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background: transparent; text-align: left; width: 100%;"> <tbody> <tr> <th>If something looks wrong, <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/Wikipedia:Purge?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:Purge">purge the server's cache</a>, then <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/Wikipedia:Bypass_your_cache?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="Wikipedia:Bypass your cache">bypass your browser's cache</a>.</th> </tr> <tr> <td>This tends to solve most issues, including improper display of images, user-preferences not loading, and old versions of pages being shown.</td> </tr> </tbody> </table> <table class="mw-collapsible mw-collapsed" style="color: inherit; background: transparent; text-align: left; width: 100%;"> <tbody> <tr> <th>No, we will not use JavaScript to set focus on the search box.</th> </tr> <tr> <td>This would interfere with usability, accessibility, keyboard navigation and standard forms. See <a href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T3864" class="extiw" title="phab:T3864">task 3864</a>. There is an <code>accesskey</code> property on it (default to <code>accesskey="f"</code> in English). Logged-in users can enable the "Focus the cursor in the search bar on loading the Main Page" gadget <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/Special:Preferences?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB#mw-prefsection-gadgets" title="Special:Preferences">in their preferences</a>.</td> </tr> </tbody> </table> <table class="mw-collapsible mw-collapsed" style="color: inherit; background: transparent; text-align: left; width: 100%;"> <tbody> <tr> <th>No, we will not add a spell-checker, or spell-checking <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/Wikipedia:Bots?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="Wikipedia:Bots">bot</a>.</th> </tr> <tr> <td>You can use a web browser such as <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/Firefox?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="Firefox">Firefox</a>, which has a spell checker.</td> </tr> </tbody> </table> <table style="color: inherit; background: transparent; text-align: left; width: 100%;"> <tbody> <tr> <th>If you have problems making your fancy signature work, check <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/Help:How_to_fix_your_signature?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="Help:How to fix your signature">Help:How to fix your signature</a>.</th> </tr> </tbody> </table> <table class="mw-collapsible mw-collapsed" style="color: inherit; background: transparent; text-align: left; width: 100%;"> <tbody> <tr> <th>If you changed to another skin and cannot change back, use <a class="external text" href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title%3DSpecial:Preferences%26useskin%3Dvector">this link</a>.</th> </tr> <tr> <td>Alternatively, you can press Tab until the "Save" button is highlighted, and press Enter. Using Mozilla Firefox also seems to solve the problem.</td> </tr> </tbody> </table> <table class="mw-collapsible mw-collapsed" style="color: inherit; background: transparent; text-align: left; width: 100%;"> <tbody> <tr> <th>If an image thumbnail is not showing, try <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/Wikipedia:Purge?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:Purge">purging</a> its image description page.</th> </tr> <tr> <td>If the image is from Wikimedia Commons, you might have to purge there too. If it doesn't work, try again before doing anything else. Some ad blockers, proxies, or firewalls block <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/URL?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="URL">URLs</a> containing /ad/ or ending in common executable suffixes. 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If you cannot reach Wikipedia services, see <a class="external text" href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://wikitech-static.wikimedia.org/wiki/Reporting_a_connectivity_issue">Reporting a connectivity issue</a>.</th> </tr> </tbody> </table> </div> </div></td> </tr> </tbody> </table> </div> <div style="text-align:center;"> <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/Wikipedia:Village_pump_archive?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="Wikipedia:Village pump archive">« Archives</a>, <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/Wikipedia:Village_pump_(technical)/Archive_196?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="Wikipedia:Village pump (technical)/Archive 196">196</a>, <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/Wikipedia:Village_pump_(technical)/Archive_197?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="Wikipedia:Village pump (technical)/Archive 197">197</a>, <a 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href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/Wikipedia:Village_pump_(technical)?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB#code_editor">11 code editor</a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-12"><a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/Wikipedia:Village_pump_(technical)?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB#Proposed_change_to_tabs_on_redirect_pages">12 Proposed change to tabs on redirect pages</a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-13"><a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/Wikipedia:Village_pump_(technical)?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB#Mobile_wikipedia_images_problem">13 Mobile wikipedia images problem</a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-14"><a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/Wikipedia:Village_pump_(technical)?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB#Electcom_seeks_technical_assistance">14 Electcom seeks technical assistance</a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-15"><a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/Wikipedia:Village_pump_(technical)?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB#Article_incorrectly_marked_as_List_class">15 Article incorrectly marked as List class</a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-16"><a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/Wikipedia:Village_pump_(technical)?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB#Concern_involving_User:MusikBot_II/TemplateProtector">16 Concern involving User:MusikBot II/TemplateProtector</a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-17"><a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/Wikipedia:Village_pump_(technical)?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB#Problems_with_WP:Twinkle">17 Problems with WP:Twinkle</a></li> </ul> </div> <div style="clear:both;" id="below_toc"></div> </section> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section section-heading" onclick="mfTempOpenSection(1)">  <h2 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.tracked{float:right;clear:right;margin:0 0 1em 1em;width:12em;border:1px solid #72777d;border-radius:2px;background-color:var(--background-color-interactive,#EAECF0);color:var(--color-base,#202122);font-size:85%;text-align:center;padding:0.5em}.mw-parser-output .tracked-url{font-weight:bold}.mw-parser-output .tracked-closure{color:black;font-weight:bold;text-transform:uppercase}.mw-parser-output .tracked-resolved{color:green}</style> <div role="note" class="tracked plainlinks mw-trackedTemplate"> Tracked in <a href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/" class="extiw" title="phabricator:">Phabricator</a> <a href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T379983" class="extiw" title="phabricator:T379983"> Task T379983</a> Resolved </div> I've recently tried to search a few things, and noticed that if I press arrow down on the autocomplete results, it selects a random result, rather than the expected outcome of it selecting the first in the list (then going down one if pressed again, etcetera). For example, to test this, I typed in "AS" into the search bar, which displayed "AS", "Association football", "Associated Press", "Assassination of John F. Kennedy", among others. I pressed the arrow down, and it highlighted the last result, "ASEAN". I pressed it again, and it highlighted "Asperger syndrome", which is the 6th result in the list, and 4 results up from "ASEAN". This continues for some time, but it generally jumps through the list at random intervals. I checked that I had safemode on before trying this, and I am on the latest version of 64-bit Chrome, version 131.0.6778.70. <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User:EggRoll97?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User:EggRoll97">EggRoll97</a> (<a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User_talk:EggRoll97?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User talk:EggRoll97">talk</a>) <a href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Village_pump_(technical)%23c-EggRoll97-20241115011100-Search_autocomplete_selects_random_results_when_arrowing_down" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">01:11, 15 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-1" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui="{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}"><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a> <dl> <dd> Given the day, by the way, it may be <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/Wikipedia:THURSDAY?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:THURSDAY">WP:THURSDAY</a>, but I'm not necessarily sure if that indeed is the case. <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User:EggRoll97?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User:EggRoll97">EggRoll97</a> (<a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User_talk:EggRoll97?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User talk:EggRoll97">talk</a>) <a href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Village_pump_(technical)%23c-EggRoll97-20241115011300-EggRoll97-20241115011100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">01:13, 15 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-2" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui="{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}"><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a> </dd> <dd> Me too, Windows 10 version 22H2, Firefox 132.0.2 (recent upgrade), all skins except Vector-2022 and Minerva Neue, logged in and logged out. The main symptom seems to be that in the search box, the functions of the up and down arrows are exchanged. Also affects <a href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/" class="extiw" title="commons:">commons:</a>. --<a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User:Redrose64?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User:Redrose64">Redrose64</a> 🌹 (<a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User_talk:Redrose64?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User talk:Redrose64">talk</a>) <a href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Village_pump_(technical)%23c-Redrose64-20241115012200-EggRoll97-20241115011100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">01:22, 15 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-3" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui="{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}"><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a> </dd> <dd> This is probably related to <a href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T379983" class="extiw" title="phab:T379983">phab:T379983</a> though of course you can report a separate task. <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User:Izno?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User:Izno">Izno</a> (<a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User_talk:Izno?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User talk:Izno">talk</a>) <a href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Village_pump_(technical)%23c-Izno-20241115013300-EggRoll97-20241115011100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">01:33, 15 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-4" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui="{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}"><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a> <dl> <dd> Looks like it, and it appears a change has been merged so this should (hopefully) resolve itself fairly soon. <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User:EggRoll97?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User:EggRoll97">EggRoll97</a> (<a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User_talk:EggRoll97?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User talk:EggRoll97">talk</a>) <a href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Village_pump_(technical)%23c-EggRoll97-20241115013800-Izno-20241115013300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">01:38, 15 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-5" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui="{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}"><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a> </dd> </dl> </dd> <dd> I'm facing the same issue, on Vivaldi (7.0.3495.11 (64-bit)) on Windows 11 Home 23H2. Are you on Wikipedia's 2010 Vector legacy skin (the old default GUI) by any chance? I have this issue on that skin but not on Wikipedia's new Vector skin. <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User:Tube_of_Light?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User:Tube of Light">Tube</a>·<a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User_talk:Tube_of_Light?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User talk:Tube of Light">of</a>·<a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/Special:Contributions/Tube_of_Light?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="Special:Contributions/Tube of Light">Light</a> <a href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Village_pump_(technical)%23c-Tube_of_Light-20241115112100-EggRoll97-20241115011100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:21, 15 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-6" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless 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href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Village_pump_(technical)%23c-Dudhhr-20241115225700-Tube_of_Light-20241115112100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:57, 15 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-7" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui="{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}"><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a> </dd> </dl> </dd> <dd> I don’t see anyone mentioning it anywhere, but I am also having the same issue on Timeless. <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User:Win8x?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User:Win8x">win8x</a> (<a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User_talk:Win8x?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User talk:Win8x">talking</a> | <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/Special:Contributions/Win8x?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="Special:Contributions/Win8x">spying</a>) <a href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Village_pump_(technical)%23c-Win8x-20241116144600-EggRoll97-20241115011100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:46, 16 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-8" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui="{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}"><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a> <dl> <dd> @<a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User:Win8x?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User:Win8x">Win8x</a>: As I wrote above, <style data-mw-deduplicate="TemplateStyles:r1248585704">@media screen{html.skin-theme-clientpref-night .mw-parser-output .inline-quote-talk{color:#00B785}}@media screen and (prefers-color-scheme:dark){html.skin-theme-clientpref-os .mw-parser-output .inline-quote-talk{color:#00B785}}.mw-parser-output .inline-quote-talk{font-family:Georgia,"DejaVu Serif",serif;color:#008560;quotes:none}.mw-parser-output .inline-quote-talk-italic{font-family:inherit;font-style:italic}.mw-parser-output .inline-quote-talk-marks{quotes:"\"""\""}</style><q class="inline-quote-talk">all skins except Vector-2022 and Minerva Neue</q>. --<a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User:Redrose64?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User:Redrose64">Redrose64</a> 🌹 (<a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User_talk:Redrose64?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User talk:Redrose64">talk</a>) <a href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Village_pump_(technical)%23c-Redrose64-20241116165200-Win8x-20241116144600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:52, 16 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-9" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" 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Glad a change has been merged though. <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User:Win8x?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User:Win8x">win8x</a> (<a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User_talk:Win8x?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User talk:Win8x">talk</a>) <a href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Village_pump_(technical)%23c-Win8x-20241116165300-Redrose64-20241116165200" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:53, 16 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-10" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" 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id="Does_Pending_Changes_disable_edit_conflict_checking?" data-mw-thread-id="h-Does_Pending_Changes_disable_edit_conflict_checking?-20241116181300">Does Pending Changes disable edit conflict checking?</h2> <a role="button" href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Village_pump_(technical)&action=edit&section=2&_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="Edit section: Does Pending Changes disable edit conflict checking?" class="cdx-button cdx-button--size-large cdx-button--fake-button cdx-button--fake-button--enabled cdx-button--icon-only cdx-button--weight-quiet "> edit </a> <span id="ooui-php-104" class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-overflowMenuButton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui="{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonMenuSelectWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"ellipsis","data":{"itemConfigs":[{"id":"edit","data":{"id":"edit"},"icon":"edit","label":"Edit"}],"resourceLoaderModules":[]},"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-section-overflowMenuButton"]}"><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"></a> <div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"> <div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"> Latest comment: <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/Wikipedia:Village_pump_(technical)?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB#c-Folly_Mox-20241121134700-Qwerfjkl-20241117180600">3 days ago</a>5 comments3 people in discussion </div> <div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions">  </div> </div> </div> <section class="mf-section-2 collapsible-block" id="mf-section-2"> I haven't found any documentation about this at <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/Wikipedia:Pending_Changes?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:Pending Changes">Wikipedia:Pending Changes</a>, <a href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Extension:FlaggedRevs" class="extiw" title="mw:Help:Extension:FlaggedRevs">mw:Help:Extension:FlaggedRevs</a>, <a href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:FlaggedRevs" class="extiw" title="mw:Extension:FlaggedRevs">mw:Extension:FlaggedRevs</a>, or <a href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T185664" class="extiw" title="phab:T185664">phab:T185664</a>. (I am an idiot though, and frequently miss obvious information.) <div class="paragraphbreak" style="margin-top:0.5em"></div> But here's what happened (all these diffs are sequentially uninterrupted BTW): while <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/Wikipedia:HD?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:HD">WP:HD</a> was under PC protection (LTA disruption), T=00 I <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/Special:Diff/1257206130?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="Special:Diff/1257206130">reply</a> to a thread. T+02 minutes, <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User:PrimeHunter?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User:PrimeHunter">PrimeHunter</a> <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/Special:Diff/1257206461?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="Special:Diff/1257206461">replies</a>. T+17 minutes, OP <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/Special:Diff/1257208774?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="Special:Diff/1257208774">replies to my reply</a>, removing PrimeHunter's reply with no edit summary (edit tagged as "<a href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/2017_wikitext_editor" class="extiw" title="mw:2017 wikitext editor">2017 wikitext editor</a>"). A bit later, I notice this and enter the source editor within Minerva to restore PrimeHunter's edit without automatically adding my sig. T+44 PrimeHunter <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/Special:Diff/1257213709?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="Special:Diff/1257213709">restores the edit</a>. T+46 <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/Special:Diff/1257214231?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="Special:Diff/1257214231">I do too</a>. Despite the edit summary of my <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/Special:Diff/1257214403?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="Special:Diff/1257214403">immediate self-revert</a>, I was never shown an edit conflict error (these do work in Minerva: I had three recently at heavily trafficked pages, all in ns4). <div class="paragraphbreak" style="margin-top:0.5em"></div> My interpretation of this sequence is that since FlaggedRevs are "automatically accepted" when the editor permissions allow, checking for edit conflicts is disabled or hampered in some way, at least in some editing interfaces. Can anyone confirm this? <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User:Folly_Mox?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User:Folly Mox">Folly Mox</a> (<a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User_talk:Folly_Mox?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User talk:Folly Mox">talk</a>) <a href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Village_pump_(technical)%23c-Folly_Mox-20241116181300-Does_Pending_Changes_disable_edit_conflict_checking?" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:13, 16 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-12" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui="{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}"><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a> <dl> <dd> Well, PrimeHunter restored text above the 2 lines <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1248585704"><q class="inline-quote-talk">:I think this was [...]</q> and <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1248585704"><q class="inline-quote-talk">:: I haven't had this [...]