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class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">2 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Deleting_page_"Social_Work_In_India"-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-About_Draft:Adidas_Top_Ten_-_thank_you_for_thanking_me,_but_I_do_note_this_muddle-headed_wombat_may_possibly_have_gotten_things_wrong_here" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#About_Draft:Adidas_Top_Ten_-_thank_you_for_thanking_me,_but_I_do_note_this_muddle-headed_wombat_may_possibly_have_gotten_things_wrong_here"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">9</span> <span>About Draft:Adidas Top Ten - thank you for thanking me, but I do note this muddle-headed wombat may possibly have gotten things wrong here</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">6 comments</span> <ul id="toc-About_Draft:Adidas_Top_Ten_-_thank_you_for_thanking_me,_but_I_do_note_this_muddle-headed_wombat_may_possibly_have_gotten_things_wrong_here-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-A_barnstar_for_you!" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#A_barnstar_for_you!"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">10</span> <span>A barnstar for you!</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-A_barnstar_for_you!-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Senbaga_Thottam" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Senbaga_Thottam"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">11</span> <span>Senbaga Thottam</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">8 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Senbaga_Thottam-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Administrators'_newsletter_–_March_2024" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Administrators'_newsletter_–_March_2024"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">12</span> <span>Administrators' newsletter – March 2024</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Administrators'_newsletter_–_March_2024-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Requesting_urgent_assist_in_WP:ANI" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Requesting_urgent_assist_in_WP:ANI"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">13</span> <span>Requesting urgent assist in WP:ANI</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">8 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Requesting_urgent_assist_in_WP:ANI-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Nibble_(unit)" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Nibble_(unit)"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">14</span> <span>Nibble (unit)</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">7 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Nibble_(unit)-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-PA_by_IP_at_the_page_of_a_recently_blocked_editor" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#PA_by_IP_at_the_page_of_a_recently_blocked_editor"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">15</span> <span>PA by IP at the page of a recently blocked editor</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">3 comments</span> <ul id="toc-PA_by_IP_at_the_page_of_a_recently_blocked_editor-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-AIV_Board" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#AIV_Board"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">16</span> <span>AIV Board</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-AIV_Board-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Rewrite_the_article_or_with_similar_topic" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Rewrite_the_article_or_with_similar_topic"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">17</span> <span>Rewrite the article or with similar topic</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Rewrite_the_article_or_with_similar_topic-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-RFA2024_update:_no_longer_accepting_new_proposals_in_phase_I" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#RFA2024_update:_no_longer_accepting_new_proposals_in_phase_I"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">18</span> <span>RFA2024 update: no longer accepting new proposals in phase I</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-RFA2024_update:_no_longer_accepting_new_proposals_in_phase_I-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Deletion_review_for_Nibble_(unit)" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Deletion_review_for_Nibble_(unit)"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">19</span> <span>Deletion review for Nibble (unit)</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">2 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Deletion_review_for_Nibble_(unit)-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Hi!" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Hi!"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">20</span> <span>Hi!</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">6 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Hi!-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Hey" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Hey"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">21</span> <span>Hey</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">3 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Hey-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Happy_First_Edit_Day!" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Happy_First_Edit_Day!"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">22</span> <span>Happy First Edit Day!</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">4 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Happy_First_Edit_Day!-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Knowlagepanel" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Knowlagepanel"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">23</span> <span>Knowlagepanel</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">2 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Knowlagepanel-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Women_in_Red_April_2024" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Women_in_Red_April_2024"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">24</span> <span>Women in Red April 2024</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Women_in_Red_April_2024-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Happy_First_Edit_Day!