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href="#A_section_with_more_technical_focus_on_the_IGBT_itself_please!"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">19</span> <span>A section with more technical focus on the IGBT itself please!</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-A_section_with_more_technical_focus_on_the_IGBT_itself_please!-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Wouldn't_an_IGBT_running_at_6kV_produce_X-rays_during_transition?" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Wouldn't_an_IGBT_running_at_6kV_produce_X-rays_during_transition?"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">20</span> <span>Wouldn't an IGBT running at 6kV produce X-rays during transition?</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Wouldn't_an_IGBT_running_at_6kV_produce_X-rays_during_transition?-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> 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Emitter and Collector have to be exchanged - otherwise the internal devices make no sense since source and collector are connected. Thus the resistor "body region" in the equivalent circuit does not make sense either. It would be the resistance of the ohmic contact shorting FET-Source and BJT-Collector. As a consequence the parasitic transistor will be mainly "off" since the voltage drop is quite low. <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/130.149.57.205" title="Special:Contributions/130.149.57.205">130.149.57.205</a> (<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:130.149.57.205&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:130.149.57.205 (page does not exist)">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Insulated-gate_bipolar_transistor#c-130.149.57.205-2010-11-11T10:51:00.000Z-Miscellaneous" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:51, 11 November 2010 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-130.149.57.205-2010-11-11T10:51:00.000Z-Miscellaneous"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2010-11-11T10:51:00.000Z","author":"130.149.57.205","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-130.149.57.205-2010-11-11T10:51:00.000Z-Miscellaneous","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-130.149.57.205-2010-11-11T10:51:00.000Z-Miscellaneous"></span> </p><p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Mtodorov_69-2006-03-10T13:59:00.000Z-Miscellaneous"></span>It is not clear how it works, and what this N+ ares under the insulator are standing for? </p><p>A better explanation is required, such as down to level of PN barriers, what opens and what shuts when the device is open and when it is closed. </p><p>Otherwise, good work -- <a href="/wiki/User:Mtodorov_69" title="User:Mtodorov 69">Mtodorov 69</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Insulated-gate_bipolar_transistor#c-Mtodorov_69-2006-03-10T13:59:00.000Z-Miscellaneous" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:59, 10 March 2006 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Mtodorov_69-2006-03-10T13:59:00.000Z-Miscellaneous"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2006-03-10T13:59:00.000Z","author":"Mtodorov 69","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Mtodorov_69-2006-03-10T13:59:00.000Z-Miscellaneous","replies":["c-CyrilB-2006-03-10T16:08:00.000Z-Mtodorov_69-2006-03-10T13:59:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Mtodorov_69-2006-03-10T13:59:00.000Z-Miscellaneous"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-CyrilB-2006-03-10T16:08:00.000Z-Mtodorov_69-2006-03-10T13:59:00.000Z"></span>I agree this page deserve more. I plan to work on it, but if someone wants to do it before, please help yourself! Meanwhile, I've added the stub label... <a href="/wiki/User:CyrilB" title="User:CyrilB">CyrilB</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Insulated-gate_bipolar_transistor#c-CyrilB-2006-03-10T16:08:00.000Z-Mtodorov_69-2006-03-10T13:59:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:08, 10 March 2006 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-CyrilB-2006-03-10T16:08:00.000Z-Mtodorov_69-2006-03-10T13:59:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2006-03-10T16:08:00.000Z","author":"CyrilB","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-CyrilB-2006-03-10T16:08:00.000Z-Mtodorov_69-2006-03-10T13:59:00.000Z","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-CyrilB-2006-03-10T16:08:00.000Z-Mtodorov_69-2006-03-10T13:59:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Mako098765-2006-06-23T08:46:00.000Z-Miscellaneous"></span>Isnt it somewhat redundant to call this page "IGBT Transistor" when the T stands for Transistor? </p> <dl><dd>Yeah. - <a href="/wiki/User:Mako098765" title="User:Mako098765">mak</a><i><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Mako098765" title="User talk:Mako098765">o</a></i> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Insulated-gate_bipolar_transistor#c-Mako098765-2006-06-23T08:46:00.000Z-Miscellaneous" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">08:46, 23 June 2006 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Mako098765-2006-06-23T08:46:00.000Z-Miscellaneous"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2006-06-23T08:46:00.000Z","author":"Mako098765","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Mako098765-2006-06-23T08:46:00.000Z-Miscellaneous","replies":[],"displayName":"mak"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Mako098765-2006-06-23T08:46:00.000Z-Miscellaneous"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Mako098765-2006-06-23T08:46:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Requested_move-2006-06-23T08:46:00.000Z","replies":["h-(Initial)_Survey-Requested_move-2006-06-23T08:46:00.000Z","h-Approval_voting-Requested_move-2006-06-23T21:00:00.000Z","h-Discussion-Requested_move-2006-06-29T00:23:00.000Z"],"text":"Requested move","linkableTitle":"Requested move"}--><h2 id="Requested_move" data-mw-thread-id="h-Requested_move-2006-06-23T08:46:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Requested_move-2006-06-23T08:46:00.000Z"></span>Requested move<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Requested_move-2006-06-23T08:46:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Talk:Insulated-gate_bipolar_transistor&action=edit&section=2" title="Edit section: Requested move"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Mako098765-2006-06-23T08:46:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Requested_move-2006-06-23T08:46:00.000Z","replies":["h-(Initial)_Survey-Requested_move-2006-06-23T08:46:00.000Z","h-Approval_voting-Requested_move-2006-06-23T21:00:00.000Z","h-Discussion-Requested_move-2006-06-29T00:23:00.000Z"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-Mako098765-2006-06-29T00:23:00.000Z-Discussion","timestamp":"2006-06-29T00:23:00.000Z"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__9__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__4__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Mako098765-2006-06-23T08:46:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Requested_move-2006-06-23T08:46:00.000Z","replies":["h-(Initial)_Survey-Requested_move-2006-06-23T08:46:00.000Z","h-Approval_voting-Requested_move-2006-06-23T21:00:00.000Z","h-Discussion-Requested_move-2006-06-29T00:23:00.000Z"],"text":"Requested move","linkableTitle":"Requested move"}--></div></div></div> <div class="boilerplate" style="background-color: #efe; margin: 2em 0 0 0; padding: 0 10px 0 10px; border: 1px dotted #aaa;"> <dl><dd><i>The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposal. <span style="color:red;"><b>Please do not modify it.</b></span> Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section. </i></dd></dl> <p>The result of the debate was <b>move to <a href="/wiki/Insulated_gate_bipolar_transistor" class="mw-redirect" title="Insulated gate bipolar transistor">Insulated gate bipolar transistor</a>.</b> </p> <hr/> <ul><li><a href="/wiki/IGBT_transistor" class="mw-redirect" title="IGBT transistor">IGBT transistor</a> → <b><a href="/wiki/IGBT" class="mw-redirect" title="IGBT">IGBT</a></b> or <b><a href="/wiki/Insulated_gate_bipolar_transistor" class="mw-redirect" title="Insulated gate bipolar transistor">Insulated gate bipolar transistor</a></b> … <i>Rationale</i>: Redundant word: "Insulated Gate Bipolar Transistor transistor". Precedents: <a href="/wiki/MOSFET" title="MOSFET">MOSFET</a>, <a href="/wiki/JFET" title="JFET">JFET</a>.</li></ul> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading3"><h3 id="(Initial)_Survey" data-mw-thread-id="h-(Initial)_Survey-Requested_move-2006-06-23T08:46:00.000Z"><span id=".28Initial.29_Survey"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-(Initial)_Survey-Requested_move-2006-06-23T08:46:00.000Z"></span>(Initial) Survey<span data-mw-comment-end="h-(Initial)_Survey-Requested_move-2006-06-23T08:46:00.000Z"></span></h3><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Talk:Insulated-gate_bipolar_transistor&action=edit&section=3" title="Edit section: (Initial) Survey"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span></div> <dl><dd><i><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Mako098765-2006-06-23T08:46:00.000Z-(Initial)_Survey"></span>Add *<b>Support</b> or *<b>Oppose</b> followed by an optional one-sentence explanation, then sign your opinion with </i>~~~~</dd></dl> <ul><li><b>Support</b>. - <a href="/wiki/User:Mako098765" title="User:Mako098765">mak</a><i><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Mako098765" title="User talk:Mako098765">o</a></i> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Insulated-gate_bipolar_transistor#c-Mako098765-2006-06-23T08:46:00.000Z-(Initial)_Survey" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">08:46, 23 June 2006 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Mako098765-2006-06-23T08:46:00.000Z-(Initial)_Survey"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2006-06-23T08:46:00.000Z","author":"Mako098765","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Mako098765-2006-06-23T08:46:00.000Z-(Initial)_Survey","replies":[],"displayName":"mak"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Mako098765-2006-06-23T08:46:00.000Z-(Initial)_Survey"></span></li> <li><b><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-CyrilB-2006-06-23T11:05:00.000Z-(Initial)_Survey"></span>Support</b> or maybe move to <i>Insulated gate bipolar transistor</i>, with a redirect from <i>IGBT</i> and <i>IGBT transistor</i> ? - <a href="/wiki/User:CyrilB" title="User:CyrilB">CyrilB</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Insulated-gate_bipolar_transistor#c-CyrilB-2006-06-23T11:05:00.000Z-(Initial)_Survey" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:05, 23 June 2006 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-CyrilB-2006-06-23T11:05:00.000Z-(Initial)_Survey"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2006-06-23T11:05:00.000Z","author":"CyrilB","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-CyrilB-2006-06-23T11:05:00.000Z-(Initial)_Survey","replies":["c-Blair_Bonnett-2006-06-25T05:08:00.000Z-CyrilB-2006-06-23T11:05:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-CyrilB-2006-06-23T11:05:00.000Z-(Initial)_Survey"></span> <ul><li><b><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Blair_Bonnett-2006-06-25T05:08:00.000Z-CyrilB-2006-06-23T11:05:00.000Z"></span>Support</b> <i>Insulated gate bipolar