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If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Royalty_and_Nobility" title="Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Royalty and Nobility">the discussion</a> and see a list of open tasks.<span class="metadata wpb-metadata"><span class="wpb-project">Royalty and Nobility</span><span class="wpb-project_link">Wikipedia:WikiProject Royalty and Nobility</span><span class="wpb-banner_name">Template:WikiProject Royalty and Nobility</span><span class="wpb-assessment_cat">Royalty and Nobility articles</span></span></td><td class="mbox-empty-cell"></td></tr></tbody></table></td></tr></tbody></table></td></tr></tbody></table> <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1237879475"><table class="box-To_do plainlinks tmbox tmbox-notice" role="presentation"><tbody><tr><td class="mbox-empty-cell"></td><td class="mbox-text"><div class="mw-notalk"> <p><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/54/Stock_post_message.svg/25px-Stock_post_message.svg.png" decoding="async" width="25" height="25" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/54/Stock_post_message.svg/38px-Stock_post_message.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/54/Stock_post_message.svg/50px-Stock_post_message.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="40" data-file-height="40"/></span></span> <b><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:To-do_list" title="Wikipedia:To-do list">To-do list</a> for <a href="/wiki/Template:Monarchies" title="Template:Monarchies">Template:Monarchies</a>:</b> <span class="noprint plainlinks" style="float: right; text-align: right; font-size: 88%"><a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template_talk:Monarchies/to_do&action=edit&preload=Template:Tasks/Preload">edit</a> <b>·</b> <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template_talk:Monarchies/to_do&action=history">history</a> <b>·</b> <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template_talk:Monarchies/to_do&action=watch">watch</a> <b>·</b> <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template_talk:Monarchies&action=purge">refresh</a> <b>·</b> Updated 2010-11-06</span> </p> <div style="clear:both;" class=""></div> <div class="todo-box" style="border:1px dotted gray; padding: 2px 4px;"> <p> </p> <ul><li>Match "subnational" section with monarchies listed on <a href="/wiki/List_of_current_constituent_monarchs" class="mw-redirect" title="List of current constituent monarchs">List of current constituent monarchs</a></li></ul> </div> </div></td></tr></tbody></table> <meta property="mw:PageProp/toc"/> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Americas" data-mw-thread-id="h-Americas-2016-05-17T06:30:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Americas-2016-05-17T06:30:00.000Z"></span>Americas<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Americas-2016-05-17T06:30:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Template_talk:Monarchies&action=edit&section=1" title="Edit section: Americas"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-UeArtemis-2016-05-17T06:30:00.000Z-Americas"></span>Canada?--<a href="/wiki/User:UeArtemis" title="User:UeArtemis">Юе Артеміс</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:UeArtemis" title="User talk:UeArtemis">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template_talk:Monarchies#c-UeArtemis-2016-05-17T06:30:00.000Z-Americas" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">06:30, 17 May 2016 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-UeArtemis-2016-05-17T06:30:00.000Z-Americas"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-UeArtemis-2016-05-17T06:30:00.000Z-Americas"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Several_missing_European_monarchies" data-mw-thread-id="h-Several_missing_European_monarchies-2016-06-20T03:52:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Several_missing_European_monarchies-2016-06-20T03:52:00.000Z"></span>Several missing European monarchies<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Several_missing_European_monarchies-2016-06-20T03:52:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Template_talk:Monarchies&action=edit&section=2" title="Edit section: Several missing European monarchies"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-108.38.97.130-2016-06-20T03:52:00.000Z-Several_missing_European_monarchies"></span>Why are <a href="/wiki/Monarchy_of_Luxembourg" title="Monarchy of Luxembourg">Luxembourg</a>, <a href="/wiki/Monarchy_of_Liechtenstein" title="Monarchy of Liechtenstein">Liechtenstein</a> and <a href="/wiki/Monarchy_of_Monaco" title="Monarchy of Monaco">Monaco</a> omitted from the list of European monarchies? The article for <a href="/wiki/European_monarchies" class="mw-redirect" title="European monarchies">European monarchies</a> explicitly states that there are currently 12 sovereign monarchies in Europe, which doesn't include the Order of Malta in its article. So, why is the Order of Malta included in this template? <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/108.38.97.130" title="Special:Contributions/108.38.97.130">108.38.97.130</a> (<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:108.38.97.130&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:108.38.97.130 (page does not