_2" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Happy_First_Edit_Day!_2"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">25</span> <span>Happy First Edit Day!</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Happy_First_Edit_Day!_2-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-G6_deletions" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#G6_deletions"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">26</span> <span>G6 deletions</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">7 comments</span> <ul id="toc-G6_deletions-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Moodu_Pani_(soundtrack)" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Moodu_Pani_(soundtrack)"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">27</span> <span>Moodu Pani (soundtrack)</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">3 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Moodu_Pani_(soundtrack)-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Administrators'_newsletter_–_April_2024" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Administrators'_newsletter_–_April_2024"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">28</span> <span>Administrators' newsletter – April 2024</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Administrators'_newsletter_–_April_2024-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Deletion_for_Okwudili_Nwakobi" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Deletion_for_Okwudili_Nwakobi"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">29</span> <span>Deletion for Okwudili Nwakobi</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Deletion_for_Okwudili_Nwakobi-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Whack!" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Whack!"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">30</span> <span>Whack!</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">3 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Whack!-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Benmite's_collections_of_links" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Benmite's_collections_of_links"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">31</span> <span>Benmite's collections of links</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">2 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Benmite's_collections_of_links-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Deletion_request" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Deletion_request"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">32</span> <span>Deletion request</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Deletion_request-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-User_talk:SMSHandover" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#User_talk:SMSHandover"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">33</span> <span>User talk:SMSHandover</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">3 comments</span> <ul id="toc-User_talk:SMSHandover-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Indian_Motortcycle_Manufacturing_Company" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Indian_Motortcycle_Manufacturing_Company"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">34</span> <span>Indian Motortcycle Manufacturing Company</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">2 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Indian_Motortcycle_Manufacturing_Company-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Please_help_me_to_retrieve_Akshaya_Alshi_Page" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Please_help_me_to_retrieve_Akshaya_Alshi_Page"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">35</span> <span>Please help me to retrieve Akshaya Alshi Page</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">4 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Please_help_me_to_retrieve_Akshaya_Alshi_Page-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-The_Blue_Imperial_Rabbit_Page" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#The_Blue_Imperial_Rabbit_Page"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">36</span> <span>The Blue Imperial Rabbit Page</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">13 comments</span> <ul id="toc-The_Blue_Imperial_Rabbit_Page-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Deletion_review_for_Indian_Motortcycle_Manufacturing_Company" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Deletion_review_for_Indian_Motortcycle_Manufacturing_Company"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">37</span> <span>Deletion review for Indian Motortcycle Manufacturing Company</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Deletion_review_for_Indian_Motortcycle_Manufacturing_Company-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Women_in_Red_May_2024" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Women_in_Red_May_2024"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">38</span> <span>Women in Red May 2024</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Women_in_Red_May_2024-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Administrators'_newsletter_–_May_2024" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Administrators'_newsletter_–_May_2024"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">39</span> <span>Administrators' newsletter – May 2024</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Administrators'_newsletter_–_May_2024-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Reminder_to_vote_now_to_select_members_of_the_first_U4C" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Reminder_to_vote_now_to_select_members_of_the_first_U4C"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">40</span> <span>Reminder to vote now to select members of the first U4C</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Reminder_to_vote_now_to_select_members_of_the_first_U4C-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-RFA2024_update:_phase_I_concluded,_phase_II_begins" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#RFA2024_update:_phase_I_concluded,_phase_II_begins"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">41</span> <span>RFA2024 