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Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. <a href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/2025/06" class="extiw" title="m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/2025/06">Translations</a> are available.</p> <p><b>Updates for editors</b></p> <ul> <li>Editors who use the "Special characters" editing-toolbar menu can now see the 32 special characters you have used most recently, across editing sessions on that wiki. This change should help make it easier to find the characters you use most often. The feature is in both the 2010 wikitext editor and VisualEditor. <a class="external autonumber" href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T110722">[1]</a></li> <li>Editors using the 2010 wikitext editor can now create sublists with correct indentation by selecting the line(s) you want to indent and then clicking the toolbar buttons.<a class="external autonumber" href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T380438">[2]</a> You can now also insert <code><code></code> tags using a new toolbar button.<a class="external autonumber" href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T383010">[3]</a> Thanks to user stjn for these improvements.</li> <li>Help is needed to ensure the <a href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Citoid/Enabling_Citoid_on_your_wiki" class="extiw" title="mw:Special:MyLanguage/Citoid/Enabling Citoid on your wiki">citation generator</a> works properly on each wiki. <ul> <li>(1) Administrators should update the local versions of the page <code dir="ltr">MediaWiki:Citoid-template-type-map.json</code> to include entries for <code dir="ltr">preprint</code>, <code dir="ltr">standard</code>, and <code dir="ltr">dataset</code>; Here are example diffs to replicate <a class="external text" href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title%3DMediaWiki%253ACitoid-template-type-map.json%26diff%3D1189164774%26oldid%3D1165783565">for 'preprint'</a> and <a class="external text" href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title%3DMediaWiki%253ACitoid-template-type-map.json%26diff%3D1270832208%26oldid%3D1270828390">for 'standard' and 'dataset'</a>.</li> <li>(2.1) If the citoid map in the citation template used for these types of references is missing, <a href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Citoid/Enabling_Citoid_on_your_wiki%23Step_2.a:_Create_a_'citoid'_maps_value_for_each_citation_template" class="extiw" title="mediawikiwiki:Citoid/Enabling Citoid on your wiki">one will need to be added</a>. 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days ago</a></span><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-commentCountLabel">1 comment</span><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-authorCountLabel">1 person in discussion</span> </div> <div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions">  </div> </div> </div> <section class="mf-section-5 collapsible-block" id="mf-section-5"> <table style="background: white; color: black; border:1px solid #6881b9; margin:0.5em; padding:0.5em;border-radius: 8px;"> <tbody> <tr> <th colspan="2" style="font-size:150%; padding: .4em;"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-MediaWiki_message_delivery-20250207014600-February_19:_WikiWednesday_Salon"></span>February 19: <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/Wikipedia:Meetup/NYC/February_2025?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="Wikipedia:Meetup/NYC/February 2025">WikiWednesday @ Prime Produce</a></th> </tr> <tr> <td style="padding-left: .6em;"> <figure class="mw-default-size mw-halign-right" typeof="mw:File/Thumb"> <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/File:Prime_Produce_2023_jeh.jpg?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" class="mw-file-description"> <noscript> <img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/5a/Prime_Produce_2023_jeh.jpg/220px-Prime_Produce_2023_jeh.jpg" decoding="async" width="220" height="165" class="mw-file-element" data-file-width="4000" data-file-height="3000"> </noscript><span class="lazy-image-placeholder" style="width: 220px;height: 165px;" data-mw-src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/5a/Prime_Produce_2023_jeh.jpg/220px-Prime_Produce_2023_jeh.jpg" data-width="220" data-height="165" data-srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/5a/Prime_Produce_2023_jeh.jpg/330px-Prime_Produce_2023_jeh.jpg 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/5a/Prime_Produce_2023_jeh.jpg/440px-Prime_Produce_2023_jeh.jpg 2x" data-class="mw-file-element"> </span></a> <figcaption> <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/Prime_Produce?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="Prime Produce">Prime Produce</a> on W 54th St </figcaption> </figure><p>WikiWednesday is back! You are invited to join the <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/Wikipedia:Meetup/NYC?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="Wikipedia:Meetup/NYC">Wikimedia NYC</a> community for our <b><a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/Wikipedia:Meetup/NYC/February_2025?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="Wikipedia:Meetup/NYC/February 2025">WikiWednesday Salon</a></b> at <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/Prime_Produce?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="Prime Produce">Prime Produce</a> in <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/Hell%27s_Kitchen,_Manhattan?