exist)">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template_talk:Monarchies#c-108.38.97.130-2016-06-20T03:52:00.000Z-Several_missing_European_monarchies" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">03:52, 20 June 2016 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-108.38.97.130-2016-06-20T03:52:00.000Z-Several_missing_European_monarchies"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-108.38.97.130-2016-06-20T03:52:00.000Z-Several_missing_European_monarchies"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Edit_request" data-mw-thread-id="h-Edit_request-2018-05-18T07:36:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Edit_request-2018-05-18T07:36:00.000Z"></span>Edit request<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Edit_request-2018-05-18T07:36:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Template_talk:Monarchies&action=edit&section=3" title="Edit section: Edit request"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-65.94.42.219-2018-05-18T07:36:00.000Z-Edit_request"></span><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1237879475"><table class="plainlinks tmbox mbox-small tmbox-notice editrequest" role="presentation" data-origlevel="semi"><tbody><tr><td class="mbox-image"><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/1/1d/Information_icon4.svg/30px-Information_icon4.svg.png" decoding="async" width="30" height="30" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/1/1d/Information_icon4.svg/45px-Information_icon4.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/1/1d/Information_icon4.svg/60px-Information_icon4.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="620" data-file-height="620"/></span></span></td><td class="mbox-text">This <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Edit_requests" title="Wikipedia:Edit requests">edit request</a> has been answered. Set the <code style="white-space: nowrap;">|answered=</code> or <code style="white-space: nowrap;">|ans=</code> parameter to <b>no</b> to reactivate your request.</td></tr></tbody></table> <ul><li><a href="/wiki/Monarchy_of_Greenland" class="mw-redirect" title="Monarchy of Greenland">Monarchy of Greenland</a> should be added to the Americas section</li></ul> <p>Change </p> <pre>|group5 = [[Monarchies in the Americas|Americas]] |list5 = * [[Monarchy of Antigua and Barbuda|Antigua and Barbuda]] * [[Monarchy of the Bahamas|Bahamas]] * [[Monarchy of Barbados|Barbados]] * [[Monarchy of Belize|Belize]] * [[Monarchy of Canada|Canada]] * [[Monarchy of Grenada|Grenada]] * [[Monarchy of Jamaica|Jamaica]] * [[Monarchy of Saint Kitts and Nevis|Saint Kitts and Nevis]] * [[Monarchy of Saint Lucia|Saint Lucia]] * [[Monarchy of Saint Vincent and the Grenadines|Saint Vincent and the Grenadines]] </pre> <p>to </p> <pre>|group5 = [[Monarchies in the Americas|Americas]] |list5 = * [[Monarchy of Antigua and Barbuda|Antigua and Barbuda]] * [[Monarchy of the Bahamas|Bahamas]] * [[Monarchy of Barbados|Barbados]] * [[Monarchy of Belize|Belize]] * [[Monarchy of Canada|Canada]] * [[Monarchy of Greenland|Greenland]] * [[Monarchy of Grenada|Grenada]] * [[Monarchy of Jamaica|Jamaica]] * [[Monarchy of Saint Kitts and Nevis|Saint Kitts and Nevis]] * [[Monarchy of Saint Lucia|Saint Lucia]] * [[Monarchy of Saint Vincent and the Grenadines|Saint Vincent and the Grenadines]] </pre> <p>-- <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/65.94.42.219" title="Special:Contributions/65.94.42.219">65.94.42.219</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:65.94.42.219" title="User talk:65.94.42.219">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template_talk:Monarchies#c-65.94.42.219-2018-05-18T07:36:00.000Z-Edit_request" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">07:36, 18 May 2018 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-65.94.42.219-2018-05-18T07:36:00.000Z-Edit_request"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-65.94.42.219-2018-05-18T07:36:00.000Z-Edit_request"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-L293D-2018-05-18T12:10:00.000Z-65.94.42.219-2018-05-18T07:36:00.000Z"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/20px-Yes_check.svg.png" decoding="async" width="20" height="20" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/30px-Yes_check.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/40px-Yes_check.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="600" data-file-height="600"/></span></span> <b>Done</b> <span style="text-shadow:#396 0.2em 0.2em 0.5em; class=texhtml"><a href="/wiki/User:L293D" title="User:L293D"><b style="color:#060">L293D</b></a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:L293D#top" title="User talk:L293D"><b style="color:#000">☎</b></a> • <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/L293D" title="Special:Contributions/L293D"><b style="color:#000">✎</b></a>)</span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template_talk:Monarchies#c-L293D-2018-05-18T12:10:00.000Z-65.94.42.219-2018-05-18T07:36:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:10, 18 May 2018 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-L293D-2018-05-18T12:10:00.000Z-65.94.42.219-2018-05-18T07:36:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-L293D-2018-05-18T12:10:00.000Z-65.94.42.219-2018-05-18T07:36:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="SMOM" data-mw-thread-id="h-SMOM-2019-06-03T11:24:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-SMOM-2019-06-03T11:24:00.000Z"></span>SMOM<span