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It allows adding a reason in the summary.">undo</a></span></strong></div><div id="mw-diff-ntitle2"><a href="/wiki/User:Sgerbic" class="mw-userlink" title="User:Sgerbic" data-mw-revid="1258185788"><bdi>Sgerbic</bdi></a> <span class="mw-usertoollinks">(<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Sgerbic" class="mw-usertoollinks-talk" title="User talk:Sgerbic">talk</a> | <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Sgerbic" class="mw-usertoollinks-contribs" title="Special:Contributions/Sgerbic">contribs</a>)</span><div class="mw-diff-usermetadata"><div class="mw-diff-userroles"><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Extended_confirmed_editors" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:Extended confirmed editors">Extended confirmed users</a></div><div class="mw-diff-usereditcount"><span>8,189</span> edits</div></div></div><div id="mw-diff-ntitle3"> <span class="comment comment--without-parentheses"><span class="autocomment"><a href="#It&#039;s_time_to_tackle_the_list_of_books_about_skepticism">→<bdi dir="ltr">It&#039;s time to tackle the list of books about skepticism</bdi></a>: </span> Reply</span></div><div id="mw-diff-ntitle5"><span class="mw-tag-markers"><a href="/wiki/Special:Tags" title="Special:Tags">Tag</a>: <span class="mw-tag-marker mw-tag-marker-discussiontools-reply"><a class="external text" href="https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Help:DiscussionTools">Reply</a></span></span></div><div id="mw-diff-ntitle4"><a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Skepticism&amp;diff=next&amp;oldid=1258185788" title="Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Skepticism" id="differences-nextlink">Next edit →</a></div></td> </tr><tr> <td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno">Line 81:</td> <td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno">Line 81:</td> </tr> <tr> <td class="diff-marker"></td> <td class="diff-context diff-side-deleted"><div>:::@[[User:Hob Gadling|Hob Gadling]]: I [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=List_of_books_about_skepticism&amp;diff=1258145918&amp;oldid=1258129965 reverted your edit] because first, you removed the italic markup from book titles. Book titles should always be italicized (see [[MOS:ITALICTITLE]]). Second, you created redlinks by linking the book titles with no Wikipedia articles. Redlinks shouldn't be used unless an article is likely to be created (see [[WP:NORED]]). —[[User:Bruce1ee|Bruce1ee]][[User talk:Bruce1ee|&lt;sup&gt;''talk''&lt;/sup&gt;]] 13:23, 18 November 2024 (UTC)</div></td> <td class="diff-marker"></td> <td class="diff-context diff-side-added"><div>:::@[[User:Hob Gadling|Hob Gadling]]: I [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=List_of_books_about_skepticism&amp;diff=1258145918&amp;oldid=1258129965 reverted your edit] because first, you removed the italic markup from book titles. Book titles should always be italicized (see [[MOS:ITALICTITLE]]). Second, you created redlinks by linking the book titles with no Wikipedia articles. Redlinks shouldn't be used unless an article is likely to be created (see [[WP:NORED]]). —[[User:Bruce1ee|Bruce1ee]][[User talk:Bruce1ee|&lt;sup&gt;''talk''&lt;/sup&gt;]] 13:23, 18 November 2024 (UTC)</div></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="diff-marker"></td> <td class="diff-context diff-side-deleted"><div>::::As I said, my edit has fulfilled its goal even if you do not understand it. The revert does not matter. It's fine. --[[User:Hob Gadling|Hob Gadling]] ([[User talk:Hob Gadling|talk]]) 15:14, 18 November 2024 (UTC)</div></td> <td class="diff-marker"></td> <td class="diff-context diff-side-added"><div>::::As I said, my edit has fulfilled its goal even if you do not understand it. The revert does not matter. It's fine. --[[User:Hob Gadling|Hob Gadling]] ([[User talk:Hob Gadling|talk]]) 15:14, 18 November 2024 (UTC)</div></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" class="diff-empty diff-side-deleted"></td> <td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td> <td class="diff-addedline diff-side-added"><div>:::::great idea Hob. 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src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/f/f7/Nuvola_apps_important.svg/13px-Nuvola_apps_important.svg.png" decoding="async" width="13" height="11" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/f/f7/Nuvola_apps_important.svg/20px-Nuvola_apps_important.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/f/f7/Nuvola_apps_important.svg/26px-Nuvola_apps_important.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="600" data-file-height="500"/></a></span> <b><a href="/wiki/Category:Skepticism_articles_needing_attention" title="Category:Skepticism articles needing attention">Needing attention (-1) </a></b> </td> <td> </td></tr> <tr style="background-color: #dddddd;"> <td> <b>·</b> <span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Symbol_support_vote.svg" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/13px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="13" height="13" class="mw-file-element" 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solid black;"><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Skepticism/Assessment" title="Wikipedia:WikiProject Skepticism/Assessment">Assessment</a> </th></tr> <tr style="background-color: #dddddd;"> <td> <b>·</b> <a href="/wiki/Template:WikiProject_Skepticism" title="Template:WikiProject Skepticism">Project banner</a> </td> <td> </td> <td> </td></tr> <tr style="background-color: #eeeeee;"> <td> <b>·</b> <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Version_1.0_Editorial_Team/Skepticism_articles_by_quality_statistics" title="Wikipedia:Version 1.0 Editorial Team/Skepticism articles by quality statistics">Statistics</a> </td> <td> </td> <td> </td></tr> <tr style="background-color: #dddddd;"> <td> <b>·</b> <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Version_1.0_Editorial_Team/Skepticism_articles_by_quality_log" title="Wikipedia:Version 1.0 Editorial Team/Skepticism articles by quality log">Log of changes</a> </td> <td> </td> <td> </td></tr></tbody></table> <table class="mw-collapsible mw-collapsed" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="0" width="100%"> <tbody><tr style="background: #bbbbbb;"> <th colspan="3" style="text-align: left; border-top: 1px solid black;"><a href="/wiki/Category:Skepticism_articles_by_quality" title="Category:Skepticism articles by quality">Articles by quality</a> </th></tr> <tr style="background-color: #dddddd;"> <td> <b>·</b> <a href="/wiki/Category:FA-Class_Skepticism_articles" title="Category:FA-Class Skepticism articles">FA</a> </td> <td style="text-align: right;"><a class="external text" href="http://tools.wmflabs.org/enwp10/cgi-bin/list2.fcgi?run=yes&amp;projecta=Skepticism&amp;quality=FA-Class">23</a> </td> <td> </td></tr> <tr style="background-color: #eeeeee;"> <td> <b>·</b> <a href="/wiki/Category:FL-Class_Skepticism_articles" title="Category:FL-Class