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class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>العربية</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-ary mw-list-item"><a href="https://ary.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%88%D9%8A%D9%83%D9%8A%D9%BE%D9%8A%D8%AF%D9%8A%D8%A7:%D9%85%D9%8A%D8%B2%D8%A7%D9%86_%D9%84%D9%83%D9%84%D8%A7%D9%85" title="ويكيپيديا:ميزان لكلام – Marokkaans Arabisch" lang="ary" hreflang="ary" data-title="ويكيپيديا:ميزان لكلام" data-language-autonym="الدارجة" data-language-local-name="Marokkaans Arabisch" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>الدارجة</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-bjn mw-list-item"><a href="https://bjn.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipidia:Warung_Kupi_(Basa)" title="Wikipidia:Warung Kupi (Basa) – Banjar" lang="bjn" hreflang="bjn" data-title="Wikipidia:Warung Kupi (Basa)" data-language-autonym="Banjar" data-language-local-name="Banjar" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>Banjar</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-bn mw-list-item"><a href="https://bn.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E0%A6%89%E0%A6%87%E0%A6%95%E0%A6%BF%E0%A6%AA%E0%A6%BF%E0%A6%A1%E0%A6%BF%E0%A6%AF%E0%A6%BC%E0%A6%BE:%E0%A6%A4%E0%A6%A5%E0%A7%8D%E0%A6%AF%E0%A6%95%E0%A7%87%E0%A6%A8%E0%A7%8D%E0%A6%A6%E0%A7%8D%E0%A6%B0/%E0%A6%AD%E0%A6%BE%E0%A6%B7%E0%A6%BE" title="উইকিপিডিয়া:তথ্যকেন্দ্র/ভাষা – Bengaals" lang="bn" hreflang="bn" data-title="উইকিপিডিয়া:তথ্যকেন্দ্র/ভাষা" data-language-autonym="বাংলা" data-language-local-name="Bengaals" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>বাংলা</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-bs mw-list-item"><a href="https://bs.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:%C4%8Car%C5%A1ija/Pravopis" title="Wikipedia:Čaršija/Pravopis – Bosnisch" lang="bs" hreflang="bs" data-title="Wikipedia:Čaršija/Pravopis" data-language-autonym="Bosanski" data-language-local-name="Bosnisch" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>Bosanski</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-en mw-list-item"><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Languages" title="Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Languages – Engels" lang="en" hreflang="en" data-title="Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Languages" data-language-autonym="English" data-language-local-name="Engels" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>English</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-eo mw-list-item"><a href="https://eo.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vikipedio:Diskutejo/Lingvejo" title="Vikipedio:Diskutejo/Lingvejo – Esperanto" lang="eo" hreflang="eo" data-title="Vikipedio:Diskutejo/Lingvejo" data-language-autonym="Esperanto" data-language-local-name="Esperanto" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>Esperanto</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-es mw-list-item"><a href="https://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Consultas/Consultas_ling%C3%BC%C3%ADsticas" title="Wikipedia:Consultas/Consultas lingüísticas – Spaans" lang="es" hreflang="es" data-title="Wikipedia:Consultas/Consultas lingüísticas" data-language-autonym="Español" data-language-local-name="Spaans" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>Español</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-fa mw-list-item"><a href="https://fa.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%88%DB%8C%DA%A9%DB%8C%E2%80%8C%D9%BE%D8%AF%DB%8C%D8%A7:%D8%B2%D8%A8%D8%A7%D9%86_%D9%88_%D8%B2%D8%A8%D8%A7%D9%86%E2%80%8C%D8%B4%D9%86%D8%A7%D8%B3%DB%8C" title="ویکی‌پدیا:زبان و زبان‌شناسی – Perzisch" lang="fa" hreflang="fa" data-title="ویکی‌پدیا:زبان و زبان‌شناسی" data-language-autonym="فارسی" data-language-local-name="Perzisch" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>فارسی</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-fi mw-list-item"><a href="https://fi.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Kahvihuone_(kielenhuolto)" title="Wikipedia:Kahvihuone (kielenhuolto) – Fins" lang="fi" hreflang="fi" data-title="Wikipedia:Kahvihuone (kielenhuolto)" data-language-autonym="Suomi" data-language-local-name="Fins" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>Suomi</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-fr mw-list-item"><a href="https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Projet:Langues/Caf%C3%A9_des_linguistes" title="Projet:Langues/Café des linguistes – Frans" lang="fr" hreflang="fr" data-title="Projet:Langues/Café des linguistes" data-language-autonym="Français" data-language-local-name="Frans" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>Français</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-he mw-list-item"><a href="https://he.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D7%95%D7%99%D7%A7%D7%99%D7%A4%D7%93%D7%99%D7%94:%D7%99%D7%99%D7%A2%D7%95%D7%A5_%D7%9C%D7%A9%D7%95%D7%A0%D7%99" title="ויקיפדיה:ייעוץ לשוני – Hebreeuws" lang="he" hreflang="he" data-title="ויקיפדיה:ייעוץ לשוני" data-language-autonym="עברית" data-language-local-name="Hebreeuws" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>עברית</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-hr mw-list-item"><a href="https://hr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedija:Kafi%C4%87/Jezi%C4%8Dna_pitanja" title="Wikipedija:Kafić/Jezična pitanja – Kroatisch" lang="hr" hreflang="hr" data-title="Wikipedija:Kafić/Jezična pitanja" data-language-autonym="Hrvatski" data-language-local-name="Kroatisch" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>Hrvatski</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-hu mw-list-item"><a href="https://hu.