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id="toc-Formatting_Nesebar_Gap_and_others-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Map_sources" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Map_sources"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">5</span> <span>Map sources</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Map_sources-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Peaks" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Peaks"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">6</span> <span>Peaks</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">2 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Peaks-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-New_articles_(yet_again)" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#New_articles_(yet_again)"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span 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id="toc-New_category" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#New_category"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">10</span> <span>New category</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">2 comments</span> <ul id="toc-New_category-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Wikipedia:_If_it_ain't_broke_fix_it" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Wikipedia:_If_it_ain't_broke_fix_it"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">11</span> <span>Wikipedia: If it ain't broke fix it</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">2 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Wikipedia:_If_it_ain't_broke_fix_it-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Vazov_Point" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Vazov_Point"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">12</span> <span>Vazov Point</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">3 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Vazov_Point-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Antarctica" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Antarctica"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">13</span> <span>Antarctica</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">4 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Antarctica-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Finished!" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Finished!"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">14</span> <span>Finished!</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Finished!-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-St._Kliment_Ohridski" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#St._Kliment_Ohridski"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">15</span> <span>St. Kliment Ohridski</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">3 comments</span> <ul id="toc-St._Kliment_Ohridski-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Image_Tagging_Image:Tarnovo-Livingston.jpg" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Image_Tagging_Image:Tarnovo-Livingston.jpg"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">16</span> <span>Image Tagging Image:Tarnovo-Livingston.jpg</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">3 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Image_Tagging_Image:Tarnovo-Livingston.jpg-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Churches_in_Antarctica" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Churches_in_Antarctica"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">17</span> <span>Churches in Antarctica</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">2 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Churches_in_Antarctica-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Antartica_image" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Antartica_image"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">18</span> <span>Antartica image</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Antartica_image-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Catalan_wiki" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Catalan_wiki"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">19</span> <span>Catalan wiki</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">3 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Catalan_wiki-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Reverting_the_Antarctica_FAC" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Reverting_the_Antarctica_FAC"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">20</span> <span>Reverting the Antarctica FAC</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Reverting_the_Antarctica_FAC-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Re_{{Outlying_areas_of_Europe}}" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Re_{{Outlying_areas_of_Europe}}"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">21</span> <span>Re <span>{{</span>Outlying areas of Europe<span>}}</span></span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">23 comments</span> <button aria-controls="toc-Re_{{Outlying_areas_of_Europe}}-sublist" class="cdx-button cdx-button--weight-quiet cdx-button--icon-only vector-toc-toggle"> <span class="vector-icon mw-ui-icon-wikimedia-expand"></span> <span>Toggle Re <span>{{</span>Outlying areas of Europe<span>}}</span> subsection</span> </button> <ul id="toc-Re_{{Outlying_areas_of_Europe}}-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> <li id="toc-Flags" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-2"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Flags"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">21.1</span> <span>Flags</span> </div> </a> <ul id="toc-Flags-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> <li id="toc-{{Peri-Antarctic_countries_and_overseas_territories}}" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-3"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#{{Peri-Antarctic_countries_and_overseas_territories}}"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">21.1.1</span> <span><span>{{</span>Peri-Antarctic countries and overseas territories<span>}}</span></span> </div> </a> <ul id="toc-{{Peri-Antarctic_countries_and_overseas_territories}}-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Compact_version" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-2"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Compact_version"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">21.2</span> <span>Compact version</span> </div> </a> <ul id="toc-Compact_version-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Trying_to_reduce_line_height" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-2"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Trying_to_reduce_line_height"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">21.3</span> <span>Trying to reduce line height</span> </div> </a> <ul id="toc-Trying_to_reduce_line_height-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Re_Peri-Antarctic" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Re_Peri-Antarctic"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">22</span> <span>Re Peri-Antarctic</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">2 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Re_Peri-Antarctic-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Edits_in_the_article_of_the_SGSSI" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Edits_in_the_article_of_the_SGSSI"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">23</span> <span>Edits in the article of the SGSSI</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">2 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Edits_in_the_article_of_the_SGSSI-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Your_attacks" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Your_attacks"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">24</span> <span>Your attacks</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">7 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Your_attacks-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Mercator_Cooper" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Mercator_Cooper"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">25</span> <span>Mercator Cooper</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">2 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Mercator_Cooper-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Bulgarian_lev" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Bulgarian_lev"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">26</span> <span>Bulgarian lev</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">3 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Bulgarian_lev-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Your_map_is_a_featured_picture_candidate" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Your_map_is_a_featured_picture_candidate"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">27</span> <span>Your map is a featured picture candidate</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Your_map_is_a_featured_picture_candidate-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-The_beginning_of_the_secular_celebration_of_24th_of_May" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#The_beginning_of_the_secular_celebration_of_24th_of_May"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">28</span> <span>The beginning of the secular celebration of 24th of May</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-The_beginning_of_the_secular_celebration_of_24th_of_May-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Your_Reverts" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Your_Reverts"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">29</span> <span>Your Reverts</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Your_Reverts-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Re:" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Re:"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">30</span> <span>Re:</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">3 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Re:-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Thanks" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Thanks"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">31</span> <span>Thanks</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Thanks-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-{{Ancient-Thrace-bio-stub}}" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#{{Ancient-Thrace-bio-stub}}"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">32</span> <span><span>{{</span>Ancient-Thrace-bio-stub<span>}}</span></span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">6 comments</span> <ul id="toc-{{Ancient-Thrace-bio-stub}}-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Request_for_edit_summary" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Request_for_edit_summary"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">33</span> <span>Request for edit summary</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Request_for_edit_summary-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-1833" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#1833"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">34</span> <span>1833</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">2 comments</span> <ul id="toc-1833-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-верно_ли_е?" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#верно_ли_е?"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">35</span> <span>верно ли е?</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-верно_ли_е?-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Sovereignty_of_the_Falkland_Islands" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Sovereignty_of_the_Falkland_Islands"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">36</span> <span>Sovereignty of the Falkland Islands</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">2 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Sovereignty_of_the_Falkland_Islands-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-History_of_the_Falkland_Islands" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#History_of_the_Falkland_Islands"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">37</span> <span>History of the Falkland Islands</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">3 comments</span> <ul id="toc-History_of_the_Falkland_Islands-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Jewett" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Jewett"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">38</span> <span>Jewett</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">3 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Jewett-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-origins" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#origins"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">39</span> <span>origins</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-origins-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Kudos" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Kudos"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">40</span> <span>Kudos</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">5 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Kudos-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Did_you_know" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Did_you_know"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">41</span> <span>Did you know</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">2 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Did_you_know-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Falkland_Islands_articles" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Falkland_Islands_articles"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">42</span> <span>Falkland Islands articles</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">3 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Falkland_Islands_articles-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Heroína" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Heroína"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">43</span> <span>Heroína</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">5 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Heroína-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Puerto_Soledad" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Puerto_Soledad"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">44</span> <span>Puerto Soledad</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">4 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Puerto_Soledad-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Generations" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Generations"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">45</span> <span>Generations</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Generations-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Stone_run_(nom)" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Stone_run_(nom)"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">46</span> <span>Stone run (nom)</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">4 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Stone_run_(nom)-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-DYK" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#DYK"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">47</span> <span>DYK</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-DYK-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Re:_2" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Re:_2"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">48</span> <span>Re:</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">2 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Re:_2-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Email" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Email"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">49</span> <span>Email</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">2 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Email-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Image:Mount-Imeon.PNG" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Image:Mount-Imeon.PNG"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">50</span> <span>Image:Mount-Imeon.PNG</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">2 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Image:Mount-Imeon.PNG-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Warning" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Warning"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">51</span> <span>Warning</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Warning-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-one_of_your_pages_is_up_for_deletion" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#one_of_your_pages_is_up_for_deletion"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">52</span> <span>one of your pages is up for deletion</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">2 comments</span> <ul id="toc-one_of_your_pages_is_up_for_deletion-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Conflict_of_interest_editing" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Conflict_of_interest_editing"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">53</span> <span>Conflict of interest editing</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">2 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Conflict_of_interest_editing-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-New_Group_you_may_be_interested_in" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#New_Group_you_may_be_interested_in"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">54</span> <span>New Group you may be interested in</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-New_Group_you_may_be_interested_in-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-The_Conqueror_picture" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#The_Conqueror_picture"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">55</span> <span>The Conqueror picture</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">5 comments</span> <ul id="toc-The_Conqueror_picture-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Changes_in_the_article_by_the_antarctica" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Changes_in_the_article_by_the_antarctica"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">56</span> <span>Changes in the article by the antarctica</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">2 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Changes_in_the_article_by_the_antarctica-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Award" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Award"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">57</span> <span>Award</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">2 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Award-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Antartica" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Antartica"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">58</span> <span>Antartica</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">2 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Antartica-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Antarctica_II" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Antarctica_II"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">59</span> <span>Antarctica II</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">2 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Antarctica_II-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Image_copyright_problem_with_Image:Logo-IMI.gif" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Image_copyright_problem_with_Image:Logo-IMI.gif"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">60</span> <span>Image copyright problem with Image:Logo-IMI.gif</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">4 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Image_copyright_problem_with_Image:Logo-IMI.gif-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Duff_Point" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Duff_Point"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">61</span> <span>Duff Point</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">2 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Duff_Point-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Articles_for_Deletion" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Articles_for_Deletion"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">62</span> <span>Articles for Deletion</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">5 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Articles_for_Deletion-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Wikinews" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Wikinews"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">63</span> <span>Wikinews</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Wikinews-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Bulgaria" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Bulgaria"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">64</span> <span>Bulgaria</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">2 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Bulgaria-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Photo_of_Church_on_Falkland_Islands" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Photo_of_Church_on_Falkland_Islands"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">65</span> <span>Photo of Church on Falkland Islands</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Photo_of_Church_on_Falkland_Islands-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Speedy_deletion_of_Michael_Holman_(linguist)" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Speedy_deletion_of_Michael_Holman_(linguist)"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">66</span> <span>Speedy deletion of Michael Holman (linguist)</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">2 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Speedy_deletion_of_Michael_Holman_(linguist)-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Image_copyright_problem_with_File:Wilderness-Fund-Logo.PNG" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Image_copyright_problem_with_File:Wilderness-Fund-Logo.PNG"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">67</span> <span>Image copyright problem with File:Wilderness-Fund-Logo.PNG</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">2 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Image_copyright_problem_with_File:Wilderness-Fund-Logo.PNG-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Cámara_base" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Cámara_base"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">68</span> <span>Cámara base</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">2 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Cámara_base-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Sorry..." class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Sorry..."> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">69</span> <span>Sorry...</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">2 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Sorry...-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Talk:Greece" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Talk:Greece"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">70</span> <span>Talk:Greece</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">3 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Talk:Greece-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Bulgarian_Macedonia" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Bulgarian_Macedonia"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">71</span> <span>Bulgarian Macedonia</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">8 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Bulgarian_Macedonia-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Macedonia_article_naming" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Macedonia_article_naming"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">72</span> <span>Macedonia article naming</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Macedonia_article_naming-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Straw_Poll_on_Units_of_Measurement_in_the_Falklands_Islands_article" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Straw_Poll_on_Units_of_Measurement_in_the_Falklands_Islands_article"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">73</span> <span>Straw Poll on Units of Measurement in the Falklands Islands article</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Straw_Poll_on_Units_of_Measurement_in_the_Falklands_Islands_article-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-The_Original_Barnstar" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#The_Original_Barnstar"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">74</span> <span>The Original Barnstar</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">2 comments</span> <ul id="toc-The_Original_Barnstar-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Language_help" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Language_help"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">75</span> <span>Language help</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">7 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Language_help-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Atanasoff" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Atanasoff"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">76</span> <span>Atanasoff</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">7 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Atanasoff-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Antarctic_Place-names_Commission" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Antarctic_Place-names_Commission"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">77</span> <span>Antarctic Place-names Commission</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">2 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Antarctic_Place-names_Commission-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Merry_Christmas" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Merry_Christmas"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">78</span> <span>Merry Christmas</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Merry_Christmas-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Christmas" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Christmas"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">79</span> <span>Christmas</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Christmas-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Deletion_Review" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Deletion_Review"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">80</span> <span>Deletion Review</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Deletion_Review-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-NowCommons:_File:Arkutino.jpg" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#NowCommons:_File:Arkutino.jpg"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">81</span> <span>NowCommons: File:Arkutino.jpg</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-NowCommons:_File:Arkutino.jpg-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-New_category_Category:Sealers" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#New_category_Category:Sealers"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">82</span> <span>New category Category:Sealers</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-New_category_Category:Sealers-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Gibraltar_/_San_Roque" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Gibraltar_/_San_Roque"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">83</span> <span>Gibraltar / San Roque</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Gibraltar_/_San_Roque-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-First_Bulgarian_Empire" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#First_Bulgarian_Empire"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">84</span> <span>First Bulgarian Empire</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-First_Bulgarian_Empire-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-File:Blue-Beach.JPG" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#File:Blue-Beach.JPG"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">85</span> <span>File:Blue-Beach.JPG</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">2 comments</span> <ul id="toc-File:Blue-Beach.JPG-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-RE:_Yesilköy" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#RE:_Yesilköy"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">86</span> <span>RE: Yesilköy</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">5 comments</span> <ul id="toc-RE:_Yesilköy-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-New_publication" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#New_publication"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">87</span> <span>New publication</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">7 comments</span> <ul id="toc-New_publication-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Civilians_left_at_Port_Louis_after_Onslow_takeover" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Civilians_left_at_Port_Louis_after_Onslow_takeover"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">88</span> <span>Civilians left at Port Louis after Onslow takeover</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Civilians_left_at_Port_Louis_after_Onslow_takeover-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Categories_for_discussion_nomination_of_Category:Bulgaria_in_Antarctica" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Categories_for_discussion_nomination_of_Category:Bulgaria_in_Antarctica"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">89</span> <span>Categories for discussion nomination of Category:Bulgaria in Antarctica</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Categories_for_discussion_nomination_of_Category:Bulgaria_in_Antarctica-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-You_are_now_a_Reviewer" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#You_are_now_a_Reviewer"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">90</span> <span>You are now a Reviewer</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-You_are_now_a_Reviewer-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Violation" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Violation"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">91</span> <span>Violation</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Violation-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Antarctic_islands" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Antarctic_islands"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">92</span> <span>Antarctic islands</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">2 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Antarctic_islands-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Non-Self-Governing" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Non-Self-Governing"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">93</span> <span>Non-Self-Governing</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">2 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Non-Self-Governing-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-New_articles_2" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#New_articles_2"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">94</span> <span>New articles</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-New_articles_2-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Talk:Gibraltar" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Talk:Gibraltar"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">95</span> <span>Talk:Gibraltar</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Talk:Gibraltar-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Antarctica_2" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Antarctica_2"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">96</span> <span>Antarctica</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">3 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Antarctica_2-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-UNASUR_maps" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#UNASUR_maps"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">97</span> <span>UNASUR maps</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">4 comments</span> <ul id="toc-UNASUR_maps-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Stub_tags,_again" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Stub_tags,_again"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">98</span> <span>Stub tags, again</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">2 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Stub_tags,_again-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Proposed_deletion_of_Basic_Roman_spelling_of_English" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Proposed_deletion_of_Basic_Roman_spelling_of_English"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">99</span> <span>Proposed deletion of Basic Roman spelling of English</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Proposed_deletion_of_Basic_Roman_spelling_of_English-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Proposed_deletion_of_Roman_Phonetic_Alphabet_for_English" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Proposed_deletion_of_Roman_Phonetic_Alphabet_for_English"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">100</span> <span>Proposed deletion of Roman Phonetic Alphabet for English</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Proposed_deletion_of_Roman_Phonetic_Alphabet_for_English-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Nomination_of_Basic_Roman_spelling_of_English_and_Roman_Phonetic_Alphabet_for_English_for_deletion" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Nomination_of_Basic_Roman_spelling_of_English_and_Roman_Phonetic_Alphabet_for_English_for_deletion"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">101</span> <span>Nomination of Basic Roman spelling of English and Roman Phonetic Alphabet for English for deletion</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Nomination_of_Basic_Roman_spelling_of_English_and_Roman_Phonetic_Alphabet_for_English_for_deletion-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Arbcom_complaint" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Arbcom_complaint"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">102</span> <span>Arbcom complaint</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Arbcom_complaint-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Thanks!" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Thanks!"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">103</span> <span>Thanks!</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">3 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Thanks!-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Survey_for_new_page_patrollers" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a 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id="toc-Nothing_important-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Dispute_resolution_survey" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Dispute_resolution_survey"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">107</span> <span>Dispute resolution survey</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Dispute_resolution_survey-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Question_about_the_transliteration_change_for_Macedonia" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Question_about_the_transliteration_change_for_Macedonia"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">108</span> <span>Question about the transliteration change for Macedonia</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">2 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Question_about_the_transliteration_change_for_Macedonia-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Notice_of_Dispute_resolution_discussion" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Notice_of_Dispute_resolution_discussion"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">109</span> <span>Notice of Dispute resolution discussion</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Notice_of_Dispute_resolution_discussion-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Notice_of_Dispute_resolution_discussion_2" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Notice_of_Dispute_resolution_discussion_2"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">110</span> <span>Notice of Dispute resolution discussion</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Notice_of_Dispute_resolution_discussion_2-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Bulgaria_dispute" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Bulgaria_dispute"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">111</span> <span>Bulgaria dispute</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">5 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Bulgaria_dispute-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Bulgaria_Dispute_-_Official_Complaint" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Bulgaria_Dispute_-_Official_Complaint"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">112</span> <span>Bulgaria Dispute - Official Complaint</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Bulgaria_Dispute_-_Official_Complaint-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Formal_mediation_has_been_requested" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Formal_mediation_has_been_requested"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">113</span> <span>Formal mediation has been requested</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Formal_mediation_has_been_requested-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Request_for_mediation_rejected" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Request_for_mediation_rejected"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">114</span> <span>Request for mediation rejected</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Request_for_mediation_rejected-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Bulgaria_-_Info_Box_-_Request_for_Comment" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Bulgaria_-_Info_Box_-_Request_for_Comment"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">115</span> <span>Bulgaria - Info Box - Request for Comment</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Bulgaria_-_Info_Box_-_Request_for_Comment-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Self-Determination" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Self-Determination"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">116</span> <span>Self-Determination</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">2 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Self-Determination-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Possibly_unfree_File:Arda.jpg" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Possibly_unfree_File:Arda.jpg"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span 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<ul id="toc-The_Bulgaria_article-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Compromise_versions" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Compromise_versions"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">120</span> <span>Compromise versions</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">4 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Compromise_versions-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Disambiguation_link_notification_for_November_4" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Disambiguation_link_notification_for_November_4"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">121</span> <span>Disambiguation link notification for November 4</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Disambiguation_link_notification_for_November_4-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Thank_You_for_the_Wikipedia_Pictures" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Thank_You_for_the_Wikipedia_Pictures"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">122</span> <span>Thank You for the Wikipedia Pictures</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Thank_You_for_the_Wikipedia_Pictures-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Disambiguation_link_notification_for_January_11" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Disambiguation_link_notification_for_January_11"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">123</span> <span>Disambiguation link notification for January 11</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Disambiguation_link_notification_for_January_11-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-On_EU_neutrality" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#On_EU_neutrality"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">124</span> <span>On EU neutrality</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">2 comments</span> <ul id="toc-On_EU_neutrality-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Disambiguation_link_notification_for_March_8" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Disambiguation_link_notification_for_March_8"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">125</span> <span>Disambiguation link notification for March 8</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">2 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Disambiguation_link_notification_for_March_8-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Disambiguation_link_notification_for_March_15" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a 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class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-File:Elias-Riggs.jpg_missing_description_details" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#File:Elias-Riggs.jpg_missing_description_details"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">128</span> <span>File:Elias-Riggs.jpg missing description details</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-File:Elias-Riggs.jpg_missing_description_details-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Please_comment" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Please_comment"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">129</span> <span>Please comment</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Please_comment-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-COI_and_username" class="vector-toc-list-item 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id="toc-Falkland_Islands-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Formalising_the_status_of_WP:FALKLANDSUNITS" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Formalising_the_status_of_WP:FALKLANDSUNITS"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">135</span> <span>Formalising the status of WP:FALKLANDSUNITS</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Formalising_the_status_of_WP:FALKLANDSUNITS-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Possibly_unfree_File:Avitohol.jpg" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Possibly_unfree_File:Avitohol.jpg"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">136</span> <span>Possibly unfree File:Avitohol.jpg</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">2 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Possibly_unfree_File:Avitohol.jpg-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Possibly_unfree_File:Aytos.jpg" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Possibly_unfree_File:Aytos.jpg"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">137</span> <span>Possibly unfree File:Aytos.jpg</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">2 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Possibly_unfree_File:Aytos.jpg-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-AN_Notice" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#AN_Notice"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">138</span> <span>AN Notice</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-AN_Notice-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Falkland_Islands_award" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Falkland_Islands_award"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">139</span> <span>Falkland Islands award</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Falkland_Islands_award-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Disambiguation_link_notification_for_November_9" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Disambiguation_link_notification_for_November_9"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">140</span> <span>Disambiguation link notification for November 9</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">2 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Disambiguation_link_notification_for_November_9-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Notice_of_Edit_warring_noticeboard_discussion" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Notice_of_Edit_warring_noticeboard_discussion"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">141</span> <span>Notice of Edit warring noticeboard discussion</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Notice_of_Edit_warring_noticeboard_discussion-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-November_2013" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#November_2013"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">142</span> <span>November 2013</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">4 comments</span> <ul id="toc-November_2013-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Re:_Falklands_Article_consensus" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Re:_Falklands_Article_consensus"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">143</span> <span>Re: Falklands Article consensus</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">2 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Re:_Falklands_Article_consensus-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Disambiguation_link_notification_for_November_27" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Disambiguation_link_notification_for_November_27"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">144</span> <span>Disambiguation link notification for November 27</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">2 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Disambiguation_link_notification_for_November_27-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Notification_of_automated_file_description_generation" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Notification_of_automated_file_description_generation"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">145</span> <span>Notification of automated file description generation</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">9 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Notification_of_automated_file_description_generation-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Thank_you" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Thank_you"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">146</span> <span>Thank you</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">2 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Thank_you-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Disambiguation_link_notification_for_February_19" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Disambiguation_link_notification_for_February_19"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">147</span> <span>Disambiguation link notification for February 19</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">2 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Disambiguation_link_notification_for_February_19-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Copyedit_review" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Copyedit_review"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">148</span> <span>Copyedit review</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">2 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Copyedit_review-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Heads" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Heads"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">149</span> <span>Heads</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Heads-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Heads_Up" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Heads_Up"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">150</span> <span>Heads Up</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Heads_Up-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Да_се_знае" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Да_се_знае"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">151</span> <span>Да се знае</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Да_се_знае-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Proposed_deletion_of_Ash_Point" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Proposed_deletion_of_Ash_Point"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">152</span> <span>Proposed deletion of Ash Point</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">2 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Proposed_deletion_of_Ash_Point-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Disambiguation_link_notification_for_December_8" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Disambiguation_link_notification_for_December_8"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">153</span> <span>Disambiguation link notification for December 8</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">2 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Disambiguation_link_notification_for_December_8-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Disambiguation_link_notification_for_January_19" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Disambiguation_link_notification_for_January_19"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">154</span> <span>Disambiguation link notification for January 19</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">2 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Disambiguation_link_notification_for_January_19-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Disambiguation_link_notification_for_October_18" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Disambiguation_link_notification_for_October_18"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">155</span> <span>Disambiguation link notification for October 18</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">2 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Disambiguation_link_notification_for_October_18-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-New_categories" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#New_categories"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">156</span> <span>New categories</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">2 comments</span> <ul id="toc-New_categories-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-ArbCom_elections_are_now_open!" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#ArbCom_elections_are_now_open!"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">157</span> <span>ArbCom elections are now open!</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-ArbCom_elections_are_now_open!-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Proposed_deletion_of_Kingdom_of_Balhara" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Proposed_deletion_of_Kingdom_of_Balhara"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">158</span> <span>Proposed deletion of Kingdom of Balhara</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Proposed_deletion_of_Kingdom_of_Balhara-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-First_Bulgarian_Empire_Map" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#First_Bulgarian_Empire_Map"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">159</span> <span>First Bulgarian Empire Map</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">2 comments</span> <ul id="toc-First_Bulgarian_Empire_Map-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Srebŭrna/Srebarna/Sreburna_Glacier" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Srebŭrna/Srebarna/Sreburna_Glacier"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">160</span> <span>Srebŭrna/Srebarna/Sreburna Glacier</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">4 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Srebŭrna/Srebarna/Sreburna_Glacier-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Bulgaria_-_Infobox" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Bulgaria_-_Infobox"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">161</span> <span>Bulgaria - Infobox</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Bulgaria_-_Infobox-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-February_2016" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#February_2016"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">162</span> <span>February 2016</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">2 comments</span> <ul id="toc-February_2016-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Falkland_Islands_Sovereignty_Dispute_~_Clarification" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Falkland_Islands_Sovereignty_Dispute_~_Clarification"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">163</span> <span>Falkland Islands Sovereignty Dispute ~ Clarification</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">4 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Falkland_Islands_Sovereignty_Dispute_~_Clarification-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Invitation_to_discuss_on_Wikipedia:Naming_conventions_(Cyrillic)" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Invitation_to_discuss_on_Wikipedia:Naming_conventions_(Cyrillic)"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">164</span> <span>Invitation to discuss on Wikipedia:Naming conventions (Cyrillic)</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Invitation_to_discuss_on_Wikipedia:Naming_conventions_(Cyrillic)-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-File:Leslie-Livingston.jpg_listed_for_discussion" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#File:Leslie-Livingston.jpg_listed_for_discussion"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">165</span> <span>File:Leslie-Livingston.jpg listed for discussion</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">2 comments</span> <ul id="toc-File:Leslie-Livingston.jpg_listed_for_discussion-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-File:Silistra-Livingston.jpg_listed_for_discussion" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#File:Silistra-Livingston.jpg_listed_for_discussion"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">166</span> <span>File:Silistra-Livingston.jpg listed for discussion</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">2 comments</span> <ul id="toc-File:Silistra-Livingston.jpg_listed_for_discussion-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Disambiguation_link_notification_for_June_17" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Disambiguation_link_notification_for_June_17"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">167</span> <span>Disambiguation link notification for June 17</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Disambiguation_link_notification_for_June_17-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-File_source_problem_with_File:Ohridski-Mount.jpg" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#File_source_problem_with_File:Ohridski-Mount.jpg"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">168</span> <span>File source problem with File:Ohridski-Mount.jpg</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">2 comments</span> <ul id="toc-File_source_problem_with_File:Ohridski-Mount.jpg-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-File_permission_problem_with_File:Atanasoff-Location.JPG" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#File_permission_problem_with_File:Atanasoff-Location.JPG"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">169</span> <span>File permission problem with File:Atanasoff-Location.JPG</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">2 comments</span> <ul id="toc-File_permission_problem_with_File:Atanasoff-Location.JPG-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-InternetArchiveBot" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#InternetArchiveBot"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">170</span> <span>InternetArchiveBot</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">2 comments</span> <ul id="toc-InternetArchiveBot-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-ArbCom_Elections_2016:_Voting_now_open!" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#ArbCom_Elections_2016:_Voting_now_open!"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">171</span> <span>ArbCom Elections 2016: Voting now open!</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-ArbCom_Elections_2016:_Voting_now_open!-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Disambiguation_link_notification_for_April_21" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Disambiguation_link_notification_for_April_21"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">172</span> <span>Disambiguation link notification for April 21</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">2 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Disambiguation_link_notification_for_April_21-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-ArbCom_2017_election_voter_message" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#ArbCom_2017_election_voter_message"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">173</span> <span>ArbCom 2017 election voter message</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-ArbCom_2017_election_voter_message-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Parvomay_Neck" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Parvomay_Neck"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">174</span> <span>Parvomay Neck</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">2 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Parvomay_Neck-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Disambiguation_link_notification_for_December_14" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Disambiguation_link_notification_for_December_14"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">175</span> <span>Disambiguation link notification for December 14</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Disambiguation_link_notification_for_December_14-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Maps" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Maps"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">176</span> <span>Maps</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">6 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Maps-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Disambiguation_link_notification_for_April_13" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Disambiguation_link_notification_for_April_13"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">177</span> <span>Disambiguation link notification for April 13</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">2 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Disambiguation_link_notification_for_April_13-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-DYK_nomination_of_Weddell_Island" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#DYK_nomination_of_Weddell_Island"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">178</span> <span>DYK nomination of Weddell Island</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">2 comments</span> <ul id="toc-DYK_nomination_of_Weddell_Island-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Disambiguation_link_notification_for_June_18" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Disambiguation_link_notification_for_June_18"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">179</span> <span>Disambiguation link notification for June 18</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">2 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Disambiguation_link_notification_for_June_18-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-your_revert_[18]" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#your_revert_[18]"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">180</span> <span>your revert [18]</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-your_revert_[18]-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-ArbCom_2018_election_voter_message" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#ArbCom_2018_election_voter_message"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">181</span> <span>ArbCom 2018 election voter message</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-ArbCom_2018_election_voter_message-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-ArbCom_2018_election_voter_message_2" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#ArbCom_2018_election_voter_message_2"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">182</span> <span>ArbCom 2018 election voter message</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-ArbCom_2018_election_voter_message_2-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Disambiguation_link_notification_for_December_30" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Disambiguation_link_notification_for_December_30"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">183</span> <span>Disambiguation link notification for December 30</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">2 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Disambiguation_link_notification_for_December_30-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Ways_to_improve_Sofia_Peak" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Ways_to_improve_Sofia_Peak"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">184</span> <span>Ways to improve Sofia Peak</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">2 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Ways_to_improve_Sofia_Peak-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Ways_to_improve_Pimpirev_Peak" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Ways_to_improve_Pimpirev_Peak"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">185</span> <span>Ways to improve Pimpirev Peak</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">2 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Ways_to_improve_Pimpirev_Peak-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Copernix.io?" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Copernix.io?"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">186</span> <span>Copernix.io?</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">2 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Copernix.io?-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Category:Ocean_Fisheries_–_Burgas_Co" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Category:Ocean_Fisheries_–_Burgas_Co"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">187</span> <span>Category:Ocean Fisheries – Burgas Co</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">4 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Category:Ocean_Fisheries_–_Burgas_Co-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Language_and_IPA" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Language_and_IPA"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">188</span> <span>Language and IPA</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">7 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Language_and_IPA-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-ArbCom_2019_election_voter_message" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#ArbCom_2019_election_voter_message"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">189</span> <span>ArbCom 2019 election voter message</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-ArbCom_2019_election_voter_message-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Disambiguation_link_notification_for_November_19" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Disambiguation_link_notification_for_November_19"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">190</span> <span>Disambiguation link notification for November 19</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">2 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Disambiguation_link_notification_for_November_19-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Disambiguation_link_notification_for_November_26" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Disambiguation_link_notification_for_November_26"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">191</span> <span>Disambiguation link notification for November 26</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">2 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Disambiguation_link_notification_for_November_26-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Disambiguation_link_notification_for_February_1" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Disambiguation_link_notification_for_February_1"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">192</span> <span>Disambiguation link notification for February 1</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">2 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Disambiguation_link_notification_for_February_1-sublist" 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Could you combine these articles into one, rather than having several articles that are not tied together in any way? Thanks! --<a href="/wiki/User:Bugturd" class="mw-redirect" title="User:Bugturd">Bugturd</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Apcbg#c-Bugturd-2006-01-30T00:52:00.000Z-Combining_articles" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:52, 30 January 2006 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Bugturd-2006-01-30T00:52:00.000Z-Combining_articles"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Bugturd-2006-01-30T00:52:00.000Z-Combining_articles"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Rory096-2006-01-30T03:48:00.000Z-Bugturd-2006-01-30T00:52:00.000Z"></span>I agree, perhaps you could make one large article with all of these places inside them, rather than dozens of articles. <a href="/wiki/User:Rory096" title="User:Rory096">Rory096</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Apcbg#c-Rory096-2006-01-30T03:48:00.000Z-Bugturd-2006-01-30T00:52:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">03:48, 30 January 2006 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Rory096-2006-01-30T03:48:00.000Z-Bugturd-2006-01-30T00:52:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Rory096-2006-01-30T03:48:00.000Z-Bugturd-2006-01-30T00:52:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Copyright" data-mw-thread-id="h-Copyright-2006-01-30T00:59:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Copyright-2006-01-30T00:59:00.000Z"></span>Copyright<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Copyright-2006-01-30T00:59:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Apcbg&action=edit&section=3" title="Edit section: Copyright"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Kappa-2006-01-30T00:59:00.000Z-Copyright"></span>Please don't copy directly from copyrighted sources, like <a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="http://apc.mfa.government.bg/peaks/elena.htm">http://apc.mfa.government.bg/peaks/elena.htm</a> , these contributions will have to be deleted. <a href="/wiki/User:Kappa" class="mw-redirect" title="User:Kappa">Kappa</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Apcbg#c-Kappa-2006-01-30T00:59:00.000Z-Copyright" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:59, 30 January 2006 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Kappa-2006-01-30T00:59:00.000Z-Copyright"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Kappa-2006-01-30T00:59:00.000Z-Copyright"></span> </p><p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-AJR-2006-01-30T02:04:00.000Z-Copyright"></span>--- Yes I can confirm the permission to freely use this material published by the website of the Antarctic Place-names Commission of Bulgaria, <a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="http://apc.mfa.government.bg/">http://apc.mfa.government.bg/</a> and also in the SCAR Composite Gazetteer of Antarctica website <a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="http://www.pnra.it/SCAR_GAZE">http://www.pnra.it/SCAR_GAZE</a>. </p><p>Dr. Lyubomir Ivanov Chairman Antarctic Place-names Commission of Bulgaria apcbg@yahoo.com </p> <dl><dd>Wonderful. It would be helpful if you can confirm this, either by putting a message on the website somewhere or by sending an email to permissions (at) wikimedia.org. Thanks, <a href="/wiki/User:AJR" title="User:AJR">AJR</a> | <a href="/wiki/User_talk:AJR" title="User talk:AJR">Talk</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Apcbg#c-AJR-2006-01-30T02:04:00.000Z-Copyright" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">02:04, 30 January 2006 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-AJR-2006-01-30T02:04:00.000Z-Copyright"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-AJR-2006-01-30T02:04:00.000Z-Copyright"></span></dd></dl> <p><br/> Message to permissions (at) wikimedia.org sent. Apcbg. </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Formatting_Nesebar_Gap_and_others" data-mw-thread-id="h-Formatting_Nesebar_Gap_and_others-2006-01-30T10:10:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Formatting_Nesebar_Gap_and_others-2006-01-30T10:10:00.000Z"></span>Formatting <a href="/wiki/Nesebar_Gap" title="Nesebar Gap">Nesebar Gap</a> and others<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Formatting_Nesebar_Gap_and_others-2006-01-30T10:10:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Apcbg&action=edit&section=4" title="Edit section: Formatting Nesebar Gap and others"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Enochlau-2006-01-30T10:10:00.000Z-Formatting_Nesebar_Gap_and_others"></span>Hi there! It's great to see that Wikipedia has permission to include this content into the encyclopedia. However, they are currently not very formatted - for example, see <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Guide_to_layout" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:Guide to layout">Wikipedia:Guide to layout</a>. If you don't want to do the formatting just yet, or you would like someone to help you with it, please add the {{wikify}} tag to the end of the page, to mark it down as needing formatting. Thanks. <a href="/wiki/User:Enochlau" title="User:Enochlau">enochlau</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Enochlau" title="User talk:Enochlau">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Apcbg#c-Enochlau-2006-01-30T10:10:00.000Z-Formatting_Nesebar_Gap_and_others" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:10, 30 January 2006 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Enochlau-2006-01-30T10:10:00.000Z-Formatting_Nesebar_Gap_and_others"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Enochlau-2006-01-30T10:10:00.000Z-Formatting_Nesebar_Gap_and_others"></span> </p><p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-NickelShoe-2006-01-31T19:18:00.000Z-Formatting_Nesebar_Gap_and_others"></span>Thanks, Apcbg. </p> <dl><dd>Something helpful would be to write an introductory sentence saying <b>Nesebar Gap</b> is a such-and-such geographical feature found in such-and-such a place. As the article stands, I'm not quite sure what it is... <a href="/wiki/User:NickelShoe" title="User:NickelShoe">NickelShoe</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Apcbg#c-NickelShoe-2006-01-31T19:18:00.000Z-Formatting_Nesebar_Gap_and_others" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:18, 31 January 2006 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-NickelShoe-2006-01-31T19:18:00.000Z-Formatting_Nesebar_Gap_and_others"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-NickelShoe-2006-01-31T19:18:00.000Z-Formatting_Nesebar_Gap_and_others"></span></dd></dl> <p>You are quite right I guess. The present first sentence reading "The 1.3 km wide gap in eastern Livingston Island bounded to the W by Pliska Ridge and to the E by the northern slope of Mount Friesland, Tangra Mountains" is communicating precisely what you ask for: the feature is a gap (i.e. "depression in a range of mountains or hills"), and is situated on Livingston Island. Its clumsy phrasing however could be streamlined; judging from the first articles in this series formatted by Kcordina I expect that in this case he/she may improve the text by probably splitting the sentence in two, adding 'Antarctica' after 'Livingston Island' etc. </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Map_sources" data-mw-thread-id="h-Map_sources-2006-01-30T12:12:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Map_sources-2006-01-30T12:12:00.000Z"></span>Map sources<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Map_sources-2006-01-30T12:12:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Apcbg&action=edit&section=5" title="Edit section: Map sources"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-RHaworth-2006-01-30T12:12:00.000Z-Map_sources"></span>Here we are, all offering you helpful suggestions. Mine is: it does not need much extra keying to turn a naked lat and long into a link to Egil's map sources page - see <a href="/wiki/Razlog_Cove" title="Razlog Cove">Razlog Cove</a>. Not only do you get map links straight away but within a few days, the articles will be indexed by <a href="/w/index.php?title=Pintomap&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Pintomap (page does not exist)">Pintomap</a>. -- <a href="/wiki/User:RHaworth" title="User:RHaworth">RHaworth</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Apcbg#c-RHaworth-2006-01-30T12:12:00.000Z-Map_sources" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:12, 30 January 2006 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-RHaworth-2006-01-30T12:12:00.000Z-Map_sources"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-RHaworth-2006-01-30T12:12:00.000Z-Map_sources"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Peaks" data-mw-thread-id="h-Peaks-2006-01-30T20:00:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Peaks-2006-01-30T20:00:00.000Z"></span>Peaks<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Peaks-2006-01-30T20:00:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Apcbg&action=edit&section=6" title="Edit section: Peaks"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Esprit15d-2006-01-30T20:00:00.000Z-Peaks"></span>Hello Apcbg. I see that you are making a lot of contributions regarding some geological peaks, which is very interesting, and apparently missing here at wikipedia. But, I just wanted to leave you a suggestion that will make you stay here at wikipedia much more enjoyable. Copying information from other sites verbatim tips off the myriad of editors and admins here that a copyright violation has occurred. So, despite the fact that you have mentioned that you are permitted to copy it - it will probably keep getting tagged until you do one of (and preferably a combination) of the following things: (1) make some kind of notation of this in the talk pages of the various new pages you're creating (along with proof that this is true). You can put the same thing on every talk page - that's fine. Also (2) Reword the information. Wikipedia favors prose over lists and bullets, and so it is important that you turn these into readable <i>articles</i>. Not only would this <i>eliminate</i> the copyright issue, but would avoid the articles getting tagged for other reasons (like needing cleanup or needing to be wikified). Perhaps you can illicit a buddy to help you with the project, as there may be someone here at wikipedia who shares your interest. I would recommend visiting articles on related topics and seeing who else is working on similar articles. Regardless, I hope these suggestions will minimize your copyright issues and leave you more time to do what you <i>want</i> to do, which is spread knowledge about these beautiful peaks.--<a href="/wiki/User:Esprit15d" title="User:Esprit15d">Esprit15d</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Apcbg#c-Esprit15d-2006-01-30T20:00:00.000Z-Peaks" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:00, 30 January 2006 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Esprit15d-2006-01-30T20:00:00.000Z-Peaks"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Esprit15d-2006-01-30T20:00:00.000Z-Peaks"></span> </p> <ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-RHaworth-2006-01-30T21:38:00.000Z-Esprit15d-2006-01-30T20:00:00.000Z"></span>Putting a note on every talk page is a bit long winded - better to have a template common to each article - <a href="/wiki/Template:Bulgarian-named_Antarctic_place" title="Template:Bulgarian-named Antarctic place">template:Bulgarian-named Antarctic place</a> is a bit long-winded but quite specific. This would provide a link to the article that <b>lists</b> all these places (you do have a list don't you?). An HTML comment or <noinclude> note in the template can give the copyright release details. -- <a href="/wiki/User:RHaworth" title="User:RHaworth">RHaworth</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Apcbg#c-RHaworth-2006-01-30T21:38:00.000Z-Esprit15d-2006-01-30T20:00:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:38, 30 January 2006 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-RHaworth-2006-01-30T21:38:00.000Z-Esprit15d-2006-01-30T20:00:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-RHaworth-2006-01-30T21:38:00.000Z-Esprit15d-2006-01-30T20:00:00.000Z"></span></li></ul> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="New_articles_(yet_again)" data-mw-thread-id="h-New_articles_(yet_again)-2006-01-30T21:42:00.000Z"><span id="New_articles_.28yet_again.29"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-New_articles_(yet_again)-2006-01-30T21:42:00.000Z"></span>New articles (yet again)<span data-mw-comment-end="h-New_articles_(yet_again)-2006-01-30T21:42:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Apcbg&action=edit&section=7" title="Edit section: New articles (yet again)"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Mel_Etitis-2006-01-30T21:42:00.000Z-New_articles_(yet_again)"></span>While we're pleased to have new articles, you are refusing (depite numerous requests and helpful advice) to dio <i>anything</i> in the way of formatting them correctly. This causes other editors a great deal of work. <i><b>Please</b></i> learn how to present a Wikipedia article and edit accordingly. --<a href="/wiki/User:Mel_Etitis" title="User:Mel Etitis">Mel Etitis</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Mel_Etitis" title="User talk:Mel Etitis"><span style="color:green;">Μελ Ετητης</span></a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Apcbg#c-Mel_Etitis-2006-01-30T21:42:00.000Z-New_articles_(yet_again)" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:42, 30 January 2006 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Mel_Etitis-2006-01-30T21:42:00.000Z-New_articles_(yet_again)"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Mel_Etitis-2006-01-30T21:42:00.000Z-New_articles_(yet_again)"></span> </p><p><br/><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Apcbg-2006-01-31T08:10:00.000Z-New_articles_(yet_again)"></span> Unfortunately, some of the relevant articles are yet to be un-tagged to become editable. <a href="/wiki/User:Apcbg" title="User:Apcbg">Apcbg</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Apcbg#c-Apcbg-2006-01-31T08:10:00.000Z-New_articles_(yet_again)" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">08:10, 31 January 2006 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Apcbg-2006-01-31T08:10:00.000Z-New_articles_(yet_again)"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Apcbg-2006-01-31T08:10:00.000Z-New_articles_(yet_again)"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Mel_Etitis-2006-01-31T09:51:00.000Z-Apcbg-2006-01-31T08:10:00.000Z"></span>I don't understand. Moreover I was referring to the string of new articles that you created, all unformmatted just like the previous ones. --<a href="/wiki/User:Mel_Etitis" title="User:Mel Etitis">Mel Etitis</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Mel_Etitis" title="User talk:Mel Etitis"><span style="color:green;">Μελ Ετητης</span></a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Apcbg#c-Mel_Etitis-2006-01-31T09:51:00.000Z-Apcbg-2006-01-31T08:10:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:51, 31 January 2006 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Mel_Etitis-2006-01-31T09:51:00.000Z-Apcbg-2006-01-31T08:10:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Mel_Etitis-2006-01-31T09:51:00.000Z-Apcbg-2006-01-31T08:10:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Apcbg-2006-01-31T10:21:00.000Z-New_articles_(yet_again)"></span>Wikification is something new to me; maybe I'll try first an approximation like e.g. the current version of <a href="/wiki/Academia_Peak" title="Academia Peak">Academia Peak</a> then possibly improve it towards the standards here and take into account some useful suggestions made above.