Skepticism articles">FL</a> </td> <td style="text-align: right;"><a class="external text" href="http://tools.wmflabs.org/enwp10/cgi-bin/list2.fcgi?run=yes&amp;projecta=Skepticism&amp;quality=FL-Class">2</a> </td> <td> </td></tr> <tr style="background-color: #dddddd;"> <td> <b>·</b> <a href="/wiki/Category:A-Class_Skepticism_articles" title="Category:A-Class Skepticism articles">A</a> </td> <td style="text-align: right;"><a class="external text" href="http://tools.wmflabs.org/enwp10/cgi-bin/list2.fcgi?run=yes&amp;projecta=Skepticism&amp;quality=A-Class">0</a> </td> <td> </td></tr> <tr style="background-color: #eeeeee;"> <td> <b>·</b> <a href="/wiki/Category:GA-Class_Skepticism_articles" title="Category:GA-Class Skepticism articles">GA</a> </td> <td style="text-align: right;"><a class="external text" href="http://tools.wmflabs.org/enwp10/cgi-bin/list2.fcgi?run=yes&amp;projecta=Skepticism&amp;quality=GA-Class">91</a> </td> <td> </td></tr> <tr style="background-color: #dddddd;"> <td> <b>·</b> <a href="/wiki/Category:B-Class_Skepticism_articles" title="Category:B-Class Skepticism articles">B</a> </td> <td style="text-align: right;"><a class="external text" href="http://tools.wmflabs.org/enwp10/cgi-bin/list2.fcgi?run=yes&amp;projecta=Skepticism&amp;quality=B-Class">582</a> </td> <td> </td></tr> <tr style="background-color: #eeeeee;"> <td> <b>·</b> <a href="/wiki/Category:C-Class_Skepticism_articles" title="Category:C-Class Skepticism articles">C</a> </td> <td style="text-align: right;"><a class="external text" href="http://tools.wmflabs.org/enwp10/cgi-bin/list2.fcgi?run=yes&amp;projecta=Skepticism&amp;quality=C-Class">1255</a> </td> <td> </td></tr> <tr style="background-color: #dddddd;"> <td> <b>·</b> <a href="/wiki/Category:Start-Class_Skepticism_articles" title="Category:Start-Class Skepticism articles">Start</a> </td> <td style="text-align: right;"><a class="external text" href="http://tools.wmflabs.org/enwp10/cgi-bin/list2.fcgi?run=yes&amp;projecta=Skepticism&amp;quality=Start-Class">1690</a> </td> <td> </td></tr> <tr style="background-color: #eeeeee;"> <td> <b>·</b> <a href="/wiki/Category:Stub-Class_Skepticism_articles" title="Category:Stub-Class Skepticism articles">Stub</a> </td> <td style="text-align: right;"><a class="external text" href="http://tools.wmflabs.org/enwp10/cgi-bin/list2.fcgi?run=yes&amp;projecta=Skepticism&amp;quality=Stub-Class">112</a> </td> <td> </td></tr> <tr style="background-color: #dddddd;"> <td> <b>·</b> <a href="/wiki/Category:Unassessed_Skepticism_articles" title="Category:Unassessed Skepticism articles">Unassessed</a> </td> <td style="text-align: right;"><a class="external text" href="http://tools.wmflabs.org/enwp10/cgi-bin/list2.fcgi?run=yes&amp;projecta=Skepticism&amp;quality=Unassessed">33</a> </td> <td> </td></tr></tbody></table> </td></tr> <tr> <td> <table class="mw-collapsible mw-collapsed" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="0" width="100%"> <tbody><tr style="background: #bbbbbb;"> <th colspan="2" style="text-align: left; border-top: 1px solid black;"><b><a href="/wiki/Category:Skepticism_articles_by_importance" title="Category:Skepticism articles by importance">Articles by importance</a></b> </th></tr> <tr style="background-color: #dddddd;"> <td> <b>·</b> <a href="/wiki/Category:Top-importance_Skepticism_articles" title="Category:Top-importance Skepticism articles">Top</a> </td> <td style="text-align: right;"><a class="external text" href="http://tools.wmflabs.org/enwp10/cgi-bin/list2.fcgi?run=yes&amp;projecta=Skepticism&amp;importance=Top">64</a> </td></tr> <tr style="background-color: #eeeeee;"> <td> <b>·</b> <a href="/wiki/Category:High-importance_Skepticism_articles" title="Category:High-importance Skepticism articles">High</a> </td> <td style="text-align: right;"><a class="external text" href="http://tools.wmflabs.org/enwp10/cgi-bin/list2.fcgi?run=yes&amp;projecta=Skepticism&amp;importance=High">285</a> </td></tr> <tr style="background-color: #dddddd;"> <td> <b>·</b> <a href="/wiki/Category:Mid-importance_Skepticism_articles" title="Category:Mid-importance Skepticism articles">Mid</a> </td> <td style="text-align: right;"><a class="external text" href="http://tools.wmflabs.org/enwp10/cgi-bin/list2.fcgi?run=yes&amp;projecta=Skepticism&amp;importance=High">805</a> </td></tr> <tr style="background-color: #eeeeee;"> <td> <b>·</b> <a href="/wiki/Category:Low-importance_Skepticism_articles" title="Category:Low-importance Skepticism articles">Low</a> </td> <td style="text-align: right;"><a class="external text" href="http://tools.wmflabs.org/enwp10/cgi-bin/list2.fcgi?run=yes&amp;projecta=Skepticism&amp;importance=Low">2671</a> </td></tr> <tr style="background-color: #dddddd;"> <td> <b>·</b> <a href="/wiki/Category:Unknown-importance_Skepticism_articles" title="Category:Unknown-importance Skepticism articles">Unknown</a> </td> <td style="text-align: right;"><a class="external text" href="http://tools.wmflabs.org/enwp10/cgi-bin/list2.fcgi?run=yes&amp;projecta=Skepticism&amp;importance=Unknown-Class">152</a> </td></tr></tbody></table> </td></tr> <tr> <td> <table class="mw-collapsible mw-collapsed" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="0" width="100%"> <tbody><tr style="background: #bbbbbb;"> <th colspan="2" style="text-align: left; border-top: 1px solid black;"><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Council/Directory" title="Wikipedia:WikiProject Council/Directory">Related WikiProjects</a> </th></tr> <tr style="background-color: #eeeeee;"> <td> <b>·</b> <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Science" title="Wikipedia:WikiProject Science">Science</a> </td> <td style="text-align: right;"><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Science" title="Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Science">talk</a> </td></tr> <tr style="background-color: #eeeeee;"> <td> <b>·</b> <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Physics" title="Wikipedia:WikiProject Physics">Physics</a> </td> <td style="text-align: right;"><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Physics" title="Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Physics">talk</a> </td></tr> <tr style="background-color: #dddddd;"> <td> <b>·</b> <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Medicine" title="Wikipedia:WikiProject 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style="text-align: right;"><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Philosophy" title="Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Philosophy">talk</a> </td></tr> <tr style="background-color: #dddddd;"> <td> <b>·</b> <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Philosophy/Science" title="Wikipedia:WikiProject Philosophy/Science">Philosophy of science</a> </td> <td style="text-align: right;"><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Philosophy" title="Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Philosophy">talk</a> </td></tr></tbody></table> </td></tr> <tr> <td> <table class="mw-collapsible mw-collapsed" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="0" width="100%"> <tbody><tr