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="Hell's Kitchen, Manhattan">Hell's Kitchen, Manhattan</a>, with an online-based participation option also available. No experience of anything at all is required. All are welcome!</p><p>All attendees are subject to Wikimedia NYC's <a href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_New_York_City/Code_of_Conduct" class="extiw" title="meta:Wikimedia New York City/Code of Conduct">Code of Conduct</a> and <a href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_New_York_City/Photography_policy" class="extiw" title="meta:Wikimedia New York City/Photography policy">Photography Policy</a>.</p><p>Meeting info:</p> <ul> <li>Wednesday, February 19 <b><a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/Wikipedia:Meetup/NYC/February_2025?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="Wikipedia:Meetup/NYC/February 2025">WikiWednesday @ Prime Produce</a> (<a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/Wikipedia:Meetup/NYC/February_2025?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB#Sign_up" title="Wikipedia:Meetup/NYC/February 2025">optional RSVP on-wiki</a>)</b>. <dl> <dd> <i>6:00 pm – 7:00 pm</i> (Open Hour) </dd> <dd> <i>7:00 pm – 9:00 pm</i> (Wiki Salon) </dd> <dd> (<a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/Prime_Produce?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="Prime Produce">Prime Produce</a>, <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/Hell%27s_Kitchen,_Manhattan?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="Hell's Kitchen, Manhattan">Hell's Kitchen, Manhattan</a>) </dd> <dd> Also online via <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://us02web.zoom.us/j/85212519478">Zoom</a> </dd> </dl></li> </ul></td> </tr> </tbody> </table> <p><small>(You can subscribe/unsubscribe from future notifications for NYC-area events by adding or removing your name from <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/Wikipedia:Meetup/NYC/Invite_list?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" 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title="Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/2025-02-07/Recent research">GPT-4 writes better edit summaries than human Wikipedians</a></li> </ul> <ul> <li>News and notes: <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2025-02-07/News_and_notes?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/2025-02-07/News and notes">Let's talk!</a></li> </ul> <ul> <li>Opinion: <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2025-02-07/Opinion?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/2025-02-07/Opinion">Fathoms Below, but over the moon</a></li> </ul> <ul> <li>In the media: <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2025-02-07/In_the_media?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/2025-02-07/In the media">Wikipedia is an extension of legacy media propaganda, says Elon Musk</a></li> </ul> <ul> 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Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. <a href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/2025/07" class="extiw" title="m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/2025/07">Translations</a> are available.</p> <p><b>Weekly highlight</b></p> <ul> <li>The Product and Technology Advisory Council (PTAC) has published <a href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Product_and_Technology_Advisory_Council/February_2025_draft_PTAC_recommendation_for_feedback" class="extiw" title="m:Special:MyLanguage/Product and Technology Advisory Council/February 2025 draft PTAC recommendation for feedback">a draft of their recommendations</a> for the Wikimedia Foundation's Product and Technology department. They have recommended focusing on <a href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Product_and_Technology_Advisory_Council/February_2025_draft_PTAC_recommendation_for_feedback/Mobile_experiences" class="extiw" title="m:Special:MyLanguage/Product and Technology Advisory Council/February 2025 draft PTAC recommendation for feedback/Mobile experiences">mobile experiences</a>, particularly contributions. They request community <a href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Product_and_Technology_Advisory_Council/February_2025_draft_PTAC_recommendation_for_feedback" class="extiw" title="m:Talk:Product and Technology Advisory Council/February 2025 draft PTAC recommendation for feedback">feedback at the talk page</a> by 21 February.</li> </ul> <p><b>Updates for editors</b></p> <ul> <li>The "Special pages" portlet link will be moved from the "Toolbox" into the "Navigation" section of the main menu's sidebar by default. This change is because the Toolbox is intended for tools relating to the current page, not tools relating to the site, so the link will be more logically and consistently located. To modify this behavior and update CSS styling, administrators can follow the instructions at <a href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T385346" class="extiw" title="phab:T385346">T385346</a>. <a class="external autonumber" href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T333211">[7]</a></li> <li>As part of this year's work around improving the ways readers discover content on the wikis, the Web team will be running an experiment with a small number of readers that displays some suggestions for related or interesting articles within the search bar. Please check out <a href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Reading/Web/Content_Discovery_Experiments%23Experiment_1:_Display_article_recommendations_in_more_prominent_locations,_search" class="extiw" title="mw:Special:MyLanguage/Reading/Web/Content Discovery Experiments">the project page</a> for more information.