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table.ambox-serious{border-left:10px solid #b22222}.mw-parser-output table.ambox-content{border-left:10px solid #f28500}.mw-parser-output table.ambox-style{border-left:10px solid #f4c430}.mw-parser-output table.ambox-merge{border-left:10px solid #9932cc}.mw-parser-output table.ambox-protection{border-left:10px solid #bba}.mw-parser-output .ambox+link+.ambox{border-top-width:0}.mw-parser-output .messagebox{border:1px solid #aaaaaa;background-color:#f8f9fa;width:80%;margin:0 auto 1em auto;padding:.2em}.mw-parser-output .messagebox.merge{border:1px solid #c0b8cc;background-color:#f0e5ff;text-align:center}.mw-parser-output .messagebox.cleanup{border:1px solid #9f9fff;background-color:#efefff;text-align:center}.mw-parser-output .messagebox.standard-talk{border:1px solid #c0c090;background-color:#f8eaba}.mw-parser-output .messagebox.nested-talk{border:1px solid #c0c090;background-color:#f8eaba;width:100%;margin:2px 4px}</style><table class="messagebox standard-talk metadata ambox ambox-notice" style=""> <tbody><tr> <td class="ambox-image"> <div style="width:52px;"><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/Fil:Emblem-WikiVote.svg" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/92/Emblem-WikiVote.svg/40px-Emblem-WikiVote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="40" height="40" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/92/Emblem-WikiVote.svg/60px-Emblem-WikiVote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/92/Emblem-WikiVote.svg/80px-Emblem-WikiVote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="48" data-file-height="48" /></a></span></div></td> <td class="ambox-text">Sidan <b>Komplex fråga</b> har tidigare varit <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Sidor_f%C3%B6reslagna_f%C3%B6r_radering/Komplex_fr%C3%A5ga" title="Wikipedia:Sidor föreslagna för radering/Komplex fråga">föreslagen för radering</a>. <br /><b>Resultat:</b> behåll <a href="/wiki/Anv%C3%A4ndare:Tostarpadius" title="Användare:Tostarpadius">Tostarpadius</a> (<a href="/wiki/Anv%C3%A4ndardiskussion:Tostarpadius" title="Användardiskussion:Tostarpadius">diskussion</a>) 30 maj 2019</td> </tr> </tbody></table> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Andreas1974-2019-01-12T11:43:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Vad\u00e5_\"komplex_fr\u00e5ga\"?-2019-01-12T11:43:00.000Z","replies":["c-Andreas1974-2019-01-12T11:43:00.000Z-Vad\u00e5_\"komplex_fr\u00e5ga\"?"],"text":"Vad\u00e5 \"komplex fr\u00e5ga\"?","linkableTitle":"Vad\u00e5 \"komplex fr\u00e5ga\"?"}--><h2 id="Vadå_"komplex_fråga"?" data-mw-thread-id="h-Vadå_"komplex_fråga"?-2019-01-12T11:43:00.000Z"><span id="Vad.C3.A5_.22komplex_fr.C3.A5ga.22.3F"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Vadå_"komplex_fråga"?-2019-01-12T11:43:00.000Z"></span>Vadå "komplex fråga"?<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Vadå_"komplex_fråga"?-2019-01-12T11:43:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Diskussion:Komplex_fr%C3%A5ga&action=edit&section=1" title="Redigera avsnitts källkod: Vadå "komplex fråga"?"><span>redigera wikitext</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Andreas1974-2019-01-12T11:43:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Vad\u00e5_\"komplex_fr\u00e5ga\"?-2019-01-12T11:43:00.000Z","replies":["c-Andreas1974-2019-01-12T11:43:00.000Z-Vad\u00e5_\"komplex_fr\u00e5ga\"?"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-Edaen-2019-05-26T01:43:00.000Z-Andjack-2019-02-18T21:02:00.000Z","timestamp":"2019-05-26T01:43:00.000Z"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__4__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__4__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Andreas1974-2019-01-12T11:43:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Vad\u00e5_\"komplex_fr\u00e5ga\"?-2019-01-12T11:43:00.000Z","replies":["c-Andreas1974-2019-01-12T11:43:00.000Z-Vad\u00e5_\"komplex_fr\u00e5ga\"?"],"text":"Vad\u00e5 \"komplex fr\u00e5ga\"?","linkableTitle":"Vad\u00e5 \"komplex fr\u00e5ga\"?"}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Andreas1974-2019-01-12T11:43:00.000Z-Vadå_"komplex_fråga"?"