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data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-RP88-20240401193400-LincolnBot_broke_wmf:Template:Decade_years_navbox"></span>Hello, as a heads up may I point you to <a href="https://foundation.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_talk:Babel#LincolnBot_broke_Template:Decade_years_navbox" class="extiw" title="wmf:Wikimedia talk:Babel">wmf:Wikimedia talk:Babel#LincolnBot_broke_Template:Decade_years_navbox</a>. —<a href="/wiki/User:RP88" title="User:RP88">RP88</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:RP88" title="User talk:RP88">talk</a>) <a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:GVarnum-WMF#c-RP88-20240401193400-LincolnBot_broke_wmf:Template:Decade_years_navbox" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:34, 1 April 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-RP88-20240401193400-LincolnBot_broke_wmf:Template:Decade_years_navbox"><span id="ooui-php-1" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement 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I have gone ahead and fixed the template. --<a href="/wiki/User:GVarnum-WMF" title="User:GVarnum-WMF">Gregory Varnum (Wikimedia Foundation) [he/him]</a> (<a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:GVarnum-WMF" class="extiw" title="m:User talk:GVarnum-WMF">talk</a>) <a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:GVarnum-WMF#c-GVarnum-WMF-20240401194800-RP88-20240401193400" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:48, 1 April 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-GVarnum-WMF-20240401194800-RP88-20240401193400"><span id="ooui-php-2" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reply</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-GVarnum-WMF-20240401194800-RP88-20240401193400"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Minorax-20240901084700","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Translatewiki-20240901084700","replies":["c-Minorax-20240901084700-Translatewiki"],"text":"Translatewiki","linkableTitle":"Translatewiki"}--><h2 id="Translatewiki" data-mw-thread-id="h-Translatewiki-20240901084700"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Translatewiki-20240901084700"></span>Translatewiki<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Translatewiki-20240901084700"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:GVarnum-WMF&action=edit&section=2" title="Edit section: Translatewiki"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-timestampLabel'>Latest comment: <a href="#c-GVarnum-WMF-20240928022100-Minorax-20240901084700">1 month ago</a></span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-commentCountLabel'>2 comments</span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-authorCountLabel'>2 people in discussion</span></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Minorax-20240901084700","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Translatewiki-20240901084700","replies":["c-Minorax-20240901084700-Translatewiki"],"text":"Translatewiki","linkableTitle":"Translatewiki"}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Minorax-20240901084700-Translatewiki"></span>Good day. Kindly assist to change <code>ترجمي ۾ مدد ڪرڻ چاهيو ٿا؟ $1 رهجي ويل نياپن جو ترجمو ڪريو.</code> to <code>[ترجمي ۾ مدد ڪرڻ چاهيو ٿا؟ [$1 رهجي ويل نياپن جو ترجمو ڪريو.</code> on <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://translatewiki.net/w/i.php?title=MediaWiki:Wikimedia-help-translate-prompt/sd&action=edit">Translatewiki</a> --<a href="/wiki/User:Minorax" title="User:Minorax"><span style="font-family: monospace, monospace; color:#69C">Min☠︎rax</span></a><sup>«¦<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Minorax" title="User talk:Minorax"><b>talk</b></a>¦»</sup> <a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:GVarnum-WMF#c-Minorax-20240901084700-Translatewiki" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">08:47, 1 September 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Minorax-20240901084700-Translatewiki"><span id="ooui-php-3" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reply</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Minorax-20240901084700-Translatewiki"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-GVarnum-WMF-20240928022100-Minorax-20240901084700"></span>I have gone ahead and <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://translatewiki.net/w/i.php?title=MediaWiki%3AWikimedia-help-translate-prompt%2Fsd&diff=12650306&oldid=12239610">made this change</a>. However, I should note that anyone can register an account on TranslateWiki.net via the form on the homepage, and make such changes on their own. :) --<a href="/wiki/User:GVarnum-WMF" title="User:GVarnum-WMF">Gregory Varnum (Wikimedia