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field__item"><div class="audiofield"> <div class="audiofield-player"> <audio id="audiofield-audio-player-file-59406-nbeluluvysoxklhe" preload="none" controls controlsList="nodownload" > <source src="/sites/default/files/history/media/oral-history/4770.mp3" type="audio/mpeg"> Your browser does not support the audio element. </audio> <label for="audiofield-audio-player-file-59406-nbeluluvysoxklhe">4770.mp3</label> </div> </div> <table class="audiofield-downloads"> <caption>Download files:</caption> <tr> <td class="audiofield-download-link"><a href="/sites/default/files/history/media/oral-history/4770.mp3" download="4770.mp3">4770.mp3</a></td> </tr> </table> </div> <div class="clearfix text-formatted field field--name-field-audio-excerpt-text field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field__item"><h3>Mayer:</h3> <p>…Franck was somebody who was liked by absolutely everybody. When the Nazi doctrines came in everybody said, “Franck is an exception”, even the anti-Semites. Franck of course is something entirely else. You know that Franck resigned. On the basis of the first regulations, he could have stayed. He could have stayed for several reasons, because he had been Professor before a certain date, and because he’d been in the war. But he resigned with an open letter that he was not going to be in the University with discrimination against his race. He thought at that time he would go into industry. He didn’t, he left the country. There was a furor in Gottingen. A number of people wrote an open letter against Franck. We looked at the signatures. There was no well-known name among them. They were all ones who were second in line, you know, and hoped to get on by this method. It was a shameful affair, I mean even in history, and so on, it was not the top people. It was some lower people who hoped that by being friends with the Nazis they would get somewhere. 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