transistor</i> with redirects. <a href="/wiki/User:Blair_Bonnett" title="User:Blair Bonnett">Blair</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Insulated-gate_bipolar_transistor#c-Blair_Bonnett-2006-06-25T05:08:00.000Z-CyrilB-2006-06-23T11:05:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">05:08, 25 June 2006 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Blair_Bonnett-2006-06-25T05:08:00.000Z-CyrilB-2006-06-23T11:05:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2006-06-25T05:08:00.000Z","author":"Blair Bonnett","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Blair_Bonnett-2006-06-25T05:08:00.000Z-CyrilB-2006-06-23T11:05:00.000Z","replies":[],"displayName":"Blair"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Blair_Bonnett-2006-06-25T05:08:00.000Z-CyrilB-2006-06-23T11:05:00.000Z"></span></li></ul></li> <li><b><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Atlant-2006-06-23T11:20:00.000Z-(Initial)_Survey"></span>Ambivalent</b> -- Even though it's a blatant case of <a href="/wiki/RAS_syndrome" title="RAS syndrome">RAS syndrome</a>, I think the trailing "Transistor" makes it a lot easier to figure out what the article is about. Otherwise, it's alphabet soup. <a href="/wiki/User:Atlant" title="User:Atlant">Atlant</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Insulated-gate_bipolar_transistor#c-Atlant-2006-06-23T11:20:00.000Z-(Initial)_Survey" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:20, 23 June 2006 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Atlant-2006-06-23T11:20:00.000Z-(Initial)_Survey"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2006-06-23T11:20:00.000Z","author":"Atlant","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Atlant-2006-06-23T11:20:00.000Z-(Initial)_Survey","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Atlant-2006-06-23T11:20:00.000Z-(Initial)_Survey"></span></li></ul> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading3"><h3 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href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Insulated-gate_bipolar_transistor#c-Atlant-2006-06-25T22:17:00.000Z-Insulated_gate_bipolar_transistor" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:17, 25 June 2006 (UTC)</a> (If we're going to change the article name, this is what we should change it to.)<span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Atlant-2006-06-25T22:17:00.000Z-Insulated_gate_bipolar_transistor"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2006-06-25T22:17:00.000Z","author":"Atlant","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Atlant-2006-06-25T22:17:00.000Z-Insulated_gate_bipolar_transistor","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Atlant-2006-06-25T22:17:00.000Z-Insulated_gate_bipolar_transistor"></span></li></ol> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading3"><h3 id="Discussion" data-mw-thread-id="h-Discussion-Requested_move-2006-06-29T00:23:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Discussion-Requested_move-2006-06-29T00:23:00.000Z"></span>Discussion<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Discussion-Requested_move-2006-06-29T00:23:00.000Z"></span></h3><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Talk:Insulated-gate_bipolar_transistor&action=edit&section=7" title="Edit section: Discussion"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span></div> <dl><dd><i><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Mako098765-2006-06-29T00:23:00.000Z-Discussion"></span>Add any additional comments</i></dd></dl> <p>Moved. - <a href="/wiki/User:Mako098765" title="User:Mako098765">mak</a><i><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Mako098765" title="User talk:Mako098765">o</a></i> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Insulated-gate_bipolar_transistor#c-Mako098765-2006-06-29T00:23:00.000Z-Discussion" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:23, 29 June 2006 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Mako098765-2006-06-29T00:23:00.000Z-Discussion"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2006-06-29T00:23:00.000Z","author":"Mako098765","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Mako098765-2006-06-29T00:23:00.000Z-Discussion","replies":[],"displayName":"mak"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Mako098765-2006-06-29T00:23:00.000Z-Discussion"></span> </p> <dl><dd><i>The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. <span style="color:red;"><b>Please do not modify it.</b></span> Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.</i></dd></dl></div> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Suckage" data-mw-thread-id="h-Suckage"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Suckage"></span>Suckage<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Suckage"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Talk:Insulated-gate_bipolar_transistor&action=edit&section=8" title="Edit section: Suckage"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Suckage","replies":[]}}--></div> <p>This picture sucks. Too dark, no detail. Replacement needed. TCallahan (<a href="/w/index.php?title=User:12.25.62.140&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:12.25.62.140 (page does not exist)">12.25.62.140</a>) </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Wefoij-2007-09-02T21:28:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Format_Change-2007-09-02T21:28:00.000Z","replies":["c-Wefoij-2007-09-02T21:28:00.000Z-Format_Change"],"text":"Format Change","linkableTitle":"Format Change"}--><h2 id="Format_Change" data-mw-thread-id="h-Format_Change-2007-09-02T21:28:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Format_Change-2007-09-02T21:28:00.000Z"></span>Format Change<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Format_Change-2007-09-02T21:28:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Talk:Insulated-gate_bipolar_transistor&action=edit&section=9" title="Edit section: Format Change"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Wefoij-2007-09-02T21:28:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Format_Change-2007-09-02T21:28:00.000Z","replies":["c-Wefoij-2007-09-02T21:28:00.000Z-Format_Change"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-Wefoij-2007-09-02T22:11:00.000Z-Wefoij-2007-09-02T21:28:00.000Z","timestamp":"2007-09-02T22:11:00.000Z"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__2__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__1__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Wefoij-2007-09-02T21:28:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Format_Change-2007-09-02T21:28:00.000Z","replies":["c-Wefoij-2007-09-02T21:28:00.000Z-Format_Change"],"text":"Format Change","linkableTitle":"Format Change"}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Wefoij-2007-09-02T21:28:00.000Z-Format_Change"></span>The intro section needs to be hacked down and placed into several new sections below. I'm not going to tackle it until I add more content, but it needs to be done <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Wefoij&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Wefoij (page does not exist)">Wefoij</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Insulated-gate_bipolar_transistor#c-Wefoij-2007-09-02T21:28:00.000Z-Format_Change" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:28, 2 September 2007 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Wefoij-2007-09-02T21:28:00.000Z-Format_Change"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2007-09-02T21:28:00.000Z","author":"Wefoij","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Wefoij-2007-09-02T21:28:00.000Z-Format_Change","replies":["c-Wefoij-2007-09-02T22:11:00.000Z-Wefoij-2007-09-02T21:28:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Wefoij-2007-09-02T21:28:00.000Z-Format_Change"></span> </p> <dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Wefoij-2007-09-02T22:11:00.000Z-Wefoij-2007-09-02T21:28:00.000Z"></span>I just put a bunch under device structure. More needs to be done. Feel free to add / edit. I'll be back later <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Wefoij&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Wefoij (page does not exist)">Wefoij</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Insulated-gate_bipolar_transistor#c-Wefoij-2007-09-02T22:11:00.000Z-Wefoij-2007-09-02T21:28:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:11, 2 September 2007 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Wefoij-2007-09-02T22:11:00.000Z-Wefoij-2007-09-02T21:28:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2007-09-02T22:11:00.000Z","author":"Wefoij","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Wefoij-2007-09-02T22:11:00.000Z-Wefoij-2007-09-02T21:28:00.000Z","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Wefoij-2007-09-02T22:11:00.000Z-Wefoij-2007-09-02T21:28:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-79.114.75.190-2008-03-16T10:21:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-There's_an_error-2008-03-16T10:21:00.000Z","replies":["c-79.114.75.190-2008-03-16T10:21:00.000Z-There's_an_error","c-2601:3:3382:A130:CCDB:DD0D:4797:9B0F-2015-05-26T06:32:00.000Z-There's_an_error"],"text":"There's an error","linkableTitle":"There's an error"}--><h2 id="There's_an_error" data-mw-thread-id="h-There's_an_error-2008-03-16T10:21:00.000Z"><span id="There.27s_an_error"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-There's_an_error-2008-03-16T10:21:00.000Z"></span>There's an error<span data-mw-comment-end="h-There's_an_error-2008-03-16T10:21:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Talk:Insulated-gate_bipolar_transistor&action=edit&section=10" title="Edit section: There's an error"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-79.114.75.190-2008-03-16T10:21:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-There's_an_error-2008-03-16T10:21:00.000Z","replies":["c-79.114.75.190-2008-03-16T10:21:00.000Z-There's_an_error","c-2601:3:3382:A130:CCDB:DD0D:4797:9B0F-2015-05-26T06:32:00.000Z-There's_an_error"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-2601:3:3382:A130:CCDB:DD0D:4797:9B0F-2015-05-26T06:32:00.000Z-There's_an_error","timestamp":"2015-05-26T06:32:00.000Z"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__2__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__2__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-79.114.75.190-2008-03-16T10:21:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-There's_an_error-2008-03-16T10:21:00.000Z","replies":["c-79.114.75.190-2008-03-16T10:21:00.000Z-There's_an_error","c-2601:3:3382:A130:CCDB:DD0D:4797:9B0F-2015-05-26T06:32:00.000Z-There's_an_error"],"text":"There's an error","linkableTitle":"There's an error"}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-79.114.75.190-2008-03-16T10:21:00.000Z-There's_an_error"></span>There's an error in the last cross section picture. At the symbol of the PNP transistor, you should put the arrow at the emitter. <small>—Preceding <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Signatures" title="Wikipedia:Signatures">unsigned</a> comment added by <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/79.114.75.190" title="Special:Contributions/79.114.75.190">79.114.75.190</a> (<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:79.114.75.190&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:79.114.75.190 (page does not