Foundation) [he/him]</a> (<a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:GVarnum-WMF" class="extiw" title="m:User talk:GVarnum-WMF">talk</a>) <a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:GVarnum-WMF#c-GVarnum-WMF-20240928022100-Minorax-20240901084700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">02:21, 28 September 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-GVarnum-WMF-20240928022100-Minorax-20240901084700"><span id="ooui-php-4" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" 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href="/wiki/Text_of_the_Creative_Commons_Attribution-ShareAlike_4.0_International_License" title="Text of the Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike 4.0 International License">Text of the Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike 4.0 International License</a><span data-mw-comment-end="h-Quick_note_on_Text_of_the_Creative_Commons_Attribution-ShareAlike_4.0_Internatio-20241105233500"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:GVarnum-WMF&action=edit&section=3" title="Edit section: Quick note on Text of the Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike 4.0 International License"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-timestampLabel'>Latest comment: <a href="#c-GVarnum-WMF-20241120201300-Awesome_Aasim-20241120200000">4 days ago</a></span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-commentCountLabel'>10 comments</span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-authorCountLabel'>2 people in discussion</span></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Awesome_Aasim-20241105233500","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Quick_note_on_Text_of_the_Creative_Commons_Attribution-ShareAlike_4.0_Internatio-20241105233500","replies":["c-Awesome_Aasim-20241105233500-Quick_note_on_Text_of_the_Creative_Commons_Attribution-ShareAlike_4.0_Internatio"],"text":"Quick note on Text of the Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike 4.0 International License","linkableTitle":"Quick note on Text of the Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike 4.0 International License"}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Awesome_Aasim-20241105233500-Quick_note_on_Text_of_the_Creative_Commons_Attribution-ShareAlike_4.0_Internatio"></span>Thanks for your edits to <a href="/wiki/Text_of_the_Creative_Commons_Attribution-ShareAlike_4.0_International_License" title="Text of the Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike 4.0 International License">Text of the Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike 4.0 International License</a>. </p><p>I wonder if we can maybe bot (as in copy-paste, not machine translate) the translations especially for the legal code at the top. The legal code is at <a href="//creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/4.0/legalcode" class="extiw" title="creativecommons:by-sa/4.0/legalcode">creativecommons:by-sa/4.0/legalcode</a> and it is already translated into dozens of languages by the CC team. Also can we maybe get this linked in the Meta-Wiki site footer? <span style="font-variant: small-caps;"><a href="/wiki/User:Awesome_Aasim" title="User:Awesome Aasim">A</a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Awesome_Aasim" title="User talk:Awesome Aasim">a</a><a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Awesome_Aasim" title="Special:Contributions/Awesome Aasim">s</a><a href="/wiki/Special:EmailUser/Awesome_Aasim" title="Special:EmailUser/Awesome Aasim">i</a><a href="/wiki/Special:Log/Awesome_Aasim" title="Special:Log/Awesome Aasim">m</a></span> <a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:GVarnum-WMF#c-Awesome_Aasim-20241105233500-Quick_note_on_Text_of_the_Creative_Commons_Attribution-ShareAlike_4.0_Internatio" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:35, 5 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Awesome_Aasim-20241105233500-Quick_note_on_Text_of_the_Creative_Commons_Attribution-ShareAlike_4.0_Internatio"><span id="ooui-php-5" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reply</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Awesome_Aasim-20241105233500-Quick_note_on_Text_of_the_Creative_Commons_Attribution-ShareAlike_4.0_Internatio"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-GVarnum-WMF-20241105233900-Awesome_Aasim-20241105233500"></span>My understanding is that we need to link to the official Creative Commons license in the footer. But ultimately that would be up to the <a href="/wiki/Wikimedia_Foundation/Legal" title="Wikimedia Foundation/Legal">Foundation's Legal team</a>. Previously, this was usually done on Wikisource - just curious if there's a reason folks selected Meta-Wiki this time. As far as a bot - I am honestly not sure as the