update: phase I concluded, phase II begins</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-RFA2024_update:_phase_I_concluded,_phase_II_begins-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Saira_Shah_Halim" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Saira_Shah_Halim"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">42</span> <span>Saira Shah Halim</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">2 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Saira_Shah_Halim-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Arbitration_Committee_case_request" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Arbitration_Committee_case_request"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">43</span> <span>Arbitration Committee case request</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Arbitration_Committee_case_request-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Arlene_Lien" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Arlene_Lien"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">44</span> <span>Arlene Lien</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">2 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Arlene_Lien-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Nomination_for_deletion_of_Template:1930s_in_music_(UK)" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Nomination_for_deletion_of_Template:1930s_in_music_(UK)"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">45</span> <span>Nomination for deletion of Template:1930s in music (UK)</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Nomination_for_deletion_of_Template:1930s_in_music_(UK)-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Sangerpedia" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Sangerpedia"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">46</span> <span>Sangerpedia</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">11 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Sangerpedia-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-A_Concern" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#A_Concern"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">47</span> <span>A Concern</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">3 comments</span> <ul id="toc-A_Concern-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Request_to_Recreate_Draft:RG_Qluck_Wise" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Request_to_Recreate_Draft:RG_Qluck_Wise"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">48</span> <span>Request to Recreate Draft:RG Qluck Wise</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Request_to_Recreate_Draft:RG_Qluck_Wise-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Arbitration_case_request_declined" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Arbitration_case_request_declined"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">49</span> <span>Arbitration case request declined</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Arbitration_case_request_declined-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Thank_you" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Thank_you"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">50</span> <span>Thank you</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Thank_you-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Women_in_Red_June_2024" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Women_in_Red_June_2024"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">51</span> <span>Women in Red June 2024</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Women_in_Red_June_2024-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Deletion_review_for_Sangerpedia" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Deletion_review_for_Sangerpedia"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">52</span> <span>Deletion review for Sangerpedia</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Deletion_review_for_Sangerpedia-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Category:Welsh-speaking_writers_has_been_nominated_for_merging" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a 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Read <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:DEL-REASON" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:DEL-REASON">this page</a> first... </td></tr></tbody></table> <p>If that doesn't help, read these FAQs. </p><p>1. Why did you delete my page when I hadn't finished writing it? </p> <dl><dd><b>Answer:</b> Don't create new articles unless you are sure they meet wikipedia's criteria, particularly <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Notability" title="Wikipedia:Notability">notability</a> and <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Verifiability" title="Wikipedia:Verifiability">verifiability</a>. If you want to practice, there is the <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Sandbox" title="Wikipedia:Sandbox">sandbox</a> facility and <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_creation" title="Wikipedia:Articles for creation">Wikipedia:Articles for creation</a> where you can get a second opinion from a more experienced contributor. And if you really can't help yourself, use {{underconstruction}} so other people will know you are still working on it.</dd></dl> <p>2. Why did you delete my page for advertising? I wasn't trying to advertise! </p> <dl><dd><b>Answer:</b> Read <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:NPOV" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:NPOV">Wikipedia:NPOV</a> for guidance on how to word an article so that it doesn't sound like an advertisement.</dd></dl> <p>3. Why did you delete my page for advertising? It was about a non-profit organisation! </p> <dl><dd><b>Answer:</b> Non-profit organisations advertise all the time - it's still promotion and the rule applies to them just as it does to commercial bodies. See no 2 above.</dd></dl> <p>4. Why did you delete my article without warning? </p> <dl><dd><b>Answer:</b> Because you are not entitled to a warning if you don't follow the guidelines. See no 1 above.</dd></dl> <p>5. Why didn't you do a google search and find references for my article and put them in for me instead of just deleting it? </p> <dl><dd><b>Answer:</b> Because I don't have time to do the boring bits for you. I have enough boring bits of my own to work on, thank you.