data-mw-comment-end="h-SMOM-2019-06-03T11:24:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Template_talk:Monarchies&action=edit&section=4" title="Edit section: SMOM"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-PPEMES-2019-06-03T11:24:00.000Z-SMOM"></span>Regarding <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template:Monarchies&curid=672148&diff=900006707&oldid=899989734">this edit</a> by <a href="/wiki/User:DrKay" title="User:DrKay">DrKay</a>. How is it not a monarchy? <a href="/wiki/User:PPEMES" title="User:PPEMES">PPEMES</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:PPEMES" title="User talk:PPEMES">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template_talk:Monarchies#c-PPEMES-2019-06-03T11:24:00.000Z-SMOM" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:24, 3 June 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-PPEMES-2019-06-03T11:24:00.000Z-SMOM"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-PPEMES-2019-06-03T11:24:00.000Z-SMOM"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-DrKay-2019-06-03T17:07:00.000Z-PPEMES-2019-06-03T11:24:00.000Z"></span>Discussion is at <a href="/wiki/Talk:Sovereign_Military_Order_of_Malta#Souvereign,_monarchy" title="Talk:Sovereign Military Order of Malta">Talk:Sovereign Military Order of Malta#Souvereign, monarchy</a>. <a href="/wiki/User:DrKay" title="User:DrKay">DrKay</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:DrKay" title="User talk:DrKay">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template_talk:Monarchies#c-DrKay-2019-06-03T17:07:00.000Z-PPEMES-2019-06-03T11:24:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:07, 3 June 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-DrKay-2019-06-03T17:07:00.000Z-PPEMES-2019-06-03T11:24:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-DrKay-2019-06-03T17:07:00.000Z-PPEMES-2019-06-03T11:24:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Middle_East_Monarchy_as_a_separate_region" data-mw-thread-id="h-Middle_East_Monarchy_as_a_separate_region-2021-04-01T03:01:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Middle_East_Monarchy_as_a_separate_region-2021-04-01T03:01:00.000Z"></span>Middle East Monarchy as a separate region<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Middle_East_Monarchy_as_a_separate_region-2021-04-01T03:01:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Template_talk:Monarchies&action=edit&section=5" title="Edit section: Middle East Monarchy as a separate region"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Doremon764-2021-04-01T03:01:00.000Z-Middle_East_Monarchy_as_a_separate_region"></span>Should we make a separate grouping on the list for Middle Eastern Region. <a href="/wiki/User:Doremon764" title="User:Doremon764">Doremon764</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Doremon764" title="User talk:Doremon764">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template_talk:Monarchies#c-Doremon764-2021-04-01T03:01:00.000Z-Middle_East_Monarchy_as_a_separate_region" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">03:01, 1 April 2021 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Doremon764-2021-04-01T03:01:00.000Z-Middle_East_Monarchy_as_a_separate_region"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span 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Set the <code style="white-space: nowrap;">|answered=</code> or <code style="white-space: nowrap;">|ans=</code> parameter to <b>no</b> to reactivate your request.</td></tr></tbody></table> <p>Kingdon of England should be added to the list of Former Monarchies in Europe as it, like the Kingdom of Scotland, ceased to exist in 1707 following the Union of the Crowns. <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/185.186.207.96" title="Special:Contributions/185.186.207.96">185.186.207.96</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:185.186.207.96" title="User talk:185.186.207.96">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template_talk:Monarchies#c-185.186.207.96-2022-06-21T08:15:00.000Z-Semi-protected_edit_request_on_21_June_2022" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">08:15, 21 June 2022 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-185.186.207.96-2022-06-21T08:15:00.000Z-Semi-protected_edit_request_on_21_June_2022"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-185.186.207.96-2022-06-21T08:15:00.000Z-Semi-protected_edit_request_on_21_June_2022"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-AdmiralAckbar1977-2022-06-22T15:06:00.000Z-185.186.207.96-2022-06-21T08:15:00.000Z"></span>See <a href="/wiki/Constitutional_monarchy" title="Constitutional monarchy">Constitutional monarchy</a>. - ~~~ <a href="/wiki/User:AdmiralAckbar1977" title="User:AdmiralAckbar1977">AdmiralAckbar1977</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:AdmiralAckbar1977" title="User talk:AdmiralAckbar1977">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template_talk:Monarchies#c-AdmiralAckbar1977-2022-06-22T15:06:00.000Z-185.186.207.96-2022-06-21T08:15:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:06, 22 June 2022 