></span>Jag förordar radering av hela denna artikel, men jag är ingen van Wikipedia-användare så jag har kanske applicerat raderingsförslagsmallen felaktigt. "Komplex fråga" är inget uppslagsord som fungerar på svenska. Betydelsen i "komplex fråga", att frågans svar automatiskt skulle ställa den som besvarar frågan i dålig dager, är felaktig. Det är kanske en innebörd som finns på engelska? En "retorisk rävsax" är åtminstone bättre än "komplex fråga", vilket nu utgör en helt felaktigt uppslagsord (felaktig rubrik). --<a href="/wiki/Anv%C3%A4ndare:Andreas1974" title="Användare:Andreas1974">Andreas1974</a> (<a href="/wiki/Anv%C3%A4ndardiskussion:Andreas1974" title="Användardiskussion:Andreas1974">diskussion</a>) <a href="https://sv.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diskussion:Komplex_fr%C3%A5ga#c-Andreas1974-2019-01-12T11:43:00.000Z-Vadå_"komplex_fråga"?" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12 januari 2019 kl. 12.43 (CET)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Andreas1974-2019-01-12T11:43:00.000Z-Vadå_"komplex_fråga"?"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">svara</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2019-01-12T11:43:00.000Z","author":"Andreas1974","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Andreas1974-2019-01-12T11:43:00.000Z-Vad\u00e5_\"komplex_fr\u00e5ga\"?","replies":["c-Esquilo-2019-01-12T12:07:00.000Z-Andreas1974-2019-01-12T11:43:00.000Z","c-Andjack-2019-02-18T21:02:00.000Z-Andreas1974-2019-01-12T11:43:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Andreas1974-2019-01-12T11:43:00.000Z-Vadå_"komplex_fråga"?"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Esquilo-2019-01-12T12:07:00.000Z-Andreas1974-2019-01-12T11:43:00.000Z"></span>Raderas tycker jag absolut inte att den ska. Som <a href="/wiki/Stilfigur" title="Stilfigur">stilfigur</a> (heter det va?) är den ju etablerad, men vad själva uppslagsordet ska vara kan vi ju diskutera. /<a href="/wiki/Anv%C3%A4ndare:Esquilo" title="Användare:Esquilo">ℇsquilo</a> <a href="https://sv.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diskussion:Komplex_fr%C3%A5ga#c-Esquilo-2019-01-12T12:07:00.000Z-Andreas1974-2019-01-12T11:43:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12 januari 2019 kl. 13.07 (CET)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Esquilo-2019-01-12T12:07:00.000Z-Andreas1974-2019-01-12T11:43:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">svara</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2019-01-12T12:07:00.000Z","author":"Esquilo","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Esquilo-2019-01-12T12:07:00.000Z-Andreas1974-2019-01-12T11:43:00.000Z","replies":[],"displayName":"\u2107squilo"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Esquilo-2019-01-12T12:07:00.000Z-Andreas1974-2019-01-12T11:43:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Andjack-2019-02-18T21:02:00.000Z-Andreas1974-2019-01-12T11:43:00.000Z"></span>Vad är det för fel med "Ledande fråga" som det står i artikeln <a href="/wiki/Argumentationsfel#Ledande_fråga/presupposition/komplex_fråga" title="Argumentationsfel">Argumentatinsfel, Ledande fråga/presupposotion/Komplex fråga</a>? Det har i vart fall jag hör oftare om den sortens stilfigur. Men jag är knappast en referens i området, så det går ju inte att hävda auktoritetstro av det jag skrivit. :-) /<a href="/wiki/Anv%C3%A4ndare:Andjack" title="Användare:Andjack">a'Anders</a> (<a href="/wiki/Anv%C3%A4ndardiskussion:Andjack" title="Användardiskussion:Andjack">diskussion</a>) <a href="https://sv.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diskussion:Komplex_fr%C3%A5ga#c-Andjack-2019-02-18T21:02:00.000Z-Andreas1974-2019-01-12T11:43:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18 februari 2019 kl. 22.02 (CET)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Andjack-2019-02-18T21:02:00.000Z-Andreas1974-2019-01-12T11:43:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">svara</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2019-02-18T21:02:00.000Z","author":"Andjack","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Andjack-2019-02-18T21:02:00.000Z-Andreas1974-2019-01-12T11:43:00.000Z","replies":["c-Edaen-2019-05-26T01:43:00.000Z-Andjack-2019-02-18T21:02:00.000Z"],"displayName":"a'Anders"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Andjack-2019-02-18T21:02:00.000Z-Andreas1974-2019-01-12T11:43:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Edaen-2019-05-26T01:43:00.000Z-Andjack-2019-02-18T21:02:00.000Z"></span>I Jan Evers <i><a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://libris.kb.se/bib/7270567">Argumentationsanalys för jurister</a></i> finns det ett avsnitt i kapitlet <i>Osaklighet</i> som heter just <i>Komplexa frågor</i>. <a href="/wiki/Anv%C3%A4ndare:Edaen" title="Användare:Edaen">Edaen</a> (<a href="/wiki/Anv%C3%A4ndardiskussion:Edaen" title="Användardiskussion:Edaen">diskussion</a>) <a href="https://sv.