exist)">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Insulated-gate_bipolar_transistor#c-79.114.75.190-2008-03-16T10:21:00.000Z-There's_an_error" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:21, 16 March 2008 (UTC)</a></small><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-79.114.75.190-2008-03-16T10:21:00.000Z-There's_an_error"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2008-03-16T10:21:00.000Z","author":"79.114.75.190","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-79.114.75.190-2008-03-16T10:21:00.000Z-There's_an_error","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-79.114.75.190-2008-03-16T10:21:00.000Z-There's_an_error"></span> </p><p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-2601:3:3382:A130:CCDB:DD0D:4797:9B0F-2015-05-26T06:32:00.000Z-There's_an_error"></span>...anyone? <small class="autosigned">— Preceding <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Signatures" title="Wikipedia:Signatures">unsigned</a> comment added by <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/2601:3:3382:A130:CCDB:DD0D:4797:9B0F" title="Special:Contributions/2601:3:3382:A130:CCDB:DD0D:4797:9B0F">2601:3:3382:A130:CCDB:DD0D:4797:9B0F</a> (<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:2601:3:3382:A130:CCDB:DD0D:4797:9B0F&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:2601:3:3382:A130:CCDB:DD0D:4797:9B0F (page does not exist)">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Insulated-gate_bipolar_transistor#c-2601:3:3382:A130:CCDB:DD0D:4797:9B0F-2015-05-26T06:32:00.000Z-There's_an_error" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">06:32, 26 May 2015 (UTC)</a></small><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-2601:3:3382:A130:CCDB:DD0D:4797:9B0F-2015-05-26T06:32:00.000Z-There's_an_error"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-05-26T06:32:00.000Z","author":"2601:3:3382:A130:CCDB:DD0D:4797:9B0F","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-2601:3:3382:A130:CCDB:DD0D:4797:9B0F-2015-05-26T06:32:00.000Z-There's_an_error","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-2601:3:3382:A130:CCDB:DD0D:4797:9B0F-2015-05-26T06:32:00.000Z-There's_an_error"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-201.171.178.253-2011-09-14T00:52:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Comparison_to_mosfets-2011-09-14T00:52:00.000Z","replies":["c-201.171.178.253-2011-09-14T00:52:00.000Z-Comparison_to_mosfets"],"text":"Comparison to mosfets","linkableTitle":"Comparison to mosfets"}--><h2 id="Comparison_to_mosfets" data-mw-thread-id="h-Comparison_to_mosfets-2011-09-14T00:52:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Comparison_to_mosfets-2011-09-14T00:52:00.000Z"></span>Comparison to mosfets<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Comparison_to_mosfets-2011-09-14T00:52:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Talk:Insulated-gate_bipolar_transistor&action=edit&section=11" title="Edit section: Comparison to mosfets"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-201.171.178.253-2011-09-14T00:52:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Comparison_to_mosfets-2011-09-14T00:52:00.000Z","replies":["c-201.171.178.253-2011-09-14T00:52:00.000Z-Comparison_to_mosfets"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-201.171.178.253-2011-09-14T00:52:00.000Z-Comparison_to_mosfets","timestamp":"2011-09-14T00:52:00.000Z"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__1__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__1__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-201.171.178.253-2011-09-14T00:52:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Comparison_to_mosfets-2011-09-14T00:52:00.000Z","replies":["c-201.171.178.253-2011-09-14T00:52:00.000Z-Comparison_to_mosfets"],"text":"Comparison to mosfets","linkableTitle":"Comparison to mosfets"}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-201.171.178.253-2011-09-14T00:52:00.000Z-Comparison_to_mosfets"></span>i think those both paragraphs are contradictory one to other, u should use only one, i know some igbts require an external diode, but that should be said in the same paragraph </p><p>"The additional PN junction blocks reverse current flow. This means that unlike a MOSFET, IGBTs cannot conduct in the reverse direction. In bridge circuits where reverse current flow is needed an additional diode (called a freewheeling diode) is placed in parallel with the IGBT to conduct current in the opposite direction. The penalty isn't as severe as first assumed though, because at the higher voltages where IGBT usage dominates, discrete diodes are of significantly higher performance than the body diode of a MOSFET." "The reverse bias rating of the N- drift region to collector P+ diode is usually only of tens of volts, so if the circuit application applies a reverse voltage to the IGBT, an additional series diode must be used." <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">— Preceding <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Signatures" title="Wikipedia:Signatures">unsigned</a> comment added by <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/201.171.178.253" title="Special:Contributions/201.171.178.253">201.171.178.253</a> (<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:201.171.178.253&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:201.171.178.253 (page does not exist)">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Insulated-gate_bipolar_transistor#c-201.171.178.253-2011-09-14T00:52:00.000Z-Comparison_to_mosfets" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:52, 14 September 2011 (UTC)</a></span><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" 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class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Dicklyon-2008-03-27T03:55:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Rewriting_history_per_Nakagawa-2008-03-27T03:55:00.000Z","replies":["c-Dicklyon-2008-03-27T03:55:00.000Z-Rewriting_history_per_Nakagawa","c-Ossilator-2018-11-11T17:02:00.000Z-Rewriting_history_per_Nakagawa"],"text":"Rewriting history per Nakagawa","linkableTitle":"Rewriting history per Nakagawa"}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Dicklyon-2008-03-27T03:55:00.000Z-Rewriting_history_per_Nakagawa"></span>The raft of recent edits by <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:60.62.110.241&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:60.62.110.241 (page does not exist)">60.62.110.241</a> <span class="plainlinks">(<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:60.62.110.241&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:60.62.110.241 (page does not exist)">talk</a> <b>·</b> <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/60.62.110.241" title="Special:Contributions/60.62.110.241">contribs</a> <b>·</b> <a href="/wiki/Special:DeletedContributions/60.62.110.241" title="Special:DeletedContributions/60.62.110.241">deleted contribs</a> <b>·</b> <a href="/wiki/Special:Log/60.62.110.241" title="Special:Log/60.62.110.241">logs</a> <b>·</b> <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special%3AAbuseLog&wpSearchUser=60.62.110.241">filter log</a> <b>·</b> <a href="/wiki/Special:Block/60.62.110.241" title="Special:Block/60.62.110.241">block user</a> <b>·</b> <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special%3ALog%2Fblock&page=User%3A60.62.110.241">block log</a>)</span> and <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Nca01634&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Nca01634 (page does not exist)">Nca01634</a> <span class="plainlinks">(<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Nca01634" title="User talk:Nca01634">talk</a> <b>·</b> <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Nca01634" title="Special:Contributions/Nca01634">contribs</a> <b>·</b> <a href="/wiki/Special:DeletedContributions/Nca01634" title="Special:DeletedContributions/Nca01634">deleted contribs</a> <b>·</b> <a href="/wiki/Special:Log/Nca01634" title="Special:Log/Nca01634">logs</a> <b>·</b> <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special%3AAbuseLog&wpSearchUser=Nca01634">filter log</a> <b>·</b> <a href="/wiki/Special:Block/Nca01634" title="Special:Block/Nca01634">block user</a> <b>·</b> <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special%3ALog%2Fblock&page=User%3ANca01634">block log</a>)</span> (evidently both the same <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:SPA" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:SPA">WP:SPA</a> editor) are all about better representing the contributions of Nakagawa to the IGBT development. I have no idea how accurate these are, but it's pretty clear there's an agenda here, and quite possibly <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:COI" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:COI">WP:COI</a>, so I ask this editor to please let us know where he's coming from. We previously had <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Dalok1&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Dalok1 (page does not exist)">Dalok1</a> <span class="plainlinks">(<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Dalok1" title="User talk:Dalok1">talk</a> <b>·</b> <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Dalok1" title="Special:Contributions/Dalok1">contribs</a> <b>·</b> <a href="/wiki/Special:DeletedContributions/Dalok1" title="Special:DeletedContributions/Dalok1">deleted contribs</a> <b>·</b> <a href="/wiki/Special:Log/Dalok1" title="Special:Log/Dalok1">logs</a> <b>·</b> <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special%3AAbuseLog&wpSearchUser=Dalok1">filter log</a> <b>·</b> <a href="/wiki/Special:Block/Dalok1" title="Special:Block/Dalok1">block user</a> <b>·</b> <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special%3ALog%2Fblock&page=User%3ADalok1">block log</a>)</span> with a strong Baliga slant, so maybe this will even it out some; more likely, it goes too far. <a href="/wiki/User:Dicklyon" title="User:Dicklyon">Dicklyon</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Dicklyon" title="User talk:Dicklyon">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Insulated-gate_bipolar_transistor#c-Dicklyon-2008-03-27T03:55:00.000Z-Rewriting_history_per_Nakagawa" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">03:55, 27 March 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Dicklyon-2008-03-27T03:55:00.000Z-Rewriting_history_per_Nakagawa"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2008-03-27T03:55:00.000Z","author":"Dicklyon","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Dicklyon-2008-03-27T03:55:00.000Z-Rewriting_history_per_Nakagawa","replies":["c-Nca01634-2008-03-28T11:33:00.000Z-Dicklyon-2008-03-27T03:55:00.000Z","c-Nca01634-2008-03-28T11:46:00.000Z-Dicklyon-2008-03-27T03:55:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Dicklyon-2008-03-27T03:55:00.000Z-Rewriting_history_per_Nakagawa"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Nca01634-2008-03-28T11:33:00.000Z-Dicklyon-2008-03-27T03:55:00.000Z"></span>Answer from Nca01634:</dd> <dd>We are now trying to write a book about IGBT. Through our internal discussions and surveys about the IGBT history, we found the wikipedia descriptions on IGBT are not correctly reflecting the facts. So I simply tried to correct it. I edited the IGBT article based on the facts. If possible, I'd like to make another modification. We found one Japanese patent (Shouwa47-21739 