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src="https://s.tgstc.com/static/web/p.gif" data-e="3" /> <strong class="emj">ひえこ↲</strong> <span class="status_name">@icedyakko</span> </a> </span> <p class='tweet emj'>今回のガソリン放火でスプリンクラー云々言うたらだめやぞ。ガソリンにスプリンクラーは延焼拡大となるので、消火剤推奨。ビルなんてガソリンばら撒かれるなんて想定してないからな！</p> <span class='status'> <span class="intent"></span> <span> <a class="link" href="https://x.com/icedyakko/status/1151785087681253376" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">2019-07-18 18:25:38</a> </span> </span> </div> <div class='list_box type_tweet impl_profile' data-index='3' data-id='1151731365978619905'> <span> <a class="user_link" rel="noreferrer" href='https://x.com/dokkoishop' target='_blank'> <img class="lzpk " data-s="6" src="https://s.tgstc.com/static/web/p.gif" data-e="3" /> <strong class="emj">Remi</strong> <span class="status_name">@dokkoishop</span> </a> </span> <p class='tweet emj'><span class="f20 c01">京アニ、、、まじでヤバい一応専門職業なので言っとくけどガソリン火災に普通の特定防火対象物の自動火災報知設備や防排煙、消火栓、スプリンクラー設備なんてほとんど役にたたないですまず黒煙で死ぬ。気化したガソリンはもう普通の火災じゃないんです京アニが自衛隊基地だったら設備のせい</span></p> <span class='status'> <span class="intent"></span> <span> <a class="link" href="https://x.com/dokkoishop/status/1151731365978619905" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">2019-07-18 14:52:10</a> </span> </span> </div> <div class='list_box type_tweet impl_profile' data-index='4' data-id='1151786106184015873'> <span> <a class="user_link" rel="noreferrer" href='https://x.com/kohey_san' target='_blank'> <img class="lzpk " data-s="7" src="https://s.tgstc.com/static/web/p.gif" data-e="3" /> <strong class="emj">コウ兵/たぬさぎ</strong> <span class="status_name">@kohey_san</span> </a> </span> <p class='tweet emj'><a href="https://x.com/dokkoishop" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">@dokkoishop</a> FF外から失礼します。ガソリン火災が起こった際、どのような行動すれば良いか教えて欲しいと思います。</p> <span class='status'> <span class="intent"></span> <span> <a class="link" href="https://x.com/kohey_san/status/1151786106184015873" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">2019-07-18 18:29:41</a> </span> </span> </div> <div class='list_box type_tweet impl_profile' data-index='5' data-id='1151788927063166976'> <span> <a class="user_link" rel="noreferrer" href='https://x.com/dokkoishop' target='_blank'> <img class="lzpk " data-s="6" src="https://s.tgstc.com/static/web/p.gif" data-e="3" /> <strong class="emj">Remi</strong> <span class="status_name">@dokkoishop</span> </a> </span> <p class='tweet emj'><a href="https://x.com/kohey_san" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">@kohey_san</a> 通常の火災と同じで煙を吸わないガソリンの匂いがしたら、警戒してください。気化したガソリンは爆弾なので今回のケースは殺人なので火災とは言いにくいですよね</p> <span class='status'> <span class="intent"></span> <span> <a class="link" href="https://x.com/dokkoishop/status/1151788927063166976" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">2019-07-18 18:40:54</a> </span> </span> </div> <div class='list_box type_tweet impl_profile' data-index='6' data-id='1151787399187353600'> <span> <a class="user_link" rel="noreferrer" href='https://x.com/paora_ekimemo' target='_blank'> <img class="lzpk " data-s="8" src="https://s.tgstc.com/static/web/p.gif" data-e="3" /> <strong class="emj">パオラ</strong> <span class="status_name">@paora_ekimemo</span> </a> </span> <p class='tweet emj'><span class="f20 c01">火消屋の端くれとしてはこういう事件は非常に辛い。消防設備士、危険物取扱者共に免許保持しているので凄く分かるのだが、気化したガソリンが引火すれば爆燃する。そもそも通常の消火設備はガソリン撒いた火災は想定外である。</span></p> <span class='status'> <span class="intent"></span> <span> <a class="link" href="https://x.com/paora_ekimemo/status/1151787399187353600" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">2019-07-18 18:34:49</a> </span> </span> </div> <div class='list_box type_tweet impl_profile' data-index='7' data-id='1151795718950010880'> <span> <a class="user_link" rel="noreferrer" href='https://x.com/bikedokka' target='_blank'> <img class="lzpk " data-s="9" src="https://s.tgstc.com/static/web/p.gif" data-e="3" /> <strong class="emj">エブリイいじってる方&バイクでどっかいこ</strong> <span class="status_name">@bikedokka</span> </a> </span> <p class='tweet emj'><a href="https://x.com/AkatsukiUNI" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">@AkatsukiUNI</a> 危険物取扱者です。僕はガソリン40Lの爆発的な火災を視認して、消火器で消火活動に当たれる自信はありません。海外のYoutuberのガソリン20L点火動画です。ぜひ見てください。 <a href="https://t.co/8tMe2RRHHC" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">youtu.be/HKsb8rlgL2s</a></p> <span class='status'> <span class="intent"></span> <span> <a class="link" href="https://x.com/bikedokka/status/1151795718950010880" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">2019-07-18 19:07:53</a> </span> </span> <div class="list_photo_box"> <figure class='list_photo'> <img src="https://pimg.togetter.com/00990cbd62348b6df29acef1ed80b748abd19c83/68747470733a2f2f692e7974696d672e636f6d2f76692f484b736238726c674c32732f687164656661756c742e6a7067" onload="onloadImg(this);" onerror="removeImg(this);" > </figure> </div> </div> <div class='list_box type_youtube'> <div> <iframe width="500" height="319" src="//www.youtube.com/embed/HKsb8rlgL2s" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe> </div> <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HKsb8rlgL2s" target='_blank'>20L GASOLINE EXPLOSION & STUNTDOLL!! Will he survive?</a> </div> <div class='list_box type_tweet impl_profile' data-index='9' data-id='1151776363885387776'> <span> <a class="user_link" rel="noreferrer" href='https://x.com/www11bigorjpkkk' target='_blank'> <img class="lzpk " data-s="10" src="https://s.tgstc.com/static/web/p.gif" data-e="3" /> <strong class="emj">www11bigorjpkkk</strong> <span class="status_name">@www11bigorjpkkk</span> </a> </span> <p class='tweet emj'>京アニの件、対策がめっちゃ難しいやつよねえ。気が狂ってる個人による突然の凶行を防ぐ手段は「ない」としか。消火も無理で、ガソリン火災にはスプリンクラーとか無価値。よくあるABC消火器も広がった火には太刀打ちできない。ガソリン撒いて火をつけるとこうなるから。 <a href="https://t.co/VQ24M5mlyH" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">youtube.com/watch?v=9SBwRd…</a></p> <span class='status'> <span class="intent"></span> <span> <a class="link" href="https://x.com/www11bigorjpkkk/status/1151776363885387776" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">2019-07-18 17:50:58</a> </span> </span> <div class="list_photo_box"> <figure class='list_photo'> <img src="https://pimg.togetter.com/6e9ba93e76a3856683e9ba8a8489a48e158a4784/68747470733a2f2f692e7974696d672e636f6d2f76692f3953427752644c453432732f687164656661756c742e6a7067" onload="onloadImg(this);" onerror="removeImg(this);" > </figure> </div> </div> <div class='list_box type_youtube'> <div> <iframe width="500" height="319" src="//www.youtube.com/embed/9SBwRdLE42s" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe> </div> <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9SBwRdLE42s" target='_blank'>Using gasoline to light a fire, WCGW?</a> </div> <div class='list_box type_tweet impl_profile' data-index='11' data-id='1151777462050705408'> <span> <a class="user_link" rel="noreferrer" href='https://x.com/akimarusora' target='_blank'> <img class="lzpk " data-s="11" src="https://s.tgstc.com/static/web/p.gif" data-e="3" /> <strong class="emj">秋丸ソラ</strong> <span class="status_name">@akimarusora</span> </a> </span> <p class='tweet emj'>昼休みに京アニの件は見たけど、死傷者の数がすごく多いんだけど…これ以上亡くなる方が出ないことを祈るしかない…。本当にガソリン等の火災は標準的な消火設備じゃどうしようもないんだよね…ABC消火器だとしても煙吸った時点でダメだし。</p> <span class='status'> <span class="intent"></span> <span> <a class="link" href="https://x.com/akimarusora/status/1151777462050705408" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">2019-07-18 17:55:20</a> </span> </span> </div> <div class='list_box type_tweet impl_profile' data-index='12' data-id='1151780494427639813'> <span> <a class="user_link" rel="noreferrer" href='https://x.com/miko_miko_nurse' target='_blank'> <img class="lzpk " data-s="12" src="https://s.tgstc.com/static/web/p.gif" data-e="3" /> <strong class="emj">にゃお！</strong> <span class="status_name">@miko_miko_nurse</span> </a> </span> <p class='tweet emj'><a href="https://x.com/dokkoishop" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">@dokkoishop</a> <a href="https://x.com/revia_handora" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">@revia_handora</a> 青森の武富士放火殺人事件を思い出しました。新幹線放火もそうですが、液体燃料を普通に携帯できてどこでも放火ができることを前提にしなきゃならないようです。火炎瓶よりタチが悪い</p> <span class='status'> <span class="intent"></span> <span> <a class="link" href="https://x.com/miko_miko_nurse/status/1151780494427639813" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">2019-07-18 18:07:23</a> </span> </span> </div> <div class='list_box type_tweet impl_profile' data-index='13' data-id='1151784114845962242'> <span> <a class="user_link" rel="noreferrer" href='https://x.com/yu_TxRx' target='_blank'> <img class="lzpk " data-s="13" src="https://s.tgstc.com/static/web/p.gif" data-e="3" /> <strong class="emj">ゆ🍅㌠</strong> <span class="status_name">@yu_TxRx</span> </a> </span> <p class='tweet emj'>ガソリンは水で消火しちゃあかんし、ビル内で広域に撒かれて点火されたらスプリンクラーも使えんから詰むやん。</p> <span class='status'> <span class="intent"></span> <span> <a class="link" href="https://x.com/yu_TxRx/status/1151784114845962242" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">2019-07-18 18:21:46</a> </span> </span> </div> <div class='list_box type_tweet impl_profile' data-index='14' data-id='1151786595000836096'> <span> <a class="user_link" 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