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class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>العربية</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-an mw-list-item"><a href="https://an.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Tabierna/Atros" title="Wikipedia:Tabierna/Atros – Aragonese" lang="an" hreflang="an" data-title="Wikipedia:Tabierna/Atros" data-language-autonym="Aragonés" data-language-local-name="Aragonese" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>Aragonés</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-as mw-list-item"><a href="https://as.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E0%A7%B1%E0%A6%BF%E0%A6%95%E0%A6%BF%E0%A6%AA%E0%A6%BF%E0%A6%A1%E0%A6%BF%E0%A6%AF%E0%A6%BC%E0%A6%BE:%E0%A7%B0%E0%A6%BE%E0%A6%87%E0%A6%9C%E0%A7%B0_%E0%A6%9A%27%E0%A7%B0%E0%A6%BE_(%E0%A6%AC%E0%A6%BF%E0%A6%AC%E0%A6%BF%E0%A6%A7)" title="ৱিকিপিডিয়া:ৰাইজৰ চ'ৰা (বিবিধ) – Assamese" lang="as" hreflang="as" data-title="ৱিকিপিডিয়া:ৰাইজৰ চ'ৰা (বিবিধ)" data-language-autonym="অসমীয়া" data-language-local-name="Assamese" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>অসমীয়া</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-av mw-list-item"><a href="https://av.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%92%D0%B8%D0%BA%D0%B8%D0%BF%D0%B5%D0%B4%D0%B8%D1%8F:%D0%9C%D0%B0%D0%B6%D0%BB%D0%B8%D1%81" title="Википедия:Мажлис – Avaric" lang="av" hreflang="av" data-title="Википедия:Мажлис" data-language-autonym="Авар" data-language-local-name="Avaric" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>Авар</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-az mw-list-item"><a href="https://az.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vikipediya:K%C9%99nd_meydan%C4%B1" title="Vikipediya:Kənd meydanı – Azerbaijani" lang="az" hreflang="az" data-title="Vikipediya:Kənd meydanı" data-language-autonym="Azərbaycanca" data-language-local-name="Azerbaijani" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>Azərbaycanca</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-azb mw-list-item"><a href="https://azb.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%88%DB%8C%DA%A9%DB%8C%E2%80%8C%D9%BE%D8%AF%DB%8C%D8%A7:%DA%A9%D9%86%D8%AF_%D9%85%D8%A6%DB%8C%D8%AF%D8%A7%D9%86%DB%8C/%D8%AF%D8%A7%D9%86%DB%8C%D8%B4%DB%8C%D9%82" title="ویکی‌پدیا:کند مئیدانی/دانیشیق – South Azerbaijani" lang="azb" hreflang="azb" data-title="ویکی‌پدیا:کند مئیدانی/دانیشیق" data-language-autonym="تۆرکجه" data-language-local-name="South Azerbaijani" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>تۆرکجه</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-ba mw-list-item"><a href="https://ba.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%92%D0%B8%D0%BA%D0%B8%D0%BF%D0%B5%D0%B4%D0%B8%D1%8F:%D2%A0%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%BE%D0%BB%D1%82%D0%B0%D0%B9" title="Википедия:Ҡоролтай – Bashkir" lang="ba" hreflang="ba" data-title="Википедия:Ҡоролтай" data-language-autonym="Башҡортса" data-language-local-name="Bashkir" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>Башҡортса</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-be mw-list-item"><a href="https://be.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%92%D1%96%D0%BA%D1%96%D0%BF%D0%B5%D0%B4%D1%8B%D1%8F:%D0%A4%D0%BE%D1%80%D1%83%D0%BC" title="Вікіпедыя:Форум – Belarusian" lang="be" hreflang="be" data-title="Вікіпедыя:Форум" data-language-autonym="Беларуская" data-language-local-name="Belarusian" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>Беларуская</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-be-x-old mw-list-item"><a href="https://be-tarask.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%92%D1%96%D0%BA%D1%96%D0%BF%D1%8D%D0%B4%D1%8B%D1%8F:%D0%A4%D0%BE%D1%80%D1%83%D0%BC" title="Вікіпэдыя:Форум – Belarusian (Taraškievica orthography)" lang="be-tarask" hreflang="be-tarask" data-title="Вікіпэдыя:Форум" data-language-autonym="Беларуская (тарашкевіца)" data-language-local-name="Belarusian (Taraškievica orthography)" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>Беларуская (тарашкевіца)</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-bxr mw-list-item"><a href="https://bxr.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%92%D0%B8%D0%BA%D0%B8%D0%BF%D0%B5%D1%8D%D0%B4%D0%B8:Community_Portal" title="Википеэди:Community Portal – Russia Buriat" lang="bxr" hreflang="bxr" data-title="Википеэди:Community Portal" data-language-autonym="Буряад" data-language-local-name="Russia Buriat" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>Буряад</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-cv mw-list-item"><a href="https://cv.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%92%D0%B8%D0%BA%D0%B8%D0%BF%D0%B5%D0%B4%D0%B8:%D0%9A%D0%B0%D0%BD%D0%B0%D1%88%D0%BB%D1%83/%D0%9F%C4%95%D1%80%D0%BB%D0%B5" title="Википеди:Канашлу/Пĕрле – Chuvash" lang="cv" hreflang="cv" data-title="Википеди:Канашлу/Пĕрле" data-language-autonym="Чӑвашла" data-language-local-name="Chuvash" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>Чӑвашла</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-cs mw-list-item"><a href="https://cs.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedie:Pod_l%C3%ADpou_(u_krbu)" title="Wikipedie:Pod lípou (u krbu) – Czech" lang="cs" hreflang="cs" data-title="Wikipedie:Pod lípou (u krbu)" data-language-autonym="Čeština" data-language-local-name="Czech" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>Čeština</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-dty mw-list-item"><a href="https://dty.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E0%A4%B5%E0%A4%BF%E0%A4%95%E0%A4%BF%E0%A4%AA%E0%A4%BF%E0%A4%A1%E0%A4%BF%E0%A4%AF%E0%A4%BE:%E0%A4%9A%E0%A5%8C%E0%A4%AA%E0%A4%BE%E0%A4%A4%E0%A5%8B_(%E0%A4%B5%E0%A4%BF%E0%A4%B5%E0%A4%BF%E0%A4%A7)" title="विकिपिडिया:चौपातो (विविध) – Doteli" lang="dty" hreflang="dty" data-title="विकिपिडिया:चौपातो (विविध)" data-language-autonym="डोटेली" data-language-local-name="Doteli" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>डोटेली</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-myv mw-list-item"><a href="https://myv.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%92%D0%B8%D0%BA%D0%B8%D0%BF%D0%B5%D0%B4%D0%B8%D1%8F%D1%81%D1%8C:%D0%9C%D0%B5%D0%BB%D1%8C%D0%BA%D1%83%D0%B6%D0%BE/%D0%92%D0%B5%D0%B9%D1%81%D1%8D%D0%BD%D1%8C" title="Википедиясь:Мелькужо/Вейсэнь – Erzya" lang="myv" hreflang="myv" data-title="Википедиясь:Мелькужо/Вейсэнь" data-language-autonym="Эрзянь" data-language-local-name="Erzya" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>Эрзянь</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-es mw-list-item"><a href="https://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Caf%C3%A9/Archivo/Miscel%C3%A1nea/Actual" title="Wikipedia:Café/Archivo/Miscelánea/Actual – Spanish" lang="es" hreflang="es" data-title="Wikipedia:Café/Archivo/Miscelánea/Actual" data-language-autonym="Español" data-language-local-name="Spanish" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>Español</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-eo mw-list-item"><a href="https://eo.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vikipedio:Diskutejo/Diversejo" title="Vikipedio:Diskutejo/Diversejo – Esperanto" lang="eo" hreflang="eo" data-title="Vikipedio:Diskutejo/Diversejo" data-language-autonym="Esperanto" data-language-local-name="Esperanto" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>Esperanto</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-fa mw-list-item"><a href="https://fa.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%88%DB%8C%DA%A9%DB%8C%E2%80%8C%D9%BE%D8%AF%DB%8C%D8%A7:%D9%82%D9%87%D9%88%D9%87%E2%80%8C%D8%AE%D8%A7%D9%86%D9%87/%DA%AF%D9%88%D9%86%D8%A7%DA%AF%D9%88%D9%86" title="ویکی‌پدیا:قهوه‌خانه/گوناگون – Persian" lang="fa" hreflang="fa" data-title="ویکی‌پدیا:قهوه‌خانه/گوناگون" data-language-autonym="فارسی" data-language-local-name="Persian" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>فارسی</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-gl mw-list-item"><a href="https://gl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:A_Taberna_(xeral)" title="Wikipedia:A Taberna (xeral) – Galician" lang="gl" hreflang="gl" data-title="Wikipedia:A Taberna (xeral)" data-language-autonym="Galego" data-language-local-name="Galician" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>Galego</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-inh mw-list-item"><a href="https://inh.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%92%D0%B8%D0%BA%D0%B8%D0%BF%D0%B5%D0%B4%D0%B8:%D0%A4%D0%BE%D1%80%D1%83%D0%BC" title="Википеди:Форум – Ingush" lang="inh" hreflang="inh" data-title="Википеди:Форум" data-language-autonym="ГӀалгӀай" data-language-local-name="Ingush" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>ГӀалгӀай</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-glk mw-list-item"><a href="https://glk.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:%D9%82%D8%A3%D9%88%D9%87_%D8%AF%DB%8C%DA%A9%D8%A4%D9%86/%D8%A8%D8%A7%D8%AE%DB%8C" title="Wikipedia:قأوه دیکؤن/باخی – Gilaki" lang="glk" hreflang="glk" data-title="Wikipedia:قأوه دیکؤن/باخی" data-language-autonym="گیلکی" data-language-local-name="Gilaki" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>گیلکی</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-gu mw-list-item"><a href="https://gu.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E0%AA%B5%E0%AA%BF%E0%AA%95%E0%AA%BF%E0%AA%AA%E0%AB%80%E0%AA%A1%E0%AA%BF%E0%AA%AF%E0%AA%BE:%E0%AA%9A%E0%AB%8B%E0%AA%A4%E0%AA%B0%E0%AB%8B_(%E0%AA%85%E0%AA%A8%E0%AB%8D%E0%AA%AF)" title="વિકિપીડિયા:ચોતરો (અન્ય) – Gujarati" lang="gu" hreflang="gu" data-title="વિકિપીડિયા:ચોતરો (અન્ય)" data-language-autonym="ગુજરાતી" data-language-local-name="Gujarati" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>ગુજરાતી</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-ko badge-Q70893996 mw-list-item" title=""><a href="https://ko.wikipedia.org/wiki/%EC%9C%84%ED%82%A4%EB%B0%B1%EA%B3%BC:%EC%82%AC%EB%9E%91%EB%B0%A9_(%EC%9D%BC%EB%B0%98)" title="위키백과:사랑방 (일반) – Korean" lang="ko" hreflang="ko" data-title="위키백과:사랑방 (일반)" data-language-autonym="한국어" data-language-local-name="Korean" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>한국어</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-ilo mw-list-item"><a href="https://ilo.