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hyperactivity disorder</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">5 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Category:People_with_attention_deficit_hyperactivity_disorder-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-EL_removal_summary" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#EL_removal_summary"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">10</span> <span>EL removal summary</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">3 comments</span> <ul id="toc-EL_removal_summary-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Narcissistic_Personality_Disorder_definition_updates" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Narcissistic_Personality_Disorder_definition_updates"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">11</span> <span>Narcissistic Personality Disorder definition updates</span> </div> </a> <span 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id="toc-Museum-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Judy_Blume" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Judy_Blume"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">19</span> <span>Judy Blume</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">2 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Judy_Blume-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-GAR" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#GAR"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">20</span> <span>GAR</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">4 comments</span> <ul id="toc-GAR-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Bruce_Grubb" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Bruce_Grubb"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">21</span> <span>Bruce Grubb</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">6 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Bruce_Grubb-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Appreciated" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Appreciated"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">22</span> <span>Appreciated</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Appreciated-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Just_in_case_i_forget_to_get_on_Wikipedia_my_Youtube_is_Sean's_Apples" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Just_in_case_i_forget_to_get_on_Wikipedia_my_Youtube_is_Sean's_Apples"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">23</span> <span>Just in case i forget to get on Wikipedia my Youtube is Sean's Apples</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Just_in_case_i_forget_to_get_on_Wikipedia_my_Youtube_is_Sean's_Apples-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-B._Alan_Wallace" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#B._Alan_Wallace"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">24</span> <span>B. Alan Wallace</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-B._Alan_Wallace-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-prenatal_psychology" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#prenatal_psychology"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">25</span> <span>prenatal psychology</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">2 comments</span> <ul id="toc-prenatal_psychology-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Not_sure_what_is_with_this?" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Not_sure_what_is_with_this?"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">26</span> <span>Not sure what is with this?</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">3 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Not_sure_what_is_with_this?-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Bipolar" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Bipolar"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">27</span> <span>Bipolar</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">2 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Bipolar-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-response_posted_to_Reliable_source:Age_of_Consent_template" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#response_posted_to_Reliable_source:Age_of_Consent_template"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">28</span> <span>response posted to Reliable source:Age of Consent template</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">2 comments</span> <ul id="toc-response_posted_to_Reliable_source:Age_of_Consent_template-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Thanks!" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Thanks!"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">29</span> <span>Thanks!</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Thanks!-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Sorry" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Sorry"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">30</span> <span>Sorry</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">2 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Sorry-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Narconon_-_errors_in_referencing" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Narconon_-_errors_in_referencing"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">31</span> <span>Narconon - errors in referencing</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">2 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Narconon_-_errors_in_referencing-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Stars_and_Barns" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Stars_and_Barns"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">32</span> <span>Stars and Barns</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Stars_and_Barns-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-GAR:_Joachim_Helbig" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#GAR:_Joachim_Helbig"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">33</span> <span>GAR: Joachim Helbig</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">3 comments</span> <ul id="toc-GAR:_Joachim_Helbig-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Talkback" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Talkback"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">34</span> <span>Talkback</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Talkback-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-ArbCom_Elections_2016:_Voting_now_open!" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#ArbCom_Elections_2016:_Voting_now_open!"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">35</span> <span>ArbCom Elections 2016: Voting now open!</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-ArbCom_Elections_2016:_Voting_now_open!-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-sock_at_Medical_social_work" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#sock_at_Medical_social_work"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">36</span> <span>sock at Medical social work</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">5 comments</span> <ul id="toc-sock_at_Medical_social_work-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Antisemitic_canard_/_Accusations_of_controlling_the_world_financial_system" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Antisemitic_canard_/_Accusations_of_controlling_the_world_financial_system"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">37</span> <span>Antisemitic canard / Accusations of controlling the world financial system</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">2 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Antisemitic_canard_/_Accusations_of_controlling_the_world_financial_system-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Jargon" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Jargon"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">38</span> <span>Jargon</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Jargon-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-DYK_for_Emotional_lability" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#DYK_for_Emotional_lability"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">39</span> <span>DYK for Emotional lability</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-DYK_for_Emotional_lability-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Proper_attribution_of_sources_at_Common_Era" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Proper_attribution_of_sources_at_Common_Era"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">40</span> <span>Proper attribution of sources at Common Era</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">2 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Proper_attribution_of_sources_at_Common_Era-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Redirects" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Redirects"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">41</span> <span>Redirects</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">7 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Redirects-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Thank_you_for_being_one_of_Wikipedia's_top_medical_contributors!" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Thank_you_for_being_one_of_Wikipedia's_top_medical_contributors!"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">42</span> <span>Thank you for being one of Wikipedia's top medical contributors!</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Thank_you_for_being_one_of_Wikipedia's_top_medical_contributors!-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Notice_of_No_Original_Research_Noticeboard_discussion" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Notice_of_No_Original_Research_Noticeboard_discussion"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">43</span> <span>Notice of No Original Research Noticeboard discussion</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Notice_of_No_Original_Research_Noticeboard_discussion-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-ArbCom_2017_election_voter_message" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#ArbCom_2017_election_voter_message"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">44</span> <span>ArbCom 2017 election voter message</span> </div> </a> <span 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Add the article for other languages" > <label id="p-lang-btn-label" for="p-lang-btn-checkbox" class="vector-dropdown-label cdx-button cdx-button--fake-button cdx-button--fake-button--enabled cdx-button--weight-quiet cdx-button--icon-only mw-portlet-lang-heading-empty" aria-hidden="true" ><span class="vector-icon mw-ui-icon-language mw-ui-icon-wikimedia-language"></span> <span class="vector-dropdown-label-text">Add languages</span> </label> <div class="vector-dropdown-content"> <div class="mw-portlet-empty-language-selector-body"> Page contents not supported in other languages. </div> </div> </div> </header> <div class="vector-page-toolbar"> <div class="vector-page-toolbar-container"> <div id="left-navigation"> <nav aria-label="Namespaces"> <div id="p-associated-pages" class="vector-menu vector-menu-tabs mw-portlet mw-portlet-associated-pages" > <div class="vector-menu-content"> <ul class="vector-menu-content-list"> <li id="ca-nstab-user" class="vector-tab-noicon mw-list-item"><a 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class="vector-menu mw-portlet mw-portlet-variants emptyPortlet" > <div class="vector-menu-content"> <ul class="vector-menu-content-list"> </ul> </div> </div> </div> </div> </nav> </div> <div id="right-navigation" class="vector-collapsible"> <nav aria-label="Views"> <div id="p-views" class="vector-menu vector-menu-tabs mw-portlet mw-portlet-views" > <div class="vector-menu-content"> <ul class="vector-menu-content-list"> <li id="ca-view" class="selected vector-tab-noicon mw-list-item"><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Permstrump"><span>Read</span></a></li><li id="ca-edit" class="istalk vector-tab-noicon mw-list-item"><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Permstrump&action=edit" title="Edit this page [e]" accesskey="e"><span>Edit</span></a></li><li id="ca-addsection" class="vector-tab-noicon mw-list-item"><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Permstrump&action=edit&section=new" title="Start a new section [+]" accesskey="+"><span>Add topic</span></a></li><li id="ca-history" class="vector-tab-noicon mw-list-item"><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Permstrump&action=history" title="Past revisions of this page [h]" accesskey="h"><span>View history</span></a></li> </ul> </div> </div> </nav> <nav class="vector-page-tools-landmark" aria-label="Page tools"> <div id="vector-page-tools-dropdown" class="vector-dropdown vector-page-tools-dropdown" > <input type="checkbox" id="vector-page-tools-dropdown-checkbox" role="button" aria-haspopup="true" data-event-name="ui.dropdown-vector-page-tools-dropdown" class="vector-dropdown-checkbox " aria-label="Tools" > <label id="vector-page-tools-dropdown-label" for="vector-page-tools-dropdown-checkbox" class="vector-dropdown-label cdx-button cdx-button--fake-button cdx-button--fake-button--enabled cdx-button--weight-quiet" aria-hidden="true" ><span class="vector-dropdown-label-text">Tools</span> </label> <div class="vector-dropdown-content"> <div id="vector-page-tools-unpinned-container" class="vector-unpinned-container"> <div id="vector-page-tools" class="vector-page-tools vector-pinnable-element"> <div class="vector-pinnable-header vector-page-tools-pinnable-header vector-pinnable-header-unpinned" data-feature-name="page-tools-pinned" data-pinnable-element-id="vector-page-tools" data-pinned-container-id="vector-page-tools-pinned-container" data-unpinned-container-id="vector-page-tools-unpinned-container" > <div class="vector-pinnable-header-label">Tools</div> <button class="vector-pinnable-header-toggle-button vector-pinnable-header-pin-button" data-event-name="pinnable-header.vector-page-tools.pin">move to sidebar</button> <button class="vector-pinnable-header-toggle-button vector-pinnable-header-unpin-button" data-event-name="pinnable-header.vector-page-tools.unpin">hide</button> </div> <div id="p-cactions" class="vector-menu mw-portlet mw-portlet-cactions emptyPortlet vector-has-collapsible-items" title="More options" > <div class="vector-menu-heading"> Actions </div> <div class="vector-menu-content"> <ul class="vector-menu-content-list"> <li id="ca-more-view" class="selected vector-more-collapsible-item mw-list-item"><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Permstrump"><span>Read</span></a></li><li id="ca-more-edit" class="istalk vector-more-collapsible-item mw-list-item"><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Permstrump&action=edit" title="Edit this page [e]" accesskey="e"><span>Edit</span></a></li><li id="ca-more-addsection" class="vector-more-collapsible-item mw-list-item"><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Permstrump&action=edit&section=new"><span>Add topic</span></a></li><li id="ca-more-history" class="vector-more-collapsible-item mw-list-item"><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Permstrump&action=history"><span>View history</span></a></li> </ul> </div> </div> <div id="p-tb" class="vector-menu mw-portlet mw-portlet-tb" > <div class="vector-menu-heading"> General </div> <div class="vector-menu-content"> <ul class="vector-menu-content-list"> <li id="t-whatlinkshere" class="mw-list-item"><a href="/wiki/Special:WhatLinksHere/User_talk:Permstrump" title="List of all English Wikipedia pages containing links to this page [j]" accesskey="j"><span>What links here</span></a></li><li id="t-recentchangeslinked" class="mw-list-item"><a href="/wiki/Special:RecentChangesLinked/User_talk:Permstrump" rel="nofollow" title="Recent changes in pages linked from this page [k]" accesskey="k"><span>Related changes</span></a></li><li id="t-contributions" class="mw-list-item"><a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Permstrump" title="A list of contributions by this user"><span>User contributions</span></a></li><li id="t-log" class="mw-list-item"><a href="/wiki/Special:Log/Permstrump" title="A list of logged actions by this user"><span>User logs</span></a></li><li id="t-userrights" class="mw-list-item"><a href="/wiki/Special:UserRights/Permstrump"><span>View user groups</span></a></li><li id="t-upload" class="mw-list-item"><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:File_Upload_Wizard" title="Upload files [u]" accesskey="u"><span>Upload file</span></a></li><li id="t-specialpages" class="mw-list-item"><a href="/wiki/Special:SpecialPages" title="A list of all special pages [q]" accesskey="q"><span>Special pages</span></a></li><li id="t-permalink" class="mw-list-item"><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Permstrump&oldid=1244474561" title="Permanent link to this revision of this page"><span>Permanent link</span></a></li><li id="t-info" class="mw-list-item"><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Permstrump&action=info" title="More information about this page"><span>Page information</span></a></li><li id="t-urlshortener" class="mw-list-item"><a href="/w/index.php?title=Special:UrlShortener&url=https%3A%2F%2Fen.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2FUser_talk%3APermstrump"><span>Get shortened URL</span></a></li><li id="t-urlshortener-qrcode" class="mw-list-item"><a href="/w/index.php?title=Special:QrCode&url=https%3A%2F%2Fen.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2FUser_talk%3APermstrump"><span>Download QR code</span></a></li> </ul> </div> </div> <div id="p-coll-print_export" class="vector-menu mw-portlet mw-portlet-coll-print_export" > <div class="vector-menu-heading"> Print/export </div> <div class="vector-menu-content"> <ul class="vector-menu-content-list"> <li id="coll-download-as-rl" class="mw-list-item"><a href="/w/index.php?title=Special:DownloadAsPdf&page=User_talk%3APermstrump&action=show-download-screen" title="Download this page as a PDF file"><span>Download as PDF</span></a></li><li id="t-print" class="mw-list-item"><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Permstrump&printable=yes" title="Printable version of this page [p]" accesskey="p"><span>Printable version</span></a></li> </ul> </div> </div> <div id="p-wikibase-otherprojects" class="vector-menu mw-portlet mw-portlet-wikibase-otherprojects emptyPortlet" > <div class="vector-menu-heading"> In other projects </div> <div class="vector-menu-content"> <ul class="vector-menu-content-list"> </ul> </div> </div> </div> </div> </div> </div> </nav> </div> </div> </div> <div class="vector-column-end"> <div class="vector-sticky-pinned-container"> <nav class="vector-page-tools-landmark" aria-label="Page tools"> <div id="vector-page-tools-pinned-container" class="vector-pinned-container"> </div> </nav> <nav class="vector-appearance-landmark" aria-label="Appearance"> <div id="vector-appearance-pinned-container" class="vector-pinned-container"> <div id="vector-appearance" class="vector-appearance vector-pinnable-element"> <div class="vector-pinnable-header vector-appearance-pinnable-header vector-pinnable-header-pinned" data-feature-name="appearance-pinned" data-pinnable-element-id="vector-appearance" data-pinned-container-id="vector-appearance-pinned-container" data-unpinned-container-id="vector-appearance-unpinned-container" > <div class="vector-pinnable-header-label">Appearance</div> <button class="vector-pinnable-header-toggle-button vector-pinnable-header-pin-button" data-event-name="pinnable-header.vector-appearance.pin">move to sidebar</button> <button class="vector-pinnable-header-toggle-button vector-pinnable-header-unpin-button" data-event-name="pinnable-header.vector-appearance.unpin">hide</button> </div> </div> </div> </nav> </div> </div> <div id="bodyContent" class="vector-body" aria-labelledby="firstHeading" data-mw-ve-target-container> <div class="vector-body-before-content"> <div class="mw-indicators"> </div> <div id="siteSub" class="noprint">From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia</div> </div> <div id="contentSub"><div id="mw-content-subtitle"></div></div> <div id="mw-content-text" class="mw-body-content"><div class="mw-content-ltr mw-parser-output" lang="en" dir="ltr"><meta property="mw:PageProp/toc"/> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Welcome!" data-mw-thread-id="h-Welcome!-2015-12-07T08:18:00.000Z"><span id="Welcome.21"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Welcome!-2015-12-07T08:18:00.000Z"></span>Welcome!<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Welcome!-2015-12-07T08:18:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <table style="background-color:#F5FFFA; padding:0;"> <tbody><tr> <td class="MainPageBG" style="border:1px solid lightgrey; background-color:lightgrey; vertical-align:top; color:#000000; font-size:85%"> <table style="width: 100%; padding: 0px; vertical-align:top; background-color:lavender; padding:0;"> <tbody><tr> <th><div style="margin:0; background-color:white; font-family:sans-serif; font-size:120%; font-weight:normal; border:1px solid lightgrey; text-align:left; padding-left:0.4em; padding-top:0.2em; padding-bottom:0.2em;"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Gronk_Oz-2015-12-07T08:18:00.000Z-Welcome!"></span>Hello, Permstrump! <b><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Introduction" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:Introduction">Welcome</a> to Wikipedia!</b> Thank you for <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Permstrump" title="Special:Contributions/Permstrump">your contributions</a>. You may benefit from following some of the links below, which will help you get the most out of Wikipedia. If you have any questions you can ask me on my talk page, or place <b><code>{{helpme}}</code></b> on your <a href="/wiki/Help:Using_talk_pages" class="mw-redirect" title="Help:Using talk pages">talk page</a> and ask your question there. Please remember to <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Signatures" title="Wikipedia:Signatures">sign your name</a> on talk pages by clicking <span class="mw-default-size" typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:How_to_sign_your_posts" title="Wikipedia:How to sign your posts"><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/7/79/Insert-signature.png" decoding="async" width="22" height="22" class="mw-file-element" data-file-width="22" data-file-height="22"/></a></span> or by typing four tildes "~~~~"; this will automatically produce your name and the date. If you are already excited about Wikipedia, you might want to consider being "<a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Adopt-a-user" title="Wikipedia:Adopt-a-user">adopted</a>" by a more experienced editor or joining a <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject" title="Wikipedia:WikiProject">WikiProject</a> to collaborate with others in creating and improving articles of your interest. Click <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Council/Directory" title="Wikipedia:WikiProject Council/Directory">here</a> for a directory of all the WikiProjects. Finally, please do your best to always fill in the <a href="/wiki/Help:Edit_summary" title="Help:Edit summary">edit summary</a> field when making edits to pages. Happy editing! <a href="/wiki/User:Gronk_Oz" title="User:Gronk Oz">Gronk Oz</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Gronk_Oz" title="User talk:Gronk Oz">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Permstrump#c-Gronk_Oz-2015-12-07T08:18:00.000Z-Welcome!" