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title="Overleg:Brandenburg-Pruisen">Huidige versie van 25 sep 2024 om 19:24</a> <span class="mw-diff-edit"><a href="/w/index.php?title=Overleg:Brandenburg-Pruisen&action=edit" title="Overleg:Brandenburg-Pruisen">bewerken</a></span><span class="mw-diff-timestamp" data-timestamp="2024-09-25T18:24:55Z"></span> <span class="mw-diff-undo"><a href="/w/index.php?title=Overleg:Brandenburg-Pruisen&action=edit&undoafter=68166218&undo=68166238" title="Met "ongedaan maken" draait u deze bewerking terug en komt in het bewerkingsvenster. U kunt in de bewerkingssamenvatting een reden opgeven.">ongedaan maken</a></span></strong></div><div id="mw-diff-ntitle2"><a href="/wiki/Gebruiker:Bean_19" class="mw-userlink" title="Gebruiker:Bean 19" data-mw-revid="68166238"><bdi>Bean 19</bdi></a> <span class="mw-usertoollinks">(<a href="/wiki/Overleg_gebruiker:Bean_19" class="mw-usertoollinks-talk" title="Overleg gebruiker:Bean 19">overleg</a> | <a href="/wiki/Speciaal:Bijdragen/Bean_19" class="mw-usertoollinks-contribs" title="Speciaal:Bijdragen/Bean 19">bijdragen</a>)</span><div class="mw-diff-usermetadata"><div class="mw-diff-userroles"><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Uitgebreid_bevestigde_gebruikers" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:Uitgebreid bevestigde gebruikers">uitgebreid bevestigde gebruikers</a></div><div class="mw-diff-usereditcount"><span>25.736</span> bewerkingen</div></div></div><div id="mw-diff-ntitle3"><abbr class="minoredit" title="Dit is een kleine bewerking">k</abbr><span class="comment mw-comment-none">Geen bewerkingssamenvatting</span></div><div id="mw-diff-ntitle5"></div><div id="mw-diff-ntitle4"> </div></td> </tr><tr> <td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno">Regel 6:</td> <td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno">Regel 6:</td> </tr> <tr> <td class="diff-marker"></td> <td class="diff-context diff-side-deleted"><div>Wat heeft dit te maken met een burgeroorlog?</div></td> <td class="diff-marker"></td> <td class="diff-context diff-side-added"><div>Wat heeft dit te maken met een burgeroorlog?</div></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="diff-marker"></td> <td class="diff-context diff-side-deleted"><br /></td> <td class="diff-marker"></td> <td class="diff-context diff-side-added"><br /></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="diff-marker" data-marker="−"></td> <td class="diff-deletedline diff-side-deleted"><div>De tweede paragraaf slaat nergens op: "het nog niet gedemilitariseerde leger van Lotharingen" bijvoorbeeld; waar slaat dit op? [[Gebruiker:Verd2040|Verd2040]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Verd2040|overleg]]) 28 aug 2024 14:35 (CEST)::Deze tweede paragraaf bedoelt te beschrijven dat de hertog van Lotharingen geen zin had om zich aan het verdrag van Xanthen te houden waardoor Frederik Willem zich genoodzaakt zag om <del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">de</del> <del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">Lotharingers</del> te verdrijven maar door gebrek aan steun mislukte deze campagne. Dat de verdeling van Gulik-Kleef pas later werd opgelost kan misschien anders beschreven worden maar alleen een link naar het conflict vind ik geen goede keuze. [[Gebruiker:Bean 19|Bean 19]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Bean 19|overleg]]) 25 sep 2024 20:21 (CEST)</div></td> <td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td> <td class="diff-addedline diff-side-added"><div>De tweede paragraaf slaat nergens op: "het nog niet gedemilitariseerde leger van Lotharingen" bijvoorbeeld; waar slaat dit op? [[Gebruiker:Verd2040|Verd2040]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Verd2040|overleg]]) 28 aug 2024 14:35 (CEST)::Deze tweede paragraaf bedoelt te beschrijven dat de hertog van Lotharingen geen zin had om zich aan het verdrag van Xanthen te houden waardoor Frederik Willem zich genoodzaakt zag om <ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">het</ins> <ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">Lotharingische leger</ins> te verdrijven maar door gebrek aan steun mislukte deze campagne. Dat de verdeling van Gulik-Kleef pas later werd opgelost kan misschien anders beschreven worden maar alleen een link naar het conflict vind ik geen goede keuze. [[Gebruiker:Bean 19|Bean 19]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Bean 19|overleg]]) 25 sep 2024 20:21 (CEST)</div></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="diff-marker"></td> <td class="diff-context diff-side-deleted"><div> Een grondige herschrijving dringt zich op:chronologisch is het een zootje.