style="background: #bbbbbb;"> <th colspan="2" style="text-align: left; border-top: 1px solid black;">Projects to monitor </th></tr> <tr style="background-color: #dddddd;"> <td> <b>·</b> <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Alternative_medicine" title="Wikipedia:WikiProject Alternative medicine">Alternative medicine</a> </td> <td style="text-align: right;"><a 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I'm currently working on a draft for an article about David Dees, the conspiracy theory artist. Before I dedicate a lot of time to writing it, I wanted to gauge if people felt like he meets <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:N" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:N">notability guidelines</a>, as well as get feedback on my prospective list of sources (and perhaps see if you all have additional sources I could use). </p><p>My plan is to build off of the (sadly somewhat thin) <a href="https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Dees" class="extiw" title="de:David Dees">German Wikipedia article on Dees</a>, as well as perhaps using the (not-particularly-encyclopedic) <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/David_Dees">RationalWiki article</a> for some supplementary ideas. In terms of sources, I was planning on using Brad Abraham's short documentary <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="http://bradabrahams.net/dyswis"><i>Do You See What I See?</i></a>, the <a href="/wiki/Anti-Defamation_League" title="Anti-Defamation League">ADL</a>'s <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.adl.org/resources/news/david-dees-conspiratorial-artist">2008 profile on him</a>, and <a href="/wiki/Ashley_Feinberg" title="Ashley Feinberg">Ashley Feinberg</a>'s <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="http://web.archive.org/web/20230515044626/https://internet.gawker.com/how-a-sesame-street-illustrator-became-the-truther-scen-1717488190">2015 Gawker article</a>. The German article has additional sources listed, but I think an editor who's fluent in German or French would be necessary to most accurately cite those. </p><p>Any feedback that people could provide would be greatly appreciated! <a href="/wiki/User:Ithinkiplaygames" title="User:Ithinkiplaygames">Ithinkiplaygames</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Ithinkiplaygames" title="User talk:Ithinkiplaygames">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Skepticism#c-Ithinkiplaygames-20240102175600-David_Dees_article" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:56, 2 January 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Ithinkiplaygames-20240102175600-David_Dees_article"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240102175600","author":"Ithinkiplaygames","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Ithinkiplaygames-20240102175600-David_Dees_article","replies":["c-Ithinkiplaygames-20240102190200-Ithinkiplaygames-20240102175600"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Ithinkiplaygames-20240102175600-David_Dees_article"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Ithinkiplaygames-20240102190200-Ithinkiplaygames-20240102175600"></span>Here's the (very preliminary) draft so far: <a href="/wiki/Draft:David_Dees" class="mw-redirect" title="Draft:David Dees">Draft:David Dees</a>. <a href="/wiki/User:Ithinkiplaygames" title="User:Ithinkiplaygames">Ithinkiplaygames</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Ithinkiplaygames" title="User talk:Ithinkiplaygames">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Skepticism#c-Ithinkiplaygames-20240102190200-Ithinkiplaygames-20240102175600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:02, 2 January 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Ithinkiplaygames-20240102190200-Ithinkiplaygames-20240102175600"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240102190200","author":"Ithinkiplaygames","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Ithinkiplaygames-20240102190200-Ithinkiplaygames-20240102175600","replies":["c-Sgerbic-20240102225100-Ithinkiplaygames-20240102190200"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Ithinkiplaygames-20240102190200-Ithinkiplaygames-20240102175600"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Sgerbic-20240102225100-Ithinkiplaygames-20240102190200"></span>Well that is a beginning. I would think he is notable, even I've heard of him before. I'm curious why you are using Draft and not your Sandbox for work? <a href="/wiki/User:Sgerbic" title="User:Sgerbic">Sgerbic</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Sgerbic" title="User talk:Sgerbic">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Skepticism#c-Sgerbic-20240102225100-Ithinkiplaygames-20240102190200" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:51, 2 January 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Sgerbic-20240102225100-Ithinkiplaygames-20240102190200"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240102225100","author":"Sgerbic","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Sgerbic-20240102225100-Ithinkiplaygames-20240102190200","replies":["c-Ithinkiplaygames-20240104045300-Sgerbic-20240102225100"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Sgerbic-20240102225100-Ithinkiplaygames-20240102190200"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Ithinkiplaygames-20240104045300-Sgerbic-20240102225100"></span>Hey, apologies for the late reply! Thanks for the feedback—I'll keep working with my existing sources and I think I can produce something that's at least serviceable</dd> <dd>To be honest, the only reason I'm using Draft is because I'm new to making articles, and Draft was the option that popped up when I used the Article Creation Wizard. I imagine the drawback is that it's editable by others, unlike a sandbox? <a href="/wiki/User:Ithinkiplaygames" title="User:Ithinkiplaygames">Ithinkiplaygames</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Ithinkiplaygames" title="User talk:Ithinkiplaygames">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Skepticism#c-Ithinkiplaygames-20240104045300-Sgerbic-20240102225100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">04:53, 4 January 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Ithinkiplaygames-20240104045300-Sgerbic-20240102225100"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240104045300","author":"Ithinkiplaygames","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Ithinkiplaygames-20240104045300-Sgerbic-20240102225100","replies":["c-Sgerbic-20240104045800-Ithinkiplaygames-20240104045300"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Ithinkiplaygames-20240104045300-Sgerbic-20240102225100"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Sgerbic-20240104045800-Ithinkiplaygames-20240104045300"></span>We can edit each other's sandbox, but we shouldn't. I don't know why it looks odd to use Draft, I suppose there is nothing wrong with it, it just looks odd to me. I think that a sandbox is usually for something you are working on and