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Dap-ayan/Nadumaduma" title="Wikipedia:Dap-ayan/Nadumaduma – Iloko" lang="ilo" hreflang="ilo" data-title="Wikipedia:Dap-ayan/Nadumaduma" data-language-autonym="Ilokano" data-language-local-name="Iloko" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>Ilokano</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-id mw-list-item"><a href="https://id.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Warung_Kopi_(Lain-lain)" title="Wikipedia:Warung Kopi (Lain-lain) – Indonesian" lang="id" hreflang="id" data-title="Wikipedia:Warung Kopi (Lain-lain)" data-language-autonym="Bahasa Indonesia" data-language-local-name="Indonesian" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>Bahasa Indonesia</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-he mw-list-item"><a href="https://he.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D7%95%D7%99%D7%A7%D7%99%D7%A4%D7%93%D7%99%D7%94:%D7%9B%D7%99%D7%9B%D7%A8_%D7%94%D7%A2%D7%99%D7%A8" title="ויקיפדיה:כיכר העיר – Hebrew" lang="he" hreflang="he" data-title="ויקיפדיה:כיכר העיר" data-language-autonym="עברית" data-language-local-name="Hebrew" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>עברית</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-jv mw-list-item"><a href="https://jv.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikip%C3%A9dia:Angkringan_Liyan%C3%A9" title="Wikipédia:Angkringan Liyané – Javanese" lang="jv" hreflang="jv" data-title="Wikipédia:Angkringan Liyané" data-language-autonym="Jawa" data-language-local-name="Javanese" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>Jawa</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-kk mw-list-item"><a href="https://kk.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%A3%D0%B8%D0%BA%D0%B8%D0%BF%D0%B5%D0%B4%D0%B8%D1%8F:%D0%A4%D0%BE%D1%80%D1%83%D0%BC/%D0%91%D0%B0%D1%81%D2%9B%D0%B0%D0%BB%D0%B0%D1%80" title="Уикипедия:Форум/Басқалар – Kazakh" lang="kk" hreflang="kk" data-title="Уикипедия:Форум/Басқалар" data-language-autonym="Қазақша" data-language-local-name="Kazakh" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>Қазақша</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-ku mw-list-item"><a href="https://ku.wikipedia.org/wiki/W%C3%AEk%C3%AEpediya:D%C3%AEwan_(tevl%C3%AEhev)" title="Wîkîpediya:Dîwan (tevlîhev) – Kurdish" lang="ku" hreflang="ku" data-title="Wîkîpediya:Dîwan (tevlîhev)" data-language-autonym="Kurdî" data-language-local-name="Kurdish" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>Kurdî</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-lez mw-list-item"><a href="https://lez.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%92%D0%B8%D0%BA%D0%B8%D0%BF%D0%B5%D0%B4%D0%B8%D1%8F:%D0%A4%D0%BE%D1%80%D1%83%D0%BC/%D0%9A%D1%8C%D0%B8%D0%BB%D0%B8%D0%BD_%D1%84%D0%BE%D1%80%D1%83%D0%BC" title="Википедия:Форум/Кьилин форум – Lezghian" lang="lez" hreflang="lez" data-title="Википедия:Форум/Кьилин форум" data-language-autonym="Лезги" data-language-local-name="Lezghian" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>Лезги</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-hu mw-list-item"><a href="https://hu.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikip%C3%A9dia:Kocsmafal_(egy%C3%A9b)" title="Wikipédia:Kocsmafal (egyéb) – Hungarian" lang="hu" hreflang="hu" data-title="Wikipédia:Kocsmafal (egyéb)" data-language-autonym="Magyar" data-language-local-name="Hungarian" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>Magyar</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-ml mw-list-item"><a href="https://ml.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E0%B4%B5%E0%B4%BF%E0%B4%95%E0%B5%8D%E0%B4%95%E0%B4%BF%E0%B4%AA%E0%B5%80%E0%B4%A1%E0%B4%BF%E0%B4%AF:%E0%B4%AA%E0%B4%9E%E0%B5%8D%E0%B4%9A%E0%B4%BE%E0%B4%AF%E0%B4%A4%E0%B5%8D%E0%B4%A4%E0%B5%8D_(%E0%B4%AA%E0%B4%B2%E0%B4%B5%E0%B4%95)" title="വിക്കിപീഡിയ:പഞ്ചായത്ത് (പലവക) – Malayalam" lang="ml" hreflang="ml" data-title="വിക്കിപീഡിയ:പഞ്ചായത്ത് (പലവക)" data-language-autonym="മലയാളം" data-language-local-name="Malayalam" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>മലയാളം</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-ms mw-list-item"><a href="https://ms.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Kedai_Kopi_(lain-lain)" title="Wikipedia:Kedai Kopi (lain-lain) – Malay" lang="ms" hreflang="ms" data-title="Wikipedia:Kedai Kopi (lain-lain)" data-language-autonym="Bahasa Melayu" data-language-local-name="Malay" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>Bahasa Melayu</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-mn mw-list-item"><a href="https://mn.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%92%D0%B8%D0%BA%D0%B8%D0%BF%D0%B5%D0%B4%D0%B8%D0%B0:%D0%A5%D1%83%D1%80%D0%B0%D0%BB/%D0%95%D1%80%D3%A9%D0%BD%D1%85%D0%B8%D0%B9" title="Википедиа:Хурал/Ерөнхий – Mongolian" lang="mn" hreflang="mn" data-title="Википедиа:Хурал/Ерөнхий" data-language-autonym="Монгол" data-language-local-name="Mongolian" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>Монгол</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-my mw-list-item"><a href="https://my.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E1%80%9D%E1%80%AE%E1%80%80%E1%80%AE%E1%80%95%E1%80%AE%E1%80%B8%E1%80%92%E1%80%AE%E1%80%B8%E1%80%9A%E1%80%AC%E1%80%B8:%E1%80%9C%E1%80%80%E1%80%BA%E1%80%96%E1%80%80%E1%80%BA%E1%80%9B%E1%80%8A%E1%80%BA%E1%80%86%E1%80%AD%E1%80%AF%E1%80%84%E1%80%BA_(%E1%80%A1%E1%80%91%E1%80%BD%E1%80%B1%E1%80%91%E1%80%BD%E1%80%B1)" title="ဝီကီပီးဒီးယား:လက်ဖက်ရည်ဆိုင် (အထွေထွေ) – Burmese" lang="my" hreflang="my" data-title="ဝီကီပီးဒီးယား:လက်ဖက်ရည်ဆိုင် (အထွေထွေ)" data-language-autonym="မြန်မာဘာသာ" data-language-local-name="Burmese" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>မြန်မာဘာသာ</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-ne mw-list-item"><a href="https://ne.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E0%A4%B5%E0%A4%BF%E0%A4%95%E0%A4%BF%E0%A4%AA%E0%A4%BF%E0%A4%A1%E0%A4%BF%E0%A4%AF%E0%A4%BE:%E0%A4%9A%E0%A5%8C%E0%A4%A4%E0%A4%BE%E0%A4%B0%E0%A5%80_(%E0%A4%B5%E0%A4%BF%E0%A4%B5%E0%A4%BF%E0%A4%A7)" title="विकिपिडिया:चौतारी (विविध) – Nepali" lang="ne" hreflang="ne" data-title="विकिपिडिया:चौतारी (विविध)" data-language-autonym="नेपाली" data-language-local-name="Nepali" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>नेपाली</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-no mw-list-item"><a href="https://no.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Torget" title="Wikipedia:Torget – Norwegian Bokmål" lang="nb" hreflang="nb" data-title="Wikipedia:Torget" data-language-autonym="Norsk bokmål" data-language-local-name="Norwegian Bokmål" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>Norsk bokmål</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-blk mw-list-item"><a href="https://blk.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E1%80%9D%E1%80%AE%E1%80%81%E1%80%AE%E1%80%95%E1%80%AE%E1%80%B8%E1%80%92%E1%80%AE%E1%80%B8%E1%80%9A%E1%80%AC%E1%80%B8:Village_pump_(%E1%80%A1%E1%80%85%E1%80%BD%E1%80%AD%E1%80%AF%E1%80%B8%E1%80%A1%E1%80%92%E1%80%9D%E1%80%BA%E1%82%8F)" title="ဝီခီပီးဒီးယား:Village pump (အစွိုးအဒဝ်ႏ) – Pa'O" lang="blk" hreflang="blk" data-title="ဝီခီပီးဒီးယား:Village pump (အစွိုးအဒဝ်ႏ)" data-language-autonym="ပအိုဝ်ႏဘာႏသာႏ" data-language-local-name="Pa'O" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>ပအိုဝ်ႏဘာႏသာႏ</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-ps mw-list-item"><a href="https://ps.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%88%D9%8A%DA%A9%D9%8A%D9%BE%DB%90%DA%89%D9%8A%D8%A7:%D8%A8%D9%86%DA%89%D8%A7%D8%B1%DA%81%D8%A7%DB%8C/%D8%A8%DB%90%D9%84%D8%A7%D8%A8%DB%90%D9%84" title="ويکيپېډيا:بنډارځای/بېلابېل – Pashto" lang="ps" hreflang="ps" data-title="ويکيپېډيا:بنډارځای/بېلابېل" data-language-autonym="پښتو" data-language-local-name="Pashto" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>پښتو</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-pl mw-list-item"><a href="https://pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Kawiarenka/Og%C3%B3lne" title="Wikipedia:Kawiarenka/Ogólne – Polish" lang="pl" hreflang="pl" data-title="Wikipedia:Kawiarenka/Ogólne" data-language-autonym="Polski" data-language-local-name="Polish" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>Polski</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-pt mw-list-item"><a href="https://pt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikip%C3%A9dia:Esplanada/geral" title="Wikipédia:Esplanada/geral – Portuguese" lang="pt" hreflang="pt" data-title="Wikipédia:Esplanada/geral" data-language-autonym="Português" data-language-local-name="Portuguese" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>Português</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-ru mw-list-item"><a href="https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%92%D0%B8%D0%BA%D0%B8%D0%BF%D0%B5%D0%B4%D0%B8%D1%8F:%D0%A4%D0%BE%D1%80%D1%83%D0%BC/%D0%9E%D0%B1%D1%89%D0%B8%D0%B9" title="Википедия:Форум/Общий – Russian" lang="ru" hreflang="ru" data-title="Википедия:Форум/Общий" data-language-autonym="Русский" data-language-local-name="Russian" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>Русский</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-sah mw-list-item"><a href="https://sah.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%91%D0%B8%D0%BA%D0%B8%D0%BF%D0%B8%D1%8D%D0%B4%D1%8C%D0%B8%D0%B9%D1%8D:%D0%9A%D1%8D%D0%BF%D1%81%D1%8D%D1%82%D1%8D%D1%80_%D1%81%D0%B8%D1%80/%D0%A3%D0%BE%D0%BF%D1%81%D0%B0%D0%B9%D1%8B%D0%BD%D0%B0%D0%BD_%D0%BA%D1%8D%D0%BF%D1%81%D1%8D%D1%82%D0%B8%D0%B8" title="Бикипиэдьийэ:Кэпсэтэр сир/Уопсайынан кэпсэтии – Yakut" lang="sah" hreflang="sah" data-title="Бикипиэдьийэ:Кэпсэтэр сир/Уопсайынан кэпсэтии" data-language-autonym="Саха тыла" data-language-local-name="Yakut" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>Саха тыла</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-sa mw-list-item"><a href="https://sa.