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikip%C3%A9dia:Kocsmafal_(nyelvi)" title="Wikipédia:Kocsmafal (nyelvi) – Hongaars" lang="hu" hreflang="hu" data-title="Wikipédia:Kocsmafal (nyelvi)" data-language-autonym="Magyar" data-language-local-name="Hongaars" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>Magyar</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-id mw-list-item"><a href="https://id.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Warung_Kopi_(Bahasa)" title="Wikipedia:Warung Kopi (Bahasa) – Indonesisch" lang="id" hreflang="id" data-title="Wikipedia:Warung Kopi (Bahasa)" data-language-autonym="Bahasa Indonesia" data-language-local-name="Indonesisch" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>Bahasa Indonesia</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-jv mw-list-item"><a href="https://jv.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikip%C3%A9dia:Angkringan_Basa" title="Wikipédia:Angkringan Basa – Javaans" lang="jv" hreflang="jv" data-title="Wikipédia:Angkringan Basa" data-language-autonym="Jawa" data-language-local-name="Javaans" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>Jawa</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-ps mw-list-item"><a href="https://ps.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%88%D9%8A%DA%A9%D9%8A%D9%BE%DB%90%DA%89%D9%8A%D8%A7:%D9%86%D9%88%D9%85_%D9%BE%DA%9A%D8%AA%D9%88_%DA%98%D8%A8%D8%A7%DA%93%D9%87" title="ويکيپېډيا:نوم پښتو ژباړه – Pasjtoe" lang="ps" hreflang="ps" data-title="ويکيپېډيا:نوم پښتو ژباړه" data-language-autonym="پښتو" data-language-local-name="Pasjtoe" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>پښتو</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-ru mw-list-item"><a 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Slowaaks" lang="sk" hreflang="sk" data-title="Wikipédia:Kaviareň/Gramatické" data-language-autonym="Slovenčina" data-language-local-name="Slowaaks" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>Slovenčina</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-sr mw-list-item"><a href="https://sr.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%92%D0%B8%D0%BA%D0%B8%D0%BF%D0%B5%D0%B4%D0%B8%D1%98%D0%B0:%D0%A2%D1%80%D0%B3/%D0%9F%D1%80%D0%B0%D0%B2%D0%BE%D0%BF%D0%B8%D1%81%D0%BD%D0%B0_%D0%BF%D0%B8%D1%82%D0%B0%D1%9A%D0%B0" title="Википедија:Трг/Правописна питања – Servisch" lang="sr" hreflang="sr" data-title="Википедија:Трг/Правописна питања" data-language-autonym="Српски / srpski" data-language-local-name="Servisch" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>Српски / srpski</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-su mw-list-item"><a href="https://su.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Sawala_(basa)" title="Wikipedia:Sawala (basa) – Soendanees" lang="su" hreflang="su" data-title="Wikipedia:Sawala (basa)" data-language-autonym="Sunda" data-language-local-name="Soendanees" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>Sunda</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-th mw-list-item"><a href="https://th.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E0%B8%A7%E0%B8%B4%E0%B8%81%E0%B8%B4%E0%B8%9E%E0%B8%B5%E0%B9%80%E0%B8%94%E0%B8%B5%E0%B8%A2:%E0%B8%9B%E0%B8%B8%E0%B8%88%E0%B8%89%E0%B8%B2-%E0%B8%A7%E0%B8%B4%E0%B8%AA%E0%B8%B1%E0%B8%8A%E0%B8%99%E0%B8%B2/%E0%B8%A0%E0%B8%B2%E0%B8%A9%E0%B8%B2" title="วิกิพีเดีย:ปุจฉา-วิสัชนา/ภาษา – Thai" lang="th" hreflang="th" data-title="วิกิพีเดีย:ปุจฉา-วิสัชนา/ภาษา" data-language-autonym="ไทย" data-language-local-name="Thai" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>ไทย</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-tt mw-list-item"><a href="https://tt.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%92%D0%B8%D0%BA%D0%B8%D0%BF%D0%B5%D0%B4%D0%B8%D1%8F:%D0%A5%D0%B0%D1%82%D0%B0%D0%BB%D0%B0%D1%80" title="Википедия:Хаталар – Tataars" lang="tt" hreflang="tt" data-title="Википедия:Хаталар" 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href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Taalcaf%C3%A9#footer" title="Wikipedia:Taalcafé"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/c/c8/B_down.svg/40px-B_down.svg.png" decoding="async" width="40" height="40" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/c/c8/B_down.svg/60px-B_down.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/c/c8/B_down.svg/80px-B_down.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="160" data-file-height="160"/></a></span></div> <p> <a href="#toc">→ Naar inhoud</a> | <a href="#footer"> → Naar onder</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://nl.wikipedia.org/w/wiki.phtml?title=Wikipedia:Taalcafé&action=edit&section=new">→ Een nieuw onderwerp toevoegen</a> </p> <div style="clear:both; background-color:white; border:1px solid silver; padding:0.5em 0.5em 0 1em;"> <figure class="mw-halign-right" typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/Bestand:Taalcafe_logo2009.png" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7a/Taalcafe_logo2009.png/200px-Taalcafe_logo2009.png" decoding="async" width="200" height="205" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7a/Taalcafe_logo2009.png/300px-Taalcafe_logo2009.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/7a/Taalcafe_logo2009.png 2x" data-file-width="329" data-file-height="337"/></a><figcaption></figcaption></figure> <div style="text-align: center; font-size: x-large; margin: 0.5em;">Welkom in het <i>Taalcafé</i> van Wikipedia</div> <div style="font-size:95%">Het Taalcafé is een <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Overleg_gewenst" title="Wikipedia:Overleg gewenst">overlegruimte</a> voor wie op deze Wikipedia tijd aan <a href="/wiki/Taal" title="Taal">taal</a>, <a href="/wiki/Taalkunde" title="Taalkunde">taalkunde</a> en verwante onderwerpen wil besteden. Dit is tevens een centrale plek ter bespreking en afstemming van artikelen, categorieën, portalen, lijsten en andere zaken met betrekking tot taal.