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hreflang="ang" data-title="Wikipǣdia:Se Þorpes Wella" data-language-autonym="Ænglisc" data-language-local-name="vanainglise" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>Ænglisc</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-ab mw-list-item"><a href="https://ab.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%90%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%BA%D0%B8%D0%BF%D0%B5%D0%B4%D0%B8%D0%B0:%D0%90%D1%84%D0%BE%D1%80%D1%83%D0%BC" title="Авикипедиа:Афорум – abhaasi" lang="ab" hreflang="ab" data-title="Авикипедиа:Афорум" data-language-autonym="Аԥсшәа" data-language-local-name="abhaasi" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>Аԥсшәа</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-ar mw-list-item"><a href="https://ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%88%D9%8A%D9%83%D9%8A%D8%A8%D9%8A%D8%AF%D9%8A%D8%A7:%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%85%D9%8A%D8%AF%D8%A7%D9%86" title="ويكيبيديا:الميدان – araabia" lang="ar" hreflang="ar" data-title="ويكيبيديا:الميدان" data-language-autonym="العربية" data-language-local-name="araabia" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>العربية</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-an mw-list-item"><a href="https://an.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Tabierna" title="Wikipedia:Tabierna – aragoni" lang="an" hreflang="an" data-title="Wikipedia:Tabierna" data-language-autonym="Aragonés" data-language-local-name="aragoni" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>Aragonés</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-arc mw-list-item"><a href="https://arc.wikipedia.org/wiki/%DC%98%DC%9D%DC%A9%DC%9D%DC%A6%DC%95%DC%9D%DC%90:%DC%AC%DC%AA%DC%A5%DC%90_%DC%95%DC%9F%DC%A2%DC%AB%DC%90" title="ܘܝܩܝܦܕܝܐ:ܬܪܥܐ ܕܟܢܫܐ – aramea" lang="arc" hreflang="arc" data-title="ܘܝܩܝܦܕܝܐ:ܬܪܥܐ ܕܟܢܫܐ" data-language-autonym="ܐܪܡܝܐ" data-language-local-name="aramea" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>ܐܪܡܝܐ</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-hyw mw-list-item"><a href="https://hyw.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D5%88%D6%82%D5%AB%D6%84%D5%AB%D6%83%D5%A5%D5%BF%D5%AB%D5%A1:%D4%B6%D6%80%D5%B8%D6%82%D6%81%D5%A1%D6%80%D5%A1%D5%B6" title="Ուիքիփետիա:Զրուցարան – läänearmeenia" lang="hyw" hreflang="hyw" data-title="Ուիքիփետիա:Զրուցարան" data-language-autonym="Արեւմտահայերէն" data-language-local-name="läänearmeenia" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>Արեւմտահայերէն</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-roa-rup mw-list-item"><a href="https://roa-rup.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Cafenea" title="Wikipedia:Cafenea – aromuuni" lang="rup" hreflang="rup" data-title="Wikipedia:Cafenea" data-language-autonym="Armãneashti" data-language-local-name="aromuuni" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>Armãneashti</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-frp mw-list-item"><a href="https://frp.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vouiquip%C3%A8dia:Lo_Cabar%C3%A8t_du_Vel%C3%A2jo" title="Vouiquipèdia:Lo Cabarèt du Velâjo – frankoprovansi" lang="frp" hreflang="frp" data-title="Vouiquipèdia:Lo Cabarèt du Velâjo" data-language-autonym="Arpetan" data-language-local-name="frankoprovansi" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>Arpetan</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-as mw-list-item"><a href="https://as.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E0%A7%B1%E0%A6%BF%E0%A6%95%E0%A6%BF%E0%A6%AA%E0%A6%BF%E0%A6%A1%E0%A6%BF%E0%A6%AF%E0%A6%BC%E0%A6%BE:%E0%A7%B0%E0%A6%BE%E0%A6%87%E0%A6%9C%E0%A7%B0_%E0%A6%9A%27%E0%A7%B0%E0%A6%BE" title="ৱিকিপিডিয়া:ৰাইজৰ চ'ৰা – assami" lang="as" hreflang="as" data-title="ৱিকিপিডিয়া:ৰাইজৰ চ'ৰা" data-language-autonym="অসমীয়া" data-language-local-name="assami" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>অসমীয়া</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-ast mw-list-item"><a href="https://ast.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Chigre" title="Wikipedia:Chigre – astuuria" lang="ast" hreflang="ast" data-title="Wikipedia:Chigre" data-language-autonym="Asturianu" data-language-local-name="astuuria" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>Asturianu</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-atj mw-list-item"><a href="https://atj.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipetcia:Waskapiwin" title="Wikipetcia:Waskapiwin – atikameki" lang="atj" hreflang="atj" data-title="Wikipetcia:Waskapiwin" data-language-autonym="Atikamekw" data-language-local-name="atikameki" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>Atikamekw</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-gn mw-list-item"><a href="https://gn.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vikipet%C3%A3_myangek%C3%B5i:Tekohapegua" title="Vikipetã myangekõi:Tekohapegua – guaranii" lang="gn" hreflang="gn" data-title="Vikipetã myangekõi:Tekohapegua" data-language-autonym="Avañe'ẽ" data-language-local-name="guaranii" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>Avañe'ẽ</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-ay mw-list-item"><a href="https://ay.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipidiya:Jayma_punku" title="Wikipidiya:Jayma punku – aimara" lang="ay" hreflang="ay" data-title="Wikipidiya:Jayma punku" data-language-autonym="Aymar aru" data-language-local-name="aimara" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>Aymar aru</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-azb mw-list-item"><a href="https://azb.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%88%DB%8C%DA%A9%DB%8C%E2%80%8C%D9%BE%D8%AF%DB%8C%D8%A7:%DA%A9%D9%86%D8%AF_%D9%85%D8%A6%DB%8C%D8%AF%D8%A7%D9%86%DB%8C" title="ویکی‌پدیا:کند مئیدانی – lõunaaserbaidžaani" lang="azb" hreflang="azb" data-title="ویکی‌پدیا:کند مئیدانی" data-language-autonym="تۆرکجه" data-language-local-name="lõunaaserbaidžaani" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>تۆرکجه</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-gor mw-list-item"><a href="https://gor.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Waro_lo_Kopi" title="Wikipedia:Waro lo Kopi – gorontalo" lang="gor" hreflang="gor" data-title="Wikipedia:Waro lo Kopi" data-language-autonym="Bahasa Hulontalo" data-language-local-name="gorontalo" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>Bahasa Hulontalo</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-id mw-list-item"><a href="https://id.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Warung_Kopi" title="Wikipedia:Warung Kopi – indoneesia" lang="id" hreflang="id" data-title="Wikipedia:Warung Kopi" data-language-autonym="Bahasa Indonesia" data-language-local-name="indoneesia" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>Bahasa Indonesia</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-ms mw-list-item"><a href="https://ms.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Kedai_Kopi" title="Wikipedia:Kedai Kopi – malai" lang="ms" hreflang="ms" data-title="Wikipedia:Kedai Kopi" data-language-autonym="Bahasa Melayu" data-language-local-name="malai" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>Bahasa Melayu</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-ban mw-list-item"><a href="https://ban.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikip%C3%A9dia:Pasangkepan" title="Wikipédia:Pasangkepan – bali" lang="ban" hreflang="ban" data-title="Wikipédia:Pasangkepan" data-language-autonym="Basa Bali" data-language-local-name="bali" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>Basa Bali</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-bm mw-list-item"><a href="https://bm.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Le_lavoir" title="Wikipedia:Le lavoir – bambara" lang="bm" hreflang="bm" data-title="Wikipedia:Le lavoir" data-language-autonym="Bamanankan" data-language-local-name="bambara" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>Bamanankan</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-bn mw-list-item"><a href="https://bn.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E0%A6%89%E0%A6%87%E0%A6%95%E0%A6%BF%E0%A6%AA%E0%A6%BF%E0%A6%A1%E0%A6%BF%E0%A6%AF%E0%A6%BC%E0%A6%BE:%E0%A6%86%E0%A6%B2%E0%A7%8B%E0%A6%9A%E0%A6%A8%E0%A6%BE%E0%A6%B8%E0%A6%AD%E0%A6%BE" title="উইকিপিডিয়া:আলোচনাসভা – bengali" lang="bn" hreflang="bn" data-title="উইকিপিডিয়া:আলোচনাসভা" data-language-autonym="বাংলা" data-language-local-name="bengali" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>বাংলা</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-bjn mw-list-item"><a href="https://bjn.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipidia:Warung_Kupi" title="Wikipidia:Warung Kupi – bandžari" lang="bjn" hreflang="bjn" data-title="Wikipidia:Warung Kupi" data-language-autonym="Banjar" data-language-local-name="bandžari" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>Banjar</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-zh-min-nan mw-list-item"><a href="https://zh-min-nan.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Chhi%C5%AB-%C3%A1-kha" title="Wikipedia:Chhiū-á-kha – lõunamini" lang="nan" hreflang="nan" data-title="Wikipedia:Chhiū-á-kha" data-language-autonym="閩南語 / Bân-lâm-gú" data-language-local-name="lõunamini" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>閩南語 / Bân-lâm-gú</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-map-bms mw-list-item"><a href="https://map-bms.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Dopokan" title="Wikipedia:Dopokan – Banyumasi murre" lang="jv-x-bms" hreflang="jv-x-bms" data-title="Wikipedia:Dopokan" data-language-autonym="Basa Banyumasan" data-language-local-name="Banyumasi murre" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>Basa Banyumasan</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-ba mw-list-item"><a href="https://ba.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%92%D0%B8%D0%BA%D0%B8%D0%BF%D0%B5%D0%B4%D0%B8%D1%8F:Bar" title="Википедия:Bar – baškiiri" lang="ba" hreflang="ba" data-title="Википедия:Bar" data-language-autonym="Башҡортса" data-language-local-name="baškiiri" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>Башҡортса</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-mad mw-list-item"><a href="https://mad.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikip%C3%A8%E1%B8%8Dia:B%C3%A2rung_Kopi" title="Wikipèḍia:Bârung Kopi – madura" lang="mad" hreflang="mad" data-title="Wikipèḍia:Bârung Kopi" data-language-autonym="Madhurâ" data-language-local-name="madura" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>Madhurâ</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-bh mw-list-item"><a href="https://bh.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E0%A4%B5%E0%A4%BF%E0%A4%95%E0%A4%BF%E0%A4%AA%E0%A5%80%E0%A4%A1%E0%A4%BF%E0%A4%AF%E0%A4%BE:%E0%A4%9A%E0%A5%8C%E0%A4%AA%E0%A4%BE%E0%A4%B2" title="विकिपीडिया:चौपाल – bihaari" lang="bh" hreflang="bh" data-title="विकिपीडिया:चौपाल" data-language-autonym="भोजपुरी" data-language-local-name="bihaari" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>भोजपुरी</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-bar mw-list-item"><a href="https://bar.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Stammdisch" title="Wikipedia:Stammdisch – baieri" lang="bar" hreflang="bar" data-title="Wikipedia:Stammdisch" data-language-autonym="Boarisch" data-language-local-name="baieri" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>Boarisch</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-bo mw-list-item"><a href="https://bo.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Village_pump" title="Wikipedia:Village pump – tiibeti" lang="bo" hreflang="bo" data-title="Wikipedia:Village pump" data-language-autonym="བོད་ཡིག" data-language-local-name="tiibeti" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>བོད་ཡིག</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-bs mw-list-item"><a href="https://bs.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:%C4%8Car%C5%A1ija" title="Wikipedia:Čaršija – bosnia" lang="bs" hreflang="bs" data-title="Wikipedia:Čaršija" data-language-autonym="Bosanski" data-language-local-name="bosnia" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>Bosanski</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-br mw-list-item"><a href="https://br.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Kumuniezh/An_davarn" title="Wikipedia:Kumuniezh/An davarn – bretooni" lang="br" hreflang="br" data-title="Wikipedia:Kumuniezh/An davarn" data-language-autonym="Brezhoneg" data-language-local-name="bretooni" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>Brezhoneg</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-bug mw-list-item"><a href="https://bug.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Warung_Kopi" title="Wikipedia:Warung Kopi – bugi" lang="bug" hreflang="bug" data-title="Wikipedia:Warung Kopi" data-language-autonym="Basa Ugi" data-language-local-name="bugi" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>Basa Ugi</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-bg mw-list-item"><a href="https://bg.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%A3%D0%B8%D0%BA%D0%B8%D0%BF%D0%B5%D0%B4%D0%B8%D1%8F:%D0%A0%D0%B0%D0%B7%D0%B3%D0%BE%D0%B2%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%B8" title="Уикипедия:Разговори – bulgaaria" lang="bg" hreflang="bg" data-title="Уикипедия:Разговори" data-language-autonym="Български" data-language-local-name="bulgaaria" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>Български</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-ca mw-list-item"><a href="https://ca.wikipedia.org/wiki/Viquip%C3%A8dia:La_taverna" title="Viquipèdia:La taverna – katalaani" lang="ca" hreflang="ca" data-title="Viquipèdia:La taverna" data-language-autonym="Català" data-language-local-name="katalaani" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>Català</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-ceb mw-list-item"><a href="https://ceb.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Tubaan" title="Wikipedia:Tubaan – sebu" lang="ceb" hreflang="ceb" data-title="Wikipedia:Tubaan" data-language-autonym="Cebuano" data-language-local-name="sebu" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>Cebuano</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-cv mw-list-item"><a href="https://cv.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%92%D0%B8%D0%BA%D0%B8%D0%BF%D0%B5%D0%B4%D0%B8:%D0%9A%D0%B0%D0%BD%D0%B0%D1%88%D0%BB%D1%83" title="Википеди:Канашлу – tšuvaši" lang="cv" hreflang="cv" data-title="Википеди:Канашлу" data-language-autonym="Чӑвашла" data-language-local-name="tšuvaši" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>Чӑвашла</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-cs mw-list-item"><a href="https://cs.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedie:Pod_l%C3%ADpou" title="Wikipedie:Pod lípou – tšehhi" lang="cs" hreflang="cs" data-title="Wikipedie:Pod lípou" data-language-autonym="Čeština" data-language-local-name="tšehhi" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>Čeština</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-cbk-zam mw-list-item"><a href="https://cbk-zam.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Tambayan_De_Los_Chavacanos" title="Wikipedia:Tambayan De Los Chavacanos – Zamboanga tšavakano" lang="cbk" hreflang="cbk" data-title="Wikipedia:Tambayan De Los Chavacanos" data-language-autonym="Chavacano de Zamboanga" data-language-local-name="Zamboanga tšavakano" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>Chavacano de Zamboanga</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-ny badge-Q70893996 mw-list-item" title=""><a href="https://ny.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Community_Portal" title="Wikipedia:Community Portal – njandža" lang="ny" hreflang="ny" data-title="Wikipedia:Community Portal" data-language-autonym="Chi-Chewa" data-language-local-name="njandža" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>Chi-Chewa</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-sn mw-list-item"><a href="https://sn.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Community_Portal" title="Wikipedia:Community Portal – šona" lang="sn" hreflang="sn" data-title="Wikipedia:Community Portal" data-language-autonym="ChiShona" data-language-local-name="šona" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>ChiShona</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-tum badge-Q70893996 mw-list-item" title=""><a href="https://tum.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Community_Portal" title="Wikipedia:Community Portal – tumbuka" lang="tum" hreflang="tum" data-title="Wikipedia:Community Portal" data-language-autonym="ChiTumbuka" data-language-local-name="tumbuka" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>ChiTumbuka</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-co mw-list-item"><a href="https://co.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Purtone_di_a_cumunit%C3%A0" title="Wikipedia:Purtone di a cumunità – korsika" lang="co" hreflang="co" data-title="Wikipedia:Purtone di a cumunità" data-language-autonym="Corsu" data-language-local-name="korsika" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>Corsu</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-cy mw-list-item"><a href="https://cy.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wicipedia:Y_Caffi" title="Wicipedia:Y Caffi – kõmri" lang="cy" hreflang="cy" data-title="Wicipedia:Y Caffi" data-language-autonym="Cymraeg" data-language-local-name="kõmri" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>Cymraeg</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-dag mw-list-item"><a href="https://dag.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Mabiligu_dund%C9%94%C5%8B" title="Wikipedia:Mabiligu dundɔŋ – dagbani" lang="dag" hreflang="dag" data-title="Wikipedia:Mabiligu dundɔŋ" data-language-autonym="Dagbanli" data-language-local-name="dagbani" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>Dagbanli</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-da mw-list-item"><a href="https://da.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Landsbybr%C3%B8nden" title="Wikipedia:Landsbybrønden – taani" lang="da" hreflang="da" data-title="Wikipedia:Landsbybrønden" data-language-autonym="Dansk" data-language-local-name="taani" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>Dansk</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-ary mw-list-item"><a href="https://ary.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%88%D9%8A%D9%83%D9%8A%D9%BE%D9%8A%D8%AF%D9%8A%D8%A7:%D9%84%D8%A8%D8%B1%D9%84%D9%85%D8%A7%D9%86" title="ويكيپيديا:لبرلمان – Maroko araabia" lang="ary" hreflang="ary" data-title="ويكيپيديا:لبرلمان" data-language-autonym="الدارجة" data-language-local-name="Maroko araabia" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>الدارجة</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-se mw-list-item"><a href="https://se.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:G%C3%A1ffestohpu" title="Wikipedia:Gáffestohpu – põhjasaami" lang="se" hreflang="se" data-title="Wikipedia:Gáffestohpu" data-language-autonym="Davvisámegiella" data-language-local-name="põhjasaami" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>Davvisámegiella</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-pdc mw-list-item"><a href="https://pdc.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Gmeeschafts-Portal" title="Wikipedia:Gmeeschafts-Portal – Pennsylvania saksa" lang="pdc" hreflang="pdc" data-title="Wikipedia:Gmeeschafts-Portal" data-language-autonym="Deitsch" data-language-local-name="Pennsylvania saksa" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>Deitsch</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-de mw-list-item"><a href="https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Projektdiskussion" title="Wikipedia:Projektdiskussion – saksa" lang="de" hreflang="de" data-title="Wikipedia:Projektdiskussion" data-language-autonym="Deutsch" data-language-local-name="saksa" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>Deutsch</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-dv mw-list-item"><a href="https://dv.wikipedia.org/wiki/%DE%88%DE%A8%DE%86%DE%A8%DE%95%DE%A9%DE%91%DE%A8%DE%87%DE%A7:%DE%88%DE%A8%DE%8D%DE%AC%DE%96%DE%B0_%DE%95%DE%A6%DE%89%DE%B0%DE%95%DE%B0" title="ވިކިޕީޑިއާ:ވިލެޖް ޕަމްޕް – maldiivi" lang="dv" hreflang="dv" data-title="ވިކިޕީޑިއާ:ވިލެޖް ޕަމްޕް" data-language-autonym="ދިވެހިބަސް" data-language-local-name="maldiivi" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>ދިވެހިބަސް</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-nv mw-list-item"><a href="https://nv.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikiib%C3%AD%C3%ADdiiya:%C3%81%C5%82ah_n%C3%A1%CA%BC%C3%A1dleehdi" title="Wikiibíídiiya:Áłah náʼádleehdi – navaho" lang="nv" hreflang="nv" data-title="Wikiibíídiiya:Áłah náʼádleehdi" data-language-autonym="Diné bizaad" data-language-local-name="navaho" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>Diné bizaad</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-dsb mw-list-item"><a href="https://dsb.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedija:Portal" title="Wikipedija:Portal – alamsorbi" lang="dsb" hreflang="dsb" data-title="Wikipedija:Portal" data-language-autonym="Dolnoserbski" data-language-local-name="alamsorbi" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>Dolnoserbski</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-na mw-list-item"><a href="https://na.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Domaneab" title="Wikipedia:Domaneab – nauru" lang="na" hreflang="na" data-title="Wikipedia:Domaneab" data-language-autonym="Dorerin Naoero" data-language-local-name="nauru" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>Dorerin Naoero</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-dty mw-list-item"><a href="https://dty.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E0%A4%B5%E0%A4%BF%E0%A4%95%E0%A4%BF%E0%A4%AA%E0%A4%BF%E0%A4%A1%E0%A4%BF%E0%A4%AF%E0%A4%BE:%E0%A4%9A%E0%A5%8C%E0%A4%AA%E0%A4%BE%E0%A4%A4%E0%A5%8B" title="विकिपिडिया:चौपातो – Doteli" lang="dty" hreflang="dty" data-title="विकिपिडिया:चौपातो" data-language-autonym="डोटेली" data-language-local-name="Doteli" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>डोटेली</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-el mw-list-item"><a href="https://el.wikipedia.org/wiki/%CE%92%CE%B9%CE%BA%CE%B9%CF%80%CE%B1%CE%AF%CE%B4%CE%B5%CE%B9%CE%B1:%CE%91%CE%B3%CE%BF%CF%81%CE%AC" title="Βικιπαίδεια:Αγορά – kreeka" lang="el" hreflang="el" data-title="Βικιπαίδεια:Αγορά" data-language-autonym="Ελληνικά" data-language-local-name="kreeka" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>Ελληνικά</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-eml mw-list-item"><a href="https://eml.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Bar" title="Wikipedia:Bar – emiilia-romanja" lang="egl" hreflang="egl" data-title="Wikipedia:Bar" data-language-autonym="Emiliàn e rumagnòl" data-language-local-name="emiilia-romanja" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>Emiliàn e rumagnòl</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-en mw-list-item"><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Village_pump" title="Wikipedia:Village pump – inglise" lang="en" hreflang="en" data-title="Wikipedia:Village pump" data-language-autonym="English" data-language-local-name="inglise" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>English</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-es mw-list-item"><a href="https://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Caf%C3%A9" title="Wikipedia:Café – hispaania" lang="es" hreflang="es" data-title="Wikipedia:Café" data-language-autonym="Español" data-language-local-name="hispaania" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>Español</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-eo mw-list-item"><a href="https://eo.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vikipedio:Diskutejo" title="Vikipedio:Diskutejo – esperanto" lang="eo" hreflang="eo" data-title="Vikipedio:Diskutejo" data-language-autonym="Esperanto" data-language-local-name="esperanto" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>Esperanto</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-ext mw-list-item"><a href="https://ext.wikipedia.org/wiki/G%C3%BCiquipedia:El_Seranu" title="Güiquipedia:El Seranu – estremenju" lang="ext" hreflang="ext" data-title="Güiquipedia:El Seranu" data-language-autonym="Estremeñu" data-language-local-name="estremenju" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>Estremeñu</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-eu mw-list-item"><a href="https://eu.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Txokoa" title="Wikipedia:Txokoa – baski" lang="eu" hreflang="eu" data-title="Wikipedia:Txokoa" data-language-autonym="Euskara" data-language-local-name="baski" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>Euskara</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-fa mw-list-item"><a href="https://fa.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%88%DB%8C%DA%A9%DB%8C%E2%80%8C%D9%BE%D8%AF%DB%8C%D8%A7:%D9%82%D9%87%D9%88%D9%87%E2%80%8C%D8%AE%D8%A7%D9%86%D9%87" title="ویکی‌پدیا:قهوه‌خانه – pärsia" lang="fa" hreflang="fa" data-title="ویکی‌پدیا:قهوه‌خانه" data-language-autonym="فارسی" data-language-local-name="pärsia" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>فارسی</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-hif mw-list-item"><a href="https://hif.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Samaj_Portal" title="Wikipedia:Samaj Portal – Fidži hindi" lang="hif" hreflang="hif" data-title="Wikipedia:Samaj Portal" data-language-autonym="Fiji Hindi" data-language-local-name="Fidži hindi" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>Fiji Hindi</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-fo mw-list-item"><a href="https://fo.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Undirh%C3%BAsi%C3%B0" title="Wikipedia:Undirhúsið – fääri" lang="fo" hreflang="fo" data-title="Wikipedia:Undirhúsið" data-language-autonym="Føroyskt" data-language-local-name="fääri" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>Føroyskt</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-fr mw-list-item"><a href="https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikip%C3%A9dia:Le_Bistro" title="Wikipédia:Le Bistro – prantsuse" lang="fr" hreflang="fr" data-title="Wikipédia:Le Bistro" data-language-autonym="Français" data-language-local-name="prantsuse" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>Français</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-fy mw-list-item"><a href="https://fy.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedy:Oerlisside" title="Wikipedy:Oerlisside – läänefriisi" lang="fy" hreflang="fy" data-title="Wikipedy:Oerlisside" data-language-autonym="Frysk" data-language-local-name="läänefriisi" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>Frysk</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-ff mw-list-item"><a href="https://ff.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Damugal_renndo" title="Wikipedia:Damugal renndo – fula" lang="ff" hreflang="ff" data-title="Wikipedia:Damugal renndo" data-language-autonym="Fulfulde" data-language-local-name="fula" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>Fulfulde</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-fur mw-list-item"><a href="https://fur.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vichipedie:Ostarie" title="Vichipedie:Ostarie – friuuli" lang="fur" hreflang="fur" data-title="Vichipedie:Ostarie" data-language-autonym="Furlan" data-language-local-name="friuuli" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>Furlan</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-ga mw-list-item"><a href="https://ga.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vicip%C3%A9id:Halla_baile" title="Vicipéid:Halla baile – iiri" lang="ga" hreflang="ga" data-title="Vicipéid:Halla baile" data-language-autonym="Gaeilge" data-language-local-name="iiri" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>Gaeilge</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-sm mw-list-item"><a href="https://sm.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Puso_o_le_%CA%BBa%CA%BBai" title="Wikipedia:Puso o le ʻaʻai – samoa" lang="sm" hreflang="sm" data-title="Wikipedia:Puso o le ʻaʻai" data-language-autonym="Gagana Samoa" data-language-local-name="samoa" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>Gagana Samoa</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-gd mw-list-item"><a href="https://gd.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uicipeid:Talla_a%27_Bhaile" title="Uicipeid:Talla a' Bhaile – gaeli" lang="gd" hreflang="gd" data-title="Uicipeid:Talla a' Bhaile" data-language-autonym="Gàidhlig" data-language-local-name="gaeli" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>Gàidhlig</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-gl mw-list-item"><a href="https://gl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:A_Taberna" title="Wikipedia:A Taberna – galeegi" lang="gl" hreflang="gl" data-title="Wikipedia:A Taberna" data-language-autonym="Galego" data-language-local-name="galeegi" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>Galego</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-gan mw-list-item"><a href="https://gan.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:%E5%BB%B3%E4%B8%8B" title="Wikipedia:廳下 – kani" lang="gan" hreflang="gan" data-title="Wikipedia:廳下" data-language-autonym="贛語" data-language-local-name="kani" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>贛語</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-ki mw-list-item"><a href="https://ki.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Community_Portal" title="Wikipedia:Community Portal – kikuju" lang="ki" hreflang="ki" data-title="Wikipedia:Community Portal" data-language-autonym="Gĩkũyũ" data-language-local-name="kikuju" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>Gĩkũyũ</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-glk mw-list-item"><a href="https://glk.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:%D9%82%D8%A3%D9%88%D9%87_%D8%AF%DB%8C%DA%A9%D8%A4%D9%86" title="Wikipedia:قأوه دیکؤن – gilaki" lang="glk" hreflang="glk" data-title="Wikipedia:قأوه دیکؤن" data-language-autonym="گیلکی" data-language-local-name="gilaki" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>گیلکی</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-gu mw-list-item"><a href="https://gu.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E0%AA%B5%E0%AA%BF%E0%AA%95%E0%AA%BF%E0%AA%AA%E0%AB%80%E0%AA%A1%E0%AA%BF%E0%AA%AF%E0%AA%BE:%E0%AA%9A%E0%AB%8B%E0%AA%A4%E0%AA%B0%E0%AB%8B" title="વિકિપીડિયા:ચોતરો – gudžarati" lang="gu" hreflang="gu" data-title="વિકિપીડિયા:ચોતરો" data-language-autonym="ગુજરાતી" data-language-local-name="gudžarati" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>ગુજરાતી</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-got mw-list-item"><a href="https://got.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:%F0%90%8C%B1%F0%90%8C%B0%F0%90%8C%BF%F0%90%8D%82%F0%90%8C%B2%F0%90%8D%83_%F0%90%8C%B2%F0%90%8C%B0%F0%90%8D%85%F0%90%8C%B9" title="Wikipedia:𐌱𐌰𐌿𐍂𐌲𐍃 𐌲𐌰𐍅𐌹 – gooti" lang="got" hreflang="got" data-title="Wikipedia:𐌱𐌰𐌿𐍂𐌲𐍃 𐌲𐌰𐍅𐌹" data-language-autonym="𐌲𐌿𐍄𐌹𐍃𐌺" data-language-local-name="gooti" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>𐌲𐌿𐍄𐌹𐍃𐌺</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-gom mw-list-item"><a href="https://gom.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E0%A4%B5%E0%A4%BF%E0%A4%95%E0%A4%BF%E0%A4%AA%E0%A5%80%E0%A4%A1%E0%A4%BF%E0%A4%AF%E0%A4%BE:Tintto" title="विकिपीडिया:Tintto – Goa konkani" lang="gom" hreflang="gom" data-title="विकिपीडिया:Tintto" data-language-autonym="गोंयची कोंकणी / Gõychi Konknni" data-language-local-name="Goa konkani" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>गोंयची कोंकणी / Gõychi Konknni</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-guw mw-list-item"><a href="https://guw.