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diskussion:Komplex_fr%C3%A5ga#c-Edaen-2019-05-26T01:43:00.000Z-Andjack-2019-02-18T21:02:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">26 maj 2019 kl. 03.43 (CEST)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Edaen-2019-05-26T01:43:00.000Z-Andjack-2019-02-18T21:02:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">svara</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2019-05-26T01:43:00.000Z","author":"Edaen","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Edaen-2019-05-26T01:43:00.000Z-Andjack-2019-02-18T21:02:00.000Z","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Edaen-2019-05-26T01:43:00.000Z-Andjack-2019-02-18T21:02:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Mrund-2009-09-04T09:47:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Vad\u00e5_\"r\u00e4vsax\"?-2009-09-04T09:47:00.000Z","replies":["c-Mrund-2009-09-04T09:47:00.000Z-Vad\u00e5_\"r\u00e4vsax\"?"],"text":"Vad\u00e5 \"r\u00e4vsax\"?","linkableTitle":"Vad\u00e5 \"r\u00e4vsax\"?"}--><h2 id="Vadå_"rävsax"?" data-mw-thread-id="h-Vadå_"rävsax"?-2009-09-04T09:47:00.000Z"><span id="Vad.C3.A5_.22r.C3.A4vsax.22.3F"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Vadå_"rävsax"?-2009-09-04T09:47:00.000Z"></span>Vadå "rävsax"?<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Vadå_"rävsax"?-2009-09-04T09:47:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Diskussion:Komplex_fr%C3%A5ga&action=edit&section=2" title="Redigera avsnitts källkod: Vadå "rävsax"?"><span>redigera wikitext</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Mrund-2009-09-04T09:47:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Vad\u00e5_\"r\u00e4vsax\"?-2009-09-04T09:47:00.000Z","replies":["c-Mrund-2009-09-04T09:47:00.000Z-Vad\u00e5_\"r\u00e4vsax\"?"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-Janders-2020-10-10T11:22:00.000Z-Hejkompis-2010-03-15T17:34:00.000Z","timestamp":"2020-10-10T11:22:00.000Z"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__5__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__4__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Mrund-2009-09-04T09:47:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Vad\u00e5_\"r\u00e4vsax\"?-2009-09-04T09:47:00.000Z","replies":["c-Mrund-2009-09-04T09:47:00.000Z-Vad\u00e5_\"r\u00e4vsax\"?"],"text":"Vad\u00e5 \"r\u00e4vsax\"?","linkableTitle":"Vad\u00e5 \"r\u00e4vsax\"?"}--></div></div></div> <p><b><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Mrund-2009-09-04T09:47:00.000Z-Vadå_"rävsax"?"></span>Jag har aldrig</b> stött på uttrycket rävsax för den berörda typen av fråga utanför Wikipedia. "Rävsax" brukar betyda en obehaglig situation med få utvägar i största allmänhet. Vad skall den här artikeln egentligen heta? "Komplex fråga" är alldeles för generellt och "plurium interrogationum" är lite väl latinskt. <a href="/wiki/Anv%C3%A4ndare:Mrund" title="Användare:Mrund">Martin Rundkvist</a> <a href="https://sv.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diskussion:Komplex_fr%C3%A5ga#c-Mrund-2009-09-04T09:47:00.000Z-Vadå_"rävsax"?" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">4 september 2009 kl. 11.47 (CEST)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Mrund-2009-09-04T09:47:00.000Z-Vadå_"rävsax"?"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">svara</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2009-09-04T09:47:00.000Z","author":"Mrund","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Mrund-2009-09-04T09:47:00.000Z-Vad\u00e5_\"r\u00e4vsax\"?","replies":["c-Salsero-2009-09-04T13:19:00.000Z-Mrund-2009-09-04T09:47:00.000Z"],"displayName":"Martin Rundkvist"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Mrund-2009-09-04T09:47:00.000Z-Vadå_"rävsax"?"