<br/> <p>Specialiteit van dit café is een ruime voorraad <a href="/wiki/Kletskopje" class="mw-redirect" title="Kletskopje">kletskoppen</a> die onze <a href="/wiki/Stamgasten" title="Stamgasten">stamgasten</a> bij voorkeur nuttigen met <i><a href="/wiki/Extince" title="Extince">spraakwater</a></i>. Schroom niet een vraag te stellen, gezellig mee te praten of alleen maar te luisteren naar wat anderen te vertellen hebben. Je leert er in elk geval wat van op het gebied van je moedertaal. Soms komen ook andere levende of dode talen aan bod. </p><p>Voor oud overleg, zie het <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Taalcaf%C3%A9/Archief" title="Wikipedia:Taalcafé/Archief">Archief</a>. Voor een knipoog, zie <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Humor_en_onzin/Lijst_van_door_wikipedisten_geformuleerde_aforismen" title="Wikipedia:Humor en onzin/Lijst van door wikipedisten geformuleerde aforismen">Aforismen</a> en de <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Humor_en_onzin/Taalbanaan" title="Wikipedia:Humor en onzin/Taalbanaan">Taalbanaan</a>. </p> <hr/></div> <div class="uitklappen mw-collapsible mw-collapsed" data-expandtext="Uitklappen" data-collapsetext="Inklappen" style="background-color:var(--background-color-interactive-subtle,#f8f9fa); color:var(--color-base,#202122); border:1px solid var(--border-color-base,#a2a9b1); padding:2px; margin:0.3em 0; font-size:95%; clear:both;"> <div style="text-align:center; padding:1px 5.5em; font-weight:bold; background-color:var(--navigatie-titelbalkkleur,#ddeef8); color:var(--color-base,#202122);"> Handige hulpmiddelen </div> <div class="mw-collapsible-content" style="padding:2px; color:var(--color-base,#202122);"> <div style="-moz-column-width:25em; 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href="http://www.inl.nl/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=78&Itemid=201&lang=nl/">Instituut Nederlandse Lexicologie</a><br/> <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="http://publications.europa.eu/code/">Interinstitutionele schrijfwijzer</a><br/> <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.meertens.knaw.nl/uitleenwoordenbank/">Nederlandse woorden in/uit andere talen</a><br/> <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="http://synoniemen.net">Synoniemen</a><br/> <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="http://taalunieversum.org/sites/tuv/files/downloads/Technische%20Handleiding%202016.pdf">Technische Handleiding Nederlandse spelling</a><br/> <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.vandale.nl/vandale/opzoeken/woordenboek/">Van Dale online (beknopt)</a><br/> <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="http://gtb.inl.nl/?owner=WNT">Woordenboek der Nederlandse Taal</a><br/> <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://woordenlijst.org/">Woordenlijst Nederlandse Taal</a><br/> </p> <dl><dt>Overige taallinks</dt></dl> <p><a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="http://beterspellen.nl/website/index.php">Beter Spellen</a><br/> <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130127153026/http://www.onzetaal.nl/taaladvies/advies/de-dikke-drieduizend-dicteewoorden">Dicteewoorden</a> <small>(archief)</small><br/> <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.lexilogos.com/">Lexilogos</a><br/> <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="http://www.meldpunttaal.nl/">Meldpunt taal</a><br/> <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="http://taalunieversum.org">Taalunieversum</a><br/> </p> <dl><dt>Taaladvies</dt></dl> <p><a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.onzetaal.nl/taaladvies/">Onze Taal</a><br/> <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="http://taaltelefoon.vlaanderen.be/nlapps/default.asp">Taaltelefoon</a><br/> <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="http://www.taaladvies.net">Taalunie</a><br/> <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="http://taal.vrt.be/">VRT Taalnet</a><br/> </p> <dl><dt>Woordenboeken dialecten</dt></dl> <p><a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.woordenbank.be">Woordenbank van de Nederlandse Dialecten</a><br/> <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://ewnd.ivdnt.org/boeken/lijst">e-Woordenbank van de Nederlandse dialecten</a><br/> <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="http://www.antwerps.be/woordenboek">Antwerps Woordenboek</a><br/> <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://woorden.huusvandetaol.nl/">Woordenboek van de Drentse dialecten</a><br/> <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="http://www.groningerwoordenboek.nl/">Groninger Woordenboek</a><br/> <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="http://www.vldn.be/links">links naar Limburgse woordenboeken</a><br/> <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="http://www.limburgswoordenboek.nl/">Limburgs Woordenboek</a><br/> <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.vlaamswoordenboek.be/">Vlaams Woordenboek</a><br/> <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://zeeuwswoordenboek.nl/">Zeeuws Woordenboek</a><br/> </p> <dl><dt>Woordenboeken vreemde talen</dt></dl> <p><i>Deens</i><br/> <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://gammeldanskordbog.dk/">Gammeldansk Ordbog (Ouddeens)</a><br/> <i>Duits</i><br/> <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="http://www.duden.de/">Duden</a><br/> <i>Engels</i><br/> <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="http://www.dictionary.cambridge.org/">Cambridge</a><br/> <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.ldoceonline.com/">Longman Contemporary English</a><br/> <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.merriam-webster.com/">Merriam-Webster</a><br/> <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://quod.lib.umich.edu/m/middle-english-dictionary/">Middle English Dictionary</a><br/> <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="http://www.oxforddictionaries.com/">Oxford</a><br/> <i>Frans</i><br/> <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://academie.atilf.fr/">Académie Française, 4e, 8e en 9e druk</a><br/> <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.le-dictionnaire.com/">Le Dictionnaire</a><br/> <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.larousse.fr/dictionnaires/francais-monolingue">Larousse</a><br/> <i>Grieks</i><br/> <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.greek-language.gr/">Dictionary of Standard Modern Greek</a><br/> <i>Italiaans</i><br/> <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.grandidizionari.it/Dizionario_Italiano.aspx">Dizionario italiano</a><br/> <i>Maori</i><br/> <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://maoridictionary.co.nz">Maori Dictionary</a><br/> <i>Portugees</i><br/> <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.dicio.com.br/">Dicio, Dicionário Online de Português</a><br/> <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.lexico.pt/">Léxico, Dicionário de Português Online</a><br/> <i>Pools</i><br/> <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://sjp.pl/">Słownik języka polskiego</a><br/> <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="http://www.wsjp.pl/">Wielki słownik języka polskiego</a><br/> <i>Russisch</i><br/> <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="http://gramota.ru/">Gramota</a><br/> <i>Spaans</i><br/> <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="http://www.rae.es/recursos/diccionarios/drae">Diccionario de la RAE</a><br/> <i>Zweeds</i><br/> <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://svenska.se/">Svenska Akademien</a><br/> </p> </div></div> </div> <table class="vatop" style="width:100%;"> <tbody><tr> <td style="padding-top:1em;"> </td> <td style="padding:1em;"> </td></tr></tbody></table></div> <p><br/> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="-gem" data-mw-thread-id="h--gem-20241116183200"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h--gem-20241116183200"></span><a href="/wiki/-gem" title="-gem">-gem</a><span data-mw-comment-end="h--gem-20241116183200"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Taalcaf%C3%A9&veaction=edit&section=1" title="Bewerk dit kopje: -gem" class="mw-editsection-visualeditor"><span>bewerken</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-divider"> | </span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Taalcaf%C3%A9&action=edit&section=1" title="De broncode bewerken van de sectie: -gem"><span>brontekst bewerken</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-timestampLabel'>Laatste bericht: <a href="#c-Jeroen_N-20241117095200-Bertux-20241116210300">7 dagen geleden</a></span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-commentCountLabel'>5 berichten</span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-authorCountLabel'>4 personen in overleg</span></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Jeroen_N-20241116183200--gem"></span>Op het artikel <a href="/wiki/-gem" title="-gem">-gem</a> staan sinds begin dit jaar een twijfelsjabloon en meerdere bronverzoeken. Gaat het hier echter niet om hetzelfde onderwerp als <a href="/wiki/-heem" title="-heem">-heem</a>? <a href="/wiki/Gebruiker:Jeroen_N" title="Gebruiker:Jeroen N">Jeroen N</a> (<a href="/wiki/Overleg_gebruiker:Jeroen_N" title="Overleg gebruiker:Jeroen N">overleg</a>) <a href="https://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Taalcaf%C3%A9#c-Jeroen_N-20241116183200--gem" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16 nov 2024 19:32 (CET)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Jeroen_N-20241116183200--gem"><span id="ooui-php-1" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Reageren","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reageren</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Jeroen_N-20241116183200--gem"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-De_Wikischim-20241116190700-Jeroen_N-20241116183200"></span>Strikt genomen wel; etymologisch betreft het hier dezelfde wortel, te herleiden tot <i>haim</i> (in het Nederlands verwant met bijv. <i>ont-<u>heem</u>d</i>). Zie bijv. ook <a rel="nofollow" class="external autonumber" href="https://www.ikhebeenvraag.be/mvc/vraag/17363/Waar-slaat-gem-op-in-tal-van-plaatsnamen-van-gemeentes-en-steden">[1]</a>. Maar belangrijk lijkt me hier eigenlijk vooral de inhoudelijke twijfel? <a href="/wiki/Gebruiker:De_Wikischim" title="Gebruiker:De Wikischim">De Wikischim</a> (<a href="/wiki/Overleg_gebruiker:De_Wikischim" title="Overleg gebruiker:De Wikischim">overleg</a>) <a href="https://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Taalcaf%C3%A9#c-De_Wikischim-20241116190700-Jeroen_N-20241116183200" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16 nov 2024 20:07 (CET)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-De_Wikischim-20241116190700-Jeroen_N-20241116183200"><span id="ooui-php-2" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Reageren","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reageren</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-De_Wikischim-20241116190700-Jeroen_N-20241116183200"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Bertux-20241116210300-De_Wikischim-20241116190700"></span>Ik denk dat de informatie op zich wel klopt. Het zou echter duidelijker zijn als er een overkoepelend artikel was voor uitgangen zoals -em -um, -om, -ham en heim, die in de meeste gevallen te herleiden zijn tot heem of een van zijn <a href="/wiki/Cognaat_(taalkunde)" title="Cognaat (taalkunde)">cognaten</a>. De stelling <i>vrijwel alleen in België</i> is vermoedelijk juist, maar tegelijk volkomen oppervlakkig, want dat is voornamelijk een kwestie van spelling: cognate uitgangen zijn overal te vinden in de lage landen en Duitsland en vermoedelijk in het hele Germaanse taalgebied, ongetwijfeld met overloop naar de Slavische en Romaanse buren.