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href="#c-Mu301-2020-09-23T18:22:00.000Z-Social_Crypto_Libertarianism">4 years ago</a> by Mu301 in topic <a href="#Social_Crypto_Libertarianism">Social Crypto Libertarianism</a></div></div></div> <div id="mw-content-text" class="mw-body-content"><div class="mw-content-ltr mw-parser-output" lang="en" dir="ltr"><div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-Dave_Braunschweig-2014-08-28T13:21:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-No_Solicitation-2014-08-28T13:21:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-Dave_Braunschweig-2014-08-28T13:21:00.000Z-No_Solicitation&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;No Solicitation&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;No Solicitation&quot;}--><h2 id="No_Solicitation" data-mw-thread-id="h-No_Solicitation-2014-08-28T13:21:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-No_Solicitation-2014-08-28T13:21:00.000Z"></span>No Solicitation<span data-mw-comment-end="h-No_Solicitation-2014-08-28T13:21:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:VictorPorton&amp;action=edit&amp;section=1" title="Edit section&#039;s source code: No Solicitation"><span>edit source</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-timestampLabel'>Latest comment: <a href="#c-Dave_Braunschweig-2014-08-28T13:21:00.000Z-No_Solicitation">10 years ago</a></span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-commentCountLabel'>1 comment</span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-authorCountLabel'>1 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Solicitation for external organizations and websites is not accepted. I've moved the external link on <a href="/wiki/Automatic_transformation_of_XML_namespaces" title="Automatic transformation of XML namespaces">Automatic transformation of XML namespaces</a> to the talk page. Users who are interested can still find the information, but because of the Donate link on the destination page, this is solicitation and not appropriate for the article. -- <a href="/wiki/User:Dave_Braunschweig" title="User:Dave Braunschweig">Dave Braunschweig</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Dave_Braunschweig" title="User talk:Dave Braunschweig">discuss</a> • <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Dave_Braunschweig" title="Special:Contributions/Dave Braunschweig">contribs</a>) <a href="https://en.wikiversity.org/wiki/User_talk:VictorPorton#c-Dave_Braunschweig-2014-08-28T13:21:00.000Z-No_Solicitation" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:21, 28 August 2014 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Dave_Braunschweig-2014-08-28T13:21:00.000Z-No_Solicitation"><span id="ooui-php-1" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reply</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Dave_Braunschweig-2014-08-28T13:21:00.000Z-No_Solicitation"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-Dave_Braunschweig-2019-06-21T12:43:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-Can_Human_Rights_Be_Accomplished_Experiment-2019-06-21T12:43:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-Dave_Braunschweig-2019-06-21T12:43:00.000Z-Can_Human_Rights_Be_Accomplished_Experiment&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Can Human Rights Be Accomplished Experiment&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;Can Human Rights Be Accomplished Experiment&quot;}--><h2 id="Can_Human_Rights_Be_Accomplished_Experiment" data-mw-thread-id="h-Can_Human_Rights_Be_Accomplished_Experiment-2019-06-21T12:43:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Can_Human_Rights_Be_Accomplished_Experiment-2019-06-21T12:43:00.000Z"></span>Can Human Rights Be Accomplished Experiment<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Can_Human_Rights_Be_Accomplished_Experiment-2019-06-21T12:43:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:VictorPorton&amp;action=edit&amp;section=2" title="Edit section&#039;s source code: Can Human Rights Be Accomplished Experiment"><span>edit source</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-timestampLabel'>Latest comment: <a href="#c-Dave_Braunschweig-2019-06-21T12:43:00.000Z-Can_Human_Rights_Be_Accomplished_Experiment">5 years ago</a></span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-commentCountLabel'>1 comment</span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-authorCountLabel'>1 person in discussion</span></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-Dave_Braunschweig-2019-06-21T12:43:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-Can_Human_Rights_Be_Accomplished_Experiment-2019-06-21T12:43:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-Dave_Braunschweig-2019-06-21T12:43:00.000Z-Can_Human_Rights_Be_Accomplished_Experiment&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Can Human Rights Be Accomplished