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It is not one of <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Policies_and_guidelines" title="Wikipedia:Policies and guidelines">Wikipedia's policies or guidelines</a>, and may reflect varying levels of <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Consensus" title="Wikipedia:Consensus">consensus</a>.</div></div></td><td class="mbox-imageright"><style data-mw-deduplicate="TemplateStyles:r1252059228">.mw-parser-output .module-shortcutboxplain{float:right;margin:0 0 0 1em;border:1px solid var(--border-color-base,#a2a9b1);background-color:var(--background-color-base,#fff);padding:0.3em 0.6em 0.2em 0.6em;text-align:center;font-size:85%}.mw-parser-output .module-shortcutboxleft{float:left;margin:0 1em 0 0}.mw-parser-output .module-shortcutlist{display:inline-block;border-bottom:1px solid var(--border-color-base,#a2a9b1);margin-bottom:0.2em}.mw-parser-output .module-shortcutboxplain ul{font-weight:bold}.mw-parser-output .module-shortcutanchordiv{position:relative;top:-3em}.mw-parser-output li .module-shortcutanchordiv{float:right}.mw-parser-output .mbox-imageright .module-shortcutboxplain{padding:0.4em 1em 0.4em 1em;line-height:1.3;margin:0}</style><div class="module-shortcutanchordiv"><span id="WP:PINGFIX"></span><span id="H:PINGFIX"></span></div><div class="module-shortcutboxplain noprint" role="note"><div class="module-shortcutlist"><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Shortcut" title="Wikipedia:Shortcut">Shortcuts</a></div><style data-mw-deduplicate="TemplateStyles:r1126788409">.mw-parser-output .plainlist ol,.mw-parser-output .plainlist ul{line-height:inherit;list-style:none;margin:0;padding:0}.mw-parser-output .plainlist ol li,.mw-parser-output .plainlist ul li{margin-bottom:0}</style><div class="plainlist"><ul><li><span class="plainlinks"><a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:PINGFIX&redirect=no">WP:PINGFIX</a></span></li><li><span class="plainlinks"><a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=H:PINGFIX&redirect=no">H:PINGFIX</a></span></li></ul></div></div></td></tr></tbody></table> <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1238436933"><table class="plainlinks ombox ombox-notice nutshell" role="presentation"><tbody><tr><td class="mbox-image"><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/f6/Walnut.png/30px-Walnut.png" decoding="async" width="30" height="30" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/f6/Walnut.png/45px-Walnut.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/f6/Walnut.png/60px-Walnut.png 2x" data-file-width="192" data-file-height="192"/></span></span></td><td class="mbox-text"><b>This page in a nutshell:</b> Attempting to fix a failed ping in a later edit by adding your signature or fixing a botched username will <b><u>not</u></b> work. Instead, reference the user by adding <code>[[User:Example]]</code> to an edit summary, or use one of the methods described below.</td></tr></tbody></table> <p>Pinging another user through the <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Notifications" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:Notifications">notifications</a> system is done by <a href="/wiki/Help:Linking" class="mw-redirect" title="Help:Linking">linking</a> their <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:User_pages" title="Wikipedia:User pages">user page</a> when editing any talk page or page in the Wikipedia <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Namespace" title="Wikipedia:Namespace">namespace</a>, and successfully <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Signatures" title="Wikipedia:Signatures">signing your post</a>, <i>in the same saved edit</i>. </p><p>This can be done by copying and pasting the markup from the user's signature, e.g., <kbd>[[User:Name|Name]]</kbd>, or by placing various templates for this purpose, such as <kbd><span class="nowrap">{{</span><a href="/wiki/Template:U" class="mw-redirect" title="Template:U">U</a><span class="nowrap">}}</span></kbd> which links just the user's name, or, for prefixing "<small><kbd>@Username:</kbd></small>" before your post, you might use the template <kbd><span class="nowrap">{{</span><a href="/wiki/Template:Reply_to" title="Template:Reply to">Reply to</a><span class="nowrap">}}</span></kbd>, commonly placed with its template shortcuts: <kbd><span class="nowrap">{{</span><a href="/wiki/Template:Ping" class="mw-redirect" title="Template:Ping">Ping</a><span class="nowrap">}}</span></kbd> or <kbd><span class="nowrap">{{</span><a href="/wiki/Template:Yo" class="mw-redirect" title="Template:Yo">Yo</a><span class="nowrap">}}</span></kbd>. </p><p>If you forget to sign your post, fail to sign properly (e.g., you accidentally place five <a href="/wiki/Tilde" title="Tilde">tildes</a> instead of the requisite four [<kbd>~~~~</kbd>], resulting in only a timestamp), or fail to successfully link the intended pingee's user page in the same edit, they will not