</li> <li><span class="skin-invert" typeof="mw:File"><span title="Advanced item"> <noscript> <img alt="Advanced item" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/d9/Octicons-tools.svg/12px-Octicons-tools.svg.png" decoding="async" width="12" height="12" class="mw-file-element" data-file-width="1024" data-file-height="1024"> </noscript><span class="lazy-image-placeholder" style="width: 12px;height: 12px;" data-mw-src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/d9/Octicons-tools.svg/12px-Octicons-tools.svg.png" data-alt="Advanced item" data-width="12" data-height="12" data-srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/d9/Octicons-tools.svg/18px-Octicons-tools.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/d9/Octicons-tools.svg/24px-Octicons-tools.svg.png 2x" data-class="mw-file-element"> </span></span></span> Template editors who use TemplateStyles can now customize output for users with specific accessibility needs by using accessibility related media queries (<code dir="ltr"><a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/CSS/@media/prefers-reduced-motion">prefers-reduced-motion</a></code>, <code dir="ltr"><a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/CSS/@media/prefers-reduced-transparency">prefers-reduced-transparency</a></code>, <code dir="ltr"><a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/CSS/@media/prefers-contrast">prefers-contrast</a></code>, and <code dir="ltr"><a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/CSS/@media/forced-colors">forced-colors</a></code>). Thanks to user Bawolff for these improvements. <a class="external autonumber" href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T384175">[8]</a></li> <li><span class="skin-invert" typeof="mw:File"><span title="Recurrent item"> <noscript> <img alt="Recurrent item" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/1a/Octicons-sync.svg/12px-Octicons-sync.svg.png" decoding="async" width="12" height="16" class="mw-file-element" data-file-width="768" data-file-height="1024"> </noscript><span class="lazy-image-placeholder" style="width: 12px;height: 16px;" data-mw-src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/1a/Octicons-sync.svg/12px-Octicons-sync.svg.png" data-alt="Recurrent item" data-width="12" data-height="16" data-srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/1a/Octicons-sync.svg/18px-Octicons-sync.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/1a/Octicons-sync.svg/24px-Octicons-sync.svg.png 2x" data-class="mw-file-element"> </span></span></span> View all 22 community-submitted tasks that were <a href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/Recently_resolved_community_tasks" class="extiw" title="m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/Recently resolved community tasks">resolved last week</a>. For example, the global blocks log will now be shown directly on the Special:CentralAuth page, similarly to global locks, to simplify the workflows for stewards. <a class="external autonumber" href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T377024">[9]</a></li> </ul> <p><b>Updates for technical contributors</b></p> <ul> <li>Wikidata <a href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Help:Default_values_for_labels_and_aliases" class="extiw" title="d:Special:MyLanguage/Help:Default values for labels and aliases">now supports a special language as a "default for all languages"</a> for labels and aliases. This is to avoid excessive duplication of the same information across many languages. If your Wikidata queries use labels, you may need to update them as some existing labels are getting removed. <a class="external autonumber" href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T312511">[10]</a></li> <li>The function <code dir="ltr">getDescription</code> was invoked on every Wiki page read and accounts for ~2.5% of a page's total load time. The calculated value will now be cached, reducing load on Wikimedia servers. <a class="external autonumber" href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T383660">[11]</a></li> <li>As part of the RESTBase deprecation <a href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/RESTBase/deprecation" class="extiw" title="mw:RESTBase/deprecation">effort</a>, the <code dir="ltr">/page/related</code> endpoint has been blocked as of February 6, 2025, and will be removed soon. This timeline was chosen to align with the deprecation schedules for older Android and iOS versions. The stable alternative is the "<code dir="ltr">morelike</code>" action API in MediaWiki, and <a href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/c/mediawiki/services/mobileapps/%252B/982154/13/pagelib/src/transform/FooterReadMore.js" class="extiw" title="gerrit:c/mediawiki/services/mobileapps/+/982154/13/pagelib/src/transform/FooterReadMore.js">a migration example</a> is available. The MediaWiki Interfaces team <a href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T376297" class="extiw" title="phab:T376297">can be contacted</a> for any questions. <a class="external autonumber" href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://lists.wikimedia.org/hyperkitty/list/wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org/thread/GFC2IJO7L4BWO3YTM7C5HF4MCCBE2RJ2/">[12]</a></li> </ul> <p><b>In depth</b></p> <ul> <li>The latest quarterly <a href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Wikimedia_Language_and_Product_Localization/Newsletter/2025/January" class="extiw" title="mw:Special:MyLanguage/Wikimedia Language and Product Localization/Newsletter/2025/January">Language and Internationalization newsletter</a> is available. It includes: Updates about the "Contribute" menu; details on some of the newest language editions of Wikipedia; details on new languages supported by the MediaWiki interface; updates on the Community-defined lists feature; and more.