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">08:18, 7 December 2015 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Gronk_Oz-2015-12-07T08:18:00.000Z-Welcome!"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Gronk_Oz-2015-12-07T08:18:00.000Z-Welcome!"></span> </div></th></tr></tbody></table> <table width="100%" style="background-color:white;"> <tbody><tr> <td class="MainPageBG" style="width: 55%; border:1px solid white; background-color:lightgrey; vertical-align:top"> <table style="width: 100%; padding: 0px; vertical-align:top; background-color:Lavender"> <tbody><tr> <th><div style="margin: 0; background-color:white; font-family: sans-serif; font-size:120%; font-weight:bold; border:1px solid lightgrey; text-align:left; color:grey; padding-left:0.4em; padding-top: 0.2em; padding-bottom: 0.2em;"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Gronk_Oz-2015-12-07T08:20:00.000Z-Welcome!"></span>Getting Started</div> </th></tr> <tr> <td style="color:#000"> <ul><li><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Contributing_to_Wikipedia" title="Wikipedia:Contributing to Wikipedia">Contributing to Wikipedia</a></li> <li><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Five_pillars" title="Wikipedia:Five pillars">The five pillars of Wikipedia</a> • <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Tutorial" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:Tutorial">Tutorial</a> • <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Your_first_article" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:Your first article">Your first article</a></li> <li>How to: <a href="/wiki/Help:Editing" title="Help:Editing">edit a page</a> • <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Uploading_images" title="Wikipedia:Uploading images">upload an image</a></li></ul> </td></tr> <tr> <th><div style="margin: 0; background:white; font-family: sans-serif; font-size:120%; font-weight:bold; border:1px solid lightgrey; text-align:left; color:grey; padding-left:0.4em; padding-top: 0.2em; padding-bottom: 0.2em;">Getting Help</div> </th></tr> <tr> <td style="color:#000"> <ul><li><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:FAQ" title="Wikipedia:FAQ">Frequently Asked Questions</a></li> <li><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:New_contributors%27_help_page" title="Wikipedia:New contributors' help page">New contributors' help page</a></li> <li>Where to: <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Questions" title="Wikipedia:Questions">ask questions</a> • <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Requests" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:Requests">make requests</a></li> <li><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Requests_for_administrator_attention" title="Wikipedia:Requests for administrator attention">Request administrator attention</a></li></ul> </td></tr> <tr> <th><div style="margin: 0; background:white; font-family: sans-serif; font-size:120%; font-weight:bold; border:1px solid lightgrey; text-align:left; color:grey; padding-left:0.4em; padding-top: 0.2em; padding-bottom: 0.2em;">Policies and Guidelines</div> </th></tr> <tr> <td style="color:#000"> <ul><li><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Neutral_point_of_view" title="Wikipedia:Neutral point of view">Neutral point of view</a> • <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Identifying_reliable_sources" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:Identifying reliable sources">Reliable sources</a></li> <li><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Verifiability" title="Wikipedia:Verifiability">Verifiability</a> • <a href="/wiki/Help:Introduction_to_referencing/1" class="mw-redirect" title="Help:Introduction to referencing/1">Citing sources</a> • <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:No_original_research" title="Wikipedia:No original research">No original research</a></li> <li><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:What_Wikipedia_is_not" title="Wikipedia:What Wikipedia is not">What Wikipedia is not</a> • <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Biographies_of_living_persons" title="Wikipedia:Biographies of living persons">Biographies of living persons</a></li></ul> <hr/> <ul><li><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Simplified_Manual_of_Style" title="Wikipedia:Simplified Manual of Style">Simplified Manual of Style</a> • <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Edit_warring#The_three-revert_rule" title="Wikipedia:Edit warring">Three-revert rule</a></li> <li><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Copyrights" title="Wikipedia:Copyrights">Copyrights</a> • <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Non-free_content" title="Wikipedia:Non-free content">Non-free content</a> • <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Image_use_policy" title="Wikipedia:Image use policy">Image use policy</a></li> <li><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:External_links" title="Wikipedia:External links">External links</a> • <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Spam" title="Wikipedia:Spam">Spam</a> • <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Vandalism" title="Wikipedia:Vandalism">Vandalism</a> • <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Sock_puppetry" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:Sock puppetry">Sock puppetry</a></li> <li><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Deletion_policy" title="Wikipedia:Deletion policy">Deletion policy</a> • <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Conflict_of_interest" title="Wikipedia:Conflict of interest">Conflict of interest</a> • <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Notability" title="Wikipedia:Notability">Notability</a></li></ul> </td></tr> </tbody></table> </td> <td class="MainPageBG" style="width: 55%; border:1px solid lightgrey; background-color:Seashell; vertical-align:top"> <table style="width: 100%; padding: 0px; vertical-align:top; background-color:Seashell"> <tbody><tr> <th><div style="margin: 0; background-color:white; font-family: sans-serif; font-size:120%; font-weight:bold; border:1px solid lightgrey; text-align:left; color:grey; padding-left:0.4em; padding-top: 0.2em; padding-bottom: 0.2em;">The Community</div> </th></tr> <tr> <td style="color:#000"> <ul><li><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Community_portal" title="Wikipedia:Community portal">Community Portal</a> • <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Adopt-a-user" title="Wikipedia:Adopt-a-user">Adopt-a-user program</a></li> <li><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Assume_good_faith" title="Wikipedia:Assume good faith">Assume good faith</a> • <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Civility" title="Wikipedia:Civility">Civility</a> • <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Etiquette" title="Wikipedia:Etiquette">Etiquette</a></li> <li><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:No_personal_attacks" title="Wikipedia:No personal attacks">No personal attacks</a> • <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Dispute_resolution" title="Wikipedia:Dispute resolution">Resolving disputes</a></li> <li><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Consensus" title="Wikipedia:Consensus">Build consensus</a> • <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Village_pump" title="Wikipedia:Village pump">Village pump</a></li> <li><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:IRC" title="Wikipedia:IRC">IRC channels</a> • <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Mailing_lists" title="Wikipedia:Mailing lists">Mailing lists</a></li> <li><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost" title="Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost">Discover what's going on in the Wikimedia community (<i>The Signpost</i>)</a></li></ul> </td></tr> <tr> <th><div style="margin: 0; background-color:white; font-family: sans-serif; font-size:120%; font-weight:bold; border:1px solid lightgrey; text-align:left; color:grey; padding-left:0.4em; padding-top: 0.2em; padding-bottom: 0.2em;">Things to do</div> </th></tr> <tr> <td style="color:#000"> <ul><li><b><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Be_bold" title="Wikipedia:Be bold">Be bold in editing</a></b> • <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Article_development" title="Wikipedia:Article development">Help develop an article</a></li> <li><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Maintenance" title="Wikipedia:Maintenance">Maintenance</a> • <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Peer_review" title="Wikipedia:Peer review">Peer review</a> • <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Requested_articles" title="Wikipedia:Requested articles">Requested articles</a></li> <li><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject" title="Wikipedia:WikiProject">Join a WikiProject</a> • <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Translation" title="Wikipedia:Translation">Translating articles</a></li> <li>Cleaning up: <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Cleanup" title="Wikipedia:Cleanup">General</a> • <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Spam" title="Wikipedia:WikiProject Spam">Spam</a> • <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Cleaning_up_vandalism" title="Wikipedia:Cleaning up vandalism">Vandalism</a></li></ul> </td></tr> <tr> <th><div style="margin: 0; background-color:white; font-family: sans-serif; font-size:120%; font-weight:bold; border:1px solid lightgrey; text-align:left; color:grey; padding-left:0.4em; padding-top: 0.2em; padding-bottom: 0.2em;">Miscellaneous</div> </th></tr> <tr> <td style="color:#000"> <ul><li><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Categorization" title="Wikipedia:Categorization">Categories</a> • <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Disambiguation" title="Wikipedia:Disambiguation">Disambiguity</a> • <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Stub" title="Wikipedia:Stub">Stubs</a></li> <li><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:User_pages" title="Wikipedia:User pages">User pages</a> • <a href="/wiki/Help:Using_talk_pages" class="mw-redirect" title="Help:Using talk pages">Talk pages</a></li> <li><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Template_messages" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:Template messages">Useful templates</a> • <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Tools" title="Wikipedia:Tools">Tools</a> • <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_User_scripts" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:WikiProject User scripts">User scripts</a></li></ul> </td></tr></tbody></table> </td></tr></tbody></table> </td></tr></tbody></table> <p>P.S. I love your <a href="/wiki/User:Permstrump" title="User:Permstrump">User page</a>, created just so your User links won't be red! I don't think you misunderstood at all; it looks just fine to me.--<a href="/wiki/User:Gronk_Oz" title="User:Gronk Oz">Gronk Oz</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Gronk_Oz" title="User talk:Gronk Oz">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Permstrump#c-Gronk_Oz-2015-12-07T08:20:00.000Z-Welcome!" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">08:20, 7 December 2015 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Gronk_Oz-2015-12-07T08:20:00.000Z-Welcome!"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Gronk_Oz-2015-12-07T08:20:00.000Z-Welcome!"></span> </p> <ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-OlEnglish-2015-12-07T08:27:00.000Z-Gronk_Oz-2015-12-07T08:20:00.000Z"></span>I concur. :) Welcome to Wikipedia! I sincerely hope you stick around and become part of the community. -- <span style="font-size:1.6em;line-height:.8em;"><a href="/wiki/User:OlEnglish" title="User:OlEnglish">œ</a></span><a href="/wiki/User_talk:OlEnglish" title="User talk:OlEnglish"><sup>™</sup></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Permstrump#c-OlEnglish-2015-12-07T08:27:00.000Z-Gronk_Oz-2015-12-07T08:20:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">08:27, 7 December 2015 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-OlEnglish-2015-12-07T08:27:00.000Z-Gronk_Oz-2015-12-07T08:20:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-OlEnglish-2015-12-07T08:27:00.000Z-Gronk_Oz-2015-12-07T08:20:00.000Z"></span></li></ul> <dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Permstrump-2015-12-07T10:01:00.000Z-OlEnglish-2015-12-07T08:27:00.000Z"></span>Thank you, <a href="/wiki/User:Gronk_Oz" title="User:Gronk Oz">Gronk Oz</a> and <a href="/wiki/User:OlEnglish" title="User:OlEnglish">œ</a>! Now my "Talk" link won't be red either! My goal right now is to work on being <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:BOLD" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:BOLD">WP:BOLD</a>. :) <a href="/wiki/User:Permstrump" title="User:Permstrump">Permstrump</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Permstrump#c-Permstrump-2015-12-07T10:01:00.000Z-OlEnglish-2015-12-07T08:27:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:01, 7 December 2015 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Permstrump-2015-12-07T10:01:00.000Z-OlEnglish-2015-12-07T08:27:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Permstrump-2015-12-07T10:01:00.000Z-OlEnglish-2015-12-07T08:27:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="A_barnstar_for_you!" data-mw-thread-id="h-A_barnstar_for_you!-2015-12-11T21:30:00.000Z"><span id="A_barnstar_for_you.21"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-A_barnstar_for_you!-2015-12-11T21:30:00.000Z"></span>A barnstar for you!<span data-mw-comment-end="h-A_barnstar_for_you!-2015-12-11T21:30:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Permstrump&action=edit&section=1" title="Edit section: A barnstar for you!"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <table style="background-color: #fdffe7; border: 1px solid #fceb92;"> <tbody><tr> <td rowspan="2" style="vertical-align: middle; padding: 5px;"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Rhododendrites-2015-12-11T21:30:00.000Z-A_barnstar_for_you!"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:WikiDefender_Barnstar_Hires.png" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/e4/WikiDefender_Barnstar_Hires.png/100px-WikiDefender_Barnstar_Hires.png" decoding="async" width="100" height="95" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/e4/WikiDefender_Barnstar_Hires.png/150px-WikiDefender_Barnstar_Hires.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/e4/WikiDefender_Barnstar_Hires.png/200px-WikiDefender_Barnstar_Hires.png 2x" data-file-width="2000" data-file-height="1900"/></a></span> </td> <td style="font-size: x-large; padding: 3px 3px 0 3px; height: 1.5em;"><b>The Defender of the Wiki Barnstar</b> </td></tr> <tr> <td style="vertical-align: middle; padding: 3px;">For all the work you're doing in the Chaneyverse :) — <span style="font-family:monospace, monospace;"><a href="/wiki/User:Rhododendrites" title="User:Rhododendrites"><span style="font-size:90%;letter-spacing:1px;text-shadow:0px -1px 0px Indigo;">Rhododendrites</span></a> <sup style="font-size:80%;"><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Rhododendrites" title="User talk:Rhododendrites">talk</a></sup></span> \\ <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Permstrump#c-Rhododendrites-2015-12-11T21:30:00.000Z-A_barnstar_for_you!" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:30, 11 December 2015 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Rhododendrites-2015-12-11T21:30:00.000Z-A_barnstar_for_you!"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Rhododendrites-2015-12-11T21:30:00.000Z-A_barnstar_for_you!"></span> </td></tr></tbody></table> <p><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Permstrump-2015-12-11T22:57:00.000Z-A_barnstar_for_you!"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:Rhododendrites" title="User:Rhododendrites">Rhododendrites</a>:</span> Thank you for my first barnstar! I hope you're having as much fun sleuthing as I am. :) <a href="/wiki/User:Permstrump" title="User:Permstrump">Permstrump</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Permstrump#c-Permstrump-2015-12-11T22:57:00.000Z-A_barnstar_for_you!" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:57, 11 December 2015 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Permstrump-2015-12-11T22:57:00.000Z-A_barnstar_for_you!"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Permstrump-2015-12-11T22:57:00.000Z-A_barnstar_for_you!"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Yo_Ho_Ho" data-mw-thread-id="h-Yo_Ho_Ho-2015-12-20T04:35:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Yo_Ho_Ho-2015-12-20T04:35:00.000Z"></span>Yo Ho Ho<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Yo_Ho_Ho-2015-12-20T04:35:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Permstrump&action=edit&section=2" title="Edit section: Yo Ho Ho"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <div style="border-style:solid; border-color:blue; background-color:AliceBlue; border-width:1px; text-align:left; padding:8px;" class="plainlinks"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-MarnetteD-2015-12-20T04:35:00.000Z-Yo_Ho_Ho"></span><figure class="mw-halign-right" typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:4th_Wiseman.jpg" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/63/4th_Wiseman.jpg/62px-4th_Wiseman.jpg" decoding="async" width="62" height="100" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/63/4th_Wiseman.jpg/94px-4th_Wiseman.jpg 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/63/4th_Wiseman.jpg/125px-4th_Wiseman.jpg 2x" data-file-width="475" data-file-height="760"/></a><figcaption></figcaption></figure> <figure class="mw-halign-left" typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Our_little_Alaskan_cousin_(1907)_(14586469407).jpg" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/c/c2/Our_little_Alaskan_cousin_%281907%29_%2814586469407%29.jpg/71px-Our_little_Alaskan_cousin_%281907%29_%2814586469407%29.jpg" decoding="async" width="71" height="100" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/c/c2/Our_little_Alaskan_cousin_%281907%29_%2814586469407%29.jpg/106px-Our_little_Alaskan_cousin_%281907%29_%2814586469407%29.jpg 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/c/c2/Our_little_Alaskan_cousin_%281907%29_%2814586469407%29.jpg/142px-Our_little_Alaskan_cousin_%281907%29_%2814586469407%29.jpg 2x" data-file-width="1648" data-file-height="2324"/></a><figcaption></figcaption></figure> <p><a href="/wiki/User:MarnetteD" title="User:MarnetteD">MarnetteD</a>|<a href="/wiki/User_talk:MarnetteD" title="User talk:MarnetteD">Talk</a> is wishing you <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiLove" title="Wikipedia:WikiLove">Seasons Greetings</a>! Whether you celebrate your hemisphere's <a href="/wiki/Solstice" title="Solstice">Solstice</a> or <a href="/wiki/Christmas" title="Christmas">Christmas</a>, <a href="/wiki/Diwali" title="Diwali">Diwali</a>, <a href="/wiki/Hogmanay" title="Hogmanay">Hogmanay</a>, <a href="/wiki/Hanukkah" title="Hanukkah">Hanukkah</a>, <a href="/wiki/Lenaia" title="Lenaia">Lenaia</a>, <a href="/wiki/Festivus" title="Festivus">Festivus</a> or even the <a href="/wiki/Saturnalia" title="Saturnalia">Saturnalia</a>, this is a special time of year for almost everyone! <br/> </p><p><small>Spread the holiday cheer by adding {{<a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:SUBST" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:SUBST">subst</a>:<a href="/wiki/User:WereSpielChequers/Dec15b" title="User:WereSpielChequers/Dec15b">User:WereSpielChequers/Dec15b</a>}} to your friends' talk pages</small>. </p> <div style="clear:both;" class=""></div> </div> <dl><dd>Make sure to click on both pictures to see them full size Permstrump as they will give you a chuckle. May your 2016 be full of joy and special times. <a href="/wiki/User:MarnetteD" title="User:MarnetteD">MarnetteD</a>|<a href="/wiki/User_talk:MarnetteD" title="User talk:MarnetteD">Talk</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Permstrump#c-MarnetteD-2015-12-20T04:35:00.000Z-Yo_Ho_Ho" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">04:35, 20 December 2015 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-MarnetteD-2015-12-20T04:35:00.000Z-Yo_Ho_Ho"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-MarnetteD-2015-12-20T04:35:00.000Z-Yo_Ho_Ho"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Slavery_in_Malta" data-mw-thread-id="h-Slavery_in_Malta-2016-01-02T01:40:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Slavery_in_Malta-2016-01-02T01:40:00.000Z"></span><a href="/wiki/Slavery_in_Malta" title="Slavery in Malta">Slavery in Malta</a><span data-mw-comment-end="h-Slavery_in_Malta-2016-01-02T01:40:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Permstrump&action=edit&section=3" title="Edit section: Slavery in Malta"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Xwejnusgozo-2016-01-02T01:40:00.000Z-Slavery_in_Malta"></span>Hi Permstrump,<br/> I saw your post <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Pages_needing_translation_into_English#Request_to_translate_Slavery_in_Malta_(fr)" title="Wikipedia talk:Pages needing translation into English">here</a> regarding the translation of the <a href="/wiki/Slavery_in_Malta" title="Slavery in Malta">Slavery in Malta</a> article from French to English. If you're interested in writing the article, I had started a <a href="/wiki/Draft:Slavery_in_Malta" class="mw-redirect" title="Draft:Slavery in Malta">draft of the article</a> some time ago, but I never got around to finishing it. There is also some background information with regards to slavery in 18th century Malta in the <i>Background</i> and <i>Consequences</i> sections of the <a href="/wiki/Conspiracy_of_the_Slaves" class="mw-redirect" title="Conspiracy of the Slaves">Conspiracy of the Slaves</a> article. If you decide on translating the article, I'd be happy to help out :) Best regards and Happy New Year, <a href="/wiki/User:Xwejnusgozo" title="User:Xwejnusgozo">Xwejnusgozo</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Xwejnusgozo" title="User talk:Xwejnusgozo">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Permstrump#c-Xwejnusgozo-2016-01-02T01:40:00.000Z-Slavery_in_Malta" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">01:40, 2 January 2016 