</dd> <dd>Dat het eerste deel <i> meestal naar de naam van een persoon of stam / familie</i> verwijst zou ik niet voor mijn rekening durven nemen, wel dat dat erg vaak het geval is. Het is duidelijk dat <i>heem</i> nadere specificatie behoeft en 'huis van die en die' is erg logisch. Bij <a href="/wiki/Heukelom_(Oisterwijk)" title="Heukelom (Oisterwijk)">Heukelom (Oisterwijk)</a> is het echter hooihuis. Een steekproef op Etymologiebank met nog een stuk of tien plaatsen die op heem te herleiden zijn gaf in bijna alle gevallen een afleiding naar een persoonsnaam of groepsnaam, soms met alternatieven, zoals bij Arnhem en Dokkum. (Wierum heeft een volkomen afwijkende toponymie en Winsum misschien ook.)</dd> <dd>Ik vind het een lastige kwestie. Volgens mij klopt het wat er staat en wordt er onnodig twijfel gezaaid, maar bronnen voor de Belgische situatie heb ik niet. Ik zou voorstellen de bronsjablonen te laten staan en het twijfelsjabloon te verwijderen <a href="/wiki/Gebruiker:Bertux" class="mw-redirect" title="Gebruiker:Bertux"><i> →bertux</i></a> <a href="https://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Taalcaf%C3%A9#c-Bertux-20241116210300-De_Wikischim-20241116190700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16 nov 2024 22:03 (CET)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Bertux-20241116210300-De_Wikischim-20241116190700"><span id="ooui-php-3" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Reageren","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reageren</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Bertux-20241116210300-De_Wikischim-20241116190700"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Matroos_Vos-20241116221500-Bertux-20241116210300"></span>De Etymologiebank heeft een uitgebreide pagina over <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://etymologiebank.nl/trefwoord/heem1"><i>heem</i></a> zelf, en de daaraan verwante woorden, suffixen etc. — <a href="/wiki/Gebruiker:Matroos_Vos" title="Gebruiker:Matroos Vos">Matroos Vos</a> (<a href="/wiki/Overleg_gebruiker:Matroos_Vos" title="Overleg gebruiker:Matroos Vos">overleg</a>) <a href="https://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Taalcaf%C3%A9#c-Matroos_Vos-20241116221500-Bertux-20241116210300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16 nov 2024 23:15 (CET)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Matroos_Vos-20241116221500-Bertux-20241116210300"><span id="ooui-php-4" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Reageren","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reageren</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Matroos_Vos-20241116221500-Bertux-20241116210300"></span></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Jeroen_N-20241117095200-Bertux-20241116210300"></span><style data-mw-deduplicate="TemplateStyles:r60363114">.mw-parser-output .inline-quote-talk{font-family:Georgia,"DejaVu Serif",serif;color:#008560;quotes:none}.mw-parser-output .inline-quote-talk-italic{font-family:inherit;font-style:italic}.mw-parser-output .inline-quote-talk-marks{quotes:"\"""\""}</style><q class="inline-quote-talk">Het zou echter duidelijker zijn als er een overkoepelend artikel was [...]</q> Dat was eigenlijk de insteek van mijn vraag: zouden deze artikelen niet samengevoegd moeten worden (waarbij bronsjablonen inderdaad eventueel kunnen blijven staan, of de betwiste beweringen verwijderd)? <a href="/wiki/Gebruiker:Jeroen_N" title="Gebruiker:Jeroen N">Jeroen N</a> (<a href="/wiki/Overleg_gebruiker:Jeroen_N" title="Overleg gebruiker:Jeroen N">overleg</a>) <a href="https://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Taalcaf%C3%A9#c-Jeroen_N-20241117095200-Bertux-20241116210300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17 nov 2024 10:52 (CET)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Jeroen_N-20241117095200-Bertux-20241116210300"><span id="ooui-php-5" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Reageren","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reageren</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Jeroen_N-20241117095200-Bertux-20241116210300"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="'De'_en_'het'_bij_samenvoegingen" data-mw-thread-id="h-'De'_en_'het'_bij_samenvoegingen-20241118175100"><span id=".27De.27_en_.27het.27_bij_samenvoegingen"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-'De'_en_'het'_bij_samenvoegingen-20241118175100"></span>'De' en 'het' bij samenvoegingen<span data-mw-comment-end="h-'De'_en_'het'_bij_samenvoegingen-20241118175100"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Taalcaf%C3%A9&veaction=edit&section=2" title="Bewerk dit kopje: 'De' en 'het' bij samenvoegingen" class="mw-editsection-visualeditor"><span>bewerken</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-divider"> | </span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Taalcaf%C3%A9&action=edit&section=2" title="De