Experiment&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;Can Human Rights Be Accomplished Experiment&quot;}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Dave_Braunschweig-2019-06-21T12:43:00.000Z-Can_Human_Rights_Be_Accomplished_Experiment"></span>This resource is not accepted at Wikiversity. A blog would be a better choice for this type of resource. -- <a href="/wiki/User:Dave_Braunschweig" title="User:Dave Braunschweig">Dave Braunschweig</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Dave_Braunschweig" title="User talk:Dave Braunschweig">discuss</a> • <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Dave_Braunschweig" title="Special:Contributions/Dave Braunschweig">contribs</a>) <a href="https://en.wikiversity.org/wiki/User_talk:VictorPorton#c-Dave_Braunschweig-2019-06-21T12:43:00.000Z-Can_Human_Rights_Be_Accomplished_Experiment" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:43, 21 June 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Dave_Braunschweig-2019-06-21T12:43:00.000Z-Can_Human_Rights_Be_Accomplished_Experiment"><span id="ooui-php-2" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reply</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Dave_Braunschweig-2019-06-21T12:43:00.000Z-Can_Human_Rights_Be_Accomplished_Experiment"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-Dave_Braunschweig-2020-09-16T23:51:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-Social_Crypto_Libertarianism-2020-09-16T23:51:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-Dave_Braunschweig-2020-09-16T23:51:00.000Z-Social_Crypto_Libertarianism&quot;,&quot;c-Dave_Braunschweig-2020-09-17T23:00:00.000Z-Social_Crypto_Libertarianism&quot;,&quot;c-Mu301-2020-09-23T18:22:00.000Z-Social_Crypto_Libertarianism&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Social Crypto Libertarianism&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;Social Crypto Libertarianism&quot;}--><h2 id="Social_Crypto_Libertarianism" data-mw-thread-id="h-Social_Crypto_Libertarianism-2020-09-16T23:51:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Social_Crypto_Libertarianism-2020-09-16T23:51:00.000Z"></span>Social Crypto Libertarianism<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Social_Crypto_Libertarianism-2020-09-16T23:51:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:VictorPorton&amp;action=edit&amp;section=3" title="Edit section&#039;s source code: Social Crypto Libertarianism"><span>edit source</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-timestampLabel'>Latest comment: <a href="#c-Mu301-2020-09-23T18:22:00.000Z-Social_Crypto_Libertarianism">4 years ago</a></span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-commentCountLabel'>9 comments</span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-authorCountLabel'>3 people in discussion</span></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-Dave_Braunschweig-2020-09-16T23:51:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-Social_Crypto_Libertarianism-2020-09-16T23:51:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-Dave_Braunschweig-2020-09-16T23:51:00.000Z-Social_Crypto_Libertarianism&quot;,&quot;c-Dave_Braunschweig-2020-09-17T23:00:00.000Z-Social_Crypto_Libertarianism&quot;,&quot;c-Mu301-2020-09-23T18:22:00.000Z-Social_Crypto_Libertarianism&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Social Crypto Libertarianism&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;Social Crypto Libertarianism&quot;}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Dave_Braunschweig-2020-09-16T23:51:00.000Z-Social_Crypto_Libertarianism"></span>This project is a violation of <a href="/wiki/Wikiversity:Deletions" title="Wikiversity:Deletions">Wikiversity:Deletions</a> policy regarding solicitation. It has been deleted. This is your second or third attempt to use Wikiversity to "generate direct financial benefit to the contributor." Your account is now blocked. You are welcome to appeal this block, but you will need to provide specific goals for your contributions that do not mention you personally, and do not link to any external resources which would directly or indirectly provide benefit to you, the contributor. -- <a href="/wiki/User:Dave_Braunschweig" title="User:Dave Braunschweig">Dave Braunschweig</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Dave_Braunschweig" title="User talk:Dave Braunschweig">discuss</a> • <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Dave_Braunschweig" title="Special:Contributions/Dave Braunschweig">contribs</a>) <a href="https://en.wikiversity.org/wiki/User_talk:VictorPorton#c-Dave_Braunschweig-2020-09-16T23:51:00.000Z-Social_Crypto_Libertarianism" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:51, 16 September 2020 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Dave_Braunschweig-2020-09-16T23:51:00.000Z-Social_Crypto_Libertarianism"><span