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:N%E1%BB%8Dt%E1%BA%B9n_int%E1%BA%B9n%E1%BA%B9t_l%E1%BA%B9do_m%E1%BA%B9_t%E1%BB%8Dn" title="Wikipedia:Nọtẹn intẹnẹt lẹdo mẹ tọn – Gun" lang="guw" hreflang="guw" data-title="Wikipedia:Nọtẹn intẹnẹt lẹdo mẹ tọn" data-language-autonym="Gungbe" data-language-local-name="Gun" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>Gungbe</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-hak mw-list-item"><a href="https://hak.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Th%C3%A2ng-h%C3%A2" title="Wikipedia:Thâng-hâ – hakka" lang="hak" hreflang="hak" data-title="Wikipedia:Thâng-hâ" data-language-autonym="客家語 / Hak-kâ-ngî" data-language-local-name="hakka" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>客家語 / Hak-kâ-ngî</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-ko mw-list-item"><a href="https://ko.wikipedia.org/wiki/%EC%9C%84%ED%82%A4%EB%B0%B1%EA%B3%BC:%EC%82%AC%EB%9E%91%EB%B0%A9" title="위키백과:사랑방 – korea" lang="ko" hreflang="ko" data-title="위키백과:사랑방" data-language-autonym="한국어" data-language-local-name="korea" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>한국어</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-haw mw-list-item"><a href="https://haw.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Ka_hui_kaiaulu" title="Wikipedia:Ka hui kaiaulu – havai" lang="haw" hreflang="haw" data-title="Wikipedia:Ka hui kaiaulu" data-language-autonym="Hawaiʻi" data-language-local-name="havai" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>Hawaiʻi</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-hy mw-list-item"><a href="https://hy.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D5%8E%D5%AB%D6%84%D5%AB%D5%BA%D5%A5%D5%A4%D5%AB%D5%A1:%D4%BD%D5%B8%D6%80%D5%B0%D6%80%D5%A4%D5%A1%D6%80%D5%A1%D5%B6" title="Վիքիպեդիա:Խորհրդարան – armeenia" lang="hy" hreflang="hy" data-title="Վիքիպեդիա:Խորհրդարան" data-language-autonym="Հայերեն" data-language-local-name="armeenia" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>Հայերեն</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-hi mw-list-item"><a href="https://hi.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E0%A4%B5%E0%A4%BF%E0%A4%95%E0%A4%BF%E0%A4%AA%E0%A5%80%E0%A4%A1%E0%A4%BF%E0%A4%AF%E0%A4%BE:%E0%A4%9A%E0%A5%8C%E0%A4%AA%E0%A4%BE%E0%A4%B2" title="विकिपीडिया:चौपाल – hindi" lang="hi" hreflang="hi" data-title="विकिपीडिया:चौपाल" data-language-autonym="हिन्दी" data-language-local-name="hindi" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>हिन्दी</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-hsb mw-list-item"><a href="https://hsb.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedija:Kor%C4%8Dma" title="Wikipedija:Korčma – ülemsorbi" lang="hsb" hreflang="hsb" data-title="Wikipedija:Korčma" data-language-autonym="Hornjoserbsce" data-language-local-name="ülemsorbi" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>Hornjoserbsce</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-hr mw-list-item"><a href="https://hr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedija:Kafi%C4%87" title="Wikipedija:Kafić – horvaadi" lang="hr" hreflang="hr" data-title="Wikipedija:Kafić" data-language-autonym="Hrvatski" data-language-local-name="horvaadi" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>Hrvatski</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-io mw-list-item"><a href="https://io.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedio:Generala_debato" title="Wikipedio:Generala debato – ido" lang="io" hreflang="io" data-title="Wikipedio:Generala debato" data-language-autonym="Ido" data-language-local-name="ido" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>Ido</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-ig mw-list-item"><a href="https://ig.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipidia:%E1%BB%A4%CC%80gb%C3%A0mmiri" title="Wikipidia:Ụ̀gbàmmiri – ibo" lang="ig" hreflang="ig" data-title="Wikipidia:Ụ̀gbàmmiri" data-language-autonym="Igbo" data-language-local-name="ibo" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>Igbo</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-ilo mw-list-item"><a href="https://ilo.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Dap-ayan" title="Wikipedia:Dap-ayan – iloko" lang="ilo" hreflang="ilo" data-title="Wikipedia:Dap-ayan" data-language-autonym="Ilokano" data-language-local-name="iloko" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>Ilokano</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-bpy mw-list-item"><a href="https://bpy.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E0%A6%89%E0%A6%87%E0%A6%95%E0%A6%BF%E0%A6%AA%E0%A6%BF%E0%A6%A1%E0%A6%BF%E0%A6%AF%E0%A6%BC%E0%A6%BE:%E0%A6%B6%E0%A6%BF%E0%A6%82%E0%A6%B2%E0%A7%81%E0%A6%AA" title="উইকিপিডিয়া:শিংলুপ – bišnuprija" lang="bpy" hreflang="bpy" data-title="উইকিপিডিয়া:শিংলুপ" data-language-autonym="বিষ্ণুপ্রিয়া মণিপুরী" data-language-local-name="bišnuprija" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>বিষ্ণুপ্রিয়া মণিপুরী</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-ia mw-list-item"><a href="https://ia.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Taverna" title="Wikipedia:Taverna – interlingua" lang="ia" hreflang="ia" data-title="Wikipedia:Taverna" data-language-autonym="Interlingua" data-language-local-name="interlingua" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>Interlingua</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-ie mw-list-item"><a href="https://ie.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Li_Trincatoria" title="Wikipedia:Li Trincatoria – interlingue" lang="ie" hreflang="ie" data-title="Wikipedia:Li Trincatoria" data-language-autonym="Interlingue" data-language-local-name="interlingue" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>Interlingue</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-iu mw-list-item"><a href="https://iu.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E1%90%85%E1%90%83%E1%91%AD%E1%90%B1%E1%91%8E%E1%90%8A:%E1%90%B9%E1%95%90%E1%93%82%E1%96%85" title="ᐅᐃᑭᐱᑎᐊ:ᐹᕐᓂᖅ – inuktituti" lang="iu" hreflang="iu" data-title="ᐅᐃᑭᐱᑎᐊ:ᐹᕐᓂᖅ" data-language-autonym="ᐃᓄᒃᑎᑐᑦ / inuktitut" data-language-local-name="inuktituti" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>ᐃᓄᒃᑎᑐᑦ / inuktitut</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-ik mw-list-item"><a href="https://ik.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Qargi" title="Wikipedia:Qargi – injupiaki" lang="ik" hreflang="ik" data-title="Wikipedia:Qargi" data-language-autonym="Iñupiatun" data-language-local-name="injupiaki" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>Iñupiatun</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-os mw-list-item"><a href="https://os.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%92%D0%B8%D0%BA%D0%B8%D0%BF%D0%B5%D0%B4%D0%B8:%D0%9D%D1%8B%D1%85%D0%B0%D1%81" title="Википеди:Ныхас – osseedi" lang="os" hreflang="os" data-title="Википеди:Ныхас" data-language-autonym="Ирон" data-language-local-name="osseedi" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>Ирон</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-zu mw-list-item"><a href="https://zu.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Umnyango_wamgwamanda" title="Wikipedia:Umnyango wamgwamanda – suulu" lang="zu" hreflang="zu" data-title="Wikipedia:Umnyango wamgwamanda" data-language-autonym="IsiZulu" data-language-local-name="suulu" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>IsiZulu</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-is mw-list-item"><a href="https://is.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Potturinn" title="Wikipedia:Potturinn – islandi" lang="is" hreflang="is" data-title="Wikipedia:Potturinn" data-language-autonym="Íslenska" data-language-local-name="islandi" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>Íslenska</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-it mw-list-item"><a href="https://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Bar" title="Wikipedia:Bar – itaalia" lang="it" hreflang="it" data-title="Wikipedia:Bar" data-language-autonym="Italiano" data-language-local-name="itaalia" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>Italiano</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-he mw-list-item"><a href="https://he.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D7%95%D7%99%D7%A7%D7%99%D7%A4%D7%93%D7%99%D7%94:%D7%9E%D7%96%D7%A0%D7%95%D7%9F" title="ויקיפדיה:מזנון – heebrea" lang="he" hreflang="he" data-title="ויקיפדיה:מזנון" data-language-autonym="עברית" data-language-local-name="heebrea" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>עברית</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-jv mw-list-item"><a href="https://jv.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikip%C3%A9dia:Angkringan" title="Wikipédia:Angkringan – jaava" lang="jv" hreflang="jv" data-title="Wikipédia:Angkringan" data-language-autonym="Jawa" data-language-local-name="jaava" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>Jawa</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-kl mw-list-item"><a href="https://kl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Katersortarfik" title="Wikipedia:Katersortarfik – grööni" lang="kl" hreflang="kl" data-title="Wikipedia:Katersortarfik" data-language-autonym="Kalaallisut" data-language-local-name="grööni" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>Kalaallisut</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-kn mw-list-item"><a href="https://kn.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E0%B2%B5%E0%B2%BF%E0%B2%95%E0%B2%BF%E0%B2%AA%E0%B3%80%E0%B2%A1%E0%B2%BF%E0%B2%AF:%E0%B2%85%E0%B2%B0%E0%B2%B3%E0%B2%BF_%E0%B2%95%E0%B2%9F%E0%B3%8D%E0%B2%9F%E0%B3%86" title="ವಿಕಿಪೀಡಿಯ:ಅರಳಿ ಕಟ್ಟೆ – kannada" lang="kn" hreflang="kn" data-title="ವಿಕಿಪೀಡಿಯ:ಅರಳಿ ಕಟ್ಟೆ" data-language-autonym="ಕನ್ನಡ" data-language-local-name="kannada" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>ಕನ್ನಡ</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-krc mw-list-item"><a href="https://krc.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%92%D0%B8%D0%BA%D0%B8%D0%BF%D0%B5%D0%B4%D0%B8%D1%8F:%D0%A4%D0%BE%D1%80%D1%83%D0%BC" title="Википедия:Форум – karatšai-balkaari" lang="krc" hreflang="krc" data-title="Википедия:Форум" data-language-autonym="Къарачай-малкъар" data-language-local-name="karatšai-balkaari" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>Къарачай-малкъар</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-ka mw-list-item"><a href="https://ka.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E1%83%95%E1%83%98%E1%83%99%E1%83%98%E1%83%9E%E1%83%94%E1%83%93%E1%83%98%E1%83%90:%E1%83%A4%E1%83%9D%E1%83%A0%E1%83%A3%E1%83%9B%E1%83%98" title="ვიკიპედია:ფორუმი – gruusia" lang="ka" hreflang="ka" data-title="ვიკიპედია:ფორუმი" data-language-autonym="ქართული" data-language-local-name="gruusia" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>ქართული</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-ks mw-list-item"><a href="https://ks.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%88%D9%90%DA%A9%DB%8C%D9%96%D9%BE%DB%8C%D9%96%DA%88%DB%8C%D8%A7:%DA%86%D9%88%DA%A9" title="وِکیٖپیٖڈیا:چوک – kašmiiri" lang="ks" hreflang="ks" data-title="وِکیٖپیٖڈیا:چوک" data-language-autonym="कॉशुर / کٲشُر" data-language-local-name="kašmiiri" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>कॉशुर / کٲشُر</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-csb mw-list-item"><a href="https://csb.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wiki:Karczma" title="Wiki:Karczma – kašuubi" lang="csb" hreflang="csb" data-title="Wiki:Karczma" data-language-autonym="Kaszëbsczi" data-language-local-name="kašuubi" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>Kaszëbsczi</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-kk mw-list-item"><a href="https://kk.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%A3%D0%B8%D0%BA%D0%B8%D0%BF%D0%B5%D0%B4%D0%B8%D1%8F:%D0%A4%D0%BE%D1%80%D1%83%D0%BC" title="Уикипедия:Форум – kasahhi" lang="kk" hreflang="kk" data-title="Уикипедия:Форум" data-language-autonym="Қазақша" data-language-local-name="kasahhi" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>Қазақша</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-kw mw-list-item"><a href="https://kw.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:An_tavern" title="Wikipedia:An tavern – korni" lang="kw" hreflang="kw" data-title="Wikipedia:An tavern" data-language-autonym="Kernowek" data-language-local-name="korni" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>Kernowek</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-ky mw-list-item"><a href="https://ky.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%92%D0%B8%D0%BA%D0%B8%D0%BF%D0%B5%D0%B4%D0%B8%D1%8F:%D0%96%D0%B0%D0%BC%D0%B0%D0%B0%D1%82_%D0%BF%D0%BE%D1%80%D1%82%D0%B0%D0%BB%D1%8B" title="Википедия:Жамаат порталы – kirgiisi" lang="ky" hreflang="ky" data-title="Википедия:Жамаат порталы" data-language-autonym="Кыргызча" data-language-local-name="kirgiisi" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>Кыргызча</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-rn mw-list-item"><a href="https://rn.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Community_Portal" title="Wikipedia:Community Portal – rundi" lang="rn" hreflang="rn" data-title="Wikipedia:Community Portal" data-language-autonym="Ikirundi" data-language-local-name="rundi" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>Ikirundi</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-sw mw-list-item"><a href="https://sw.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Jumuiya" title="Wikipedia:Jumuiya – suahiili" lang="sw" hreflang="sw" data-title="Wikipedia:Jumuiya" data-language-autonym="Kiswahili" data-language-local-name="suahiili" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>Kiswahili</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-ht mw-list-item"><a href="https://ht.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedya:Kafe" title="Wikipedya:Kafe – haiti" lang="ht" hreflang="ht" data-title="Wikipedya:Kafe" data-language-autonym="Kreyòl ayisyen" data-language-local-name="haiti" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>Kreyòl ayisyen</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-ku mw-list-item"><a href="https://ku.wikipedia.org/wiki/W%C3%AEk%C3%AEpediya:D%C3%AEwan" title="Wîkîpediya:Dîwan – kurdi" lang="ku" hreflang="ku" data-title="Wîkîpediya:Dîwan" data-language-autonym="Kurdî" data-language-local-name="kurdi" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>Kurdî</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-lld mw-list-item"><a href="https://lld.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Caf%C3%A9_ladin" title="Wikipedia:Café ladin – ladiini" lang="lld" hreflang="lld" data-title="Wikipedia:Café ladin" data-language-autonym="Ladin" data-language-local-name="ladiini" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>Ladin</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-lad mw-list-item"><a href="https://lad.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vikipedya:La_Kavan%C3%A9" title="Vikipedya:La Kavané – ladiino" lang="lad" hreflang="lad" data-title="Vikipedya:La Kavané" data-language-autonym="Ladino" data-language-local-name="ladiino" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>Ladino</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-lbe mw-list-item"><a href="https://lbe.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%92%D0%B8%D0%BA%D0%B8%D0%BF%D0%B5%D0%B4%D0%B8%D1%8F:%D0%A4%D0%BE%D1%80%D1%83%D0%BC" title="Википедия:Форум – laki" lang="lbe" hreflang="lbe" data-title="Википедия:Форум" data-language-autonym="Лакку" data-language-local-name="laki" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>Лакку</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-lo mw-list-item"><a href="https://lo.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E0%BA%A7%E0%BA%B4%E0%BA%81%E0%BA%B4%E0%BA%9E%E0%BA%B5%E0%BB%80%E0%BA%94%E0%BA%8D:%E0%BA%AA%E0%BA%B0%E0%BA%9E%E0%BA%B2%E0%BA%81%E0%BA%B2%E0%BB%81%E0%BA%9F" title="ວິກິພີເດຍ:ສະພາກາແຟ – lao" lang="lo" hreflang="lo" data-title="ວິກິພີເດຍ:ສະພາກາແຟ" data-language-autonym="ລາວ" data-language-local-name="lao" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>ລາວ</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-la mw-list-item"><a href="https://la.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vicipaedia:Taberna" title="Vicipaedia:Taberna – ladina" lang="la" hreflang="la" data-title="Vicipaedia:Taberna" data-language-autonym="Latina" data-language-local-name="ladina" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>Latina</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-ltg mw-list-item"><a href="https://ltg.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vikipedeja:D%C5%ABmu_meits" title="Vikipedeja:Dūmu meits – latgali" lang="ltg" hreflang="ltg" data-title="Vikipedeja:Dūmu meits" data-language-autonym="Latgaļu" data-language-local-name="latgali" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>Latgaļu</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-lv mw-list-item"><a href="https://lv.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vikip%C4%93dija:Kopienas_port%C4%81ls" title="Vikipēdija:Kopienas portāls – läti" lang="lv" hreflang="lv" data-title="Vikipēdija:Kopienas portāls" data-language-autonym="Latviešu" data-language-local-name="läti" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>Latviešu</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-lb mw-list-item"><a href="https://lb.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:De_Staminee" title="Wikipedia:De Staminee – letseburgi" lang="lb" hreflang="lb" data-title="Wikipedia:De Staminee" data-language-autonym="Lëtzebuergesch" data-language-local-name="letseburgi" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>Lëtzebuergesch</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-lez mw-list-item"><a href="https://lez.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%92%D0%B8%D0%BA%D0%B8%D0%BF%D0%B5%D0%B4%D0%B8%D1%8F:%D0%A4%D0%BE%D1%80%D1%83%D0%BC" title="Википедия:Форум – lesgi" lang="lez" hreflang="lez" data-title="Википедия:Форум" data-language-autonym="Лезги" data-language-local-name="lesgi" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>Лезги</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-lt mw-list-item"><a href="https://lt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vikipedija:Forumas" title="Vikipedija:Forumas – leedu" lang="lt" hreflang="lt" data-title="Vikipedija:Forumas" data-language-autonym="Lietuvių" data-language-local-name="leedu" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>Lietuvių</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-nia mw-list-item"><a href="https://nia.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Monganga_afo" title="Wikipedia:Monganga afo – niasi" lang="nia" hreflang="nia" data-title="Wikipedia:Monganga afo" data-language-autonym="Li Niha" data-language-local-name="niasi" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>Li Niha</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-li mw-list-item"><a href="https://li.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:De_kaffee" title="Wikipedia:De kaffee – limburgi" lang="li" hreflang="li" data-title="Wikipedia:De kaffee" data-language-autonym="Limburgs" data-language-local-name="limburgi" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>Limburgs</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-ln mw-list-item"><a href="https://ln.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:B%C3%ADs%C3%B3_na_b%C3%ADs%C3%B3" title="Wikipedia:Bísó na bísó – lingala" lang="ln" hreflang="ln" data-title="Wikipedia:Bísó na bísó" data-language-autonym="Lingála" data-language-local-name="lingala" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>Lingála</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-lfn mw-list-item"><a href="https://lfn.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vicipedia:Conversa_comunial" title="Vicipedia:Conversa comunial – Lingua Franca Nova" lang="lfn" hreflang="lfn" data-title="Vicipedia:Conversa comunial" data-language-autonym="Lingua Franca Nova" data-language-local-name="Lingua Franca Nova" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>Lingua Franca Nova</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-jbo mw-list-item"><a href="https://jbo.wikipedia.org/wiki/uikipedi%27as:bende_ckupau" title="uikipedi'as:bende ckupau – ložban" lang="jbo" hreflang="jbo" data-title="uikipedi'as:bende ckupau" data-language-autonym="La .lojban." data-language-local-name="ložban" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>La .lojban.</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-lg mw-list-item"><a href="https://lg.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Community_Portal" title="Wikipedia:Community Portal – ganda" lang="lg" hreflang="lg" data-title="Wikipedia:Community Portal" data-language-autonym="Luganda" data-language-local-name="ganda" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>Luganda</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-lmo mw-list-item"><a href="https://lmo.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Grot" title="Wikipedia:Grot – lombardi" lang="lmo" hreflang="lmo" data-title="Wikipedia:Grot" data-language-autonym="Lombard" data-language-local-name="lombardi" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>Lombard</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-hu mw-list-item"><a href="https://hu.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikip%C3%A9dia:Kocsmafal" title="Wikipédia:Kocsmafal – ungari" lang="hu" hreflang="hu" data-title="Wikipédia:Kocsmafal" data-language-autonym="Magyar" data-language-local-name="ungari" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>Magyar</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-mai mw-list-item"><a href="https://mai.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E0%A4%B5%E0%A4%BF%E0%A4%95%E0%A4%BF%E0%A4%AA%E0%A4%BF%E0%A4%A1%E0%A4%BF%E0%A4%AF%E0%A4%BE:%E0%A4%9A%E0%A4%AC%E0%A5%81%E0%A4%A4%E0%A4%B0%E0%A4%BE" title="विकिपिडिया:चबुतरा – maithili" lang="mai" hreflang="mai" data-title="विकिपिडिया:चबुतरा" data-language-autonym="मैथिली" data-language-local-name="maithili" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>मैथिली</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-mk mw-list-item"><a href="https://mk.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%92%D0%B8%D0%BA%D0%B8%D0%BF%D0%B5%D0%B4%D0%B8%D1%98%D0%B0:%D0%A1%D0%B5%D0%BB%D1%81%D0%BA%D0%B0_%D1%87%D0%B5%D1%88%D0%BC%D0%B0" title="Википедија:Селска чешма – makedoonia" lang="mk" hreflang="mk" data-title="Википедија:Селска чешма" data-language-autonym="Македонски" data-language-local-name="makedoonia" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>Македонски</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-mg mw-list-item"><a href="https://mg.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Dinika" title="Wikipedia:Dinika – malagassi" lang="mg" hreflang="mg" data-title="Wikipedia:Dinika" data-language-autonym="Malagasy" data-language-local-name="malagassi" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>Malagasy</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-ml mw-list-item"><a href="https://ml.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E0%B4%B5%E0%B4%BF%E0%B4%95%E0%B5%8D%E0%B4%95%E0%B4%BF%E0%B4%AA%E0%B5%80%E0%B4%A1%E0%B4%BF%E0%B4%AF:%E0%B4%AA%E0%B4%9E%E0%B5%8D%E0%B4%9A%E0%B4%BE%E0%B4%AF%E0%B4%A4%E0%B5%8D%E0%B4%A4%E0%B5%8D" title="വിക്കിപീഡിയ:പഞ്ചായത്ത് – malajalami" lang="ml" hreflang="ml" data-title="വിക്കിപീഡിയ:പഞ്ചായത്ത്" data-language-autonym="മലയാളം" data-language-local-name="malajalami" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>മലയാളം</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-mt mw-list-item"><a href="https://mt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedija:Pjazza" title="Wikipedija:Pjazza – malta" lang="mt" hreflang="mt" data-title="Wikipedija:Pjazza" data-language-autonym="Malti" data-language-local-name="malta" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>Malti</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-mi mw-list-item"><a href="https://mi.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:K%C5%8Drero" title="Wikipedia:Kōrero – maoori" lang="mi" hreflang="mi" data-title="Wikipedia:Kōrero" data-language-autonym="Māori" data-language-local-name="maoori" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>Māori</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-mr mw-list-item"><a href="https://mr.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E0%A4%B5%E0%A4%BF%E0%A4%95%E0%A4%BF%E0%A4%AA%E0%A5%80%E0%A4%A1%E0%A4%BF%E0%A4%AF%E0%A4%BE:%E0%A4%9A%E0%A4%BE%E0%A4%B5%E0%A4%A1%E0%A5%80/%E0%A4%AA%E0%A5%8D%E0%A4%B0%E0%A4%97%E0%A4%A4%E0%A5%80" title="विकिपीडिया:चावडी/प्रगती – marathi" lang="mr" hreflang="mr" data-title="विकिपीडिया:चावडी/प्रगती" data-language-autonym="मराठी" data-language-local-name="marathi" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>मराठी</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-arz mw-list-item"><a href="https://arz.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%88%D9%8A%D9%83%D9%8A%D8%A8%D9%8A%D8%AF%D9%8A%D8%A7:%D8%B5%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%88%D9%86_%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%85%D9%86%D8%A7%D9%82%D8%B4%D9%87" title="ويكيبيديا:صالون المناقشه – Egiptuse araabia" lang="arz" hreflang="arz" data-title="ويكيبيديا:صالون المناقشه" data-language-autonym="مصرى" data-language-local-name="Egiptuse araabia" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>مصرى</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-mzn mw-list-item"><a href="https://mzn.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%88%DB%8C%DA%A9%DB%8C%E2%80%8C%D9%BE%D8%AF%DB%8C%D8%A7:%DA%A9%D8%A7%D8%B1%D9%88%D8%B1%D9%88%D9%86_%D9%84%D9%88%D8%B4" title="ویکی‌پدیا:کارورون لوش – mazandaraani" lang="mzn" hreflang="mzn" data-title="ویکی‌پدیا:کارورون لوش" data-language-autonym="مازِرونی" data-language-local-name="mazandaraani" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>مازِرونی</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-mni mw-list-item"><a href="https://mni.wikipedia.org/wiki/%EA%AF%8B%EA%AF%A4%EA%AF%80%EA%AF%A4%EA%AF%84%EA%AF%A6%EA%AF%97%EA%AF%A4%EA%AF%8C%EA%AF%A5:%EA%AF%83%EA%AF%A4%EA%AF%8C%EA%AF%A5%EA%AF%9D%EA%AF%92%EA%AF%A4_%EA%AF%84%EA%AF%A8%EA%AF%9F%EA%AF%90%EA%AF%9D_%EA%AF%8C%EA%AF%A5%EA%AF%8E%EA%AF%90%EA%AF%9D" title="ꯋꯤꯀꯤꯄꯦꯗꯤꯌꯥ:ꯃꯤꯌꯥꯝꯒꯤ ꯄꯨꯟꯐꯝ ꯌꯥꯎꯐꯝ – manipuri" lang="mni" hreflang="mni" data-title="ꯋꯤꯀꯤꯄꯦꯗꯤꯌꯥ:ꯃꯤꯌꯥꯝꯒꯤ ꯄꯨꯟꯐꯝ ꯌꯥꯎꯐꯝ" data-language-autonym="ꯃꯤꯇꯩ ꯂꯣꯟ" data-language-local-name="manipuri" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>ꯃꯤꯇꯩ ꯂꯣꯟ</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-fat mw-list-item"><a href="https://fat.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Nyimpakuw_adzekorabea" title="Wikipedia:Nyimpakuw adzekorabea – fanti" lang="fat" hreflang="fat" data-title="Wikipedia:Nyimpakuw adzekorabea" data-language-autonym="Mfantse" data-language-local-name="fanti" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>Mfantse</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-min mw-list-item"><a href="https://min.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Kadai_Kopi" title="Wikipedia:Kadai Kopi – minangkabau" lang="min" hreflang="min" data-title="Wikipedia:Kadai Kopi" data-language-autonym="Minangkabau" data-language-local-name="minangkabau" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>Minangkabau</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-cdo mw-list-item"><a href="https://cdo.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:%E5%A4%A7%F0%A3%97%AC%E4%B8%8B" title="Wikipedia:大𣗬下 – idamini" lang="cdo" hreflang="cdo" data-title="Wikipedia:大𣗬下" data-language-autonym="閩東語 / Mìng-dĕ̤ng-ngṳ̄" data-language-local-name="idamini" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>閩東語 / Mìng-dĕ̤ng-ngṳ̄</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-mwl mw-list-item"><a href="https://mwl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biquip%C3%A9dia:Taberna" title="Biquipédia:Taberna – miranda" lang="mwl" hreflang="mwl" data-title="Biquipédia:Taberna" data-language-autonym="Mirandés" data-language-local-name="miranda" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>Mirandés</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-mn mw-list-item"><a href="https://mn.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%92%D0%B8%D0%BA%D0%B8%D0%BF%D0%B5%D0%B4%D0%B8%D0%B0:%D0%A5%D1%83%D1%80%D0%B0%D0%BB" title="Википедиа:Хурал – mongoli" lang="mn" hreflang="mn" data-title="Википедиа:Хурал" data-language-autonym="Монгол" data-language-local-name="mongoli" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>Монгол</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-my mw-list-item"><a href="https://my.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E1%80%9D%E1%80%AE%E1%80%80%E1%80%AE%E1%80%95%E1%80%AE%E1%80%B8%E1%80%92%E1%80%AE%E1%80%B8%E1%80%9A%E1%80%AC%E1%80%B8:%E1%80%9C%E1%80%80%E1%80%BA%E1%80%96%E1%80%80%E1%80%BA%E1%80%9B%E1%80%8A%E1%80%BA%E1%80%86%E1%80%AD%E1%80%AF%E1%80%84%E1%80%BA" title="ဝီကီပီးဒီးယား:လက်ဖက်ရည်ဆိုင် – birma" lang="my" hreflang="my" data-title="ဝီကီပီးဒီးယား:လက်ဖက်ရည်ဆိုင်" data-language-autonym="မြန်မာဘာသာ" data-language-local-name="birma" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>မြန်မာဘာသာ</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-nah mw-list-item"><a href="https://nah.wikipedia.org/wiki/Huiquipedia:Tlecuitl" title="Huiquipedia:Tlecuitl – nahua" lang="nah" hreflang="nah" data-title="Huiquipedia:Tlecuitl" data-language-autonym="Nāhuatl" data-language-local-name="nahua" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>Nāhuatl</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-nl mw-list-item"><a href="https://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:De_kroeg" title="Wikipedia:De kroeg – hollandi" lang="nl" hreflang="nl" data-title="Wikipedia:De kroeg" data-language-autonym="Nederlands" data-language-local-name="hollandi" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>Nederlands</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-nds-nl mw-list-item"><a href="https://nds-nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Praothoek" title="Wikipedia:Praothoek – Hollandi alamsaksa" lang="nds-NL" hreflang="nds-NL" data-title="Wikipedia:Praothoek" data-language-autonym="Nedersaksies" data-language-local-name="Hollandi alamsaksa" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>Nedersaksies</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-cr mw-list-item"><a href="https://cr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Community_Portal" title="Wikipedia:Community Portal – krii" lang="cr" hreflang="cr" data-title="Wikipedia:Community Portal" data-language-autonym="Nēhiyawēwin / ᓀᐦᐃᔭᐍᐏᐣ" data-language-local-name="krii" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>Nēhiyawēwin / ᓀᐦᐃᔭᐍᐏᐣ</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-ne mw-list-item"><a href="https://ne.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E0%A4%B5%E0%A4%BF%E0%A4%95%E0%A4%BF%E0%A4%AA%E0%A4%BF%E0%A4%A1%E0%A4%BF%E0%A4%AF%E0%A4%BE:%E0%A4%9A%E0%A5%8C%E0%A4%A4%E0%A4%BE%E0%A4%B0%E0%A5%80" title="विकिपिडिया:चौतारी – nepali" lang="ne" hreflang="ne" data-title="विकिपिडिया:चौतारी" data-language-autonym="नेपाली" data-language-local-name="nepali" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>नेपाली</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-ja mw-list-item"><a href="https://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:%E4%BA%95%E6%88%B8%E7%AB%AF" title="Wikipedia:井戸端 – jaapani" lang="ja" hreflang="ja" data-title="Wikipedia:井戸端" data-language-autonym="日本語" data-language-local-name="jaapani" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>日本語</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-nap mw-list-item"><a href="https://nap.