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Please see <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Requested_recordings" title="Wikipedia:Requested recordings">Wikipedia:Requested recordings</a> for more on this request.</td></tr></tbody></table> <p><br> </p> </section><div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section section-heading" onclick="mfTempOpenSection(1)"><span class="indicator mf-icon mf-icon-expand mf-icon--small"></span><h2 id="C3_C3_–_D3_D3_–_G3_G4_pitch_error_for_tuning?" data-mw-thread-id="h-C3_C3_–_D3_D3_–_G3_G4_pitch_error_for_tuning?-20220906022600"><span id="C3_C3_.E2.80.93_D3_D3_.E2.80.93_G3_G4_pitch_error_for_tuning.3F"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-C3_C3_–_D3_D3_–_G3_G4_pitch_error_for_tuning?-20220906022600"></span>C3 C3 – D3 D3 – G<b>3</b> G4 pitch error for tuning?<span data-mw-comment-end="h-C3_C3_–_D3_D3_–_G3_G4_pitch_error_for_tuning?-20220906022600"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"> <a role="button" href="/w/index.php?title=Talk:Phandar&action=edit&section=1" title="Edit section: C3 C3 – D3 D3 – G3 G4 pitch error for tuning?" class="cdx-button cdx-button--size-large cdx-button--fake-button cdx-button--fake-button--enabled cdx-button--icon-only cdx-button--weight-quiet "> <span class="minerva-icon minerva-icon--edit"></span> <span>edit</span> </a> </span> <span id='ooui-php-2' class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-overflowMenuButton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-buttonWidget' data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonMenuSelectWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"ellipsis","data":{"itemConfigs":[{"id":"edit","data":{"id":"edit"},"icon":"edit","label":"Edit"}],"resourceLoaderModules":[]},"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-section-overflowMenuButton"]}'><a role='button' tabindex='0' rel='nofollow' class='oo-ui-buttonElement-button'><span class='oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-icon-ellipsis'></span><span class='oo-ui-labelElement-label'></span><span class='oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator'></span></a></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-timestampLabel'>Latest comment: <a href="#c-Astro-Tom-ical-20220906022600-C3_C3_–_D3_D3_–_G3_G4_pitch_error_for_tuning?">2 years ago</a></span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-commentCountLabel'>1 comment</span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-authorCountLabel'>1 person in discussion</span></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div><section class="mf-section-1 collapsible-block" id="mf-section-1"> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Astro-Tom-ical-20220906022600-C3_C3_–_D3_D3_–_G3_G4_pitch_error_for_tuning?"></span>The tuning for a three-string phandar is given as <a href="/wiki/Helmholtz_pitch_notation" title="Helmholtz pitch notation">c–d–g′</a>, which matches with the musical instruments database link. All fine and good. But the pitches given for three-course double-strung tuning is cc–dd–gg′, which is not at all clear: Should the prime on the last <b>g</b> be matched on the prior <b>g</b>, or is it right as-written? </p><p>The <a href="/wiki/Helmholtz_pitch_notation" title="Helmholtz pitch notation">Helmholtz pitch notation</a> cc–dd–gg′ translates to <a href="/wiki/Scientific_pitch_notation" title="Scientific pitch notation">scientific pitch notation</a> <span class="nowrap"> C3 C3 – D3 D3 – G<b>3</b> G4 ,</span> but if the two <b>g</b> strings actually are supposed to be on the <i>same</i> pitch, not an octave apart, it has to be written <span class="nowrap"> cc–dd–g′g′ ;</span> in <a href="/wiki/Helmholtz_pitch_notation" title="Helmholtz pitch notation">Helmholtz notation</a>, each individual note gets its own prime – <i>if</i> that's what's intended. </p><p>So which is it supposed to be, really? </p><p>I can't figure which way it should go by guessing: Lots of double-strung instruments (e.g. <a href="/wiki/Mandolin" title="Mandolin">mandolin</a>-family instruments) have some of the doubled strings (often the lowest pitch) strung to two different octaves, for richer tone. 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