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E0%A4%B5%E0%A4%BF%E0%A4%95%E0%A4%BF%E0%A4%AA%E0%A5%80%E0%A4%A1%E0%A4%BF%E0%A4%AF%E0%A4%BE:%E0%A4%B8%E0%A4%BE%E0%A4%B9%E0%A4%BE%E0%A4%AF%E0%A5%8D%E0%A4%AF%E0%A4%B8%E0%A4%AD%E0%A4%BE" title="विकिपीडिया:साहाय्यसभा – Sanskrit" lang="sa" hreflang="sa" data-title="विकिपीडिया:साहाय्यसभा" data-language-autonym="संस्कृतम्" data-language-local-name="Sanskrit" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>संस्कृतम्</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-si mw-list-item"><a href="https://si.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E0%B7%80%E0%B7%92%E0%B6%9A%E0%B7%92%E0%B6%B4%E0%B7%93%E0%B6%A9%E0%B7%92%E0%B6%BA%E0%B7%8F:%E0%B6%9A%E0%B7%9D%E0%B6%B4%E0%B7%92_%E0%B6%9A%E0%B6%A9%E0%B7%9A_(miscellaneous)" title="විකිපීඩියා:කෝපි කඩේ (miscellaneous) – Sinhala" lang="si" hreflang="si" data-title="විකිපීඩියා:කෝපි කඩේ (miscellaneous)" data-language-autonym="සිංහල" data-language-local-name="Sinhala" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>සිංහල</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-sd mw-list-item"><a href="https://sd.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%88%DA%AA%D9%8A%D9%BE%D9%8A%DA%8A%D9%8A%D8%A7:%D8%B5%D9%84%D8%A7%D8%AD_%D9%85%D8%B4%D9%88%D8%B1%D9%88/%D9%85%D8%AA%D9%81%D8%B1%D9%82%D8%A7%D8%AA" title="وڪيپيڊيا:صلاح مشورو/متفرقات – Sindhi" lang="sd" hreflang="sd" data-title="وڪيپيڊيا:صلاح مشورو/متفرقات" data-language-autonym="سنڌي" data-language-local-name="Sindhi" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>سنڌي</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-sk mw-list-item"><a href="https://sk.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikip%C3%A9dia:Kaviare%C5%88/R%C3%B4zne" title="Wikipédia:Kaviareň/Rôzne – Slovak" lang="sk" hreflang="sk" data-title="Wikipédia:Kaviareň/Rôzne" data-language-autonym="Slovenčina" data-language-local-name="Slovak" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>Slovenčina</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-cu mw-list-item"><a href="https://cu.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%92%D0%B8%D0%BA%D0%B8%D0%BF%D1%94%D0%B4%D1%97%EA%99%97:%D0%9E%D0%B1%D1%8C%D1%89%D1%94%D0%BD%D0%B8%EA%99%97_%D1%81%D1%8A%D0%B2%D1%A3%D1%82%D1%8A" title="Википєдїꙗ:Обьщєниꙗ съвѣтъ – Church Slavic" lang="cu" hreflang="cu" data-title="Википєдїꙗ:Обьщєниꙗ съвѣтъ" data-language-autonym="Словѣньскъ / ⰔⰎⰑⰂⰡⰐⰠⰔⰍⰟ" data-language-local-name="Church Slavic" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>Словѣньскъ / ⰔⰎⰑⰂⰡⰐⰠⰔⰍⰟ</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-szl mw-list-item"><a href="https://szl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedyjo:Sztamtisz/Uog%C5%AFlne" title="Wikipedyjo:Sztamtisz/Uogůlne – Silesian" lang="szl" hreflang="szl" data-title="Wikipedyjo:Sztamtisz/Uogůlne" data-language-autonym="Ślůnski" data-language-local-name="Silesian" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>Ślůnski</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-ckb mw-list-item"><a href="https://ckb.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%88%DB%8C%DA%A9%DB%8C%D9%BE%DB%8C%D8%AF%DB%8C%D8%A7:%D8%AF%DB%8C%D9%88%DB%95%D8%AE%D8%A7%D9%86_(%D8%AC%DB%86%D8%B1%D8%A7%D9%88%D8%AC%DB%86%D8%B1)" title="ویکیپیدیا:دیوەخان (جۆراوجۆر) – Central Kurdish" lang="ckb" hreflang="ckb" data-title="ویکیپیدیا:دیوەخان (جۆراوجۆر)" data-language-autonym="کوردی" data-language-local-name="Central Kurdish" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>کوردی</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-sr mw-list-item"><a href="https://sr.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%92%D0%B8%D0%BA%D0%B8%D0%BF%D0%B5%D0%B4%D0%B8%D1%98%D0%B0:%D0%A2%D1%80%D0%B3/%D0%A0%D0%B0%D0%B7%D0%BD%D0%BE" title="Википедија:Трг/Разно – Serbian" lang="sr" hreflang="sr" data-title="Википедија:Трг/Разно" data-language-autonym="Српски / srpski" data-language-local-name="Serbian" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>Српски / srpski</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-su mw-list-item"><a href="https://su.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Sawala_(nu_lian)" title="Wikipedia:Sawala (nu lian) – Sundanese" lang="su" hreflang="su" data-title="Wikipedia:Sawala (nu lian)" data-language-autonym="Sunda" data-language-local-name="Sundanese" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>Sunda</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-fi mw-list-item"><a href="https://fi.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Kahvihuone_(sekalaista)" title="Wikipedia:Kahvihuone (sekalaista) – Finnish" lang="fi" hreflang="fi" data-title="Wikipedia:Kahvihuone (sekalaista)" data-language-autonym="Suomi" data-language-local-name="Finnish" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>Suomi</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-tt mw-list-item"><a href="https://tt.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%92%D0%B8%D0%BA%D0%B8%D0%BF%D0%B5%D0%B4%D0%B8%D1%8F:%D0%93%D0%BE%D0%BC%D1%83%D0%BC%D0%B8_%D1%84%D0%BE%D1%80%D1%83%D0%BC" title="Википедия:Гомуми форум – Tatar" lang="tt" hreflang="tt" data-title="Википедия:Гомуми форум" data-language-autonym="Татарча / tatarça" data-language-local-name="Tatar" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>Татарча / tatarça</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-shn mw-list-item"><a href="https://shn.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E1%80%9D%E1%80%AE%E1%82%87%E1%81%B6%E1%80%AE%E1%82%87%E1%81%BD%E1%80%AE%E1%80%B8%E1%80%90%E1%80%AE%E1%80%B8%E1%80%9A%E1%82%83%E1%80%B8:%E1%80%9C%E1%81%A2%E1%81%BC%E1%80%BA%E1%82%89%E1%81%BC%E1%80%99%E1%80%BA%E1%82%89%E1%81%BC%E1%80%B5%E1%80%84%E1%80%BA%E1%82%88_(%E1%81%B5%E1%80%B0%E1%82%88%E1%80%9C%E1%80%BD%E1%80%84%E1%80%BA%E1%82%88%E1%80%9C%E1%80%BD%E1%80%84%E1%80%BA%E1%82%88)" title="ဝီႇၶီႇၽီးတီးယႃး:လၢၼ်ႉၼမ်ႉၼဵင်ႈ (ၵူႈလွင်ႈလွင်ႈ) – Shan" lang="shn" hreflang="shn" data-title="ဝီႇၶီႇၽီးတီးယႃး:လၢၼ်ႉၼမ်ႉၼဵင်ႈ (ၵူႈလွင်ႈလွင်ႈ)" data-language-autonym="ၽႃႇသႃႇတႆး " data-language-local-name="Shan" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>ၽႃႇသႃႇတႆး </span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-te mw-list-item"><a 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class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-WhatamIdoing-20250209171100-Question"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <hr/> </div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Stumbleannnn-20250207060200-Question"></span>Am I allowed to make a account just for reverting vandalism? <a href="/wiki/User:Stumbleannnn" title="User:Stumbleannnn"><b style="background-color:black;border:3px solid gray;padding:3px;color:lime;">Stumblean!</b></a> <sup><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Stumbleannnn" title="User talk:Stumbleannnn"><b>Talk ☏</b></a></sup> (he/they) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Village_pump_(miscellaneous)#c-Stumbleannnn-20250207060200-Question" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">06:02, 7 February 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Stumbleannnn-20250207060200-Question"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Stumbleannnn-20250207060200-Question"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Chipmunkdavis-20250207092000-Stumbleannnn-20250207060200"></span>Do you mean a second account? A <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:LEGITSOCK" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:LEGITSOCK">WP:LEGITSOCK</a> is allowed, but I haven't seen this as a reason before. <a href="/wiki/User:Chipmunkdavis" title="User:Chipmunkdavis">CMD</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Chipmunkdavis" title="User talk:Chipmunkdavis">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Village_pump_(miscellaneous)#c-Chipmunkdavis-20250207092000-Stumbleannnn-20250207060200" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:20, 7 February 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Chipmunkdavis-20250207092000-Stumbleannnn-20250207060200"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Chipmunkdavis-20250207092000-Stumbleannnn-20250207060200"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Stumbleannnn-20250207092400-Chipmunkdavis-20250207092000"></span>Yeah I meant a second account. I've seen vandals submit my sandbox for review on AFC and I don't really want that. <a href="/wiki/User:Stumbleannnn" title="User:Stumbleannnn"><b style="background-color:black;border:3px solid gray;padding:3px;color:lime;">Stumblean!</b></a> <sup><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Stumbleannnn" title="User talk:Stumbleannnn"><b>Talk ☏</b></a></sup> (he/they) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Village_pump_(miscellaneous)#c-Stumbleannnn-20250207092400-Chipmunkdavis-20250207092000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:24, 7 February 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Stumbleannnn-20250207092400-Chipmunkdavis-20250207092000"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Stumbleannnn-20250207092400-Chipmunkdavis-20250207092000"></span></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Stumbleannnn-20250207092400-Chipmunkdavis-20250207092000-1"></span>and also I don't want ppl annoying me about template deletions while I'm reverting vandalism <a href="/wiki/User:Stumbleannnn" title="User:Stumbleannnn"><b style="background-color:black;border:3px solid gray;padding:3px;color:lime;">Stumblean!</b></a> <sup><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Stumbleannnn" title="User talk:Stumbleannnn"><b>Talk ☏</b></a></sup> (he/they) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Village_pump_(miscellaneous)#c-Stumbleannnn-20250207092400-Chipmunkdavis-20250207092000-1" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:24, 7 February 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Stumbleannnn-20250207092400-Chipmunkdavis-20250207092000-1"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Stumbleannnn-20250207092400-Chipmunkdavis-20250207092000-1"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Largoplazo-20250207135200-Stumbleannnn-20250207092400"></span>That's probably an unnecessary inconvenience for yourself. I see that a couple of people have edited your sandbox, including the current nuisance editor, and as you're a newcomer you may get the impression that this is an ongoing threat. But I've been reverting vandalism for over 15 years and have had maybe four or five people attack my user page, in each case easily reverted and then done with, so it hasn't been frequent. For that reason, it may not be worth the trouble of repeatedly logging out and logging back in all the time.