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:C%C3%ACrculo" title="Wikipedia:Cìrculo – napoli" lang="nap" hreflang="nap" data-title="Wikipedia:Cìrculo" data-language-autonym="Napulitano" data-language-local-name="napoli" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>Napulitano</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-nqo mw-list-item"><a href="https://nqo.wikipedia.org/wiki/%DF%A5%DF%9E%DF%8C%DF%94%DF%98%DF%8B%DF%9E%DF%8E:%DF%93%DF%8F%DF%AC%DF%9F%DF%8F%DF%B2" title="ߥߞߌߔߘߋߞߎ:ߓߏ߬ߟߏ߲ – nkoo" lang="nqo" hreflang="nqo" data-title="ߥߞߌߔߘߋߞߎ:ߓߏ߬ߟߏ߲" data-language-autonym="ߒߞߏ" data-language-local-name="nkoo" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>ߒߞߏ</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-ce mw-list-item"><a href="https://ce.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%92%D0%B8%D0%BA%D0%B8%D0%BF%D0%B5%D0%B4%D0%B8:%D0%A4%D0%BE%D1%80%D1%83%D0%BC" title="Википеди:Форум – tšetšeeni" lang="ce" hreflang="ce" data-title="Википеди:Форум" data-language-autonym="Нохчийн" data-language-local-name="tšetšeeni" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>Нохчийн</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-frr mw-list-item"><a href="https://frr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Krouf" title="Wikipedia:Krouf – põhjafriisi" lang="frr" hreflang="frr" data-title="Wikipedia:Krouf" data-language-autonym="Nordfriisk" data-language-local-name="põhjafriisi" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>Nordfriisk</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-pih mw-list-item"><a href="https://pih.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Trii%27nohlij" title="Wikipedia:Trii'nohlij – norfuki" lang="pih" hreflang="pih" data-title="Wikipedia:Trii'nohlij" data-language-autonym="Norfuk / Pitkern" data-language-local-name="norfuki" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>Norfuk / Pitkern</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-no mw-list-item"><a href="https://no.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Tinget" title="Wikipedia:Tinget – norra bokmål" lang="nb" hreflang="nb" data-title="Wikipedia:Tinget" data-language-autonym="Norsk bokmål" data-language-local-name="norra bokmål" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>Norsk bokmål</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-nn mw-list-item"><a href="https://nn.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Samfunnshuset" title="Wikipedia:Samfunnshuset – uusnorra" lang="nn" hreflang="nn" data-title="Wikipedia:Samfunnshuset" data-language-autonym="Norsk nynorsk" data-language-local-name="uusnorra" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>Norsk nynorsk</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-nov mw-list-item"><a href="https://nov.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Li_komun_chambre" title="Wikipedia:Li komun chambre – noviaal" lang="nov" hreflang="nov" data-title="Wikipedia:Li komun chambre" data-language-autonym="Novial" data-language-local-name="noviaal" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>Novial</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-oc mw-list-item"><a href="https://oc.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikip%C3%A8dia:La_tav%C3%A8rna" title="Wikipèdia:La tavèrna – oksitaani" lang="oc" hreflang="oc" data-title="Wikipèdia:La tavèrna" data-language-autonym="Occitan" data-language-local-name="oksitaani" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>Occitan</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-or mw-list-item"><a href="https://or.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E0%AC%89%E0%AC%87%E0%AC%95%E0%AC%BF%E0%AC%AA%E0%AC%BF%E0%AC%A1%E0%AC%BC%E0%AC%BF%E0%AC%86:%E0%AC%86%E0%AC%B2%E0%AD%8B%E0%AC%9A%E0%AC%A8%E0%AC%BE_%E0%AC%B8%E0%AC%AD%E0%AC%BE" title="ଉଇକିପିଡ଼ିଆ:ଆଲୋଚନା ସଭା – oria" lang="or" hreflang="or" data-title="ଉଇକିପିଡ଼ିଆ:ଆଲୋଚନା ସଭା" data-language-autonym="ଓଡ଼ିଆ" data-language-local-name="oria" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>ଓଡ଼ିଆ</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-uz mw-list-item"><a href="https://uz.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vikipediya:Forum" title="Vikipediya:Forum – usbeki" lang="uz" hreflang="uz" data-title="Vikipediya:Forum" data-language-autonym="Oʻzbekcha / ўзбекча" data-language-local-name="usbeki" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>Oʻzbekcha / ўзбекча</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-pa mw-list-item"><a href="https://pa.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E0%A8%B5%E0%A8%BF%E0%A8%95%E0%A9%80%E0%A8%AA%E0%A9%80%E0%A8%A1%E0%A9%80%E0%A8%86:%E0%A8%B8%E0%A9%B1%E0%A8%A5" title="ਵਿਕੀਪੀਡੀਆ:ਸੱਥ – pandžabi" lang="pa" hreflang="pa" data-title="ਵਿਕੀਪੀਡੀਆ:ਸੱਥ" data-language-autonym="ਪੰਜਾਬੀ" data-language-local-name="pandžabi" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>ਪੰਜਾਬੀ</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-pi mw-list-item"><a href="https://pi.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E0%A4%AE%E0%A4%A8%E0%A5%8D%E0%A4%A4%E0%A4%A8_%E0%A4%A0%E0%A4%BE%E0%A4%A8_Mantana_%E1%B9%ADh%C4%81na" title="मन्तन ठान Mantana ṭhāna – paali" lang="pi" hreflang="pi" data-title="मन्तन ठान Mantana ṭhāna" data-language-autonym="पालि" data-language-local-name="paali" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>पालि</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-pfl mw-list-item"><a href="https://pfl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Schdammdisch" title="Wikipedia:Schdammdisch – Pfalzi" lang="pfl" hreflang="pfl" data-title="Wikipedia:Schdammdisch" data-language-autonym="Pälzisch" data-language-local-name="Pfalzi" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>Pälzisch</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-ps mw-list-item"><a href="https://ps.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%88%D9%8A%DA%A9%D9%8A%D9%BE%DB%90%DA%89%D9%8A%D8%A7:%D8%A8%D9%86%DA%89%D8%A7%D8%B1%DA%81%D8%A7%DB%8C" title="ويکيپېډيا:بنډارځای – puštu" lang="ps" hreflang="ps" data-title="ويکيپېډيا:بنډارځای" data-language-autonym="پښتو" data-language-local-name="puštu" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>پښتو</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-jam mw-list-item"><a href="https://jam.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipidia:Vilij_skwier" title="Wikipidia:Vilij skwier – Jamaica kreoolkeel" lang="jam" hreflang="jam" data-title="Wikipidia:Vilij skwier" data-language-autonym="Patois" data-language-local-name="Jamaica kreoolkeel" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>Patois</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-shn mw-list-item"><a href="https://shn.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E1%80%9D%E1%80%AE%E1%82%87%E1%81%B6%E1%80%AE%E1%82%87%E1%81%BD%E1%80%AE%E1%80%B8%E1%80%90%E1%80%AE%E1%80%B8%E1%80%9A%E1%82%83%E1%80%B8:%E1%80%9C%E1%81%A2%E1%81%BC%E1%80%BA%E1%82%89%E1%81%BC%E1%80%99%E1%80%BA%E1%82%89%E1%81%BC%E1%80%B5%E1%80%84%E1%80%BA%E1%82%88" title="ဝီႇၶီႇၽီးတီးယႃး:လၢၼ်ႉၼမ်ႉၼဵင်ႈ – šani" lang="shn" hreflang="shn" data-title="ဝီႇၶီႇၽီးတီးယႃး:လၢၼ်ႉၼမ်ႉၼဵင်ႈ" data-language-autonym="ၽႃႇသႃႇတႆး " data-language-local-name="šani" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>ၽႃႇသႃႇတႆး </span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-pcd mw-list-item"><a href="https://pcd.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Accueul_del_conminnit%C3%A9" title="Wikipedia:Accueul del conminnité – pikardi" lang="pcd" hreflang="pcd" data-title="Wikipedia:Accueul del conminnité" data-language-autonym="Picard" data-language-local-name="pikardi" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>Picard</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-pms mw-list-item"><a href="https://pms.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discussion_ant_sla_Wikipedia:Pi%C3%B2la" title="Discussion ant sla Wikipedia:Piòla – piemonte" lang="pms" hreflang="pms" data-title="Discussion ant sla Wikipedia:Piòla" data-language-autonym="Piemontèis" data-language-local-name="piemonte" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>Piemontèis</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-nds mw-list-item"><a href="https://nds.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Ik_bruuk_H%C3%BClp" title="Wikipedia:Ik bruuk Hülp – alamsaksa" lang="nds" hreflang="nds" data-title="Wikipedia:Ik bruuk Hülp" data-language-autonym="Plattdüütsch" data-language-local-name="alamsaksa" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>Plattdüütsch</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-pl mw-list-item"><a href="https://pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Kawiarenka_pod_Weso%C5%82ym_Encyklopedyst%C4%85" title="Wikipedia:Kawiarenka pod Wesołym Encyklopedystą – poola" lang="pl" hreflang="pl" data-title="Wikipedia:Kawiarenka pod Wesołym Encyklopedystą" data-language-autonym="Polski" data-language-local-name="poola" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>Polski</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-pnt mw-list-item"><a href="https://pnt.wikipedia.org/wiki/%CE%92%CE%B9%CE%BA%CE%B9%CF%80%CE%B1%CE%AF%CE%B4%CE%B5%CE%B9%CE%B1:%CE%91%CE%B3%CE%BF%CF%81%CE%AC" title="Βικιπαίδεια:Αγορά – pontose" lang="pnt" hreflang="pnt" data-title="Βικιπαίδεια:Αγορά" data-language-autonym="Ποντιακά" data-language-local-name="pontose" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>Ποντιακά</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-pt mw-list-item"><a href="https://pt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikip%C3%A9dia:Esplanada" title="Wikipédia:Esplanada – portugali" lang="pt" hreflang="pt" data-title="Wikipédia:Esplanada" data-language-autonym="Português" data-language-local-name="portugali" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>Português</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-kaa mw-list-item"><a href="https://kaa.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Forum" title="Wikipedia:Forum – karakalpaki" lang="kaa" hreflang="kaa" data-title="Wikipedia:Forum" data-language-autonym="Qaraqalpaqsha" data-language-local-name="karakalpaki" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>Qaraqalpaqsha</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-crh mw-list-item"><a href="https://crh.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vikipediya:Meydan" title="Vikipediya:Meydan – krimmitatari" lang="crh" hreflang="crh" data-title="Vikipediya:Meydan" data-language-autonym="Qırımtatarca" data-language-local-name="krimmitatari" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>Qırımtatarca</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-ksh mw-list-item"><a href="https://ksh.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_Klaaf:Op_dr_Eck" title="Wikipedia Klaaf:Op dr Eck – kölni" lang="ksh" hreflang="ksh" data-title="Wikipedia Klaaf:Op dr Eck" data-language-autonym="Ripoarisch" data-language-local-name="kölni" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>Ripoarisch</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-ro mw-list-item"><a href="https://ro.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Cafenea" title="Wikipedia:Cafenea – rumeenia" lang="ro" hreflang="ro" data-title="Wikipedia:Cafenea" data-language-autonym="Română" data-language-local-name="rumeenia" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>Română</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-rmy mw-list-item"><a href="https://rmy.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vikipidiya:Maladipnasko_than" title="Vikipidiya:Maladipnasko than – Valahhia mustlaskeel" lang="rmy" hreflang="rmy" data-title="Vikipidiya:Maladipnasko than" data-language-autonym="Romani čhib" data-language-local-name="Valahhia mustlaskeel" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>Romani čhib</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-rm mw-list-item"><a href="https://rm.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:La_pinta" title="Wikipedia:La pinta – romanši" lang="rm" hreflang="rm" data-title="Wikipedia:La pinta" data-language-autonym="Rumantsch" data-language-local-name="romanši" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>Rumantsch</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-rue mw-list-item"><a href="https://rue.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%92%D1%96%D0%BA%D1%96%D0%BF%D0%B5%D0%B4%D1%96%D1%8F:%D0%9F%D0%BE%D1%80%D1%82%D0%B0%D0%BB_%D0%BA%D0%BE%D0%BC%D1%83%D0%BD%D1%96%D1%82%D1%8B" title="Вікіпедія:Портал комуніты – russiini" lang="rue" hreflang="rue" data-title="Вікіпедія:Портал комуніты" data-language-autonym="Русиньскый" data-language-local-name="russiini" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>Русиньскый</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-ru mw-list-item"><a href="https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%92%D0%B8%D0%BA%D0%B8%D0%BF%D0%B5%D0%B4%D0%B8%D1%8F:%D0%A4%D0%BE%D1%80%D1%83%D0%BC" title="Википедия:Форум – vene" lang="ru" hreflang="ru" data-title="Википедия:Форум" data-language-autonym="Русский" data-language-local-name="vene" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>Русский</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-sah mw-list-item"><a href="https://sah.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%91%D0%B8%D0%BA%D0%B8%D0%BF%D0%B8%D1%8D%D0%B4%D1%8C%D0%B8%D0%B9%D1%8D:%D0%9A%D1%8D%D0%BF%D1%81%D1%8D%D1%82%D1%8D%D1%80_%D1%81%D0%B8%D1%80" title="Бикипиэдьийэ:Кэпсэтэр сир – jakuudi" lang="sah" hreflang="sah" data-title="Бикипиэдьийэ:Кэпсэтэр сир" data-language-autonym="Саха тыла" data-language-local-name="jakuudi" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>Саха тыла</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-szy mw-list-item"><a href="https://szy.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipitiya:katatengilan_tu_nasulitan" title="Wikipitiya:katatengilan tu nasulitan – Sakizaya" lang="szy" hreflang="szy" data-title="Wikipitiya:katatengilan tu nasulitan" data-language-autonym="Sakizaya" data-language-local-name="Sakizaya" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>Sakizaya</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-sa mw-list-item"><a href="https://sa.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E0%A4%B5%E0%A4%BF%E0%A4%95%E0%A4%BF%E0%A4%AA%E0%A5%80%E0%A4%A1%E0%A4%BF%E0%A4%AF%E0%A4%BE:%E0%A4%B5%E0%A4%BF%E0%A4%9A%E0%A4%BE%E0%A4%B0%E0%A4%B8%E0%A4%AD%E0%A4%BE" title="विकिपीडिया:विचारसभा – sanskriti" lang="sa" hreflang="sa" data-title="विकिपीडिया:विचारसभा" data-language-autonym="संस्कृतम्" data-language-local-name="sanskriti" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>संस्कृतम्</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-sg mw-list-item"><a href="https://sg.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Da_t%C3%AE_lisoro" title="Wikipedia:Da tî lisoro – sango" lang="sg" hreflang="sg" data-title="Wikipedia:Da tî lisoro" data-language-autonym="Sängö" data-language-local-name="sango" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>Sängö</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-skr mw-list-item"><a href="https://skr.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%88%DA%A9%DB%8C%D9%BE%DB%8C%DA%88%DB%8C%D8%A7:%D8%A8%D8%B1%D8%A7%D8%AF%D8%B1%DB%8C_%D8%AF%D8%A7_%D8%AF%DB%8C%D8%B1%DB%81" title="وکیپیڈیا:برادری دا دیرہ – seraiki" lang="skr" hreflang="skr" data-title="وکیپیڈیا:برادری دا دیرہ" data-language-autonym="سرائیکی" data-language-local-name="seraiki" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>سرائیکی</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-sc mw-list-item"><a href="https://sc.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Tzilleri" title="Wikipedia:Tzilleri – sardi" lang="sc" hreflang="sc" data-title="Wikipedia:Tzilleri" data-language-autonym="Sardu" data-language-local-name="sardi" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>Sardu</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-sco mw-list-item"><a href="https://sco.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Mercat_Cross" title="Wikipedia:Mercat Cross – šoti" lang="sco" hreflang="sco" data-title="Wikipedia:Mercat Cross" data-language-autonym="Scots" data-language-local-name="šoti" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>Scots</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-stq mw-list-item"><a href="https://stq.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Weerskup" title="Wikipedia:Weerskup – saterfriisi" lang="stq" hreflang="stq" data-title="Wikipedia:Weerskup" data-language-autonym="Seeltersk" data-language-local-name="saterfriisi" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>Seeltersk</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-st mw-list-item"><a href="https://st.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Potjho_e_kopano" title="Wikipedia:Potjho e kopano – lõunasotho" lang="st" hreflang="st" data-title="Wikipedia:Potjho e kopano" data-language-autonym="Sesotho" data-language-local-name="lõunasotho" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>Sesotho</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-sq mw-list-item"><a href="https://sq.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Kuvendi" title="Wikipedia:Kuvendi – albaania" lang="sq" hreflang="sq" data-title="Wikipedia:Kuvendi" data-language-autonym="Shqip" data-language-local-name="albaania" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>Shqip</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-scn mw-list-item"><a href="https://scn.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Circulu" title="Wikipedia:Circulu – sitsiilia" lang="scn" hreflang="scn" data-title="Wikipedia:Circulu" data-language-autonym="Sicilianu" data-language-local-name="sitsiilia" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>Sicilianu</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-si mw-list-item"><a href="https://si.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E0%B7%80%E0%B7%92%E0%B6%9A%E0%B7%92%E0%B6%B4%E0%B7%93%E0%B6%A9%E0%B7%92%E0%B6%BA%E0%B7%8F:%E0%B6%9A%E0%B7%9D%E0%B6%B4%E0%B7%92_%E0%B6%9A%E0%B6%A9%E0%B7%9A" title="විකිපීඩියා:කෝපි කඩේ – singali" lang="si" hreflang="si" data-title="විකිපීඩියා:කෝපි කඩේ" data-language-autonym="සිංහල" data-language-local-name="singali" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>සිංහල</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-simple mw-list-item"><a href="https://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Simple_talk" title="Wikipedia:Simple talk – lihtsustatud inglise" lang="en-simple" hreflang="en-simple" data-title="Wikipedia:Simple talk" data-language-autonym="Simple English" data-language-local-name="lihtsustatud inglise" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>Simple English</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-sd mw-list-item"><a href="https://sd.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%88%DA%AA%D9%8A%D9%BE%D9%8A%DA%8A%D9%8A%D8%A7:%D8%B5%D9%84%D8%A7%D8%AD_%D9%85%D8%B4%D9%88%D8%B1%D9%88" title="وڪيپيڊيا:صلاح مشورو – sindhi" lang="sd" hreflang="sd" data-title="وڪيپيڊيا:صلاح مشورو" data-language-autonym="سنڌي" data-language-local-name="sindhi" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>سنڌي</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-ss mw-list-item"><a href="https://ss.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Likhefi_leinthanethi" title="Wikipedia:Likhefi leinthanethi – svaasi" lang="ss" hreflang="ss" data-title="Wikipedia:Likhefi leinthanethi" data-language-autonym="SiSwati" data-language-local-name="svaasi" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>SiSwati</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-sk mw-list-item"><a href="https://sk.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikip%C3%A9dia:Kaviare%C5%88" title="Wikipédia:Kaviareň – slovaki" lang="sk" hreflang="sk" data-title="Wikipédia:Kaviareň" data-language-autonym="Slovenčina" data-language-local-name="slovaki" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>Slovenčina</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-sl mw-list-item"><a href="https://sl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedija:Pod_lipo" title="Wikipedija:Pod lipo – sloveeni" lang="sl" hreflang="sl" data-title="Wikipedija:Pod lipo" data-language-autonym="Slovenščina" data-language-local-name="sloveeni" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>Slovenščina</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-szl mw-list-item"><a href="https://szl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedyjo:Sztamtisz" title="Wikipedyjo:Sztamtisz – sileesia" lang="szl" hreflang="szl" data-title="Wikipedyjo:Sztamtisz" data-language-autonym="Ślůnski" data-language-local-name="sileesia" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>Ślůnski</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-so mw-list-item"><a href="https://so.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Goob" title="Wikipedia:Goob – somaali" lang="so" hreflang="so" data-title="Wikipedia:Goob" data-language-autonym="Soomaaliga" data-language-local-name="somaali" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>Soomaaliga</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-ckb mw-list-item"><a href="https://ckb.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%88%DB%8C%DA%A9%DB%8C%D9%BE%DB%8C%D8%AF%DB%8C%D8%A7:%D8%AF%DB%8C%D9%88%DB%95%D8%AE%D8%A7%D9%86" title="ویکیپیدیا:دیوەخان – sorani" lang="ckb" hreflang="ckb" data-title="ویکیپیدیا:دیوەخان" data-language-autonym="کوردی" data-language-local-name="sorani" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>کوردی</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-srn mw-list-item"><a href="https://srn.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Singi_nanga_Spoto_Uku" title="Wikipedia:Singi nanga Spoto Uku – sranani" lang="srn" hreflang="srn" data-title="Wikipedia:Singi nanga Spoto Uku" data-language-autonym="Sranantongo" data-language-local-name="sranani" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>Sranantongo</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-sr mw-list-item"><a href="https://sr.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%92%D0%B8%D0%BA%D0%B8%D0%BF%D0%B5%D0%B4%D0%B8%D1%98%D0%B0:%D0%A2%D1%80%D0%B3" title="Википедија:Трг – serbia" lang="sr" hreflang="sr" data-title="Википедија:Трг" data-language-autonym="Српски / srpski" data-language-local-name="serbia" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>Српски / srpski</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-sh mw-list-item"><a href="https://sh.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedija:Pijaca" title="Wikipedija:Pijaca – serbia-horvaadi" lang="sh" hreflang="sh" data-title="Wikipedija:Pijaca" data-language-autonym="Srpskohrvatski / српскохрватски" data-language-local-name="serbia-horvaadi" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>Srpskohrvatski / српскохрватски</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-su mw-list-item"><a href="https://su.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Sawala" title="Wikipedia:Sawala – sunda" lang="su" hreflang="su" data-title="Wikipedia:Sawala" data-language-autonym="Sunda" data-language-local-name="sunda" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>Sunda</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-fi mw-list-item"><a href="https://fi.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Kahvihuone" title="Wikipedia:Kahvihuone – soome" lang="fi" hreflang="fi" data-title="Wikipedia:Kahvihuone" data-language-autonym="Suomi" data-language-local-name="soome" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>Suomi</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-sv mw-list-item"><a href="https://sv.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Bybrunnen" title="Wikipedia:Bybrunnen – rootsi" lang="sv" hreflang="sv" data-title="Wikipedia:Bybrunnen" data-language-autonym="Svenska" data-language-local-name="rootsi" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>Svenska</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-shi mw-list-item"><a href="https://shi.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipidya:Anmuggar" title="Wikipidya:Anmuggar – šilha" lang="shi" hreflang="shi" data-title="Wikipidya:Anmuggar" data-language-autonym="Taclḥit" data-language-local-name="šilha" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>Taclḥit</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-tl mw-list-item"><a href="https://tl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Kapihan" title="Wikipedia:Kapihan – tagalogi" lang="tl" hreflang="tl" data-title="Wikipedia:Kapihan" data-language-autonym="Tagalog" data-language-local-name="tagalogi" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>Tagalog</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-ta mw-list-item"><a href="https://ta.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E0%AE%B5%E0%AE%BF%E0%AE%95%E0%AF%8D%E0%AE%95%E0%AE%BF%E0%AE%AA%E0%AF%8D%E0%AE%AA%E0%AF%80%E0%AE%9F%E0%AE%BF%E0%AE%AF%E0%AE%BE:%E0%AE%86%E0%AE%B2%E0%AE%AE%E0%AE%B0%E0%AE%A4%E0%AF%8D%E0%AE%A4%E0%AE%9F%E0%AE%BF" title="விக்கிப்பீடியா:ஆலமரத்தடி – tamili" lang="ta" hreflang="ta" data-title="விக்கிப்பீடியா:ஆலமரத்தடி" data-language-autonym="தமிழ்" data-language-local-name="tamili" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>தமிழ்</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-kab mw-list-item"><a href="https://kab.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Tajma%C9%9Bt" title="Wikipedia:Tajmaɛt – kabiili" lang="kab" hreflang="kab" data-title="Wikipedia:Tajmaɛt" data-language-autonym="Taqbaylit" data-language-local-name="kabiili" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>Taqbaylit</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-tt mw-list-item"><a href="https://tt.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%92%D0%B8%D0%BA%D0%B8%D0%BF%D0%B5%D0%B4%D0%B8%D1%8F:%D0%A4%D0%BE%D1%80%D1%83%D0%BC" title="Википедия:Форум – tatari" lang="tt" hreflang="tt" data-title="Википедия:Форум" data-language-autonym="Татарча / tatarça" data-language-local-name="tatari" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>Татарча / tatarça</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-te mw-list-item"><a href="https://te.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E0%B0%B5%E0%B0%BF%E0%B0%95%E0%B1%80%E0%B0%AA%E0%B1%80%E0%B0%A1%E0%B0%BF%E0%B0%AF%E0%B0%BE:%E0%B0%B0%E0%B0%9A%E0%B1%8D%E0%B0%9A%E0%B0%AC%E0%B0%82%E0%B0%A1" title="వికీపీడియా:రచ్చబండ – telugu" lang="te" hreflang="te" data-title="వికీపీడియా:రచ్చబండ" data-language-autonym="తెలుగు" data-language-local-name="telugu" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>తెలుగు</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-tet mw-list-item"><a href="https://tet.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Kaf%C3%A9" title="Wikipedia:Kafé – tetumi" lang="tet" hreflang="tet" data-title="Wikipedia:Kafé" data-language-autonym="Tetun" data-language-local-name="tetumi" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>Tetun</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-din mw-list-item"><a href="https://din.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:T%C3%ABl%C9%94th%C3%AFn_wut" title="Wikipedia:Tëlɔthïn wut – dinka" lang="din" hreflang="din" data-title="Wikipedia:Tëlɔthïn wut" data-language-autonym="Thuɔŋjäŋ" data-language-local-name="dinka" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>Thuɔŋjäŋ</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-th mw-list-item"><a href="https://th.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E0%B8%A7%E0%B8%B4%E0%B8%81%E0%B8%B4%E0%B8%9E%E0%B8%B5%E0%B9%80%E0%B8%94%E0%B8%B5%E0%B8%A2:%E0%B8%AA%E0%B8%A0%E0%B8%B2%E0%B8%81%E0%B8%B2%E0%B9%81%E0%B8%9F" title="วิกิพีเดีย:สภากาแฟ – tai" lang="th" hreflang="th" data-title="วิกิพีเดีย:สภากาแฟ" data-language-autonym="ไทย" data-language-local-name="tai" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>ไทย</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-vi mw-list-item"><a href="https://vi.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Th%E1%BA%A3o_lu%E1%BA%ADn" title="Wikipedia:Thảo luận – vietnami" lang="vi" hreflang="vi" data-title="Wikipedia:Thảo luận" data-language-autonym="Tiếng Việt" data-language-local-name="vietnami" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>Tiếng Việt</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-tg mw-list-item"><a href="https://tg.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%92%D0%B8%D0%BA%D0%B8%D0%BF%D0%B5%D0%B4%D0%B8%D0%B0:%D2%9A%D0%B0%D2%B3%D0%B2%D0%B0%D1%85%D0%BE%D0%BD%D0%B0" title="Википедиа:Қаҳвахона – tadžiki" lang="tg" hreflang="tg" data-title="Википедиа:Қаҳвахона" data-language-autonym="Тоҷикӣ" data-language-local-name="tadžiki" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>Тоҷикӣ</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-chr mw-list-item"><a href="https://chr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:%E1%8E%BE%E1%8E%A5_%E1%8F%84%E1%8E%BE%E1%8F%93%E1%8E%B8_%E1%8E%BE%E1%8E%BF%E1%8E%A2" title="Wikipedia:ᎾᎥ ᏄᎾᏓᎸ ᎾᎿᎢ – tšerokii" lang="chr" hreflang="chr" data-title="Wikipedia:ᎾᎥ ᏄᎾᏓᎸ ᎾᎿᎢ" data-language-autonym="ᏣᎳᎩ" data-language-local-name="tšerokii" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>ᏣᎳᎩ</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-chy mw-list-item"><a href="https://chy.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Community_Portal" title="Wikipedia:Community Portal – šaieeni" lang="chy" hreflang="chy" data-title="Wikipedia:Community Portal" data-language-autonym="Tsetsêhestâhese" data-language-local-name="šaieeni" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>Tsetsêhestâhese</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-tcy mw-list-item"><a href="https://tcy.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E0%B2%B5%E0%B2%BF%E0%B2%95%E0%B2%BF%E0%B2%AA%E0%B3%80%E0%B2%A1%E0%B2%BF%E0%B2%AF:%E0%B2%9A%E0%B2%BE%E0%B2%B5%E0%B2%A1%E0%B2%BF" title="ವಿಕಿಪೀಡಿಯ:ಚಾವಡಿ – tulu" lang="tcy" hreflang="tcy" data-title="ವಿಕಿಪೀಡಿಯ:ಚಾವಡಿ" data-language-autonym="ತುಳು" data-language-local-name="tulu" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>ತುಳು</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-tr mw-list-item"><a href="https://tr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vikipedi:K%C3%B6y_%C3%A7e%C5%9Fmesi" title="Vikipedi:Köy çeşmesi – türgi" lang="tr" hreflang="tr" data-title="Vikipedi:Köy çeşmesi" data-language-autonym="Türkçe" data-language-local-name="türgi" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>Türkçe</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-tk mw-list-item"><a href="https://tk.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedi%C3%BDa:%C3%87a%C3%BDhana" title="Wikipediýa:Çaýhana – türkmeeni" lang="tk" hreflang="tk" data-title="Wikipediýa:Çaýhana" data-language-autonym="Türkmençe" data-language-local-name="türkmeeni" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>Türkmençe</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-tw mw-list-item"><a href="https://tw.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Community_Portal" title="Wikipedia:Community Portal – tvii" lang="tw" hreflang="tw" data-title="Wikipedia:Community Portal" data-language-autonym="Twi" data-language-local-name="tvii" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>Twi</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-uk mw-list-item"><a href="https://uk.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%92%D1%96%D0%BA%D1%96%D0%BF%D0%B5%D0%B4%D1%96%D1%8F:%D0%9A%D0%BD%D0%B0%D0%B9%D0%BF%D0%B0" title="Вікіпедія:Кнайпа – ukraina" lang="uk" hreflang="uk" data-title="Вікіпедія:Кнайпа" data-language-autonym="Українська" data-language-local-name="ukraina" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>Українська</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-ur mw-list-item"><a href="https://ur.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%88%DB%8C%DA%A9%DB%8C%D9%BE%DB%8C%DA%88%DB%8C%D8%A7:%D8%AF%DB%8C%D9%88%D8%A7%D9%86_%D8%B9%D8%A7%D9%85" title="ویکیپیڈیا:دیوان عام – urdu" lang="ur" hreflang="ur" data-title="ویکیپیڈیا:دیوان عام" data-language-autonym="اردو" data-language-local-name="urdu" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>اردو</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-ug mw-list-item"><a href="https://ug.