bots I work on are basically exclusively working on the wikis and not pulling in from an outside source. --<a href="/wiki/User:GVarnum-WMF" title="User:GVarnum-WMF">Gregory Varnum (Wikimedia Foundation) [he/him]</a> (<a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:GVarnum-WMF" class="extiw" title="m:User talk:GVarnum-WMF">talk</a>) <a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:GVarnum-WMF#c-GVarnum-WMF-20241105233900-Awesome_Aasim-20241105233500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:39, 5 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-GVarnum-WMF-20241105233900-Awesome_Aasim-20241105233500"><span id="ooui-php-6" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reply</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-GVarnum-WMF-20241105233900-Awesome_Aasim-20241105233500"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Awesome_Aasim-20241119192600-GVarnum-WMF-20241105233900"></span>Interesting. Because the English Wikipedia links to their own copy hosted on-wiki. This would be better as it is an on-wiki page that can be linked from multiple wikis. <span style="font-variant: small-caps;"><a href="/wiki/User:Awesome_Aasim" title="User:Awesome Aasim">A</a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Awesome_Aasim" title="User talk:Awesome Aasim">a</a><a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Awesome_Aasim" title="Special:Contributions/Awesome Aasim">s</a><a href="/wiki/Special:EmailUser/Awesome_Aasim" title="Special:EmailUser/Awesome Aasim">i</a><a href="/wiki/Special:Log/Awesome_Aasim" title="Special:Log/Awesome Aasim">m</a></span> <a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:GVarnum-WMF#c-Awesome_Aasim-20241119192600-GVarnum-WMF-20241105233900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:26, 19 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Awesome_Aasim-20241119192600-GVarnum-WMF-20241105233900"><span id="ooui-php-7" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reply</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Awesome_Aasim-20241119192600-GVarnum-WMF-20241105233900"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-GVarnum-WMF-20241119202800-Awesome_Aasim-20241119192600"></span>Fair point - do you know if anyone has already run this past Legal? If not, I can ping some folks. --<a href="/wiki/User:GVarnum-WMF" title="User:GVarnum-WMF">Gregory Varnum (Wikimedia Foundation) [he/him]</a> (<a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:GVarnum-WMF" class="extiw" title="m:User talk:GVarnum-WMF">talk</a>) <a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:GVarnum-WMF#c-GVarnum-WMF-20241119202800-Awesome_Aasim-20241119192600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:28, 19 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-GVarnum-WMF-20241119202800-Awesome_Aasim-20241119192600"><span id="ooui-php-8" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reply</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-GVarnum-WMF-20241119202800-Awesome_Aasim-20241119192600"></span></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-GVarnum-WMF-20241120050500-Awesome_Aasim-20241119192600"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:Awesome_Aasim" title="User:Awesome Aasim">Awesome Aasim</a>: After speaking with @<a href="/wiki/User:SSpalding_(WMF)" title="User:SSpalding (WMF)">SSpalding (WMF)</a> in Legal about this, I think you have some good points and I am willing to work with you on setting up the page for translation and updating footer links when we have enough language setup. However, I did want to run a sort of addendum to the plan past you. I am good either way - but can see some advantages worth considering to setting this content up on <a href="https://foundation.wikimedia.org/wiki/" class="extiw" title="foundation:">Foundation Governance Wiki</a> vs. Meta-Wiki. Primarily that it allows us to greater ability to reduce risk of vandalism on the English-version by reducing number of editors to <a href="https://foundation.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia:Accounts_policy" class="extiw" title="foundation:Wikimedia:Accounts policy">Foundation staff and functionaries</a> as well as being consistent with other disclaimers and policies linked from footers. The translations and talk pages will still be editable by registered accounts, so this is primarily about the English/"source" version of the text. Given the content is ultimately "Creative Commons" and not "Wikimedia Foundation" or "Wikimedia communities" - there are no "official" <a href="https://foundation.