</q>, while you restored it below those 2 lines, that's why there was no edit conflict. I actually don't know the exact logic, though something is mentioned at <a href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Edit_conflict%23Preventing_edit_conflicts" class="extiw" title="mw:Help:Edit conflict">mw:Help:Edit conflict#Preventing edit conflicts</a> - I've always assumed that it's the same logic that governs if you can still undo a revision after new revisions have been made (which from experience is when the diff of that revision would not have revealed lines that changed in later revisions). – <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/Special:Contributions/2804:F14:8085:6D01:BC4B:E524:C2C6:3070?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="Special:Contributions/2804:F14:8085:6D01:BC4B:E524:C2C6:3070">2804:F1...C6:3070</a> (<a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/Special:Contributions/2804:F14::/32?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="Special:Contributions/2804:F14::/32">::/32</a>) (<a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User_talk:2804:F14:8085:6D01:BC4B:E524:C2C6:3070?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User talk:2804:F14:8085:6D01:BC4B:E524:C2C6:3070">talk</a>) <a href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Village_pump_(technical)%23c-2804:F14:8085:6D01:BC4B:E524:C2C6:3070-20241116224600-Folly_Mox-20241116181300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:46, 16 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-13" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui="{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}"><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a> <dl> <dd> For clarity, here is a multi-revision diff of both of your restorations: <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/Special:Diff/1257208774/1257214231?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="Special:Diff/1257208774/1257214231">Special:Diff/1257208774/1257214231</a>. – <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/Special:Contributions/2804:F14:8085:6D01:BC4B:E524:C2C6:3070?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="Special:Contributions/2804:F14:8085:6D01:BC4B:E524:C2C6:3070">2804:F1...C6:3070</a> (<a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/Special:Contributions/2804:F14::/32?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="Special:Contributions/2804:F14::/32">::/32</a>) (<a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User_talk:2804:F14:8085:6D01:BC4B:E524:C2C6:3070?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User talk:2804:F14:8085:6D01:BC4B:E524:C2C6:3070">talk</a>) <a href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Village_pump_(technical)%23c-2804:F14:8085:6D01:BC4B:E524:C2C6:3070-20241116225600-2804:F14:8085:6D01:BC4B:E524:C2C6:3070-20241116224600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:56, 16 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-14" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui="{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}"><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a> </dd> <dd> <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/Special:Contributions/2804:F14:8085:6D01:BC4B:E524:C2C6:3070?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="Special:Contributions/2804:F14:8085:6D01:BC4B:E524:C2C6:3070">2804:F14:8085:6D01:BC4B:E524:C2C6:3070</a>, I assume it's paragraph-based like the diffs. — <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User:Qwerfjkl?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User:Qwerfjkl">Qwerfjkl</a><a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User_talk:Qwerfjkl?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User talk:Qwerfjkl">talk</a> <a href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Village_pump_(technical)%23c-Qwerfjkl-20241117180600-2804:F14:8085:6D01:BC4B:E524:C2C6:3070-20241116224600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:06, 17 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-15" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui="{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}"><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a> <dl> <dd> Huh, ok; I thought edit conflicts were partitioned by subheading, but the "same line" implementation makes sense here, while also making sense at the other three edit conflicts I did experience, since other editors and I were adding text to the same (empty) line. Thanks both for the information 🙏🏽 <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User:Folly_Mox?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User:Folly Mox">Folly Mox</a> (<a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User_talk:Folly_Mox?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User talk:Folly Mox">talk</a>) <a href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Village_pump_(technical)%23c-Folly_Mox-20241121134700-Qwerfjkl-20241117180600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:47, 21 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-16" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui="{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}"><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a> </dd> </dl> </dd> </dl> </dd> </dl> </section> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section section-heading" onclick="mfTempOpenSection(3)">  <h2 id="Strip_marker_problem_with_template" data-mw-thread-id="h-Strip_marker_problem_with_template-20241117230900">Strip marker problem with template</h2> <a role="button" href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Village_pump_(technical)&action=edit&section=3&_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="Edit section: Strip marker problem with template" class="cdx-button cdx-button--size-large cdx-button--fake-button cdx-button--fake-button--enabled cdx-button--icon-only cdx-button--weight-quiet "> edit </a> <span id="ooui-php-105" class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-overflowMenuButton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui="{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonMenuSelectWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"ellipsis","data":{"itemConfigs":[{"id":"edit","data":{"id":"edit"},"icon":"edit","label":"Edit"}],"resourceLoaderModules":[]},"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-section-overflowMenuButton"]}"><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"></a> <div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"> <div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"> Latest comment: <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/Wikipedia:Village_pump_(technical)?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB#c-PrimeHunter-20241119214000-Daniel_Quinlan-20241118023000">4 days ago</a>6 comments3 people in discussion </div> <div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions">  </div> </div> </div> <section class="mf-section-3 collapsible-block" id="mf-section-3"> It looks like 92 articles (possibly more) with <code>{{<a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/Template:Election_box_candidate_with_party_link?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="Template:Election box candidate with party link">election box candidate with party link</a>}}</code> templates are exposing strip markers (<code class="mw-highlight mw-highlight-lang-text mw-content-ltr" style="" dir="ltr">?UNIQ...QINU?</code>). It seems like the issue is related to ref tags being used within the template. Example articles include <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/Sussex_East_(European_Parliament_constituency)?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="Sussex East (European Parliament constituency)">Sussex East (European Parliament constituency)</a>, <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/1970_Florida_Attorney_General_election?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="1970 Florida Attorney General election">1970 Florida Attorney General election</a>, and <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/Kocaeli_(electoral_district)?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="Kocaeli (electoral district)">Kocaeli (electoral district)</a>. I’m not sure how to resolve this, so I'm posting here. <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User:Daniel_Quinlan?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User:Daniel Quinlan">Daniel Quinlan</a> (<a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User_talk:Daniel_Quinlan?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User talk:Daniel Quinlan">talk</a>) <a href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Village_pump_(technical)%23c-Daniel_Quinlan-20241117230900-Strip_marker_problem_with_template" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:09, 17 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-17" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui="{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}"><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a> <dl> <dd> Probably has to do with the string replacement on the <code class="tpl-para" style="word-break:break-word;">|change=</code> parameter. Probably the easiest is to create a <code class="tpl-para" style="word-break:break-word;">|change_note=</code> parameter so it doesn't clash with that. <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User:Gonnym?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User:Gonnym">Gonnym</a> (<a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User_talk:Gonnym?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User talk:Gonnym">talk</a>) <a href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Village_pump_(technical)%23c-Gonnym-20241117232700-Daniel_Quinlan-20241117230900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:27, 17 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-18" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui="{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}"><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a> <dl> <dd> {{<a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/Template:Election_box_candidate_with_party_link?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="Template:Election box candidate with party link">Election box candidate with party link</a>}} says <code>{{#invoke:String|replace|source={{{change|}}}|-|−}}</code> to change a hyphen to a minus sign in a negative number. If the parameter has a reference then its strip marker code has four hyphens which are also changed and this breaks the code. I suggest <code>{{#invoke:String|replace|source={{{change|}}}|^-|−|plain=false}}</code> to only change a hyphen if it's the first character. Then the articles don't need a new parameter for a note. Before editing a template used in 29,000 pages, does anyone have objections or a better solution? The bad cell in <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/1970_Florida_Attorney_General_election?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB#Results" title="1970 Florida Attorney General election">1970 Florida Attorney General election#Results</a> uses {{<a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/Template:Election_box_winning_candidate_with_party_link?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="Template:Election box winning candidate with party link">Election box winning candidate with party link</a>}} which would need the same fix. <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User:PrimeHunter?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User:PrimeHunter">PrimeHunter</a> (<a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User_talk:PrimeHunter?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User talk:PrimeHunter">talk</a>) <a href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Village_pump_(technical)%23c-PrimeHunter-20241118000800-Gonnym-20241117232700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:08, 18 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-19" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui="{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}"><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a> <dl> <dd> Could it be further restricted to also require the hyphen to be followed by a digit? <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User:Daniel_Quinlan?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User:Daniel Quinlan">Daniel Quinlan</a> (<a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User_talk:Daniel_Quinlan?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User talk:Daniel Quinlan">talk</a>) <a href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Village_pump_(technical)%23c-Daniel_Quinlan-20241118002900-PrimeHunter-20241118000800" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:29, 18 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-20" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui="{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}"><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a> <dl> <dd> To elaborate, I was thinking something like <code>{{#invoke:String|replace|source={{{change|}}}|^%s*-(%d)|−%1|plain=false}}</code>. <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User:Daniel_Quinlan?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User:Daniel Quinlan">Daniel Quinlan</a> (<a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User_talk:Daniel_Quinlan?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User talk:Daniel Quinlan">talk</a>) <a href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Village_pump_(technical)%23c-Daniel_Quinlan-20241118023000-Daniel_Quinlan-20241118002900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">02:30, 18 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-21" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui="{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}"><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a> <dl> <dd> I see you also strip whitespace at the start. It should probably be done by a new template so complicated code doesn't have to be duplicated. <a class="external text" href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?search%3Dincategory%253A%2522Election%2Band%2Breferendum%2Binfobox%2Btemplates%2522%2Binsource%253A%252F%255C%257C-%255C%257C%25E2%2588%2592%252F%26title%3DSpecial%253ASearch%26profile%3Dadvanced%26fulltext%3D1%26ns0%3D1%26ns1%3D1%26ns2%3D1%26ns3%3D1%26ns4%3D1%26ns5%3D1%26ns6%3D1%26ns7%3D1%26ns8%3D1%26ns9%3D1%26ns10%3D1%26ns11%3D1%26ns12%3D1%26ns13%3D1%26ns14%3D1%26ns15%3D1%26ns100%3D1%26ns101%3D1%26ns118%3D1%26ns119%3D1%26ns126%3D1%26ns127%3D1%26ns710%3D1%26ns711%3D1%26ns828%3D1%26ns829%3D1">This search</a> finds 20 cases just in <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/Category:Election_and_referendum_infobox_templates?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="Category:Election and referendum infobox templates">Category:Election and referendum infobox templates</a>. <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User:PrimeHunter?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User:PrimeHunter">PrimeHunter</a> (<a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User_talk:PrimeHunter?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User talk:PrimeHunter">talk</a>) <a href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Village_pump_(technical)%23c-PrimeHunter-20241119214000-Daniel_Quinlan-20241118023000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:40, 19 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-22" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui="{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}"><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a> </dd> </dl> </dd> </dl> </dd> </dl> </dd> </dl> </dd> </dl> </section> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section section-heading" onclick="mfTempOpenSection(4)">  <h2 id="Lockout_script_misbehaving" data-mw-thread-id="h-Lockout_script_misbehaving-20241119033100">Lockout script misbehaving</h2> <a role="button" href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Village_pump_(technical)&action=edit&section=4&_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="Edit section: Lockout script misbehaving" class="cdx-button cdx-button--size-large cdx-button--fake-button cdx-button--fake-button--enabled cdx-button--icon-only cdx-button--weight-quiet "> edit </a> <span id="ooui-php-106" class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-overflowMenuButton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui="{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonMenuSelectWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"ellipsis","data":{"itemConfigs":[{"id":"edit","data":{"id":"edit"},"icon":"edit","label":"Edit"}],"resourceLoaderModules":[]},"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-section-overflowMenuButton"]}"><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"></a> <div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"> <div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"> Latest comment: <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/Wikipedia:Village_pump_(technical)?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB#c-Suntooooth-20241124184600-Rummskartoffel-20241123212100">49 minutes ago</a>3 comments2 people in discussion </div> <div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions">  </div> </div> </div> <section class="mf-section-4 collapsible-block" id="mf-section-4"> I have a forked version of <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User:Anomie/lockout.js?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User:Anomie/lockout.js">User:Anomie/lockout.js</a> in <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User:Suntooooth/common.js?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User:Suntooooth/common.js">my common.js</a> which only blocks editing, not viewing. However, if the edit page is opened by <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User:Novem_Linguae/Scripts/DraftCleaner.js?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User:Novem Linguae/Scripts/DraftCleaner.js">DraftCleaner</a>, the edit page isn't blocked and I can edit as usual, including if other scripts refresh the page. Why does this happen, and is there a way to block the edit page in this case? <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User:Suntooooth?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User:Suntooooth">Suntooooth</a>, it/he (<a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User_talk:Suntooooth?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User talk:Suntooooth">talk</a>/<a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/Special:Contributions/Suntooooth?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="Special:Contributions/Suntooooth">contribs</a>) <a href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Village_pump_(technical)%23c-Suntooooth-20241119033100-Lockout_script_misbehaving" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">03:31, 19 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-23" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui="{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}"><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a> <dl> <dd> <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User:Suntooooth?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User:Suntooooth">Suntooooth</a>, that's because DraftCleaner uses <code>?action=submit</code> to open the editor, while your lockout script only checks for <code>?action=edit</code>. You could change the condition of the if-statement to something like <code class="mw-highlight mw-highlight-lang-javascript mw-content-ltr" dir="ltr">!["edit", "submit"].includes(mw.config.get("wgAction"))</code>. <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User_talk:Rummskartoffel?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User talk:Rummskartoffel">Rummskartoffel</a> <a href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Village_pump_(technical)%23c-Rummskartoffel-20241123212100-Suntooooth-20241119033100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:21, 23 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-24" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui="{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}"><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a> <dl> <dd> I'll try that out, thank you! :] <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User:Suntooooth?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User:Suntooooth">Suntooooth</a>, it/he (<a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User_talk:Suntooooth?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User talk:Suntooooth">talk</a>/<a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/Special:Contributions/Suntooooth?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="Special:Contributions/Suntooooth">contribs</a>) <a href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Village_pump_(technical)%23c-Suntooooth-20241124184600-Rummskartoffel-20241123212100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:46, 24 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-25" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui="{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}"><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a> </dd> </dl> </dd> </dl> </section> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section section-heading" onclick="mfTempOpenSection(5)">  <h2 id="Social_media_post_template" data-mw-thread-id="h-Social_media_post_template-20241119095000">Social media post template</h2> <a role="button" href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Village_pump_(technical)&action=edit&section=5&_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="Edit section: Social media post template" class="cdx-button cdx-button--size-large cdx-button--fake-button cdx-button--fake-button--enabled cdx-button--icon-only cdx-button--weight-quiet "> edit </a> <span id="ooui-php-107" class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-overflowMenuButton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui="{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonMenuSelectWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"ellipsis","data":{"itemConfigs":[{"id":"edit","data":{"id":"edit"},"icon":"edit","label":"Edit"}],"resourceLoaderModules":[]},"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-section-overflowMenuButton"]}"><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"></a> <div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"> <div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"> Latest comment: <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/Wikipedia:Village_pump_(technical)?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB#c-Tantomile-20241119194100-Cakelot1-20241119095000">4 days ago</a>3 comments3 people in discussion </div> <div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions">  </div> </div> </div> <section class="mf-section-5 collapsible-block" id="mf-section-5"> There's a discussion over at <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/Template_talk:Tweet?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB#Post_template" title="Template talk:Tweet">Template talk:Tweet#Post template</a> about creating a new social media post template, that would look an act the same as the current {{<a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/Template:Tweet?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="Template:Tweet">Tweet</a>}} template but extended for other social sites. A result of this was {{<a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/Template:SocialMediaPost?