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Salsero-2009-09-04T13:19:00.000Z-Mrund-2009-09-04T09:47:00.000Z"></span>Jag har tyvärr ingen källa för benämningen "rävsax" - jag fick lära mig det under en föreläsning i retorik på Institutionen för Medie- och Kommunikationsvetenskap vid Lunds Universitet, och den fanns också med i ett häfte om troper och stilistiska figurer som såldes av institutionen. Att du själv aldrig har hört uttrycket är kanske inte så relevent - det finns mycket man inte hinner höra under en livstid. /<a href="/wiki/Anv%C3%A4ndare:Salsero" title="Användare:Salsero">/Salsero</a> <a href="https://sv.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diskussion:Komplex_fr%C3%A5ga#c-Salsero-2009-09-04T13:19:00.000Z-Mrund-2009-09-04T09:47:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">4 september 2009 kl. 15.19 (CEST)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Salsero-2009-09-04T13:19:00.000Z-Mrund-2009-09-04T09:47:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">svara</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2009-09-04T13:19:00.000Z","author":"Salsero","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Salsero-2009-09-04T13:19:00.000Z-Mrund-2009-09-04T09:47:00.000Z","replies":["c-Mrund-2009-09-04T20:58:00.000Z-Salsero-2009-09-04T13:19:00.000Z"],"displayName":"\/Salsero"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Salsero-2009-09-04T13:19:00.000Z-Mrund-2009-09-04T09:47:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><b><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Mrund-2009-09-04T20:58:00.000Z-Salsero-2009-09-04T13:19:00.000Z"></span>Jag har</b> ett hyfsat ordförråd. Leta gärna upp ett belägg för att ordet används i den bemärkelse det handlar om här. <a href="/wiki/Anv%C3%A4ndare:Mrund" title="Användare:Mrund">Martin Rundkvist</a> <a href="https://sv.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diskussion:Komplex_fr%C3%A5ga#c-Mrund-2009-09-04T20:58:00.000Z-Salsero-2009-09-04T13:19:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">4 september 2009 kl. 22.58 (CEST)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Mrund-2009-09-04T20:58:00.000Z-Salsero-2009-09-04T13:19:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">svara</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2009-09-04T20:58:00.000Z","author":"Mrund","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Mrund-2009-09-04T20:58:00.000Z-Salsero-2009-09-04T13:19:00.000Z","replies":["c-Hejkompis-2010-03-15T17:34:00.000Z-Mrund-2009-09-04T20:58:00.000Z"],"displayName":"Martin Rundkvist"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Mrund-2009-09-04T20:58:00.000Z-Salsero-2009-09-04T13:19:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Hejkompis-2010-03-15T17:34:00.000Z-Mrund-2009-09-04T20:58:00.000Z"></span>Flyttat artikeln. Det går utmärkt att flytta tillbaka när vi har källan. <a href="/wiki/Anv%C3%A4ndare:Hejkompis" title="Användare:Hejkompis">hejkompis</a> (<a href="/wiki/Anv%C3%A4ndardiskussion:Hejkompis" title="Användardiskussion:Hejkompis">disk</a>.) <a href="https://sv.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diskussion:Komplex_fr%C3%A5ga#c-Hejkompis-2010-03-15T17:34:00.000Z-Mrund-2009-09-04T20:58:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15 mars 2010 kl. 18.34 (CET)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Hejkompis-2010-03-15T17:34:00.000Z-Mrund-2009-09-04T20:58:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">svara</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2010-03-15T17:34:00.000Z","author":"Hejkompis","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Hejkompis-2010-03-15T17:34:00.000Z-Mrund-2009-09-04T20:58:00.000Z","replies":["c-Janders-2020-10-10T11:22:00.000Z-Hejkompis-2010-03-15T17:34:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Hejkompis-2010-03-15T17:34:00.000Z-Mrund-2009-09-04T20:58:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Janders-2020-10-10T11:22:00.000Z-Hejkompis-2010-03-15T17:34:00.000Z"></span>Rävsax i vedertagen bildlig betydelse betyder en situation, en "fälla", som det är svårt att ta sig ur, därför att hur man än gör så finns det starkare krafter som verkar emot. Omdirigeringen till denna artikel känns inte motiverad. <a href="/wiki/Anv%C3%A4ndare:Janders" title="Användare:Janders">Janders</a> (<a href="/wiki/Anv%C3%A4ndardiskussion:Janders" title="Användardiskussion:Janders">diskussion</a>) <a href="https://sv.