broncode bewerken van de sectie: 'De' en 'het' bij samenvoegingen"><span>brontekst bewerken</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-timestampLabel'>Laatste bericht: <a href="#c-Matroos_Vos-20241119174700-Bdijkstra-20241119171500">4 dagen geleden</a></span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-commentCountLabel'>5 berichten</span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-authorCountLabel'>3 personen in overleg</span></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Smiley.toerist-20241118175100-'De'_en_'het'_bij_samenvoegingen"></span>Zie <a href="/wiki/Treindeur#Externe_schuifdeuren" title="Treindeur">treindeur#Externe schuifdeuren</a>. Is het nu <i>de</i> of <i>het</i> bij metrotype? Op de taalwebsite wordt er niets gezegd over de samenvoeging, maar wel 'het type' en 'de metro'. Heeft het eerste deel van de samenvoeging voorrang?<a href="/wiki/Gebruiker:Smiley.toerist" title="Gebruiker:Smiley.toerist">Smiley.toerist</a> (<a href="/wiki/Overleg_gebruiker:Smiley.toerist" title="Overleg gebruiker:Smiley.toerist">overleg</a>) <a href="https://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Taalcaf%C3%A9#c-Smiley.toerist-20241118175100-'De'_en_'het'_bij_samenvoegingen" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18 nov 2024 18:51 (CET)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Smiley.toerist-20241118175100-'De'_en_'het'_bij_samenvoegingen"><span id="ooui-php-6" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Reageren","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reageren</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Smiley.toerist-20241118175100-'De'_en_'het'_bij_samenvoegingen"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Bdijkstra-20241118180600-Smiley.toerist-20241118175100"></span>Het laatste deel bepaalt altijd het woordgeslacht. Dus <i>het</i> klokje, <i>het</i> schoorsteenmantelklokje, <i>het</i> directeurswoningschoorsteenmantelklokje, <i>het</i> hottentottententententoonstellingstentdirecteurswoningschoorsteenmantelklokje, etc. –<a href="/wiki/Gebruiker:Bdijkstra" title="Gebruiker:Bdijkstra">bdijkstra</a> (<a href="/wiki/Overleg_gebruiker:Bdijkstra#top" title="Overleg gebruiker:Bdijkstra">overleg</a>) <a href="https://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Taalcaf%C3%A9#c-Bdijkstra-20241118180600-Smiley.toerist-20241118175100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18 nov 2024 19:06 (CET)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Bdijkstra-20241118180600-Smiley.toerist-20241118175100"><span id="ooui-php-7" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Reageren","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reageren</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Bdijkstra-20241118180600-Smiley.toerist-20241118175100"></span></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Matroos_Vos-20241119163600-Bdijkstra-20241118180600"></span>In vrijwel alle gevallen bepaalt het laatste deel inderdaad het woordgeslacht, maar er zijn uitzonderingen. In een samenstelling als <i>kabinet-Schoof</i> is <i>kabinet</i> het hoofdwoord en <i>Schoof</i> een nabepaling, en daar bepaalt het eerste deel dus het woordgeslacht. — <a href="/wiki/Gebruiker:Matroos_Vos" title="Gebruiker:Matroos Vos">Matroos Vos</a> (<a href="/wiki/Overleg_gebruiker:Matroos_Vos" title="Overleg gebruiker:Matroos Vos">overleg</a>) <a href="https://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Taalcaf%C3%A9#c-Matroos_Vos-20241119163600-Bdijkstra-20241118180600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19 nov 2024 17:36 (CET)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Matroos_Vos-20241119163600-Bdijkstra-20241118180600"><span id="ooui-php-8" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Reageren","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reageren</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Matroos_Vos-20241119163600-Bdijkstra-20241118180600"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Bdijkstra-20241119171500-Matroos_Vos-20241119163600"></span>Ik ging uit van een context van samenstellingen van zelfstandige naamwoorden en ik neem aan dat "Schoof" (hierin) geen znw is. –<a href="/wiki/Gebruiker:Bdijkstra" title="Gebruiker:Bdijkstra">bdijkstra</a> (<a href="/wiki/Overleg_gebruiker:Bdijkstra#top" title="Overleg gebruiker:Bdijkstra">overleg</a>) <a href="https://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Taalcaf%C3%A9#c-Bdijkstra-20241119171500-Matroos_Vos-20241119163600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19 nov 2024 18:15 (CET)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Bdijkstra-20241119171500-Matroos_Vos-20241119163600"><span id="ooui-php-9" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Reageren","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reageren</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Bdijkstra-20241119171500-Matroos_Vos-20241119163600"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Matroos_Vos-20241119174700-Bdijkstra-20241119171500"></span>Toch wel. Eigennamen zijn zelfstandige naamwoorden met een woordgeslacht ("dit is niet <b>de</b> Schoof die ik van vroeger ken"), en in dit geval wordt die eigennaam dus gebruikt als nabepaling. — <a href="/wiki/Gebruiker:Matroos_Vos" title="Gebruiker:Matroos Vos">Matroos Vos</a> (<a href="/wiki/Overleg_gebruiker:Matroos_Vos" title="Overleg gebruiker:Matroos Vos">overleg</a>) <a href="https://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Taalcaf%C3%A9#c-Matroos_Vos-20241119174700-Bdijkstra-20241119171500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19 nov 2024 