</dd> <dd>Besides, you can prevent such abuse altogether by requesting permanent "semi-protection" for your sandbox (and your main user page) to prevent IP users and any account less than four days old and with fewer than 10 edits from being able to edit those pages. If that turns out to be insufficient, you can ask to have the protection level increased to "extended confirmed protection". (According to the logs, you, yourself, acquired extended confirmed access five days ago, so you wouldn't be blocking yourself by doing this.)</dd> <dd>See <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Protection_policy" title="Wikipedia:Protection policy">WP:Protection policy</a> for details. If you're using Wikipedia's <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Twinkle" title="Wikipedia:Twinkle">Twinkle</a> gadget, it's especially easy to request protection by going to those pages and using the RPP (request page protection) option on the Twinkle drop-down menu. <a href="/wiki/User:Largoplazo" title="User:Largoplazo">Largoplazo</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Largoplazo" title="User talk:Largoplazo">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Village_pump_(miscellaneous)#c-Largoplazo-20250207135200-Stumbleannnn-20250207092400" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:52, 7 February 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Largoplazo-20250207135200-Stumbleannnn-20250207092400"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Largoplazo-20250207135200-Stumbleannnn-20250207092400"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-RoySmith-20250207151600-Largoplazo-20250207135200"></span>I agree that this would <b>not</b> fall under <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:LEGITSOCK" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:LEGITSOCK">WP:LEGITSOCK</a>. <a href="/wiki/User:RoySmith" title="User:RoySmith">RoySmith</a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:RoySmith" title="User talk:RoySmith">(talk)</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Village_pump_(miscellaneous)#c-RoySmith-20250207151600-Largoplazo-20250207135200" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:16, 7 February 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-RoySmith-20250207151600-Largoplazo-20250207135200"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-RoySmith-20250207151600-Largoplazo-20250207135200"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Stumbleannnn-20250207193900-RoySmith-20250207151600"></span>So I'm not allowed to make it? And I would get blocked? <a href="/wiki/User:Stumbleannnn" title="User:Stumbleannnn"><b style="background-color:black;border:3px solid gray;padding:3px;color:lime;">Stumblean!</b></a> <sup><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Stumbleannnn" title="User talk:Stumbleannnn"><b>Talk ☏</b></a></sup> (he/they) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Village_pump_(miscellaneous)#c-Stumbleannnn-20250207193900-RoySmith-20250207151600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:39, 7 February 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Stumbleannnn-20250207193900-RoySmith-20250207151600"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Stumbleannnn-20250207193900-RoySmith-20250207151600"></span></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Anomie-20250207220400-RoySmith-20250207151600"></span>I'd think it could count as <style data-mw-deduplicate="TemplateStyles:r1248585704">@media screen{html.skin-theme-clientpref-night .mw-parser-output .inline-quote-talk{color:#00B785}}@media screen and (prefers-color-scheme:dark){html.skin-theme-clientpref-os .mw-parser-output .inline-quote-talk{color:#00B785}}.mw-parser-output .inline-quote-talk{font-family:Georgia,"DejaVu Serif",serif;color:#008560;quotes:none}.mw-parser-output .inline-quote-talk-italic{font-family:inherit;font-style:italic}.mw-parser-output .inline-quote-talk-marks{quotes:"\"""\""}</style><q class="inline-quote-talk">Maintenance: An editor might use an alternative account to carry out maintenance tasks, or to segregate functions so as to maintain a user talk page dedicated to the purpose. The second account should be clearly linked to the main account.</q> <a href="/wiki/User:Anomie" title="User:Anomie">Anomie</a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Anomie" title="User talk:Anomie">⚔</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Village_pump_(miscellaneous)#c-Anomie-20250207220400-RoySmith-20250207151600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:04, 7 February 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Anomie-20250207220400-RoySmith-20250207151600"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Anomie-20250207220400-RoySmith-20250207151600"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Stumbleannnn-20250208011400-Anomie-20250207220400"></span>k. <a href="/wiki/User:Stumbleannnn" title="User:Stumbleannnn"><b style="background-color:black;border:3px solid gray;padding:3px;color:lime;">Stumblean!</b></a> <sup><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Stumbleannnn" title="User talk:Stumbleannnn"><b>Talk ☏</b></a></sup> (he/they) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Village_pump_(miscellaneous)#c-Stumbleannnn-20250208011400-Anomie-20250207220400" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">01:14, 8 February 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Stumbleannnn-20250208011400-Anomie-20250207220400"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Stumbleannnn-20250208011400-Anomie-20250207220400"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-RoySmith-20250208012200-Stumbleannnn-20250208011400"></span>My personal opinion is that creating a second account as you describe is not a good idea. But, if you do go ahead and do so, please read <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:SOCK#NOTIFY" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:SOCK">WP:SOCK#NOTIFY</a> to make sure you provide proper notification. <a href="/wiki/User:RoySmith" title="User:RoySmith">RoySmith</a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:RoySmith" title="User talk:RoySmith">(talk)</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Village_pump_(miscellaneous)#c-RoySmith-20250208012200-Stumbleannnn-20250208011400" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">01:22, 8 February 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-RoySmith-20250208012200-Stumbleannnn-20250208011400"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-RoySmith-20250208012200-Stumbleannnn-20250208011400"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Stumbleannnn-20250208034500-RoySmith-20250208012200"></span>Done <a href="/wiki/User:Stumble_Anti_V%C3%A1%C3%B1d%C3%A5I" title="User:Stumble Anti VáñdåI">Stumble Anti VandaI</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Stumble_Anti_V%C3%A1%C3%B1d%C3%A5I" title="User talk:Stumble Anti VáñdåI">talk</a>) <sup>[<i><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Sock_puppetry#Legitimate_uses" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:Sock puppetry">alternative account</a> of <a href="/wiki/User:Stumbleannnn" title="User:Stumbleannnn">Stumbleannnn</a></i>]</sup> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Village_pump_(miscellaneous)#c-Stumbleannnn-20250208034500-RoySmith-20250208012200" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">03:45, 8 February 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Stumbleannnn-20250208034500-RoySmith-20250208012200"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Stumbleannnn-20250208034500-RoySmith-20250208012200"></span></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Doug_Weller-20250208143000-RoySmith-20250208012200"></span>Blocked by <a href="/wiki/User:The_Anome" title="User:The Anome">User:The Anome</a> " because your username, Stumble Anti VáñdåI, you have deliberately obfuscated letters in the word "Vandal" in a way that makes it hard to recognise, search for, or remember." <a href="/wiki/User:Doug_Weller" title="User:Doug Weller"><span style="color:#070">Doug Weller</span></a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Doug_Weller" title="User talk:Doug Weller">talk</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Village_pump_(miscellaneous)#c-Doug_Weller-20250208143000-RoySmith-20250208012200" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:30, 8 February 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Doug_Weller-20250208143000-RoySmith-20250208012200"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Doug_Weller-20250208143000-RoySmith-20250208012200"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-RoySmith-20250208143700-Doug_Weller-20250208143000"></span>If I may lend some further advice, we're here to write an encyclopedia. Despite our plethora of rules, the only rule that really matters is "Everything you do needs to further the goal of improving the encyclopedia", and every action gets judged through that lens. <a href="/wiki/User:RoySmith" title="User:RoySmith">RoySmith</a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:RoySmith" title="User talk:RoySmith">(talk)</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Village_pump_(miscellaneous)#c-RoySmith-20250208143700-Doug_Weller-20250208143000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:37, 8 February 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-RoySmith-20250208143700-Doug_Weller-20250208143000"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-RoySmith-20250208143700-Doug_Weller-20250208143000"></span> <dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-The_Anome-20250208204300-RoySmith-20250208143700"></span>And if you <i>do</i> still want to follow this course (which I don't recommend), please rename the account (or just create a new one) without the silly diacritics and the use of 'I' for 'l' in the word "Vandal" that makes it hard for anyone to remember the actual username, apparently deliberately, thus making working with it difficult for other editors. Seriously, what's the point of that? I'd just use your own account for anti-vandalism work, and ask for page protection. — <a href="/wiki/User:The_Anome" title="User:The Anome">The Anome</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:The_Anome" title="User talk:The Anome">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Village_pump_(miscellaneous)#c-The_Anome-20250208204300-RoySmith-20250208143700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:43, 8 February 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-The_Anome-20250208204300-RoySmith-20250208143700"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-The_Anome-20250208204300-RoySmith-20250208143700"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Stumbleannnn-20250208224900-The_Anome-20250208204300"></span>It kept blocking the word "vandal" <a href="/wiki/User:Stumbleannnn" title="User:Stumbleannnn"><b style="background-color:black;border:3px solid gray;padding:3px;color:lime;">Stumblean!