</dd></dl> <p>6. You have a very interesting view of neutrality. The authors you give credence to have a definite point of view and you discount those that disagree. </p> <dl><dd><b>Answer:</b> There is of course no answer because this is not a question. It's a snide comment added by someone who doesn't understand the NPOV rule. Possibly a Ricardian revisionist.</dd></dl> <p>And please <b>SIGN YOUR POSTS</b>, otherwise I don't know who is asking me the question! </p><p><br/> Archives: <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Deb/Archive_1" title="User talk:Deb/Archive 1">1</a>, <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Deb/Archive_1" title="User talk:Deb/Archive 1">1</a>, <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Deb/Archive_2" title="User talk:Deb/Archive 2">2</a>, <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Deb/Archive_3" title="User talk:Deb/Archive 3">3</a>, <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Deb/Archive_4" title="User talk:Deb/Archive 4">4</a>, <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Deb/Archive_5" title="User talk:Deb/Archive 5">5</a>, <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Deb/Archive_6" title="User talk:Deb/Archive 6">6</a>, <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Deb/Archive_7" title="User talk:Deb/Archive 7">7</a>, <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Deb/Archive_8" title="User talk:Deb/Archive 8">8</a>, <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Deb/Archive_9" title="User talk:Deb/Archive 9">9</a>, <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Deb/Archive_10" title="User talk:Deb/Archive 10">10</a>, <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Deb/Archive_11" title="User talk:Deb/Archive 11">11</a>, <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Deb/Archive_12" title="User talk:Deb/Archive 12">12</a>, <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Deb/Archive_13" title="User talk:Deb/Archive 13">13</a>, <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Deb/Archive_14" title="User talk:Deb/Archive 14">14</a>, <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Deb/Archive_15" title="User talk:Deb/Archive 15">15</a>, <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Deb/Archive_16" title="User talk:Deb/Archive 16">16</a>, <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Deb/Archive_17" title="User talk:Deb/Archive 17">17</a>, <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Deb/Archive_18" title="User talk:Deb/Archive 18">18</a>, <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Deb/Archive_19" title="User talk:Deb/Archive 19">19</a>, <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Deb/Archive_20" title="User talk:Deb/Archive 20">20</a>, <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Deb/Archive_21" title="User talk:Deb/Archive 21">21</a>, <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Deb/Archive_22" title="User talk:Deb/Archive 22">22</a>, <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Deb/Archive_23" title="User talk:Deb/Archive 23">23</a>, <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Deb/Archive_24" title="User talk:Deb/Archive 24">24</a>, <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Deb/Archive_25" title="User talk:Deb/Archive 25">25</a>, <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Deb/Archive_26" title="User talk:Deb/Archive 26">26</a>, <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Deb/Archive_27" title="User talk:Deb/Archive 27">27</a>, <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Deb/Archive_28" title="User talk:Deb/Archive 28">28</a> </p> <meta property="mw:PageProp/toc"/> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Deletion_review_for_X-42_Pop-Up_Upper_Stage" data-mw-thread-id="h-Deletion_review_for_X-42_Pop-Up_Upper_Stage-20240216153900"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Deletion_review_for_X-42_Pop-Up_Upper_Stage-20240216153900"></span>Deletion review for <a href="/wiki/X-42_Pop-Up_Upper_Stage" class="mw-redirect" title="X-42 Pop-Up Upper Stage">X-42 Pop-Up Upper Stage</a><span data-mw-comment-end="h-Deletion_review_for_X-42_Pop-Up_Upper_Stage-20240216153900"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Deb&action=edit&section=1" title="Edit section: Deletion review for X-42 Pop-Up Upper Stage"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-2601:5CC:8300:A7F0:5D74:4C06:438E:102E-20240216153900-Deletion_review_for_X-42_Pop-Up_Upper_Stage"></span>An editor has asked for <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Deletion_review#X-42_Pop-Up_Upper_Stage" title="Wikipedia:Deletion review"><b>a deletion review</b></a> of <a href="/wiki/X-42_Pop-Up_Upper_Stage" class="mw-redirect" title="X-42 Pop-Up Upper Stage">X-42 Pop-Up Upper Stage</a>. 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Because you closed the deletion discussion for this page, speedily deleted it, or otherwise were interested in the page, you might want to participate in the deletion review. <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/2601:5CC:8300:A7F0:5D74:4C06:438E:102E" title="Special:Contributions/2601:5CC:8300:A7F0:5D74:4C06:438E:102E">2601:5CC:8300:A7F0:5D74:4C06:438E:102E</a> (<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:2601:5CC:8300:A7F0:5D74:4C06:438E:102E&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:2601:5CC:8300:A7F0:5D74:4C06:438E:102E (page does not exist)">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Deb#c-2601:5CC:8300:A7F0:5D74:4C06:438E:102E-20240216153900-Deletion_review_for_Okoo" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:39, 16 February 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-2601:5CC:8300:A7F0:5D74:4C06:438E:102E-20240216153900-Deletion_review_for_Okoo"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-2601:5CC:8300:A7F0:5D74:4C06:438E:102E-20240216153900-Deletion_review_for_Okoo"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Gjwillis-20240218154900-2601:5CC:8300:A7F0:5D74:4C06:438E:102E-20240216153900"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:Deb" title="User:Deb">Debyou</a>'ll have to excuse my amature attempt at creating a legit wiki page, I am not trying hide anything, it is not easy creating a page here on Wikipedia.</dd> <dd>I also didnt relaise I can add 'under construction' so people do not constantly delete my work.