receive a ping. Many users try to fix this in the next or a later edit by adding the signature they forgot, fixing their botched signature, or by fixing the user name link. This does <b><u>not</u></b> work – because any change must be parsed as an addition of new lines of text, not a change to existing lines. </p><p>Therefore, to fix the problem, you will have to add a <a href="/wiki/Newline" title="Newline">new line</a>, this time successfully linking the user's user page and signing your post. There are various suggested methods to do so, depending on if the page is high-traffic or not. </p><p>If not high-traffic (i.e., there is little chance of having or causing an <a href="/wiki/Help:Edit_conflict" title="Help:Edit conflict">edit conflict</a>): edit the page → skip a line using a carriage return → add the person's linked username followed by your signature → save the page, and then immediately undo your edit, manually or by a <a href="/wiki/Help:Reverting" title="Help:Reverting">revert</a> from the page history. You might use the following back-to-back <a href="/wiki/Help:Edit_summary" title="Help:Edit summary">edit summaries</a> when doing this operation: 1) <kbd>Fixing ping</kbd>; 2) <kbd>Completing ping fix</kbd>. </p><p>Alternatively, for high-traffic pages subject to edit conflicts: copy and then paste the existing <a href="/wiki/Help:Section" title="Help:Section">section header</a> below the thread → add the person's linked username followed by your signature below the duplicated section header → save the page → likewise immediately undo your edit. In this way, an edit conflict is unlikely to occur, and when the software informs the user of your mention, it will still link to the correct section of the page because the section header you placed and then removed <i>was identical</i> to the one under which you originally posted. </p><p><span class="anchor" id="alternative"></span>Instead of repairing the failed <i>in-text</i> ping, an easy workaround, for pinging up to five editors, is to simply mention them in an edit summary while you edit the page involved (by linking to their user page, e.g., <a href="/wiki/User:Example" title="User:Example">User:Example</a>). The edit you invoke to leave such an edit summary can be used to make cosmetic fixes to the botched or missing signature or username mention that resulted in the failed ping (as noted, these repairs will <i>not</i> fix the ping) or to make some other <a href="/wiki/H:DUMMY" class="mw-redirect" title="H:DUMMY">minor change</a>. Be aware that notifications generated using this method will not link the user to the specific section of the page involved, and that you will not be notified as to whether the ping was successful or not. </p> <meta property="mw:PageProp/toc"/> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Step-by-step_instructions" data-mw-thread-id="h-Step-by-step_instructions"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Step-by-step_instructions"></span>Step-by-step instructions<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Step-by-step_instructions"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Help:Fixing_failed_pings&action=edit&section=1" title="Edit section: Step-by-step instructions"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span></div> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading3"><h3 id="Low-traffic_pages_method" data-mw-thread-id="h-Low-traffic_pages_method-Step-by-step_instructions"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Low-traffic_pages_method-Step-by-step_instructions"></span>Low-traffic pages method<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Low-traffic_pages_method-Step-by-step_instructions"></span></h3><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Help:Fixing_failed_pings&action=edit&section=2" title="Edit section: Low-traffic pages method"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span></div> <p>If you mis-signed in a thread at a 'low-traffic page' – where your further edits are unlikely to be interrupted by, or cause, an <a href="/wiki/Help:Edit_conflict" title="Help:Edit conflict">edit conflict</a> (such as an article's <a href="/wiki/Help:Talk_pages" title="Help:Talk pages">talk page</a> that is not in the midst of wide discussion by many users): </p> <ol><li>Click edit (we suggest using a <a href="/wiki/Help:Section#Section_editing" title="Help:Section">side edit section</a> link, targeting just the thread involved)</li> <li>Place your cursor at the end of the existing text and click <kbd class="nowrap button" title="This is not a clickable button; it illustrates the button one should find." style="padding:.2em .6em; border:1px solid; border-color:var(--border-color-base, #a2a9b1) var(--border-color-interactive, #72777d) var(--border-color-interactive, #72777d) var(--border-color-base, #a2a9b1); border-radius:3px; background-color: #F2F2F2; color: inherit; background-image: linear-gradient(to