</li> <li>The latest <a href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Chart/Project/Updates%23January_2025:_Better_visibility_into_charts_and_tabular_data_usage" class="extiw" title="mw:Extension:Chart/Project/Updates">Chart Project newsletter</a> is available. 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Please check your email; you've got mail! The subject is 10 Fby 2025 14:59.<br><span class="plainlinks" style="font-size: 88%; font-weight: normal;">Message added 19:21, 12 February 2025 (UTC). It may take a few minutes from the time the email is sent for it to show up in your inbox. You can <span class="noprint plainlinks" title="Edit {{{1}}}"><a class="external text" href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title%3DUser_talk:RoySmith%26action%3Dedit">remove this notice</a></span> at any time by removing the <span class="nowrap">{{</span><a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/Template:You%27ve_got_mail?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="Template:You've got mail">You've got mail</a><span class="nowrap">}}</span> or <span class="nowrap">{{</span><a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/Template:Ygm?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" class="mw-redirect" title="Template:Ygm">ygm</a><span class="nowrap">}}</span> template.</span> </div> <p><a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/Special:Contributions/Serial_Number_54129?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="Special:Contributions/Serial Number 54129">Serial</a> <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User_talk:Serial_Number_54129?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" class="mw-redirect" title="User talk:Serial Number 54129">(speculates here)</a> <a href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:RoySmith%23c-Serial_Number_54129-20250212192100-You've_got_mail!" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:21, 12 February 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Serial_Number_54129-20250212192100-You've_got_mail!"><span id="ooui-php-7" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui="{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}"><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-icon-share oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reply</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Serial_Number_54129-20250212192100-You've_got_mail!"></span></p> <dl> <dd> <span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-RoySmith-20250212211700-Serial_Number_54129-20250212192100"></span>@<a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User:Serial_Number_54129?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" class="mw-redirect" title="User:Serial Number 54129">Serial Number 54129</a> Sadly, idngym. But I'm guessing it's about the FAC summarizing script problem I had, but it looks like that's all sorted by now, so all is cool. <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User:RoySmith?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User:RoySmith">RoySmith</a> <a class="mw-selflink selflink">(talk)</a> <a href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:RoySmith%23c-RoySmith-20250212211700-Serial_Number_54129-20250212192100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:17, 12 February 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-RoySmith-20250212211700-Serial_Number_54129-20250212192100"><span id="ooui-php-8" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui="{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}"><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-icon-share oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reply</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-RoySmith-20250212211700-Serial_Number_54129-20250212192100"></span> <dl> <dd> <span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Serial_Number_54129-20250212215600-RoySmith-20250212211700"></span>No, twas a source re Dolphins, but not the previous one, a different one <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/Special:Contributions/Serial_Number_54129?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="Special:Contributions/Serial Number 54129">Serial</a> <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User_talk:Serial_Number_54129?