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:%D8%AA%D9%88%D8%B1_%D8%AC%DB%95%D9%85%D8%A6%D9%89%D9%8A%D9%89%D8%AA%D9%89" title="Wikipedia:تور جەمئىيىتى – uiguuri" lang="ug" hreflang="ug" data-title="Wikipedia:تور جەمئىيىتى" data-language-autonym="ئۇيغۇرچە / Uyghurche" data-language-local-name="uiguuri" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>ئۇيغۇرچە / Uyghurche</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-vec mw-list-item"><a href="https://vec.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Ci%C3%A0co%C5%82e" title="Wikipedia:Ciàcołe – veneti" lang="vec" hreflang="vec" data-title="Wikipedia:Ciàcołe" data-language-autonym="Vèneto" data-language-local-name="veneti" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>Vèneto</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-vo mw-list-item"><a href="https://vo.wikipedia.org/wiki/V%C3%BCkiped:Kafetar" title="Vükiped:Kafetar – volapüki" lang="vo" hreflang="vo" data-title="Vükiped:Kafetar" data-language-autonym="Volapük" data-language-local-name="volapüki" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>Volapük</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-fiu-vro mw-list-item"><a href="https://fiu-vro.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Arotus%C3%B5tar%C3%B5" title="Wikipedia:Arotusõtarõ – võru" lang="vro" hreflang="vro" data-title="Wikipedia:Arotusõtarõ" data-language-autonym="Võro" data-language-local-name="võru" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>Võro</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-wa mw-list-item"><a href="https://wa.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:C%C3%A5baret" title="Wikipedia:Cåbaret – vallooni" lang="wa" hreflang="wa" data-title="Wikipedia:Cåbaret" data-language-autonym="Walon" data-language-local-name="vallooni" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>Walon</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-zh-classical mw-list-item"><a href="https://zh-classical.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E7%B6%AD%E5%9F%BA%E5%A4%A7%E5%85%B8:%E6%9C%83%E9%A4%A8" title="維基大典:會館 – klassikaline hiina" lang="lzh" hreflang="lzh" data-title="維基大典:會館" data-language-autonym="文言" data-language-local-name="klassikaline hiina" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>文言</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-vls mw-list-item"><a href="https://vls.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Caf%C3%A9" title="Wikipedia:Café – lääneflaami" lang="vls" hreflang="vls" data-title="Wikipedia:Café" data-language-autonym="West-Vlams" data-language-local-name="lääneflaami" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>West-Vlams</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-war mw-list-item"><a href="https://war.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Harampangan" title="Wikipedia:Harampangan – varai" lang="war" hreflang="war" data-title="Wikipedia:Harampangan" data-language-autonym="Winaray" data-language-local-name="varai" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>Winaray</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-guc mw-list-item"><a href="https://guc.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipeetia:Joo%27uya_wasai_kepein" title="Wikipeetia:Joo'uya wasai kepein – vajuu" lang="guc" hreflang="guc" data-title="Wikipeetia:Joo'uya wasai kepein" data-language-autonym="Wayuunaiki" data-language-local-name="vajuu" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>Wayuunaiki</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-wo mw-list-item"><a href="https://wo.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:P%C3%A9nc_mi" title="Wikipedia:Pénc mi – volofi" lang="wo" hreflang="wo" data-title="Wikipedia:Pénc mi" data-language-autonym="Wolof" data-language-local-name="volofi" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>Wolof</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-wuu mw-list-item"><a href="https://wuu.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:%E7%BA%A2%E8%8C%B6%E5%9D%8A" title="Wikipedia:红茶坊 – uu" lang="wuu" hreflang="wuu" data-title="Wikipedia:红茶坊" data-language-autonym="吴语" data-language-local-name="uu" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>吴语</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-yi mw-list-item"><a href="https://yi.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D7%B0%D7%99%D7%A7%D7%99%D7%A4%D6%BC%D7%A2%D7%93%D7%99%D7%A2:%D7%A7%D7%90%D7%95%D7%95%D7%A2_%D7%A9%D7%98%D7%99%D7%91%D7%9C" title="װיקיפּעדיע:קאווע שטיבל – jidiši" lang="yi" hreflang="yi" data-title="װיקיפּעדיע:קאווע שטיבל" data-language-autonym="ייִדיש" data-language-local-name="jidiši" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>ייִדיש</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-yo mw-list-item"><a href="https://yo.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Ab%E1%BA%B9%CC%81_igi" title="Wikipedia:Abẹ́ igi – joruba" lang="yo" hreflang="yo" data-title="Wikipedia:Abẹ́ igi" data-language-autonym="Yorùbá" data-language-local-name="joruba" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>Yorùbá</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-zh-yue mw-list-item"><a href="https://zh-yue.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:%E5%9F%8E%E5%B8%82%E8%AB%96%E5%A3%87" title="Wikipedia:城市論壇 – kantoni" lang="yue" hreflang="yue" data-title="Wikipedia:城市論壇" data-language-autonym="粵語" data-language-local-name="kantoni" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>粵語</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-diq mw-list-item"><a href="https://diq.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipediya:Meydan%C3%AA_Dewe" title="Wikipediya:Meydanê Dewe – dõmli" lang="diq" hreflang="diq" data-title="Wikipediya:Meydanê Dewe" data-language-autonym="Zazaki" data-language-local-name="dõmli" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>Zazaki</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-zea mw-list-item"><a href="https://zea.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Durpsuus" title="Wikipedia:Durpsuus – zeelandi" lang="zea" hreflang="zea" data-title="Wikipedia:Durpsuus" data-language-autonym="Zeêuws" data-language-local-name="zeelandi" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>Zeêuws</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-bat-smg mw-list-item"><a href="https://bat-smg.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vikiped%C4%97j%C4%97:Aptar%C4%97m%C4%81" title="Vikipedėjė:Aptarėmā – žemaidi" lang="sgs" hreflang="sgs" data-title="Vikipedėjė:Aptarėmā" data-language-autonym="Žemaitėška" data-language-local-name="žemaidi" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>Žemaitėška</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-zh mw-list-item"><a href="https://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:%E4%BA%92%E5%8A%A9%E5%AE%A2%E6%A0%88" title="Wikipedia:互助客栈 – hiina" lang="zh" hreflang="zh" data-title="Wikipedia:互助客栈" data-language-autonym="中文" data-language-local-name="hiina" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>中文</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-bdr mw-list-item"><a href="https://bdr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipidia:Kaday_Kupi%27" title="Wikipidia:Kaday Kupi' – lääneranniku badžau" lang="bdr" hreflang="bdr" data-title="Wikipidia:Kaday Kupi'" data-language-autonym="Bajau Sama" data-language-local-name="lääneranniku badžau" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>Bajau Sama</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-bew mw-list-item"><a href="https://bew.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikip%C3%A9di:Saung" title="Wikipédi:Saung – betavi" lang="bew" hreflang="bew" data-title="Wikipédi:Saung" data-language-autonym="Betawi" data-language-local-name="betavi" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>Betawi</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-btm mw-list-item"><a href="https://btm.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Lopo_Kopi" title="Wikipedia:Lopo Kopi – Mandailingi bataki" lang="btm" hreflang="btm" data-title="Wikipedia:Lopo Kopi" data-language-autonym="Batak Mandailing" data-language-local-name="Mandailingi bataki" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>Batak Mandailing</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-dtp mw-list-item"><a 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Pildid peaksid olema eraldi, koos allkirjadega. Infokasti millegipärast allkirju lisada ei saa, ja nii pikk allkiri niikuinii ei sobiks ja oleks raskesti jälgitav. Pildi juures peab ikka kirjas olema, mille pilt see on. --<a href="/wiki/Kasutaja:Andres" title="Kasutaja:Andres">Andres</a> (<a href="/wiki/Kasutaja_arutelu:Andres" title="Kasutaja arutelu:Andres">arutelu</a>) <a href="https://et.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vikipeedia:%C3%9Cldine_arutelu#c-Andres-20240601191100-Fotomontaažid" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">1. juuni 2024, kell 22:11 (EEST)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Andres-20240601191100-Fotomontaažid"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">vasta</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Andres-20240601191100-Fotomontaažid"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Pikne-20240611163400-Andres-20240601191100"></span>Nõus, et fotomontaaže (kollaaže) on infokastides parem vältida. Infokasti algus on sedasi häirivalt pilkupüüdev ning peamine sisu (tekstilised andmed), mida infokastist otsida, on lükatud oluliselt allapoole. Pildiallkirja iseenesest saab lisada, aga jah, see oleks ikkagi raskesti jälgitav. Piltide vormistus võiks muidu ka olla võimalikult ühtlane ehk reeglina võiks pildid olla kogu artikli peale hajutatud ja kui mõnikord on tarvis rohkem piltide kasutada, siis võiks eelistada tavapäraseid galeriisid. Et pilte tuleks reeglina artiklis hajutada, seda muuseas on öeldud ka selle inglise vikist kopeeritud montaažimalli <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Photo_montage" class="extiw" title="en:Template:Photo montage">ingliskeelse dokumentatsiooni</a> alguses.</dd> <dd>Linnamallis kasutatavate piltide kohta ma kirjutasin enne siia: <a href="/wiki/Malli_arutelu:Infokast_asula#Pilt" title="Malli arutelu:Infokast asula">Malli arutelu:Infokast asula#Pilt</a>. Kui sellesse malli (üks) pilt lisada, siis võiks eelistada linna üldvaadet. <a href="/wiki/Kasutaja_arutelu:Pikne" title="Kasutaja arutelu:Pikne">Pikne</a> <a href="https://et.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vikipeedia:%C3%9Cldine_arutelu#c-Pikne-20240611163400-Andres-20240601191100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11. juuni 2024, kell 19:34 (EEST)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Pikne-20240611163400-Andres-20240601191100"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">vasta</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Pikne-20240611163400-Andres-20240601191100"></span></dd></dl> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Andres-20240728004200-Fotomontaažid"></span>Kas me peaksime tegema hääletuse fotomontaažide keelamiseks? Kui me neid ära ei keela, siis tuleb neid aina juurde. --<a href="/wiki/Kasutaja:Andres" title="Kasutaja:Andres">Andres</a> (<a href="/wiki/Kasutaja_arutelu:Andres" title="Kasutaja arutelu:Andres">arutelu</a>) <a href="https://et.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vikipeedia:%C3%9Cldine_arutelu#c-Andres-20240728004200-Fotomontaažid" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">28. juuli 2024, kell 03:42 (EEST)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Andres-20240728004200-Fotomontaažid"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">vasta</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Andres-20240728004200-Fotomontaažid"></span> </p><p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Mardus-20240917060300-Fotomontaažid"></span>Fotomontaažid on head, kui on näiteks vaja näidata mõne linna ilmeid ja vaateid. Toetan seejuures selliseid fotomontaaže, mis lingivad igaüks eri fotole — et nad pole mitu fotot ühes fotos, vaid mitu fotot ühes infoboxis. -<span style="text-shadow:7px 5px 7px #409fff;"><a href="/wiki/Kasutaja:Mardus" title="Kasutaja:Mardus">Mardus</a> <small>/<a href="/wiki/Kasutaja_arutelu:Mardus" title="Kasutaja arutelu:Mardus"><span style="color:black">arutelu</span></a></small></span> <a href="https://et.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vikipeedia:%C3%9Cldine_arutelu#c-Mardus-20240917060300-Fotomontaažid" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17. september 2024, kell 09:03 (EEST)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Mardus-20240917060300-Fotomontaažid"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">vasta</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Mardus-20240917060300-Fotomontaažid"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Wkentaur-20240923055700-Mardus-20240917060300"></span>mitme pildi kompaktseks esitamiseks on juba vahend olemas selleks on galerii. Montaažimalli kasutamine on galeriiga võrreldes keerukam ning tuleks seetõttu kustutada. <a href="/wiki/Kasutaja:Wkentaur" title="Kasutaja:Wkentaur">Wkentaur</a> (<a href="/wiki/Kasutaja_arutelu:Wkentaur" title="Kasutaja arutelu:Wkentaur">arutelu</a>) <a href="https://et.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vikipeedia:%C3%9Cldine_arutelu#c-Wkentaur-20240923055700-Mardus-20240917060300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23. september 2024, kell 08:57 (EEST)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Wkentaur-20240923055700-Mardus-20240917060300"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">vasta</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Wkentaur-20240923055700-Mardus-20240917060300"></span></dd></dl> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Neptuunium-20240923102600-Fotomontaažid"></span>Kummalised põhjendused nii Wkentaurilt kui ka Andreselt. Esiteks pole selle kasutusvaldkond galeriiga samaväärne (vt infokast) ja ei loo ka samalaadset visuaalset tulemust. Teiseks on keerukus suhteline – mul pole kunagi selle malli kasutamisega probleeme olnud. Samuti ei ole nõus, et infokastidesse ei tohi panna mitut pilti: see on standardlahendus paljudes Vikipeedias mitmekülgsete visuaalidega teemade (nt sõjad, linnad mitme ikoonilise hoonega jne) illustreerimiseks. Lisaks pole nendele allkirjade lisamine kuidagi eriliselt keerukas ega muuda infokasti ka raskesti jälgitavaks (seda eriti asulakastide puhul, kus on juba praegu naeruväärselt vähe infot ning palju väga olulisi asju puudu). - <span style="background:#444;padding:2px 12px;font-size:12px"><a href="/wiki/Kasutaja:Neptuunium" title="Kasutaja:Neptuunium"><span style="color:#fff">Neptuunium</span></a> <span style="color:#FC0">❯❯❯</span> <a href="/wiki/Kasutaja_arutelu:Neptuunium" title="Kasutaja arutelu:Neptuunium"><span style="color:#fff">arutelu</span></a></span> <a href="https://et.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vikipeedia:%C3%9Cldine_arutelu#c-Neptuunium-20240923102600-Fotomontaažid" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23. september 2024, kell 13:26 (EEST)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Neptuunium-20240923102600-Fotomontaažid"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">vasta</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Neptuunium-20240923102600-Fotomontaažid"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Neptuunium-20240923103100-Neptuunium-20240923102600"></span>Pärnu ja Viljandi artiklid on tänu montaažidele hoopis palju ylevaatlikumalt ja paremini illustreeritud (Viljandi puhul on nt Lossimäed kogu linna kuvandi juures väga oluline osa ja võib-olla ikoonilisemgi kui lihtsalt suvaline linnavaade). Niisamuti artiklid näiteks maailmasõdadest ja mitmetest teistest konfliktidest. Kui kusagil on ehk pilt-kaks liiga palju, siis on võimalus montaaži kärpida, mitte ei pea seda ära kustutama (samuti ei päde siin väide nagu montaaži koondaks kõik pildid artikli algusesse, nagu võib artiklite lugeja ka ise veenduda).</dd> <dd>Samuti võimaldab montaažimall erinevaid pilte kasutada just sellisel viisil nagu Mardus kirjeldab. - <span style="background:#444;padding:2px 12px;font-size:12px"><a href="/wiki/Kasutaja:Neptuunium" title="Kasutaja:Neptuunium"><span style="color:#fff">Neptuunium</span></a> <span style="color:#FC0">❯❯❯</span> <a href="/wiki/Kasutaja_arutelu:Neptuunium" title="Kasutaja arutelu:Neptuunium"><span style="color:#fff">arutelu</span></a></span> <a href="https://et.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vikipeedia:%C3%9Cldine_arutelu#c-Neptuunium-20240923103100-Neptuunium-20240923102600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23. september 2024, kell 13:31 (EEST)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Neptuunium-20240923103100-Neptuunium-20240923102600"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">vasta</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Neptuunium-20240923103100-Neptuunium-20240923102600"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Wkentaur-20240923161400-Neptuunium-20240923103100"></span>galeriid on võimalik kuvada ka kokkusurutuna:</dd> <dd><div class="mw-highlight mw-highlight-lang-tid mw-content-ltr" dir="ltr"><pre><span></span>::<span class="nt"><gallery mode="packed-hover"></span> ::<span class="nt"></gallery></span> :: </pre></div></dd> <dd><a class="external free" href="https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Images">https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Images</a> <a href="/wiki/Kasutaja:Wkentaur" title="Kasutaja:Wkentaur">Wkentaur</a> (<a href="/wiki/Kasutaja_arutelu:Wkentaur" title="Kasutaja arutelu:Wkentaur">arutelu</a>) <a href="https://et.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vikipeedia:%C3%9Cldine_arutelu#c-Wkentaur-20240923161400-Neptuunium-20240923103100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23. september 2024, kell 19:14 (EEST)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Wkentaur-20240923161400-Neptuunium-20240923103100"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">vasta</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Wkentaur-20240923161400-Neptuunium-20240923103100"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Hirvelaid-20240923141400-Fotomontaažid"></span>Täna pakutud Viljandi ja Pärnu uutest redaktsioonidest tunduvad mulle Neptuuniumi versioonid pilkupüüdvamad (võrdluses Wkentauri omadega). Jätaks alles. – <a href="/wiki/Kasutaja:Hirvelaid" title="Kasutaja:Hirvelaid">Hirvelaid</a> (<a href="/wiki/Kasutaja_arutelu:Hirvelaid" title="Kasutaja arutelu:Hirvelaid">arutelu</a>) <a href="https://et.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vikipeedia:%C3%9Cldine_arutelu#c-Hirvelaid-20240923141400-Fotomontaažid" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23. september 2024, kell 17:14 (EEST)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Hirvelaid-20240923141400-Fotomontaažid"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">vasta</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Hirvelaid-20240923141400-Fotomontaažid"></span> </p><p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Hirvelaid-20240923142900-Fotomontaažid"></span>Nüüd märkasin, et ka Haapsalu linnaartiklisse on täna lisatud fotomontaaž. Sobib hästi! – <a href="/wiki/Kasutaja:Hirvelaid" title="Kasutaja:Hirvelaid">Hirvelaid</a> (<a href="/wiki/Kasutaja_arutelu:Hirvelaid" title="Kasutaja arutelu:Hirvelaid">arutelu</a>) <a href="https://et.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vikipeedia:%C3%9Cldine_arutelu#c-Hirvelaid-20240923142900-Fotomontaažid" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23. september 2024, kell 17:29 (EEST)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Hirvelaid-20240923142900-Fotomontaažid"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">vasta</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Hirvelaid-20240923142900-Fotomontaažid"></span> </p> <dl><dd><dl><dd><span class="outdent-template" style="display:block; margin-top:-0.5em; color:#AAA;"><span style="display:inline-block; overflow:hidden;">└</span><span style="display:inline-block; overflow:hidden; word-wrap:normal; width:4em;">────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────</span><span style="display:inline-block; overflow:hidden;">┐</span></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Pietadè-20241015192900-Hirvelaid-20240923142900"></span>Haapsaluga oli see probleem, et selliselt ("| tekst = " järel) pandud piltide seletused on 2× väiksema kirjaga («harilik» "pildiallkiri" — fondi suurus 90%; "|tekst =" — fondi suurus 80%), mis on ehk liiga väike<a href="/wiki/Kasutaja:Pietad%C3%A8" title="Kasutaja:Pietadè"><span style="color:#146E2C;"> ☆☆☆ —</span> Pietadè</a> <a href="https://et.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vikipeedia:%C3%9Cldine_arutelu#c-Pietadè-20241015192900-Hirvelaid-20240923142900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15. oktoober 2024, kell 22:29 (EEST)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Pietadè-20241015192900-Hirvelaid-20240923142900"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">vasta</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Pietadè-20241015192900-Hirvelaid-20240923142900"></span></dd></dl></dd> <dd><span class="outdent-template" style="display:block; margin-top:-0.5em; color:#AAA;"><span style="display:inline-block; overflow:hidden;">┌</span><span style="display:inline-block; overflow:hidden; word-wrap:normal; width:2.4em;">────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────</span><span style="display:inline-block; overflow:hidden;">┘</span></span></dd></dl></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Pikne-20240923165100-Hirvelaid-20240923142900"></span>Selleks et "näidata mõne linna ilmeid ja vaateid" ei ole iseenesest vaja fotomontaaži infokastis, sageli ka mitte tavalist galeriid allpool. Tavaline galerii ei näe küll samasugune välja, aga see iseenesest ei selgita, miks jällegi peavad pildid olema just sellise fotomontaaži kujul infokastis ning kuidas selle asukoht infokastis seejuures kaalub üles eespool välja toodud puudused.</dd> <dd>Nende fotomontaažide pilkupüüdvus minu meelest ongi just nende peamine puudus. Esitus peaks olema tasakaalustatud, nii et teatud infokillud või elemendid poleks artiklis mõjuva põhjuseta esile tõstetud. Ka üksik pilt on teksti kõrval paratamatult pilkupüüdev ning väiksematest piltidest kokku pandud suur pilt teeb pildid ilma hea põhjuseta muu materjali kõrval veel eriti silmatorkavaks.</dd> <dd>Kui pildil on "linna kuvandi juures väga oluline osa" või midagi "ikoonilist", siis sellised olulisemad pildid saab enamvähem samahästi panna lihtsalt artiklis ettepoole või need saab lisada väljapoole galeriisid mõnevõrra suuremana artikli küljele. Üldjuhul samas pole minu meelest selge, millised pildid on need eriti olulised pildid, enamasti tundub pildivalik neis fotomontaažides siiski üsna subjektiivne või lihtsalt suvaline. Näiteks Viljandi ja Pärnu näites on seal praegu peamiselt hooned, mis pole küll täiesti suvalised hooned, aga sarnaseid märkimisväärseid hooneid või muid objekte võiks kummalgi juhul leida palju rohkem.</dd> <dd>Juhiksin veelkord tähelepanu, et infokasti esmane ülesanne on tõsta kohe artikli alguses esile tähtsam tekstiline info. Infokasti ei ole kunagi lisatud (ainult) piltide pärast. Kui infokasti algusesse on kuhjatud hunnik pilte, nii nagu näiteks samas Viljandi ja Pärnu näites, kus infokasti peamise sisuni jõudmiseks tuleb allapoole kerida, ei täida infokast õieti enam selle esmast ülesannet.</dd> <dd>Minu meelest ei ole õige, et sellised montaažid on paljudes Vikipeediates näiteks asulaartiklites n-ö standardlahendus. Inglise vikis on küll mõned kasutajad neid montaaže asulaartiklitesse lisanud, aga üldises juhendis ja ka sama malli juhendis on seal märgitud, et üldjuhul peaks pildid olema paigutatud artikli peal hajutatult, nagu ka eespool juba välja tõin.</dd> <dd>Raskesti jälgitavuse all peab Andres ilmselt silmas seda, et montaažis sisalduva konkreetse pildi kirjeldust tuleb otsida muu jutu seest. Eelnevalt väljatoodu kõrval on see küll pisem puudus.</dd> <dd>Kas fotomontaaži malli peaks kustutama, on iseküsimus. Võib-olla näiteks siis, kui teemaks on mingi asi, mida on kaht liiki, siis ehk on ülevaatlik panna selle asja artiklis infokasti kõrvuti kummagi liigi pilt. Võib-olla oleks mingi sobiv kasutus ka kuskil mujal väljaspool infokaste, kus mingis piiratud ruumiga kohas ei ole tavaline galerii piisavalt kompaktne ega piisavalt paindliku vormistusega. Mallile iseenest võib leiduda ka mingi sobivam kasutusotstarve, aga kui malli kiputakse samas kasutama eeskätt ebasobival moel, siis võib olla otstarbekas mall ikkagi kustutada.</dd> <dd>Artiklite vormistus, sealhulgas piltide paigutus, võiks olla üldise kasutusmugavuse huvides siiski artiklite lõikes võimalikult ühetaoline. Seetõttu võiks jälgida, et pildid poleks ilma mõjuva põhjuseta igas artiklis isemoodi paigutatud, sealhulgas isemoodi galeriides. Wkentaur ehk vihjab selle juures veel sellele väiksemale raskusele, et kui kasutame vormistamiseks palju isesuguseid malle ja isesugust koodi, siis toimetamisel on raskem orienteeruda, eriti uutel kasutajatel. Seega keerulisema või tavalisest erineva koodi kasutamiseks võiks jällegi olla hea põhjus, ei peaks lihtsalt vahelduse mõttes eri moodi vormistama. <a href="/wiki/Kasutaja_arutelu:Pikne" title="Kasutaja arutelu:Pikne">Pikne</a> <a href="https://et.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vikipeedia:%C3%9Cldine_arutelu#c-Pikne-20240923165100-Hirvelaid-20240923142900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23. september 2024, kell 19:51 (EEST)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Pikne-20240923165100-Hirvelaid-20240923142900"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">vasta</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Pikne-20240923165100-Hirvelaid-20240923142900"></span></dd></dl> <hr/> <div style="display:inline;float:right;margin:10px 0 10px 15px;border: 6px double #ff7f00"> <span 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katedraal">Katedraal</a></div></div></div><div class="trow"><div class="tsingle" style="width:280px;max-width:280px"><div style="height:96px;overflow:hidden"><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/Fail:Panorama_of_the_Ponte_Vecchio_in_Florence,_Italy.jpg" class="mw-file-description"><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/77/Panorama_of_the_Ponte_Vecchio_in_Florence%2C_Italy.jpg/278px-Panorama_of_the_Ponte_Vecchio_in_Florence%2C_Italy.jpg" decoding="async" width="278" height="97" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/77/Panorama_of_the_Ponte_Vecchio_in_Florence%2C_Italy.jpg/417px-Panorama_of_the_Ponte_Vecchio_in_Florence%2C_Italy.jpg 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/77/Panorama_of_the_Ponte_Vecchio_in_Florence%2C_Italy.jpg/556px-Panorama_of_the_Ponte_Vecchio_in_Florence%2C_Italy.jpg 2x" data-file-width="14394" data-file-height="5000"/></a></span></div><div class="text-align-center"><a href="/wiki/Ponte_Vecchio" title="Ponte Vecchio">Ponte Vecchio</a></div></div></div></div></div></div> <p>Vaatan praegu <a href="/wiki/Firenze" title="Firenze">Firenze</a> artiklist kustutatut (paremas ääres) ega saa aru, miks see „inetus“ kustutamist vajas...<br/>Või siis, artiklis <a href="/wiki/Erfurt" title="Erfurt">Erfurt</a> on kokku kolm pilti ja kaks lauset, ingliskeelses artiklis <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Erfurt" class="extiw" title="en:Erfurt">Erfurt</a> on infokastis kuus pilti ja tekstis N×<sup>∞</sup> lauset ({{mitu pilti}} võimaldaks lisada iga pildi alla kirje)<br/>Pealegi, fotode tegemiseks ei ole isegi <a href="/w/index.php?title=Pimik&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Pimik (pole veel kirjutatud)">pimikut</a> (<a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://sonaveeb.ee/search/unif/dlall/dsall/pimik/1/est">päevavalguseta ruum fototöödeks</a>) vaja...<a href="/wiki/Kasutaja:Pietad%C3%A8" title="Kasutaja:Pietadè"><span style="color:#146E2C;"> ☆☆☆ —</span> Pietadè</a> <a href="https://et.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vikipeedia:%C3%9Cldine_arutelu#c-Pietadè-20241015153400-Fotomontaažid" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15. oktoober 2024, kell 18:34 (EEST)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Pietadè-20241015153400-Fotomontaažid"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">vasta</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Pietadè-20241015153400-Fotomontaažid"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Pikne-20241021171700-Pietadè-20241015153400"></span>Ma kirjutasin eelnevas kommentaaris miks. Mis selle juures täpsemalt arusaadav ei ole? Peamine on minu jaoks see, et sedasi infokasti kuhjatud piltide tõttu ei täida infokast õieti enam seda ülesannet, millepärast infokast artiklisse on lisatud. Kõik infokastid on tehtud ennekõike selleks, et tõsta artikli alguses esile teatud tekstilised andmed, mitte selleks, et sinna saaks pilte koguda.</dd> <dd>Pilte saab artiklitesse lisada, aga jällegi, ei ole enesestmõistetav, miks need tuleks lisada just infokasti. Eespool on välja toodud mitu põhjust selle kohta, miks on üldjuhul parem pilte artiklisse teisiti paigutada. <a href="/wiki/Kasutaja_arutelu:Pikne" title="Kasutaja arutelu:Pikne">Pikne</a> <a href="https://et.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vikipeedia:%C3%9Cldine_arutelu#c-Pikne-20241021171700-Pietadè-20241015153400" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21. oktoober 2024, kell 20:17 (EEST)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Pikne-20241021171700-Pietadè-20241015153400"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">vasta</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Pikne-20241021171700-Pietadè-20241015153400"></span></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Hirvelaid-20241029071900-Pietadè-20241015153400"></span>Mis selle Erfurtiga on? Praegune visuaalne lahendus on ju kena. Firenze on pikema tekstiga artikkel ja sinna võiks minu maitse kohaselt siintoodud fotomontaaž sobida küll. Aga kolm vilunud vikitegijat on sellele vastu :) – <a href="/wiki/Kasutaja:Hirvelaid" title="Kasutaja:Hirvelaid">Hirvelaid</a> (<a href="/wiki/Kasutaja_arutelu:Hirvelaid" title="Kasutaja arutelu:Hirvelaid">arutelu</a>) <a href="https://et.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vikipeedia:%C3%9Cldine_arutelu#c-Hirvelaid-20241029071900-Pietadè-20241015153400" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">29. oktoober 2024, kell 09:19 (EET)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Hirvelaid-20241029071900-Pietadè-20241015153400"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">vasta</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Hirvelaid-20241029071900-Pietadè-20241015153400"></span></dd></dl> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Wkentaur-20241029223800-Fotomontaažid"></span>Milliseid funktsioone täidab 67x67 fikseeritud suuruses pilt paremini tavalisest pisipildist, mis vaikimisi mahutatakse 220x220 alale? --<a href="/wiki/Kasutaja:Wkentaur" title="Kasutaja:Wkentaur">Wkentaur</a> (<a href="/wiki/Kasutaja_arutelu:Wkentaur" title="Kasutaja arutelu:Wkentaur">arutelu</a>) <a href="https://et.