bottom, var(--background-color-interactive-subtle, #f8f9fa), var(--background-color-interactive, #eaecf0)); font-family:sans-serif;">return</kbd>/<kbd class="nowrap button" title="This is not a clickable button; it illustrates the button one should find." style="padding:.2em .6em; border:1px solid; border-color:var(--border-color-base, #a2a9b1) var(--border-color-interactive, #72777d) var(--border-color-interactive, #72777d) var(--border-color-base, #a2a9b1); border-radius:3px; background-color: #F2F2F2; color: inherit; background-image: linear-gradient(to bottom, var(--background-color-interactive-subtle, #f8f9fa), var(--background-color-interactive, #eaecf0)); font-family:sans-serif;">enter</kbd> (or other method to invoke a <i><a href="/wiki/Newline" title="Newline">new line</a></i>)</li> <li>Paste the "pingee's" linked username and four <a href="/wiki/Tilde" title="Tilde">tildes</a> (<kbd>~~~~</kbd>):</li> <li>Save the page <small><span style="color: gray;">(suggested edit summary: "fixing ping")</span></small></li> <li>Immediately click edit again for the section, cut what you placed in the last edit, and save (alternatively, you can <a href="/wiki/Help:Reverting" title="Help:Reverting">revert</a> your edit in the page history) <small><span style="color: gray;">(suggested edit summary: "Completing ping fix")</span></small></li></ol> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading3"><h3 id="High-traffic_pages_method" data-mw-thread-id="h-High-traffic_pages_method-Step-by-step_instructions"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-High-traffic_pages_method-Step-by-step_instructions"></span>High-traffic pages method<span data-mw-comment-end="h-High-traffic_pages_method-Step-by-step_instructions"></span></h3><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Help:Fixing_failed_pings&action=edit&section=3" title="Edit section: High-traffic pages method"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span></div> <p>If you mis-signed in a thread with the section header "How do I fix my ping?" – at a 'high-traffic page', where your further edits are likely to be interrupted by, or cause, an <a href="/wiki/Help:Edit_conflict" title="Help:Edit conflict">edit conflict</a> (such as at the <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Teahouse" title="Wikipedia:Teahouse">Teahouse</a>, a section of the <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Village_pump" title="Wikipedia:Village pump">Village pump</a>, etc.): </p> <ol><li>Click edit (we suggest using an <a href="/wiki/Help:Section#Section_editing" title="Help:Section">edit section</a> link, targeting just the thread involved)</li> <li>Copy the existing section header, and paste it below the end of the thread, followed by the "pingee's" linked username and four tildes: <dl><dd>== How do I fix my ping? ==</dd> <dd><kbd>[[User:Name|Name]] ~~~~</kbd></dd></dl></li> <li>Save the page <small><span style="color: gray;">(suggested edit summary: "fixing ping")</span></small></li> <li>Immediately click edit for the duplicate section you created, cut it entirely including the section header, and save (alternatively, you can <a href="/wiki/Help:Reverting" title="Help:Reverting">revert</a> your edit in the page history) <small><span style="color: gray;">(suggested edit summary: "Completing ping fix")</span></small></li></ol> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading3"><h3 id="Edit_summary_alternative" data-mw-thread-id="h-Edit_summary_alternative-Step-by-step_instructions"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Edit_summary_alternative-Step-by-step_instructions"></span>Edit summary alternative<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Edit_summary_alternative-Step-by-step_instructions"></span></h3><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Help:Fixing_failed_pings&action=edit&section=4" title="Edit section: Edit summary alternative"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span></div> <p>As <a href="#alternative">described above</a>, instead of fixing the in-text ping itself, an alternative method that provides some (but not all) of the same features, is to notify (up to five) users in an <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Edit_summary" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:Edit summary">edit summary</a>: </p> <ol><li>Click edit (we suggest using a <a href="/wiki/Help:Section#Section_editing" title="Help:Section">side edit section</a> link, targeting just the thread involved)</li> <li>Make an edit in the section (such as fixing your failed mention or botched signature)</li> <li>Scroll down to the edit summary field and add a link to the user’s page anywhere in it: [[User:Example]] <small><span style="color: gray;">(suggested edit summary: "Fixing ping")</span></small></li> <li>To refer the pinged user(s) to a particular section of the page, link it in the same edit summary (this is especially advisable for high volume pages): [[User:Example]]; see [[PageName#SectionName]] <small><span