18:47 (CET)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Matroos_Vos-20241119174700-Bdijkstra-20241119171500"><span id="ooui-php-10" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Reageren","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reageren</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Matroos_Vos-20241119174700-Bdijkstra-20241119171500"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="vertaling_deurtype" data-mw-thread-id="h-vertaling_deurtype-20241121110600"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-vertaling_deurtype-20241121110600"></span>vertaling deurtype<span data-mw-comment-end="h-vertaling_deurtype-20241121110600"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Taalcaf%C3%A9&veaction=edit&section=3" title="Bewerk dit kopje: vertaling deurtype" class="mw-editsection-visualeditor"><span>bewerken</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-divider"> | </span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Taalcaf%C3%A9&action=edit&section=3" title="De broncode bewerken van de sectie: vertaling deurtype"><span>brontekst bewerken</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-timestampLabel'>Laatste bericht: <a href="#c-Smiley.toerist-20241122120600-Bertux-20241121124400">2 dagen geleden</a></span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-commentCountLabel'>8 berichten</span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-authorCountLabel'>2 personen in overleg</span></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Smiley.toerist-20241121110600-vertaling_deurtype"></span>In <a href="/wiki/Treindeur" title="Treindeur">treindeur</a> (onderaan bij tramdeuren) gebruikte ik de term <b>naar binnen glijdende tramdeur</b>. In de Commons heb ik een hernoemingsvoorstel ingediend (<a class="external free" href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Village_pump#Rename_proposal_for_Rail_vehicle_inward_slide_doors_and_Tram_inward_slide_doors">https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Village_pump#Rename_proposal_for_Rail_vehicle_inward_slide_doors_and_Tram_inward_slide_doors</a> ook de discussie Tram types and tram doors in Poland). Hoe vertaal ik dat in het Nederlands? een naar binnen zwenkende deur?<a href="/wiki/Gebruiker:Smiley.toerist" title="Gebruiker:Smiley.toerist">Smiley.toerist</a> (<a href="/wiki/Overleg_gebruiker:Smiley.toerist" title="Overleg gebruiker:Smiley.toerist">overleg</a>) <a href="https://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Taalcaf%C3%A9#c-Smiley.toerist-20241121110600-vertaling_deurtype" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21 nov 2024 12:06 (CET)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Smiley.toerist-20241121110600-vertaling_deurtype"><span id="ooui-php-11" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Reageren","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" 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2024 12:28 (CET)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Smiley.toerist-20241121112800-Smiley.toerist-20241121110600"><span id="ooui-php-12" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Reageren","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reageren</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Smiley.toerist-20241121112800-Smiley.toerist-20241121110600"></span></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Bertux-20241121115000-Smiley.toerist-20241121110600"></span>Als de deur met een draaiende beweging naar binnen gaat lijkt zwenkend of draaiend logisch, als de deur overwegend schuift is glijdend of schuivend voor de hand liggend <a href="/wiki/Gebruiker:Bertux" class="mw-redirect" title="Gebruiker:Bertux"><i> →bertux</i></a> <a href="https://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Taalcaf%C3%A9#c-Bertux-20241121115000-Smiley.toerist-20241121110600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21 nov 2024 12:50 (CET)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Bertux-20241121115000-Smiley.toerist-20241121110600"><span id="ooui-php-13" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Reageren","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reageren</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Bertux-20241121115000-Smiley.toerist-20241121110600"></span></dd></dl> <span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Smiley.toerist-20241121124000-vertaling_deurtype"></span><figure class="mw-default-size" typeof="mw:File/Thumb"><a href="/wiki/Bestand:GlideSlideDoor.gif" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/92/GlideSlideDoor.gif/260px-GlideSlideDoor.gif" decoding="async" width="260" height="130" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/92/GlideSlideDoor.gif 1.5x" data-file-width="320" data-file-height="160"/></a><figcaption></figcaption></figure> <dl><dd><dl><dd>Bij sommige deurtechnieken zoals een vouwdeuren heb je een geleidingsrail waar een deel van de deur aan bevestigd is. Alleen bij scharnierdeuren en zwenkzwaaideuren is er geen geleidingsrail en is van schuiven geen sprake. De zwenkschuifdeuren hangen meestal aan een uitschuifbare arm. Alleen bij ingebouwde schuifdeuren en externe schuifdeuren zijn er beneden rails waar het volle gewicht eventueel op wordt gedragen. Alleen daar is er echt sprake van <i>schuiven</i> (en in de praktijk meestal op kleine wieltjes om de weerstand te verminderen).