</b></a> <sup><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Stumbleannnn" title="User talk:Stumbleannnn"><b>Talk ☏</b></a></sup> (he/they) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Village_pump_(miscellaneous)#c-Stumbleannnn-20250208224900-The_Anome-20250208204300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:49, 8 February 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Stumbleannnn-20250208224900-The_Anome-20250208204300"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Stumbleannnn-20250208224900-The_Anome-20250208204300"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-The_Anome-20250208231400-Stumbleannnn-20250208224900"></span>And for very good reasons! — <a href="/wiki/User:The_Anome" title="User:The Anome">The Anome</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:The_Anome" title="User talk:The Anome">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Village_pump_(miscellaneous)#c-The_Anome-20250208231400-Stumbleannnn-20250208224900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:14, 8 February 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-The_Anome-20250208231400-Stumbleannnn-20250208224900"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-The_Anome-20250208231400-Stumbleannnn-20250208224900"></span></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Largoplazo-20250208231600-Stumbleannnn-20250208224900"></span>Ah, it's true that certain words are blacklisted because of expectations that they'd be used mostly for disruptive purposes, like someone trying to call themselves "Bwahaha the Masked Vandal Bwahaha". <a href="/wiki/User:Largoplazo" title="User:Largoplazo">Largoplazo</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Largoplazo" title="User talk:Largoplazo">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Village_pump_(miscellaneous)#c-Largoplazo-20250208231600-Stumbleannnn-20250208224900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:16, 8 February 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Largoplazo-20250208231600-Stumbleannnn-20250208224900"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Largoplazo-20250208231600-Stumbleannnn-20250208224900"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="outdent-template" style="position:relative;left:1px;"><span style="display:block;width:16em;height:0.5em;border-bottom:1px solid #a2a9b1;border-right:1px solid #a2a9b1;"></span><span style="display:block;width:16em;height:0.5em;border-left:1px solid #a2a9b1;"></span></div><a href="/wiki/User:Stumbleannnn" title="User:Stumbleannnn"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Phil_Bridger-20250208213700-Question"></span>Stumbleannnn</a>, several people have told you that this is a bad idea, and offered you other ways to achieve what you want, but you still went ahead. We don't have policies against every bad idea that someone may dream up, but that doesn't make it any less of a bad idea. <a href="/wiki/User:Phil_Bridger" class="mw-redirect" title="User:Phil Bridger">Phil Bridger</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Phil_Bridger" title="User talk:Phil Bridger">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Village_pump_(miscellaneous)#c-Phil_Bridger-20250208213700-Question" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:37, 8 February 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Phil_Bridger-20250208213700-Question"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Phil_Bridger-20250208213700-Question"></span> <div style="padding-left: 1.6em; font-style: italic; border-top: 1px solid #a2a9b1; margin: 0.5em 0; padding-top: 0.5em">The discussion above is closed. <b style="color: var(--color-error, red);">Please do not modify it.</b> Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.</div> </div><div style="clear:both;" class=""></div> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Minor_Planet_Center_blocks_links_from_Wikipedia" data-mw-thread-id="h-Minor_Planet_Center_blocks_links_from_Wikipedia-20250208150500"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Minor_Planet_Center_blocks_links_from_Wikipedia-20250208150500"></span>Minor Planet Center blocks links from Wikipedia<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Minor_Planet_Center_blocks_links_from_Wikipedia-20250208150500"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Village_pump_(miscellaneous)&action=edit&section=2" title="Edit section: Minor Planet Center blocks links from Wikipedia"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Nux-20250208150500-Minor_Planet_Center_blocks_links_from_Wikipedia"></span>Harvard/Smithsonian/NASA founded institution blocks Wikipedia for whatever reason. If someone can help please see here: <a href="/wiki/Template_talk:Minor_Planet_Center#Links_from_Wikipedia_are_blocked" title="Template talk:Minor Planet Center">Template talk:Minor Planet Center#Links from Wikipedia are blocked</a>. <a href="/wiki/User:Nux" title="User:Nux">Nux</a> <small>(<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Nux" title="User talk:Nux">talk</a>)</small> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Village_pump_(miscellaneous)#c-Nux-20250208150500-Minor_Planet_Center_blocks_links_from_Wikipedia" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:05, 8 February 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Nux-20250208150500-Minor_Planet_Center_blocks_links_from_Wikipedia"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Nux-20250208150500-Minor_Planet_Center_blocks_links_from_Wikipedia"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-The_Anome-20250208231700-Nux-20250208150500"></span>Setting Wikipedia's Referrer-Policy header (<a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/HTTP/Headers/Referrer-Policy">https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/HTTP/Headers/Referrer-Policy</a>) so visits from Wikipedia cannot be distinguished from other visits may help with this. Doing this, however, will need (one-liner!) help from WMF Engineering team. You might want to take this to <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Village_pump_(technical)" title="Wikipedia:Village pump (technical)">Wikipedia:Village pump (technical)</a>. — <a href="/wiki/User:The_Anome" title="User:The Anome">The Anome</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:The_Anome" title="User talk:The Anome">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Village_pump_(miscellaneous)#c-The_Anome-20250208231700-Nux-20250208150500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:17, 8 February 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-The_Anome-20250208231700-Nux-20250208150500"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-The_Anome-20250208231700-Nux-20250208150500"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-RoySmith-20250209173600-The_Anome-20250208231700"></span>As you mentioned elsewhere, it looks like MPC is deliberately blocking our traffic to prevent disruption of their system due to the <a href="/wiki/Slashdot_effect" title="Slashdot effect">large amount of traffic we're sending them</a>. It would be impolite at the very least for us to deliberately camouflage our traffic to get around that. Our own <a href="https://foundation.wikimedia.org/wiki/Policy:Terms_of_Use/en" class="extiw" title="foundation:Policy:Terms of Use/en">TOS</a> requires that <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1248585704"><q class="inline-quote-talk">You do not harm our technology infrastructure and you follow the policies for that infrastructure</q>. Your suggestion is basically suggesting that we do exactly that to somebody else. Not cool. If we were to invoke WMF Engineering's efforts on this, we would do better to ask that they implement some sort of HTTP cache on our end to cut down on the traffic we send what I imagine is some poor little PC running in the corner of somebody's lab. <a href="/wiki/User:RoySmith" title="User:RoySmith">RoySmith</a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:RoySmith" title="User talk:RoySmith">(talk)</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Village_pump_(miscellaneous)#c-RoySmith-20250209173600-The_Anome-20250208231700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:36, 9 February 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-RoySmith-20250209173600-The_Anome-20250208231700"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-RoySmith-20250209173600-The_Anome-20250208231700"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Nux-20250209191800-RoySmith-20250209173600"></span><span class="nowrap"><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/18px-Yes_check.svg.png" decoding="async" width="18" height="18" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/27px-Yes_check.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/36px-Yes_check.