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Xwejnusgozo-2016-01-02T01:40:00.000Z-Slavery_in_Malta"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Xwejnusgozo-2016-01-02T01:40:00.000Z-Slavery_in_Malta"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Identifying_Rape_Victims" data-mw-thread-id="h-Identifying_Rape_Victims-2016-02-18T22:28:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Identifying_Rape_Victims-2016-02-18T22:28:00.000Z"></span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Identifying_Rape_Victims&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Identifying Rape Victims (page does not exist)">Identifying Rape Victims</a><span data-mw-comment-end="h-Identifying_Rape_Victims-2016-02-18T22:28:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Permstrump&action=edit&section=4" title="Edit section: Identifying Rape Victims"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-2602:306:8B40:CC20:4195:1D14:8B79:3887-2016-02-18T22:28:00.000Z-Identifying_Rape_Victims"></span>First, we started identifying rape survivors, now it looks like we are outing rape VICTIMS. Did you see the "Rape on Campus" article? "Jackie's" first and last name has been prominently outed in the lede. I hope everyone is proud of themselves. <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/2602:306:8B40:CC20:4195:1D14:8B79:3887" title="Special:Contributions/2602:306:8B40:CC20:4195:1D14:8B79:3887">2602:306:8B40:CC20:4195:1D14:8B79:3887</a> (<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:2602:306:8B40:CC20:4195:1D14:8B79:3887&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:2602:306:8B40:CC20:4195:1D14:8B79:3887 (page does not exist)">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Permstrump#c-2602:306:8B40:CC20:4195:1D14:8B79:3887-2016-02-18T22:28:00.000Z-Identifying_Rape_Victims" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:28, 18 February 2016 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-2602:306:8B40:CC20:4195:1D14:8B79:3887-2016-02-18T22:28:00.000Z-Identifying_Rape_Victims"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-2602:306:8B40:CC20:4195:1D14:8B79:3887-2016-02-18T22:28:00.000Z-Identifying_Rape_Victims"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Clomipramine" data-mw-thread-id="h-Clomipramine-2016-02-22T01:59:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Clomipramine-2016-02-22T01:59:00.000Z"></span>Clomipramine<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Clomipramine-2016-02-22T01:59:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Permstrump&action=edit&section=5" title="Edit section: Clomipramine"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Sundayclose-2016-02-22T01:59:00.000Z-Clomipramine"></span>Your link to the article should read American <b>Psychiatric</b> Association. <a href="/wiki/User:Sundayclose" title="User:Sundayclose">Sundayclose</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Sundayclose" title="User talk:Sundayclose">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Permstrump#c-Sundayclose-2016-02-22T01:59:00.000Z-Clomipramine" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">01:59, 22 February 2016 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Sundayclose-2016-02-22T01:59:00.000Z-Clomipramine"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Sundayclose-2016-02-22T01:59:00.000Z-Clomipramine"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Permstrump-2016-02-22T02:05:00.000Z-Sundayclose-2016-02-22T01:59:00.000Z"></span>Oops! Good catch. I guess my fingers were on autopilot. <a href="/wiki/User:Permstrump" title="User:Permstrump">Permstrump</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Permstrump#c-Permstrump-2016-02-22T02:05:00.000Z-Sundayclose-2016-02-22T01:59:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">02:05, 22 February 2016 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Permstrump-2016-02-22T02:05:00.000Z-Sundayclose-2016-02-22T01:59:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Permstrump-2016-02-22T02:05:00.000Z-Sundayclose-2016-02-22T01:59:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Anti-semitic_anti-Zionism" data-mw-thread-id="h-Anti-semitic_anti-Zionism-2016-03-10T13:04:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Anti-semitic_anti-Zionism-2016-03-10T13:04:00.000Z"></span>Anti-semitic anti-Zionism<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Anti-semitic_anti-Zionism-2016-03-10T13:04:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Permstrump&action=edit&section=6" title="Edit section: Anti-semitic anti-Zionism"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-E.M.Gregory-2016-03-10T13:04:00.000Z-Anti-semitic_anti-Zionism"></span>Can you take a look at the merge discussion on the talk page. Would it be better to simply move this discussion to AFD, where more editors could see it and weigh in?<a href="/wiki/User:E.M.Gregory" title="User:E.M.Gregory">E.M.Gregory</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:E.M.Gregory" title="User talk:E.M.Gregory">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Permstrump#c-E.M.Gregory-2016-03-10T13:04:00.000Z-Anti-semitic_anti-Zionism" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:04, 10 March 2016 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-E.M.Gregory-2016-03-10T13:04:00.000Z-Anti-semitic_anti-Zionism"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-E.M.Gregory-2016-03-10T13:04:00.000Z-Anti-semitic_anti-Zionism"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Permstrump-2016-03-10T23:55:00.000Z-E.M.Gregory-2016-03-10T13:04:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:E.M.Gregory" title="User:E.M.Gregory">E.M.Gregory</a>:</span> Sorry I didn't have a chance to respond before you created the AFD. You must have done that while I was in the middle of writing my reply. I was going to respond on <a href="/w/index.php?title=Talk:Anti-semitic_anti-Zionism&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Talk:Anti-semitic anti-Zionism (page does not exist)">Talk:Anti-semitic anti-Zionism</a>, but I refreshed the screen right before posting and saw your link to the AFD. I was going to suggest <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:RFC" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:RFC">WP:RFC</a>, but either way, I think the important thing was opening it up for discussion somewhere that more people will know about it and can weigh in. I'll give my opinion on the AFD after I have a chance to read through some of the sources and the arguments people have already made on the talk page and AFD. <b><a href="/wiki/User:Permstrump" title="User:Permstrump"><span style="color:indigo;">PermStrump</span></a></b> <a href="/wiki/User:Permstrump" title="User:Permstrump"><span style="color:steelblue;">(talk)</span></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Permstrump#c-Permstrump-2016-03-10T23:55:00.000Z-E.M.Gregory-2016-03-10T13:04:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:55, 10 March 2016 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Permstrump-2016-03-10T23:55:00.000Z-E.M.Gregory-2016-03-10T13:04:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Permstrump-2016-03-10T23:55:00.000Z-E.M.Gregory-2016-03-10T13:04:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-E.M.Gregory-2016-03-11T00:45:00.000Z-Permstrump-2016-03-10T23:55:00.000Z"></span>Thanks, I also hope that some editors familiar with the topic will improve the article.<a href="/wiki/User:E.M.Gregory" title="User:E.M.Gregory">E.M.Gregory</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:E.M.Gregory" title="User talk:E.M.Gregory">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Permstrump#c-E.M.Gregory-2016-03-11T00:45:00.000Z-Permstrump-2016-03-10T23:55:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:45, 11 March 2016 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-E.M.Gregory-2016-03-11T00:45:00.000Z-Permstrump-2016-03-10T23:55:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-E.M.Gregory-2016-03-11T00:45:00.000Z-Permstrump-2016-03-10T23:55:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-68.195.145.80-2016-07-27T01:20:00.000Z-Anti-semitic_anti-Zionism"></span>Why do you keep removing information on the Neturei Karta? They are a well known anti Zionist group. They are very small but get significant media coverage and their existence is used widely by other anti-zionist and anti Jewish groups to work against Israel. This is there wikipedia page <a class="external free" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neturei_Karta">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neturei_Karta</a> <small class="autosigned">— Preceding <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Signatures" title="Wikipedia:Signatures">unsigned</a> comment added by <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/68.195.145.80" title="Special:Contributions/68.195.145.80">68.195.145.80</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:68.195.145.80" title="User talk:68.195.145.80">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Permstrump#c-68.195.145.80-2016-07-27T01:20:00.000Z-Anti-semitic_anti-Zionism" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">01:20, 27 July 2016 (UTC)</a></small><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-68.195.145.80-2016-07-27T01:20:00.000Z-Anti-semitic_anti-Zionism"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-68.195.145.80-2016-07-27T01:20:00.000Z-Anti-semitic_anti-Zionism"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Permstrump-2016-07-27T01:31:00.000Z-68.195.145.80-2016-07-27T01:20:00.000Z"></span>Was this meant for someone else? I've never edited that article and I don't remember hearing of it before. Where did I remove something about them? <a href="/wiki/User:Permstrump" title="User:Permstrump"><font color="indigo">—<b>PermStrump</b></font></a><a class="mw-selflink selflink"><font color="steelblue">(<u>talk</u>)</font></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Permstrump#c-Permstrump-2016-07-27T01:31:00.000Z-68.195.145.80-2016-07-27T01:20:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">01:31, 27 July 2016 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Permstrump-2016-07-27T01:31:00.000Z-68.195.145.80-2016-07-27T01:20:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Permstrump-2016-07-27T01:31:00.000Z-68.195.145.80-2016-07-27T01:20:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <p>Here is your removal (cur | prev) 09:04, 6 April 2016‎ Permstrump (talk | contribs)‎ . . (80,675 bytes) (-2,041)‎ . . (→‎Anti-Zionism and antisemitism: Removed paragraph re: Shulamit Aloni WP:FAILEDVERIFICATION; removed section re: Neturei Karta: WP:WEIGHT;) <small class="autosigned">— Preceding <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Signatures" title="Wikipedia:Signatures">unsigned</a> comment added by <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/68.195.145.80" title="Special:Contributions/68.195.145.80">68.195.145.80</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:68.195.145.80" title="User talk:68.195.145.80">talk</a>) </small> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Jackie_identified_again" data-mw-thread-id="h-Jackie_identified_again-2016-03-13T23:05:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Jackie_identified_again-2016-03-13T23:05:00.000Z"></span>Jackie identified again<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Jackie_identified_again-2016-03-13T23:05:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Permstrump&action=edit&section=7" title="Edit section: Jackie identified again"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-2602:301:772D:62D0:2D48:C895:8340:48C2-2016-03-13T23:05:00.000Z-Jackie_identified_again"></span>I've given up. Jackie has again been outed in the talk page for "A Rape on Campus". I have repeatedly asked to not out rape victims but no one wants to listen. See you guys win. Her name is now exposed for all to see. A pity. <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/2602:301:772D:62D0:2D48:C895:8340:48C2" title="Special:Contributions/2602:301:772D:62D0:2D48:C895:8340:48C2">2602:301:772D:62D0:2D48:C895:8340:48C2</a> (<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:2602:301:772D:62D0:2D48:C895:8340:48C2&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:2602:301:772D:62D0:2D48:C895:8340:48C2 (page does not exist)">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Permstrump#c-2602:301:772D:62D0:2D48:C895:8340:48C2-2016-03-13T23:05:00.000Z-Jackie_identified_again" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:05, 13 March 2016 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-2602:301:772D:62D0:2D48:C895:8340:48C2-2016-03-13T23:05:00.000Z-Jackie_identified_again"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-2602:301:772D:62D0:2D48:C895:8340:48C2-2016-03-13T23:05:00.000Z-Jackie_identified_again"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Permstrump-2016-03-13T23:10:00.000Z-2602:301:772D:62D0:2D48:C895:8340:48C2-2016-03-13T23:05:00.000Z"></span>Thanks for the heads up. I removed her last name again, because the talkpage is subject to the same policies as the main article. <a href="/wiki/User:Permstrump" title="User:Permstrump"><b style="color:indigo;">PermStrump</b></a><a href="/wiki/User:Permstrump" title="User:Permstrump"><span style="color:steelblue;">(talk)</span></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Permstrump#c-Permstrump-2016-03-13T23:10:00.000Z-2602:301:772D:62D0:2D48:C895:8340:48C2-2016-03-13T23:05:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:10, 13 March 2016 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Permstrump-2016-03-13T23:10:00.000Z-2602:301:772D:62D0:2D48:C895:8340:48C2-2016-03-13T23:05:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Permstrump-2016-03-13T23:10:00.000Z-2602:301:772D:62D0:2D48:C895:8340:48C2-2016-03-13T23:05:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Category:People_with_attention_deficit_hyperactivity_disorder" data-mw-thread-id="h-Category:People_with_attention_deficit_hyperactivity_disorder-2016-03-15T12:23:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Category:People_with_attention_deficit_hyperactivity_disorder-2016-03-15T12:23:00.000Z"></span>Category:People with attention deficit hyperactivity disorder<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Category:People_with_attention_deficit_hyperactivity_disorder-2016-03-15T12:23:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Permstrump&action=edit&section=8" title="Edit section: Category:People with attention deficit hyperactivity disorder"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Tanbircdq-2016-03-15T12:23:00.000Z-Category:People_with_attention_deficit_hyperactivity_disorder"></span>Hi, if you believe that the category <a href="/wiki/Category:People_with_attention_deficit_hyperactivity_disorder" title="Category:People with attention deficit hyperactivity disorder">Category:People with attention deficit hyperactivity disorder</a> is not defining under <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:CATGRS" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:CATGRS">WP:CATGRS</a>, then you would need to <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:CFD" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:CFD">nominate it for deletion</a> rather than emptying it. Take care. <a href="/wiki/User:Tanbircdq" title="User:Tanbircdq">Tanbircdq</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Tanbircdq" title="User talk:Tanbircdq">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Permstrump#c-Tanbircdq-2016-03-15T12:23:00.000Z-Category:People_with_attention_deficit_hyperactivity_disorder" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:23, 15 March 2016 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Tanbircdq-2016-03-15T12:23:00.000Z-Category:People_with_attention_deficit_hyperactivity_disorder"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Tanbircdq-2016-03-15T12:23:00.000Z-Category:People_with_attention_deficit_hyperactivity_disorder"></span> </p> <dl><dd><a href="/wiki/User:Tanbircdq" title="User:Tanbircdq"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Permstrump-2016-03-15T14:52:00.000Z-Tanbircdq-2016-03-15T12:23:00.000Z"></span>Tanbircdq</a> I suppose for some of the people it could be defining, so that's why I didn't nominate it for deletion. In the first half of the alphabet, there were about 5 people that it was at least arguable, so I didn't remove their names from the category. Most people just had a passing mention of ADHD in a questionable source (or no source). <a href="/wiki/User:Permstrump" title="User:Permstrump"><b style="color:indigo;">PermStrump</b></a><a href="/wiki/User:Permstrump" title="User:Permstrump"><span style="color:steelblue;">(talk)</span></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Permstrump#c-Permstrump-2016-03-15T14:52:00.000Z-Tanbircdq-2016-03-15T12:23:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:52, 15 March 2016 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Permstrump-2016-03-15T14:52:00.000Z-Tanbircdq-2016-03-15T12:23:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Permstrump-2016-03-15T14:52:00.000Z-Tanbircdq-2016-03-15T12:23:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Tanbircdq-2016-03-15T15:50:00.000Z-Permstrump-2016-03-15T14:52:00.000Z"></span>I restored the category on articles where there are available sources supporting its inclusion and left it omitted on the articles where there is not. <a href="/wiki/User:Tanbircdq" title="User:Tanbircdq">Tanbircdq</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Tanbircdq" title="User talk:Tanbircdq">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Permstrump#c-Tanbircdq-2016-03-15T15:50:00.000Z-Permstrump-2016-03-15T14:52:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:50, 15 March 2016 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Tanbircdq-2016-03-15T15:50:00.000Z-Permstrump-2016-03-15T14:52:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Tanbircdq-2016-03-15T15:50:00.000Z-Permstrump-2016-03-15T14:52:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><a href="/wiki/User:Tanbircdq" title="User:Tanbircdq"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Permstrump-2016-03-15T16:15:00.000Z-Tanbircdq-2016-03-15T15:50:00.000Z"></span>Tanbircdq</a>, the ones where I left the statements about ADHD within the body at least had sources that seemed like they were verifiable and indicated noteworthiness. The standard for <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:CATDEF" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:CATDEF">WP:DEFINING</a> is higher though and I had a pretty low bar for "defining." For example, I didn't remove <a href="/wiki/Katherine_Ellison" title="Katherine Ellison">Katherine Ellison</a> from the category, because she's written a book about raising her son when they both have ADHD. There are plenty of sources about her that don't reference ADHD, because she was notable before that, but even though someone <i>could</i> argue that it's not defining for her, I left her in the category, because there's at least an argument that it is. On the other hand, the one source for <a href="/wiki/Avril_Lavigne" title="Avril Lavigne">Avril Lavigne</a> was a video of her saying, "I'm, like, so ADD I couldn't sit still on the plane" and the other was a gossip mag/not RS. The vast majority of sources about her don't mention ADHD, so it's clearly not defining, and I'd say it's even questionable that she ever meant it more than a figure of speech. <a href="/wiki/User:Permstrump" title="User:Permstrump"><b style="color:indigo;">PermStrump</b></a><a href="/wiki/User:Permstrump" title="User:Permstrump"><span style="color:steelblue;">(talk)</span></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Permstrump#c-Permstrump-2016-03-15T16:15:00.000Z-Tanbircdq-2016-03-15T15:50:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:15, 15 March 2016 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Permstrump-2016-03-15T16:15:00.000Z-Tanbircdq-2016-03-15T15:50:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Permstrump-2016-03-15T16:15:00.000Z-Tanbircdq-2016-03-15T15:50:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Canlawtictoc-2019-02-24T00:18:00.000Z-Category:People_with_attention_deficit_hyperactivity_disorder"></span>To do the right thing, you must come forward and be courageous. "Who are you?" "I am Spart---- anonymous man." <a href="/wiki/User:Canlawtictoc" title="User:Canlawtictoc">Canlawtictoc</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Canlawtictoc" title="User talk:Canlawtictoc">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Permstrump#c-Canlawtictoc-2019-02-24T00:18:00.000Z-Category:People_with_attention_deficit_hyperactivity_disorder" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:18, 24 February 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Canlawtictoc-2019-02-24T00:18:00.000Z-Category:People_with_attention_deficit_hyperactivity_disorder"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Canlawtictoc-2019-02-24T00:18:00.000Z-Category:People_with_attention_deficit_hyperactivity_disorder"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="EL_removal_summary" data-mw-thread-id="h-EL_removal_summary-2016-05-06T15:28:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-EL_removal_summary-2016-05-06T15:28:00.000Z"></span>EL removal summary<span data-mw-comment-end="h-EL_removal_summary-2016-05-06T15:28:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Permstrump&action=edit&section=9" title="Edit section: EL removal summary"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-LadyofShalott-2016-05-06T15:28:00.000Z-EL_removal_summary"></span>In this <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Baconique_meal&diff=718891307&oldid=698781226">edit</a> you removed a link I added to an article I started. I have no problem with the removal of the link (which no longer seems to work). I do have a problem with your edit summary. It was not spam. At the time I added the link, I did so because it seemed pertinent to the article. Feel free to examine my edit history - you will see that I am not a spammer. Please be a bit more courteous in your summaries. <span style="font-family: Lucida Calligraphy"><a href="/wiki/User:LadyofShalott" title="User:LadyofShalott"><span style="color: #442288">Lady</span></a><span style="color: #22aaaa">of</span><a href="/wiki/User_talk:LadyofShalott" title="User talk:LadyofShalott"><span style="color: #cc2288">Shalott</span></a></span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Permstrump#c-LadyofShalott-2016-05-06T15:28:00.000Z-EL_removal_summary" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:28, 6 May 2016 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-LadyofShalott-2016-05-06T15:28:00.000Z-EL_removal_summary"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-LadyofShalott-2016-05-06T15:28:00.000Z-EL_removal_summary"></span> </p> <dl><dd><a href="/wiki/User:LadyofShalott" title="User:LadyofShalott"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Permstrump-2016-05-06T15:40:00.000Z-LadyofShalott-2016-05-06T15:28:00.000Z"></span>LadyofShalott</a>: My apologies. I wasn't intending to call anyone a spammer. I was removing a lot of spam at the moment, so I did assume too quickly when the link was broken to a website wasn't in English. <a