<a href="/wiki/User:Apcbg" title="User:Apcbg">Apcbg</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Apcbg#c-Apcbg-2006-01-31T10:21:00.000Z-New_articles_(yet_again)" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:21, 31 January 2006 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Apcbg-2006-01-31T10:21:00.000Z-New_articles_(yet_again)"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Apcbg-2006-01-31T10:21:00.000Z-New_articles_(yet_again)"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Welcome_&_help_offer" data-mw-thread-id="h-Welcome_&_help_offer-2006-01-31T14:32:00.000Z"><span id="Welcome_.26_help_offer"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Welcome_&_help_offer-2006-01-31T14:32:00.000Z"></span>Welcome & help offer<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Welcome_&_help_offer-2006-01-31T14:32:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Apcbg&action=edit&section=8" title="Edit section: Welcome & help offer"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Kcordina-2006-01-31T14:32:00.000Z-Welcome_&_help_offer"></span>Hi. Firstly, well done on an impressive set of contributions - loads of good information there. I'm happy to work through them and copyedit them into the wikipedia 'style' and tidy up, and have started doing so on <a href="/wiki/Arda_Peak" title="Arda Peak">Arda Peak</a> (+ <a href="/wiki/Asparuh_Peak" title="Asparuh Peak">Asparuh Peak</a> and <a href="/wiki/Asen_Peak" title="Asen Peak">Asen Peak</a>), . I'm not an expert on the subject though, so please check them to make sure I don't introduce any errors. I'm a firm believer that people should contribute what they know best - you clearly know your geography, so if you get the information on here, I'll format it! <a href="/wiki/User:Kcordina" title="User:Kcordina">Kcordina</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Apcbg#c-Kcordina-2006-01-31T14:32:00.000Z-Welcome_&_help_offer" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:32, 31 January 2006 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Kcordina-2006-01-31T14:32:00.000Z-Welcome_&_help_offer"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Kcordina-2006-01-31T14:32:00.000Z-Welcome_&_help_offer"></span> </p><p><b><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Apcbg-2006-01-31T19:51:00.000Z-Welcome_&_help_offer"></span>Dear Kcordina</b>, great thanks for the kind offer! Your intervention is most welcome and appreciated indeed. The edited articles are okay. Perhaps the directions would be better spelled with lower case initials and fewer hyphens (south, southeast, east-southeast etc.). The phrase about the mapping that you seem to have removed is actually about the first mapping of the feature -- an information that might or might not be worth keeping in the text. <a href="/wiki/User:Apcbg" title="User:Apcbg">Apcbg</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Apcbg#c-Apcbg-2006-01-31T19:51:00.000Z-Welcome_&_help_offer" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:51, 31 January 2006 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Apcbg-2006-01-31T19:51:00.000Z-Welcome_&_help_offer"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Apcbg-2006-01-31T19:51:00.000Z-Welcome_&_help_offer"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Kcordina-2006-02-01T09:04:00.000Z-Apcbg-2006-01-31T19:51:00.000Z"></span>Glad they're OK! I'll retain the note about the first mapping. I couldn't decide whether North/South etc had capitals or not, I'll leave them out from now. When having a conversation via talk pages it's easier if you leave a message on the other persons talk page, then they get a note letting them know that someone has said something to them - it's a bit odd as it means the two halves of a conversation are in different places, but seems to work best that way. <a href="/wiki/User:Kcordina" title="User:Kcordina">Kcordina</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Apcbg#c-Kcordina-2006-02-01T09:04:00.000Z-Apcbg-2006-01-31T19:51:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:04, 1 February 2006 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Kcordina-2006-02-01T09:04:00.000Z-Apcbg-2006-01-31T19:51:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Kcordina-2006-02-01T09:04:00.000Z-Apcbg-2006-01-31T19:51:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Kcordina-2006-02-01T11:28:00.000Z-Welcome_&_help_offer"></span>Yes, I agree the pictures & pointers will be good additions to the articles. Check out the procedure for uploading them and sorting the copyright, rightly that is something that wikipedia insists is done correctly. <a href="/wiki/User:Kcordina" title="User:Kcordina">Kcordina</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Apcbg#c-Kcordina-2006-02-01T11:28:00.000Z-Welcome_&_help_offer" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:28, 1 February 2006 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Kcordina-2006-02-01T11:28:00.000Z-Welcome_&_help_offer"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Kcordina-2006-02-01T11:28:00.000Z-Welcome_&_help_offer"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Nothanks" data-mw-thread-id="h-Nothanks-2006-02-11T18:31:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Nothanks-2006-02-11T18:31:00.000Z"></span>Nothanks<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Nothanks-2006-02-11T18:31:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Apcbg&action=edit&section=9" title="Edit section: Nothanks"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-SoothingR-2006-02-11T18:31:00.000Z-Nothanks"></span>Hello, and <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Welcome,_newcomers" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:Welcome, newcomers">welcome to Wikipedia</a>! We welcome and appreciate your contributions, such as <a href="/wiki/Kresna_Gully" title="Kresna Gully">Kresna Gully</a>, but we cannot accept <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Copyrights" title="Wikipedia:Copyrights">copyrighted</a> text or images borrowed from either web sites or printed material. Perhaps you would like to rewrite the article in your own words. For more information about Wikipedia's policies and guidelines, take a look at our <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Five_pillars" title="Wikipedia:Five pillars">Five Pillars</a>. Happy editing! <span class="mw-default-size" typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Weather_rain.png" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/3b/Weather_rain.png" decoding="async" width="16" height="16" class="mw-file-element" data-file-width="16" data-file-height="16"/></a></span><b><a href="/wiki/User:SoothingR" class="mw-redirect" title="User:SoothingR"><span style="color:#AAAAAA;">Soothing</span></a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:SoothingR" class="mw-redirect" title="User talk:SoothingR"><span style="color:#9AB9EB;"><i>R</i></span></a></b> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Apcbg#c-SoothingR-2006-02-11T18:31:00.000Z-Nothanks" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:31, 11 February 2006 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-SoothingR-2006-02-11T18:31:00.000Z-Nothanks"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-SoothingR-2006-02-11T18:31:00.000Z-Nothanks"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-SoothingR-2006-02-16T22:00:00.000Z-SoothingR-2006-02-11T18:31:00.000Z"></span>Thanks for your response, although for future reference I would like to ask you not to post any new messages on <a href="/wiki/User:SoothingR" class="mw-redirect" title="User:SoothingR">my userpage</a>. Please use my <a href="/wiki/User_talk:SoothingR" class="mw-redirect" title="User talk:SoothingR">talkpage</a>. Anyway, yes, I recognized that <a href="/wiki/Kresna_Gully" title="Kresna Gully">Kresna Gully</a> was indeed a valid article. Hence is why I removed the <span class="nowrap">{{</span><a href="/wiki/Template:Copyvio" title="Template:Copyvio">copyvio</a><span class="nowrap">}}</span>-tag only 15 minutes after I initially put it up there. So, there's no need to worry :) your article stays. I apoligize for the confusion which I have brought up.<span class="mw-default-size" typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Weather_rain.png" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/3b/Weather_rain.png" decoding="async" width="16" height="16" class="mw-file-element" data-file-width="16" data-file-height="16"/></a></span><b><a href="/wiki/User:SoothingR" class="mw-redirect" title="User:SoothingR"><span style="color:#AAAAAA;">Soothing</span></a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:SoothingR" class="mw-redirect" title="User talk:SoothingR"><span style="color:#9AB9EB;"><i>R</i></span></a></b> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Apcbg#c-SoothingR-2006-02-16T22:00:00.000Z-SoothingR-2006-02-11T18:31:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:00, 16 February 2006 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-SoothingR-2006-02-16T22:00:00.000Z-SoothingR-2006-02-11T18:31:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-SoothingR-2006-02-16T22:00:00.000Z-SoothingR-2006-02-11T18:31:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="New_category" data-mw-thread-id="h-New_category-2006-02-20T16:45:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-New_category-2006-02-20T16:45:00.000Z"></span>New category<span data-mw-comment-end="h-New_category-2006-02-20T16:45:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Apcbg&action=edit&section=10" title="Edit section: New category"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-TodorBozhinov-2006-02-20T16:45:00.000Z-New_category"></span>Hello. I've created a <a href="/wiki/Category:Geography_of_Livingston_Island" title="Category:Geography of Livingston Island">Category:Geography of Livingston Island</a>, which is more suitable than the present one for the Bulgaria-related Antarctic articles you've contributed. Please add them to it, as I've added some, but they're so many I simply can't cope. <span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Flag_of_Bulgaria.svg" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/9a/Flag_of_Bulgaria.svg/20px-Flag_of_Bulgaria.svg.png" decoding="async" width="20" height="12" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/9a/Flag_of_Bulgaria.svg/30px-Flag_of_Bulgaria.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/9a/Flag_of_Bulgaria.svg/40px-Flag_of_Bulgaria.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="1000" data-file-height="600"/></a></span> <a href="/wiki/User:TodorBozhinov" title="User:TodorBozhinov">→ Тодор Божинов / Todor Bozhinov</a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:TodorBozhinov" title="User talk:TodorBozhinov">→</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Apcbg#c-TodorBozhinov-2006-02-20T16:45:00.000Z-New_category" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:45, 20 February 2006 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-TodorBozhinov-2006-02-20T16:45:00.000Z-New_category"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-TodorBozhinov-2006-02-20T16:45:00.000Z-New_category"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-TodorBozhinov-2006-02-20T19:03:00.000Z-TodorBozhinov-2006-02-20T16:45:00.000Z"></span>Здравей! Разбирам какво имаш предвид. За момента е създадена само категория "Geography of Livingston Island", но разбира се не е проблем и ще направим и такива за Alexander Island и Greenwich Island.</dd></dl> <dl><dd>Наистина е вярно, че статиите съчетават не само география, но и история, култура и топонимия, но така е също с голяма част от статиите за географски обекти като цяло, а тъкмо това разглеждат те. Просто такъв е принципът тук. Също трябва да отбележа, че липсата (засега) на статия или категория за историята на остров Ливингстън не е проблем (като асиметрия, например), защото в Уикипедия практиката е да се създават категории за всички по-тесни теми, където се насъбира голям брой статии, а в момента статиите за географията на Южните Шетландски острови са наистина доста като число, което налага да бъдат категоризирани по-точно, въпреки че историята не е застъпена отделно като категория. С Kcordina вече работим заедно по категоризацията, а на беседата ти исках да те уведомя за намеренията ни.</dd></dl> <dl><dd>Бих искал също да те поздравя за наистина чудесния принос — невероятно количество от статии, много от тях доста детайлни и с <b>наистина прекрасни</b> снимки, и то по тема, която все още е зле застъпена в Уикипедия, да не говорим за родолюбската гордост, че именно на българските обекти в Антарктика е обърнато такова голямо внимание. Щастлив съм, че ще продължаваш да допълваш с информация настоящи и бъдещи статии.</dd></dl> <dl><dd>Поздрави, <span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Flag_of_Bulgaria.svg" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/9a/Flag_of_Bulgaria.svg/20px-Flag_of_Bulgaria.svg.png" decoding="async" width="20" height="12" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/9a/Flag_of_Bulgaria.svg/30px-Flag_of_Bulgaria.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/9a/Flag_of_Bulgaria.svg/40px-Flag_of_Bulgaria.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="1000" data-file-height="600"/></a></span> <a href="/wiki/User:TodorBozhinov" title="User:TodorBozhinov">→ Тодор Божинов / Todor Bozhinov</a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:TodorBozhinov" title="User talk:TodorBozhinov">→</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Apcbg#c-TodorBozhinov-2006-02-20T19:03:00.000Z-TodorBozhinov-2006-02-20T16:45:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:03, 20 February 2006 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-TodorBozhinov-2006-02-20T19:03:00.000Z-TodorBozhinov-2006-02-20T16:45:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-TodorBozhinov-2006-02-20T19:03:00.000Z-TodorBozhinov-2006-02-20T16:45:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <p><br/> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Wikipedia:_If_it_ain't_broke_fix_it" data-mw-thread-id="h-Wikipedia:_If_it_ain't_broke_fix_it-2006-02-22T17:06:00.000Z"><span id="Wikipedia:_If_it_ain.27t_broke_fix_it"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Wikipedia:_If_it_ain't_broke_fix_it-2006-02-22T17:06:00.000Z"></span>Wikipedia: If it ain't broke fix it<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Wikipedia:_If_it_ain't_broke_fix_it-2006-02-22T17:06:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Apcbg&action=edit&section=11" title="Edit section: Wikipedia: If it ain't broke fix it"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Kcordina-2006-02-22T17:06:00.000Z-Wikipedia:_If_it_ain't_broke_fix_it"></span>Just for the record. A random check in few of the articles I have recently contributed would suggest that subsequent editing along with the overall improvement and wikification has on some occasions introduced factual inaccuracies or editorial styles disregarding established English spelling or punctuation practices (s.a. the replacement of decimal points by decimal commas). I am opening no discussion as apparently anyone is free to edit at will here; nor am I going to allocate precious time to proofreading modified texts that have been carefully verified more than once before. In other words: While I am obviously responsible for my original texts, I am not responsible for searching or correcting subsequent questionable amendments, however obvious these might be to me. </p> <dl><dd>A useful approach would be to politely point out the mistakes made by editors so they don't make them again. <a href="/wiki/User:Kcordina" title="User:Kcordina">Kcordina</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Apcbg#c-Kcordina-2006-02-22T17:06:00.000Z-Wikipedia:_If_it_ain't_broke_fix_it" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:06, 22 February 2006 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Kcordina-2006-02-22T17:06:00.000Z-Wikipedia:_If_it_ain't_broke_fix_it"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Kcordina-2006-02-22T17:06:00.000Z-Wikipedia:_If_it_ain't_broke_fix_it"></span></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Apcbg-2006-02-23T06:54:00.000Z-Kcordina-2006-02-22T17:06:00.000Z"></span>Dear Kcordina, like I wrote the above was but a disclaimer. Otherwise, you are welcome to contact me at apcbg@yahoo.com for further clarification. <a href="/wiki/User:Apcbg" title="User:Apcbg">Apcbg</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Apcbg#c-Apcbg-2006-02-23T06:54:00.000Z-Kcordina-2006-02-22T17:06:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">06:54, 23 February 2006 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Apcbg-2006-02-23T06:54:00.000Z-Kcordina-2006-02-22T17:06:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Apcbg-2006-02-23T06:54:00.000Z-Kcordina-2006-02-22T17:06:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Vazov_Point" data-mw-thread-id="h-Vazov_Point-2006-02-24T17:50:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Vazov_Point-2006-02-24T17:50:00.000Z"></span><a href="/wiki/Vazov_Point" title="Vazov Point">Vazov Point</a><span data-mw-comment-end="h-Vazov_Point-2006-02-24T17:50:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Apcbg&action=edit&section=12" title="Edit section: Vazov Point"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><a href="/wiki/Vazov_Point" title="Vazov Point"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-NickelShoe-2006-02-24T17:50:00.000Z-Vazov_Point"></span>Vazov Point</a> has been proposed for deletion. An editor thinks this geographical feature may not be notable enough for an article. Please see <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Notability" title="Wikipedia:Notability">Wikipedia:Notability</a> for the relevant concerns. <a href="/wiki/User:NickelShoe" title="User:NickelShoe">NickelShoe</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Apcbg#c-NickelShoe-2006-02-24T17:50:00.000Z-Vazov_Point" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:50, 24 February 2006 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-NickelShoe-2006-02-24T17:50:00.000Z-Vazov_Point"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-NickelShoe-2006-02-24T17:50:00.000Z-Vazov_Point"></span> </p> <dl><dd><a href="/wiki/Vazov_Rock" title="Vazov Rock"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Apcbg-2006-02-25T08:23:00.000Z-NickelShoe-2006-02-24T17:50:00.000Z"></span>Vazov Rock</a> too. <dl><dd>Dear NickelShoe, please see the talk pages to Vazov Point and Vazov Rock. Naturally, geographical features in Antarctica would have a relatively greater 'notability' than comparable features elsewhere because they account for nearly 100 per cent of all notable features on a given territory there. (As you can imagine this percentage would be pretty low e.g. in a city or a densely populated area where the man-made features dominate both in quantity and significance.) The 'notability' of an Antarctic geographical feature may be further enhanced by its relevance as a landmark in the course of field work or navigation, or if ice free. All this is taken into account when the relevant place-naming authorities decide whether some feature merits a name or not. <a href="/wiki/User:Apcbg" title="User:Apcbg">Apcbg</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Apcbg#c-Apcbg-2006-02-25T08:23:00.000Z-NickelShoe-2006-02-24T17:50:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">08:23, 25 February 2006 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Apcbg-2006-02-25T08:23:00.000Z-NickelShoe-2006-02-24T17:50:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Apcbg-2006-02-25T08:23:00.000Z-NickelShoe-2006-02-24T17:50:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-NickelShoe-2006-02-25T11:20:00.000Z-Apcbg-2006-02-25T08:23:00.000Z"></span>I'm not the one who thought they should be deleted; I'm the one who bothered to let you know about it. That's great that you explained it on the talk page, but you didn't need to leave a note in the article itself, so I took it out. You can put a message like "oppose deletion see talk" in your edit summary. <a href="/wiki/User:NickelShoe" title="User:NickelShoe">NickelShoe</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Apcbg#c-NickelShoe-2006-02-25T11:20:00.000Z-Apcbg-2006-02-25T08:23:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:20, 25 February 2006 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-NickelShoe-2006-02-25T11:20:00.000Z-Apcbg-2006-02-25T08:23:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-NickelShoe-2006-02-25T11:20:00.000Z-Apcbg-2006-02-25T08:23:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Antarctica" data-mw-thread-id="h-Antarctica-2006-03-06T14:20:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Antarctica-2006-03-06T14:20:00.000Z"></span>Antarctica<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Antarctica-2006-03-06T14:20:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Apcbg&action=edit&section=13" title="Edit section: Antarctica"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Gflores-2006-03-06T14:20:00.000Z-Antarctica"></span>Hi, thanks for the recent edit on <a href="/wiki/Antarctica" title="Antarctica">Antarctica</a> (about Solveig). However, would you happen to have a source or reference for it? While I don't doubt its accuracy, a reliable reference will reinforce that and is required for a <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:FA" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:FA">featured article</a>, such as Antarctica. Thanks! <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Gflores&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Gflores (page does not exist)">Gflores</a> <sup><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Gflores&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:Gflores (page does not exist)">Talk</a></sup> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Apcbg#c-Gflores-2006-03-06T14:20:00.000Z-Antarctica" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:20, 6 March 2006 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Gflores-2006-03-06T14:20:00.000Z-Antarctica"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Gflores-2006-03-06T14:20:00.000Z-Antarctica"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Gflores-2006-03-06T19:13:00.000Z-Gflores-2006-03-06T14:20:00.000Z"></span>Thanks for the quick fix. :) <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Gflores&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Gflores (page does not exist)">Gflores</a> <sup><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Gflores&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:Gflores (page does not exist)">Talk</a></sup> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Apcbg#c-Gflores-2006-03-06T19:13:00.000Z-Gflores-2006-03-06T14:20:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:13, 6 March 2006 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Gflores-2006-03-06T19:13:00.000Z-Gflores-2006-03-06T14:20:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Gflores-2006-03-06T19:13:00.000Z-Gflores-2006-03-06T14:20:00.000Z"></span></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Gflores-2006-03-06T19:38:00.000Z-Gflores-2006-03-06T14:20:00.000Z"></span>There is some discussion on the Population section of Antarctica on the <a href="/wiki/Talk:Antarctica" title="Talk:Antarctica">talk page</a>. <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Gflores&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Gflores (page does not exist)">Gflores</a> <sup><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Gflores&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:Gflores (page does not exist)">Talk</a></sup> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Apcbg#c-Gflores-2006-03-06T19:38:00.000Z-Gflores-2006-03-06T14:20:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:38, 6 March 2006 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Gflores-2006-03-06T19:38:00.000Z-Gflores-2006-03-06T14:20:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Gflores-2006-03-06T19:38:00.000Z-Gflores-2006-03-06T14:20:00.000Z"></span></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Fsotrain09-2006-05-07T22:13:00.000Z-Gflores-2006-03-06T14:20:00.000Z"></span>Thanks also for your references on the Solveig article. Little did I know what I was creating! ;). -<a href="/wiki/User:Fsotrain09" title="User:Fsotrain09">Fsotrain09</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Apcbg#c-Fsotrain09-2006-05-07T22:13:00.000Z-Gflores-2006-03-06T14:20:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:13, 7 May 2006 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Fsotrain09-2006-05-07T22:13:00.000Z-Gflores-2006-03-06T14:20:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Fsotrain09-2006-05-07T22:13:00.000Z-Gflores-2006-03-06T14:20:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Finished!" data-mw-thread-id="h-Finished!-2006-03-06T17:15:00.000Z"><span id="Finished.21"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Finished!-2006-03-06T17:15:00.000Z"></span>Finished!<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Finished!-2006-03-06T17:15:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Apcbg&action=edit&section=14" title="Edit section: Finished!"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Kcordina-2006-03-06T17:15:00.000Z-Finished!"></span>I think I have now tweaked all of the articles into some form of standard appearence, which hopefully leaves them standing as a good set of articles which can now be improved on further. Please let me know if I can be of any further assistance. <a href="/wiki/User:Kcordina" title="User:Kcordina">Kcordina</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Apcbg#c-Kcordina-2006-03-06T17:15:00.000Z-Finished!" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:15, 6 March 2006 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Kcordina-2006-03-06T17:15:00.000Z-Finished!"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Kcordina-2006-03-06T17:15:00.000Z-Finished!"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="St._Kliment_Ohridski" data-mw-thread-id="h-St._Kliment_Ohridski-2006-03-18T14:01:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-St._Kliment_Ohridski-2006-03-18T14:01:00.000Z"></span>St. Kliment Ohridski<span data-mw-comment-end="h-St._Kliment_Ohridski-2006-03-18T14:01:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Apcbg&action=edit&section=15" title="Edit section: St. Kliment Ohridski"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-TodorBozhinov-2006-03-18T14:01:00.000Z-St._Kliment_Ohridski"></span>The redirect is inappopriate. When someone enters <i>St. Kliment Ohridski</i> in the search engine, they would expect to find the article on <a href="/wiki/Clement_of_Ohrid" title="Clement of Ohrid">Clement of Ohrid</a>. The base is named <i>after</i> him and this, that means, should be clarified explicitly in the name of the article on the base. The name itself is OK, <a href="/wiki/St._Kliment_Ohridski_Base" title="St. Kliment Ohridski Base">St. Kliment Ohridski Base</a>, but the redirect itself is bad choice. If you find it necessary, I'll make changes to the article affected by the bad use of the name that are about 10, but undoing the change is inappropriate, unnecessary and, I believe, simply wrong. As for the other sites affected (Wikipedia mirrors?), they copy the Wikipedia database every once in a while, so you shouldn't bother about them too much. <span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Flag_of_Bulgaria.svg" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/9a/Flag_of_Bulgaria.svg/20px-Flag_of_Bulgaria.svg.png" decoding="async" width="20" height="12" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/9a/Flag_of_Bulgaria.svg/30px-Flag_of_Bulgaria.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/9a/Flag_of_Bulgaria.svg/40px-Flag_of_Bulgaria.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="1000" data-file-height="600"/></a></span> <a href="/wiki/User:TodorBozhinov" title="User:TodorBozhinov">→ Тодор Божинов / Todor Bozhinov</a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:TodorBozhinov" title="User talk:TodorBozhinov">→</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Apcbg#c-TodorBozhinov-2006-03-18T14:01:00.000Z-St._Kliment_Ohridski" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:01, 18 March 2006 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-TodorBozhinov-2006-03-18T14:01:00.000Z-St._Kliment_Ohridski"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-TodorBozhinov-2006-03-18T14:01:00.000Z-St._Kliment_Ohridski"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-TodorBozhinov-2006-03-18T14:36:00.000Z-TodorBozhinov-2006-03-18T14:01:00.000Z"></span>I'm sorry, but I don't actually see the why the <i>negative</i> effect to other sites of a <i>necessary</i> change in Wikipedia can be of any relevance to <i>undo</i> it. These sites should've not been pointing to a badly-chosen redirect page, for a starter, and it's actually a problem of theirs to solve, not ours. I only care about issues concerning Wikipedia when making changes here, and I believe this is the correct approach. <span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Flag_of_Bulgaria.svg" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/9a/Flag_of_Bulgaria.svg/20px-Flag_of_Bulgaria.svg.png" decoding="async" width="20" height="12" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/9a/Flag_of_Bulgaria.svg/30px-Flag_of_Bulgaria.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/9a/Flag_of_Bulgaria.svg/40px-Flag_of_Bulgaria.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="1000" data-file-height="600"/></a></span> <a href="/wiki/User:TodorBozhinov" title="User:TodorBozhinov">→ Тодор Божинов / Todor Bozhinov</a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:TodorBozhinov" title="User talk:TodorBozhinov">→</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Apcbg#c-TodorBozhinov-2006-03-18T14:36:00.000Z-TodorBozhinov-2006-03-18T14:01:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:36, 18 March 2006 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-TodorBozhinov-2006-03-18T14:36:00.000Z-TodorBozhinov-2006-03-18T14:01:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-TodorBozhinov-2006-03-18T14:36:00.000Z-TodorBozhinov-2006-03-18T14:01:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-TodorBozhinov-2006-03-18T16:04:00.000Z-TodorBozhinov-2006-03-18T14:36:00.000Z"></span>Yes, the name was unoccupied, but it should have been a redirect to <a href="/wiki/Clement_of_Ohrid" title="Clement of Ohrid">Clement of Ohrid</a> and now is. Those external sites should have linked to <a href="/wiki/St._Kliment_Ohridski_Base" title="St. Kliment Ohridski Base">St. Kliment Ohridski Base</a>, this is the valid article, not the redirect. If you have entered that badly-chosen address in those sites and now regret it, I have nothing to do with this. And actually, there might not have been a practical problem, but there was a logical one — the title <a href="/wiki/St._Kliment_Ohridski" class="mw-redirect" title="St. Kliment Ohridski">St. Kliment Ohridski</a> should not have ever redirected to the Antarctic base. As for the users and their access to the Bulgarian Antarctic base article, I already said the real damage is done by the individual who entered the address of an inappropriate redirect page in those sites. If this is you, then you should have given the matter somewhat more thought before acting. It is OK that you don't find any further discussion necessary, just don't blame me when I haven't done anything wrong, on the contrary. <span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Flag_of_Bulgaria.svg" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/9a/Flag_of_Bulgaria.svg/20px-Flag_of_Bulgaria.svg.png" decoding="async" width="20" height="12" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/9a/Flag_of_Bulgaria.svg/30px-Flag_of_Bulgaria.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/9a/Flag_of_Bulgaria.svg/40px-Flag_of_Bulgaria.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="1000" data-file-height="600"/></a></span> <a href="/wiki/User:TodorBozhinov" title="User:TodorBozhinov">→ Тодор Божинов / Todor Bozhinov</a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:TodorBozhinov" title="User talk:TodorBozhinov">→</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Apcbg#c-TodorBozhinov-2006-03-18T16:04:00.000Z-TodorBozhinov-2006-03-18T14:36:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:04, 18 March 2006 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-TodorBozhinov-2006-03-18T16:04:00.000Z-TodorBozhinov-2006-03-18T14:36:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-TodorBozhinov-2006-03-18T16:04:00.000Z-TodorBozhinov-2006-03-18T14:36:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <p><br/> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Image_Tagging_Image:Tarnovo-Livingston.jpg" data-mw-thread-id="h-Image_Tagging_Image:Tarnovo-Livingston.jpg-2006-03-28T23:52:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Image_Tagging_Image:Tarnovo-Livingston.jpg-2006-03-28T23:52:00.000Z"></span>Image Tagging <a href="/wiki/File:Tarnovo-Livingston.jpg" title="File:Tarnovo-Livingston.jpg">Image:Tarnovo-Livingston.jpg</a><span data-mw-comment-end="h-Image_Tagging_Image:Tarnovo-Livingston.jpg-2006-03-28T23:52:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Apcbg&action=edit&section=16" title="Edit section: Image Tagging Image:Tarnovo-Livingston.jpg"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Rebelguys2-2006-03-28T23:52:00.000Z-Image_Tagging_Image:Tarnovo-Livingston.jpg"></span>Thanks for uploading <b><a href="/wiki/File:Tarnovo-Livingston.jpg" title="File:Tarnovo-Livingston.jpg">Image:Tarnovo-Livingston.jpg</a></b>. I notice the 'image' page currently doesn't specify who created the content, so the <a href="/wiki/Copyright" title="Copyright">copyright</a> status is unclear. If you have not created this media yourself then there needs to be an argument why we have the right to use the media on Wikipedia (see copyright tagging below). If you have not created the media yourself then it needs to be specified where it was found, i.e., in most cases link to the website where it was taken from, and the terms of use for content from that page. </p><p>If the media also doesn't have a copyright tag then one should be added. If you created/took the picture, audio, or video then the <span class="nowrap">{{</span><a href="/wiki/Template:GFDL-self" title="Template:GFDL-self">GFDL-self</a><span class="nowrap">}}</span> tag can be used to release it under the <a href="/wiki/GFDL" class="mw-redirect" title="GFDL">GFDL</a>. If you believe the media qualifies as fair use, consider reading <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Fair_use" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:Fair use">fair use</a>, and then use a tag such as <span class="nowrap">{{<a href="/wiki/Template:Non-free_fair_use_in" class="mw-redirect" title="Template:Non-free fair use in">Non-free fair use in</a>|article name}}</span> or one of the other tags listed at <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Image_copyright_tags#Fair_use" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:Image copyright tags">Wikipedia:Image copyright tags#Fair_use</a>. See <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Image_copyright_tags" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:Image copyright tags">Wikipedia:Image copyright tags</a> for the full list of copyright tags that you can use. </p><p>If you have uploaded other media, consider checking that you have specified their source and copyright tagged them, too. You can find a list of 'image' pages you have edited by clicking on the "<a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Apcbg" title="Special:Contributions/Apcbg">my contributions</a>" link (it is located at the very top of any Wikipedia page when you are logged in), and then selecting "Image" from the dropdown box. Note that any unsourced and untagged images will be deleted one week after they have been uploaded, as described on <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Criteria_for_speedy_deletion#Images.2FMedia" title="Wikipedia:Criteria for speedy deletion">criteria for speedy deletion</a>. If you have any questions please ask them at the <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Image_legality_questions" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:Image legality questions">Image legality questions page</a>. Thank you. — <b><a href="/wiki/User:Rebelguys2" title="User:Rebelguys2">Rebelguys2</a></b> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Rebelguys2" title="User talk:Rebelguys2"><sup style="color:#CC5500;">talk</sup></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Apcbg#c-Rebelguys2-2006-03-28T23:52:00.000Z-Image_Tagging_Image:Tarnovo-Livingston.jpg" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:52, 28 March 2006 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Rebelguys2-2006-03-28T23:52:00.000Z-Image_Tagging_Image:Tarnovo-Livingston.jpg"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Rebelguys2-2006-03-28T23:52:00.000Z-Image_Tagging_Image:Tarnovo-Livingston.jpg"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Apcbg-2006-03-29T10:36:00.000Z-Image_Tagging_Image:Tarnovo-Livingston.jpg"></span>Both pictures image:Tarnovo-Livingston.jpg and image:kuzman.jpg are sourced</dd></dl> <style data-mw-deduplicate="TemplateStyles:r1237879475">.mw-parser-output .tmbox{margin:4px 0;border-collapse:collapse;border:1px solid #c0c090;background-color:#f8eaba;box-sizing:border-box}.mw-parser-output .tmbox.mbox-small{font-size:88%;line-height:1.25em}.mw-parser-output .tmbox-speedy{border:2px solid #b32424;background-color:#fee7e6}.mw-parser-output .tmbox-delete{border:2px solid #b32424}.mw-parser-output .tmbox-content{border:2px solid #f28500}.mw-parser-output .tmbox-style{border:2px solid #fc3}.mw-parser-output .tmbox-move{border:2px solid #9932cc}.mw-parser-output .tmbox .mbox-text{border:none;padding:0.25em 0.9em;width:100%}.mw-parser-output .tmbox .mbox-image{border:none;padding:2px 0 2px 0.9em;text-align:center}.mw-parser-output .tmbox .mbox-imageright{border:none;padding:2px 0.9em 2px 0;text-align:center}.mw-parser-output .tmbox .mbox-empty-cell{border:none;padding:0;width:1px}.mw-parser-output .tmbox .mbox-invalid-type{text-align:center}@media(min-width:720px){.mw-parser-output .tmbox{margin:4px 10%}.mw-parser-output .tmbox.mbox-small{clear:right;float:right;margin:4px 0 4px 1em;width:238px}}@media screen{html.skin-theme-clientpref-night .mw-parser-output .tmbox{background-color:#2e2505}html.skin-theme-clientpref-night .mw-parser-output .tmbox-speedy{background-color:#310402}}@media screen and (prefers-color-scheme:dark){html.skin-theme-clientpref-os .mw-parser-output .tmbox{background-color:#2e2505}html.skin-theme-clientpref-os .mw-parser-output .tmbox-speedy{background-color:#310402}}body.skin--responsive .mw-parser-output table.tmbox img{max-width:none!important}</style><table class="plainlinks tmbox tmbox-notice" role="presentation"><tbody><tr><td class="mbox-image"><span typeof="mw:File"><span title="VRT icon"><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/f0/Permission_logo_2021.svg/100px-Permission_logo_2021.svg.png" decoding="async" width="100" height="64" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/f0/Permission_logo_2021.svg/150px-Permission_logo_2021.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/f0/Permission_logo_2021.svg/200px-Permission_logo_2021.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="935" data-file-height="600"/></span></span></td><td class="mbox-text">The content of this article has been derived in whole or part from Lyubomir Ivanov. Permission has been received from the copyright holder to release this material. Evidence of this has been confirmed and stored by <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Volunteer_Response_Team" title="Wikipedia:Volunteer Response Team">VRT</a> volunteers, under ticket number <a class="external text" href="https://ticket.wikimedia.org/otrs/index.pl?Action=AgentTicketZoom&TicketNumber=2006013010000528">2006013010000528</a>. <br/> <small><b>This template is used by approved volunteers dealing with the Wikimedia volunteer response team system (VRTS) after receipt of a clear statement of permission at <i>permissions-en<span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:At_sign.svg" class="mw-file-description" title="(a)"><img alt="(a)" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/88/At_sign.svg/9px-At_sign.svg.png" decoding="async" width="9" height="9" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/88/At_sign.svg/14px-At_sign.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/88/At_sign.svg/18px-At_sign.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="145" data-file-height="145"/></a></span>wikimedia.org</i>. Do not use this template to claim permission.</b></small></td></tr></tbody></table> <p>but the latter should not appear also as a thumbnail at the location of the former. <a href="/wiki/User:Apcbg" title="User:Apcbg">Apcbg</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Apcbg#c-Apcbg-2006-03-29T10:36:00.000Z-Image_Tagging_Image:Tarnovo-Livingston.jpg" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:36, 29 March 2006 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Apcbg-2006-03-29T10:36:00.000Z-Image_Tagging_Image:Tarnovo-Livingston.jpg"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Apcbg-2006-03-29T10:36:00.000Z-Image_Tagging_Image:Tarnovo-Livingston.jpg"></span> </p> <dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Stan_Shebs-2006-05-23T04:06:00.000Z-Apcbg-2006-03-29T10:36:00.000Z"></span>The OTRS note is nice, but we still need you to add the usual GFDL tag. Also, I'm highly skeptical that Lyubomir Ivanov is the copyright holder for <a href="/wiki/File:28-02-06-Souvenir-Sheet.jpg" title="File:28-02-06-Souvenir-Sheet.jpg">Image:28-02-06-Souvenir-Sheet.jpg</a> - stamps are invariably copyright the national government or its postal service, and if this is really GFDL, it would be the first postal object in history to be so licensed. <a href="/wiki/User:Stan_Shebs" title="User:Stan Shebs">Stan</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Apcbg#c-Stan_Shebs-2006-05-23T04:06:00.000Z-Apcbg-2006-03-29T10:36:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">04:06, 23 May 2006 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Stan_Shebs-2006-05-23T04:06:00.000Z-Apcbg-2006-03-29T10:36:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Stan_Shebs-2006-05-23T04:06:00.000Z-Apcbg-2006-03-29T10:36:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Churches_in_Antarctica" data-mw-thread-id="h-Churches_in_Antarctica-2006-04-15T18:03:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Churches_in_Antarctica-2006-04-15T18:03:00.000Z"></span>Churches in Antarctica<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Churches_in_Antarctica-2006-04-15T18:03:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Apcbg&action=edit&section=17" title="Edit section: Churches in Antarctica"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-TodorBozhinov-2006-04-15T18:03:00.000Z-Churches_in_Antarctica"></span>Hello again! I gained interest in the matter of churches in <a href="/wiki/Antarctica" title="Antarctica">Antarctica</a> after an article about the <a href="/wiki/Russia" title="Russia">Russian</a> <a href="/wiki/Trinity_Church,_Antarctica" class="mw-redirect" title="Trinity Church, Antarctica">Trinity Church</a> on <a href="/wiki/King_George_Island" class="mw-disambig" title="King George Island">King George Island</a> reached the Did You Know square at the <a href="/wiki/Main_Page" title="Main Page">Main Page</a>. It used to claim it is the southernmost church in Antarctica, which is false because, as far as I know, our chapel at <a href="/wiki/St._Kliment_Ohridski_Base" title="St. Kliment Ohridski Base">St. Kliment Ohridski Base</a> is located even more to the south (based on how I see the two islands <a href="/wiki/File:South_Shetland_Islands_Map.png" title="File:South Shetland Islands Map.png">on that map</a> and the coordinates given), which even means the Russian one isn't even the southernmost <a href="/wiki/Eastern_Orthodox" class="mw-redirect" title="Eastern Orthodox">Eastern Orthodox</a> church in the world. I also did some research and found <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="http://www.ddxc.net/wap/church.php">that site</a> that also mentions some kind of 'universal' (i.e. Anglican, Catholic, Evangelist and so on, all-in-one) church at <a href="/wiki/McMurdo_Station" title="McMurdo Station">McMurdo Station</a>, which I also believe is even more to the south. Could you please confirm that, if possible, or correct me if I'm wrong? Thanks in advance! <span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Flag_of_Bulgaria.svg" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/9a/Flag_of_Bulgaria.svg/20px-Flag_of_Bulgaria.svg.png" decoding="async" width="20" height="12" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/9a/Flag_of_Bulgaria.svg/30px-Flag_of_Bulgaria.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/9a/Flag_of_Bulgaria.svg/40px-Flag_of_Bulgaria.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="1000" data-file-height="600"/></a></span> <a href="/wiki/User:TodorBozhinov" title="User:TodorBozhinov">→ Тодор Божинов / Todor Bozhinov</a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:TodorBozhinov" title="User talk:TodorBozhinov">→</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Apcbg#c-TodorBozhinov-2006-04-15T18:03:00.000Z-Churches_in_Antarctica" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:03, 15 April 2006 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-TodorBozhinov-2006-04-15T18:03:00.000Z-Churches_in_Antarctica"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-TodorBozhinov-2006-04-15T18:03:00.000Z-Churches_in_Antarctica"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-TodorBozhinov-2006-04-24T17:21:00.000Z-TodorBozhinov-2006-04-15T18:03:00.000Z"></span>Thanks for clearing that out and don't worry about the late response! The Russian church looks indeed very beautiful. <span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Flag_of_Bulgaria.svg" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/9a/Flag_of_Bulgaria.svg/20px-Flag_of_Bulgaria.svg.png" decoding="async" width="20" height="12" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/9a/Flag_of_Bulgaria.svg/30px-Flag_of_Bulgaria.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/9a/Flag_of_Bulgaria.svg/40px-Flag_of_Bulgaria.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="1000" data-file-height="600"/></a></span> <a href="/wiki/User:TodorBozhinov" title="User:TodorBozhinov">→ Тодор Божинов / Todor Bozhinov</a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:TodorBozhinov" title="User talk:TodorBozhinov">→</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Apcbg#c-TodorBozhinov-2006-04-24T17:21:00.000Z-TodorBozhinov-2006-04-15T18:03:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:21, 24 April 2006 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-TodorBozhinov-2006-04-24T17:21:00.000Z-TodorBozhinov-2006-04-15T18:03:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-TodorBozhinov-2006-04-24T17:21:00.000Z-TodorBozhinov-2006-04-15T18:03:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Antartica_image" data-mw-thread-id="h-Antartica_image-2006-05-24T20:34:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Antartica_image-2006-05-24T20:34:00.000Z"></span>Antartica image<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Antartica_image-2006-05-24T20:34:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Apcbg&action=edit&section=18" title="Edit section: Antartica image"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Kmf164-2006-05-24T20:34:00.000Z-Antartica_image"></span>The image was missing, appearing only as a red link. Though, I now notice some server problems going on with <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Main_Page" class="extiw" title="commons:Main Page">Commons</a>, so the image might be still be there. Please add the image back if that's the case. -<a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Kmf164&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Kmf164 (page does not exist)">Kmf164</a> (<small><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Kmf164&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:Kmf164 (page does not exist)">talk</a> | <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Kmf164" title="Special:Contributions/Kmf164">contribs</a></small>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Apcbg#c-Kmf164-2006-05-24T20:34:00.000Z-Antartica_image" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:34, 24 May 2006 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Kmf164-2006-05-24T20:34:00.000Z-Antartica_image"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Kmf164-2006-05-24T20:34:00.000Z-Antartica_image"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Catalan_wiki" data-mw-thread-id="h-Catalan_wiki-2006-06-03T21:00:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Catalan_wiki-2006-06-03T21:00:00.000Z"></span>Catalan wiki<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Catalan_wiki-2006-06-03T21:00:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Apcbg&action=edit&section=19" title="Edit section: Catalan wiki"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-J.Alonso-2006-06-03T21:00:00.000Z-Catalan_wiki"></span>I've seen you've been editing in the Catalan Wikipedia recently, and wrote (or should I said used an automatic translation of) an article on the History of South Gerogia. (And after having reviewed your involvement in several wikipedias in different languages, it seems that Antartica is your topic of interest). As part of the Catalan team, I must say that we appreciate your contributions. Nonetheless, it takes a while for our editors to change the hundreds of grammar and spelling errors of automatically translated articles (no automatic translator is perfect, not even among languages of the same family, Portuguese and Catalan, which you presumably used; try it from Dutch to English and you'll see the results!). I believe the best thing for you to do, since you do not speak Catalan, would be to communicate with English-speaking Catalan users (like me, or any other user) so that we can coordinate tasks for translation of new articles and/or edit those that you want to submit from automatic translation sites; otherwise, your contributions will be unintelligible for Catalan speakers. --<a href="/wiki/User:J.Alonso" class="mw-redirect" title="User:J.Alonso">J.Alonso</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Apcbg#c-J.Alonso-2006-06-03T21:00:00.000Z-Catalan_wiki" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:00, 3 June 2006 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-J.Alonso-2006-06-03T21:00:00.000Z-Catalan_wiki"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-J.Alonso-2006-06-03T21:00:00.000Z-Catalan_wiki"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Apcbg-2006-06-04T07:47:00.000Z-J.Alonso-2006-06-03T21:00:00.000Z"></span>Dear Alonso:</dd></dl> <dl><dd>Many thanks for your kind message, and for correcting (some of) the orthographic errors in my South Georgia article, which I both wrote and used automatic translation indeed. I highly appreciate your positive and constructive suggestion and will be happy to coordinate with you the translation into Catalan or editing of possible new contributions to the Catalan Wiki. <a href="/wiki/User:Apcbg" title="User:Apcbg">Apcbg</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Apcbg#c-Apcbg-2006-06-04T07:47:00.000Z-J.Alonso-2006-06-03T21:00:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">07:47, 4 June 2006 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Apcbg-2006-06-04T07:47:00.000Z-J.Alonso-2006-06-03T21:00:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Apcbg-2006-06-04T07:47:00.000Z-J.Alonso-2006-06-03T21:00:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-J.Alonso-2006-06-12T22:36:00.000Z-Apcbg-2006-06-04T07:47:00.000Z"></span>I reviewed the translations you did on <a class="external autonumber" href="https://ca.wikipedia.org/wiki/Usuari:Apcbg/Sant_Clemente_d%27Ohrid">[1]</a>. Are you using an automatic translator? Do you have the original document with you? There are just a couple of grammar mistakes, but there's also some stuff that doesn't make sense, and I can't figure out what the translator did. --<a href="/wiki/User:J.Alonso" class="mw-redirect" title="User:J.Alonso">Alonso</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Apcbg#c-J.Alonso-2006-06-12T22:36:00.000Z-Apcbg-2006-06-04T07:47:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:36, 12 June 2006 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-J.Alonso-2006-06-12T22:36:00.000Z-Apcbg-2006-06-04T07:47:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-J.Alonso-2006-06-12T22:36:00.000Z-Apcbg-2006-06-04T07:47:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Reverting_the_Antarctica_FAC" data-mw-thread-id="h-Reverting_the_Antarctica_FAC-2006-06-16T09:40:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Reverting_the_Antarctica_FAC-2006-06-16T09:40:00.000Z"></span>Reverting the <a href="/wiki/Antarctica" title="Antarctica">Antarctica</a> FAC<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Reverting_the_Antarctica_FAC-2006-06-16T09:40:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Apcbg&action=edit&section=20" title="Edit section: Reverting the Antarctica FAC"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Bishonen-2006-06-16T09:40:00.000Z-Reverting_the_Antarctica_FAC"></span>Right, that's what I thought, that you were probably drawn in by the previous change. I didn't revert that one, since it wasn't a comment, but merely the user changing (=prettyfying) their own sig. Hey, I love the photo on your userpage! <a href="/wiki/User:Bishonen" title="User:Bishonen">Bishonen</a> | <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Bishonen" title="User talk:Bishonen">talk</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Apcbg#c-Bishonen-2006-06-16T09:40:00.000Z-Reverting_the_Antarctica_FAC" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:40, 16 June 2006 (UTC)</a>.<span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Bishonen-2006-06-16T09:40:00.000Z-Reverting_the_Antarctica_FAC"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Bishonen-2006-06-16T09:40:00.000Z-Reverting_the_Antarctica_FAC"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Re_{{Outlying_areas_of_Europe}}" data-mw-thread-id="h-Re_{{Outlying_areas_of_Europe}}-2006-09-23T15:30:00.000Z"><span id="Re_.7B.7BOutlying_areas_of_Europe.7D.7D"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Re_{{Outlying_areas_of_Europe}}-2006-09-23T15:30:00.000Z"></span>Re <span class="nowrap">{{</span><a href="/wiki/Template:Outlying_areas_of_Europe" class="mw-redirect" title="Template:Outlying areas of Europe">Outlying areas of Europe</a><span class="nowrap">}}</span><span data-mw-comment-end="h-Re_{{Outlying_areas_of_Europe}}-2006-09-23T15:30:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Apcbg&action=edit&section=21" title="Edit section: Re {{Outlying areas of Europe}}"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-David_Kernow-2006-09-23T15:30:00.000Z-Re_{{Outlying_areas_of_Europe}}"></span>Hi Apcbg, </p> <dl><dd><i>Many thanks for your contribution to this article, but why did you remove the smaller entities? It was more informative to have them, more so that theirs are precisely the articles that have little or no other templates, while some of higher level entries may be even 'over-templated'.</i></dd></dl> <p>I'm still working on this template, so stand by; I'll try to re-incorporate them in the structure. Thanks for your prompt feedback! Regards, <a href="/wiki/User:David_Kernow" title="User:David Kernow">David Kernow</a> <span style="font-size:90%;">(<a href="/wiki/User_talk:David_Kernow" title="User talk:David Kernow">talk</a>)</span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Apcbg#c-David_Kernow-2006-09-23T15:30:00.000Z-Re_{{Outlying_areas_of_Europe}}" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:30, 23 September 2006 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-David_Kernow-2006-09-23T15:30:00.000Z-Re_{{Outlying_areas_of_Europe}}"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-David_Kernow-2006-09-23T15:30:00.000Z-Re_{{Outlying_areas_of_Europe}}"></span> </p> <dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Apcbg-2006-09-23T17:10:00.000Z-David_Kernow-2006-09-23T15:30:00.000Z"></span>The original template was based on a rather clear criterion for inclusion: Include those territories that are politically associated with Europe (European sovereignty) yet distant from Europe, typically situated closer to other continents than to any European country. Now with the recent changes, I am not so certain what the current principle might be, apparently not the original one as e.g. Ceuta and Melilla have disappeared with Svalbard and the Faroes added etc. I am afraid that the very idea of the template -- to present in a coherent way all the territories which are the global political extension of Europe beyond its narrow geographical limits -- may somehow get lost in the process. <a href="/wiki/User:Apcbg" title="User:Apcbg">Apcbg</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Apcbg#c-Apcbg-2006-09-23T17:10:00.000Z-David_Kernow-2006-09-23T15:30:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:10, 23 September 2006 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Apcbg-2006-09-23T17:10:00.000Z-David_Kernow-2006-09-23T15:30:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Apcbg-2006-09-23T17:10:00.000Z-David_Kernow-2006-09-23T15:30:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-David_Kernow-2006-09-23T17:30:00.000Z-Apcbg-2006-09-23T17:10:00.000Z"></span>Understood; I'll restore the original content of the template and add this criterion as a comment, in case anyone else decides to edit it. Hope you otherwise approve of the layout...? Yours, <a href="/wiki/User:David_Kernow" title="User:David Kernow">David</a> <span style="font-size:90%">(<a href="/wiki/User_talk:David_Kernow" title="User talk:David Kernow">talk</a>)</span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Apcbg#c-David_Kernow-2006-09-23T17:30:00.000Z-Apcbg-2006-09-23T17:10:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:30, 23 September 2006 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-David_Kernow-2006-09-23T17:30:00.000Z-Apcbg-2006-09-23T17:10:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-David_Kernow-2006-09-23T17:30:00.000Z-Apcbg-2006-09-23T17:10:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Apcbg-2006-09-23T17:53:00.000Z-David_Kernow-2006-09-23T17:30:00.000Z"></span>Sincere thanks, and yes an explanation of the principle and the template would be most welcome and useful indeed. My original idea was to stress commonality rather than division among respective nations (some of them have separate templates for their overseas territories), use local instead of English names though, and also use a neutral (e.g. alphabetical) ordering; this keeps the template more compact too. Best, <a href="/wiki/User:Apcbg" title="User:Apcbg">Apcbg</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Apcbg#c-Apcbg-2006-09-23T17:53:00.000Z-David_Kernow-2006-09-23T17:30:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:53, 23 September 2006 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Apcbg-2006-09-23T17:53:00.000Z-David_Kernow-2006-09-23T17:30:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Apcbg-2006-09-23T17:53:00.000Z-David_Kernow-2006-09-23T17:30:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-David_Kernow-2006-09-23T20:47:00.000Z-Apcbg-2006-09-23T17:53:00.000Z"></span>Have finished editing the template; see edit summaries for some comments re rationale. Re commonality, the template itself serves to group together all those European countries with outlying territories; or is there another commonality you have in mind (and I've missed!)...? I guess the template's size could be reduced somewhat by reducing the row width and removing the divider lines (then reformatting the columns) but I understand if you (or anyone else) reckon it'd still be too large. Thanks for your thanks! Regards, <a href="/wiki/User:David_Kernow" title="User:David Kernow">David</a> <span style="font-size:90%">(<a href="/wiki/User_talk:David_Kernow" title="User talk:David Kernow">talk</a>)</span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Apcbg#c-David_Kernow-2006-09-23T20:47:00.000Z-Apcbg-2006-09-23T17:53:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:47, 23 September 2006 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-David_Kernow-2006-09-23T20:47:00.000Z-Apcbg-2006-09-23T17:53:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-David_Kernow-2006-09-23T20:47:00.000Z-Apcbg-2006-09-23T17:53:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Apcbg-2006-09-24T13:08:00.000Z-David_Kernow-2006-09-23T20:47:00.000Z"></span>Okay, it seems rather complete now. I have made some minor edits on a draft given below; you may delete it when not needed. Just a couple of points (and I would be happy to answer any further questions you might have). South Georgia is in the Southern Ocean no less than Bouvet or Kerguelen are. The heading background colour -- there are so many grey templates, why another? My proposal for pink is purely for aesthetic reasons :-) Regarding the Italian islands, sure they are close to Europe but still closer to Africa. If we have fixed a principle then we better follow it, otherwise the door would be open for any additions or removals. (Pantelleria is 70 km from Tunisia and 100 km from Sicily; for Lampedusa the distances are 145 km and 215 respectively.) As for the size, it is large indeed but now it has the 'hide' option. With the present structure, it's better to keep the divider lines too. Nevertheless, if you could reduce the enpty rows width to half-row, the overal picture would look finer I guess. Best, <a href="/wiki/User:Apcbg" title="User:Apcbg">Apcbg</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Apcbg#c-Apcbg-2006-09-24T13:08:00.000Z-David_Kernow-2006-09-23T20:47:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:08, 24 September 2006 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Apcbg-2006-09-24T13:08:00.000Z-David_Kernow-2006-09-23T20:47:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Apcbg-2006-09-24T13:08:00.000Z-David_Kernow-2006-09-23T20:47:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Apcbg-2006-09-24T18:18:00.000Z-Apcbg-2006-09-24T13:08:00.000Z"></span>Table updated taking into account changes made in the meantime by other participants; in particular, seems like greater details are not favoured, e.g. the subdivisions of the Azores (which by the way were originally introduced by some Portuguese-speaking user) are removed. Best, <a href="/wiki/User:Apcbg" title="User:Apcbg">Apcbg</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Apcbg#c-Apcbg-2006-09-24T18:18:00.000Z-Apcbg-2006-09-24T13:08:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:18, 24 September 2006 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Apcbg-2006-09-24T18:18:00.000Z-Apcbg-2006-09-24T13:08:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Apcbg-2006-09-24T18:18:00.000Z-Apcbg-2006-09-24T13:08:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <p><br/> </p> <center><div class="NavFrame" style="clear:both; width:685px;"> <div class="NavHead" style="background-color:#ffe4e1"><b><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-David_Kernow-2006-09-25T02:35:00.000Z-Re_{{Outlying_areas_of_Europe}}"></span>Outlying territories of European countries</b></div> <div class="NavContent" style="font-size:90%"> <table width="685px" style="background-color:#f7f8ff" cellspacing="0"> <tbody><tr> <td colspan="3" align="center"><i>Territories under <a href="/wiki/Europe" title="Europe">European</a> <a href="/wiki/Sovereignty" title="Sovereignty">sovereignty</a> but closer to continents other than Europe</i> </td></tr> <tr> <td colspan="3"> <hr/> </td></tr> <tr> <th width="85px"> <p><a href="/wiki/Kingdom_of_Denmark" class="mw-redirect" title="Kingdom of Denmark">Denmark</a> </p> </th> <td> <p><i><a href="/wiki/Arctic" title="Arctic">Arctic</a></i> </p> </td> <td align="left"> <p><a href="/wiki/Greenland" title="Greenland">Grønland (Kalaallit Nunaat)</a> </p> </td></tr> <tr> <td colspan="3"> <hr/> </td></tr> <tr> <th rowspan="5"> <p><a href="/wiki/France" title="France">France</a> </p> </th> <td> <p><i><a href="/wiki/Atlantic_Ocean" title="Atlantic Ocean">Atlantic</a><br/><a href="/wiki/Caribbean" title="Caribbean">and Caribbean</a></i> </p> </td> <td align="left"> <p><a href="/wiki/Guadeloupe" title="Guadeloupe">Guadeloupe</a> <small>(<a href="/wiki/Guadeloupe" title="Guadeloupe">Guadeloupe</a>, <a href="/wiki/Saint-Barth%C3%A9lemy" class="mw-redirect" title="Saint-Barthélemy">Saint-Barthélemy</a> <a href="/wiki/Saint-Martin" class="mw-redirect mw-disambig" title="Saint-Martin">et Saint-Martin</a>)</small> • <a href="/wiki/Martinique" title="Martinique">Martinique</a> • <a href="/wiki/Saint-Pierre_et_Miquelon" class="mw-redirect" title="Saint-Pierre et Miquelon">Saint-Pierre et Miquelon</a> </p> </td></tr> <tr> <td> <p><i><a href="/wiki/Indian_Ocean" title="Indian Ocean">Indian Ocean</a></i> </p> </td> <td align="left"> <p><a href="/wiki/Mayotte" title="Mayotte">Mayotte</a> • <a href="/wiki/R%C3%A9union" title="Réunion">Réunion</a> • <a href="/wiki/Scattered_islands_in_the_Indian_Ocean" class="mw-redirect" title="Scattered islands in the Indian Ocean">Îles Éparses</a> <small>(<a href="/wiki/Bassas_da_India" title="Bassas da India">Bassas da India</a>, <a href="/wiki/Europa_Island" title="Europa Island">Île Europa</a>, <a href="/wiki/Juan_de_Nova_Island" title="Juan de Nova Island">Île Juan da Nova</a>, <a href="/wiki/Glorioso_Islands" title="Glorioso Islands">Îles Glorieuses</a>, <a href="/wiki/Tromelin_Island" title="Tromelin Island">Île Tromelin</a>) </small></p><small> </small></td></tr> <tr> <td> <p><i><a href="/wiki/Pacific_Ocean" title="Pacific Ocean">Pacific</a></i> </p> </td> <td align="left"> <p><a href="/wiki/Clipperton_Island" title="Clipperton Island">Île de Clipperton</a> • <a href="/wiki/New_Caledonia" title="New Caledonia">Nouvelle-Calédonie (Kanaky)</a> • <a href="/wiki/French_Polynesia" title="French Polynesia">Polynésie française</a> <small>(<a href="/wiki/Marquesas_Islands" title="Marquesas Islands">Îles Marquises</a>, <a href="/wiki/Tuamotu" class="mw-redirect" title="Tuamotu">l'Archipel des Tuamotu</a>, <a href="/wiki/Society_Islands" title="Society Islands">l'Archipel de la Société</a>)</small> • <a href="/wiki/Wallis_and_Futuna" title="Wallis and Futuna">Wallis et Futuna</a> </p> </td></tr> <tr> <td> <p><i><a href="/wiki/South_America" title="South America">South America</a></i> </p> </td> <td align="left"> <p><a href="/wiki/French_Guiana" title="French Guiana">Guyane française</a> </p> </td></tr> <tr> <td> <p><i><a href="/wiki/Southern_Ocean" title="Southern Ocean">Southern Ocean</a></i> </p> </td> <td align="left"> <p><a href="/wiki/French_Southern_Territories" class="mw-redirect" title="French Southern Territories">Terres australes et antarctiques françaises</a> <small>(<a href="/wiki/%C3%8Ele_Amsterdam" title="Île Amsterdam">Îles Amsterdam</a> <a href="/wiki/%C3%8Ele_Saint-Paul" title="Île Saint-Paul">et Saint-Paul</a>, <a href="/wiki/Crozet_Islands" title="Crozet Islands">l'Archipel Crozet</a>, <a href="/wiki/Kerguelen_Islands" title="Kerguelen Islands">Îles Kerguelen</a>)</small> </p> </td></tr> <tr> <td colspan="3"> <hr/> </td></tr> <tr> <th> <p><a href="/wiki/Italy" title="Italy">Italy</a> </p> </th> <td> <p><i><a href="/wiki/Mediterranean" class="mw-redirect" title="Mediterranean">Mediterranean</a></i> </p> </td> <td align="left"> <p><a href="/wiki/Pantelleria" title="Pantelleria">Pantelleria</a> • <a href="/wiki/Pelagie_Islands" title="Pelagie Islands">Isole Pelagie <small>(Lampedusa, Linosa, Lampione)</small></a> </p> </td></tr> <tr> <td colspan="3"> <hr/> </td></tr> <tr> <th> <p><a href="/wiki/Kingdom_of_the_Netherlands" title="Kingdom of the Netherlands">Netherlands</a> </p> </th> <td> <p><i><a href="/wiki/Caribbean" title="Caribbean">Caribbean</a></i> </p> </td> <td align="left"> <p><a href="/wiki/Aruba" title="Aruba">Aruba</a> • <a href="/wiki/Nederlandse_Antillen" class="mw-redirect" title="Nederlandse Antillen">Nederlandse Antillen</a> <small>(<a href="/wiki/Bonaire" title="Bonaire">Bonaire</a>, <a href="/wiki/Cura%C3%A7ao" title="Curaçao">Curaçao</a>, <a href="/wiki/Saba" class="mw-disambig" title="Saba">Saba</a>, <a href="/wiki/Sint_Eustatius" title="Sint Eustatius">Sint Eustatius</a>, <a href="/wiki/Sint_Maarten" title="Sint Maarten">Sint Maarten</a>)</small> </p> </td></tr> <tr> <td colspan="3"> <hr/> </td></tr> <tr> <th> <p><a href="/wiki/Kingdom_of_Norway" class="mw-redirect" title="Kingdom of Norway">Norway</a> </p> </th> <td> <p><i><a href="/wiki/Southern_Ocean" title="Southern Ocean">Southern Ocean</a></i> </p> </td> <td align="left"> <p><a href="/wiki/Bouvet_Island" title="Bouvet Island">Bouvetøya</a> </p> </td></tr> <tr> <td colspan="3"> <hr/> </td></tr> <tr> <th> <p><a href="/wiki/Portugal" title="Portugal">Portugal</a> </p> </th> <td> <p><i><a href="/wiki/Atlantic_Ocean" title="Atlantic Ocean">Atlantic</a></i> </p> </td> <td align="left"> <p><a href="/wiki/Azores_Islands" class="mw-redirect" title="Azores Islands">Arquipélago dos Açores</a> • <a href="/wiki/Madeira_Islands" class="mw-redirect" title="Madeira Islands">Arquipélago da Madeira</a> </p> </td></tr> <tr> <td colspan="3"> <hr/> </td></tr> <tr> <th rowspan="2"> <p><a href="/wiki/Spain" title="Spain">Spain</a> </p> </th> <td> <p><i><a href="/wiki/North_Africa" title="North Africa">North Africa</a></i> </p> </td> <td align="left"> <p><a href="/wiki/Ceuta" title="Ceuta">Ceuta</a> • <a href="/wiki/Melilla" title="Melilla">Melilla</a> • <a href="/wiki/Plazas_de_soberan%C3%ADa" title="Plazas de soberanía">Plazas de soberanía menores</a> <small>(<a href="/wiki/Islas_Chafarinas" class="mw-redirect" title="Islas Chafarinas">Chafarinas</a>, <a href="/wiki/Pe%C3%B1%C3%B3n_de_V%C3%A9lez_de_la_Gomera" title="Peñón de Vélez de la Gomera">Vélez de la Gomera</a>, <a href="/wiki/Pe%C3%B1%C3%B3n_de_Alhucemas" class="mw-redirect" title="Peñón de Alhucemas">Alhusemas</a>)</small> </p> </td></tr> <tr> <td> <p><i><a href="/wiki/Atlantic_Ocean" title="Atlantic Ocean">Atlantic</a></i> </p> </td> <td align="left"> <p><a href="/wiki/Canary_Islands" title="Canary Islands">Islas Canarias</a> </p> </td></tr> <tr> <td colspan="3"> <hr/> </td></tr> <tr> <th rowspan="4"> <p><a href="/wiki/United_Kingdom" title="United Kingdom">United Kingdom</a> </p> </th> <td width="100px"> <p><i><a href="/wiki/Atlantic_Ocean" title="Atlantic Ocean">Atlantic</a><br/><a href="/wiki/Caribbean" title="Caribbean">and Caribbean</a></i> </p> </td> <td align="left"> <p><a href="/wiki/Anguilla" title="Anguilla">Anguilla</a> • <a href="/wiki/Bermuda" title="Bermuda">Bermuda</a> • <a href="/wiki/British_Virgin_Islands" title="British Virgin Islands">British Virgin Islands</a> • <a href="/wiki/Cayman_Islands" title="Cayman Islands">Cayman Islands</a> • <a href="/wiki/Falkland_Islands" title="Falkland Islands">Falkland Islands</a> • <a href="/wiki/Montserrat" title="Montserrat">Montserrat</a> • <a href="/wiki/Saint_Helena" title="Saint Helena">Saint Helena</a> <small>(<a href="/wiki/Ascension_Island" title="Ascension Island">Ascension</a>, <a href="/wiki/Saint_Helena" title="Saint Helena">Saint Helena</a>, <a href="/wiki/Tristan_da_Cunha" title="Tristan da Cunha">Tristan da Cunha</a>, <a href="/wiki/Gough_Island" title="Gough Island">Gough</a>)</small> • <a href="/wiki/Turks_and_Caicos_Islands" title="Turks and Caicos Islands">Turks and Caicos Islands</a> </p> </td></tr> <tr> <td> <p><i><a href="/wiki/Indian_Ocean" title="Indian Ocean">Indian Ocean</a></i> </p> </td> <td align="left"> <p><a href="/wiki/British_Indian_Ocean_Territory" title="British Indian Ocean Territory">British Indian Ocean Territory</a> <small>(<a href="/wiki/Chagos_Archipelago" title="Chagos Archipelago">Chagos Archipelago</a>)</small> </p> </td></tr> <tr> <td> <p><i><a href="/wiki/Pacific_Ocean" title="Pacific Ocean">Pacific</a></i> </p> </td> <td align="left"> <p><a href="/wiki/Pitcairn_Islands" title="Pitcairn Islands">Pitcairn Islands</a> <small>(<a href="/wiki/Pitcairn" class="mw-redirect" title="Pitcairn">Pitcairn</a>, <a href="/wiki/Henderson_Island_(Pitcairn_Islands)" title="Henderson Island (Pitcairn Islands)">Henderson</a>, <a href="/wiki/Ducie_Island" title="Ducie Island">Ducie</a>, <a href="/wiki/Oeno_Island" title="Oeno Island">Oeno</a>)</small> </p> </td></tr> <tr> <td> <p><i><a href="/wiki/Southern_Ocean" title="Southern Ocean">Southern Ocean</a></i> </p> </td> <td align="left"> <p><a href="/wiki/South_Georgia_and_the_South_Sandwich_Islands" title="South Georgia and the South Sandwich Islands">South Georgia and the South Sandwich Islands</a> </p> </td></tr> </tbody></table></div></div></center> <p><br/> Thanks, Apcbg; I think the table looks great and I agree with all your amendments and corrections. I only wonder what I'm missing re trying to reduce the row widths – not that this is a "must-do". Also given its size, I don't know how to ensure the template's default state is hidden; this, however, is how it current seems to appear in the articles I've revisited. Thanks for creating an interesting template! Yours, <a href="/wiki/User:David_Kernow" title="User:David Kernow">David</a> <span style="font-size:90%">(<a href="/wiki/User_talk:David_Kernow" title="User talk:David Kernow">talk</a>)</span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Apcbg#c-David_Kernow-2006-09-25T02:35:00.000Z-Re_{{Outlying_areas_of_Europe}}" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">02:35, 25 September 2006 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-David_Kernow-2006-09-25T02:35:00.000Z-Re_{{Outlying_areas_of_Europe}}"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-David_Kernow-2006-09-25T02:35:00.000Z-Re_{{Outlying_areas_of_Europe}}"></span> </p><p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-David_Kernow-2006-09-25T03:30:00.000Z-Re_{{Outlying_areas_of_Europe}}"></span>...Have just updated <span class="nowrap">{{</span><a href="/wiki/Template:Outlying_territories_of_European_countries" title="Template:Outlying territories of European countries">Outlying territories of European countries</a><span class="nowrap">}}</span> per the above. <a href="/wiki/User:David_Kernow" title="User:David Kernow">David</a> <span style="font-size:90%">(<a href="/wiki/User_talk:David_Kernow" title="User talk:David Kernow">talk</a>)</span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Apcbg#c-David_Kernow-2006-09-25T03:30:00.000Z-Re_{{Outlying_areas_of_Europe}}" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">03:30, 25 September 2006 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-David_Kernow-2006-09-25T03:30:00.000Z-Re_{{Outlying_areas_of_Europe}}"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-David_Kernow-2006-09-25T03:30:00.000Z-Re_{{Outlying_areas_of_Europe}}"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Apcbg-2006-09-25T07:50:00.000Z-David_Kernow-2006-09-25T03:30:00.000Z"></span>Thanks David, you have done a great job indeed; the template is now ready for its destruction by enthusiasts :-) Seriously, as people are likely to wonder why this or that particular territory is included, and yet another one is not, do you think that it would help users if they have a more formal algorithm so that they could easily check by themselves the correct application of the general principle? The relevant text may be put not on the template itself, but only on the template page above the table. Then it would not appear in articles featuring the template, but would be seen when someone goes to the template page. Possible wording:</dd> <dd><i>In order to avoid possible confusion and misunderstanding, the eligibility for inclusion in this template is defined technically as follows. An <b>European outlying territory</b> is a territory which: (1) has any political status other than independent country; (2) has a common sovereignty with some member state of the Council of Europe; and (3) either (a) the nearest independent country is not a member of the Council of Europe, or (b) the distance to the nearest European territory is more than 400 nautical miles. (The distance in (a) is measured to the nearest other territory; the distance in (b) is twice the EEZ limit under the Law of the Sea Convention, ensuring that the respective jurisdictional waters are not contiguous.)</i></dd> <dd>Best, <a href="/wiki/User:Apcbg" title="User:Apcbg">Apcbg</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Apcbg#c-Apcbg-2006-09-25T07:50:00.000Z-David_Kernow-2006-09-25T03:30:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">07:50, 25 September 2006 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Apcbg-2006-09-25T07:50:00.000Z-David_Kernow-2006-09-25T03:30:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Apcbg-2006-09-25T07:50:00.000Z-David_Kernow-2006-09-25T03:30:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-David_Kernow-2006-09-25T08:18:00.000Z-Apcbg-2006-09-25T07:50:00.000Z"></span>Good point; "Territories under European sovereignty but closer to continents other than Europe" is a rule of thumb, but I agree your paragraph is something better to which to point folk toward in future. I've added it to the template's <noinclude> section and a "<i>(see <a href="/wiki/Template:Outlying_territories_of_European_countries#Inclusion_criteria" title="Template:Outlying territories of European countries">inclusion criteria</a> for further information)</i>" link to the template. Yours, <a href="/wiki/User:David_Kernow" title="User:David Kernow">David</a> <span style="font-size:90%">(<a href="/wiki/User_talk:David_Kernow" title="User talk:David Kernow">talk</a>)</span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Apcbg#c-David_Kernow-2006-09-25T08:18:00.000Z-Apcbg-2006-09-25T07:50:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">08:18, 25 September 2006 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-David_Kernow-2006-09-25T08:18:00.000Z-Apcbg-2006-09-25T07:50:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-David_Kernow-2006-09-25T08:18:00.000Z-Apcbg-2006-09-25T07:50:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Apcbg-2006-09-25T08:50:00.000Z-David_Kernow-2006-09-25T08:18:00.000Z"></span>Sincere thanks! Best, <a href="/wiki/User:Apcbg" title="User:Apcbg">Apcbg</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Apcbg#c-Apcbg-2006-09-25T08:50:00.000Z-David_Kernow-2006-09-25T08:18:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">08:50, 25 September 2006 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Apcbg-2006-09-25T08:50:00.000Z-David_Kernow-2006-09-25T08:18:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Apcbg-2006-09-25T08:50:00.000Z-David_Kernow-2006-09-25T08:18:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading3"><h3 id="Flags" data-mw-thread-id="h-Flags-Re_{{Outlying_areas_of_Europe}}-2006-09-29T14:10:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Flags-Re_{{Outlying_areas_of_Europe}}-2006-09-29T14:10:00.000Z"></span>Flags<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Flags-Re_{{Outlying_areas_of_Europe}}-2006-09-29T14:10:00.000Z"></span></h3><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Apcbg&action=edit&section=22" title="Edit section: Flags"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-David_Kernow-2006-09-29T14:10:00.000Z-Flags"></span>Re <a class="external autonumber" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template%3AOutlying_territories_of_European_countries&diff=78460689&oldid=77980530">[2]</a>, are you particularly fond of these flags...? I realise it's only one opinion, but to me they look like "blots on the template's landscape"... Regards, <a href="/wiki/User:David_Kernow" title="User:David Kernow">David</a> <span style="font-size:90%">(<a href="/wiki/User_talk:David_Kernow" title="User talk:David Kernow">talk</a>)</span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Apcbg#c-David_Kernow-2006-09-29T14:10:00.000Z-Flags" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:10, 29 September 2006 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-David_Kernow-2006-09-29T14:10:00.000Z-Flags"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-David_Kernow-2006-09-29T14:10:00.000Z-Flags"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Apcbg-2006-09-29T14:29:00.000Z-David_Kernow-2006-09-29T14:10:00.000Z"></span>Well it was just a try; maybe you're right, so I removed them. While on this topic, is it possible to reduce only the height of the empty rows and the rows with horizontal dividing lines? And another question, why some articles open with this template hidden and others don't? Also, sometimes the opening of the template moves other templates around (South Georgia & SSI; History of SGSSI) or overlaps with them (Greenland)? And one last question, do you think that the Bulgarian and Portuguese versions of the template would be better too without flags? I'd appreciate having your advice. Best, <a href="/wiki/User:Apcbg" title="User:Apcbg">Apcbg</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Apcbg#c-Apcbg-2006-09-29T14:29:00.000Z-David_Kernow-2006-09-29T14:10:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:29, 29 September 2006 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Apcbg-2006-09-29T14:29:00.000Z-David_Kernow-2006-09-29T14:10:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Apcbg-2006-09-29T14:29:00.000Z-David_Kernow-2006-09-29T14:10:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><i><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-David_Kernow-2006-09-29T15:48:00.000Z-Apcbg-2006-09-29T14:29:00.000Z"></span>...is it possible to reduce only the height of the empty rows and the rows with horizontal dividing lines?