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="600" data-file-height="600"/></span></span><b> Done</b></span> this is fixed now on the MPC side (as explained on the template talk page). <a href="/wiki/User:Nux" title="User:Nux">Nux</a> <small>(<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Nux" title="User talk:Nux">talk</a>)</small> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Village_pump_(miscellaneous)#c-Nux-20250209191800-RoySmith-20250209173600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:18, 9 February 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Nux-20250209191800-RoySmith-20250209173600"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Nux-20250209191800-RoySmith-20250209173600"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Question_2" data-mw-thread-id="h-Question_2-20250211135300"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Question_2-20250211135300"></span>Question<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Question_2-20250211135300"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Village_pump_(miscellaneous)&action=edit&section=3" title="Edit section: Question"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Sophisticatedevening-20250211135300-Question_2"></span>So while I've been patrolling RC, I've begun noticing individuals changing things like Gulf of Mexico to Gulf of America, and similar stuff to other renames. I know <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:COMMONNAME" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:COMMONNAME">WP:COMMONNAME</a> indicates keeping Gulf of Mexico, but how should I respond when I see these things? (Also I'm sure there is an existing thread about this but I cannot find it for the life of me) Thanks! <span style="font-family: Brush Script MT; text-shadow: 5px 3px 8px;"><a href="/wiki/User:Sophisticatedevening" title="User:Sophisticatedevening"><span style="color: purple">Sophisticatedevening</span></a> <sup><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Sophisticatedevening" title="User talk:Sophisticatedevening"><span style="color: purple">(talk)</span></a></sup></span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Village_pump_(miscellaneous)#c-Sophisticatedevening-20250211135300-Question_2" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:53, 11 February 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Sophisticatedevening-20250211135300-Question_2"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Sophisticatedevening-20250211135300-Question_2"></span> </p> <ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Chipmunkdavis-20250211141400-Sophisticatedevening-20250211135300"></span>If you revert you could cite <a href="/wiki/MOS:GEO" class="mw-redirect" title="MOS:GEO">MOS:GEO</a>, which notes that places should be referred to by their article title (outside of specific historical circumstances). <a href="/wiki/User:Chipmunkdavis" title="User:Chipmunkdavis">CMD</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Chipmunkdavis" title="User talk:Chipmunkdavis">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Village_pump_(miscellaneous)#c-Chipmunkdavis-20250211141400-Sophisticatedevening-20250211135300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:14, 11 February 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Chipmunkdavis-20250211141400-Sophisticatedevening-20250211135300"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Chipmunkdavis-20250211141400-Sophisticatedevening-20250211135300"></span></li> <li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Uncle_G-20250211195800-Sophisticatedevening-20250211135300"></span>Existing thread‽ That is an understatement. See <a href="/wiki/Template:Editnotices/Page/Gulf_of_Mexico" title="Template:Editnotices/Page/Gulf of Mexico">Template:Editnotices/Page/Gulf of Mexico</a>, <a href="/wiki/Talk:Gulf_of_Mexico" title="Talk:Gulf of Mexico">Talk:Gulf of Mexico</a>, <a href="/wiki/Talk:Gulf_of_Mexico/Archive_2" title="Talk:Gulf of Mexico/Archive 2">Talk:Gulf of Mexico/Archive 2</a>, <a href="/wiki/Talk:Gulf_of_Mexico/Archive_1" title="Talk:Gulf of Mexico/Archive 1">Talk:Gulf of Mexico/Archive 1</a>, and <a href="/wiki/Talk:Gulf_of_Mexico/FAQ" title="Talk:Gulf of Mexico/FAQ">Talk:Gulf of Mexico/FAQ</a>. <a href="/wiki/User:Uncle_G" title="User:Uncle G">Uncle G</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Uncle_G" title="User talk:Uncle G">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Village_pump_(miscellaneous)#c-Uncle_G-20250211195800-Sophisticatedevening-20250211135300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:58, 11 February 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Uncle_G-20250211195800-Sophisticatedevening-20250211135300"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Uncle_G-20250211195800-Sophisticatedevening-20250211135300"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Sophisticatedevening-20250211200400-Uncle_G-20250211195800"></span>Oh thank you so much. <span style="font-family: Brush Script MT; text-shadow: 5px 3px 8px;"><a href="/wiki/User:Sophisticatedevening" title="User:Sophisticatedevening"><span style="color: purple">Sophisticatedevening</span></a> <sup><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Sophisticatedevening" title="User talk:Sophisticatedevening"><span style="color: purple">(talk)</span></a></sup></span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Village_pump_(miscellaneous)#c-Sophisticatedevening-20250211200400-Uncle_G-20250211195800" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:04, 11 February 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Sophisticatedevening-20250211200400-Uncle_G-20250211195800"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Sophisticatedevening-20250211200400-Uncle_G-20250211195800"></span></dd></dl></li></ul> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Recent_Changes_feed_improvements_survey" data-mw-thread-id="h-Recent_Changes_feed_improvements_survey-20250212195500"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Recent_Changes_feed_improvements_survey-20250212195500"></span>Recent Changes feed improvements survey<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Recent_Changes_feed_improvements_survey-20250212195500"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Village_pump_(miscellaneous)&action=edit&section=4" title="Edit section: Recent Changes feed improvements survey"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-OTichonova_(WMF)-20250212195500-Recent_Changes_feed_improvements_survey"></span>Hello! The <a class="external text" href="https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Moderator%20Tools">Moderator Tools team</a> is looking to gain insight into the different ways that community members use the Special:Recent Changes log list, which information is the most useful, and receive feedback on early design ideas.<br/> Currently, the team is recruiting contributors to take a quick survey (10-15 min). 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I am not 100 % sure but let's say 97 %. How to handle this? <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/88.91.102.139" title="Special:Contributions/88.91.102.139">88.91.102.139</a> (<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:88.91.102.139&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:88.91.102.139 (page does not exist)">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Village_pump_(miscellaneous)#c-88.91.102.139-20250212212300-How_to_handle_AI_generated_content" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:23, 12 February 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-88.91.102.139-20250212212300-How_to_handle_AI_generated_content"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-88.91.102.139-20250212212300-How_to_handle_AI_generated_content"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Blueboar-20250212213400-88.91.102.139-20250212212300"></span>If the sources are fake, just revert the addition. <a href="/wiki/User:Blueboar" title="User:Blueboar">Blueboar</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Blueboar" title="User talk:Blueboar">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Village_pump_(miscellaneous)#c-Blueboar-20250212213400-88.91.102.139-20250212212300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:34, 12 February 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Blueboar-20250212213400-88.91.102.139-20250212212300"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Blueboar-20250212213400-88.91.102.139-20250212212300"></span> <dl><dd><a href="/wiki/User:Bruce1ee" title="User:Bruce1ee"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-RoySmith-20250212232000-Blueboar-20250212213400"></span>Bruce1ee</a> could you comment here? I can't find this source you added in <a href="/wiki/Special:Diff/1170493106/1271835912" title="Special:Diff/1170493106/1271835912">Special:Diff/1170493106/1271835912</a>. The DOI comes up as invalid, and JSTOR draws a blank on the title. On the other hand, I found <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.degruyter.com/document/doi/10.1515/9783110804744.217/html?lang=en&srsltid=AfmBOoqmXw8GhkXyoZyY_t39GXTX9H7yuv_b3vHrChveFvIEPM2wk1Le">this paper</a> which has the right title and authors, but a different DOI. So what's going on here?