filed in 1968 by Yamagami) disclosing IGBT structure earlier than the patent by Becke. These are just facts. No one can deny the facts. <small>—Preceding <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Signatures" title="Wikipedia:Signatures">unsigned</a> comment added by <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Nca01634&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Nca01634 (page does not exist)">Nca01634</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Nca01634" title="User talk:Nca01634">talk</a> • <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Nca01634" title="Special:Contributions/Nca01634">contribs</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Insulated-gate_bipolar_transistor#c-Nca01634-2008-03-28T11:33:00.000Z-Dicklyon-2008-03-27T03:55:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:33, 28 March 2008 (UTC)</a><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Nca01634-2008-03-28T11:33:00.000Z-Dicklyon-2008-03-27T03:55:00.000Z"></span></small><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Nca01634-2008-03-28T11:33:00.000Z-Dicklyon-2008-03-27T03:55:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2008-03-28T11:33:00.000Z","author":"Nca01634","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Nca01634-2008-03-28T11:33:00.000Z-Dicklyon-2008-03-27T03:55:00.000Z","replies":[]}}--></span></dd></dl> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Nca01634-2008-03-28T11:46:00.000Z-Dicklyon-2008-03-27T03:55:00.000Z"></span>Sorry. I'm quite beginner here. I do not know how to behave here.... from Nca01634. <small>—Preceding <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Signatures" title="Wikipedia:Signatures">unsigned</a> comment added by <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Nca01634&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Nca01634 (page does not exist)">Nca01634</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Nca01634" title="User talk:Nca01634">talk</a> • <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Nca01634" title="Special:Contributions/Nca01634">contribs</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Insulated-gate_bipolar_transistor#c-Nca01634-2008-03-28T11:46:00.000Z-Dicklyon-2008-03-27T03:55:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:46, 28 March 2008 (UTC)</a><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Nca01634-2008-03-28T11:46:00.000Z-Dicklyon-2008-03-27T03:55:00.000Z"></span></small><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Nca01634-2008-03-28T11:46:00.000Z-Dicklyon-2008-03-27T03:55:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2008-03-28T11:46:00.000Z","author":"Nca01634","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Nca01634-2008-03-28T11:46:00.000Z-Dicklyon-2008-03-27T03:55:00.000Z","replies":["c-Dicklyon-2008-03-28T18:48:00.000Z-Nca01634-2008-03-28T11:46:00.000Z"]}}--></span></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Dicklyon-2008-03-28T18:48:00.000Z-Nca01634-2008-03-28T11:46:00.000Z"></span>Anyone can easily deny the facts when they are not well referenced. Your improvements are appreciated, but you need to be careful about biasing the history too much one way, or adding your own opinions of relative importance. For example, you interpretation "the patent provided only the concept of IGBT and did not provide any concrete means to realize actual devices" needs a source, or needs to be removed. Similarly "it was found that the products from GE still suffered from the latch-up of the parasitic thyristor." You sound very partisan in these edits, trying to reduce credit to one set of inventors and add volumes on another. Please try to keep a more balanced perspective, supported by sources; facts are great, but your interpretations need to be omitted, or at least moderate and balanced. Also, tell us more about your background, affiliation, and the book you are writing, if you want us to understand where you are coming from. If you work with Nakagawa or his organization, we should know that, so that we can provide the balance against your viewpoint. You can use the "history" button to get back to your most recent version and make improvements from there. <a href="/wiki/User:Dicklyon" title="User:Dicklyon">Dicklyon</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Dicklyon" title="User talk:Dicklyon">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Insulated-gate_bipolar_transistor#c-Dicklyon-2008-03-28T18:48:00.000Z-Nca01634-2008-03-28T11:46:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:48, 28 March 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Dicklyon-2008-03-28T18:48:00.000Z-Nca01634-2008-03-28T11:46:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2008-03-28T18:48:00.000Z","author":"Dicklyon","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Dicklyon-2008-03-28T18:48:00.000Z-Nca01634-2008-03-28T11:46:00.000Z","replies":["c-Nca01634-2008-03-29T00:28:00.000Z-Dicklyon-2008-03-28T18:48:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Dicklyon-2008-03-28T18:48:00.000Z-Nca01634-2008-03-28T11:46:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Nca01634-2008-03-29T00:28:00.000Z-Dicklyon-2008-03-28T18:48:00.000Z"></span>I understand and agree with your opinion. However, as far as I know, at least three independent Japanese companies tested GE's IGBTs around 1984 and found they were easily destroyed by the latch-up of the parasitic thyristor. This is also the facts. Yes, I need good reference for the facts. I have only three testifiers but do not have a good reference. Regarding the Becke's patent, it substantially claims the non-latch-up opearation for the entire device operation condition in the first claim: "no thyristor action occurs under any device operating conditions." It does not provide any concrete device structures to achieve this (probably, this is my opinion.)</dd> <dd>I have to add two important references about IGBTs. These are Yamagami's patent filed in 1968(can be found by using the data base <a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="http://www4.ipdl.inpit.go.jp/Tokujitu/tjsogodben.ipdl?N0000=115">http://www4.ipdl.inpit.go.jp/Tokujitu/tjsogodben.ipdl?N0000=115</a> by inputting "Kind code" B, "Number" S47-21739) and and Prof. Plummer's patent Re33209, which is reissue of US patent 4199774 filed in 1978. These are probably earlier than Baliga's patent filing and Becke's patent, but still controversial. The descriptions regarding Prof. Baliga are the facts and I did not make any changes.</dd> <dd>Thank you for your precious comments. I'm working for Toshiba and probably no one could add these comments if I did not.<a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Nca01634&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Nca01634 (page does not exist)">Nca01634</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Nca01634" title="User talk:Nca01634">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Insulated-gate_bipolar_transistor#c-Nca01634-2008-03-29T00:28:00.000Z-Dicklyon-2008-03-28T18:48:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:28, 29 March 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Nca01634-2008-03-29T00:28:00.000Z-Dicklyon-2008-03-28T18:48:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2008-03-29T00:28:00.000Z","author":"Nca01634","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Nca01634-2008-03-29T00:28:00.000Z-Dicklyon-2008-03-28T18:48:00.000Z","replies":["c-Dicklyon-2008-03-29T00:53:00.000Z-Nca01634-2008-03-29T00:28:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Nca01634-2008-03-29T00:28:00.000Z-Dicklyon-2008-03-28T18:48:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Dicklyon-2008-03-29T00:53:00.000Z-Nca01634-2008-03-29T00:28:00.000Z"></span>Thanks for letting us know. I really do appreciate your knowledge, contacts, insights, and contributions to this history. But at the same time, we do need to restrict it to what is verifiable. Wikipedia is not the place for a first publication of personal recollections; of course, if you can get these guys to publish their version of the history, then we can rely on and cite that. <a href="/wiki/User:Dicklyon" title="User:Dicklyon">Dicklyon</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Dicklyon" title="User talk:Dicklyon">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Insulated-gate_bipolar_transistor#c-Dicklyon-2008-03-29T00:53:00.000Z-Nca01634-2008-03-29T00:28:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:53, 29 March 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Dicklyon-2008-03-29T00:53:00.000Z-Nca01634-2008-03-29T00:28:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2008-03-29T00:53:00.000Z","author":"Dicklyon","type":"comment","level":5,"id":"c-Dicklyon-2008-03-29T00:53:00.000Z-Nca01634-2008-03-29T00:28:00.000Z","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Dicklyon-2008-03-29T00:53:00.000Z-Nca01634-2008-03-29T00:28:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Ossilator-2018-11-11T17:02:00.000Z-Rewriting_history_per_Nakagawa"></span>Regardless of how much credit each inventor deserves, the current History section is extremely redundantly written, with some points restated at least three times. Chronology and structure are direly lacking. <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Ossilator&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Ossilator (page does not exist)">Ossilator</a> (<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Ossilator&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:Ossilator (page does not exist)">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Insulated-gate_bipolar_transistor#c-Ossilator-2018-11-11T17:02:00.000Z-Rewriting_history_per_Nakagawa" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:02, 11 November 2018 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Ossilator-2018-11-11T17:02:00.000Z-Rewriting_history_per_Nakagawa"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2018-11-11T17:02:00.000Z","author":"Ossilator","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Ossilator-2018-11-11T17:02:00.000Z-Rewriting_history_per_Nakagawa","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Ossilator-2018-11-11T17:02:00.000Z-Rewriting_history_per_Nakagawa"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Nca01634-2008-03-29T11:27:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-It_is_controversial_who_the_real_inventor_of_IGBT_is!!!-2008-03-29T11:27:00.000Z","replies":["c-Nca01634-2008-03-29T11:27:00.000Z-It_is_controversial_who_the_real_inventor_of_IGBT_is!!!","c-Nca01634-2008-03-29T12:11:00.000Z-It_is_controversial_who_the_real_inventor_of_IGBT_is!!!"],"text":"It is controversial who the real inventor of IGBT is!!!","linkableTitle":"It is controversial who the real inventor of IGBT is!!!"}--><h2 id="It_is_controversial_who_the_real_inventor_of_IGBT_is!!!" data-mw-thread-id="h-It_is_controversial_who_the_real_inventor_of_IGBT_is!!!-2008-03-29T11:27:00.000Z"><span id="It_is_controversial_who_the_real_inventor_of_IGBT_is.21.21.21"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-It_is_controversial_who_the_real_inventor_of_IGBT_is!!!-2008-03-29T11:27:00.000Z"></span>It is controversial who the real inventor of IGBT is!!!<span data-mw-comment-end="h-It_is_controversial_who_the_real_inventor_of_IGBT_is!!!-2008-03-29T11:27:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Talk:Insulated-gate_bipolar_transistor&action=edit&section=13" title="Edit section: It is controversial who the real inventor of IGBT is!!!"