href="/wiki/User:Permstrump" title="User:Permstrump"><b style="color:indigo;">PermStrump</b></a><a href="/wiki/User:Permstrump" title="User:Permstrump"><span style="color:steelblue;">(talk)</span></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Permstrump#c-Permstrump-2016-05-06T15:40:00.000Z-LadyofShalott-2016-05-06T15:28:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:40, 6 May 2016 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Permstrump-2016-05-06T15:40:00.000Z-LadyofShalott-2016-05-06T15:28:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Permstrump-2016-05-06T15:40:00.000Z-LadyofShalott-2016-05-06T15:28:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-LadyofShalott-2016-05-06T16:11:00.000Z-Permstrump-2016-05-06T15:40:00.000Z"></span>Thank you, and I apologize for being grumpy! :) <span style="font-family: Lucida Calligraphy"><a href="/wiki/User:LadyofShalott" title="User:LadyofShalott"><span style="color: #442288">Lady</span></a><span style="color: #22aaaa">of</span><a href="/wiki/User_talk:LadyofShalott" title="User talk:LadyofShalott"><span style="color: #cc2288">Shalott</span></a></span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Permstrump#c-LadyofShalott-2016-05-06T16:11:00.000Z-Permstrump-2016-05-06T15:40:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:11, 6 May 2016 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-LadyofShalott-2016-05-06T16:11:00.000Z-Permstrump-2016-05-06T15:40:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-LadyofShalott-2016-05-06T16:11:00.000Z-Permstrump-2016-05-06T15:40:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Narcissistic_Personality_Disorder_definition_updates" data-mw-thread-id="h-Narcissistic_Personality_Disorder_definition_updates-2016-05-06T19:04:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Narcissistic_Personality_Disorder_definition_updates-2016-05-06T19:04:00.000Z"></span>Narcissistic Personality Disorder definition updates<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Narcissistic_Personality_Disorder_definition_updates-2016-05-06T19:04:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Permstrump&action=edit&section=10" title="Edit section: Narcissistic Personality Disorder definition updates"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Everydayrationality-2016-05-06T19:04:00.000Z-Narcissistic_Personality_Disorder_definition_updates"></span>Hi Permstrump - Thanks for agreeing to take on the rewrite of the diagnostic criteria for Narcissistic Personality Disorder. I would be happy to help but I do not know the nuances of the Wikipedia copyright/extensive paraphrasing policy at all let alone how to avoid violating it in a tricky situation like this where we want to preserve fidelity to the definition without veering into "extensive paraphrasing" or use beyond what fair use allows, which already seems to have been an issue in WP articles on DSM topics. As you're probably aware, there is greater attention on NPD right now than ever before. Some are even arguing that one or more current U.S. presidential candidates may meet the diagnostic criteria. It would be incredibly helpful for educating voters in the U.S. if we could point them to a WP article that included up-to-date diagnostic criteria so they can study and make their own decisions on the topic, or at least learn a bit, so if you have time to work on this soon it could be a very timely edit. <a href="/wiki/User:Everydayrationality" title="User:Everydayrationality">Everydayrationality</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Everydayrationality" title="User talk:Everydayrationality">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Permstrump#c-Everydayrationality-2016-05-06T19:04:00.000Z-Narcissistic_Personality_Disorder_definition_updates" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:04, 6 May 2016 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Everydayrationality-2016-05-06T19:04:00.000Z-Narcissistic_Personality_Disorder_definition_updates"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Everydayrationality-2016-05-06T19:04:00.000Z-Narcissistic_Personality_Disorder_definition_updates"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Permstrump-2016-05-06T19:30:00.000Z-Everydayrationality-2016-05-06T19:04:00.000Z"></span>Hi <a href="/wiki/User:Everydayrationality" title="User:Everydayrationality">Everydayrationality</a> - I did update the criteria with <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Narcissistic_personality_disorder&diff=717706584&oldid=717697170">this edit</a> a few hours after I posted on the talkpage. Here's a <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Narcissistic_personality_disorder&diff=717682377&oldid=717669570">link</a> to the edits with the previous version before I removed the copyright violations. It wasn't copied from the DSM, but from whatever was the source given. Did you think it was still too closely worded? <a href="/wiki/User:Permstrump" title="User:Permstrump"><b style="color:indigo;">PermStrump</b></a><a href="/wiki/User:Permstrump" title="User:Permstrump"><span style="color:steelblue;">(talk)</span></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Permstrump#c-Permstrump-2016-05-06T19:30:00.000Z-Everydayrationality-2016-05-06T19:04:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:30, 6 May 2016 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Permstrump-2016-05-06T19:30:00.000Z-Everydayrationality-2016-05-06T19:04:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Permstrump-2016-05-06T19:30:00.000Z-Everydayrationality-2016-05-06T19:04:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="RFC" data-mw-thread-id="h-RFC-2016-05-13T18:30:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-RFC-2016-05-13T18:30:00.000Z"></span>RFC<span data-mw-comment-end="h-RFC-2016-05-13T18:30:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Permstrump&action=edit&section=11" title="Edit section: RFC"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-WhatamIdoing-2016-05-13T18:30:00.000Z-RFC"></span>I share your pessimism about getting a useful result from an RFC. Few outside respondents would read the article before replying, and even fewer would spend any time looking for other sources. It would have a higher than usual risk of attracting personal opinions instead of source-based editing. </p><p>At this point, there's so much traffic and so many discussions going on that I don't expect good results. It might be effective for you to pick a single, less-controversial fact or a single, less-disputed paragraph (not in the lead) and see if you can find consensus around that single thing. It's slow to work through an article like that, and you may have to put up with them trashing the rest of the article around you, but you might be able to get a few bits stabilized. <a href="/wiki/User:WhatamIdoing" title="User:WhatamIdoing">WhatamIdoing</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:WhatamIdoing" title="User talk:WhatamIdoing">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Permstrump#c-WhatamIdoing-2016-05-13T18:30:00.000Z-RFC" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:30, 13 May 2016 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-WhatamIdoing-2016-05-13T18:30:00.000Z-RFC"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-WhatamIdoing-2016-05-13T18:30:00.000Z-RFC"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="SPD" data-mw-thread-id="h-SPD-2016-05-14T17:32:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-SPD-2016-05-14T17:32:00.000Z"></span>SPD<span data-mw-comment-end="h-SPD-2016-05-14T17:32:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Permstrump&action=edit&section=12" title="Edit section: SPD"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Chibs007-2016-05-14T17:32:00.000Z-SPD"></span>Hi! Thanks for helping edit the Sensory Processing Disorder wiki. I have a question. The internal link you deleted was added to calm down disputes between different "factions" of theory in the SPD community. What should we do if there is conflict again? Personally, I would rather leave things the most according to Wikipedia editing protocols. <a href="/wiki/User:Chibs007" title="User:Chibs007">Chibs007</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Chibs007" title="User talk:Chibs007">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Permstrump#c-Chibs007-2016-05-14T17:32:00.000Z-SPD" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:32, 14 May 2016 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Chibs007-2016-05-14T17:32:00.000Z-SPD"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Chibs007-2016-05-14T17:32:00.000Z-SPD"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Permstrump-2016-05-14T17:49:00.000Z-Chibs007-2016-05-14T17:32:00.000Z"></span>Hi! <span class="template-ping">@<a href="/wiki/User:Chibs007" title="User:Chibs007">Chibs007</a>:</span> I don't see any conversation about it on <a href="/wiki/Talk:Sensory_processing_disorder" title="Talk:Sensory processing disorder">Talk:Sensory processing disorder</a>. Is it in an archive? To be honest, I'm not aware of what the factions or disputes are in relation to SPD. It was a purely stylistic edit. It's hard for me to imagine what kind of dispute that would resolve when the table of contents is right above the classification section that had the internal link <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Sensory_processing_disorder&diff=718165804&oldid=717914781">I removed.</a> <a href="/wiki/User:Permstrump" title="User:Permstrump"><b style="color:indigo;">PermStrump</b></a><a href="/wiki/User:Permstrump" title="User:Permstrump"><span style="color:steelblue;">(talk)</span></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Permstrump#c-Permstrump-2016-05-14T17:49:00.000Z-Chibs007-2016-05-14T17:32:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:49, 14 May 2016 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Permstrump-2016-05-14T17:49:00.000Z-Chibs007-2016-05-14T17:32:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Permstrump-2016-05-14T17:49:00.000Z-Chibs007-2016-05-14T17:32:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Volunteer_Ministers" data-mw-thread-id="h-Volunteer_Ministers-2016-05-23T23:46:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Volunteer_Ministers-2016-05-23T23:46:00.000Z"></span>Volunteer Ministers<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Volunteer_Ministers-2016-05-23T23:46:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Permstrump&action=edit&section=13" title="Edit section: Volunteer Ministers"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Nonchalant77-2016-05-23T23:46:00.000Z-Volunteer_Ministers"></span>Duly noted on the Volunteer Ministers mention related to 9-11 on the Scientology page. I've transferred it to the main Volunteer Ministers page. Thank you.<a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Nonchalant77&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Nonchalant77 (page does not exist)">Nonchalant77</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Nonchalant77" title="User talk:Nonchalant77">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Permstrump#c-Nonchalant77-2016-05-23T23:46:00.000Z-Volunteer_Ministers" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:46, 23 May 2016 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Nonchalant77-2016-05-23T23:46:00.000Z-Volunteer_Ministers"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Nonchalant77-2016-05-23T23:46:00.000Z-Volunteer_Ministers"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="A_barnstar_for_you!_2" data-mw-thread-id="h-A_barnstar_for_you!_2-2016-05-31T13:05:00.000Z"><span id="A_barnstar_for_you.21_2"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-A_barnstar_for_you!_2-2016-05-31T13:05:00.000Z"></span>A barnstar for you!<span data-mw-comment-end="h-A_barnstar_for_you!_2-2016-05-31T13:05:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Permstrump&action=edit&section=14" title="Edit section: A barnstar for you!"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <table style="background-color: #fdffe7; border: 1px solid #fceb92;"> <tbody><tr> <td rowspan="2" style="vertical-align: middle; padding: 5px;"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Jbhunley-2016-05-31T13:05:00.000Z-A_barnstar_for_you!_2"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Barnstar_of_Diligence_Hires.png" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/8c/Barnstar_of_Diligence_Hires.png/100px-Barnstar_of_Diligence_Hires.png" decoding="async" width="100" height="95" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/8c/Barnstar_of_Diligence_Hires.png/150px-Barnstar_of_Diligence_Hires.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/8c/Barnstar_of_Diligence_Hires.png/200px-Barnstar_of_Diligence_Hires.png 2x" data-file-width="2000" data-file-height="1900"/></a></span> </td> <td style="font-size: x-large; padding: 3px 3px 0 3px; height: 1.5em;"><b>The Barnstar of Diligence</b> </td></tr> <tr> <td style="vertical-align: middle; padding: 3px;">Thank you for the great work putting together the table of descriptions and references at <a href="/wiki/Rick_Alan_Ross" title="Rick Alan Ross">Rick Alan Ross</a>! <a href="/wiki/User:Jbhunley" title="User:Jbhunley"><span style="font-family:Monotype Corsiva;font-size:14pt;color:#886600">J</span><span style="font-family:Lucida Calligraphy;font-size:10pt;color:#886600">bh</span></a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Jbhunley" title="User talk:Jbhunley"><span style="color: #00888F"><sup>Talk</sup></span></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Permstrump#c-Jbhunley-2016-05-31T13:05:00.000Z-A_barnstar_for_you!_2" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:05, 31 May 2016 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Jbhunley-2016-05-31T13:05:00.000Z-A_barnstar_for_you!_2"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Jbhunley-2016-05-31T13:05:00.000Z-A_barnstar_for_you!_2"></span> </td></tr></tbody></table> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="2016_Wikimedia_Foundation_Executive_Director_Search_Community_Survey" data-mw-thread-id="h-2016_Wikimedia_Foundation_Executive_Director_Search_Community_Survey-2016-06-01T21:48:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-2016_Wikimedia_Foundation_Executive_Director_Search_Community_Survey-2016-06-01T21:48:00.000Z"></span>2016 Wikimedia Foundation Executive Director Search Community Survey<span data-mw-comment-end="h-2016_Wikimedia_Foundation_Executive_Director_Search_Community_Survey-2016-06-01T21:48:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Permstrump&action=edit&section=15" title="Edit section: 2016 Wikimedia Foundation Executive Director Search Community Survey"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-MediaWiki_message_delivery-2016-06-01T21:48:00.000Z-2016_Wikimedia_Foundation_Executive_Director_Search_Community_Survey"></span>The Board of Trustees of the Wikimedia Foundation has appointed a committee to lead the search for the foundation’s next Executive Director. One of our first tasks is to write the job description of the executive director position, and we are asking for input from the Wikimedia community. Please take a few minutes and complete this survey to help us better understand community and staff expectations for the Wikimedia Foundation Executive Director. </p> <dl><dd><ul><li><a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://wikimedia.qualtrics.com/SE/?SID=SV_5hVS2mJTcJNCxBX">Survey</a>, (hosted by Qualtrics)</li></ul></dd></dl> <p>Thank you, <a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Wikimedia_Foundation_Executive_Director_Transition_Team/2016" class="extiw" title="m:Special:MyLanguage/Wikimedia Foundation Executive Director Transition Team/2016">The Wikimedia Foundation Executive Director Search Steering Committee</a> via <a href="/wiki/User:MediaWiki_message_delivery" title="User:MediaWiki message delivery">MediaWiki message delivery</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:MediaWiki_message_delivery" title="User talk:MediaWiki message delivery">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Permstrump#c-MediaWiki_message_delivery-2016-06-01T21:48:00.000Z-2016_Wikimedia_Foundation_Executive_Director_Search_Community_Survey" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:48, 1 June 2016 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-MediaWiki_message_delivery-2016-06-01T21:48:00.000Z-2016_Wikimedia_Foundation_Executive_Director_Search_Community_Survey"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-MediaWiki_message_delivery-2016-06-01T21:48:00.000Z-2016_Wikimedia_Foundation_Executive_Director_Search_Community_Survey"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Question_from_common_law_--" data-mw-thread-id="h-Question_from_common_law_---2016-06-04T10:09:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Question_from_common_law_---2016-06-04T10:09:00.000Z"></span>Question from common law --<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Question_from_common_law_---2016-06-04T10:09:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Permstrump&action=edit&section=16" title="Edit section: Question from common law --"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-98.229.147.75-2016-06-04T10:09:00.000Z-Question_from_common_law_--"></span>Hi, you asked a good question at <a class="external free" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Common_law#Overlinking%20in%20lead">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Common_law#Overlinking%20in%20lead</a> My reply on that Talk page -- can I have your comments? Thank you. </p><p><a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/98.229.147.75" title="Special:Contributions/98.229.147.75">98.229.147.75</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:98.229.147.75" title="User talk:98.229.147.75">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Permstrump#c-98.229.147.75-2016-06-04T10:09:00.000Z-Question_from_common_law_--" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:09, 4 June 2016 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-98.229.147.75-2016-06-04T10:09:00.000Z-Question_from_common_law_--"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-98.229.147.75-2016-06-04T10:09:00.000Z-Question_from_common_law_--"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Museum" data-mw-thread-id="h-Museum-2016-06-12T02:36:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Museum-2016-06-12T02:36:00.000Z"></span>Museum<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Museum-2016-06-12T02:36:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Permstrump&action=edit&section=17" title="Edit section: Museum"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-K.e.coffman-2016-06-12T02:36:00.000Z-Museum"></span>I confess I've never heard about young Earth creationist movement until last week, so your latest Talk page msg struck me as funny. Separately, I think that "unchurched" is a code word for "atheist" because the movements who use this term cannot bring themselves to spell out "atheist". :-) <a href="/wiki/User:K.e.coffman" title="User:K.e.coffman">K.e.coffman</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:K.e.coffman" title="User talk:K.e.coffman">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Permstrump#c-K.e.coffman-2016-06-12T02:36:00.000Z-Museum" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">02:36, 12 June 2016 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-K.e.coffman-2016-06-12T02:36:00.000Z-Museum"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-K.e.coffman-2016-06-12T02:36:00.000Z-Museum"></span> </p> <dl><dd><a href="/wiki/User:K.e.coffman" title="User:K.e.coffman"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Permstrump-2016-06-12T02:50:00.000Z-K.e.coffman-2016-06-12T02:36:00.000Z"></span>K.e.coffman</a> Do you mean the comment where I said I was removing the unsupported line from lead that said, <style data-mw-deduplicate="TemplateStyles:r1248585704">@media screen{html.skin-theme-clientpref-night .mw-parser-output .inline-quote-talk{color:#00B785}}@media screen and (prefers-color-scheme:dark){html.skin-theme-clientpref-os .mw-parser-output .inline-quote-talk{color:#00B785}}.mw-parser-output .inline-quote-talk{font-family:Georgia,"DejaVu Serif",serif;color:#008560;quotes:none}.mw-parser-output .inline-quote-talk-italic{font-family:inherit;font-style:italic}.mw-parser-output .inline-quote-talk-marks{quotes:"\"""\""}</style><q class="inline-quote-talk">"Tenets of Young Earth creationism nevertheless enjoy substantial support among the general population in the United States..."