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" class="mw-redirect" title="Template:SocialMediaPost">SocialMediaPost</a>}}, but this seems like a very manual solution, liable to breaking and inconsistencies. I was wondering if something could be created which could, given a "website" param, automatically select the correct "site logo", "article Link", "reference format" and "prefix", similar to the way {{<a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/Template:Political_party?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="Template:Political party">Political party</a>}}s or {{<a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/Template:Infobox_legislation?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="Template:Infobox legislation">Infobox legislation</a>}} are done. Or if I'm other thinking it and the manual method is fine. <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User:Cakelot1?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User:Cakelot1">Cakelot1</a> ☞️ <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User_talk:Cakelot1?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User talk:Cakelot1">talk</a> <a href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Village_pump_(technical)%23c-Cakelot1-20241119095000-Social_media_post_template" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:50, 19 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-26" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui="{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}"><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a> <dl> <dd> It is possible, sure. It will require some work. <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User:Izno?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User:Izno">Izno</a> (<a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User_talk:Izno?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User talk:Izno">talk</a>) <a href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Village_pump_(technical)%23c-Izno-20241119171600-Cakelot1-20241119095000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:16, 19 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-27" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui="{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}"><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a> </dd> <dd> Hi! Sorry for kind of jumping the gun on moving this to the template space. I'm not the best at templates, but I'll definitely take a look at those ones you linked and see if i can do anything to automate the process. It's been a bit since I've actually used Lua, but I'll try. Generating that information off of a 'website' parameter seems doable, and i'll let y'all know if i manage to make progress. <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User:Tantomile?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User:Tantomile">Tantomile</a> (<a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User_talk:Tantomile?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User talk:Tantomile">talk</a>) <a href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Village_pump_(technical)%23c-Tantomile-20241119194100-Cakelot1-20241119095000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:41, 19 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-28" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui="{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}"><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a> </dd> </dl> </section> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section section-heading" onclick="mfTempOpenSection(6)">  <h2 id="In-line_citation_tag" data-mw-thread-id="h-In-line_citation_tag-20241119130900">In-line citation tag</h2> <a role="button" href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Village_pump_(technical)&action=edit&section=6&_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="Edit section: In-line citation tag" class="cdx-button cdx-button--size-large cdx-button--fake-button cdx-button--fake-button--enabled cdx-button--icon-only cdx-button--weight-quiet "> edit </a> <span id="ooui-php-108" class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-overflowMenuButton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui="{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonMenuSelectWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"ellipsis","data":{"itemConfigs":[{"id":"edit","data":{"id":"edit"},"icon":"edit","label":"Edit"}],"resourceLoaderModules":[]},"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-section-overflowMenuButton"]}"><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"></a> <div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"> <div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"> Latest comment: <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/Wikipedia:Village_pump_(technical)?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB#c-ActivelyDisinterested-20241119234000-DMacks-20241119131400">4 days ago</a>5 comments4 people in discussion </div> <div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions">  </div> </div> </div> <section class="mf-section-6 collapsible-block" id="mf-section-6"> Helo! I have spent way too much time trying to find the template which askes for more in-line citations in the sourcing of an article. Wading through page after page hasn't done the trick. Can anyone here please help me find it? <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User:SergeWoodzing?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User:SergeWoodzing">SergeWoodzing</a> (<a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User_talk:SergeWoodzing?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User talk:SergeWoodzing">talk</a>) <a href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Village_pump_(technical)%23c-SergeWoodzing-20241119130900-In-line_citation_tag" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:09, 19 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-29" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui="{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}"><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a> <dl> <dd> {{<a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/Template:No_footnotes?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="Template:No footnotes">No footnotes</a>}}? <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User:DMacks?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User:DMacks">DMacks</a> (<a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User_talk:DMacks?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User talk:DMacks">talk</a>) <a href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Village_pump_(technical)%23c-DMacks-20241119131400-SergeWoodzing-20241119130900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:14, 19 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-30" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui="{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}"><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a> <dl> <dd> Thank you! --<a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User:SergeWoodzing?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User:SergeWoodzing">SergeWoodzing</a> (<a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User_talk:SergeWoodzing?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User talk:SergeWoodzing">talk</a>) <a href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Village_pump_(technical)%23c-SergeWoodzing-20241119131900-DMacks-20241119131400" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:19, 19 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-31" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui="{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}"><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a> </dd> <dd> If it has some inline cites but could use more there's {{<a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/Template:More_footnotes_needed?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="Template:More footnotes needed">more footnotes needed</a>}}. -- LCU <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User:ActivelyDisinterested?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User:ActivelyDisinterested">ActivelyDisinterested</a> «<a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User_talk:ActivelyDisinterested?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User talk:ActivelyDisinterested">@</a>» °<a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/Special:Contributions/ActivelyDisinterested?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="Special:Contributions/ActivelyDisinterested">∆t</a>° <a href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Village_pump_(technical)%23c-ActivelyDisinterested-20241119234000-DMacks-20241119131400" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:40, 19 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-32" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui="{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}"><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a> </dd> </dl> </dd> <dd> I'm not sure if you were already aware of it, but just in case you're not: <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/Wikipedia:TC?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:TC">WP:TC</a> is a very useful list for this sort of thing. <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User:Suntooooth?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User:Suntooooth">Suntooooth</a>, it/he (<a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User_talk:Suntooooth?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User talk:Suntooooth">talk</a>/<a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/Special:Contributions/Suntooooth?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="Special:Contributions/Suntooooth">contribs</a>) <a href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Village_pump_(technical)%23c-Suntooooth-20241119182300-SergeWoodzing-20241119130900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:23, 19 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-33" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui="{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}"><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a> </dd> </dl> </section> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section section-heading" onclick="mfTempOpenSection(7)">  <h2 id="Lua_errors" data-mw-thread-id="h-Lua_errors-20241119153100">Lua errors</h2> <a role="button" href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Village_pump_(technical)&action=edit&section=7&_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="Edit section: Lua errors" class="cdx-button cdx-button--size-large cdx-button--fake-button cdx-button--fake-button--enabled cdx-button--icon-only cdx-button--weight-quiet "> edit </a> <span id="ooui-php-109" class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-overflowMenuButton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui="{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonMenuSelectWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"ellipsis","data":{"itemConfigs":[{"id":"edit","data":{"id":"edit"},"icon":"edit","label":"Edit"}],"resourceLoaderModules":[]},"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-section-overflowMenuButton"]}"><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"></a> <div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"> <div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"> Latest comment: <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/Wikipedia:Village_pump_(technical)?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB#c-PrimeHunter-20241119212600-86.23.109.101-20241119174900">4 days ago</a>12 comments3 people in discussion </div> <div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions">  </div> </div> </div> <section class="mf-section-7 collapsible-block" id="mf-section-7"> Can someone explain what's wrong here? <a href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://si.wikipedia.org/wiki/%25E0%25B7%2580%25E0%25B7%2592%25E0%25B6%259A%25E0%25B7%2592%25E0%25B6%25B4%25E0%25B7%2593%25E0%25B6%25A9%25E0%25B7%2592%25E0%25B6%25BA%25E0%25B7%258F:Templates_for_discussion" class="extiw" title="si:විකිපීඩියා:Templates for discussion">si:විකිපීඩියා:Templates for discussion</a> <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User:VihirLak007?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User:VihirLak007">VihirLak007</a><a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User_talk:VihirLak007?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User talk:VihirLak007">hmu!</a>/<a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/Special:Contributions/VihirLak007?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="Special:Contributions/VihirLak007">duh.</a> <a href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Village_pump_(technical)%23c-VihirLak007-20241119153100-Lua_errors" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:31, 19 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-34" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui="{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}"><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a> <dl> <dd> It looks like Lee imported a load of templates and modules from the English wikipedia which are designed to take English language inputs. The "time errors" for example, are because <a href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://si.wikipedia.org/wiki/Module:YMD_to_ISO" class="extiw" title="si:Module:YMD to ISO">si:Module:YMD to ISO</a> converts English date strings to an ISO formatted date, but you are giving it Sinhala month names (because the output of <code>{{#time:</code> depends upon the language of your wiki). You either need to go through and localise all the templates that were imported, or make new ones for your wiki. <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/Special:Contributions/86.23.109.101?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="Special:Contributions/86.23.109.101">86.23.109.101</a> (<a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User_talk:86.23.109.101?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User talk:86.23.109.101">talk</a>) <a href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Village_pump_(technical)%23c-86.23.109.101-20241119174900-VihirLak007-20241119153100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:49, 19 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-35" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui="{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}"><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a> <dl> <dd> Thanks. Sounds like it gonna take a while to solve the issues tho <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User:VihirLak007?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User:VihirLak007">VihirLak007</a><a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User_talk:VihirLak007?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User talk:VihirLak007">hmu!</a>/<a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/Special:Contributions/VihirLak007?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="Special:Contributions/VihirLak007">duh.</a> <a href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Village_pump_(technical)%23c-VihirLak007-20241119183700-86.23.109.101-20241119174900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:37, 19 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-36" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui="{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}"><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a> </dd> <dd> Any idea how to localize and what templates/modules to localize? <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User:VihirLak007?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User:VihirLak007">VihirLak007</a><a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User_talk:VihirLak007?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User talk:VihirLak007">hmu!</a>/<a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/Special:Contributions/VihirLak007?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="Special:Contributions/VihirLak007">duh.</a> <a href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Village_pump_(technical)%23c-VihirLak007-20241119190200-86.23.109.101-20241119174900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:02, 19 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-37" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui="{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}"><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a> <dl> <dd> @<a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User:VihirLak007?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User:VihirLak007">VihirLak007</a> It would probably be amount the same amount of work to start from scratch rather than getting that module to work. The module takes input in the form <code>19 November 2024</code> or <code>19 Nov 2024</code>, i.e. two numbers followed by the month name or abbreviation, followed by four numbers. The output of <code>{{#time:</code> on your wiki seems to be 2 Sinhala numerals (I think? I don't speak Sinhala) followed by the month in Sinhala, and the year. At a minimum you would need to translate the month names, add new logic to convert the Sinhala numerals to Arabic numerals, re-write all the input checks to account for the difference in format, possibly remove the logic for the month name abbreviations ... <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/Special:Contributions/86.23.109.101?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="Special:Contributions/86.23.109.101">86.23.109.101</a> (<a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User_talk:86.23.109.101?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User talk:86.23.109.101">talk</a>) <a href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Village_pump_(technical)%23c-86.23.109.101-20241119190200-VihirLak007-20241119190200" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:02, 19 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-38" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui="{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}"><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a> <dl> <dd> in sinhala, the numerals are same, arabic numerals. i think if i add sinhala month names alongside where it takes english names, it might work? The thing is i've no idea where to edit <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User:VihirLak007?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User:VihirLak007">VihirLak007</a><a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User_talk:VihirLak007?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User talk:VihirLak007">hmu!</a>/<a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/Special:Contributions/VihirLak007?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="Special:Contributions/VihirLak007">duh.</a> <a href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Village_pump_(technical)%23c-VihirLak007-20241119190500-86.23.109.101-20241119190200" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:05, 19 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-39" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui="{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}"><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a> <dl> <dd> @<a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User:VihirLak007?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User:VihirLak007">VihirLak007</a> In that case you would need to add the Sinhala names alongside the English ones, and also change the pattern matching checks at the bottom (the bit that goes <code>arg1:match('^%d%d%d%d %a%a%a%a?%.?%a?%a?%a?%a?%a?%a? *%d%d?$')</code>) to allow the new date formats. <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/Special:Contributions/86.23.109.101?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="Special:Contributions/86.23.109.101">86.23.109.101</a> (<a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User_talk:86.23.109.101?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User talk:86.23.109.101">talk</a>) <a href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Village_pump_(technical)%23c-86.23.109.101-20241119190900-VihirLak007-20241119190500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:09, 19 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-40" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui="{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}"><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a> <dl> <dd> Sorry for being lost minded here. Where should i add the sinhala names? i know how to add but not sure where. <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User:VihirLak007?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User:VihirLak007">VihirLak007</a><a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User_talk:VihirLak007?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User talk:VihirLak007">hmu!</a>/<a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/Special:Contributions/VihirLak007?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="Special:Contributions/VihirLak007">duh.</a> <a href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Village_pump_(technical)%23c-VihirLak007-20241119191500-86.23.109.101-20241119190900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:15, 19 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-41" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui="{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}"><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a> <dl> <dd> The Sinhala names would just replace the English ones in the <code>months_full</code> variable. I'm not sure what you'd need to do to update the pattern matching, sorry. <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/Special:Contributions/86.23.109.101?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="Special:Contributions/86.23.109.101">86.23.109.101</a> (<a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User_talk:86.23.109.101?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User talk:86.23.109.101">talk</a>) <a href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Village_pump_(technical)%23c-86.23.109.101-20241119192000-VihirLak007-20241119191500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:20, 19 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-42" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui="{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}"><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a> <dl> <dd> Any idea where to find the place that controls the output of {{#time on Sinhala wiki? <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User:VihirLak007?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User:VihirLak007">VihirLak007</a><a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User_talk:VihirLak007?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User talk:VihirLak007">hmu!</a>/<a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/Special:Contributions/VihirLak007?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="Special:Contributions/VihirLak007">duh.</a> <a href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Village_pump_(technical)%23c-VihirLak007-20241119201100-86.23.109.101-20241119192000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:11, 19 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-43" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui="{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}"><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a> <dl> <dd> @<a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User:VihirLak007?