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-AdmiralAckbar1977-2022-06-22T15:06:00.000Z-185.186.207.96-2022-06-21T08:15:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-AdmiralAckbar1977-2022-06-22T15:06:00.000Z-185.186.207.96-2022-06-21T08:15:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Semi-protected_edit_request_on_19_October_2023" data-mw-thread-id="h-Semi-protected_edit_request_on_19_October_2023-20231019114000"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Semi-protected_edit_request_on_19_October_2023-20231019114000"></span>Semi-protected edit request on 19 October 2023<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Semi-protected_edit_request_on_19_October_2023-20231019114000"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Template_talk:Monarchies&action=edit&section=7" title="Edit section: Semi-protected edit request on 19 October 2023"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-82.84.2.195-20231019114000-Semi-protected_edit_request_on_19_October_2023"></span><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1237879475"><table class="plainlinks tmbox mbox-small tmbox-notice editrequest" role="presentation" data-origlevel="semi"><tbody><tr><td class="mbox-image"><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/1/1d/Information_icon4.svg/30px-Information_icon4.svg.png" decoding="async" width="30" height="30" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/1/1d/Information_icon4.svg/45px-Information_icon4.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/1/1d/Information_icon4.svg/60px-Information_icon4.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="620" data-file-height="620"/></span></span></td><td class="mbox-text">This <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Edit_requests" title="Wikipedia:Edit requests">edit request</a> has been answered. Set the <code style="white-space: nowrap;">|answered=</code> or <code style="white-space: nowrap;">|ans=</code> parameter to <b>no</b> to reactivate your request.</td></tr></tbody></table> <p>I'm unsure if Tavolara should be included considering that there are no contemporary documents, only memoirs published during years later by the Bertoleoni themselves and foreign articles written in the 19th century which seems to simply have took them as true without questioning, which confirm that Charles Albert really did recognize and give to Giuseppe the title of King, only that he visited the island and did recognize him as having property on the island. The only contemporary document is by Alfonso Ferrero La Marmora, a contemporary of the visit of Charles Albert to the island, who confirmed indeed the visit of the island made by Charles Albert and wrote that when he visited the island he became friends with Giuseppe and jocking called him a King since he was the first permanent inhabitant of the island which was uninhabited before his settling of the island, and also recognize his properties on the islands, not sovereignty. Here a link to more information on it: <a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="https://www.transformationsjournal.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/07/Trans35_02_Farinelli.pdf">https://www.transformationsjournal.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/07/Trans35_02_Farinelli.pdf</a> . Also that de facto Sardinia and then Italy always controlled the territory anyway, and indeed Italy also operates a lighthouse on the island by many years currently, which would make this only a micronation and not a country of the past and so for this I'm unsure if it should be included in the list. <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/82.84.2.195" title="Special:Contributions/82.84.2.195">82.84.2.195</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:82.84.2.195" title="User talk:82.84.2.195">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template_talk:Monarchies#c-82.84.2.195-20231019114000-Semi-protected_edit_request_on_19_October_2023" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:40, 19 October 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-82.84.2.195-20231019114000-Semi-protected_edit_request_on_19_October_2023"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-82.84.2.195-20231019114000-Semi-protected_edit_request_on_19_October_2023"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Philroc-20231023081200-82.84.2.195-20231019114000"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/ea/Red_question_icon_with_gradient_background.svg/20px-Red_question_icon_with_gradient_background.svg.png" decoding="async" width="20" height="20" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/ea/Red_question_icon_with_gradient_background.svg/30px-Red_question_icon_with_gradient_background.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/ea/Red_question_icon_with_gradient_background.svg/40px-Red_question_icon_with_gradient_background.