id="ooui-php-3" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reply</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Dave_Braunschweig-2020-09-16T23:51:00.000Z-Social_Crypto_Libertarianism"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-VictorPorton-2020-09-17T00:05:00.000Z-Dave_Braunschweig-2020-09-16T23:51:00.000Z"></span>I disagree with you that this project is a violation of <a href="/wiki/Wikiversity:Deletions" title="Wikiversity:Deletions">Wikiversity:Deletions</a> policy regarding solicitation. This policy is "Solicitation for products, services, companies, events, people or other things with no educational merit or which generate direct financial benefit to the contributor." It is not a violation because it a. educates about a software and b. helps to conduct a scientific experiment that is provides an educational merit. 2. My service may generate <i>indirect</i> financial benefit to the contributor, not the direct one. Namely my service is intended to change the global world in such a way that <i>everyone</i> (including me) would benefit from his or her contributions. So your statement saying that I generate direct benefit to myself is quite like saying: We don't allow posting from Wright brothers, because it generates a direct benefit for them, as they after the experiment gain a new financial ability, to buy air tickets. Please explain what you mean by "providing specific goals for your contributions that do not mention me personally". I didn't understand this your phrase. I do not link to any external resources which would directly or indirectly provide benefit to me, the contributor. (I link to <a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="https://reward.portonvictor.org">https://reward.portonvictor.org</a> but it does not benefit me personally as all the money accepted for the project is to be used for the research, not my personal benefit.) --<a href="/wiki/User:VictorPorton" title="User:VictorPorton">VictorPorton</a> (<a class="mw-selflink selflink">discuss</a> • <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/VictorPorton" title="Special:Contributions/VictorPorton">contribs</a>) <a href="https://en.wikiversity.org/wiki/User_talk:VictorPorton#c-VictorPorton-2020-09-17T00:05:00.000Z-Dave_Braunschweig-2020-09-16T23:51:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:05, 17 September 2020 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-VictorPorton-2020-09-17T00:05:00.000Z-Dave_Braunschweig-2020-09-16T23:51:00.000Z"><span id="ooui-php-4" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reply</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-VictorPorton-2020-09-17T00:05:00.000Z-Dave_Braunschweig-2020-09-16T23:51:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-VictorPorton-2020-09-17T00:17:00.000Z-Dave_Braunschweig-2020-09-16T23:51:00.000Z"></span>Dave, also please take into account that I just <i>forgot</i> that my site takes donations before posting a link to it. Is it enough and/or necessary to remove the donation link from my site to unblock my account and restore the deleted pages? --<a href="/wiki/User:VictorPorton" title="User:VictorPorton">VictorPorton</a> (<a class="mw-selflink selflink">discuss</a> • <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/VictorPorton" title="Special:Contributions/VictorPorton">contribs</a>) <a href="https://en.wikiversity.org/wiki/User_talk:VictorPorton#c-VictorPorton-2020-09-17T00:17:00.000Z-Dave_Braunschweig-2020-09-16T23:51:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:17, 17 September 2020 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-VictorPorton-2020-09-17T00:17:00.000Z-Dave_Braunschweig-2020-09-16T23:51:00.000Z"><span id="ooui-php-5" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reply</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-VictorPorton-2020-09-17T00:17:00.000Z-Dave_Braunschweig-2020-09-16T23:51:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Dave_Braunschweig-2020-09-17T16:19:00.000Z-VictorPorton-2020-09-17T00:17:00.000Z"></span>Your contributions have indicated a clear intent to use Wikiversity for direct financial gain. For example, the first paragraph of the deleted <a href="/w/index.php?title=Social_Crypto_Libertarianism/Proposed_Committee_Rules&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="Social Crypto Libertarianism/Proposed Committee Rules (page does not exist)">Social Crypto Libertarianism/Proposed Committee Rules</a> stated, "The committee members can be either volunteer or paid (contact <i>[VictorPorton's personal email address]</i> if you want to participate). In any case the committee member can vote to allocate funds to themselves to make a business of this work." This is a violation of Wikiversity policy.</dd> <dd>The requirements for being unblocked are stated above. "... you will need to provide specific goals for your contributions that do not mention you personally, and do not link to any external resources which would directly or indirectly provide benefit to you, the contributor."