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User:VihirLak007">VihirLak007</a> See <a href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/help:parserfunctions%23%23time" class="extiw" title="mw:help:parserfunctions">MW:help:parserfunctions##time</a>. <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/Special:Contributions/86.23.109.101?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="Special:Contributions/86.23.109.101">86.23.109.101</a> (<a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User_talk:86.23.109.101?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User talk:86.23.109.101">talk</a>) <a href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Village_pump_(technical)%23c-86.23.109.101-20241119204000-VihirLak007-20241119201100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:40, 19 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-44" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless 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data-mw-thread-id="h-RFC_references_in_Further_Reading-20241120094100">RFC references in Further Reading</h2> <a role="button" href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Village_pump_(technical)&action=edit&section=8&_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="Edit section: RFC references in Further Reading" class="cdx-button cdx-button--size-large cdx-button--fake-button cdx-button--fake-button--enabled cdx-button--icon-only cdx-button--weight-quiet "> edit </a> <span id="ooui-php-110" class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-overflowMenuButton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui="{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonMenuSelectWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"ellipsis","data":{"itemConfigs":[{"id":"edit","data":{"id":"edit"},"icon":"edit","label":"Edit"}],"resourceLoaderModules":[]},"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-section-overflowMenuButton"]}"><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"></a> <div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"> <div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"> Latest comment: <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/Wikipedia:Village_pump_(technical)?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB#c-Chatul-20241120164900-Neko-chan-20241120162600">4 days ago</a>4 comments2 people in discussion </div> <div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions">  </div> </div> </div> <section class="mf-section-8 collapsible-block" id="mf-section-8"> @<a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User:Neko-chan?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User:Neko-chan">Neko-chan</a>: Recent edits to <a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/Wikipedia:Village_pump_(technical)?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB#Further_Reading">§ Further Reading</a> by <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User:Neko-chan?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User:Neko-chan">Neko-chan</a> have changed some, but not all,RFC references to <code>{{<a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/Template:IETF_RFC?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="Template:IETF RFC">IETF RFC</a>}}</code>. Should this not be consistent? I was going to suggest ussing {{<a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/Template:Ref_RFC?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="Template:Ref RFC">Ref RFC</a>}}, but it is still a stub, e.g., <code>{{<a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/Template:Ref_RFC?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="Template:Ref RFC">Ref RFC</a>|5321}}</code> produces "<a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/Wikipedia:Village_pump_(technical)?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB#cite_note-rfc5321-1">[1]</a>". -- <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User:Chatul?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User:Chatul">Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz Username:Chatul</a> (<a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User_talk:Chatul?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User talk:Chatul">talk</a>) <a href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Village_pump_(technical)%23c-Chatul-20241120094100-RFC_references_in_Further_Reading" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:41, 20 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-46" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui="{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}"><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a> <dl> <dd> <s>Thank you for pointing out some things I missed, can you link to exactly which article? That further reading link doesn't go anywhere. ~ฅ(ↀωↀ=)<a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User:Neko-chan?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User:Neko-chan">neko-chan</a><a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User_talk:Neko-chan?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User talk:Neko-chan">nyan</a> <a href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Village_pump_(technical)%23c-Neko-chan-20241120161400-Chatul-20241120094100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:14, 20 November 2024 (UTC)</a></s><span id="ooui-php-47" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui="{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}"><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a> </dd> <dd> Oh, it's still pretty early in my time zone and I misread. Maybe I should get some coffee. </dd> <dd> If this is <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/Email_address?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB#Further_reading" title="Email address">Email_address#Further_reading</a>, then they're not references, they're inline links which is what <code>{{<a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/Template:IETF_RFC?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="Template:IETF RFC">IETF RFC</a>}}</code> is for. It's not inconsistent, they have different purposes. I also didn't swap the <code>{{<a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/Template:Cite_IETF?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="Template:Cite IETF">cite IETF</a>}}</code> citations because <code>{{<a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/Template:Ref_RFC?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="Template:Ref RFC">ref RFC</a>}}</code> doesn't handle section cites properly. ~ฅ(ↀωↀ=)<a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User:Neko-chan?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User:Neko-chan">neko-chan</a><a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User_talk:Neko-chan?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User talk:Neko-chan">nyan</a> <a href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Village_pump_(technical)%23c-Neko-chan-20241120162600-Chatul-20241120094100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:26, 20 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-48" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui="{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}"><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a> <dl> <dd> Sorry, the template I used, <code>{{<a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/Template:Alink?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" class="mw-redirect" title="Template:Alink">alink</a>|Further Reading}}</code>, is only valid in <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/Talk:Email_address?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="Talk:Email address">Talk:Email address</a>; I should have used <code>{{<a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/Template:Slink?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" class="mw-redirect" title="Template:Slink">slink</a>|Email address|Further Reading}}</code>yielding <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/Email_address?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB#Further_Reading" title="Email address">Email address § Further Reading</a>. </dd> <dd> The inconsistency I referred to is the one that you corrected with <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/Special:PermanentLink/1258604111?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="Special:PermanentLink/1258604111">permalink/1258604111</a>. -- <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User:Chatul?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User:Chatul">Shmuel (Seymour J.) 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Klensin (October 2008). <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/rfc5321">Simple Mail Transfer Protocol</a>. Network Working Group. <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/Doi_(identifier)?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" class="mw-redirect" title="Doi (identifier)">doi</a>:<a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://doi.org/10.17487%252FRFC5321">10.17487/RFC5321</a>. <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/Request_for_Comments?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="Request for Comments">RFC</a> <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/rfc5321">5321</a>.</cite><span title="ctx_ver=Z39.88-2004&rft_val_fmt=info%3Aofi%2Ffmt%3Akev%3Amtx%3Abook&rft.genre=book&rft.btitle=Simple+Mail+Transfer+Protocol&rft.pub=Network+Working+Group&rft.date=2008-10&rft_id=info%3Adoi%2F10.17487%2FRFC5321&rft.au=J.+Klensin&rft_id=https%3A%2F%2Fdatatracker.ietf.org%2Fdoc%2Fhtml%2Frfc5321&rfr_id=info%3Asid%2Fen.wikipedia.org%3AWikipedia%3AVillage+pump+%28technical%29" class="Z3988"> Draft Standard. Updated by <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1238218222"><a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/RFC_(identifier)?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" class="mw-redirect" title="RFC (identifier)">RFC</a> <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/rfc7504">7504</a>. Obsoletes <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1238218222"><a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/RFC_(identifier)?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" class="mw-redirect" title="RFC (identifier)">RFC</a> <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/rfc2821">2821</a>. Updates <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1238218222"><a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/RFC_(identifier)?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" class="mw-redirect" title="RFC (identifier)">RFC</a> <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/rfc1123">1123</a>. </li> </ol> </div> </div> </div> </section> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section section-heading" onclick="mfTempOpenSection(9)">  <h2 id="RfC_notice:_Log_the_use_of_the_HistMerge_tool_at_both_the_merge_target_and_merge_source" data-mw-thread-id="h-RfC_notice:_Log_the_use_of_the_HistMerge_tool_at_both_the_merge_target_and_merge-20241120160000">RfC notice: Log the use of the HistMerge tool at both the merge target and merge source</h2> <a role="button" href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Village_pump_(technical)&action=edit&section=9&_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="Edit section: RfC notice: Log the use of the HistMerge tool at both the merge target and merge source" class="cdx-button cdx-button--size-large cdx-button--fake-button cdx-button--fake-button--enabled cdx-button--icon-only cdx-button--weight-quiet "> edit </a> <span id="ooui-php-111" class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-overflowMenuButton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui="{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonMenuSelectWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"ellipsis","data":{"itemConfigs":[{"id":"edit","data":{"id":"edit"},"icon":"edit","label":"Edit"}],"resourceLoaderModules":[]},"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-section-overflowMenuButton"]}"><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"></a> <div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"> <div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"> Latest comment: <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/Wikipedia:Village_pump_(technical)?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB#c-Red-tailed_hawk-20241120160000-RfC_notice:_Log_the_use_of_the_HistMerge_tool_at_both_the_merge_target_and_merge">4 days ago</a>1 comment1 person in discussion </div> <div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions">  </div> </div> </div> <section class="mf-section-9 collapsible-block" id="mf-section-9"> <noscript> <img alt="Information icon" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/1/1d/Information_icon4.svg/25px-Information_icon4.svg.png" decoding="async" width="25" height="25" class="mw-file-element" data-file-width="620" data-file-height="620"> </noscript><span class="lazy-image-placeholder" style="width: 25px;height: 25px;" data-src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/1/1d/Information_icon4.svg/25px-Information_icon4.svg.png" data-alt="Information icon" data-width="25" data-height="25" data-srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/1/1d/Information_icon4.svg/38px-Information_icon4.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/1/1d/Information_icon4.svg/50px-Information_icon4.svg.png 2x" data-class="mw-file-element">  There is currently a discussion at <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/Wikipedia:Village_pump_(proposals)?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="Wikipedia:Village pump (proposals)">Wikipedia:Village pump (proposals)</a> regarding the logging functionality of the <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/Special:MergeHistory?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="Special:MergeHistory">Special:MergeHistory</a> tool. The thread is <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/Wikipedia:Village_pump_(proposals)?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB#RfC:_Log_the_use_of_the_HistMerge_tool_at_both_the_merge_target_and_merge_source" title="Wikipedia:Village pump (proposals)">RfC: Log the use of the HistMerge tool at both the merge target and merge source</a>. Thank you. — <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User:Red-tailed_hawk?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User:Red-tailed hawk">Red-tailed hawk</a> <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User_talk:Red-tailed_hawk?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User talk:Red-tailed hawk">(nest)</a> <a href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Village_pump_(technical)%23c-Red-tailed_hawk-20241120160000-RfC_notice:_Log_the_use_of_the_HistMerge_tool_at_both_the_merge_target_and_merge" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:00, 20 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-50" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui="{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}"><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a> </section> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section section-heading" onclick="mfTempOpenSection(10)">  <h2 id="Special:Badtitle_in_pending_changes_notice" data-mw-thread-id="h-Special:Badtitle_in_pending_changes_notice-20241121122200"><a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/Special:Badtitle?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" class="new" title="Special:Badtitle (page does not exist)">Special:Badtitle</a> in pending changes notice</h2> <a role="button" href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Village_pump_(technical)&action=edit&section=10&_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="Edit section: Special:Badtitle in pending changes notice" class="cdx-button cdx-button--size-large cdx-button--fake-button cdx-button--fake-button--enabled cdx-button--icon-only cdx-button--weight-quiet "> edit </a> <span id="ooui-php-112" class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-overflowMenuButton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui="{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonMenuSelectWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"ellipsis","data":{"itemConfigs":[{"id":"edit","data":{"id":"edit"},"icon":"edit","label":"Edit"}],"resourceLoaderModules":[]},"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-section-overflowMenuButton"]}"><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"></a> <div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"> <div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"> Latest comment: <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/Wikipedia:Village_pump_(technical)?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB#c-PrimeHunter-20241121213400-PrimeHunter-20241121181300">2 days ago</a>6 comments3 people in discussion </div> <div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions">  </div> </div> </div> <section class="mf-section-10 collapsible-block" id="mf-section-10"> <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1227084136"> <div role="note" class="tracked plainlinks mw-trackedTemplate"> Tracked in <a href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/" class="extiw" title="phabricator:">Phabricator</a> <a href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T380519" class="extiw" title="phabricator:T380519"> Task T380519</a> </div> Over at <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/Silk_Road_(marketplace)?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="Silk Road (marketplace)">Silk Road (marketplace)</a> where there was a pending changes notice on the history tab, the links in it were all broken with <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/Special:Badtitle?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" class="new" title="Special:Badtitle (page does not exist)">Special:Badtitle</a> being used. Looking at <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/Special:PendingChanges?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="Special:PendingChanges">Special:PendingChanges</a> this seems to affect other article titles as well. It seems to be an issue with <code>mw-fr-revision-tag-edit</code>: <div class="mw-highlight mw-highlight-lang-html mw-content-ltr" dir="ltr"> <pre><div id="mw-fr-revision-tag-edit" class="cdx-message mw-fr-message-box cdx-message--block cdx-message--notice flaggedrevs_notice plainlinks"><span class="cdx-message__icon"></span><div class="cdx-message__content">The <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Badtitle/Message&amp;stable=1">latest accepted version</a> was <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Log&amp;type=review&amp;page=Special:Badtitle/Message">reviewed</a> on <i>20 November 2024</i>. There is <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Badtitle/Message&amp;oldid=1258565930&amp;diff=cur&amp;diffonly=0">1 pending revision</a> awaiting review.</div></div> </pre> </div> <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User:Smartse?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User:Smartse">SmartSE</a> (<a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User_talk:Smartse?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User talk:Smartse">talk</a>) <a href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Village_pump_(technical)%23c-Smartse-20241121122200-Special:Badtitle_in_pending_changes_notice" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:22, 21 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-51" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui="{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}"><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a> <dl> <dd> <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/Pisco?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="Pisco">Pisco</a> is currently listed at <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/Special:PendingChanges?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="Special:PendingChanges">Special:PendingChanges</a> so <a class="external free" href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title%3DPisco%26action%3Dhistory">https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Pisco&action=history</a> shows the issue right now. The message is made by <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/MediaWiki:Revreview-pending-basic?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="MediaWiki:Revreview-pending-basic">MediaWiki:Revreview-pending-basic</a>. We have customized it but the links are generated in the same way as the default message and the problem is also seen for an uncostumized message with <a class="external text" href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title%3DPisco%26action%3Dhistory%26uselang%3Dde">uselang=de</a> (German). The message uses <code>{{FULLPAGENAMEE}}</code> which apparently returns <code>Special:Badtitle/Message</code> in that message. The same history page uses <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/MediaWiki:Histlegend?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="MediaWiki:Histlegend">MediaWiki:Histlegend</a> where <code>{{FULLPAGENAMEE}}</code> works correctly. <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/MediaWiki:Revreview-pending-basic?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="MediaWiki:Revreview-pending-basic">MediaWiki:Revreview-pending-basic</a> is from an extension. Maybe that causes the difference. We got 1.44.0-wmf.4 today. If the issue started today then it sounds like <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/Wikipedia:ITSTHURSDAY?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:ITSTHURSDAY">WP:ITSTHURSDAY</a> with a problem in something at <a href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/MediaWiki_1.44/wmf.4" class="extiw" title="mw:MediaWiki 1.44/wmf.4">mw:MediaWiki 1.44/wmf.4</a>. <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User:PrimeHunter?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User:PrimeHunter">PrimeHunter</a> (<a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User_talk:PrimeHunter?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User talk:PrimeHunter">talk</a>) <a href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Village_pump_(technical)%23c-PrimeHunter-20241121131500-Smartse-20241121122200" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:15, 21 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-52" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui="{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}"><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a> </dd> <dd> Here is a quick and dirty fix for <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/Special:MyPage/common.js?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="Special:MyPage/common.js">your common JavaScript</a>: </dd> <dd> <div class="mw-highlight mw-highlight-lang-javascript mw-content-ltr" dir="ltr"> <pre>document.body.innerHTML = document.body.innerHTML.replace(/Special:Badtitle\/Message/g, mw.config.get('wgPageName')); </pre> </div> </dd> <dd> It changes <code>Special:Badtitle/Message</code> everywhere (maybe the bug affects other messages) including in the edit window for this section, so don't edit it if you add the fix. <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User:PrimeHunter?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User:PrimeHunter">PrimeHunter</a> (<a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User_talk:PrimeHunter?