</i></dd></dl></dd> <dd>Should be; I have an idea how, but unfortunately I'm not a CSS/HTML whizz... <dl><dd><i>...why some articles open with this template hidden and others don't?</i></dd></dl></dd> <dd>Good question! Maybe there's a straightforward way to find out who designed the "Nav*" classes used to enable this feature and ask him/her/them whether a default may be set...? <dl><dd><i>Also, sometimes the opening of the template moves other templates around...</i></dd></dl></dd> <dd>Ditto; <dl><dd><i>...do you think that the Bulgarian and Portuguese versions of the template would be better too without flags?</i></dd></dl></dd> <dd>Do you mean one or more templates on the <a href="/wiki/Bulgaria" title="Bulgaria">Bulgaria</a> and <a href="/wiki/Portugal" title="Portugal">Portugal</a> pages, or on the Bulgarian/Portugese Wikipedias/e...?</dd> <dd>Regards, <a href="/wiki/User:David_Kernow" title="User:David Kernow">David</a> <span style="font-size:90%">(<a href="/wiki/User_talk:David_Kernow" title="User talk:David Kernow">talk</a>)</span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Apcbg#c-David_Kernow-2006-09-29T15:48:00.000Z-Apcbg-2006-09-29T14:29:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:48, 29 September 2006 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-David_Kernow-2006-09-29T15:48:00.000Z-Apcbg-2006-09-29T14:29:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-David_Kernow-2006-09-29T15:48:00.000Z-Apcbg-2006-09-29T14:29:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Apcbg-2006-09-29T15:56:00.000Z-David_Kernow-2006-09-29T15:48:00.000Z"></span>I mean the <a href="https://pt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Predefini%C3%A7%C3%A3o:%C3%81reas_remotas_europ%C3%A9ias" class="extiw" title="pt:Predefinição:Áreas remotas européias">Portuguese</a> and the <a href="https://bg.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%A8%D0%B0%D0%B1%D0%BB%D0%BE%D0%BD:%D0%95%D0%B2%D1%80%D0%BE%D0%BF%D0%B5%D0%B9%D1%81%D0%BA%D0%B8_%D0%B2%D1%8A%D0%BD%D1%88%D0%BD%D0%B8_%D1%82%D0%B5%D1%80%D0%B8%D1%82%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%B8%D0%B8" class="extiw" title="bg:Шаблон:Европейски външни територии">Bulgarian</a> versions of this particular template. Best, <a href="/wiki/User:Apcbg" title="User:Apcbg">Apcbg</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Apcbg#c-Apcbg-2006-09-29T15:56:00.000Z-David_Kernow-2006-09-29T15:48:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:56, 29 September 2006 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Apcbg-2006-09-29T15:56:00.000Z-David_Kernow-2006-09-29T15:48:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Apcbg-2006-09-29T15:56:00.000Z-David_Kernow-2006-09-29T15:48:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-David_Kernow-2006-09-29T16:04:00.000Z-Apcbg-2006-09-29T15:56:00.000Z"></span>...As in those links at the bottom of the template's code – sorry! Personally, I'd prefer them without, per the above, but maybe that's something the users of the Portugese and Bulgarian Wikipedias/e should decide... Yours, <a href="/wiki/User:David_Kernow" title="User:David Kernow">David</a> <span style="font-size:90%">(<a href="/wiki/User_talk:David_Kernow" title="User talk:David Kernow">talk</a>)</span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Apcbg#c-David_Kernow-2006-09-29T16:04:00.000Z-Apcbg-2006-09-29T15:56:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:04, 29 September 2006 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-David_Kernow-2006-09-29T16:04:00.000Z-Apcbg-2006-09-29T15:56:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-David_Kernow-2006-09-29T16:04:00.000Z-Apcbg-2006-09-29T15:56:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading4"><h4 id="{{Peri-Antarctic_countries_and_overseas_territories}}" data-mw-thread-id="h-{{Peri-Antarctic_countries_and_overseas_territories}}-Flags-2006-09-29T16:30:00.000Z"><span id=".7B.7BPeri-Antarctic_countries_and_overseas_territories.7D.7D"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-{{Peri-Antarctic_countries_and_overseas_territories}}-Flags-2006-09-29T16:30:00.000Z"></span><span class="nowrap">{{</span><a href="/wiki/Template:Peri-Antarctic_countries_and_overseas_territories" title="Template:Peri-Antarctic countries and overseas territories">Peri-Antarctic countries and overseas territories</a><span class="nowrap">}}</span><span data-mw-comment-end="h-{{Peri-Antarctic_countries_and_overseas_territories}}-Flags-2006-09-29T16:30:00.000Z"></span></h4><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Apcbg&action=edit&section=23" title="Edit section: {{Peri-Antarctic countries and overseas territories}}"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-David_Kernow-2006-09-29T16:30:00.000Z-{{Peri-Antarctic_countries_and_overseas_territories}}"></span>Guess what... <a href="/wiki/User:David_Kernow" title="User:David Kernow">David</a> <span style="font-size:90%">(<a href="/wiki/User_talk:David_Kernow" title="User talk:David Kernow">talk</a>)</span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Apcbg#c-David_Kernow-2006-09-29T16:30:00.000Z-{{Peri-Antarctic_countries_and_overseas_territories}}" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:30, 29 September 2006 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-David_Kernow-2006-09-29T16:30:00.000Z-{{Peri-Antarctic_countries_and_overseas_territories}}"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-David_Kernow-2006-09-29T16:30:00.000Z-{{Peri-Antarctic_countries_and_overseas_territories}}"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Apcbg-2006-09-29T17:36:00.000Z-David_Kernow-2006-09-29T16:30:00.000Z"></span>Dear David:</dd> <dd>Many thanks for all your answers and advice. I shall follow your better judgement, and correspondingly remove the flags in several related templates in few Wikipedias. Some wasted time and effort on my part, but that's the price for a lesson too ... Best, <a href="/wiki/User:Apcbg" title="User:Apcbg">Apcbg</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Apcbg#c-Apcbg-2006-09-29T17:36:00.000Z-David_Kernow-2006-09-29T16:30:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:36, 29 September 2006 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Apcbg-2006-09-29T17:36:00.000Z-David_Kernow-2006-09-29T16:30:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Apcbg-2006-09-29T17:36:00.000Z-David_Kernow-2006-09-29T16:30:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-David_Kernow-2006-09-29T17:54:00.000Z-Apcbg-2006-09-29T17:36:00.000Z"></span>Well, it's only one opinion; other folk may take an interest someday and add them again... I'm not against flags per se, but as their shape is angular I guess I prefer them aligned. So, if you'd prefer to keep the flags and can cook up some way to align them... maybe, though, the result might still look too complex... Meanwhile, if I had a dollar/euro/etc for every time some work has been reverted (often by myself!)... Yours, <a href="/wiki/User:David_Kernow" title="User:David Kernow">David</a> <span style="font-size:90%">(<a href="/wiki/User_talk:David_Kernow" title="User talk:David Kernow">talk</a>)</span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Apcbg#c-David_Kernow-2006-09-29T17:54:00.000Z-Apcbg-2006-09-29T17:36:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:54, 29 September 2006 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-David_Kernow-2006-09-29T17:54:00.000Z-Apcbg-2006-09-29T17:36:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-David_Kernow-2006-09-29T17:54:00.000Z-Apcbg-2006-09-29T17:36:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Apcbg-2006-09-29T19:44:00.000Z-David_Kernow-2006-09-29T17:54:00.000Z"></span>Yes, probably something like <a href="https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mod%C3%A8le:Pays_d%27Europe_(COE)" class="extiw" title="fr:Modèle:Pays d'Europe (COE)">Modèle:Pays d'Europe</a>, but you are right also that it would be too complex if the structure showing the relevant world regions and European countries is preserved; besides, the flags of the UK overseas territories are too similar at this scale. Anyway, I removed them all (at least that was easier than inserting them in the first place). Thanks again. Best, <a href="/wiki/User:Apcbg" title="User:Apcbg">Apcbg</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Apcbg#c-Apcbg-2006-09-29T19:44:00.000Z-David_Kernow-2006-09-29T17:54:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:44, 29 September 2006 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Apcbg-2006-09-29T19:44:00.000Z-David_Kernow-2006-09-29T17:54:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Apcbg-2006-09-29T19:44:00.000Z-David_Kernow-2006-09-29T17:54:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading3"><h3 id="Compact_version" data-mw-thread-id="h-Compact_version-Re_{{Outlying_areas_of_Europe}}-2006-09-29T15:48:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Compact_version-Re_{{Outlying_areas_of_Europe}}-2006-09-29T15:48:00.000Z"></span>Compact version<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Compact_version-Re_{{Outlying_areas_of_Europe}}-2006-09-29T15:48:00.000Z"></span></h3><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Apcbg&action=edit&section=24" title="Edit section: Compact version"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-David_Kernow-2006-09-29T15:48:00.000Z-Compact_version"></span>Perhaps somewhat déjà vu, but <a href="/w/index.php?title=Template:Outlying_territories_of_European_countries/compact_version&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Template:Outlying territories of European countries/compact version (page does not exist)">this</a> now carries a compact version of the template in case the tide of opinion favo/urs it. <a href="/wiki/User:David_Kernow" title="User:David Kernow">David</a> <span style="font-size:90%">(<a href="/wiki/User_talk:David_Kernow" title="User talk:David Kernow">talk</a>)</span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Apcbg#c-David_Kernow-2006-09-29T15:48:00.000Z-Compact_version" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:48, 29 September 2006 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-David_Kernow-2006-09-29T15:48:00.000Z-Compact_version"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-David_Kernow-2006-09-29T15:48:00.000Z-Compact_version"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading3"><h3 id="Trying_to_reduce_line_height" data-mw-thread-id="h-Trying_to_reduce_line_height-Re_{{Outlying_areas_of_Europe}}-2006-10-01T13:51:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Trying_to_reduce_line_height-Re_{{Outlying_areas_of_Europe}}-2006-10-01T13:51:00.000Z"></span>Trying to reduce line height<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Trying_to_reduce_line_height-Re_{{Outlying_areas_of_Europe}}-2006-10-01T13:51:00.000Z"></span></h3><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Apcbg&action=edit&section=25" title="Edit section: Trying to reduce line height"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-David_Kernow-2006-10-01T13:51:00.000Z-Trying_to_reduce_line_height"></span>In the quest to find out how to alter the line/row heights in templates etc, I suddenly remembered an experienced template-maker, <a href="/wiki/User:AzaToth" title="User:AzaToth">AzaToth</a>. <a href="/wiki/User_talk:AzaToth#Simple_(I_think!)_help_request" title="User talk:AzaToth">Here's</a> my request for advice and his reply; unfortunately it doesn't look as straightforward as I'd hoped... Yours, <a href="/wiki/User:David_Kernow" title="User:David Kernow">David</a> <span style="font-size:90%">(<a href="/wiki/User_talk:David_Kernow" title="User talk:David Kernow">talk</a>)</span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Apcbg#c-David_Kernow-2006-10-01T13:51:00.000Z-Trying_to_reduce_line_height" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:51, 1 October 2006 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-David_Kernow-2006-10-01T13:51:00.000Z-Trying_to_reduce_line_height"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-David_Kernow-2006-10-01T13:51:00.000Z-Trying_to_reduce_line_height"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Re_Peri-Antarctic" data-mw-thread-id="h-Re_Peri-Antarctic-2006-10-25T09:44:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Re_Peri-Antarctic-2006-10-25T09:44:00.000Z"></span>Re Peri-Antarctic<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Re_Peri-Antarctic-2006-10-25T09:44:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Apcbg&action=edit&section=26" title="Edit section: Re Peri-Antarctic"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-David_Kernow-2006-10-25T09:44:00.000Z-Re_Peri-Antarctic"></span>Hi again Apcbg, </p> <dl><dd><i>...please restore the original list of countries and territories. The template is about countries and overseqas territories that are per-Antarctic themselves...</i></dd></dl> <p>Having removed Argentine Antarctica, I then forget what "peri-Antarctic" means...! Time for a break, I think, once I've corrected the template... Thanks for spotting my error so promptly. Best wishes, <a href="/wiki/User:David_Kernow" title="User:David Kernow">David Kernow</a> <span style="font-size:90%;">(<a href="/wiki/User_talk:David_Kernow" title="User talk:David Kernow">talk</a>)</span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Apcbg#c-David_Kernow-2006-10-25T09:44:00.000Z-Re_Peri-Antarctic" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:44, 25 October 2006 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-David_Kernow-2006-10-25T09:44:00.000Z-Re_Peri-Antarctic"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-David_Kernow-2006-10-25T09:44:00.000Z-Re_Peri-Antarctic"></span> </p> <dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Apcbg-2006-10-25T10:00:00.000Z-David_Kernow-2006-10-25T09:44:00.000Z"></span>Many thanks! Best, <a href="/wiki/User:Apcbg" title="User:Apcbg">Apcbg</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Apcbg#c-Apcbg-2006-10-25T10:00:00.000Z-David_Kernow-2006-10-25T09:44:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:00, 25 October 2006 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Apcbg-2006-10-25T10:00:00.000Z-David_Kernow-2006-10-25T09:44:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Apcbg-2006-10-25T10:00:00.000Z-David_Kernow-2006-10-25T09:44:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Edits_in_the_article_of_the_SGSSI" data-mw-thread-id="h-Edits_in_the_article_of_the_SGSSI-2006-10-30T00:07:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Edits_in_the_article_of_the_SGSSI-2006-10-30T00:07:00.000Z"></span>Edits in the article of the <a href="/wiki/SGSSI" class="mw-redirect" title="SGSSI">SGSSI</a><span data-mw-comment-end="h-Edits_in_the_article_of_the_SGSSI-2006-10-30T00:07:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Apcbg&action=edit&section=27" title="Edit section: Edits in the article of the SGSSI"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <div style="background-color:#F9F9F9; border:1px solid #AAA; padding:5px;"> <span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Argentino-2006-10-30T00:07:00.000Z-Edits_in_the_article_of_the_SGSSI"></span><figure class="mw-halign-left" typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Information_icon.svg" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/3/35/Information_icon.svg/20px-Information_icon.svg.png" decoding="async" width="20" height="20" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/3/35/Information_icon.svg/30px-Information_icon.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/3/35/Information_icon.svg/40px-Information_icon.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="62" data-file-height="62"/></a><figcaption></figcaption></figure> Hello. Please don't forget to provide an <a href="/wiki/Help:Edit_summary" title="Help:Edit summary">edit summary</a>. Thanks, and happy editing. </div><p> —<a href="/wiki/User:Argentino" title="User:Argentino">Argentino</a> <small>(<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Argentino" title="User talk:Argentino">talk</a>/<a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Argentino" title="Special:Contributions/Argentino">cont.</a>)</small> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Apcbg#c-Argentino-2006-10-30T00:07:00.000Z-Edits_in_the_article_of_the_SGSSI" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:07, 30 October 2006 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Argentino-2006-10-30T00:07:00.000Z-Edits_in_the_article_of_the_SGSSI"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Argentino-2006-10-30T00:07:00.000Z-Edits_in_the_article_of_the_SGSSI"></span> </p><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Apcbg-2006-10-30T08:42:00.000Z-Argentino-2006-10-30T00:07:00.000Z"></span>Hi! That was an easily discernible edit, I just added a map. Anyway, thanks for reminding me about edit summaries; sometimes one is in a hurry, and edit summaries cannot be appended later I guess. Best, <a href="/wiki/User:Apcbg" title="User:Apcbg">Apcbg</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Apcbg#c-Apcbg-2006-10-30T08:42:00.000Z-Argentino-2006-10-30T00:07:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">08:42, 30 October 2006 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Apcbg-2006-10-30T08:42:00.000Z-Argentino-2006-10-30T00:07:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Apcbg-2006-10-30T08:42:00.000Z-Argentino-2006-10-30T00:07:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Your_attacks" data-mw-thread-id="h-Your_attacks-2007-01-17T20:48:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Your_attacks-2007-01-17T20:48:00.000Z"></span>Your attacks<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Your_attacks-2007-01-17T20:48:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Apcbg&action=edit&section=28" title="Edit section: Your attacks"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-SqueakBox-2007-01-17T20:48:00.000Z-Your_attacks"></span>Please give some good reasons fopr your attacks on me on the Falkland Island talk page, and explaion why you object to <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Falkland_Islands&diff=96292859&oldid=96253469">this edit</a> so strongly. I remind you there is no policy to say an editor can demand that no other editors edit the opening of any unprotected article, <a href="/wiki/User:SqueakBox" class="mw-redirect" title="User:SqueakBox">SqueakBox</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Apcbg#c-SqueakBox-2007-01-17T20:48:00.000Z-Your_attacks" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:48, 17 January 2007 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-SqueakBox-2007-01-17T20:48:00.000Z-Your_attacks"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-SqueakBox-2007-01-17T20:48:00.000Z-Your_attacks"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Apcbg-2007-01-17T21:56:00.000Z-SqueakBox-2007-01-17T20:48:00.000Z"></span>I am not interested in <i>ad hominem</i> arguments, so I never discussed (let alone attacked) you but particular topics. As already explained, the idea that the islands "have been the subject of a claim to sovereignty by Argentina since the early years of Argentina's independence from Spain in 1810" is factually untrue; neither did Argentina claim independence in 1810 nor did it claim the islands in 1810. <a href="/wiki/User:Apcbg" title="User:Apcbg">Apcbg</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Apcbg#c-Apcbg-2007-01-17T21:56:00.000Z-SqueakBox-2007-01-17T20:48:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:56, 17 January 2007 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Apcbg-2007-01-17T21:56:00.000Z-SqueakBox-2007-01-17T20:48:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Apcbg-2007-01-17T21:56:00.000Z-SqueakBox-2007-01-17T20:48:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-SqueakBox-2007-01-17T22:08:00.000Z-Your_attacks"></span>Er, I got the bit about independence from the Argentine page, where the first date under independence on the info box is 1810, I said absolutelty nothing other than that was the date of independence, I certainly made no other claim, <a href="/wiki/User:SqueakBox" class="mw-redirect" title="User:SqueakBox">SqueakBox</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Apcbg#c-SqueakBox-2007-01-17T22:08:00.000Z-Your_attacks" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:08, 17 January 2007 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-SqueakBox-2007-01-17T22:08:00.000Z-Your_attacks"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-SqueakBox-2007-01-17T22:08:00.000Z-Your_attacks"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Apcbg-2007-01-17T22:58:00.000Z-SqueakBox-2007-01-17T22:08:00.000Z"></span>In your text "since the early years of Argentina's independence from Spain in 1810" the independence appears as an accomplished fact in 1810, which is untrue. You have taken '1810' out of its context; in that infobox '1810' is the date of an event (the May Revolution) that preceded even the declaration of independence (1816 as given in the infobox) let alone the recognition of that independence (wrongly given in the infobox as 1821; the treaty between Spain and Argentina recognizing Argentina's independence was only concluded in the 1860s). The year '1810' was not "the date of independence". <a href="/wiki/User:Apcbg" title="User:Apcbg">Apcbg</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Apcbg#c-Apcbg-2007-01-17T22:58:00.000Z-SqueakBox-2007-01-17T22:08:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:58, 17 January 2007 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Apcbg-2007-01-17T22:58:00.000Z-SqueakBox-2007-01-17T22:08:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Apcbg-2007-01-17T22:58:00.000Z-SqueakBox-2007-01-17T22:08:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-SqueakBox-2007-01-17T23:01:00.000Z-Your_attacks"></span>yes, but we are hardly debating that edit that hasnt stood in the last few days anywway and certainly isnt an issue right now. What of that edit do you currently object to with such vehemence? <a href="/wiki/User:SqueakBox" class="mw-redirect" title="User:SqueakBox">SqueakBox</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Apcbg#c-SqueakBox-2007-01-17T23:01:00.000Z-Your_attacks" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:01, 17 January 2007 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-SqueakBox-2007-01-17T23:01:00.000Z-Your_attacks"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-SqueakBox-2007-01-17T23:01:00.000Z-Your_attacks"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Apcbg-2007-01-17T23:34:00.000Z-SqueakBox-2007-01-17T23:01:00.000Z"></span>We already discussed that and you ended up stating that “claim implies dispute and there is no evidence of a disputed claim to sovereingty before 1833”. Well this statement of yours is untrue, for there were conflicting claims before 1833. First, Spain specifically reiterated its claim in 1811, and did not resign its sovereignty and claims in the region until 1860s; second, Britain protested against Argentina’s activities in 1829 and reiterated its own sovereignty claim which, Britain reminded, had never been given up; and thirdly, the US Government explicitly rejected the Argentine claim and the Argentine attempt to establish effective control by force in 1831, and responded by force in December 1831 - January 1832. <a href="/wiki/User:Apcbg" title="User:Apcbg">Apcbg</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Apcbg#c-Apcbg-2007-01-17T23:34:00.000Z-SqueakBox-2007-01-17T23:01:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:34, 17 January 2007 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Apcbg-2007-01-17T23:34:00.000Z-SqueakBox-2007-01-17T23:01:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Apcbg-2007-01-17T23:34:00.000Z-SqueakBox-2007-01-17T23:01:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-SqueakBox-2007-01-18T02:38:00.000Z-Your_attacks"></span>Okay, source and add. I'm really not trying to stir controversy, my edits were in good faith. I am a Brit who lives in a Hispanc culture, and who believes that both the invasion and the war were wrong but that the first led inexorably to the second. What Galtiri was doing <i>metiendose</i> con Thatcher God alone knows but once she discovered that the reoccupation was politically feasible there was no stopping her, y ademas she was clearly overall a hugely positive influence on the UK. I dont feel my edits were in contrary to what you are trying to say but do think that facts are better than generalisations, I only reverted what someone else had already reverted, add it well sourced and vamos a cambiar el opening and make it better, <a href="/wiki/User:SqueakBox" class="mw-redirect" title="User:SqueakBox">SqueakBox</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Apcbg#c-SqueakBox-2007-01-18T02:38:00.000Z-Your_attacks" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">02:38, 18 January 2007 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-SqueakBox-2007-01-18T02:38:00.000Z-Your_attacks"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-SqueakBox-2007-01-18T02:38:00.000Z-Your_attacks"></span> </p> <dl><dd>"... source and add ... vamos a cambiar el opening and make it better"?</dd></dl> <dl><dd>I would rather not, for <i>"Better is the Enemy of Good Enough"</i> in this case I'm afraid. If I do it, I would be changing unilaterally the wording that was agreed as a compromise between a number of participants having different (all of them sourced) views as to what should be in the preamble.</dd></dl> <dl><dd>The wording "... have been the subject of a claim to sovereignty by Argentina since the early years of Argentina's independence from Spain" is good enough for a preamble, all the (important) details about 1811, 1816, 1820, 1831, 1833, plaques, formal protests, arrests, use of force etc. have their proper place in the main text that follows the preamble.</dd></dl> <dl><dd>"... but do think that facts are better than generalisations" — not in the opening of an article, which is precisely the place for generalizations rather than detailed facts.</dd></dl> <dl><dd>In any case, I wouldn't support any change in the consensus text of the preamble without a new debate with more participants from among the regular contributors to this article. <a href="/wiki/User:Apcbg" title="User:Apcbg">Apcbg</a></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Mercator_Cooper" data-mw-thread-id="h-Mercator_Cooper-2007-01-29T20:43:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Mercator_Cooper-2007-01-29T20:43:00.000Z"></span><a href="/wiki/Mercator_Cooper" title="Mercator Cooper">Mercator Cooper</a><span data-mw-comment-end="h-Mercator_Cooper-2007-01-29T20:43:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Apcbg&action=edit&section=29" title="Edit section: Mercator Cooper"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Americasroof-2007-01-29T20:43:00.000Z-Mercator_Cooper"></span>Thanks for your edits. I thought at first they answered a couple open spots in the article. But now I have a couple questions. Did anybody other than Davis land on Antarctica before Cooper? (although the reference I used does refer to Great Antactica). The wiki article notes the 1821 landing is in dispute. I absolutely cannot find any links to reference to St. Peter in the Bonin Islands. Other accounts of the landing refer to "northern Japanese islands." There of course is some logic if there was an American whalebase in the Bonins. Thanks. <a href="/wiki/User:Americasroof" title="User:Americasroof">Americasroof</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Apcbg#c-Americasroof-2007-01-29T20:43:00.000Z-Mercator_Cooper" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:43, 29 January 2007 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Americasroof-2007-01-29T20:43:00.000Z-Mercator_Cooper"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Americasroof-2007-01-29T20:43:00.000Z-Mercator_Cooper"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Apcbg-2007-01-29T22:59:00.000Z-Americasroof-2007-01-29T20:43:00.000Z"></span>I can recall no records for other landings on the mainland between those of Davis and Cooper, by the way the landing of Davis is documented and I see no reasons to question it; the wiki article cites no sources of possible doubts (so that remark should actually be withdrawn); I would be interested to see such sources if any. There is a <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="http://www.du.edu/~ttyler/ploughboy/boninchol.htm">web reference</a> to 'S. Peter's rock' in Bonin Islands, mentioned in connection with another wreckage. The islands were used by the Americans and the British as a whaling base in the early 19th century; as they were later annexed by Japan, the early European names for the individual islands became possibly superceded by Japanese names. Pribilof Islands are highly improbable; I don't think they were even visited by Japanese at that time, and indeed they were Russian islands and by no means "northern Japanese islands". <a href="/wiki/User:Apcbg" title="User:Apcbg">Apcbg</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Apcbg#c-Apcbg-2007-01-29T22:59:00.000Z-Americasroof-2007-01-29T20:43:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:59, 29 January 2007 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Apcbg-2007-01-29T22:59:00.000Z-Americasroof-2007-01-29T20:43:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Apcbg-2007-01-29T22:59:00.000Z-Americasroof-2007-01-29T20:43:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd>Thanks for going the extra mile! It's a big help! 02:01, 30 January 2007 (UTC)</dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Bulgarian_lev" data-mw-thread-id="h-Bulgarian_lev-2007-03-10T09:08:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Bulgarian_lev-2007-03-10T09:08:00.000Z"></span>Bulgarian lev<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Bulgarian_lev-2007-03-10T09:08:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Apcbg&action=edit&section=30" title="Edit section: Bulgarian lev"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Michael_Zimmermann-2007-03-10T09:08:00.000Z-Bulgarian_lev"></span>Hi Apcbg, you did a small change on <a href="/wiki/Bulgarian_lev" title="Bulgarian lev">Bulgarian lev</a> where you changed a sentence of "the exchange rate Euro to German mark is" to "the exchange rate Euro to German mark was". I reverted your change, because the mark was replaced by the euro, but the exchange rate itself still exists (and is used by the <a href="/wiki/Bundesbank" class="mw-redirect" title="Bundesbank">Bundesbank</a> if you want to exchange some old marks into euro anytime in the future). The past tense is simply not correct then. Cheers, <a href="/wiki/User:Michael_Zimmermann" title="User:Michael Zimmermann">MikeZ</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Apcbg#c-Michael_Zimmermann-2007-03-10T09:08:00.000Z-Bulgarian_lev" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:08, 10 March 2007 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Michael_Zimmermann-2007-03-10T09:08:00.000Z-Bulgarian_lev"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Michael_Zimmermann-2007-03-10T09:08:00.000Z-Bulgarian_lev"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Apcbg-2007-03-10T16:19:00.000Z-Michael_Zimmermann-2007-03-10T09:08:00.000Z"></span>I'll not revert it, although your logic seems questionable to me. That that exchange rate still exists — which means that the Bundesbank is in a position to change it by the way — is a subsequent development quite irrelevant to the Bulgarian Lev. The past time is quite correct because the sentence narrates a past event. Best, <a href="/wiki/User:Apcbg" title="User:Apcbg">Apcbg</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Apcbg#c-Apcbg-2007-03-10T16:19:00.000Z-Michael_Zimmermann-2007-03-10T09:08:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:19, 10 March 2007 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Apcbg-2007-03-10T16:19:00.000Z-Michael_Zimmermann-2007-03-10T09:08:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Apcbg-2007-03-10T16:19:00.000Z-Michael_Zimmermann-2007-03-10T09:08:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Michael_Zimmermann-2007-03-11T08:46:00.000Z-Apcbg-2007-03-10T16:19:00.000Z"></span>Got your point that it's quite irrelevant to the Bulgarian Lev. I just wanted to point out that this same exchange rate is still existing - and, you're right, is fixed. I just feared that the past tense could be read as <i>was at this time</i> and would therefore indicating a rate either non-fixed or non-existent. Cheers, <a href="/wiki/User:Michael_Zimmermann" title="User:Michael Zimmermann">MikeZ</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Apcbg#c-Michael_Zimmermann-2007-03-11T08:46:00.000Z-Apcbg-2007-03-10T16:19:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">08:46, 11 March 2007 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Michael_Zimmermann-2007-03-11T08:46:00.000Z-Apcbg-2007-03-10T16:19:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Michael_Zimmermann-2007-03-11T08:46:00.000Z-Apcbg-2007-03-10T16:19:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Your_map_is_a_featured_picture_candidate" data-mw-thread-id="h-Your_map_is_a_featured_picture_candidate-2007-04-01T18:53:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Your_map_is_a_featured_picture_candidate-2007-04-01T18:53:00.000Z"></span>Your map is a featured picture candidate<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Your_map_is_a_featured_picture_candidate-2007-04-01T18:53:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Apcbg&action=edit&section=31" title="Edit section: Your map is a featured picture candidate"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-TodorBozhinov-2007-04-01T18:53:00.000Z-Your_map_is_a_featured_picture_candidate"></span>Hi! I've just nominated your map <a href="/wiki/File:Livingston-Greenwich-map.jpg" title="File:Livingston-Greenwich-map.jpg">Image:Livingston-Greenwich-map.jpg</a> for <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:FP" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:FP">featured picture status</a>. The nomination is at <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Featured_picture_candidates/Map_of_Livingston_Island_and_Greenwich_Island" title="Wikipedia:Featured picture candidates/Map of Livingston Island and Greenwich Island">Wikipedia:Featured picture candidates/Map of Livingston Island and Greenwich Island</a>. Hope the nomination is successful, it deserves it. Best, <i><a href="/wiki/User:TodorBozhinov" title="User:TodorBozhinov">Todor</a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:TodorBozhinov" title="User talk:TodorBozhinov">→</a><a href="/wiki/User:TodorBozhinov" title="User:TodorBozhinov">Bozhinov</a></i> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Apcbg#c-TodorBozhinov-2007-04-01T18:53:00.000Z-Your_map_is_a_featured_picture_candidate" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:53, 1 April 2007 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-TodorBozhinov-2007-04-01T18:53:00.000Z-Your_map_is_a_featured_picture_candidate"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-TodorBozhinov-2007-04-01T18:53:00.000Z-Your_map_is_a_featured_picture_candidate"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="The_beginning_of_the_secular_celebration_of_24th_of_May" data-mw-thread-id="h-The_beginning_of_the_secular_celebration_of_24th_of_May-2007-05-23T10:02:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-The_beginning_of_the_secular_celebration_of_24th_of_May-2007-05-23T10:02:00.000Z"></span>The beginning of the secular celebration of 24th of May<span data-mw-comment-end="h-The_beginning_of_the_secular_celebration_of_24th_of_May-2007-05-23T10:02:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Apcbg&action=edit&section=32" title="Edit section: The beginning of the secular celebration of 24th of May"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Jackanapes-2007-05-23T10:02:00.000Z-The_beginning_of_the_secular_celebration_of_24th_of_May"></span>Dear Apcbg, on the first place it is inappropriate to erase sourced information even if there are newer points of view on the same matter. Second, if you want to create something really relevant, you have to offer scientific publication, written by some specialist in History, but not a jubilee speech of the head of the Bulgarian Academy of Sciences simply because Academician Ivan Yuhnovski has built his career in the sphere of physical chemistry as far as I know! I don't think that his too indefinite words in this speech could resolve the problem. And finally, at least - as responsible editors - we must quote both theses. Best wishes, <a href="/wiki/User:Jackanapes" class="mw-redirect" title="User:Jackanapes">Jackanapes</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Apcbg#c-Jackanapes-2007-05-23T10:02:00.000Z-The_beginning_of_the_secular_celebration_of_24th_of_May" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:02, 23 May 2007 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Jackanapes-2007-05-23T10:02:00.000Z-The_beginning_of_the_secular_celebration_of_24th_of_May"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Jackanapes-2007-05-23T10:02:00.000Z-The_beginning_of_the_secular_celebration_of_24th_of_May"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Your_Reverts" data-mw-thread-id="h-Your_Reverts-2007-05-29T22:20:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Your_Reverts-2007-05-29T22:20:00.000Z"></span>Your Reverts<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Your_Reverts-2007-05-29T22:20:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Apcbg&action=edit&section=33" title="Edit section: Your Reverts"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Argentini_an-2007-05-29T22:20:00.000Z-Your_Reverts"></span>Please don't delete statements only because you don't like its contents. <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=South_Georgia_and_the_South_Sandwich_Islands&diff=134306096&oldid=134188953">Here</a> you deleted a fact, claiming it was unsourced; however it had its link to the source. If there is a conflict between your interests and the informaiton in Wikipedia <small>(A Wikipedia conflict of interest is an incompatibility between the purpose of Wikipedia, to produce a neutral encyclopedia, and the aims of individual editors. <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:COI" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:COI">WP:COI</a> )</small> send in a <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:RFC" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:RFC">request for comment</a>. --<a href="/wiki/User:Argentini_an" title="User:Argentini an">Argentini an</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Apcbg#c-Argentini_an-2007-05-29T22:20:00.000Z-Your_Reverts" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:20, 29 May 2007 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Argentini_an-2007-05-29T22:20:00.000Z-Your_Reverts"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Argentini_an-2007-05-29T22:20:00.000Z-Your_Reverts"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Re:" data-mw-thread-id="h-Re:-2007-05-30T20:36:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Re:-2007-05-30T20:36:00.000Z"></span>Re:<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Re:-2007-05-30T20:36:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Apcbg&action=edit&section=34" title="Edit section: Re:"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Argentini_an-2007-05-30T20:36:00.000Z-Re:"></span>I cant find a webpage to quote, however the book <i>La Infanteria de Marina en el conflicto del Atlantico Sur</i>; (Jorge Alberto Erecaborde) says "La Compañia Argentina de Pesca SA al amparo de las leyes argentinas <b>y bajo su bandera</b> se instala en Grytviken - San Pedro - Georgias del Sur" </p><p>I'm afraid nobody will be able to check it, but I belive it is a reliable source. Do you agree? </p> <dl><dd>I'm Sorry, I forgot the commas. in the Spanish Language the structures that add information to the statement (place, cause, method, etc) can be sometimes put before the verb. The quotation and it's translation in English : <br/></dd></dl> <p>"La Compañia Argentina de Pesca SA<i><b>,</b></i> al amparo de las leyes argentinas y bajo su bandera<i><b>,</b></i> se instala en Grytviken - San Pedro - Georgias del Sur"<br/> Litteral:<br/> "The Argenitne Fishing Comany [SA = Inc.??] settles in Grytviked - Georgia Island - South Georgia Islands protected by the Argentine laws and under its flag"<br/> Meaning:<br/> "The Argentine Fishing Comany [SA = Inc.??] setled in Grytviken protected by the Argentine laws and under its flag"<br/> I dont know if it is better to put "the Argentine" rather than "its" before flag. The point is, it does say the argentine flag flied over the islands. If you like you can ask other users' interpretation, but I am certain they wont provide a much different translation for you.<br/> </p><p>Google's translation is " La Compañia Argentina de Pesca SA, under protection of the Argentine laws and low its flag, settles in Grytviken "--<a href="/wiki/User:Argentini_an" title="User:Argentini an">Argentini an</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Apcbg#c-Argentini_an-2007-05-30T20:36:00.000Z-Re:" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:36, 30 May 2007 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Argentini_an-2007-05-30T20:36:00.000Z-Re:"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Argentini_an-2007-05-30T20:36:00.000Z-Re:"></span> </p><p><br/><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Argentini_an-2007-05-30T20:41:00.000Z-Re:"></span> Clarification: San Pedro is the name given to South Georgia by the <i>León</i> in 1756. --<a href="/wiki/User:Argentini_an" title="User:Argentini an">Argentini an</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Apcbg#c-Argentini_an-2007-05-30T20:41:00.000Z-Re:" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:41, 30 May 2007 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Argentini_an-2007-05-30T20:41:00.000Z-Re:"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Argentini_an-2007-05-30T20:41:00.000Z-Re:"></span> </p> <dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Apcbg-2007-05-30T21:24:00.000Z-Argentini_an-2007-05-30T20:41:00.000Z"></span>I trust that you are reporting correctly that text from the book <i>La Infantería de Marina de la Armada Argentina en el Conflicto del Atlántico Sur 1982 - Cronología</i> by Jorge A. Errecaborde, but it contains no concrete facts of an event with the Argentine flag being raised on South Georgia, the Argentine anthem sung, and Argentine possession proclaimed. That a company registered in Argentina is "al amparo de las leyes argentinas y bajo su bandera" does not imply that people working for the company bring the Argentine law and flag to new lands. The text does not say any such thing. I don't think that your search for a source supporting your claim that Larsen and his team raised the Argentine flag, sang the Argentine anthem, and proclaimed Argentine possession. If that was the case, there would have been first-hand records in the diaries of participants and other publications. That not being the case, the authoritative Argentine source, <i>Historia de las Relaciones Exteriores Argentinas etc.</i> states clearly that no Argentine flag was raised by the company on the island. Why on earth would they do it? Those were not Argentine officials — unlike Captain James Cook who was a British official instructed by the Admiralty to take possession of South Georgia for Britain, which he did in 1775 in a ceremony on the coast recorded in the diaries and published in the books written by three participants in that event — moreover, there was not a single Argentine among Larsen's team that built Grytviken. All 60 of them were Norwegians, professional whalers from Norway (no Argentine scrap merchants indeed :-).</dd></dl></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd>To repeat: You are claiming a conrete act, raising a flag in a particular place. No such concrete event is reported, and I object to your attempt to attribute nonexistent concreteness to the above general statement that could be made for any company registered in Argentina.</dd></dl></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd>By the way, I know what "San Pedro" is; should you care to read the article you are trying to edit (and of which I am the original author) you might find the explanation of that name too. <a href="/wiki/User:Apcbg" title="User:Apcbg">Apcbg</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Apcbg#c-Apcbg-2007-05-30T21:24:00.000Z-Argentini_an-2007-05-30T20:41:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:24, 30 May 2007 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Apcbg-2007-05-30T21:24:00.000Z-Argentini_an-2007-05-30T20:41:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Apcbg-2007-05-30T21:24:00.000Z-Argentini_an-2007-05-30T20:41:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Thanks" data-mw-thread-id="h-Thanks-2007-05-31T00:31:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Thanks-2007-05-31T00:31:00.000Z"></span>Thanks<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Thanks-2007-05-31T00:31:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Apcbg&action=edit&section=35" title="Edit section: Thanks"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Narson-2007-05-31T00:31:00.000Z-Thanks"></span>Wanted to thank you for the work you've put in on the expulsion question as well as other things. Really not something I expected to get so involved in, I was just perusing the history out of blind curiosity, spotted an inconsistancy and tried to fix it. It seems some subjects are covered in mouse traps. Though, it has got me into the general Falkland info. <s>As you seem fluent (to some degree) in spanish, I was wondering if you could translate the name of the ref used by Argentini an in the south georgia article, I'm having trouble locating the book through any method.</s> <a href="/wiki/User:Narson" title="User:Narson">Narson</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Apcbg#c-Narson-2007-05-31T00:31:00.000Z-Thanks" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:31, 31 May 2007 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Narson-2007-05-31T00:31:00.000Z-Thanks"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Narson-2007-05-31T00:31:00.000Z-Thanks"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="{{Ancient-Thrace-bio-stub}}" data-mw-thread-id="h-{{Ancient-Thrace-bio-stub}}-2007-06-03T00:47:00.000Z"><span id=".7B.7BAncient-Thrace-bio-stub.7D.7D"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-{{Ancient-Thrace-bio-stub}}-2007-06-03T00:47:00.000Z"></span><span class="nowrap">{{</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Template:Ancient-Thrace-bio-stub&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Template:Ancient-Thrace-bio-stub (page does not exist)">Ancient-Thrace-bio-stub</a><span class="nowrap">}}</span><span data-mw-comment-end="h-{{Ancient-Thrace-bio-stub}}-2007-06-03T00:47:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Apcbg&action=edit&section=36" title="Edit section: {{Ancient-Thrace-bio-stub}}"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Grutness-2007-06-03T00:47:00.000Z-{{Ancient-Thrace-bio-stub}}"></span>Hi - a stub template or category which you created has been nominated for deletion or renaming at <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Stub_types_for_deletion" title="Wikipedia:Stub types for deletion">Wikipedia:Stub types for deletion</a>. The stub type, which was not proposed at <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Stub_sorting/Proposals" title="Wikipedia:WikiProject Stub sorting/Proposals">Wikipedia:WikiProject Stub sorting/Proposals</a>, does not meet the standard requirements for a stub type, either through being incorrectly named, ambiguously scoped, or through failure to meet standards relating to the current stub hierarchy or likely size, as explained at <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Stub" title="Wikipedia:Stub">Wikipedia:Stub</a>. Please feel free to make any comments at <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:SFD" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:SFD">WP:SFD</a> regarding this stub type, and in future, please consider proposing new stub types first! <a href="/wiki/User:Grutness" title="User:Grutness">Grutness</a>...<i><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Grutness" title="User talk:Grutness"><small style="color:#008822;">wha?</small></a></i> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Apcbg#c-Grutness-2007-06-03T00:47:00.000Z-{{Ancient-Thrace-bio-stub}}" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:47, 3 June 2007 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Grutness-2007-06-03T00:47:00.000Z-{{Ancient-Thrace-bio-stub}}"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Grutness-2007-06-03T00:47:00.000Z-{{Ancient-Thrace-bio-stub}}"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Apcbg-2007-06-04T08:29:00.000Z-Grutness-2007-06-03T00:47:00.000Z"></span>The first book at hand I consulted, <i>Thracians</i> by Alexander Fol and Valeria Fol, ISBN: 978-9549717181 has fifty-odd persons mentioned, not just kings and other nobles but also priests, poets, singers, artists etc. that could possibly need such a bio stub. In any case, if this template were deleted I trust there would be no objection to inserting in the relevant present articles a footnote to the same effect with no template used? I have no problems with having the template renamed 'Ancient-Thrace-stub'. <a href="/wiki/User:Apcbg" title="User:Apcbg">Apcbg</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Apcbg#c-Apcbg-2007-06-04T08:29:00.000Z-Grutness-2007-06-03T00:47:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">08:29, 4 June 2007 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Apcbg-2007-06-04T08:29:00.000Z-Grutness-2007-06-03T00:47:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Apcbg-2007-06-04T08:29:00.000Z-Grutness-2007-06-03T00:47:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Grutness-2007-06-04T09:50:00.000Z-{{Ancient-Thrace-bio-stub}}"></span>Even if there were fifty <i>currently existing</i> stubs, the stub type would not reach the threshold for a separate stub category. Possible, currently non-existent, stubs are not taken into consideration. The reason for this should be clear - it's possible to find 60 things to write about on just about any subject, but since the primary aim of having separate stub types is to make it easier for editors to find particular stubs by categorising them in reasonable numbers (not so many as to be daunting, not too few to require searching through many categories), there's no point in pointing them towards stubs that don't currently exist. A plain Ancient-Thrace-stub would be a possibility, though I've a feeling it has been suggested and rejected in the past due to the small number of articles. As to inserting a footnote, there'd be no problem from the stub-sorters, but it wouldn't really serve any purpose. As I said, the main purpose of stub templates is to categorise articles for editors. A footnote wouldn't do that - all a footnote could say is that an article is a stub, which should be pretty obvious to anyone seeing it. And other editors to the articles might not like the idea and remove any such note. </p><p>If you're keen, a better idea might be to find other editors working on Ancient Thrace (via the histories of articles on that subject), and start a small WikiProject on the subject (<a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProjects" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:WikiProjects">Wikipedia:WikiProjects</a> gives some pointers on how to do this). That way you could list and assess all articles relating to the subject on a WikiProject subpage, and also list articles which need to be made. If it's successful, then you might soon get to the point where having a stub types does make sense due to the number of new articles created. <a href="/wiki/User:Grutness" title="User:Grutness">Grutness</a>...<i><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Grutness" title="User talk:Grutness"><small style="color:#008822;">wha?</small></a></i> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Apcbg#c-Grutness-2007-06-04T09:50:00.000Z-{{Ancient-Thrace-bio-stub}}" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:50, 4 June 2007 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Grutness-2007-06-04T09:50:00.000Z-{{Ancient-Thrace-bio-stub}}"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Grutness-2007-06-04T09:50:00.000Z-{{Ancient-Thrace-bio-stub}}"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Grutness-2007-06-05T01:27:00.000Z-Grutness-2007-06-04T09:50:00.000Z"></span>Hi again - you wrote: <i>I see your points. Apparently there is a rule on stubs requiring 60 stubs, there are possibly less than that Thrace-related stubs at present, hence no Thrace-stub template. My topics of contribution to Wikipedia are not so much in the stub field, or Thracian history for that matter. I just saw several articles on ancient Thracian persons (the latter having Antarctic geographical features named for them, which had been my original starting point) using the 'Ancient-Greece-bio-stub' template which did not seem correct as those people definitely were not Greeks, ancient Thrace being a distinct civilization even if neighbouring. (It's like an Irish biographical article using the 'England-bio-stub' template on account of having an insufficient number of Irish stubs ...) So how would you suggest to avoid such misleading labelling, just revert them or what?</i></dd></dl> <dl><dd>A good question. I might have a possible compromise answer - I'm going to propose an Ancient-Euro-bio-stub for biographies or similar of ancient European people in general, specifically for all those not covered by the two legit stubs for Ancient Romans and Ancient Greeks. That would almost certainly reach 60 stubs, and given that many editors with knowledge of one aspect of ancient Europe would also have some knowledgeof other aspects, it might be a reasonable category to hve. BTW, the reason for the 60 threshold is twofold - it splits the stubs into reasonably "bite-sizes" for editors looking for stubs to expand (not so many as to be too daunting or vague and not so precise that an editor might need to look through a dozen categories to find articles to expand), and it also reduces the necessary maintenance work for stubsorters. <a href="/wiki/User:Grutness" title="User:Grutness">Grutness</a>...<i><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Grutness" title="User talk:Grutness"><small style="color:#008822;">wha?</small></a></i> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Apcbg#c-Grutness-2007-06-05T01:27:00.000Z-Grutness-2007-06-04T09:50:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">01:27, 5 June 2007 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Grutness-2007-06-05T01:27:00.000Z-Grutness-2007-06-04T09:50:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Grutness-2007-06-05T01:27:00.000Z-Grutness-2007-06-04T09:50:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><span typeof="mw:Error mw:File"><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Upload?wpDestFile=Zlatna_maska_teres-2.jpg" class="new" title="File:Zlatna maska teres-2.jpg"><span class="mw-file-element mw-broken-media" data-width="44"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Apcbg-2007-06-05T11:24:00.000Z-Grutness-2007-06-05T01:27:00.000Z"></span>File:Zlatna maska teres-2.jpg</span></a></span>That would be a satisfactory solution I believe. Just one suggestion: Could we please illustrate the new Ancient-Euro-bio-stub with the picture used in Ancient-Thrace-bio-stub? It's the golden mask of a Thracian king, and arguably the Thracians upheld the reputedly earliest cultural tradition in Europe; as you possibly know the world's oldest gold (dated 46th century BC) was found near <a href="/wiki/Varna_Necropolis" title="Varna Necropolis">Varna</a>. <a href="/wiki/User:Apcbg" title="User:Apcbg">Apcbg</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Apcbg#c-Apcbg-2007-06-05T11:24:00.000Z-Grutness-2007-06-05T01:27:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:24, 5 June 2007 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Apcbg-2007-06-05T11:24:00.000Z-Grutness-2007-06-05T01:27:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Apcbg-2007-06-05T11:24:00.000Z-Grutness-2007-06-05T01:27:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Grutness-2007-06-05T23:32:00.000Z-Grutness-2007-06-04T09:50:00.000Z"></span>See my reply at <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Stub_sorting/Proposals/2007/June" title="Wikipedia:WikiProject Stub sorting/Proposals/2007/June">Wikipedia:WikiProject_Stub_sorting/Proposals/2007/June</a>. <a href="/wiki/User:Grutness" title="User:Grutness">Grutness</a>...<i><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Grutness" title="User talk:Grutness"><small style="color:#008822;">wha?</small></a></i> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Apcbg#c-Grutness-2007-06-05T23:32:00.000Z-Grutness-2007-06-04T09:50:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:32, 5 June 2007 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Grutness-2007-06-05T23:32:00.000Z-Grutness-2007-06-04T09:50:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Grutness-2007-06-05T23:32:00.000Z-Grutness-2007-06-04T09:50:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Request_for_edit_summary" data-mw-thread-id="h-Request_for_edit_summary-2007-06-05T02:59:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Request_for_edit_summary-2007-06-05T02:59:00.000Z"></span>Request for edit summary<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Request_for_edit_summary-2007-06-05T02:59:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Apcbg&action=edit&section=37" title="Edit section: Request for edit summary"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Oleg_Alexandrov-2007-06-05T02:59:00.000Z-Request_for_edit_summary"></span>It would be nice if you could use an edit summary more often. Thanks! <a href="/wiki/User:Oleg_Alexandrov" title="User:Oleg Alexandrov">Oleg Alexandrov</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Oleg_Alexandrov" title="User talk:Oleg Alexandrov">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Apcbg#c-Oleg_Alexandrov-2007-06-05T02:59:00.000Z-Request_for_edit_summary" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">02:59, 5 June 2007 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Oleg_Alexandrov-2007-06-05T02:59:00.000Z-Request_for_edit_summary"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Oleg_Alexandrov-2007-06-05T02:59:00.000Z-Request_for_edit_summary"></span> </p> <dl><dd>Dear Oleg, thanks for your suggestion; yes I know it helps but time is so precious ... I'll be trying. <a href="/wiki/User:Apcbg" title="User:Apcbg">Apcbg</a></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="1833" data-mw-thread-id="h-1833-2007-06-29T00:04:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-1833-2007-06-29T00:04:00.000Z"></span>1833<span data-mw-comment-end="h-1833-2007-06-29T00:04:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Apcbg&action=edit&section=38" title="Edit section: 1833"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Narson-2007-06-29T00:04:00.000Z-1833"></span>It seems the 1833 'expulsion' issue is going to rear its head again on the Sovereignty of the Falkland Islands page again. If it becomes an issue again I would appreciate the help, as you did such great research into it previously (And debunked the idea far more than I thought would be possible). <a href="/wiki/User:Narson" title="User:Narson">Narson</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Apcbg#c-Narson-2007-06-29T00:04:00.000Z-1833" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:04, 29 June 2007 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Narson-2007-06-29T00:04:00.000Z-1833"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Narson-2007-06-29T00:04:00.000Z-1833"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Narson-2007-06-29T13:10:00.000Z-Narson-2007-06-29T00:04:00.000Z"></span>I've struck the compromise idea. As you pointed out, says more than I wanted it to. I really hate the whole damn sentence, honestly. I have no idea why its pegged onto a sentence about falkland islanders citizenship and isn't down in Argentinian claims. I just have no desire for the fight with the Argentinian and Irish editors it would take. <a href="/wiki/User:Narson" title="User:Narson">Narson</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Apcbg#c-Narson-2007-06-29T13:10:00.000Z-Narson-2007-06-29T00:04:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:10, 29 June 2007 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Narson-2007-06-29T13:10:00.000Z-Narson-2007-06-29T00:04:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Narson-2007-06-29T13:10:00.000Z-Narson-2007-06-29T00:04:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="верно_ли_е?" data-mw-thread-id="h-верно_ли_е?-2007-07-13T14:23:00.000Z"><span id=".D0.B2.D0.B5.D1.80.D0.BD.D0.BE_.D0.BB.D0.B8_.D0.B5.3F"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-верно_ли_е?-2007-07-13T14:23:00.000Z"></span>верно ли е?<span data-mw-comment-end="h-верно_ли_е?-2007-07-13T14:23:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Apcbg&action=edit&section=39" title="Edit section: верно ли е?"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Guitardemon666-2007-07-13T14:23:00.000Z-верно_ли_е?"></span>верно ли е че има българи на антарктика :D искам и аз да дойда... :) аз съм от македония и мисля че е много добре че нашия западен съсед има хора на антарктика... слабо говоря български, ма мисля че разбра кво искам да ти каза :) </p><p>поздрав </p><p><a href="/wiki/User:Guitardemon666" title="User:Guitardemon666">Guitardemon666</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Apcbg#c-Guitardemon666-2007-07-13T14:23:00.000Z-верно_ли_е?" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:23, 13 July 2007 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Guitardemon666-2007-07-13T14:23:00.000Z-верно_ли_е?"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Guitardemon666-2007-07-13T14:23:00.000Z-верно_ли_е?"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Sovereignty_of_the_Falkland_Islands" data-mw-thread-id="h-Sovereignty_of_the_Falkland_Islands-2007-09-04T08:31:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Sovereignty_of_the_Falkland_Islands-2007-09-04T08:31:00.000Z"></span><a href="/wiki/Sovereignty_of_the_Falkland_Islands" class="mw-redirect" title="Sovereignty of the Falkland Islands">Sovereignty of the Falkland Islands</a><span data-mw-comment-end="h-Sovereignty_of_the_Falkland_Islands-2007-09-04T08:31:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Apcbg&action=edit&section=40" title="Edit section: Sovereignty of the Falkland Islands"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Justin_A_Kuntz-2007-09-04T08:31:00.000Z-Sovereignty_of_the_Falkland_Islands"></span>I was wondering if with your knowledge of the History of the Falklands Islands you could provide a date for the Spanish departure in 1811. We have a nominal date of January 8th 1811 from one source but its unclear whether this is the actual date of departure or that of the order. <a href="/wiki/User:Justin_A_Kuntz" title="User:Justin A Kuntz">Justin A Kuntz</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Apcbg#c-Justin_A_Kuntz-2007-09-04T08:31:00.000Z-Sovereignty_of_the_Falkland_Islands" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">08:31, 4 September 2007 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Justin_A_Kuntz-2007-09-04T08:31:00.000Z-Sovereignty_of_the_Falkland_Islands"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Justin_A_Kuntz-2007-09-04T08:31:00.000Z-Sovereignty_of_the_Falkland_Islands"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Apcbg-2007-09-04T17:28:00.000Z-Justin_A_Kuntz-2007-09-04T08:31:00.000Z"></span>Apparently February 13th; see my sourced response on the article's talk page. <a href="/wiki/User:Apcbg" title="User:Apcbg">Apcbg</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Apcbg#c-Apcbg-2007-09-04T17:28:00.000Z-Justin_A_Kuntz-2007-09-04T08:31:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:28, 4 September 2007 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Apcbg-2007-09-04T17:28:00.000Z-Justin_A_Kuntz-2007-09-04T08:31:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Apcbg-2007-09-04T17:28:00.000Z-Justin_A_Kuntz-2007-09-04T08:31:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="History_of_the_Falkland_Islands" data-mw-thread-id="h-History_of_the_Falkland_Islands-2007-09-12T20:51:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-History_of_the_Falkland_Islands-2007-09-12T20:51:00.000Z"></span>History of the Falkland Islands<span data-mw-comment-end="h-History_of_the_Falkland_Islands-2007-09-12T20:51:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Apcbg&action=edit&section=41" title="Edit section: History of the Falkland Islands"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Justin_A_Kuntz-2007-09-12T20:51:00.000Z-History_of_the_Falkland_Islands"></span>Hi there, I could do with picking your brains again. I've an edit proposed in <a href="/wiki/Talk:History_of_the_Falkland_Islands" title="Talk:History of the Falkland Islands">Talk:History_of_the_Falkland_Islands</a> that includes a contribution suggested by a comment you made. I'm having a problem finding a citation and may go with an alternate text instead. Any chance you might remember the source? <a href="/wiki/User:Justin_A_Kuntz" title="User:Justin A Kuntz">Justin A Kuntz</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Apcbg#c-Justin_A_Kuntz-2007-09-12T20:51:00.000Z-History_of_the_Falkland_Islands" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:51, 12 September 2007 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Justin_A_Kuntz-2007-09-12T20:51:00.000Z-History_of_the_Falkland_Islands"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Justin_A_Kuntz-2007-09-12T20:51:00.000Z-History_of_the_Falkland_Islands"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Apcbg-2007-09-13T18:00:00.000Z-History_of_the_Falkland_Islands"></span>According to Admiral Laurio Destéfani, “Attempts have been made to create a legend of courageous gauchos who attacked and defeated the British, but this is just imagination”, with the true story of what happened being “stated in 42 documents published by the National Academy of History”. As for the subsequent developments, Destéfani maintains that “Rivero and three other men were sent to England, but there the court ruled they could not be tried because the Malvinas had not been incorporated yet to the British Empire”. That incorporation happened in 1841 with the appointment of the first Lieutenant Governor, Richard Moody who was instructed by Lord John Russell: “... immediately after your arrival you have to find the means to administer law and justice within the colony. In a proclamation you’ll notify the inhabitants of the Falklands that the law of England is in effect in the islands; you’ll make sure this is complied with in any part of the islands where it is possible to find competent people to perform the offices of judges or magistrates”.<sup id="cite_ref-1" class="reference"><a href="#cite_note-1"><span class="cite-bracket">[</span>1<span class="cite-bracket">]</span></a></sup> Hope this helps.<br/></dd></dl> <dl><dd><div class="mw-references-wrap"><ol class="references"></ol></div></dd></dl> <li id="cite_note-1"><span class="mw-cite-backlink"><b><a href="#cite_ref-1">^</a></b></span> <span class="reference-text">Laurio H. Destéfani, The Malvinas, the South Georgias and the South Sandwich Islands, the conflict with Britain, Buenos Aires, 1982</span> </li> <p><a href="/wiki/User:Apcbg" title="User:Apcbg">Apcbg</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Apcbg#c-Apcbg-2007-09-13T18:00:00.000Z-History_of_the_Falkland_Islands" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:00, 13 September 2007 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Apcbg-2007-09-13T18:00:00.000Z-History_of_the_Falkland_Islands"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Apcbg-2007-09-13T18:00:00.000Z-History_of_the_Falkland_Islands"></span> </p><p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Justin_A_Kuntz-2007-09-14T08:44:00.000Z-History_of_the_Falkland_Islands"></span>Cheers I can work with that. <a href="/wiki/User:Justin_A_Kuntz" title="User:Justin A Kuntz">Justin A Kuntz</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Apcbg#c-Justin_A_Kuntz-2007-09-14T08:44:00.000Z-History_of_the_Falkland_Islands" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">08:44, 14 September 2007 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Justin_A_Kuntz-2007-09-14T08:44:00.000Z-History_of_the_Falkland_Islands"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Justin_A_Kuntz-2007-09-14T08:44:00.000Z-History_of_the_Falkland_Islands"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Jewett" data-mw-thread-id="h-Jewett-2007-09-25T20:46:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Jewett-2007-09-25T20:46:00.000Z"></span>Jewett<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Jewett-2007-09-25T20:46:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Apcbg&action=edit&section=42" title="Edit section: Jewett"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Justin_A_Kuntz-2007-09-25T20:46:00.000Z-Jewett"></span>I was working from text on one of the Falklands history sites, if I've got it wrong feel free to change it. I was working on obtaining several reference works but the library hasn't got them yet. I did think it kinda weird if he was sent to the islands, that he first went on an 8 months voyage, then waited for a month before raising the flag. <i><a href="/wiki/User:Justin_A_Kuntz" title="User:Justin A Kuntz">Justin</a></i> <small><i><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Justin_A_Kuntz" title="User talk:Justin A Kuntz">talk</a></i></small> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Apcbg#c-Justin_A_Kuntz-2007-09-25T20:46:00.000Z-Jewett" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:46, 25 September 2007 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Justin_A_Kuntz-2007-09-25T20:46:00.000Z-Jewett"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Justin_A_Kuntz-2007-09-25T20:46:00.000Z-Jewett"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Justin_A_Kuntz-2007-09-26T20:26:00.000Z-Justin_A_Kuntz-2007-09-25T20:46:00.000Z"></span>Cheers for that source, definitely POV but does include some interesting information. I've been looking to establish whether Whittington and Vernet ever met and that site confirms that Vernet sold Whittington his Falklands concessions. <i><a href="/wiki/User:Justin_A_Kuntz" title="User:Justin A Kuntz">Justin</a></i> <small><i><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Justin_A_Kuntz" title="User talk:Justin A Kuntz">talk</a></i></small> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Apcbg#c-Justin_A_Kuntz-2007-09-26T20:26:00.000Z-Justin_A_Kuntz-2007-09-25T20:46:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:26, 26 September 2007 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Justin_A_Kuntz-2007-09-26T20:26:00.000Z-Justin_A_Kuntz-2007-09-25T20:46:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Justin_A_Kuntz-2007-09-26T20:26:00.000Z-Justin_A_Kuntz-2007-09-25T20:46:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Justin_A_Kuntz-2007-09-26T20:28:00.000Z-Justin_A_Kuntz-2007-09-26T20:26:00.000Z"></span>PS working on a translation of the Jewett declaration, its hard work translating Spanish of that era. I've asked for some help from the wiki translation group. Have a peak at <a href="/wiki/Talk:Sovereignty_of_the_Falkland_Islands" class="mw-redirect" title="Talk:Sovereignty of the Falkland Islands">Talk:Sovereignty of the Falkland Islands</a> for my attempt but I'm not sure I've got it right. <i><a href="/wiki/User:Justin_A_Kuntz" title="User:Justin A Kuntz">Justin</a></i> <small><i><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Justin_A_Kuntz" title="User talk:Justin A Kuntz">talk</a></i></small> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Apcbg#c-Justin_A_Kuntz-2007-09-26T20:28:00.000Z-Justin_A_Kuntz-2007-09-26T20:26:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:28, 26 September 2007 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Justin_A_Kuntz-2007-09-26T20:28:00.000Z-Justin_A_Kuntz-2007-09-26T20:26:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Justin_A_Kuntz-2007-09-26T20:28:00.000Z-Justin_A_Kuntz-2007-09-26T20:26:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="origins" data-mw-thread-id="h-origins-2007-10-11T08:01:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-origins-2007-10-11T08:01:00.000Z"></span>origins<span data-mw-comment-end="h-origins-2007-10-11T08:01:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Apcbg&action=edit&section=43" title="Edit section: origins"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-RHaworth-2007-10-11T08:01:00.000Z-origins"></span>I have moved <a href="/w/index.php?title=Apcbg/Origins_of_Falkland_Islanders&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Apcbg/Origins of Falkland Islanders (page does not exist)">Apcbg/Origins of Falkland Islanders</a> to <a href="/wiki/User:Apcbg/Origins_of_Falkland_Islanders" class="mw-redirect" title="User:Apcbg/Origins of Falkland Islanders">User:Apcbg/Origins of Falkland Islanders</a>. -- <a href="/wiki/User:RHaworth" title="User:RHaworth">RHaworth</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Apcbg#c-RHaworth-2007-10-11T08:01:00.000Z-origins" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">08:01, 11 October 2007 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-RHaworth-2007-10-11T08:01:00.000Z-origins"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-RHaworth-2007-10-11T08:01:00.000Z-origins"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Kudos" data-mw-thread-id="h-Kudos-2007-10-19T08:59:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Kudos-2007-10-19T08:59:00.000Z"></span>Kudos<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Kudos-2007-10-19T08:59:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Apcbg&action=edit&section=44" title="Edit section: Kudos"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Narson-2007-10-19T08:59:00.000Z-Kudos"></span>As I told Justin when he pointed me to that origins article, it looks really good and is suprisingly informative (Considering its something I wouldn't have normally been interested in, certainly not have created such a thorough article on). Hopefully it will put an end to the 1833 expulsion myth. Still. Very good article. Kudos. If I could work out how, you'd definatly get a barnstar for that one. <a href="/wiki/User:Narson" title="User:Narson">Narson</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Apcbg#c-Narson-2007-10-19T08:59:00.000Z-Kudos" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">08:59, 19 October 2007 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Narson-2007-10-19T08:59:00.000Z-Kudos"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Narson-2007-10-19T08:59:00.000Z-Kudos"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Justin_A_Kuntz-2007-10-19T17:48:00.000Z-Narson-2007-10-19T08:59:00.000Z"></span>I'd second that, its an excellent well written article.</dd></dl> <dl><dd>As an aside, has Argentina ever ratified the 1958 UN Convention on the Continental Shelf? I believe I read somewhere that it never has. <i><a href="/wiki/User:Justin_A_Kuntz" title="User:Justin A Kuntz">Justin</a></i> <small><i><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Justin_A_Kuntz" title="User talk:Justin A Kuntz">talk</a></i></small> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Apcbg#c-Justin_A_Kuntz-2007-10-19T17:48:00.000Z-Narson-2007-10-19T08:59:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:48, 19 October 2007 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Justin_A_Kuntz-2007-10-19T17:48:00.000Z-Narson-2007-10-19T08:59:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Justin_A_Kuntz-2007-10-19T17:48:00.000Z-Narson-2007-10-19T08:59:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Apcbg-2007-10-19T18:30:00.000Z-Justin_A_Kuntz-2007-10-19T17:48:00.000Z"></span>Narson, Justin, thank you so much for your kind words, and let me stress that we've developed that article jointly with <a href="/wiki/User:JacobNapoleon" title="User:JacobNapoleon">JacobNapoleon</a> whose contribution is by no means lesser than mine.</dd></dl></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd>That 1958 Convention has been superceded by the 1982 Law of Sea Convention to which Argentina acceded in 1995, however none of these provides any basis whatsoever for claming islands — ang the burden of proof (providing relevant source) is up to those claiming otherwise. <a href="/wiki/User:Apcbg" title="User:Apcbg">Apcbg</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Apcbg#c-Apcbg-2007-10-19T18:30:00.000Z-Justin_A_Kuntz-2007-10-19T17:48:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:30, 19 October 2007 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Apcbg-2007-10-19T18:30:00.000Z-Justin_A_Kuntz-2007-10-19T17:48:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Apcbg-2007-10-19T18:30:00.000Z-Justin_A_Kuntz-2007-10-19T17:48:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Justin_A_Kuntz-2007-10-19T22:18:00.000Z-Apcbg-2007-10-19T18:30:00.000Z"></span>Ah, should've known you'd be 10 steps ahead of me :) When I read it, I thought it was ironic that they used it in their claim but had never actually ratified it. <i><a href="/wiki/User:Justin_A_Kuntz" title="User:Justin A Kuntz">Justin</a></i> <small><i><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Justin_A_Kuntz" title="User talk:Justin A Kuntz">talk</a></i></small> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Apcbg#c-Justin_A_Kuntz-2007-10-19T22:18:00.000Z-Apcbg-2007-10-19T18:30:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:18, 19 October 2007 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Justin_A_Kuntz-2007-10-19T22:18:00.000Z-Apcbg-2007-10-19T18:30:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Justin_A_Kuntz-2007-10-19T22:18:00.000Z-Apcbg-2007-10-19T18:30:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><a rel="nofollow" class="external autonumber" href="http://untreaty.un.org/ENGLISH/bible/englishinternetbible/partI/chapterXXI/treaty4.asp"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Justin_A_Kuntz-2008-03-11T20:14:00.000Z-Justin_A_Kuntz-2007-10-19T22:18:00.000Z"></span>[3]</a> As I thought Argentina signed but did not ratify the convention. <i><a href="/wiki/User:Justin_A_Kuntz" title="User:Justin A Kuntz">Justin</a></i> <small><i><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Justin_A_Kuntz" title="User talk:Justin A Kuntz">talk</a></i></small> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Apcbg#c-Justin_A_Kuntz-2008-03-11T20:14:00.000Z-Justin_A_Kuntz-2007-10-19T22:18:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:14, 11 March 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Justin_A_Kuntz-2008-03-11T20:14:00.000Z-Justin_A_Kuntz-2007-10-19T22:18:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span 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If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the <a href="/wiki/Template_talk:Did_you_know" title="Template talk:Did you know">Did you know? talk page</a>. </td></tr></tbody></table><p> --<i><a href="/wiki/User:Allen3" title="User:Allen3">Allen3</a></i> <sup><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Allen3" title="User talk:Allen3">talk</a></sup> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Apcbg#c-Allen3-2007-10-24T16:29:00.000Z-Did_you_know" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:29, 24 October 2007 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Allen3-2007-10-24T16:29:00.000Z-Did_you_know"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Allen3-2007-10-24T16:29:00.000Z-Did_you_know"></span> </p><table style="border: 1px solid gray; background-color: #fdffe7;"> <tbody><tr> <td rowspan="2" style="vertical-align:middle;"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-AwardBot-2007-10-24T22:39:00.000Z-Did_you_know"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:DYK_Medal.svg" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/32/DYK_Medal.svg/70px-DYK_Medal.svg.png" decoding="async" width="70" height="131" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/32/DYK_Medal.svg/105px-DYK_Medal.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/32/DYK_Medal.svg/140px-DYK_Medal.