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Nca01634-2008-03-29T11:27:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-It_is_controversial_who_the_real_inventor_of_IGBT_is!!!-2008-03-29T11:27:00.000Z","replies":["c-Nca01634-2008-03-29T11:27:00.000Z-It_is_controversial_who_the_real_inventor_of_IGBT_is!!!","c-Nca01634-2008-03-29T12:11:00.000Z-It_is_controversial_who_the_real_inventor_of_IGBT_is!!!"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-Dicklyon-2008-03-29T16:42:00.000Z-Nca01634-2008-03-29T12:11:00.000Z","timestamp":"2008-03-29T16:42:00.000Z"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__3__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__2__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Nca01634-2008-03-29T11:27:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-It_is_controversial_who_the_real_inventor_of_IGBT_is!!!-2008-03-29T11:27:00.000Z","replies":["c-Nca01634-2008-03-29T11:27:00.000Z-It_is_controversial_who_the_real_inventor_of_IGBT_is!!!","c-Nca01634-2008-03-29T12:11:00.000Z-It_is_controversial_who_the_real_inventor_of_IGBT_is!!!"],"text":"It is controversial who the real inventor of IGBT is!!!","linkableTitle":"It is controversial who the real inventor of IGBT is!!!"}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Nca01634-2008-03-29T11:27:00.000Z-It_is_controversial_who_the_real_inventor_of_IGBT_is!!!"></span>It is indeed unknown who the real inventor of IGBTs is. I left the text as it is where I cannot confirm if it is true or not.<a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Nca01634&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Nca01634 (page does not exist)">Nca01634</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Nca01634" title="User talk:Nca01634">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Insulated-gate_bipolar_transistor#c-Nca01634-2008-03-29T11:27:00.000Z-It_is_controversial_who_the_real_inventor_of_IGBT_is!!!" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:27, 29 March 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Nca01634-2008-03-29T11:27:00.000Z-It_is_controversial_who_the_real_inventor_of_IGBT_is!!!"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2008-03-29T11:27:00.000Z","author":"Nca01634","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Nca01634-2008-03-29T11:27:00.000Z-It_is_controversial_who_the_real_inventor_of_IGBT_is!!!","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Nca01634-2008-03-29T11:27:00.000Z-It_is_controversial_who_the_real_inventor_of_IGBT_is!!!"></span> </p><p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Nca01634-2008-03-29T12:11:00.000Z-It_is_controversial_who_the_real_inventor_of_IGBT_is!!!"></span>Becke and Wheatley proposed the IGBT operation of a four layer device for the entire device operation range in 1980. Baliga and Plummer found IGBT mode operation in a thyristor(SCR) before 1980. However, the device operated in the IGBT mode only for a lower current level, and in the thyristor mode for a larger current level. Yamagami proposed, in 1968, a monolithic vertical four layer device where the pnp transistor is controlled by the n-channel MOSFET, which is the same structure as IGBT. He did not discuss the latch-up of the parasitic thyristor.<a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Nca01634&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Nca01634 (page does not exist)">Nca01634</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Nca01634" title="User talk:Nca01634">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Insulated-gate_bipolar_transistor#c-Nca01634-2008-03-29T12:11:00.000Z-It_is_controversial_who_the_real_inventor_of_IGBT_is!!!" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:11, 29 March 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Nca01634-2008-03-29T12:11:00.000Z-It_is_controversial_who_the_real_inventor_of_IGBT_is!!!"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2008-03-29T12:11:00.000Z","author":"Nca01634","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Nca01634-2008-03-29T12:11:00.000Z-It_is_controversial_who_the_real_inventor_of_IGBT_is!!!","replies":["c-Dicklyon-2008-03-29T16:42:00.000Z-Nca01634-2008-03-29T12:11:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Nca01634-2008-03-29T12:11:00.000Z-It_is_controversial_who_the_real_inventor_of_IGBT_is!!!"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Dicklyon-2008-03-29T16:42:00.000Z-Nca01634-2008-03-29T12:11:00.000Z"></span>So put all that into the article, with sources. What we want to avoid is including statements like "it is controversial" unless we can find a reliable source that discusses such a controversy. And if inventorship or priority is unclear, we should avoid making any claims about inventorship or priority. Just listing who did what when, with sources, is the way to keep the viewpoint neutral. There's no need to presume a concept such as "real inventor" or to make up a controversy if that's not what's out there. Like most technologies, it has evolved with advances from lots of people. <a href="/wiki/User:Dicklyon" title="User:Dicklyon">Dicklyon</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Dicklyon" title="User talk:Dicklyon">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Insulated-gate_bipolar_transistor#c-Dicklyon-2008-03-29T16:42:00.000Z-Nca01634-2008-03-29T12:11:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:42, 29 March 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Dicklyon-2008-03-29T16:42:00.000Z-Nca01634-2008-03-29T12:11:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2008-03-29T16:42:00.000Z","author":"Dicklyon","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Dicklyon-2008-03-29T16:42:00.000Z-Nca01634-2008-03-29T12:11:00.000Z","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Dicklyon-2008-03-29T16:42:00.000Z-Nca01634-2008-03-29T12:11:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Mbanak-2008-06-17T16:27:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Just_wanted_to_fix_the_Name_of_one_of_the_founding_inventors.-2008-06-17T16:27:00.000Z","replies":["c-Mbanak-2008-06-17T16:27:00.000Z-Just_wanted_to_fix_the_Name_of_one_of_the_founding_inventors."],"text":"Just wanted to fix the Name of one of the founding inventors.","linkableTitle":"Just wanted to fix the Name of one of the founding inventors."}--><h2 id="Just_wanted_to_fix_the_Name_of_one_of_the_founding_inventors." data-mw-thread-id="h-Just_wanted_to_fix_the_Name_of_one_of_the_founding_inventors.-2008-06-17T16:27:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Just_wanted_to_fix_the_Name_of_one_of_the_founding_inventors.-2008-06-17T16:27:00.000Z"></span>Just wanted to fix the Name of one of the founding inventors.<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Just_wanted_to_fix_the_Name_of_one_of_the_founding_inventors.-2008-06-17T16:27:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Talk:Insulated-gate_bipolar_transistor&action=edit&section=14" title="Edit section: Just wanted to fix the Name of one of the founding inventors."><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Mbanak-2008-06-17T16:27:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Just_wanted_to_fix_the_Name_of_one_of_the_founding_inventors.-2008-06-17T16:27:00.000Z","replies":["c-Mbanak-2008-06-17T16:27:00.000Z-Just_wanted_to_fix_the_Name_of_one_of_the_founding_inventors."]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-Mbanak-2008-06-17T16:27:00.000Z-Just_wanted_to_fix_the_Name_of_one_of_the_founding_inventors.","timestamp":"2008-06-17T16:27:00.000Z"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__1__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__1__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Mbanak-2008-06-17T16:27:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Just_wanted_to_fix_the_Name_of_one_of_the_founding_inventors.-2008-06-17T16:27:00.000Z","replies":["c-Mbanak-2008-06-17T16:27:00.000Z-Just_wanted_to_fix_the_Name_of_one_of_the_founding_inventors."],"text":"Just wanted to fix the Name of one of the founding inventors.","linkableTitle":"Just wanted to fix the Name of one of the founding inventors."}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Mbanak-2008-06-17T16:27:00.000Z-Just_wanted_to_fix_the_Name_of_one_of_the_founding_inventors."></span>June 17, 2008 MBanak </p><p>I Corrected the Name "Becke", which was listed as "Beck", in several places - I knew the late Hans Becke in the 1980's, then at Bell Labs. We originally called this puppy a COMFET, and I made several myself after learning the technique. The correct spelling of his name is evident on the Patent, which is already linked in the article as reference "10", as of June 17th, 2008. </p><p><a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Mbanak&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Mbanak (page does not exist)">Mbanak</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Mbanak" title="User talk:Mbanak">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Insulated-gate_bipolar_transistor#c-Mbanak-2008-06-17T16:27:00.000Z-Just_wanted_to_fix_the_Name_of_one_of_the_founding_inventors." class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:27, 17 June 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Mbanak-2008-06-17T16:27:00.000Z-Just_wanted_to_fix_the_Name_of_one_of_the_founding_inventors."><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2008-06-17T16:27:00.000Z","author":"Mbanak","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Mbanak-2008-06-17T16:27:00.000Z-Just_wanted_to_fix_the_Name_of_one_of_the_founding_inventors.","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Mbanak-2008-06-17T16:27:00.000Z-Just_wanted_to_fix_the_Name_of_one_of_the_founding_inventors."></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Ilikefood-2008-08-29T18:09:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Alternate_equivalent_circuit?-2008-08-29T18:09:00.000Z","replies":["c-Ilikefood-2008-08-29T18:09:00.000Z-Alternate_equivalent_circuit?"],"text":"Alternate equivalent circuit?","linkableTitle":"Alternate equivalent circuit?"}--><h2 id="Alternate_equivalent_circuit?" data-mw-thread-id="h-Alternate_equivalent_circuit?-2008-08-29T18:09:00.000Z"><span id="Alternate_equivalent_circuit.3F"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Alternate_equivalent_circuit?-2008-08-29T18:09:00.000Z"></span>Alternate equivalent circuit?<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Alternate_equivalent_circuit?-2008-08-29T18:09:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Talk:Insulated-gate_bipolar_transistor&action=edit&section=15" title="Edit section: Alternate equivalent circuit?"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Ilikefood-2008-08-29T18:09:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Alternate_equivalent_circuit?-2008-08-29T18:09:00.000Z","replies":["c-Ilikefood-2008-08-29T18:09:00.000Z-Alternate_equivalent_circuit?"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-Ilikefood-2008-09-05T16:54:00.000Z-Ilikefood-2008-08-29T18:09:00.000Z","timestamp":"2008-09-05T16:54:00.000Z"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__2__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__1__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Ilikefood-2008-08-29T18:09:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Alternate_equivalent_circuit?