>2<span class="cite-bracket">]</span></a></sup><sup id="cite_ref-3" class="reference"><a href="#cite_note-3"><span class="cite-bracket">[</span>3<span class="cite-bracket">]</span></a></sup> It is abusive to the policy to keep hiding behind it. <a href="/wiki/User:XavierItzm" title="User:XavierItzm">XavierItzm</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:XavierItzm" title="User talk:XavierItzm">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:2020_Paris_stabbing_attack#c-XavierItzm-2020-10-01T09:08:00.000Z-Suspect's_name" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:08, 1 October 2020 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-XavierItzm-2020-10-01T09:08:00.000Z-Suspect's_name"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2020-10-01T09:08:00.000Z","author":"XavierItzm","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-XavierItzm-2020-10-01T09:08:00.000Z-Suspect's_name","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-XavierItzm-2020-10-01T09:08:00.000Z-Suspect's_name"></span> </p> <span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Captain_Calm-2020-10-01T09:17:00.000Z-Suspect's_name"></span><style data-mw-deduplicate="TemplateStyles:r1232521257">.mw-parser-output .reflist-talk{margin:auto 0;border:1px dashed var(--border-color-base,#a2a9b1);padding:4px;padding-left:1em}.mw-parser-output .reflist-talk-title{font-weight:bold}</style><div class="reflist-talk"> <p 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.cs1-kern-right{padding-right:0.2em}.mw-parser-output .citation .mw-selflink{font-weight:inherit}@media screen{.mw-parser-output .cs1-format{font-size:95%}html.skin-theme-clientpref-night .mw-parser-output .cs1-maint{color:#18911f}}@media screen and (prefers-color-scheme:dark){html.skin-theme-clientpref-os .mw-parser-output .cs1-maint{color:#18911f}}</style><cite id="CITEREFAFP2020" class="citation web cs1 cs1-prop-foreign-lang-source">AFP, Le Figaro avec (2020-09-29). <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.lefigaro.fr/actualite-france/attaque-a-paris-l-assaillant-a-reconnu-etre-age-de-25-ans-et-non-18-20200929">"Attaque à Paris : l'assaillant a reconnu être âgé de 25 ans et non 18"</a>. <i>Le Figaro.fr</i> (in French)<span class="reference-accessdate">. Retrieved <span class="nowrap">2020-09-30</span></span>.</cite><span title="ctx_ver=Z39.88-2004&rft_val_fmt=info%3Aofi%2Ffmt%3Akev%3Amtx%3Ajournal&rft.genre=unknown&rft.jtitle=Le+Figaro.fr&rft.atitle=Attaque+%C3%A0+Paris+%3A+l%27assaillant+a+reconnu+%C3%AAtre+%C3%A2g%C3%A9+de+25+ans+et+non+18&rft.date=2020-09-29&rft.aulast=AFP&rft.aufirst=Le+Figaro+avec&rft_id=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.lefigaro.fr%2Factualite-france%2Fattaque-a-paris-l-assaillant-a-reconnu-etre-age-de-25-ans-et-non-18-20200929&rfr_id=info%3Asid%2Fen.wikipedia.org%3ATalk%3A2020+Paris+stabbing+attack" class="Z3988"></span></span> </li> <li id="cite_note-2"><span class="mw-cite-backlink"><b><a href="#cite_ref-2">^</a></b></span> <span class="reference-text"><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1238218222"><cite class="citation news cs1 cs1-prop-foreign-lang-source"><a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.cnews.fr/france/2020-09-30/attaque-paris-zaheer-hassan-mahmoud-mis-en-examen-et-ecroue-pour-tentatives">"ATTAQUE À PARIS : ZAHEER HASSAN MAHMOUD MIS EN EXAMEN ET ÉCROUÉ POUR «TENTATIVES D'ASSASSINATS» TERRORISTES"</a>. <i>C News France</i> (in French). AFP. 30 September 2020<span class="reference-accessdate">. Retrieved <span class="nowrap">1 October</span> 2020</span>. <q>Zaheer Hassan Mahmoud a été présenté à un juge d'instruction qui l'a mis en examen pour "tentatives d'assassinats en relation avec une entreprise terroriste"<span class="cs1-kern-right"></span></q></cite><span title="ctx_ver=Z39.88-2004&rft_val_fmt=info%3Aofi%2Ffmt%3Akev%3Amtx%3Ajournal&rft.genre=article&rft.jtitle=C+News+France&rft.atitle=ATTAQUE+%C3%80+PARIS+%3A+ZAHEER+HASSAN+MAHMOUD+MIS+EN+EXAMEN+ET+%C3%89CROU%C3%89+POUR+%C2%ABTENTATIVES+D%E2%80%99ASSASSINATS%C2%BB+TERRORISTES&rft.date=2020-09-30&rft_id=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.cnews.fr%2Ffrance%2F2020-09-30%2Fattaque-paris-zaheer-hassan-mahmoud-mis-en-examen-et-ecroue-pour-tentatives&rfr_id=info%3Asid%2Fen.wikipedia.org%3ATalk%3A2020+Paris+stabbing+attack" class="Z3988"></span></span> </li> <li id="cite_note-3"><span class="mw-cite-backlink"><b><a href="#cite_ref-3">^</a></b></span> <span class="reference-text"><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1238218222"><cite class="citation web cs1"><a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.euronews.com/2020/09/29/charlie-hebdo-suspected-paris-knife-attacker-to-be-charged-with-attempted-murder">"Suspected Paris knife attacker to be charged with attempted murder"</a>. <i>euronews</i>. September 29, 2020.