intend to fuss over for awhile. But draft is something complete that you are hoping for feedback on, like a final product. Anyway, find the at least three really best citations that prove notability. Start there - otherwise you will spend a lot of time on something that will get deleted. Those three citations should be easy to locate - if you are having trouble then he probably isn't going to pass notability. I'm happy to have a look as you need help - ping me. <a href="/wiki/User:Sgerbic" title="User:Sgerbic">Sgerbic</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Sgerbic" title="User talk:Sgerbic">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Skepticism#c-Sgerbic-20240104045800-Ithinkiplaygames-20240104045300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">04:58, 4 January 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Sgerbic-20240104045800-Ithinkiplaygames-20240104045300"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240104045800","author":"Sgerbic","type":"comment","level":5,"id":"c-Sgerbic-20240104045800-Ithinkiplaygames-20240104045300","replies":["c-Ithinkiplaygames-20240104055000-Sgerbic-20240104045800"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Sgerbic-20240104045800-Ithinkiplaygames-20240104045300"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Ithinkiplaygames-20240104055000-Sgerbic-20240104045800"></span>In terms of sources that prove notability, I have the <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="http://web.archive.org/web/20230515044626/https://internet.gawker.com/how-a-sesame-street-illustrator-became-the-truther-scen-1717488190">aforementioned Gawker article</a>, a <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20160406033550/http://uproxx.com/feature/david-dees-conspiracy-theory-meets-art-courtesy-of-the-internet/">2010 Uproxx article</a> in a very similar vein, the <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.adl.org/resources/news/david-dees-conspiratorial-artist">ADL article</a>, and a <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.timesofisrael.com/german-schoolbook-publisher-apologizes-for-anti-semitic-illustration-2/">Times of Israel article</a> about the controversial use of one of his illustrations in a textbook. Think that's enough? I want the general thrust of the article w/r/t his significance to be about how his art has been widely-spread, both as an object of mockery/fascination by non-believers and as a legitimate method of spreading conspiracy rhetoric.</dd> <dd>I also have some questions about <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:PRIMARY" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:PRIMARY">WP:PRIMARY</a>, <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:INDEPENDENT" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:INDEPENDENT">WP:INDEPENDENT</a>, and <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:RELIABILITY" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:RELIABILITY">WP:RELIABILITY</a>. When looking for biographical details, the main sources I've found about his life come from <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="http://bradabrahams.net/dyswis">Abrahams' documentary</a>, an interview appearance on <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://podcastaddict.com/the-michael-decon-program/episode/89430794">some fringe podcast called <i>The Michael Decon Program</i></a>, and <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20080930061429/http://www.deesillustration.com/Bio.htm">Dees' own self-written bio</a>. The documentary is fairly obviously an independent source, but all of the biographical information within comes from direct interviews with Dees—should details sourced like that simply be presented at face value, or should I still preface them as being <i>claimed</i> by Dees. For the other two sources, I think it's fairly obvious that they're not exactly independent, being published by a fellow conspiracy personality and Dees himself respectively, but they also seem to verifiably come straight from the horse's mouth and to contain details of his life that don't seem to be found anywhere else. I'm not sure Dees would have any <i>reason</i> to lie about going to Emory to a random podcast host, but I can concede they're crappy sources, and so am very conflicted about including them. <a href="/wiki/User:Ithinkiplaygames" title="User:Ithinkiplaygames">Ithinkiplaygames</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Ithinkiplaygames" title="User talk:Ithinkiplaygames">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Skepticism#c-Ithinkiplaygames-20240104055000-Sgerbic-20240104045800" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">05:50, 4 January 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Ithinkiplaygames-20240104055000-Sgerbic-20240104045800"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240104055000","author":"Ithinkiplaygames","type":"comment","level":6,"id":"c-Ithinkiplaygames-20240104055000-Sgerbic-20240104045800","replies":["c-Robincantin-20240303131300-Ithinkiplaygames-20240104055000","c-Ed_Gracely-20240906205100-Ithinkiplaygames-20240104055000"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Ithinkiplaygames-20240104055000-Sgerbic-20240104045800"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Robincantin-20240303131300-Ithinkiplaygames-20240104055000"></span>It's okay to use interviews to document mundane details about themselves, such as where they grew up, what sparked their interest in that field, etc. Anything that actually related to notability - awards, employment, claims to fame - should come with an independant source. <a href="/wiki/User:Robincantin" title="User:Robincantin">Robincantin</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Robincantin" title="User talk:Robincantin">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Skepticism#c-Robincantin-20240303131300-Ithinkiplaygames-20240104055000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:13, 3 March 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Robincantin-20240303131300-Ithinkiplaygames-20240104055000"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240303131300","author":"Robincantin","type":"comment","level":7,"id":"c-Robincantin-20240303131300-Ithinkiplaygames-20240104055000","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Robincantin-20240303131300-Ithinkiplaygames-20240104055000"></span></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Ed_Gracely-20240906205100-Ithinkiplaygames-20240104055000"></span>Hey, Ithink -- did you make any progress with this? When I do a Wikipedia search on Dees, I find your page. Was that your intent?