-2008-08-29T18:09:00.000Z","replies":["c-Ilikefood-2008-08-29T18:09:00.000Z-Alternate_equivalent_circuit?"],"text":"Alternate equivalent circuit?","linkableTitle":"Alternate equivalent circuit?"}--></div></div></div><p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Ilikefood-2008-08-29T18:09:00.000Z-Alternate_equivalent_circuit?"></span> I think we can all agree that the most popular equivalent circuit for an IGBT is the model that uses just a pnp transistor and a N-channel FET, right? I was reading some stuff online and I found a circuit that, when run in a simulator, appeared to simulate an IGBT far more accurately. </p><figure class="mw-default-size" typeof="mw:Error mw:File/Thumb"><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Upload?wpDestFile=IGBT_Model.jpg" class="new" title="File:IGBT Model.jpg"><span class="mw-file-element mw-broken-media" data-width="180">File:IGBT Model.jpg</span></a><figcaption>(I made this image because I could not find the original website where the concept was. If I had found it again, I would have linked to it instead of using this picture.)</figcaption></figure><p> Is this worth mentioning? Thanks.<a href="/wiki/User:Ilikefood" title="User:Ilikefood">Ilikefood</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Ilikefood" title="User talk:Ilikefood">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Insulated-gate_bipolar_transistor#c-Ilikefood-2008-08-29T18:09:00.000Z-Alternate_equivalent_circuit?" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:09, 29 August 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Ilikefood-2008-08-29T18:09:00.000Z-Alternate_equivalent_circuit?"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2008-08-29T18:09:00.000Z","author":"Ilikefood","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Ilikefood-2008-08-29T18:09:00.000Z-Alternate_equivalent_circuit?","replies":["c-Ilikefood-2008-09-05T16:54:00.000Z-Ilikefood-2008-08-29T18:09:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Ilikefood-2008-08-29T18:09:00.000Z-Alternate_equivalent_circuit?"></span> </p><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Ilikefood-2008-09-05T16:54:00.000Z-Ilikefood-2008-08-29T18:09:00.000Z"></span>edit: I found it. It's here: <a rel="nofollow" class="external autonumber" href="http://www.ixyspower.com/images/technical_support/Application%20Notes%20By%20Topic/IGBTs/IXYS_IGBT_Basic_I.pdf">[1]</a>. <a href="/wiki/User:Ilikefood" title="User:Ilikefood">Ilikefood</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Ilikefood" title="User talk:Ilikefood">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Insulated-gate_bipolar_transistor#c-Ilikefood-2008-09-05T16:54:00.000Z-Ilikefood-2008-08-29T18:09:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:54, 5 September 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Ilikefood-2008-09-05T16:54:00.000Z-Ilikefood-2008-08-29T18:09:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span 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id="Question_about_middle-image_caption_in_"Usage"_section" data-mw-thread-id="h-Question_about_middle-image_caption_in_"Usage"_section-2010-12-17T03:24:00.000Z"><span id="Question_about_middle-image_caption_in_.22Usage.22_section"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Question_about_middle-image_caption_in_"Usage"_section-2010-12-17T03:24:00.000Z"></span>Question about middle-image caption in "Usage" section<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Question_about_middle-image_caption_in_"Usage"_section-2010-12-17T03:24:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Talk:Insulated-gate_bipolar_transistor&action=edit&section=16" title="Edit section: Question about middle-image caption in "Usage" section"><span>edit</span></a><span 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class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Mikiemike-2010-12-17T03:24:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Question_about_middle-image_caption_in_\"Usage\"_section-2010-12-17T03:24:00.000Z","replies":["c-Mikiemike-2010-12-17T03:24:00.000Z-Question_about_middle-image_caption_in_\"Usage\"_section"],"text":"Question about middle-image caption in \"Usage\" section","linkableTitle":"Question about middle-image caption in \"Usage\" section"}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Mikiemike-2010-12-17T03:24:00.000Z-Question_about_middle-image_caption_in_"Usage"_section"></span>Doesn't 4 transistors make a <b>FULL</b> H-bridge?<br/> Why does the caption say only a half-bridge?<br/> <a href="/wiki/User:Mikiemike" title="User:Mikiemike">Mikiemike</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Mikiemike" title="User talk:Mikiemike">talk</a>) 03:24, 17 December 2010 (UTC) correct <small><span class="autosigned">— Preceding <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Signatures" title="Wikipedia:Signatures">unsigned</a> comment added by <a href="/wiki/User:IXYSGREEN" title="User:IXYSGREEN">IXYSGREEN</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:IXYSGREEN" title="User talk:IXYSGREEN">talk</a> • <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/IXYSGREEN" title="Special:Contributions/IXYSGREEN">contribs</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Insulated-gate_bipolar_transistor#c-Mikiemike-2010-12-17T03:24:00.000Z-Question_about_middle-image_caption_in_"Usage"_section" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:17, 5 January 2012 (UTC)</a></span></small><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Mikiemike-2010-12-17T03:24:00.000Z-Question_about_middle-image_caption_in_"Usage"_section"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span 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class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-EEye-2014-03-17T18:04:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Terminology-2014-03-17T18:04:00.000Z","replies":["c-EEye-2014-03-17T18:04:00.000Z-Terminology"],"text":"Terminology","linkableTitle":"Terminology"}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-EEye-2014-03-17T18:04:00.000Z-Terminology"></span>The article needs an explanation of the different flavours of IGBT available and the manufacturers' terminology (sometimes different terms for the same thing?): enhancement-mode, depletion-mode, punch-through, non-punch-through, field stop, shorted anode, trench, depletion stop trench, etc. The symbol for a depletion-mode device should be replaced by one for an enhancement-mode device, because this is what most if not all commercial products are. <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:EEye&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:EEye (page does not exist)">EEye</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:EEye" title="User talk:EEye">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Insulated-gate_bipolar_transistor#c-EEye-2014-03-17T18:04:00.000Z-Terminology" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:04, 17 March 2014 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-EEye-2014-03-17T18:04:00.000Z-Terminology"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2014-03-17T18:04:00.000Z","author":"EEye","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-EEye-2014-03-17T18:04:00.000Z-Terminology","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-EEye-2014-03-17T18:04:00.000Z-Terminology"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 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text" href="http://www.powerguru.org/2012/05/22/comparing-the-incomparable-understanding-and-comparing-igbt-module-datasheets/"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Bmwtroll-2012-07-25T10:17:00.000Z-Relevant_Links"></span>Comparing the Incomparable - Understanding and Comparing IGBT Module Datasheets</a></li> <li><a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="http://www.powerguru.org/2012/04/15/criteria-for-a-successful-selection-of-igbt-and-mosfet-modules/">Criteria for Successful Selection of IGBT and MOSFET Modules</a></li></ul> <p>Please discuss here if you find links relevant which I personally do <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Bmwtroll&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Bmwtroll (page does not exist)">Bmwtroll</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Bmwtroll" class="mw-redirect" title="User talk:Bmwtroll">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Insulated-gate_bipolar_transistor#c-Bmwtroll-2012-07-25T10:17:00.000Z-Relevant_Links" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:17, 25 July 2012 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Bmwtroll-2012-07-25T10:17:00.000Z-Relevant_Links"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2012-07-25T10:17:00.000Z","author":"Bmwtroll","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Bmwtroll-2012-07-25T10:17:00.000Z-Relevant_Links","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Bmwtroll-2012-07-25T10:17:00.000Z-Relevant_Links"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 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class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Manorainjan-2014-12-22T20:59:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Non-Punch-Through-IGBT-2014-12-22T20:59:00.000Z","replies":["c-Manorainjan-2014-12-22T20:59:00.000Z-Non-Punch-Through-IGBT"],"text":"Non-Punch-Through-IGBT","linkableTitle":"Non-Punch-Through-IGBT"}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Manorainjan-2014-12-22T20:59:00.000Z-Non-Punch-Through-IGBT"></span>I added Non-Punch-Through-IGBT to <a href="/wiki/NPT#Technology" class="mw-disambig" title="NPT">NPT#Technology</a>. </p><p>Unfortunately until now the NPT-Variant ist not yet mentioned in the article. </p><p>In the German counterpart it is said: "Im Gegensatz zu Leistungs-MOSFETs können Punch-Through-IGBTs (PT-IGBT) zur Erhöhung der Stromtragfähigkeit nicht ohne weiteres parallel geschaltet werden. Non-Punch-Through-IGBTs (NPT-IGBT) hingegen besitzen wie die Leistungs-MOSFETs einen positiven Temperaturkoeffizienten und können parallel geschaltet werden. In den meisten IGBT-Hochleistungsmodulen wird das auch getan." </p><p>This roghtly translates to: "Unlike power MOSFETs, Punch-Through-IGBTs (PT-IGBT) can not be connected in parallel easily to increase the current carrying capacity. Non-Punch-Through IGBT (NPT-IGBT), however, have a positive temperature coefficient like power MOSFETs and therefore can be connected in parallel. In most IGBT high power modules this is done." </p><p>Maybe someone with knowledge about the technical terms can fit this into the article. </p><p>And I suggest to use the first picture of the German article as well. <a href="/wiki/User:Manorainjan" title="User:Manorainjan">Manorainjan</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Manorainjan" title="User talk:Manorainjan">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Insulated-gate_bipolar_transistor#c-Manorainjan-2014-12-22T20:59:00.000Z-Non-Punch-Through-IGBT" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:59, 22 December 2014 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Manorainjan-2014-12-22T20:59:00.000Z-Non-Punch-Through-IGBT"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span 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class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Arghman-2016-04-28T21:17:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Symbol-2016-04-28T21:17:00.000Z","replies":["c-Arghman-2016-04-28T21:17:00.000Z-Symbol"],"text":"Symbol","linkableTitle":"Symbol"}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Arghman-2016-04-28T21:17:00.000Z-Symbol"></span>Please add the IGBT symbol <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Arghman&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Arghman (page does not exist)">Arghman</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Arghman" title="User talk:Arghman">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Insulated-gate_bipolar_transistor#c-Arghman-2016-04-28T21:17:00.000Z-Symbol" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:17, 28 April 2016 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Arghman-2016-04-28T21:17:00.000Z-Symbol"><span 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data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Beyond_IGBT?