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="62" data-file-height="62"/></span></span> <b>Not done:</b> it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:EDITXY" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:EDITXY">"change X to Y" format</a> and provide a <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Reliable_sources" title="Wikipedia:Reliable sources">reliable source</a> if appropriate. <i><a href="/wiki/User:Philroc" title="User:Philroc"><span style="color: #009933; text-shadow: 0px 0px 7px #83D29D;">Philroc</span></a></i> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Philroc" title="User talk:Philroc">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template_talk:Monarchies#c-Philroc-20231023081200-82.84.2.195-20231019114000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">08:12, 23 October 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Philroc-20231023081200-82.84.2.195-20231019114000"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Philroc-20231023081200-82.84.2.195-20231019114000"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-82.84.2.195-20231025182900-Philroc-20231023081200"></span>Basically, I noticed in the former monarchies I noticed it's included also Tavolara as a former kingdom, but I'm unsure if it should be included as a former monarchy of Europe since, at least from what I know, it never really was independent or a sovereign state ruled by Bertoleoni, he and his family simply were the first to permanently settle the islands and when the King of Sardinia visited the island he simply recognized his properties here, not his sovereignty over the island, and only jokingly called him a "King". Which would make I think the Kingdom of Tavolara at most what is called today a micronation.</dd> <dd>For this I think, at least from what I know, that Tavolara shouldn't be included and removed from the list. Of course, if I'm wrong, I'm sorry. <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/82.84.2.195" title="Special:Contributions/82.84.2.195">82.84.2.195</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:82.84.2.195" title="User talk:82.84.2.195">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template_talk:Monarchies#c-82.84.2.195-20231025182900-Philroc-20231023081200" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:29, 25 October 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-82.84.2.195-20231025182900-Philroc-20231023081200"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-82.84.2.195-20231025182900-Philroc-20231023081200"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Chipmunkdavis-20231026020400-82.84.2.195-20231025182900"></span>Putting aside the futility of the concept of a list of former monarchies in Europe, I agree that Tavolara does not belong in the current list. <a href="/wiki/User:Chipmunkdavis" title="User:Chipmunkdavis">CMD</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Chipmunkdavis" title="User talk:Chipmunkdavis">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template_talk:Monarchies#c-Chipmunkdavis-20231026020400-82.84.2.195-20231025182900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">02:04, 26 October 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Chipmunkdavis-20231026020400-82.84.2.195-20231025182900"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Chipmunkdavis-20231026020400-82.84.2.195-20231025182900"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Semi-protected_edit_request_on_26_February_2024" data-mw-thread-id="h-Semi-protected_edit_request_on_26_February_2024-20240226202200"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Semi-protected_edit_request_on_26_February_2024-20240226202200"></span>Semi-protected edit request on 26 February 2024<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Semi-protected_edit_request_on_26_February_2024-20240226202200"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Template_talk:Monarchies&action=edit&section=8" title="Edit section: Semi-protected edit request on 26 February 2024"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-198.30.180.104-20240226202200-Semi-protected_edit_request_on_26_February_2024"></span><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1237879475"><table class="plainlinks tmbox mbox-small tmbox-notice editrequest" role="presentation" data-origlevel="semi"><tbody><tr><td class="mbox-image"><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/1/1d/Information_icon4.svg/30px-Information_icon4.svg.png" decoding="async" width="30" height="30" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/1/1d/Information_icon4.svg/45px-Information_icon4.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/1/1d/Information_icon4.svg/60px-Information_icon4.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="620" data-file-height="620"/></span></span></td><td class="mbox-text">This <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Edit_requests" title="Wikipedia:Edit requests">edit request</a> has been answered. Set the <code style="white-space: nowrap;">|answered=</code> or <code style="white-space: nowrap;">|ans=</code> parameter to <b>no</b> to reactivate your request.</td></tr></tbody></table> <p>I suggest relocating <a href="/wiki/Ottoman_Empire" title="Ottoman Empire">Ottoman Empire</a> to the Asia section, as that empire was predominantly located in the Middle East. <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/198.30.180.104" title="Special:Contributions/198.30.180.104">198.30.180.104</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:198.30.180.104" title="User talk:198.30.180.104">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template_talk:Monarchies#c-198.30.180.104-20240226202200-Semi-protected_edit_request_on_26_February_2024" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:22, 26 February 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-198.30.180.104-20240226202200-Semi-protected_edit_request_on_26_February_2024"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-198.30.180.104-20240226202200-Semi-protected_edit_request_on_26_February_2024"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-LittlePuppers-20240318022700-198.30.180.104-20240226202200"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/1f/Red_information_icon_with_gradient_background.svg/20px-Red_information_icon_with_gradient_background.svg.png" decoding="async" width="20" height="20" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/1f/Red_information_icon_with_gradient_background.svg/30px-Red_information_icon_with_gradient_background.