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia:Content_posting_guidelines" class="extiw" title="foundation:Wikimedia:Content posting guidelines">guidelines</a>/precedents to follow - and I could see pros/cons either way - so wanted to run it past you for input before taking things further. Let me know what you think. --<a href="/wiki/User:GVarnum-WMF" title="User:GVarnum-WMF">Gregory Varnum (Wikimedia Foundation) [he/him]</a> (<a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:GVarnum-WMF" class="extiw" title="m:User talk:GVarnum-WMF">talk</a>) <a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:GVarnum-WMF#c-GVarnum-WMF-20241120050500-Awesome_Aasim-20241119192600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">05:05, 20 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-GVarnum-WMF-20241120050500-Awesome_Aasim-20241119192600"><span id="ooui-php-9" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reply</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-GVarnum-WMF-20241120050500-Awesome_Aasim-20241119192600"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Awesome_Aasim-20241120163100-GVarnum-WMF-20241120050500"></span>Even better! Although Wikinews will need to stay as is because Wikinews uses CC BY 2.5 license rather than CC BY-SA 4.0.</dd> <dd>The translations are already on the Creative Commons, we just need a way to fetch them. <span style="font-variant: small-caps;"><a href="/wiki/User:Awesome_Aasim" title="User:Awesome Aasim">A</a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Awesome_Aasim" title="User talk:Awesome Aasim">a</a><a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Awesome_Aasim" title="Special:Contributions/Awesome Aasim">s</a><a href="/wiki/Special:EmailUser/Awesome_Aasim" title="Special:EmailUser/Awesome Aasim">i</a><a href="/wiki/Special:Log/Awesome_Aasim" title="Special:Log/Awesome Aasim">m</a></span> <a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:GVarnum-WMF#c-Awesome_Aasim-20241120163100-GVarnum-WMF-20241120050500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:31, 20 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Awesome_Aasim-20241120163100-GVarnum-WMF-20241120050500"><span id="ooui-php-10" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reply</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Awesome_Aasim-20241120163100-GVarnum-WMF-20241120050500"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-GVarnum-WMF-20241120183000-Awesome_Aasim-20241120163100"></span>Yeah - fetching them without manual copy/pasting - not 100% sure about. But we can at least start with getting it setup for translation on Governance Wiki and go from there. I will work on getting that setup. --<a href="/wiki/User:GVarnum-WMF" title="User:GVarnum-WMF">Gregory Varnum (Wikimedia Foundation) [he/him]</a> (<a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:GVarnum-WMF" class="extiw" title="m:User talk:GVarnum-WMF">talk</a>) <a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:GVarnum-WMF#c-GVarnum-WMF-20241120183000-Awesome_Aasim-20241120163100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:30, 20 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-GVarnum-WMF-20241120183000-Awesome_Aasim-20241120163100"><span id="ooui-php-11" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reply</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-GVarnum-WMF-20241120183000-Awesome_Aasim-20241120163100"></span></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-GVarnum-WMF-20241120192200-Awesome_Aasim-20241120163100"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:Awesome_Aasim" title="User:Awesome Aasim">Awesome Aasim</a>: Okay - I have <a href="https://foundation.wikimedia.org/wiki/Legal:Text_of_the_Creative_Commons_Attribution-ShareAlike_4.0_International_License" class="extiw" title="foundation:Legal:Text of the Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike 4.0 International License">setup the page for translation</a> on Foundation Governance Wiki. As far as importing outside text, probably the best idea is to create a <a href="https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/" class="extiw" title="phab:">Phabricator</a> ticket and see if any engineers or volunteers have ideas. Otherwise, I suspect as often happens, time will result in a number of the key languages being translated. My hunch is that ultimately, copying and pasting will wind up being the fasted given time likely required to make everything automated work JUST right without human review. Factoring in coding time and eventual human review and amount of text, can see argument for copy/paste. The other factor is I am not 100% sure what the actual quality of translations on CC's website is. I assume they are high, but it is entirely possible our translators will feel differently and prefer to do manual translation. Folks on the <a class="external text" href="https://lists.wikimedia.org/postorius/lists/translators-l.lists.wikimedia.org/">translators mailing list</a> may have other ideas/feedback. --<a