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="842" data-file-height="1573"/></a></span> </td> <td rowspan="2"> </td> <td style="font-size: x-large; padding: 0; vertical-align: middle; height: 1.1em;"><b>The <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Did_you_know" title="Wikipedia:Did you know">DYK</a> Medal</b> </td></tr> <tr> <td style="vertical-align: middle; border-top: 1px solid gray;">Awarded by this editor for a Did You Know contribution that appeared on the main page, a hook that was well written, referenced, and displayed irony, a fact related to a distinguishing characteristic of the subject of the article, or other notable property. <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:AwardBot&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:AwardBot (page does not exist)">AwardBot</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Apcbg#c-AwardBot-2007-10-24T22:39:00.000Z-Did_you_know" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:39, 24 October 2007 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-AwardBot-2007-10-24T22:39:00.000Z-Did_you_know"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-AwardBot-2007-10-24T22:39:00.000Z-Did_you_know"></span> </td></tr></tbody></table> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Falkland_Islands_articles" data-mw-thread-id="h-Falkland_Islands_articles-2007-10-26T09:16:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Falkland_Islands_articles-2007-10-26T09:16:00.000Z"></span>Falkland Islands articles<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Falkland_Islands_articles-2007-10-26T09:16:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Apcbg&action=edit&section=46" title="Edit section: Falkland Islands articles"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-OpenToppedBus-2007-10-26T09:16:00.000Z-Falkland_Islands_articles"></span>Hi there. Thanks for your great work on the <a href="/wiki/Origins_of_Falkland_Islanders" title="Origins of Falkland Islanders">Origins of Falkland Islanders</a> article, and for dealing so quickly with the concerns about it cutting off midway through the nineteenth century. The additional material is exactly what was needed; it still looks a little unbalanced, but that may just be because there's more to say or more sources available about the earlier period. </p><p>I do wonder whether there's some reorganisation needed now. Someone (not me) has slapped a merge template on <a href="/wiki/Origins_of_Falkland_Islanders" title="Origins of Falkland Islanders">Origins of Falkland Islanders</a>, suggesting a merge with <a href="/wiki/Falkland_Islanders" title="Falkland Islanders">Falkland Islanders</a>. To me that makes some sense - I might argue additionally that the whole lot be moved to <a href="/wiki/Demographics_of_the_Falkland_Islands" class="mw-redirect" title="Demographics of the Falkland Islands">Demographics of the Falkland Islands</a>, which at present is a redirect to <a href="/wiki/Falkland_Islands" title="Falkland Islands">Falkland Islands</a>. </p><p>I'm no expert on any of this, just an interested reader - hence, I'm just throwing these suggestions out for you to do with as you like. --<a href="/wiki/User:OpenToppedBus" title="User:OpenToppedBus">OpenToppedBus</a> - <a href="/wiki/User_talk:OpenToppedBus" title="User talk:OpenToppedBus">Talk to the driver</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Apcbg#c-OpenToppedBus-2007-10-26T09:16:00.000Z-Falkland_Islands_articles" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:16, 26 October 2007 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-OpenToppedBus-2007-10-26T09:16:00.000Z-Falkland_Islands_articles"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-OpenToppedBus-2007-10-26T09:16:00.000Z-Falkland_Islands_articles"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-OpenToppedBus-2007-10-26T14:41:00.000Z-OpenToppedBus-2007-10-26T09:16:00.000Z"></span>Thanks for your detailed response. I'm very happy to accept your conclusions about the best structure for this set of articles - it's obvious that a lot of thought has gone into this. I agree that the lack of any consistent approach to demography/demographics articles is at present a failing in Wikipedia. --<a href="/wiki/User:OpenToppedBus" title="User:OpenToppedBus">OpenToppedBus</a> - <a href="/wiki/User_talk:OpenToppedBus" title="User talk:OpenToppedBus">Talk to the driver</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Apcbg#c-OpenToppedBus-2007-10-26T14:41:00.000Z-OpenToppedBus-2007-10-26T09:16:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:41, 26 October 2007 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-OpenToppedBus-2007-10-26T14:41:00.000Z-OpenToppedBus-2007-10-26T09:16:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-OpenToppedBus-2007-10-26T14:41:00.000Z-OpenToppedBus-2007-10-26T09:16:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-MacRusgail-2007-11-10T16:46:00.000Z-Falkland_Islands_articles"></span>Thanks for putting the new pictures onto the <a href="/wiki/Goose_Green" title="Goose Green">Goose Green</a> and <a href="/wiki/San_Carlos" class="mw-disambig" title="San Carlos">San Carlos</a> articles. I see that you've got some stuff on flickr under a different name, but you might want to watch as it has a different licensing on it, which may cause confusion. Anyway, I have been asking around for pictures of various parts of the Camp, for a while <a href="/wiki/Saunders_Island,_Falkland_Islands" title="Saunders Island, Falkland Islands">Saunders Island</a> is the only place where I've been able to find decent free-use images. --<a href="/wiki/User:MacRusgail" title="User:MacRusgail">MacRusgail</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Apcbg#c-MacRusgail-2007-11-10T16:46:00.000Z-Falkland_Islands_articles" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:46, 10 November 2007 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-MacRusgail-2007-11-10T16:46:00.000Z-Falkland_Islands_articles"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-MacRusgail-2007-11-10T16:46:00.000Z-Falkland_Islands_articles"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Heroína" data-mw-thread-id="h-Heroína-2007-10-27T16:03:00.000Z"><span id="Hero.C3.ADna"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Heroína-2007-10-27T16:03:00.000Z"></span>Heroína<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Heroína-2007-10-27T16:03:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Apcbg&action=edit&section=47" title="Edit section: Heroína"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Justin_A_Kuntz-2007-10-27T16:03:00.000Z-Heroína"></span>Hi, </p><p>Thanks for your input, the information put into the <a href="/wiki/Heroina" class="mw-redirect mw-disambig" title="Heroina">Heroina</a> article by a previous editor indicated that Jewett left Heroina in Gibraltar prior to its capture for piracy against Portugese ships. Weddell also seems to think Jewett ended his career in Brazilian service. However, your information has the appropriate citation whereas the previous edition doesn't I'll amend it accordingly. <i><a href="/wiki/User:Justin_A_Kuntz" title="User:Justin A Kuntz">Justin</a></i> <small><i><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Justin_A_Kuntz" title="User talk:Justin A Kuntz">talk</a></i></small> <small>—Preceding <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Signatures" title="Wikipedia:Signatures">comment</a> was added at <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Apcbg#c-Justin_A_Kuntz-2007-10-27T16:03:00.000Z-Heroína" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:03, 27 October 2007 (UTC)</a></small><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Justin_A_Kuntz-2007-10-27T16:03:00.000Z-Heroína"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Justin_A_Kuntz-2007-10-27T16:03:00.000Z-Heroína"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Justin_A_Kuntz-2007-10-27T20:03:00.000Z-Justin_A_Kuntz-2007-10-27T16:03:00.000Z"></span>Continued to do a bit of research, I've found a source (admittedly a blog) <a rel="nofollow" class="external autonumber" href="http://elmamotreto.blogspot.com/2006/11/patricio-joseph-julin-lynch-y-roo-1789.html">[4]</a> which confirms Jewett left the Heroína to be replaced by Mason. It was Mason who was captured by the Portuguese. Also includes an interesting snippet that Jewett took an American ship causing a diplomatic incident. <i><a href="/wiki/User:Justin_A_Kuntz" title="User:Justin A Kuntz">Justin</a></i> <small><i><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Justin_A_Kuntz" title="User talk:Justin A Kuntz">talk</a></i></small> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Apcbg#c-Justin_A_Kuntz-2007-10-27T20:03:00.000Z-Justin_A_Kuntz-2007-10-27T16:03:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:03, 27 October 2007 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Justin_A_Kuntz-2007-10-27T20:03:00.000Z-Justin_A_Kuntz-2007-10-27T16:03:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Justin_A_Kuntz-2007-10-27T20:03:00.000Z-Justin_A_Kuntz-2007-10-27T16:03:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Justin_A_Kuntz-2007-10-27T20:15:00.000Z-Justin_A_Kuntz-2007-10-27T20:03:00.000Z"></span>Found another reference confirming this information<a rel="nofollow" class="external autonumber" href="http://www.todoababor.es/datos_docum/nav_prov_rioplata.htm">[5]</a>. Interestingly later in his career Jewett appears to have fought against Argentina, whilst in the service of Brazil. <i><a href="/wiki/User:Justin_A_Kuntz" title="User:Justin A Kuntz">Justin</a></i> <small><i><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Justin_A_Kuntz" title="User talk:Justin A Kuntz">talk</a></i></small> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Apcbg#c-Justin_A_Kuntz-2007-10-27T20:15:00.000Z-Justin_A_Kuntz-2007-10-27T20:03:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:15, 27 October 2007 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Justin_A_Kuntz-2007-10-27T20:15:00.000Z-Justin_A_Kuntz-2007-10-27T20:03:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Justin_A_Kuntz-2007-10-27T20:15:00.000Z-Justin_A_Kuntz-2007-10-27T20:03:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Justin_A_Kuntz-2007-10-27T20:30:00.000Z-Justin_A_Kuntz-2007-10-27T20:15:00.000Z"></span>The statement on piracy was from the original article, I need to do some more work on that. <i><a href="/wiki/User:Justin_A_Kuntz" title="User:Justin A Kuntz">Justin</a></i> <small><i><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Justin_A_Kuntz" title="User talk:Justin A Kuntz">talk</a></i></small> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Apcbg#c-Justin_A_Kuntz-2007-10-27T20:30:00.000Z-Justin_A_Kuntz-2007-10-27T20:15:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:30, 27 October 2007 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Justin_A_Kuntz-2007-10-27T20:30:00.000Z-Justin_A_Kuntz-2007-10-27T20:15:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Justin_A_Kuntz-2007-10-27T20:30:00.000Z-Justin_A_Kuntz-2007-10-27T20:15:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Justin_A_Kuntz-2007-10-28T09:45:00.000Z-Justin_A_Kuntz-2007-10-27T20:30:00.000Z"></span>I'd assumed that Jewett had made some sort of declaration when he raised the flag but there is no written record of what he said. But you're right we should only report what the written records says. I've made the appropriate changes. <i><a href="/wiki/User:Justin_A_Kuntz" title="User:Justin A Kuntz">Justin</a></i> <small><i><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Justin_A_Kuntz" title="User talk:Justin A Kuntz">talk</a></i></small> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Apcbg#c-Justin_A_Kuntz-2007-10-28T09:45:00.000Z-Justin_A_Kuntz-2007-10-27T20:30:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:45, 28 October 2007 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Justin_A_Kuntz-2007-10-28T09:45:00.000Z-Justin_A_Kuntz-2007-10-27T20:30:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Justin_A_Kuntz-2007-10-28T09:45:00.000Z-Justin_A_Kuntz-2007-10-27T20:30:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Puerto_Soledad" data-mw-thread-id="h-Puerto_Soledad-2007-10-29T20:47:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Puerto_Soledad-2007-10-29T20:47:00.000Z"></span>Puerto Soledad<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Puerto_Soledad-2007-10-29T20:47:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Apcbg&action=edit&section=48" title="Edit section: Puerto Soledad"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Justin_A_Kuntz-2007-10-29T20:47:00.000Z-Puerto_Soledad"></span>I can see arguments both for separate articles and combining it into one. The Port Louis article covers the same time period so on the one hand it would make sense to combine them. On the other hand your comparison with Istanbul/Constantinople is compelling but would a redirect not be sufficient? <i><a href="/wiki/User:Justin_A_Kuntz" title="User:Justin A Kuntz">Justin</a></i> <small><i><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Justin_A_Kuntz" title="User talk:Justin A Kuntz">talk</a></i></small> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Apcbg#c-Justin_A_Kuntz-2007-10-29T20:47:00.000Z-Puerto_Soledad" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:47, 29 October 2007 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Justin_A_Kuntz-2007-10-29T20:47:00.000Z-Puerto_Soledad"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Justin_A_Kuntz-2007-10-29T20:47:00.000Z-Puerto_Soledad"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Justin_A_Kuntz-2007-10-29T21:23:00.000Z-Justin_A_Kuntz-2007-10-29T20:47:00.000Z"></span>It was originally called Port St Louis by the French, renamed Puerto Soledad by the Spanish, renamed Puerto Luis by Vernet (though I think that may have been more for vanity than sentiment), the British renamed it Anspns Harbour for a while before it reverted to Port Louis. The Port Louis article covers all these periods. I don't have a terribly strong opinion in favour of combining them, as I said I could see both sides of the argument and I could easily be convinced either way. However, I would suggest the correct place for this discussion is on the article talk page not our respective talk pages. <i><a href="/wiki/User:Justin_A_Kuntz" title="User:Justin A Kuntz">Justin</a></i> <small><i><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Justin_A_Kuntz" title="User talk:Justin A Kuntz">talk</a></i></small> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Apcbg#c-Justin_A_Kuntz-2007-10-29T21:23:00.000Z-Justin_A_Kuntz-2007-10-29T20:47:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:23, 29 October 2007 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Justin_A_Kuntz-2007-10-29T21:23:00.000Z-Justin_A_Kuntz-2007-10-29T20:47:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Justin_A_Kuntz-2007-10-29T21:23:00.000Z-Justin_A_Kuntz-2007-10-29T20:47:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Justin_A_Kuntz-2007-10-29T22:10:00.000Z-Justin_A_Kuntz-2007-10-29T21:23:00.000Z"></span>Well I agree with you on some of the recent additions to the origins article, the same editor added a lot of irrelevant material to the history article. I have an email address set up for wikipedia use, feel free to use it if you wish to chat off-wiki. <i><a href="/wiki/User:Justin_A_Kuntz" title="User:Justin A Kuntz">Justin</a></i> <small><i><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Justin_A_Kuntz" title="User talk:Justin A Kuntz">talk</a></i></small> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Apcbg#c-Justin_A_Kuntz-2007-10-29T22:10:00.000Z-Justin_A_Kuntz-2007-10-29T21:23:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:10, 29 October 2007 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Justin_A_Kuntz-2007-10-29T22:10:00.000Z-Justin_A_Kuntz-2007-10-29T21:23:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Justin_A_Kuntz-2007-10-29T22:10:00.000Z-Justin_A_Kuntz-2007-10-29T21:23:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-MacRusgail-2007-11-07T18:00:00.000Z-Puerto_Soledad"></span>The new maps (with the sea in blue) look much better than the original ones. I appreciate the work you put in, but they were difficult to make out. --<a href="/wiki/User:MacRusgail" title="User:MacRusgail">MacRusgail</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Apcbg#c-MacRusgail-2007-11-07T18:00:00.000Z-Puerto_Soledad" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:00, 7 November 2007 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-MacRusgail-2007-11-07T18:00:00.000Z-Puerto_Soledad"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-MacRusgail-2007-11-07T18:00:00.000Z-Puerto_Soledad"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Generations" data-mw-thread-id="h-Generations-2007-11-07T11:57:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Generations-2007-11-07T11:57:00.000Z"></span>Generations<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Generations-2007-11-07T11:57:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Apcbg&action=edit&section=49" title="Edit section: Generations"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Justin_A_Kuntz-2007-11-07T11:57:00.000Z-Generations"></span>Interesting, if the 1842 settlers have descendants over 8 generations, would any of the 1833 residents make it nine? <i><a href="/wiki/User:Justin_A_Kuntz" title="User:Justin A Kuntz">Justin</a></i> <small><i><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Justin_A_Kuntz" title="User talk:Justin A Kuntz">talk</a></i></small> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Apcbg#c-Justin_A_Kuntz-2007-11-07T11:57:00.000Z-Generations" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:57, 7 November 2007 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Justin_A_Kuntz-2007-11-07T11:57:00.000Z-Generations"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Justin_A_Kuntz-2007-11-07T11:57:00.000Z-Generations"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Stone_run_(nom)" data-mw-thread-id="h-Stone_run_(nom)-2007-11-23T17:41:00.000Z"><span id="Stone_run_.28nom.29"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Stone_run_(nom)-2007-11-23T17:41:00.000Z"></span>Stone run (nom)<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Stone_run_(nom)-2007-11-23T17:41:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Apcbg&action=edit&section=50" title="Edit section: Stone run (nom)"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Komusou-2007-11-23T17:41:00.000Z-Stone_run_(nom)"></span>Hi. I've nominated <a href="/wiki/Stone_run" title="Stone run">stone run</a>, an article you worked on, for consideration to appear on the Main Page as part of <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Did_you_know" title="Wikipedia:Did you know">Wikipedia:Did you know</a>. You can see the hook for the article at <a href="/wiki/Template_talk:Did_you_know#Articles_created.2Fexpanded_on_November_21" title="Template talk:Did you know">Template talk:Did you know#Articles created.2Fexpanded on November 21</a>, where you can improve it if you see fit. — <a href="/wiki/User:Komusou" title="User:Komusou">Komusou</a> <sup><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Komusou" title="User talk:Komusou"><i>talk</i></a></sup> @ <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Apcbg#c-Komusou-2007-11-23T17:41:00.000Z-Stone_run_(nom)" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:41, 23 November 2007 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Komusou-2007-11-23T17:41:00.000Z-Stone_run_(nom)"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Komusou-2007-11-23T17:41:00.000Z-Stone_run_(nom)"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Apcbg-2007-11-23T22:42:00.000Z-Komusou-2007-11-23T17:41:00.000Z"></span>I wonder if ‘Darwin’, ‘Falkland Islands’ and ‘Bulgaria’ could all appear in that one sentence? <a href="/wiki/User:Apcbg" title="User:Apcbg">Apcbg</a> (<a class="mw-selflink selflink">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Apcbg#c-Apcbg-2007-11-23T22:42:00.000Z-Komusou-2007-11-23T17:41:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:42, 23 November 2007 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Apcbg-2007-11-23T22:42:00.000Z-Komusou-2007-11-23T17:41:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Apcbg-2007-11-23T22:42:00.000Z-Komusou-2007-11-23T17:41:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Komusou-2007-11-24T17:37:00.000Z-Apcbg-2007-11-23T22:42:00.000Z"></span>Well, you're free to try and add such sentence as an alternate hook under the current ones ;-) But the hook is limited to 200 chars max, and they prefer shorter hooks anyway, and single-fact, focused hooks are prefered too. That's because DYK hooks are just transient sentences displayed on the main page, once, to draw readers/editors to recent articles, where they get the full story. I mean, it's not a dictionary definition set in stone that'll represent your article forever, it's a one-day, transient hook. — <a href="/wiki/User:Komusou" title="User:Komusou">Komusou</a> <sup><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Komusou" title="User talk:Komusou"><i>talk</i></a></sup> @ <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Apcbg#c-Komusou-2007-11-24T17:37:00.000Z-Apcbg-2007-11-23T22:42:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:37, 24 November 2007 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Komusou-2007-11-24T17:37:00.000Z-Apcbg-2007-11-23T22:42:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Komusou-2007-11-24T17:37:00.000Z-Apcbg-2007-11-23T22:42:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Apcbg-2007-11-24T21:47:00.000Z-Komusou-2007-11-24T17:37:00.000Z"></span>Fair enough, I leave it to you; apparently you know better and would make a better job at it. <a href="/wiki/User:Apcbg" title="User:Apcbg">Apcbg</a> (<a class="mw-selflink selflink">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Apcbg#c-Apcbg-2007-11-24T21:47:00.000Z-Komusou-2007-11-24T17:37:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:47, 24 November 2007 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Apcbg-2007-11-24T21:47:00.000Z-Komusou-2007-11-24T17:37:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Apcbg-2007-11-24T21:47:00.000Z-Komusou-2007-11-24T17:37:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="DYK" data-mw-thread-id="h-DYK-2007-11-25T01:45:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-DYK-2007-11-25T01:45:00.000Z"></span>DYK<span data-mw-comment-end="h-DYK-2007-11-25T01:45:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Apcbg&action=edit&section=51" title="Edit section: DYK"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <pre><tt> </tt></pre><tt><table class="messagebox standard-talk"> <tbody><tr> <td><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Balloonman-2007-11-25T01:45:00.000Z-DYK"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Updated_DYK_query.svg" class="mw-file-description" title="Updated DYK query"><img alt="Updated DYK query" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/a/a0/Updated_DYK_query.svg/15px-Updated_DYK_query.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="30" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/a/a0/Updated_DYK_query.svg/23px-Updated_DYK_query.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/a/a0/Updated_DYK_query.svg/30px-Updated_DYK_query.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="35" data-file-height="71"/></a></span> </td> <td>On <a href="/wiki/25_November" class="mw-redirect" title="25 November">25 November</a>, <a href="/wiki/2007" title="2007">2007</a>, <b><a href="/wiki/Template:Did_you_know" title="Template:Did you know">Did you know?</a></b> was updated with a fact from the article <i><b><a href="/wiki/Stone_run" title="Stone run">stone run</a></b></i>, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the <a href="/wiki/Template_talk:Did_you_know" title="Template talk:Did you know">Did you know? talk page</a>. </td></tr></tbody></table></tt><p><tt> --<a href="/wiki/User:Balloonman" title="User:Balloonman">Balloonman</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Balloonman" title="User talk:Balloonman">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Apcbg#c-Balloonman-2007-11-25T01:45:00.000Z-DYK" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">01:45, 25 November 2007 (UTC)</a></tt><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Balloonman-2007-11-25T01:45:00.000Z-DYK"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Balloonman-2007-11-25T01:45:00.000Z-DYK"></span> </p><div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Re:_2" data-mw-thread-id="h-Re:_2-2008-01-18T16:43:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Re:_2-2008-01-18T16:43:00.000Z"></span>Re:<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Re:_2-2008-01-18T16:43:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Apcbg&action=edit&section=52" title="Edit section: Re:"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Eupator-2008-01-18T16:43:00.000Z-Re:_2"></span>Hello Apcbg, it would be extremely diffuclt for me to translate the article properly given my lack of time and expertise but at the very least I will start it and create a stub as soon as I can. Thanks.--<big><b> <a href="/wiki/User:Eupator" title="User:Eupator"><span style="color:#000510;">Ευπάτωρ</span></a> </b></big><sup><small><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Eupator" title="User talk:Eupator"><span style="color:#974423;">Talk!!</span></a></small></sup> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Apcbg#c-Eupator-2008-01-18T16:43:00.000Z-Re:_2" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:43, 18 January 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Eupator-2008-01-18T16:43:00.000Z-Re:_2"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Eupator-2008-01-18T16:43:00.000Z-Re:_2"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Apcbg-2008-01-18T19:35:00.000Z-Eupator-2008-01-18T16:43:00.000Z"></span>Dear Eupator, many thanks for your prompt and positive response. A stub for starters would be most appreciated, indeed. Best, <a href="/wiki/User:Apcbg" title="User:Apcbg">Apcbg</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Apcbg#c-Apcbg-2008-01-18T19:35:00.000Z-Eupator-2008-01-18T16:43:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:35, 18 January 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Apcbg-2008-01-18T19:35:00.000Z-Eupator-2008-01-18T16:43:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Apcbg-2008-01-18T19:35:00.000Z-Eupator-2008-01-18T16:43:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <p><br/> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Email" data-mw-thread-id="h-Email-2008-04-05T08:42:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Email-2008-04-05T08:42:00.000Z"></span>Email<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Email-2008-04-05T08:42:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Apcbg&action=edit&section=53" title="Edit section: Email"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Justin_A_Kuntz-2008-04-05T08:42:00.000Z-Email"></span>Do you think you could drop me an email, address is in my profile. I'd like to discuss something off-wiki. <i><a href="/wiki/User:Justin_A_Kuntz" title="User:Justin A Kuntz">Justin</a></i> <small><i><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Justin_A_Kuntz" title="User talk:Justin A Kuntz">talk</a></i></small> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Apcbg#c-Justin_A_Kuntz-2008-04-05T08:42:00.000Z-Email" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">08:42, 5 April 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Justin_A_Kuntz-2008-04-05T08:42:00.000Z-Email"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Justin_A_Kuntz-2008-04-05T08:42:00.000Z-Email"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Apcbg-2008-04-05T08:48:00.000Z-Justin_A_Kuntz-2008-04-05T08:42:00.000Z"></span>Sure, I just couldn't find your address? Best, <a href="/wiki/User:Apcbg" title="User:Apcbg">Apcbg</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Apcbg#c-Apcbg-2008-04-05T08:48:00.000Z-Justin_A_Kuntz-2008-04-05T08:42:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">08:48, 5 April 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Apcbg-2008-04-05T08:48:00.000Z-Justin_A_Kuntz-2008-04-05T08:42:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Apcbg-2008-04-05T08:48:00.000Z-Justin_A_Kuntz-2008-04-05T08:42:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Image:Mount-Imeon.PNG" data-mw-thread-id="h-Image:Mount-Imeon.PNG-2008-06-14T07:25:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Image:Mount-Imeon.PNG-2008-06-14T07:25:00.000Z"></span><a href="/wiki/File:Mount-Imeon.PNG" title="File:Mount-Imeon.PNG">Image:Mount-Imeon.PNG</a><span data-mw-comment-end="h-Image:Mount-Imeon.PNG-2008-06-14T07:25:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Apcbg&action=edit&section=54" title="Edit section: Image:Mount-Imeon.PNG"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-EnJx-2008-06-14T07:25:00.000Z-Image:Mount-Imeon.PNG"></span>Hi, I'm watching your english editations on czech wiki. For example <a class="external text" href="https://cs.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Protobulha%C5%99i&diff=2175171&oldid=2055683">this one</a> when you added a <a href="/wiki/File:Mount-Imeon.PNG" title="File:Mount-Imeon.PNG">map</a>. But this map is quite poor and missing some better description. What are the pink line, green line, yellow arrow and yellow cross? Please answer into my <a href="https://cs.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedista_diskuse:Jx" class="extiw" title="cs:Wikipedista diskuse:Jx">czech discussion</a>. --<a href="/wiki/User:EnJx" title="User:EnJx">EnJx</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:EnJx" title="User talk:EnJx">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Apcbg#c-EnJx-2008-06-14T07:25:00.000Z-Image:Mount-Imeon.PNG" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">07:25, 14 June 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-EnJx-2008-06-14T07:25:00.000Z-Image:Mount-Imeon.PNG"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-EnJx-2008-06-14T07:25:00.000Z-Image:Mount-Imeon.PNG"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Apcbg-2008-06-14T13:20:00.000Z-EnJx-2008-06-14T07:25:00.000Z"></span>Done. <a href="/wiki/User:Apcbg" title="User:Apcbg">Apcbg</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Apcbg#c-Apcbg-2008-06-14T13:20:00.000Z-EnJx-2008-06-14T07:25:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:20, 14 June 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Apcbg-2008-06-14T13:20:00.000Z-EnJx-2008-06-14T07:25:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Apcbg-2008-06-14T13:20:00.000Z-EnJx-2008-06-14T07:25:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Warning" data-mw-thread-id="h-Warning-2008-06-19T22:07:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Warning-2008-06-19T22:07:00.000Z"></span>Warning<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Warning-2008-06-19T22:07:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Apcbg&action=edit&section=55" title="Edit section: Warning"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Future_Perfect_at_Sunrise-2008-06-19T22:07:00.000Z-Warning"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Nuvola_apps_important.svg" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/f/f7/Nuvola_apps_important.svg/25px-Nuvola_apps_important.svg.png" decoding="async" width="25" height="21" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/f/f7/Nuvola_apps_important.svg/38px-Nuvola_apps_important.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/f/f7/Nuvola_apps_important.svg/50px-Nuvola_apps_important.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="600" data-file-height="500"/></a></span> You are in danger of violating the <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Three-revert_rule" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:Three-revert rule">three-revert rule</a> on <a href="/wiki/Bulgaria" title="Bulgaria">Bulgaria</a>. Please cease further reverts or you may be <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Blocking_policy" title="Wikipedia:Blocking policy">blocked</a> from editing. <a href="/wiki/User:Future_Perfect_at_Sunrise" title="User:Future Perfect at Sunrise">Fut.Perf.</a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Future_Perfect_at_Sunrise" title="User talk:Future Perfect at Sunrise">☼</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Apcbg#c-Future_Perfect_at_Sunrise-2008-06-19T22:07:00.000Z-Warning" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:07, 19 June 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Future_Perfect_at_Sunrise-2008-06-19T22:07:00.000Z-Warning"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Future_Perfect_at_Sunrise-2008-06-19T22:07:00.000Z-Warning"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="one_of_your_pages_is_up_for_deletion" data-mw-thread-id="h-one_of_your_pages_is_up_for_deletion-2008-06-20T02:40:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-one_of_your_pages_is_up_for_deletion-2008-06-20T02:40:00.000Z"></span>one of your pages is up for deletion<span data-mw-comment-end="h-one_of_your_pages_is_up_for_deletion-2008-06-20T02:40:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Apcbg&action=edit&section=56" title="Edit section: one of your pages is up for deletion"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Enric_Naval-2008-06-20T02:40:00.000Z-one_of_your_pages_is_up_for_deletion"></span>Please go to <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Miscellany_for_deletion/User:Apcbg/BG-MK-Policies" title="Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/User:Apcbg/BG-MK-Policies">Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/User:Apcbg/BG-MK-Policies</a> and comment on the issue. Please look into <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:NOT#WEBSPACE" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:NOT">Wikipedia:NOT#WEBSPACE</a>, on the last paragraph there are pointers to finding other wikies where the content of that page will be welcome. --<a href="/wiki/User:Enric_Naval" title="User:Enric Naval">Enric Naval</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Enric_Naval" title="User talk:Enric Naval">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Apcbg#c-Enric_Naval-2008-06-20T02:40:00.000Z-one_of_your_pages_is_up_for_deletion" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">02:40, 20 June 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Enric_Naval-2008-06-20T02:40:00.000Z-one_of_your_pages_is_up_for_deletion"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Enric_Naval-2008-06-20T02:40:00.000Z-one_of_your_pages_is_up_for_deletion"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Cenarium-2008-06-25T01:38:00.000Z-Enric_Naval-2008-06-20T02:40:00.000Z"></span>I have closed the debate as keep. Regards, <strong><span style="font-family:Monotype;"><a href="/wiki/User:Cenarium" title="User:Cenarium"><span style="color:#000080;">Cena</span><span style="color:#1560bd;">rium</span></a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Cenarium" title="User talk:Cenarium"><span style="color:#000090;"> <b><sup>Talk</sup></b></span></a></span></strong> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Apcbg#c-Cenarium-2008-06-25T01:38:00.000Z-Enric_Naval-2008-06-20T02:40:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">01:38, 25 June 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Cenarium-2008-06-25T01:38:00.000Z-Enric_Naval-2008-06-20T02:40:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Cenarium-2008-06-25T01:38:00.000Z-Enric_Naval-2008-06-20T02:40:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Conflict_of_interest_editing" data-mw-thread-id="h-Conflict_of_interest_editing-2008-06-20T05:22:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Conflict_of_interest_editing-2008-06-20T05:22:00.000Z"></span>Conflict of interest editing<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Conflict_of_interest_editing-2008-06-20T05:22:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Apcbg&action=edit&section=57" title="Edit section: Conflict of interest editing"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Future_Perfect_at_Sunrise-2008-06-20T05:22:00.000Z-Conflict_of_interest_editing"></span>Hello. I'd like to ask you directly in what relation you stand personally to the <a href="/wiki/Manfred_W%C3%B6rner_Foundation" title="Manfred Wörner Foundation">Manfred Wörner Foundation</a> and to Mr <a href="/wiki/Lyubomir_Ivanov" class="mw-disambig" title="Lyubomir Ivanov">Lyubomir Ivanov</a>, about whose activities you seem to have created a "walled garden" of articles. Please be aware of our rules on <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:COI" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:COI">avoiding "conflict of interest"</a> in editing. <a href="/wiki/User:Future_Perfect_at_Sunrise" title="User:Future Perfect at Sunrise">Fut.Perf.</a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Future_Perfect_at_Sunrise" title="User talk:Future Perfect at Sunrise">☼</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Apcbg#c-Future_Perfect_at_Sunrise-2008-06-20T05:22:00.000Z-Conflict_of_interest_editing" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">05:22, 20 June 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Future_Perfect_at_Sunrise-2008-06-20T05:22:00.000Z-Conflict_of_interest_editing"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Future_Perfect_at_Sunrise-2008-06-20T05:22:00.000Z-Conflict_of_interest_editing"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Future_Perfect_at_Sunrise-2008-06-20T07:42:00.000Z-Future_Perfect_at_Sunrise-2008-06-20T05:22:00.000Z"></span>Never mind, figured it out. Now at <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:COI/N#User:Apcbg_and_Manfred_Wörner_Foundation" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:COI/N">WP:COI/N#User:Apcbg and Manfred Wörner Foundation</a>. <a href="/wiki/User:Future_Perfect_at_Sunrise" title="User:Future Perfect at Sunrise">Fut.Perf.</a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Future_Perfect_at_Sunrise" title="User talk:Future Perfect at Sunrise">☼</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Apcbg#c-Future_Perfect_at_Sunrise-2008-06-20T07:42:00.000Z-Future_Perfect_at_Sunrise-2008-06-20T05:22:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">07:42, 20 June 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Future_Perfect_at_Sunrise-2008-06-20T07:42:00.000Z-Future_Perfect_at_Sunrise-2008-06-20T05:22:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Future_Perfect_at_Sunrise-2008-06-20T07:42:00.000Z-Future_Perfect_at_Sunrise-2008-06-20T05:22:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="New_Group_you_may_be_interested_in" data-mw-thread-id="h-New_Group_you_may_be_interested_in-2008-07-03T21:34:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-New_Group_you_may_be_interested_in-2008-07-03T21:34:00.000Z"></span>New Group you may be interested in<span data-mw-comment-end="h-New_Group_you_may_be_interested_in-2008-07-03T21:34:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Apcbg&action=edit&section=58" title="Edit section: New Group you may be interested in"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><a class="external autonumber" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_South_America/Falkland_Islands_work_group"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Justin_A_Kuntz-2008-07-03T21:34:00.000Z-New_Group_you_may_be_interested_in"></span>[6]</a> <i><a href="/wiki/User:Justin_A_Kuntz" title="User:Justin A Kuntz">Justin</a></i> <small><i><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Justin_A_Kuntz" title="User talk:Justin A Kuntz">talk</a></i></small> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Apcbg#c-Justin_A_Kuntz-2008-07-03T21:34:00.000Z-New_Group_you_may_be_interested_in" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:34, 3 July 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Justin_A_Kuntz-2008-07-03T21:34:00.000Z-New_Group_you_may_be_interested_in"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Justin_A_Kuntz-2008-07-03T21:34:00.000Z-New_Group_you_may_be_interested_in"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="The_Conqueror_picture" data-mw-thread-id="h-The_Conqueror_picture-2008-08-17T22:48:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-The_Conqueror_picture-2008-08-17T22:48:00.000Z"></span>The Conqueror picture<span data-mw-comment-end="h-The_Conqueror_picture-2008-08-17T22:48:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Apcbg&action=edit&section=59" title="Edit section: The Conqueror picture"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Narson-2008-08-17T22:48:00.000Z-The_Conqueror_picture"></span>Do you think the other pic I found (linked in the discussion at the bottom) would make a suitable replacement to illustrate the jolly roger point? (It has a close up of the conning tower and flag, addressing their complaint that the Jolly Roger is not clear). It is nice to see you around on the wiki again. Who knew we had a notable editor among the Falkland editors! <a href="/wiki/User:Narson" title="User:Narson">Narson</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Narson" title="User talk:Narson">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Apcbg#c-Narson-2008-08-17T22:48:00.000Z-The_Conqueror_picture" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:48, 17 August 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Narson-2008-08-17T22:48:00.000Z-The_Conqueror_picture"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Narson-2008-08-17T22:48:00.000Z-The_Conqueror_picture"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Narson-2008-08-17T23:32:00.000Z-Narson-2008-08-17T22:48:00.000Z"></span>If it wouldn't bring accusations that we are evil communists out to destroy copyright, I'd suggest it would be good if Justin could merge the two pics. Have the wider image up top and then the zoomed in one beneath to show detail. I do think FutPer is taking a far too strict interpretation of policy, certainly his statement that we want 'less pictures' seems like he is on somewhat of a crusade.</dd> <dd>As for the 'other article', FutPer's comment above made me curious and then I couldn't help but fiddle. I might have a poke around on it tommorow as it seems interesting enough and notable enough that I'm sure we can get it past a stub. I can get the CoI fears but gutting an article really isn't the best solution when discussion can do. I mean, it isn't like you are going to sue them for stuff you wrote. <a href="/wiki/User:Narson" title="User:Narson">Narson</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Narson" title="User talk:Narson">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Apcbg#c-Narson-2008-08-17T23:32:00.000Z-Narson-2008-08-17T22:48:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:32, 17 August 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Narson-2008-08-17T23:32:00.000Z-Narson-2008-08-17T22:48:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Narson-2008-08-17T23:32:00.000Z-Narson-2008-08-17T22:48:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Narson-2008-08-17T23:58:00.000Z-Narson-2008-08-17T23:32:00.000Z"></span>Not sure if IMDB can be used as asource, but is <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.imdb.com/name/nm1215097/">this</a> you or annother Lyubomir? EDIT: OK, my ignorance of eastern european names is showing. Seems to be a fairly common name (judging by there also being a Deputy Foreign Minister with the name?). <a href="/wiki/User:Narson" title="User:Narson">Narson</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Narson" title="User talk:Narson">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Apcbg#c-Narson-2008-08-17T23:58:00.000Z-Narson-2008-08-17T23:32:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:58, 17 August 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Narson-2008-08-17T23:58:00.000Z-Narson-2008-08-17T23:32:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Narson-2008-08-17T23:58:00.000Z-Narson-2008-08-17T23:32:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Narson-2008-08-18T00:52:00.000Z-Narson-2008-08-17T23:58:00.000Z"></span>I think me and Justin are going to try and get it back up to scratch. I'll go through the old version and salvage things from that and trawl the net. Though I am somewhat limited to English sources (Well, and French) as my Bulgarian is a little rusty and incredibly non-existant. Thanks for the help. <a href="/wiki/User:Narson" title="User:Narson">Narson</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Narson" title="User talk:Narson">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Apcbg#c-Narson-2008-08-18T00:52:00.000Z-Narson-2008-08-17T23:58:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:52, 18 August 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Narson-2008-08-18T00:52:00.000Z-Narson-2008-08-17T23:58:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Narson-2008-08-18T00:52:00.000Z-Narson-2008-08-17T23:58:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Narson-2008-08-18T21:27:00.000Z-Narson-2008-08-18T00:52:00.000Z"></span>Hrm. I've added in a bit from a biography I got from the UN. It mentions you being an MP and Green Party chair and a parliamentary secretary. Though I just remembered you said you weren't the political one? Has the UN got this one wrong? <a href="/wiki/User:Narson" title="User:Narson">Narson</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Narson" title="User talk:Narson">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Apcbg#c-Narson-2008-08-18T21:27:00.000Z-Narson-2008-08-18T00:52:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:27, 18 August 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Narson-2008-08-18T21:27:00.000Z-Narson-2008-08-18T00:52:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Narson-2008-08-18T21:27:00.000Z-Narson-2008-08-18T00:52:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Changes_in_the_article_by_the_antarctica" data-mw-thread-id="h-Changes_in_the_article_by_the_antarctica-2008-09-26T17:17:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Changes_in_the_article_by_the_antarctica-2008-09-26T17:17:00.000Z"></span>Changes in the article by the antarctica<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Changes_in_the_article_by_the_antarctica-2008-09-26T17:17:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Apcbg&action=edit&section=60" title="Edit section: Changes in the article by the antarctica"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Edubucher-2008-09-26T17:17:00.000Z-Changes_in_the_article_by_the_antarctica"></span>Hi, you made some changes to the article on Antarctica, particularly in the section Countries interested in participating in a future territorial division of Antarctica, where you have removed three countries (Spain, Peru and South Africa) stating that the references have been placed are poor, because I know you want to do that are not any source, the first institution belongs to the INTER-AMERICAN DEFENSE OF CHILE, and the second of the Foreign Ministry of Ecuador, they express a great interest in these four countries in the sharing of the territorial antarctica, maybe you do not know this as it was in Spanish, also if you read the article by the Spanish in antarctica record the same section, as it is mentioned as a serious reference, also advise you to read the article in Spanish on the basis of Machu Picchu in Peru, where he also expresses the interest of this country in the territorial distribution of the antarctica, greetings --<a href="/wiki/User:Edubucher" title="User:Edubucher">Edubucher</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Edubucher" title="User talk:Edubucher">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Apcbg#c-Edubucher-2008-09-26T17:17:00.000Z-Changes_in_the_article_by_the_antarctica" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:17, 26 September 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Edubucher-2008-09-26T17:17:00.000Z-Changes_in_the_article_by_the_antarctica"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Edubucher-2008-09-26T17:17:00.000Z-Changes_in_the_article_by_the_antarctica"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Apcbg-2008-09-26T18:47:00.000Z-Edubucher-2008-09-26T17:17:00.000Z"></span>The problem with the quoted two sources is not their Spanish language at all but their wide discrepancy both among themselves and with the suggested group of countries with possible territorial interest in Antarctica. Namely, it is suggested that</dd></dl> <dl><dd>Brasil</dd> <dd>España</dd> <dd>Perú</dd> <dd>Sudáfrica</dd></dl> <dl><dd>are taken from the two quoted publications. However, the first one defines a group of countries that "<i>tienen pretensiones territoriales, pero que por disposiciones del propio Tratado Antártico no pueden formularlas</i>" comprising</dd></dl> <dl><dd>Brasil</dd> <dd>Estados Unidos</dd> <dd>Perú</dd> <dd>China</dd> <dd>España</dd> <dd>India</dd> <dd>Rusia</dd> <dd>Sudáfrica</dd></dl> <dl><dd>while the second source considers</dd></dl> <dl><dd>Brasil</dd> <dd>Uruguay</dd> <dd>Perú</dd> <dd>Ecuador</dd></dl> <dl><dd>It’s a serious thing for a country to have declared territorial interests in Antarctica, even potential or conditional ones, and one would have expected to see more definite sources, including sources in English too; as for Spanish language, one certainly would have expected to see for instance some official Spanish source in Spanish language confirming the alleged territorial interest of Spain. I am not saying that such territorial interests or intended interests do not exist, just that we would need better agreement between the article text and quoted sources. <a href="/wiki/User:Apcbg" title="User:Apcbg">Apcbg</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Apcbg#c-Apcbg-2008-09-26T18:47:00.000Z-Edubucher-2008-09-26T17:17:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:47, 26 September 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Apcbg-2008-09-26T18:47:00.000Z-Edubucher-2008-09-26T17:17:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Apcbg-2008-09-26T18:47:00.000Z-Edubucher-2008-09-26T17:17:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Award" data-mw-thread-id="h-Award-2008-09-26T19:06:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Award-2008-09-26T19:06:00.000Z"></span>Award<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Award-2008-09-26T19:06:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Apcbg&action=edit&section=61" title="Edit section: Award"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <table style="border: 1px solid gray; background-color: #fdffe7;"> <tbody><tr> <td rowspan="2" valign="middle"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-TodorBozhinov-2008-09-26T19:06:00.000Z-Award"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Original_Barnstar.png" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/2/27/Original_Barnstar.png/100px-Original_Barnstar.png" decoding="async" width="100" height="96" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/27/Original_Barnstar.png 1.5x" data-file-width="111" data-file-height="107"/></a></span> </td> <td rowspan="2"> </td> <td style="font-size: x-large; padding: 0; vertical-align: middle; height: 1.1em;"><b>The Original Barnstar</b> </td></tr> <tr> <td style="vertical-align: middle; border-top: 1px solid gray;">You are hereby awarded the Original Barnstar for your outstanding contributions to the encyclopedia in general, particularly with regard to the topics of <a href="/wiki/Bulgaria" title="Bulgaria">Bulgaria</a>, <a href="/wiki/Antarctica" title="Antarctica">Antarctica</a> and the <a href="/wiki/Southern_Ocean" title="Southern Ocean">Southern Ocean</a>. Keep up the good work both online and offline! :) <i><a href="/wiki/User:TodorBozhinov" title="User:TodorBozhinov">Todor</a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:TodorBozhinov" title="User talk:TodorBozhinov">→</a><a href="/wiki/User:TodorBozhinov" title="User:TodorBozhinov">Bozhinov</a></i> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Apcbg#c-TodorBozhinov-2008-09-26T19:06:00.000Z-Award" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:06, 26 September 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-TodorBozhinov-2008-09-26T19:06:00.000Z-Award"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-TodorBozhinov-2008-09-26T19:06:00.000Z-Award"></span> </td></tr></tbody></table> <p><br/> </p> <dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Apcbg-2008-09-27T10:36:00.000Z-TodorBozhinov-2008-09-26T19:06:00.000Z"></span>Dear Todor, sincere thanks for your so kind opinion of my work; I am greatly honoured indeed. Best, <a href="/wiki/User:Apcbg" title="User:Apcbg">Apcbg</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Apcbg#c-Apcbg-2008-09-27T10:36:00.000Z-TodorBozhinov-2008-09-26T19:06:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:36, 27 September 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Apcbg-2008-09-27T10:36:00.000Z-TodorBozhinov-2008-09-26T19:06:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Apcbg-2008-09-27T10:36:00.000Z-TodorBozhinov-2008-09-26T19:06:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Antartica" data-mw-thread-id="h-Antartica-2008-09-27T22:38:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Antartica-2008-09-27T22:38:00.000Z"></span>Antartica<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Antartica-2008-09-27T22:38:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Apcbg&action=edit&section=62" title="Edit section: Antartica"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Edubucher-2008-09-27T22:38:00.000Z-Antartica"></span>Thank you for having responded, I say that is right in saying that the two references cited various countries interested in a future territorial sharing in Antarctica, but as you have observed in both referred to peru, as one of the countries with greatest interest in the antarctica next to brazil, I will expose it to peru now, that by acceding to the Antarctic Treaty, made a reservation of its rights to territory in Antarctica, something you can check the article in the base of Machu Picchu from wikipedia in Spanish (1), in that same article mentions the text of the Constitution of Peru where the rights are manifested in lebanon on antarctica. also was the secretary general of the UN, then Javier Perez de Cuellar, who also is Peruvian, who supported the territorial interests of lebanon on Antarctica in 1984. That is why I add to the article in the antarctica to peru, noting that the peru to accede to the Treaty made a reservation of its rights to territory, as stated in the Wikipedia article in Spanish that you can read and vera that is not what put an untruth. </p><p>(1) : <a class="external free" href="https://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Base_Machu_Picchu#Tratado_Ant.C3.A1rtico">http://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Base_Machu_Picchu#Tratado_Ant.C3.A1rtico</a> </p><p>greetings, --<a href="/wiki/User:Edubucher" title="User:Edubucher">Edubucher</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Edubucher" title="User talk:Edubucher">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Apcbg#c-Edubucher-2008-09-27T22:38:00.000Z-Antartica" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:38, 27 September 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Edubucher-2008-09-27T22:38:00.000Z-Antartica"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Edubucher-2008-09-27T22:38:00.000Z-Antartica"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Apcbg-2008-09-28T10:57:00.000Z-Edubucher-2008-09-27T22:38:00.000Z"></span>Well it would appear from the quoted Chilean source that besides Brazil, three other Latin American countries have reserved their right to make claims: Peru, Ecuador, and Uruguay. I have added that to the article, still feeling however that more sources would be appropriate. Best, <a href="/wiki/User:Apcbg" title="User:Apcbg">Apcbg</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Apcbg#c-Apcbg-2008-09-28T10:57:00.000Z-Edubucher-2008-09-27T22:38:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:57, 28 September 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Apcbg-2008-09-28T10:57:00.000Z-Edubucher-2008-09-27T22:38:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Apcbg-2008-09-28T10:57:00.000Z-Edubucher-2008-09-27T22:38:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Antarctica_II" data-mw-thread-id="h-Antarctica_II-2008-09-29T16:16:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Antarctica_II-2008-09-29T16:16:00.000Z"></span>Antarctica II<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Antarctica_II-2008-09-29T16:16:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Apcbg&action=edit&section=63" title="Edit section: Antarctica II"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Edubucher-2008-09-29T16:16:00.000Z-Antarctica_II"></span>Confudido friend, I think you have some points, I totally agree with you for having placed peru, but not to Uruguay and Ecuador, for which only the peru has reserved its rights to territory in antarctica when it acceded to the Antarctic Treaty and that it is the source of the Ecuadorian Foreign Ministry, now you explain that Peru should only be on that list: </p><p>1) Of the three countries mentioned above has been the only one who has reserved its rights to territory in antarctica when it acceded to the treaty and that is why to Ecuador and Uruguay were not taken into account in Wikipedia article in Spanish . </p><p>2) the source of the Inter-American Defense Institute of chile, referred to Brazil, the United States and Peru in the section Countries interested in participating in a future territorial division of Antarctica, as these three countries are considered a higher grade in its territorial pretenciones in Antarctica. </p><p>3) It is the only country in peru the already mentioned (Peru, Ecuador and Uruguay) which in its constitution make mention of the rights Peruvians in Antarctica. </p><p>4) It is the only country peru as you mention it in their territorial interest was supported by the then secretary general of the united nations the Peruvian Javier Perez de Cuellar in 1984. </p><p>5) It is the only country where the peru has written several books on the ties between that country and the Antarctic. </p><p>That is why we will do changes in the section of the article of Antarctica, placing only peru as this in the Wikipedia article in Spanish, adding that besides what is mentioned in the Peruvian Constitution, I hope it is your approval, greetings and thanks for your time to dedicate to the article by antarctica. --<a href="/wiki/User:Edubucher" title="User:Edubucher">Edubucher</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Edubucher" title="User talk:Edubucher">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Apcbg#c-Edubucher-2008-09-29T16:16:00.000Z-Antarctica_II" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:16, 29 September 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Edubucher-2008-09-29T16:16:00.000Z-Antarctica_II"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Edubucher-2008-09-29T16:16:00.000Z-Antarctica_II"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Apcbg-2008-09-29T18:09:00.000Z-Edubucher-2008-09-29T16:16:00.000Z"></span>Dear Edubucher, I disagree with your approach, and would suggest that you bring Ecuador and Uruguay back. Wikipedia is not the place to compare the strength of various countries' territorial interests in Antarctica (that's 'Original Research'); it suffices to know from the quoted sources that all these countries (their governments or parliaments) have formally reserved the right to make sovereignty claims. <a href="/wiki/User:Apcbg" title="User:Apcbg">Apcbg</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Apcbg#c-Apcbg-2008-09-29T18:09:00.000Z-Edubucher-2008-09-29T16:16:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:09, 29 September 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Apcbg-2008-09-29T18:09:00.000Z-Edubucher-2008-09-29T16:16:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Apcbg-2008-09-29T18:09:00.000Z-Edubucher-2008-09-29T16:16:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <p><br/> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Image_copyright_problem_with_Image:Logo-IMI.gif" data-mw-thread-id="h-Image_copyright_problem_with_Image:Logo-IMI.gif-2008-10-01T18:01:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Image_copyright_problem_with_Image:Logo-IMI.gif-2008-10-01T18:01:00.000Z"></span>Image copyright problem with Image:Logo-IMI.gif<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Image_copyright_problem_with_Image:Logo-IMI.gif-2008-10-01T18:01:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Apcbg&action=edit&section=64" title="Edit section: Image copyright problem with Image:Logo-IMI.gif"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Asenine-2008-10-01T18:01:00.000Z-Image_copyright_problem_with_Image:Logo-IMI.gif"></span><figure class="mw-halign-left" typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Copyright-problem.svg" class="mw-file-description" title="Image Copyright problem"><img alt="Image Copyright problem" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/c/cf/Copyright-problem.svg/64px-Copyright-problem.svg.png" decoding="async" width="64" height="69" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/c/cf/Copyright-problem.svg/96px-Copyright-problem.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/c/cf/Copyright-problem.svg/128px-Copyright-problem.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="111" data-file-height="120"/></a><figcaption>Image Copyright problem</figcaption></figure> <p>Thank you for uploading <a href="/w/index.php?title=File:Logo-IMI.gif&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="File:Logo-IMI.gif (page does not exist)">Image:Logo-IMI.gif</a>. However, it currently is missing information on its copyright status. Wikipedia takes <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Copyrights" title="Wikipedia:Copyrights">copyright</a> very seriously. It may be deleted soon, unless we can determine the <b>license</b> and the <b>source</b> of the image. If you know this information, then you can add a <b><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Image_copyright_tags" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:Image copyright tags">copyright tag</a></b> to the <a href="/wiki/Help:Image_page" class="mw-redirect" title="Help:Image page">image description page</a>. </p><p>If you have uploaded other files, consider checking that you have specified their license and tagged them, too. You can find a list of files you have uploaded by following <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Log&type=upload&user=Apcbg">this link</a>. </p><p>If you have any questions, please feel free to ask them at the <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Media_copyright_questions" title="Wikipedia:Media copyright questions">media copyright questions page</a>. Thanks again for your cooperation. <small><span style="border:1px solid black;padding:1px;"><a href="/wiki/User:Asenine" title="User:Asenine"><i><span style="color:white;background:#4682b4;font-family:sans-serif;"><b> Ase</b></span></i></a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Asenine" title="User talk:Asenine"><i><span style="color:white;background:#4682b4;font-family:sans-serif;"><b>nine </b></span></i></a></span></small> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Apcbg#c-Asenine-2008-10-01T18:01:00.000Z-Image_copyright_problem_with_Image:Logo-IMI.gif" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:01, 1 October 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Asenine-2008-10-01T18:01:00.000Z-Image_copyright_problem_with_Image:Logo-IMI.gif"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Asenine-2008-10-01T18:01:00.000Z-Image_copyright_problem_with_Image:Logo-IMI.gif"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Apcbg-2008-10-01T18:16:00.000Z-Asenine-2008-10-01T18:01:00.000Z"></span>Okay, I have added the 'Non-free logo' tag, and trust that the accompanying fair use rationale is adequate for the use of that logo in the article on the relevant institution. <a href="/wiki/User:Apcbg" title="User:Apcbg">Apcbg</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Apcbg#c-Apcbg-2008-10-01T18:16:00.000Z-Asenine-2008-10-01T18:01:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:16, 1 October 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Apcbg-2008-10-01T18:16:00.000Z-Asenine-2008-10-01T18:01:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Apcbg-2008-10-01T18:16:00.000Z-Asenine-2008-10-01T18:01:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Asenine-2008-10-01T21:20:00.000Z-Apcbg-2008-10-01T18:16:00.000Z"></span>All looks in order. <small><span style="border:1px solid black;padding:1px;"><a href="/wiki/User:Asenine" title="User:Asenine"><i><span style="color:white;background:#4682b4;font-family:sans-serif;"><b> Ase</b></span></i></a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Asenine" title="User talk:Asenine"><i><span style="color:white;background:#4682b4;font-family:sans-serif;"><b>nine </b></span></i></a></span></small> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Apcbg#c-Asenine-2008-10-01T21:20:00.000Z-Apcbg-2008-10-01T18:16:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:20, 1 October 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Asenine-2008-10-01T21:20:00.000Z-Apcbg-2008-10-01T18:16:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Asenine-2008-10-01T21:20:00.000Z-Apcbg-2008-10-01T18:16:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Apcbg-2008-10-02T05:25:00.000Z-Asenine-2008-10-01T21:20:00.000Z"></span>Thanks! <a href="/wiki/User:Apcbg" title="User:Apcbg">Apcbg</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Apcbg#c-Apcbg-2008-10-02T05:25:00.000Z-Asenine-2008-10-01T21:20:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">05:25, 2 October 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Apcbg-2008-10-02T05:25:00.000Z-Asenine-2008-10-01T21:20:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Apcbg-2008-10-02T05:25:00.000Z-Asenine-2008-10-01T21:20:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Duff_Point" data-mw-thread-id="h-Duff_Point-2008-11-10T15:16:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Duff_Point-2008-11-10T15:16:00.000Z"></span>Duff Point<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Duff_Point-2008-11-10T15:16:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Apcbg&action=edit&section=65" title="Edit section: Duff Point"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Kingturtle-2008-11-10T15:16:00.000Z-Duff_Point"></span>Thank you for creating <a href="/wiki/Duff_Point" title="Duff Point">Duff Point</a>! Happy editing, <a href="/wiki/User:Kingturtle" title="User:Kingturtle">Kingturtle</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Kingturtle" title="User talk:Kingturtle">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Apcbg#c-Kingturtle-2008-11-10T15:16:00.000Z-Duff_Point" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:16, 10 November 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Kingturtle-2008-11-10T15:16:00.000Z-Duff_Point"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Kingturtle-2008-11-10T15:16:00.000Z-Duff_Point"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Apcbg-2008-11-10T15:42:00.000Z-Kingturtle-2008-11-10T15:16:00.000Z"></span>Many thanks, wish you the same. Best, <a href="/wiki/User:Apcbg" title="User:Apcbg">Apcbg</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Apcbg#c-Apcbg-2008-11-10T15:42:00.000Z-Kingturtle-2008-11-10T15:16:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:42, 10 November 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Apcbg-2008-11-10T15:42:00.000Z-Kingturtle-2008-11-10T15:16:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Apcbg-2008-11-10T15:42:00.000Z-Kingturtle-2008-11-10T15:16:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Articles_for_Deletion" data-mw-thread-id="h-Articles_for_Deletion-2008-11-12T10:31:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Articles_for_Deletion-2008-11-12T10:31:00.000Z"></span>Articles for Deletion<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Articles_for_Deletion-2008-11-12T10:31:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Apcbg&action=edit&section=66" title="Edit section: Articles for Deletion"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Narson-2008-11-12T10:31:00.000Z-Articles_for_Deletion"></span>I have put up my opinion at the deletion discussion. Apologies for not having seen it, I am not an avid AfD watcher (and I have been swamped with university now. Cheerfully we get a class trip in january, to Auschwitz. Not at all depressing). Just a note for the future, so you don't run afoul of things, it is best when suggesting AfDs people will be interested in that you avoid mentioning the conclusion you reached. People get very sensitive and start screaming CANVASS! like deranged parrots. <span style="font-famiy: verdana;"> --<a href="/wiki/User:Narson" title="User:Narson"><span style="color:#1100;"><b>Narson</b></span></a> ~ <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Narson" title="User talk:Narson"><span style="color:#900;"><i>Talk</i></span></a> • </span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Apcbg#c-Narson-2008-11-12T10:31:00.000Z-Articles_for_Deletion" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:31, 12 November 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Narson-2008-11-12T10:31:00.000Z-Articles_for_Deletion"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Narson-2008-11-12T10:31:00.000Z-Articles_for_Deletion"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Apcbg-2008-11-12T11:01:00.000Z-Narson-2008-11-12T10:31:00.000Z"></span>Thanks, for the avice too! <a href="/wiki/User:Apcbg" title="User:Apcbg">Apcbg</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Apcbg#c-Apcbg-2008-11-12T11:01:00.000Z-Narson-2008-11-12T10:31:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:01, 12 November 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Apcbg-2008-11-12T11:01:00.000Z-Narson-2008-11-12T10:31:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Apcbg-2008-11-12T11:01:00.000Z-Narson-2008-11-12T10:31:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Justin_A_Kuntz-2008-11-12T11:29:00.000Z-Apcbg-2008-11-12T11:01:00.000Z"></span>I was about to add pretty much the same as Narson. Apologies for missing the AFD nomination. You and I both know each other, so you know I would always make up my own mind and not be swayed by your opinion but others could miscontrue your actions. Anyway I rather agree that its a strong keep anyway, arguments to the contrary seem a bit contrived and specious to me. <i><a href="/wiki/User:Justin_A_Kuntz" title="User:Justin A Kuntz">Justin</a></i> <small><i><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Justin_A_Kuntz" title="User talk:Justin A Kuntz">talk</a></i></small> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Apcbg#c-Justin_A_Kuntz-2008-11-12T11:29:00.000Z-Apcbg-2008-11-12T11:01:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:29, 12 November 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Justin_A_Kuntz-2008-11-12T11:29:00.000Z-Apcbg-2008-11-12T11:01:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Justin_A_Kuntz-2008-11-12T11:29:00.000Z-Apcbg-2008-11-12T11:01:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Narson-2008-11-12T11:37:00.000Z-Justin_A_Kuntz-2008-11-12T11:29:00.000Z"></span>Ugh. Someone bought Justin a thesaurus ;) I knew educating those scots would cause problems. Anyway, happy to look over those things. Really, I would support a merge if the info wouldn't look shoehorned, it just seems like a bit too much info to merge comfortably, to me. Unless you did a 'list of people born on blah' which would be weird. If you end up at the Uni of Northampton, I'll be more than happy to buy you a coffee ;)<span style="font-famiy: verdana;"> --<a href="/wiki/User:Narson" title="User:Narson"><span style="color:#1100;"><b>Narson</b></span></a> ~ <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Narson" title="User talk:Narson"><span style="color:#900;"><i>Talk</i></span></a> • </span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Apcbg#c-Narson-2008-11-12T11:37:00.000Z-Justin_A_Kuntz-2008-11-12T11:29:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:37, 12 November 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Narson-2008-11-12T11:37:00.000Z-Justin_A_Kuntz-2008-11-12T11:29:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Narson-2008-11-12T11:37:00.000Z-Justin_A_Kuntz-2008-11-12T11:29:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Apcbg-2008-11-12T13:48:00.000Z-Narson-2008-11-12T11:37:00.000Z"></span>Apologies folks, it never occurred to me that speaking one's mind would be misconstrued under the circumstances; I've always presumed that everybody here would take one or another (or none at all) view based on one's own judgement, including one's judgement whether to take into account or disregard someone else's opinion. So I promiss to duly respect possible deletionist sensitivities in the future. As for the merger of articles, I am most sceptical in principle, and would need to see a clear and convincing rational purpose of improving the particular article or Wikipedia in general in order to support such a proposal. Anyway, if anyone of you (and Pfainuk too) happens to visit Sofia, I'd be happy to buy you a coffee or whatever you drink. Best, <a href="/wiki/User:Apcbg" title="User:Apcbg">Apcbg</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Apcbg#c-Apcbg-2008-11-12T13:48:00.000Z-Narson-2008-11-12T11:37:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:48, 12 November 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Apcbg-2008-11-12T13:48:00.000Z-Narson-2008-11-12T11:37:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Apcbg-2008-11-12T13:48:00.000Z-Narson-2008-11-12T11:37:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Wikinews" data-mw-thread-id="h-Wikinews-2008-12-10T22:01:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Wikinews-2008-12-10T22:01:00.000Z"></span>Wikinews<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Wikinews-2008-12-10T22:01:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Apcbg&action=edit&section=67" title="Edit section: Wikinews"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Narson-2008-12-10T22:01:00.000Z-Wikinews"></span>Have you considered whether you would consent to giving an interview to our sister publication, Wikinews? Considering some of the stuff of yours I've read, it would be interesting to get your opinion on recent events and, of course, your antarctic work. (I'll admit, I just recently started editing there and am quite enjoying it). <span style="font-famiy: verdana;"> --<a href="/wiki/User:Narson" title="User:Narson"><span style="color:#1100;"><b>Narson</b></span></a> ~ <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Narson" title="User talk:Narson"><span style="color:#900;"><i>Talk</i></span></a> • </span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Apcbg#c-Narson-2008-12-10T22:01:00.000Z-Wikinews" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:01, 10 December 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Narson-2008-12-10T22:01:00.000Z-Wikinews"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Narson-2008-12-10T22:01:00.000Z-Wikinews"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Bulgaria" data-mw-thread-id="h-Bulgaria-2009-01-02T14:51:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Bulgaria-2009-01-02T14:51:00.000Z"></span>Bulgaria<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Bulgaria-2009-01-02T14:51:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Apcbg&action=edit&section=68" title="Edit section: Bulgaria"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Tpbradbury-2009-01-02T14:51:00.000Z-Bulgaria"></span>Someone deleted 'Former Monarchies' cat a couple of days ago because 'Former monarchies' already exists hence me switching them on article, <a href="/wiki/User:Tpbradbury" title="User:Tpbradbury">Tom B</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Tpbradbury" title="User talk:Tpbradbury">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Apcbg#c-Tpbradbury-2009-01-02T14:51:00.000Z-Bulgaria" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:51, 2 January 2009 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Tpbradbury-2009-01-02T14:51:00.000Z-Bulgaria"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Tpbradbury-2009-01-02T14:51:00.000Z-Bulgaria"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Apcbg-2009-01-02T14:55:00.000Z-Tpbradbury-2009-01-02T14:51:00.000Z"></span>Okay; and Merry Christmas and Happy New year! <a href="/wiki/User:Apcbg" title="User:Apcbg">Apcbg</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Apcbg#c-Apcbg-2009-01-02T14:55:00.000Z-Tpbradbury-2009-01-02T14:51:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:55, 2 January 2009 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Apcbg-2009-01-02T14:55:00.000Z-Tpbradbury-2009-01-02T14:51:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Apcbg-2009-01-02T14:55:00.000Z-Tpbradbury-2009-01-02T14:51:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Photo_of_Church_on_Falkland_Islands" data-mw-thread-id="h-Photo_of_Church_on_Falkland_Islands-2009-01-20T19:11:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Photo_of_Church_on_Falkland_Islands-2009-01-20T19:11:00.000Z"></span>Photo of Church on Falkland Islands<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Photo_of_Church_on_Falkland_Islands-2009-01-20T19:11:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Apcbg&action=edit&section=69" title="Edit section: Photo of Church on Falkland Islands"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Sky_Diva-2009-01-20T19:11:00.000Z-Photo_of_Church_on_Falkland_Islands"></span>This photo <a class="external free" href="https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Datei:Christchurch-Cathedral.jpg">http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Datei:Christchurch-Cathedral.jpg</a> is awesome. Is it for real? It looks like painted. --<a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Sky_Diva&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Sky Diva (page does not exist)">Sky Diva</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Sky_Diva" title="User talk:Sky Diva">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Apcbg#c-Sky_Diva-2009-01-20T19:11:00.000Z-Photo_of_Church_on_Falkland_Islands" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:11, 20 January 2009 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Sky_Diva-2009-01-20T19:11:00.000Z-Photo_of_Church_on_Falkland_Islands"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Sky_Diva-2009-01-20T19:11:00.000Z-Photo_of_Church_on_Falkland_Islands"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Speedy_deletion_of_Michael_Holman_(linguist)" data-mw-thread-id="h-Speedy_deletion_of_Michael_Holman_(linguist)-2009-03-13T22:20:00.000Z"><span id="Speedy_deletion_of_Michael_Holman_.28linguist.29"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Speedy_deletion_of_Michael_Holman_(linguist)-2009-03-13T22:20:00.000Z"></span>Speedy deletion of <a href="/wiki/Michael_Holman_(linguist)" title="Michael Holman (linguist)">Michael Holman (linguist)</a><span data-mw-comment-end="h-Speedy_deletion_of_Michael_Holman_(linguist)-2009-03-13T22:20:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Apcbg&action=edit&section=70" title="Edit section: Speedy deletion of Michael Holman (linguist)"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Rwiggum-2009-03-13T22:20:00.000Z-Speedy_deletion_of_Michael_Holman_(linguist)"></span><figure class="mw-halign-left" typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Ambox_warning_pn.svg" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/1/15/Ambox_warning_pn.svg/48px-Ambox_warning_pn.svg.png" decoding="async" width="48" height="42" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/1/15/Ambox_warning_pn.svg/72px-Ambox_warning_pn.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/1/15/Ambox_warning_pn.svg/96px-Ambox_warning_pn.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="512" data-file-height="445"/></a><figcaption></figcaption></figure><p> A tag has been placed on <a href="/wiki/Michael_Holman_(linguist)" title="Michael Holman (linguist)">Michael Holman (linguist)</a> requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:CSD#A7" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:CSD">section A7 of the criteria for speedy deletion</a>, because the article appears to be about a person or group of people, but it does not indicate how or why the subject is important or significant: that is, why an article about that subject should be included in an encyclopedia. Under the <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:CSD#Articles" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:CSD">criteria for speedy deletion</a>, such articles may be deleted at any time. Please <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Notability" title="Wikipedia:Notability">see the guidelines for what is generally accepted as notable</a>, as well as our subject-specific <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Notability_(people)" title="Wikipedia:Notability (people)">notability guideline for biographies</a>. </p><p>If you think that this notice was placed here in error, you may contest the deletion by adding <code><span class="nowrap">{{</span><a href="/wiki/Template:Hangon" title="Template:Hangon">hangon</a><span class="nowrap">}}</span></code> to <b>the top of <a href="/wiki/Michael_Holman_(linguist)" title="Michael Holman (linguist)">the page that has been nominated for deletion</a></b> (just below the existing speedy deletion or "db" tag), coupled with adding a note on <b><a href="/wiki/Talk:Michael_Holman_(linguist)" title="Talk:Michael Holman (linguist)">the talk page</a></b> explaining your position, but be aware that once tagged for <i>speedy</i> deletion, if the page meets the criterion it may be deleted without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag yourself, but don't hesitate to add information to the page that would render it more in conformance with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. Lastly, please note that if the page does get deleted, you can contact <a href="/wiki/Category:Wikipedia_administrators_who_will_provide_copies_of_deleted_articles" title="Category:Wikipedia administrators who will provide copies of deleted articles">one of these admins</a> to request that they <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Userfication#Userfication_of_deleted_content" title="Wikipedia:Userfication">userfy</a> the page or have a copy emailed to you. <a href="/wiki/User:Rwiggum" title="User:Rwiggum"><span style="color: #4B5320;">Rwiggum</span></a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Rwiggum" title="User talk:Rwiggum"><sup style="color:black;"><b>Talk</b></sup></a>/<a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Rwiggum" title="Special:Contributions/Rwiggum"><sub style="color:black;"><b>Contrib</b></sub></a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Apcbg#c-Rwiggum-2009-03-13T22:20:00.000Z-Speedy_deletion_of_Michael_Holman_(linguist)" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:20, 13 March 2009 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Rwiggum-2009-03-13T22:20:00.000Z-Speedy_deletion_of_Michael_Holman_(linguist)"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Rwiggum-2009-03-13T22:20:00.000Z-Speedy_deletion_of_Michael_Holman_(linguist)"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Apcbg-2009-03-13T23:36:00.000Z-Rwiggum-2009-03-13T22:20:00.000Z"></span>That speedy deletion tag has been removed by <a href="/wiki/User:DGG" title="User:DGG">DGG</a> as indeed Holman's published work “is at least a minimal claim to notability.” <a href="/wiki/User:Apcbg" title="User:Apcbg">Apcbg</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Apcbg#c-Apcbg-2009-03-13T23:36:00.000Z-Rwiggum-2009-03-13T22:20:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:36, 13 March 2009 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Apcbg-2009-03-13T23:36:00.000Z-Rwiggum-2009-03-13T22:20:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Apcbg-2009-03-13T23:36:00.000Z-Rwiggum-2009-03-13T22:20:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Image_copyright_problem_with_File:Wilderness-Fund-Logo.PNG" data-mw-thread-id="h-Image_copyright_problem_with_File:Wilderness-Fund-Logo.PNG-2009-03-29T10:58:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Image_copyright_problem_with_File:Wilderness-Fund-Logo.PNG-2009-03-29T10:58:00.000Z"></span>Image copyright problem with File:Wilderness-Fund-Logo.PNG<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Image_copyright_problem_with_File:Wilderness-Fund-Logo.PNG-2009-03-29T10:58:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Apcbg&action=edit&section=71" title="Edit section: Image copyright problem with File:Wilderness-Fund-Logo.PNG"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-STBotI-2009-03-29T10:58:00.000Z-Image_copyright_problem_with_File:Wilderness-Fund-Logo.PNG"></span>Thanks for uploading <a href="/wiki/File:Wilderness-Fund-Logo.PNG" title="File:Wilderness-Fund-Logo.PNG">File:Wilderness-Fund-Logo.PNG</a>. The image has been identified as not specifying the copyright status of the image, which is required by Wikipedia's policy on images. Even if you created the image yourself, you still need to release it so Wikipedia can use it. If you don't indicate the copyright status of the image on the image's description page, using an appropriate <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:ICT" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:ICT">copyright tag</a>, it may be deleted some time in the next seven days. 