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User talk:PrimeHunter">talk</a>) <a href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Village_pump_(technical)%23c-PrimeHunter-20241121135600-Smartse-20241121122200" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:56, 21 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-53" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui="{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}"><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a> <dl> <dd> I don't see a phabricator ticket. <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User:PrimeHunter?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User:PrimeHunter">PrimeHunter</a>, do you want to write something up? I'm wondering if this has something to do with <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1248585704"><q class="inline-quote-talk">* <a href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/q/016644c4" class="extiw" title="gerrit:q/016644c4">git #016644c4</a> - Do not pre-parse MessageValue arguments (<a href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T380045" class="extiw" title="phabricator:T380045">T380045</a>) by Isabelle Hurbain-Palatin</q>? I did do a quick test to confirm that <code>{{FULLPAGENAMEE}}</code> (or <code>{{FULLPAGENAME}}</code>) are directly producing the <code>Special:Badtitle/Message</code> text, it's not just happening when passed through <code>{{<a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/Help:Magic_words?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB#Paths" title="Help:Magic words">fullurl:</a>}}</code> or when linked.--<a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User:Ahecht?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User:Ahecht">Ahecht</a> (<a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User_talk:Ahecht?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User talk:Ahecht">TALK PAGE</a>) <a href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Village_pump_(technical)%23c-Ahecht-20241121150600-PrimeHunter-20241121135600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:06, 21 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-54" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui="{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}"><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a> <dl> <dd> I have created <a href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T380519" class="extiw" title="phab:T380519">phab:T380519</a>. <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User:PrimeHunter?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User:PrimeHunter">PrimeHunter</a> (<a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User_talk:PrimeHunter?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User talk:PrimeHunter">talk</a>) <a href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Village_pump_(technical)%23c-PrimeHunter-20241121181300-Ahecht-20241121150600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:13, 21 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-55" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui="{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}"><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a> <dl> <dd> I have made a partial fix <a class="external autonumber" href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title%3DMediaWiki:Revreview-pending-basic%26diff%3Dprev%26oldid%3D1258829219">[1]</a>. It fixes the third and most important link in the message by omitting the bad title. A title is unnecessary in diff links. <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User:PrimeHunter?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User:PrimeHunter">PrimeHunter</a> (<a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User_talk:PrimeHunter?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User talk:PrimeHunter">talk</a>) <a href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Village_pump_(technical)%23c-PrimeHunter-20241121213400-PrimeHunter-20241121181300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:34, 21 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-56" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui="{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}"><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a> </dd> </dl> </dd> </dl> </dd> </dl> </dd> </dl> </section> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section section-heading" onclick="mfTempOpenSection(11)">  <h2 id="code_editor" data-mw-thread-id="h-code_editor-20241122001500">code editor</h2> <a role="button" href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Village_pump_(technical)&action=edit&section=11&_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="Edit section: code editor" class="cdx-button cdx-button--size-large cdx-button--fake-button cdx-button--fake-button--enabled cdx-button--icon-only cdx-button--weight-quiet "> edit </a> <span id="ooui-php-113" class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-overflowMenuButton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui="{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonMenuSelectWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"ellipsis","data":{"itemConfigs":[{"id":"edit","data":{"id":"edit"},"icon":"edit","label":"Edit"}],"resourceLoaderModules":[]},"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-section-overflowMenuButton"]}"><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"></a> <div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"> <div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"> Latest comment: <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/Wikipedia:Village_pump_(technical)?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB#c-Ahecht-20241122151800-Quiddity_(WMF)-20241122015700">2 days ago</a>5 comments4 people in discussion </div> <div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions">  </div> </div> </div> <section class="mf-section-11 collapsible-block" id="mf-section-11"> Yep, I know, Thursday. Something has happened to the code editor. When I start typing, the code editor now pops up a window that shows a list of text strings that may match what it is that I'm typing. This list is not constrained to Lua keywords but apparently is a list of all words in the module. How do I turn that off? —<a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/w/index.php?title=User:Trappist_the_monk&action=edit&redlink=1&_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" class="new" title="User:Trappist the monk (page does not exist)">Trappist the monk</a> (<a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User_talk:Trappist_the_monk?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User talk:Trappist the monk">talk</a>) <a href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Village_pump_(technical)%23c-Trappist_the_monk-20241122001500-code_editor" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:15, 22 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-57" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui="{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}"><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a> <dl> <dd> Try this in <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/Special:MyPage/common.css?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="Special:MyPage/common.css">your CSS</a>: </dd> <dd> <div class="mw-highlight mw-highlight-lang-css mw-content-ltr" dir="ltr"> <pre>.ace_autocomplete {display:none;} </pre> </div> </dd> <dd> <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User:PrimeHunter?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User:PrimeHunter">PrimeHunter</a> (<a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User_talk:PrimeHunter?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User talk:PrimeHunter">talk</a>) <a href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Village_pump_(technical)%23c-PrimeHunter-20241122013000-Trappist_the_monk-20241122001500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">01:30, 22 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-58" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui="{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}"><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a> </dd> <dd> Copying from the <a href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T377663" class="extiw" title="phab:T377663">phab:T377663</a> phab comment: <ul> <li>You can disable it by pressing <code>Ctrl + ,</code> and unticking "Live Autocompletion".</li> </ul> </dd> <dd> (I was looking to see why the change hadn't been proposed for Tech News, and I see someone has just tagged it yesterday, so it will be included next week.) <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User:Quiddity_(WMF)?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User:Quiddity (WMF)">Quiddity (WMF)</a> (<a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User_talk:Quiddity_(WMF)?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User talk:Quiddity (WMF)">talk</a>) <a href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Village_pump_(technical)%23c-Quiddity_(WMF)-20241122015700-Trappist_the_monk-20241122001500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">01:57, 22 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-59" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui="{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}"><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a> <dl> <dd> Thanks both, <code>Ctrl + ,</code> worked. I wonder who thought that key combination is intuitive? Wasn't there a Dilbert comic about such shortcuts? </dd> <dd> —<a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/w/index.php?title=User:Trappist_the_monk&action=edit&redlink=1&_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" class="new" title="User:Trappist the monk (page does not exist)">Trappist the monk</a> (<a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User_talk:Trappist_the_monk?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User talk:Trappist the monk">talk</a>) <a href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Village_pump_(technical)%23c-Trappist_the_monk-20241122123200-Quiddity_(WMF)-20241122015700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:32, 22 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-60" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui="{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}"><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a> </dd> <dd> @<a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User:Quiddity_(WMF)?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User:Quiddity (WMF)">Quiddity (WMF)</a> That's useless because, even if it were documented somewhere, it doesn't persist. You have to re-set that preference every time you load the editor, even if you just hit the "preview" button. --<a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User:Ahecht?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User:Ahecht">Ahecht</a> (<a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User_talk:Ahecht?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User talk:Ahecht">TALK PAGE</a>) <a href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Village_pump_(technical)%23c-Ahecht-20241122151800-Quiddity_(WMF)-20241122015700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:18, 22 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-61" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui="{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}"><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a> </dd> </dl> </dd> </dl> </section> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section section-heading" onclick="mfTempOpenSection(12)">  <h2 id="Proposed_change_to_tabs_on_redirect_pages" data-mw-thread-id="h-Proposed_change_to_tabs_on_redirect_pages-20241122012400">Proposed change to tabs on redirect pages</h2> <a role="button" href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Village_pump_(technical)&action=edit&section=12&_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="Edit section: Proposed change to tabs on redirect pages" class="cdx-button cdx-button--size-large cdx-button--fake-button cdx-button--fake-button--enabled cdx-button--icon-only cdx-button--weight-quiet "> edit </a> <span id="ooui-php-114" class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-overflowMenuButton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui="{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonMenuSelectWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"ellipsis","data":{"itemConfigs":[{"id":"edit","data":{"id":"edit"},"icon":"edit","label":"Edit"}],"resourceLoaderModules":[]},"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-section-overflowMenuButton"]}"><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"></a> <div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"> <div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"> Latest comment: <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/Wikipedia:Village_pump_(technical)?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB#c-Redrose64-20241124003100-Anomie-20241123235900">19 hours ago</a>15 comments8 people in discussion </div> <div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions">  </div> </div> </div> <section class="mf-section-12 collapsible-block" id="mf-section-12"> I am proposing in <a href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T5324%2310347051" class="extiw" title="phab:T5324">phab:T5324#10347051</a> that the page tabs on redirect pages (‘Article/Talk’ and ‘View’ depending on the page) get a small improvement: they would link to redirect pages themselves by default. Currently they link to their targets with a possibility of navigating back. The change should improve navigation from other actions, like going from <a class="external text" href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WOW?action%3Dhistory">history page for "WOW" redirect</a> to the redirect page itself. This should be especially beneficial for English Wikipedia since this community has a system of redirect templates. You would still be able to navigate to redirect target, just with an additional click. Please let me know either here or on Phabricator (by awarding a token or leaving a comment there) if you are for, against or indifferent to this potential change. It was previously <a href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Tech/News/2020/16" class="extiw" title="m:Tech/News/2020/16">announced in Tech News in 2020</a> but no one went on to actually review the change. Hopefully this time would be different. <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User:Stjn?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User:Stjn">stjn</a> <a href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Village_pump_(technical)%23c-Stjn-20241122012400-Proposed_change_to_tabs_on_redirect_pages" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">01:24, 22 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-62" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui="{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}"><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a> <dl> <dd> Unsurprisingly, I agree with the change, having reopened the Phabricator task in 2019. I was using <a class="external text" href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title%3DWikipedia:User_scripts/Requests%26oldid%3D896333339%23Redirect_page_tab_behavior">this one-liner</a> to mitigate for a while. </dd> <dd> The talk page behavior is likely more contentious: essentially this turns talk page redirects into soft redirects when clicking on the 'Talk' tab, which is probably the most common way of accessing them. Numerous closely-related templates use redirects to centralize discussion (example: <a class="external text" href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title%3DTemplate_talk:Cite_news%26redirect%3Dno">Template talk:Cite news</a> and <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/Category:Citation_Style_1_templates?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="Category:Citation Style 1 templates">related templates</a>). Bot talk pages often redirect to the bot operator's talk page (5/10 of the <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/Wikipedia:List_of_bots_by_number_of_edits?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="Wikipedia:List of bots by number of edits">top 10 active bots by edits</a> do this: <a class="external text" href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title%3DUser_talk:Cewbot%26redirect%3Dno">1</a>, <a class="external text" href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title%3DUser_talk:ClueBot_NG%26redirect%3Dno">2</a>, <a class="external text" href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title%3DUser_talk:Qwerfjkl_(bot)%26redirect%3Dno">3</a>, <a class="external text" href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title%3DUser_talk:Monkbot%26redirect%3Dno">4</a>, <a class="external text" href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title%3DUser_talk:JJMC89_bot_III%26redirect%3Dno">5</a>). Also in Wikipedia namespace you can find cases like AN and ANI that have a <a class="external text" href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title%3DWikipedia_talk:Administrators%2527_noticeboard/Incidents%26redirect%3Dno">merged talk</a>. <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User:Retro?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User:Retro">Retro</a> (<a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User_talk:Retro?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB#top" title="User talk:Retro">talk</a> | <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/Special:Contributions/Retro?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="Special:Contributions/Retro">contribs</a>) <a href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Village_pump_(technical)%23c-Retro-20241122065600-Stjn-20241122012400" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">06:56, 22 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-63" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui="{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}"><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a> <dl> <dd> Those are all cases where a normal page has a redirected talk page. I think the proposed change would only apply to redirects with redirected talk pages. <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User:Jlwoodwa?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User:Jlwoodwa">jlwoodwa</a> (<a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User_talk:Jlwoodwa?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User talk:Jlwoodwa">talk</a>) <a href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Village_pump_(technical)%23c-Jlwoodwa-20241122073200-Retro-20241122065600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">07:32, 22 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-64" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui="{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}"><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a> <dl> <dd> Yeah, if that's the case, there's no issue. <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User:Retro?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User:Retro">Retro</a> (<a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User_talk:Retro?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB#top" title="User talk:Retro">talk</a> | <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/Special:Contributions/Retro?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="Special:Contributions/Retro">contribs</a>) <a href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Village_pump_(technical)%23c-Retro-20241122075200-Jlwoodwa-20241122073200" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">07:52, 22 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-65" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui="{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}"><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a> </dd> </dl> </dd> <dd> If I understood correctly even in the case of going from a redirected article to a redirected talk page it would go to the target of the redirected talk page. The change as I understood would be: <ul> <li>When going from history, info,... of a redirected article to the article itself it would stay in the redirect</li> <li>When going from history, info,... of a redirected talk page to the talk itself it would stay in the redirect</li> </ul> </dd> <dd> Going from a redirected article to the redirected talk page would still behave as it does now. -- <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/w/index.php?title=User:Agabi10&action=edit&redlink=1&_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" class="new" title="User:Agabi10 (page does not exist)">Agabi10</a> (<a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User_talk:Agabi10?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User talk:Agabi10">talk</a>) <a href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Village_pump_(technical)%23c-Agabi10-20241122090700-Retro-20241122065600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:07, 22 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-66" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui="{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}"><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a> <dl> <dd> Looking at the current version (Patchset 2) of <a href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/r/1094077" class="extiw" title="gerrit:r/1094077">gerrit:r/1094077</a>, your second bullet is not correct. The behavior is simpler: <ul> <li>The talk tab would still follow the redirect, except when the talk tab is the current tab (e.g. you're already on the talk page with <code>&redirect=no</code>, or viewing the talk page history).</li> <li>The subject tab would always stay in the redirect.</li> <li>Extra tabs, such as TimedText on Commons or Source on Wikisource, will work similarly: stay on redirect if pointing to a subject namespace or are the current tab, follow redirect if pointing to a talk namespace and non-current.</li> </ul> </dd> <dd> Personally, I'm not so sure of this behavior change. When I'm already at a <code>&redirect=no</code>, I tend to click on the tab to follow the redirect. Clicking the link in the "soft-redirect" on the redirect=no page has different behavior in some edge cases (e.g. double redirects) and won't show the "redirected from" on the target page. OTOH, it's better than the more-consistent alternative that Retro was concerned about above, which would have made it much more likely for people to start commenting on redirected talk pages. <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User:Anomie?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User:Anomie">Anomie</a><a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User_talk:Anomie?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User talk:Anomie">⚔</a> <a href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Village_pump_(technical)%23c-Anomie-20241122130100-Agabi10-20241122090700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:01, 22 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-67" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui="{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}"><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a> <dl> <dd> The current Gerrit patchset is a first attempt at implementing this. It should not be referenced as what I want to achieve. Ideally, only the tabs related to the currently viewed page would have <code>redirect=no</code> added. So TimedText/Source etc. should only be affected when they are the current page and user is viewing something related to the redirect. <div class="paragraphbreak" style="margin-top:0.5em"></div>Currently, there is no way to get to view the redirect page in one click even if you are on edit/history pages. That is more unacceptable than someone being a bit inconvenienced by having to click to the big article name and not the tab. <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User:Stjn?