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" class="mw-redirect" title="User talk:Serial Number 54129">(speculates here)</a> <a href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:RoySmith%23c-Serial_Number_54129-20250212215600-RoySmith-20250212211700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:56, 12 February 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Serial_Number_54129-20250212215600-RoySmith-20250212211700"><span id="ooui-php-9" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui="{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}"><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-icon-share oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reply</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Serial_Number_54129-20250212215600-RoySmith-20250212211700"></span> <dl> <dd> <span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-RoySmith-20250212221800-Serial_Number_54129-20250212215600"></span>Ah. Well, the dolphin situation also seems to have resolved itself, so thank you for sending it, but no longer needed. Oh, that reminds me, I should probably go cancel my pending inter-library loan request. If the mail I didn't get was you sending me a PDF, that's probably why. Somewhere in the mess of software that delivers my mail, there's something which often decides that PDF attachments must be spam and nukes them into outer space. <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User:RoySmith?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User:RoySmith">RoySmith</a> <a class="mw-selflink selflink">(talk)</a> <a href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:RoySmith%23c-RoySmith-20250212221800-Serial_Number_54129-20250212215600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:18, 12 February 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-RoySmith-20250212221800-Serial_Number_54129-20250212215600"><span id="ooui-php-10" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" 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id="h-Better_understanding_notability-20250213060500"></span>Better understanding notability<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Better_understanding_notability-20250213060500"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"> <a role="button" href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/w/index.php?title=User_talk:RoySmith&action=edit&section=10&_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="Edit section: Better understanding notability" class="cdx-button cdx-button--size-large cdx-button--fake-button cdx-button--fake-button--enabled cdx-button--icon-only cdx-button--weight-quiet "> <span class="minerva-icon minerva-icon--edit"></span> <span>edit</span> </a> </span> <span id="ooui-php-24" class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-overflowMenuButton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui="{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonMenuSelectWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"ellipsis","data":{"itemConfigs":[{"id":"edit","data":{"id":"edit"},"icon":"edit","label":"Edit"}],"resourceLoaderModules":[]},"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-section-overflowMenuButton"]}"><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-icon-ellipsis"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label"></span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator"></span></a></span> <div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"> <div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-timestampLabel">Latest comment: <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User_talk:RoySmith?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB#c-Rollinginhisgrave-20250213155600-RoySmith-20250213145600">4 days ago</a></span><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-commentCountLabel">3 comments</span><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-authorCountLabel">2 people in discussion</span> </div> <div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions">  </div> </div> </div> <section class="mf-section-10 collapsible-block" id="mf-section-10"> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Rollinginhisgrave-20250213060500-Better_understanding_notability"></span>Hi Roy, I saw your comment <a class="external text" href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title%3DWikipedia:Peer_review/Victoria_Starmer/archive1%26diff%3Dprev%26oldid%3D1275416989">here</a> on <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/Victoria_Starmer?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="Victoria Starmer">Victoria Starmer</a>'s notability failing <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/Wikipedia:NOTINHERITED?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:NOTINHERITED">WP:NOTINHERITED</a>. I'm making an effort to better understand how notability works on Wikipedia (see <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User:Rollinginhisgrave/How_I_understand_notability?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User:Rollinginhisgrave/How I understand notability">here</a>). I understand you are somewhat of an expert at AfD and was hoping to ask for some clarification on your comment. You say <style data-mw-deduplicate="TemplateStyles:r1248585704">@media screen{html.skin-theme-clientpref-night .mw-parser-output .inline-quote-talk{color:#00B785}}@media screen and (prefers-color-scheme:dark){html.skin-theme-clientpref-os .mw-parser-output .inline-quote-talk{color:#00B785}}.mw-parser-output .inline-quote-talk{font-family:Georgia,"DejaVu Serif",serif;color:#008560;quotes:none}.mw-parser-output .inline-quote-talk-italic{font-family:inherit;font-style:italic}.mw-parser-output .inline-quote-talk-marks{quotes:"\"""\""}</style><q class="inline-quote-talk">"I honestly don't see how this person is notable... it sound[s] like interest in her is only due to who she's married to. See <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/Wikipedia:NOTINHERITED?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:NOTINHERITED">WP:NOTINHERITED</a>."