<a href="/wiki/User:Ed_Gracely" title="User:Ed Gracely">Ed Gracely</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Ed_Gracely" title="User talk:Ed Gracely">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Skepticism#c-Ed_Gracely-20240906205100-Ithinkiplaygames-20240104055000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:51, 6 September 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Ed_Gracely-20240906205100-Ithinkiplaygames-20240104055000"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240906205100","author":"Ed Gracely","type":"comment","level":7,"id":"c-Ed_Gracely-20240906205100-Ithinkiplaygames-20240104055000","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Ed_Gracely-20240906205100-Ithinkiplaygames-20240104055000"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-Rollinginhisgrave-20240706141100&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-Requested_input_at_Talk:List_of_common_misconceptions_over_lede-20240706141100&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-Rollinginhisgrave-20240706141100-Requested_input_at_Talk:List_of_common_misconceptions_over_lede&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Requested input at Talk:List of common misconceptions over lede&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;Requested input at Talk:List of common misconceptions over lede&quot;}--><h2 id="Requested_input_at_Talk:List_of_common_misconceptions_over_lede" data-mw-thread-id="h-Requested_input_at_Talk:List_of_common_misconceptions_over_lede-20240706141100"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Requested_input_at_Talk:List_of_common_misconceptions_over_lede-20240706141100"></span>Requested input at <a href="/wiki/Talk:List_of_common_misconceptions" title="Talk:List of common misconceptions">Talk:List of common misconceptions</a> over lede<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Requested_input_at_Talk:List_of_common_misconceptions_over_lede-20240706141100"></span></h2><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Rollinginhisgrave-20240706141100","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Requested_input_at_Talk:List_of_common_misconceptions_over_lede-20240706141100","replies":["c-Rollinginhisgrave-20240706141100-Requested_input_at_Talk:List_of_common_misconceptions_over_lede"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-Rollinginhisgrave-20240706141100-Requested_input_at_Talk:List_of_common_misconceptions_over_lede","timestamp":"20240706141100"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__1__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__1__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-Rollinginhisgrave-20240706141100&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-Requested_input_at_Talk:List_of_common_misconceptions_over_lede-20240706141100&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-Rollinginhisgrave-20240706141100-Requested_input_at_Talk:List_of_common_misconceptions_over_lede&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Requested input at Talk:List of common misconceptions over lede&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;Requested input at Talk:List of common misconceptions over lede&quot;}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Rollinginhisgrave-20240706141100-Requested_input_at_Talk:List_of_common_misconceptions_over_lede"></span>Looking for uninvolved editors opinions on the discussion at <a href="/wiki/Talk:List_of_common_misconceptions#Lede_removal" title="Talk:List of common misconceptions">List of common misconceptions</a>. Conversation seems to have stalled. <a href="/wiki/User:Rollinginhisgrave" title="User:Rollinginhisgrave">Rollinginhisgrave</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Rollinginhisgrave" title="User talk:Rollinginhisgrave">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Skepticism#c-Rollinginhisgrave-20240706141100-Requested_input_at_Talk:List_of_common_misconceptions_over_lede" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:11, 6 July 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Rollinginhisgrave-20240706141100-Requested_input_at_Talk:List_of_common_misconceptions_over_lede"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240706141100","author":"Rollinginhisgrave","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Rollinginhisgrave-20240706141100-Requested_input_at_Talk:List_of_common_misconceptions_over_lede","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Rollinginhisgrave-20240706141100-Requested_input_at_Talk:List_of_common_misconceptions_over_lede"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-Spinixster-20240727132300&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-Good_article_reassessment_for_The_CIA_and_September_11-20240727132300&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-Spinixster-20240727132300-Good_article_reassessment_for_The_CIA_and_September_11&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Good article reassessment for The CIA and September 11&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;Good article reassessment for The CIA and September 11&quot;}--><h2 id="Good_article_reassessment_for_The_CIA_and_September_11" data-mw-thread-id="h-Good_article_reassessment_for_The_CIA_and_September_11-20240727132300"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Good_article_reassessment_for_The_CIA_and_September_11-20240727132300"></span>Good article reassessment for <a href="/wiki/The_CIA_and_September_11" title="The CIA and September 11">The CIA and September 11</a><span data-mw-comment-end="h-Good_article_reassessment_for_The_CIA_and_September_11-20240727132300"></span></h2><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Spinixster-20240727132300","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Good_article_reassessment_for_The_CIA_and_September_11-20240727132300","replies":["c-Spinixster-20240727132300-Good_article_reassessment_for_The_CIA_and_September_11"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-Spinixster-20240727132300-Good_article_reassessment_for_The_CIA_and_September_11","timestamp":"20240727132300"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__1__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__1__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-Spinixster-20240727132300&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-Good_article_reassessment_for_The_CIA_and_September_11-20240727132300&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-Spinixster-20240727132300-Good_article_reassessment_for_The_CIA_and_September_11&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Good article reassessment for The CIA and September 11&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;Good article reassessment for The CIA and September 11&quot;}--></div></div></div> <p><a href="/wiki/The_CIA_and_September_11" title="The CIA and September 11"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Spinixster-20240727132300-Good_article_reassessment_for_The_CIA_and_September_11"></span>The CIA and September 11</a> has been nominated for a good article reassessment. If you are interested in the discussion, please participate by adding your comments to the <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Good_article_reassessment/The_CIA_and_September_11/1" title="Wikipedia:Good article reassessment/The CIA and September 11/1">reassessment page</a>. If concerns are not addressed during the review period, the good article status may be removed from the article. <a href="/wiki/User:Spinixster" title="User:Spinixster"><span style="color: #b22e3e; font-family: Elephant;">Spinixster</span></a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Spinixster" title="User talk:Spinixster"><span style="color: #b22e3e; font-size: 9pt;"><i>(trout me!)