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<div id="bodyContent" class="vector-body" aria-labelledby="firstHeading" data-mw-ve-target-container> <div class="vector-body-before-content"> <div class="mw-indicators"> </div> <div id="siteSub" class="noprint">Allikas: Vikipeedia</div> </div> <div id="contentSub"><div id="mw-content-subtitle"></div></div> <div id="mw-content-text" class="mw-body-content"><div class="mw-content-ltr mw-parser-output" lang="et" dir="ltr"><p>Kas saab öelda "pealinn"? <a href="/wiki/Kasutaja:Andres" title="Kasutaja:Andres">Andres</a> 14. märts 2006, kell 13.15 (UTC) </p> <dl><dd>Muidugi saab. Näiteks Tallinn oli Eesti pealinn ka siis, kui ta kuulus NSVL koosseisu. --<a href="/wiki/Kasutaja:Lulu" title="Kasutaja:Lulu">Lulu</a> 14. märts 2006, kell 13.21 (UTC) <dl><dd>Pealinnast saab rääkida siis, kui tegemist on näiteks liiduvabariigi, autonoomse vabariigi, liidumaa või osariigiga. Aga <a href="/wiki/Kataloonia" title="Kataloonia">Kataloonia</a> ei ole ükski neist. <a href="/wiki/Kasutaja:Andres" title="Kasutaja:Andres">Andres</a> 14. märts 2006, kell 13.53 (UTC) <dl><dd>Need kõik on sellised üksused, mida saab mahutada mõiste "maa" alla. Hispaanias on nt Andaluusia, Galicia, Kataloonia kindlasti "maad". Nad jäävad alles ka siis, kui Hispaania näiteks peaks autonoomsed piirkonnad likvideerima. - <a href="/wiki/Kasutaja:Urmas" title="Kasutaja:Urmas">Urmas</a> 14. märts 2006, kell 15.11 (UTC) <dl><dd>Seega on tegemist Kataloonia kui maa pealinnaga? <a href="/wiki/Kasutaja:Andres" title="Kasutaja:Andres">Andres</a> 14. märts 2006, kell 15.19 (UTC)</dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd>Hispaania ei ole ju liitriik, või on? <a href="/wiki/Kasutaja:Andres" title="Kasutaja:Andres">Andres</a> 14. märts 2006, kell 15.22 (UTC)</dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd>Jah, Hispaania pole liitriik.<a href="/wiki/Kasutaja:Egon" title="Kasutaja:Egon">Egon</a> 14. märts 2006, kell 15.35 (UTC)</dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd>Kas kõigil autonoomsetel piirkondadel on pealinnad? <a href="/wiki/Kasutaja:Andres" title="Kasutaja:Andres">Andres</a> 14. märts 2006, kell 15.25 (UTC) <dl><dd>On küll.<a href="/wiki/Kasutaja:Egon" title="Kasutaja:Egon">Egon</a> 14. märts 2006, kell 15.35 (UTC)</dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd>Praegune artikkel <a href="/wiki/Pealinn" title="Pealinn">Pealinn</a> ei räägi midagi maa pealinnast. <a href="/wiki/Kasutaja:Andres" title="Kasutaja:Andres">Andres</a> 14. märts 2006, kell 15.20 (UTC)</dd> <dd>Peale selle, Kataloonia kui maa on vist suurem Katalooniast kui autonoomsest piirkonnast. <a href="/wiki/Kasutaja:Andres" title="Kasutaja:Andres">Andres</a> 14. märts 2006, kell 15.25 (UTC) <dl><dd>Kataloonia kui maa on suurem, kui Kataloonia AP. Ta on ka Prantsusmaal. Departemang <a href="/wiki/Pyr%C3%A9n%C3%A9es-Orientales" class="mw-redirect" title="Pyrénées-Orientales">Pyrénées-Orientales</a> on ka ajalooline katalaanide elupaik. <i>[pealinnaga <a href="/wiki/Perpignan" title="Perpignan">Perpignan</a> katalaani keeles Perpinyà]</i></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd>Ka artiklist <a href="/wiki/Maa" title="Maa">Maa</a> ei saa teada, mis see maa on. <a href="/wiki/Kasutaja:Andres" title="Kasutaja:Andres">Andres</a> 14. märts 2006, kell 15.22 (UTC) <dl><dd>Ma ei väitnud, et maal peab olema pealinn, vaid, et haldusüksuse, mida võib vaadelda eraldi maana, keskust saab nimetada pealinnaks.</dd> <dd>Hispaania haldusjaotus (1. järgu osas vähemalt) tugineb ajaloolistele maadele (mitte nii nagu on praegu prantslastel). - <a href="/wiki/Kasutaja:Urmas" title="Kasutaja:Urmas">Urmas</a> 14. märts 2006, kell 15.36 (UTC) <dl><dd>Hispaania 1978 aasta (kehtiv) konstitutsioon sätestab: "Hispaania on haldusjaotuslikult jagatud provintsideks. Provints on grupp munitsipaliteete, mis aitavad riigil ellu viia riiklikke toiminguid." Riigi muude seaduste kohaselt on 17 Autonoomset piirkonda moodustatud tuginedes provintsidele. Selle alusel on kahte tüüpi Autonoomseid piirkondi...<a href="/wiki/Kasutaja:Egon" title="Kasutaja:Egon">Egon</a> 14. märts 2006, kell 15.46 (UTC)</dd></dl></dd> <dd>Kui Sa pead silmas ajaloolist piirkonda, siis see hõlmab ka Põhja-Kataloonia, mis kuulub Prantsusmaale. <a href="/wiki/Kasutaja:Andres" title="Kasutaja:Andres">Andres</a> 14. märts 2006, kell 15.42 (UTC)</dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <hr/> <p>Vana elanike arv: elanikke = 1 593 000 (2005) <a href="/wiki/Kasutaja:Taivo" title="Kasutaja:Taivo">Taivo</a> 18. detsember 2009, kell 11:15 (UTC) </p> <!-- NewPP limit report Parsed by mw‐web.codfw.main‐f69cdc8f6‐x4q2f Cached time: 20241125033538 Cache expiry: 864000 Reduced expiry: true Complications: [] DiscussionTools time usage: 0.013 seconds CPU time usage: 0.024 seconds Real time usage: 0.039 seconds Preprocessor visited node count: 1/1000000 Post‐expand include size: 0/2097152 bytes Template argument size: 0/2097152 bytes Highest expansion depth: 1/100 Expensive parser function count: 0/500 Unstrip recursion depth: 0/20 Unstrip post‐expand size: 0/5000000 bytes Number of Wikibase entities loaded: 0/400 --> <!-- Transclusion expansion time report (%,ms,calls,template) 100.00% 0.000 1 -total --> <!-- Saved in parser cache with key etwiki:pcache:idhash:40451-0!canonical and timestamp 20241125033538 and revision id 1796650. 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