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diskussion:Komplex_fr%C3%A5ga#c-Janders-2020-10-10T11:22:00.000Z-Hejkompis-2010-03-15T17:34:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10 oktober 2020 kl. 13.22 (CEST)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Janders-2020-10-10T11:22:00.000Z-Hejkompis-2010-03-15T17:34:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">svara</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2020-10-10T11:22:00.000Z","author":"Janders","type":"comment","level":5,"id":"c-Janders-2020-10-10T11:22:00.000Z-Hejkompis-2010-03-15T17:34:00.000Z","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Janders-2020-10-10T11:22:00.000Z-Hejkompis-2010-03-15T17:34:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Sj\u00f6-2019-05-27T05:15:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Definition-2019-05-27T05:15:00.000Z","replies":["c-Sj\u00f6-2019-05-27T05:15:00.000Z-Definition"],"text":"Definition","linkableTitle":"Definition"}--><h2 id="Definition" data-mw-thread-id="h-Definition-2019-05-27T05:15:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Definition-2019-05-27T05:15:00.000Z"></span>Definition<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Definition-2019-05-27T05:15:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Diskussion:Komplex_fr%C3%A5ga&action=edit&section=3" title="Redigera avsnitts källkod: Definition"><span>redigera wikitext</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Sj\u00f6-2019-05-27T05:15:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Definition-2019-05-27T05:15:00.000Z","replies":["c-Sj\u00f6-2019-05-27T05:15:00.000Z-Definition"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-Sj\u00f6-2019-05-27T05:15:00.000Z-Definition","timestamp":"2019-05-27T05:15:00.000Z"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__1__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__1__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Sj\u00f6-2019-05-27T05:15:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Definition-2019-05-27T05:15:00.000Z","replies":["c-Sj\u00f6-2019-05-27T05:15:00.000Z-Definition"],"text":"Definition","linkableTitle":"Definition"}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Sjö-2019-05-27T05:15:00.000Z-Definition"></span>Artikelns definition utgår nu från antagandet att det finns en avsikt att lura någon. Borde inte definitionen utgå från ordet komplex "som består av många delar som hänger samman på ett svåröverskådligt sätt". Den källa som finns på svenska <a rel="nofollow" class="external autonumber" href="http://sv.tinypic.com/view.php?pic=o5dcf9&s=9#.XOtvvNMzY3g">[1]</a> förutsätter inte någon avsikt. <a href="/wiki/Anv%C3%A4ndare:Sj%C3%B6" title="Användare:Sjö">Sjö</a> (<a href="/wiki/Anv%C3%A4ndardiskussion:Sj%C3%B6" title="Användardiskussion:Sjö">diskussion</a>) <a href="https://sv.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diskussion:Komplex_fr%C3%A5ga#c-Sjö-2019-05-27T05:15:00.000Z-Definition" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">27 maj 2019 kl. 07.15 (CEST)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Sjö-2019-05-27T05:15:00.000Z-Definition"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">svara</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2019-05-27T05:15:00.000Z","author":"Sj\u00f6","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Sj\u00f6-2019-05-27T05:15:00.000Z-Definition","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Sjö-2019-05-27T05:15:00.000Z-Definition"></span> </p> <!-- NewPP limit report Parsed by mw‐web.codfw.main‐74fffdc954‐ddd9c Cached time: 20250225050252 Cache expiry: 864000 Reduced expiry: true Complications: [] DiscussionTools time usage: 0.009 seconds CPU time usage: 0.046 seconds Real time usage: 0.066 seconds Preprocessor visited node count: 183/1000000 Post‐expand include size: 1413/2097152 bytes Template argument size: 509/2097152 bytes Highest expansion depth: 8/100 Expensive parser function count: 0/500 Unstrip recursion depth: 0/20 Unstrip post‐expand size: 1632/5000000 bytes Number of Wikibase entities loaded: 0/400 --> <!-- Transclusion expansion time report (%,ms,calls,template) 100.00% 18.279 1 -total 100.00% 18.279 1 Mall:Sffr_arkiv 82.36% 15.055 1 Mall:Ambox --> <!-- Saved in parser cache with key svwiki:pcache:1053506:|#|:idhash:canonical and timestamp 20250225050252 and revision id 48338982. 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