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href="https://wypfpensionmattersfire.wordpress.com/2022/01/31/id-questionnaire/" title="Permalink to ID questionnaire" rel="bookmark"><time class="entry-date" datetime="2022-01-31T14:22:04+00:00">January 31, 2022</time></a></span><span class="categories-links"><a href="https://wypfpensionmattersfire.wordpress.com/category/administration/" rel="category tag">Administration</a>, <a href="https://wypfpensionmattersfire.wordpress.com/category/framework/" rel="category tag">Framework</a>, <a href="https://wypfpensionmattersfire.wordpress.com/category/id/" rel="category tag">ID</a>, <a href="https://wypfpensionmattersfire.wordpress.com/category/immediate-detriment/" rel="category tag">Immediate detriment</a></span><span class="tags-links"><a href="https://wypfpensionmattersfire.wordpress.com/tag/framework/" rel="tag">Framework</a>, <a href="https://wypfpensionmattersfire.wordpress.com/tag/id/" rel="tag">ID</a></span><span class="author vcard"><a class="url fn n" href="https://wypfpensionmattersfire.wordpress.com/author/wypfsdunc/" title="View all posts by wypfsdunc" rel="author">wypfsdunc</a></span> </div><!-- .entry-meta --> </header><!-- .entry-header --> <div class="entry-content"> <p>Thank you to all the FRA’s who’ve returned our short questionnaire regarding Immediate Detriment/Framework. We’re waiting for a few replies though so please let us have it as soon as you can. </p> <p>If you need another copy please contact <a href="mailto:stuart.duncombe@wypf.org.uk">Stuart Duncombe</a>. </p> </div><!-- .entry-content --> <footer class="entry-meta"> <div class="comments-link"> <a href="https://wypfpensionmattersfire.wordpress.com/2022/01/31/id-questionnaire/#respond"><span class="leave-reply">Leave a comment</span></a> </div><!-- .comments-link --> </footer><!-- .entry-meta --> </article><!-- #post --> <article id="post-771" class="post-771 post type-post status-publish format-standard hentry category-administration category-framework category-id category-immediate-detriment category-mccloud category-sargeant tag-id tag-immediate-detriment tag-sargeant"> <header class="entry-header"> <h1 class="entry-title"> <a href="https://wypfpensionmattersfire.wordpress.com/2021/12/01/home-office-withdraws-its-informal-guidance-on-immediate-detriment/" rel="bookmark">Home Office withdraws its informal guidance on Immediate Detriment</a> </h1> <div class="entry-meta"> <span class="date"><a href="https://wypfpensionmattersfire.wordpress.com/2021/12/01/home-office-withdraws-its-informal-guidance-on-immediate-detriment/" title="Permalink to Home Office withdraws its informal guidance on Immediate Detriment" rel="bookmark"><time class="entry-date" datetime="2021-12-01T09:08:46+00:00">December 1, 2021</time></a></span><span class="categories-links"><a href="https://wypfpensionmattersfire.wordpress.com/category/administration/" rel="category tag">Administration</a>, <a href="https://wypfpensionmattersfire.wordpress.com/category/framework/" rel="category tag">Framework</a>, <a href="https://wypfpensionmattersfire.wordpress.com/category/id/" rel="category tag">ID</a>, <a href="https://wypfpensionmattersfire.wordpress.com/category/immediate-detriment/" rel="category tag">Immediate detriment</a>, <a href="https://wypfpensionmattersfire.wordpress.com/category/mccloud/" rel="category tag">McCloud</a>, <a href="https://wypfpensionmattersfire.wordpress.com/category/sargeant/" rel="category tag">Sargeant</a></span><span class="tags-links"><a href="https://wypfpensionmattersfire.wordpress.com/tag/id/" rel="tag">ID</a>, <a href="https://wypfpensionmattersfire.wordpress.com/tag/immediate-detriment/" rel="tag">Immediate detriment</a>, <a href="https://wypfpensionmattersfire.wordpress.com/tag/sargeant/" rel="tag">Sargeant</a></span><span class="author vcard"><a class="url fn n" href="https://wypfpensionmattersfire.wordpress.com/author/wypfsdunc/" title="View all posts by wypfsdunc" rel="author">wypfsdunc</a></span> </div><!-- .entry-meta --> </header><!-- .entry-header --> <div class="entry-content"> <p>As I’m sure many of you are aware, LGAs Senior Pensions Adviser emailed key contacts on Monday to announce that the Home Office has withdrawn its informal guidance on immediate detriment, with immediate effect. The email also included the note from HM Treasury confirming this decision. This can be read below:</p> <div data-wp-interactive="core/file" class="wp-block-file"><a id="wp-block-file--media-3bd220a6-8afe-4486-b3c6-95c82a819ebb" href="https://wypfpensionmattersfire.wordpress.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/12/november-2021-mccloud-sargeant-immediate-detriment-note.pdf">November 2021 McCloud Sargeant Immediate Detriment Note</a><a href="https://wypfpensionmattersfire.wordpress.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/12/november-2021-mccloud-sargeant-immediate-detriment-note.pdf" class="wp-block-file__button" download aria-describedby="wp-block-file--media-3bd220a6-8afe-4486-b3c6-95c82a819ebb">Download</a></div> <p>A separate email from the Home Office, which gave an update on funding, was also provided (the body of which is reproduced below).</p> <p><em><strong>Subject: Pensions Update: Home Office informal and non-statutory immediate detriment guidance</strong><br><strong>Sent on behalf of Peter Spreadbury, Deputy Director, Police Workforce and Professionalism Unit<br>Withdrawal of informal and non-statutory Home Office Immediate Detriment guidance</strong></em><br><em><br>I wanted to inform you that I have today written to the Chair of the Firefighters’ Scheme Advisory Board advising that the Home Office has withdrawn our existing informal and non-statutory guidance in relation to processing certain kinds of immediate detriment case ahead of legislation.