style="color: gray;">suggested edit summary: "Fixing ping")</span></small></li> <li>Save the page</li></ol> <p>Note that the notification produced by this type of ping will link to the <a href="/wiki/Help:Diff" title="Help:Diff">diff</a> of the edit you've made instead of the message on the talk page. </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Advising_users_of_failed_repair_attempts" data-mw-thread-id="h-Advising_users_of_failed_repair_attempts"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Advising_users_of_failed_repair_attempts"></span>Advising users of failed repair attempts<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Advising_users_of_failed_repair_attempts"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Help:Fixing_failed_pings&action=edit&section=5" title="Edit section: Advising users of failed repair attempts"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span></div> <p>Finally, if you see a post in which markup is present for you to have been pinged, but you <i>did not receive a notification</i> (and you have not turned off the default of receiving notification of "Mentions" at <a href="/wiki/Special:Preferences#mw-prefsection-echo" title="Special:Preferences">Special:Preferences#mw-prefsection-echo</a>), check the page history to see whether the user attempted to fix a botched ping by any invalid method explained above. If they did, you might point them to this page. The template <code>{{<a href="/wiki/Template:Ping_fix" title="Template:Ping fix">ping fix</a>}}</code> may be used for this purpose. </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="See_also" data-mw-thread-id="h-See_also"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-See_also"></span>See also<span data-mw-comment-end="h-See_also"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Help:Fixing_failed_pings&action=edit&section=6" title="Edit section: See also"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span></div> <ul><li><span class="nowrap">{{</span><a href="/wiki/Template:Ping_fix" title="Template:Ping fix">Ping fix</a><span class="nowrap">}}</span> – for informing users that their attempted fix of a botched ping will not work and links to this page</li> <li><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Notifications" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:Notifications">Wikipedia:Notifications</a> – Wikipedia's information page on the system; (<a href="/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Notifications" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia talk:Notifications">its talk page</a> – where feedback and bugs can be reported)</li> <li><a href="/wiki/Special:Preferences#mw-prefsection-echo" title="Special:Preferences">Special:Preferences#mw-prefsection-echo</a> – links to <i>your</i> preferences related to notifications</li> <li><a href="https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Echo" class="extiw" title="mw:Manual:Echo">mw:Manual:Echo</a> – technical details of the MediaWiki software providing the notifications facility</li> <li><a href="https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Notifications" class="extiw" title="mw:Notifications">mw:Notifications</a> – overview of the MediaWiki notifications systems</li></ul>    </div><noscript><img src="https://login.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:CentralAutoLogin/start?type=1x1" alt="" width="1" height="1" style="border: none; position: absolute;"></noscript> <div class="printfooter" data-nosnippet="">Retrieved from "<a dir="ltr" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Help:Fixing_failed_pings&oldid=1245590050">https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Help:Fixing_failed_pings&oldid=1245590050</a>"</div></div> <div id="catlinks" class="catlinks" data-mw="interface"><div id="mw-normal-catlinks" class="mw-normal-catlinks"><a href="/wiki/Help:Category" title="Help:Category">Category</a>: <ul><li><a href="/wiki/Category:Wikipedia_how-to" title="Category:Wikipedia how-to">Wikipedia how-to</a></li></ul></div><div id="mw-hidden-catlinks" class="mw-hidden-catlinks mw-hidden-cats-hidden">Hidden category: <ul><li><a href="/wiki/Category:Wikipedia_help" title="Category:Wikipedia help">Wikipedia help</a></li></ul></div></div> </div> </main> </div> <div class="mw-footer-container"> <footer id="footer" class="mw-footer" > <ul id="footer-info"> <li id="footer-info-lastmod"> This page was last edited on 13 September 2024, at 22:04<span class="anonymous-show"> (UTC)</span>.</li> <li id="footer-info-copyright">Text is available under the <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Text_of_the_Creative_Commons_Attribution-ShareAlike_4.0_International_License" title="Wikipedia:Text of the Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike 4.0 International License">Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike 4.0 License</a>; additional terms may apply. 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