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NOTE: once you correct this, please remove the tag from the image's page. <a href="/wiki/User:STBotI" title="User:STBotI">STBotI</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:STBotI" title="User talk:STBotI">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Apcbg#c-STBotI-2009-03-29T10:58:00.000Z-Image_copyright_problem_with_File:Wilderness-Fund-Logo.PNG" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:58, 29 March 2009 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-STBotI-2009-03-29T10:58:00.000Z-Image_copyright_problem_with_File:Wilderness-Fund-Logo.PNG"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-STBotI-2009-03-29T10:58:00.000Z-Image_copyright_problem_with_File:Wilderness-Fund-Logo.PNG"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Apcbg-2009-03-29T17:20:00.000Z-STBotI-2009-03-29T10:58:00.000Z"></span>Non-free logo template added. <a href="/wiki/User:Apcbg" title="User:Apcbg">Apcbg</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Apcbg#c-Apcbg-2009-03-29T17:20:00.000Z-STBotI-2009-03-29T10:58:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:20, 29 March 2009 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Apcbg-2009-03-29T17:20:00.000Z-STBotI-2009-03-29T10:58:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Apcbg-2009-03-29T17:20:00.000Z-STBotI-2009-03-29T10:58:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Cámara_base" data-mw-thread-id="h-Cámara_base-2009-03-31T21:57:00.000Z"><span id="C.C3.A1mara_base"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Cámara_base-2009-03-31T21:57:00.000Z"></span>Cámara base<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Cámara_base-2009-03-31T21:57:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Apcbg&action=edit&section=72" title="Edit section: Cámara base"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Bcartolo-2009-03-31T21:57:00.000Z-Cámara_base"></span>Hi </p><p>Thanks for correcting the image I have uploaded. I asked my brother and he said the base showed in the picture is Brown, so I have reuploaded it and place the speedy deletion template in the new one. </p><p>Best Regards <a href="/wiki/User:Bcartolo" title="User:Bcartolo">bcartolo</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Bcartolo" title="User talk:Bcartolo">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Apcbg#c-Bcartolo-2009-03-31T21:57:00.000Z-Cámara_base" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:57, 31 March 2009 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Bcartolo-2009-03-31T21:57:00.000Z-Cámara_base"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Bcartolo-2009-03-31T21:57:00.000Z-Cámara_base"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Apcbg-2009-03-31T22:00:00.000Z-Bcartolo-2009-03-31T21:57:00.000Z"></span>Dear Bcartolo, happy to be of use. Best, <a href="/wiki/User:Apcbg" title="User:Apcbg">Apcbg</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Apcbg#c-Apcbg-2009-03-31T22:00:00.000Z-Bcartolo-2009-03-31T21:57:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:00, 31 March 2009 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Apcbg-2009-03-31T22:00:00.000Z-Bcartolo-2009-03-31T21:57:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Apcbg-2009-03-31T22:00:00.000Z-Bcartolo-2009-03-31T21:57:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Sorry..." data-mw-thread-id="h-Sorry...-2009-04-04T14:59:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Sorry...-2009-04-04T14:59:00.000Z"></span>Sorry...<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Sorry...-2009-04-04T14:59:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Apcbg&action=edit&section=73" title="Edit section: Sorry..."><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Δρακόλακκος-2009-04-04T14:59:00.000Z-Sorry..."></span>Sorry for bothering you here also, it was a mistake of mine, i was writing an explanation in the edit summary box but pressed "enter" by accident. My comment was not addressing your contributions at all.--<a href="/wiki/User:%CE%94%CF%81%CE%B1%CE%BA%CF%8C%CE%BB%CE%B1%CE%BA%CE%BA%CE%BF%CF%82" title="User:Δρακόλακκος">Δρακόλακκος</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:%CE%94%CF%81%CE%B1%CE%BA%CF%8C%CE%BB%CE%B1%CE%BA%CE%BA%CE%BF%CF%82" title="User talk:Δρακόλακκος">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Apcbg#c-Δρακόλακκος-2009-04-04T14:59:00.000Z-Sorry..." class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:59, 4 April 2009 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Δρακόλακκος-2009-04-04T14:59:00.000Z-Sorry..."><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Δρακόλακκος-2009-04-04T14:59:00.000Z-Sorry..."></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Apcbg-2009-04-04T17:27:00.000Z-Δρακόλακκος-2009-04-04T14:59:00.000Z"></span>No problem really, but anyway thank you for your kindness. Best, <a href="/wiki/User:Apcbg" title="User:Apcbg">Apcbg</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Apcbg#c-Apcbg-2009-04-04T17:27:00.000Z-Δρακόλακκος-2009-04-04T14:59:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:27, 4 April 2009 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Apcbg-2009-04-04T17:27:00.000Z-Δρακόλακκος-2009-04-04T14:59:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Apcbg-2009-04-04T17:27:00.000Z-Δρακόλακκος-2009-04-04T14:59:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Talk:Greece" data-mw-thread-id="h-Talk:Greece-2009-04-15T21:52:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Talk:Greece-2009-04-15T21:52:00.000Z"></span><a href="/wiki/Talk:Greece" title="Talk:Greece">Talk:Greece</a><span data-mw-comment-end="h-Talk:Greece-2009-04-15T21:52:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Apcbg&action=edit&section=74" title="Edit section: Talk:Greece"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-John_Carter-2009-04-15T21:52:00.000Z-Talk:Greece"></span>It was me who, I believe, suggested that ArbCom recommend the policies be changed. I do not and never have thought that they could change policies themsleves. I said I had a "proposal for them", I didn't say that the proposal was that <i>they</i> would change policy. However, that is not so relevant. What <i>is</i> relevant is that even your apology is in violation of talk page guidelines, and, as per the template recently added to the top of the page, should be removed immediately as such. Please at least <i>try</i> to stick to the point, which is dealing with the article, not making misleading statements regarding the statements of others. Thank you. <a href="/wiki/User:John_Carter" title="User:John Carter">John Carter</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:John_Carter" title="User talk:John Carter">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Apcbg#c-John_Carter-2009-04-15T21:52:00.000Z-Talk:Greece" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:52, 15 April 2009 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-John_Carter-2009-04-15T21:52:00.000Z-Talk:Greece"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-John_Carter-2009-04-15T21:52:00.000Z-Talk:Greece"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-John_Carter-2009-04-16T13:50:00.000Z-John_Carter-2009-04-15T21:52:00.000Z"></span>John, like I wrote that was not meant as the literal quote from a particular comment ("Some ‘supporters’ wrote etc." is <i>plural</i>). Then you claimed to be the author, and that you are misquoted, so I modified my text to reflect your relevant statement; I'll be inserting the "recommend the policies be changed" piece too. Anyway, should you still believe that my comment in question is misrepresenting your input or otherwise abusive or violating that talk page guidelines, then feel free to delete it. Best, <a href="/wiki/User:Apcbg" title="User:Apcbg">Apcbg</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <dl><dd>Understood, and I didn't take it as such. Unfortunately, we have to be careful about what we say others said, particularly if those statements are inaccurate, as they can be used as "weapons" by others (not you, I didn't mean you) against the alleged speakers. And I only placed the tag on the page because it seemed to me required, although your own input was no worse than a lot of others I've seen elsewhere and not reacted similarly to. But some of the editors invovled seem to have offered little if any real substantive comment, instead apparently attempting to sidetrack the discussion by insults or other attempts at misdirection. In the end, all they do is make the page much longer, harder to read and respond to, and otherwise make things worse in general. Sorry if my earlier statements were harsher than they needed to be, but I can get more than a bit tempermental at times, and this seems to have been one of them. My apologies again. <a href="/wiki/User:John_Carter" title="User:John Carter">John Carter</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:John_Carter" title="User talk:John Carter">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Apcbg#c-John_Carter-2009-04-16T13:50:00.000Z-John_Carter-2009-04-15T21:52:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:50, 16 April 2009 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-John_Carter-2009-04-16T13:50:00.000Z-John_Carter-2009-04-15T21:52:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-John_Carter-2009-04-16T13:50:00.000Z-John_Carter-2009-04-15T21:52:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Apcbg-2009-04-16T14:39:00.000Z-John_Carter-2009-04-16T13:50:00.000Z"></span>No offense at all. I saw the reasons for your concern, so there is no need to apologise. My principle is: discuss topics not people, ad hominem is a sign of weakness; respect your opponents (if sometimes one's behaviour makes that impossible, don't show it); a confrontational win that antagonizes one's opponents is likely to become a loss in the long run. And while we all could make a mistake now and then, it's much better to admit rather than deepen it. Best, <a href="/wiki/User:Apcbg" title="User:Apcbg">Apcbg</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Apcbg#c-Apcbg-2009-04-16T14:39:00.000Z-John_Carter-2009-04-16T13:50:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:39, 16 April 2009 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Apcbg-2009-04-16T14:39:00.000Z-John_Carter-2009-04-16T13:50:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Apcbg-2009-04-16T14:39:00.000Z-John_Carter-2009-04-16T13:50:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Bulgarian_Macedonia" data-mw-thread-id="h-Bulgarian_Macedonia-2009-05-06T22:48:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Bulgarian_Macedonia-2009-05-06T22:48:00.000Z"></span>Bulgarian Macedonia<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Bulgarian_Macedonia-2009-05-06T22:48:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Apcbg&action=edit&section=75" title="Edit section: Bulgarian Macedonia"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Shadowmorph-2009-05-06T22:48:00.000Z-Bulgarian_Macedonia"></span>I have been under the impression that the Bulgarian province is more commonly referred to as Blagoevgrad. Its people probably self-identify as Macedonians but does the province by itself qualify to appear in the dab page for Macedonia? I am not exactly sure so I am asking you. 'Pirin Macedonia' is a term sometimes used, mostly by nationalists from the nearby republic. But does that mean that at least in English, Macedonia alone is used for the <a href="/wiki/Blagoevgrad_Province" title="Blagoevgrad Province">Blagoevgrad Province</a>? Of course it is part of the geographic Macedonia under one definition, that is covered in the articles. </p><p>The map<a class="external autonumber" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Macedonia_(disambiguation).png">[7]</a> I made was not intended as the most accurate geographic map but a tool to help disambiguate the word. You noticed that I have made the best efforts to be clear that Bulgaria also has a piece of the geographic region - it is an improvement of the one by Future that is now on the page. </p><p>Would you have any suggestions on how to cover/fit the Bulgarian province description in that map? Keep in mind that I too find it awkward to include a map in the dab page, but it might be helpful to some readers. <a href="/wiki/User:Shadowmorph" title="User:Shadowmorph"><span style="color:#224222;font-weight:bold">Shadow</span><span style="color:#335533">mor</span><span style="color:#668866">ph</span></a> <sup><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Shadowmorph" title="User talk:Shadowmorph"><span style="color:#131313;font-weight:bold">^"^</span></a></sup> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Apcbg#c-Shadowmorph-2009-05-06T22:48:00.000Z-Bulgarian_Macedonia" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:48, 6 May 2009 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Shadowmorph-2009-05-06T22:48:00.000Z-Bulgarian_Macedonia"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Shadowmorph-2009-05-06T22:48:00.000Z-Bulgarian_Macedonia"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Apcbg-2009-05-08T13:42:00.000Z-Shadowmorph-2009-05-06T22:48:00.000Z"></span>The names <i>Pirin Macedonia</i>, <i>Aegean Macedonia</i> and <i>Vardar Macedonia</i> (Bulgarian: <i>Pirinska Makedoniya</i>, <i>Egeyska Makedoniya</i> and <i>Vardarska Makedoniya</i>) are well established in the post-1913 Bulgarian usage. They are used for the respective historical-geographical regions, and no longer have any irredentist connotations bar few marginal nationalists. (That the same names are used in another discourse by Skopje is their problem that could not interfere with the normal Bulgarian practice.)</dd></dl> <dl><dd>This usage is part of the general Bulgarian practice which I shall try to describe briefly below.</dd></dl> <dl><dd>As you may know, the country is divided into 28 administrative regions or provinces named as a rule after their respective principal cities (excepting Sofia Province that does not include the city itself which constitutes a separate Sofia City Province).</dd></dl> <dl><dd>However, along with that administrative division the country has a number of historical-geographical regions of different scope and dimension that often transcend administrative borders.</dd></dl> <dl><dd>The principal such historical-geographical regions are <i>Miziya</i> (English/Roman <i>Moesia</i>) comprising all the provinces north of the Balkan Range including a part of Sofia Province; <i>Trakiya</i> (English <i>Thrace</i>) comprising the provinces south of the Balkan Range excepting Sofia, Sofia City, Pernik, Kyustendil and Blagoevgrad Provinces (in Bulgarian usage the Greek territory east of Nestos River is <i>Western Thrace</i> while Turkey’s European territory is known as <i>Eastern Thrace</i>); and <i>Pirinska Makedoniya</i> (English <i>Pirin Macedonia</i>) which coincides with Blagoevgrad Province.</dd></dl> <dl><dd>Besides, there are some smaller historical-geographical regions such as <i>Dobrudzha</i> (Dobrich and Silistra Provinces; in Bulgarian usage the Romanian territory between the Danube and Black Sea is <i>Northern Dobrudzha</i>); <i>Rodopi</i> (English <i>Rhodopes</i>) which comprises the relevant mountainous area situated mostly in <i>Trakiya</i> but having its western extremity in <i>Pirinska Makedoniya</i> too; and <i>Shopsko</i> (most of Sofia, Sofia City, Pernik and Kyustendil Provinces in Western Bulgaria).</dd></dl> <dl><dd>Furthermore, there are also some still smaller historical-geographical regions such as <i>Strandzha</i> (the homonymous mountain and the adjacent sea coast); <i>Ludogorie</i> or <i>Deliorman</i> in Northeastern Bulgaria; <i>Gerlovo</i> in Northeastern Bulgaria; <i>Graovo</i> and <i>Znepole</i> in Pernik Province, <i>Chech</i> in Blagoevgrad Province etc.</dd></dl> <dl><dd>While not administrative entities, these regions cannot be regarded as ‘unofficial’ as their names (involving regional identities too) are widely used in the Bulgarian public practice including in official documents such as regional development programs, decisions, proceedings etc. of government, parliament, judiciary, and local authorities; for instance, <i>Pirin Macedonia</i> – and mind it, not as a quote of Skopje wording either – is found in <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="http://www.tourism.government.bg/files/politics/file_173_bg.doc">(1)</a>, <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="http://vcc.gateway.bg/upload/docs/OSRR_1.pdf">(2)</a>, <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="http://www.parliament.bg/?page=plSt&lng=bg&SType=show&id=380">(3)</a>, <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="http://www.parliament.bg/?page=ns&lng=bg&nsid=5&action=show&Type=cmSteno&SType=show&gid=156&id=491">(4)</a>, <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="http://www.petrich.bg/obs/upload/uploaded/protocol-8-02-06-04g..doc">(5)</a>, <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="http://www.constcourt.bg/Pages/Document/default.aspx?ID=532">(6)</a>, <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="http://www.justice.government.bg/new/Documents/Verdicts/CASE_OF_UNITED_MACEDONIAN_ORGANISATION_ILINDEN_AND_OTHERS_v_BULGARIA_FINAL_BG_edited.doc">(7)</a>.</dd></dl> <dl><dd>Back to the Macedonia case here. From a disambiguation point of view, users would be facilitated if they get an idea of the complex reality concerning Macedonia with its present territorial entities, and linguistic and ethnic identities involving the usage of the names ‘Macedonia’ and ‘Macedonian’. Meaning in particular that the currently nameless overlapping territory of Bulgaria and Macedonia (region) on your map would be desirable to get some distinct colour, and its name ‘Pirin Macedonia’ or ‘Blagoevgrad Province’ – no big difference which one; taking the map’s scale/configuration into account, that might as well be shortened to ‘<i>Pirin M.</i>’ or ‘<i>Pirin</i>’. I also agree that the map doesn’t seem to sit too well on the disambiguation page, but then it may be used beneficially in other relevant articles.</dd></dl> <dl><dd>It is also my opinion that even if – as you point out – 'Macedonia' alone is not used for 'Pirin Macedonia' (and correctly so one might say), Bulgarian Macedonia nevertheless has its own place in the Macedonia disambiguation page regardless of the map too, but so far has been persistently removed from there. <a href="/wiki/User:Apcbg" title="User:Apcbg">Apcbg</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Apcbg#c-Apcbg-2009-05-08T13:42:00.000Z-Shadowmorph-2009-05-06T22:48:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:42, 8 May 2009 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Apcbg-2009-05-08T13:42:00.000Z-Shadowmorph-2009-05-06T22:48:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Apcbg-2009-05-08T13:42:00.000Z-Shadowmorph-2009-05-06T22:48:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Shadowmorph-2009-05-08T15:42:00.000Z-Apcbg-2009-05-08T13:42:00.000Z"></span>Thanks for the analysis. I guess it would be ok to include the Bulgarian Macedonia in the dab page then. If you have followed my edits at <a href="/wiki/Macedonia_(disambiguation)" class="mw-redirect mw-disambig" title="Macedonia (disambiguation)">Macedonia (disambiguation)</a> when it was a primary topic, before ChrisO moved it, you can see that I always was for including all possible Macedonias. That is what other geographic dab pages do. I would also support to add West Macedonia, Central Macedonia etc. If I remember correctly I had suggested something in italics, like: <ul><li><i>for the region in Bulgaria also known as Pirin Macedonia see <a href="/wiki/Blagoevgrad_province" class="mw-redirect" title="Blagoevgrad province">Blagoevgrad province</a></i>.</li></ul></dd> <dd>It can go between Macedonia (Greece) and Macedonia (region) with a little tweaking. <a href="/wiki/User:Shadowmorph" title="User:Shadowmorph"><span style="color:#224222;font-weight:bold">Shadow</span><span style="color:#335533">mor</span><span style="color:#668866">ph</span></a> <sup><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Shadowmorph" title="User talk:Shadowmorph"><span style="color:#131313;font-weight:bold">^"^</span></a></sup> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Apcbg#c-Shadowmorph-2009-05-08T15:42:00.000Z-Apcbg-2009-05-08T13:42:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:42, 8 May 2009 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Shadowmorph-2009-05-08T15:42:00.000Z-Apcbg-2009-05-08T13:42:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Shadowmorph-2009-05-08T15:42:00.000Z-Apcbg-2009-05-08T13:42:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Shadowmorph-2009-05-08T15:50:00.000Z-Shadowmorph-2009-05-08T15:42:00.000Z"></span>Here is what I once tried to add <a class="external autonumber" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Macedonia_(disambiguation)&diff=next&oldid=283963136">[8]</a>. Of course now we have splitted the adjective. <a href="/wiki/User:Shadowmorph" title="User:Shadowmorph"><span style="color:#224222;font-weight:bold">Shadow</span><span style="color:#335533">mor</span><span style="color:#668866">ph</span></a> <sup><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Shadowmorph" title="User talk:Shadowmorph"><span style="color:#131313;font-weight:bold">^"^</span></a></sup> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Apcbg#c-Shadowmorph-2009-05-08T15:50:00.000Z-Shadowmorph-2009-05-08T15:42:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:50, 8 May 2009 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Shadowmorph-2009-05-08T15:50:00.000Z-Shadowmorph-2009-05-08T15:42:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Shadowmorph-2009-05-08T15:50:00.000Z-Shadowmorph-2009-05-08T15:42:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Apcbg-2009-05-08T16:31:00.000Z-Shadowmorph-2009-05-08T15:50:00.000Z"></span>That would be perfectly okay with me. The problem is not so much the particular wording that could be done in several different ways, as the warfare attitude of some editors (exemplified in the recent debate in Talk:Greece and Talk:Macedonia) carried out with an openly proclaimed objective of getting the opponents banned. Not my idea of Wikipedianism but anyway. <a href="/wiki/User:Apcbg" title="User:Apcbg">Apcbg</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Apcbg#c-Apcbg-2009-05-08T16:31:00.000Z-Shadowmorph-2009-05-08T15:50:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:31, 8 May 2009 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Apcbg-2009-05-08T16:31:00.000Z-Shadowmorph-2009-05-08T15:50:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Apcbg-2009-05-08T16:31:00.000Z-Shadowmorph-2009-05-08T15:50:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Shadowmorph-2009-05-08T18:54:00.000Z-Apcbg-2009-05-08T16:31:00.000Z"></span>Ok I have been bold and changed the dab page accordingly with some other ideas too. <a href="/wiki/Macedonia_(disambiguation)" class="mw-redirect mw-disambig" title="Macedonia (disambiguation)">Check it out</a>. <a href="/wiki/User:Shadowmorph" title="User:Shadowmorph"><span style="color:#224222;font-weight:bold">Shadow</span><span style="color:#335533">mor</span><span style="color:#668866">ph</span></a> <sup><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Shadowmorph" title="User talk:Shadowmorph"><span style="color:#131313;font-weight:bold">^"^</span></a></sup> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Apcbg#c-Shadowmorph-2009-05-08T18:54:00.000Z-Apcbg-2009-05-08T16:31:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:54, 8 May 2009 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Shadowmorph-2009-05-08T18:54:00.000Z-Apcbg-2009-05-08T16:31:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Shadowmorph-2009-05-08T18:54:00.000Z-Apcbg-2009-05-08T16:31:00.000Z"></span></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Shadowmorph-2009-05-08T18:55:00.000Z-Apcbg-2009-05-08T16:31:00.000Z"></span>I hope that there are still some people here that believe in good faith and not immediately revert everything back. Continuing in the discussion page of the dab page. <a href="/wiki/User:Shadowmorph" title="User:Shadowmorph"><span style="color:#224222;font-weight:bold">Shadow</span><span style="color:#335533">mor</span><span style="color:#668866">ph</span></a> <sup><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Shadowmorph" title="User talk:Shadowmorph"><span style="color:#131313;font-weight:bold">^"^</span></a></sup> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Apcbg#c-Shadowmorph-2009-05-08T18:55:00.000Z-Apcbg-2009-05-08T16:31:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:55, 8 May 2009 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Shadowmorph-2009-05-08T18:55:00.000Z-Apcbg-2009-05-08T16:31:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Shadowmorph-2009-05-08T18:55:00.000Z-Apcbg-2009-05-08T16:31:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Apcbg-2009-05-08T19:42:00.000Z-Shadowmorph-2009-05-08T18:55:00.000Z"></span>Well done, thanks. <a href="/wiki/User:Apcbg" title="User:Apcbg">Apcbg</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Apcbg#c-Apcbg-2009-05-08T19:42:00.000Z-Shadowmorph-2009-05-08T18:55:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:42, 8 May 2009 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Apcbg-2009-05-08T19:42:00.000Z-Shadowmorph-2009-05-08T18:55:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Apcbg-2009-05-08T19:42:00.000Z-Shadowmorph-2009-05-08T18:55:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Macedonia_article_naming" data-mw-thread-id="h-Macedonia_article_naming-2009-06-26T21:11:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Macedonia_article_naming-2009-06-26T21:11:00.000Z"></span>Macedonia article naming<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Macedonia_article_naming-2009-06-26T21:11:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Apcbg&action=edit&section=76" title="Edit section: Macedonia article naming"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Shadowmorph-2009-06-26T21:11:00.000Z-Macedonia_article_naming"></span>Since you have in the past taken part in related discussions, this comes as a notification that the <b><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Centralized_discussion/Macedonia" title="Wikipedia:Centralized discussion/Macedonia">Centralized discussion</a></b> page set up to decide on a comprehensive naming convention about <b>Macedonia-related naming practices</b> is now inviting comments on a number of competing proposals from the community. Please register your opinions on the RfC subpages <b><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Centralized_discussion/Macedonia/main_articles" title="Wikipedia:Centralized discussion/Macedonia/main articles">1</a>, <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Centralized_discussion/Macedonia/other_page_titles" title="Wikipedia:Centralized discussion/Macedonia/other page titles">2</a>, <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Centralized_discussion/Macedonia/other_articles" title="Wikipedia:Centralized discussion/Macedonia/other articles">3</a>, <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Centralized_discussion/Macedonia/international_organizations" title="Wikipedia:Centralized discussion/Macedonia/international organizations">4</a></b> and <b><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Centralized_discussion/Macedonia/Greece-related" title="Wikipedia:Centralized discussion/Macedonia/Greece-related">5</a></b>. </p><p><a href="/wiki/User:Shadowmorph" title="User:Shadowmorph"><span style="color:#224222;font-weight:bold">Shadow</span><span style="color:#335533">mor</span><span style="color:#668866">ph</span></a> <sup><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Shadowmorph" title="User talk:Shadowmorph"><span style="color:#131313;font-weight:bold">^"^</span></a></sup> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Apcbg#c-Shadowmorph-2009-06-26T21:11:00.000Z-Macedonia_article_naming" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:11, 26 June 2009 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Shadowmorph-2009-06-26T21:11:00.000Z-Macedonia_article_naming"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Shadowmorph-2009-06-26T21:11:00.000Z-Macedonia_article_naming"></span> </p><p><br/> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Straw_Poll_on_Units_of_Measurement_in_the_Falklands_Islands_article" data-mw-thread-id="h-Straw_Poll_on_Units_of_Measurement_in_the_Falklands_Islands_article-2009-08-12T00:50:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Straw_Poll_on_Units_of_Measurement_in_the_Falklands_Islands_article-2009-08-12T00:50:00.000Z"></span>Straw Poll on Units of Measurement in the Falklands Islands article<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Straw_Poll_on_Units_of_Measurement_in_the_Falklands_Islands_article-2009-08-12T00:50:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Apcbg&action=edit&section=77" title="Edit section: Straw Poll on Units of Measurement in the Falklands Islands article"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Michael_Glass-2009-08-12T00:50:00.000Z-Straw_Poll_on_Units_of_Measurement_in_the_Falklands_Islands_article"></span>Dear Apcbg, Thanks for your contributions to the Falklands Island article. The distances to various points from the Falkland Islands have been particularly valuable. </p><p>As you know, the question of units of measurement in this article has led to acrimonious debate this year. People have taken several different positions: </p> <dl><dd>1 Metric first as a general rule.</dd></dl> <dl><dd>2 Imperial first as a general rule.</dd></dl> <dl><dd>3 Imperial first as a general rule, except for temperatures in Celsius.</dd></dl> <dl><dd>4 Follow the source of the information as a general rule.</dd></dl> <p>I myself favour the metric system, but would be willing to follow the sources of information, many of which are metric only or metric first. Also, if there was a clear consensus for one of the other positions, I would accept it. However, at the moment there is no clear evidence of a consensus. </p><p>As one who has made such a good contribution to this article your contribution to the straw poll and the discussion could be valuable. [<a class="external autonumber" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Falkland_Islands#Units_of_Measurement:_What_is_the_consensus.3F">[9]</a>] </p><p>Best wishes, </p><p><a href="/wiki/User:Michael_Glass" title="User:Michael Glass">Michael Glass</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Michael_Glass" title="User talk:Michael Glass">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Apcbg#c-Michael_Glass-2009-08-12T00:50:00.000Z-Straw_Poll_on_Units_of_Measurement_in_the_Falklands_Islands_article" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:50, 12 August 2009 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Michael_Glass-2009-08-12T00:50:00.000Z-Straw_Poll_on_Units_of_Measurement_in_the_Falklands_Islands_article"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Michael_Glass-2009-08-12T00:50:00.000Z-Straw_Poll_on_Units_of_Measurement_in_the_Falklands_Islands_article"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="The_Original_Barnstar" data-mw-thread-id="h-The_Original_Barnstar-2009-09-23T09:13:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-The_Original_Barnstar-2009-09-23T09:13:00.000Z"></span>The Original Barnstar<span data-mw-comment-end="h-The_Original_Barnstar-2009-09-23T09:13:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Apcbg&action=edit&section=78" title="Edit section: The Original Barnstar"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Jingiby-2009-09-23T09:13:00.000Z-The_Original_Barnstar"></span>Thank you very much for this award, Apcbg! <a href="/wiki/User:Jingiby" title="User:Jingiby">Jingby</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Jingiby" title="User talk:Jingiby">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Apcbg#c-Jingiby-2009-09-23T09:13:00.000Z-The_Original_Barnstar" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:13, 23 September 2009 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Jingiby-2009-09-23T09:13:00.000Z-The_Original_Barnstar"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Jingiby-2009-09-23T09:13:00.000Z-The_Original_Barnstar"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Apcbg-2009-09-23T10:14:00.000Z-Jingiby-2009-09-23T09:13:00.000Z"></span>Well deserved, indeed! <a href="/wiki/User:Apcbg" title="User:Apcbg">Apcbg</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Apcbg#c-Apcbg-2009-09-23T10:14:00.000Z-Jingiby-2009-09-23T09:13:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:14, 23 September 2009 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Apcbg-2009-09-23T10:14:00.000Z-Jingiby-2009-09-23T09:13:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Apcbg-2009-09-23T10:14:00.000Z-Jingiby-2009-09-23T09:13:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Language_help" data-mw-thread-id="h-Language_help-2009-10-05T04:15:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Language_help-2009-10-05T04:15:00.000Z"></span>Language help<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Language_help-2009-10-05T04:15:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Apcbg&action=edit&section=79" title="Edit section: Language help"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Marc_Kupper-2009-10-05T04:15:00.000Z-Language_help"></span>A Macedonian citizen has created an article, presumably about himself. It's up for deletion at <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Igor_Krajcev" title="Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Igor Krajcev">Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Igor Krajcev</a>. If you know the language could you please take a look at <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="http://www.veles.gov.mk/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=876">this</a> to see if the award given is a) "notable" and b) that Igor Krajcev won the claimed award. Thanks! You are welcome to participate in the deletion discussion too. </p><p>I found your page via a search for "Macedonian" in the user space and you came up as a recently active editor who seems likely to be able to at least read the cited reference and understand the Wikipedia sources/citations stuff. --<a href="/wiki/User:Marc_Kupper" title="User:Marc Kupper">Marc Kupper</a>|<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Marc_Kupper" title="User talk:Marc Kupper">talk</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Apcbg#c-Marc_Kupper-2009-10-05T04:15:00.000Z-Language_help" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">04:15, 5 October 2009 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Marc_Kupper-2009-10-05T04:15:00.000Z-Language_help"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Marc_Kupper-2009-10-05T04:15:00.000Z-Language_help"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Apcbg-2009-10-05T08:47:00.000Z-Marc_Kupper-2009-10-05T04:15:00.000Z"></span>Done. Best, <a href="/wiki/User:Apcbg" title="User:Apcbg">Apcbg</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Apcbg#c-Apcbg-2009-10-05T08:47:00.000Z-Marc_Kupper-2009-10-05T04:15:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">08:47, 5 October 2009 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Apcbg-2009-10-05T08:47:00.000Z-Marc_Kupper-2009-10-05T04:15:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Apcbg-2009-10-05T08:47:00.000Z-Marc_Kupper-2009-10-05T04:15:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Marc_Kupper-2009-10-06T06:34:00.000Z-Apcbg-2009-10-05T08:47:00.000Z"></span>Thank you very much. I added a couple of questions to the AfD, mainly focused on the award as that appears to be the only qualifying point notability. --<a href="/wiki/User:Marc_Kupper" title="User:Marc Kupper">Marc Kupper</a>|<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Marc_Kupper" title="User talk:Marc Kupper">talk</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Apcbg#c-Marc_Kupper-2009-10-06T06:34:00.000Z-Apcbg-2009-10-05T08:47:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">06:34, 6 October 2009 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Marc_Kupper-2009-10-06T06:34:00.000Z-Apcbg-2009-10-05T08:47:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Marc_Kupper-2009-10-06T06:34:00.000Z-Apcbg-2009-10-05T08:47:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Marc_Kupper-2009-10-11T09:00:00.000Z-Language_help"></span>Thank you for the attention you are putting into the AFD. I have one off-topic question which is about the word "роднокрајни." I'm guessing it means "native to city or town" but why is it used so often with authors, writers, publishers, etc. and less often in other contexts? --<a href="/wiki/User:Marc_Kupper" title="User:Marc Kupper">Marc Kupper</a>|<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Marc_Kupper" title="User talk:Marc Kupper">talk</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Apcbg#c-Marc_Kupper-2009-10-11T09:00:00.000Z-Language_help" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:00, 11 October 2009 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Marc_Kupper-2009-10-11T09:00:00.000Z-Language_help"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Marc_Kupper-2009-10-11T09:00:00.000Z-Language_help"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Apcbg-2009-10-11T22:34:00.000Z-Marc_Kupper-2009-10-11T09:00:00.000Z"></span>Indeed, the adjective "роднокрајни" (pl.), and "роднокраен," "роднокрајна," "роднокрајно" (sing.) means "of a birth place (region)." Probably, because of that specific nuance, it is most often used for arts and literature people and objects but also associations, activities, publications, collections, topics etc. and, as you say, particularly numerous occasions for such usage would seem to arise in the case of writers. <a href="/wiki/User:Apcbg" title="User:Apcbg">Apcbg</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Apcbg#c-Apcbg-2009-10-11T22:34:00.000Z-Marc_Kupper-2009-10-11T09:00:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:34, 11 October 2009 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Apcbg-2009-10-11T22:34:00.000Z-Marc_Kupper-2009-10-11T09:00:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Apcbg-2009-10-11T22:34:00.000Z-Marc_Kupper-2009-10-11T09:00:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Marc_Kupper-2009-10-12T09:20:00.000Z-Apcbg-2009-10-11T22:34:00.000Z"></span>Thank you. I like learning stuff like this. --<a href="/wiki/User:Marc_Kupper" title="User:Marc Kupper">Marc Kupper</a>|<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Marc_Kupper" title="User talk:Marc Kupper">talk</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Apcbg#c-Marc_Kupper-2009-10-12T09:20:00.000Z-Apcbg-2009-10-11T22:34:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:20, 12 October 2009 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Marc_Kupper-2009-10-12T09:20:00.000Z-Apcbg-2009-10-11T22:34:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Marc_Kupper-2009-10-12T09:20:00.000Z-Apcbg-2009-10-11T22:34:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Apcbg-2009-10-12T18:02:00.000Z-Marc_Kupper-2009-10-12T09:20:00.000Z"></span>You are welcome. <a href="/wiki/User:Apcbg" title="User:Apcbg">Apcbg</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Apcbg#c-Apcbg-2009-10-12T18:02:00.000Z-Marc_Kupper-2009-10-12T09:20:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:02, 12 October 2009 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Apcbg-2009-10-12T18:02:00.000Z-Marc_Kupper-2009-10-12T09:20:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Apcbg-2009-10-12T18:02:00.000Z-Marc_Kupper-2009-10-12T09:20:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Atanasoff" data-mw-thread-id="h-Atanasoff-2009-10-05T06:06:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Atanasoff-2009-10-05T06:06:00.000Z"></span>Atanasoff<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Atanasoff-2009-10-05T06:06:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Apcbg&action=edit&section=80" title="Edit section: Atanasoff"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Robert_K_S-2009-10-05T06:06:00.000Z-Atanasoff"></span>The lead has been stable for quite some time. If you and Monshuai are just going to go back to edit warring on it, I'm going to request that the article be locked. We're not going to have Bulgarian boosterism in the lead. It doesn't benefit the article. <a href="/wiki/User:Robert_K_S" title="User:Robert K S">Robert K S</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Robert_K_S" title="User talk:Robert K S">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Apcbg#c-Robert_K_S-2009-10-05T06:06:00.000Z-Atanasoff" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">06:06, 5 October 2009 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Robert_K_S-2009-10-05T06:06:00.000Z-Atanasoff"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Robert_K_S-2009-10-05T06:06:00.000Z-Atanasoff"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Apcbg-2009-10-05T08:59:00.000Z-Robert_K_S-2009-10-05T06:06:00.000Z"></span>You reverted my update of a source link (later fixed) apparently without checking what that was. As for Atanasoff, my opinion is that his nationality background ought to be presented no differently than that of numerous Italian Americans, Chinese Americans etc. etc., whether the common place for that be in the lead or elsewhere in the article. As the current version goes, while it reports that his father was Bulgarian, the term <a href="/wiki/Bulgarian_American" class="mw-redirect" title="Bulgarian American">Bulgarian American</a> occurs nowhere in the article itself, which does not seem right to me. <a href="/wiki/User:Apcbg" title="User:Apcbg">Apcbg</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Apcbg#c-Apcbg-2009-10-05T08:59:00.000Z-Robert_K_S-2009-10-05T06:06:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">08:59, 5 October 2009 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Apcbg-2009-10-05T08:59:00.000Z-Robert_K_S-2009-10-05T06:06:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Apcbg-2009-10-05T08:59:00.000Z-Robert_K_S-2009-10-05T06:06:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Monshuai-2009-10-05T13:19:00.000Z-Apcbg-2009-10-05T08:59:00.000Z"></span>Zdravei, imash li vazmojnost da organizirash Bulgarskoto obshtestvo v Wikipedia za da si zashtitavame nashite interesi? Koi sa Bulgarskite administratori? Triabva da dokajem che na drugi po goliami natsii im se razreshava da pishat Italian-American, Chinese-American, Japanese-American etc makar i che mnogo ot tezi hora imat ne poveche vruska sus durjavite na pradedite im ot kolkoto Atanasov. Dori ima mnogo dozakaltestva che poradi natsionalnite nagradi, institutsii v negovo ime i izvestnosta na tozi chovek v Bulgaria, toi ima po goliama vruska s neia ot kolkoto naprimer niakoi kato Michelle Kwan ili Nancy Pelosi imat sus Kitai i Italia. Za tezi natsii mnogo editors i administratori sa se saglasili che imat pravo da predstavat informatsia po tozi nachin dokato takiva kato Robert K S ne se interesuvat ot tova. Te naprimer ne "popravat" tezi stotitsi drugi statii. Zashto? Tova li e printsipa na Wikipedia da se izpolzvat razlichni pravila za vsiaka natsia? Da se razreshavat niakoi neshta za niakoi natsii i drugi za drugi natsii? Chesno li e da budat predstaveni goliamite durjavi v dobra svetlina za razlika ot malkite koito niamat choveshkite resursi da se boriat za svoite prava? Pod pravo imam predvid prosto da budem tretirane kakto i drugite. Printsipi vinagi sushtestvuvat v otnositelsnost na kak se izpolzvat v razlichni konkretni i abstraktni sferi na choveshkoto sushtestvuvanie. Ako shte se promeniat informatsii za Atanasov koito ne otgovariat na mnojestovoto statii v Wikipedia, togava triabva sushtite hora da budat nakari da promeniat informatisata za hiliadi drugi statii koito vkluchvat stotitsi frugi natsii. Chisto i prosto! Kakto i da e, triabva mnogo poveche hora koito podurjat nashiat perspektiv da budat vklucheni v tazi virtualna "bitka" za obektivnost i spravedlivost.--<a href="/wiki/User:Monshuai" title="User:Monshuai">Monshuai</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Monshuai" title="User talk:Monshuai">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Apcbg#c-Monshuai-2009-10-05T13:19:00.000Z-Apcbg-2009-10-05T08:59:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:19, 5 October 2009 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Monshuai-2009-10-05T13:19:00.000Z-Apcbg-2009-10-05T08:59:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Monshuai-2009-10-05T13:19:00.000Z-Apcbg-2009-10-05T08:59:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Apcbg-2009-10-05T17:18:00.000Z-Monshuai-2009-10-05T13:19:00.000Z"></span>The edit summary <i>"... a relation to the said country, wheres there exists none other than his parents' origin."</i> submitted by the editor who remuved the Bulgarian name form is patently untrue, probably he didn't care to consult the paper itself and especially its sources.</dd> <dd>Otherwise, I do not believe in edit warring; it's time wasting, and generates totally unnecessary negative attitudes at the expense of positive contribution and collaboration. Maybe some further discussion on this particular issue on the article's talk page would be helpful. Best, <a href="/wiki/User:Apcbg" title="User:Apcbg">Apcbg</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Apcbg#c-Apcbg-2009-10-05T17:18:00.000Z-Monshuai-2009-10-05T13:19:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:18, 5 October 2009 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Apcbg-2009-10-05T17:18:00.000Z-Monshuai-2009-10-05T13:19:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Apcbg-2009-10-05T17:18:00.000Z-Monshuai-2009-10-05T13:19:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Robert_K_S-2009-10-05T23:05:00.000Z-Atanasoff"></span>JVA is added to the category <a href="/wiki/Category:Bulgarian_Americans" title="Category:Bulgarian Americans">Category:Bulgarian_Americans</a> and I believe that is sufficient. His ethnicity is not germane to his notability, and so it should not be emphasized in the lead. The notice that he was born to a Bulgarian immigrant is probably a little boosterish as well, appearing in the lead as it does. Is it any more relevant to his rise as a physicist than stating that he was born to an immigrant, or stating that he was a second-generation American? Monshuai's claim that Bulgaria assisted in <i><a href="/wiki/Honeywell_v._Sperry_Rand" class="mw-redirect" title="Honeywell v. Sperry Rand">Honeywell v. Sperry Rand</a></i> is unsupported and, pardon the pun, patently false. <a href="/wiki/User:Robert_K_S" title="User:Robert K S">Robert K S</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Robert_K_S" title="User talk:Robert K S">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Apcbg#c-Robert_K_S-2009-10-05T23:05:00.000Z-Atanasoff" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:05, 5 October 2009 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Robert_K_S-2009-10-05T23:05:00.000Z-Atanasoff"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Robert_K_S-2009-10-05T23:05:00.000Z-Atanasoff"></span> </p> <dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Apcbg-2009-10-06T06:19:00.000Z-Robert_K_S-2009-10-05T23:05:00.000Z"></span>The categories are not part of the article's text. As for his ethnicity not being germane to his notability, the article is about the person not about the comnputer for which he became famous; naturally, there are many other aspects of his biography presented in the article, and ethnicity is one of them. <a href="/wiki/User:Apcbg" title="User:Apcbg">Apcbg</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Apcbg#c-Apcbg-2009-10-06T06:19:00.000Z-Robert_K_S-2009-10-05T23:05:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">06:19, 6 October 2009 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Apcbg-2009-10-06T06:19:00.000Z-Robert_K_S-2009-10-05T23:05:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Apcbg-2009-10-06T06:19:00.000Z-Robert_K_S-2009-10-05T23:05:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Monshuai-2009-10-06T02:14:00.000Z-Robert_K_S-2009-10-05T23:05:00.000Z"></span>Sega e vreme da se vkluchish v diskusiata za Atanasovskata statia. Ima edna administratorka koyato e obektivna i ne misli che Bulgarian-American e nekorektno predstaviane na lichnostamu. Kaji si i ti dumata za da ne ostana edinstveniat na fronta v moment kogato imame malko predimstvo.--<a href="/wiki/User:Monshuai" title="User:Monshuai">Monshuai</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Monshuai" title="User talk:Monshuai">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Apcbg#c-Monshuai-2009-10-06T02:14:00.000Z-Robert_K_S-2009-10-05T23:05:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">02:14, 6 October 2009 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Monshuai-2009-10-06T02:14:00.000Z-Robert_K_S-2009-10-05T23:05:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Monshuai-2009-10-06T02:14:00.000Z-Robert_K_S-2009-10-05T23:05:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Antarctic_Place-names_Commission" data-mw-thread-id="h-Antarctic_Place-names_Commission-2009-10-13T18:11:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Antarctic_Place-names_Commission-2009-10-13T18:11:00.000Z"></span><a href="/wiki/Antarctic_Place-names_Commission" title="Antarctic Place-names Commission">Antarctic Place-names Commission</a><span data-mw-comment-end="h-Antarctic_Place-names_Commission-2009-10-13T18:11:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Apcbg&action=edit&section=81" title="Edit section: Antarctic Place-names Commission"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Robert_K_S-2009-10-13T18:11:00.000Z-Antarctic_Place-names_Commission"></span>Can you please explain the <a href="/wiki/Antarctic_Place-names_Commission" title="Antarctic Place-names Commission">Antarctic Place-names Commission</a>? Are you affiliated with this organization? Does this organization have any international standing? Are the names it assigns recognized outside of Bulgaria? Do they appear on any maps or charts published for international use? <a href="/wiki/User:Robert_K_S" title="User:Robert K S">Robert K S</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Robert_K_S" title="User talk:Robert K S">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Apcbg#c-Robert_K_S-2009-10-13T18:11:00.000Z-Antarctic_Place-names_Commission" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:11, 13 October 2009 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Robert_K_S-2009-10-13T18:11:00.000Z-Antarctic_Place-names_Commission"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Robert_K_S-2009-10-13T18:11:00.000Z-Antarctic_Place-names_Commission"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Apcbg-2009-10-13T20:16:00.000Z-Robert_K_S-2009-10-13T18:11:00.000Z"></span>Sorry, it's my principle to discuss topics not personal issues here. As for the Antarctic Place-names Commission, should you care to consult its article you would find the answers to your questions. In particular, the names given by Bulgaria are incorporated in the authoritative international gazetteer of Antarctic names (<a href="/wiki/Composite_Gazetteer_of_Antarctica" title="Composite Gazetteer of Antarctica">CGA</a>) – same like the names given by other Antarctic nations. <a href="/wiki/User:Apcbg" title="User:Apcbg">Apcbg</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Apcbg#c-Apcbg-2009-10-13T20:16:00.000Z-Robert_K_S-2009-10-13T18:11:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:16, 13 October 2009 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Apcbg-2009-10-13T20:16:00.000Z-Robert_K_S-2009-10-13T18:11:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Apcbg-2009-10-13T20:16:00.000Z-Robert_K_S-2009-10-13T18:11:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Merry_Christmas" data-mw-thread-id="h-Merry_Christmas-2009-12-22T23:23:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Merry_Christmas-2009-12-22T23:23:00.000Z"></span>Merry Christmas<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Merry_Christmas-2009-12-22T23:23:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Apcbg&action=edit&section=82" title="Edit section: Merry Christmas"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Justin_A_Kuntz-2009-12-22T23:23:00.000Z-Merry_Christmas"></span>Seasons greetings, Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year. <i><a href="/wiki/User:Justin_A_Kuntz" title="User:Justin A Kuntz">Justin</a></i> <small><i><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Justin_A_Kuntz" title="User talk:Justin A Kuntz">talk</a></i></small> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Apcbg#c-Justin_A_Kuntz-2009-12-22T23:23:00.000Z-Merry_Christmas" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:23, 22 December 2009 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Justin_A_Kuntz-2009-12-22T23:23:00.000Z-Merry_Christmas"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Justin_A_Kuntz-2009-12-22T23:23:00.000Z-Merry_Christmas"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Christmas" data-mw-thread-id="h-Christmas-2009-12-23T10:23:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Christmas-2009-12-23T10:23:00.000Z"></span>Christmas<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Christmas-2009-12-23T10:23:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Apcbg&action=edit&section=83" title="Edit section: Christmas"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Narson-2009-12-23T10:23:00.000Z-Christmas"></span>Happy Christmas Lyubomir. Hopefully we will have more occassion to run into one another on wiki next year! I've been rather busy entering the world of politics, it has dented my wiki time even more than my studies has. <span style="font-famiy: verdana;"> --<a href="/wiki/User:Narson" title="User:Narson"><span style="color:#1100;"><b>Narson</b></span></a> ~ <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Narson" title="User talk:Narson"><span style="color:#900;"><i>Talk</i></span></a> • </span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Apcbg#c-Narson-2009-12-23T10:23:00.000Z-Christmas" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:23, 23 December 2009 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Narson-2009-12-23T10:23:00.000Z-Christmas"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Narson-2009-12-23T10:23:00.000Z-Christmas"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Deletion_Review" data-mw-thread-id="h-Deletion_Review-2010-01-10T23:52:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Deletion_Review-2010-01-10T23:52:00.000Z"></span>Deletion Review<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Deletion_Review-2010-01-10T23:52:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Apcbg&action=edit&section=84" title="Edit section: Deletion Review"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Justin_A_Kuntz-2010-01-10T23:52:00.000Z-Deletion_Review"></span>A deletion review that you may have an interest in: <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Files_for_deletion/2010_January_8#File:HMS_Ambuscade_(F172).jpg" title="Wikipedia:Files for deletion/2010 January 8">Wikipedia:Files for deletion/2010 January 8#File:HMS Ambuscade (F172).jpg</a>. <i><a href="/wiki/User:Justin_A_Kuntz" title="User:Justin A Kuntz">Justin</a></i> <small><i><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Justin_A_Kuntz" title="User talk:Justin A Kuntz">talk</a></i></small> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Apcbg#c-Justin_A_Kuntz-2010-01-10T23:52:00.000Z-Deletion_Review" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:52, 10 January 2010 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Justin_A_Kuntz-2010-01-10T23:52:00.000Z-Deletion_Review"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Justin_A_Kuntz-2010-01-10T23:52:00.000Z-Deletion_Review"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="NowCommons:_File:Arkutino.jpg" data-mw-thread-id="h-NowCommons:_File:Arkutino.jpg-2010-01-17T21:24:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-NowCommons:_File:Arkutino.jpg-2010-01-17T21:24:00.000Z"></span>NowCommons: File:Arkutino.jpg<span data-mw-comment-end="h-NowCommons:_File:Arkutino.jpg-2010-01-17T21:24:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Apcbg&action=edit&section=85" title="Edit section: NowCommons: File:Arkutino.jpg"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><a href="/wiki/File:Arkutino.jpg" title="File:Arkutino.jpg"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Erwin85Bot-2010-01-17T21:24:00.000Z-NowCommons:_File:Arkutino.jpg"></span>File:Arkutino.jpg</a> is now available on <a href="/wiki/Wikimedia_Commons" title="Wikimedia Commons">Wikimedia Commons</a> as <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Arkutino_Beach.jpg" class="extiw" title="commons:File:Arkutino Beach.jpg">Commons:File:Arkutino Beach.jpg</a>. This is a repository of free media that can be used on all Wikimedia wikis. The image will be deleted from Wikipedia, but this doesn't mean it can't be used anymore. You can embed an image uploaded to Commons like you would an image uploaded to Wikipedia, in this case: [[File:Arkutino Beach.jpg]]. Note that this is an automated message to inform you about the move. This bot did not copy the image itself. --<a href="/wiki/User:Erwin85Bot" title="User:Erwin85Bot">Erwin85Bot</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Erwin85Bot" class="mw-redirect" title="User talk:Erwin85Bot">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Apcbg#c-Erwin85Bot-2010-01-17T21:24:00.000Z-NowCommons:_File:Arkutino.jpg" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:24, 17 January 2010 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Erwin85Bot-2010-01-17T21:24:00.000Z-NowCommons:_File:Arkutino.jpg"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Erwin85Bot-2010-01-17T21:24:00.000Z-NowCommons:_File:Arkutino.jpg"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="New_category_Category:Sealers" data-mw-thread-id="h-New_category_Category:Sealers-2010-01-20T04:17:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-New_category_Category:Sealers-2010-01-20T04:17:00.000Z"></span>New category <a href="/wiki/Category:Sealers" title="Category:Sealers">Category:Sealers</a><span data-mw-comment-end="h-New_category_Category:Sealers-2010-01-20T04:17:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Apcbg&action=edit&section=86" title="Edit section: New category Category:Sealers"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-MatthewVanitas-2010-01-20T04:17:00.000Z-New_category_Category:Sealers"></span>Greetings, an article to which you've conrtibuted has been added to the new <a href="/wiki/Category:Sealers" title="Category:Sealers">Category:Sealers</a>. Please feel free to help develop this new category. <a href="/wiki/User:MatthewVanitas" title="User:MatthewVanitas">MatthewVanitas</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:MatthewVanitas" title="User talk:MatthewVanitas">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Apcbg#c-MatthewVanitas-2010-01-20T04:17:00.000Z-New_category_Category:Sealers" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">04:17, 20 January 2010 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-MatthewVanitas-2010-01-20T04:17:00.000Z-New_category_Category:Sealers"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-MatthewVanitas-2010-01-20T04:17:00.000Z-New_category_Category:Sealers"></span> </p><p><br/> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Gibraltar_/_San_Roque" data-mw-thread-id="h-Gibraltar_/_San_Roque-2010-01-31T15:12:00.000Z"><span id="Gibraltar_.2F_San_Roque"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Gibraltar_/_San_Roque-2010-01-31T15:12:00.000Z"></span>Gibraltar / San Roque<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Gibraltar_/_San_Roque-2010-01-31T15:12:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Apcbg&action=edit&section=87" title="Edit section: Gibraltar / San Roque"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Gibnews-2010-01-31T15:12:00.000Z-Gibraltar_/_San_Roque"></span>I have amended the wording slightly of the sentence describing San Roque, please alter your vote accordingly if you do not agree with the revised edition. It won't be altered again, but on reflection there is no evidence for the word majority. --<a href="/wiki/User:Gibnews" title="User:Gibnews">Gibnews</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Gibnews" title="User talk:Gibnews">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Apcbg#c-Gibnews-2010-01-31T15:12:00.000Z-Gibraltar_/_San_Roque" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:12, 31 January 2010 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Gibnews-2010-01-31T15:12:00.000Z-Gibraltar_/_San_Roque"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Gibnews-2010-01-31T15:12:00.000Z-Gibraltar_/_San_Roque"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="First_Bulgarian_Empire" data-mw-thread-id="h-First_Bulgarian_Empire-2010-02-07T20:10:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-First_Bulgarian_Empire-2010-02-07T20:10:00.000Z"></span>First Bulgarian Empire<span data-mw-comment-end="h-First_Bulgarian_Empire-2010-02-07T20:10:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Apcbg&action=edit&section=88" title="Edit section: First Bulgarian Empire"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Apcbg-2010-02-07T20:10:00.000Z-First_Bulgarian_Empire"></span>Zdravei... Vijdam che se vkluchi v diskusiata za Purva Bulgarska Durjava. Struva mi se che tvoya komentar e podhodiasht za diskusiata v angliiskata statia za Bulgaria. Ako imash vreme vij kakuv spor sum imal tam. Mersi. (Izviniavam se che ne pisha na Kirilitsa.) </p> <dl><dd>The intro to the Bulgaria article seems rather clumsy and poor style too (see for comparison the France article -- the first one I opened arbitrarily); I have no wording proposal though. <a href="/wiki/User:Apcbg" title="User:Apcbg">Apcbg</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Apcbg#c-Apcbg-2010-02-07T20:10:00.000Z-First_Bulgarian_Empire" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:10, 7 February 2010 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Apcbg-2010-02-07T20:10:00.000Z-First_Bulgarian_Empire"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Apcbg-2010-02-07T20:10:00.000Z-First_Bulgarian_Empire"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="File:Blue-Beach.JPG" data-mw-thread-id="h-File:Blue-Beach.JPG-2010-03-14T13:27:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-File:Blue-Beach.JPG-2010-03-14T13:27:00.000Z"></span><a href="/wiki/File:Blue-Beach.JPG" title="File:Blue-Beach.JPG">File:Blue-Beach.JPG</a><span data-mw-comment-end="h-File:Blue-Beach.JPG-2010-03-14T13:27:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Apcbg&action=edit&section=89" title="Edit section: File:Blue-Beach.JPG"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Jor70-2010-03-14T13:27:00.000Z-File:Blue-Beach.JPG"></span>What a nice picture!, thanks for sharing. I always thought there were taller hills around --<a href="/wiki/User:Jor70" title="User:Jor70">Jor70</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Jor70" title="User talk:Jor70">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Apcbg#c-Jor70-2010-03-14T13:27:00.000Z-File:Blue-Beach.JPG" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:27, 14 March 2010 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Jor70-2010-03-14T13:27:00.000Z-File:Blue-Beach.JPG"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Jor70-2010-03-14T13:27:00.000Z-File:Blue-Beach.JPG"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Apcbg-2010-03-15T09:55:00.000Z-Jor70-2010-03-14T13:27:00.000Z"></span>You are welcome. It's a typical, gently rolling Falklands landscape. The 'taller hills', actually the tallest, are the Wickham Heights starting some 15 km away (ahead and to the left of the photo's view direction), but even those are barely rising to 700 m. A truly 'tall' and steep mountainous terrain could be found either to the west in the Patagonian and Fuegian Andes, or to the east, on South Georgia. Possibly might have something to do with the fact that originally the Falklands used to be adjoined to Africa (not America or Antarctica). <a href="/wiki/User:Apcbg" title="User:Apcbg">Apcbg</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Apcbg#c-Apcbg-2010-03-15T09:55:00.000Z-Jor70-2010-03-14T13:27:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:55, 15 March 2010 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Apcbg-2010-03-15T09:55:00.000Z-Jor70-2010-03-14T13:27:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Apcbg-2010-03-15T09:55:00.000Z-Jor70-2010-03-14T13:27:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="RE:_Yesilköy" data-mw-thread-id="h-RE:_Yesilköy-2010-05-03T08:21:00.000Z"><span id="RE:_Yesilk.C3.B6y"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-RE:_Yesilköy-2010-05-03T08:21:00.000Z"></span>RE: Yesilköy<span data-mw-comment-end="h-RE:_Yesilköy-2010-05-03T08:21:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Apcbg&action=edit&section=90" title="Edit section: RE: Yesilköy"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Alessandro57-2010-05-03T08:21:00.000Z-RE:_Yesilköy"></span>Hallo Acpbg, </p><p>thanks for answering to my revert! I wrote the voice, so I am trying always to do some housekeeping on it... :-) </p><p>As a matter of fact, I think there here there are two problems: </p> <ul><li>according to what you wrote, the name of the peak refers to the Treaty, not to the village; so it should go under the <a href="/wiki/Treaty_of_San_Stefano" title="Treaty of San Stefano">Treaty of San Stefano</a> voice.</li></ul> <ul><li>here I answer with an example: according to your philosophy, in the voice <a href="/wiki/Rome" title="Rome">Rome</a> there should be a list of the (about) 53 settlements, mountains, and so on, which take their name from the eternal city. This makes no sense, but make sense to write on each single voice about its etymology.</li></ul> <p>Last but not least, the information that you write in the article is out of context in the place where you wrote it. </p><p>Do you see my reasons now? </p><p>Kindest regards, <a href="/wiki/User:Alessandro57" title="User:Alessandro57">Alex2006</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Alessandro57" title="User talk:Alessandro57">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Apcbg#c-Alessandro57-2010-05-03T08:21:00.000Z-RE:_Yesilköy" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">08:21, 3 May 2010 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Alessandro57-2010-05-03T08:21:00.000Z-RE:_Yesilköy"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Alessandro57-2010-05-03T08:21:00.000Z-RE:_Yesilköy"></span> </p> <dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Alessandro57-2010-05-03T09:00:00.000Z-Alessandro57-2010-05-03T08:21:00.000Z"></span>OK! Then let's find a place for this info... :-) But have you been in Antarctica? Cheers, <a href="/wiki/User:Alessandro57" title="User:Alessandro57">Alex2006</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Alessandro57" title="User talk:Alessandro57">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Apcbg#c-Alessandro57-2010-05-03T09:00:00.000Z-Alessandro57-2010-05-03T08:21:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:00, 3 May 2010 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Alessandro57-2010-05-03T09:00:00.000Z-Alessandro57-2010-05-03T08:21:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Alessandro57-2010-05-03T09:00:00.000Z-Alessandro57-2010-05-03T08:21:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Alessandro57-2010-05-03T11:31:00.000Z-Alessandro57-2010-05-03T09:00:00.000Z"></span>The using of Miscellaneous is discouraged, but we make an exception here... :-) But why did a mountain get the name of a treaty? Is there a special rule in Antarctica (something like female names for mountains in Venus)? Cheers, <a href="/wiki/User:Alessandro57" title="User:Alessandro57">Alex2006</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Alessandro57" title="User talk:Alessandro57">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Apcbg#c-Alessandro57-2010-05-03T11:31:00.000Z-Alessandro57-2010-05-03T09:00:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:31, 3 May 2010 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Alessandro57-2010-05-03T11:31:00.000Z-Alessandro57-2010-05-03T09:00:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Alessandro57-2010-05-03T11:31:00.000Z-Alessandro57-2010-05-03T09:00:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Alessandro57-2010-05-03T13:08:00.000Z-Alessandro57-2010-05-03T11:31:00.000Z"></span>Thanks! I known, the Italian mission in Antarctica was great! Unfortunately, they have more and more financing problem... :-( I suppose that we are next on the list after Greece and Portugal. Cheers, <a href="/wiki/User:Alessandro57" title="User:Alessandro57">Alex2006</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Alessandro57" title="User talk:Alessandro57">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Apcbg#c-Alessandro57-2010-05-03T13:08:00.000Z-Alessandro57-2010-05-03T11:31:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:08, 3 May 2010 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Alessandro57-2010-05-03T13:08:00.000Z-Alessandro57-2010-05-03T11:31:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Alessandro57-2010-05-03T13:08:00.000Z-Alessandro57-2010-05-03T11:31:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Alessandro57-2010-05-06T05:20:00.000Z-Alessandro57-2010-05-03T13:08:00.000Z"></span>Well, actually also San Stefano is an italian name :-) But why didn't they give names in English? I f each land uses its own language, the Geography of Antarctica should be a mess...Did you use for your articles the description on this web site? Is it allowed to do that? Cheers, <a href="/wiki/User:Alessandro57" title="User:Alessandro57">Alex2006</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Alessandro57" title="User talk:Alessandro57">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Apcbg#c-Alessandro57-2010-05-06T05:20:00.000Z-Alessandro57-2010-05-03T13:08:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">05:20, 6 May 2010 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Alessandro57-2010-05-06T05:20:00.000Z-Alessandro57-2010-05-03T13:08:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Alessandro57-2010-05-06T05:20:00.000Z-Alessandro57-2010-05-03T13:08:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="New_publication" data-mw-thread-id="h-New_publication-2010-06-11T18:01:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-New_publication-2010-06-11T18:01:00.000Z"></span>New publication<span data-mw-comment-end="h-New_publication-2010-06-11T18:01:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Apcbg&action=edit&section=91" title="Edit section: New publication"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Narson-2010-06-11T18:01:00.000Z-New_publication"></span>You need to stop messing with your language, people will start to chase you with pitchforks ;) On a more serious note, I am probably going to have a poke at the Lyubomir article (ugh. Third person conversations) and see if I can't get it going somewhere again. Oh, and did you see we got a Green MP over here? Obviously I'd rather my party won, but Caroline Lucas appears to be a fine politician. <span style="font-family: helvetica;"> --<a href="/wiki/User:Narson" title="User:Narson"><span style="color:#1100;"><b>Narson</b></span></a> ~ <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Narson" title="User talk:Narson"><span style="color:#900;"><i>Talk</i></span></a> • </span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Apcbg#c-Narson-2010-06-11T18:01:00.000Z-New_publication" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:01, 11 June 2010 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Narson-2010-06-11T18:01:00.000Z-New_publication"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Narson-2010-06-11T18:01:00.000Z-New_publication"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Apcbg-2010-06-12T08:53:00.000Z-Narson-2010-06-11T18:01:00.000Z"></span>Expectedly so, no good deed remains unpunished :-) Caroline Lucas' is a remarkable success indeed, congratulations. Hope they focus more on environmental issues rather than foreign policy that apparently is not their strong side. Best, <a href="/wiki/User:Apcbg" title="User:Apcbg">Apcbg</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Apcbg#c-Apcbg-2010-06-12T08:53:00.000Z-Narson-2010-06-11T18:01:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">08:53, 12 June 2010 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Apcbg-2010-06-12T08:53:00.000Z-Narson-2010-06-11T18:01:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Apcbg-2010-06-12T08:53:00.000Z-Narson-2010-06-11T18:01:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Narson-2010-06-12T21:29:00.000Z-Apcbg-2010-06-12T08:53:00.000Z"></span>Well, their economic policy was no better. Their manifesto was rather than to cut spending or to hold spending they were pledging to increase spending. They at times can be a bit on the communist side of socialist. But I might be a bit biased, as a Lib Dem electon agent ;) <span style="font-family: helvetica;"> --<a href="/wiki/User:Narson" title="User:Narson"><span style="color:#1100;"><b>Narson</b></span></a> ~ <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Narson" title="User talk:Narson"><span style="color:#900;"><i>Talk</i></span></a> • </span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Apcbg#c-Narson-2010-06-12T21:29:00.000Z-Apcbg-2010-06-12T08:53:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:29, 12 June 2010 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Narson-2010-06-12T21:29:00.000Z-Apcbg-2010-06-12T08:53:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Narson-2010-06-12T21:29:00.000Z-Apcbg-2010-06-12T08:53:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Apcbg-2010-06-13T15:02:00.000Z-Narson-2010-06-12T21:29:00.000Z"></span>I agree about the economic policies. In any case, theirs is a long way to a possible participation in government (like e.g. the German Greens) when one goes beyond mere opposition mentality to get real and take responsibility. <a href="/wiki/User:Apcbg" title="User:Apcbg">Apcbg</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Apcbg#c-Apcbg-2010-06-13T15:02:00.000Z-Narson-2010-06-12T21:29:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:02, 13 June 2010 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Apcbg-2010-06-13T15:02:00.000Z-Narson-2010-06-12T21:29:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Apcbg-2010-06-13T15:02:00.000Z-Narson-2010-06-12T21:29:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Narson-2010-06-13T15:06:00.000Z-Apcbg-2010-06-13T15:02:00.000Z"></span>Yeah, I suspect the Lib Dems would happily have Lucas take our whip, but her own party would probably have a fit if she came into government that way. Our party would also probably have a fit. We are really struggling in making that mental change to government. Anyway, I'll start compiling stuff for the article and see what I can do to move it forward after Thursday (by-election time sadly) <span style="font-family: helvetica;"> --<a href="/wiki/User:Narson" title="User:Narson"><span style="color:#1100;"><b>Narson</b></span></a> ~ <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Narson" title="User talk:Narson"><span style="color:#900;"><i>Talk</i></span></a> • </span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Apcbg#c-Narson-2010-06-13T15:06:00.000Z-Apcbg-2010-06-13T15:02:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:06, 13 June 2010 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Narson-2010-06-13T15:06:00.000Z-Apcbg-2010-06-13T15:02:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Narson-2010-06-13T15:06:00.000Z-Apcbg-2010-06-13T15:02:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Apcbg-2010-06-15T09:37:00.000Z-Narson-2010-06-13T15:06:00.000Z"></span>Wish you every success in the by-elections, and happy editing :-); do let me know if I could be of any assistance in the latter. <a href="/wiki/User:Apcbg" title="User:Apcbg">Apcbg</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Apcbg#c-Apcbg-2010-06-15T09:37:00.000Z-Narson-2010-06-13T15:06:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:37, 15 June 2010 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Apcbg-2010-06-15T09:37:00.000Z-Narson-2010-06-13T15:06:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Apcbg-2010-06-15T09:37:00.000Z-Narson-2010-06-13T15:06:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Apcbg-2010-07-05T11:45:00.000Z-Narson-2010-06-13T15:06:00.000Z"></span>Dear Narson, you might be interested to see the new article <a href="https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lioubomir_Ivanov" class="extiw" title="fr:Lioubomir Ivanov">fr:Lioubomir Ivanov</a> in the French Wiki written by <a href="/wiki/User:Hubertgui" title="User:Hubertgui">User:Hubertgui</a>; it is a substantial effort, quite informative indeed, and even if not exactly NPOV (my opinion at least) it is appreciated nonetheless. <a href="/wiki/User:Apcbg" title="User:Apcbg">Apcbg</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Apcbg#c-Apcbg-2010-07-05T11:45:00.000Z-Narson-2010-06-13T15:06:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:45, 5 July 2010 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Apcbg-2010-07-05T11:45:00.000Z-Narson-2010-06-13T15:06:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Apcbg-2010-07-05T11:45:00.000Z-Narson-2010-06-13T15:06:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Civilians_left_at_Port_Louis_after_Onslow_takeover" data-mw-thread-id="h-Civilians_left_at_Port_Louis_after_Onslow_takeover-2010-07-12T03:32:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Civilians_left_at_Port_Louis_after_Onslow_takeover-2010-07-12T03:32:00.000Z"></span>Civilians left at Port Louis after Onslow takeover<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Civilians_left_at_Port_Louis_after_Onslow_takeover-2010-07-12T03:32:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Apcbg&action=edit&section=92" title="Edit section: Civilians left at Port Louis after Onslow takeover"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Dab14763-2010-07-12T03:32:00.000Z-Civilians_left_at_Port_Louis_after_Onslow_takeover"></span>Apcbg, the number of people you have here: <a href="/wiki/User:Apcbg/Port-Louis-January-1833" title="User:Apcbg/Port-Louis-January-1833">Residents of Port Louis as of 5 January 1833</a> doesn't quite tally with the information in Getting It Right which says there were 22 residents left, and that Ventura Pasos and 4 Gauchos arrived later in March along with Mathew Brisbane and Thomas Helsby. <a href="/wiki/User:Dab14763" title="User:Dab14763">Dab14763</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Dab14763" title="User talk:Dab14763">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Apcbg#c-Dab14763-2010-07-12T03:32:00.000Z-Civilians_left_at_Port_Louis_after_Onslow_takeover" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">03:32, 12 July 2010 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Dab14763-2010-07-12T03:32:00.000Z-Civilians_left_at_Port_Louis_after_Onslow_takeover"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span 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title="Category:Bulgaria in Antarctica (page does not exist)">Category:Bulgaria in Antarctica</a></b>, which you created, has been nominated for <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Category_deletion_policy" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:Category deletion policy">deletion</a>, <a href="/wiki/Category:Categories_for_merging" title="Category:Categories for merging">merging</a>, or <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Naming_conventions_(categories)" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:Naming conventions (categories)">renaming</a>. 