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User:Stjn">stjn</a> <a href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Village_pump_(technical)%23c-Stjn-20241122132300-Anomie-20241122130100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:23, 22 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-68" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui="{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}"><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a> <dl> <dd> How often do people really need to get to view the redirect page that one click rather than two for this use case outweighs the drawbacks of increasing the inconsistency of the UI and requiring editing the URL to follow the redirect as a reader would? <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User:Anomie?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User:Anomie">Anomie</a><a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User_talk:Anomie?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User talk:Anomie">⚔</a> <a href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Village_pump_(technical)%23c-Anomie-20241123131100-Stjn-20241122132300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:11, 23 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-69" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui="{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}"><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a> <dl> <dd> ‘Increasing inconsistency’ is your personal opinion that multiple people already disagreed with. In my opinion, it would decrease the inconsistency, as all the other page tabs relate and point to the current page, and not to the redirect target, so the main ones should, too. Currently people are already required to edit the URL, just in the other direction. <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User:Stjn?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User:Stjn">stjn</a> <a href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Village_pump_(technical)%23c-Stjn-20241123143200-Anomie-20241123131100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:32, 23 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-70" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui="{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}"><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a> <dl> <dd> The inconsistency I referred to is that, with your proposed change, the tab will sometimes follow the redirect and sometimes not. PS6 seems intended to make it more sometimes-and-sometimes-not. As for URL editing, people don't have to edit the URL to get to the redirect page now, but they do need two clicks: one on the tab, following the redirect, and then one the "Redirected from" under the page title to get to the redirect itself. <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User:Anomie?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User:Anomie">Anomie</a><a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User_talk:Anomie?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User talk:Anomie">⚔</a> <a href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Village_pump_(technical)%23c-Anomie-20241123235900-Stjn-20241123143200" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:59, 23 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-71" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui="{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}"><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a> <dl> <dd> When I started on Wikipedia, waaaay back in May 2009, if you clicked on a link for a redirect, the redirection would occur client-side and your browsing history would get two entries: one for the redirect page, and one for where you got redirected to. An effect of this was that you needed to use the browser's "back" feature twice in order to return to where you first came from. A bonus side effect was that if you only used "back" once, you could then work on the redirect page directly - "edit", "history", etc., even "move" if you were that silly. Nowadays the redirection is performed server-side, which in some ways makes it harder. --<a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User:Redrose64?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User:Redrose64">Redrose64</a> 🌹 (<a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User_talk:Redrose64?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User talk:Redrose64">talk</a>) <a href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Village_pump_(technical)%23c-Redrose64-20241124003100-Anomie-20241123235900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:31, 24 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-72" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui="{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}"><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a> </dd> </dl> </dd> </dl> </dd> </dl> </dd> </dl> </dd> <dd> Gerrit patch was improved to not affect the non-current or extra tabs. <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User:Stjn?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User:Stjn">stjn</a> <a href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Village_pump_(technical)%23c-Stjn-20241122154100-Anomie-20241122130100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:41, 22 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-73" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui="{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}"><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a> </dd> </dl> </dd> </dl> </dd> <dd> I only mean that if someone is on the redirect talk page, they should be able to navigate to it from ‘Talk’ tab. Otherwise (‘Talk’ page on non-talk pages) there should be no change. <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User:Stjn?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User:Stjn">stjn</a> <a href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Village_pump_(technical)%23c-Stjn-20241122124200-Retro-20241122065600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:42, 22 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-74" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui="{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}"><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a> </dd> <dd> My initial thought is that this seems fine, since it'll only affect editors (readers have basically no reason to end up at a redirect page). But overall we should be careful not to <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/Wikipedia:Reader?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="Wikipedia:Reader">focus unduly</a> on our editing needs over their reading needs. <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User:Sdkb?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User:Sdkb">Sdkb</a> <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User_talk:Sdkb?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User talk:Sdkb">talk</a> <a href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Village_pump_(technical)%23c-Sdkb-20241122170400-Retro-20241122065600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:04, 22 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-75" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui="{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}"><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a> </dd> </dl> </dd> <dd> I'm confused about what is being proposed here, so I'll just say that if the URL of the page I'm viewing includes "redirect=no" then I want that to be preserved when I click the article or talk tabs. When I'm viewing the non-redirected talk page of a redirect and click the article tab I could be wanting either the reidrect or its target, probably the former about two thirds to three quarters of the time, but as someone who does a lot of work with redirects I don't know how typical my workflow is. <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User:Thryduulf?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User:Thryduulf">Thryduulf</a> (<a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User_talk:Thryduulf?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User talk:Thryduulf">talk</a>) <a href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Village_pump_(technical)%23c-Thryduulf-20241123135500-Stjn-20241122012400" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:55, 23 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-76" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui="{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}"><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a> </dd> </dl> </section> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section section-heading" onclick="mfTempOpenSection(13)">  <h2 id="Mobile_wikipedia_images_problem" data-mw-thread-id="h-Mobile_wikipedia_images_problem-20241122143400">Mobile wikipedia images problem</h2> <a role="button" href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Village_pump_(technical)&action=edit&section=13&_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="Edit section: Mobile wikipedia images problem" class="cdx-button cdx-button--size-large cdx-button--fake-button cdx-button--fake-button--enabled cdx-button--icon-only cdx-button--weight-quiet "> edit </a> <span id="ooui-php-115" class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-overflowMenuButton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui="{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonMenuSelectWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"ellipsis","data":{"itemConfigs":[{"id":"edit","data":{"id":"edit"},"icon":"edit","label":"Edit"}],"resourceLoaderModules":[]},"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-section-overflowMenuButton"]}"><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"></a> <div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"> <div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"> Latest comment: <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/Wikipedia:Village_pump_(technical)?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB#c-31.217.45.191-20241122193500-PrimeHunter-20241122162100">2 days ago</a>3 comments2 people in discussion </div> <div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions">  </div> </div> </div> <section class="mf-section-13 collapsible-block" id="mf-section-13"> Images on the sides of articles don't show up with Javscript disabled on en.m.wikipedia.org, only their captions. Images in the infobox and the main page load normally. If you don't want to show images in articles to users who disable Javascript in Firefox please remove the captions too so there's no clutter. <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/Special:Contributions/31.217.45.191?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="Special:Contributions/31.217.45.191">31.217.45.191</a> (<a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/w/index.php?title=User_talk:31.217.45.191&action=edit&redlink=1&_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" class="new" title="User talk:31.217.45.191 (page does not exist)">talk</a>) <a href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Village_pump_(technical)%23c-31.217.45.191-20241122143400-Mobile_wikipedia_images_problem" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:34, 22 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-77" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui="{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}"><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a> <dl> <dd> It works for me with Firefox 132.0.2 (64-bit) on Windows 10, JavaScript disabled, both logged in and out. For example, I see <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/File:SN1998aq_max_spectra.svg?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="File:SN1998aq max spectra.svg">File:SN1998aq max spectra.svg</a> at <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/Type_Ia_supernova?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB#Consensus_model" title="Type Ia supernova">Type Ia supernova#Consensus model</a>. Do you see the image on the article? On the file page? At <a class="external free" href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/25/SN1998aq_max_spectra.svg">https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/25/SN1998aq_max_spectra.svg</a>? If you see it on the article then please give an example you don't see. <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User:PrimeHunter?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User:PrimeHunter">PrimeHunter</a> (<a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User_talk:PrimeHunter?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User talk:PrimeHunter">talk</a>) <a href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Village_pump_(technical)%23c-PrimeHunter-20241122162100-31.217.45.191-20241122143400" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:21, 22 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-78" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui="{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}"><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a> <dl> <dd> My bad, I accidentally disabled <noscript> tags too in my browser. Sorry <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/Special:Contributions/31.217.45.191?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="Special:Contributions/31.217.45.191">31.217.45.191</a> (<a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/w/index.php?title=User_talk:31.217.45.191&action=edit&redlink=1&_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" class="new" title="User talk:31.217.45.191 (page does not exist)">talk</a>) <a href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Village_pump_(technical)%23c-31.217.45.191-20241122193500-PrimeHunter-20241122162100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:35, 22 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-79" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui="{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}"><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a> </dd> </dl> </dd> </dl> </section> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section section-heading" onclick="mfTempOpenSection(14)">  <h2 id="Electcom_seeks_technical_assistance" data-mw-thread-id="h-Electcom_seeks_technical_assistance-20241123001900">Electcom seeks technical assistance</h2> <a role="button" href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Village_pump_(technical)&action=edit&section=14&_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="Edit section: Electcom seeks technical assistance" class="cdx-button cdx-button--size-large cdx-button--fake-button cdx-button--fake-button--enabled cdx-button--icon-only cdx-button--weight-quiet "> edit </a> <span id="ooui-php-116" class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-overflowMenuButton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui="{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonMenuSelectWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"ellipsis","data":{"itemConfigs":[{"id":"edit","data":{"id":"edit"},"icon":"edit","label":"Edit"}],"resourceLoaderModules":[]},"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-section-overflowMenuButton"]}"><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"></a> <div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"> <div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"> Latest comment: <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/Wikipedia:Village_pump_(technical)?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB#c-RoySmith-20241123211500-Serial_Number_54129-20241123205200">22 hours ago</a>16 comments8 people in discussion </div> <div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions">  </div> </div> </div> <section class="mf-section-14 collapsible-block" id="mf-section-14"> <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1235781174"> <div role="note" class="hmbox-outer resolved"> <div class="hmbox-inner"> <noscript> <img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/20px-Yes_check.svg.png" decoding="async" width="20" height="20" class="mw-file-element" data-file-width="600" data-file-height="600"> </noscript><span class="lazy-image-placeholder" style="width: 20px;height: 20px;" data-src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/20px-Yes_check.svg.png" data-alt="" data-width="20" data-height="20" data-srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/30px-Yes_check.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/40px-Yes_check.svg.png 2x" data-class="mw-file-element">  Resolved </div> – Thank you everybody for your input. I think we've got this resolved now. <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User:RoySmith?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User:RoySmith">RoySmith</a> <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User_talk:RoySmith?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User talk:RoySmith">(talk)</a> <a href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Village_pump_(technical)%23c-RoySmith-20241123160000-Electcom_seeks_technical_assistance" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:00, 23 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-80" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui="{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}"><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a> </div> In dealing with an issue, electcom implemented <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/Special:Diff/1258984383?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="Special:Diff/1258984383">Special:Diff/1258984383</a> which unfortunately broke the question numbering. I'd appreciate any suggestions on what wikimarkup could be used to keep the hatted text hatted and also preserve the question numbering sequence. <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User:RoySmith?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User:RoySmith">RoySmith</a> <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User_talk:RoySmith?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User talk:RoySmith">(talk)</a> <a href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Village_pump_(technical)%23c-RoySmith-20241123001900-Electcom_seeks_technical_assistance" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:19, 23 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-81" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui="{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}"><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a> <dl> <dd> Is this still a problem? I see the question numbers, including the collapsed one at question 21. If still an issue, please describe the problem a bit more. — <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User:Xaosflux?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User:Xaosflux">xaosflux</a> <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User_talk:Xaosflux?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User talk:Xaosflux">Talk</a> <a href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Village_pump_(technical)%23c-Xaosflux-20241123003800-RoySmith-20241123001900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:38, 23 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-82" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui="{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}"><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a> <dl> <dd> Try uncollapsing the text, and then try adding a new question beneath the old one. <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User:Izno?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User:Izno">Izno</a> (<a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User_talk:Izno?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User talk:Izno">talk</a>) <a href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Village_pump_(technical)%23c-Izno-20241123004100-Xaosflux-20241123003800" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:41, 23 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-83" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui="{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}"><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a> </dd> </dl> </dd> <dd> {{<a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/Template:ACE_Question?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="Template:ACE Question">ACE Question</a>}} is implemented in a way which makes this practically impossible without something in the hatted text looking off if you collapse things. It basically assumes the structure of the container (an ordered list) and then indents the answer with wikitext <code>#:</code>. That is a flaw of that template that cannot be corrected without some non-0 study. <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User:Izno?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User:Izno">Izno</a> (<a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User_talk:Izno?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User talk:Izno">talk</a>) <a href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Village_pump_(technical)%23c-Izno-20241123004100-RoySmith-20241123001900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:41, 23 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-84" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui="{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}"><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a> <dl> <dd> Not only that, but {{<a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/Template:Hab?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" class="mw-redirect" title="Template:Hab">hab</a>}} only works if it's added at a new line, which would break the numbering either way. </dd> <dd> <s>The way it is currently</s> the hat just swallows new questions, the hab having no effect. – <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/Special:Contributions/2804:F14:80BF:B801:2C78:517F:5E86:EF41?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="Special:Contributions/2804:F14:80BF:B801:2C78:517F:5E86:EF41">2804:F1...86:EF41</a> (<a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/Special:Contributions/2804:F14::/32?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="Special:Contributions/2804:F14::/32">::/32</a>) (<a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/w/index.php?title=User_talk:2804:F14:80BF:B801:2C78:517F:5E86:EF41&action=edit&redlink=1&_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" class="new" title="User talk:2804:F14:80BF:B801:2C78:517F:5E86:EF41 (page does not exist)">talk</a>) <a href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Village_pump_(technical)%23c-2804:F14:80BF:B801:2C78:517F:5E86:EF41-20241123030100-Izno-20241123004100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">03:01, 23 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-85" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui="{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}"><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a> </dd> </dl> </dd> <dd> The easy answer is just to remove the text instead of collapsing it. —<a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User:Cryptic?