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vikipeedia:%C3%9Cldine_arutelu#c-Wkentaur-20241029223800-Fotomontaažid" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">30. oktoober 2024, kell 00:38 (EET)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Wkentaur-20241029223800-Fotomontaažid"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">vasta</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Wkentaur-20241029223800-Fotomontaažid"></span> </p><p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Pietadè-20241029084200-Fotomontaažid"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/Fail:Bas%C3%ADlica_de_la_Santa_Cruz,_Florencia,_Italia,_2022-09-18,_DD_95.jpg" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/4/4d/Bas%C3%ADlica_de_la_Santa_Cruz%2C_Florencia%2C_Italia%2C_2022-09-18%2C_DD_95.jpg/67px-Bas%C3%ADlica_de_la_Santa_Cruz%2C_Florencia%2C_Italia%2C_2022-09-18%2C_DD_95.jpg" decoding="async" width="67" height="67" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/4/4d/Bas%C3%ADlica_de_la_Santa_Cruz%2C_Florencia%2C_Italia%2C_2022-09-18%2C_DD_95.jpg/101px-Bas%C3%ADlica_de_la_Santa_Cruz%2C_Florencia%2C_Italia%2C_2022-09-18%2C_DD_95.jpg 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/4/4d/Bas%C3%ADlica_de_la_Santa_Cruz%2C_Florencia%2C_Italia%2C_2022-09-18%2C_DD_95.jpg/134px-Bas%C3%ADlica_de_la_Santa_Cruz%2C_Florencia%2C_Italia%2C_2022-09-18%2C_DD_95.jpg 2x" data-file-width="4558" data-file-height="4558"/></a></span> vs </p> <figure class="mw-default-size mw-halign-left" typeof="mw:File/Thumb"><a href="/wiki/Fail:Bas%C3%ADlica_de_la_Santa_Cruz,_Florencia,_Italia,_2022-09-18,_DD_95.jpg" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/4/4d/Bas%C3%ADlica_de_la_Santa_Cruz%2C_Florencia%2C_Italia%2C_2022-09-18%2C_DD_95.jpg/220px-Bas%C3%ADlica_de_la_Santa_Cruz%2C_Florencia%2C_Italia%2C_2022-09-18%2C_DD_95.jpg" decoding="async" width="220" height="220" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/4/4d/Bas%C3%ADlica_de_la_Santa_Cruz%2C_Florencia%2C_Italia%2C_2022-09-18%2C_DD_95.jpg/330px-Bas%C3%ADlica_de_la_Santa_Cruz%2C_Florencia%2C_Italia%2C_2022-09-18%2C_DD_95.jpg 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/4/4d/Bas%C3%ADlica_de_la_Santa_Cruz%2C_Florencia%2C_Italia%2C_2022-09-18%2C_DD_95.jpg/440px-Bas%C3%ADlica_de_la_Santa_Cruz%2C_Florencia%2C_Italia%2C_2022-09-18%2C_DD_95.jpg 2x" data-file-width="4558" data-file-height="4558"/></a><figcaption></figcaption></figure> <div style="clear:both;"></div> <dl><dd><dl><dd><a href="/wiki/Erfurt" title="Erfurt">Erfurt</a> sattus <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Photo_montage" class="extiw" title="en:Template:Photo montage">ingliskeelse malli</a> alamlehelt <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:WhatLinksHere/Template:Photo_montage">Special:WhatLinksHere/Template:Photo_montage</a> esimesena ette, ehk siis, mõte selles, et kui puudub „inimressurss“ (pikema/a(s)jalikuma) artikli loomiseks, võiksid tutvustavad pildid üle maailma tuntud kohtadest olla; kõrvalmärkusena: kui on olemas vapp/lipp, siis nt enwikis on selle all automaatselt linkimata kirje "lipp/vapp"..., aga, nojah, ilunud vikitegijate arvates on sellised punased lingid ülisobilikud ilmestama e.k. W taset...<a href="/wiki/Kasutaja:Pietad%C3%A8" title="Kasutaja:Pietadè"><span style="color:#146E2C;"> ☆☆☆ —</span> Pietadè</a> <a href="https://et.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vikipeedia:%C3%9Cldine_arutelu#c-Pietadè-20241029084200-Fotomontaažid" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">29. oktoober 2024, kell 10:42 (EET)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Pietadè-20241029084200-Fotomontaažid"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">vasta</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Pietadè-20241029084200-Fotomontaažid"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Kruusamägi-20241029231600-Pietadè-20241029084200"></span>Need punased "X lipp" ja "X vapp" lingid on minugi meelest totakad. Sümboolika teemat võiks lahata asula/haldusüksuse artiklis. Vahel on tõesti hea teha eraldi artiklid, kui materjali rohkem, aga see on pigem erand kui reegel.</dd> <dd>Fotomontaažide vastu mul midagi pole. Samas saame hakkama ka ilma nendeta. <a href="/wiki/Kasutaja:Kruusam%C3%A4gi" title="Kasutaja:Kruusamägi">Ivo</a> (<a href="/wiki/Kasutaja_arutelu:Kruusam%C3%A4gi" title="Kasutaja arutelu:Kruusamägi">arutelu</a>) <a href="https://et.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vikipeedia:%C3%9Cldine_arutelu#c-Kruusamägi-20241029231600-Pietadè-20241029084200" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">30. oktoober 2024, kell 01:16 (EET)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Kruusamägi-20241029231600-Pietadè-20241029084200"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">vasta</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Kruusamägi-20241029231600-Pietadè-20241029084200"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <hr/> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Pietadè-20241120152300-Fotomontaažid"></span>Fotomontaaži kasuks räägib nt ka see, et kogu pildindusega seotu (nt drooni-, makro-, mikroülesvõtted jne) on kiirelt arenemas (nii kvalitatiivselt kui kvantitatiivselt) ja, mis põhjendus peaks olema „moraalselt“ iganenu eelistamisel tänapäeva(se) tehnikaga loodule?<br/>Aga nojah, nt <a href="/wiki/%C5%A2%C4%81leb%C4%81n" title="Ţālebān">Talibani</a> käesoleva aasta poliitika näeb ette ka valitsuses osalevatele meesisikutele käsukorras vähemalt kämblapikkuse habeme kasvatamise, jne, jne (<a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.reuters.com/world/asia-pacific/taliban-bars-government-employees-without-beards-work-sources-2022-03-28/">Reuters</a>)...;-)<a href="/wiki/Kasutaja:Pietad%C3%A8" title="Kasutaja:Pietadè"><span style="color:#146E2C;"> ☆☆☆ —</span> Pietadè</a> <a href="https://et.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vikipeedia:%C3%9Cldine_arutelu#c-Pietadè-20241120152300-Fotomontaažid" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20. november 2024, kell 17:23 (EET)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Pietadè-20241120152300-Fotomontaažid"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">vasta</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Pietadè-20241120152300-Fotomontaažid"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Ilme" data-mw-thread-id="h-Ilme-20240625095100"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Ilme-20240625095100"></span>Ilme<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Ilme-20240625095100"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Vikipeedia:%C3%9Cldine_arutelu&action=edit&section=2" title="Muuda alaosa "Ilme" lähteteksti"><span>muuda lähteteksti</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-193.40.12.10-20240625095100-Ilme"></span>Vikipeedia on "inimsõbralikumaks" tehtud - iga uut lehte avades visatakse ekraanile ilme valiku tabel. Kuidas saaks selle välja lülitada? <a href="/wiki/Eri:Kaast%C3%B6%C3%B6/193.40.12.10" title="Eri:Kaastöö/193.40.12.10">193.40.12.10</a> <a href="https://et.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vikipeedia:%C3%9Cldine_arutelu#c-193.40.12.10-20240625095100-Ilme" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">25. juuni 2024, kell 12:51 (EEST)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-193.40.12.10-20240625095100-Ilme"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">vasta</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-193.40.12.10-20240625095100-Ilme"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Taavi_Kiisk-20240626084600-193.40.12.10-20240625095100"></span>Ilmest paremal on nupp peida. Tolle valimine viib menüü silma alt ära. <a href="/wiki/Kasutaja:Taavi_Kiisk" title="Kasutaja:Taavi Kiisk">Taavi Kiisk</a> (<a href="/wiki/Kasutaja_arutelu:Taavi_Kiisk" title="Kasutaja arutelu:Taavi Kiisk">arutelu</a>) <a href="https://et.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vikipeedia:%C3%9Cldine_arutelu#c-Taavi_Kiisk-20240626084600-193.40.12.10-20240625095100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">26. juuni 2024, kell 11:46 (EEST)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Taavi_Kiisk-20240626084600-193.40.12.10-20240625095100"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">vasta</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Taavi_Kiisk-20240626084600-193.40.12.10-20240625095100"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-2001:7D0:8913:9580:82AA:AE97:950A:A61F-20240626150800-Taavi_Kiisk-20240626084600"></span>Ja järgmist lehte avades hüppab see jälle välja. Ja nii iga uut lehte avades. Miks peab Vikipeediast millegi otsimine käima niimoodi pealesunnitud "kasutajasõbralikkusega" sõdides? <a href="/wiki/Eri:Kaast%C3%B6%C3%B6/2001:7D0:8913:9580:82AA:AE97:950A:A61F" title="Eri:Kaastöö/2001:7D0:8913:9580:82AA:AE97:950A:A61F">2001:7D0:8913:9580:82AA:AE97:950A:A61F</a> <a href="https://et.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vikipeedia:%C3%9Cldine_arutelu#c-2001:7D0:8913:9580:82AA:AE97:950A:A61F-20240626150800-Taavi_Kiisk-20240626084600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">26. juuni 2024, kell 18:08 (EEST)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-2001:7D0:8913:9580:82AA:AE97:950A:A61F-20240626150800-Taavi_Kiisk-20240626084600"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">vasta</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-2001:7D0:8913:9580:82AA:AE97:950A:A61F-20240626150800-Taavi_Kiisk-20240626084600"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Pietadè-20240719220300-2001:7D0:8913:9580:82AA:AE97:950A:A61F-20240626150800"></span>„<a href="/wiki/Ilme" title="Ilme">Ilme</a>(de)sse“ süüvi(tu)des: mõne nädala eest valisin <u><a href="https://rue.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%93%D0%BE%D0%BB%D0%BE%D0%B2%D0%BD%D0%B0_%D1%81%D1%82%D0%BE%D1%80%D1%96%D0%BD%D0%BA%D0%B0" class="extiw" title="rue:Головна сторінка">rue.wikipedias</a></u> eelistuste alt välja kuva, mis annab tulemuseks: nt eestikeelselt lehel, tõlkimata „asjad“ [Main page // Üldine arutelu // ...] on ingliskeelsed, tõlgitud „asjad“ eestikeelsed, aluti kummaline, praeguseks hakkab tasapisi isegi meeldima, ehk...<a href="/wiki/Kasutaja:Pietad%C3%A8" title="Kasutaja:Pietadè"><span style="color:#146E2C;"> ☆☆☆ —</span> Pietadè</a> <a href="https://et.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vikipeedia:%C3%9Cldine_arutelu#c-Pietadè-20240719220300-2001:7D0:8913:9580:82AA:AE97:950A:A61F-20240626150800" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20. juuli 2024, kell 01:03 (EEST)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Pietadè-20240719220300-2001:7D0:8913:9580:82AA:AE97:950A:A61F-20240626150800"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">vasta</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Pietadè-20240719220300-2001:7D0:8913:9580:82AA:AE97:950A:A61F-20240626150800"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Andres-20240720095500-Pietadè-20240719220300"></span>Mind on see mõnikord segadusse, tekitanud arvamuse, et olen eesti Vikipeedias. <a href="/wiki/Kasutaja:Andres" title="Kasutaja:Andres">Andres</a> (<a href="/wiki/Kasutaja_arutelu:Andres" title="Kasutaja arutelu:Andres">arutelu</a>) <a href="https://et.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vikipeedia:%C3%9Cldine_arutelu#c-Andres-20240720095500-Pietadè-20240719220300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20. juuli 2024, kell 12:55 (EEST)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Andres-20240720095500-Pietadè-20240719220300"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">vasta</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Andres-20240720095500-Pietadè-20240719220300"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-193.40.55.75-20241021180000-Ilme"></span>Jüri Kolk kirjutas 13. septembri Sirbis: ".. kogu aeg karjutakse ruuporist soovitusi osta veel seda ja toda, minna sinna ja teha neid ja teisi asju. Sedasorti pealetükkivat müra on kõik kohad täis." ".. paljud programmide ja operatsioonisüsteemide sisse ehitatud robotid kipuvad suvalisel hetkel teile midagi pakkuma, juhivad tähelepanu teie tegevuselt kõrvale, hüppavad põõsast teerajale ja esitavad ultimaatumi. [..] Kus on lihtne selge konkreetne ja lõplik „ei“?! Kes võõrandas minu õiguse keelduda? [..] korporatsioonil ei tohiks olla õigust mulle lakkamatult peale käia. [..] Oleme olukorraga leppinud, nagu peakski asjad nii käima, aga ei pea. [..] me peaksime hakkama liikuma nõusolekupõhise maailma poole. Ja sellestki on vähe – me peaks liikuma tahteavaldusepõhise maailma poole. Praegu ei suudeta mõista seda, et ei on ei. Ei on kindlasti ei ja kõigil peab olema võimalus seda sõna kasutada."<br/></dd></dl> <p>Vikipeedias puudub võimalus öelda, et ärge loopige mulle spämmi ekraanile -- seda iga artikliga kaasnevat püstformaadis akna korral veerandi või kolmandiku akna laiust kohustuslikku valikut, et mis värvi tausta, kui suurt teksti, kui laia akent soovid selle artikli lugemiseks. Kõik need valikud on juba tehtud veebilehitseja seadetes. <a href="/wiki/Eri:Kaast%C3%B6%C3%B6/193.40.55.75" title="Eri:Kaastöö/193.40.55.75">193.40.55.75</a> <a href="https://et.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vikipeedia:%C3%9Cldine_arutelu#c-193.40.55.75-20241021180000-Ilme" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21. oktoober 2024, kell 21:00 (EEST)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-193.40.55.75-20241021180000-Ilme"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">vasta</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-193.40.55.75-20241021180000-Ilme"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-2001:7D0:8046:7980:A4B4:BA4F:2226:9636-20241026161000-193.40.55.75-20241021180000"></span>Aga mõtle selle peale, et keegi tunneb kindlasti uhkust, et on suutnud sellise tüütava lahenduse välja mõelda ja Vikipeedia kasutajate piinamiseks käiku lasta. Kas meil on õigust seda inimest tema elu suurimast õnnest ilma jätta? <a href="/wiki/Eri:Kaast%C3%B6%C3%B6/2001:7D0:8046:7980:A4B4:BA4F:2226:9636" title="Eri:Kaastöö/2001:7D0:8046:7980:A4B4:BA4F:2226:9636">2001:7D0:8046:7980:A4B4:BA4F:2226:9636</a> <a href="https://et.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vikipeedia:%C3%9Cldine_arutelu#c-2001:7D0:8046:7980:A4B4:BA4F:2226:9636-20241026161000-193.40.55.75-20241021180000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">26. oktoober 2024, kell 19:10 (EEST)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-2001:7D0:8046:7980:A4B4:BA4F:2226:9636-20241026161000-193.40.55.75-20241021180000"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">vasta</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-2001:7D0:8046:7980:A4B4:BA4F:2226:9636-20241026161000-193.40.55.75-20241021180000"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Pikne-20241114182600-2001:7D0:8046:7980:A4B4:BA4F:2226:9636-20241026161000"></span>No vähemasti öörežiimi lisamist on aastate jooksul soovinud palju kasutajaid. Et seda saaksid nüüd kasutada ka tavalised lugejad, kes harilikult pole sisse loginud, siis kuskile menüüsse on vaja panna link selle sisse- ja väljalülitamiseks. Ma katsetasin olles välja loginud. Minul vähemasti jätab brauser selle menüü peitmise valiku meelde küll, ka siis, kui brauser vahepeal sulgeda. <a href="/wiki/Kasutaja_arutelu:Pikne" title="Kasutaja arutelu:Pikne">Pikne</a> <a href="https://et.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vikipeedia:%C3%9Cldine_arutelu#c-Pikne-20241114182600-2001:7D0:8046:7980:A4B4:BA4F:2226:9636-20241026161000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14. november 2024, kell 20:26 (EET)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Pikne-20241114182600-2001:7D0:8046:7980:A4B4:BA4F:2226:9636-20241026161000"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">vasta</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Pikne-20241114182600-2001:7D0:8046:7980:A4B4:BA4F:2226:9636-20241026161000"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Surma_tõendamine" data-mw-thread-id="h-Surma_tõendamine-20240724072900"><span id="Surma_t.C3.B5endamine"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Surma_tõendamine-20240724072900"></span>Surma tõendamine<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Surma_tõendamine-20240724072900"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Vikipeedia:%C3%9Cldine_arutelu&action=edit&section=3" title="Muuda alaosa "Surma tõendamine" lähteteksti"><span>muuda lähteteksti</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Andres-20240724072900-Surma_tõendamine"></span>Ma leian, et nii see ikka ei käi, et anonüümne kasutaja kirjutab, et keegi on surnud, ja me jäämegi seda uskuma, kuigi ametlikku ega üldse mingit muud surmateadet ei ole. Vikipeedia ei ole uudisteagentuur, ja uudisteagentuuriski ei kasutata anonüümsest allikast pärinevat infot. </p><p>Kui me kuulutame kellegi enneaegselt surnuks, on see Vikipeediale väga diskrediteeriv, rääkimata moraalsest kahjust asjaosalisele. --<a href="/wiki/Kasutaja:Andres" title="Kasutaja:Andres">Andres</a> (<a href="/wiki/Kasutaja_arutelu:Andres" title="Kasutaja arutelu:Andres">arutelu</a>) <a href="https://et.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vikipeedia:%C3%9Cldine_arutelu#c-Andres-20240724072900-Surma_tõendamine" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">24. juuli 2024, kell 10:29 (EEST)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Andres-20240724072900-Surma_tõendamine"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">vasta</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Andres-20240724072900-Surma_tõendamine"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Neptuunium-20240724083600-Andres-20240724072900"></span>Nõus. Sellised muudatused tuleb tagasi pöörata. - <span style="background:#444;padding:2px 12px;font-size:12px"><a href="/wiki/Kasutaja:Neptuunium" title="Kasutaja:Neptuunium"><span style="color:#fff">Neptuunium</span></a> <span style="color:#FC0">❯❯❯</span> <a href="/wiki/Kasutaja_arutelu:Neptuunium" title="Kasutaja arutelu:Neptuunium"><span style="color:#fff">arutelu</span></a></span> <a href="https://et.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vikipeedia:%C3%9Cldine_arutelu#c-Neptuunium-20240724083600-Andres-20240724072900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">24. juuli 2024, kell 11:36 (EEST)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Neptuunium-20240724083600-Andres-20240724072900"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">vasta</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Neptuunium-20240724083600-Andres-20240724072900"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Velirand-20240724083800-Neptuunium-20240724083600"></span>Kas seda Rahvastikuregistrist kontrollida ei saa? <a href="/wiki/Kasutaja:Velirand" title="Kasutaja:Velirand">Velirand</a> (<a href="/wiki/Kasutaja_arutelu:Velirand" title="Kasutaja arutelu:Velirand">arutelu</a>) <a href="https://et.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vikipeedia:%C3%9Cldine_arutelu#c-Velirand-20240724083800-Neptuunium-20240724083600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">24. juuli 2024, kell 11:38 (EEST)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Velirand-20240724083800-Neptuunium-20240724083600"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">vasta</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Velirand-20240724083800-Neptuunium-20240724083600"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-VillaK-20240725043000-Velirand-20240724083800"></span>Nii see üldiselt ei peaks käima. Üldjuhul peaks surma fakt muidugi olema viidatav ja üldjuhul see ongi viidatav. (Kui viide on lisamata, siis, nagu Andres on varem osundanud, saavad viite lisada teised). Kuid Vikipeedias on isikuartiklid ju üksnes tähelepanuväärsete isikute kohta, eks ole? Vikipeedia pole küll uudisteagentuur, kuid on halb ja entsüklopeediat diskrediteeriv kui tähelepanuväärne isik on ammu surnud, kuid Vikipeedia info järgi endiselt elavate kirjas. Tänapäeval võib aga juhtuda, et info kellegi surmast levib vaid nt asutuse või kogukonna listis või sotsiaalmeedias, mis ei pruugi olla üldsusele vabalt kättesaadav ja seetõttu viitena kasutatav. Olid ajad kui praktiliselt iga inimese surma kohta avaldati ajalehes surmakuulutusi, kuid need ajad on möödanik. (Kui palju neid ajalehti paberkujul veel üldse ilmub ja surmakuulutuste traditsioon on hääbumas, vähemasti pole see enam üldine tava.) Kui isik tuhastatakse, kuid kalmistule ei maeta, siis ei ilmu see info ka kalmistute registrisse. Õigustatud huvi korral on surnud isiku andmeid (sh surma aeg ja koht) võimalik küll rahvastikuregistrist küsida (vt rahvastikuregistri seaduse <a rel="nofollow" class="external autonumber" href="https://www.riigiteataja.ee/akt/122122018013?leiaKehtiv">[1]</a> §46), kuid iseküsimus, kas selline päringuvastus on Vikipeedias viitena kasutatav. Muidugi, leidlikud inimesed leiavad sellistele dilemmadele alati lahenduse. Näiteks, "anonüümne kasutaja" lisab surma info esmalt Genisse ja siis viitab Vikipeedias Genile kui allikale ;-) --<a href="/wiki/Kasutaja:VillaK" title="Kasutaja:VillaK">VillaK</a> (<a href="/wiki/Kasutaja_arutelu:VillaK" title="Kasutaja arutelu:VillaK">arutelu</a>) <a href="https://et.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vikipeedia:%C3%9Cldine_arutelu#c-VillaK-20240725043000-Velirand-20240724083800" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">25. juuli 2024, kell 07:30 (EEST)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-VillaK-20240725043000-Velirand-20240724083800"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">vasta</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-VillaK-20240725043000-Velirand-20240724083800"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Andres-20240727113500-VillaK-20240725043000"></span>Geni ei ole ka Vikipeedias aktsepteeritav allikas, kuigi see on üldiselt usaldatav. Vajaduse korral saab Geni meie veendumust kujundada, aga viidata sellele ei saa. Hea küll, me võime kellegi surnuks märkida ka siis, kui viidet ei ole, aga me peame fakti kuidagi teada saama. Kui anonüümne kasutaja selle artiklisse sisse paneb, siis me ei ütleks, et me oleme teada saanud.</dd> <dd>Mind ajendas <a href="/wiki/Maret_Purde" title="Maret Purde">Maret Purde</a> juhtum. <a href="/wiki/Kasutaja:Andres" title="Kasutaja:Andres">Andres</a> (<a href="/wiki/Kasutaja_arutelu:Andres" title="Kasutaja arutelu:Andres">arutelu</a>) <a href="https://et.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vikipeedia:%C3%9Cldine_arutelu#c-Andres-20240727113500-VillaK-20240725043000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">27. juuli 2024, kell 14:35 (EEST)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Andres-20240727113500-VillaK-20240725043000"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">vasta</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Andres-20240727113500-VillaK-20240725043000"></span></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Andres-20240729163800-VillaK-20240725043000"></span>Nüüd ka <a href="/wiki/Tiit_Tiidemann" title="Tiit Tiidemann">Tiit Tiidemann</a>. --<a href="/wiki/Kasutaja:Andres" title="Kasutaja:Andres">Andres</a> (<a href="/wiki/Kasutaja_arutelu:Andres" title="Kasutaja arutelu:Andres">arutelu</a>) <a href="https://et.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vikipeedia:%C3%9Cldine_arutelu#c-Andres-20240729163800-VillaK-20240725043000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">29. juuli 2024, kell 19:38 (EEST)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Andres-20240729163800-VillaK-20240725043000"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">vasta</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Andres-20240729163800-VillaK-20240725043000"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-VillaK-20240731193500-Andres-20240729163800"></span>Tiit Tiidemanni surmakuulutus ilmus 31. juuli Postimehes. <a href="/wiki/Kasutaja:VillaK" title="Kasutaja:VillaK">VillaK</a> (<a href="/wiki/Kasutaja_arutelu:VillaK" title="Kasutaja arutelu:VillaK">arutelu</a>) <a href="https://et.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vikipeedia:%C3%9Cldine_arutelu#c-VillaK-20240731193500-Andres-20240729163800" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">31. juuli 2024, kell 22:35 (EEST)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-VillaK-20240731193500-Andres-20240729163800"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">vasta</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-VillaK-20240731193500-Andres-20240729163800"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Andres-20240801105100-VillaK-20240731193500"></span>Palun pane viide. <a href="/wiki/Kasutaja:Andres" title="Kasutaja:Andres">Andres</a> (<a href="/wiki/Kasutaja_arutelu:Andres" title="Kasutaja arutelu:Andres">arutelu</a>) <a href="https://et.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vikipeedia:%C3%9Cldine_arutelu#c-Andres-20240801105100-VillaK-20240731193500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">1. august 2024, kell 13:51 (EEST)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Andres-20240801105100-VillaK-20240731193500"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">vasta</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Andres-20240801105100-VillaK-20240731193500"></span></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Andres-20240802082300-VillaK-20240731193500"></span>Või keegi teine, kellel on juurdepääs allikale. --<a href="/wiki/Kasutaja:Andres" title="Kasutaja:Andres">Andres</a> (<a href="/wiki/Kasutaja_arutelu:Andres" title="Kasutaja arutelu:Andres">arutelu</a>) <a href="https://et.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vikipeedia:%C3%9Cldine_arutelu#c-Andres-20240802082300-VillaK-20240731193500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">2. august 2024, kell 11:23 (EEST)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Andres-20240802082300-VillaK-20240731193500"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">vasta</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Andres-20240802082300-VillaK-20240731193500"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd> <dd><a href="/wiki/Malle_Rute" title="Malle Rute"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Andres-20240731154300-VillaK-20240725043000"></span>Malle Rute</a>. --<a href="/wiki/Kasutaja:Andres" title="Kasutaja:Andres">Andres</a> (<a href="/wiki/Kasutaja_arutelu:Andres" title="Kasutaja arutelu:Andres">arutelu</a>) <a href="https://et.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vikipeedia:%C3%9Cldine_arutelu#c-Andres-20240731154300-VillaK-20240725043000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">31. juuli 2024, kell 18:43 (EEST)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Andres-20240731154300-VillaK-20240725043000"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">vasta</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Andres-20240731154300-VillaK-20240725043000"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-VillaK-20240731193400-Andres-20240731154300"></span>Malle Rute juhtum on näide sellest, et tähelepanuväärne isik suri 2 kuud tagasi, surmakuulutus ilmus 31.mai Postimehes, kuid Vikipeedia järgi oli ta veel 2 kuud pärast surma elavate kirjas. <a href="/wiki/Kasutaja:VillaK" title="Kasutaja:VillaK">VillaK</a> (<a href="/wiki/Kasutaja_arutelu:VillaK" title="Kasutaja arutelu:VillaK">arutelu</a>) <a href="https://et.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vikipeedia:%C3%9Cldine_arutelu#c-VillaK-20240731193400-Andres-20240731154300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">31. juuli 2024, kell 22:34 (EEST)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-VillaK-20240731193400-Andres-20240731154300"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">vasta</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-VillaK-20240731193400-Andres-20240731154300"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Andres-20240801104800-VillaK-20240731193400"></span>Palun pane viide surmakuulutusele. <a href="/wiki/Kasutaja:Andres" title="Kasutaja:Andres">Andres</a> (<a href="/wiki/Kasutaja_arutelu:Andres" title="Kasutaja arutelu:Andres">arutelu</a>) <a href="https://et.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vikipeedia:%C3%9Cldine_arutelu#c-Andres-20240801104800-VillaK-20240731193400" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">1. august 2024, kell 13:48 (EEST)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Andres-20240801104800-VillaK-20240731193400"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">vasta</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Andres-20240801104800-VillaK-20240731193400"></span></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Andres-20240801105100-VillaK-20240731193400"></span>Kas surmakuulutuses oli ka kuupäev ja surmakoht? Palun pane ise viide. <a href="/wiki/Kasutaja:Andres" title="Kasutaja:Andres">Andres</a> (<a href="/wiki/Kasutaja_arutelu:Andres" title="Kasutaja arutelu:Andres">arutelu</a>) <a href="https://et.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vikipeedia:%C3%9Cldine_arutelu#c-Andres-20240801105100-VillaK-20240731193400" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">1. august 2024, kell 13:51 (EEST)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Andres-20240801105100-VillaK-20240731193400"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">vasta</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Andres-20240801105100-VillaK-20240731193400"></span></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Andres-20240802082300-VillaK-20240731193400"></span>Või keegi teine, kellel on juurdepääs allikale. --<a href="/wiki/Kasutaja:Andres" title="Kasutaja:Andres">Andres</a> (<a href="/wiki/Kasutaja_arutelu:Andres" title="Kasutaja arutelu:Andres">arutelu</a>) <a href="https://et.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vikipeedia:%C3%9Cldine_arutelu#c-Andres-20240802082300-VillaK-20240731193400" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">2. august 2024, kell 11:23 (EEST)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Andres-20240802082300-VillaK-20240731193400"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">vasta</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Andres-20240802082300-VillaK-20240731193400"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-VillaK-20240728191200-Velirand-20240724083800"></span>Eestikeelses Vikipeedias on praegu enam kui 250 artiklit, kus viidatakse Geni.com saidil avaldatud infole. --<a href="/wiki/Kasutaja:VillaK" title="Kasutaja:VillaK">VillaK</a> (<a href="/wiki/Kasutaja_arutelu:VillaK" title="Kasutaja arutelu:VillaK">arutelu</a>) <a href="https://et.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vikipeedia:%C3%9Cldine_arutelu#c-VillaK-20240728191200-Velirand-20240724083800" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">28. juuli 2024, kell 22:12 (EEST)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-VillaK-20240728191200-Velirand-20240724083800"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">vasta</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-VillaK-20240728191200-Velirand-20240724083800"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Wkentaur-20240729181700-VillaK-20240728191200"></span>Huvitav millise regulaarsusega ja milliste allikate põhjal Ester autoritele surma aasta lisab. <a rel="nofollow" class="external autonumber" href="https://www.ester.ee/search~S1*est?/aott/aott/1%2C1430%2C4241%2CB/exact&FF=aott+aadu+++++1940+++++2020+autor&1%2C8%2C">[2]</a> <a href="/wiki/Kasutaja:Wkentaur" title="Kasutaja:Wkentaur">Wkentaur</a> (<a href="/wiki/Kasutaja_arutelu:Wkentaur" title="Kasutaja arutelu:Wkentaur">arutelu</a>) <a href="https://et.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vikipeedia:%C3%9Cldine_arutelu#c-Wkentaur-20240729181700-VillaK-20240728191200" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">29. juuli 2024, kell 21:17 (EEST)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Wkentaur-20240729181700-VillaK-20240728191200"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">vasta</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Wkentaur-20240729181700-VillaK-20240728191200"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Kruusamägi-20240731222200-Andres-20240724072900"></span>Lisaks "anonüümsele kirjutajale" on muidugi ka võimalus, et saame info endale teada usalduväärselt inimeselt, kes lahkunut tundis ja palub Vikipeedias kirjasoleva tegelikkusega kooskõlla viia. Jääme siis ka viidet ootama? <a href="/wiki/Kasutaja:Kruusam%C3%A4gi" title="Kasutaja:Kruusamägi">Ivo</a> (<a href="/wiki/Kasutaja_arutelu:Kruusam%C3%A4gi" title="Kasutaja arutelu:Kruusamägi">arutelu</a>) <a href="https://et.