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/1f/Red_information_icon_with_gradient_background.svg/40px-Red_information_icon_with_gradient_background.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="62" data-file-height="62"/></span></span> <b>Not done for now:</b> please establish a <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Consensus" title="Wikipedia:Consensus">consensus</a> for this alteration <b><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Edit_requests" title="Wikipedia:Edit requests">before</a></b> using the <code>{{<a href="/wiki/Template:Edit_semi-protected" title="Template:Edit semi-protected">Edit semi-protected</a>}}</code> template. The Ottoman Empire spanned parts of several continents, and which direction it expanded in varied a lot over time, so I don't see this being an entirely non-controversial change. <a href="/wiki/User:LittlePuppers" title="User:LittlePuppers">LittlePuppers</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:LittlePuppers" title="User talk:LittlePuppers">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template_talk:Monarchies#c-LittlePuppers-20240318022700-198.30.180.104-20240226202200" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">02:27, 18 March 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-LittlePuppers-20240318022700-198.30.180.104-20240226202200"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-LittlePuppers-20240318022700-198.30.180.104-20240226202200"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Scotland_listed_as_former_monarchy" data-mw-thread-id="h-Scotland_listed_as_former_monarchy-20240424151600"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Scotland_listed_as_former_monarchy-20240424151600"></span>Scotland listed as former monarchy<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Scotland_listed_as_former_monarchy-20240424151600"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Template_talk:Monarchies&action=edit&section=9" title="Edit section: Scotland listed as former monarchy"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Philip_Stevens-20240424151600-Scotland_listed_as_former_monarchy"></span>Why is Scotland listed as a former monarchy but not England? Surely either both counties should be listed or neither of them. The English and Scottish monarchies have been in personal union since 1603. <a href="/wiki/User:Philip_Stevens" title="User:Philip Stevens">Philip Stevens</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Philip_Stevens" title="User talk:Philip Stevens">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template_talk:Monarchies#c-Philip_Stevens-20240424151600-Scotland_listed_as_former_monarchy" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:16, 24 April 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Philip_Stevens-20240424151600-Scotland_listed_as_former_monarchy"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Philip_Stevens-20240424151600-Scotland_listed_as_former_monarchy"></span> </p>    </div><noscript><img src="https://login.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:CentralAutoLogin/start?type=1x1" alt="" width="1" height="1" style="border: none; position: absolute;"></noscript> <div class="printfooter" data-nosnippet="">Retrieved from "<a dir="ltr" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template_talk:Monarchies&oldid=1233718919">https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template_talk:Monarchies&oldid=1233718919</a>"</div></div> <div id="catlinks" class="catlinks" data-mw="interface"><div id="mw-normal-catlinks" class="mw-normal-catlinks"><a href="/wiki/Help:Category" title="Help:Category">Categories</a>: <ul><li><a href="/wiki/Category:Template-Class_politics_articles" title="Category:Template-Class politics articles">Template-Class politics articles</a></li><li><a href="/wiki/Category:NA-importance_politics_articles" title="Category:NA-importance politics articles">NA-importance politics articles</a></li><li><a href="/wiki/Category:WikiProject_Politics_articles" title="Category:WikiProject Politics articles">WikiProject Politics articles</a></li><li><a href="/wiki/Category:Wikipedia_pages_with_to-do_lists" title="Category:Wikipedia pages with to-do lists">Wikipedia pages with to-do lists</a></li></ul></div></div> </div> </main> </div> <div class="mw-footer-container"> <footer id="footer" class="mw-footer" > <ul id="footer-info"> <li id="footer-info-lastmod"> This page was last edited on 10 July 2024, at 14:55<span class="anonymous-show"> (UTC)</span>.</li> <li id="footer-info-copyright">Text is available under the <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Text_of_the_Creative_Commons_Attribution-ShareAlike_4.0_International_License" title="Wikipedia:Text of the Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike 4.0 International License">Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike 4.0 License</a>; additional terms may apply. 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