-2016-01-23T21:56:00.000Z"></span>Beyond IGBT?<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Beyond_IGBT?-2016-01-23T21:56:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Talk:Insulated-gate_bipolar_transistor&action=edit&section=21" title="Edit section: Beyond IGBT?"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-87.97.103.13-2016-01-23T21:56:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Beyond_IGBT?-2016-01-23T21:56:00.000Z","replies":["c-87.97.103.13-2016-01-23T21:56:00.000Z-Beyond_IGBT?"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-87.97.103.13-2016-01-23T22:38:00.000Z-87.97.103.13-2016-01-23T21:56:00.000Z","timestamp":"2016-01-23T22:38:00.000Z"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__2__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__1__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-87.97.103.13-2016-01-23T21:56:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Beyond_IGBT?-2016-01-23T21:56:00.000Z","replies":["c-87.97.103.13-2016-01-23T21:56:00.000Z-Beyond_IGBT?"],"text":"Beyond IGBT?","linkableTitle":"Beyond IGBT?"}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-87.97.103.13-2016-01-23T21:56:00.000Z-Beyond_IGBT?"></span>The article could discuss if there is anything visible or theorized to come up, beyond IGBT? Many people now think the most modern IGBT generation is the end of the journey, the sorcerers' stone found as far as semicondutor based power electronics goes and nothing futher revolutionary but only very gradual progress can be expected. (Just like how silicon-based ICs stayed with us for over almost 50 years and Intel's latest 14nm is essentially the end of the journey started by the 4004/8088, a further revolution never happened.) <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/87.97.103.13" title="Special:Contributions/87.97.103.13">87.97.103.13</a> (<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:87.97.103.13&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:87.97.103.13 (page does not exist)">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Insulated-gate_bipolar_transistor#c-87.97.103.13-2016-01-23T21:56:00.000Z-Beyond_IGBT?" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:56, 23 January 2016 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-87.97.103.13-2016-01-23T21:56:00.000Z-Beyond_IGBT?"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-01-23T21:56:00.000Z","author":"87.97.103.13","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-87.97.103.13-2016-01-23T21:56:00.000Z-Beyond_IGBT?","replies":["c-87.97.103.13-2016-01-23T22:38:00.000Z-87.97.103.13-2016-01-23T21:56:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-87.97.103.13-2016-01-23T21:56:00.000Z-Beyond_IGBT?"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-87.97.103.13-2016-01-23T22:38:00.000Z-87.97.103.13-2016-01-23T21:56:00.000Z"></span>Indeed, it would seem that IGBT is the end of the journey, at least for our generation. The int'l railway federation (UIC) states:</dd> <dd></dd> <dd><a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="http://www.railway-energy.org/static/IGBT_28.php">http://www.railway-energy.org/static/IGBT_28.php</a></dd> <dd>--> At present, no innovations in power electronic replacing IGBTs are close to market stage, not even in the low-power segment (which is usually an early monitor for later developments in the power segments relevant for railway applications). <--</dd> <dd>- IGBTs have reached maturity and only peripheral R&D remains to be done in this field, like: raise blocking voltages, increase switching frequency,reduce losses,reduce weight, optimize circuits and cooling.</dd> <dd>Furthermore:</dd> <dd>- JR Hokkaido railway company claims IGBT controlled 3-phase AC motors reduce environmental train noise by 10% compared to their GTO counterpart. [Important issue in small and crowded Japan, e.g. the FASTECH360 shinkansen experiment failed due to noise pollution!]</dd> <dd>- JR Hokkaido also claim IGBT controlled 3-phase AC motors save 15% energy compared to their GTO predecessors.</dd> <dd>- IGBTs can now operate at >1000A at 3-4x higher switching frequency than GTO and such high switching frequencies smoothen the trains' acceleration process.</dd> <dd>- IGBT modules are generally lighter than GTO modules by some 30%. This offers constructive advantages for vehicles.</dd> <dd>- Compared to GTO less cooling is required for IGBT and no organic coolants are required)</dd> <dd>- Due to IGBT advances, GTO is now out of picture up to 7MW for newly built railway prime movers and MU.</dd> <dd>( Extra points: nowadays even 300USD household washing machines are run by 3-phase AC motor with DSP-controlled IGBT supply. The low-end market thus has been conquered just as the superexpress field. Maybe the carbide-hardened silicon MOSFET can be a worthy opponent in some marginal areas?) <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/87.97.103.13" title="Special:Contributions/87.97.103.13">87.97.103.13</a> (<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:87.97.103.13&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:87.97.103.13 (page does not exist)">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Insulated-gate_bipolar_transistor#c-87.97.103.13-2016-01-23T22:38:00.000Z-87.97.103.13-2016-01-23T21:56:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:38, 23 January 2016 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-87.97.103.13-2016-01-23T22:38:00.000Z-87.97.103.13-2016-01-23T21:56:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-01-23T22:38:00.000Z","author":"87.97.103.13","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-87.97.103.13-2016-01-23T22:38:00.000Z-87.97.103.13-2016-01-23T21:56:00.000Z","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-87.97.103.13-2016-01-23T22:38:00.000Z-87.97.103.13-2016-01-23T21:56:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-InternetArchiveBot-2017-04-11T10:25:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-External_links_modified-2017-04-11T10:25:00.000Z","replies":["c-InternetArchiveBot-2017-04-11T10:25:00.000Z-External_links_modified"],"text":"External links modified","linkableTitle":"External links modified"}--><h2 id="External_links_modified" data-mw-thread-id="h-External_links_modified-2017-04-11T10:25:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-External_links_modified-2017-04-11T10:25:00.000Z"></span>External links modified<span data-mw-comment-end="h-External_links_modified-2017-04-11T10:25:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Talk:Insulated-gate_bipolar_transistor&action=edit&section=22" title="Edit section: External links modified"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-InternetArchiveBot-2017-04-11T10:25:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-External_links_modified-2017-04-11T10:25:00.000Z","replies":["c-InternetArchiveBot-2017-04-11T10:25:00.000Z-External_links_modified"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-InternetArchiveBot-2017-04-11T10:25:00.000Z-External_links_modified","timestamp":"2017-04-11T10:25:00.000Z"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__1__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__1__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-InternetArchiveBot-2017-04-11T10:25:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-External_links_modified-2017-04-11T10:25:00.000Z","replies":["c-InternetArchiveBot-2017-04-11T10:25:00.000Z-External_links_modified"],"text":"External links modified","linkableTitle":"External links modified"}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-InternetArchiveBot-2017-04-11T10:25:00.000Z-External_links_modified"></span>Hello fellow Wikipedians, </p><p>I have just modified one external link on <a href="/wiki/Insulated-gate_bipolar_transistor" title="Insulated-gate bipolar transistor">Insulated-gate bipolar transistor</a>. 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See these articles: <sup id="cite_ref-1" class="reference"><a href="#cite_note-1"><span class="cite-bracket">[</span>1<span class="cite-bracket">]</span></a></sup> <sup id="cite_ref-2" class="reference"><a href="#cite_note-2"><span class="cite-bracket">[</span>2<span class="cite-bracket">]</span></a></sup> This is a suggestion. I have not changed the wiki article. <a href="/wiki/User:Scott_Bowden" title="User:Scott Bowden">Scott Bowden</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Scott_Bowden" title="User talk:Scott Bowden">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Insulated-gate_bipolar_transistor#c-Scott_Bowden-2018-03-28T13:26:00.000Z-IGBT_Applications" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:26, 28 March 2018 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Scott_Bowden-2018-03-28T13:26:00.000Z-IGBT_Applications"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2018-03-28T13:26:00.000Z","author":"Scott Bowden","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Scott_Bowden-2018-03-28T13:26:00.000Z-IGBT_Applications","replies":["c-Maestro2016-2019-12-29T03:14:00.000Z-Scott_Bowden-2018-03-28T13:26:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Scott_Bowden-2018-03-28T13:26:00.000Z-IGBT_Applications"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Maestro2016-2019-12-29T03:14:00.000Z-Scott_Bowden-2018-03-28T13:26:00.000Z"></span>I have now added this to the article. <a href="/wiki/User:Maestro2016" title="User:Maestro2016">Maestro2016</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Maestro2016" title="User talk:Maestro2016">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Insulated-gate_bipolar_transistor#c-Maestro2016-2019-12-29T03:14:00.000Z-Scott_Bowden-2018-03-28T13:26:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">03:14, 29 December 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Maestro2016-2019-12-29T03:14:00.000Z-Scott_Bowden-2018-03-28T13:26:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2019-12-29T03:14:00.000Z","author":"Maestro2016","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Maestro2016-2019-12-29T03:14:00.000Z-Scott_Bowden-2018-03-28T13:26:00.000Z","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Maestro2016-2019-12-29T03:14:00.000Z-Scott_Bowden-2018-03-28T13:26:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-150.227.15.253-2018-12-09T15:52:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-A_section_with_more_technical_focus_on_the_IGBT_itself_please!-2018-12-09T15:52:00.000Z","replies":["c-150.227.15.253-2018-12-09T15:52:00.000Z-A_section_with_more_technical_focus_on_the_IGBT_itself_please!"],"text":"A section with more technical focus on the IGBT itself please!","linkableTitle":"A section with more technical focus on the IGBT itself please!"