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vikipeedia:%C3%9Cldine_arutelu#c-Kruusamägi-20240731222200-Andres-20240724072900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">1. august 2024, kell 01:22 (EEST)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Kruusamägi-20240731222200-Andres-20240724072900"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">vasta</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Kruusamägi-20240731222200-Andres-20240724072900"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Andres-20240801104500-Kruusamägi-20240731222200"></span>Kui mõni administraator või muu kasutaja, keda me usaldame, surmafakti teab ja selle kirja paneb, siis minu arvates on OK, aga viite ootamise märkus tuleb ikkagi panna.</dd> <dd>Minu meelest meie eesmärk on ikkagi tõde. Kui see nii ei ole, siis ei saa Vikipeedia olla usaldusväärne. Viidatavusest kinnihoidmine ei vii igal juhtumil suurema usaldusväärsuseni. --<a href="/wiki/Kasutaja:Andres" title="Kasutaja:Andres">Andres</a> (<a href="/wiki/Kasutaja_arutelu:Andres" title="Kasutaja arutelu:Andres">arutelu</a>) <a href="https://et.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vikipeedia:%C3%9Cldine_arutelu#c-Andres-20240801104500-Kruusamägi-20240731222200" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">1. august 2024, kell 13:45 (EEST)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Andres-20240801104500-Kruusamägi-20240731222200"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">vasta</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Andres-20240801104500-Kruusamägi-20240731222200"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Wkentaur-20240802043500-Andres-20240801104500"></span>lugeja jaoks peab olema arusaadav/läbipaistev tõe tekkimise protsess. (seda enam kui tegemist on kuupäevaliste või arvuliste andmetega) <a href="/wiki/Kasutaja:Wkentaur" title="Kasutaja:Wkentaur">Wkentaur</a> (<a href="/wiki/Kasutaja_arutelu:Wkentaur" title="Kasutaja arutelu:Wkentaur">arutelu</a>) <a href="https://et.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vikipeedia:%C3%9Cldine_arutelu#c-Wkentaur-20240802043500-Andres-20240801104500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">2. august 2024, kell 07:35 (EEST)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Wkentaur-20240802043500-Andres-20240801104500"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">vasta</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Wkentaur-20240802043500-Andres-20240801104500"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Andres-20240802082100-Wkentaur-20240802043500"></span>Seda saab näidata ka teisiti kui usaldusväärsetele allikatele viidates. --<a href="/wiki/Kasutaja:Andres" title="Kasutaja:Andres">Andres</a> (<a href="/wiki/Kasutaja_arutelu:Andres" title="Kasutaja arutelu:Andres">arutelu</a>) <a href="https://et.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vikipeedia:%C3%9Cldine_arutelu#c-Andres-20240802082100-Wkentaur-20240802043500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">2. august 2024, kell 11:21 (EEST)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Andres-20240802082100-Wkentaur-20240802043500"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">vasta</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Andres-20240802082100-Wkentaur-20240802043500"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Mardus-20240917055300-Andres-20240724072900"></span>Saab alati vaadata <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.kalmistud.ee">www.kalmistud.ee</a> registrist, <i>kui</i> inimene on maetud mõnes Eestis asuvas kalmistus. -<span style="text-shadow:7px 5px 7px #409fff;"><a href="/wiki/Kasutaja:Mardus" title="Kasutaja:Mardus">Mardus</a> <small>/<a href="/wiki/Kasutaja_arutelu:Mardus" title="Kasutaja arutelu:Mardus"><span style="color:black">arutelu</span></a></small></span> <a href="https://et.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vikipeedia:%C3%9Cldine_arutelu#c-Mardus-20240917055300-Andres-20240724072900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17. september 2024, kell 08:53 (EEST)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Mardus-20240917055300-Andres-20240724072900"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">vasta</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Mardus-20240917055300-Andres-20240724072900"></span></li></ul> <hr/> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Pietadè-20240801110200-Surma_tõendamine"></span>Egas see/asi nii hull ka ole, mina ise, nt, olen (kui meediat uskuda) juba üle 70 aasta surnud, ja, tegin eelmisel aastal ka soovahetuse läbi...<br/>Mis on TÕDE, ja, kus(t) seda jagatakse, ja kui pikk see ootejärjekord on (kuudes, aastates, sajandites, aastatuhandetes jne)?<a href="/wiki/Kasutaja:Pietad%C3%A8" title="Kasutaja:Pietadè"><span style="color:#146E2C;"> ☆☆☆ —</span> Pietadè</a> <a href="https://et.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vikipeedia:%C3%9Cldine_arutelu#c-Pietadè-20240801110200-Surma_tõendamine" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">1. august 2024, kell 14:02 (EEST)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Pietadè-20240801110200-Surma_tõendamine"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">vasta</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Pietadè-20240801110200-Surma_tõendamine"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Commonsi_teemadel" data-mw-thread-id="h-Commonsi_teemadel-20240901094900"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Commonsi_teemadel-20240901094900"></span>Commonsi teemadel<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Commonsi_teemadel-20240901094900"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Vikipeedia:%C3%9Cldine_arutelu&action=edit&section=4" title="Muuda alaosa "Commonsi teemadel" lähteteksti"><span>muuda lähteteksti</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Kruusamägi-20240901094900-Commonsi_teemadel"></span>Üks kustutamishuviline Commonsi kaastööline on nomineerinud kustutamisele mitmeid Eesti pilte. Seesugune tegevus on äärmiselt probleeme mitmel põhjusel ja ega Commonsile ei anna mingit kasu ka piltide hulga vähendamine. Küll aga uurin, et ega juhtumisi ei sooviks keegi mõne järgnevas loetelus oleva isiku kohta vikiartiklite teha. Mõned neist on tuntumad, teised vähemtuntud. Korralik portreefoto on kõigist. <a href="/wiki/Kasutaja:Kruusam%C3%A4gi" title="Kasutaja:Kruusamägi">Ivo</a> (<a href="/wiki/Kasutaja_arutelu:Kruusam%C3%A4gi" title="Kasutaja arutelu:Kruusamägi">arutelu</a>) <a href="https://et.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vikipeedia:%C3%9Cldine_arutelu#c-Kruusamägi-20240901094900-Commonsi_teemadel" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">1. september 2024, kell 12:49 (EEST)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Kruusamägi-20240901094900-Commonsi_teemadel"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">vasta</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Kruusamägi-20240901094900-Commonsi_teemadel"></span> </p> <ul><li><a href="/wiki/Fail:Agu_Remmelg_majandustegelane_99.jpg" title="Fail:Agu Remmelg majandustegelane 99.jpg"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Kruusamägi-20240901094900-Commonsi_teemadel-1"></span>File:Agu Remmelg majandustegelane 99.jpg</a></li> <li><a href="/wiki/Fail:Ahti_Kallaste_riigiametnik_99.jpg" title="Fail:Ahti Kallaste riigiametnik 99.jpg">File:Ahti Kallaste riigiametnik 99.jpg</a></li> <li><a href="/wiki/Fail:Annika_Tallo_sotsioloog_99.jpg" title="Fail:Annika Tallo sotsioloog 99.jpg">File:Annika Tallo sotsioloog 99.jpg</a></li> <li><a href="/wiki/Fail:Erik_Loide_N%C3%A4gemispuuetega_Inimeste_Fondi_asutaja_99.jpg" title="Fail:Erik Loide Nägemispuuetega Inimeste Fondi asutaja 99.jpg">File:Erik Loide Nägemispuuetega Inimeste Fondi asutaja 99.jpg</a></li> <li><a href="/wiki/Fail:Ivo_Mahhov_advokaat_99.jpg" title="Fail:Ivo Mahhov advokaat 99.jpg">File:Ivo Mahhov advokaat 99.jpg</a></li> <li><a href="/wiki/Fail:Kalle_Pedak_jurist_99.jpg" title="Fail:Kalle Pedak jurist 99.jpg">File:Kalle Pedak jurist 99.jpg</a></li> <li><a href="/wiki/Fail:Koit_Uus_investor_99.jpg" title="Fail:Koit Uus investor 99.jpg">File:Koit Uus investor 99.jpg</a></li> <li><a href="/wiki/Fail:Kristjan_Rebane_MT%C3%9C_tegelane_99.jpg" title="Fail:Kristjan Rebane MTÜ tegelane 99.jpg">File:Kristjan Rebane MTÜ tegelane 99.jpg</a></li> <li><a href="/wiki/Fail:Madis_Kallion_jurist_99.jpg" title="Fail:Madis Kallion jurist 99.jpg">File:Madis Kallion jurist 99.jpg</a></li> <li><a href="/wiki/Fail:Mart_Missik_vandeadvokaat_99.jpg" title="Fail:Mart Missik vandeadvokaat 99.jpg">File:Mart Missik vandeadvokaat 99.jpg</a></li> <li><a href="/wiki/Fail:Olavi_K%C3%A4rsna_koolitaja_99.jpg" title="Fail:Olavi Kärsna koolitaja 99.jpg">File:Olavi Kärsna koolitaja 99.jpg</a></li> <li><a href="/wiki/Fail:Priit_M%C3%A4nnik_jurist_99.jpg" title="Fail:Priit Männik jurist 99.jpg">File:Priit Männik jurist 99.jpg</a></li> <li><a href="/wiki/Fail:Riho_R%C3%B5%C3%B5mus_riigiametnik_99.jpg" title="Fail:Riho Rõõmus riigiametnik 99.jpg">File:Riho Rõõmus riigiametnik 99.jpg</a></li> <li><a href="/wiki/Fail:Tarmo_Lepp_kirikutegelane_99.jpg" title="Fail:Tarmo Lepp kirikutegelane 99.jpg">File:Tarmo Lepp kirikutegelane 99.jpg</a></li> <li><a href="/wiki/Fail:Toomas_Mang_m%C3%B6%C3%B6blit%C3%B6%C3%B6stur_99.jpg" title="Fail:Toomas Mang mööblitööstur 99.jpg">File:Toomas Mang mööblitööstur 99.jpg</a></li> <li><a href="/wiki/Fail:T%C3%B5nu_Naestema_riigiametnik_99.jpg" title="Fail:Tõnu Naestema riigiametnik 99.jpg">File:Tõnu Naestema riigiametnik 99.jpg</a></li> <li><a href="/wiki/Fail:Uno_Silberg_majandusteadlane_98.jpg" title="Fail:Uno Silberg majandusteadlane 98.jpg">File:Uno Silberg majandusteadlane 98.jpg</a></li> <li><a href="/wiki/Fail:Urmas_Tamm_omavalitsustegelane_99.jpg" title="Fail:Urmas Tamm omavalitsustegelane 99.jpg">File:Urmas Tamm omavalitsustegelane 99.jpg</a></li> <li><a href="/wiki/Fail:Vahur_Lokk_konsultant_99.jpg" title="Fail:Vahur Lokk konsultant 99.jpg">File:Vahur Lokk konsultant 99.jpg</a></li> <li><a href="/wiki/Fail:Andres_Haamer_ettev%C3%B5tja_99.jpg" title="Fail:Andres Haamer ettevõtja 99.jpg">File:Andres Haamer ettevõtja 99.jpg</a></li> <li><a href="/wiki/Fail:Jasper_Zoova,_kunstnik_99.jpg" title="Fail:Jasper Zoova, kunstnik 99.jpg">File:Jasper Zoova, kunstnik 99.jpg</a></li> <li><a href="/wiki/Fail:Margus_Kurm_prokur%C3%B6r_99.jpg" title="Fail:Margus Kurm prokurör 99.jpg">File:Margus Kurm prokurör 99.jpg</a></li> <li><a href="/wiki/Fail:Riho_Soonik_sporditegelane_99.jpg" title="Fail:Riho Soonik sporditegelane 99.jpg">File:Riho Soonik sporditegelane 99.jpg</a></li> <li><a href="/wiki/Fail:Toomas_Sepp_jurist_99.jpg" title="Fail:Toomas Sepp jurist 99.jpg">File:Toomas Sepp jurist 99.jpg</a></li> <li><a href="/wiki/Fail:Urmas_Kaarlep_audiitor_99.jpg" title="Fail:Urmas Kaarlep audiitor 99.jpg">File:Urmas Kaarlep audiitor 99.jpg</a></li></ul> <p><a href="/wiki/Kasutaja:Kruusam%C3%A4gi" title="Kasutaja:Kruusamägi">Ivo</a> (<a href="/wiki/Kasutaja_arutelu:Kruusam%C3%A4gi" title="Kasutaja arutelu:Kruusamägi">arutelu</a>) <a href="https://et.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vikipeedia:%C3%9Cldine_arutelu#c-Kruusamägi-20240901094900-Commonsi_teemadel-1" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">1. september 2024, kell 12:49 (EEST)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Kruusamägi-20240901094900-Commonsi_teemadel-1"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">vasta</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Kruusamägi-20240901094900-Commonsi_teemadel-1"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Estopedist1-20240901155800-Kruusamägi-20240901094900"></span>@<a href="/wiki/Kasutaja:Kruusam%C3%A4gi" title="Kasutaja:Kruusamägi">Kruusamägi</a>: igaks juhuks märgin, et toda Commonsi kustutamisarutelu ajendas ilmselt minu Commonsi kaks kategooriat:</dd> <dd><a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Women_of_Estonia_(not_notable)" class="extiw" title="commons:Category:Women of Estonia (not notable)">Commons:Category:Women of Estonia (not notable)</a></dd> <dd><a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Men_of_Estonia_(not_notable)" class="extiw" title="commons:Category:Men of Estonia (not notable)">Commons:Category:Men of Estonia (not notable)</a></dd> <dd>Kui pilt on kasutusel Wikidatas või mujal Vikiprojektis, see nende kustutamist ei pea kartma. Kahe eelmainitud "not-notable"-kategooria piltide kustutamist on aga raske kaitsta, sest minu põgus vaatlus näitas, et need isikud pole tähelepanuväärsed. <a href="/wiki/Kasutaja:Estopedist1" title="Kasutaja:Estopedist1">Estopedist1</a> (<a href="/wiki/Kasutaja_arutelu:Estopedist1" title="Kasutaja arutelu:Estopedist1">arutelu</a>) <a href="https://et.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vikipeedia:%C3%9Cldine_arutelu#c-Estopedist1-20240901155800-Kruusamägi-20240901094900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">1. september 2024, kell 18:58 (EEST)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Estopedist1-20240901155800-Kruusamägi-20240901094900"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">vasta</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Estopedist1-20240901155800-Kruusamägi-20240901094900"></span></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Kruusamägi-20240901163600-Estopedist1-20240901155800"></span>On täiesti põhjendamatu ja selgelt kahjulik kustutada mistahes artiklites kasutamata pilte, mille puhul ei ole selgeid kvaliteedi- või autoriõiguslikke probleeme. Toon näite: meil ei ole vaja vorpida vikiartikleid Eesti bussipeatustest, aga pole mingit adekvaatset põhjust mitte korjata Commonsisse fotosid Eesti bussipeatustest. Nõuda aga, et pilt peaks olema kasutuses, on reeglite väär tõlgendamine ja selgelt vastuolus sellega, et mida me vikiprojekte tehes saavutada püüame.</dd> <dd>Antud kasutajat on varasemalt ka blokeeritud mittetarvilike kustutamisnominatsioonide esitamise eest ja tegelikult tuleks ta lõplikult ära blokeerida, sest õppust ta võtnud pole ja neid probleeme on olnud väga palju. <a href="/wiki/Kasutaja:Kruusam%C3%A4gi" title="Kasutaja:Kruusamägi">Ivo</a> (<a href="/wiki/Kasutaja_arutelu:Kruusam%C3%A4gi" title="Kasutaja arutelu:Kruusamägi">arutelu</a>) <a href="https://et.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vikipeedia:%C3%9Cldine_arutelu#c-Kruusamägi-20240901163600-Estopedist1-20240901155800" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">1. september 2024, kell 19:36 (EEST)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Kruusamägi-20240901163600-Estopedist1-20240901155800"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">vasta</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Kruusamägi-20240901163600-Estopedist1-20240901155800"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Estopedist1-20240902061600-Kruusamägi-20240901163600"></span>@<a href="/wiki/Kasutaja:Kruusam%C3%A4gi" title="Kasutaja:Kruusamägi">Kruusamägi</a>: isikutest pildid ja bussipeatustest pildid pole hästi võrreldavad, sest viimased on vajalikud Foo küla kirjeldamiseks ja seega omavad hariduslikku eesmärki. Mittetähelepanuväärsed isikutest pildid kustutatakse näiteks põhjusel "Unused personal photo or photo about not notable person, <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/COM:WEBHOST" class="extiw" title="commons:COM:WEBHOST">Commons:COM:WEBHOST</a>. Out of <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/COM:SCOPE" class="extiw" title="commons:COM:SCOPE">project scope</a>." <a href="/wiki/Kasutaja:Estopedist1" title="Kasutaja:Estopedist1">Estopedist1</a> (<a href="/wiki/Kasutaja_arutelu:Estopedist1" title="Kasutaja arutelu:Estopedist1">arutelu</a>) <a href="https://et.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vikipeedia:%C3%9Cldine_arutelu#c-Estopedist1-20240902061600-Kruusamägi-20240901163600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">2. september 2024, kell 09:16 (EEST)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Estopedist1-20240902061600-Kruusamägi-20240901163600"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">vasta</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Estopedist1-20240902061600-Kruusamägi-20240901163600"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Kruusamägi-20240902084300-Estopedist1-20240902061600"></span>Ka sul endal on seal kategooriates pilte isikutest, kelle kohta tegelikult peaks meil artikkel olema, ja pilte, mida tegelikult artiklites kasutatakse. Ehk isegi ühe eestlase valikud on kergesti vaidlustatavad. On aga mõeldamatu, et mingi välismaalane hakkab hindama, kes on Eesti inimestest tähelepanuväärsed ja kes mitte. Samuti on lubamatu pilte seal moel kustutada.</dd> <dd>Ja kuidas täpselt need pildid ette jäävad? Foto ei ole artikkel. Mis kasu sellest kustutamisest saab? (see ei hoia kokku isegi serveriruumi, sest ka kustutatud sisu säilitatakse jätkuvalt). Absoluutselt ei mingit kasu. Ainult aega kulub arutult palju ja fotograafid vihastatakse põhjalikult välja.</dd> <dd>Sinna "Men of Estonia (not notable)" kategooriasse oled lisanud ka faile nagu <a href="/wiki/Fail:Vanavarakorjajad_stud._med._Paul_Ruus_ja_stud._med._Hans_Karro,_Saaremaa_1913.jpg" title="Fail:Vanavarakorjajad stud. med. Paul Ruus ja stud. med. Hans Karro, Saaremaa 1913.jpg">see</a>. Mõtle nüüd palun ise edasi, et mis on valesti. Või kuidas on sajandi pärast tänased pildid samamoodi ajaloolised ülevõtted, kus inimese enda kohta käiv artikkel või selle puudumine pole enam teemaks (nt annavad pildid edasi infot ajastu moest). <a href="/wiki/Kasutaja:Kruusam%C3%A4gi" title="Kasutaja:Kruusamägi">Ivo</a> (<a href="/wiki/Kasutaja_arutelu:Kruusam%C3%A4gi" title="Kasutaja arutelu:Kruusamägi">arutelu</a>) <a href="https://et.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vikipeedia:%C3%9Cldine_arutelu#c-Kruusamägi-20240902084300-Estopedist1-20240902061600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">2. september 2024, kell 11:43 (EEST)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Kruusamägi-20240902084300-Estopedist1-20240902061600"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">vasta</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Kruusamägi-20240902084300-Estopedist1-20240902061600"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Sillerkiil-20240902145900-Kruusamägi-20240902084300"></span>Mu jaoks jääb kah see massiline kustutamisvajadus arusaamatuks. Eesti kontekstis omas ajas olulised tegelased, keda on peetud vajalikuks omal ajal vastavasse raamatussegi talletada. Pisut teine lugu oleks ehk siis, kui mõni pildistatu sooviks kustutamist.</dd> <dd>Ivo repliik demotiveerimise kohta peab samuti paika, iga selline jäädvustise hävitamine võtab mul isiklikult igasuguse isu isikuid ja objekte või nähtusi pildistada või filmida, kujutist töödelda, üles laadida. Algselt lähtusin eeldusest, et me artiklid võiks olla võimalikult hästi illustreeritud, eriti veel juhul, kui kirjeldatakse midagi kohalikku, seda enda ja muu ilma rahvale hästi ja mitmekülgselt lahti rääkida, kujutada. Aga oma nappi aega kulutada millelegi, mis siis jälle maha kistakse, ei motiveeri eriti. <a href="/wiki/Kasutaja:Sillerkiil" title="Kasutaja:Sillerkiil">Sillerkiil</a> (<a href="/wiki/Kasutaja_arutelu:Sillerkiil" title="Kasutaja arutelu:Sillerkiil">arutelu</a>) <a href="https://et.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vikipeedia:%C3%9Cldine_arutelu#c-Sillerkiil-20240902145900-Kruusamägi-20240902084300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">2. september 2024, kell 17:59 (EEST)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Sillerkiil-20240902145900-Kruusamägi-20240902084300"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">vasta</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Sillerkiil-20240902145900-Kruusamägi-20240902084300"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-VillaK-20240902190400-Sillerkiil-20240902145900"></span>Mulle paistab samuti, et see fotode kustutamise kibelus on mingi veider eneserahuldamise vorm. Nagu oleks vähe sellist sodi, mida tegelikult kustutama peaks. <a href="/wiki/Kasutaja:VillaK" title="Kasutaja:VillaK">VillaK</a> (<a href="/wiki/Kasutaja_arutelu:VillaK" title="Kasutaja arutelu:VillaK">arutelu</a>) <a href="https://et.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vikipeedia:%C3%9Cldine_arutelu#c-VillaK-20240902190400-Sillerkiil-20240902145900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">2. september 2024, kell 22:04 (EEST)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-VillaK-20240902190400-Sillerkiil-20240902145900"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">vasta</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-VillaK-20240902190400-Sillerkiil-20240902145900"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Adamant1-20240903125700-VillaK-20240902190400"></span>Hi. Wow, such a pleasant group of people here. Really fine attitudes. Anyway, I'm not going to get in the weeds about the personal aspects of this but I wanted let everyone here know I told Estopedist1 in the DR that I am happy to remove any images from the DR if or when someone on your end creates an article for them. Just ping me or leave a message about it in the deletion request. I have absolutely no problem doing that.</dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd>As Estopedist1 has pointed out though, and as I think I said several times myself in the deletion request, unused personal photos or photos about non-notable people are routinely deleted on Commons. So just making this about me and acting like it's all due to me being bitter because I have no sex life or whatever probably isn't going to be the best way to for the images to be kept. It would be much better to save the petty condescending about my sex life and just create articles for the people. Again, let me know if or any of you do that and I'll remove the image for those people from the deletion request. Thanks. --<a href="/w/index.php?title=Kasutaja:Adamant1&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Kasutaja:Adamant1 (pole veel kirjutatud)">Adamant1</a> (<a href="/wiki/Kasutaja_arutelu:Adamant1" title="Kasutaja arutelu:Adamant1">arutelu</a>) <a href="https://et.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vikipeedia:%C3%9Cldine_arutelu#c-Adamant1-20240903125700-VillaK-20240902190400" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">3. september 2024, kell 15:57 (EEST)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Adamant1-20240903125700-VillaK-20240902190400"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">vasta</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Adamant1-20240903125700-VillaK-20240902190400"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Wkentaur-20240903131900-Adamant1-20240903125700"></span>So if one wants to record hair styles used in Estonia across different decades, then the recorder is only allowed to picture heads of notable people? <a href="/wiki/Kasutaja:Wkentaur" title="Kasutaja:Wkentaur">Wkentaur</a> (<a href="/wiki/Kasutaja_arutelu:Wkentaur" title="Kasutaja arutelu:Wkentaur">arutelu</a>) <a href="https://et.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vikipeedia:%C3%9Cldine_arutelu#c-Wkentaur-20240903131900-Adamant1-20240903125700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">3. september 2024, kell 16:19 (EEST)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Wkentaur-20240903131900-Adamant1-20240903125700"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">vasta</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Wkentaur-20240903131900-Adamant1-20240903125700"></span> <dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><a href="/wiki/Kasutaja:Wkentaur" title="Kasutaja:Wkentaur"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Adamant1-20240903211100-Wkentaur-20240903131900"></span>Wkentaur</a>,</span> No. They can also be pictures of non-notable people as long as the images are historically meaningful. The problem comes in when people upload a ton of images otherwise meaningless images of modern portraits and they try to argue they are educational simply because it's an image of a person. There has to be more then that for something to be educational. In this case I assume these particular images would be restored in 60 or 70 years due to their historical meaning, you can't just say anything taken in the last 20 years is de-facto educational <i>right now</i> due to the historical value it might have in the future though. Of course people are free to disagree on the historical importance of any given case and I'm not claiming there's a bright line there about what is or isn't historically important in any instance. But modern portraits of non-notable people due to tend to get deleted as out of scope pretty regularly on Commons. --<a href="/w/index.php?title=Kasutaja:Adamant1&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Kasutaja:Adamant1 (pole veel kirjutatud)">Adamant1</a> (<a href="/wiki/Kasutaja_arutelu:Adamant1" title="Kasutaja arutelu:Adamant1">arutelu</a>) <a href="https://et.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vikipeedia:%C3%9Cldine_arutelu#c-Adamant1-20240903211100-Wkentaur-20240903131900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">4. september 2024, kell 00:11 (EEST)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Adamant1-20240903211100-Wkentaur-20240903131900"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">vasta</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Adamant1-20240903211100-Wkentaur-20240903131900"></span></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Nakonana-20240903145900-Wkentaur-20240903131900"></span>Yes, one reason why we know so little about the everyday life of peasants in the medieval ages is because they were deemed not notable enough to be documented by painters. It's a shame. It's kind of sad that Commons policy does not take that into account and to some degree insists on notability (even if the notability bar is lower than on En Wiki). I'd say, as long as the images are of good quality, one should at least consider to keep them. <a href="/w/index.php?title=Kasutaja:Nakonana&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Kasutaja:Nakonana (pole veel kirjutatud)">Nakonana</a> (<a href="/w/index.php?title=Kasutaja_arutelu:Nakonana&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Kasutaja arutelu:Nakonana (pole veel kirjutatud)">arutelu</a>) <a href="https://et.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vikipeedia:%C3%9Cldine_arutelu#c-Nakonana-20240903145900-Wkentaur-20240903131900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">3. september 2024, kell 17:59 (EEST)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Nakonana-20240903145900-Wkentaur-20240903131900"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">vasta</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Nakonana-20240903145900-Wkentaur-20240903131900"></span> <dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><a href="/w/index.php?title=Kasutaja:Nakonana&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Kasutaja:Nakonana (pole veel kirjutatud)"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Adamant1-20240903220000-Nakonana-20240903145900"></span>Nakonana</a>,</span> Just between you and me I've never been a huge fan of the whole "educational" standard for what should be included on Commons myself. Since it's clearly ambagious and depends on people's personal opinions at any given time. It was it is though. I can see the merits of deleting images of otherwise ordinary modern subjects until they become historical important though. At least based on how the guideline is currently phrased. Personally I'd love to see the project become more inclusionary when it comes to a lot of that stuff myself, but on the other hand people upload a lot of promotional material of modern subjects that clearly isn't educational.</dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd>So there should be some kind of standard. Otherwise you risk the project becoming a dumping ground for spam due to the circular reasoning that any image is inherently notable simply for being an image. That really wouldn't be a sustainable way to do things. Even if it would allow for these types of images more. But again, I do think they could improve the standard to be more inclusionary in a lot of instances. It's always hard on my end as someone who deals with spam pretty regularly to know where exactly the line is or should be, but I trust the process and I'm strongly under the belief that no images will get deleted unless there's a valid reason. --<a href="/w/index.php?title=Kasutaja:Adamant1&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Kasutaja:Adamant1 (pole veel kirjutatud)">Adamant1</a> (<a href="/wiki/Kasutaja_arutelu:Adamant1" title="Kasutaja arutelu:Adamant1">arutelu</a>) <a href="https://et.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vikipeedia:%C3%9Cldine_arutelu#c-Adamant1-20240903220000-Nakonana-20240903145900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">4. september 2024, kell 01:00 (EEST)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Adamant1-20240903220000-Nakonana-20240903145900"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">vasta</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Adamant1-20240903220000-Nakonana-20240903145900"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-VillaK-20240903191900-Adamant1-20240903125700"></span>Hi, Adamant1ǃ Absolutely no reason to ping here about your sex life, as I am confident there is nobody here whois interested about it. However, as you can see there is a group of Estonian wikipedians who care about these photos. I accept that your reference to your sex life may be either due to your language deficiency or the use of deficient machine translation. I linked the poor judgement to delete the photos of notable Estonian persons to a strange form of self-satisfaction. According to Cambridge Dictionary <a rel="nofollow" class="external autonumber" href="https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/self-satisfaction">[3]</a>, self-satisfaction means "the quality of being very pleased with yourself and accepting no criticism of yourself." I made this link based on what I read you claimed about yourself in this discussion <a class="external autonumber" href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Deletion_requests/Files_in_Category:Portreed_raamatusse_%E2%80%9CKes_on_Kes%3F_Eesti_2000%E2%80%9D._Ekspresskataloogide_AS">[4]</a>ː "I think it's perfectly appropriate for me to nominate these images for deletion even if they are being used. Since I am a pretty heavy editor on both projects and a lot of my time on them is spent working in areas directly related to the subjects of the images. So I am more then qualified to say if something is promotional and/or belongs on Commons and Wikidata." Sorry to be blunt, but this is highly ridiculous selfishness, which disqualifies you from being taken seriously. Apparently you have now changed your mind and claim that you are willing to lift the deletion request if articles about listed persons quickly appear while just a few days ago you insisted that the images shall be deleted even if they are being used. Sorry, but it appears you are not able to express your thoughts and arguments clearly and consistently. I think you would do justice to yourself if you refrain from futher discussion on this matter. Cheersǃ <a href="/wiki/Kasutaja:VillaK" title="Kasutaja:VillaK">VillaK</a> (<a href="/wiki/Kasutaja_arutelu:VillaK" title="Kasutaja arutelu:VillaK">arutelu</a>) <a href="https://et.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vikipeedia:%C3%9Cldine_arutelu#c-VillaK-20240903191900-Adamant1-20240903125700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">3. september 2024, kell 22:19 (EEST)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-VillaK-20240903191900-Adamant1-20240903125700"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">vasta</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-VillaK-20240903191900-Adamant1-20240903125700"></span> <dl><dd><span class="inline-quote-talk" style="font-family: Georgia, 'DejaVu Serif', serif; color: #008560;"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Adamant1-20240903210400-VillaK-20240903191900"></span>Absolutely no reason to ping here about your sex life, as I am confident there is nobody here whois interested about it.