</i></span></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Skepticism#c-Spinixster-20240727132300-Good_article_reassessment_for_The_CIA_and_September_11" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:23, 27 July 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Spinixster-20240727132300-Good_article_reassessment_for_The_CIA_and_September_11"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240727132300","author":"Spinixster","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Spinixster-20240727132300-Good_article_reassessment_for_The_CIA_and_September_11","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Spinixster-20240727132300-Good_article_reassessment_for_The_CIA_and_September_11"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="RfC_at_VPP_on_reform_of_FTN_and_FRINGE" data-mw-thread-id="h-RfC_at_VPP_on_reform_of_FTN_and_FRINGE"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-RfC_at_VPP_on_reform_of_FTN_and_FRINGE"></span>RfC at VPP on reform of FTN and FRINGE<span data-mw-comment-end="h-RfC_at_VPP_on_reform_of_FTN_and_FRINGE"></span></h2><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-RfC_at_VPP_on_reform_of_FTN_and_FRINGE","replies":[]}}--></div> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-SamuelRiv-20241018003500&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-Wikipedia:Fringe_theories_has_an_RfC-20241018003500&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-SamuelRiv-20241018003500-Wikipedia:Fringe_theories_has_an_RfC&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Wikipedia:Fringe theories has an RfC&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;Wikipedia:Fringe theories has an RfC&quot;}--><h2 id="Wikipedia:Fringe_theories_has_an_RfC" data-mw-thread-id="h-Wikipedia:Fringe_theories_has_an_RfC-20241018003500"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Wikipedia:Fringe_theories_has_an_RfC-20241018003500"></span><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Fringe_theories" title="Wikipedia:Fringe theories">Wikipedia:Fringe theories</a> has an <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:RFC" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:RFC">RfC</a><span data-mw-comment-end="h-Wikipedia:Fringe_theories_has_an_RfC-20241018003500"></span></h2><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-SamuelRiv-20241018003500","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Wikipedia:Fringe_theories_has_an_RfC-20241018003500","replies":["c-SamuelRiv-20241018003500-Wikipedia:Fringe_theories_has_an_RfC"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-SamuelRiv-20241018003500-Wikipedia:Fringe_theories_has_an_RfC","timestamp":"20241018003500"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__1__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__1__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-SamuelRiv-20241018003500&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-Wikipedia:Fringe_theories_has_an_RfC-20241018003500&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-SamuelRiv-20241018003500-Wikipedia:Fringe_theories_has_an_RfC&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Wikipedia:Fringe theories has an RfC&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;Wikipedia:Fringe theories has an RfC&quot;}--></div></div></div> <div class="floatleft" style="margin-bottom:0"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-SamuelRiv-20241018003500-Wikipedia:Fringe_theories_has_an_RfC"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/5/5f/Ambox_warning_orange.svg/48px-Ambox_warning_orange.svg.png" decoding="async" width="48" height="41" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/5/5f/Ambox_warning_orange.svg/72px-Ambox_warning_orange.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/5/5f/Ambox_warning_orange.svg/96px-Ambox_warning_orange.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="378" data-file-height="326"/></span></span></div><p><b><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Fringe_theories" title="Wikipedia:Fringe theories">Wikipedia:Fringe theories</a></b> has an RfC for possible consensus. A discussion is taking place. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments on the <b><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Village_pump_(policy)#RfC_on_reform_of_WP:FTN,_WP:FRINGE" title="Wikipedia:Village pump (policy)">discussion page</a></b>. Thank you. (Note: from continuation of ongoing discussion at Village Pump (policy).) <a href="/wiki/User:SamuelRiv" title="User:SamuelRiv">SamuelRiv</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:SamuelRiv" title="User talk:SamuelRiv">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Skepticism#c-SamuelRiv-20241018003500-Wikipedia:Fringe_theories_has_an_RfC" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:35, 18 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-SamuelRiv-20241018003500-Wikipedia:Fringe_theories_has_an_RfC"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241018003500","author":"SamuelRiv","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-SamuelRiv-20241018003500-Wikipedia:Fringe_theories_has_an_RfC","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-SamuelRiv-20241018003500-Wikipedia:Fringe_theories_has_an_RfC"></span> </p><div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-Gronk_Oz-20241114114900&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-How_to_add_an_article_to_this_WikiProject?-20241114114900&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-Gronk_Oz-20241114114900-How_to_add_an_article_to_this_WikiProject?&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;How to add an article to this WikiProject?&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;How to add an article to this WikiProject?&quot;}--><h2 id="How_to_add_an_article_to_this_WikiProject?" data-mw-thread-id="h-How_to_add_an_article_to_this_WikiProject?-20241114114900"><span id="How_to_add_an_article_to_this_WikiProject.3F"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-How_to_add_an_article_to_this_WikiProject?-20241114114900"></span>How to add an article to this WikiProject?<span data-mw-comment-end="h-How_to_add_an_article_to_this_WikiProject?-20241114114900"></span></h2><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Gronk_Oz-20241114114900","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-How_to_add_an_article_to_this_WikiProject?-20241114114900","replies":["c-Gronk_Oz-20241114114900-How_to_add_an_article_to_this_WikiProject?"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-Sgerbic-20241114163800-Gronk_Oz-20241114114900","timestamp":"20241114163800"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__2__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__2__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-Gronk_Oz-20241114114900&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-How_to_add_an_article_to_this_WikiProject?