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href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Future_Perfect_at_Sunrise&oldid=376931792#Vandalized_articles">action ban</a>, see <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template%3AGreek_Alphabet&action=historysubmit&diff=376439651&oldid=376439577">this</a>. <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/89.238.153.2" title="Special:Contributions/89.238.153.2">89.238.153.2</a> (<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:89.238.153.2&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:89.238.153.2 (page does not exist)">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Apcbg#c-89.238.153.2-2010-08-03T14:13:00.000Z-Violation" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:13, 3 August 2010 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-89.238.153.2-2010-08-03T14:13:00.000Z-Violation"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" 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<p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Peter_Horn-2010-09-10T15:50:00.000Z-Antarctic_islands"></span>Apcbg, please see <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Peter_Horn#Antarctic_islands" title="User talk:Peter Horn">User talk:Peter Horn#Antarctic islands</a> for my reply. <a href="/wiki/User:Peter_Horn" title="User:Peter Horn">Peter Horn</a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Peter_Horn" title="User talk:Peter Horn">User talk</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Apcbg#c-Peter_Horn-2010-09-10T15:50:00.000Z-Antarctic_islands" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:50, 10 September 2010 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Peter_Horn-2010-09-10T15:50:00.000Z-Antarctic_islands"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span 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data-mw-comment-end="c-Peter_Horn-2010-09-10T21:39:00.000Z-Peter_Horn-2010-09-10T15:50:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Non-Self-Governing" data-mw-thread-id="h-Non-Self-Governing-2010-09-29T22:10:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Non-Self-Governing-2010-09-29T22:10:00.000Z"></span>Non-Self-Governing<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Non-Self-Governing-2010-09-29T22:10:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Apcbg&action=edit&section=97" title="Edit section: Non-Self-Governing"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-JCRB-2010-09-29T22:10:00.000Z-Non-Self-Governing"></span>Hi, I would appreciate you explained why you reverted my edit on the Falklands being "Non-Self-Governing". This fact is well referenced given their inclusion in the <a href="/wiki/United_Nations_list_of_Non-Self-Governing_Territories" class="mw-redirect" title="United Nations list of Non-Self-Governing Territories">UN List</a>. I would also appreciate you discussed this in the talk page <a class="external autonumber" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Falkland_Islands#Falklands_is_a_Non-Self-Governing_Territory">[10]</a>. Thanks. <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:JCRB&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:JCRB (page does not exist)">JCRB</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:JCRB" title="User talk:JCRB">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Apcbg#c-JCRB-2010-09-29T22:10:00.000Z-Non-Self-Governing" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:10, 29 September 2010 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-JCRB-2010-09-29T22:10:00.000Z-Non-Self-Governing"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-JCRB-2010-09-29T22:10:00.000Z-Non-Self-Governing"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Apcbg-2010-09-30T09:31:00.000Z-JCRB-2010-09-29T22:10:00.000Z"></span>Hi, as far as I can recall the Falklands self-government has already been discussed in some talk page (don't remember where exactly, but <a href="/wiki/User:Justin_A_Kuntz" title="User:Justin A Kuntz">Justin</a> might know I believe), and it was pointed out that the Falklands (same as the other UK overseas territories) enjoy a higher degree of self-government than e.g. Scotland for they have exclusive ownership of their natural resources, pursue their own immigration policies (subject to which are the UK residents too) etc. Being on that UN list is just that, being on some list, which does not interfere with their actual self-government. Otherwise, the present lede is the result of consensus among the editors involved, and its change would require a new consensus that would seem not to have resulted from your quoted post in the talk page. Best, <a href="/wiki/User:Apcbg" title="User:Apcbg">Apcbg</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Apcbg#c-Apcbg-2010-09-30T09:31:00.000Z-JCRB-2010-09-29T22:10:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:31, 30 September 2010 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Apcbg-2010-09-30T09:31:00.000Z-JCRB-2010-09-29T22:10:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Apcbg-2010-09-30T09:31:00.000Z-JCRB-2010-09-29T22:10:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="New_articles_2" data-mw-thread-id="h-New_articles_2-2010-12-18T20:22:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-New_articles_2-2010-12-18T20:22:00.000Z"></span>New articles<span data-mw-comment-end="h-New_articles_2-2010-12-18T20:22:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Apcbg&action=edit&section=98" title="Edit section: New articles"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Bermicourt-2010-12-18T20:22:00.000Z-New_articles_2"></span>Whoa - what an amazing number of new articles you are creating on mountains and hills in the Antartica. You may be interested to know there is a new portal, <a href="/wiki/Portal:Mountains" title="Portal:Mountains">Portal:Mountains</a>, part of <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Mountains" title="Wikipedia:WikiProject Mountains">WP:WikiProject Mountains</a>, where you can list the new articles you have created for all to see. Happy editing! --<a href="/wiki/User:Bermicourt" title="User:Bermicourt">Bermicourt</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Bermicourt" title="User talk:Bermicourt">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Apcbg#c-Bermicourt-2010-12-18T20:22:00.000Z-New_articles_2" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:22, 18 December 2010 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Bermicourt-2010-12-18T20:22:00.000Z-New_articles_2"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Bermicourt-2010-12-18T20:22:00.000Z-New_articles_2"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Talk:Gibraltar" data-mw-thread-id="h-Talk:Gibraltar-2010-12-18T21:01:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Talk:Gibraltar-2010-12-18T21:01:00.000Z"></span><a href="/wiki/Talk:Gibraltar" title="Talk:Gibraltar">Talk:Gibraltar</a><span data-mw-comment-end="h-Talk:Gibraltar-2010-12-18T21:01:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Apcbg&action=edit&section=99" title="Edit section: Talk:Gibraltar"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Vassyana-2010-12-18T21:01:00.000Z-Talk:Gibraltar"></span>I have provided a warning about discussion participation at <a href="/wiki/Talk:Gibraltar#Discussion_Warning" title="Talk:Gibraltar">Talk:Gibraltar#Discussion Warning</a>. This is to ensure you have been explicitly notified. This note does not indicate any wrongdoing on your part. I am sending it to all talk page participants with the past 72 hours. </p><p>As a recent participant, I explicitly invite you to join in the discussion that I have started at <a href="/wiki/Talk:Gibraltar#Refocus" title="Talk:Gibraltar">Talk:Gibraltar#Refocus</a>. Discussions on the talk page are going around in old circles. I am trying to help break that pattern and get the discussion focused. I look forward to your contributions in helping improve the article. --<a href="/wiki/User:Vassyana" title="User:Vassyana">Vassyana</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Vassyana" title="User talk:Vassyana">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Apcbg#c-Vassyana-2010-12-18T21:01:00.000Z-Talk:Gibraltar" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:01, 18 December 2010 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Vassyana-2010-12-18T21:01:00.000Z-Talk:Gibraltar"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Vassyana-2010-12-18T21:01:00.000Z-Talk:Gibraltar"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Antarctica_2" data-mw-thread-id="h-Antarctica_2-2010-12-25T17:37:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Antarctica_2-2010-12-25T17:37:00.000Z"></span>Antarctica<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Antarctica_2-2010-12-25T17:37:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Apcbg&action=edit&section=100" title="Edit section: Antarctica"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Ser_Amantio_di_Nicolao-2010-12-25T17:37:00.000Z-Antarctica_2"></span>Apologies for that - they seem to have been sucked in inadvertently. I'll fix it this afternoon sometime. </p><p>Merry Christmas to you, too! --<a href="/wiki/User:Ser_Amantio_di_Nicolao" title="User:Ser Amantio di Nicolao"><span style="font-family:Old English Text MT;">Ser Amantio di Nicolao</span></a><sup><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Ser_Amantio_di_Nicolao" title="User talk:Ser Amantio di Nicolao"><i>Che dicono a Signa?</i></a></sup><sub><a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Ser_Amantio_di_Nicolao" title="Special:Contributions/Ser Amantio di Nicolao"><b>Lo dicono a Signa.</b></a></sub> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Apcbg#c-Ser_Amantio_di_Nicolao-2010-12-25T17:37:00.000Z-Antarctica_2" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:37, 25 December 2010 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Ser_Amantio_di_Nicolao-2010-12-25T17:37:00.000Z-Antarctica_2"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Ser_Amantio_di_Nicolao-2010-12-25T17:37:00.000Z-Antarctica_2"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Ser_Amantio_di_Nicolao-2010-12-25T20:58:00.000Z-Ser_Amantio_di_Nicolao-2010-12-25T17:37:00.000Z"></span>That <i>should</i> do the trick. Sorry - I think what happened was that I plugged the wrong set of categories into AWB and then neglected to notice. 'S what comes of editing while half-asleep, I suppose... --<a href="/wiki/User:Ser_Amantio_di_Nicolao" title="User:Ser Amantio di Nicolao"><span style="font-family:Old English Text MT;">Ser Amantio di Nicolao</span></a><sup><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Ser_Amantio_di_Nicolao" title="User talk:Ser Amantio di Nicolao"><i>Che dicono a Signa?</i></a></sup><sub><a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Ser_Amantio_di_Nicolao" title="Special:Contributions/Ser Amantio di Nicolao"><b>Lo dicono a Signa.</b></a></sub> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Apcbg#c-Ser_Amantio_di_Nicolao-2010-12-25T20:58:00.000Z-Ser_Amantio_di_Nicolao-2010-12-25T17:37:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:58, 25 December 2010 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Ser_Amantio_di_Nicolao-2010-12-25T20:58:00.000Z-Ser_Amantio_di_Nicolao-2010-12-25T17:37:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Ser_Amantio_di_Nicolao-2010-12-25T20:58:00.000Z-Ser_Amantio_di_Nicolao-2010-12-25T17:37:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Apcbg-2010-12-26T07:09:00.000Z-Ser_Amantio_di_Nicolao-2010-12-25T20:58:00.000Z"></span>Many thanks for fixing the problem, and have nice holidays! <a href="/wiki/User:Apcbg" title="User:Apcbg">Apcbg</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Apcbg#c-Apcbg-2010-12-26T07:09:00.000Z-Ser_Amantio_di_Nicolao-2010-12-25T20:58:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">07:09, 26 December 2010 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Apcbg-2010-12-26T07:09:00.000Z-Ser_Amantio_di_Nicolao-2010-12-25T20:58:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Apcbg-2010-12-26T07:09:00.000Z-Ser_Amantio_di_Nicolao-2010-12-25T20:58:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="UNASUR_maps" data-mw-thread-id="h-UNASUR_maps-2010-12-28T23:18:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-UNASUR_maps-2010-12-28T23:18:00.000Z"></span>UNASUR maps<span data-mw-comment-end="h-UNASUR_maps-2010-12-28T23:18:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Apcbg&action=edit&section=101" title="Edit section: UNASUR maps"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Pfainuk-2010-12-28T23:18:00.000Z-UNASUR_maps"></span>Thought you might be interested - the person who added the maps to those pages is the <a href="/wiki/User:Camilo_Sanchez" title="User:Camilo Sanchez">same person</a> who tried to persuade us to use <a href="/wiki/File:Malvinas_spanish_locations.svg" title="File:Malvinas spanish locations.svg">this map</a> on the <a href="/wiki/Talk:Falkland_Islands/Archive_8#Falklands_map_with_Spanish_terms_-_Request_for_Comment" title="Talk:Falkland Islands/Archive 8">FI article</a> in February. <i><a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Pfainuk&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Pfainuk (page does not exist)">Pfainuk</a></i> <small><i><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Pfainuk" title="User talk:Pfainuk">talk</a></i></small> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Apcbg#c-Pfainuk-2010-12-28T23:18:00.000Z-UNASUR_maps" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:18, 28 December 2010 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Pfainuk-2010-12-28T23:18:00.000Z-UNASUR_maps"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Pfainuk-2010-12-28T23:18:00.000Z-UNASUR_maps"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Wee_Curry_Monster-2010-12-28T23:39:00.000Z-Pfainuk-2010-12-28T23:18:00.000Z"></span>He's been a busy boy, check out <a href="/wiki/Mercosur" title="Mercosur">Mercosur</a> as well. <a href="/wiki/User:Wee_Curry_Monster" title="User:Wee Curry Monster">Wee Curry Monster</a> <small><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Wee_Curry_Monster" title="User talk:Wee Curry Monster">talk</a></small> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Apcbg#c-Wee_Curry_Monster-2010-12-28T23:39:00.000Z-Pfainuk-2010-12-28T23:18:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:39, 28 December 2010 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Wee_Curry_Monster-2010-12-28T23:39:00.000Z-Pfainuk-2010-12-28T23:18:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Wee_Curry_Monster-2010-12-28T23:39:00.000Z-Pfainuk-2010-12-28T23:18:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Pfainuk-2010-12-29T00:00:00.000Z-Wee_Curry_Monster-2010-12-28T23:39:00.000Z"></span>Got it. There was also one on <a href="/wiki/Andean_Community_of_Nations" class="mw-redirect" title="Andean Community of Nations">Andean Community of Nations</a>. <i><a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Pfainuk&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Pfainuk (page does not exist)">Pfainuk</a></i> <small><i><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Pfainuk" title="User talk:Pfainuk">talk</a></i></small> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Apcbg#c-Pfainuk-2010-12-29T00:00:00.000Z-Wee_Curry_Monster-2010-12-28T23:39:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:00, 29 December 2010 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Pfainuk-2010-12-29T00:00:00.000Z-Wee_Curry_Monster-2010-12-28T23:39:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Pfainuk-2010-12-29T00:00:00.000Z-Wee_Curry_Monster-2010-12-28T23:39:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Apcbg-2010-12-29T06:21:00.000Z-Pfainuk-2010-12-29T00:00:00.000Z"></span>Hi, and thanks for taking care. <a href="/wiki/User:Apcbg" title="User:Apcbg">Apcbg</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Apcbg#c-Apcbg-2010-12-29T06:21:00.000Z-Pfainuk-2010-12-29T00:00:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">06:21, 29 December 2010 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Apcbg-2010-12-29T06:21:00.000Z-Pfainuk-2010-12-29T00:00:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Apcbg-2010-12-29T06:21:00.000Z-Pfainuk-2010-12-29T00:00:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Stub_tags,_again" data-mw-thread-id="h-Stub_tags,_again-2011-01-16T00:57:00.000Z"><span id="Stub_tags.2C_again"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Stub_tags,_again-2011-01-16T00:57:00.000Z"></span>Stub tags, again<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Stub_tags,_again-2011-01-16T00:57:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Apcbg&action=edit&section=102" title="Edit section: Stub tags, again"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Ser_Amantio_di_Nicolao-2011-01-16T00:57:00.000Z-Stub_tags,_again"></span>Just to let you know - I've gotten the OK to start <span class="nowrap">{{</span><a href="/wiki/Template:SouthShetlandIslands-geo-stub" class="mw-redirect" title="Template:SouthShetlandIslands-geo-stub">SouthShetlandIslands-geo-stub</a><span class="nowrap">}}</span>, which I would like to do tomorrow. <a href="/w/index.php?title=Category:West_Antarctica_geography_stubs&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Category:West Antarctica geography stubs (page does not exist)">Category:West Antarctica geography stubs</a> is so tremendously oversized that it will be a great help, I think. --<a href="/wiki/User:Ser_Amantio_di_Nicolao" title="User:Ser Amantio di Nicolao"><span style="font-family:Old English Text MT;">Ser Amantio di Nicolao</span></a><sup><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Ser_Amantio_di_Nicolao" title="User talk:Ser Amantio di Nicolao"><i>Che dicono a Signa?</i></a></sup><sub><a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Ser_Amantio_di_Nicolao" title="Special:Contributions/Ser Amantio di Nicolao"><b>Lo dicono a Signa.</b></a></sub> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Apcbg#c-Ser_Amantio_di_Nicolao-2011-01-16T00:57:00.000Z-Stub_tags,_again" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:57, 16 January 2011 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Ser_Amantio_di_Nicolao-2011-01-16T00:57:00.000Z-Stub_tags,_again"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Ser_Amantio_di_Nicolao-2011-01-16T00:57:00.000Z-Stub_tags,_again"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Apcbg-2011-01-17T15:51:00.000Z-Ser_Amantio_di_Nicolao-2011-01-16T00:57:00.000Z"></span>Well done! I have added also the Antarctic Treaty flag, as the islands are covered by the treaty. Best, <a href="/wiki/User:Apcbg" title="User:Apcbg">Apcbg</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Apcbg#c-Apcbg-2011-01-17T15:51:00.000Z-Ser_Amantio_di_Nicolao-2011-01-16T00:57:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:51, 17 January 2011 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Apcbg-2011-01-17T15:51:00.000Z-Ser_Amantio_di_Nicolao-2011-01-16T00:57:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Apcbg-2011-01-17T15:51:00.000Z-Ser_Amantio_di_Nicolao-2011-01-16T00:57:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Proposed_deletion_of_Basic_Roman_spelling_of_English" data-mw-thread-id="h-Proposed_deletion_of_Basic_Roman_spelling_of_English-2011-01-24T11:19:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Proposed_deletion_of_Basic_Roman_spelling_of_English-2011-01-24T11:19:00.000Z"></span><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Proposed_deletion" title="Wikipedia:Proposed deletion">Proposed deletion</a> of <a href="/w/index.php?title=Basic_Roman_spelling_of_English&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Basic Roman spelling of English (page does not exist)">Basic Roman spelling of English</a><span data-mw-comment-end="h-Proposed_deletion_of_Basic_Roman_spelling_of_English-2011-01-24T11:19:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Apcbg&action=edit&section=103" title="Edit section: Proposed deletion of Basic Roman spelling of English"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Lambiam-2011-01-24T11:19:00.000Z-Proposed_deletion_of_Basic_Roman_spelling_of_English"></span><figure class="mw-halign-left" typeof="mw:File"><span><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/7/74/Ambox_warning_yellow.svg/48px-Ambox_warning_yellow.svg.png" decoding="async" width="48" height="42" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/7/74/Ambox_warning_yellow.svg/72px-Ambox_warning_yellow.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/7/74/Ambox_warning_yellow.svg/96px-Ambox_warning_yellow.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="386" data-file-height="334"/></span><figcaption></figcaption></figure> <p>The article <a href="/w/index.php?title=Basic_Roman_spelling_of_English&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Basic Roman spelling of English (page does not exist)">Basic Roman spelling of English</a> has been <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Proposed_deletion" title="Wikipedia:Proposed deletion">proposed for deletion</a> because of the following concern: </p> <dl><dd><b>No evidence of notability; only mentioned in sources written by the inventors.</b></dd></dl> <p>While all contributions to Wikipedia are appreciated, content or articles may be <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:DEL#REASON" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:DEL">deleted for any of several reasons</a>. </p><p>You may prevent the proposed deletion by removing the <span class="nowrap"><code>{{proposed deletion/dated}}</code></span> notice, but please explain why in your <a href="/wiki/Help:Edit_summary" title="Help:Edit summary">edit summary</a> or on <a href="/w/index.php?title=Talk:Basic_Roman_spelling_of_English&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Talk:Basic Roman spelling of English (page does not exist)">the article's talk page</a>. </p><p>Please consider improving the article to address the issues raised. 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The <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Criteria_for_speedy_deletion" title="Wikipedia:Criteria for speedy deletion">speedy deletion</a> process can result in deletion without discussion, and <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion" title="Wikipedia:Articles for deletion">articles for deletion</a> allows discussion to reach <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Consensus" title="Wikipedia:Consensus">consensus</a> for deletion. --<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Lambiam" title="User talk:Lambiam">Lambiam</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Apcbg#c-Lambiam-2011-01-24T11:26:00.000Z-Proposed_deletion_of_Roman_Phonetic_Alphabet_for_English" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:26, 24 January 2011 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Lambiam-2011-01-24T11:26:00.000Z-Proposed_deletion_of_Roman_Phonetic_Alphabet_for_English"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Lambiam-2011-01-24T11:26:00.000Z-Proposed_deletion_of_Roman_Phonetic_Alphabet_for_English"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Nomination_of_Basic_Roman_spelling_of_English_and_Roman_Phonetic_Alphabet_for_English_for_deletion" data-mw-thread-id="h-Nomination_of_Basic_Roman_spelling_of_English_and_Roman_Phonetic_Alphabet_for_En-2011-01-27T17:03:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Nomination_of_Basic_Roman_spelling_of_English_and_Roman_Phonetic_Alphabet_for_En-2011-01-27T17:03:00.000Z"></span>Nomination of <a href="/w/index.php?title=Basic_Roman_spelling_of_English&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Basic Roman spelling of English (page does not exist)">Basic Roman spelling of English</a> and <a href="/w/index.php?title=Roman_Phonetic_Alphabet_for_English&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Roman Phonetic Alphabet for English (page does not exist)">Roman Phonetic Alphabet for English</a> for deletion<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Nomination_of_Basic_Roman_spelling_of_English_and_Roman_Phonetic_Alphabet_for_En-2011-01-27T17:03:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Apcbg&action=edit&section=105" title="Edit section: Nomination of Basic Roman spelling of English and Roman Phonetic Alphabet for English for deletion"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <div class="floatleft" style="margin-bottom:0"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Lambiam-2011-01-27T17:03:00.000Z-Nomination_of_Basic_Roman_spelling_of_English_and_Roman_Phonetic_Alphabet_for_En"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/5/5f/Ambox_warning_orange.svg/42px-Ambox_warning_orange.svg.png" decoding="async" width="42" height="36" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/5/5f/Ambox_warning_orange.svg/63px-Ambox_warning_orange.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/5/5f/Ambox_warning_orange.svg/84px-Ambox_warning_orange.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="378" data-file-height="326"/></span></span></div><p>The articles <b><a href="/w/index.php?title=Basic_Roman_spelling_of_English&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Basic Roman spelling of English (page does not exist)">Basic Roman spelling of English</a></b> and <b><a href="/w/index.php?title=Roman_Phonetic_Alphabet_for_English&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Roman Phonetic Alphabet for English (page does not exist)">Roman Phonetic Alphabet for English</a></b> are being discussed concerning whether they are suitable for inclusion as articles according to <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:List_of_policies_and_guidelines" title="Wikipedia:List of policies and guidelines">Wikipedia's policies and guidelines</a> or whether they should be <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Deletion_policy" title="Wikipedia:Deletion policy">deleted</a>. </p><p>The articles will be discussed at <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Basic_Roman_spelling_of_English" title="Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Basic Roman spelling of English">Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Basic Roman spelling of English</a> until a consensus is reached, and anyone is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on good quality evidence, and our policies and guidelines. </p><p>Users may edit the articles during the discussion, including to improve the articles to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion template from the top of the articles. --<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Lambiam" title="User talk:Lambiam">Lambiam</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Apcbg#c-Lambiam-2011-01-27T17:03:00.000Z-Nomination_of_Basic_Roman_spelling_of_English_and_Roman_Phonetic_Alphabet_for_En" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:03, 27 January 2011 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Lambiam-2011-01-27T17:03:00.000Z-Nomination_of_Basic_Roman_spelling_of_English_and_Roman_Phonetic_Alphabet_for_En"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Lambiam-2011-01-27T17:03:00.000Z-Nomination_of_Basic_Roman_spelling_of_English_and_Roman_Phonetic_Alphabet_for_En"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Arbcom_complaint" data-mw-thread-id="h-Arbcom_complaint-2011-05-31T22:10:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Arbcom_complaint-2011-05-31T22:10:00.000Z"></span>Arbcom complaint<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Arbcom_complaint-2011-05-31T22:10:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Apcbg&action=edit&section=106" title="Edit section: Arbcom complaint"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><a class="external free" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case#WP:NPOV_and_WP:GAMES_in_.22Falkland_Islands.22_and_related_articles"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Alex79818-2011-05-31T22:10:00.000Z-Arbcom_complaint"></span>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case#WP:NPOV_and_WP:GAMES_in_.22Falkland_Islands.22_and_related_articles</a><a href="/wiki/User:Alex79818" title="User:Alex79818">Alex79818</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Alex79818" title="User talk:Alex79818">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Apcbg#c-Alex79818-2011-05-31T22:10:00.000Z-Arbcom_complaint" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:10, 31 May 2011 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Alex79818-2011-05-31T22:10:00.000Z-Arbcom_complaint"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Alex79818-2011-05-31T22:10:00.000Z-Arbcom_complaint"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Thanks!" data-mw-thread-id="h-Thanks!-2011-07-06T09:33:00.000Z"><span id="Thanks.21"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Thanks!-2011-07-06T09:33:00.000Z"></span>Thanks!<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Thanks!-2011-07-06T09:33:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Apcbg&action=edit&section=107" title="Edit section: Thanks!"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Grutness-2011-07-06T09:33:00.000Z-Thanks!"></span>Hi Apcbg - I was just about to correct the outline map of the South Shetland Islands I made (<a href="/wiki/File:SouthShetlandstubmap.png" title="File:SouthShetlandstubmap.png">File:SouthShetlandstubmap.png</a>) when I found out that you'd already done so - thanks! <a href="/wiki/User:Grutness" title="User:Grutness">Grutness</a>...<i><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Grutness" title="User talk:Grutness"><small style="color:#008822;">wha?</small></a></i> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Apcbg#c-Grutness-2011-07-06T09:33:00.000Z-Thanks!" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:33, 6 July 2011 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Grutness-2011-07-06T09:33:00.000Z-Thanks!"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Grutness-2011-07-06T09:33:00.000Z-Thanks!"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Apcbg-2011-07-06T10:03:00.000Z-Grutness-2011-07-06T09:33:00.000Z"></span>For nothing. And you are doing a great job on those Antarctic articles. <a href="/wiki/User:Apcbg" title="User:Apcbg">Apcbg</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Apcbg#c-Apcbg-2011-07-06T10:03:00.000Z-Grutness-2011-07-06T09:33:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:03, 6 July 2011 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Apcbg-2011-07-06T10:03:00.000Z-Grutness-2011-07-06T09:33:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Apcbg-2011-07-06T10:03:00.000Z-Grutness-2011-07-06T09:33:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Grutness-2011-07-07T01:10:00.000Z-Apcbg-2011-07-06T10:03:00.000Z"></span>Doing my best :) Cheers, <a href="/wiki/User:Grutness" title="User:Grutness">Grutness</a>...<i><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Grutness" title="User talk:Grutness"><small style="color:#008822;">wha?</small></a></i> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Apcbg#c-Grutness-2011-07-07T01:10:00.000Z-Apcbg-2011-07-06T10:03:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">01:10, 7 July 2011 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Grutness-2011-07-07T01:10:00.000Z-Apcbg-2011-07-06T10:03:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Grutness-2011-07-07T01:10:00.000Z-Apcbg-2011-07-06T10:03:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Survey_for_new_page_patrollers" data-mw-thread-id="h-Survey_for_new_page_patrollers-2011-10-25T11:12:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Survey_for_new_page_patrollers-2011-10-25T11:12:00.000Z"></span>Survey for new page patrollers<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Survey_for_new_page_patrollers-2011-10-25T11:12:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Apcbg&action=edit&section=108" title="Edit section: Survey for new page patrollers"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <table style="background-color: #dfeff3; border: 4px solid #bddff2; width:100%" cellpadding="5"> <tbody><tr> <td><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-MessageDeliveryBot-2011-10-25T11:12:00.000Z-Survey_for_new_page_patrollers"></span><figure class="mw-halign-right" typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:NPPbarnstar.jpg" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7d/NPPbarnstar.jpg/70px-NPPbarnstar.jpg" decoding="async" width="70" height="67" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7d/NPPbarnstar.jpg/105px-NPPbarnstar.jpg 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7d/NPPbarnstar.jpg/140px-NPPbarnstar.jpg 2x" data-file-width="2000" data-file-height="1900"/></a><figcaption></figcaption></figure> <p><big><b>New page patrol – <i>Survey Invitation</i></b></big> </p> <hr/> <p>Hello Apcbg! The <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:WMF" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:WMF">WMF</a> is currently developing new tools to make new page patrolling much easier. Whether you have patrolled many pages or only a few, we now need to know about your experience. The survey takes only 6 minutes, and the information you provide will not be shared with third parties other than to assist us in analyzing the results of the survey; the WMF will not use the information to identify you. </p> <ul><li>If this invitation also appears on other accounts you may have, please complete the survey once only.</li> <li>If this has been sent to you in error and you have never patrolled new pages, please ignore it.</li></ul> <p><b>Please click <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.surveymonkey.com/s/9RSKYC9">HERE</a> to take part.</b><br/> Many thanks in advance for providing this essential feedback. </p> <hr/> <p><small>You are receiving this invitation because you have patrolled new pages. For more information, please see <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:New_pages_patrol/Survey" title="Wikipedia:New pages patrol/Survey">NPP Survey</a></small> </p> </td></tr></tbody></table> <p><small>Delivered by <a href="/wiki/User:MessageDeliveryBot" title="User:MessageDeliveryBot">MessageDeliveryBot</a> on behalf of <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Wiki_Media_Foundation" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:Wiki Media Foundation">Wiki Media Foundation</a> at <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Apcbg#c-MessageDeliveryBot-2011-10-25T11:12:00.000Z-Survey_for_new_page_patrollers" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:12, 25 October 2011 (UTC)</a>.</small><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-MessageDeliveryBot-2011-10-25T11:12:00.000Z-Survey_for_new_page_patrollers"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-MessageDeliveryBot-2011-10-25T11:12:00.000Z-Survey_for_new_page_patrollers"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Merry_Christmas_2" data-mw-thread-id="h-Merry_Christmas_2"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Merry_Christmas_2"></span>Merry Christmas<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Merry_Christmas_2"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Apcbg&action=edit&section=109" title="Edit section: Merry Christmas"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span></div> <div style="border-radius:1em; box-shadow: 0.1em 0.1em 0.5em rgba(0,0,0,0.75);; float: left; margin-top: 3px; background-color: #FC9; border: 1px solid #8888aa; padding: 10px; width: 425px; clear: both;"> <div style="border-radius:1em; box-shadow: 0.1em 0.1em 0.5em rgba(0,0,0,0.75);; border-style:solid; border-color:#4682B4; background-color:#900020; border-width:5px; text-align:left; padding:18px;" class="plainlinks"> <figure class="mw-halign-center" typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Gerard_van_Honthorst_001.jpg" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/38/Gerard_van_Honthorst_001.jpg/360px-Gerard_van_Honthorst_001.jpg" decoding="async" width="360" height="287" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/38/Gerard_van_Honthorst_001.jpg/540px-Gerard_van_Honthorst_001.jpg 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/38/Gerard_van_Honthorst_001.jpg/720px-Gerard_van_Honthorst_001.jpg 2x" data-file-width="2024" data-file-height="1614"/></a><figcaption></figcaption></figure><div class="center"><p><span style="color:white">"And the angel said unto them, Fear not: for, behold,</span></p><p> I bring you good tidings of great joy, which shall be to all people.</p><p><span style="color:white"> For unto you is born this day in the city of David a Saviour, which is Christ the Lord."</span></p><p><i><small>Luke 2:10-11 (King James Version)</small></i></p><p> <span style="color:white"> <a href="/wiki/User:Wee_Curry_Monster" title="User:Wee Curry Monster">Wee Curry Monster</a> <small><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Wee_Curry_Monster" title="User talk:Wee Curry Monster">talk</a></small>is wishing you a <a href="/wiki/Christmas" title="Christmas"><span style="color:white">Merry Christmas</span></a>.</span></p><p><span style="color:white">This greeting (and season) promotes <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiLove" title="Wikipedia:WikiLove"><span style="color:white">WikiLove.</span></a> </span></p></div> <br/> <p><span style="color:white">Spread the cheer by adding {{Subst:Xmas4}} to their talk page with a friendly message.</span> </p> </div></div> <div style="clear:both;" class=""></div> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Nothing_important" data-mw-thread-id="h-Nothing_important-2012-01-17T20:01:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Nothing_important-2012-01-17T20:01:00.000Z"></span>Nothing important<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Nothing_important-2012-01-17T20:01:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Apcbg&action=edit&section=110" title="Edit section: Nothing important"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Cabazap-2012-01-17T20:01:00.000Z-Nothing_important"></span>But I just had to let you know that I absolutely love your Antarctic photos, they have made my day. -- <a href="/wiki/User:Cabazap" title="User:Cabazap"><span style="color:#AF7817;"><span style="font-family:Impact;">Alyas Grey</span></span></a> : <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Cabazap" title="User talk:Cabazap">talk</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Apcbg#c-Cabazap-2012-01-17T20:01:00.000Z-Nothing_important" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:01, 17 January 2012 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Cabazap-2012-01-17T20:01:00.000Z-Nothing_important"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Cabazap-2012-01-17T20:01:00.000Z-Nothing_important"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Apcbg-2012-01-20T10:01:00.000Z-Cabazap-2012-01-17T20:01:00.000Z"></span>Thank you for the good words. Best, <a href="/wiki/User:Apcbg" title="User:Apcbg">Apcbg</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Apcbg#c-Apcbg-2012-01-20T10:01:00.000Z-Cabazap-2012-01-17T20:01:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:01, 20 January 2012 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Apcbg-2012-01-20T10:01:00.000Z-Cabazap-2012-01-17T20:01:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Apcbg-2012-01-20T10:01:00.000Z-Cabazap-2012-01-17T20:01:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Dispute_resolution_survey" data-mw-thread-id="h-Dispute_resolution_survey-2012-04-06T02:20:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Dispute_resolution_survey-2012-04-06T02:20:00.000Z"></span>Dispute resolution survey<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Dispute_resolution_survey-2012-04-06T02:20:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Apcbg&action=edit&section=111" title="Edit section: Dispute resolution survey"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <table style="background-color: #CCFFFF; border: 4px solid #3399cc; width:100%" cellpadding="5"> <tbody><tr> <td><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Steven_Zhang-2012-04-06T02:20:00.000Z-Dispute_resolution_survey"></span><figure class="mw-halign-right" typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Peace_dove.svg" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/4/43/Peace_dove.svg/70px-Peace_dove.svg.png" decoding="async" width="70" height="68" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/4/43/Peace_dove.svg/105px-Peace_dove.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/4/43/Peace_dove.svg/140px-Peace_dove.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="739" data-file-height="718"/></a><figcaption></figcaption></figure> <p><big><b>Dispute Resolution – <i>Survey Invite</i></b></big> </p> <hr/> <p>Hello Apcbg. I am currently conducting a study on the dispute resolution processes on the English Wikipedia, in the hope that the results will help improve these processes in the future. Whether you have used dispute resolution a little or a lot, now we need to know about your experience. The survey takes around five minutes, and the information you provide will not be shared with third parties other than to assist in analyzing the results of the survey. No personally identifiable information will be released. </p><p><b>Please click <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/viewform?formkey=dDBlN2RPQzljTFgySWg1bGFPZkVJcWc6MQ">HERE</a> to participate.</b><br/> Many thanks in advance for your comments and thoughts. </p> <hr/> <p><small>You are receiving this invitation because you have had some activity in dispute resolution over the past year. For more information, please see the associated <a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Research:Wikipedia_Dispute_Resolution" class="extiw" title="meta:Research:Wikipedia Dispute Resolution">research page</a>. <span style="font-family:Verdana;"><a href="/wiki/User:Steven_Zhang" class="mw-redirect" title="User:Steven Zhang"><span style="color:#078330;">Steven</span></a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Steven_Zhang" class="mw-redirect" title="User talk:Steven Zhang"><span style="color:#2875b0;">Zhang</span></a> <sup><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:DRP" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:DRP"><span style="color:#d67f0f;">DR goes to Wikimania!</span></a></sup></span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Apcbg#c-Steven_Zhang-2012-04-06T02:20:00.000Z-Dispute_resolution_survey" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">02:20, 6 April 2012 (UTC)</a></small><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Steven_Zhang-2012-04-06T02:20:00.000Z-Dispute_resolution_survey"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Steven_Zhang-2012-04-06T02:20:00.000Z-Dispute_resolution_survey"></span> </p> </td></tr></tbody></table> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Question_about_the_transliteration_change_for_Macedonia" data-mw-thread-id="h-Question_about_the_transliteration_change_for_Macedonia-2012-04-20T18:10:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Question_about_the_transliteration_change_for_Macedonia-2012-04-20T18:10:00.000Z"></span>Question about the transliteration change for Macedonia<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Question_about_the_transliteration_change_for_Macedonia-2012-04-20T18:10:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Apcbg&action=edit&section=112" title="Edit section: Question about the transliteration change for Macedonia"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Macedonicus-2012-04-20T18:10:00.000Z-Question_about_the_transliteration_change_for_Macedonia"></span>Hey there. I'm curious to know how can a consensus be made here on Wikipedia and specifically for this topic? The users that previously commented have negative opinion without bringing up good arguments for that. How many supporters are needed so that the change is approved? <a href="/wiki/User:Macedonicus" title="User:Macedonicus">Macedonicus</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Macedonicus" title="User talk:Macedonicus">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Apcbg#c-Macedonicus-2012-04-20T18:10:00.000Z-Question_about_the_transliteration_change_for_Macedonia" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:10, 20 April 2012 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Macedonicus-2012-04-20T18:10:00.000Z-Question_about_the_transliteration_change_for_Macedonia"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Macedonicus-2012-04-20T18:10:00.000Z-Question_about_the_transliteration_change_for_Macedonia"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Apcbg-2012-04-21T06:05:00.000Z-Macedonicus-2012-04-20T18:10:00.000Z"></span>Well, consensus is usually achieved by arguments that convince an overwhelming majority of the editors involved. There is no numerical criterium for consensus but it is generally apparent if there is consensus or not. I would expect further discussion as some of the participants are experienced editors with good record in transliteration issues. Of course, consensus is seldom easy and sometimes impossible, and the proposed change is not a minor one either. Anyway, this particular issue is on the agenda, won't disappear and I am quite certain it's a matter of time for the change to happen. It would have been helpful if the Macedonian government was more explicit about its policy on transliteration, as are those of Russia, Ukraine or Bulgaria for instance. <a href="/wiki/User:Apcbg" title="User:Apcbg">Apcbg</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Apcbg#c-Apcbg-2012-04-21T06:05:00.000Z-Macedonicus-2012-04-20T18:10:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">06:05, 21 April 2012 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Apcbg-2012-04-21T06:05:00.000Z-Macedonicus-2012-04-20T18:10:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Apcbg-2012-04-21T06:05:00.000Z-Macedonicus-2012-04-20T18:10:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Notice_of_Dispute_resolution_discussion" data-mw-thread-id="h-Notice_of_Dispute_resolution_discussion-2012-07-26T01:07:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Notice_of_Dispute_resolution_discussion-2012-07-26T01:07:00.000Z"></span>Notice of Dispute resolution discussion<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Notice_of_Dispute_resolution_discussion-2012-07-26T01:07:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Apcbg&action=edit&section=113" title="Edit section: Notice of Dispute resolution discussion"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Ximhua-2012-07-26T01:07:00.000Z-Notice_of_Dispute_resolution_discussion"></span>Hello. This message is being sent to inform you that there is currently a discussion at <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Dispute_resolution_noticeboard" title="Wikipedia:Dispute resolution noticeboard">Wikipedia:Dispute resolution noticeboard</a> regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. The thread is "<a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Dispute_resolution_noticeboard#Http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bulgaria" title="Wikipedia:Dispute resolution noticeboard">Http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bulgaria</a>". Thank you. --<a href="/wiki/User:Ximhua" title="User:Ximhua">Ximhua</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Ximhua" title="User talk:Ximhua">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Apcbg#c-Ximhua-2012-07-26T01:07:00.000Z-Notice_of_Dispute_resolution_discussion" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">01:07, 26 July 2012 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Ximhua-2012-07-26T01:07:00.000Z-Notice_of_Dispute_resolution_discussion"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Ximhua-2012-07-26T01:07:00.000Z-Notice_of_Dispute_resolution_discussion"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Notice_of_Dispute_resolution_discussion_2" data-mw-thread-id="h-Notice_of_Dispute_resolution_discussion_2-2012-07-26T01:07:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Notice_of_Dispute_resolution_discussion_2-2012-07-26T01:07:00.000Z"></span>Notice of Dispute resolution discussion<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Notice_of_Dispute_resolution_discussion_2-2012-07-26T01:07:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Apcbg&action=edit&section=114" title="Edit section: Notice of Dispute resolution discussion"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Ximhua-2012-07-26T01:07:00.000Z-Notice_of_Dispute_resolution_discussion_2"></span>Hello. This message is being sent to inform you that there is currently a discussion at <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Dispute_resolution_noticeboard" title="Wikipedia:Dispute resolution noticeboard">Wikipedia:Dispute resolution noticeboard</a> regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. The thread is "<a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Dispute_resolution_noticeboard#Http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bulgaria" title="Wikipedia:Dispute resolution noticeboard">Http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bulgaria</a>". Thank you. --<a href="/wiki/User:Ximhua" title="User:Ximhua">Ximhua</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Ximhua" title="User talk:Ximhua">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Apcbg#c-Ximhua-2012-07-26T01:07:00.000Z-Notice_of_Dispute_resolution_discussion_2" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">01:07, 26 July 2012 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Ximhua-2012-07-26T01:07:00.000Z-Notice_of_Dispute_resolution_discussion_2"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Ximhua-2012-07-26T01:07:00.000Z-Notice_of_Dispute_resolution_discussion_2"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Bulgaria_dispute" data-mw-thread-id="h-Bulgaria_dispute-2012-07-27T13:32:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Bulgaria_dispute-2012-07-27T13:32:00.000Z"></span>Bulgaria dispute<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Bulgaria_dispute-2012-07-27T13:32:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Apcbg&action=edit&section=115" title="Edit section: Bulgaria dispute"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Ximhua-2012-07-27T13:32:00.000Z-Bulgaria_dispute"></span>Hi Apcbg, we need your help at the Bulgaria dispute. If you feel that 681 and 1185 have to be included, please post on the dispute page. (<a href="/wiki/User:Ximhua" title="User:Ximhua">Ximhua</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Ximhua" title="User talk:Ximhua">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Apcbg#c-Ximhua-2012-07-27T13:32:00.000Z-Bulgaria_dispute" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:32, 27 July 2012 (UTC)</a>)<span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Ximhua-2012-07-27T13:32:00.000Z-Bulgaria_dispute"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Ximhua-2012-07-27T13:32:00.000Z-Bulgaria_dispute"></span> </p><p><br/><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Espor-2012-09-05T14:03:00.000Z-Bulgaria_dispute"></span> Hi Apcbg, </p><p>I am Espor. Since I have noticed that you have been involved in the discussion whether 632/681 must be retained in the infobox of the Bulgaria page I would like to invite you to the renewed discussion on the same subject. These time we will win over the opponents. We cannot give up and betray the truth. Cheers.<a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Espor&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Espor (page does not exist)">Espor</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Espor" title="User talk:Espor">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Apcbg#c-Espor-2012-09-05T14:03:00.000Z-Bulgaria_dispute" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:03, 5 September 2012 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Espor-2012-09-05T14:03:00.000Z-Bulgaria_dispute"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Espor-2012-09-05T14:03:00.000Z-Bulgaria_dispute"></span> </p><p><br/> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Apcbg-2012-09-06T15:41:00.000Z-Espor-2012-09-05T14:03:00.000Z"></span>Dear Espor and Ximhua,</dd></dl> <dl><dd>Unfortunately, that exchange is far from a meaningful discussion; it's rather the anti-681 party relying on the new status quo imposed by abuse of admin powers. If you look at Tourbillon's responses to my last two comments, then it's apparent that he not only fails to respond to the points made, but would seem to hardly understand his very own writings. <a href="/wiki/User:Apcbg" title="User:Apcbg">Apcbg</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Apcbg#c-Apcbg-2012-09-06T15:41:00.000Z-Espor-2012-09-05T14:03:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:41, 6 September 2012 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Apcbg-2012-09-06T15:41:00.000Z-Espor-2012-09-05T14:03:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Apcbg-2012-09-06T15:41:00.000Z-Espor-2012-09-05T14:03:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Espor-2012-09-10T09:47:00.000Z-Bulgaria_dispute"></span>Dear Apcbg, </p><p>the Bulgaria page is accessible. Should we revert the infobox to the old consensus version. Tourbillon and co are extraordinary low educated editors. They run into logical contradictions all the time. If I was not at the office till late I could spend more time to expose their circular logic, however I am very busy, therefore we need more people to participate in the talk. Otherwise they will clame victory if none of us responds for a long period of time. Funny how Tourbillon does not know anything about ancient History either. How is this poorly educated individual even allowed to contribute in WP. His arguments are circular therefore absolute waste of time. But he is not admin, he is an editor with lots of free time who apparently edits here and there. If we unite we can win over over this crowd.<a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Espor&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Espor (page does not exist)">Espor</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Espor" title="User talk:Espor">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Apcbg#c-Espor-2012-09-10T09:47:00.000Z-Bulgaria_dispute" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:47, 10 September 2012 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Espor-2012-09-10T09:47:00.000Z-Bulgaria_dispute"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Espor-2012-09-10T09:47:00.000Z-Bulgaria_dispute"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Apcbg-2012-09-10T13:06:00.000Z-Espor-2012-09-10T09:47:00.000Z"></span>Dear Espor, I am quite aware of the poor arguments and logical fallacies of the anti-681 faction; that wouldn't stop them from abusing admin powers, claim nonexistant 'consensus' ignoring normal WP practice. And they would be too happy to block their oponents for edit warring, disruptive editing etc. However, WP is an open, long term project, which is a guarantee that this issue would not disappear even if their POV is enforced by power; such a flagrant deviation from WP standards is unsustainable in the long run and will be corrected. As for now, the first step could be to demand the admin Canterbury Tail who protected the present version of the article be so kind to restore the stable, established consensus version existing for several years now and featuring the 681 date. <a href="/wiki/User:Apcbg" title="User:Apcbg">Apcbg</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Apcbg#c-Apcbg-2012-09-10T13:06:00.000Z-Espor-2012-09-10T09:47:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:06, 10 September 2012 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Apcbg-2012-09-10T13:06:00.000Z-Espor-2012-09-10T09:47:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Apcbg-2012-09-10T13:06:00.000Z-Espor-2012-09-10T09:47:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Bulgaria_Dispute_-_Official_Complaint" data-mw-thread-id="h-Bulgaria_Dispute_-_Official_Complaint-2012-07-29T15:50:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Bulgaria_Dispute_-_Official_Complaint-2012-07-29T15:50:00.000Z"></span>Bulgaria Dispute - Official Complaint<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Bulgaria_Dispute_-_Official_Complaint-2012-07-29T15:50:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Apcbg&action=edit&section=116" title="Edit section: Bulgaria Dispute - Official Complaint"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Ximhua-2012-07-29T15:50:00.000Z-Bulgaria_Dispute_-_Official_Complaint"></span>I've submitted this matter to the mediation committee: <a class="external free" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Requests_for_mediation/Bulgaria">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Requests_for_mediation/Bulgaria</a> Please review! (<a href="/wiki/User:Ximhua" title="User:Ximhua">Ximhua</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Ximhua" title="User talk:Ximhua">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Apcbg#c-Ximhua-2012-07-29T15:50:00.000Z-Bulgaria_Dispute_-_Official_Complaint" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:50, 29 July 2012 (UTC)</a>)<span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Ximhua-2012-07-29T15:50:00.000Z-Bulgaria_Dispute_-_Official_Complaint"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Ximhua-2012-07-29T15:50:00.000Z-Bulgaria_Dispute_-_Official_Complaint"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Formal_mediation_has_been_requested" data-mw-thread-id="h-Formal_mediation_has_been_requested-2012-07-29T16:39:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Formal_mediation_has_been_requested-2012-07-29T16:39:00.000Z"></span>Formal mediation has been requested<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Formal_mediation_has_been_requested-2012-07-29T16:39:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Apcbg&action=edit&section=117" title="Edit section: Formal mediation has been requested"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-MediationBot-2012-07-29T16:39:00.000Z-Formal_mediation_has_been_requested"></span><style data-mw-deduplicate="TemplateStyles:r1256334245">.mw-parser-output .ivmbox{margin-bottom:1em;border:1px solid var(--border-color-base,#a2a9b1);background-color:var(--background-color-warning-subtle,#fdf2d5);padding:0.5em;display:flex;align-items:center}@media screen{html.skin-theme-clientpref-night .mw-parser-output .ivmbox[style*="background"]{background-color:var(--background-color-warning-subtle,ivory)!important;color:inherit}}@media screen and (prefers-color-scheme:dark){html.skin-theme-clientpref-os .mw-parser-output .ivmbox[style*="background"]{background-color:var(--background-color-warning-subtle,ivory)!important;color:inherit}}.mw-parser-output .ivmbox-image{padding-left:1px;padding-right:0.5em;max-width:100px;flex:1 0 25px}.mw-parser-output .ivmbox-text{padding:0.5em 0}.mw-parser-output .ivmbox-text>:first-child{margin-top:0}.mw-parser-output .ivmbox-text>:last-child{margin-bottom:0}</style><div class="ivmbox" style=""> <div class="ivmbox-text"> <pre>The <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Mediation_Committee" title="Wikipedia:Mediation Committee">Mediation Committee</a> has received a request for formal mediation of the dispute relating to "Bulgaria". As an editor concerned in this dispute, you are invited to participate in the mediation. <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Mediation" title="Wikipedia:Mediation">Mediation</a> is a voluntary process which resolves a dispute over article content by facilitation, consensus-building, and compromise among the involved editors. After reviewing the <a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Requests_for_mediation/Bulgaria&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Wikipedia:Requests for mediation/Bulgaria (page does not exist)">request page</a>, the <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Mediation_Committee/Policy" title="Wikipedia:Mediation Committee/Policy">formal mediation policy</a>, and the <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Requests_for_mediation/Guide" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:Requests for mediation/Guide">guide to formal mediation</a>, <b>please indicate in the "party agreement" section whether you agree to participate.</b> Because requests must be responded to by the Mediation Committee within seven days, please respond to the request by 5 August 2012. </pre> <p>Discussion relating to the mediation request is welcome at the case talk page. Thank you.<br/> <small>Message delivered by <a href="/wiki/User:MediationBot" title="User:MediationBot">MediationBot</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:MediationBot" class="mw-redirect" title="User talk:MediationBot">talk</a>) on <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Mediation_Committee#MediationBot" title="Wikipedia:Mediation Committee">behalf</a> of the Mediation Committee. <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Apcbg#c-MediationBot-2012-07-29T16:39:00.000Z-Formal_mediation_has_been_requested" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:39, 29 July 2012 (UTC)</a></small><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-MediationBot-2012-07-29T16:39:00.000Z-Formal_mediation_has_been_requested"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-MediationBot-2012-07-29T16:39:00.000Z-Formal_mediation_has_been_requested"></span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Request_for_mediation_rejected" data-mw-thread-id="h-Request_for_mediation_rejected-2012-08-08T03:54:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Request_for_mediation_rejected-2012-08-08T03:54:00.000Z"></span>Request for mediation rejected<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Request_for_mediation_rejected-2012-08-08T03:54:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Apcbg&action=edit&section=118" title="Edit section: Request for mediation rejected"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Lord_Roem-2012-08-08T03:54:00.000Z-Request_for_mediation_rejected"></span><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1256334245"><div class="ivmbox" style=""> <div class="ivmbox-text"> <pre>The <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Requests_for_mediation" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:Requests for mediation">request for formal mediation</a> concerning Bulgaria, to which you were listed as a party, has been <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Requests_for_mediation/Guide#Rejected_requests" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:Requests for mediation/Guide">declined</a>. To read an explanation by the Mediation Committee for the rejection of this request, see the <a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Requests_for_mediation/Bulgaria&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Wikipedia:Requests for mediation/Bulgaria (page does not exist)">mediation request page</a>, which will be deleted by an administrator after a reasonable time. Please direct questions relating to this request to the <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Mediation_Committee#Chair" title="Wikipedia:Mediation Committee">Chairman</a> of the Committee, or to the <a href="/wiki/User:Mediation_Committee" class="mw-redirect" title="User:Mediation Committee">mailing list</a>. For more information on forms of dispute resolution, other than formal mediation, that are available, see <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Dispute_resolution" title="Wikipedia:Dispute resolution">Wikipedia:Dispute resolution</a>. </pre> <p>For the Mediation Committee, <a href="/wiki/User:Lord_Roem" title="User:Lord Roem">Lord Roem</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Lord_Roem" title="User talk:Lord Roem">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Apcbg#c-Lord_Roem-2012-08-08T03:54:00.000Z-Request_for_mediation_rejected" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">03:54, 8 August 2012 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Lord_Roem-2012-08-08T03:54:00.000Z-Request_for_mediation_rejected"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Lord_Roem-2012-08-08T03:54:00.000Z-Request_for_mediation_rejected"></span><br/> <small>(Delivered by <a href="/wiki/User:MediationBot" title="User:MediationBot">MediationBot</a>, <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Mediation_Committee#MediationBot" title="Wikipedia:Mediation Committee">on behalf of</a> the Mediation Committee.)</small> </p> </div> </div> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Bulgaria_-_Info_Box_-_Request_for_Comment" data-mw-thread-id="h-Bulgaria_-_Info_Box_-_Request_for_Comment-2012-08-09T02:30:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Bulgaria_-_Info_Box_-_Request_for_Comment-2012-08-09T02:30:00.000Z"></span>Bulgaria - Info Box - Request for Comment<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Bulgaria_-_Info_Box_-_Request_for_Comment-2012-08-09T02:30:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Apcbg&action=edit&section=119" title="Edit section: Bulgaria - Info Box - Request for Comment"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Ximhua-2012-08-09T02:30:00.000Z-Bulgaria_-_Info_Box_-_Request_for_Comment"></span>Hi Apcbg, </p><p>Please, comment on this page if you'd like 681 retained in the info box. </p><p><a class="external free" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Requests_for_comment/Request_board&pe=1&#Bulgaria_-_InfoBox">http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Requests_for_comment/Request_board&pe=1&#Bulgaria_-_InfoBox</a> </p><p><a href="/wiki/User:Ximhua" title="User:Ximhua">Ximhua</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Ximhua" title="User talk:Ximhua">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Apcbg#c-Ximhua-2012-08-09T02:30:00.000Z-Bulgaria_-_Info_Box_-_Request_for_Comment" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">02:30, 9 August 2012 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Ximhua-2012-08-09T02:30:00.000Z-Bulgaria_-_Info_Box_-_Request_for_Comment"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Ximhua-2012-08-09T02:30:00.000Z-Bulgaria_-_Info_Box_-_Request_for_Comment"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Self-Determination" data-mw-thread-id="h-Self-Determination-2012-09-12T08:58:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Self-Determination-2012-09-12T08:58:00.000Z"></span>Self-Determination<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Self-Determination-2012-09-12T08:58:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Apcbg&action=edit&section=120" title="Edit section: Self-Determination"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Wee_Curry_Monster-2012-09-12T08:58:00.000Z-Self-Determination"></span>See <a href="/wiki/Self-determination" title="Self-determination">Self-determination</a> Gaba p is edit warring there now. Regards, <a href="/wiki/User:Wee_Curry_Monster" title="User:Wee Curry Monster">Wee Curry Monster</a> <small><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Wee_Curry_Monster" title="User talk:Wee Curry Monster">talk</a></small> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Apcbg#c-Wee_Curry_Monster-2012-09-12T08:58:00.000Z-Self-Determination" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">08:58, 12 September 2012 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Wee_Curry_Monster-2012-09-12T08:58:00.000Z-Self-Determination"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Wee_Curry_Monster-2012-09-12T08:58:00.000Z-Self-Determination"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Apcbg-2012-09-12T18:46:00.000Z-Wee_Curry_Monster-2012-09-12T08:58:00.000Z"></span>Many thanks for letting me know, I've added it to my watchlist. Best, <a href="/wiki/User:Apcbg" title="User:Apcbg">Apcbg</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Apcbg#c-Apcbg-2012-09-12T18:46:00.000Z-Wee_Curry_Monster-2012-09-12T08:58:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:46, 12 September 2012 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Apcbg-2012-09-12T18:46:00.000Z-Wee_Curry_Monster-2012-09-12T08:58:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Apcbg-2012-09-12T18:46:00.000Z-Wee_Curry_Monster-2012-09-12T08:58:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Possibly_unfree_File:Arda.jpg" data-mw-thread-id="h-Possibly_unfree_File:Arda.jpg-2012-09-12T14:42:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Possibly_unfree_File:Arda.jpg-2012-09-12T14:42:00.000Z"></span>Possibly unfree File:Arda.jpg<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Possibly_unfree_File:Arda.jpg-2012-09-12T14:42:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Apcbg&action=edit&section=121" title="Edit section: Possibly unfree File:Arda.jpg"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Stefan2-2012-09-12T14:42:00.000Z-Possibly_unfree_File:Arda.jpg"></span>A file that you uploaded or altered, <a href="/wiki/File:Arda.jpg" title="File:Arda.jpg">File:Arda.jpg</a>, has been listed at <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Possibly_unfree_files" title="Wikipedia:Possibly unfree files">Wikipedia:Possibly unfree files</a> because its copyright status is unclear or disputed. 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Thank you. <a href="/wiki/User:Stefan2" class="mw-redirect" title="User:Stefan2">Stefan2</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Stefan2" title="User talk:Stefan2">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Apcbg#c-Stefan2-2012-09-12T14:42:00.000Z-Possibly_unfree_File:Arda.jpg" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:42, 12 September 2012 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Stefan2-2012-09-12T14:42:00.000Z-Possibly_unfree_File:Arda.jpg"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Stefan2-2012-09-12T14:42:00.000Z-Possibly_unfree_File:Arda.jpg"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Трансфер_на_файл_в_Комънс" data-mw-thread-id="h-Трансфер_на_файл_в_Комънс-2012-09-12T18:39:00.000Z"><span id=".D0.A2.D1.80.D0.B0.D0.BD.D1.81.D1.84.D0.B5.D1.80_.D0.BD.D0.B0_.D1.84.D0.B0.D0.B9.D0.BB_.D0.B2_.D0.9A.D0.BE.D0.BC.D1.8A.D0.BD.D1.81"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Трансфер_на_файл_в_Комънс-2012-09-12T18:39:00.000Z"></span>Трансфер на файл в Комънс<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Трансфер_на_файл_в_Комънс-2012-09-12T18:39:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Apcbg&action=edit&section=122" title="Edit section: Трансфер на файл в Комънс"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Laveol-2012-09-12T18:39:00.000Z-Трансфер_на_файл_в_Комънс"></span>Здравей. Във връзка с горното съобщение ми се иска да те питам нещо. Искаш ли въпросната снимка да я преместим в Wiki Commons? От там ще може да я използваме и за евентуална статия на български и други езици. Мога да го направя много бързо, а ако искаш да го свършиш ти - <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:TRANSFER" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:TRANSFER">тук</a> има цялата информация, от която се нуждаеш. Поздрави и успешна работа, --<b><a href="/wiki/User:Laveol" title="User:Laveol"><span style="color:#007700;">L<span style="color:#009900;">a<span style="color:#00aa00;">v<span style="color:#00cc00;">e</span>o</span>l</span></span></a> <sup><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Laveol" title="User talk:Laveol">T</a></sup></b> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Apcbg#c-Laveol-2012-09-12T18:39:00.000Z-Трансфер_на_файл_в_Комънс" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:39, 12 September 2012 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Laveol-2012-09-12T18:39:00.000Z-Трансфер_на_файл_в_Комънс"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Laveol-2012-09-12T18:39:00.000Z-Трансфер_на_файл_в_Комънс"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Apcbg-2012-09-12T18:58:00.000Z-Laveol-2012-09-12T18:39:00.000Z"></span>Драги Laveol, ще ти бъда признателен ако го направиш, на място с лоша връзка съм понастоящем. Поздрави, <a href="/wiki/User:Apcbg" title="User:Apcbg">Apcbg</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Apcbg#c-Apcbg-2012-09-12T18:58:00.000Z-Laveol-2012-09-12T18:39:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:58, 12 September 2012 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Apcbg-2012-09-12T18:58:00.000Z-Laveol-2012-09-12T18:39:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Apcbg-2012-09-12T18:58:00.000Z-Laveol-2012-09-12T18:39:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Laveol-2012-09-12T20:31:00.000Z-Apcbg-2012-09-12T18:58:00.000Z"></span>Готово е :) --<b><a href="/wiki/User:Laveol" title="User:Laveol"><span style="color:#007700;">L<span style="color:#009900;">a<span style="color:#00aa00;">v<span style="color:#00cc00;">e</span>o</span>l</span></span></a> <sup><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Laveol" title="User talk:Laveol">T</a></sup></b> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Apcbg#c-Laveol-2012-09-12T20:31:00.000Z-Apcbg-2012-09-12T18:58:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:31, 12 September 2012 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Laveol-2012-09-12T20:31:00.000Z-Apcbg-2012-09-12T18:58:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Laveol-2012-09-12T20:31:00.000Z-Apcbg-2012-09-12T18:58:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Apcbg-2012-09-13T05:44:00.000Z-Laveol-2012-09-12T20:31:00.000Z"></span>Thanks! <a href="/wiki/User:Apcbg" title="User:Apcbg">Apcbg</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Apcbg#c-Apcbg-2012-09-13T05:44:00.000Z-Laveol-2012-09-12T20:31:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">05:44, 13 September 2012 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Apcbg-2012-09-13T05:44:00.000Z-Laveol-2012-09-12T20:31:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Apcbg-2012-09-13T05:44:00.000Z-Laveol-2012-09-12T20:31:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="The_Bulgaria_article" data-mw-thread-id="h-The_Bulgaria_article-2012-09-29T01:27:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-The_Bulgaria_article-2012-09-29T01:27:00.000Z"></span>The Bulgaria article<span data-mw-comment-end="h-The_Bulgaria_article-2012-09-29T01:27:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Apcbg&action=edit&section=123" title="Edit section: The Bulgaria article"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Espor-2012-09-29T01:27:00.000Z-The_Bulgaria_article"></span>Hi Apcbg, </p><p>I haven't seen you participating in our discussion on the info box for quite some time. Please take some time and help rebuking the false arguments of the other party since I am alone against very motivated and at the same time very uneducated group of two editors. You should not be discouraged by their stubborn behavior since that is their goal- they want us to get tired and retire from the discussion so that they claim victory and right to change the article as they are pleased. </p><p>Regards, Espor <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Espor&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Espor (page does not exist)">Espor</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Espor" title="User talk:Espor">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Apcbg#c-Espor-2012-09-29T01:27:00.000Z-The_Bulgaria_article" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">01:27, 29 September 2012 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Espor-2012-09-29T01:27:00.000Z-The_Bulgaria_article"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Espor-2012-09-29T01:27:00.000Z-The_Bulgaria_article"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Apcbg-2012-09-29T18:14:00.000Z-Espor-2012-09-29T01:27:00.000Z"></span>Dear Espor, your valuable contribution there is most appreciated indeed. As it is, there is no longer any sensible discussion, that ended with the FPAS compromise. It serves no reasonable purpose to continue repeating past arguments, that's merely legitimizing Tourbillon's persistent nonsense. And they cannot claim any 'victory' either. Best, <a href="/wiki/User:Apcbg" title="User:Apcbg">Apcbg</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Apcbg#c-Apcbg-2012-09-29T18:14:00.000Z-Espor-2012-09-29T01:27:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:14, 29 September 2012 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Apcbg-2012-09-29T18:14:00.000Z-Espor-2012-09-29T01:27:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Apcbg-2012-09-29T18:14:00.000Z-Espor-2012-09-29T01:27:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Compromise_versions" data-mw-thread-id="h-Compromise_versions-2012-10-14T14:13:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Compromise_versions-2012-10-14T14:13:00.000Z"></span>Compromise versions<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Compromise_versions-2012-10-14T14:13:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Apcbg&action=edit&section=124" title="Edit section: Compromise versions"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Future_Perfect_at_Sunrise-2012-10-14T14:13:00.000Z-Compromise_versions"></span>The version you reverted to the second time <a class="external autonumber" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Bulgaria&diff=517741834&oldid=517741539">[11]</a> was entirely different from the one you first claimed to have been mine <a class="external autonumber" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Bulgaria&diff=517735710&oldid=517735022">[12]</a>, and which obviously wasn't. But now you have made a blanket revert erasing multiple unrelated changes to the body text. If you want to restore the infobox version from 10 September, do it cleanly preserving the work of others. <a href="/wiki/User:Future_Perfect_at_Sunrise" title="User:Future Perfect at Sunrise">Fut.Perf.</a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Future_Perfect_at_Sunrise" title="User talk:Future Perfect at Sunrise">☼</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Apcbg#c-Future_Perfect_at_Sunrise-2012-10-14T14:13:00.000Z-Compromise_versions" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:13, 14 October 2012 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Future_Perfect_at_Sunrise-2012-10-14T14:13:00.000Z-Compromise_versions"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Future_Perfect_at_Sunrise-2012-10-14T14:13:00.000Z-Compromise_versions"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Apcbg-2012-10-14T14:44:00.000Z-Future_Perfect_at_Sunrise-2012-10-14T14:13:00.000Z"></span>I am well aware of that. However, if I do the second, then you may (rightly) point out that is not your actual version. I did it the first time, restoring a version that was not exactly your original one but had its infobox appended to show not just the founding daters but also the end dates for the medieval states (the first such addition for one of those states was made by someone else and defended by you, then I added the end dates for the other state); that is inessential, I was happy with your original version indeed. <a href="/wiki/User:Apcbg" title="User:Apcbg">Apcbg</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Apcbg#c-Apcbg-2012-10-14T14:44:00.000Z-Future_Perfect_at_Sunrise-2012-10-14T14:13:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:44, 14 October 2012 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Apcbg-2012-10-14T14:44:00.000Z-Future_Perfect_at_Sunrise-2012-10-14T14:13:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Apcbg-2012-10-14T14:44:00.000Z-Future_Perfect_at_Sunrise-2012-10-14T14:13:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Future_Perfect_at_Sunrise-2012-10-14T14:57:00.000Z-Apcbg-2012-10-14T14:44:00.000Z"></span>Nonsense. The crucial point of that compromise was the explicit separation of medieval and modern states, and you conveniently left that out in your first alleged "restoring". I am struggling hard to find a way to interpret that as a good-faith mistake and not a deliberate act of sneaky manipulation. As for your second edit, you have now admitted that you knowingly and deliberately destroyed the work of others to make a <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:POINT" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:POINT">WP:POINT</a>; that is a deliberately disruptive edit under any interpretation I can think of. Now, clean that up – if your very next edit is not a self-revert of that mess, you're at <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:AE" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:AE">WP:AE</a>. <a href="/wiki/User:Future_Perfect_at_Sunrise" title="User:Future Perfect at Sunrise">Fut.Perf.