</span> <span class="template-ping"><a href="/wiki/Kasutaja:VillaK" title="Kasutaja:VillaK">VillaK</a>,</span> I don't remember the exact comment now, but the reason I brought up the thing with my sex life is because someone in the discussion on Commons went off about how I'm probably doing this out of anger because I don't have a girlfriend or some nonsense. So there certainly does seem to be people who are interested in that.</dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><span class="inline-quote-talk" style="font-family: Georgia, 'DejaVu Serif', serif; color: #008560;">This is highly ridiculous selfishness, which disqualifies you from being taken seriously.</span> That comment right there is a perfect example of what I'm talking about. As I said on Commons, there are instances where it's fine to nominate files for deletion if they are being used on Wikidata and Wikipedia as long as the person doing it has experience on those projects and a valid justification for doing so. Of course it's not a simple matter and there's no bright line there, but it's still totally within my right to nominate in use files for deletion if I think there's a valid reason to. I'm sorry that you find me following the guidelines selfish though.</dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><span class="inline-quote-talk" style="font-family: Georgia, 'DejaVu Serif', serif; color: #008560;">Apparently you have now changed your mind and claim that you are willing to lift the deletion request if articles about listed persons quickly appear</span> In no way did I change my mind about anything. I removed multiple images from the deletion request that were in use on Wikipedia right after I started it and realized the mistake. There's no hurry here either. I could really care less if it takes some time to create articles for the people. The deletion request isn't going anywhere. I am fine with removing any images from the deletion request if or when they end up being used though. Personally, I'd think that was a good thing, apparently not though. Go figure. --<a href="/w/index.php?title=Kasutaja:Adamant1&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Kasutaja:Adamant1 (pole veel kirjutatud)">Adamant1</a> (<a href="/wiki/Kasutaja_arutelu:Adamant1" title="Kasutaja arutelu:Adamant1">arutelu</a>) <a href="https://et.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vikipeedia:%C3%9Cldine_arutelu#c-Adamant1-20240903210400-VillaK-20240903191900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">4. september 2024, kell 00:04 (EEST)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Adamant1-20240903210400-VillaK-20240903191900"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">vasta</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Adamant1-20240903210400-VillaK-20240903191900"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <hr/> <p><a href="/wiki/Kasutaja:Morel" title="Kasutaja:Morel"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Estopedist1-20240905112200-Commonsi_teemadel"></span>kasutaja:Morel</a> tahab konkreetseid argumente toomata kustutada Commonsi konteinerkategooriad: </p> <dl><dd><a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Women_of_Estonia_(not_notable)" class="extiw" title="commons:Category:Women of Estonia (not notable)">Commons:Category:Women of Estonia (not notable)</a></dd> <dd><a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Men_of_Estonia_(not_notable)" class="extiw" title="commons:Category:Men of Estonia (not notable)">Commons:Category:Men of Estonia (not notable)</a></dd></dl> <p>Need kategooriad on tekitatud pärast kõikide Commonsis olevate Eestiga seotud isikute analüüsi. Tähelepanuväärsed isikud on automaatselt (Wikidata kaudu) koondatud siia: <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Women_of_Estonia_by_name" class="extiw" title="commons:Category:Women of Estonia by name">Commons:Category:Women of Estonia by name</a> ja <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Men_of_Estonia_by_name" class="extiw" title="commons:Category:Men of Estonia by name">Commons:Category:Men of Estonia by name</a>. Iga isikujuhtumit tuleb eraldi vaadata, et kindlaks teha tähelepanuväärsus. </p><p>Eelmainitud kahe kategooria suur eelis on see, et näiteks võimaldab välja noppida potentsiaalselt mitte tähelepanuväärsed isikud olulistest isikutest Commonsi paljupildilistest kategooriatest, nt <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Musicians_from_Estonia" class="extiw" title="commons:Category:Musicians from Estonia">Commons: Category:Musicians from Estonia</a> </p><p><b>Kõrvalmärkus</b>: üks võimalus näiteks <a href="/wiki/Kasutaja:Sillerkiil" title="Kasutaja:Sillerkiil">kasutaja:Sillerkiili</a> Arvamusfestivali isikupiltide hoidmiseks (kes pole tähelepanuväärsed) oleks teha kategooria a la “Participants of Opinion Festival 2022”, ja säärased mittetähelepanuväärsed isikud tuleks välja rookida sisukategooriatest, nt “<a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Literature_researchers_from_Estonia" class="extiw" title="commons:Category:Literature researchers from Estonia">Commons:Category:Literature researchers from Estonia</a>” –<a href="/wiki/Kasutaja:Estopedist1" title="Kasutaja:Estopedist1">Estopedist1</a> (<a href="/wiki/Kasutaja_arutelu:Estopedist1" title="Kasutaja arutelu:Estopedist1">arutelu</a>) <a href="https://et.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vikipeedia:%C3%9Cldine_arutelu#c-Estopedist1-20240905112200-Commonsi_teemadel" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">5. september 2024, kell 14:22 (EEST)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Estopedist1-20240905112200-Commonsi_teemadel"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">vasta</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Estopedist1-20240905112200-Commonsi_teemadel"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Kruusamägi-20240905122100-Estopedist1-20240905112200"></span>Mitu inimest on juhtinud tähelepanu, et "Women of Estonia (not notable)" ja "Men of Estonia (not notable)" on kategooriateks sobimatud.</dd> <dd>Ei ole mingit probleemi selles, kui kategooriates nagu "Literature researchers from Estonia" on ka fotosid inimestest, kellest pole artikleid. Olulisemate inimeste puhul on niikuinii olemas isikukategooriad.</dd> <dd>On olemas kategooriad nagu "<a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Arvamusfestival_2022" class="extiw" title="commons:Category:Arvamusfestival 2022">Arvamusfestival 2022</a>". Ei ole mingit vajadust neid täiendavalt jupitada. <a href="/wiki/Kasutaja:Kruusam%C3%A4gi" title="Kasutaja:Kruusamägi">Ivo</a> (<a href="/wiki/Kasutaja_arutelu:Kruusam%C3%A4gi" title="Kasutaja arutelu:Kruusamägi">arutelu</a>) <a href="https://et.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vikipeedia:%C3%9Cldine_arutelu#c-Kruusamägi-20240905122100-Estopedist1-20240905112200" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">5. september 2024, kell 15:21 (EEST)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Kruusamägi-20240905122100-Estopedist1-20240905112200"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">vasta</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Kruusamägi-20240905122100-Estopedist1-20240905112200"></span></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Nakonana-20240905143600-Estopedist1-20240905112200"></span>If there would be a deletion nomination (which currently doesn't appear to be the case), you'll probably need to provide reasons why where should be such categories for non-notable Estonians when there are no such categories for countries even as big as the USA. There are likely more photos of non-notable US people than Estonian people, and yet they are not organized in separate categories. <a href="/w/index.php?title=Kasutaja:Nakonana&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Kasutaja:Nakonana (pole veel kirjutatud)">Nakonana</a> (<a href="/w/index.php?title=Kasutaja_arutelu:Nakonana&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Kasutaja arutelu:Nakonana (pole veel kirjutatud)">arutelu</a>) <a href="https://et.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vikipeedia:%C3%9Cldine_arutelu#c-Nakonana-20240905143600-Estopedist1-20240905112200" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">5. september 2024, kell 17:36 (EEST)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Nakonana-20240905143600-Estopedist1-20240905112200"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">vasta</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Nakonana-20240905143600-Estopedist1-20240905112200"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Neptuunium-20240905144000-Nakonana-20240905143600"></span>Agreed. These categories need to be deleted for reasons listed both by Nakonana and Kruusamägi. - <span style="background:#444;padding:2px 12px;font-size:12px"><a href="/wiki/Kasutaja:Neptuunium" title="Kasutaja:Neptuunium"><span style="color:#fff">Neptuunium</span></a> <span style="color:#FC0">❯❯❯</span> <a href="/wiki/Kasutaja_arutelu:Neptuunium" title="Kasutaja arutelu:Neptuunium"><span style="color:#fff">arutelu</span></a></span> <a href="https://et.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vikipeedia:%C3%9Cldine_arutelu#c-Neptuunium-20240905144000-Nakonana-20240905143600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">5. september 2024, kell 17:40 (EEST)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Neptuunium-20240905144000-Nakonana-20240905143600"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">vasta</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Neptuunium-20240905144000-Nakonana-20240905143600"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-VillaK-20240905194200-Neptuunium-20240905144000"></span>I concur. Such categories should not have been created in the first place. Their deletion does not need any additional justification apart from merely taking note that they deviate from the regular practice. <a href="/wiki/Kasutaja:VillaK" title="Kasutaja:VillaK">VillaK</a> (<a href="/wiki/Kasutaja_arutelu:VillaK" title="Kasutaja arutelu:VillaK">arutelu</a>) <a href="https://et.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vikipeedia:%C3%9Cldine_arutelu#c-VillaK-20240905194200-Neptuunium-20240905144000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">5. september 2024, kell 22:42 (EEST)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-VillaK-20240905194200-Neptuunium-20240905144000"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">vasta</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-VillaK-20240905194200-Neptuunium-20240905144000"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-VillaK-20240906060900-Estopedist1-20240905112200"></span>PS. Panin tähele, et see esimese inimese nimelise sipelga nimeline kasutaja oli Commonsis omistanud Katrin Sipelgale <a class="external autonumber" href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Katrin_Sipelgas">[5]</a> Läti kodakondsuse ning ühtlasi kategooria Women of Latvia. Ent paistab küll nii, et Katrin Sipelgat ühendab Lätiga s-täht perekonnanime lõpus ning asjaolu, et ta on olnud ühe Läti-Eesti koostööfilmi kunstnik, kuid kas talle selle eest ka Läti kodakondsus on antud, tundub kahtlane. Ehk siis pigem on tegemist vikisipelga pealiskaudsuse ja ebakompetentsusega. <a href="/wiki/Kasutaja:VillaK" title="Kasutaja:VillaK">VillaK</a> (<a href="/wiki/Kasutaja_arutelu:VillaK" title="Kasutaja arutelu:VillaK">arutelu</a>) <a href="https://et.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vikipeedia:%C3%9Cldine_arutelu#c-VillaK-20240906060900-Estopedist1-20240905112200" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">6. september 2024, kell 09:09 (EEST)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-VillaK-20240906060900-Estopedist1-20240905112200"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">vasta</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-VillaK-20240906060900-Estopedist1-20240905112200"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Kruusamägi-20240909192800-VillaK-20240906060900"></span>Muutsin nüüd selle Läti sipelga eestlaseks ümber. <a href="/wiki/Kasutaja:Kruusam%C3%A4gi" title="Kasutaja:Kruusamägi">Ivo</a> (<a href="/wiki/Kasutaja_arutelu:Kruusam%C3%A4gi" title="Kasutaja arutelu:Kruusamägi">arutelu</a>) <a href="https://et.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vikipeedia:%C3%9Cldine_arutelu#c-Kruusamägi-20240909192800-VillaK-20240906060900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">9. september 2024, kell 22:28 (EEST)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Kruusamägi-20240909192800-VillaK-20240906060900"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">vasta</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Kruusamägi-20240909192800-VillaK-20240906060900"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Mardus-20240917055700-Estopedist1-20240905112200"></span>Ma siin toetan Ivot ja teisi, kes on vastu fotode kustutamisele. / I support Ivo and all the others here who are against the nominations for the deletion of photos, and who are against the deletion of these photos, which nominations are wholly arbitrary. -<span style="text-shadow:7px 5px 7px #409fff;"><a href="/wiki/Kasutaja:Mardus" title="Kasutaja:Mardus">Mardus</a> <small>/<a href="/wiki/Kasutaja_arutelu:Mardus" title="Kasutaja arutelu:Mardus"><span style="color:black">arutelu</span></a></small></span> <a href="https://et.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vikipeedia:%C3%9Cldine_arutelu#c-Mardus-20240917055700-Estopedist1-20240905112200" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17. september 2024, kell 08:57 (EEST)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Mardus-20240917055700-Estopedist1-20240905112200"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">vasta</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Mardus-20240917055700-Estopedist1-20240905112200"></span></li></ul> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Sooviavaldus,_seoses_võrdusmärkide_vahel_olevate_(ala(ala))pealkirjadega_toimetamisakna_kuvas" data-mw-thread-id="h-Sooviavaldus,_seoses_võrdusmärkide_vahel_olevate_(ala(ala))pealkirjadega_toime-20240904193700"><span id="Sooviavaldus.2C_seoses_v.C3.B5rdusm.C3.A4rkide_vahel_olevate_.28ala.28ala.29.29pealkirjadega_toimetamisakna_kuvas"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Sooviavaldus,_seoses_võrdusmärkide_vahel_olevate_(ala(ala))pealkirjadega_toime-20240904193700"></span>Sooviavaldus, seoses võrdusmärkide vahel olevate (ala(ala))pealkirjadega toimetamisakna kuvas<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Sooviavaldus,_seoses_võrdusmärkide_vahel_olevate_(ala(ala))pealkirjadega_toime-20240904193700"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Vikipeedia:%C3%9Cldine_arutelu&action=edit&section=5" title="Muuda alaosa "Sooviavaldus, seoses võrdusmärkide vahel olevate (ala(ala))pealkirjadega toimetamisakna kuvas" lähteteksti"><span>muuda lähteteksti</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Pietadè-20240904193700-Sooviavaldus,_seoses_võrdusmärkide_vahel_olevate_(ala(ala))pealkirjadega_toime"></span>Vaadates nt ruwiki toimetamisakna kuva (Разделы: == == // === === // === Итог === ... // == См. также == // == Примечания == jne), ehk oleks mõttekas midagi analoogset ka siin teha ("näpuvaeva" vähendamiseks)...<br/>st, nt kas <b>Pealkiri</b> ja jutumärkide vahel on tühik või ei;<br/>vähemalt esimesi lisandusi tegevatele inimestele (ja redigeerijatele) oleks sest kasu<a href="/wiki/Kasutaja:Pietad%C3%A8" title="Kasutaja:Pietadè"><span style="color:#146E2C;"> ☆☆☆ —</span> Pietadè</a> <a href="https://et.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vikipeedia:%C3%9Cldine_arutelu#c-Pietadè-20240904193700-Sooviavaldus,_seoses_võrdusmärkide_vahel_olevate_(ala(ala))pealkirjadega_toime" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">4. september 2024, kell 22:37 (EEST)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Pietadè-20240904193700-Sooviavaldus,_seoses_võrdusmärkide_vahel_olevate_(ala(ala))pealkirjadega_toime"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">vasta</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Pietadè-20240904193700-Sooviavaldus,_seoses_võrdusmärkide_vahel_olevate_(ala(ala))pealkirjadega_toime"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Pikne-20240909135100-Pietadè-20240904193700"></span>Redigeerimise tööriistaribalt iseenesest juba saab valida mitme eri taseme pealkirju. <a href="/wiki/Kasutaja_arutelu:Pikne" title="Kasutaja arutelu:Pikne">Pikne</a> <a href="https://et.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vikipeedia:%C3%9Cldine_arutelu#c-Pikne-20240909135100-Pietadè-20240904193700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">9. september 2024, kell 16:51 (EEST)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Pikne-20240909135100-Pietadè-20240904193700"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">vasta</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Pikne-20240909135100-Pietadè-20240904193700"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="GFDL" data-mw-thread-id="h-GFDL-20240908151700"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-GFDL-20240908151700"></span>GFDL<span data-mw-comment-end="h-GFDL-20240908151700"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Vikipeedia:%C3%9Cldine_arutelu&action=edit&section=6" title="Muuda alaosa "GFDL" lähteteksti"><span>muuda lähteteksti</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-MGA73-20240908151700-GFDL"></span>Hello! </p><p>Files licensed GFDL may be eligible for a relicense per <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Image_license_migration" class="extiw" title="en:Wikipedia:Image license migration">en:Wikipedia:Image license migration</a> that does not seem to be completed here. There are 314 files in <a href="/wiki/Kategooria:GFDL_pildid" title="Kategooria:GFDL pildid">Kategooria:GFDL pildid</a> but some are allready licensed cc-by-sa-3.0. So the actual number is less. </p><p>To complete the license update we will need some templates for example: </p> <ol><li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Cc-by-sa-3.0-migrated" class="extiw" title="en:Template:Cc-by-sa-3.0-migrated">en:Template:Cc-by-sa-3.0-migrated</a></li> <li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:License_migration_announcement" class="extiw" title="en:Template:License migration announcement">en:Template:License migration announcement</a></li></ol> <p>I suggest to keep the code in English but to translate the visible text. Keeping code in English makes it much easier to copy between wikis. The other templates are not visible (most are in <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Wikipedia_license_migration_templates" class="extiw" title="en:Category:Wikipedia license migration templates">en:Category:Wikipedia license migration templates</a> but we can live without some of them). </p><p>I can copy the templates needed and once all are working perhaps someone would like to translate the visible parts? </p><p>Depending on the number of files to check we may need someone with a bot too. <a href="/wiki/Kasutaja:MGA73" title="Kasutaja:MGA73">MGA73</a> (<a href="/w/index.php?title=Kasutaja_arutelu:MGA73&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Kasutaja arutelu:MGA73 (pole veel kirjutatud)">arutelu</a>) <a href="https://et.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vikipeedia:%C3%9Cldine_arutelu#c-MGA73-20240908151700-GFDL" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">8. september 2024, kell 18:17 (EEST)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-MGA73-20240908151700-GFDL"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">vasta</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-MGA73-20240908151700-GFDL"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Pikne-20240909135100-MGA73-20240908151700"></span>I doubt that it's worth the effort. Most license migration candidates that there were have already been moved to Commons and relicensed over there. The actual number of remaining GFDL files that yet aren't dual licenced and are eligible (uploaded before August 1, 2009) is below 70. We might as well relicense these remaining ones too in Commons, but later when copyrights for the depicted works have expired. As I understand, it isn't strictly necessary to relicense the files and so we are not in hurry with this. But if you insist on doing this right away then I think we need only <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Template:Cc-by-sa-3.0-migrated" class="extiw" title="c:Template:Cc-by-sa-3.0-migrated">c:Template:Cc-by-sa-3.0-migrated</a> (has translations available) to tag these a few eligible GFDL files. <a href="/wiki/Kasutaja_arutelu:Pikne" title="Kasutaja arutelu:Pikne">Pikne</a> <a href="https://et.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vikipeedia:%C3%9Cldine_arutelu#c-Pikne-20240909135100-MGA73-20240908151700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">9. september 2024, kell 16:51 (EEST)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Pikne-20240909135100-MGA73-20240908151700"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">vasta</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Pikne-20240909135100-MGA73-20240908151700"></span></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-MGA73-20240909143600-Pikne-20240909135100"></span>Well I have this crazy project to fix GFDL on all wikis: <a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:MGA73/GFDL_files" class="extiw" title="m:User:MGA73/GFDL files">m:User:MGA73/GFDL files</a>. So it would make me happy to fix the files. Sadly the lack of <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Copyright_rules_by_territory/Estonia#Freedom_of_panorama" class="extiw" title="c:Commons:Copyright rules by territory/Estonia">Freedom of panorama</a> means we can't move the remaining files to Commons. Otherwise that would have been a great idea. And I agree there is no need to create a lot of templates when it is only a few files. --<a href="/wiki/Kasutaja:MGA73" title="Kasutaja:MGA73">MGA73</a> (<a href="/w/index.php?title=Kasutaja_arutelu:MGA73&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Kasutaja arutelu:MGA73 (pole veel kirjutatud)">arutelu</a>) <a href="https://et.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vikipeedia:%C3%9Cldine_arutelu#c-MGA73-20240909143600-Pikne-20240909135100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">9. september 2024, kell 17:36 (EEST)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-MGA73-20240909143600-Pikne-20240909135100"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">vasta</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-MGA73-20240909143600-Pikne-20240909135100"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-MGA73-20240909192700-MGA73-20240909143600"></span>The most simple solution is to add cc-by-sa-3.0-migrated directly in the self template like this <a href="https://ga.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Diff/1232503" class="extiw" title="ga:Special:Diff/1232503">ga:Special:Diff/1232503</a> and change GFDL like <a href="https://ga.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Diff/1232506" class="extiw" title="ga:Special:Diff/1232506">ga:Special:Diff/1232506</a> and then add migration=relicense like <a href="https://ga.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Diff/1232508" class="extiw" title="ga:Special:Diff/1232508">ga:Special:Diff/1232508</a>. The files that are not eligible can still be tagged but it will make no difference as long as the file is not moved to Commons. But if moved to Commons the code will work. --<a href="/wiki/Kasutaja:MGA73" title="Kasutaja:MGA73">MGA73</a> (<a href="/w/index.php?title=Kasutaja_arutelu:MGA73&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Kasutaja arutelu:MGA73 (pole veel kirjutatud)">arutelu</a>) <a href="https://et.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vikipeedia:%C3%9Cldine_arutelu#c-MGA73-20240909192700-MGA73-20240909143600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">9. september 2024, kell 22:27 (EEST)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-MGA73-20240909192700-MGA73-20240909143600"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">vasta</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-MGA73-20240909192700-MGA73-20240909143600"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-MGA73-20240910182100-MGA73-20240909192700"></span>I think all files are fixed now. I noticed that there is an VRT-permission on some of the files. If the permission is from the person who made the statue etc. then the file can go to Commons. --<a href="/wiki/Kasutaja:MGA73" title="Kasutaja:MGA73">MGA73</a> (<a href="/w/index.php?title=Kasutaja_arutelu:MGA73&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Kasutaja arutelu:MGA73 (pole veel kirjutatud)">arutelu</a>) <a href="https://et.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vikipeedia:%C3%9Cldine_arutelu#c-MGA73-20240910182100-MGA73-20240909192700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10. september 2024, kell 21:21 (EEST)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-MGA73-20240910182100-MGA73-20240909192700"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">vasta</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-MGA73-20240910182100-MGA73-20240909192700"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Vahemikus_25._september–15._detsember_lisanduvad_kursuse_raames_infokorralduse_artiklid" data-mw-thread-id="h-Vahemikus_25._september–15._detsember_lisanduvad_kursuse_raames_infokorralduse-20240920143500"><span id="Vahemikus_25._september.E2.80.9315._detsember_lisanduvad_kursuse_raames_infokorralduse_artiklid"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Vahemikus_25._september–15._detsember_lisanduvad_kursuse_raames_infokorralduse-20240920143500"></span>Vahemikus 25. september–15. detsember lisanduvad kursuse raames infokorralduse artiklid<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Vahemikus_25._september–15._detsember_lisanduvad_kursuse_raames_infokorralduse-20240920143500"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Vikipeedia:%C3%9Cldine_arutelu&action=edit&section=7" title="Muuda alaosa "Vahemikus 25. september–15. detsember lisanduvad kursuse raames infokorralduse artiklid" lähteteksti"><span>muuda lähteteksti</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Sillerkiil-20240920143500-Vahemikus_25._september–15._detsember_lisanduvad_kursuse_raames_infokorralduse"></span>Annan teada, et ühe aine raames teevad 40 tudengit infokorraldusega (arhiivindus, dokumendihaldus, andmehaldus ja -eetika, raamatukogundus jne) seonduvaid artikleid, nii et noid ei pea ehk esialgu liiga hoogsalt toimetama ja kritiseerima, et lasta autoritel harjutada ning mitte motivatsiooni pärssida. Tudengeid on juhendatud küll võimalikult kvaliteetseid artikleid looma, aga võib siiski apse juhtuda. Teavitatud on ka mustandi ja liivakasti võimalustest. Püüame artiklid esialgu ka vastavalt ära tähistada. Selguse huvides võin jooksvalt siia artiklite nimed lisada. <a href="/wiki/Kasutaja:Sillerkiil" title="Kasutaja:Sillerkiil">Sillerkiil</a> (<a href="/wiki/Kasutaja_arutelu:Sillerkiil" title="Kasutaja arutelu:Sillerkiil">arutelu</a>) <a href="https://et.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vikipeedia:%C3%9Cldine_arutelu#c-Sillerkiil-20240920143500-Vahemikus_25._september–15._detsember_lisanduvad_kursuse_raames_infokorralduse" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20. september 2024, kell 17:35 (EEST)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Sillerkiil-20240920143500-Vahemikus_25._september–15._detsember_lisanduvad_kursuse_raames_infokorralduse"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">vasta</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Sillerkiil-20240920143500-Vahemikus_25._september–15._detsember_lisanduvad_kursuse_raames_infokorralduse"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Isikute_artiklites_asukoha_kaardilinkide_lisamine." data-mw-thread-id="h-Isikute_artiklites_asukoha_kaardilinkide_lisamine.-20240922210000"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Isikute_artiklites_asukoha_kaardilinkide_lisamine.-20240922210000"></span>Isikute artiklites asukoha kaardilinkide lisamine.<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Isikute_artiklites_asukoha_kaardilinkide_lisamine.-20240922210000"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Vikipeedia:%C3%9Cldine_arutelu&action=edit&section=8" title="Muuda alaosa "Isikute artiklites asukoha kaardilinkide lisamine." lähteteksti"><span>muuda lähteteksti</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Kruusamägi-20240922210000-Isikute_artiklites_asukoha_kaardilinkide_lisamine."></span>Isiku artiklite tüüpformaadis võiks olla oma koht sünni, surma asukoha kaardilingile, näiteks Google Maps'is, näiteks nagu asulate artiklites on koordinaadid alguses, üleval paremal. Või ka maa-ameti kaardirakenduses pärandkultuuri valdkonnas. Priit 22. september 2024, kell 23:39 (EEST) </p> <dl><dd>Sünni- ja surmakohad (kui on teada/olemas) on lingitud ehk alati saab minna vastavasse vikiartiklisse ja sealt edasi kaardi juurde liikuda. Samuti on kaardilink <a class="external text" href="https://geohack.toolforge.org/geohack.php?pagename=Tallinn&language=et&params=59.437222222222_N_24.745_E_region:EE_type:city">selline</a>. Mille poolest on praegune lahendus puudulik? <a href="/wiki/Kasutaja:Kruusam%C3%A4gi" title="Kasutaja:Kruusamägi">Ivo</a> (<a href="/wiki/Kasutaja_arutelu:Kruusam%C3%A4gi" title="Kasutaja arutelu:Kruusamägi">arutelu</a>) <a href="https://et.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vikipeedia:%C3%9Cldine_arutelu#c-Kruusamägi-20240922210000-Isikute_artiklites_asukoha_kaardilinkide_lisamine." class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23. september 2024, kell 00:00 (EEST)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Kruusamägi-20240922210000-Isikute_artiklites_asukoha_kaardilinkide_lisamine."><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">vasta</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Kruusamägi-20240922210000-Isikute_artiklites_asukoha_kaardilinkide_lisamine."></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Albumite/singlite_kaanepiltide_lisamine" data-mw-thread-id="h-Albumite/singlite_kaanepiltide_lisamine-20240928214400"><span id="Albumite.2Fsinglite_kaanepiltide_lisamine"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Albumite/singlite_kaanepiltide_lisamine-20240928214400"></span>Albumite/singlite kaanepiltide lisamine<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Albumite/singlite_kaanepiltide_lisamine-20240928214400"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Vikipeedia:%C3%9Cldine_arutelu&action=edit&section=9" title="Muuda alaosa "Albumite/singlite kaanepiltide lisamine" lähteteksti"><span>muuda lähteteksti</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Kruusamägi-20240928214400-Albumite/singlite_kaanepiltide_lisamine"></span>Tere, tahtsin küsida selle teema kohta natuke. Kuna hetkel on albumitele piltide lisamine üsna keeruline, siis tahtsin uurida kas keegi teab, kas on lootust et see kunagi muutub lihtsamaks või jääbki nii? Kuna ma tegelen albumite, singlite ja üleüldse ansamblite lisamisega, siis on üsna masendav, et ei saa pilti juurde panna albumitele. Mõtlesin küsida, et kas kellelgi on äkki rohkem infot või on kunagi proovinud uurida selle teema kohta. – Eelneva <a href="/wiki/Vikipeedia:Arutelulehek%C3%BClg#Tehnilised_ja_vormistamisstandardid" title="Vikipeedia:Arutelulehekülg">allkirjata</a> kommentaari kirjutas <a href="/w/index.php?title=Kasutaja:Vaiksed%C3%B6%C3%B6d&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Kasutaja:Vaiksedööd (pole veel kirjutatud)">Vaiksedööd</a> (<a href="/w/index.php?title=Kasutaja_arutelu:Vaiksed%C3%B6%C3%B6d&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Kasutaja arutelu:Vaiksedööd (pole veel kirjutatud)">arutelu</a> • <a href="/wiki/Eri:Kaast%C3%B6%C3%B6/Vaiksed%C3%B6%C3%B6d" title="Eri:Kaastöö/Vaiksedööd">kaastöö</a>). </p> <dl><dd>Albumite kaanepildid on autoriõigusega kaitstud ja kui just autorid ise ei anna luba kujutiste vabaks levitamiseks, siis seni me kaanepilte paraku üles panna ei tohi. <a href="/wiki/Kasutaja:Kruusam%C3%A4gi" title="Kasutaja:Kruusamägi">Ivo</a> (<a href="/wiki/Kasutaja_arutelu:Kruusam%C3%A4gi" title="Kasutaja arutelu:Kruusamägi">arutelu</a>) <a href="https://et.