</cite><span title="ctx_ver=Z39.88-2004&rft_val_fmt=info%3Aofi%2Ffmt%3Akev%3Amtx%3Ajournal&rft.genre=unknown&rft.jtitle=euronews&rft.atitle=Suspected+Paris+knife+attacker+to+be+charged+with+attempted+murder&rft.date=2020-09-29&rft_id=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.euronews.com%2F2020%2F09%2F29%2Fcharlie-hebdo-suspected-paris-knife-attacker-to-be-charged-with-attempted-murder&rfr_id=info%3Asid%2Fen.wikipedia.org%3ATalk%3A2020+Paris+stabbing+attack" class="Z3988"></span></span> </li> </ol></div></div> </div> <dl><dd>Please explain how omitting the suspect's name is abusive of <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:BLPCRIME" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:BLPCRIME">WP:BLPCRIME</a>? <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Captain_Calm&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Captain Calm (page does not exist)">Captain Calm</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Captain_Calm" title="User talk:Captain Calm">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:2020_Paris_stabbing_attack#c-Captain_Calm-2020-10-01T09:17:00.000Z-Suspect's_name" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:17, 1 October 2020 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Captain_Calm-2020-10-01T09:17:00.000Z-Suspect's_name"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2020-10-01T09:17:00.000Z","author":"Captain Calm","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Captain_Calm-2020-10-01T09:17:00.000Z-Suspect's_name","replies":["c-XavierItzm-2020-10-01T10:41:00.000Z-Captain_Calm-2020-10-01T09:17:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Captain_Calm-2020-10-01T09:17:00.000Z-Suspect's_name"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-XavierItzm-2020-10-01T10:41:00.000Z-Captain_Calm-2020-10-01T09:17:00.000Z"></span>Plain reading of the policy: "When the name of a private individual has not been widely disseminated or has been intentionally concealed, such as in certain court cases or occupations, it is often preferable to omit it". The name has been widely disseminated in at least two continents in at least two major world languages.<a href="/wiki/User:XavierItzm" title="User:XavierItzm">XavierItzm</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:XavierItzm" title="User talk:XavierItzm">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:2020_Paris_stabbing_attack#c-XavierItzm-2020-10-01T10:41:00.000Z-Captain_Calm-2020-10-01T09:17:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:41, 1 October 2020 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-XavierItzm-2020-10-01T10:41:00.000Z-Captain_Calm-2020-10-01T09:17:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2020-10-01T10:41:00.000Z","author":"XavierItzm","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-XavierItzm-2020-10-01T10:41:00.000Z-Captain_Calm-2020-10-01T09:17:00.000Z","replies":["c-Captain_Calm-2020-10-01T10:55:00.000Z-XavierItzm-2020-10-01T10:41:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-XavierItzm-2020-10-01T10:41:00.000Z-Captain_Calm-2020-10-01T09:17:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Captain_Calm-2020-10-01T10:55:00.000Z-XavierItzm-2020-10-01T10:41:00.000Z"></span>Let's get some consensus from other editors on this, <span class="template-ping">@<a href="/w/index.php?title=User:TompaDompa&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:TompaDompa (page does not exist)">TompaDompa</a>:</span> do you think this meets "widely disseminated" yet? <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Captain_Calm&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Captain