</q>? They have such substantial support, I can't imagine how you hadn't heard of it until last week! That's funny about "unchurched". I thought it was the guy trying to be polite and not say something like "heathens" or "blasphemers". Did you see my comment on <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:FTN#Creation_Museum" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:FTN">WP:FTN#Creation Museum</a> about "theistic evolutionists"? The one person who responded didn't think it's a dig, but I'm not so sure. I feel like there's no reason to specify otherwise. <a href="/wiki/User:Permstrump" title="User:Permstrump"><font color="indigo">—<b>PermStrump</b></font></a><a class="mw-selflink selflink"><font color="steelblue">(<u>talk</u>)</font></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Permstrump#c-Permstrump-2016-06-12T02:50:00.000Z-K.e.coffman-2016-06-12T02:36:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">02:50, 12 June 2016 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Permstrump-2016-06-12T02:50:00.000Z-K.e.coffman-2016-06-12T02:36:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Permstrump-2016-06-12T02:50:00.000Z-K.e.coffman-2016-06-12T02:36:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-K.e.coffman-2016-06-12T03:08:00.000Z-Permstrump-2016-06-12T02:50:00.000Z"></span>Yes, exactly. Such a popular destination that I've never heard of the Museum either. My general editing area is World War II history, but I'm finding a lot of similarities between pseudoscience and WWII mythology (check out my user page for examples of the weird POV, apologia and downright silly stuff that I found). Creation Museum, AiG, etc. all have the hallmarks of mythology: taking the org's word as gospel; portraying every minute fact in intricate detail; obfuscation; using dubious sources and / or primary sources; etc. BTW, I responded on the Noticeboard discussion. I'm not that well versed in creationism, but anything that looks like obfuscation is suspect to me. Good work checking in on the sources and highlighting the synthesis that was going on. <a href="/wiki/User:K.e.coffman" title="User:K.e.coffman">K.e.coffman</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:K.e.coffman" title="User talk:K.e.coffman">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Permstrump#c-K.e.coffman-2016-06-12T03:08:00.000Z-Permstrump-2016-06-12T02:50:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">03:08, 12 June 2016 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-K.e.coffman-2016-06-12T03:08:00.000Z-Permstrump-2016-06-12T02:50:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-K.e.coffman-2016-06-12T03:08:00.000Z-Permstrump-2016-06-12T02:50:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Permstrump-2016-06-12T03:31:00.000Z-K.e.coffman-2016-06-12T03:08:00.000Z"></span>Funny. I guess all of the fringe is the same no matter what article you're on. I'm mainly interested in editing psychology-related articles and they have a bunch of pop psych, alternative medicine, and scientology fringe that I was thinking reminds me of the Creation Museum. <a href="/wiki/User:Permstrump" title="User:Permstrump"><font color="indigo">—<b>PermStrump</b></font></a><a class="mw-selflink selflink"><font color="steelblue">(<u>talk</u>)</font></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Permstrump#c-Permstrump-2016-06-12T03:31:00.000Z-K.e.coffman-2016-06-12T03:08:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">03:31, 12 June 2016 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Permstrump-2016-06-12T03:31:00.000Z-K.e.coffman-2016-06-12T03:08:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Permstrump-2016-06-12T03:31:00.000Z-K.e.coffman-2016-06-12T03:08:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Judy_Blume" data-mw-thread-id="h-Judy_Blume-2016-06-17T10:09:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Judy_Blume-2016-06-17T10:09:00.000Z"></span>Judy Blume<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Judy_Blume-2016-06-17T10:09:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Permstrump&action=edit&section=18" title="Edit section: Judy Blume"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Valetude-2016-06-17T10:09:00.000Z-Judy_Blume"></span>Are you seriously claiming that the old lede summarized the article better than my suggested version? <a href="/wiki/User:Valetude" title="User:Valetude">Valetude</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Valetude" title="User talk:Valetude">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Permstrump#c-Valetude-2016-06-17T10:09:00.000Z-Judy_Blume" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:09, 17 June 2016 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Valetude-2016-06-17T10:09:00.000Z-Judy_Blume"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Valetude-2016-06-17T10:09:00.000Z-Judy_Blume"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Permstrump-2016-06-17T13:09:00.000Z-Valetude-2016-06-17T10:09:00.000Z"></span>I responded at <a href="/wiki/Talk:Judy_Blume#Lead" title="Talk:Judy Blume">Talk:Judy Blume#Lead</a> <a href="/wiki/User:Permstrump" title="User:Permstrump"><font color="indigo">—<b>PermStrump</b></font></a><a class="mw-selflink selflink"><font color="steelblue">(<u>talk</u>)</font></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Permstrump#c-Permstrump-2016-06-17T13:09:00.000Z-Valetude-2016-06-17T10:09:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:09, 17 June 2016 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Permstrump-2016-06-17T13:09:00.000Z-Valetude-2016-06-17T10:09:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Permstrump-2016-06-17T13:09:00.000Z-Valetude-2016-06-17T10:09:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="GAR" data-mw-thread-id="h-GAR-2016-06-25T17:53:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-GAR-2016-06-25T17:53:00.000Z"></span>GAR<span data-mw-comment-end="h-GAR-2016-06-25T17:53:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Permstrump&action=edit&section=19" title="Edit section: GAR"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Coretheapple-2016-06-25T17:53:00.000Z-GAR"></span>I agree with your comments and I was dismayed by the derogatory, attacking and dismissive comments made by others, especially regarding "core policies" and the disparaging remarks such as "waste of time." I noted too a tendency of some commentators to relish the detail of this article, which is as excessive as I've ever seen. Perhaps the only place where they were more excessive was in <a href="/wiki/William_L._Uanna" title="William L. Uanna">William L. Uanna</a> before that article was edited, principally by k.e. coffman, after I initiated a GAR. It still relies excessively on primary sources. I wonder what is going on in those articles that they seem to be afflicted that way. <a href="/wiki/User:Coretheapple" title="User:Coretheapple">Coretheapple</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Coretheapple" title="User talk:Coretheapple">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Permstrump#c-Coretheapple-2016-06-25T17:53:00.000Z-GAR" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:53, 25 June 2016 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Coretheapple-2016-06-25T17:53:00.000Z-GAR"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Coretheapple-2016-06-25T17:53:00.000Z-GAR"></span> </p> <dl><dd><a href="/wiki/User:Coretheapple" title="User:Coretheapple"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Permstrump-2016-06-25T19:07:00.000Z-Coretheapple-2016-06-25T17:53:00.000Z"></span>Coretheapple</a> I was so glad to see your comment at the bottom of the GAR, because until then, I honestly thought I was in the twilight zone. You were really spot on when you said... "fancruft", "echo chamber", "systemic issue". My gut reaction to skimming some WP:MILHIST GARs since yesterday, is that it feels like a <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:WALLEDGARDEN" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:WALLEDGARDEN">WP:WALLEDGARDEN</a> of massively undue weight and fringe promotion of obscure WWII military topics. It would be less confusing if it didn't seem like it was supported by the project. I'll take a look at the Uanna article. <a href="/wiki/User:Permstrump" title="User:Permstrump"><font color="indigo">—<b>PermStrump</b></font></a><a class="mw-selflink selflink"><font color="steelblue">(<u>talk</u>)</font></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Permstrump#c-Permstrump-2016-06-25T19:07:00.000Z-Coretheapple-2016-06-25T17:53:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:07, 25 June 2016 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Permstrump-2016-06-25T19:07:00.000Z-Coretheapple-2016-06-25T17:53:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Permstrump-2016-06-25T19:07:00.000Z-Coretheapple-2016-06-25T17:53:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Coretheapple-2016-06-25T20:27:00.000Z-Permstrump-2016-06-25T19:07:00.000Z"></span>Thanks very much. I actually understand the enthusiasm. Figures from WWII tend to be either evil or heroic, even if one is not related. But I do think that there is a tendency to get stuck in the weeds. And yes, when I brought what I thought was a slam-dunk GAR I was stunned by the replies too. Uanna at one point had little substantive on the reason for his notability, which is that he was head of security for the <a href="/wiki/Manhattan_Project" title="Manhattan Project">Manhattan Project</a>. Instead, because of heavy editing by the article creator, his son, the article was a repository for family reminiscences and sheer trivia sourced to primary documents. <a href="/wiki/User:Coretheapple" title="User:Coretheapple">Coretheapple</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Coretheapple" title="User talk:Coretheapple">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Permstrump#c-Coretheapple-2016-06-25T20:27:00.000Z-Permstrump-2016-06-25T19:07:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:27, 25 June 2016 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Coretheapple-2016-06-25T20:27:00.000Z-Permstrump-2016-06-25T19:07:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Coretheapple-2016-06-25T20:27:00.000Z-Permstrump-2016-06-25T19:07:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="outdent-template" style="position:relative;left:1px;"><span style="display:block;width:16em;height:0.5em;border-bottom:1px solid #a2a9b1;border-right:1px solid #a2a9b1;"></span><span style="display:block;width:16em;height:0.5em;border-left:1px solid #a2a9b1;"></span></div><p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-K.e.coffman-2016-06-25T22:23:00.000Z-GAR"></span> I believe you guys are spot on the "echo chamber" effect. As far as dismissive comments from the lead reviewer, the explanation perhaps can be found in the <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Military_history/Awards#MisterBee1966_.283.29" title="Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Military history/Awards">MilHist coordinators thread</a>, where unnamed editors (presumably myself, as I'm mentioned later) are described as "aggressively pushing" what the editor refers to as "the very hard line anti-Nazi de WP [attitude, being adopted] to the detriment of numerous articles and lists...". He also suggests that the retired editor "has been hounded off WP (a least in part) by such actions". </p><p>On my Talk page, the same editor alludes to "en Wiki" as if rules here are different vs other wikis (?) and describes a "dim a view on deletionism" that en Wiki supposedly has. He also refers to my "unique" interpretation of what WP:RS is: <a href="/wiki/User_talk:K.e.coffman#Nominations_of_articles_on_Knight.27s_Cross_recipients_for_deletion" title="User talk:K.e.coffman"> Nominations for deletion of Knight's Cross holders</a>. </p><p>Also see <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Fridolin_von_Senger_und_Etterlin&diff=prev&oldid=725372365">"That is not how <b>we</b> do military biographies on en WP"</a>. <a href="/wiki/User:K.e.coffman" title="User:K.e.coffman">K.e.coffman</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:K.e.coffman" title="User talk:K.e.coffman">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Permstrump#c-K.e.coffman-2016-06-25T22:23:00.000Z-GAR" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:23, 25 June 2016 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-K.e.coffman-2016-06-25T22:23:00.000Z-GAR"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-K.e.coffman-2016-06-25T22:23:00.000Z-GAR"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Bruce_Grubb" data-mw-thread-id="h-Bruce_Grubb-2016-07-01T12:11:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Bruce_Grubb-2016-07-01T12:11:00.000Z"></span>Bruce Grubb<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Bruce_Grubb-2016-07-01T12:11:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Permstrump&action=edit&section=20" title="Edit section: Bruce Grubb"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Nyttend&diff=prev&oldid=727777795"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Permstrump-2016-07-02T01:16:00.000Z-Bruce_Grubb"></span>My original message.</a> <a href="/wiki/User:Permstrump" title="User:Permstrump"><font color="indigo">—<b>PermStrump</b></font></a><a class="mw-selflink selflink"><font color="steelblue">(<u>talk</u>)</font></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Permstrump#c-Permstrump-2016-07-02T01:16:00.000Z-Bruce_Grubb" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">01:16, 2 July 2016 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Permstrump-2016-07-02T01:16:00.000Z-Bruce_Grubb"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Permstrump-2016-07-02T01:16:00.000Z-Bruce_Grubb"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Nyttend-2016-07-01T12:11:00.000Z-Permstrump-2016-07-02T01:16:00.000Z"></span>Thanks for your note. Just a clarification — I had noticed the yearlong block and its rationale. My point was that every other block had been unrelated or had had sockpuppetry as a complicating factor. <ul><li>30 June 2016 — breaking his ban</li> <li>15 March 2015 — sockpuppetry and breaking his ban</li> <li>18 March 2014 — sockpuppetry and breaking his ban</li> <li>25 September 2013 — sockpuppetry</li> <li>18 October 2012 — sockpuppetry</li> <li>30 May 2012 — edit-warring</li> <li>29 May 2012 — edit-warring</li> <li>21 December 2009 — edit-warring</li> <li>9 December 2007 — edit-warring</li></ul></dd> <dd>So basically, I couldn't say "Last block for ban evasion was for a time of X" because he hadn't previously gotten blocked merely for ignoring his ban. Thanks for the additional details! <a href="/wiki/User:Nyttend" title="User:Nyttend">Nyttend</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Nyttend" title="User talk:Nyttend">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Permstrump#c-Nyttend-2016-07-01T12:11:00.000Z-Permstrump-2016-07-02T01:16:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:11, 1 July 2016 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Nyttend-2016-07-01T12:11:00.000Z-Permstrump-2016-07-02T01:16:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Nyttend-2016-07-01T12:11:00.000Z-Permstrump-2016-07-02T01:16:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Nyttend&diff=next&oldid=727777795"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Permstrump-2016-07-02T01:16:00.000Z-Nyttend-2016-07-01T12:11:00.000Z"></span>My reply.</a> <a href="/wiki/User:Permstrump" title="User:Permstrump"><font color="indigo">—<b>PermStrump</b></font></a><a class="mw-selflink selflink"><font color="steelblue">(<u>talk</u>)</font></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Permstrump#c-Permstrump-2016-07-02T01:16:00.000Z-Nyttend-2016-07-01T12:11:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">01:16, 2 July 2016 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Permstrump-2016-07-02T01:16:00.000Z-Nyttend-2016-07-01T12:11:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Permstrump-2016-07-02T01:16:00.000Z-Nyttend-2016-07-01T12:11:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Nyttend-2016-07-02T00:58:00.000Z-Permstrump-2016-07-02T01:16:00.000Z"></span>My meaning was (b), since the previous blocks were for ban violation and sockpuppetry; this block was for stuff that wouldn't have warranted sanctions if not for the ban, but all previous blocks warranted sanctions even aside from the ban. <a href="/wiki/User:Nyttend" title="User:Nyttend">Nyttend</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Nyttend" title="User talk:Nyttend">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Permstrump#c-Nyttend-2016-07-02T00:58:00.000Z-Permstrump-2016-07-02T01:16:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:58, 2 July 2016 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Nyttend-2016-07-02T00:58:00.000Z-Permstrump-2016-07-02T01:16:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Nyttend-2016-07-02T00:58:00.000Z-Permstrump-2016-07-02T01:16:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Permstrump-2016-07-02T01:16:00.000Z-Nyttend-2016-07-02T00:58:00.000Z"></span>Thank you for clarifying! <a href="/wiki/User:Permstrump" title="User:Permstrump"><font color="indigo">—<b>PermStrump</b></font></a><a class="mw-selflink selflink"><font color="steelblue">(<u>talk</u>)</font></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Permstrump#c-Permstrump-2016-07-02T01:16:00.000Z-Nyttend-2016-07-02T00:58:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">01:16, 2 July 2016 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Permstrump-2016-07-02T01:16:00.000Z-Nyttend-2016-07-02T00:58:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Permstrump-2016-07-02T01:16:00.000Z-Nyttend-2016-07-02T00:58:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Nyttend-2016-07-02T01:31:00.000Z-Permstrump-2016-07-02T01:16:00.000Z"></span>Quite welcome. <a href="/wiki/User:Nyttend" title="User:Nyttend">Nyttend</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Nyttend" title="User talk:Nyttend">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Permstrump#c-Nyttend-2016-07-02T01:31:00.000Z-Permstrump-2016-07-02T01:16:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">01:31, 2 July 2016 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" 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class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">03:10, 16 July 2016 (UTC)</a></span></small><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Sbboherp-2016-07-16T03:10:00.000Z-Appreciated"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Sbboherp-2016-07-16T03:10:00.000Z-Appreciated"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Just_in_case_i_forget_to_get_on_Wikipedia_my_Youtube_is_Sean's_Apples" data-mw-thread-id="h-Just_in_case_i_forget_to_get_on_Wikipedia_my_Youtube_is_Sean's_Apples-2016-07-16T03:16:00.000Z"><span id="Just_in_case_i_forget_to_get_on_Wikipedia_my_Youtube_is_Sean.27s_Apples"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Just_in_case_i_forget_to_get_on_Wikipedia_my_Youtube_is_Sean's_Apples-2016-07-16T03:16:00.000Z"></span>Just in case i forget to get on Wikipedia my Youtube is Sean's Apples<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Just_in_case_i_forget_to_get_on_Wikipedia_my_Youtube_is_Sean's_Apples-2016-07-16T03:16:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Permstrump&action=edit&section=22" title="Edit section: Just in case i forget to get on Wikipedia my Youtube is Sean's Apples"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Sbboherp-2016-07-16T03:16:00.000Z-Just_in_case_i_forget_to_get_on_Wikipedia_my_Youtube_is_Sean's_Apples"></span>Sean's apples <small><span class="autosigned">— Preceding <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Signatures" title="Wikipedia:Signatures">unsigned</a> comment added by <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Sbboherp&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Sbboherp (page does not exist)">Sbboherp</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Sbboherp" title="User talk:Sbboherp">talk</a> • <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Sbboherp" title="Special:Contributions/Sbboherp">contribs</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Permstrump#c-Sbboherp-2016-07-16T03:16:00.000Z-Just_in_case_i_forget_to_get_on_Wikipedia_my_Youtube_is_Sean's_Apples" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">03:16, 16 July 2016 (UTC)</a></span></small><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Sbboherp-2016-07-16T03:16:00.000Z-Just_in_case_i_forget_to_get_on_Wikipedia_my_Youtube_is_Sean's_Apples"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Sbboherp-2016-07-16T03:16:00.000Z-Just_in_case_i_forget_to_get_on_Wikipedia_my_Youtube_is_Sean's_Apples"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="B._Alan_Wallace" data-mw-thread-id="h-B._Alan_Wallace-2016-07-18T15:58:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-B._Alan_Wallace-2016-07-18T15:58:00.000Z"></span>B. Alan Wallace<span data-mw-comment-end="h-B._Alan_Wallace-2016-07-18T15:58:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Permstrump&action=edit&section=23" title="Edit section: B. Alan Wallace"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Chilton-2016-07-18T15:58:00.000Z-B._Alan_Wallace"></span>I have posted about the article on the BLP noticeboard. <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Chilton&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Chilton (page does not exist)">Chilton</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Chilton" title="User talk:Chilton">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Permstrump#c-Chilton-2016-07-18T15:58:00.000Z-B._Alan_Wallace" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:58, 18 July 2016 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Chilton-2016-07-18T15:58:00.000Z-B._Alan_Wallace"><span 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class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Mr._bobby-2016-08-08T13:17:00.000Z-prenatal_psychology"></span>there is nothing contradictive. the first assumptions concenrning prenatal mental life stem from rank. also others were thinking about that and had anecdotes of prenatal life. later academic psychologists and physiolgists and so on delivered empirical data. </p><p>so, in fact, the sentence you deleted describes the historical development perfectly right. <a href="/wiki/User:Mr._bobby" title="User:Mr. bobby">Mr. bobby</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Mr._bobby" title="User talk:Mr. bobby">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Permstrump#c-Mr._bobby-2016-08-08T13:17:00.000Z-prenatal_psychology" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:17, 8 August 2016 (UTC)</a> <a href="/wiki/User:Mr._bobby" title="User:Mr. bobby">Mr. bobby</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Mr._bobby-2016-08-08T13:17:00.000Z-prenatal_psychology"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Mr._bobby-2016-08-08T13:17:00.000Z-prenatal_psychology"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Permstrump-2016-08-08T13:21:00.000Z-Mr._bobby-2016-08-08T13:17:00.000Z"></span>I'm moving this discussion back to <a href="/wiki/Talk:Prenatal_and_perinatal_psychology" title="Talk:Prenatal and perinatal psychology">Talk:Prenatal and perinatal psychology</a>, because there's no reason to have it in more than one place. <a href="/wiki/User:Permstrump" title="User:Permstrump"><font color="indigo">—<b>PermStrump</b></font></a><a class="mw-selflink selflink"><font color="steelblue">(<u>talk</u>)</font></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Permstrump#c-Permstrump-2016-08-08T13:21:00.000Z-Mr._bobby-2016-08-08T13:17:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:21, 8 August 2016 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Permstrump-2016-08-08T13:21:00.000Z-Mr._bobby-2016-08-08T13:17:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Permstrump-2016-08-08T13:21:00.000Z-Mr._bobby-2016-08-08T13:17:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Not_sure_what_is_with_this?" data-mw-thread-id="h-Not_sure_what_is_with_this?-2016-08-09T19:12:00.000Z"><span id="Not_sure_what_is_with_this.3F"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Not_sure_what_is_with_this?-2016-08-09T19:12:00.000Z"></span>Not sure what is with this?<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Not_sure_what_is_with_this?-2016-08-09T19:12:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Permstrump&action=edit&section=25" title="Edit section: Not sure what is with this?"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><a class="external autonumber" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Bipolar_disorder&type=revision&diff=733656439&oldid=733573630"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Doc_James-2016-08-09T19:12:00.000Z-Not_sure_what_is_with_this?"></span>[1]</a> <a href="/wiki/User:Doc_James" title="User:Doc James"><span style="color:#0000f1"><b>Doc James</b></span></a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Doc_James" title="User talk:Doc James">talk</a> · <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Doc_James" title="Special:Contributions/Doc James">contribs</a> · <a href="/wiki/Special:EmailUser/Doc_James" title="Special:EmailUser/Doc James">email</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Permstrump#c-Doc_James-2016-08-09T19:12:00.000Z-Not_sure_what_is_with_this?" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:12, 9 August 2016 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Doc_James-2016-08-09T19:12:00.000Z-Not_sure_what_is_with_this?"