</dd> <dd><a href="/wiki/User:Dave_Braunschweig" title="User:Dave Braunschweig">Dave Braunschweig</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Dave_Braunschweig" title="User talk:Dave Braunschweig">discuss</a> • <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Dave_Braunschweig" title="Special:Contributions/Dave Braunschweig">contribs</a>) <a href="https://en.wikiversity.org/wiki/User_talk:VictorPorton#c-Dave_Braunschweig-2020-09-17T16:19:00.000Z-VictorPorton-2020-09-17T00:17:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:19, 17 September 2020 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Dave_Braunschweig-2020-09-17T16:19:00.000Z-VictorPorton-2020-09-17T00:17:00.000Z"><span id="ooui-php-6" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reply</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Dave_Braunschweig-2020-09-17T16:19:00.000Z-VictorPorton-2020-09-17T00:17:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Dave_Braunschweig-2020-09-17T18:24:00.000Z-Dave_Braunschweig-2020-09-17T16:19:00.000Z"></span>Dave, it seems that you just misunderstood. I am going to pay to committee members, not they to me. (I am financing a research.) It is a direct financial lost, not a direct financial gain. Committee members can allocate money to themselves, I didn't say that they allocate money to me. The goal of the project on the Wikiversity is to check whether my model of committees is sustainable (whether the committees will reproduce). They provide benefits equally to all the humanity as every scientific research. So I complied to your requirement "to provide specific goals for your contributions that do not mention you personally, and do not link to any external resources which would directly or indirectly provide benefit to you, the contributor". If I didn't comply to something in it, please explain what exactly. If I need to remove the donation link at my site before being unblocked, please tell me so. So, I expect that you unblock me and restore the deleted articles. If not, explain why exactly.</dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd>You cannot use Wikiversity for direct financial benefit. Not for you, not for them. This research project is not compatible with Wikiversity policy.</dd> <dd>Your account will remain blocked until sometime in the future, when and if you return with a different project and a different approach. As noted, it must be a project that does not mention you personally, and does not link to any external resources which would directly or indirectly provide benefit to you. -- <a href="/wiki/User:Dave_Braunschweig" title="User:Dave Braunschweig">Dave Braunschweig</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Dave_Braunschweig" title="User talk:Dave Braunschweig">discuss</a> • <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Dave_Braunschweig" title="Special:Contributions/Dave Braunschweig">contribs</a>) <a href="https://en.wikiversity.org/wiki/User_talk:VictorPorton#c-Dave_Braunschweig-2020-09-17T18:24:00.000Z-Dave_Braunschweig-2020-09-17T16:19:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:24, 17 September 2020 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Dave_Braunschweig-2020-09-17T18:24:00.000Z-Dave_Braunschweig-2020-09-17T16:19:00.000Z"><span id="ooui-php-7" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reply</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Dave_Braunschweig-2020-09-17T18:24:00.000Z-Dave_Braunschweig-2020-09-17T16:19:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-VictorPorton-2020-09-17T18:33:00.000Z-Dave_Braunschweig-2020-09-17T18:24:00.000Z"></span>I am surprised that your rules disallow me to offer my money to a third party (never heard about any set of rules that would disallow this, I also don't understand the rationale behind this rule). Well, I will remove the proposal to pay them money. I will also remove the donation link from my site. Now OK? Will you unblock me now and allow me to restore the pages (I need your copy.) and remove the proposal to pay money to the participants? Or do I need to do anything else to comply? --<a href="/wiki/User:VictorPorton" title="User:VictorPorton">VictorPorton</a> (<a class="mw-selflink selflink">discuss</a> • <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/VictorPorton" title="Special:Contributions/VictorPorton">contribs</a>) <a href="https://en.wikiversity.org/wiki/User_talk:VictorPorton#c-VictorPorton-2020-09-17T18:33:00.000Z-Dave_Braunschweig-2020-09-17T18:24:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:33, 17 September 2020 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-VictorPorton-2020-09-17T18:33:00.000Z-Dave_Braunschweig-2020-09-17T18:24:00.000Z"><span