</div></td> <td class="diff-marker"></td> <td class="diff-context diff-side-added"><div> Een grondige herschrijving dringt zich op:chronologisch is het een zootje.</div></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="diff-marker"></td> <td class="diff-context diff-side-deleted"><div> Of kan deze paragraaf drastisch worden ingekort met een link naar het desbetreffende conflict?[[Gebruiker:Verd2040|Verd2040]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Verd2040|overleg]]) 11 sep 2024 18:18 (CEST)</div></td> <td class="diff-marker"></td> <td class="diff-context diff-side-added"><div> Of kan deze paragraaf drastisch worden ingekort met een link naar het desbetreffende conflict?[[Gebruiker:Verd2040|Verd2040]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Verd2040|overleg]]) 11 sep 2024 18:18 (CEST)</div></td> </tr> </table><hr class='diff-hr' id='mw-oldid' /> <h2 class='diff-currentversion-title'>Huidige versie van 25 sep 2024 om 19:24</h2> <div class="mw-content-ltr mw-parser-output" lang="nl" dir="ltr"><span data-mw-thread-id="h--2006-07-19T10:11:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h--2006-07-19T10:11:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="h--2006-07-19T10:11:00.000Z"></span></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Känsterle-2006-07-19T10:11:00.000Z"></span><style data-mw-deduplicate="TemplateStyles:r67837795">.mw-parser-output .tmbox{margin:4px 0;border-collapse:collapse;border:1px solid #c0c090;background-color:#f8eaba;box-sizing:border-box}.mw-parser-output .tmbox.mbox-small{font-size:88%;line-height:1.25em}.mw-parser-output .tmbox-speedy{border:2px solid #b32424;background-color:#fee7e6}.mw-parser-output .tmbox-delete{border:2px solid #b32424}.mw-parser-output .tmbox-content{border:2px solid #f28500}.mw-parser-output .tmbox-style{border:2px solid #fc3}.mw-parser-output .tmbox-move{border:2px solid #9932cc}.mw-parser-output .tmbox .mbox-text{border:none;padding:0.25em 0.9em;width:100%}.mw-parser-output .tmbox .mbox-image{border:none;padding:2px 0 2px 0.9em;text-align:center}.mw-parser-output .tmbox .mbox-imageright{border:none;padding:2px 0.9em 2px 0;text-align:center}.mw-parser-output .tmbox .mbox-empty-cell{border:none;padding:0;width:1px}.mw-parser-output .tmbox .mbox-invalid-type{text-align:center}@media(min-width:720px){.mw-parser-output .tmbox{margin:4px 10%}.mw-parser-output .tmbox.mbox-small{clear:right;float:right;margin:4px 0 4px 1em;width:238px}}@media screen{html.skin-theme-clientpref-night .mw-parser-output .tmbox{background-color:#2e2505}html.skin-theme-clientpref-night .mw-parser-output .tmbox-speedy{background-color:#310402}}@media screen and (prefers-color-scheme:dark){html.skin-theme-clientpref-os .mw-parser-output .tmbox{background-color:#2e2505}html.skin-theme-clientpref-os .mw-parser-output .tmbox-speedy{background-color:#310402}}body.skin--responsive .mw-parser-output table.tmbox img{max-width:none!important}</style><table class="plainlinks tmbox tmbox-notice" role="presentation"><tbody><tr><td class="mbox-empty-cell"></td><td class="mbox-text">Dit artikel wordt <a href="/wiki/Categorie:Wikipedia:Uitgelicht_op_hoofdpagina_sinds_2015" title="Categorie:Wikipedia:Uitgelicht op hoofdpagina sinds 2015"> sinds 2015</a> op de hoofdpagina <b>uitgelicht</b> op <b><a href="/wiki/Sjabloon:Uitgelicht_2_juni" title="Sjabloon:Uitgelicht 2 juni">2 juni</a></b>. <i>Zie ook:</i> <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Uitgelicht" title="Wikipedia:Uitgelicht">Wikipedia:Uitgelicht</a>.</td></tr></tbody></table> <p>Nota bene: dit artikel lijkt me alleen zinvol om de term Brandenburg-Pruisen te verklaren. Hier verdere geschiedenis beschrijven zou geheel overlappen met het lemma <a href="/wiki/Pruisen" title="Pruisen">Pruisen</a> (en eventueel het nog uit te breiden <a href="/wiki/Mark_Brandenburg" title="Mark Brandenburg">Mark Brandenburg</a>). <a href="/wiki/Gebruiker:K%C3%A4nsterle" title="Gebruiker:Känsterle">Känsterle</a> <a href="https://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overleg:Brandenburg-Pruisen#c-Känsterle-2006-07-19T10:11:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19 jul 2006 12:11 (CEST)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Känsterle-2006-07-19T10:11:00.000Z"><span id="ooui-php-3" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Reageren","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reageren</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Känsterle-2006-07-19T10:11:00.000Z"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Burgeroorlog" data-mw-thread-id="h-Burgeroorlog-20240828123500"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Burgeroorlog-20240828123500"></span>Burgeroorlog<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Burgeroorlog-20240828123500"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Overleg:Brandenburg-Pruisen&action=edit&section=1" title="De