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Doc_James-2016-08-09T19:12:00.000Z-Not_sure_what_is_with_this?"></span> </p> <dl><dd><a href="/wiki/User:Doc_James" title="User:Doc James"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Permstrump-2016-08-09T22:36:00.000Z-Doc_James-2016-08-09T19:12:00.000Z"></span>Doc James</a> I thought it was a mistake because of the font...</dd></dl> <pre>like when I accidentally put a space in front of a new line of text and it looks like this. </pre> <dl><dd>It didn't seem like it had a reason to be there since "manic depression" is already an alternative title in the lead the other two phrases had the word "bipolar" in them, so my first thought was "That had to be an accident. I'll tidy it up." But if it was a conscious decision, I don't really <i>care</i> if it's there. :) <a href="/wiki/User:Permstrump" title="User:Permstrump"><font color="indigo">—<b>PermStrump</b></font></a><a class="mw-selflink selflink"><font color="steelblue">(<u>talk</u>)</font></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Permstrump#c-Permstrump-2016-08-09T22:36:00.000Z-Doc_James-2016-08-09T19:12:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:36, 9 August 2016 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Permstrump-2016-08-09T22:36:00.000Z-Doc_James-2016-08-09T19:12:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Permstrump-2016-08-09T22:36:00.000Z-Doc_James-2016-08-09T19:12:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Doc_James-2016-08-09T22:52:00.000Z-Permstrump-2016-08-09T22:36:00.000Z"></span>Yes the font was change a while ago. We could talk about changing it further. <a href="/wiki/User:Doc_James" title="User:Doc James"><span style="color:#0000f1"><b>Doc James</b></span></a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Doc_James" title="User talk:Doc James">talk</a> · <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Doc_James" title="Special:Contributions/Doc James">contribs</a> · <a href="/wiki/Special:EmailUser/Doc_James" title="Special:EmailUser/Doc James">email</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Permstrump#c-Doc_James-2016-08-09T22:52:00.000Z-Permstrump-2016-08-09T22:36:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:52, 9 August 2016 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Doc_James-2016-08-09T22:52:00.000Z-Permstrump-2016-08-09T22:36:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Doc_James-2016-08-09T22:52:00.000Z-Permstrump-2016-08-09T22:36:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Bipolar" data-mw-thread-id="h-Bipolar-2016-08-10T12:58:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Bipolar-2016-08-10T12:58:00.000Z"></span>Bipolar<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Bipolar-2016-08-10T12:58:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Permstrump&action=edit&section=26" title="Edit section: Bipolar"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Zuormak-2016-08-10T12:58:00.000Z-Bipolar"></span>You're wrong, gender differences are not covered in the 'Epidemiology' section. Bipolar disorder is generally evenly distributed by sex, however, it's clearly detailed that Bipolar type I is more common in men, Bipolar type II and Cyclothymia is more common in women. Again, this is not detailed in this 'Epidemiology' section. </p><p>Furthermore, I had good information and studies, sourced from the NCBI that you deleted - I would recommend reading the studies and reconsidering.. <small><span class="autosigned">— Preceding <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Signatures" title="Wikipedia:Signatures">unsigned</a> comment added by <a href="/wiki/User:Zuormak" title="User:Zuormak">Zuormak</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Zuormak" title="User talk:Zuormak">talk</a> • <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Zuormak" title="Special:Contributions/Zuormak">contribs</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Permstrump#c-Zuormak-2016-08-10T12:58:00.000Z-Bipolar" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:58, 10 August 2016 (UTC)</a></span></small><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Zuormak-2016-08-10T12:58:00.000Z-Bipolar"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Zuormak-2016-08-10T12:58:00.000Z-Bipolar"></span> </p> <dl><dd><a href="/wiki/User:Zuormak" title="User:Zuormak"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Permstrump-2016-08-10T23:17:00.000Z-Zuormak-2016-08-10T12:58:00.000Z"></span>Zuormak</a>: See my response at at <a href="/wiki/Talk:Bipolar_disorder" title="Talk:Bipolar disorder">Talk:Bipolar disorder</a>. <a href="/wiki/User:Permstrump" title="User:Permstrump"><font color="indigo">—<b>PermStrump</b></font></a><a class="mw-selflink selflink"><font color="steelblue">(<u>talk</u>)</font></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Permstrump#c-Permstrump-2016-08-10T23:17:00.000Z-Zuormak-2016-08-10T12:58:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:17, 10 August 2016 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Permstrump-2016-08-10T23:17:00.000Z-Zuormak-2016-08-10T12:58:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Permstrump-2016-08-10T23:17:00.000Z-Zuormak-2016-08-10T12:58:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="response_posted_to_Reliable_source:Age_of_Consent_template" data-mw-thread-id="h-response_posted_to_Reliable_source:Age_of_Consent_template-2016-08-11T23:39:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-response_posted_to_Reliable_source:Age_of_Consent_template-2016-08-11T23:39:00.000Z"></span>response posted to Reliable source:Age of Consent template<span data-mw-comment-end="h-response_posted_to_Reliable_source:Age_of_Consent_template-2016-08-11T23:39:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Permstrump&action=edit&section=27" title="Edit section: response posted to Reliable source:Age of Consent template"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Fabrickator-2016-08-11T23:39:00.000Z-response_posted_to_Reliable_source:Age_of_Consent_template"></span>I have posted a response to your question reagrding the "age of consent template" on the "reliable sources" page: </p><p><a class="external free" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Reliable_sources/Noticeboard#Age_of_Consent_template:_primary_vs._secondary_sources">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Reliable_sources/Noticeboard#Age_of_Consent_template:_primary_vs._secondary_sources</a> </p><p><a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Fabrickator&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Fabrickator (page does not exist)">Fabrickator</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Fabrickator" title="User talk:Fabrickator">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Permstrump#c-Fabrickator-2016-08-11T23:39:00.000Z-response_posted_to_Reliable_source:Age_of_Consent_template" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:39, 11 August 2016 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Fabrickator-2016-08-11T23:39:00.000Z-response_posted_to_Reliable_source:Age_of_Consent_template"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Fabrickator-2016-08-11T23:39:00.000Z-response_posted_to_Reliable_source:Age_of_Consent_template"></span> </p> <dl><dd><a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Fabrickator&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Fabrickator (page does not exist)"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Permstrump-2016-08-11T23:48:00.000Z-Fabrickator-2016-08-11T23:39:00.000Z"></span>Fabrickator</a>: Oops sorry I forgot to respond. I saw that yesterday and then got distracted by the actual article. I will respond now. :) <a href="/wiki/User:Permstrump" title="User:Permstrump"><font color="indigo">—<b>PermStrump</b></font></a><a class="mw-selflink selflink"><font color="steelblue">(<u>talk</u>)</font></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Permstrump#c-Permstrump-2016-08-11T23:48:00.000Z-Fabrickator-2016-08-11T23:39:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:48, 11 August 2016 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Permstrump-2016-08-11T23:48:00.000Z-Fabrickator-2016-08-11T23:39:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Permstrump-2016-08-11T23:48:00.000Z-Fabrickator-2016-08-11T23:39:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Thanks!" data-mw-thread-id="h-Thanks!-2016-08-24T02:59:00.000Z"><span id="Thanks.21"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Thanks!-2016-08-24T02:59:00.000Z"></span>Thanks!<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Thanks!-2016-08-24T02:59:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Permstrump&action=edit&section=28" title="Edit section: Thanks!"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Ongmianli-2016-08-24T02:59:00.000Z-Thanks!"></span>Hey Permstrump, I appreciate you bringing my project to WikiMedicine's attention! Always good to get another opinion. Let me know if you are ever interested in what my group is doing! <a href="/wiki/User:Ongmianli" title="User:Ongmianli">Ongmianli</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Ongmianli" title="User talk:Ongmianli">talk</a>) 02:59, 24 August 2016 (UTC) <a href="/wiki/User:Ongmianli" title="User:Ongmianli">Ongmianli</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Ongmianli" title="User talk:Ongmianli">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Permstrump#c-Ongmianli-2016-08-24T02:59:00.000Z-Thanks!" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">02:59, 24 August 2016 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Ongmianli-2016-08-24T02:59:00.000Z-Thanks!"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Ongmianli-2016-08-24T02:59:00.000Z-Thanks!"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Sorry" data-mw-thread-id="h-Sorry-2016-08-25T05:52:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Sorry-2016-08-25T05:52:00.000Z"></span>Sorry<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Sorry-2016-08-25T05:52:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Permstrump&action=edit&section=29" title="Edit section: Sorry"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-LavaBaron-2016-08-25T05:52:00.000Z-Sorry"></span>I hope my response to your note on my Talk page didn't come across as terse. I know that's a fine line and didn't mean to sound aggressive in my reply. I really did appreciate your post. I've edited my comment there slightly so there's no ambiguity. <a class="external autonumber" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Frank_Gaffney&diff=736105299&oldid=736081867">[2]</a> <a href="/wiki/User:LavaBaron" title="User:LavaBaron">LavaBaron</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:LavaBaron" title="User talk:LavaBaron">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Permstrump#c-LavaBaron-2016-08-25T05:52:00.000Z-Sorry" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">05:52, 25 August 2016 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-LavaBaron-2016-08-25T05:52:00.000Z-Sorry"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-LavaBaron-2016-08-25T05:52:00.000Z-Sorry"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Permstrump-2016-08-25T06:00:00.000Z-LavaBaron-2016-08-25T05:52:00.000Z"></span>No worries. I thought it was very polite. Thanks. :) <a href="/wiki/User:Permstrump" title="User:Permstrump"><font color="indigo">—<b>PermStrump</b></font></a><a class="mw-selflink selflink"><font color="steelblue">(<u>talk</u>)</font></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Permstrump#c-Permstrump-2016-08-25T06:00:00.000Z-LavaBaron-2016-08-25T05:52:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">06:00, 25 August 2016 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Permstrump-2016-08-25T06:00:00.000Z-LavaBaron-2016-08-25T05:52:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Permstrump-2016-08-25T06:00:00.000Z-LavaBaron-2016-08-25T05:52:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Narconon_-_errors_in_referencing" data-mw-thread-id="h-Narconon_-_errors_in_referencing-2016-08-30T11:52:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Narconon_-_errors_in_referencing-2016-08-30T11:52:00.000Z"></span>Narconon - errors in referencing<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Narconon_-_errors_in_referencing-2016-08-30T11:52:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Permstrump&action=edit&section=30" title="Edit section: Narconon - errors in referencing"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-CiaPan-2016-08-30T11:52:00.000Z-Narconon_-_errors_in_referencing"></span>On 23rd of June you have removed (hid in comments, actually) some references in the main text of <a href="/wiki/Narconon" title="Narconon">Narconon</a> article – <a href="/wiki/Special:Diff/726677937" title="Special:Diff/726677937">special:diff/726677937</a>. </p><p>However you have not removed the citations themselves, and now they cause a list of errors at the and of the article: </p> <dl><dd><span class="error mw-ext-cite-error"><b>Cite error: A <a href="/wiki/Help:Footnotes#WP:LDR" title="Help:Footnotes">list-defined reference</a> named "....." is not used in the content (see the <a href="/wiki/Help:Cite_errors/Cite_error_references_missing_key" title="Help:Cite errors/Cite error references missing key">help page</a>).</b></span></dd></dl> <p>Could you, please fix that, either by restoring <ref>–s or by removing unused citations...? --<a href="/wiki/User:CiaPan" title="User:CiaPan">CiaPan</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:CiaPan" title="User talk:CiaPan">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Permstrump#c-CiaPan-2016-08-30T11:52:00.000Z-Narconon_-_errors_in_referencing" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:52, 30 August 2016 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-CiaPan-2016-08-30T11:52:00.000Z-Narconon_-_errors_in_referencing"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-CiaPan-2016-08-30T11:52:00.000Z-Narconon_-_errors_in_referencing"></span> </p> <dl><dd><a href="/wiki/User:CiaPan" title="User:CiaPan"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Permstrump-2016-08-30T13:40:00.000Z-CiaPan-2016-08-30T11:52:00.000Z"></span>CiaPan</a>: Thanks for the heads up. I didn't notice those error messages all the way at the end of the reference list before. I think I fixed it. Cite clutter is back in the lead, but I don't really know a better way around it since my first attempt didn't work. <a href="/wiki/User:Permstrump" title="User:Permstrump"><font color="indigo">—<b>PermStrump</b></font></a><a class="mw-selflink selflink"><font color="steelblue">(<u>talk</u>)</font></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Permstrump#c-Permstrump-2016-08-30T13:40:00.000Z-CiaPan-2016-08-30T11:52:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:40, 30 August 2016 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Permstrump-2016-08-30T13:40:00.000Z-CiaPan-2016-08-30T11:52:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Permstrump-2016-08-30T13:40:00.000Z-CiaPan-2016-08-30T11:52:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Stars_and_Barns" data-mw-thread-id="h-Stars_and_Barns-2016-09-13T13:24:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Stars_and_Barns-2016-09-13T13:24:00.000Z"></span>Stars and Barns<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Stars_and_Barns-2016-09-13T13:24:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Permstrump&action=edit&section=31" title="Edit section: Stars and Barns"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <table style="border: 1px solid black; background-color: #fdffe7;"> <tbody><tr> <td rowspan="2" style="vertical-align:middle;"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Timothyjosephwood-2016-09-13T13:24:00.000Z-Stars_and_Barns"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Maryland_Barnstar.png" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/da/Maryland_Barnstar.png/100px-Maryland_Barnstar.png" decoding="async" width="100" height="95" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/da/Maryland_Barnstar.png/150px-Maryland_Barnstar.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/da/Maryland_Barnstar.png/200px-Maryland_Barnstar.png 2x" data-file-width="800" data-file-height="760"/></a></span> </td> <td rowspan="2"> </td> <td style="font-size: x-large; padding: 0; vertical-align: middle; height: 1.1em;"><b>The Maryland Barnstar</b> </td></tr> <tr> <td style="vertical-align: middle; border-top: 1px solid gray;">Many thanks for helping wade through copyright issues and braving Comic-Con to get the right picture. <a href="/wiki/User:Timothyjosephwood" class="mw-redirect" title="User:Timothyjosephwood"><span style="color:#a56d3f;font-family:Impact;">Timothy</span><span style="color:#6f3800;font-family:Impact;">Joseph</span><span style="color:#422501;font-family:Impact;">Wood</span></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Permstrump#c-Timothyjosephwood-2016-09-13T13:24:00.000Z-Stars_and_Barns" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:24, 13 September 2016 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Timothyjosephwood-2016-09-13T13:24:00.000Z-Stars_and_Barns"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Timothyjosephwood-2016-09-13T13:24:00.000Z-Stars_and_Barns"></span> </td></tr></tbody></table> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="GAR:_Joachim_Helbig" data-mw-thread-id="h-GAR:_Joachim_Helbig-2016-10-08T05:59:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-GAR:_Joachim_Helbig-2016-10-08T05:59:00.000Z"></span><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Good_article_reassessment/Joachim_Helbig/1" title="Wikipedia:Good article reassessment/Joachim Helbig/1">GAR: Joachim Helbig</a><span data-mw-comment-end="h-GAR:_Joachim_Helbig-2016-10-08T05:59:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Permstrump&action=edit&section=32" title="Edit section: GAR: Joachim Helbig"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-K.e.coffman-2016-10-08T05:59:00.000Z-GAR:_Joachim_Helbig"></span>Since you are being quoted in the above discussion, I thought I would let you know about it. This one is not extensive as the one where the quote is from, but the concerns are similar. <a href="/wiki/User:K.e.coffman" title="User:K.e.coffman">K.e.coffman</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:K.e.coffman" title="User talk:K.e.coffman">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Permstrump#c-K.e.coffman-2016-10-08T05:59:00.000Z-GAR:_Joachim_Helbig" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">05:59, 8 October 2016 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-K.e.coffman-2016-10-08T05:59:00.000Z-GAR:_Joachim_Helbig"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-K.e.coffman-2016-10-08T05:59:00.000Z-GAR:_Joachim_Helbig"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Permstrump-2016-10-12T22:59:00.000Z-K.e.coffman-2016-10-08T05:59:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:K.e.coffman" title="User:K.e.coffman">K.e.coffman</a>:</span> Thanks. I've been too terrified/obsessed reading the news about the election to pay much attention to WP recently. <a href="/wiki/User:Permstrump" title="User:Permstrump"><font color="indigo">—<b>PermStrump</b></font></a><a class="mw-selflink selflink"><font color="steelblue">(<u>talk</u>)</font></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Permstrump#c-Permstrump-2016-10-12T22:59:00.000Z-K.e.coffman-2016-10-08T05:59:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:59, 12 October 2016 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Permstrump-2016-10-12T22:59:00.000Z-K.e.coffman-2016-10-08T05:59:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Permstrump-2016-10-12T22:59:00.000Z-K.e.coffman-2016-10-08T05:59:00.000Z"></span></dd> <dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Permstrump-2016-10-12T23:00:00.000Z-K.e.coffman-2016-10-08T05:59:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:K.e.coffman" title="User:K.e.coffman">K.e.coffman</a>:</span> Messed up the first ping so doing it again. :) <a href="/wiki/User:Permstrump" title="User:Permstrump"><font color="indigo">—<b>PermStrump</b></font></a><a class="mw-selflink selflink"><font color="steelblue">(<u>talk</u>)</font></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Permstrump#c-Permstrump-2016-10-12T23:00:00.000Z-K.e.coffman-2016-10-08T05:59:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:00, 12 October 2016 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Permstrump-2016-10-12T23:00:00.000Z-K.e.coffman-2016-10-08T05:59:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Permstrump-2016-10-12T23:00:00.000Z-K.e.coffman-2016-10-08T05:59:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Talkback" data-mw-thread-id="h-Talkback-2016-10-28T16:00:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Talkback-2016-10-28T16:00:00.000Z"></span>Talkback<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Talkback-2016-10-28T16:00:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Permstrump&action=edit&section=33" title="Edit section: Talkback"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Shearonink-2016-10-28T16:00:00.000Z-Talkback"></span><style data-mw-deduplicate="TemplateStyles:r1256396942">.mw-parser-output .umbox{background-color:var(--background-color-content-added,#a3d3ff);border:1px solid var(--border-color-progressive,#36c);padding:0.5em 1em;margin:2em 0 1em;font-weight:bold;overflow:auto;vertical-align:middle}</style> <div class="umbox"><figure class="mw-halign-left" typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/Talk:Henrietta_Lacks#Pattillo" title="Talk:Henrietta Lacks"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/2/23/Nuvola_apps_edu_languages.svg/40px-Nuvola_apps_edu_languages.svg.png" decoding="async" width="40" height="40" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/2/23/Nuvola_apps_edu_languages.svg/60px-Nuvola_apps_edu_languages.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/2/23/Nuvola_apps_edu_languages.svg/80px-Nuvola_apps_edu_languages.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="128" data-file-height="128"/></a><figcaption></figcaption></figure>Hello, Permstrump. You have new messages at <a href="/wiki/Talk:Henrietta_Lacks#Pattillo" title="Talk:Henrietta Lacks">Talk:Henrietta Lacks</a>.<br/><span style="font-size: 88%; font-weight: normal;">Message added 16:00, 28 October 2016 (UTC). You can <a href="/wiki/Special:EditPage/User_talk:Permstrump" title="Special:EditPage/User talk:Permstrump">remove this notice</a> at any time by removing the {{Talkback}} or {{Tb}} template.</span></div> <p><a href="/wiki/User:Shearonink" title="User:Shearonink">Shearonink</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Shearonink" title="User talk:Shearonink">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Permstrump#c-Shearonink-2016-10-28T16:00:00.000Z-Talkback" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:00, 28 October 2016 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Shearonink-2016-10-28T16:00:00.000Z-Talkback"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Shearonink-2016-10-28T16:00:00.000Z-Talkback"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="ArbCom_Elections_2016:_Voting_now_open!" data-mw-thread-id="h-ArbCom_Elections_2016:_Voting_now_open!