id="ooui-php-8" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reply</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-VictorPorton-2020-09-17T18:33:00.000Z-Dave_Braunschweig-2020-09-17T18:24:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Dave_Braunschweig-2020-09-17T23:00:00.000Z-Social_Crypto_Libertarianism"></span>The proposed research is not appropriate for Wikiversity. It is based on financial reward and involves experimenting on human psychology. We cannot approve or support that. You will need to find another venue. I will email a copy of the deleted content so you can create it elsewhere. -- <a href="/wiki/User:Dave_Braunschweig" title="User:Dave Braunschweig">Dave Braunschweig</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Dave_Braunschweig" title="User talk:Dave Braunschweig">discuss</a> • <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Dave_Braunschweig" title="Special:Contributions/Dave Braunschweig">contribs</a>) <a href="https://en.wikiversity.org/wiki/User_talk:VictorPorton#c-Dave_Braunschweig-2020-09-17T23:00:00.000Z-Social_Crypto_Libertarianism" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:00, 17 September 2020 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Dave_Braunschweig-2020-09-17T23:00:00.000Z-Social_Crypto_Libertarianism"><span id="ooui-php-9" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reply</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Dave_Braunschweig-2020-09-17T23:00:00.000Z-Social_Crypto_Libertarianism"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-VictorPorton-2020-09-17T23:09:00.000Z-Dave_Braunschweig-2020-09-17T23:00:00.000Z"></span>Dave, could you explain which rules of Wikiversity disallow financial rewards during an experiment and which disallow experimenting on human psychology? (I realize that an experiment should not harm, but there is no foreseen harm of this experiment.) OK, as you insist that this experiment is not appropriate for Wikiverity, I stop using Wikiversity for this. But please unblock my account for my <a href="/wiki/Automatic_transformation_of_XML_namespaces" title="Automatic transformation of XML namespaces">Automatic_transformation_of_XML_namespaces</a> project. --<a href="/wiki/User:VictorPorton" title="User:VictorPorton">VictorPorton</a> (<a class="mw-selflink selflink">discuss</a> • <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/VictorPorton" title="Special:Contributions/VictorPorton">contribs</a>) <a href="https://en.wikiversity.org/wiki/User_talk:VictorPorton#c-VictorPorton-2020-09-17T23:09:00.000Z-Dave_Braunschweig-2020-09-17T23:00:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:09, 17 September 2020 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-VictorPorton-2020-09-17T23:09:00.000Z-Dave_Braunschweig-2020-09-17T23:00:00.000Z"><span id="ooui-php-10" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reply</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-VictorPorton-2020-09-17T23:09:00.000Z-Dave_Braunschweig-2020-09-17T23:00:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Mu301-2020-09-23T18:22:00.000Z-Social_Crypto_Libertarianism"></span><style data-mw-deduplicate="TemplateStyles:r2661601">.mw-parser-output .tmbox{margin:4px 0;border-collapse:collapse;border:1px solid #c0c090;background-color:#f8eaba;box-sizing:border-box}.mw-parser-output .tmbox.mbox-small{font-size:88%;line-height:1.25em}.mw-parser-output .tmbox-speedy{border:2px solid #b32424;background-color:#fee7e6}.mw-parser-output .tmbox-delete{border:2px solid #b32424}.mw-parser-output .tmbox-content{border:2px solid #f28500}.mw-parser-output .tmbox-style{border:2px solid #fc3}.mw-parser-output .tmbox-move{border:2px solid #9932cc}.mw-parser-output .tmbox .mbox-text{border:none;padding:0.25em 0.9em;width:100%}.mw-parser-output .tmbox .mbox-image{border:none;padding:2px 0 2px 0.9em;text-align:center}.mw-parser-output .tmbox .mbox-imageright{border:none;padding:2px 0.9em 2px 0;text-align:center}.mw-parser-output .tmbox .mbox-empty-cell{border:none;padding:0;width:1px}.mw-parser-output .tmbox .mbox-invalid-type{text-align:center}@media(min-width:720px){.mw-parser-output .tmbox{margin:4px 10%}.mw-parser-output .tmbox.mbox-small{clear:right;float:right;margin:4px 0 4px 1em;width:238px}}</style><table class="plainlinks tmbox tmbox-notice" role="presentation"><tbody><tr><td class="mbox-image"><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Gnome-colors-window-close.svg" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/75/Gnome-colors-window-close.svg/40px-Gnome-colors-window-close.svg.png" decoding="async" width="40" height="40" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/75/Gnome-colors-window-close.svg/60px-Gnome-colors-window-close.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/75/Gnome-colors-window-close.svg/80px-Gnome-colors-window-close.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="48" data-file-height="48"/></a></span></td><td class="mbox-text"><b>Note:</b> Please check your block log linked below. 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