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" class="mw-redirect" title="User:Cryptic">Cryptic</a> <a href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Village_pump_(technical)%23c-Cryptic-20241123004500-RoySmith-20241123001900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:45, 23 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-86" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui="{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}"><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a> <dl> <dd> OK, thank you all for the assistance. We'll put our heads together off-wiki and figure out a plan. <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User:RoySmith?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User:RoySmith">RoySmith</a> <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User_talk:RoySmith?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User talk:RoySmith">(talk)</a> <a href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Village_pump_(technical)%23c-RoySmith-20241123005000-Cryptic-20241123004500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:50, 23 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-87" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui="{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}"><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a> </dd> </dl> </dd> <dd> You could create a wrapper div for the questions after 21 with a special class name, then create a style sheet (using <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/Wikipedia:TemplateStyles?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="Wikipedia:TemplateStyles">Wikipedia:TemplateStyles</a>) that sets the starting number of the ordered list within that div. <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/w/index.php?title=User:Isaacl&action=edit&redlink=1&_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" class="new" title="User:Isaacl (page does not exist)">isaacl</a> (<a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User_talk:Isaacl?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User talk:Isaacl">talk</a>) <a href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Village_pump_(technical)%23c-Isaacl-20241123015200-RoySmith-20241123001900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">01:52, 23 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-88" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui="{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}"><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a> <dl> <dd> More kludgily, since the list would be the second ordered list in the content area, the corresponding style sheet rule could be written to target the second ordered list. That would avoid the need for a wrapper div. <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/w/index.php?title=User:Isaacl&action=edit&redlink=1&_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" class="new" title="User:Isaacl (page does not exist)">isaacl</a> (<a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User_talk:Isaacl?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User talk:Isaacl">talk</a>) <a href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Village_pump_(technical)%23c-Isaacl-20241123020000-Isaacl-20241123015200" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">02:00, 23 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-89" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui="{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}"><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a> <dl> <dd> The style rule would be something like the following: <div class="mw-highlight mw-highlight-lang-css mw-content-ltr" dir="ltr"> <pre>.mw-body-content ol:nth-of-type(2) li:nth-of-type(1) { counter-set: list-item 22; } </pre> </div> </dd> <dd> <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/w/index.php?title=User:Isaacl&action=edit&redlink=1&_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" class="new" title="User:Isaacl (page does not exist)">isaacl</a> (<a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User_talk:Isaacl?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User talk:Isaacl">talk</a>) <a href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Village_pump_(technical)%23c-Isaacl-20241123024500-Isaacl-20241123020000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">02:45, 23 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-90" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui="{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}"><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a> <dl> <dd> @<a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/w/index.php?title=User:Isaacl&action=edit&redlink=1&_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" class="new" title="User:Isaacl (page does not exist)">Isaacl</a>: You don't need to go to those lengths. Ordered lists can be fudged directly, check this out: <div class="mw-highlight mw-highlight-lang-wikitext mw-content-ltr" dir="ltr"> <pre>Here is a list: #This is the first item #Second item #<li value=4>Not the third item #List continues with text after. </pre> </div> It's demonstrated at <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/Special:PermanentLink/1259129034?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="Special:PermanentLink/1259129034">WP:Sandbox</a>. --<a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User:Redrose64?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User:Redrose64">Redrose64</a> 🌹 (<a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User_talk:Redrose64?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User talk:Redrose64">talk</a>) <a href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Village_pump_(technical)%23c-Redrose64-20241123144900-Isaacl-20241123024500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:49, 23 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-91" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui="{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}"><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a> </dd> </dl> </dd> </dl> </dd> </dl> </dd> <dd> From an accessibility point of view, is any other choice other than replacing with text (maybe with a permalink if you want it to be accessible) even good? </dd> <dd> The only thing I found that sorta works is wrapping it all in a <code>{{efn|1= ... }}</code>, but then you have to add a notelist somewhere where the question will actually appear (collapse and all). That doesn't break the numbering of the questions afterwards. – <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/Special:Contributions/2804:F14:80BF:B801:2C78:517F:5E86:EF41?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="Special:Contributions/2804:F14:80BF:B801:2C78:517F:5E86:EF41">2804:F1...86:EF41</a> (<a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/Special:Contributions/2804:F14::/32?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="Special:Contributions/2804:F14::/32">::/32</a>) (<a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/w/index.php?title=User_talk:2804:F14:80BF:B801:2C78:517F:5E86:EF41&action=edit&redlink=1&_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" class="new" title="User talk:2804:F14:80BF:B801:2C78:517F:5E86:EF41 (page does not exist)">talk</a>) <a href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Village_pump_(technical)%23c-2804:F14:80BF:B801:2C78:517F:5E86:EF41-20241123034000-RoySmith-20241123001900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">03:40, 23 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-92" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui="{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}"><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a> </dd> </dl> <ul> <li>@<a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User:RoySmith?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User:RoySmith">RoySmith</a>: To be honest, I don't think it needs a complicated technical response. ARBPIA states that this restriction may be enforced by other methods, including ... reverts, and that applies On any page where the restriction is not enforced through ECP. So you can just get rid of it, much easier. <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User_talk:Serial_Number_54129?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User talk:Serial Number 54129">SerialNumber</a><a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/Special:Contributions/Serial_Number_54129?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="Special:Contributions/Serial Number 54129">54129</a> <a href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Village_pump_(technical)%23c-Serial_Number_54129-20241123153400-RoySmith-20241123001900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:34, 23 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-93" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui="{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}"><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a></li> <li>Thank you for unboxing, Redrose64. It was bloody uncivil of <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User:RoySmith?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User:RoySmith">RoySmith</a> to shut it off in the first place. <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User_talk:Serial_Number_54129?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User talk:Serial Number 54129">SerialNumber</a><a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/Special:Contributions/Serial_Number_54129?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="Special:Contributions/Serial Number 54129">54129</a> <a href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Village_pump_(technical)%23c-Serial_Number_54129-20241123205200-RoySmith-20241123001900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:52, 23 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-94" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui="{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}"><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a> <dl> <dd> I didn't mean to be uncivil. I had the answers I needed, that was all. If folks want to continue to chat about this, please feel free to do so. <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User:RoySmith?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User:RoySmith">RoySmith</a> <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User_talk:RoySmith?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User talk:RoySmith">(talk)</a> <a href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Village_pump_(technical)%23c-RoySmith-20241123211500-Serial_Number_54129-20241123205200" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:15, 23 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-95" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui="{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}"><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a> </dd> </dl></li> </ul> </section> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section section-heading" onclick="mfTempOpenSection(15)">  <h2 id="Article_incorrectly_marked_as_List_class" data-mw-thread-id="h-Article_incorrectly_marked_as_List_class-20241123092100">Article incorrectly marked as List class</h2> <a role="button" href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Village_pump_(technical)&action=edit&section=15&_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="Edit section: Article incorrectly marked as List class" class="cdx-button cdx-button--size-large cdx-button--fake-button cdx-button--fake-button--enabled cdx-button--icon-only cdx-button--weight-quiet "> edit </a> <span id="ooui-php-117" class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-overflowMenuButton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui="{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonMenuSelectWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"ellipsis","data":{"itemConfigs":[{"id":"edit","data":{"id":"edit"},"icon":"edit","label":"Edit"}],"resourceLoaderModules":[]},"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-section-overflowMenuButton"]}"><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"></a> <div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"> <div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"> Latest comment: <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/Wikipedia:Village_pump_(technical)?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB#c-Editør-20241124182400-Gonnym-20241124144900">1 hour ago</a>5 comments3 people in discussion </div> <div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions">  </div> </div> </div> <section class="mf-section-15 collapsible-block" id="mf-section-15"> I noticed that the article <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/Femke?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="Femke">Femke</a> is wrongly marked as List class on the <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/Talk:Femke?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="Talk:Femke">talk page</a>, where it should have been marked as GA class, like I believe it was previously, but now the class in the banner shell appears to be overridden. I suspect that this is somehow caused by / related to the <code>{{<a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/Template:Given_name?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="Template:Given name">given name</a>}}</code> template, despite the <code>section=y</code> parameter that indicates only one section and not the whole article contains a list of given names. Could this be fixed? – Editør (<a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User_talk:Edit%C3%B8r?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User talk:Editør">talk</a>) <a href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Village_pump_(technical)%23c-Edit%25C3%25B8r-20241123092100-Article_incorrectly_marked_as_List_class" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:21, 23 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-96" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui="{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}"><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a> <dl> <dd> @<a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/w/index.php?title=User:Edit%C3%B8r&action=edit&redlink=1&_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" class="new" title="User:Editør (page does not exist)">Editør</a>: This is due to recent changes at <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/Module:Banner_shell?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="Module:Banner shell">Module:Banner shell</a>. You should see if there's anything on the matter at <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/Template_talk:WikiProject_banner_shell?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="Template talk:WikiProject banner shell">Template talk:WikiProject banner shell</a>. If there isn't, raise a thread on that page and and notify <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User:MSGJ?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User:MSGJ">MSGJ</a> (<a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User_talk:MSGJ?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User talk:MSGJ">talk</a> · <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/Special:Contributions/MSGJ?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="Special:Contributions/MSGJ">contribs</a>) when doing so. --<a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User:Redrose64?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User:Redrose64">Redrose64</a> 🌹 (<a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User_talk:Redrose64?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User talk:Redrose64">talk</a>) <a href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Village_pump_(technical)%23c-Redrose64-20241123141600-Edit%25C3%25B8r-20241123092100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:16, 23 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-97" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui="{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}"><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a> <dl> <dd> Thanks. I couldn't find this topic on the talk page, so I <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/Template_talk:WikiProject_banner_shell?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB#Article_wrongly_marked_as_List_class" title="Template talk:WikiProject banner shell">added</a> it as advised. – Editør (<a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User_talk:Edit%C3%B8r?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User talk:Editør">talk</a>) <a href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Village_pump_(technical)%23c-Edit%25C3%25B8r-20241123171700-Redrose64-20241123141600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:17, 23 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-98" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui="{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}"><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a> </dd> </dl> </dd> <dd> The first sentence of that template says <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1248585704"><q class="inline-quote-talk">Template:given name is only for use on Wikipedia set index articles</q>. If <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/Femke?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="Femke">Femke</a> isn't a set index article, then that template shouldn't be used there. Misusing templates can and usually does, break other things. Remove the template from that page and the banner should work. <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User:Gonnym?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User:Gonnym">Gonnym</a> (<a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User_talk:Gonnym?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User talk:Gonnym">talk</a>) <a href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Village_pump_(technical)%23c-Gonnym-20241124144900-Edit%25C3%25B8r-20241123092100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:49, 24 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-99" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui="{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}"><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a> <dl> <dd> Thank you for your comment, I've replied <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/Template_talk:WikiProject_banner_shell?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB#c-Edit%C3%B8r-20241124182200-Gonnym-20241124154200" title="Template talk:WikiProject banner shell">here</a>. – Editør (<a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User_talk:Edit%C3%B8r?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User talk:Editør">talk</a>) <a href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Village_pump_(technical)%23c-Edit%25C3%25B8r-20241124182400-Gonnym-20241124144900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:24, 24 November 2024 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II/TemplateProtector">User:MusikBot II/TemplateProtector</a></h2> <a role="button" href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Village_pump_(technical)&action=edit&section=16&_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="Edit section: Concern involving User:MusikBot II/TemplateProtector" class="cdx-button cdx-button--size-large cdx-button--fake-button cdx-button--fake-button--enabled cdx-button--icon-only cdx-button--weight-quiet "> edit </a> <span id="ooui-php-118" class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-overflowMenuButton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui="{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonMenuSelectWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"ellipsis","data":{"itemConfigs":[{"id":"edit","data":{"id":"edit"},"icon":"edit","label":"Edit"}],"resourceLoaderModules":[]},"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-section-overflowMenuButton"]}"><a role="button" tabindex="0" 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</noscript><span class="lazy-image-placeholder" style="width: 20px;height: 20px;" data-src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/d2/Purple_arrow_right.svg/20px-Purple_arrow_right.svg.png" data-alt="" data-width="20" data-height="20" data-srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/d2/Purple_arrow_right.svg/30px-Purple_arrow_right.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/d2/Purple_arrow_right.svg/40px-Purple_arrow_right.svg.png 2x" data-class="mw-file-element">  Moved to <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User_talk:MusikAnimal?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User talk:MusikAnimal">User talk:MusikAnimal</a> </div> </div> <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User:JJPMaster?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User:JJPMaster">JJP</a><a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User_talk:JJPMaster?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User talk:JJPMaster">Mas</a><a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/Special:Contributions/JJPMaster?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="Special:Contributions/JJPMaster">ter</a> (<a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/She_(pronoun)?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="She (pronoun)">she</a>/<a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/Singular_they?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="Singular they">they</a>) <a href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Village_pump_(technical)%23c-JJPMaster-20241123194900-Concern_involving_User:MusikBot_II/TemplateProtector" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:49, 23 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-101" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement 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class="interlanguage-link-target">Bahasa Indonesia</a></li> <li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-it mw-list-item"><a href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Officina" title="Wikipedia:Officina – Italian" lang="it" hreflang="it" data-title="Wikipedia:Officina" data-language-autonym="Italiano" data-language-local-name="Italian" class="interlanguage-link-target">Italiano</a></li> <li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-jv mw-list-item"><a href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://jv.