</a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Future_Perfect_at_Sunrise" title="User talk:Future Perfect at Sunrise">☼</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Apcbg#c-Future_Perfect_at_Sunrise-2012-10-14T14:57:00.000Z-Apcbg-2012-10-14T14:44:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:57, 14 October 2012 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Future_Perfect_at_Sunrise-2012-10-14T14:57:00.000Z-Apcbg-2012-10-14T14:44:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Future_Perfect_at_Sunrise-2012-10-14T14:57:00.000Z-Apcbg-2012-10-14T14:44:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Apcbg-2012-10-14T15:05:00.000Z-Future_Perfect_at_Sunrise-2012-10-14T14:57:00.000Z"></span>Yes I didn't realise that difference and separation – my apologies for that. And like I wrote, I was happy with your original version. I am reverting my last edit. <a href="/wiki/User:Apcbg" title="User:Apcbg">Apcbg</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Apcbg#c-Apcbg-2012-10-14T15:05:00.000Z-Future_Perfect_at_Sunrise-2012-10-14T14:57:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:05, 14 October 2012 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Apcbg-2012-10-14T15:05:00.000Z-Future_Perfect_at_Sunrise-2012-10-14T14:57:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Apcbg-2012-10-14T15:05:00.000Z-Future_Perfect_at_Sunrise-2012-10-14T14:57:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Disambiguation_link_notification_for_November_4" data-mw-thread-id="h-Disambiguation_link_notification_for_November_4-2012-11-04T10:41:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Disambiguation_link_notification_for_November_4-2012-11-04T10:41:00.000Z"></span>Disambiguation link notification for November 4<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Disambiguation_link_notification_for_November_4-2012-11-04T10:41:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Apcbg&action=edit&section=125" title="Edit section: Disambiguation link notification for November 4"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-DPL_bot-2012-11-04T10:41:00.000Z-Disambiguation_link_notification_for_November_4"></span>Hi. 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I added links to your Wikipedia/Wikimedia freeware pictures (<a class="external free" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Gypsy-Cove.jpg">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Gypsy-Cove.jpg</a> and <a class="external free" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:East-Falkland.jpg">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:East-Falkland.jpg</a> and <a class="external free" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Port-William.JPG">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Port-William.JPG</a>). I also gave credit to you on my web pages for your work. Thank you for sharing with the public. My website is: </p><p><a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="http://www.freeenglishsite.com/">http://www.freeenglishsite.com/</a> </p><p>I add pictures such as yours to one of the following major sections of my site: 1. World section - contains information and over 10,000 images of every world country and territory. Link at: <a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="http://www.freeenglishsite.com/world/index.htm">http://www.freeenglishsite.com/world/index.htm</a> </p><p>2. USA section - contains information and images of every USA state and territory. Link at: <a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="http://www.freeenglishsite.com/world/usa/index.htm">http://www.freeenglishsite.com/world/usa/index.htm</a> </p><p>3. English section - "Mel and Wes" lessons in conversation format. Stories are located in various USA states and world countries such as China, England, Germany, Japan, Mexico and Thailand. Each lesson has many slang terms and idioms, which I link to my Slang Dictionary. This eventually will have over 5,000 terms. Currently, it has about 3,000 slang and idioms. I regularly add new lessons and slang terms. Link at: <a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="http://www.freeenglishsite.com/english/lessons/index.htm">http://www.freeenglishsite.com/english/lessons/index.htm</a> Slang Dictionary link at: <a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="http://www.freeenglishsite.com/english/slang/Eslang_a.htm">http://www.freeenglishsite.com/english/slang/Eslang_a.htm</a> </p><p>Prior to retirement, I taught English at several private and public universities in the United States. </p><p>Please share this free site with your friends. I hope all will enjoy the pictures and find the English information useful. 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Let me direct you too <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-latin-america-18424768">this BBC article</a> which states: </p><p><br/> </p> <table class="cquote pullquote" role="presentation" style="margin:auto; border-collapse: collapse; border: none; width: auto;"> <tbody><tr> <td style="width: 20px; vertical-align: top; border: none; color: #B2B7F2; font-size: 40px; font-family: 'Times New Roman', Times, serif; font-weight: bold; line-height: .6em; text-align: left; padding: 10px 10px;">“ </td> <td style="vertical-align: top; border: none; padding: 4px 10px;">The European Union and the US say they recognize the "de facto UK administration of the Falklands/Malvinas", but take no position regarding the issue of sovereignty, which they say must be settled by the UK and Argentina. </td> <td style="width: 20px; vertical-align: bottom; border: none; color: #B2B7F2; font-size: 40px; font-family: 'Times New Roman', Times, serif; font-weight: bold; line-height: .6em; text-align: right; padding: 10px 10px;">” </td></tr> </tbody></table> <p>and <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="http://en.mercopress.com/2012/01/31/malvinas-dispute-a-bilateral-issue-which-is-not-included-in-the-eu-agenda">this Mercopress article</a> which states: </p><p><br/> </p> <table class="cquote pullquote" role="presentation" style="margin:auto; border-collapse: collapse; border: none; width: auto;"> <tbody><tr> <td style="width: 20px; vertical-align: top; border: none; color: #B2B7F2; font-size: 40px; font-family: 'Times New Roman', Times, serif; font-weight: bold; line-height: .6em; text-align: left; padding: 10px 10px;">“ </td> <td style="vertical-align: top; border: none; padding: 4px 10px;">The EU ambassador explained that there is certain confusion regarding the Lisbon treaty since the fact that the Falklands/Malvinas are included is “merely descriptive”. Member states enumerate their overseas territories and in this case “it’s an article from previous treaties”. </td> <td style="width: 20px; vertical-align: bottom; border: none; color: #B2B7F2; font-size: 40px; font-family: 'Times New Roman', Times, serif; font-weight: bold; line-height: .6em; text-align: right; padding: 10px 10px;">” </td></tr> </tbody></table> <p>and </p><p><br/> </p> <table class="cquote pullquote" role="presentation" style="margin:auto; border-collapse: collapse; border: none; width: auto;"> <tbody><tr> <td style="width: 20px; vertical-align: top; border: none; color: #B2B7F2; font-size: 40px; font-family: 'Times New Roman', Times, serif; font-weight: bold; line-height: .6em; text-align: left; padding: 10px 10px;">“ </td> <td style="vertical-align: top; border: none; padding: 4px 10px;">This does not imply acknowledgement of UK sovereignty over the Falklands/Malvinas by EU members. This must be defined bilaterally between the UK and Argentina. The fact today is that the Islands are under British jurisdiction and this must be discussed with Argentina. It’s senseless to amend the Lisbon Treaty, otherwise Spain could not have signed with the UK the EU treaty because of the Gibraltar dispute, so definitively it does not make sense to pretend to amend the Lisbon treaty, which would also require the unanimity of all EU parliaments and the different procedures. </td> <td style="width: 20px; vertical-align: bottom; border: none; color: #B2B7F2; font-size: 40px; font-family: 'Times New Roman', Times, serif; font-weight: bold; line-height: .6em; text-align: right; padding: 10px 10px;">” </td></tr> </tbody></table> <p>I really don't think this can be made any more clear. If you have any kind of source stating the the EU backs the UK in its claim then please present it and we can work with it. The US neutral position is even easier to source so I won't bother posting here. I hope this helps. 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You did not contribute a <u>single character </u> to a very long discussion that lasted about two weeks but nevertheless showed up in the end to revert everything based simply on "<i>no consensus</i>". Perhaps giving a read to <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Don%27t_revert_due_solely_to_%22no_consensus%22" title="Wikipedia:Don't revert due solely to "no consensus"">WP:Don't revert due solely to "no consensus"</a> would be appropriate.<br/> In the future I would appreciate that if you intent on making decisions (such as your two reversals) on <b>thoroughly discussed</b> edits made to the the article then <i>at least</i> take the time to participate in said discussion. Regards. <a href="/wiki/User:Gaba_p" title="User:Gaba p"><span style="color:blue;">Gaba</span> </a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Gaba_p" title="User talk:Gaba p"><sup style="color:green;">(talk)</sup></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Apcbg#c-Gaba_p-2013-04-13T16:29:00.000Z-On_your_reversion_of_information_from_Falkland_Islands_sovereignty_dispute" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:29, 13 April 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Gaba_p-2013-04-13T16:29:00.000Z-On_your_reversion_of_information_from_Falkland_Islands_sovereignty_dispute"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Gaba_p-2013-04-13T16:29:00.000Z-On_your_reversion_of_information_from_Falkland_Islands_sovereignty_dispute"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Kahastok-2013-04-13T16:55:00.000Z-Gaba_p-2013-04-13T16:29:00.000Z"></span>Gaba, you really do need to reread <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:OWN" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:OWN">WP:OWN</a>.</dd></dl> <dl><dd>Yes, it was much discussed. But that doesn't mean that the discussion reached any form of consensus. You don't just get to announce that whatever you want has consensus, regardless of all the objections, which is effectively what you did here. Edit warring is not an alternative to consensus building. <i><a href="/wiki/User:Kahastok" title="User:Kahastok">Kahastok</a></i> <small><i><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Kahastok" title="User talk:Kahastok">talk</a></i></small> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Apcbg#c-Kahastok-2013-04-13T16:55:00.000Z-Gaba_p-2013-04-13T16:29:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:55, 13 April 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Kahastok-2013-04-13T16:55:00.000Z-Gaba_p-2013-04-13T16:29:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Kahastok-2013-04-13T16:55:00.000Z-Gaba_p-2013-04-13T16:29:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Gaba_p-2013-04-13T17:14:00.000Z-Kahastok-2013-04-13T16:55:00.000Z"></span>Kahastok: I absolutely never said that the discussion had reached a consensus. Care to present a diff of this accusation of yours? The discussion will never reach a full consensus because you and Wee Curry Monster (an apparently Apcbg also, even though he did not contribute anything to it) are blocking it. Simples.</dd> <dd>I waited for a valid objection or a much needed source (which I asked you and Wee Curry Monster for about 6 times) for <b>days</b> and neither you nor Wee Curry Monster presented either. You two are, simply put, <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:FILIBUSTERS" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:FILIBUSTERS">filibustering</a>:</dd></dl></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd></dd></dl></dd></dl> <table class="cquote pullquote" role="presentation" style="margin:auto; border-collapse: collapse; border: none; width: auto;"> <tbody><tr> <td style="width: 20px; vertical-align: top; border: none; color: #B2B7F2; font-size: 40px; font-family: 'Times New Roman', Times, serif; font-weight: bold; line-height: .6em; text-align: left; padding: 10px 10px;">“ </td> <td style="vertical-align: top; border: none; padding: 4px 10px;">So, you revert the person, and they revert you too, with edit summaries containing, "There's no consensus! Stop edit-warring, I declare! See the talkpage!" </td> <td style="width: 20px; vertical-align: bottom; border: none; color: #B2B7F2; font-size: 40px; font-family: 'Times New Roman', Times, serif; font-weight: bold; line-height: .6em; text-align: right; padding: 10px 10px;">” </td></tr> </tbody></table> <dl><dd><dl><dd>Constant accusations of "<i>edit-warring</i>" and "<i>no consensus</i>". Sounds familiar? Regards. <a href="/wiki/User:Gaba_p" title="User:Gaba p"><span style="color:blue;">Gaba</span> </a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Gaba_p" title="User talk:Gaba p"><sup style="color:green;">(talk)</sup></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Apcbg#c-Gaba_p-2013-04-13T17:14:00.000Z-Kahastok-2013-04-13T16:55:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:14, 13 April 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Gaba_p-2013-04-13T17:14:00.000Z-Kahastok-2013-04-13T16:55:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Gaba_p-2013-04-13T17:14:00.000Z-Kahastok-2013-04-13T16:55:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Kahastok-2013-04-13T19:44:00.000Z-Gaba_p-2013-04-13T17:14:00.000Z"></span>And if I had been writing massive amounts of text on the talk page, you might have a point. You have been writing massive amounts of text on the talk page. Andrés has been writing massive amounts of text on the talk page. In fact, I've been asking you both to write less. That your accusation is baseless will be obvious to anyone who so much as glances at the talk page. Your behaviour - the whole <i>waited for a valid objection</i> crap (you were given them repeatedly, you just pretended they didn't exist) - smacks far more of <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:FILIBUSTERS" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:FILIBUSTERS">WP:FILIBUSTERS</a> than anything that I, Curry Monster or Apcbg have done.</dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd>Either you haven't read <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:FILIBUSTERS" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:FILIBUSTERS">WP:FILIBUSTERS</a> (in which case you might find it illuminating - you will be surprised at how wrong you're getting it). Or you are cherry-picking parts of it in attempt to suggest that, because you started edit warring, one of the most basic rules on Wikipedia - the requirement that you get consensus for your edits - doesn't apply to you.</dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd>Nothing in <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:FILIBUSTERS" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:FILIBUSTERS">WP:FILIBUSTERS</a> prevents me or anyone else from pointing out that you do not have consensus for the edit that you are trying to force into the article. Nothing in <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:FILIBUSTERS" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:FILIBUSTERS">WP:FILIBUSTERS</a> says that edit warring can trump consensus-building as a means of editing articles. <i><a href="/wiki/User:Kahastok" title="User:Kahastok">Kahastok</a></i> <small><i><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Kahastok" title="User talk:Kahastok">talk</a></i></small> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Apcbg#c-Kahastok-2013-04-13T19:44:00.000Z-Gaba_p-2013-04-13T17:14:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:44, 13 April 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Kahastok-2013-04-13T19:44:00.000Z-Gaba_p-2013-04-13T17:14:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Kahastok-2013-04-13T19:44:00.000Z-Gaba_p-2013-04-13T17:14:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Gaba_p-2013-04-13T21:28:00.000Z-Kahastok-2013-04-13T19:44:00.000Z"></span>Sorry Jahastok but the fact that your comments pretty much limited themselves to "<i>I agree with Wee Curry Monster</i>" instead of actual content discussions (what you call "massive amounts of text") does not excuse your <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:FILIBUSTERS" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:FILIBUSTERS">filibustering</a>.</dd> <dd>I see you presented no diff for your accusation of me claiming I had consensus. Would you say your comment above contained an "<i>untrue statement</i>"? Would you say that you "<i>lied</i>"?</dd> <dd>I find it amusing how you accuse me of edit-warring when all I did was introduce a thoroughly discussed edit into the article <i>once</i> but apparently don't believe Apcbg edit-warred after reverting <u>twice</u> with no reason other than "<i>no consensus</i>". Let me be blunt: Kahastok, do you believe Apcbg edit warred?</dd> <dd>In any case, since you will just keep blocking edits with no valid reasons other that <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:IDONTLIKEIT" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:IDONTLIKEIT">WP:IDONTLIKEIT</a> I've asked another editor to open an RfC. You have dragged this issue to the point of being ridiculous. Regards. <a href="/wiki/User:Gaba_p" title="User:Gaba p"><span style="color:blue;">Gaba</span> </a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Gaba_p" title="User talk:Gaba p"><sup style="color:green;">(talk)</sup></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Apcbg#c-Gaba_p-2013-04-13T21:28:00.000Z-Kahastok-2013-04-13T19:44:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:28, 13 April 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Gaba_p-2013-04-13T21:28:00.000Z-Kahastok-2013-04-13T19:44:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Gaba_p-2013-04-13T21:28:00.000Z-Kahastok-2013-04-13T19:44:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="File:Elias-Riggs.jpg_missing_description_details" data-mw-thread-id="h-File:Elias-Riggs.jpg_missing_description_details-2013-04-14T09:13:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-File:Elias-Riggs.jpg_missing_description_details-2013-04-14T09:13:00.000Z"></span><a href="/wiki/File:Elias-Riggs.jpg" title="File:Elias-Riggs.jpg">File:Elias-Riggs.jpg</a> missing description details<span data-mw-comment-end="h-File:Elias-Riggs.jpg_missing_description_details-2013-04-14T09:13:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Apcbg&action=edit&section=132" title="Edit section: File:Elias-Riggs.jpg missing description details"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <div style="padding:5px; background-color:#E1F1DE;"><b><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Theo's_Little_Bot-2013-04-14T09:13:00.000Z-File:Elias-Riggs.jpg_missing_description_details"></span>Dear uploader:</b> The media file you uploaded as: <ul><li><a href="/wiki/File:Elias-Riggs.jpg" title="File:Elias-Riggs.jpg">File:Elias-Riggs.jpg</a></li></ul> <p>is missing a description and/or other details on its image description page. 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Thank you. <a href="/wiki/User:Theo%27s_Little_Bot" title="User:Theo's Little Bot">Theo's Little Bot</a> (<a href="/wiki/User:Theo%27s_Little_Bot#Tasks" title="User:Theo's Little Bot">error?</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Apcbg#c-Theo's_Little_Bot-2013-04-14T09:13:00.000Z-File:Elias-Riggs.jpg_missing_description_details" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:13, 14 April 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Theo's_Little_Bot-2013-04-14T09:13:00.000Z-File:Elias-Riggs.jpg_missing_description_details"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Theo's_Little_Bot-2013-04-14T09:13:00.000Z-File:Elias-Riggs.jpg_missing_description_details"></span> </div> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Please_comment" data-mw-thread-id="h-Please_comment-2013-05-10T16:28:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Please_comment-2013-05-10T16:28:00.000Z"></span>Please comment<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Please_comment-2013-05-10T16:28:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Apcbg&action=edit&section=133" title="Edit section: Please comment"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Gaba_p-2013-05-10T16:28:00.000Z-Please_comment"></span>Hi Apcbg, I'd appreciate if you could expand on <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Falkland_Islands_sovereignty_dispute&diff=prev&oldid=554172170">this comment</a> you made bearing in mind my <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Falkland_Islands_sovereignty_dispute&diff=next&oldid=554172170">followup question</a>. </p><p>Also please note that I've opened a <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Falkland_Islands_sovereignty_dispute#Timeline_of_de_facto_control">new section</a> in the talk page of that article about your rv of my edit to the timeline of <i>de facto</i> control, so I'll await your comments there too. Thanks. <a href="/wiki/User:Gaba_p" title="User:Gaba p"><span style="color:blue;">Gaba</span> </a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Gaba_p" title="User talk:Gaba p"><sup style="color:green;">(talk)</sup></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Apcbg#c-Gaba_p-2013-05-10T16:28:00.000Z-Please_comment" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:28, 10 May 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Gaba_p-2013-05-10T16:28:00.000Z-Please_comment"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Gaba_p-2013-05-10T16:28:00.000Z-Please_comment"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="COI_and_username" data-mw-thread-id="h-COI_and_username-2013-05-16T10:23:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-COI_and_username-2013-05-16T10:23:00.000Z"></span>COI and username<span data-mw-comment-end="h-COI_and_username-2013-05-16T10:23:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Apcbg&action=edit&section=134" title="Edit section: COI and username"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Widefox-2013-05-16T10:23:00.000Z-COI_and_username"></span>Hi Apcgb, I noticed your username is the same as the organisation you are involved with <a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="http://apcbg.org/">http://apcbg.org/</a> and seeking external link changes. Have you seen <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:ORGNAME" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:ORGNAME">WP:ORGNAME</a> / <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:ISU" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:ISU">WP:ISU</a> ? From your edit history you have created and edited subjects you have a personal involvement in <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:COI" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:COI">WP:COI</a>. As you have been here some time, I am not implying any wrongdoing, or requesting any action, just a heads-up. You may want to consider a full disclosure of such. <span class="vcard"><span class="fn"><a href="/wiki/User:Widefox" title="User:Widefox">Widefox</a></span>; <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Widefox" title="User talk:Widefox">talk</a></span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Apcbg#c-Widefox-2013-05-16T10:23:00.000Z-COI_and_username" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:23, 16 May 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Widefox-2013-05-16T10:23:00.000Z-COI_and_username"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Widefox-2013-05-16T10:23:00.000Z-COI_and_username"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Apcbg-2013-05-16T11:53:00.000Z-Widefox-2013-05-16T10:23:00.000Z"></span>Dear Widefox, while my username is not the same as the actual name (full or abbreviated) of any such organization, it could be changed if its similarity to that recent URL address is deemed problematic. As for my particular edits and authored articles, anyone is free to edit them in compliance with normal WP principles and guidelines – or, indeed, request their deletion if they are not up to established WP standards. I believe that WP articles ought to be judged based on their merits rather than on their contributors. Best, <a href="/wiki/User:Apcbg" title="User:Apcbg">Apcbg</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Apcbg#c-Apcbg-2013-05-16T11:53:00.000Z-Widefox-2013-05-16T10:23:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:53, 16 May 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Apcbg-2013-05-16T11:53:00.000Z-Widefox-2013-05-16T10:23:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Apcbg-2013-05-16T11:53:00.000Z-Widefox-2013-05-16T10:23:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Widefox-2013-05-16T13:22:00.000Z-Apcbg-2013-05-16T11:53:00.000Z"></span>Irrespective of an official initialism, it's hard to persuade others that its not an initialism of "Antartic Place-names Commission" <a href="/wiki/.bg" title=".bg">.bg</a>, or that Apcgb differs from apcbg.org. I have no reason to doubt it is your personal account not a group one <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:ISU" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:ISU">WP:ISU</a>. I agree about anyone can edit, and merit, but others have raised your (until-now undisclosed) COI too. You didn't mention your COI ...the "Escape, disclosure or management" may aid deciding to disclose it per "full disclosure of the connection" <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:NOPR" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:NOPR">WP:NOPR</a>. <span class="vcard"><span class="fn"><a href="/wiki/User:Widefox" title="User:Widefox">Widefox</a></span>; <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Widefox" title="User talk:Widefox">talk</a></span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Apcbg#c-Widefox-2013-05-16T13:22:00.000Z-Apcbg-2013-05-16T11:53:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:22, 16 May 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Widefox-2013-05-16T13:22:00.000Z-Apcbg-2013-05-16T11:53:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Widefox-2013-05-16T13:22:00.000Z-Apcbg-2013-05-16T11:53:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Apcbg-2013-05-16T14:28:00.000Z-Widefox-2013-05-16T13:22:00.000Z"></span>Both my personal identity and affiliation with the organization in question are confirmed in section <a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#Copyright"><i>Copyright</i></a> above. Hope that helps. <a href="/wiki/User:Apcbg" title="User:Apcbg">Apcbg</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Apcbg#c-Apcbg-2013-05-16T14:28:00.000Z-Widefox-2013-05-16T13:22:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:28, 16 May 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Apcbg-2013-05-16T14:28:00.000Z-Widefox-2013-05-16T13:22:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Apcbg-2013-05-16T14:28:00.000Z-Widefox-2013-05-16T13:22:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Widefox-2013-05-16T16:30:00.000Z-Apcbg-2013-05-16T14:28:00.000Z"></span>Great! So I guess you have no problem putting that on your userpage. In any case I won't bother you more, cheers <span class="vcard"><span class="fn"><a href="/wiki/User:Widefox" title="User:Widefox">Widefox</a></span>; <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Widefox" title="User talk:Widefox">talk</a></span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Apcbg#c-Widefox-2013-05-16T16:30:00.000Z-Apcbg-2013-05-16T14:28:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:30, 16 May 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Widefox-2013-05-16T16:30:00.000Z-Apcbg-2013-05-16T14:28:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Widefox-2013-05-16T16:30:00.000Z-Apcbg-2013-05-16T14:28:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Article_notability_notification" data-mw-thread-id="h-Article_notability_notification-2013-05-25T02:04:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Article_notability_notification-2013-05-25T02:04:00.000Z"></span>Article notability notification<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Article_notability_notification-2013-05-25T02:04:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Apcbg&action=edit&section=135" title="Edit section: Article notability notification"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-VoxelBot-2013-05-25T02:04:00.000Z-Article_notability_notification"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/2/28/Information.svg/25px-Information.svg.png" decoding="async" width="25" height="25" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/2/28/Information.svg/38px-Information.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/2/28/Information.svg/50px-Information.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="256" data-file-height="256"/></span></span> Hello. 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Thank you for editing Wikipedia! <a href="/wiki/User:VoxelBot" title="User:VoxelBot">VoxelBot</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Apcbg#c-VoxelBot-2013-05-25T02:04:00.000Z-Article_notability_notification" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">02:04, 25 May 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-VoxelBot-2013-05-25T02:04:00.000Z-Article_notability_notification"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-VoxelBot-2013-05-25T02:04:00.000Z-Article_notability_notification"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Thanks_..." data-mw-thread-id="h-Thanks_...-2013-06-04T08:27:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Thanks_...-2013-06-04T08:27:00.000Z"></span>Thanks ...<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Thanks_...-2013-06-04T08:27:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Apcbg&action=edit&section=136" title="Edit section: Thanks ..."><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Jan1nad-2013-06-04T08:27:00.000Z-Thanks_..."></span>... for catching my slip on <a href="/wiki/Las_Palmas_Glacier" title="Las Palmas Glacier">Las Palmas Glacier</a>. <a href="/wiki/User:Jan1nad" title="User:Jan1nad"><span style="color:#009d43;font-weight:bold"><i>Jan<span style="font-size:80%;">1</span>naD</i></span></a> <sup>(<i><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Jan1nad" title="User talk:Jan1nad">talk</a> • <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Jan1nad" title="Special:Contributions/Jan1nad">contrib</a></i>)</sup> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Apcbg#c-Jan1nad-2013-06-04T08:27:00.000Z-Thanks_..." class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">08:27, 4 June 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Jan1nad-2013-06-04T08:27:00.000Z-Thanks_..."><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Jan1nad-2013-06-04T08:27:00.000Z-Thanks_..."></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Apcbg-2013-06-04T10:41:00.000Z-Jan1nad-2013-06-04T08:27:00.000Z"></span>You're welcome. Best, <a href="/wiki/User:Apcbg" title="User:Apcbg">Apcbg</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Apcbg#c-Apcbg-2013-06-04T10:41:00.000Z-Jan1nad-2013-06-04T08:27:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:41, 4 June 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Apcbg-2013-06-04T10:41:00.000Z-Jan1nad-2013-06-04T08:27:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Apcbg-2013-06-04T10:41:00.000Z-Jan1nad-2013-06-04T08:27:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Falkland_Islands_-_metric_and_imperial_units" data-mw-thread-id="h-Falkland_Islands_-_metric_and_imperial_units-2013-09-04T06:25:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Falkland_Islands_-_metric_and_imperial_units-2013-09-04T06:25:00.000Z"></span>Falkland Islands - metric and imperial units<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Falkland_Islands_-_metric_and_imperial_units-2013-09-04T06:25:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Apcbg&action=edit&section=137" title="Edit section: Falkland Islands - metric and imperial units"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Martinvl-2013-09-04T06:25:00.000Z-Falkland_Islands_-_metric_and_imperial_units"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img alt="Information icon" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/1d/Information_icon4.svg/25px-Information_icon4.svg.png" decoding="async" width="25" height="25" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/1d/Information_icon4.svg/38px-Information_icon4.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/1d/Information_icon4.svg/50px-Information_icon4.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="620" data-file-height="620"/></span></span> Hello. There is currently a discussion at <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/Incidents" title="Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents">Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents</a> regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Thank you. <a href="/wiki/User:Martinvl" title="User:Martinvl">Martinvl</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Martinvl" title="User talk:Martinvl">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Apcbg#c-Martinvl-2013-09-04T06:25:00.000Z-Falkland_Islands_-_metric_and_imperial_units" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">06:25, 4 September 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Martinvl-2013-09-04T06:25:00.000Z-Falkland_Islands_-_metric_and_imperial_units"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Martinvl-2013-09-04T06:25:00.000Z-Falkland_Islands_-_metric_and_imperial_units"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Falkland_Islands" data-mw-thread-id="h-Falkland_Islands-2013-09-05T16:51:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Falkland_Islands-2013-09-05T16:51:00.000Z"></span>Falkland Islands<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Falkland_Islands-2013-09-05T16:51:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Apcbg&action=edit&section=138" title="Edit section: Falkland Islands"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Jonathunder-2013-09-05T16:51:00.000Z-Falkland_Islands"></span>I have locked the <a href="/wiki/Falkland_Islands" title="Falkland Islands">Falkland Islands</a> on your preferred version so you don't have to continue the revert war. I hope this will encourage resolution through discussion, not by trying to enforce your way. <a href="/wiki/User:Jonathunder" title="User:Jonathunder">Jonathunder</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Jonathunder" title="User talk:Jonathunder">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Apcbg#c-Jonathunder-2013-09-05T16:51:00.000Z-Falkland_Islands" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:51, 5 September 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Jonathunder-2013-09-05T16:51:00.000Z-Falkland_Islands"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Jonathunder-2013-09-05T16:51:00.000Z-Falkland_Islands"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Apcbg-2013-09-05T17:36:00.000Z-Jonathunder-2013-09-05T16:51:00.000Z"></span>Dear Jonathunder, many thanks for your gentlemanly conduct. As a matter of fact my interest and involvement in this case is not so much due to some insistence on using imperial units, but rather to my concern over the effort to impose metric units by force. Incidentally, my background is strictly metric but that is quite irrelevant from Wikipedia point of view, and neutrality furthermore dictates that the arguments of those in favour of using a mixed approach are duly respected too. That said, I am not excessively optimistic about the correct outcome of the present discussion, given the record of torrid past discussions on the same topic. <a href="/wiki/User:Apcbg" title="User:Apcbg">Apcbg</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Apcbg#c-Apcbg-2013-09-05T17:36:00.000Z-Jonathunder-2013-09-05T16:51:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:36, 5 September 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Apcbg-2013-09-05T17:36:00.000Z-Jonathunder-2013-09-05T16:51:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Apcbg-2013-09-05T17:36:00.000Z-Jonathunder-2013-09-05T16:51:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Formalising_the_status_of_WP:FALKLANDSUNITS" data-mw-thread-id="h-Formalising_the_status_of_WP:FALKLANDSUNITS-2013-09-07T04:00:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Formalising_the_status_of_WP:FALKLANDSUNITS-2013-09-07T04:00:00.000Z"></span>Formalising the status of WP:FALKLANDSUNITS<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Formalising_the_status_of_WP:FALKLANDSUNITS-2013-09-07T04:00:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Apcbg&action=edit&section=139" title="Edit section: Formalising the status of WP:FALKLANDSUNITS"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Martinvl-2013-09-07T04:00:00.000Z-Formalising_the_status_of_WP:FALKLANDSUNITS"></span>The page <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:FALKLANDSUNITS" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:FALKLANDSUNITS">WP:FALKLANDSUNITS</a> has not yet been formally adopted as an offical guideline. I have created a proposal to regularise the position. Please feel free to comment <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_South_America/Falkland_Islands_work_group/Units#Proposal_for_acceptance_as_a_formal_guideline" title="Wikipedia talk:WikiProject South America/Falkland Islands work group/Units">Wikipedia talk:WikiProject South America/Falkland Islands work group/Units#Proposal for acceptance as a formal guideline</a>. If the proposal is accepted, then the page will indeed be part of Wikipedia policy, otherwise it will be tagged a "failed proposal". <b>Either way the uncertainty that has dogged this page for the last three years will be resolved.</b> This message is being sent to every editor of good standing who has contributed <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/Incidents#User:Kahastok_is_disrupting_a_GA_attempt" title="Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents">here</a> or <a href="/wiki/Talk:Falkland_Islands#Metric_v._Imperial" title="Talk:Falkland Islands">here</a>. <a href="/wiki/User:Martinvl" title="User:Martinvl">Martinvl</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Martinvl" title="User talk:Martinvl">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Apcbg#c-Martinvl-2013-09-07T04:00:00.000Z-Formalising_the_status_of_WP:FALKLANDSUNITS" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">04:00, 7 September 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Martinvl-2013-09-07T04:00:00.000Z-Formalising_the_status_of_WP:FALKLANDSUNITS"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Martinvl-2013-09-07T04:00:00.000Z-Formalising_the_status_of_WP:FALKLANDSUNITS"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Possibly_unfree_File:Avitohol.jpg" data-mw-thread-id="h-Possibly_unfree_File:Avitohol.jpg-2013-09-14T20:24:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Possibly_unfree_File:Avitohol.jpg-2013-09-14T20:24:00.000Z"></span>Possibly unfree File:Avitohol.jpg<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Possibly_unfree_File:Avitohol.jpg-2013-09-14T20:24:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Apcbg&action=edit&section=140" title="Edit section: Possibly unfree File:Avitohol.jpg"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Stefan2-2013-09-14T20:24:00.000Z-Possibly_unfree_File:Avitohol.jpg"></span>A file that you uploaded or altered, <a href="/wiki/File:Avitohol.jpg" title="File:Avitohol.jpg">File:Avitohol.jpg</a>, has been listed at <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Possibly_unfree_files" title="Wikipedia:Possibly unfree files">Wikipedia:Possibly unfree files</a> because its copyright status is unclear or disputed. 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Thank you. <a href="/wiki/User:Stefan2" class="mw-redirect" title="User:Stefan2">Stefan2</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Stefan2" title="User talk:Stefan2">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Apcbg#c-Stefan2-2013-09-14T20:24:00.000Z-Possibly_unfree_File:Avitohol.jpg" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:24, 14 September 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Stefan2-2013-09-14T20:24:00.000Z-Possibly_unfree_File:Avitohol.jpg"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Stefan2-2013-09-14T20:24:00.000Z-Possibly_unfree_File:Avitohol.jpg"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Apcbg-2013-09-15T05:53:00.000Z-Stefan2-2013-09-14T20:24:00.000Z"></span>Fixed. <a href="/wiki/User:Apcbg" title="User:Apcbg">Apcbg</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Apcbg#c-Apcbg-2013-09-15T05:53:00.000Z-Stefan2-2013-09-14T20:24:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">05:53, 15 September 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Apcbg-2013-09-15T05:53:00.000Z-Stefan2-2013-09-14T20:24:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Apcbg-2013-09-15T05:53:00.000Z-Stefan2-2013-09-14T20:24:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Possibly_unfree_File:Aytos.jpg" data-mw-thread-id="h-Possibly_unfree_File:Aytos.jpg-2013-09-14T20:29:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Possibly_unfree_File:Aytos.jpg-2013-09-14T20:29:00.000Z"></span>Possibly unfree File:Aytos.jpg<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Possibly_unfree_File:Aytos.jpg-2013-09-14T20:29:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Apcbg&action=edit&section=141" title="Edit section: Possibly unfree File:Aytos.jpg"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Stefan2-2013-09-14T20:29:00.000Z-Possibly_unfree_File:Aytos.jpg"></span>A file that you uploaded or altered, <a href="/wiki/File:Aytos.jpg" title="File:Aytos.jpg">File:Aytos.jpg</a>, has been listed at <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Possibly_unfree_files" title="Wikipedia:Possibly unfree files">Wikipedia:Possibly unfree files</a> because its copyright status is unclear or disputed. 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Thank you. <a href="/wiki/User:Stefan2" class="mw-redirect" title="User:Stefan2">Stefan2</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Stefan2" title="User talk:Stefan2">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Apcbg#c-Stefan2-2013-09-14T20:29:00.000Z-Possibly_unfree_File:Aytos.jpg" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:29, 14 September 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Stefan2-2013-09-14T20:29:00.000Z-Possibly_unfree_File:Aytos.jpg"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Stefan2-2013-09-14T20:29:00.000Z-Possibly_unfree_File:Aytos.jpg"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Apcbg-2013-09-15T05:53:00.000Z-Stefan2-2013-09-14T20:29:00.000Z"></span>Fixed. <a href="/wiki/User:Apcbg" title="User:Apcbg">Apcbg</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Apcbg#c-Apcbg-2013-09-15T05:53:00.000Z-Stefan2-2013-09-14T20:29:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">05:53, 15 September 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Apcbg-2013-09-15T05:53:00.000Z-Stefan2-2013-09-14T20:29:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Apcbg-2013-09-15T05:53:00.000Z-Stefan2-2013-09-14T20:29:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="AN_Notice" data-mw-thread-id="h-AN_Notice-2013-09-16T21:42:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-AN_Notice-2013-09-16T21:42:00.000Z"></span>AN Notice<span data-mw-comment-end="h-AN_Notice-2013-09-16T21:42:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Apcbg&action=edit&section=142" title="Edit section: AN Notice"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Wee_Curry_Monster-2013-09-16T21:42:00.000Z-AN_Notice"></span>Hello. 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Thank you. <a href="/wiki/User:Wee_Curry_Monster" title="User:Wee Curry Monster">Wee Curry Monster</a> <small><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Wee_Curry_Monster" title="User talk:Wee Curry Monster">talk</a></small> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Apcbg#c-Wee_Curry_Monster-2013-09-16T21:42:00.000Z-AN_Notice" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:42, 16 September 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Wee_Curry_Monster-2013-09-16T21:42:00.000Z-AN_Notice"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Wee_Curry_Monster-2013-09-16T21:42:00.000Z-AN_Notice"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Falkland_Islands_award" data-mw-thread-id="h-Falkland_Islands_award-2013-11-06T03:54:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Falkland_Islands_award-2013-11-06T03:54:00.000Z"></span>Falkland Islands award<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Falkland_Islands_award-2013-11-06T03:54:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Apcbg&action=edit&section=143" title="Edit section: Falkland Islands award"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <div class="wikipediauserbox" style="float:left;border:1px solid #ff0000;margin:1px;width:238px"><table role="presentation" style="border-collapse:collapse;width:238px;margin-bottom:0;margin-top:0;background:#fff7f7;color:inherit"><tbody><tr><td style="border:0;width:45px;height:45px;background:#ff0000;text-align:center;font-size:14pt;font-weight:bold;color:black;padding:0 1px 0 0;line-height:1.25em;vertical-align:middle"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-MarshalN20-2013-11-06T03:54:00.000Z-Falkland_Islands_award"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Million_award_logo.svg" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/b6/Million_award_logo.svg/42px-Million_award_logo.svg.png" decoding="async" width="42" height="42" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/b6/Million_award_logo.svg/63px-Million_award_logo.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/b6/Million_award_logo.svg/84px-Million_award_logo.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="512" data-file-height="512"/></a></span></td><td style="border:0;text-align:left;font-size:8pt;padding:0 4px 0 4px;height:45px;line-height:1.25em;color:black;vertical-align:middle">This editor won the <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Million_Award" title="Wikipedia:Million Award">Half Million Award</a> for bringing <b><a href="/wiki/Falkland_Islands" title="Falkland Islands">Falkland Islands</a></b> to <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Good_articles" title="Wikipedia:Good articles">Good Article</a> status.</td></tr></tbody></table></div> <p>Hi Apcbg. I am sharing this with the top ten contributors of the Falkland Islands article. Congratulations.--<a href="/wiki/User:MarshalN20" title="User:MarshalN20"><span style="color:olive"><b>MarshalN20</b></span></a> | <a href="/wiki/User_talk:MarshalN20" title="User talk:MarshalN20"><sup><span style="color:maroon;"><b>T</b></span><span style="color:Silver;"><b>al</b></span><span style="color:maroon;"><b>k</b></span></sup></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Apcbg#c-MarshalN20-2013-11-06T03:54:00.000Z-Falkland_Islands_award" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">03:54, 6 November 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-MarshalN20-2013-11-06T03:54:00.000Z-Falkland_Islands_award"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-MarshalN20-2013-11-06T03:54:00.000Z-Falkland_Islands_award"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Disambiguation_link_notification_for_November_9" data-mw-thread-id="h-Disambiguation_link_notification_for_November_9-2013-11-09T09:07:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Disambiguation_link_notification_for_November_9-2013-11-09T09:07:00.000Z"></span>Disambiguation link notification for November 9<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Disambiguation_link_notification_for_November_9-2013-11-09T09:07:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Apcbg&action=edit&section=144" title="Edit section: Disambiguation link notification for November 9"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-DPL_bot-2013-11-09T09:07:00.000Z-Disambiguation_link_notification_for_November_9"></span>Hi. 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I will try and prove the community's confidence in me by editing in a productive manner and avoid entering into conflict with other editors as in the past. You may be interested to note I have just launched the article <a href="/wiki/Esteban_Mestivier" title="Esteban Mestivier">Esteban Mestivier</a> as I promised and I would welcome your input if you have a moment. <a href="/wiki/User:Wee_Curry_Monster" title="User:Wee Curry Monster">Wee Curry Monster</a> <small><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Wee_Curry_Monster" title="User talk:Wee Curry Monster">talk</a></small> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Apcbg#c-Wee_Curry_Monster-2014-02-07T21:52:00.000Z-Thank_you" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:52, 7 February 2014 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Wee_Curry_Monster-2014-02-07T21:52:00.000Z-Thank_you"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Wee_Curry_Monster-2014-02-07T21:52:00.000Z-Thank_you"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Apcbg-2014-02-10T10:46:00.000Z-Wee_Curry_Monster-2014-02-07T21:52:00.000Z"></span>Well done! Another notable Frenchman in the Falklands history would be <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="http://expedition.seaaroundus.org/expeditions/bio.php?bioKey=2&expedKey=2">Nicolas Pierre Duclos-Guyot</a>, a prominent albeit somewhat neglected French mariner (he has no article even in French Wikipedia!). Apart from his role in the establishment of Port Saint Louis, he was the captain of Bougainville’s flagship in the first French circumnavigation voyage, having also sailed before that (probably as supercargo) on the Spanish vessel León under Captain Gregorio Jerez during the second sighting of South Georgia in 1756. <a href="/wiki/User:Apcbg" title="User:Apcbg">Apcbg</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Apcbg#c-Apcbg-2014-02-10T10:46:00.000Z-Wee_Curry_Monster-2014-02-07T21:52:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:46, 10 February 2014 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Apcbg-2014-02-10T10:46:00.000Z-Wee_Curry_Monster-2014-02-07T21:52:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Apcbg-2014-02-10T10:46:00.000Z-Wee_Curry_Monster-2014-02-07T21:52:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dt>Thanks for the suggestion, will have a look at that. My next project was going to be Lt. Smith, Lt. Tyssen and Lt. 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Thanks, <a href="/wiki/User:DPL_bot" title="User:DPL bot">DPL bot</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:DPL_bot" title="User talk:DPL bot">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Apcbg#c-DPL_bot-2014-02-19T09:04:00.000Z-Disambiguation_link_notification_for_February_19" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:04, 19 February 2014 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-DPL_bot-2014-02-19T09:04:00.000Z-Disambiguation_link_notification_for_February_19"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-DPL_bot-2014-02-19T09:04:00.000Z-Disambiguation_link_notification_for_February_19"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Apcbg-2014-02-19T10:54:00.000Z-DPL_bot-2014-02-19T09:04:00.000Z"></span>Fixed. <a href="/wiki/User:Apcbg" title="User:Apcbg">Apcbg</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Apcbg#c-Apcbg-2014-02-19T10:54:00.000Z-DPL_bot-2014-02-19T09:04:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:54, 19 February 2014 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Apcbg-2014-02-19T10:54:00.000Z-DPL_bot-2014-02-19T09:04:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Apcbg-2014-02-19T10:54:00.000Z-DPL_bot-2014-02-19T09:04:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Copyedit_review" data-mw-thread-id="h-Copyedit_review-2014-03-17T12:33:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Copyedit_review-2014-03-17T12:33:00.000Z"></span>Copyedit review<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Copyedit_review-2014-03-17T12:33:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Apcbg&action=edit&section=152" title="Edit section: Copyedit review"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><a href="/wiki/User:Wee_Curry_Monster/Jos%C3%A9_Mar%C3%ADa_Pinedo" title="User:Wee Curry Monster/José María Pinedo"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Wee_Curry_Monster-2014-03-17T12:33:00.000Z-Copyedit_review"></span>User:Wee Curry Monster/José María Pinedo</a> Would appreciate you casting an eye over it before I publish in mainspace. Regards, <a href="/wiki/User:Wee_Curry_Monster" title="User:Wee Curry Monster">Wee Curry Monster</a> <small><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Wee_Curry_Monster" title="User talk:Wee Curry Monster">talk</a></small> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Apcbg#c-Wee_Curry_Monster-2014-03-17T12:33:00.000Z-Copyedit_review" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:33, 17 March 2014 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Wee_Curry_Monster-2014-03-17T12:33:00.000Z-Copyedit_review"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Wee_Curry_Monster-2014-03-17T12:33:00.000Z-Copyedit_review"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Apcbg-2014-03-17T17:16:00.000Z-Wee_Curry_Monster-2014-03-17T12:33:00.000Z"></span>Dear Wee, your article is exemplary, congratulations!</dd></dl> <dl><dd>I noted a trace of inconsistency in the paragraph on Pinedo's preparations for a possible resistance to the British takeover: “A large number of his crew were British mercenaries who were unwilling to fight their own countrymen ... Pinedo also prepared the ship and spoke to the crew who indicated their willingness to fight.” Apparently this originates to Destéfani's book (p. 90) which says “... the majority of his crew were Englishmen, with only a few Argentines. ... He talked to all of them, the British said that they would carry out their duty ... but refused to fight.” and then in the very next sentence, “... the 80-men crew said they would do what they were told.” Perhaps this point could be streamlined somehow?</dd></dl> <dl><dd>By the way, the name “William Brown” caught my eye; the article on Admiral Brown is indeed titled “William Brown (admiral),” and I wonder if it shouldn't rather be “Guillermo Brown (admiral)” as he is probably better known? Best, <a href="/wiki/User:Apcbg" title="User:Apcbg">Apcbg</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Apcbg#c-Apcbg-2014-03-17T17:16:00.000Z-Wee_Curry_Monster-2014-03-17T12:33:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:16, 17 March 2014 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Apcbg-2014-03-17T17:16:00.000Z-Wee_Curry_Monster-2014-03-17T12:33:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Apcbg-2014-03-17T17:16:00.000Z-Wee_Curry_Monster-2014-03-17T12:33:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd>The comment about mercenaries I think is actually from Escude, it is however contradicted by Destefani's account and Elliot's witness statement at Pinedo's trial. I will do some copy editing over the weekend to address this. Regards, <a href="/wiki/User:Wee_Curry_Monster" title="User:Wee Curry Monster">Wee Curry Monster</a> <small><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Wee_Curry_Monster" title="User talk:Wee Curry Monster">talk</a></small></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Heads" data-mw-thread-id="h-Heads-2014-06-01T15:49:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Heads-2014-06-01T15:49:00.000Z"></span>Heads<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Heads-2014-06-01T15:49:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Apcbg&action=edit&section=153" title="Edit section: Heads"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><a class="external autonumber" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Files_for_deletion/2014_June_1#File:Col_Jos.C3.A9_Mar.C3.ADa_Pinedo.jpg"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Wee_Curry_Monster-2014-06-01T15:49:00.000Z-Heads"></span>[15]</a> Bringing this to your attention, seems to be some really petty BS going on. <span style="border:1px solid black;padding:1px;"><a href="/wiki/User:Wee_Curry_Monster" title="User:Wee Curry Monster">W</a><a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Wee_Curry_Monster" title="Special:Contributions/Wee Curry Monster">C</a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Wee_Curry_Monster" title="User talk:Wee Curry Monster">M</a></span><sub><a href="/wiki/Special:EmailUser/Wee_Curry_Monster" title="Special:EmailUser/Wee Curry Monster">email</a></sub> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Apcbg#c-Wee_Curry_Monster-2014-06-01T15:49:00.000Z-Heads" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:49, 1 June 2014 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" 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Ако имате възможност наглеждайте тези потребители, те са тук постоянно и са непрекъснато активни: </p> <ul><li>Cplakidas – действа навсякъде и се опитва да принизи всичко Българско виж страницата Rus Invasion of Bulgaria и Byzantine Bulgarian Wars 970-1018</li> <li>Dr.K – същия като Cplakidas, обикновенно действат заедно</li> <li>Tourbillon – истински българомразец, съботира всичко Българско иска да премахне връзката между днешна България и старите царства, кирилицата не е Бългрска и прочее. Само вижте talk на страницата на България.</li> <li>Future Perfect at Sunrise – същия като тourbillon</li> <li>Chipmunkdavis – същия като тourbillon</li> <li>Jingiby – същия като тourbillon</li></ul> <p>Разпрострянявайте този списък, за да се знаят тези. <small><span class="autosigned">— Preceding <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Signatures" title="Wikipedia:Signatures">unsigned</a> comment added by <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Zoomzoom34&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Zoomzoom34 (page does not exist)">Zoomzoom34</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Zoomzoom34" title="User talk:Zoomzoom34">talk</a> • <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Zoomzoom34" title="Special:Contributions/Zoomzoom34">contribs</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Apcbg#c-Zoomzoom34-2014-08-31T21:22:00.000Z-Да_се_знае" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:22, 31 August 2014 (UTC)</a></span></small><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Zoomzoom34-2014-08-31T21:22:00.000Z-Да_се_знае"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Zoomzoom34-2014-08-31T21:22:00.000Z-Да_се_знае"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Proposed_deletion_of_Ash_Point" data-mw-thread-id="h-Proposed_deletion_of_Ash_Point-2014-10-01T15:49:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Proposed_deletion_of_Ash_Point-2014-10-01T15:49:00.000Z"></span>Proposed deletion of Ash Point<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Proposed_deletion_of_Ash_Point-2014-10-01T15:49:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Apcbg&action=edit&section=156" title="Edit section: Proposed deletion of Ash Point"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-HCPUNXKID-2014-10-01T15:49:00.000Z-Proposed_deletion_of_Ash_Point"></span><figure class="mw-halign-left" typeof="mw:File"><span><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/7/74/Ambox_warning_yellow.svg/48px-Ambox_warning_yellow.svg.png" decoding="async" width="48" height="42" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/7/74/Ambox_warning_yellow.svg/72px-Ambox_warning_yellow.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/7/74/Ambox_warning_yellow.svg/96px-Ambox_warning_yellow.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="386" data-file-height="334"/></span><figcaption></figcaption></figure> <p>The article <a href="/wiki/Ash_Point" title="Ash Point">Ash Point</a> has been <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Proposed_deletion" title="Wikipedia:Proposed deletion">proposed for deletion</a> because of the following concern: </p> <dl><dd><b>A search for references failed to find significant coverage in reliable sources to comply with notability requirements. 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Thanks, <a href="/wiki/User:DPL_bot" title="User:DPL bot">DPL bot</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:DPL_bot" title="User talk:DPL bot">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Apcbg#c-DPL_bot-2015-10-18T09:35:00.000Z-Disambiguation_link_notification_for_October_18" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:35, 18 October 2015 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-DPL_bot-2015-10-18T09:35:00.000Z-Disambiguation_link_notification_for_October_18"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-DPL_bot-2015-10-18T09:35:00.000Z-Disambiguation_link_notification_for_October_18"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Apcbg-2015-10-18T10:03:00.000Z-DPL_bot-2015-10-18T09:35:00.000Z"></span>Fixed. <a href="/wiki/User:Apcbg" title="User:Apcbg">Apcbg</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Apcbg#c-Apcbg-2015-10-18T10:03:00.000Z-DPL_bot-2015-10-18T09:35:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:03, 18 October 2015 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Apcbg-2015-10-18T10:03:00.000Z-DPL_bot-2015-10-18T09:35:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Apcbg-2015-10-18T10:03:00.000Z-DPL_bot-2015-10-18T09:35:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="New_categories" data-mw-thread-id="h-New_categories-2015-11-19T15:41:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-New_categories-2015-11-19T15:41:00.000Z"></span>New categories<span data-mw-comment-end="h-New_categories-2015-11-19T15:41:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Apcbg&action=edit&section=160" title="Edit section: New categories"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Swpb-2015-11-19T15:41:00.000Z-New_categories"></span>When you create new categories like <a href="/wiki/Category:Thurston_Island_geography_stubs" title="Category:Thurston Island geography stubs">Category:Thurston_Island_geography_stubs</a>, <a href="/wiki/Category:Deception_Island_geography_stubs" title="Category:Deception Island geography stubs">Category:Deception_Island_geography_stubs</a>, and <a href="/wiki/Category:Elephant_Island_geography_stubs" title="Category:Elephant Island geography stubs">Category:Elephant_Island_geography_stubs</a>, please add them to appropriate parent categories. Otherwise, no one will be able to find them. <i><b>—<a href="/wiki/User:Swpb" title="User:Swpb">Swpb</a><sup><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Swpb" title="User talk:Swpb">talk</a></sup></b></i> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Apcbg#c-Swpb-2015-11-19T15:41:00.000Z-New_categories" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:41, 19 November 2015 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Swpb-2015-11-19T15:41:00.000Z-New_categories"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Swpb-2015-11-19T15:41:00.000Z-New_categories"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Apcbg-2015-11-19T16:55:00.000Z-Swpb-2015-11-19T15:41:00.000Z"></span>Dear Swpb, sorry for the omission and thank you for reminding me. Best, <a href="/wiki/User:Apcbg" title="User:Apcbg">Apcbg</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Apcbg#c-Apcbg-2015-11-19T16:55:00.000Z-Swpb-2015-11-19T15:41:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:55, 19 November 2015 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Apcbg-2015-11-19T16:55:00.000Z-Swpb-2015-11-19T15:41:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Apcbg-2015-11-19T16:55:00.000Z-Swpb-2015-11-19T15:41:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="ArbCom_elections_are_now_open!" data-mw-thread-id="h-ArbCom_elections_are_now_open!-2015-11-23T13:43:00.000Z"><span id="ArbCom_elections_are_now_open.21"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-ArbCom_elections_are_now_open!-2015-11-23T13:43:00.000Z"></span><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:ACE2015" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:ACE2015">ArbCom elections are now open!</a><span data-mw-comment-end="h-ArbCom_elections_are_now_open!-2015-11-23T13:43:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Apcbg&action=edit&section=161" title="Edit section: ArbCom elections are now open!"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-MediaWiki_message_delivery-2015-11-23T13:43:00.000Z-ArbCom_elections_are_now_open!"></span>Hi,<br/> You appear to be eligible to vote in the current <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:ACE2015" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:ACE2015">Arbitration Committee election</a>. The <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:ARBCOM" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:ARBCOM">Arbitration Committee</a> is the panel of editors responsible for conducting the Wikipedia <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:RFAR" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:RFAR">arbitration process</a>. It has the authority to enact binding solutions for disputes between editors, primarily related to serious behavioural issues that the community has been unable to resolve. This includes the ability to impose <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:BAN" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:BAN">site bans</a>, <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:TBAN" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:TBAN">topic bans</a>, editing restrictions, and other measures needed to maintain our editing environment. The <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:ARBPOL" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:ARBPOL">arbitration policy</a> describes the Committee's roles and responsibilities in greater detail. If you wish to participate, you are welcome to <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:ACE2015/C" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:ACE2015/C">review the candidates' statements</a> and submit your choices on <a href="/wiki/Special:SecurePoll/vote/398" title="Special:SecurePoll/vote/398">the voting page</a>. For the Election committee, <a href="/wiki/User:MediaWiki_message_delivery" title="User:MediaWiki message delivery">MediaWiki message delivery</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:MediaWiki_message_delivery" title="User talk:MediaWiki message delivery">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Apcbg#c-MediaWiki_message_delivery-2015-11-23T13:43:00.000Z-ArbCom_elections_are_now_open!" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:43, 23 November 2015 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-MediaWiki_message_delivery-2015-11-23T13:43:00.000Z-ArbCom_elections_are_now_open!"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-MediaWiki_message_delivery-2015-11-23T13:43:00.000Z-ArbCom_elections_are_now_open!"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Proposed_deletion_of_Kingdom_of_Balhara" data-mw-thread-id="h-Proposed_deletion_of_Kingdom_of_Balhara-2015-11-25T23:25:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Proposed_deletion_of_Kingdom_of_Balhara-2015-11-25T23:25:00.000Z"></span>Proposed deletion of Kingdom of Balhara<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Proposed_deletion_of_Kingdom_of_Balhara-2015-11-25T23:25:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Apcbg&action=edit&section=162" title="Edit section: Proposed deletion of Kingdom of Balhara"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Crovata-2015-11-25T23:25:00.000Z-Proposed_deletion_of_Kingdom_of_Balhara"></span><figure class="mw-halign-left" typeof="mw:File"><span><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/7/74/Ambox_warning_yellow.svg/48px-Ambox_warning_yellow.svg.png" decoding="async" width="48" height="42" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/7/74/Ambox_warning_yellow.svg/72px-Ambox_warning_yellow.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/7/74/Ambox_warning_yellow.svg/96px-Ambox_warning_yellow.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="386" data-file-height="334"/></span><figcaption></figcaption></figure> <p>The article <a href="/w/index.php?title=Kingdom_of_Balhara&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Kingdom of Balhara (page does not exist)">Kingdom of Balhara</a> has been <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Proposed_deletion" title="Wikipedia:Proposed deletion">proposed for deletion</a> because of the following concern: </p> <dl><dd><b>Kingdom of Balhara is a fringe theory by some Bulgarian scholars. Theory was not given any discussion, support or prominence in mainstream or international scholarship. Theory having its own article on Wikipedia is given notability which does not deserve. Also, the article since January 2008 has the tag for reference improvements, but there was not any, resulting that most of the text lacks source and had extensive <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:OR" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:OR">WP:OR</a> claims.</b></dd></dl> <p>While all constructive contributions to Wikipedia are appreciated, content or articles may be <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:DEL#REASON" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:DEL">deleted for any of several reasons</a>. </p><p>You may prevent the proposed deletion by removing the <span class="nowrap"><code>{{proposed deletion/dated}}</code></span> notice, but please explain why in your <a href="/wiki/Help:Edit_summary" title="Help:Edit summary">edit summary</a> or on <a href="/w/index.php?title=Talk:Kingdom_of_Balhara&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Talk:Kingdom of Balhara (page does not exist)">the article's talk page</a>. </p><p>Please consider improving the article to address the issues raised. Removing <span class="nowrap"><code>{{proposed deletion/dated}}</code></span> will stop the <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Proposed_deletion" title="Wikipedia:Proposed deletion">proposed deletion process</a>, but other <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Deletion_process" title="Wikipedia:Deletion process">deletion processes</a> exist. In particular, the <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Criteria_for_speedy_deletion" title="Wikipedia:Criteria for speedy deletion">speedy deletion</a> process can result in deletion without discussion, and <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion" title="Wikipedia:Articles for deletion">articles for deletion</a> allows discussion to reach <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Consensus" title="Wikipedia:Consensus">consensus</a> for deletion. <a href="/wiki/User:Crovata" title="User:Crovata">Crovata</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Crovata" title="User talk:Crovata">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Apcbg#c-Crovata-2015-11-25T23:25:00.000Z-Proposed_deletion_of_Kingdom_of_Balhara" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:25, 25 November 2015 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Crovata-2015-11-25T23:25:00.000Z-Proposed_deletion_of_Kingdom_of_Balhara"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Crovata-2015-11-25T23:25:00.000Z-Proposed_deletion_of_Kingdom_of_Balhara"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="First_Bulgarian_Empire_Map" data-mw-thread-id="h-First_Bulgarian_Empire_Map-2016-01-22T14:28:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-First_Bulgarian_Empire_Map-2016-01-22T14:28:00.000Z"></span>First Bulgarian Empire Map<span data-mw-comment-end="h-First_Bulgarian_Empire_Map-2016-01-22T14:28:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Apcbg&action=edit&section=163" title="Edit section: First Bulgarian Empire Map"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-LeBoko-2016-01-22T14:28:00.000Z-First_Bulgarian_Empire_Map"></span>As you're an expert in Bulgarian history, I'd like to invite you for an opinion on the map of the First Bulgarian Empire. The map that has been there for years is being replaced with a version that claims that Bulgaria's northern border was in practice the Danube with inconsistent control north of the Danube without any supporting evidence. Would you kindly add your opinion on the matter? <small><span class="autosigned">— Preceding <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Signatures" title="Wikipedia:Signatures">unsigned</a> comment added by <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:LeBoko&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:LeBoko (page does not exist)">LeBoko</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:LeBoko" title="User talk:LeBoko">talk</a> • <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/LeBoko" title="Special:Contributions/LeBoko">contribs</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Apcbg#c-LeBoko-2016-01-22T14:28:00.000Z-First_Bulgarian_Empire_Map" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:28, 22 January 2016 (UTC)</a></span></small><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-LeBoko-2016-01-22T14:28:00.000Z-First_Bulgarian_Empire_Map"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-LeBoko-2016-01-22T14:28:00.000Z-First_Bulgarian_Empire_Map"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Apcbg-2016-01-22T18:48:00.000Z-LeBoko-2016-01-22T14:28:00.000Z"></span>Thanks for your note; done. <a href="/wiki/User:Apcbg" title="User:Apcbg">Apcbg</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Apcbg#c-Apcbg-2016-01-22T18:48:00.000Z-LeBoko-2016-01-22T14:28:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:48, 22 January 2016 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Apcbg-2016-01-22T18:48:00.000Z-LeBoko-2016-01-22T14:28:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Apcbg-2016-01-22T18:48:00.000Z-LeBoko-2016-01-22T14:28:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Srebŭrna/Srebarna/Sreburna_Glacier" data-mw-thread-id="h-Srebŭrna/Srebarna/Sreburna_Glacier-2016-02-05T23:20:00.000Z"><span id="Sreb.C5.ADrna.2FSrebarna.2FSreburna_Glacier"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Srebŭrna/Srebarna/Sreburna_Glacier-2016-02-05T23:20:00.000Z"></span>Srebŭrna/Srebarna/Sreburna Glacier<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Srebŭrna/Srebarna/Sreburna_Glacier-2016-02-05T23:20:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Apcbg&action=edit&section=164" title="Edit section: Srebŭrna/Srebarna/Sreburna Glacier"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Lemnaminor-2016-02-05T23:20:00.000Z-Srebŭrna/Srebarna/Sreburna_Glacier"></span>Hi <a href="/wiki/User:Apcbg" title="User:Apcbg">Apcbg</a>, </p><p>One your Antarctica articles is on the Srebŭrna/Sreburna/<a href="/wiki/Srebarna_Glacier" title="Srebarna Glacier">Srebarna Glacier</a>. "Srebŭrna" is the current spelling in the USGS gazetteer, but I am wondering: is that the proper way to spell it? </p><p>Thanks! --<a href="/wiki/User:Lemnaminor" title="User:Lemnaminor">Lemnaminor</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Lemnaminor" title="User talk:Lemnaminor">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Apcbg#c-Lemnaminor-2016-02-05T23:20:00.000Z-Srebŭrna/Srebarna/Sreburna_Glacier" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:20, 5 February 2016 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Lemnaminor-2016-02-05T23:20:00.000Z-Srebŭrna/Srebarna/Sreburna_Glacier"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Lemnaminor-2016-02-05T23:20:00.000Z-Srebŭrna/Srebarna/Sreburna_Glacier"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Apcbg-2016-02-06T10:05:00.000Z-Lemnaminor-2016-02-05T23:20:00.000Z"></span>Dear Lemnaminor, no 'Srebŭrna' is not the proper way. That's the transliterated form of Bulgarian 'Сребърна' according to the old transliteration system used by USBGN until 2013. Now the system <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="http://geonames.nga.mil/gns/html/Romanization/Romanization_Bulgarian.pdf">adopted for official US use</a> is the official Bulgarian system, so the correct form would be 'Srebarna.' Best, <a href="/wiki/User:Apcbg" title="User:Apcbg">Apcbg</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Apcbg#c-Apcbg-2016-02-06T10:05:00.000Z-Lemnaminor-2016-02-05T23:20:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:05, 6 February 2016 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Apcbg-2016-02-06T10:05:00.000Z-Lemnaminor-2016-02-05T23:20:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Apcbg-2016-02-06T10:05:00.000Z-Lemnaminor-2016-02-05T23:20:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Lemnaminor-2016-02-06T11:08:00.000Z-Apcbg-2016-02-06T10:05:00.000Z"></span>That is good to know! I ran into quite a few issues like these with place names in other languages in the USGS gazetteer. I might get back to you with some more Bulgarian spelling questions. Thanks again, <a href="/wiki/User:Lemnaminor" title="User:Lemnaminor">Lemnaminor</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Lemnaminor" title="User talk:Lemnaminor">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Apcbg#c-Lemnaminor-2016-02-06T11:08:00.000Z-Apcbg-2016-02-06T10:05:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:08, 6 February 2016 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Lemnaminor-2016-02-06T11:08:00.000Z-Apcbg-2016-02-06T10:05:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Lemnaminor-2016-02-06T11:08:00.000Z-Apcbg-2016-02-06T10:05:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Apcbg-2016-02-06T13:51:00.000Z-Lemnaminor-2016-02-06T11:08:00.000Z"></span>You are welcome. <a href="/wiki/User:Apcbg" title="User:Apcbg">Apcbg</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Apcbg#c-Apcbg-2016-02-06T13:51:00.000Z-Lemnaminor-2016-02-06T11:08:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:51, 6 February 2016 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Apcbg-2016-02-06T13:51:00.000Z-Lemnaminor-2016-02-06T11:08:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Apcbg-2016-02-06T13:51:00.000Z-Lemnaminor-2016-02-06T11:08:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Bulgaria_-_Infobox" data-mw-thread-id="h-Bulgaria_-_Infobox-2016-02-12T14:08:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Bulgaria_-_Infobox-2016-02-12T14:08:00.000Z"></span>Bulgaria - Infobox<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Bulgaria_-_Infobox-2016-02-12T14:08:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Apcbg&action=edit&section=165" title="Edit section: Bulgaria - Infobox"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Veliko3-2016-02-12T14:08:00.000Z-Bulgaria_-_Infobox"></span>Hi Apcbg, As you're an expert in Bulgarian history, I'd like to invite you for an opinion on an Bulgaria Infobox improvement <a href="/wiki/Talk:Bulgaria#Infobox_proposal" title="Talk:Bulgaria">suggestion</a>: <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Veliko3&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Veliko3 (page does not exist)">Veliko3</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Veliko3" title="User talk:Veliko3">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Apcbg#c-Veliko3-2016-02-12T14:08:00.000Z-Bulgaria_-_Infobox" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:08, 12 February 2016 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Veliko3-2016-02-12T14:08:00.000Z-Bulgaria_-_Infobox"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Veliko3-2016-02-12T14:08:00.000Z-Bulgaria_-_Infobox"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="February_2016" data-mw-thread-id="h-February_2016-2016-02-19T16:28:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-February_2016-2016-02-19T16:28:00.000Z"></span>February 2016<span data-mw-comment-end="h-February_2016-2016-02-19T16:28:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Apcbg&action=edit&section=166" title="Edit section: February 2016"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Diannaa-2016-02-19T16:28:00.000Z-February_2016"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Information.svg" class="mw-file-description"><img alt="Information icon" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/2/28/Information.svg/25px-Information.svg.png" decoding="async" width="25" height="25" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/2/28/Information.svg/38px-Information.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/2/28/Information.svg/50px-Information.