Calm (page does not exist)">Captain Calm</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Captain_Calm" title="User talk:Captain Calm">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:2020_Paris_stabbing_attack#c-Captain_Calm-2020-10-01T10:55:00.000Z-XavierItzm-2020-10-01T10:41:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:55, 1 October 2020 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Captain_Calm-2020-10-01T10:55:00.000Z-XavierItzm-2020-10-01T10:41:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2020-10-01T10:55:00.000Z","author":"Captain Calm","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Captain_Calm-2020-10-01T10:55:00.000Z-XavierItzm-2020-10-01T10:41:00.000Z","replies":["c-TompaDompa-2020-10-01T11:05:00.000Z-Captain_Calm-2020-10-01T10:55:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Captain_Calm-2020-10-01T10:55:00.000Z-XavierItzm-2020-10-01T10:41:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-TompaDompa-2020-10-01T11:05:00.000Z-Captain_Calm-2020-10-01T10:55:00.000Z"></span>Omitting the name does not result in any significant loss of context, and with investigations ongoing not naming an otherwise <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:LOWPROFILE" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:LOWPROFILE">WP:LOWPROFILE</a> person suspected of a crime is preferable. Whether it has been widely disseminated is not really the point here. You're reading from <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:BLPNAME" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:BLPNAME">WP:BLPNAME</a>, whereas I'm citing <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:BLPCRIME" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:BLPCRIME">WP:BLPCRIME</a>: <style data-mw-deduplicate="TemplateStyles:r1248585704">@media screen{html.skin-theme-clientpref-night .mw-parser-output .inline-quote-talk{color:#00B785}}@media screen and (prefers-color-scheme:dark){html.skin-theme-clientpref-os .mw-parser-output .inline-quote-talk{color:#00B785}}.mw-parser-output .inline-quote-talk{font-family:Georgia,"DejaVu Serif",serif;color:#008560;quotes:none}.mw-parser-output .inline-quote-talk-italic{font-family:inherit;font-style:italic}.mw-parser-output .inline-quote-talk-marks{quotes:"\"""\""}</style><q class="inline-quote-talk">For individuals who are <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:NOTPUBLICFIGURE" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:NOTPUBLICFIGURE">not public figures</a>; that is, individuals not covered by <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Biographies_of_living_persons#Public_figures" title="Wikipedia:Biographies of living persons">§ Public figures</a>, editors must seriously consider <b>not</b> including material—in any article—that suggests the person has committed, or is accused of having committed, a crime, unless a conviction has been secured.</q> In short, there is no benefit to including the name, and there is some harm. <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:TompaDompa&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:TompaDompa (page does not exist)">TompaDompa</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:TompaDompa" title="User talk:TompaDompa">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:2020_Paris_stabbing_attack#c-TompaDompa-2020-10-01T11:05:00.000Z-Captain_Calm-2020-10-01T10:55:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:05, 1 October 2020 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-TompaDompa-2020-10-01T11:05:00.000Z-Captain_Calm-2020-10-01T10:55:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2020-10-01T11:05:00.000Z","author":"TompaDompa","type":"comment","level":5,"id":"c-TompaDompa-2020-10-01T11:05:00.000Z-Captain_Calm-2020-10-01T10:55:00.000Z","replies":["c-XavierItzm-2020-10-01T11:32:00.000Z-TompaDompa-2020-10-01T11:05:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-TompaDompa-2020-10-01T11:05:00.000Z-Captain_Calm-2020-10-01T10:55:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-XavierItzm-2020-10-01T11:32:00.000Z-TompaDompa-2020-10-01T11:05:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Captain_Calm&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Captain