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikip%25C3%25A9dia:Angkringan_T%25C3%25A8hnis" title="Wikipédia:Angkringan Tèhnis – Javanese" lang="jv" hreflang="jv" data-title="Wikipédia:Angkringan Tèhnis" data-language-autonym="Jawa" data-language-local-name="Javanese" class="interlanguage-link-target">Jawa</a></li> <li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-ka mw-list-item"><a href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://ka.wikipedia.org/wiki/%25E1%2583%2595%25E1%2583%2598%25E1%2583%2599%25E1%2583%2598%25E1%2583%259E%25E1%2583%2594%25E1%2583%2593%25E1%2583%2598%25E1%2583%2590:%25E1%2583%25A4%25E1%2583%259D%25E1%2583%25A0%25E1%2583%25A3%25E1%2583%259B%25E1%2583%2598/%25E1%2583%25A2%25E1%2583%2594%25E1%2583%25A5%25E1%2583%259C%25E1%2583%2598%25E1%2583%2599%25E1%2583%25A3%25E1%2583%25A0%25E1%2583%2598_%25E1%2583%25A1%25E1%2583%2590%25E1%2583%2599%25E1%2583%2598%25E1%2583%2597%25E1%2583%25AE%25E1%2583%2594%25E1%2583%2591%25E1%2583%2598" title="ვიკიპედია:ფორუმი/ტექნიკური საკითხები – Georgian" lang="ka" hreflang="ka" data-title="ვიკიპედია:ფორუმი/ტექნიკური საკითხები" data-language-autonym="ქართული" data-language-local-name="Georgian" class="interlanguage-link-target">ქართული</a></li> <li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-ks mw-list-item"><a href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://ks.wikipedia.org/wiki/%25D9%2588%25D9%2590%25DA%25A9%25DB%258C%25D9%2596%25D9%25BE%25DB%258C%25D9%2596%25DA%2588%25DB%258C%25D8%25A7:%25D8%25A7%25D8%25A0%25D8%25B3%25D9%258E%25D9%2585%25D8%25A8%25D9%258E%25D9%2584%25DB%258C_(%25D8%25AA%25D9%258E%25DA%25A9%25D9%2586%25DB%258C%25D9%2596%25DA%25A9%25DB%258C)" title="وِکیٖپیٖڈیا:اؠسَمبَلی (تَکنیٖکی) – Kashmiri" lang="ks" hreflang="ks" data-title="وِکیٖپیٖڈیا:اؠسَمبَلی (تَکنیٖکی)" data-language-autonym="कॉशुर / کٲشُر" data-language-local-name="Kashmiri" class="interlanguage-link-target">कॉशुर / کٲشُر</a></li> <li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-kk mw-list-item"><a href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://kk.wikipedia.org/wiki/%25D0%25A3%25D0%25B8%25D0%25BA%25D0%25B8%25D0%25BF%25D0%25B5%25D0%25B4%25D0%25B8%25D1%258F:%25D0%25A4%25D0%25BE%25D1%2580%25D1%2583%25D0%25BC/%25D0%25A2%25D0%25B5%25D1%2585%25D0%25BD%25D0%25B8%25D0%25BA%25D0%25B0%25D0%25BB%25D1%258B%25D2%259B" title="Уикипедия:Форум/Техникалық – Kazakh" lang="kk" hreflang="kk" data-title="Уикипедия:Форум/Техникалық" data-language-autonym="Қазақша" data-language-local-name="Kazakh" class="interlanguage-link-target">Қазақша</a></li> <li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-ku mw-list-item"><a href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://ku.wikipedia.org/wiki/W%25C3%25AEk%25C3%25AEpediya:D%25C3%25AEwan_(tekn%25C3%25AEk%25C3%25AE)" title="Wîkîpediya:Dîwan (teknîkî) – Kurdish" lang="ku" hreflang="ku" data-title="Wîkîpediya:Dîwan (teknîkî)" data-language-autonym="Kurdî" data-language-local-name="Kurdish" class="interlanguage-link-target">Kurdî</a></li> <li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-la mw-list-item"><a href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://la.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vicipaedia:Nuntii_Technici" title="Vicipaedia:Nuntii Technici – Latin" lang="la" hreflang="la" data-title="Vicipaedia:Nuntii Technici" data-language-autonym="Latina" data-language-local-name="Latin" class="interlanguage-link-target">Latina</a></li> <li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-hu mw-list-item"><a href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://hu.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikip%25C3%25A9dia:Kocsmafal_(m%25C5%25B1szaki)" title="Wikipédia:Kocsmafal (műszaki) – Hungarian" lang="hu" hreflang="hu" data-title="Wikipédia:Kocsmafal (műszaki)" data-language-autonym="Magyar" data-language-local-name="Hungarian" class="interlanguage-link-target">Magyar</a></li> <li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-ml mw-list-item"><a href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://ml.wikipedia.org/wiki/%25E0%25B4%25B5%25E0%25B4%25BF%25E0%25B4%2595%25E0%25B5%258D%25E0%25B4%2595%25E0%25B4%25BF%25E0%25B4%25AA%25E0%25B5%2580%25E0%25B4%25A1%25E0%25B4%25BF%25E0%25B4%25AF:%25E0%25B4%25AA%25E0%25B4%259E%25E0%25B5%258D%25E0%25B4%259A%25E0%25B4%25BE%25E0%25B4%25AF%25E0%25B4%25A4%25E0%25B5%258D%25E0%25B4%25A4%25E0%25B5%258D_(%25E0%25B4%25B8%25E0%25B4%25BE%25E0%25B4%2599%25E0%25B5%258D%25E0%25B4%2595%25E0%25B5%2587%25E0%25B4%25A4%25E0%25B4%25BF%25E0%25B4%2595%25E0%25B4%2582)" title="വിക്കിപീഡിയ:പഞ്ചായത്ത് (സാങ്കേതികം) – Malayalam" lang="ml" hreflang="ml" data-title="വിക്കിപീഡിയ:പഞ്ചായത്ത് (സാങ്കേതികം)" data-language-autonym="മലയാളം" data-language-local-name="Malayalam" class="interlanguage-link-target">മലയാളം</a></li> <li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-mr mw-list-item"><a href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://mr.wikipedia.org/wiki/%25E0%25A4%25B5%25E0%25A4%25BF%25E0%25A4%2595%25E0%25A4%25BF%25E0%25A4%25AA%25E0%25A5%2580%25E0%25A4%25A1%25E0%25A4%25BF%25E0%25A4%25AF%25E0%25A4%25BE:%25E0%25A4%259A%25E0%25A4%25BE%25E0%25A4%25B5%25E0%25A4%25A1%25E0%25A5%2580/%25E0%25A4%25A4%25E0%25A4%25BE%25E0%25A4%2582%25E0%25A4%25A4%25E0%25A5%258D%25E0%25A4%25B0%25E0%25A4%25BF%25E0%25A4%2595_%25E0%25A4%25AA%25E0%25A5%258D%25E0%25A4%25B0%25E0%25A4%25B6%25E0%25A5%258D%25E0%25A4%25A8" title="विकिपीडिया:चावडी/तांत्रिक प्रश्न – Marathi" lang="mr" hreflang="mr" data-title="विकिपीडिया:चावडी/तांत्रिक प्रश्न" data-language-autonym="मराठी" data-language-local-name="Marathi" class="interlanguage-link-target">मराठी</a></li> <li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-ms mw-list-item"><a href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://ms.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Kedai_Kopi_(teknikal)" title="Wikipedia:Kedai Kopi (teknikal) – Malay" lang="ms" hreflang="ms" data-title="Wikipedia:Kedai Kopi (teknikal)" data-language-autonym="Bahasa Melayu" data-language-local-name="Malay" class="interlanguage-link-target">Bahasa Melayu</a></li> <li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-my mw-list-item"><a href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://my.wikipedia.org/wiki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title="ဝီကီပီးဒီးယား:လက်ဖက်ရည်ဆိုင် (နည်းပညာ) – Burmese" lang="my" hreflang="my" data-title="ဝီကီပီးဒီးယား:လက်ဖက်ရည်ဆိုင် (နည်းပညာ)" data-language-autonym="မြန်မာဘာသာ" data-language-local-name="Burmese" class="interlanguage-link-target">မြန်မာဘာသာ</a></li> <li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-nl mw-list-item"><a href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:SHEIC" title="Wikipedia:SHEIC – Dutch" lang="nl" hreflang="nl" data-title="Wikipedia:SHEIC" data-language-autonym="Nederlands" data-language-local-name="Dutch" class="interlanguage-link-target">Nederlands</a></li> <li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-ne mw-list-item"><a href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://ne.wikipedia.org/wiki/%25E0%25A4%25B5%25E0%25A4%25BF%25E0%25A4%2595%25E0%25A4%25BF%25E0%25A4%25AA%25E0%25A4%25BF%25E0%25A4%25A1%25E0%25A4%25BF%25E0%25A4%25AF%25E0%25A4%25BE:%25E0%25A4%259A%25E0%25A5%258C%25E0%25A4%25A4%25E0%25A4%25BE%25E0%25A4%25B0%25E0%25A5%2580_(%25E0%25A4%25AA%25E0%25A5%258D%25E0%25A4%25B0%25E0%25A4%25BE%25E0%25A4%25B5%25E0%25A4%25BF%25E0%25A4%25A7%25E0%25A4%25BF%25E0%25A4%2595)" title="विकिपिडिया:चौतारी (प्राविधिक) – Nepali" lang="ne" hreflang="ne" data-title="विकिपिडिया:चौतारी (प्राविधिक)" data-language-autonym="नेपाली" data-language-local-name="Nepali" class="interlanguage-link-target">नेपाली</a></li> <li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-ce mw-list-item"><a href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://ce.wikipedia.org/wiki/%25D0%2592%25D0%25B8%25D0%25BA%25D0%25B8%25D0%25BF%25D0%25B5%25D0%25B4%25D0%25B8:%25D0%25A4%25D0%25BE%25D1%2580%25D1%2583%25D0%25BC/%25D0%25A2%25D0%25B5%25D1%2585%25D0%25BD%25D0%25B8%25D0%25BA%25D0%25B8%25D0%25BD" title="Википеди:Форум/Техникин – Chechen" lang="ce" hreflang="ce" data-title="Википеди:Форум/Техникин" data-language-autonym="Нохчийн" data-language-local-name="Chechen" class="interlanguage-link-target">Нохчийн</a></li> <li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-frr mw-list-item"><a href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://frr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:T%25C3%25A4chnik" title="Wikipedia:Tächnik – Northern Frisian" lang="frr" hreflang="frr" data-title="Wikipedia:Tächnik" data-language-autonym="Nordfriisk" data-language-local-name="Northern Frisian" class="interlanguage-link-target">Nordfriisk</a></li> <li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-uz mw-list-item"><a href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://uz.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vikipediya:Forum/Texnik_savollar" title="Vikipediya:Forum/Texnik savollar – Uzbek" lang="uz" hreflang="uz" data-title="Vikipediya:Forum/Texnik savollar" data-language-autonym="Oʻzbekcha / ўзбекча" data-language-local-name="Uzbek" class="interlanguage-link-target">Oʻzbekcha / ўзбекча</a></li> <li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-pfl mw-list-item"><a href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://pfl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Technik" title="Wikipedia:Technik – Palatine German" lang="pfl" hreflang="pfl" data-title="Wikipedia:Technik" data-language-autonym="Pälzisch" data-language-local-name="Palatine German" class="interlanguage-link-target">Pälzisch</a></li> <li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-blk mw-list-item"><a href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://blk.wikipedia.org/wiki/%25E1%2580%259D%25E1%2580%25AE%25E1%2580%2581%25E1%2580%25AE%25E1%2580%2595%25E1%2580%25AE%25E1%2580%25B8%25E1%2580%2592%25E1%2580%25AE%25E1%2580%25B8%25E1%2580%259A%25E1%2580%25AC%25E1%2580%25B8:Village_pump_(%25E1%2580%25A1%25E1%2580%2594%25E1%2580%259A%25E1%2580%25BA%25EA%25A9%25BB%25E1%2580%2595%25E1%2580%258A%25E1%2580%25AC%25E1%2582%258F)" title="ဝီခီပီးဒီးယား:Village pump (အနယ်ꩻပညာႏ) – Pa'O" lang="blk" hreflang="blk" data-title="ဝီခီပီးဒီးယား:Village pump (အနယ်ꩻပညာႏ)" data-language-autonym="ပအိုဝ်ႏဘာႏသာႏ" data-language-local-name="Pa'O" class="interlanguage-link-target">ပအိုဝ်ႏဘာႏသာႏ</a></li> <li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-ps mw-list-item"><a href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://ps.wikipedia.org/wiki/%25D9%2588%25D9%258A%25DA%25A9%25D9%258A%25D9%25BE%25DB%2590%25DA%2589%25D9%258A%25D8%25A7:%25D8%25A8%25D9%2586%25DA%2589%25D8%25A7%25D8%25B1%25DA%2581%25D8%25A7%25DB%258C/%25D8%25AA%25D8%25AE%25D9%2586%25D9%258A%25DA%25A9" title="ويکيپېډيا:بنډارځای/تخنيک – Pashto" lang="ps" hreflang="ps" data-title="ويکيپېډيا:بنډارځای/تخنيک" data-language-autonym="پښتو" data-language-local-name="Pashto" class="interlanguage-link-target">پښتو</a></li> <li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-nds mw-list-item"><a href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://nds.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Technik" title="Wikipedia:Technik – Low German" lang="nds" hreflang="nds" data-title="Wikipedia:Technik" data-language-autonym="Plattdüütsch" data-language-local-name="Low German" class="interlanguage-link-target">Plattdüütsch</a></li> <li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-pl mw-list-item"><a href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Kawiarenka/Kwestie_techniczne" title="Wikipedia:Kawiarenka/Kwestie techniczne – Polish" lang="pl" hreflang="pl" data-title="Wikipedia:Kawiarenka/Kwestie techniczne" data-language-autonym="Polski" data-language-local-name="Polish" class="interlanguage-link-target">Polski</a></li> <li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-pt mw-list-item"><a href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://pt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikip%25C3%25A9dia:Caf%25C3%25A9_dos_programadores" title="Wikipédia:Café dos programadores – Portuguese" lang="pt" hreflang="pt" data-title="Wikipédia:Café dos programadores" data-language-autonym="Português" data-language-local-name="Portuguese" class="interlanguage-link-target">Português</a></li> <li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-ksh mw-list-item"><a href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://ksh.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Technische_Krom" title="Wikipedia:Technische Krom – Colognian" lang="ksh" hreflang="ksh" data-title="Wikipedia:Technische Krom" data-language-autonym="Ripoarisch" data-language-local-name="Colognian" class="interlanguage-link-target">Ripoarisch</a></li> <li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-rm mw-list-item"><a href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://rm.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Novitads_da_tecnica" title="Wikipedia:Novitads da tecnica – Romansh" lang="rm" hreflang="rm" data-title="Wikipedia:Novitads da tecnica" data-language-autonym="Rumantsch" data-language-local-name="Romansh" class="interlanguage-link-target">Rumantsch</a></li> <li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-ru mw-list-item"><a href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%25D0%2592%25D0%25B8%25D0%25BA%25D0%25B8%25D0%25BF%25D0%25B5%25D0%25B4%25D0%25B8%25D1%258F:%25D0%25A4%25D0%25BE%25D1%2580%25D1%2583%25D0%25BC/%25D0%25A2%25D0%25B5%25D1%2585%25D0%25BD%25D0%25B8%25D1%2587%25D0%25B5%25D1%2581%25D0%25BA%25D0%25B8%25D0%25B9" title="Википедия:Форум/Технический – Russian" lang="ru" hreflang="ru" data-title="Википедия:Форум/Технический" data-language-autonym="Русский" data-language-local-name="Russian" class="interlanguage-link-target">Русский</a></li> <li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-sah mw-list-item"><a href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://sah.wikipedia.org/wiki/%25D0%2591%25D0%25B8%25D0%25BA%25D0%25B8%25D0%25BF%25D0%25B8%25D1%258D%25D0%25B4%25D1%258C%25D0%25B8%25D0%25B9%25D1%258D:%25D0%259A%25D1%258D%25D0%25BF%25D1%2581%25D1%258D%25D1%2582%25D1%258D%25D1%2580_%25D1%2581%25D0%25B8%25D1%2580/%25D0%25A2%25D0%25B5%25D1%2585%25D0%25BD%25D0%25B8%25D1%2587%25D0%25B5%25D1%2581%25D0%25BA%25D1%258D%25D0%25B9" title="Бикипиэдьийэ:Кэпсэтэр сир/Техническэй – Yakut" lang="sah" hreflang="sah" data-title="Бикипиэдьийэ:Кэпсэтэр сир/Техническэй" data-language-autonym="Саха тыла" data-language-local-name="Yakut" class="interlanguage-link-target">Саха тыла</a></li> <li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-sa mw-list-item"><a href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://sa.wikipedia.org/wiki/%25E0%25A4%25B5%25E0%25A4%25BF%25E0%25A4%2595%25E0%25A4%25BF%25E0%25A4%25AA%25E0%25A5%2580%25E0%25A4%25A1%25E0%25A4%25BF%25E0%25A4%25AF%25E0%25A4%25BE:%25E0%25A4%25A4%25E0%25A4%25A8%25E0%25A5%258D%25E0%25A4%25A4%25E0%25A5%258D%25E0%25A4%25B0%25E0%25A4%25BE%25E0%25A4%2582%25E0%25A4%25B6%25E0%25A4%25B8%25E0%25A4%25AD%25E0%25A4%25BE" title="विकिपीडिया:तन्त्रांशसभा – Sanskrit" lang="sa" hreflang="sa" data-title="विकिपीडिया:तन्त्रांशसभा" data-language-autonym="संस्कृतम्" data-language-local-name="Sanskrit" class="interlanguage-link-target">संस्कृतम्</a></li> <li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-sq mw-list-item"><a href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://sq.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Hap%25C3%25ABsira_teknike" title="Wikipedia:Hapësira teknike – Albanian" lang="sq" hreflang="sq" data-title="Wikipedia:Hapësira teknike" data-language-autonym="Shqip" data-language-local-name="Albanian" class="interlanguage-link-target">Shqip</a></li> <li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-scn mw-list-item"><a href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://scn.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Malfunziunamenti" title="Wikipedia:Malfunziunamenti – Sicilian" lang="scn" hreflang="scn" data-title="Wikipedia:Malfunziunamenti" data-language-autonym="Sicilianu" data-language-local-name="Sicilian" class="interlanguage-link-target">Sicilianu</a></li> <li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-si mw-list-item"><a href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://si.wikipedia.org/wiki/%25E0%25B7%2580%25E0%25B7%2592%25E0%25B6%259A%25E0%25B7%2592%25E0%25B6%25B4%25E0%25B7%2593%25E0%25B6%25A9%25E0%25B7%2592%25E0%25B6%25BA%25E0%25B7%258F:%25E0%25B6%259A%25E0%25B7%259D%25E0%25B6%25B4%25E0%25B7%2592_%25E0%25B6%259A%25E0%25B6%25A9%25E0%25B7%259A_(%25E0%25B6%25AD%25E0%25B7%258F%25E0%25B6%259A%25E0%25B7%258A%25E0%25B7%2582%25E0%25B6%25AB%25E0%25B7%2592%25E0%25B6%259A)" title="විකිපීඩියා:කෝපි කඩේ (තාක්ෂණික) – Sinhala" lang="si" hreflang="si" data-title="විකිපීඩියා:කෝපි කඩේ (තාක්ෂණික)" data-language-autonym="සිංහල" data-language-local-name="Sinhala" class="interlanguage-link-target">සිංහල</a></li> <li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-sd mw-list-item"><a href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://sd.wikipedia.org/wiki/%25D9%2588%25DA%25AA%25D9%258A%25D9%25BE%25D9%258A%25DA%258A%25D9%258A%25D8%25A7:%25D8%25B5%25D9%2584%25D8%25A7%25D8%25AD_%25D9%2585%25D8%25B4%25D9%2588%25D8%25B1%25D9%2588/%25D9%25BD%25D9%258A%25DA%25AA%25D9%2586%25D9%258A%25DA%25AA%25D9%2584" title="وڪيپيڊيا:صلاح مشورو/ٽيڪنيڪل – Sindhi" lang="sd" hreflang="sd" data-title="وڪيپيڊيا:صلاح مشورو/ٽيڪنيڪل" data-language-autonym="سنڌي" data-language-local-name="Sindhi" class="interlanguage-link-target">سنڌي</a></li> <li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-sk mw-list-item"><a href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://sk.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikip%25C3%25A9dia:Kaviare%25C5%2588/Technick%25C3%25A9" title="Wikipédia:Kaviareň/Technické – Slovak" lang="sk" hreflang="sk" data-title="Wikipédia:Kaviareň/Technické" data-language-autonym="Slovenčina" data-language-local-name="Slovak" class="interlanguage-link-target">Slovenčina</a></li> <li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-szl mw-list-item"><a href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://szl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedyjo:Sztamtisz/Tech%25C5%2584iczne_kwestyje" title="Wikipedyjo:Sztamtisz/Techńiczne kwestyje – Silesian" lang="szl" hreflang="szl" data-title="Wikipedyjo:Sztamtisz/Techńiczne kwestyje" data-language-autonym="Ślůnski" data-language-local-name="Silesian" class="interlanguage-link-target">Ślůnski</a></li> <li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-so mw-list-item"><a href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://so.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Goob/Farsamo" title="Wikipedia:Goob/Farsamo – Somali" lang="so" hreflang="so" data-title="Wikipedia:Goob/Farsamo" data-language-autonym="Soomaaliga" data-language-local-name="Somali" class="interlanguage-link-target">Soomaaliga</a></li> <li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-ckb mw-list-item"><a href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://ckb.wikipedia.org/wiki/%25D9%2588%25DB%258C%25DA%25A9%25DB%258C%25D9%25BE%25DB%258C%25D8%25AF%25DB%258C%25D8%25A7:%25D8%25AF%25DB%258C%25D9%2588%25DB%2595%25D8%25AE%25D8%25A7%25D9%2586_(%25D8%25AA%25DB%2595%25DA%25A9%25D9%2586%25DB%258C%25DA%25A9%25DB%258C)" title="ویکیپیدیا:دیوەخان (تەکنیکی) – Central Kurdish" lang="ckb" hreflang="ckb" data-title="ویکیپیدیا:دیوەخان (تەکنیکی)" data-language-autonym="کوردی" data-language-local-name="Central Kurdish" class="interlanguage-link-target">کوردی</a></li> <li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-sr mw-list-item"><a href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://sr.wikipedia.org/wiki/%25D0%2592%25D0%25B8%25D0%25BA%25D0%25B8%25D0%25BF%25D0%25B5%25D0%25B4%25D0%25B8%25D1%2598%25D0%25B0:%25D0%25A2%25D1%2580%25D0%25B3/%25D0%25A2%25D0%25B5%25D1%2585%25D0%25BD%25D0%25B8%25D0%25BA%25D0%25B0" title="Википедија:Трг/Техника – Serbian" lang="sr" hreflang="sr" data-title="Википедија:Трг/Техника" data-language-autonym="Српски / srpski" data-language-local-name="Serbian" class="interlanguage-link-target">Српски / srpski</a></li> <li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-sh mw-list-item"><a href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://sh.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedija:Pijaca/Tehni%25C4%258Dka_pitanja" title="Wikipedija:Pijaca/Tehnička pitanja – Serbo-Croatian" lang="sh" hreflang="sh" data-title="Wikipedija:Pijaca/Tehnička pitanja" data-language-autonym="Srpskohrvatski / српскохрватски" data-language-local-name="Serbo-Croatian" class="interlanguage-link-target">Srpskohrvatski / српскохрватски</a></li> <li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-su mw-list-item"><a href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://su.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Sawala_(t%25C3%25A9knis)" title="Wikipedia:Sawala (téknis) – Sundanese" lang="su" hreflang="su" data-title="Wikipedia:Sawala (téknis)" data-language-autonym="Sunda" data-language-local-name="Sundanese" class="interlanguage-link-target">Sunda</a></li> <li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-fi mw-list-item"><a href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://fi.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Kahvihuone_(tekniikka)" title="Wikipedia:Kahvihuone (tekniikka) – Finnish" lang="fi" hreflang="fi" data-title="Wikipedia:Kahvihuone (tekniikka)" data-language-autonym="Suomi" data-language-local-name="Finnish" class="interlanguage-link-target">Suomi</a></li> <li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-ta mw-list-item"><a href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://ta.wikipedia.org/wiki/%25E0%25AE%25B5%25E0%25AE%25BF%25E0%25AE%2595%25E0%25AF%258D%25E0%25AE%2595%25E0%25AE%25BF%25E0%25AE%25AA%25E0%25AF%258D%25E0%25AE%25AA%25E0%25AF%2580%25E0%25AE%259F%25E0%25AE%25BF%25E0%25AE%25AF%25E0%25AE%25BE:%25E0%25AE%2586%25E0%25AE%25B2%25E0%25AE%25AE%25E0%25AE%25B0%25E0%25AE%25A4%25E0%25AF%258D%25E0%25AE%25A4%25E0%25AE%259F%25E0%25AE%25BF_(%25E0%25AE%25A4%25E0%25AF%258A%25E0%25AE%25B4%25E0%25AE%25BF%25E0%25AE%25A9%25E0%25AF%2581%25E0%25AE%259F%25E0%25AF%258D%25E0%25AE%25AA%25E0%25AE%25AE%25E0%25AF%258D)" title="விக்கிப்பீடியா:ஆலமரத்தடி (தொழினுட்பம்) – Tamil" lang="ta" hreflang="ta" data-title="விக்கிப்பீடியா:ஆலமரத்தடி (தொழினுட்பம்)" data-language-autonym="தமிழ்" data-language-local-name="Tamil" class="interlanguage-link-target">தமிழ்</a></li> <li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-tt mw-list-item"><a href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://tt.wikipedia.org/wiki/%25D0%2592%25D0%25B8%25D0%25BA%25D0%25B8%25D0%25BF%25D0%25B5%25D0%25B4%25D0%25B8%25D1%258F:%25D0%25A2%25D0%25B5%25D1%2585%25D0%25BD%25D0%25B8%25D0%25BA_%25D1%2584%25D0%25BE%25D1%2580%25D1%2583%25D0%25BC" title="Википедия:Техник форум – Tatar" lang="tt" hreflang="tt" data-title="Википедия:Техник форум" data-language-autonym="Татарча / tatarça" data-language-local-name="Tatar" class="interlanguage-link-target">Татарча / tatarça</a></li> <li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-shn mw-list-item"><a href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://shn.wikipedia.org/wiki/%25E1%2580%259D%25E1%2580%25AE%25E1%2582%2587%25E1%2581%25B6%25E1%2580%25AE%25E1%2582%2587%25E1%2581%25BD%25E1%2580%25AE%25E1%2580%25B8%25E1%2580%2590%25E1%2580%25AE%25E1%2580%25B8%25E1%2580%259A%25E1%2582%2583%25E1%2580%25B8:%25E1%2580%259C%25E1%2581%25A2%25E1%2581%25BC%25E1%2580%25BA%25E1%2582%2589%25E1%2581%25BC%25E1%2580%2599%25E1%2580%25BA%25E1%2582%2589%25E1%2581%25BC%25E1%2580%25B5%25E1%2580%2584%25E1%2580%25BA%25E1%2582%2588_(%25E1%2580%2595%25E1%2581%25A2%25E1%2582%2586%25E1%2580%25B8%25E1%2580%2591%25E1%2582%2585%25E1%2581%25B5%25E1%2580%25BA%25E1%2582%2589)" title="ဝီႇၶီႇၽီးတီးယႃး:လၢၼ်ႉၼမ်ႉၼဵင်ႈ (ပၢႆးထႅၵ်ႉ) – Shan" lang="shn" hreflang="shn" data-title="ဝီႇၶီႇၽီးတီးယႃး:လၢၼ်ႉၼမ်ႉၼဵင်ႈ (ပၢႆးထႅၵ်ႉ)" data-language-autonym="ၽႃႇသႃႇတႆး " data-language-local-name="Shan" class="interlanguage-link-target">ၽႃႇသႃႇတႆး </a></li> <li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-te mw-list-item"><a href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://te.wikipedia.org/wiki/%25E0%25B0%25B5%25E0%25B0%25BF%25E0%25B0%2595%25E0%25B1%2580%25E0%25B0%25AA%25E0%25B1%2580%25E0%25B0%25A1%25E0%25B0%25BF%25E0%25B0%25AF%25E0%25B0%25BE:%25E0%25B0%25B0%25E0%25B0%259A%25E0%25B1%258D%25E0%25B0%259A%25E0%25B0%25AC%25E0%25B0%2582%25E0%25B0%25A1_(%25E0%25B0%25B8%25E0%25B0%25BE%25E0%25B0%2582%25E0%25B0%2595%25E0%25B1%2587%25E0%25B0%25A4%25E0%25B0%25BF%25E0%25B0%2595%25E0%25B0%25AE%25E0%25B1%2581)" title="వికీపీడియా:రచ్చబండ (సాంకేతికము) – Telugu" lang="te" hreflang="te" data-title="వికీపీడియా:రచ్చబండ (సాంకేతికము)" data-language-autonym="తెలుగు" data-language-local-name="Telugu" class="interlanguage-link-target">తెలుగు</a></li> <li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-tg mw-list-item"><a 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