</dd> <dd><style data-mw-deduplicate="TemplateStyles:r1238218222">.mw-parser-output cite.citation{font-style:inherit;word-wrap:break-word}.mw-parser-output .citation q{quotes:"\"""\"""'""'"}.mw-parser-output .citation:target{background-color:rgba(0,127,255,0.133)}.mw-parser-output .id-lock-free.id-lock-free a{background:url("//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/65/Lock-green.svg")right 0.1em center/9px no-repeat}.mw-parser-output .id-lock-limited.id-lock-limited a,.mw-parser-output .id-lock-registration.id-lock-registration a{background:url("//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/d6/Lock-gray-alt-2.svg")right 0.1em center/9px no-repeat}.mw-parser-output .id-lock-subscription.id-lock-subscription a{background:url("//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/aa/Lock-red-alt-2.svg")right 0.1em center/9px no-repeat}.mw-parser-output .cs1-ws-icon a{background:url("//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/4c/Wikisource-logo.svg")right 0.1em center/12px no-repeat}body:not(.skin-timeless):not(.skin-minerva) .mw-parser-output .id-lock-free a,body:not(.skin-timeless):not(.skin-minerva) .mw-parser-output .id-lock-limited a,body:not(.skin-timeless):not(.skin-minerva) .mw-parser-output .id-lock-registration a,body:not(.skin-timeless):not(.skin-minerva) .mw-parser-output .id-lock-subscription a,body:not(.skin-timeless):not(.skin-minerva) .mw-parser-output .cs1-ws-icon a{background-size:contain;padding:0 1em 0 0}.mw-parser-output .cs1-code{color:inherit;background:inherit;border:none;padding:inherit}.mw-parser-output .cs1-hidden-error{display:none;color:var(--color-error,#d33)}.mw-parser-output .cs1-visible-error{color:var(--color-error,#d33)}.mw-parser-output .cs1-maint{display:none;color:#085;margin-left:0.3em}.mw-parser-output .cs1-kern-left{padding-left:0.2em}.mw-parser-output .cs1-kern-right{padding-right:0.2em}.mw-parser-output .citation .mw-selflink{font-weight:inherit}@media screen{.mw-parser-output .cs1-format{font-size:95%}html.skin-theme-clientpref-night .mw-parser-output .cs1-maint{color:#18911f}}@media screen and (prefers-color-scheme:dark){html.skin-theme-clientpref-os .mw-parser-output .cs1-maint{color:#18911f}}</style><cite id="CITEREFDugdaleKristensenRobinsonScoble1999" class="citation journal cs1">Dugdale, J. S.; Kristensen, N. P.; Robinson, G. S.; Scoble, M. J. (1999). <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.degruyter.com/document/doi/10.1515/9783110846271.217/html">"The smaller microlepidoptera grade superfamilies"</a>. <i>Lepidoptera, Moths and Butterflies Volume 1: Evolution, Systematics, and Biogeography</i>. Walter de Gruyter: <span class="nowrap">217–</span>232. <a href="/wiki/Doi_(identifier)" class="mw-redirect" title="Doi (identifier)">doi</a>:<a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://doi.org/10.1515%2F9783110846271.217">10.1515/9783110846271.217</a>.</cite><span title="ctx_ver=Z39.88-2004&rft_val_fmt=info%3Aofi%2Ffmt%3Akev%3Amtx%3Ajournal&rft.genre=article&rft.jtitle=Lepidoptera%2C+Moths+and+Butterflies+Volume+1%3A+Evolution%2C+Systematics%2C+and+Biogeography&rft.atitle=The+smaller+microlepidoptera+grade+superfamilies&rft.pages=%3Cspan+class%3D%22nowrap%22%3E217-%3C%2Fspan%3E232&rft.date=1999&rft_id=info%3Adoi%2F10.1515%2F9783110846271.217&rft.aulast=Dugdale&rft.aufirst=J.+S.&rft.au=Kristensen%2C+N.+P.&rft.au=Robinson%2C+G.+S.&rft.au=Scoble%2C+M.+J.&rft_id=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.degruyter.com%2Fdocument%2Fdoi%2F10.1515%2F9783110846271.217%2Fhtml&rfr_id=info%3Asid%2Fen.wikipedia.org%3AWikipedia%3AVillage+pump+%28miscellaneous%29" class="Z3988"></span>. <a href="/wiki/User:RoySmith" title="User:RoySmith">RoySmith</a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:RoySmith" title="User talk:RoySmith">(talk)</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Village_pump_(miscellaneous)#c-RoySmith-20250212232000-Blueboar-20250212213400" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:20, 12 February 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-RoySmith-20250212232000-Blueboar-20250212213400"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-RoySmith-20250212232000-Blueboar-20250212213400"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Bruce1ee-20250213001000-RoySmith-20250212232000"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:RoySmith" title="User:RoySmith">RoySmith</a>: I didn't add that. It was added by <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Bithisarea&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Bithisarea (page does not exist)">Bithisarea</a> <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Schreckensteinia&diff=1271807486&oldid=1170493106">here</a>. —<a href="/wiki/User:Bruce1ee" title="User:Bruce1ee">Bruce1ee</a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Bruce1ee" title="User talk:Bruce1ee"><sup><i>talk</i></sup></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Village_pump_(miscellaneous)#c-Bruce1ee-20250213001000-RoySmith-20250212232000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:10, 13 February 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Bruce1ee-20250213001000-RoySmith-20250212232000"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Bruce1ee-20250213001000-RoySmith-20250212232000"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Translations" data-mw-thread-id="h-Translations-20250213112200"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Translations-20250213112200"></span>Translations<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Translations-20250213112200"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Village_pump_(miscellaneous)&action=edit&section=6" title="Edit section: Translations"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Vanbasten_23-20250213112200-Translations"></span>Hello everyone. I am interested in knowing lists of articles that have been translated from Spanish to English. On Wikipedia in Spanish we use the <a class="external text" href="https://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plantilla:Traducido_ref">translated ref</a> template to comply with the Wikipedia text license and indicate which article the information has been translated from, but I see that this template does not exist here, and I would like to know if there is any way to obtain lists of these articles. Thank you. <a href="/wiki/User:Vanbasten_23" title="User:Vanbasten 23">Vanbasten 23</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Vanbasten_23" title="User talk:Vanbasten 23">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Village_pump_(miscellaneous)#c-Vanbasten_23-20250213112200-Translations" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:22, 13 February 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Vanbasten_23-20250213112200-Translations"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Vanbasten_23-20250213112200-Translations"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Largoplazo-20250213151100-Vanbasten_23-20250213112200"></span>I can't say it's used consistently, as some will simply acknowledge the translation in an edit summary, but the template you're looking for is <a href="/wiki/Template:Translated_page" title="Template:Translated page">Template:Translated page</a>, which is posted on talk pages. The template places the page into one of the subcategories of <a href="/wiki/Category:Translated_pages" title="Category:Translated pages">Category:Translated pages</a>. For example, over 10,000 pages appear in the category <a href="/wiki/Category:Pages_translated_from_Spanish_Wikipedia" title="Category:Pages translated from Spanish Wikipedia">Category:Pages translated from Spanish Wikipedia</a>. <a href="/wiki/User:Largoplazo" title="User:Largoplazo">Largoplazo</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Largoplazo" title="User talk:Largoplazo">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Village_pump_(miscellaneous)#c-Largoplazo-20250213151100-Vanbasten_23-20250213112200" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:11, 13 February 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Largoplazo-20250213151100-Vanbasten_23-20250213112200"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Largoplazo-20250213151100-Vanbasten_23-20250213112200"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Various_images_of_Stockholm_flags,_coats_of_arms,_etc." data-mw-thread-id="h-Various_images_of_Stockholm_flags,_coats_of_arms,_etc.-20250213145200"><span id="Various_images_of_Stockholm_flags.2C_coats_of_arms.2C_etc."></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Various_images_of_Stockholm_flags,_coats_of_arms,_etc.-20250213145200"></span>Various images of Stockholm flags, coats of arms, etc.<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Various_images_of_Stockholm_flags,_coats_of_arms,_etc.-20250213145200"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Village_pump_(miscellaneous)&action=edit&section=7" title="Edit section: Various images of Stockholm flags, coats of arms, etc."><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Woodensuperman-20250213145200-Various_images_of_Stockholm_flags,_coats_of_arms,_etc."></span>Not really sure where to put this, but as far as I can make out, the images that we are calling the coat of arms <b><a href="/wiki/File:Stockholm_vapen_bra.svg" title="File:Stockholm vapen bra.svg">here</a></b> and <b><a href="/wiki/File:Stockholm_l%C3%A4n_vapen_b.svg" title="File:Stockholm län vapen b.svg">here</a></b>, or the flag <b><a href="/wiki/File:Flag_of_Stockholm.svg" title="File:Flag of Stockholm.svg">here</a></b> are in fact not the official images, but user-created. Is there a copyright reason we should not be using the official flags? It seems misleading to present these as if they are official. I suppose this goes all the way back to commons though,<a class="external autonumber" href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Stockholm_vapen_bra.svg">[3]</a><a class="external autonumber" href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Stockholm_l%C3%A4n_vapen_b.svg">[4]</a><a class="external autonumber" href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Flag_of_Stockholm.svg">[5]</a> so maybe that is where it should be addressed, although I am not active there. <b>--<a href="/wiki/User:Woodensuperman" title="User:Woodensuperman"><span style="background:yellow; color:red;;">wooden</span></a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Woodensuperman" title="User talk:Woodensuperman"><span style="background:yellow; color:blue;;">superman</span></a></b> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Village_pump_(miscellaneous)#c-Woodensuperman-20250213145200-Various_images_of_Stockholm_flags,_coats_of_arms,_etc." class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:52, 13 February 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Woodensuperman-20250213145200-Various_images_of_Stockholm_flags,_coats_of_arms,_etc."><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Woodensuperman-20250213145200-Various_images_of_Stockholm_flags,_coats_of_arms,_etc."