Calm (page does not exist)">Captain Calm</a>:</span> avoid <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:CAN" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:CAN">WP:CAN</a>. <a href="/wiki/User:XavierItzm" title="User:XavierItzm">XavierItzm</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:XavierItzm" title="User talk:XavierItzm">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:2020_Paris_stabbing_attack#c-XavierItzm-2020-10-01T11:32:00.000Z-TompaDompa-2020-10-01T11:05:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:32, 1 October 2020 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-XavierItzm-2020-10-01T11:32:00.000Z-TompaDompa-2020-10-01T11:05:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2020-10-01T11:32:00.000Z","author":"XavierItzm","type":"comment","level":6,"id":"c-XavierItzm-2020-10-01T11:32:00.000Z-TompaDompa-2020-10-01T11:05:00.000Z","replies":["c-Captain_Calm-2020-10-01T11:36:00.000Z-XavierItzm-2020-10-01T11:32:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-XavierItzm-2020-10-01T11:32:00.000Z-TompaDompa-2020-10-01T11:05:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Captain_Calm-2020-10-01T11:36:00.000Z-XavierItzm-2020-10-01T11:32:00.000Z"></span>It's not canvassing: I repeated TompaDompa's edit of the day before, deliberately using the same edit summary, so it was reasonable to ping them for inclusion in the discussion. I'm not on the other side of any political war here, and "Shocked, shocked" as your edit summary is unhelpful. So while I re-read <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:CAN" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:CAN">WP:CAN</a>, perhaps you could re-read <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:AGF" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:AGF">WP:AGF</a>. <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Captain_Calm&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Captain Calm (page does not exist)">Captain Calm</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Captain_Calm" title="User talk:Captain Calm">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:2020_Paris_stabbing_attack#c-Captain_Calm-2020-10-01T11:36:00.000Z-XavierItzm-2020-10-01T11:32:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:36, 1 October 2020 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Captain_Calm-2020-10-01T11:36:00.000Z-XavierItzm-2020-10-01T11:32:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2020-10-01T11:36:00.000Z","author":"Captain Calm","type":"comment","level":7,"id":"c-Captain_Calm-2020-10-01T11:36:00.000Z-XavierItzm-2020-10-01T11:32:00.000Z","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Captain_Calm-2020-10-01T11:36:00.000Z-XavierItzm-2020-10-01T11:32:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <!-- NewPP limit report Parsed by mw‐web.codfw.main‐6d67bf974d‐26bnh Cached time: 20241127234648 Cache expiry: 864000 Reduced expiry: true Complications: [vary‐revision‐sha1, vary‐revision‐id] DiscussionTools time usage: 0.017 seconds CPU time usage: 0.398 seconds Real time usage: 0.508 seconds Preprocessor visited node count: 917/1000000 Post‐expand include size: 44183/2097152 bytes Template argument size: 1197/2097152 bytes Highest expansion depth: 10/100 Expensive parser function count: 11/500 Unstrip recursion depth: 1/20 Unstrip post‐expand size: 37058/5000000 bytes Lua time usage: 0.255/10.000 seconds Lua memory usage: 4124105/52428800 bytes Number of Wikibase entities loaded: 0/400 --> <!-- Transclusion expansion time report (%,ms,calls,template) 100.00% 440.248 1 -total 58.95% 259.541 1 Template:WikiProject_banner_shell 32.19% 141.715 1 Template:Talkref 30.43% 133.949 1 Template:Reflist 24.05% 105.890 2 Template:Cite_web 14.30% 62.953 1 Template:WikiProject_Crime_and_Criminal_Biography 7.12% 31.362 1 Template:WikiProject_Islam 7.05% 31.056 1 Template:Tmbox 5.32% 23.410 1 Template:Tq 4.85% 21.341 1 Template:Check_talk --> <!-- Saved in parser cache with key enwiki:pcache:idhash:65464176-0!canonical and timestamp 20241127234648 and revision id 1256351186. 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