<a href="/wiki/Gebruiker:Smiley.toerist" title="Gebruiker:Smiley.toerist">Smiley.toerist</a> (<a href="/wiki/Overleg_gebruiker:Smiley.toerist" title="Overleg gebruiker:Smiley.toerist">overleg</a>) <a href="https://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Taalcaf%C3%A9#c-Smiley.toerist-20241121124000-vertaling_deurtype" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21 nov 2024 13:40 (CET)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Smiley.toerist-20241121124000-vertaling_deurtype"><span id="ooui-php-14" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Reageren","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reageren</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Smiley.toerist-20241121124000-vertaling_deurtype"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Bertux-20241121124400-Smiley.toerist-20241121124000"></span>De blauwe dingen zullen de deuren zijn, dan zou ik het inderdaad zwenkend noemen, niet schuivend of draaiend <a href="/wiki/Gebruiker:Bertux" class="mw-redirect" title="Gebruiker:Bertux"><i> →bertux</i></a> <a href="https://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Taalcaf%C3%A9#c-Bertux-20241121124400-Smiley.toerist-20241121124000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21 nov 2024 13:44 (CET)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Bertux-20241121124400-Smiley.toerist-20241121124000"><span id="ooui-php-15" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Reageren","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reageren</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Bertux-20241121124400-Smiley.toerist-20241121124000"></span></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Smiley.toerist-20241121233400-Bertux-20241121124400"></span>Naar binnen zwenkende deur?<a href="/wiki/Gebruiker:Smiley.toerist" title="Gebruiker:Smiley.toerist">Smiley.toerist</a> (<a href="/wiki/Overleg_gebruiker:Smiley.toerist" title="Overleg gebruiker:Smiley.toerist">overleg</a>) <a href="https://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Taalcaf%C3%A9#c-Smiley.toerist-20241121233400-Bertux-20241121124400" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22 nov 2024 00:34 (CET)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Smiley.toerist-20241121233400-Bertux-20241121124400"><span id="ooui-php-16" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Reageren","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reageren</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Smiley.toerist-20241121233400-Bertux-20241121124400"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Bertux-20241122073500-Smiley.toerist-20241121233400"></span>Ja. Ik kan althans geen redelijk alternatief bedenken <a href="/wiki/Gebruiker:Bertux" class="mw-redirect" title="Gebruiker:Bertux"><i> →bertux</i></a> <a href="https://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Taalcaf%C3%A9#c-Bertux-20241122073500-Smiley.toerist-20241121233400" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22 nov 2024 08:35 (CET)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Bertux-20241122073500-Smiley.toerist-20241121233400"><span id="ooui-php-17" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Reageren","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reageren</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Bertux-20241122073500-Smiley.toerist-20241121233400"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Smiley.toerist-20241122120600-Bertux-20241121124400"></span>Hoofdstuk <b>Naar binnen zwenkende deuren</b> nu toegevoegd aan <a href="/wiki/Treindeur" title="Treindeur">treindeur</a> en het hoofdstuk <b>tramdeuren</b> aangepast. Er is een klein beetje doublure daar PCC-deuren eveneens <b>Naar binnen zwenkende deuren</b> zijn, maar wel een bijzonder variant. <a href="/wiki/Gebruiker:Smiley.toerist" title="Gebruiker:Smiley.toerist">Smiley.toerist</a> (<a href="/wiki/Overleg_gebruiker:Smiley.toerist" title="Overleg gebruiker:Smiley.toerist">overleg</a>) <a href="https://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Taalcaf%C3%A9#c-Smiley.toerist-20241122120600-Bertux-20241121124400" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22 nov 2024 13:06 (CET)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Smiley.toerist-20241122120600-Bertux-20241121124400"><span id="ooui-php-18" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Reageren","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reageren</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Smiley.toerist-20241122120600-Bertux-20241121124400"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl>    </div><noscript><img src="https://login.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:CentralAutoLogin/start?type=1x1" alt="" width="1" height="1" style="border: none; position: absolute;"></noscript> <div class="printfooter" data-nosnippet="">Overgenomen van "<a dir="ltr" href="https://nl.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Taalcafé&oldid=68416916">https://nl.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Taalcafé&oldid=68416916</a>"</div></div> <div id="catlinks" class="catlinks" data-mw="interface"><div id="mw-normal-catlinks" class="mw-normal-catlinks"><a href="/wiki/Categorie:Alles" title="Categorie:Alles">Categorie</a>: <ul><li><a href="/wiki/Categorie:Wikipedia:Overlegruimte" title="Categorie:Wikipedia:Overlegruimte">Wikipedia:Overlegruimte</a></li></ul></div></div> </div> </main> </div> <div class="mw-footer-container"> <footer id="footer" class="mw-footer" > <ul id="footer-info"> <li id="footer-info-lastmod"> Deze pagina is voor het laatst bewerkt op 22 nov 2024 om 13:06.</li> <li id="footer-info-copyright">De tekst is beschikbaar onder de licentie <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="//creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/4.0/deed.nl">Creative Commons Naamsvermelding/Gelijk delen</a>, er kunnen aanvullende voorwaarden van toepassing zijn. 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