-20241114114900&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-Gronk_Oz-20241114114900-How_to_add_an_article_to_this_WikiProject?&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;How to add an article to this WikiProject?&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;How to add an article to this WikiProject?&quot;}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Gronk_Oz-20241114114900-How_to_add_an_article_to_this_WikiProject?"></span>There is a new article <a href="/w/index.php?title=Timeline_of_UFO_investigations_and_public_disclosure&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="Timeline of UFO investigations and public disclosure (page does not exist)">Timeline of UFO investigations and public disclosure</a> which seems to be right in your wheelhouse. I have looked through the content here, and I can't see how to add this article for the WikiProject. Can somebody please tell me how to add it? <a href="/wiki/User:Gronk_Oz" title="User:Gronk Oz">Gronk Oz</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Gronk_Oz" title="User talk:Gronk Oz">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Skepticism#c-Gronk_Oz-20241114114900-How_to_add_an_article_to_this_WikiProject?" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:49, 14 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Gronk_Oz-20241114114900-How_to_add_an_article_to_this_WikiProject?"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241114114900","author":"Gronk Oz","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Gronk_Oz-20241114114900-How_to_add_an_article_to_this_WikiProject?","replies":["c-Sgerbic-20241114163800-Gronk_Oz-20241114114900"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Gronk_Oz-20241114114900-How_to_add_an_article_to_this_WikiProject?"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Sgerbic-20241114163800-Gronk_Oz-20241114114900"></span>I think (It's been awhile since I did it) just add the tag to the talk page of the article. <a href="/wiki/User:Sgerbic" title="User:Sgerbic">Sgerbic</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Sgerbic" title="User talk:Sgerbic">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Skepticism#c-Sgerbic-20241114163800-Gronk_Oz-20241114114900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:38, 14 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Sgerbic-20241114163800-Gronk_Oz-20241114114900"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241114163800","author":"Sgerbic","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Sgerbic-20241114163800-Gronk_Oz-20241114114900","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Sgerbic-20241114163800-Gronk_Oz-20241114114900"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-Sgerbic-20241118071000&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-It's_time_to_tackle_the_list_of_books_about_skepticism-20241118071000&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-Sgerbic-20241118071000-It's_time_to_tackle_the_list_of_books_about_skepticism&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;It's time to tackle the list of books about skepticism&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;It's time to tackle the list of books about skepticism&quot;}--><h2 id="It's_time_to_tackle_the_list_of_books_about_skepticism" data-mw-thread-id="h-It&#039;s_time_to_tackle_the_list_of_books_about_skepticism-20241118071000"><span id="It.27s_time_to_tackle_the_list_of_books_about_skepticism"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-It's_time_to_tackle_the_list_of_books_about_skepticism-20241118071000"></span>It's time to tackle the list of books about skepticism<span data-mw-comment-end="h-It's_time_to_tackle_the_list_of_books_about_skepticism-20241118071000"></span></h2><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Sgerbic-20241118071000","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-It's_time_to_tackle_the_list_of_books_about_skepticism-20241118071000","replies":["c-Sgerbic-20241118071000-It's_time_to_tackle_the_list_of_books_about_skepticism"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-Sgerbic-20241118161600-Hob_Gadling-20241118151400","timestamp":"20241118161600"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__6__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__3__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-Sgerbic-20241118071000&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-It's_time_to_tackle_the_list_of_books_about_skepticism-20241118071000&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-Sgerbic-20241118071000-It's_time_to_tackle_the_list_of_books_about_skepticism&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;It's time to tackle the list of books about skepticism&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;It's time to tackle the list of books about skepticism&quot;}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Sgerbic-20241118071000-It's_time_to_tackle_the_list_of_books_about_skepticism"></span>This is a big project, but over the years people have been adding books to this list that are NOT Wikipedia notable. I suggest that people take it in turns to cut this list by about 3/4's - if the book does not have a Wikipedia article, then it needs to go. Double check that there is no article before you remove it from this list, as they might not have been hyperlinked in this list. <a href="/wiki/List_of_books_about_skepticism" title="List of books about skepticism">List of books about skepticism</a> Good luck! <a href="/wiki/User:Sgerbic" title="User:Sgerbic">Sgerbic</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Sgerbic" title="User talk:Sgerbic">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Skepticism#c-Sgerbic-20241118071000-It's_time_to_tackle_the_list_of_books_about_skepticism" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">07:10, 18 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Sgerbic-20241118071000-It's_time_to_tackle_the_list_of_books_about_skepticism"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241118071000","author":"Sgerbic","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Sgerbic-20241118071000-It's_time_to_tackle_the_list_of_books_about_skepticism","replies":["c-Hob_Gadling-20241118075500-Sgerbic-20241118071000"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Sgerbic-20241118071000-It's_time_to_tackle_the_list_of_books_about_skepticism"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Hob_Gadling-20241118075500-Sgerbic-20241118071000"></span>In a first step, I automatically replaced the italic titles by wikilinks. Now we can easily tell the redlinked ones apart from the bluelinked ones. --<a href="/wiki/User:Hob_Gadling" title="User:Hob Gadling">Hob Gadling</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Hob_Gadling" title="User talk:Hob