href="/wiki/User:GVarnum-WMF" title="User:GVarnum-WMF">Gregory Varnum (Wikimedia Foundation) [he/him]</a> (<a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:GVarnum-WMF" class="extiw" title="m:User talk:GVarnum-WMF">talk</a>) <a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:GVarnum-WMF#c-GVarnum-WMF-20241120192200-Awesome_Aasim-20241120163100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:22, 20 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-GVarnum-WMF-20241120192200-Awesome_Aasim-20241120163100"><span id="ooui-php-12" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reply</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-GVarnum-WMF-20241120192200-Awesome_Aasim-20241120163100"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Awesome_Aasim-20241120200000-GVarnum-WMF-20241120192200"></span>Thanks. And I see your point - Creative Commons probably has high quality translators but still the English version takes precedence. Maybe eventually we can get all of the CC BY-SA 4.0 links everywhere (except on Wikinews) to point to the Foundation page when it happens.</dd> <dd>I opened a Phabricator ticket as well: <a href="https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T380412" class="extiw" title="phab:T380412">phab:T380412</a>. Please add appropriate tasks and whatnot. <span style="font-variant: small-caps;"><a href="/wiki/User:Awesome_Aasim" title="User:Awesome Aasim">A</a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Awesome_Aasim" title="User talk:Awesome Aasim">a</a><a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Awesome_Aasim" title="Special:Contributions/Awesome Aasim">s</a><a href="/wiki/Special:EmailUser/Awesome_Aasim" title="Special:EmailUser/Awesome Aasim">i</a><a href="/wiki/Special:Log/Awesome_Aasim" title="Special:Log/Awesome Aasim">m</a></span> <a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:GVarnum-WMF#c-Awesome_Aasim-20241120200000-GVarnum-WMF-20241120192200" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:00, 20 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Awesome_Aasim-20241120200000-GVarnum-WMF-20241120192200"><span id="ooui-php-13" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reply</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Awesome_Aasim-20241120200000-GVarnum-WMF-20241120192200"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-GVarnum-WMF-20241120201300-Awesome_Aasim-20241120200000"></span>I will keep an eye on the page and the task. Feel free to ping me if you think we have reached a point where there are enough languages available such that we can reasonably consider updating the footer links. Assuming Legal is okay with that and there are no clear community concerns, I can help support making the actual code changes necessary to make that happen. --<a href="/wiki/User:GVarnum-WMF" title="User:GVarnum-WMF">Gregory Varnum (Wikimedia Foundation) [he/him]</a> (<a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:GVarnum-WMF" class="extiw" title="m:User talk:GVarnum-WMF">talk</a>) <a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:GVarnum-WMF#c-GVarnum-WMF-20241120201300-Awesome_Aasim-20241120200000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:13, 20 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-GVarnum-WMF-20241120201300-Awesome_Aasim-20241120200000"><span id="ooui-php-14" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reply</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-GVarnum-WMF-20241120201300-Awesome_Aasim-20241120200000"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <!-- NewPP limit report Parsed by mw‐api‐ext.codfw.main‐64b879bb4b‐wxsnj Cached time: 20241120201305 Cache expiry: 864000 Reduced expiry: true Complications: [user‐signature] DiscussionTools time usage: 0.009 seconds CPU time usage: 0.054 seconds Real time usage: 0.076 seconds Preprocessor visited node count: 366/1000000 Post‐expand include size: 5052/2097152 bytes Template argument size: 297/2097152 bytes Highest expansion depth: 15/100 Expensive parser function count: 6/500 Unstrip recursion depth: 0/20 Unstrip post‐expand size: 695/5000000 bytes Lua time usage: 0.017/10.000 seconds Lua memory usage: 657390/52428800 bytes Number of Wikibase entities loaded: 0/400 --> <!-- Transclusion expansion time report (%,ms,calls,template) 100.00% 49.324 1 -total 87.78% 43.296 1 Template:Archive_box_auto 38.14% 18.810 1 Template:Archive_box_auto/layout 12.89% 6.358 1 Template:BCP47 12.21% 6.023 1 Template:Numbered_archive_list 11.81% 5.826 1 User:MiszaBot/config 5.62% 2.770 1 Template:CURRENTCONTENTLANGUAGE 3.93% 1.939 1 Template:Dir --> <!-- Saved in parser cache with key metawiki:pcache:idhash:8538605-0!canonical and timestamp 20241120201305 and revision id 27824918. 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