></span> </p> <dl><dd><a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.heraldry-wiki.com/heraldrywiki/index.php?title=Stockholm"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Woodensuperman-20250213145600-Woodensuperman-20250213145200"></span>This website</a> shows what they should look like. <b>--<a href="/wiki/User:Woodensuperman" title="User:Woodensuperman"><span style="background:yellow; color:red;;">wooden</span></a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Woodensuperman" title="User talk:Woodensuperman"><span style="background:yellow; color:blue;;">superman</span></a></b> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Village_pump_(miscellaneous)#c-Woodensuperman-20250213145600-Woodensuperman-20250213145200" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:56, 13 February 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Woodensuperman-20250213145600-Woodensuperman-20250213145200"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Woodensuperman-20250213145600-Woodensuperman-20250213145200"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Woodensuperman-20250213150100-Woodensuperman-20250213145600"></span>Also <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.crwflags.com/fotw/flags/se-01-80.html">here</a> and <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.crwflags.com/fotw/flags/se-01.html">here</a> <b>--<a href="/wiki/User:Woodensuperman" title="User:Woodensuperman"><span style="background:yellow; color:red;;">wooden</span></a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Woodensuperman" title="User talk:Woodensuperman"><span style="background:yellow; color:blue;;">superman</span></a></b> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Village_pump_(miscellaneous)#c-Woodensuperman-20250213150100-Woodensuperman-20250213145600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:01, 13 February 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Woodensuperman-20250213150100-Woodensuperman-20250213145600"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Woodensuperman-20250213150100-Woodensuperman-20250213145600"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Sjö-20250213185700-Woodensuperman-20250213150100"></span>Your guess is right. It is a copyright issue. The coat of arms on the city’s website is an artist’s interpretation of the <a href="/wiki/Blazon" title="Blazon">blazon</a>. Per Swedish copyright laws that is a copyrighted image. <a href="/wiki/User:Sj%C3%B6" title="User:Sjö">Sjö</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Sj%C3%B6" title="User talk:Sjö">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Village_pump_(miscellaneous)#c-Sjö-20250213185700-Woodensuperman-20250213150100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:57, 13 February 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Sjö-20250213185700-Woodensuperman-20250213150100"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Sjö-20250213185700-Woodensuperman-20250213150100"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Woodensuperman-20250214105600-Sjö-20250213185700"></span>Okay, thanks for the explanation. In which case it seems <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://heraldry-wiki.com/wiki/Stockholm">heraldry-wiki.com</a> must be breaking copyright law. It just seems strange that we are using shonky images on articles such as <a href="/wiki/Coat_of_arms_of_Stockholm" title="Coat of arms of Stockholm">Coat of arms of Stockholm</a> without an explanation that these are merely a graphical representation, rather than an offical rendering. It seems misleading. So much so that amusingly, people are selling trinkets with these images on!<a rel="nofollow" class="external autonumber" href="https://www.fruugo.co.uk/pine-pine-pine-badge-pine-pin-aposs-souvenir-city-flag-country-coat-of-arms-ecusson-stockholm-suede/p-51835303-104329013">[6]</a> <b>--<a href="/wiki/User:Woodensuperman" title="User:Woodensuperman"><span style="background:yellow; color:red;;">wooden</span></a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Woodensuperman" title="User talk:Woodensuperman"><span style="background:yellow; color:blue;;">superman</span></a></b> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Village_pump_(miscellaneous)#c-Woodensuperman-20250214105600-Sjö-20250213185700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:56, 14 February 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Woodensuperman-20250214105600-Sjö-20250213185700"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Woodensuperman-20250214105600-Sjö-20250213185700"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Remsense-20250214112300-Woodensuperman-20250214105600"></span>No it's not weird or misleading, it's just how arms work. It's not "an unofficial representation", it's exactly as accurate a rendering of the arms described by the formula as any. You're bringing in your own deeply anachronistic assumptions about the subject that aren't justified in the slightest. <span style="border-radius:2px;padding:3px;background:#1E816F"><a href="/wiki/User:Remsense" title="User:Remsense"><span style="color:#fff"><b>Remsense</b></span></a><span style="color:#fff"> ‥ </span><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Remsense" title="User talk:Remsense"><span lang="zh" style="color:#fff"><b>论</b></span></a></span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Village_pump_(miscellaneous)#c-Remsense-20250214112300-Woodensuperman-20250214105600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:23, 14 February 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Remsense-20250214112300-Woodensuperman-20250214105600"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Remsense-20250214112300-Woodensuperman-20250214105600"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Fair_to_use_policy_for_update_Movie_posters" data-mw-thread-id="h-Fair_to_use_policy_for_update_Movie_posters-20250215213400"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Fair_to_use_policy_for_update_Movie_posters-20250215213400"></span>Fair to use policy for update Movie posters<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Fair_to_use_policy_for_update_Movie_posters-20250215213400"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Village_pump_(miscellaneous)&action=edit&section=8" title="Edit section: Fair to use policy for update Movie posters"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-GEORGEB1989-20250215213400-Fair_to_use_policy_for_update_Movie_posters"></span>Hello, first of all i wish the best for all the people in the Forum. </p><p>Please let me know if its possible use fair to use policy for update Movie poster </p><p>Regards </p><p>George Barahona <a href="/wiki/User:GEORGEB1989" title="User:GEORGEB1989">GEORGEB1989</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:GEORGEB1989" title="User talk:GEORGEB1989">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Village_pump_(miscellaneous)#c-GEORGEB1989-20250215213400-Fair_to_use_policy_for_update_Movie_posters" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:34, 15 February 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-GEORGEB1989-20250215213400-Fair_to_use_policy_for_update_Movie_posters"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-GEORGEB1989-20250215213400-Fair_to_use_policy_for_update_Movie_posters"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Anatole-berthe-20250217033500-GEORGEB1989-20250215213400"></span>Are you talking about uploading the image of a movie poster on "<a href="/wiki/Wikimedia_Commons" title="Wikimedia Commons">Wikimedia Commons</a>" or "<a href="/wiki/English_Wikipedia" title="English Wikipedia">Wikipedia in English</a>" ? <br/> <br/></dd> <dd>My question can seem useless but the two platforms haven't the same policy.</dd> <dd>To help you , I need an answer. <a href="/wiki/User:Anatole-berthe" title="User:Anatole-berthe">Anatole-berthe</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Anatole-berthe" title="User talk:Anatole-berthe">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Village_pump_(miscellaneous)#c-Anatole-berthe-20250217033500-GEORGEB1989-20250215213400" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">03:35, 17 February 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Anatole-berthe-20250217033500-GEORGEB1989-20250215213400"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Anatole-berthe-20250217033500-GEORGEB1989-20250215213400"></span></dd></dl>    </div><noscript><img src="https://login.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:CentralAutoLogin/start?useformat=desktop&type=1x1&usesul3=0" alt="" width="1" height="1" style="border: none; position: absolute;"></noscript> <div class="printfooter" data-nosnippet="">Retrieved from "<a dir="ltr" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Village_pump_(miscellaneous)&oldid=1276142522">https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Village_pump_(miscellaneous)&oldid=1276142522</a>"</div></div> <div id="catlinks" class="catlinks" data-mw="interface"><div id="mw-normal-catlinks" class="mw-normal-catlinks"><a href="/wiki/Help:Category" title="Help:Category">Category</a>: <ul><li><a href="/wiki/Category:Wikipedia_village_pump" title="Category:Wikipedia village pump">Wikipedia village pump</a></li></ul></div><div id="mw-hidden-catlinks" class="mw-hidden-catlinks mw-hidden-cats-hidden">Hidden categories: <ul><li><a href="/wiki/Category:Non-talk_pages_that_are_automatically_signed" title="Category:Non-talk pages that are automatically signed">Non-talk pages that are automatically signed</a></li><li><a href="/wiki/Category:Pages_automatically_checked_for_incorrect_links" title="Category:Pages automatically checked for incorrect links">Pages automatically checked for incorrect links</a></li></ul></div></div> </div> </main> </div> <div class="mw-footer-container"> <footer id="footer" class="mw-footer" > <ul id="footer-info"> <li id="footer-info-lastmod"> This page was last edited on 17 February 2025, at 03:35<span class="anonymous-show"> (UTC)</span>.</li> <li id="footer-info-copyright">Text is available under the <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Text_of_the_Creative_Commons_Attribution-ShareAlike_4.0_International_License" title="Wikipedia:Text of the Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike 4.0 International License">Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike 4.0 License</a>; additional terms may apply. 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