-2016-11-21T22:08:00.000Z"><span id="ArbCom_Elections_2016:_Voting_now_open.21"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-ArbCom_Elections_2016:_Voting_now_open!-2016-11-21T22:08:00.000Z"></span><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:ACE2016" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:ACE2016">ArbCom Elections 2016</a>: Voting now open!<span data-mw-comment-end="h-ArbCom_Elections_2016:_Voting_now_open!-2016-11-21T22:08:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Permstrump&action=edit&section=34" title="Edit section: ArbCom Elections 2016: Voting now open!"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-MediaWiki_message_delivery-2016-11-21T22:08:00.000Z-ArbCom_Elections_2016:_Voting_now_open!"></span><style data-mw-deduplicate="TemplateStyles:r1256334245">.mw-parser-output .ivmbox{margin-bottom:1em;border:1px solid var(--border-color-base,#a2a9b1);background-color:var(--background-color-warning-subtle,#fdf2d5);padding:0.5em;display:flex;align-items:center}@media screen{html.skin-theme-clientpref-night .mw-parser-output .ivmbox[style*="background"]{background-color:var(--background-color-warning-subtle,ivory)!important;color:inherit}}@media screen and (prefers-color-scheme:dark){html.skin-theme-clientpref-os .mw-parser-output .ivmbox[style*="background"]{background-color:var(--background-color-warning-subtle,ivory)!important;color:inherit}}.mw-parser-output .ivmbox-image{padding-left:1px;padding-right:0.5em;max-width:100px;flex:1 0 25px}.mw-parser-output .ivmbox-text{padding:0.5em 0}.mw-parser-output .ivmbox-text>:first-child{margin-top:0}.mw-parser-output .ivmbox-text>:last-child{margin-bottom:0}</style><div class="ivmbox" style=""> <div class="ivmbox-image" style="flex-basis: 40px"><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Scale_of_justice_2.svg" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/0e/Scale_of_justice_2.svg/40px-Scale_of_justice_2.svg.png" decoding="async" width="40" height="41" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/0e/Scale_of_justice_2.svg/60px-Scale_of_justice_2.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/0e/Scale_of_justice_2.svg/80px-Scale_of_justice_2.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="204" data-file-height="208"/></a></span></div> <div class="ivmbox-text"> <p>Hello, Permstrump. Voting in the <b><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:ACE2016" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:ACE2016">2016 Arbitration Committee elections</a></b> is open from Monday, 00:00, 21 November through Sunday, 23:59, 4 December to all unblocked users who have registered an account before Wednesday, 00:00, 28 October 2016 and have made at least 150 mainspace edits before Sunday, 00:00, 1 November 2016. </p><p>The <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:ARBCOM" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:ARBCOM">Arbitration Committee</a> is the panel of editors responsible for conducting the <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Arbitration" title="Wikipedia:Arbitration">Wikipedia arbitration process</a>. It has the authority to impose binding solutions to disputes between editors, primarily for serious conduct disputes the community has been unable to resolve. This includes the authority to impose <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:BAN" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:BAN">site bans</a>, <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:TBAN" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:TBAN">topic bans</a>, editing restrictions, and other measures needed to maintain our editing environment. The <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Arbitration/Policy" title="Wikipedia:Arbitration/Policy">arbitration policy</a> describes the Committee's roles and responsibilities in greater detail. </p><p>If you wish to participate in the 2016 election, please review <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Arbitration_Committee_Elections_December_2016/Candidates" title="Wikipedia:Arbitration Committee Elections December 2016/Candidates">the candidates' statements</a> and submit your choices on <b><a href="/wiki/Special:SecurePoll/vote/399" title="Special:SecurePoll/vote/399">the voting page</a></b>. <a href="/wiki/User:MediaWiki_message_delivery" title="User:MediaWiki message delivery">MediaWiki message delivery</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:MediaWiki_message_delivery" title="User talk:MediaWiki message delivery">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Permstrump#c-MediaWiki_message_delivery-2016-11-21T22:08:00.000Z-ArbCom_Elections_2016:_Voting_now_open!" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:08, 21 November 2016 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-MediaWiki_message_delivery-2016-11-21T22:08:00.000Z-ArbCom_Elections_2016:_Voting_now_open!"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-MediaWiki_message_delivery-2016-11-21T22:08:00.000Z-ArbCom_Elections_2016:_Voting_now_open!"></span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="sock_at_Medical_social_work" data-mw-thread-id="h-sock_at_Medical_social_work-2016-11-24T20:51:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-sock_at_Medical_social_work-2016-11-24T20:51:00.000Z"></span>sock at <a href="/wiki/Medical_social_work" title="Medical social work">Medical social work</a><span data-mw-comment-end="h-sock_at_Medical_social_work-2016-11-24T20:51:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Permstrump&action=edit&section=35" title="Edit section: sock at Medical social work"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Jim1138-2016-11-24T20:51:00.000Z-sock_at_Medical_social_work"></span>I noticed that a few months back you removed content from <span class="plainlinks"><a href="/wiki/Medical_social_work" title="Medical social work">Medical social work</a> <span class="plainlinks">(<a href="/wiki/Special:EditPage/Medical_social_work" title="Special:EditPage/Medical social work">edit</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Medical_social_work&veaction=edit">visual edit</a> | <a href="/wiki/Special:PageHistory/Medical_social_work" title="Special:PageHistory/Medical social work">history</a>)</span> <b>·</b> <a href="/wiki/Talk:Medical_social_work" title="Talk:Medical social work"><b>Article talk</b></a> <span class="plainlinks">(<a href="/wiki/Special:EditPage/Talk:Medical_social_work" title="Special:EditPage/Talk:Medical social work">edit</a> | <a href="/wiki/Special:PageHistory/Talk:Medical_social_work" title="Special:PageHistory/Talk:Medical social work">history</a>)</span> <b>·</b> <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Medical_social_work&action=watch"><b>Watch</b></a></span> which was reverted by an anon. This would appear to be an IP Hopper from Kerala, India. See <a href="/wiki/User:Jim1138/IP_Hopper_from_Kerala" title="User:Jim1138/IP Hopper from Kerala">User:Jim1138/IP Hopper from Kerala</a> Cheers <a href="/wiki/User:Jim1138" title="User:Jim1138">Jim1138</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Jim1138" title="User talk:Jim1138">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Permstrump#c-Jim1138-2016-11-24T20:51:00.000Z-sock_at_Medical_social_work" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:51, 24 November 2016 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Jim1138-2016-11-24T20:51:00.000Z-sock_at_Medical_social_work"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Jim1138-2016-11-24T20:51:00.000Z-sock_at_Medical_social_work"></span> </p> <dl><dd><a href="/wiki/User:Jim1138" title="User:Jim1138"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Permstrump-2016-11-25T09:33:00.000Z-Jim1138-2016-11-24T20:51:00.000Z"></span>Jim1138</a> Since you pointed that out, I was reviewing my old edits and noticed that the IP hopper archived<a class="external autonumber" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Medical_social_work&diff=738021573&oldid=738021452">[3]</a> my comments on the <a href="/wiki/Talk:Medical_social_work" title="Talk:Medical social work">talkpage</a> and placed an autoarchive template set to 30 days<a class="external autonumber" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Medical_social_work&diff=738021452&oldid=737987502">[4]</a>, which is absurd considering the almost nonexistent volume of posts there. If I restore it to this version<a class="external autonumber" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Medical_social_work&oldid=737027420">[5]</a>, think I'll just be inviting a war? Out of all of the articles to spend energy on, Medical social work isn't exactly at the top of my list. I have a lot of social work articles on watchlist, so it seems like I'm always stumbling across drama with the IP hopper. I haven't interjected, because it's always so hard to follow. <a href="/wiki/User:Permstrump" title="User:Permstrump"><font color="indigo">—<b>PermStrump</b></font></a><a class="mw-selflink selflink"><font color="steelblue">(<u>talk</u>)</font></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Permstrump#c-Permstrump-2016-11-25T09:33:00.000Z-Jim1138-2016-11-24T20:51:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:33, 25 November 2016 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Permstrump-2016-11-25T09:33:00.000Z-Jim1138-2016-11-24T20:51:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Permstrump-2016-11-25T09:33:00.000Z-Jim1138-2016-11-24T20:51:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Jim1138-2016-11-25T09:49:00.000Z-Permstrump-2016-11-25T09:33:00.000Z"></span>I deleted about 12k of the anon's text <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Medical_social_work&type=revision&diff=751348828&oldid=737986907">here</a>. (<a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Deny" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:Deny">wp:deny</a>) So, the conversation is rather moot. If the anon reverts me, he will probably be blocked as a sock. Feel free to do what you want with the archive - restore or leave. I set the archive age to 120 days. I doubt that the anon will bother you much given the trouble I have dealt him recently. Please let me know if you see activity. Any other articles I should add to my watch list that are not on <a href="/wiki/User:Jim1138/IP_Hopper_from_Kerala" title="User:Jim1138/IP Hopper from Kerala">User:Jim1138/IP Hopper from Kerala</a>? Cheers <a href="/wiki/User:Jim1138" title="User:Jim1138">Jim1138</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Jim1138" title="User talk:Jim1138">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Permstrump#c-Jim1138-2016-11-25T09:49:00.000Z-Permstrump-2016-11-25T09:33:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:49, 25 November 2016 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Jim1138-2016-11-25T09:49:00.000Z-Permstrump-2016-11-25T09:33:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Jim1138-2016-11-25T09:49:00.000Z-Permstrump-2016-11-25T09:33:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Permstrump-2016-11-25T21:54:00.000Z-Permstrump-2016-11-25T09:33:00.000Z"></span>BTW: feel free to revert anything on social-work related articles that an anon who geolocates to Kerala, India. Leave and ES of "rv sock per [[wp:deny]]" or something like that. If the anon is reverted by more people, I would think he would be more likely to give up? Or, maybe work harder. OCD? Thanks <a href="/wiki/User:Jim1138" title="User:Jim1138">Jim1138</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Jim1138" title="User talk:Jim1138">talk</a>) <dl><dd><a href="/wiki/User:Jim1138" title="User:Jim1138">Jim1138</a>, will do. As of now, I can't think of any articles that aren't already on your list, probably because I never realize it's the IP hopper until someone else calls it out. Each time, I think "The IP hopper <i>again</i>? On <i>this</i> article?!" Like when I removed that junk on Medical social work, the IP hopper hadn't occurred to me until your message. It's all starting to make more sense though, so I think I'll be able to pick up on it next time. <a href="/wiki/User:Permstrump" title="User:Permstrump"><font color="indigo">—<b>PermStrump</b></font></a><a class="mw-selflink selflink"><font color="steelblue">(<u>talk</u>)</font></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Permstrump#c-Permstrump-2016-11-25T21:54:00.000Z-Permstrump-2016-11-25T09:33:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:54, 25 November 2016 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Permstrump-2016-11-25T21:54:00.000Z-Permstrump-2016-11-25T09:33:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Permstrump-2016-11-25T21:54:00.000Z-Permstrump-2016-11-25T09:33:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Jim1138-2016-11-26T07:13:00.000Z-Permstrump-2016-11-25T21:54:00.000Z"></span>I forgot to mention. I don't have any objection to the content added by the Kerala sock per se. If you want to restore all or part that would be fine. Just as long as it is not added by the sock. (<a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Deny" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:Deny">wp:deny</a>) I think it does need more references. Cheers <a href="/wiki/User:Jim1138" title="User:Jim1138">Jim1138</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Jim1138" title="User talk:Jim1138">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Permstrump#c-Jim1138-2016-11-26T07:13:00.000Z-Permstrump-2016-11-25T21:54:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">07:13, 26 November 2016 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Jim1138-2016-11-26T07:13:00.000Z-Permstrump-2016-11-25T21:54:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Jim1138-2016-11-26T07:13:00.000Z-Permstrump-2016-11-25T21:54:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <p><br/> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Antisemitic_canard_/_Accusations_of_controlling_the_world_financial_system" data-mw-thread-id="h-Antisemitic_canard_/_Accusations_of_controlling_the_world_financial_system-2017-01-08T23:18:00.000Z"><span id="Antisemitic_canard_.2F_Accusations_of_controlling_the_world_financial_system"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Antisemitic_canard_/_Accusations_of_controlling_the_world_financial_system-2017-01-08T23:18:00.000Z"></span><a href="/wiki/Antisemitic_canard" class="mw-redirect" title="Antisemitic canard">Antisemitic canard</a> / Accusations of controlling the world financial system<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Antisemitic_canard_/_Accusations_of_controlling_the_world_financial_system-2017-01-08T23:18:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Permstrump&action=edit&section=36" title="Edit section: Antisemitic canard / Accusations of controlling the world financial system"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Betternews-2017-01-08T23:18:00.000Z-Antisemitic_canard_/_Accusations_of_controlling_the_world_financial_system"></span>You reinstated a text by Jewish activist Tim Wise. As you were referring to 'logic' would you be so kind to explain the logic of this text? Why don't you use the article's discussion page as there is a discussion section about this? Thank you for sharing your thoughts. <a href="/wiki/User:Betternews" title="User:Betternews">Betternews</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Betternews" title="User talk:Betternews">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Permstrump#c-Betternews-2017-01-08T23:18:00.000Z-Antisemitic_canard_/_Accusations_of_controlling_the_world_financial_system" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:18, 8 January 2017 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Betternews-2017-01-08T23:18:00.000Z-Antisemitic_canard_/_Accusations_of_controlling_the_world_financial_system"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Betternews-2017-01-08T23:18:00.000Z-Antisemitic_canard_/_Accusations_of_controlling_the_world_financial_system"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Permstrump-2017-01-09T01:27:00.000Z-Betternews-2017-01-08T23:18:00.000Z"></span>I <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Antisemitic_canard&diff=759060493&oldid=757897722">replied</a> on the talkpage. <a href="/wiki/User:Permstrump" title="User:Permstrump"><font color="indigo">—<b>PermStrump</b></font></a><a class="mw-selflink selflink"><font color="steelblue">(<u>talk</u>)</font></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Permstrump#c-Permstrump-2017-01-09T01:27:00.000Z-Betternews-2017-01-08T23:18:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">01:27, 9 January 2017 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Permstrump-2017-01-09T01:27:00.000Z-Betternews-2017-01-08T23:18:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Permstrump-2017-01-09T01:27:00.000Z-Betternews-2017-01-08T23:18:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Jargon" data-mw-thread-id="h-Jargon-2017-01-14T11:41:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Jargon-2017-01-14T11:41:00.000Z"></span>Jargon<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Jargon-2017-01-14T11:41:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Permstrump&action=edit&section=37" title="Edit section: Jargon"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Peter_Damian-2017-01-14T11:41:00.000Z-Jargon"></span>Hi. <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Sense_and_reference&diff=755537354&oldid=734651731">This</a> refers. You make two points. (1) that the references are all to a work from the 1880s. But this is because the article is precisely about that work from the 1880s. (2) That it is difficult to understand because of jargon, etc. It's very hard for me, being familiar with the subject and the sometimes technical vocabulary, to grasp which parts would be unfamiliar to a beginner reader. I agree that Wikipedia has an target audience which is not specialist and the whole point of an 'educational resource' is to be educational. But you will need to help me out here! Thanks <a href="/wiki/User:Peter_Damian" title="User:Peter Damian">Peter Damian</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Peter_Damian" title="User talk:Peter Damian">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Permstrump#c-Peter_Damian-2017-01-14T11:41:00.000Z-Jargon" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:41, 14 January 2017 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Peter_Damian-2017-01-14T11:41:00.000Z-Jargon"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Peter_Damian-2017-01-14T11:41:00.000Z-Jargon"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="DYK_for_Emotional_lability" data-mw-thread-id="h-DYK_for_Emotional_lability-2017-02-07T12:03:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-DYK_for_Emotional_lability-2017-02-07T12:03:00.000Z"></span>DYK for Emotional lability<span data-mw-comment-end="h-DYK_for_Emotional_lability-2017-02-07T12:03:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Permstrump&action=edit&section=38" title="Edit section: DYK for Emotional lability"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Coffee-2017-02-07T12:03:00.000Z-DYK_for_Emotional_lability"></span><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1256334245"><div class="ivmbox" style=""> <div class="ivmbox-image" style="flex-basis: 40px"><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Updated_DYK_query.svg" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/a/a0/Updated_DYK_query.svg/40px-Updated_DYK_query.svg.png" decoding="async" width="40" height="81" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/a/a0/Updated_DYK_query.svg/60px-Updated_DYK_query.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/a/a0/Updated_DYK_query.svg/80px-Updated_DYK_query.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="35" data-file-height="71"/></a></span></div> <div class="ivmbox-text"> <p>On <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Recent_additions#7_February_2017" title="Wikipedia:Recent additions">7 February 2017</a>, <b><a href="/wiki/Template:Did_you_know" title="Template:Did you know">Did you know</a></b> was updated with a fact from the article <i><b><a href="/wiki/Emotional_lability" title="Emotional lability">Emotional lability</a></b></i>, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was <i>... that <b><a href="/wiki/Emotional_lability" title="Emotional lability">emotional lability</a></b> can be seen in conditions such as <a href="/wiki/Personality_disorder" title="Personality disorder">personality disorder</a>, <a href="/wiki/Bipolar_disorder" title="Bipolar disorder">bipolar disorder</a>, <a href="/wiki/ADHD" class="mw-redirect" title="ADHD">ADHD</a>, and alcohol intoxication, or after a <a href="/wiki/Stroke" title="Stroke">stroke</a>?</i> The nomination discussion and review may be seen at <a href="/wiki/Template:Did_you_know_nominations/Emotional_lability" title="Template:Did you know nominations/Emotional lability">Template:Did you know nominations/Emotional lability</a>. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page <small>(<a href="/wiki/User:Rjanag/Pageview_stats" title="User:Rjanag/Pageview stats">here's how</a>, <a class="external text" href="//tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews?start=2017-01-28&end=2017-02-17&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Emotional_lability">Emotional lability</a>)</small>, and it may be added to <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Did_you_know/Statistics" title="Wikipedia:Did you know/Statistics">the statistics page</a> if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the <a href="/wiki/Template_talk:Did_you_know" title="Template talk:Did you know">Did you know talk page</a>. </p> </div> </div> <p><small style="color:#999;white-space:nowrap;text-shadow:lightgrey 0.3em 0.3em 0.15em;">— <a href="/wiki/User:Coffee" title="User:Coffee"><big style="color:#ffa439">Coffee</big></a> // <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Coffee" title="User talk:Coffee"><span style="color:#009900;">have a cup</span></a> // <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Coffee" title="Special:Contributions/Coffee"><span style="color:#4682b4;">beans</span></a> // </small> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Permstrump#c-Coffee-2017-02-07T12:03:00.000Z-DYK_for_Emotional_lability" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:03, 7 February 2017 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Coffee-2017-02-07T12:03:00.000Z-DYK_for_Emotional_lability"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Coffee-2017-02-07T12:03:00.000Z-DYK_for_Emotional_lability"></span> </p><div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Proper_attribution_of_sources_at_Common_Era" data-mw-thread-id="h-Proper_attribution_of_sources_at_Common_Era-2017-03-16T15:18:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Proper_attribution_of_sources_at_Common_Era-2017-03-16T15:18:00.000Z"></span>Proper attribution of sources at <a href="/wiki/Common_Era" title="Common Era">Common Era</a><span data-mw-comment-end="h-Proper_attribution_of_sources_at_Common_Era-2017-03-16T15:18:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Permstrump&action=edit&section=39" title="Edit section: Proper attribution of sources at Common Era"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Jc3s5h-2017-03-16T15:18:00.000Z-Proper_attribution_of_sources_at_Common_Era"></span>In <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Common_Era&type=revision&diff=770610197&oldid=770604978">this edit</a> to <a href="/wiki/Common_Era" title="Common Era">Common Era</a> you gave the edit summary " copy and pasted from the source "in the year of the Lord" the brackets are unnecessarily distracting". However, no changes were made to the citations, and I am unable to find the passage you inserted in the cited sources. The content guideline <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:WHYCITE" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:WHYCITE">WP:WHYCITE</a> states "sources are also required when quoting someone, with or without quotation marks, or closely paraphrasing a source." Please do not reinsert your change unless you comply with this content guideline. <a href="/wiki/User:Jc3s5h" title="User:Jc3s5h">Jc3s5h</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Jc3s5h" title="User talk:Jc3s5h">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Permstrump#c-Jc3s5h-2017-03-16T15:18:00.000Z-Proper_attribution_of_sources_at_Common_Era" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:18, 16 March 2017 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Jc3s5h-2017-03-16T15:18:00.000Z-Proper_attribution_of_sources_at_Common_Era"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Jc3s5h-2017-03-16T15:18:00.000Z-Proper_attribution_of_sources_at_Common_Era"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Permstrump-2017-03-17T03:21:00.000Z-Jc3s5h-2017-03-16T15:18:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:Jc3s5h" title="User:Jc3s5h">Jc3s5h</a>:</span> I responded <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Common_Era&diff=770713349&oldid=760378283">here</a> on the article's talkpage. <a href="/wiki/User:Permstrump" title="User:Permstrump"><font color="indigo">—<b>PermStrump</b></font></a><a class="mw-selflink selflink"><font color="steelblue">(<u>talk</u>)</font></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Permstrump#c-Permstrump-2017-03-17T03:21:00.000Z-Jc3s5h-2017-03-16T15:18:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">03:21, 17 March 2017 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Permstrump-2017-03-17T03:21:00.000Z-Jc3s5h-2017-03-16T15:18:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Permstrump-2017-03-17T03:21:00.000Z-Jc3s5h-2017-03-16T15:18:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Redirects" data-mw-thread-id="h-Redirects-2017-04-15T17:55:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Redirects-2017-04-15T17:55:00.000Z"></span>Redirects<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Redirects-2017-04-15T17:55:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Permstrump&action=edit&section=40" title="Edit section: Redirects"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-TheDragonFire-2017-04-15T17:55:00.000Z-Redirects"></span>Hey! Would you be able to explain why you keep creating so many redirects to <a href="/wiki/Frederick_Douglass_High_School_(Baltimore,_Maryland)" title="Frederick Douglass High School (Baltimore, Maryland)">Frederick Douglass High School (Baltimore, Maryland)</a>?. <a href="/wiki/User:TheDragonFire" title="User:TheDragonFire">TheDragonFire</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:TheDragonFire" title="User talk:TheDragonFire">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Permstrump#c-TheDragonFire-2017-04-15T17:55:00.000Z-Redirects" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:55, 15 April 2017 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-TheDragonFire-2017-04-15T17:55:00.000Z-Redirects"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-TheDragonFire-2017-04-15T17:55:00.000Z-Redirects"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Permstrump-2017-04-15T18:03:00.000Z-TheDragonFire-2017-04-15T17:55:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:TheDragonFire" title="User:TheDragonFire">TheDragonFire</a>:</span> I had trouble finding it because other schools with common names are disambiguated with just "(Baltimore)", e.g., <a href="/wiki/Western_High_School_(Baltimore)" class="mw-redirect" title="Western High School (Baltimore)">Western High School (Baltimore)</a>. At first I was just going to create the one redirect for <a href="/wiki/Frederick_Douglass_High_School_(Baltimore)" class="mw-redirect" title="Frederick Douglass High School (Baltimore)">Frederick Douglass High School (Baltimore)</a>, but then I figured I'd do a couple more while I was at it. Was that annoying? I didn't think anyone would notice. <a href="/wiki/User:Permstrump" title="User:Permstrump"><font color="indigo">—<b>PermStrump</b></font></a><a class="mw-selflink selflink"><font color="steelblue">(<u>talk</u>)</font></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Permstrump#c-Permstrump-2017-04-15T18:03:00.000Z-TheDragonFire-2017-04-15T17:55:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:03, 15 April 2017 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Permstrump-2017-04-15T18:03:00.000Z-TheDragonFire-2017-04-15T17:55:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Permstrump-2017-04-15T18:03:00.000Z-TheDragonFire-2017-04-15T17:55:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-TheDragonFire-2017-04-15T18:11:00.000Z-Permstrump-2017-04-15T18:03:00.000Z"></span>Hey! That's all good. All article creations — including redirects — go into a patrol queue, and are reviewed, so I was just ensuring that it wasn't vandalism. I don't think we need that many redirects, so I've tagged some of them for deletion, but the one from <a href="/wiki/Frederick_Douglass_High_School_(Baltimore)" class="mw-redirect" title="Frederick Douglass High School (Baltimore)">Frederick Douglass High School (Baltimore)</a> is fair. The article may actually need to moved there, but I'll leave that for someone else to do. Have a great day. <a href="/wiki/User:TheDragonFire" title="User:TheDragonFire">TheDragonFire</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:TheDragonFire" title="User talk:TheDragonFire">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Permstrump#c-TheDragonFire-2017-04-15T18:11:00.000Z-Permstrump-2017-04-15T18:03:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:11, 15 April 2017 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-TheDragonFire-2017-04-15T18:11:00.000Z-Permstrump-2017-04-15T18:03:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-TheDragonFire-2017-04-15T18:11:00.000Z-Permstrump-2017-04-15T18:03:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Permstrump-2017-04-15T18:13:00.000Z-TheDragonFire-2017-04-15T18:11:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:TheDragonFire" title="User:TheDragonFire">TheDragonFire</a>:</span> Would you mind also keeping the redirect from <a href="/wiki/Douglass_High_School_(Baltimore)" class="mw-redirect" title="Douglass High School (Baltimore)">Douglass High School (Baltimore)</a>? Locally people usually just call it "Douglass". <a href="/wiki/User:Permstrump" title="User:Permstrump"><font color="indigo">—<b>PermStrump</b></font></a><a class="mw-selflink selflink"><font color="steelblue">(<u>talk</u>)</font></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Permstrump#c-Permstrump-2017-04-15T18:13:00.000Z-TheDragonFire-2017-04-15T18:11:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:13, 15 April 2017 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Permstrump-2017-04-15T18:13:00.000Z-TheDragonFire-2017-04-15T18:11:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Permstrump-2017-04-15T18:13:00.000Z-TheDragonFire-2017-04-15T18:11:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-TheDragonFire-2017-04-15T18:17:00.000Z-Permstrump-2017-04-15T18:13:00.000Z"></span>Sure. Feel free to remove the speedy tags from any you are particularly attached to. It's just so many is unnecessary, especially one's with incorrect capitalization. <a href="/wiki/User:TheDragonFire" title="User:TheDragonFire">TheDragonFire</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:TheDragonFire" title="User talk:TheDragonFire">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Permstrump#c-TheDragonFire-2017-04-15T18:17:00.000Z-Permstrump-2017-04-15T18:13:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:17, 15 April 2017 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-TheDragonFire-2017-04-15T18:17:00.000Z-Permstrump-2017-04-15T18:13:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-TheDragonFire-2017-04-15T18:17:00.000Z-Permstrump-2017-04-15T18:13:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Permstrump-2017-04-15T18:29:00.000Z-TheDragonFire-2017-04-15T18:17:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:TheDragonFire" title="User:TheDragonFire">TheDragonFire</a>:</span> the capitalizations were overkill, but I do think the main 2 (<a href="/wiki/Frederick_Douglass_High_School_(Baltimore)" class="mw-redirect" title="Frederick Douglass High School (Baltimore)">Frederick Douglass High School (Baltimore)</a> and <a href="/wiki/Douglass_High_School_(Baltimore)" class="mw-redirect" title="Douglass High School (Baltimore)">Douglass High School (Baltimore)</a>) would come in handy. <a href="/wiki/User:Permstrump" title="User:Permstrump"><font color="indigo">—<b>PermStrump</b></font></a><a class="mw-selflink selflink"><font color="steelblue">(<u>talk</u>)</font></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Permstrump#c-Permstrump-2017-04-15T18:29:00.000Z-TheDragonFire-2017-04-15T18:17:00.000Z" 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Thank you for your contributions. ~ <a href="/wiki/User:K.e.coffman" title="User:K.e.coffman">K.e.coffman</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:K.e.coffman" title="User talk:K.e.coffman">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Permstrump#c-K.e.coffman-2017-12-21T00:51:00.000Z-Happy_Holidays" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:51, 21 December 2017 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-K.e.coffman-2017-12-21T00:51:00.000Z-Happy_Holidays"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-K.e.coffman-2017-12-21T00:51:00.000Z-Happy_Holidays"></span> </td></tr></tbody></table> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Your_signature" data-mw-thread-id="h-Your_signature-2018-02-01T09:13:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Your_signature-2018-02-01T09:13:00.000Z"></span>Your signature<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Your_signature-2018-02-01T09:13:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Permstrump&action=edit&section=45" title="Edit section: Your signature"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Anomalocaris-2018-02-01T09:13:00.000Z-Your_signature"></span>Please be aware that your signature uses deprecated <code><font></code> tags, which are causing <a href="/wiki/Special:LintErrors/obsolete-tag" title="Special:LintErrors/obsolete-tag">Obsolete HTML tags</a> lint errors. </p><p>You are encouraged to change </p> <dl><dd><code>[[User:Permstrump|<font color="indigo">—'''PermStrump'''</font>]][[User Talk:Permstrump|<font color="steelblue">(<u>talk</u>)</font>]]</code> : <a href="/wiki/User:Permstrump" title="User:Permstrump"><font color="indigo">—<b>PermStrump</b></font></a><a class="mw-selflink selflink"><font color="steelblue">(<u>talk</u>)</font></a></dd></dl> <p>to </p> <dl><dd><code>[[User:Permstrump|<span style="color: indigo">—'''PermStrump'''</span>]][[User Talk:Permstrump|<span style="color: steelblue">(<u>talk</u>)</span>]]</code> : <a href="/wiki/User:Permstrump" title="User:Permstrump"><span style="color: indigo">—<b>PermStrump</b></span></a><a class="mw-selflink selflink"><span style="color: steelblue">(<u>talk</u>)</span></a></dd></dl> <p>—<a href="/wiki/User:Anomalocaris" title="User:Anomalocaris">Anomalocaris</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Anomalocaris" title="User talk:Anomalocaris">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Permstrump#c-Anomalocaris-2018-02-01T09:13:00.000Z-Your_signature" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:13, 1 February 2018 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Anomalocaris-2018-02-01T09:13:00.000Z-Your_signature"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Anomalocaris-2018-02-01T09:13:00.000Z-Your_signature"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Category:Wikipedians_who_like_Black_Mirror" data-mw-thread-id="h-Category:Wikipedians_who_like_Black_Mirror-2018-02-02T10:47:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Category:Wikipedians_who_like_Black_Mirror-2018-02-02T10:47:00.000Z"></span><a href="/wiki/Category:Wikipedians_who_like_Black_Mirror" title="Category:Wikipedians who like Black Mirror">Category:Wikipedians who like <i>Black Mirror</i></a><span data-mw-comment-end="h-Category:Wikipedians_who_like_Black_Mirror-2018-02-02T10:47:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Permstrump&action=edit&section=46" title="Edit section: Category:Wikipedians who like Black Mirror"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-DoctorWho42-2018-02-02T10:47:00.000Z-Category:Wikipedians_who_like_Black_Mirror"></span>Hey! I saw that you edited the article <i><a href="/wiki/Black_Mirror" title="Black Mirror">Black Mirror</a></i> and thought maybe you would be interested in this <a href="/wiki/Category:Wikipedians_who_like_Black_Mirror" title="Category:Wikipedians who like Black Mirror">new user category I created</a>?-<a href="/wiki/User:DoctorWho42" title="User:DoctorWho42"><span style="background-color:#ff0000; color: #e8ff00">🐦Do☭torWho42</span></a><span style="background-color:#ff0000; color: #e8ff00"> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:DoctorWho42" title="User talk:DoctorWho42"><span style="background-color:#ff0000; color: #e8ff00">⭐</span></a>)</span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Permstrump#c-DoctorWho42-2018-02-02T10:47:00.000Z-Category:Wikipedians_who_like_Black_Mirror" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:47, 2 February 2018 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-DoctorWho42-2018-02-02T10:47:00.000Z-Category:Wikipedians_who_like_Black_Mirror"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-DoctorWho42-2018-02-02T10:47:00.000Z-Category:Wikipedians_who_like_Black_Mirror"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="ArbCom_2018_election_voter_message" data-mw-thread-id="h-ArbCom_2018_election_voter_message-2018-11-19T18:42:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-ArbCom_2018_election_voter_message-2018-11-19T18:42:00.000Z"></span>ArbCom 2018 election voter message<span data-mw-comment-end="h-ArbCom_2018_election_voter_message-2018-11-19T18:42:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Permstrump&action=edit&section=47" title="Edit section: ArbCom 2018 election voter message"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-MediaWiki_message_delivery-2018-11-19T18:42:00.000Z-ArbCom_2018_election_voter_message"></span><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1256334245"><div class="ivmbox" style=""> <div class="ivmbox-image" style="flex-basis: 40px"><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Scale_of_justice_2.svg" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/0e/Scale_of_justice_2.svg/40px-Scale_of_justice_2.svg.png" decoding="async" width="40" height="41" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/0e/Scale_of_justice_2.svg/60px-Scale_of_justice_2.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/0e/Scale_of_justice_2.svg/80px-Scale_of_justice_2.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="204" data-file-height="208"/></a></span></div> <div class="ivmbox-text"> <p>Hello, Permstrump. Voting in the <b><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:ACE2018" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:ACE2018">2018 Arbitration Committee elections</a></b> is now open until 23.59 on Sunday, 3 December. All users who registered an account before Sunday, 28 October 2018, made at least 150 mainspace edits before Thursday, 1 November 2018 and are not currently blocked are eligible to vote. Users with alternate accounts may only vote once. </p><p>The <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:ARBCOM" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:ARBCOM">Arbitration Committee</a> is the panel of editors responsible for conducting the <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Arbitration" title="Wikipedia:Arbitration">Wikipedia arbitration process</a>. It has the authority to impose binding solutions to disputes between editors, primarily for serious conduct disputes the community has been unable to resolve. 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Corey Waller of the American Society of Addiction Medicine? Or Robert Malenka of Stanford? </p><p>I urge you to divest yourself of this discussion if you earn money counselling or providing any sort of service or product for addiction because that will come out. </p><p>I'll bet good money that you are a hardened self-determinist (probably Jewish upbringing) that insists on perpetuating the model of society that rejects more attached familial and communal relationships that would support some individuals and move them away from addiction and other disorders of social disconnection. Johan Hari's book says the same thing, as does tons of other research from Europe and Canada. The US continues this most lucrative of all the matters for the psycho-babble profession. <a href="/wiki/User:Canlawtictoc" title="User:Canlawtictoc">Canlawtictoc</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Canlawtictoc" title="User talk:Canlawtictoc">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Permstrump#c-Canlawtictoc-2019-02-24T00:23:00.000Z-Bruce_Alexander,_Ph.D." class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:23, 24 February 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Canlawtictoc-2019-02-24T00:23:00.000Z-Bruce_Alexander,_Ph.D."><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Canlawtictoc-2019-02-24T00:23:00.000Z-Bruce_Alexander,_Ph.D."></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="CBT" data-mw-thread-id="h-CBT-2019-08-01T08:58:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-CBT-2019-08-01T08:58:00.000Z"></span>CBT<span data-mw-comment-end="h-CBT-2019-08-01T08:58:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Permstrump&action=edit&section=49" title="Edit section: CBT"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Notgain-2019-08-01T08:58:00.000Z-CBT"></span>Back in 2016, you made <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Cognitive_behavioral_therapy&diff=728703397&oldid=728661469&diffmode=source">this</a>. I have not seen reviews to support the claim that CBT is just as effective medication for those disorders. <a href="/wiki/User:Notgain" title="User:Notgain">Notgain</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Notgain" title="User talk:Notgain">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Permstrump#c-Notgain-2019-08-01T08:58:00.000Z-CBT" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">08:58, 1 August 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Notgain-2019-08-01T08:58:00.000Z-CBT"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Notgain-2019-08-01T08:58:00.000Z-CBT"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="ArbCom_2019_election_voter_message" data-mw-thread-id="h-ArbCom_2019_election_voter_message-2019-11-19T00:19:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-ArbCom_2019_election_voter_message-2019-11-19T00:19:00.000Z"></span>ArbCom 2019 election voter message<span data-mw-comment-end="h-ArbCom_2019_election_voter_message-2019-11-19T00:19:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Permstrump&action=edit&section=50" title="Edit section: ArbCom 2019 election voter message"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <table class="messagebox" style="border: 1px solid #AAA; background: ivory; padding: 0.5em; width: 100%;"> <tbody><tr><td style="vertical-align:middle; padding-left:1px; padding-right:0.5em;"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-MediaWiki_message_delivery-2019-11-19T00:19:00.000Z-ArbCom_2019_election_voter_message"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Scale_of_justice_2.svg" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/0e/Scale_of_justice_2.svg/40px-Scale_of_justice_2.svg.png" decoding="async" width="40" height="41" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/0e/Scale_of_justice_2.svg/60px-Scale_of_justice_2.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/0e/Scale_of_justice_2.svg/80px-Scale_of_justice_2.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="204" data-file-height="208"/></a></span></td><td>Hello! Voting in the <b><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:ACE2019" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:ACE2019">2019 Arbitration Committee elections</a></b> is now open until 23:59 on Monday, 2 December 2019. All <b><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Arbitration_Committee_Elections_December_2019#Election_timeline" title="Wikipedia:Arbitration Committee Elections December 2019">eligible users</a></b> are allowed to vote. Users with alternate accounts may only vote once. <p>The <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:ARBCOM" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:ARBCOM">Arbitration Committee</a> is the panel of editors responsible for conducting the <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Arbitration" title="Wikipedia:Arbitration">Wikipedia arbitration process</a>. It has the authority to impose binding solutions to disputes between editors, primarily for serious conduct disputes the community has been unable to resolve. This includes the authority to impose <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:BAN" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:BAN">site bans</a>, <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:TBAN" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:TBAN">topic bans</a>, editing restrictions, and other measures needed to maintain our editing environment. The <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Arbitration/Policy" title="Wikipedia:Arbitration/Policy">arbitration policy</a> describes the Committee's roles and responsibilities in greater detail. </p><p>If you wish to participate in the 2019 election, please review <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Arbitration_Committee_Elections_December_2019/Candidates" title="Wikipedia:Arbitration Committee Elections December 2019/Candidates">the candidates</a> and submit your choices on the <b><a href="/wiki/Special:SecurePoll/vote/751" title="Special:SecurePoll/vote/751">voting page</a></b>. 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