}--><h2 id="A_section_with_more_technical_focus_on_the_IGBT_itself_please!" data-mw-thread-id="h-A_section_with_more_technical_focus_on_the_IGBT_itself_please!-2018-12-09T15:52:00.000Z"><span id="A_section_with_more_technical_focus_on_the_IGBT_itself_please.21"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-A_section_with_more_technical_focus_on_the_IGBT_itself_please!-2018-12-09T15:52:00.000Z"></span>A section with more technical focus on the IGBT itself please!<span 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class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-150.227.15.253-2018-12-09T15:52:00.000Z-A_section_with_more_technical_focus_on_the_IGBT_itself_please!","timestamp":"2018-12-09T15:52:00.000Z"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__1__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__1__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-150.227.15.253-2018-12-09T15:52:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-A_section_with_more_technical_focus_on_the_IGBT_itself_please!-2018-12-09T15:52:00.000Z","replies":["c-150.227.15.253-2018-12-09T15:52:00.000Z-A_section_with_more_technical_focus_on_the_IGBT_itself_please!"],"text":"A section with more technical focus on the IGBT itself please!","linkableTitle":"A section with more technical focus on the IGBT itself please!"}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-150.227.15.253-2018-12-09T15:52:00.000Z-A_section_with_more_technical_focus_on_the_IGBT_itself_please!"></span>The article is very much focussed on history but there is rather little information describing the electrical behaviour of IGBTs in normal operation. At least a blackbox description is needed but additional information is welcome. Some example of typical switch cirquits including drive signals, and anlogue applications (if relevant) is also very welcome.<a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/150.227.15.253" title="Special:Contributions/150.227.15.253">150.227.15.253</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:150.227.15.253" title="User talk:150.227.15.253">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Insulated-gate_bipolar_transistor#c-150.227.15.253-2018-12-09T15:52:00.000Z-A_section_with_more_technical_focus_on_the_IGBT_itself_please!" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:52, 9 December 2018 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-150.227.15.253-2018-12-09T15:52:00.000Z-A_section_with_more_technical_focus_on_the_IGBT_itself_please!"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span 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exist)">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Insulated-gate_bipolar_transistor#c-85.240.217.166-2019-02-21T16:12:00.000Z-Wouldn't_an_IGBT_running_at_6kV_produce_X-rays_during_transition?" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:12, 21 February 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-85.240.217.166-2019-02-21T16:12:00.000Z-Wouldn't_an_IGBT_running_at_6kV_produce_X-rays_during_transition?"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2019-02-21T16:12:00.000Z","author":"85.240.217.166","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-85.240.217.166-2019-02-21T16:12:00.000Z-Wouldn't_an_IGBT_running_at_6kV_produce_X-rays_during_transition?","replies":[]}}--></span><span 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href="https://insights.globalspec.com/article/1365/linear-motor-aircraft-launch-system-takes-the-steam-out-of-catapults">https://insights.globalspec.com/article/1365/linear-motor-aircraft-launch-system-takes-the-steam-out-of-catapults</a></span> </li> <li id="cite_note-2"><span class="mw-cite-backlink"><b><a href="#cite_ref-2">^</a></b></span> <span class="reference-text"><a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="https://www.theepochtimes.com/on-the-chinese-communist-partys-tactics-for-stealing-western-military-technologies-part-1-of-2_2461615.html">https://www.theepochtimes.com/on-the-chinese-communist-partys-tactics-for-stealing-western-military-technologies-part-1-of-2_2461615.html</a></span> </li> </ol></div></div> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-81.89.66.133-20221216152600","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Needs_GIFs-20221216152600","replies":["c-81.89.66.133-20221216152600-Needs_GIFs"],"text":"Needs GIFs","linkableTitle":"Needs GIFs"}--><h2 id="Needs_GIFs" data-mw-thread-id="h-Needs_GIFs-20221216152600"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Needs_GIFs-20221216152600"></span>Needs GIFs<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Needs_GIFs-20221216152600"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Talk:Insulated-gate_bipolar_transistor&action=edit&section=27" title="Edit section: Needs GIFs"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-81.89.66.133-20221216152600","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Needs_GIFs-20221216152600","replies":["c-81.89.66.133-20221216152600-Needs_GIFs"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-81.89.66.133-20221216152600-Needs_GIFs","timestamp":"20221216152600"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__1__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__1__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-81.89.66.133-20221216152600","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Needs_GIFs-20221216152600","replies":["c-81.89.66.133-20221216152600-Needs_GIFs"],"text":"Needs GIFs","linkableTitle":"Needs GIFs"}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-81.89.66.133-20221216152600-Needs_GIFs"></span>Can't really imagine how "insulated gate" part helps bipolar transistors <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/81.89.66.133" title="Special:Contributions/81.89.66.133">81.89.66.133</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:81.89.66.133" title="User talk:81.89.66.133">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Insulated-gate_bipolar_transistor#c-81.89.66.133-20221216152600-Needs_GIFs" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:26, 16 December 2022 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-81.89.66.133-20221216152600-Needs_GIFs"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20221216152600","author":"81.89.66.133","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-81.89.66.133-20221216152600-Needs_GIFs","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-81.89.66.133-20221216152600-Needs_GIFs"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-LachlanA-20221230043800","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Error_in_figure?-20221230043800","replies":["c-LachlanA-20221230043800-Error_in_figure?"],"text":"Error in figure?","linkableTitle":"Error in figure?"}--><h2 id="Error_in_figure?" data-mw-thread-id="h-Error_in_figure?-20221230043800"><span id="Error_in_figure.3F"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Error_in_figure?-20221230043800"></span>Error in figure?<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Error_in_figure?-20221230043800"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Talk:Insulated-gate_bipolar_transistor&action=edit&section=28" title="Edit section: Error in figure?"><span>edit</span></a><span 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<a class="external autonumber" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Insulated-gate_bipolar_transistor#/media/File:IGBT_Cross_Section.jpg">[2]</a> included from this page has the "arrow" of the circuit symbol connected to the collector region of semiconductor. I assume this is an error. What is the best way to report that? <a href="/wiki/User:LachlanA" title="User:LachlanA">LachlanA</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:LachlanA" title="User talk:LachlanA">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Insulated-gate_bipolar_transistor#c-LachlanA-20221230043800-Error_in_figure?" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">04:38, 30 December 2022 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-LachlanA-20221230043800-Error_in_figure?"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20221230043800","author":"LachlanA","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-LachlanA-20221230043800-Error_in_figure?","replies":["c-37.2.59.8-20230117231200-LachlanA-20221230043800"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-LachlanA-20221230043800-Error_in_figure?"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-37.2.59.8-20230117231200-LachlanA-20221230043800"></span>Good question. I just realised the same thing, and upon reading through this talk page I notice that this was reported already in 2010, in the very first talk page section "Miscellaneous". Apparently nobody reacted to that then… My understanding is that the labels "emitter" and "collector" should be switched, but it could be some convention which makes sense to people more familiar with these devices (e.g. control voltage is that between gate and other top connector, which is why people think of it as "emitter"). In that case, the article should explain why terminology is the way it is. <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/37.2.59.8" title="Special:Contributions/37.2.59.8">37.2.59.8</a> (<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:37.2.59.8&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:37.2.59.8 (page does not exist)">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Insulated-gate_bipolar_transistor#c-37.2.59.8-20230117231200-LachlanA-20221230043800" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:12, 17 January 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-37.2.59.8-20230117231200-LachlanA-20221230043800"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20230117231200","author":"37.2.59.8","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-37.2.59.8-20230117231200-LachlanA-20221230043800","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-37.2.59.8-20230117231200-LachlanA-20221230043800"></span></dd></dl> <!-- NewPP limit report Parsed by mw‐web.codfw.main‐f69cdc8f6‐qqs7t Cached time: 20241124232957 Cache expiry: 864000 Reduced expiry: true Complications: [vary‐revision‐sha1, show‐toc] DiscussionTools time usage: 0.034 seconds CPU time usage: 0.289 seconds Real time usage: 0.410 seconds Preprocessor visited node count: 1513/1000000 Post‐expand include size: 31934/2097152 bytes Template argument size: 2975/2097152 bytes Highest expansion depth: 16/100 Expensive parser function count: 29/500 Unstrip recursion depth: 0/20 Unstrip post‐expand size: 14691/5000000 bytes Lua time usage: 0.115/10.000 seconds Lua memory usage: 2799644/52428800 bytes Number of Wikibase entities loaded: 0/400 --> <!-- Transclusion expansion time report (%,ms,calls,template) 100.00% 261.447 1 -total 55.19% 144.304 1 Template:Talk_Header 31.78% 83.088 1 Template:WikiProject_banner_shell 21.04% 55.013 1 Template:WikiProject_Electronics 20.54% 53.699 1 Template:Pagetype 10.44% 27.286 1 Template:Yearly_archive_list 8.97% 23.460 1 Template:For_loop 8.65% 22.610 1 Template:Find_sources 6.13% 16.031 3 Template:Userlinks 5.76% 15.059 23 Template:Ifexist_not_redirect --> <!-- Saved in parser cache with key enwiki:pcache:idhash:4342405-0!canonical and timestamp 20241124232957 and revision id 1202966269. 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