</q> Clicking that link, the text opens with "Caution: This section is not a content guideline or policy." and continues with "Individuals in close, personal relationships with famous people (including politicians) can have an independent article even if they are known solely for such a relationship, but only if they pass WP:GNG."</p> <p>Looking quickly at coverage of her, it sure seems like she's received sustained, significant, independent coverage to my eyes, e.g. <a rel="nofollow" class="external autonumber" href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://www.telegraph.co.uk/women/politics/lady-starmer-reluctant-political-spouse-could-sir-keirs-secret/">[13]</a><a rel="nofollow" class="external autonumber" href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://www.tatler.com/article/all-hail-queen-vic-tatlers-february-cover-draws-back-the-curtain-on-the-court-of-lady-starmer">[14]</a><a rel="nofollow" class="external autonumber" href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://www.jpost.com/influencers-24/50jews-24/article-822710">[15]</a>. So, some questions:</p> <ul> <li>This is probably less coverage than other figures in her position. Is GNG assessed against the "genre" of an article (e.g. UK first ladies) rather than against a subjects own merits?</li> <li>Is this a BLP consideration, where even though she has received SIGCOV, her trying to retain privacy, and the news stories being kind of nosy and intrusive means they get less weight towards establishing notability?</li> <li>My understanding of merging when a subject meets GNG is that it's an editorial choice, and we kind of make a call about how information is best presented. In this case, we would be accepting that we are sacrificing some detail for the benefit of presenting it in context. The flipside of this judgement call is when a section gets bloated, we spin it out to a stand-alone article. Is that what's happening here, that she is notable, but notability is "not a guarantee that a topic will necessarily be handled as a separate, stand-alone page" and the information would be better presented in the context of Keir Starmer? Another merge consideration?</li> <li>The articles going towards GNG I link above are written because Victoria Starmer is the wife of the PM. If she wasn't, they wouldn't be written. They could therefore be understood as <i>actually</i> about Keir, which means they are not SIGCOV of Victoria Starmer but of her husband. This may be a very bad way of understanding it, but I feel like I've seen echoes of this in deletion discussions. It also seems at odds with the above quote from NOTINHERITED.</li> <li>Am I reading it wrong? Are these sources insufficient to demonstrate the GNG is met? (I am thinking they are based on an understanding from reading your <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/Wikipedia:THREE?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:THREE">WP:THREE</a> essay, which says "Three good sources is enough to convince anybody.")</li> </ul> <p>Apologies for writing a wall of text, I had more questions than I thought. Feel free to ignore. <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User:Rollinginhisgrave?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User:Rollinginhisgrave">Rollinginhisgrave</a> (<a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User_talk:Rollinginhisgrave?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User talk:Rollinginhisgrave">talk</a> | <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/Special:Contributions/Rollinginhisgrave?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="Special:Contributions/Rollinginhisgrave">contributions</a>) <a href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:RoySmith%23c-Rollinginhisgrave-20250213060500-Better_understanding_notability" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">06:05, 13 February 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Rollinginhisgrave-20250213060500-Better_understanding_notability"><span id="ooui-php-11" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui="{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}"><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-icon-share oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reply</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Rollinginhisgrave-20250213060500-Better_understanding_notability"></span></p> <dl> <dd> <span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-RoySmith-20250213145600-Rollinginhisgrave-20250213060500"></span>Hi, and thanks for your note. I'm not sure I would call myself an expert at AfD, and I've drifted away from that over the past few years, so whatever level of expertise I once had has gone somewhat stale. In any case, my view of things is that we're looking for what people have done, not who they're connected to. Everything I'm seeing says she's only getting media coverage because of her husband. Of the three sources you cite, it's much the same. "Victoria Starmer's support for her husband" is the lead in one. The other two describe her as a "political spouse". </dd> <dd> And as far as my <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/Wikipedia:THREE?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:THREE">WP:THREE</a> essay goes, you've missed the point entirely. Please read <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User:RoySmith/Three_best_sources/notes?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User:RoySmith/Three best sources/notes">User:RoySmith/Three best sources/notes</a>. <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User:RoySmith?