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vikipeedia:%C3%9Cldine_arutelu#c-Kruusamägi-20240928214400-Albumite/singlite_kaanepiltide_lisamine" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">29. september 2024, kell 00:44 (EEST)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Kruusamägi-20240928214400-Albumite/singlite_kaanepiltide_lisamine"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">vasta</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Kruusamägi-20240928214400-Albumite/singlite_kaanepiltide_lisamine"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Spring_Strom_2024_Damages" data-mw-thread-id="h-Spring_Strom_2024_Damages-20241009212600"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Spring_Strom_2024_Damages-20241009212600"></span>Spring Strom 2024 Damages<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Spring_Strom_2024_Damages-20241009212600"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Vikipeedia:%C3%9Cldine_arutelu&action=edit&section=10" title="Muuda alaosa "Spring Strom 2024 Damages" lähteteksti"><span>muuda lähteteksti</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Sanandros-20241009212600-Spring_Strom_2024_Damages"></span>I hope I'm here on the right page. In Estonia was recently the Spring Storm 2024 military exercise. I writing on <a href="https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steadfast_Defender_2024" class="extiw" title="de:Steadfast Defender 2024">de:Steadfast Defender 2024</a> about the Spring Storm 24 excecicse. Now I found a webpage <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://parnu.postimees.ee/term/750398/kevadtorm-2024">here</a> where some reports aurous about damages and where a drone crash and burned a forest. Unfortunately these articles are behind a paywall and I can't access them. Can somebody help me to access them or find an alternative website where I can get the information for free? Thank you.--<a href="/wiki/Kasutaja:Sanandros" title="Kasutaja:Sanandros">Sanandros</a> (<a href="/w/index.php?title=Kasutaja_arutelu:Sanandros&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Kasutaja arutelu:Sanandros (pole veel kirjutatud)">arutelu</a>) <a href="https://et.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vikipeedia:%C3%9Cldine_arutelu#c-Sanandros-20241009212600-Spring_Strom_2024_Damages" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10. oktoober 2024, kell 00:26 (EEST)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Sanandros-20241009212600-Spring_Strom_2024_Damages"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">vasta</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Sanandros-20241009212600-Spring_Strom_2024_Damages"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-2001:7D0:8046:7980:74D6:E104:7DEF:2C6E-20241010162100-Sanandros-20241009212600"></span>Here you can access those articles:</dd> <dd>Pärnu Postimees 24. mai 2024 — DIGAR Eesti artiklid</dd> <dd><a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="https://dea.digar.ee/?a=d&d=parnupostimees20240524.2.3.4">https://dea.digar.ee/?a=d&d=parnupostimees20240524.2.3.4</a></dd> <dd>Pärnu Postimees 15. mai 2024 — DIGAR Eesti artiklid</dd> <dd><a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="https://dea.digar.ee/?a=d&d=parnupostimees20240515.2.2">https://dea.digar.ee/?a=d&d=parnupostimees20240515.2.2</a> <a href="/wiki/Eri:Kaast%C3%B6%C3%B6/2001:7D0:8046:7980:74D6:E104:7DEF:2C6E" title="Eri:Kaastöö/2001:7D0:8046:7980:74D6:E104:7DEF:2C6E">2001:7D0:8046:7980:74D6:E104:7DEF:2C6E</a> <a href="https://et.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vikipeedia:%C3%9Cldine_arutelu#c-2001:7D0:8046:7980:74D6:E104:7DEF:2C6E-20241010162100-Sanandros-20241009212600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10. oktoober 2024, kell 19:21 (EEST)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-2001:7D0:8046:7980:74D6:E104:7DEF:2C6E-20241010162100-Sanandros-20241009212600"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">vasta</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-2001:7D0:8046:7980:74D6:E104:7DEF:2C6E-20241010162100-Sanandros-20241009212600"></span></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Sanandros-20241014031100-2001:7D0:8046:7980:74D6:E104:7DEF:2C6E-20241010162100"></span>OK Thank you very much, I will consult these pages.--<a href="/wiki/Kasutaja:Sanandros" title="Kasutaja:Sanandros">Sanandros</a> (<a href="/w/index.php?title=Kasutaja_arutelu:Sanandros&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Kasutaja arutelu:Sanandros (pole veel kirjutatud)">arutelu</a>) <a href="https://et.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vikipeedia:%C3%9Cldine_arutelu#c-Sanandros-20241014031100-2001:7D0:8046:7980:74D6:E104:7DEF:2C6E-20241010162100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14. oktoober 2024, kell 06:11 (EEST)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Sanandros-20241014031100-2001:7D0:8046:7980:74D6:E104:7DEF:2C6E-20241010162100"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">vasta</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Sanandros-20241014031100-2001:7D0:8046:7980:74D6:E104:7DEF:2C6E-20241010162100"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Page_views_in_the_past_30_days_—_xxx" data-mw-thread-id="h-Page_views_in_the_past_30_days_—_xxx-20241017074700"><span id="Page_views_in_the_past_30_days_.E2.80.94_xxx"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Page_views_in_the_past_30_days_—_xxx-20241017074700"></span>Page views in the past 30 days — xxx<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Page_views_in_the_past_30_days_—_xxx-20241017074700"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Vikipeedia:%C3%9Cldine_arutelu&action=edit&section=11" title="Muuda alaosa "Page views in the past 30 days — xxx" lähteteksti"><span>muuda lähteteksti</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Pietadè-20241017074700-Page_views_in_the_past_30_days_—_xxx"></span>"Page views in the past 30 days" — ingliskeelses Wikis on järgnev arv <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://sonaveeb.ee/search/unif/dlall/dsall/klikkima/1/est">klikitav</a> (vt nt <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Alicante&action=info">Alicante</a>), siin ei ole, miks?<a href="/wiki/Kasutaja:Pietad%C3%A8" title="Kasutaja:Pietadè"><span style="color:#146E2C;"> ☆☆☆ —</span> Pietadè</a> <a href="https://et.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vikipeedia:%C3%9Cldine_arutelu#c-Pietadè-20241017074700-Page_views_in_the_past_30_days_—_xxx" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17. oktoober 2024, kell 10:47 (EEST)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Pietadè-20241017074700-Page_views_in_the_past_30_days_—_xxx"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">vasta</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Pietadè-20241017074700-Page_views_in_the_past_30_days_—_xxx"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Pikne-20241021171700-Pietadè-20241017074700"></span>Inglise vikis on selle lahtri sisu kohandatud. Siin saaks ka nii teha, aga ma kahtlen, kas see on hea mõte. Selle lahtri sisu ja viidatud lehel toodu arv ei lähe omavahel kokku, nähtavasti ei arvestata neis kohtades vaatamisi päris samamoodi (näiteks selles Alicante näites näitab vikis praegu 24 390 vaatamist, aga viidatud lehel 25 153 vaatamist). Samale statistikalehele muidu on viidatud ka siin (link "Lehe vaatamise statistika" samal lehel tabelite all ja ka ajaloolehe päises). <a href="/wiki/Kasutaja_arutelu:Pikne" title="Kasutaja arutelu:Pikne">Pikne</a> <a href="https://et.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vikipeedia:%C3%9Cldine_arutelu#c-Pikne-20241021171700-Pietadè-20241017074700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21. oktoober 2024, kell 20:17 (EEST)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Pikne-20241021171700-Pietadè-20241017074700"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">vasta</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Pikne-20241021171700-Pietadè-20241017074700"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Lühend_eKr_ei_sobi" data-mw-thread-id="h-Lühend_eKr_ei_sobi-20241101072100"><span id="L.C3.BChend_eKr_ei_sobi"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Lühend_eKr_ei_sobi-20241101072100"></span>Lühend eKr ei sobi<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Lühend_eKr_ei_sobi-20241101072100"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Vikipeedia:%C3%9Cldine_arutelu&action=edit&section=12" title="Muuda alaosa "Lühend eKr ei sobi" lähteteksti"><span>muuda lähteteksti</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Vaher-20241101072100-Lühend_eKr_ei_sobi"></span>Sest see on mütoloogia. Eelistan e.m.a.--<a href="/wiki/Kasutaja:Vaher" title="Kasutaja:Vaher">Vaher</a> (<a href="/wiki/Kasutaja_arutelu:Vaher" title="Kasutaja arutelu:Vaher">arutelu</a>) <a href="https://et.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vikipeedia:%C3%9Cldine_arutelu#c-Vaher-20241101072100-Lühend_eKr_ei_sobi" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">1. november 2024, kell 09:21 (EET)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Vaher-20241101072100-Lühend_eKr_ei_sobi"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">vasta</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Vaher-20241101072100-Lühend_eKr_ei_sobi"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Taivo-20241112183100-Vaher-20241101072100"></span>Arvan sama. <a href="/wiki/Kasutaja:Taivo" title="Kasutaja:Taivo">Taivo</a> <a href="https://et.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vikipeedia:%C3%9Cldine_arutelu#c-Taivo-20241112183100-Vaher-20241101072100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12. november 2024, kell 20:31 (EET)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Taivo-20241112183100-Vaher-20241101072100"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">vasta</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Taivo-20241112183100-Vaher-20241101072100"></span></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Neptuunium-20241112193600-Vaher-20241101072100"></span>Ei nõustu. See on domineeriv systeem ja esineb igapäevaselt sekulaarses kasutuses. - <span style="background:#444;padding:2px 12px;font-size:12px"><a href="/wiki/Kasutaja:Neptuunium" title="Kasutaja:Neptuunium"><span style="color:#fff">Neptuunium</span></a> <span style="color:#FC0">❯❯❯</span> <a href="/wiki/Kasutaja_arutelu:Neptuunium" title="Kasutaja arutelu:Neptuunium"><span style="color:#fff">arutelu</span></a></span> <a href="https://et.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vikipeedia:%C3%9Cldine_arutelu#c-Neptuunium-20241112193600-Vaher-20241101072100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12. november 2024, kell 21:36 (EET)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Neptuunium-20241112193600-Vaher-20241101072100"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">vasta</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Neptuunium-20241112193600-Vaher-20241101072100"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Taivo-20241114161600-Neptuunium-20241112193600"></span>Kuid see ei tohiks domineerida ja vikipeedia võiks selles osas olla teenäitaja. <a href="/wiki/Kasutaja:Taivo" title="Kasutaja:Taivo">Taivo</a> <a href="https://et.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vikipeedia:%C3%9Cldine_arutelu#c-Taivo-20241114161600-Neptuunium-20241112193600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14. november 2024, kell 18:16 (EET)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Taivo-20241114161600-Neptuunium-20241112193600"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">vasta</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Taivo-20241114161600-Neptuunium-20241112193600"></span></dd></dl></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Pikne-20241114182600-Vaher-20241101072100"></span>Selle üle oli mõne aasta eest arutelu, just sinu parandustest ajendatuna: <a href="/wiki/Vikipeedia:%C3%9Cldine_arutelu/Arhiiv_31#eKr_või_e.m.a" title="Vikipeedia:Üldine arutelu/Arhiiv 31">Vikipeedia:Üldine arutelu/Arhiiv 31#eKr või e.m.a</a>. Asjaolud, mille tõttu eelistame lühendit eKr, vähemasti pealkirjades, ei ole arvatavasti vahepeal muutunud. <a href="/wiki/Kasutaja_arutelu:Pikne" title="Kasutaja arutelu:Pikne">Pikne</a> <a href="https://et.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vikipeedia:%C3%9Cldine_arutelu#c-Pikne-20241114182600-Vaher-20241101072100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14. november 2024, kell 20:26 (EET)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Pikne-20241114182600-Vaher-20241101072100"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">vasta</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Pikne-20241114182600-Vaher-20241101072100"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Taivo-20241117182200-Pikne-20241114182600"></span>Eelistame?? Mina ei eelista. Lingitud arutelus pole mind üldse mainitud, aga tunnen end nagu kõrvust tõstetuna, et sa veel 9 aastat hiljem mäletad, et minu parandustest ajendatuna. Minust on kasu olnud. <a href="/wiki/Kasutaja:Taivo" title="Kasutaja:Taivo">Taivo</a> <a href="https://et.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vikipeedia:%C3%9Cldine_arutelu#c-Taivo-20241117182200-Pikne-20241114182600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17. november 2024, kell 20:22 (EET)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Taivo-20241117182200-Pikne-20241114182600"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">vasta</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Taivo-20241117182200-Pikne-20241114182600"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Pikne-20241117183500-Taivo-20241117182200"></span>Täpsustan, et see varasem aruteluteema oli ajendatud kasutaja Vaher parandustest, kui see minu eelmise kommentaari taandest piisavalt selgelt välja ei tulnud. Vähemasti artiklipealkirjades ju kasutame läbivalt lühendit "eKr". Varasemas arutelus leiti üldiselt, et lühendite kasutus võiks olla ka edaspidi järjekindel. <a href="/wiki/Kasutaja_arutelu:Pikne" title="Kasutaja arutelu:Pikne">Pikne</a> <a href="https://et.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vikipeedia:%C3%9Cldine_arutelu#c-Pikne-20241117183500-Taivo-20241117182200" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17. november 2024, kell 20:35 (EET)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Pikne-20241117183500-Taivo-20241117182200"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">vasta</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Pikne-20241117183500-Taivo-20241117182200"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Files_uploaded_to_beta.wikiversity_-_are_they_Estonian?" data-mw-thread-id="h-Files_uploaded_to_beta.wikiversity_-_are_they_Estonian?-20241104164000"><span id="Files_uploaded_to_beta.wikiversity_-_are_they_Estonian.3F"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Files_uploaded_to_beta.wikiversity_-_are_they_Estonian?-20241104164000"></span>Files uploaded to beta.wikiversity - are they Estonian?<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Files_uploaded_to_beta.wikiversity_-_are_they_Estonian?-20241104164000"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Vikipeedia:%C3%9Cldine_arutelu&action=edit&section=13" title="Muuda alaosa "Files uploaded to beta.wikiversity - are they Estonian?" lähteteksti"><span>muuda lähteteksti</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-MGA73-20241104164000-Files_uploaded_to_beta.wikiversity_-_are_they_Estonian?"></span>Hi! There are a number of files uploaded at <a class="external free" href="https://beta.wikiversity.org/wiki/Special:ListFiles/Timo~betawikiversity">https://beta.wikiversity.org/wiki/Special:ListFiles/Timo~betawikiversity</a> that I think are Estonian. Perhaps someone can listen to them and check? </p><p>If they are Estonian I wonder if they are somehow usable. If so they should be transferred to Commons and put in <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Audio_files_in_Estonian" class="extiw" title="c:Category:Audio files in Estonian">c:Category:Audio files in Estonian</a> for example. </p><p>Some of them are songs. If they are old songs they are PD. But if they are new they are copyrighted. But I have no idea how to find out which songs they are or how old they are. If someone would like to help it would be great. <a href="/wiki/Kasutaja:MGA73" title="Kasutaja:MGA73">MGA73</a> (<a href="/w/index.php?title=Kasutaja_arutelu:MGA73&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Kasutaja arutelu:MGA73 (pole veel kirjutatud)">arutelu</a>) <a href="https://et.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vikipeedia:%C3%9Cldine_arutelu#c-MGA73-20241104164000-Files_uploaded_to_beta.wikiversity_-_are_they_Estonian?" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">4. november 2024, kell 18:40 (EET)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-MGA73-20241104164000-Files_uploaded_to_beta.wikiversity_-_are_they_Estonian?"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">vasta</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-MGA73-20241104164000-Files_uploaded_to_beta.wikiversity_-_are_they_Estonian?"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Vaher-20241105085000-MGA73-20241104164000"></span>Hi. It is a collection of very old Estonian folk songs and folk music. Suitable for placing under folk music. <a href="/wiki/Kasutaja:Vaher" title="Kasutaja:Vaher">Vaher</a> (<a href="/wiki/Kasutaja_arutelu:Vaher" title="Kasutaja arutelu:Vaher">arutelu</a>) <a href="https://et.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vikipeedia:%C3%9Cldine_arutelu#c-Vaher-20241105085000-MGA73-20241104164000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">5. november 2024, kell 10:50 (EET)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Vaher-20241105085000-MGA73-20241104164000"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">vasta</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Vaher-20241105085000-MGA73-20241104164000"></span></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-MGA73-20241105085200-Vaher-20241105085000"></span>Awesome! Thank you! --<a href="/wiki/Kasutaja:MGA73" title="Kasutaja:MGA73">MGA73</a> (<a href="/w/index.php?title=Kasutaja_arutelu:MGA73&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Kasutaja arutelu:MGA73 (pole veel kirjutatud)">arutelu</a>) <a href="https://et.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vikipeedia:%C3%9Cldine_arutelu#c-MGA73-20241105085200-Vaher-20241105085000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">5. november 2024, kell 10:52 (EET)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-MGA73-20241105085200-Vaher-20241105085000"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">vasta</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-MGA73-20241105085200-Vaher-20241105085000"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-MGA73-20241105090200-MGA73-20241105085200"></span>I created <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Audio_files_of_folk_songs_in_Estonian" class="extiw" title="c:Category:Audio files of folk songs in Estonian">c:Category:Audio files of folk songs in Estonian</a> for the files. --<a href="/wiki/Kasutaja:MGA73" title="Kasutaja:MGA73">MGA73</a> (<a href="/w/index.php?title=Kasutaja_arutelu:MGA73&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Kasutaja arutelu:MGA73 (pole veel kirjutatud)">arutelu</a>) <a href="https://et.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vikipeedia:%C3%9Cldine_arutelu#c-MGA73-20241105090200-MGA73-20241105085200" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">5. november 2024, kell 11:02 (EET)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-MGA73-20241105090200-MGA73-20241105085200"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">vasta</a><span 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class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-VillaK-20241107173700-Bernhard_Lõhmus"></span>Artikli redaktsioon vajaks kaitset või IP-de 2001:7d0:84c3:a980:dd8f:3a65:b749:ec02 ja 62.65.37.73 alt kustutav isik mõningast rahunemisperioodi.--<a href="/wiki/Kasutaja:VillaK" title="Kasutaja:VillaK">VillaK</a> (<a href="/wiki/Kasutaja_arutelu:VillaK" title="Kasutaja arutelu:VillaK">arutelu</a>) <a href="https://et.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vikipeedia:%C3%9Cldine_arutelu#c-VillaK-20241107173700-Bernhard_Lõhmus" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">7. november 2024, kell 19:37 (EET)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-VillaK-20241107173700-Bernhard_Lõhmus"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">vasta</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-VillaK-20241107173700-Bernhard_Lõhmus"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Võistkondlik_30_h_artiklivõistlus" data-mw-thread-id="h-Võistkondlik_30_h_artiklivõistlus-20241109110500"><span id="V.C3.B5istkondlik_30_h_artikliv.C3.B5istlus"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Võistkondlik_30_h_artiklivõistlus-20241109110500"></span>Võistkondlik 30 h artiklivõistlus<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Võistkondlik_30_h_artiklivõistlus-20241109110500"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Vikipeedia:%C3%9Cldine_arutelu&action=edit&section=15" title="Muuda alaosa "Võistkondlik 30 h artiklivõistlus" lähteteksti"><span>muuda lähteteksti</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Kruusamägi-20241109110500-Võistkondlik_30_h_artiklivõistlus"></span>Sel nädalavahetusel kirjutab kaheksa võistkonda artikleid järgnevatel teemadel: <a href="/wiki/Peraki_osariik" title="Peraki osariik">Peraki osariik</a>, <a href="/wiki/Sabahi_osariik" title="Sabahi osariik">Sabahi osariik</a>, <a href="/wiki/Selangori_osariik" title="Selangori osariik">Selangori osariik</a>, <a href="/wiki/Sarawaki_osariik" title="Sarawaki osariik">Sarawaki osariik</a>, <a href="/wiki/Pulau_Pinangi_osariik" title="Pulau Pinangi osariik">Pulau Pinangi osariik</a>, <a href="/wiki/Pahangi_osariik" title="Pahangi osariik">Pahangi osariik</a>, <a href="/wiki/Kedahi_osariik" title="Kedahi osariik">Kedahi osariik</a> ja <a href="/wiki/Johori_osariik" title="Johori osariik">Johori osariik</a>. Neil võib lasta rahus toimetada ja sellega saab vältida redigeerimiskonflikte. <a href="/wiki/Kasutaja:Kruusam%C3%A4gi" title="Kasutaja:Kruusamägi">Ivo</a> (<a href="/wiki/Kasutaja_arutelu:Kruusam%C3%A4gi" title="Kasutaja arutelu:Kruusamägi">arutelu</a>) <a href="https://et.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vikipeedia:%C3%9Cldine_arutelu#c-Kruusamägi-20241109110500-Võistkondlik_30_h_artiklivõistlus" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">9. november 2024, kell 13:05 (EET)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Kruusamägi-20241109110500-Võistkondlik_30_h_artiklivõistlus"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">vasta</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Kruusamägi-20241109110500-Võistkondlik_30_h_artiklivõistlus"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Ebareklaam" data-mw-thread-id="h-Ebareklaam-20241111181500"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Ebareklaam-20241111181500"></span>Ebareklaam<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Ebareklaam-20241111181500"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Vikipeedia:%C3%9Cldine_arutelu&action=edit&section=16" title="Muuda alaosa "Ebareklaam" lähteteksti"><span>muuda lähteteksti</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Pietadè-20241111181500-Ebareklaam"></span>Näiteks <a href="/wiki/Notepad%2B%2B" title="Notepad++">Notepad++</a> abil saab teha paljutki; „joonealuse märkuse“ lisamiseks kirjutan alguses <a href="/wiki/Makro" title="Makro">makroks</a> <b>üks</b> kord kogu koodi, seejärel piisab koodi esilekutsumiseks paari-kolme klahvi vajutamisest; saab muidugi jääda kindlaks ka vana juurde ja kirjutada/tippida/suruda iga j kord 100 +/-n klahvile...<a href="/wiki/Kasutaja:Pietad%C3%A8" title="Kasutaja:Pietadè"><span style="color:#146E2C;"> ☆☆☆ —</span> Pietadè</a> <a href="https://et.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vikipeedia:%C3%9Cldine_arutelu#c-Pietadè-20241111181500-Ebareklaam" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11. november 2024, kell 20:15 (EET)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Pietadè-20241111181500-Ebareklaam"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">vasta</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Pietadè-20241111181500-Ebareklaam"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Estopedist1-20241112121700-Pietadè-20241111181500"></span>@<a href="/wiki/Kasutaja:Pietad%C3%A8" title="Kasutaja:Pietadè">Pietadè</a>: ei pea makrode kirjutamisega vaeva nägema. Ma ise kasutan vikitöödel <a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="https://www.autohotkey.com/">https://www.autohotkey.com/</a> <a href="/wiki/Kasutaja:Estopedist1" title="Kasutaja:Estopedist1">Estopedist1</a> (<a href="/wiki/Kasutaja_arutelu:Estopedist1" title="Kasutaja arutelu:Estopedist1">arutelu</a>) <a href="https://et.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vikipeedia:%C3%9Cldine_arutelu#c-Estopedist1-20241112121700-Pietadè-20241111181500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12. november 2024, kell 14:17 (EET)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Estopedist1-20241112121700-Pietadè-20241111181500"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">vasta</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Estopedist1-20241112121700-Pietadè-20241111181500"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Taivo-20241112182900-Estopedist1-20241112121700"></span>Aga minul on tekstifail, kus on kirjas hulk malle ja muid tekstijuppe, mida sageli kasutan. Siis pole muud kui kopipeist artiklisse. Olen näinud, et nii mõnigi hoiab seda mitte tekstifailis, vaid oma kasutajalehel. <a href="/wiki/Kasutaja:Taivo" title="Kasutaja:Taivo">Taivo</a> <a href="https://et.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vikipeedia:%C3%9Cldine_arutelu#c-Taivo-20241112182900-Estopedist1-20241112121700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12. november 2024, kell 20:29 (EET)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Taivo-20241112182900-Estopedist1-20241112121700"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">vasta</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Taivo-20241112182900-Estopedist1-20241112121700"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Pietadè-20241118124900-Taivo-20241112182900"></span>Heh, mina kirjutasin nt ammu-ammu täht-tähthaaval välja malli (cite web) sisu, viisin kursori "url=" järele ja salvestasin malli (makrot saab hiljem (m)uuta/täiendada); praeguseni tuleb nt Ctr+Shift+* vajutamisel välja kood, kuhu sisestan vajalikud andmed...<a href="/wiki/Kasutaja:Pietad%C3%A8" title="Kasutaja:Pietadè"><span style="color:#146E2C;"> ☆☆☆ —</span> Pietadè</a> <a href="https://et.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vikipeedia:%C3%9Cldine_arutelu#c-Pietadè-20241118124900-Taivo-20241112182900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18. november 2024, kell 14:49 (EET)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Pietadè-20241118124900-Taivo-20241112182900"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">vasta</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Pietadè-20241118124900-Taivo-20241112182900"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Vikipeedia_jõulukokkusaamised_2024" data-mw-thread-id="h-Vikipeedia_jõulukokkusaamised_2024-20241117194200"><span id="Vikipeedia_j.C3.B5ulukokkusaamised_2024"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Vikipeedia_jõulukokkusaamised_2024-20241117194200"></span>Vikipeedia jõulukokkusaamised 2024<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Vikipeedia_jõulukokkusaamised_2024-20241117194200"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Vikipeedia:%C3%9Cldine_arutelu&action=edit&section=17" title="Muuda alaosa "Vikipeedia jõulukokkusaamised 2024" lähteteksti"><span>muuda lähteteksti</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Kruusamägi-20241117194200-Vikipeedia_jõulukokkusaamised_2024"></span>Jõuluõhtusöögid toimuvad taas nii Tartus kui ka Tallinnas: </p> <ul><li>6. detsembril algusega kl 18.00 Tallinnas Dublineri pubis (Suure-Karja 18)</li> <li>11. detsembril 2024 algusega kl 18.00 Tartus Gastronomistis (Era 2)</li></ul> <p>Registreeruda saavad Tallinna õhtusöögil osalevad inimesed kuni 3. detsembri õhtuni ning Tartu omal osalevad vikipedistid ja MTÜ liikmed kuni 8. detsembri õhtuni <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSckEHQHPMKJt71JjeX-m4pT-F5VuznrhRwwsesXw-CogG5ksQ/viewform">siin</a>! <a href="/wiki/Kasutaja:Kruusam%C3%A4gi" title="Kasutaja:Kruusamägi">Ivo</a> (<a href="/wiki/Kasutaja_arutelu:Kruusam%C3%A4gi" title="Kasutaja arutelu:Kruusamägi">arutelu</a>) <a href="https://et.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vikipeedia:%C3%9Cldine_arutelu#c-Kruusamägi-20241117194200-Vikipeedia_jõulukokkusaamised_2024" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17. november 2024, kell 21:42 (EET)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Kruusamägi-20241117194200-Vikipeedia_jõulukokkusaamised_2024"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">vasta</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Kruusamägi-20241117194200-Vikipeedia_jõulukokkusaamised_2024"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Kolmepäevane_"blackout",_India_(jm)" data-mw-thread-id="h-Kolmepäevane_"blackout",_India_(jm)-20241118124200"><span id="Kolmep.C3.A4evane_.22blackout.22.2C_India_.28jm.29"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Kolmepäevane_"blackout",_India_(jm)-20241118124200"></span>Kolmepäevane "blackout", India (jm)<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Kolmepäevane_"blackout",_India_(jm)-20241118124200"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Vikipeedia:%C3%9Cldine_arutelu&action=edit&section=18" title="Muuda alaosa "Kolmepäevane "blackout", India (jm)" lähteteksti"><span>muuda lähteteksti</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Pietadè-20241118124200-Kolmepäevane_"blackout",_India_(jm)"></span>Vahepeal (viimase nädala jooksul) oli (ingliskeelses wikis) arutlusel Wikipeedia sulgemine kolmeks päevaks, <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cdrdydkypv7o">seoses Indiaga</a>, ja nende "isa" nõudmisega Wiki autorite andmete avaldamiseks; sesseoses, kui oled liitunud lugematute meililistidega, siis tasuks nt sealt saadud artiklitele/andmetele viidates võtta lingist ära küsimärk ja sellele järgnev, mis kujutab endast privaatandmeid...<a href="/wiki/Kasutaja:Pietad%C3%A8" title="Kasutaja:Pietadè"><span style="color:#146E2C;"> ☆☆☆ —</span> Pietadè</a> <a href="https://et.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vikipeedia:%C3%9Cldine_arutelu#c-Pietadè-20241118124200-Kolmepäevane_"blackout",_India_(jm)" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18. november 2024, kell 14:42 (EET)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Pietadè-20241118124200-Kolmepäevane_"blackout",_India_(jm)"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">vasta</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Pietadè-20241118124200-Kolmepäevane_"blackout",_India_(jm)"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Kruusamägi-20241119182500-Pietadè-20241118124200"></span>Ligipääsupiirangutega on täpsemalt küll <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asian_News_International_vs._Wikimedia_Foundation" class="extiw" title="en:Asian News International vs. Wikimedia Foundation">en:Asian News International vs. Wikimedia Foundation</a>. 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