Gadling">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Skepticism#c-Hob_Gadling-20241118075500-Sgerbic-20241118071000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">07:55, 18 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Hob_Gadling-20241118075500-Sgerbic-20241118071000"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241118075500","author":"Hob Gadling","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Hob_Gadling-20241118075500-Sgerbic-20241118071000","replies":["c-Hob_Gadling-20241118115100-Hob_Gadling-20241118075500"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Hob_Gadling-20241118075500-Sgerbic-20241118071000"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Hob_Gadling-20241118115100-Hob_Gadling-20241118075500"></span>It has been reverted by someone who does not get it, but it does not matter. You can see in the old revsion <a class="external autonumber" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=List_of_books_about_skepticism&amp;oldid=1258129965">[1]</a> which books have an article about them and which do not, which was the point. --<a href="/wiki/User:Hob_Gadling" title="User:Hob Gadling">Hob Gadling</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Hob_Gadling" title="User talk:Hob Gadling">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Skepticism#c-Hob_Gadling-20241118115100-Hob_Gadling-20241118075500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:51, 18 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Hob_Gadling-20241118115100-Hob_Gadling-20241118075500"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241118115100","author":"Hob Gadling","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Hob_Gadling-20241118115100-Hob_Gadling-20241118075500","replies":["c-Bruce1ee-20241118132300-Hob_Gadling-20241118115100"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Hob_Gadling-20241118115100-Hob_Gadling-20241118075500"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Bruce1ee-20241118132300-Hob_Gadling-20241118115100"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:Hob_Gadling" title="User:Hob Gadling">Hob Gadling</a>: I <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=List_of_books_about_skepticism&amp;diff=1258145918&amp;oldid=1258129965">reverted your edit</a> because first, you removed the italic markup from book titles. Book titles should always be italicized (see <a href="/wiki/MOS:ITALICTITLE" class="mw-redirect" title="MOS:ITALICTITLE">MOS:ITALICTITLE</a>). Second, you created redlinks by linking the book titles with no Wikipedia articles. Redlinks shouldn't be used unless an article is likely to be created (see <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:NORED" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:NORED">WP:NORED</a>). —<a href="/wiki/User:Bruce1ee" title="User:Bruce1ee">Bruce1ee</a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Bruce1ee" title="User talk:Bruce1ee"><sup><i>talk</i></sup></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Skepticism#c-Bruce1ee-20241118132300-Hob_Gadling-20241118115100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:23, 18 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Bruce1ee-20241118132300-Hob_Gadling-20241118115100"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241118132300","author":"Bruce1ee","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Bruce1ee-20241118132300-Hob_Gadling-20241118115100","replies":["c-Hob_Gadling-20241118151400-Bruce1ee-20241118132300"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Bruce1ee-20241118132300-Hob_Gadling-20241118115100"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Hob_Gadling-20241118151400-Bruce1ee-20241118132300"></span>As I said, my edit has fulfilled its goal even if you do not understand it. The revert does not matter. It's fine. --<a href="/wiki/User:Hob_Gadling" title="User:Hob Gadling">Hob Gadling</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Hob_Gadling" title="User talk:Hob Gadling">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Skepticism#c-Hob_Gadling-20241118151400-Bruce1ee-20241118132300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:14, 18 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Hob_Gadling-20241118151400-Bruce1ee-20241118132300"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241118151400","author":"Hob Gadling","type":"comment","level":5,"id":"c-Hob_Gadling-20241118151400-Bruce1ee-20241118132300","replies":["c-Sgerbic-20241118161600-Hob_Gadling-20241118151400"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Hob_Gadling-20241118151400-Bruce1ee-20241118132300"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Sgerbic-20241118161600-Hob_Gadling-20241118151400"></span>great idea Hob. <a href="/wiki/User:Sgerbic" title="User:Sgerbic">Sgerbic</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Sgerbic" title="User talk:Sgerbic">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Skepticism#c-Sgerbic-20241118161600-Hob_Gadling-20241118151400" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:16, 18 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Sgerbic-20241118161600-Hob_Gadling-20241118151400"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241118161600","author":"Sgerbic","type":"comment","level":6,"id":"c-Sgerbic-20241118161600-Hob_Gadling-20241118151400","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Sgerbic-20241118161600-Hob_Gadling-20241118151400"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></div><!--esi <esi:include src="/esitest-fa8a495983347898/content" /> --><noscript><img src="https://login.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:CentralAutoLogin/start?type=1x1" alt="" width="1" height="1" style="border: none; position: absolute;"></noscript> <div class="printfooter" data-nosnippet="">Retrieved from "<a dir="ltr" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Skepticism&amp;oldid=1258185788">https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Skepticism&amp;oldid=1258185788</a>"</div></div> <div id="catlinks" class="catlinks" data-mw="interface"><div id="mw-normal-catlinks" class="mw-normal-catlinks"><a href="/wiki/Help:Category" title="Help:Category">Categories</a>: <ul><li><a href="/wiki/Category:Project-Class_Skepticism_articles" title="Category:Project-Class Skepticism articles">Project-Class Skepticism articles</a></li><li><a href="/wiki/Category:NA-importance_Skepticism_articles" title="Category:NA-importance Skepticism articles">NA-importance Skepticism articles</a></li><li><a href="/wiki/Category:WikiProject_Skepticism_articles" title="Category:WikiProject Skepticism articles">WikiProject Skepticism articles</a></li></ul></div></div> </div> </main> </div> <div class="mw-footer-container"> <footer id="footer" class="mw-footer" > <ul id="footer-info"> <li id="footer-info-lastmod"> This page was last edited on 18 November 2024, at 16:16<span class="anonymous-show">&#160;(UTC)</span>.</li> <li id="footer-info-copyright"><span class="nowraplinks">This version of the page has been <a href="/wiki/Help:Page_history" title="Help:Page history">revised</a>. 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