broncode bewerken van de sectie: Burgeroorlog"><span>brontekst bewerken</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-timestampLabel'>Laatste bericht: <a href="#c-Verd2040-20240911161800-Burgeroorlog">2 maanden geleden</a></span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-commentCountLabel'>2 berichten</span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-authorCountLabel'>1 persoon in overleg</span></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Verd2040-20240828123500-Burgeroorlog"></span>Wat heeft dit te maken met een burgeroorlog? </p><p>De tweede paragraaf slaat nergens op: "het nog niet gedemilitariseerde leger van Lotharingen" bijvoorbeeld; waar slaat dit op? <a href="/wiki/Gebruiker:Verd2040" title="Gebruiker:Verd2040">Verd2040</a> (<a href="/wiki/Overleg_gebruiker:Verd2040" title="Overleg gebruiker:Verd2040">overleg</a>) 28 aug 2024 14:35 (CEST)::Deze tweede paragraaf bedoelt te beschrijven dat de hertog van Lotharingen geen zin had om zich aan het verdrag van Xanthen te houden waardoor Frederik Willem zich genoodzaakt zag om het Lotharingische leger te verdrijven maar door gebrek aan steun mislukte deze campagne. Dat de verdeling van Gulik-Kleef pas later werd opgelost kan misschien anders beschreven worden maar alleen een link naar het conflict vind ik geen goede keuze. <a href="/wiki/Gebruiker:Bean_19" title="Gebruiker:Bean 19">Bean 19</a> (<a href="/wiki/Overleg_gebruiker:Bean_19" title="Overleg gebruiker:Bean 19">overleg</a>) <a href="https://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overleg:Brandenburg-Pruisen#c-Verd2040-20240828123500-Burgeroorlog" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">25 sep 2024 20:21 (CEST)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Verd2040-20240828123500-Burgeroorlog"><span id="ooui-php-4" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Reageren","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reageren</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Verd2040-20240828123500-Burgeroorlog"></span> </p> <pre><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Verd2040-20240911161800-Burgeroorlog"></span>Een grondige herschrijving dringt zich op:chronologisch is het een zootje. Of kan deze paragraaf drastisch worden ingekort met een link naar het desbetreffende conflict?<a href="/wiki/Gebruiker:Verd2040" title="Gebruiker:Verd2040">Verd2040</a> (<a href="/wiki/Overleg_gebruiker:Verd2040" title="Overleg gebruiker:Verd2040">overleg</a>) <a href="https://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overleg:Brandenburg-Pruisen#c-Verd2040-20240911161800-Burgeroorlog" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11 sep 2024 18:18 (CEST)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Verd2040-20240911161800-Burgeroorlog"><span id="ooui-php-5" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Reageren","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reageren</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Verd2040-20240911161800-Burgeroorlog"></span> </pre></div><noscript><img src="https://login.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:CentralAutoLogin/start?type=1x1&useformat=desktop" alt="" width="1" height="1" style="border: none; position: absolute;"></noscript> <div class="printfooter" data-nosnippet="">Overgenomen van "<a dir="ltr" href="https://nl.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Overleg:Brandenburg-Pruisen&oldid=68166238">https://nl.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Overleg:Brandenburg-Pruisen&oldid=68166238</a>"</div></div> <div id="catlinks" class="catlinks" data-mw="interface"><div id="mw-normal-catlinks" class="mw-normal-catlinks"><a href="/wiki/Categorie:Alles" title="Categorie:Alles">Categorie</a>: <ul><li><a href="/wiki/Categorie:Wikipedia:Uitgelicht_op_hoofdpagina_sinds_2015" title="Categorie:Wikipedia:Uitgelicht op hoofdpagina sinds 2015">Wikipedia:Uitgelicht op hoofdpagina sinds 2015</a></li></ul></div></div> </div> </main> </div> <div class="mw-footer-container"> <footer id="footer" class="mw-footer" > <ul id="footer-info"> <li id="footer-info-lastmod"> Deze pagina is voor het laatst bewerkt op 25 sep 2024 om 19:24.</li> <li id="footer-info-copyright">De tekst is beschikbaar onder de licentie <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="//creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/4.0/deed.nl">Creative Commons Naamsvermelding/Gelijk delen</a>, er kunnen aanvullende voorwaarden van toepassing zijn. 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