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User:RoySmith">RoySmith</a> <a class="mw-selflink selflink">(talk)</a> <a href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:RoySmith%23c-RoySmith-20250213145600-Rollinginhisgrave-20250213060500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:56, 13 February 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-RoySmith-20250213145600-Rollinginhisgrave-20250213060500"><span id="ooui-php-12" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui="{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}"><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-icon-share oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reply</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-RoySmith-20250213145600-Rollinginhisgrave-20250213060500"></span> <dl> <dd> <span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Rollinginhisgrave-20250213155600-RoySmith-20250213145600"></span>Very appreciative for the response. I'm not quite sure how to square it with the second quote from NOTINHERITED, but it helps me get the temperature on community norms, and gives me some confidence as I'm currently making a version of the argument at the <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Mint_chocolate?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Mint chocolate">mint chocolate AFD</a>. I apologize for the THREE comment, I read the /notes page immediately after writing this out. Thankyou again. <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User:Rollinginhisgrave?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User:Rollinginhisgrave">Rollinginhisgrave</a> (<a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User_talk:Rollinginhisgrave?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User talk:Rollinginhisgrave">talk</a> | <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/Special:Contributions/Rollinginhisgrave?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="Special:Contributions/Rollinginhisgrave">contributions</a>) <a href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:RoySmith%23c-Rollinginhisgrave-20250213155600-RoySmith-20250213145600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:56, 13 February 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Rollinginhisgrave-20250213155600-RoySmith-20250213145600"><span id="ooui-php-13" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui="{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}"><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-icon-share oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reply</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Rollinginhisgrave-20250213155600-RoySmith-20250213145600"></span> </dd> </dl> </dd> </dl> </section> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section section-heading" onclick="mfTempOpenSection(11)"> <span class="indicator mf-icon mf-icon-expand mf-icon--small"></span> <h2 id="Tech_News:_2025-08" data-mw-thread-id="h-Tech_News:_2025-08-20250217211400"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Tech_News:_2025-08-20250217211400"></span>Tech News: 2025-08<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Tech_News:_2025-08-20250217211400"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"> <a role="button" href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/w/index.php?title=User_talk:RoySmith&action=edit&section=11&_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="Edit section: Tech News: 2025-08" class="cdx-button cdx-button--size-large cdx-button--fake-button cdx-button--fake-button--enabled cdx-button--icon-only cdx-button--weight-quiet "> <span class="minerva-icon minerva-icon--edit"></span> <span>edit</span> </a> </span> <span id="ooui-php-25" class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-overflowMenuButton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui="{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonMenuSelectWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"ellipsis","data":{"itemConfigs":[{"id":"edit","data":{"id":"edit"},"icon":"edit","label":"Edit"}],"resourceLoaderModules":[]},"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-section-overflowMenuButton"]}"><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-icon-ellipsis"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label"></span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator"></span></a></span> <div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"> <div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-timestampLabel">Latest comment: <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User_talk:RoySmith?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB#c-MediaWiki_message_delivery-20250217211400-Tech_News:_2025-08">2 hours ago</a></span><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-commentCountLabel">1 comment</span><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-authorCountLabel">1 person in discussion</span> </div> <div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions">  </div> </div> </div> <section class="mf-section-11 collapsible-block" id="mf-section-11"> <div class="plainlinks"> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-MediaWiki_message_delivery-20250217211400-Tech_News:_2025-08"></span>Latest <b><a href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News" class="extiw" title="m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News">tech news</a></b> from the Wikimedia technical community. 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