<br>Although the decision remains for scheme managers to make, the Government does not advise schemes to process any immediate detriment cases before the legislation is in place, given the risk and uncertainty.<br>I also want to take this opportunity to provide some further clarity in relation to the funding position. As the Government does not advise that immediate detriment cases should be processed in advance of the legislation coming into force, we will not be in a position to provide any additional funding for those costs which are paid outside of the pension account. These costs include payments that are not considered to be legitimate expenditure under the pension scheme regulations and any associated administration costs including any charges from your pension administrator. These will need to be funded locally by your fire and rescue authority from local budgets.<br>In relation to immediate detriment costs paid from the pension account in the course of processing pipeline cases, FRAs will need to ensure that these payments comply with the financing regulations of the pension scheme. If they are considered to be legitimate expenditure then they will be considered for payment as part of the established processes for claiming the AME top up grant.<br>As it is for individual Fire and Rescue Authorities as the Scheme Manager to make decisions in relation to immediate detriment, I would be grateful if colleagues from the LGA could bring this update and the attached note to the attention of FRAs and Chiefs.</em></p> </div><!-- .entry-content --> <footer class="entry-meta"> <div class="comments-link"> <a href="https://wypfpensionmattersfire.wordpress.com/2021/12/01/home-office-withdraws-its-informal-guidance-on-immediate-detriment/#respond"><span class="leave-reply">Leave a comment</span></a> </div><!-- .comments-link --> </footer><!-- .entry-meta --> </article><!-- #post --> <article id="post-740" class="post-740 post type-post status-publish format-standard hentry category-administration category-framework category-id tag-administration"> <header class="entry-header"> <h1 class="entry-title"> <a href="https://wypfpensionmattersfire.wordpress.com/2021/11/01/id-framework-update/" rel="bookmark">ID/Framework update</a> </h1> <div class="entry-meta"> <span class="date"><a href="https://wypfpensionmattersfire.wordpress.com/2021/11/01/id-framework-update/" title="Permalink to ID/Framework update" rel="bookmark"><time class="entry-date" datetime="2021-11-01T09:23:44+00:00">November 1, 2021</time></a></span><span class="categories-links"><a href="https://wypfpensionmattersfire.wordpress.com/category/administration/" rel="category tag">Administration</a>, <a href="https://wypfpensionmattersfire.wordpress.com/category/framework/" rel="category tag">Framework</a>, <a href="https://wypfpensionmattersfire.wordpress.com/category/id/" rel="category tag">ID</a></span><span class="tags-links"><a href="https://wypfpensionmattersfire.wordpress.com/tag/administration/" rel="tag">Administration</a></span><span class="author vcard"><a class="url fn n" href="https://wypfpensionmattersfire.wordpress.com/author/wypfsdunc/" title="View all posts by wypfsdunc" rel="author">wypfsdunc</a></span> </div><!-- .entry-meta --> </header><!-- .entry-header --> <div class="entry-content"> <p>Following on from our recent, and very positive client meeting, we wanted to let you know that we haven’t been sitting on our hands since then; as promised, we’re exploring a couple of measures that will streamline our existing immediate detriment processes and, if successful, could result in us – and you – addressing the category 2 cases in a much more acceptable timeframe.<br>So, what are we doing? As alluded to during the client meeting discussions have, and will continue to, take place with colleagues responsible for our software development, to create new ways of automating certain existing manual processes that will generate the legacy/reform retirement packs efficiently by bypassing some of the manipulation that’s required currently. In addition to this, one of our client colleagues is looking at ways to efficiently extract the necessary data from their systems and auto populate our calculation spreadsheets. If this trial proves successful, we intend to roll this out across our client base and this should be a win-win for you and WYPF!<br>What could you be doing? Other than consider whether to adopt the MoU framework, a useful starting point would be to identify your category 2 cases (members placed in FPS 2015 and who have already retired since 1 April 2015; you should now have a report from Helen highlighting these retirements to enable you to compare against your own records) and, if you haven’t already, your category 1 (upcoming) retirements.<br>Finally, stop tapering. Whilst you probably won’t have many members scheduled to transition to FPS 2015 between now and 31 March next year, ensure you have arrangements in place to keep final salary members in their existing scheme until 1 April 2022.<br>These are clearly challenging times for us all, but we’re encouraged by the steps we’ve taken since we last met. 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