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="256" data-file-height="256"/></a></span> Hi, and thank you for <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Apcbg" title="Special:Contributions/Apcbg">your contributions</a> to Wikipedia. It appears that you tried to give <a href="/wiki/Army_of_the_Republic_of_Bulgaria" class="mw-redirect" title="Army of the Republic of Bulgaria">Army of the Republic of Bulgaria</a> a different title by copying its content and pasting either the same content, or an edited version of it, into another page with a different name. This is known as a "<a href="/wiki/Cut-and-paste" class="mw-redirect" title="Cut-and-paste">cut-and-paste</a> move", and it is undesirable because it splits the <a href="/wiki/Help:Page_history" title="Help:Page history">page history</a>, which is <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Copying_within_Wikipedia" title="Wikipedia:Copying within Wikipedia">legally required for attribution</a>. Instead, the software used by Wikipedia has a feature that allows pages to be <i>moved</i> to a new title together with their edit history. </p><p>In most cases, once your account is <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Autoconfirmed" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:Autoconfirmed">four days old and has ten edits</a>, you should be able to move an article yourself using the <a href="/wiki/Help:Moving_a_page" class="mw-redirect" title="Help:Moving a page">"Move" tab</a> at the top of the page (the tab may be <a href="/wiki/File:Vector_hidden_move_button.jpg" title="File:Vector hidden move button.jpg">hidden in a dropdown menu</a> for you). This both preserves the page history intact and automatically creates a <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Redirect" title="Wikipedia:Redirect">redirect</a> from the old title to the new. If you cannot perform a particular page move yourself this way (e.g. because a page already exists at the target title), please follow the instructions at <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Requested_moves" title="Wikipedia:Requested moves">requested moves</a> to have it moved by someone else. Also, if there are any other pages that you moved by copying and pasting, even if it was a long time ago, please list them at <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Requests_for_history_merge" title="Wikipedia:Requests for history merge">Wikipedia:Requests for history merge</a>. Thank you. — <a href="/wiki/User:Diannaa" title="User:Diannaa">Diannaa</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Diannaa" title="User talk:Diannaa">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Apcbg#c-Diannaa-2016-02-19T16:28:00.000Z-February_2016" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:28, 19 February 2016 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Diannaa-2016-02-19T16:28:00.000Z-February_2016"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Diannaa-2016-02-19T16:28:00.000Z-February_2016"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Apcbg-2016-02-19T16:51:00.000Z-Diannaa-2016-02-19T16:28:00.000Z"></span>True; the target name had already been taken, needed speedy deletion instead. <a href="/wiki/User:Apcbg" title="User:Apcbg">Apcbg</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Apcbg#c-Apcbg-2016-02-19T16:51:00.000Z-Diannaa-2016-02-19T16:28:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:51, 19 February 2016 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Apcbg-2016-02-19T16:51:00.000Z-Diannaa-2016-02-19T16:28:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Apcbg-2016-02-19T16:51:00.000Z-Diannaa-2016-02-19T16:28:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Falkland_Islands_Sovereignty_Dispute_~_Clarification" data-mw-thread-id="h-Falkland_Islands_Sovereignty_Dispute_~_Clarification-2016-03-30T10:51:00.000Z"><span id="Falkland_Islands_Sovereignty_Dispute_.7E_Clarification"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Falkland_Islands_Sovereignty_Dispute_~_Clarification-2016-03-30T10:51:00.000Z"></span>Falkland Islands Sovereignty Dispute ~ Clarification<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Falkland_Islands_Sovereignty_Dispute_~_Clarification-2016-03-30T10:51:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Apcbg&action=edit&section=167" title="Edit section: Falkland Islands Sovereignty Dispute ~ Clarification"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-ESND-2016-03-30T10:51:00.000Z-Falkland_Islands_Sovereignty_Dispute_~_Clarification"></span>Hello, I have seen you have removed my recent contribution to the subject. I previously added it to the <a href="/wiki/Falkland_Islands" title="Falkland Islands">Falkland Islands</a> article and it was removed as it was apparently not deemed to be in the right place and was considered misreported. I then added it in the <a href="/wiki/Falkland_Islands_sovereignty_dispute" title="Falkland Islands sovereignty dispute">Falkland Islands sovereignty dispute</a>, with some balancing information and you removed it. However, my contribution was referencing original (UN) sources, in addition to the news media reporting the information. If you felt that the information was still misrepresented I understand that the normal practice on Wikipedia is to add balancing information rather than removing it outright. So I would ask you to do just that. I will repost my contribution, as I feel it is the right place and it is a useful piece of information for any user visiting that page, and I would encourage you to counterbalance that information if you personally feel it is not accurate. </p><p>Thank you. ESND (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:ESND" title="User talk:ESND">talk</a>), 30 March 2016 <small class="autosigned">—Preceding <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Signatures" title="Wikipedia:Signatures">undated</a> comment added <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Apcbg#c-ESND-2016-03-30T10:51:00.000Z-Falkland_Islands_Sovereignty_Dispute_~_Clarification" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:51, 30 March 2016 (UTC)</a></small><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-ESND-2016-03-30T10:51:00.000Z-Falkland_Islands_Sovereignty_Dispute_~_Clarification"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-ESND-2016-03-30T10:51:00.000Z-Falkland_Islands_Sovereignty_Dispute_~_Clarification"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Apcbg-2016-03-30T11:22:00.000Z-ESND-2016-03-30T10:51:00.000Z"></span>My edit was explained in the article's talk page discussion, which is the right place for relevant comments. Rather than edit warring, please remove your contribution unless agreed on that talk page. <a href="/wiki/User:Apcbg" title="User:Apcbg">Apcbg</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Apcbg#c-Apcbg-2016-03-30T11:22:00.000Z-ESND-2016-03-30T10:51:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:22, 30 March 2016 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Apcbg-2016-03-30T11:22:00.000Z-ESND-2016-03-30T10:51:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Apcbg-2016-03-30T11:22:00.000Z-ESND-2016-03-30T10:51:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-ESND-2016-03-30T13:40:00.000Z-Apcbg-2016-03-30T11:22:00.000Z"></span>Agree, I have removed my edit and posted a comment in the article's talk page. Thank you - <a href="/wiki/User:ESND" title="User:ESND">ESND</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:ESND" title="User talk:ESND">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Apcbg#c-ESND-2016-03-30T13:40:00.000Z-Apcbg-2016-03-30T11:22:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:40, 30 March 2016 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-ESND-2016-03-30T13:40:00.000Z-Apcbg-2016-03-30T11:22:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-ESND-2016-03-30T13:40:00.000Z-Apcbg-2016-03-30T11:22:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Apcbg-2016-03-30T14:45:00.000Z-ESND-2016-03-30T13:40:00.000Z"></span>Thanks, I appreciate your constructive attitude indeed. Best, <a href="/wiki/User:Apcbg" title="User:Apcbg">Apcbg</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Apcbg#c-Apcbg-2016-03-30T14:45:00.000Z-ESND-2016-03-30T13:40:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:45, 30 March 2016 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Apcbg-2016-03-30T14:45:00.000Z-ESND-2016-03-30T13:40:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Apcbg-2016-03-30T14:45:00.000Z-ESND-2016-03-30T13:40:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Invitation_to_discuss_on_Wikipedia:Naming_conventions_(Cyrillic)" data-mw-thread-id="h-Invitation_to_discuss_on_Wikipedia:Naming_conventions_(Cyrillic)-2016-04-05T13:23:00.000Z"><span id="Invitation_to_discuss_on_Wikipedia:Naming_conventions_.28Cyrillic.29"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Invitation_to_discuss_on_Wikipedia:Naming_conventions_(Cyrillic)-2016-04-05T13:23:00.000Z"></span>Invitation to discuss on Wikipedia:Naming conventions (Cyrillic)<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Invitation_to_discuss_on_Wikipedia:Naming_conventions_(Cyrillic)-2016-04-05T13:23:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Apcbg&action=edit&section=168" title="Edit section: Invitation to discuss on Wikipedia:Naming conventions (Cyrillic)"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Manaviko-2016-04-05T13:23:00.000Z-Invitation_to_discuss_on_Wikipedia:Naming_conventions_(Cyrillic)"></span>Hello! As there is already <b>an only proposed Wikipedia guideline</b> on naming conventions (Cyrillic). The proposal is still in development, under discussion and needs of gathering consensus for adoption. Since I am well experienced on this subject, I would like to criticize the official transliteration of Bulgarian as it gives too many errors, which also causes some losses of sounds “ǎ (a hacek”), decentralise itself from other slavic languages (“c” and “š” voices), which is also conflicting in itself (see street signs <a class="external text" href="https://tr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bulgarcan%C4%B1n_romanizasyonu#/media/File:Ulica_Presviter_Grigorij,_a_street_name_in_Varna,_August_2014.jpg">1</a> and <a class="external text" href="https://tr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bulgarcan%C4%B1n_romanizasyonu#/media/File:Bulevar_P._Karavelov,_Varna,_August_2014.JPG">2</a>). By this revision, it is away from being accurate and not able to satisfy the needs of an encyclopedia which claims to be scientifical. These are the reasons I invite you to read <a href="/wiki/Scientific_transliteration_of_Cyrillic" title="Scientific transliteration of Cyrillic">Scientific transliteration of Cyrillic</a> and involve the discussion in order to contribute a possible concensus. 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It's malfunctioning, yes (though not doing any actual damage). That's what the disable link on its user page is for (it has been already disabled since then). <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Nyuszika7H&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Nyuszika7H (page does not exist)">nyuszika7h</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Nyuszika7H" class="mw-redirect" title="User talk:Nyuszika7H">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Apcbg#c-Nyuszika7H-2016-07-21T19:39:00.000Z-InternetArchiveBot" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:39, 21 July 2016 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Nyuszika7H-2016-07-21T19:39:00.000Z-InternetArchiveBot"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Nyuszika7H-2016-07-21T19:39:00.000Z-InternetArchiveBot"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Apcbg-2016-08-05T10:11:00.000Z-Nyuszika7H-2016-07-21T19:39:00.000Z"></span>Yeah, malfunctioning resulting in hundreds – on my Watchlist alone – of erroneous edits (actual damage par excellence) needing manual fixes ... a lot of time wasted. <a href="/wiki/User:Apcbg" title="User:Apcbg">Apcbg</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Apcbg#c-Apcbg-2016-08-05T10:11:00.000Z-Nyuszika7H-2016-07-21T19:39:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:11, 5 August 2016 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Apcbg-2016-08-05T10:11:00.000Z-Nyuszika7H-2016-07-21T19:39:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Apcbg-2016-08-05T10:11:00.000Z-Nyuszika7H-2016-07-21T19:39:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="ArbCom_Elections_2016:_Voting_now_open!" data-mw-thread-id="h-ArbCom_Elections_2016:_Voting_now_open!-2016-11-21T22:08:00.000Z"><span id="ArbCom_Elections_2016:_Voting_now_open.21"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-ArbCom_Elections_2016:_Voting_now_open!-2016-11-21T22:08:00.000Z"></span><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:ACE2016" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:ACE2016">ArbCom Elections 2016</a>: Voting now open!<span data-mw-comment-end="h-ArbCom_Elections_2016:_Voting_now_open!-2016-11-21T22:08:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Apcbg&action=edit&section=175" title="Edit section: ArbCom Elections 2016: Voting now open!"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-MediaWiki_message_delivery-2016-11-21T22:08:00.000Z-ArbCom_Elections_2016:_Voting_now_open!"></span><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1256334245"><div class="ivmbox" style=""> <div class="ivmbox-image" style="flex-basis: 40px"><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Scale_of_justice_2.svg" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/0e/Scale_of_justice_2.svg/40px-Scale_of_justice_2.svg.png" decoding="async" width="40" height="41" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/0e/Scale_of_justice_2.svg/60px-Scale_of_justice_2.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/0e/Scale_of_justice_2.svg/80px-Scale_of_justice_2.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="204" data-file-height="208"/></a></span></div> <div class="ivmbox-text"> <p>Hello, Apcbg. 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Thanks, <a href="/wiki/User:DPL_bot" title="User:DPL bot">DPL bot</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:DPL_bot" title="User talk:DPL bot">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Apcbg#c-DPL_bot-2017-12-14T18:04:00.000Z-Disambiguation_link_notification_for_December_14" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:04, 14 December 2017 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-DPL_bot-2017-12-14T18:04:00.000Z-Disambiguation_link_notification_for_December_14"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-DPL_bot-2017-12-14T18:04:00.000Z-Disambiguation_link_notification_for_December_14"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Maps" data-mw-thread-id="h-Maps-2018-01-25T18:35:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Maps-2018-01-25T18:35:00.000Z"></span>Maps<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Maps-2018-01-25T18:35:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Apcbg&action=edit&section=180" title="Edit section: Maps"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Slatersteven-2018-01-25T18:35:00.000Z-Maps"></span>This edit <a class="external autonumber" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Falkland_Islands&diff=822321630&oldid=822196441">[17]</a> appears to link to a commercial site selling maps. This is problematic, I have to ask, do you have a link to this site?<a href="/wiki/User:Slatersteven" title="User:Slatersteven">Slatersteven</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Slatersteven" title="User talk:Slatersteven">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Apcbg#c-Slatersteven-2018-01-25T18:35:00.000Z-Maps" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:35, 25 January 2018 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Slatersteven-2018-01-25T18:35:00.000Z-Maps"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Slatersteven-2018-01-25T18:35:00.000Z-Maps"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Apcbg-2018-01-25T18:46:00.000Z-Slatersteven-2018-01-25T18:35:00.000Z"></span>No I don't. <a href="/wiki/User:Apcbg" title="User:Apcbg">Apcbg</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Apcbg#c-Apcbg-2018-01-25T18:46:00.000Z-Slatersteven-2018-01-25T18:35:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:46, 25 January 2018 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Apcbg-2018-01-25T18:46:00.000Z-Slatersteven-2018-01-25T18:35:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Apcbg-2018-01-25T18:46:00.000Z-Slatersteven-2018-01-25T18:35:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Slatersteven-2018-01-25T18:49:00.000Z-Apcbg-2018-01-25T18:46:00.000Z"></span>Fair enough, just seemed an odd thing to link to.<a href="/wiki/User:Slatersteven" title="User:Slatersteven">Slatersteven</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Slatersteven" title="User talk:Slatersteven">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Apcbg#c-Slatersteven-2018-01-25T18:49:00.000Z-Apcbg-2018-01-25T18:46:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:49, 25 January 2018 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Slatersteven-2018-01-25T18:49:00.000Z-Apcbg-2018-01-25T18:46:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Slatersteven-2018-01-25T18:49:00.000Z-Apcbg-2018-01-25T18:46:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Apcbg-2018-01-25T18:55:00.000Z-Slatersteven-2018-01-25T18:49:00.000Z"></span>However, those maps are relevant info to have in the article; if your problem is with the links, then you may restore the map references without links. <a href="/wiki/User:Apcbg" title="User:Apcbg">Apcbg</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Apcbg#c-Apcbg-2018-01-25T18:55:00.000Z-Slatersteven-2018-01-25T18:49:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:55, 25 January 2018 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Apcbg-2018-01-25T18:55:00.000Z-Slatersteven-2018-01-25T18:49:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Apcbg-2018-01-25T18:55:00.000Z-Slatersteven-2018-01-25T18:49:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Slatersteven-2018-01-25T19:02:00.000Z-Apcbg-2018-01-25T18:55:00.000Z"></span>I am not sure they add anything our current maps do not, maybe you should explain what they add on the articles talk page so others can chime in.<a href="/wiki/User:Slatersteven" title="User:Slatersteven">Slatersteven</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Slatersteven" title="User talk:Slatersteven">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Apcbg#c-Slatersteven-2018-01-25T19:02:00.000Z-Apcbg-2018-01-25T18:55:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:02, 25 January 2018 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Slatersteven-2018-01-25T19:02:00.000Z-Apcbg-2018-01-25T18:55:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Slatersteven-2018-01-25T19:02:00.000Z-Apcbg-2018-01-25T18:55:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Apcbg-2018-01-25T20:19:00.000Z-Slatersteven-2018-01-25T19:02:00.000Z"></span>Even the <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20050416053657/http://www.falklands.gov.fk/coastal-shipping/falkland-islands-map.jpg">1:643000 Map</a> has numerous informative details that the <a class="external text" href="https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/4e/Falkland_Islands_topographic_map-en.svg">Wiki Falklands map</a> lacks, s.a. names of islands, sea points and coves, elevation points, remote houses/huts etc. (The latter map might have some inaccuracies too, like the misplaced New Island settlement.) Needless to say, the large scale 1:50000 topographic map adds still further details. <a href="/wiki/User:Apcbg" title="User:Apcbg">Apcbg</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Apcbg#c-Apcbg-2018-01-25T20:19:00.000Z-Slatersteven-2018-01-25T19:02:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:19, 25 January 2018 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Apcbg-2018-01-25T20:19:00.000Z-Slatersteven-2018-01-25T19:02:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Apcbg-2018-01-25T20:19:00.000Z-Slatersteven-2018-01-25T19:02:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 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Your submission of <a href="/wiki/Weddell_Island" title="Weddell Island">Weddell Island</a> at the <a href="/wiki/Template_talk:DYK" class="mw-redirect" title="Template talk:DYK">Did You Know nominations page</a> has been reviewed, and some issues with it may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath <b><a href="/wiki/Template:Did_you_know_nominations/Weddell_Island" title="Template:Did you know nominations/Weddell Island">your nomination's entry</a></b> and respond there as soon as possible. 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id="c-Apcbg-2018-05-30T07:23:00.000Z-BlueMoonset-2018-05-29T07:43:00.000Z"></span>Done. <a href="/wiki/User:Apcbg" title="User:Apcbg">Apcbg</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Apcbg#c-Apcbg-2018-05-30T07:23:00.000Z-BlueMoonset-2018-05-29T07:43:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">07:23, 30 May 2018 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Apcbg-2018-05-30T07:23:00.000Z-BlueMoonset-2018-05-29T07:43:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Apcbg-2018-05-30T07:23:00.000Z-BlueMoonset-2018-05-29T07:43:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 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id="c-DPL_bot-2018-06-18T09:25:00.000Z-Disambiguation_link_notification_for_June_18"></span>An automated process has detected that you recently added links to disambiguation pages. </p> <dl><dd><a href="/wiki/Lyaskovets_Peak" title="Lyaskovets Peak">Lyaskovets Peak</a> (<a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="//dispenser.info.tm/~dispenser/cgi-bin/dablinks.py/Lyaskovets_Peak">check to confirm</a> | <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="//dispenser.info.tm/~dispenser/cgi-bin/dab_solver.py/Lyaskovets_Peak?client=notify">fix with Dab solver</a>) <dl><dd>added a link pointing to <a href="/wiki/Lyubomir_Ivanov" class="mw-disambig" title="Lyubomir Ivanov">Lyubomir Ivanov</a></dd></dl></dd> <dd><a href="/wiki/Ongal_Peak" title="Ongal Peak">Ongal Peak</a> (<a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="//dispenser.info.tm/~dispenser/cgi-bin/dablinks.py/Ongal_Peak">check to confirm</a> | <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" 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class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Meters-2018-06-21T05:34:00.000Z-your_revert_[18]"></span>This is almost certainly an IP sock of the indeffed <a href="/wiki/User:SwedenAviator" title="User:SwedenAviator">user:SwedenAviator</a> . See <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Sockpuppet_investigations/SwedenAviator" title="Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/SwedenAviator">Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/SwedenAviator</a>. I've reported to ANI since I previously gave them an imminent warning when they first showed up. <a href="/wiki/User:Meters" title="User:Meters">Meters</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Meters" title="User talk:Meters">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Apcbg#c-Meters-2018-06-21T05:34:00.000Z-your_revert_[18]" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">05:34, 21 June 2018 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Meters-2018-06-21T05:34:00.000Z-your_revert_[18]"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Meters-2018-06-21T05:34:00.000Z-your_revert_[18]"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="ArbCom_2018_election_voter_message" data-mw-thread-id="h-ArbCom_2018_election_voter_message-2018-11-19T18:42:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-ArbCom_2018_election_voter_message-2018-11-19T18:42:00.000Z"></span>ArbCom 2018 election voter message<span data-mw-comment-end="h-ArbCom_2018_election_voter_message-2018-11-19T18:42:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Apcbg&action=edit&section=185" title="Edit section: ArbCom 2018 election voter message"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-MediaWiki_message_delivery-2018-11-19T18:42:00.000Z-ArbCom_2018_election_voter_message"></span><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1256334245"><div class="ivmbox" style=""> <div class="ivmbox-image" style="flex-basis: 40px"><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Scale_of_justice_2.svg" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/0e/Scale_of_justice_2.svg/40px-Scale_of_justice_2.svg.png" decoding="async" width="40" height="41" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/0e/Scale_of_justice_2.svg/60px-Scale_of_justice_2.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/0e/Scale_of_justice_2.svg/80px-Scale_of_justice_2.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="204" data-file-height="208"/></a></span></div> <div class="ivmbox-text"> <p>Hello, Apcbg. 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href="/wiki/D%27Urville_Island" title="D'Urville Island">D'Urville Island</a> (<a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="//dispenser.info.tm/~dispenser/cgi-bin/dablinks.py/Bulgarian_toponyms_in_Antarctica_%28L%29">check to confirm</a> | <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="//dispenser.info.tm/~dispenser/cgi-bin/dab_solver.py/Bulgarian_toponyms_in_Antarctica_%28L%29?client=notify">fix with Dab solver</a>). </p><p>(<a href="/wiki/User:DPL_bot" title="User:DPL bot">Opt-out instructions</a>.) --<a href="/wiki/User:DPL_bot" title="User:DPL bot">DPL bot</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:DPL_bot" title="User talk:DPL bot">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Apcbg#c-DPL_bot-2018-12-30T09:06:00.000Z-Disambiguation_link_notification_for_December_30" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:06, 30 December 2018 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" 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data-mw-thread-id="c-Apcbg-2018-12-30T09:10:00.000Z-DPL_bot-2018-12-30T09:06:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Apcbg-2018-12-30T09:10:00.000Z-DPL_bot-2018-12-30T09:06:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Ways_to_improve_Sofia_Peak" data-mw-thread-id="h-Ways_to_improve_Sofia_Peak-2019-05-23T20:13:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Ways_to_improve_Sofia_Peak-2019-05-23T20:13:00.000Z"></span>Ways to improve Sofia Peak<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Ways_to_improve_Sofia_Peak-2019-05-23T20:13:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Apcbg&action=edit&section=188" title="Edit section: Ways to 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I edit here too, under the username <a href="/wiki/User:Boleyn" title="User:Boleyn">Boleyn</a> and it's nice to meet you :-) </p><p>I wanted to let you know that <a href="/wiki/User:Boleyn" title="User:Boleyn">I</a> have tagged <a href="/wiki/Sofia_Peak" title="Sofia Peak">the page</a> as having some issues to fix, as a part of our <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:NPP" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:NPP">page curation process</a> and note that:- </p> <style data-mw-deduplicate="TemplateStyles:r1244412712">.mw-parser-output .templatequote{overflow:hidden;margin:1em 0;padding:0 32px}.mw-parser-output .templatequotecite{line-height:1.5em;text-align:left;margin-top:0}@media(min-width:500px){.mw-parser-output .templatequotecite{padding-left:1.6em}}</style><blockquote class="templatequote"><p>This has been tagged for 2 issues.</p></blockquote> <p>The tags can be removed by you or another editor once the issues they mention are addressed. If you have questions, leave a comment here and prepend it with <code>{{Re|Boleyn}}</code>. And, don't forget to sign your reply with <code>~~~~</code> . 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Done. Best, <a href="/wiki/User:Apcbg" title="User:Apcbg">Apcbg</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Apcbg#c-Apcbg-2019-05-24T09:49:00.000Z-Boleyn-2019-05-23T20:13:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:49, 24 May 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Apcbg-2019-05-24T09:49:00.000Z-Boleyn-2019-05-23T20:13:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Apcbg-2019-05-24T09:49:00.000Z-Boleyn-2019-05-23T20:13:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Ways_to_improve_Pimpirev_Peak" data-mw-thread-id="h-Ways_to_improve_Pimpirev_Peak-2019-06-18T20:50:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Ways_to_improve_Pimpirev_Peak-2019-06-18T20:50:00.000Z"></span>Ways to improve Pimpirev Peak<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Ways_to_improve_Pimpirev_Peak-2019-06-18T20:50:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Apcbg&action=edit&section=189" title="Edit section: Ways to improve Pimpirev Peak"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Boleyn-2019-06-18T20:50:00.000Z-Ways_to_improve_Pimpirev_Peak"></span>Hello, Apcbg, </p><p>Thanks for creating <a href="/wiki/Pimpirev_Peak" title="Pimpirev Peak">Pimpirev Peak</a>! I edit here too, under the username <a href="/wiki/User:Boleyn" title="User:Boleyn">Boleyn</a> and it's nice to meet you :-) </p><p>I wanted to let you know that <a href="/wiki/User:Boleyn" title="User:Boleyn">I</a> have tagged <a href="/wiki/Pimpirev_Peak" title="Pimpirev Peak">the page</a> as having some issues to fix, as a part of our <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:NPP" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:NPP">page curation process</a> and note that:- </p> <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1244412712"><blockquote class="templatequote"><p>This has been tagged for one issue.</p></blockquote> <p>The tags can be removed by you or another editor once the issues they mention are addressed. If you have questions, leave a comment here and prepend it with <code>{{Re|Boleyn}}</code>. And, don't forget to sign your reply with <code>~~~~</code> . 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Done. Best, <a href="/wiki/User:Apcbg" title="User:Apcbg">Apcbg</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Apcbg#c-Apcbg-2019-07-02T07:46:00.000Z-Boleyn-2019-06-18T20:50:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">07:46, 2 July 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Apcbg-2019-07-02T07:46:00.000Z-Boleyn-2019-06-18T20:50:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Apcbg-2019-07-02T07:46:00.000Z-Boleyn-2019-06-18T20:50:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Copernix.io?" data-mw-thread-id="h-Copernix.io?-2019-07-01T07:16:00.000Z"><span id="Copernix.io.3F"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Copernix.io?-2019-07-01T07:16:00.000Z"></span>Copernix.io?<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Copernix.io?-2019-07-01T07:16:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Apcbg&action=edit&section=190" title="Edit section: Copernix.io?"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Premeditated_Chaos-2019-07-01T07:16:00.000Z-Copernix.io?"></span>Hey, what's the deal with adding Copernix.io as an external link to tons of articles? It's a search engine map derived from Wikipedia and doesn't appear to be much different than any other satellite map site. Is there something here about its utility that I'm missing? ♠<a href="/wiki/User:Premeditated_Chaos" title="User:Premeditated Chaos">PMC</a>♠ <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Premeditated_Chaos" title="User talk:Premeditated Chaos">(talk)</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Apcbg#c-Premeditated_Chaos-2019-07-01T07:16:00.000Z-Copernix.io?" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">07:16, 1 July 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Premeditated_Chaos-2019-07-01T07:16:00.000Z-Copernix.io?"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Premeditated_Chaos-2019-07-01T07:16:00.000Z-Copernix.io?"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Apcbg-2019-07-01T07:38:00.000Z-Premeditated_Chaos-2019-07-01T07:16:00.000Z"></span>It's more than a general link to some satellite map site. The added links produce, with a single click and no extra work on behalf of the user, scaled satellite images of the particular geographical features. This is an added value to the relevant articles. I am not aware if we could have the same with e.g. Google Earth, but in any case it is convenient to have such links (using Copernix.io or another facility) that require no searching and no user knowledge of the particular feature's dimension. Best, <a href="/wiki/User:Apcbg" title="User:Apcbg">Apcbg</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Apcbg#c-Apcbg-2019-07-01T07:38:00.000Z-Premeditated_Chaos-2019-07-01T07:16:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">07:38, 1 July 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Apcbg-2019-07-01T07:38:00.000Z-Premeditated_Chaos-2019-07-01T07:16:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Apcbg-2019-07-01T07:38:00.000Z-Premeditated_Chaos-2019-07-01T07:16:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Category:Ocean_Fisheries_–_Burgas_Co" data-mw-thread-id="h-Category:Ocean_Fisheries_–_Burgas_Co-2019-08-09T13:06:00.000Z"><span id="Category:Ocean_Fisheries_.E2.80.93_Burgas_Co"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Category:Ocean_Fisheries_–_Burgas_Co-2019-08-09T13:06:00.000Z"></span><a href="/wiki/Category:Ocean_Fisheries_%E2%80%93_Burgas_Co" title="Category:Ocean Fisheries – Burgas Co">Category:Ocean Fisheries – Burgas Co</a><span data-mw-comment-end="h-Category:Ocean_Fisheries_–_Burgas_Co-2019-08-09T13:06:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Apcbg&action=edit&section=191" title="Edit section: Category:Ocean Fisheries – Burgas Co"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Rathfelder-2019-08-09T13:06:00.000Z-Category:Ocean_Fisheries_–_Burgas_Co"></span>I dont understand this category you have created. It needs a parent category.<a href="/wiki/User:Rathfelder" title="User:Rathfelder">Rathfelder</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Rathfelder" title="User talk:Rathfelder">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Apcbg#c-Rathfelder-2019-08-09T13:06:00.000Z-Category:Ocean_Fisheries_–_Burgas_Co" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:06, 9 August 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Rathfelder-2019-08-09T13:06:00.000Z-Category:Ocean_Fisheries_–_Burgas_Co"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Rathfelder-2019-08-09T13:06:00.000Z-Category:Ocean_Fisheries_–_Burgas_Co"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Apcbg-2019-08-09T13:48:00.000Z-Rathfelder-2019-08-09T13:06:00.000Z"></span>That category is about articles related to the company Ocean Fisheries – Burgas Co (an article on the company itself would belong there, too); the relevant parent category should be <a href="/wiki/Category:Defunct_companies_of_Bulgaria" title="Category:Defunct companies of Bulgaria">Category:Defunct companies of Bulgaria</a> I believe. Best, <a href="/wiki/User:Apcbg" title="User:Apcbg">Apcbg</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Apcbg#c-Apcbg-2019-08-09T13:48:00.000Z-Rathfelder-2019-08-09T13:06:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:48, 9 August 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Apcbg-2019-08-09T13:48:00.000Z-Rathfelder-2019-08-09T13:06:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Apcbg-2019-08-09T13:48:00.000Z-Rathfelder-2019-08-09T13:06:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Rathfelder-2019-08-09T15:56:00.000Z-Category:Ocean_Fisheries_–_Burgas_Co"></span>It's better to create the article before the category.<a href="/wiki/User:Rathfelder" title="User:Rathfelder">Rathfelder</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Rathfelder" title="User talk:Rathfelder">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Apcbg#c-Rathfelder-2019-08-09T15:56:00.000Z-Category:Ocean_Fisheries_–_Burgas_Co" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:56, 9 August 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Rathfelder-2019-08-09T15:56:00.000Z-Category:Ocean_Fisheries_–_Burgas_Co"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Rathfelder-2019-08-09T15:56:00.000Z-Category:Ocean_Fisheries_–_Burgas_Co"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Apcbg-2019-08-09T17:46:00.000Z-Rathfelder-2019-08-09T15:56:00.000Z"></span>Done. <a href="/wiki/User:Apcbg" title="User:Apcbg">Apcbg</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Apcbg#c-Apcbg-2019-08-09T17:46:00.000Z-Rathfelder-2019-08-09T15:56:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:46, 9 August 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Apcbg-2019-08-09T17:46:00.000Z-Rathfelder-2019-08-09T15:56:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Apcbg-2019-08-09T17:46:00.000Z-Rathfelder-2019-08-09T15:56:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Language_and_IPA" data-mw-thread-id="h-Language_and_IPA-2019-10-25T10:20:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Language_and_IPA-2019-10-25T10:20:00.000Z"></span>Language and IPA<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Language_and_IPA-2019-10-25T10:20:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Apcbg&action=edit&section=192" title="Edit section: Language and IPA"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-IvanScrooge98-2019-10-25T10:20:00.000Z-Language_and_IPA"></span>Hi. Please see my edits at <a href="/wiki/Goritsa_Rocks" title="Goritsa Rocks">Goritsa Rocks</a>, <a href="/wiki/Varna_Peninsula" title="Varna Peninsula">Varna Peninsula</a>, <a href="/wiki/Vidin_Heights" title="Vidin Heights">Vidin Heights</a>, <a href="/wiki/Glarus_Island" title="Glarus Island">Glarus Island</a> and <a href="/wiki/Avitohol_Point" title="Avitohol Point">Avitohol Point</a> and consider changing other lead sections if you can, as that is how we normally list foreign names and pronunciations. Thank you! 〜<a href="/wiki/User:IvanScrooge98" title="User:IvanScrooge98"><span style="color:#009246;" lang="ja">イヴァン<b>スクルージ</b>九十八</span><span style="font-size:85%;">［Ivan<b>Scrooge</b>98］</span></a><span style="font-size:85%;">（<a href="/wiki/User_talk:IvanScrooge98" title="User talk:IvanScrooge98"><span style="color:#CE2B37;" lang="ja">会話</span></a>）</span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Apcbg#c-IvanScrooge98-2019-10-25T10:20:00.000Z-Language_and_IPA" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:20, 25 October 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-IvanScrooge98-2019-10-25T10:20:00.000Z-Language_and_IPA"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-IvanScrooge98-2019-10-25T10:20:00.000Z-Language_and_IPA"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Apcbg-2019-10-25T12:48:00.000Z-IvanScrooge98-2019-10-25T10:20:00.000Z"></span>Using IPA is okay. However, per <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Naming_conventions_(Cyrillic)" title="Wikipedia:Naming conventions (Cyrillic)">Wikipedia:Naming conventions (Cyrillic)</a> the official <a href="/wiki/Romanization_of_Bulgarian#Streamlined_System" title="Romanization of Bulgarian">Streamlined System</a> is preferred for the Romanization of Bulgarian, transliterating Bulgarian <b>ъ</b> as Roman <b>a</b> not <b>ǎ</b>. You might wish to fix the incorrect Romanization forms you have recently created in several articles. Best, <a href="/wiki/User:Apcbg" title="User:Apcbg">Apcbg</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Apcbg#c-Apcbg-2019-10-25T12:48:00.000Z-IvanScrooge98-2019-10-25T10:20:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:48, 25 October 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Apcbg-2019-10-25T12:48:00.000Z-IvanScrooge98-2019-10-25T10:20:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Apcbg-2019-10-25T12:48:00.000Z-IvanScrooge98-2019-10-25T10:20:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-IvanScrooge98-2019-10-25T13:24:00.000Z-Apcbg-2019-10-25T12:48:00.000Z"></span>Those are not incorrect, as 'preferred' does not mean 'compulsory'. However, even though I disagree with this convention, I will try to stick to it.<br/>Anyway, <a href="/wiki/Help:IPA/Bulgarian" title="Help:IPA/Bulgarian">Help:IPA/Bulgarian</a> transcribes both у and о as <span class="IPA nowrap" lang="und-Latn-fonipa" title="Representation in the International Phonetic Alphabet (IPA)">[o]</span> in unstressed position. 〜<a href="/wiki/User:IvanScrooge98" title="User:IvanScrooge98"><span style="color:#009246;" lang="ja">イヴァン<b>スクルージ</b>九十八</span><span style="font-size:85%;">［Ivan<b>Scrooge</b>98］</span></a><span style="font-size:85%;">（<a href="/wiki/User_talk:IvanScrooge98" title="User talk:IvanScrooge98"><span style="color:#CE2B37;" lang="ja">会話</span></a>）</span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Apcbg#c-IvanScrooge98-2019-10-25T13:24:00.000Z-Apcbg-2019-10-25T12:48:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:24, 25 October 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-IvanScrooge98-2019-10-25T13:24:00.000Z-Apcbg-2019-10-25T12:48:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-IvanScrooge98-2019-10-25T13:24:00.000Z-Apcbg-2019-10-25T12:48:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Apcbg-2019-10-27T09:47:00.000Z-IvanScrooge98-2019-10-25T13:24:00.000Z"></span>Okay, fine. Best, <a href="/wiki/User:Apcbg" title="User:Apcbg">Apcbg</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Apcbg#c-Apcbg-2019-10-27T09:47:00.000Z-IvanScrooge98-2019-10-25T13:24:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:47, 27 October 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Apcbg-2019-10-27T09:47:00.000Z-IvanScrooge98-2019-10-25T13:24:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Apcbg-2019-10-27T09:47:00.000Z-IvanScrooge98-2019-10-25T13:24:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-IvanScrooge98-2019-10-27T10:30:00.000Z-Language_and_IPA"></span>Oh, one last thing if you don’t mind. I assume you are a native speaker, so I wondered whether you could check the voicing and devoicing of syllable-final consonants. I know they are always devoiced word-finally, but judging from what occurs word-internally, I don’t know if a voiced consonant at the beginning of a word also makes a preceding word's final voiced (e.g. is the -в at <a href="/wiki/Boatin_Island" title="Boatin Island">Boatin Island</a> <span class="IPA nowrap" lang="und-Latn-fonipa" title="Representation in the International Phonetic Alphabet (IPA)">[f]</span> or does it re-voice to <span class="IPA nowrap" lang="und-Latn-fonipa" title="Representation in the International Phonetic Alphabet (IPA)">[v]</span>?). Thank you. 〜<a href="/wiki/User:IvanScrooge98" title="User:IvanScrooge98"><span style="color:#009246;" lang="ja">イヴァン<b>スクルージ</b>九十八</span><span style="font-size:85%;">［Ivan<b>Scrooge</b>98］</span></a><span style="font-size:85%;">（<a href="/wiki/User_talk:IvanScrooge98" title="User talk:IvanScrooge98"><span style="color:#CE2B37;" lang="ja">会話</span></a>）</span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Apcbg#c-IvanScrooge98-2019-10-27T10:30:00.000Z-Language_and_IPA" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:30, 27 October 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-IvanScrooge98-2019-10-27T10:30:00.000Z-Language_and_IPA"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-IvanScrooge98-2019-10-27T10:30:00.000Z-Language_and_IPA"></span><br/><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-IvanScrooge98-2019-10-27T10:50:00.000Z-Language_and_IPA"></span> Nevermind, found out it works exactly like that. 〜<a href="/wiki/User:IvanScrooge98" title="User:IvanScrooge98"><span style="color:#009246;" lang="ja">イヴァン<b>スクルージ</b>九十八</span><span style="font-size:85%;">［Ivan<b>Scrooge</b>98］</span></a><span style="font-size:85%;">（<a href="/wiki/User_talk:IvanScrooge98" title="User talk:IvanScrooge98"><span style="color:#CE2B37;" lang="ja">会話</span></a>）</span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Apcbg#c-IvanScrooge98-2019-10-27T10:50:00.000Z-Language_and_IPA" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:50, 27 October 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-IvanScrooge98-2019-10-27T10:50:00.000Z-Language_and_IPA"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-IvanScrooge98-2019-10-27T10:50:00.000Z-Language_and_IPA"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Apcbg-2019-10-27T17:58:00.000Z-IvanScrooge98-2019-10-27T10:50:00.000Z"></span>Yes, quite so I believe. 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href="/wiki/User:Apcbg" title="User:Apcbg">Apcbg</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Apcbg#c-Apcbg-2020-04-06T14:14:00.000Z-DPL_bot-2020-04-06T08:16:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:14, 6 April 2020 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Apcbg-2020-04-06T14:14:00.000Z-DPL_bot-2020-04-06T08:16:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Apcbg-2020-04-06T14:14:00.000Z-DPL_bot-2020-04-06T08:16:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="thanks!_and_excuse_me_pls!?" data-mw-thread-id="h-thanks!_and_excuse_me_pls!?-2020-05-27T11:26:00.000Z"><span id="thanks.21_and_excuse_me_pls.21.3F"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-thanks!_and_excuse_me_pls!?-2020-05-27T11:26:00.000Z"></span>thanks! and excuse me pls!?<span data-mw-comment-end="h-thanks!_and_excuse_me_pls!?-2020-05-27T11:26:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Apcbg&action=edit&section=198" title="Edit section: thanks! and excuse me pls!?"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Akim_Dubrow-2020-05-27T11:26:00.000Z-thanks!_and_excuse_me_pls!?"></span>thankyou 4 correcting my mistake in <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Operation_Paraquet&oldid=prev&diff=959152178">there</a>! the thing is i've noted that error somewhere else, where there were not any textual mentions of an "island"! =) </p><p>With gratitude, --<a href="/wiki/User:Akim_Dubrow" class="mw-redirect" title="User:Akim Dubrow">Akim Dubrow</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Akim_Dubrow" title="User talk:Akim Dubrow">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Apcbg#c-Akim_Dubrow-2020-05-27T11:26:00.000Z-thanks!_and_excuse_me_pls!?" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:26, 27 May 2020 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Akim_Dubrow-2020-05-27T11:26:00.000Z-thanks!_and_excuse_me_pls!?"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Akim_Dubrow-2020-05-27T11:26:00.000Z-thanks!_and_excuse_me_pls!?"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Apcbg-2020-05-27T11:50:00.000Z-Akim_Dubrow-2020-05-27T11:26:00.000Z"></span>You're welcome. Best, <a href="/wiki/User:Apcbg" title="User:Apcbg">Apcbg</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Apcbg#c-Apcbg-2020-05-27T11:50:00.000Z-Akim_Dubrow-2020-05-27T11:26:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:50, 27 May 2020 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Apcbg-2020-05-27T11:50:00.000Z-Akim_Dubrow-2020-05-27T11:26:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Apcbg-2020-05-27T11:50:00.000Z-Akim_Dubrow-2020-05-27T11:26:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Falklands" data-mw-thread-id="h-Falklands-2020-05-29T19:19:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Falklands-2020-05-29T19:19:00.000Z"></span>Falklands<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Falklands-2020-05-29T19:19:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Apcbg&action=edit&section=199" title="Edit section: Falklands"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-2601:85:C101:BA30:2001:115C:431D:A5C6-2020-05-29T19:19:00.000Z-Falklands"></span>Can you please reply to the talk page on <a href="/wiki/Falklands_War" title="Falklands War">Falklands War</a> about the conflict length. You are being unclear as to why the infobox cannot have it. I am asking you directly for clarity and I'm trying to avoid edit-warring. <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/2601:85:C101:BA30:2001:115C:431D:A5C6" title="Special:Contributions/2601:85:C101:BA30:2001:115C:431D:A5C6">2601:85:C101:BA30:2001:115C:431D:A5C6</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:2601:85:C101:BA30:2001:115C:431D:A5C6" title="User talk:2601:85:C101:BA30:2001:115C:431D:A5C6">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Apcbg#c-2601:85:C101:BA30:2001:115C:431D:A5C6-2020-05-29T19:19:00.000Z-Falklands" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:19, 29 May 2020 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-2601:85:C101:BA30:2001:115C:431D:A5C6-2020-05-29T19:19:00.000Z-Falklands"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-2601:85:C101:BA30:2001:115C:431D:A5C6-2020-05-29T19:19:00.000Z-Falklands"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Apcbg-2020-05-29T20:03:00.000Z-2601:85:C101:BA30:2001:115C:431D:A5C6-2020-05-29T19:19:00.000Z"></span>The description "a 10-week undeclared war" and the infobox entry "Date: 2 April – 14 June 1982" suffice I reckon. <a href="/wiki/User:Apcbg" title="User:Apcbg">Apcbg</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Apcbg#c-Apcbg-2020-05-29T20:03:00.000Z-2601:85:C101:BA30:2001:115C:431D:A5C6-2020-05-29T19:19:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:03, 29 May 2020 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Apcbg-2020-05-29T20:03:00.000Z-2601:85:C101:BA30:2001:115C:431D:A5C6-2020-05-29T19:19:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Apcbg-2020-05-29T20:03:00.000Z-2601:85:C101:BA30:2001:115C:431D:A5C6-2020-05-29T19:19:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-2601:85:C101:BA30:2001:115C:431D:A5C6-2020-05-29T20:16:00.000Z-Apcbg-2020-05-29T20:03:00.000Z"></span>Eh, fair enough. A little extra detail couldn't hurt though. <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/2601:85:C101:BA30:2001:115C:431D:A5C6" title="Special:Contributions/2601:85:C101:BA30:2001:115C:431D:A5C6">2601:85:C101:BA30:2001:115C:431D:A5C6</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:2601:85:C101:BA30:2001:115C:431D:A5C6" title="User talk:2601:85:C101:BA30:2001:115C:431D:A5C6">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Apcbg#c-2601:85:C101:BA30:2001:115C:431D:A5C6-2020-05-29T20:16:00.000Z-Apcbg-2020-05-29T20:03:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:16, 29 May 2020 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-2601:85:C101:BA30:2001:115C:431D:A5C6-2020-05-29T20:16:00.000Z-Apcbg-2020-05-29T20:03:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-2601:85:C101:BA30:2001:115C:431D:A5C6-2020-05-29T20:16:00.000Z-Apcbg-2020-05-29T20:03:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="ArbCom_2020_Elections_voter_message" data-mw-thread-id="h-ArbCom_2020_Elections_voter_message-2020-11-24T01:29:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-ArbCom_2020_Elections_voter_message-2020-11-24T01:29:00.000Z"></span>ArbCom 2020 Elections voter message<span data-mw-comment-end="h-ArbCom_2020_Elections_voter_message-2020-11-24T01:29:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Apcbg&action=edit&section=200" title="Edit section: ArbCom 2020 Elections voter message"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <table class="messagebox" style="border: 1px solid #AAA; background: ivory; padding: 0.5em; width: 100%;"> <tbody><tr><td style="vertical-align:middle; padding-left:1px; padding-right:0.5em;"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-MediaWiki_message_delivery-2020-11-24T01:29:00.000Z-ArbCom_2020_Elections_voter_message"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Scale_of_justice_2.svg" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/0e/Scale_of_justice_2.svg/40px-Scale_of_justice_2.svg.png" decoding="async" width="40" height="41" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/0e/Scale_of_justice_2.svg/60px-Scale_of_justice_2.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/0e/Scale_of_justice_2.svg/80px-Scale_of_justice_2.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="204" data-file-height="208"/></a></span></td><td>Hello! 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Nowhere in Lunt's review is not used the word forgery nor he is saying that the plate is forgery. So, I'm not sure what needs to be discussed and with whom (yourself or Jingiby?). Please delete the forgery part, cause it is obvious mistake and there is no such accusation made by Prof.Lunt. Moreover you have deleted my whole edit about Lunt work, not just the forgery part, please be more careful, what I wrote is what exactly Lunt explains about the plate. Can you explain what is the problem with my latest edit? Thank you.--<a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Forbidden_History&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Forbidden History (page does not exist)">Forbidden History</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Forbidden_History" title="User talk:Forbidden History">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Apcbg#c-Forbidden_History-2020-11-30T11:06:00.000Z-Bitola_Inscription" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:06, 30 November 2020 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Forbidden_History-2020-11-30T11:06:00.000Z-Bitola_Inscription"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Forbidden_History-2020-11-30T11:06:00.000Z-Bitola_Inscription"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id=""Bulgarian_Wikipedians"_category" data-mw-thread-id="h-"Bulgarian_Wikipedians"_category-2021-01-17T21:47:00.000Z"><span id=".22Bulgarian_Wikipedians.22_category"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-"Bulgarian_Wikipedians"_category-2021-01-17T21:47:00.000Z"></span>"Bulgarian Wikipedians" category<span data-mw-comment-end="h-"Bulgarian_Wikipedians"_category-2021-01-17T21:47:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Apcbg&action=edit&section=202" title="Edit section: "Bulgarian Wikipedians" category"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-SeriousCherno-2021-01-17T21:47:00.000Z-"Bulgarian_Wikipedians"_category"></span>Hi there, </p><p>Is it okay if I add the Bulgarian Wikipedians category to your user page? </p><p>Regards, </p><p>SeriousCherno <span class="autosigned" style="font-size:85%;">— Preceding <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Signatures" title="Wikipedia:Signatures">unsigned</a> comment added by <a href="/wiki/User:SeriousCherno" title="User:SeriousCherno">SeriousCherno</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:SeriousCherno#top" title="User talk:SeriousCherno">talk</a> • <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/SeriousCherno" title="Special:Contributions/SeriousCherno">contribs</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Apcbg#c-SeriousCherno-2021-01-17T21:47:00.000Z-"Bulgarian_Wikipedians"_category" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:47, 17 January 2021 (UTC)</a></span><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-SeriousCherno-2021-01-17T21:47:00.000Z-"Bulgarian_Wikipedians"_category"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-SeriousCherno-2021-01-17T21:47:00.000Z-"Bulgarian_Wikipedians"_category"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Apcbg-2021-01-18T15:08:00.000Z-SeriousCherno-2021-01-17T21:47:00.000Z"></span>No objection. Best, <a href="/wiki/User:Apcbg" title="User:Apcbg">Apcbg</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Apcbg#c-Apcbg-2021-01-18T15:08:00.000Z-SeriousCherno-2021-01-17T21:47:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:08, 18 January 2021 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Apcbg-2021-01-18T15:08:00.000Z-SeriousCherno-2021-01-17T21:47:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Apcbg-2021-01-18T15:08:00.000Z-SeriousCherno-2021-01-17T21:47:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-SeriousCherno-2021-01-18T15:21:00.000Z-Apcbg-2021-01-18T15:08:00.000Z"></span>Thank you --<a href="/wiki/User:SeriousCherno" title="User:SeriousCherno">SeriousCherno</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:SeriousCherno" title="User talk:SeriousCherno">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Apcbg#c-SeriousCherno-2021-01-18T15:21:00.000Z-Apcbg-2021-01-18T15:08:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:21, 18 January 2021 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-SeriousCherno-2021-01-18T15:21:00.000Z-Apcbg-2021-01-18T15:08:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-SeriousCherno-2021-01-18T15:21:00.000Z-Apcbg-2021-01-18T15:08:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Deletion_discussion_about_Nessie_Rock" data-mw-thread-id="h-Deletion_discussion_about_Nessie_Rock-2021-05-27T16:06:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Deletion_discussion_about_Nessie_Rock-2021-05-27T16:06:00.000Z"></span>Deletion discussion about <a href="/wiki/Nessie_Rock" class="mw-redirect" title="Nessie Rock">Nessie Rock</a><span data-mw-comment-end="h-Deletion_discussion_about_Nessie_Rock-2021-05-27T16:06:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Apcbg&action=edit&section=203" title="Edit section: Deletion discussion about Nessie Rock"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Slatersteven-2021-05-27T16:06:00.000Z-Deletion_discussion_about_Nessie_Rock"></span>Hello, Apcbg, and welcome to Wikipedia. I edit here too, under the username <a href="/wiki/User:Slatersteven" title="User:Slatersteven">Slatersteven</a>, and I thank you for your contributions. </p><p>I wanted to let you know, however, that I've started a discussion about whether an article that you created, <a href="/wiki/Nessie_Rock" class="mw-redirect" title="Nessie Rock">Nessie Rock</a>, should be deleted, as I am not sure that it is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia in its current form. Your comments are welcome at <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Nessie_Rock" title="Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Nessie Rock">Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Nessie Rock</a>. </p><p>You might like to note that such <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:AFD" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:AFD">discussions</a> usually run for seven days and are <i>not</i> ballot-polls. 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As I've tried to explain via edit summaries, you are reverting sourced content. The Kiradjieff brothers were indeed Macedonian Americans and you can find a <a href="/wiki/Talk:Cincinnati_chili#discussion_of_note" title="Talk:Cincinnati chili">listing of selected sources here</a>. 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In particular, the <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Criteria_for_speedy_deletion" title="Wikipedia:Criteria for speedy deletion">speedy deletion</a> process can result in deletion without discussion, and <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion" title="Wikipedia:Articles for deletion">articles for deletion</a> allows discussion to reach <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Consensus" title="Wikipedia:Consensus">consensus</a> for deletion. <a href="/wiki/User:Iskandar323" class="mw-redirect" title="User:Iskandar323">Iskandar323</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Iskandar323" title="User talk:Iskandar323">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Apcbg#c-Iskandar323-20221010123400-Proposed_deletion_of_Mount_Imeon" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:34, 10 October 2022 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Iskandar323-20221010123400-Proposed_deletion_of_Mount_Imeon"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Iskandar323-20221010123400-Proposed_deletion_of_Mount_Imeon"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Nomination_of_Mount_Imeon_for_deletion" data-mw-thread-id="h-Nomination_of_Mount_Imeon_for_deletion-20221010150400"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Nomination_of_Mount_Imeon_for_deletion-20221010150400"></span>Nomination of <a href="/wiki/Mount_Imeon" title="Mount Imeon">Mount Imeon</a> for deletion<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Nomination_of_Mount_Imeon_for_deletion-20221010150400"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Apcbg&action=edit&section=213" title="Edit section: Nomination of Mount Imeon for deletion"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <div class="afd-notice"> <div class="floatleft" style="margin-bottom:0"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Iskandar323-20221010150400-Nomination_of_Mount_Imeon_for_deletion"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/5/5f/Ambox_warning_orange.svg/48px-Ambox_warning_orange.svg.png" decoding="async" width="48" height="41" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/5/5f/Ambox_warning_orange.svg/72px-Ambox_warning_orange.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/5/5f/Ambox_warning_orange.svg/96px-Ambox_warning_orange.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="378" data-file-height="326"/></span></span></div>A discussion is taking place as to whether the article <b><a href="/wiki/Mount_Imeon" title="Mount Imeon">Mount Imeon</a></b> is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:List_of_policies_and_guidelines" title="Wikipedia:List of policies and guidelines">Wikipedia's policies and guidelines</a> or whether it should be <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Deletion_policy" title="Wikipedia:Deletion policy">deleted</a>. <p>The article will be discussed at <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Mount_Imeon" title="Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Mount Imeon">Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Mount Imeon</a> until a consensus is reached, and anyone, including you, is welcome to contribute to the discussion. 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If you no longer wish to receive these messages, you may add <code>{{<a href="/wiki/Template:NoACEMM" class="mw-redirect" title="Template:NoACEMM">NoACEMM</a>}}</code> to your user talk page. <small><a href="/wiki/User:MediaWiki_message_delivery" title="User:MediaWiki message delivery">MediaWiki message delivery</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:MediaWiki_message_delivery" title="User talk:MediaWiki message delivery">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Apcbg#c-MediaWiki_message_delivery-20231128002500-ArbCom_2023_Elections_voter_message" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:25, 28 November 2023 (UTC)</a></small><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-MediaWiki_message_delivery-20231128002500-ArbCom_2023_Elections_voter_message"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-MediaWiki_message_delivery-20231128002500-ArbCom_2023_Elections_voter_message"></span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Antarctic_REMA_Explorer" data-mw-thread-id="h-Antarctic_REMA_Explorer-20240531213600"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Antarctic_REMA_Explorer-20240531213600"></span>Antarctic REMA Explorer<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Antarctic_REMA_Explorer-20240531213600"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Apcbg&action=edit&section=217" title="Edit section: Antarctic REMA Explorer"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Aymatth2-20240531213600-Antarctic_REMA_Explorer"></span>I saw you made changes to <a href="/wiki/Sj%C3%B6gren_Glacier" title="Sjögren Glacier">Sjögren Glacier</a>, correcting elevations, and referencing <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://livingatlas2.arcgis.com/antarcticdemexplorer/">Reference Elevation Model of Antarctica</a>. I am sure the changes are correct, but when I click on the link I just see a map of Antarctica. If I try to search for a feature on the map, e.g. <a href="/wiki/Lobosh_Peak" class="mw-redirect" title="Lobosh Peak">Lobosh Peak</a>, it is not found. If I enter coordinates (which are often quite inaccurate), I get taken to an unlabelled point on the map. What am I missing? <a href="/wiki/User:Aymatth2" title="User:Aymatth2">Aymatth2</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Aymatth2" title="User talk:Aymatth2">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Apcbg#c-Aymatth2-20240531213600-Antarctic_REMA_Explorer" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:36, 31 May 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Aymatth2-20240531213600-Antarctic_REMA_Explorer"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Aymatth2-20240531213600-Antarctic_REMA_Explorer"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Apcbg-20240603051000-Aymatth2-20240531213600"></span>To measure elevations of Antarctic features by means of the high spatial resolution Antarctic REMA Explorer, one enters coordinates, then pinpoints the nearby precise location of the highest point of the measured feature by opening ‘Contour on Antarctic Elevation’ (a variety of 500 m to 1 m contour options available; coordinates are accurate enough for the purpose of determining the nearest summit point), and eventually clicks ‘Identify’ to get the relevant REMA orthometric height.</dd></dl> <dl><dd>For instance, in the case of Seydol Crag one enters coordinates -64.1175, -59.305833, gets a point that is just several dozen metres distant from the summit point of Seydol Crag at -64.11754, -59.3052, which latter point is then identified by REMA as 1069.59 m high.</dd></dl> <dl><dd>Otherwise, the REMA updated elevations of this and other Antarctic features could be sourced to the <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://apcbg.org/gazet-bg.pdf">Bulgarian Antarctic Gazetteer</a>.</dd></dl> <dl><dd>You mention Lobosh Peak yet that name was updated back in 2021 to Lobosh Buttress, see <a class="external free" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Lobosh_Buttress&oldid=1053161542">https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Lobosh_Buttress&oldid=1053161542</a>. This means you have merged an older version of the article, and merging old instead of latest versions amounts to removal of content without due comment and discussion I reckon. That has recently been done to a number of Antarctic articles. <a href="/wiki/User:Apcbg" title="User:Apcbg">Apcbg</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Apcbg#c-Apcbg-20240603051000-Aymatth2-20240531213600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">05:10, 3 June 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Apcbg-20240603051000-Aymatth2-20240531213600"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Apcbg-20240603051000-Aymatth2-20240531213600"></span></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Aymatth2-20240603152600-Apcbg-20240603051000"></span>I will try to create a templated note explaining how the elevation is derived. It is, sort of, original research, in the sense that a fairly definitive source (<a href="/wiki/Scientific_Committee_on_Antarctic_Research" title="Scientific Committee on Antarctic Research">SCAR</a>) gives a different elevation and no source explicitly gives this elevation, but I think that is acceptable in cases like these. It will only work with features where we have reasonably accurate coordinates. Many of the sources are only accurate to degree and minute, giving very inaccurate positions. See for example <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://copernix.io/#?where=-64.04454070373663,-65.0664259249878,14&?query=&?map_type=hybrid">this image</a>, or <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://copernix.io/#?where=-64.05024086047062,-65.06678734114148,19&?query=&?map_type=hybrid">this image</a> which are annotated with coordinates from Wikipedia, mostly originating from the <a href="/wiki/USGS" class="mw-redirect" title="USGS">USGS</a>.</dd> <dd>For names, I think we should go with SCAR. It gives <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://data.aad.gov.au/aadc/gaz/scar/display_name.cfm?gaz_id=137234">Lobosh Peak</a>, and does not return any result for Lobosh Buttress. Sometimes there is a considerable delay between the time when one country proposes a name change and when other authorities accept (or reject) that name change. The former name may have been used in many maps, papers and other publications, so the impact of the proposed change must be considered. Sometimes there is no consensus. For the English wiki, SCAR is authoritative enough. <a href="/wiki/User:Aymatth2" title="User:Aymatth2">Aymatth2</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Aymatth2" title="User talk:Aymatth2">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Apcbg#c-Aymatth2-20240603152600-Apcbg-20240603051000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:26, 3 June 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Aymatth2-20240603152600-Apcbg-20240603051000"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Aymatth2-20240603152600-Apcbg-20240603051000"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Apcbg-20240603210100-Apcbg-20240603051000"></span>An attempted write.up:</dd></dl></dd></dl> <div style="background:#efefef; border:1px solid gray; padding:5px; margin-left:5em;"> <p>To obtain the elevation of a feature from the <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://livingatlas2.arcgis.com/antarcticdemexplorer/">Antarctic REMA Explorer</a>, </p> <ul><li>Copy the coordinates, paste into the box that says "Find address or place", then press enter</li> <li>Hover over the icons at the left of the screen <ul><li>Find "Hillshade" and click on that</li> <li>Find "Contour" and click on that</li></ul></li> <li>In the "Contour properties" box, select Contour Interval = 1m</li> <li>Copy the coordinates from the "Location" box (e.g. Y:-64.218611 X:-59.276389) and paste into the search box.</li> <li>Adjust the Y and X values until the "Location" box is at the high point of the feature</li> <li>Click on the "Identify" icon on the left bar to view a rotating "please wait" symbol</li> <li>Click on the "Measure" icon on the left bar to get the message "Elevation Profile not available for the current service"</li></ul> </div> <dl><dd><dl><dd>What am I doing wrong?</dd></dl></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd>Try this:</dd> <dd>• For better view, set the Shading Factor at 0.0</dd> <dd>• Copy the coordinates, paste into the box that says "Find address or place", then press enter</dd> <dd>• Hover over the icons at the left of the screen</dd> <dd>• Find "Hillshade on Antarctic Elevation" and click on that</dd> <dd>• Find "Contour on Antarctic Elevation" and click on that</dd> <dd>• In the "Contour properties" box, select Contour Interval = 1 m</dd> <dd>• Click on "Identify" on the left bar</dd> <dd>• Click on the high point of the feature as suggested by the contours (click again if necessary) to get a red dot on that point and the emergence of an "Identify" box containing: Current Scene ID; Source; Imagery Date; Estimated accuracy; Pixel Size; Aspect; Slope; Orthometric height; and Ellipsoidal height.</dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd>It’s the Orthometric height you want. The coordinates of the red dot, if you need them, appear at the screen bottom.</dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd>By the way, for new measurements one may use the newer <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://rema.apps.pgc.umn.edu/">Version 2 of REMA</a> released in 2022. <a href="/wiki/User:Apcbg" title="User:Apcbg">Apcbg</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Apcbg#c-Apcbg-20240603210100-Apcbg-20240603051000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:01, 3 June 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Apcbg-20240603210100-Apcbg-20240603051000"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Apcbg-20240603210100-Apcbg-20240603051000"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Aymatth2-20240604003800-Antarctic_REMA_Explorer"></span>So I think this will work: </p><p>... A rocky, mostly ice-free peak rising to 1,275 metres (4,183 ft)<sup id="cite_ref-FOOTNOTEAntarctic_REMA_Explorer_2-0" class="reference"><a href="#cite_note-FOOTNOTEAntarctic_REMA_Explorer-2"><span class="cite-bracket">[</span>1<span class="cite-bracket">]</span></a></sup> </p> <style data-mw-deduplicate="TemplateStyles:r1239543626">.mw-parser-output .reflist{margin-bottom:0.5em;list-style-type:decimal}@media screen{.mw-parser-output .reflist{font-size:90%}}.mw-parser-output .reflist .references{font-size:100%;margin-bottom:0;list-style-type:inherit}.mw-parser-output .reflist-columns-2{column-width:30em}.mw-parser-output .reflist-columns-3{column-width:25em}.mw-parser-output .reflist-columns{margin-top:0.3em}.mw-parser-output .reflist-columns ol{margin-top:0}.mw-parser-output .reflist-columns li{page-break-inside:avoid;break-inside:avoid-column}.mw-parser-output .reflist-upper-alpha{list-style-type:upper-alpha}.mw-parser-output .reflist-upper-roman{list-style-type:upper-roman}.mw-parser-output .reflist-lower-alpha{list-style-type:lower-alpha}.mw-parser-output .reflist-lower-greek{list-style-type:lower-greek}.mw-parser-output .reflist-lower-roman{list-style-type:lower-roman}</style><div class="reflist"> <div class="mw-references-wrap"><ol class="references"> <li id="cite_note-FOOTNOTEAntarctic_REMA_Explorer-2"><span class="mw-cite-backlink"><b><a href="#cite_ref-FOOTNOTEAntarctic_REMA_Explorer_2-0">^</a></b></span> <span class="reference-text"><a href="#CITEREFAntarctic_REMA_Explorer">Antarctic REMA Explorer</a>.</span> </li> </ol></div></div> <div style="float:right; max-width:40em; margin-top:-10px; margin-left:15px;"> <table class="wikitable mw-collapsible mw-collapsed"> <tbody><tr> <th>REMA Explorer </th></tr> <tr> <td style="background:#f1f1f1;">The <a href="/wiki/Reference_Elevation_Model_of_Antarctica" title="Reference Elevation Model of Antarctica">Reference Elevation Model of Antarctica</a> (REMA) gives ice surface measurements of most of the continent. When a feature is ice-covered, the ice surface will differ from the underlying rock surface and will change over time. To see ice surface contours and elevation of a feature as of the last REMA update, <ul><li>Open the <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://livingatlas2.arcgis.com/antarcticdemexplorer/">Antarctic REMA Explorer</a></li> <li>Enter the feature's coordinates in the box at the top left that says "Find address or place", then press enter <dl><dd>The coordinates should be in DMS format, e.g. 65°05'03"S 64°01'02"W. If you only have degrees and minutes, you may not be able to locate the feature.</dd></dl></li> <li>Hover over the icons at the left of the screen</li> <li>Find "Hillshade" and click on that <dl><dd>In the bottom right of the screen, set "Shading Factor" to 0 to get a clearer image</dd></dl></li> <li>Find "Contour" and click on that <dl><dd>In the "Contour properties" box, select Contour Interval = 1m</dd> <dd>You can zoom in and out to see the ice surface contours of the feature and nearby features</dd></dl></li> <li>Find "Identify" and click on that <dl><dd>Click the point where the contour lines seem to indicate the top of the feature</dd> <dd>The "Identify" box will appear to the top left. The Orthometric height is the elevation of the ice surface of the feature at this point.</dd></dl></li></ul> </td></tr></tbody></table> </div> <ul><li><style data-mw-deduplicate="TemplateStyles:r1238218222">.mw-parser-output cite.citation{font-style:inherit;word-wrap:break-word}.mw-parser-output .citation q{quotes:"\"""\"""'""'"}.mw-parser-output .citation:target{background-color:rgba(0,127,255,0.133)}.mw-parser-output .id-lock-free.id-lock-free a{background:url("//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/65/Lock-green.svg")right 0.1em center/9px no-repeat}.mw-parser-output .id-lock-limited.id-lock-limited a,.mw-parser-output .id-lock-registration.id-lock-registration a{background:url("//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/d6/Lock-gray-alt-2.svg")right 0.1em center/9px no-repeat}.mw-parser-output .id-lock-subscription.id-lock-subscription a{background:url("//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/aa/Lock-red-alt-2.svg")right 0.1em center/9px no-repeat}.mw-parser-output .cs1-ws-icon a{background:url("//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/4c/Wikisource-logo.svg")right 0.1em center/12px no-repeat}body:not(.skin-timeless):not(.skin-minerva) .mw-parser-output .id-lock-free a,body:not(.skin-timeless):not(.skin-minerva) .mw-parser-output .id-lock-limited a,body:not(.skin-timeless):not(.skin-minerva) .mw-parser-output .id-lock-registration a,body:not(.skin-timeless):not(.skin-minerva) .mw-parser-output .id-lock-subscription a,body:not(.skin-timeless):not(.skin-minerva) .mw-parser-output .cs1-ws-icon a{background-size:contain;padding:0 1em 0 0}.mw-parser-output .cs1-code{color:inherit;background:inherit;border:none;padding:inherit}.mw-parser-output .cs1-hidden-error{display:none;color:var(--color-error,#d33)}.mw-parser-output .cs1-visible-error{color:var(--color-error,#d33)}.mw-parser-output .cs1-maint{display:none;color:#085;margin-left:0.3em}.mw-parser-output .cs1-kern-left{padding-left:0.2em}.mw-parser-output .cs1-kern-right{padding-right:0.2em}.mw-parser-output .citation .mw-selflink{font-weight:inherit}@media screen{.mw-parser-output .cs1-format{font-size:95%}html.skin-theme-clientpref-night .mw-parser-output .cs1-maint{color:#18911f}}@media screen and (prefers-color-scheme:dark){html.skin-theme-clientpref-os .mw-parser-output .cs1-maint{color:#18911f}}</style><cite id="CITEREFAntarctic_REMA_Explorer" class="citation cs2"><a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://livingatlas2.arcgis.com/antarcticdemexplorer/"><i>Antarctic REMA Explorer</i></a>, Polar Geospatial Center. <a href="/wiki/University_of_Minnesota" title="University of Minnesota">University of Minnesota</a>, 2019<span class="reference-accessdate">, retrieved <span class="nowrap">2024-06-03</span></span></cite><span title="ctx_ver=Z39.88-2004&rft_val_fmt=info%3Aofi%2Ffmt%3Akev%3Amtx%3Abook&rft.genre=book&rft.btitle=Antarctic+REMA+Explorer&rft.pub=Polar+Geospatial+Center.+University+of+Minnesota&rft.date=2019&rft_id=https%3A%2F%2Flivingatlas2.arcgis.com%2Fantarcticdemexplorer%2F&rfr_id=info%3Asid%2Fen.wikipedia.org%3AUser+talk%3AApcbg" class="Z3988"></span></li></ul> <p>Any problems with the wording? <a href="/wiki/User:Aymatth2" title="User:Aymatth2">Aymatth2</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Aymatth2" title="User talk:Aymatth2">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Apcbg#c-Aymatth2-20240604003800-Antarctic_REMA_Explorer" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:38, 4 June 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Aymatth2-20240604003800-Antarctic_REMA_Explorer"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Aymatth2-20240604003800-Antarctic_REMA_Explorer"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Apcbg-20240604064300-Aymatth2-20240604003800"></span>The wording is now okay I believe. <a href="/wiki/User:Apcbg" title="User:Apcbg">Apcbg</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Apcbg#c-Apcbg-20240604064300-Aymatth2-20240604003800" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">06:43, 4 June 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Apcbg-20240604064300-Aymatth2-20240604003800"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Apcbg-20240604064300-Aymatth2-20240604003800"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Aymatth2-20240604081800-Apcbg-20240604064300"></span>Thanks. I have changed <a href="/wiki/Sj%C3%B6gren_Glacier" title="Sjögren Glacier">Sjögren Glacier</a> to use that style as an example. But on second thoughts I am not really comfortable with <span class="nowrap">{{</span><a href="/wiki/Template:Using_Antarctic_REMA_Explorer" title="Template:Using Antarctic REMA Explorer">Using Antarctic REMA Explorer</a><span class="nowrap">}}</span>. See <a href="/wiki/MOS:DONTHIDE" class="mw-redirect" title="MOS:DONTHIDE">MOS:DONTHIDE</a>. An article should be purely a discussion of the topic and should not include information to editors on how to research, even if it is hidden in the list of sources at the back. I have to think more about this. <a href="/wiki/User:Aymatth2" title="User:Aymatth2">Aymatth2</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Aymatth2" title="User talk:Aymatth2">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Apcbg#c-Aymatth2-20240604081800-Apcbg-20240604064300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">08:18, 4 June 2024 (UTC)</a> tell<span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Aymatth2-20240604081800-Apcbg-20240604064300"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Aymatth2-20240604081800-Apcbg-20240604064300"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Aymatth2-20240604090400-Aymatth2-20240604081800"></span>I have tweaked the wording so it tells a reader (rather then an editor) how to use the tool to see information about the feature. I think that works. If a reader wants to check REMA explorer to see if it says what the article says, this tells them how to do it. <a href="/wiki/User:Aymatth2" title="User:Aymatth2">Aymatth2</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Aymatth2" title="User talk:Aymatth2">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Apcbg#c-Aymatth2-20240604090400-Aymatth2-20240604081800" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:04, 4 June 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Aymatth2-20240604090400-Aymatth2-20240604081800"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Aymatth2-20240604090400-Aymatth2-20240604081800"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Apcbg-20240604092600-Aymatth2-20240604090400"></span>Or you may give these instructions just once, in a brief article on REMA, and then link to it whenever necessary. <a href="/wiki/User:Apcbg" title="User:Apcbg">Apcbg</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Apcbg#c-Apcbg-20240604092600-Aymatth2-20240604090400" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:26, 4 June 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Apcbg-20240604092600-Aymatth2-20240604090400"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Apcbg-20240604092600-Aymatth2-20240604090400"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Aymatth2-20240604161900-Apcbg-20240604092600"></span>I started an article for <a href="/wiki/Reference_Elevation_Model_of_Antarctica" title="Reference Elevation Model of Antarctica">Reference Elevation Model of Antarctica</a>, but the instructions do not really belong there. I think <span class="nowrap">{{</span><a href="/wiki/Template:Using_Antarctic_REMA_Explorer" title="Template:Using Antarctic REMA Explorer">Using Antarctic REMA Explorer</a><span class="nowrap">}}</span> works with the shift of emphasis to reader rather than editor. It would be better if we could pass the coordinates and viewing preferences to REMA Explorer as parameters, so the reader would be taken straight to the contour map, but that does not seem to be an option. <a href="/wiki/User:Aymatth2" title="User:Aymatth2">Aymatth2</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Aymatth2" title="User talk:Aymatth2">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Apcbg#c-Aymatth2-20240604161900-Apcbg-20240604092600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:19, 4 June 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Aymatth2-20240604161900-Apcbg-20240604092600"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Aymatth2-20240604161900-Apcbg-20240604092600"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Apcbg-20240604184600-Aymatth2-20240604161900"></span>Thanks for the clarification, and for starting the REMA article; it seems appropriate to have one, indeed. 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