</dd> <dd>Ill try again, for the 3rd time, to create a legit page about a real martial artist, following Wikipedia's many rules.</dd> <dd>Greg <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Gjwillis&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Gjwillis (page does not exist)">Gjwillis</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Gjwillis" title="User talk:Gjwillis">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Deb#c-Gjwillis-20240218154900-2601:5CC:8300:A7F0:5D74:4C06:438E:102E-20240216153900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:49, 18 February 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Gjwillis-20240218154900-2601:5CC:8300:A7F0:5D74:4C06:438E:102E-20240216153900"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Gjwillis-20240218154900-2601:5CC:8300:A7F0:5D74:4C06:438E:102E-20240216153900"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Deb-20240218163600-Gjwillis-20240218154900"></span>This time you <i>must</i> be honest about your connection with the company. <a href="/wiki/User:Deb" title="User:Deb">Deb</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Deb#c-Deb-20240218163600-Gjwillis-20240218154900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:36, 18 February 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Deb-20240218163600-Gjwillis-20240218154900"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Deb-20240218163600-Gjwillis-20240218154900"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Deletion_review_for_Elizabeth_Shown_Mills" data-mw-thread-id="h-Deletion_review_for_Elizabeth_Shown_Mills-20240221175600"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Deletion_review_for_Elizabeth_Shown_Mills-20240221175600"></span>Deletion review for <a href="/wiki/Elizabeth_Shown_Mills" title="Elizabeth Shown Mills">Elizabeth Shown Mills</a><span data-mw-comment-end="h-Deletion_review_for_Elizabeth_Shown_Mills-20240221175600"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Deb&action=edit&section=3" title="Edit section: Deletion review for Elizabeth Shown Mills"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Extraordinary_Writ-20240221175600-Deletion_review_for_Elizabeth_Shown_Mills"></span>An editor has asked for <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Deletion_review#Elizabeth_Shown_Mills" title="Wikipedia:Deletion review"><b>a deletion review</b></a> of <a href="/wiki/Elizabeth_Shown_Mills" title="Elizabeth Shown Mills">Elizabeth Shown Mills</a>. Because you closed the deletion discussion for this page, speedily deleted it, or otherwise were interested in the page, you might want to participate in the deletion review. <a href="/wiki/User:Extraordinary_Writ" title="User:Extraordinary Writ">Extraordinary Writ</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Extraordinary_Writ" title="User talk:Extraordinary Writ">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Deb#c-Extraordinary_Writ-20240221175600-Deletion_review_for_Elizabeth_Shown_Mills" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:56, 21 February 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Extraordinary_Writ-20240221175600-Deletion_review_for_Elizabeth_Shown_Mills"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Extraordinary_Writ-20240221175600-Deletion_review_for_Elizabeth_Shown_Mills"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Elizabeth_Shown_Mills" data-mw-thread-id="h-Elizabeth_Shown_Mills-20240222011700"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Elizabeth_Shown_Mills-20240222011700"></span><a href="/wiki/Elizabeth_Shown_Mills" title="Elizabeth Shown Mills">Elizabeth Shown Mills</a><span data-mw-comment-end="h-Elizabeth_Shown_Mills-20240222011700"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Deb&action=edit&section=4" title="Edit section: Elizabeth Shown Mills"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Robert_McClenon-20240222011700-Elizabeth_Shown_Mills"></span>I am here because you deleted the article, but not to disagree with your deletion. I can see that reasonable editors can disagree as to the interpretation of <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:G11" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:G11">G11</a>. I think that if more than half of the article needs to be deleted as <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:PROMO" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:PROMO">promotional</a> filler, it is exclusively promotional. I see that other editors disagree. <a href="/wiki/User:Robert_McClenon" title="User:Robert McClenon">Robert McClenon</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Robert_McClenon" title="User talk:Robert McClenon">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Deb#c-Robert_McClenon-20240222011700-Elizabeth_Shown_Mills" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">01:17, 22 February 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Robert_McClenon-20240222011700-Elizabeth_Shown_Mills"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Robert_McClenon-20240222011700-Elizabeth_Shown_Mills"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Deb-20240222083900-Robert_McClenon-20240222011700"></span>Thanks. I'm not too bothered either way. I go by the maxim that, if you do a lot of work, you make mistakes. Only if you do nothing constructive can you be perfect at what you do. <a href="/wiki/User:Deb" title="User:Deb">Deb</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Deb#c-Deb-20240222083900-Robert_McClenon-20240222011700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">08:39, 22 February 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Deb-20240222083900-Robert_McClenon-20240222011700"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Deb-20240222083900-Robert_McClenon-20240222011700"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Robert_McClenon-20240222163800-Deb-20240222083900"></span>I don't think that you made a mistake anyway. You were in a minority. There were at least three editors who thought it was <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:G11" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:G11">G11</a>, the nominator, you, and me. Being in a minority does not mean being wrong, and it does not mean that the majority was wrong. It just means that there two opinions, and one of them was in the majority. <a href="/wiki/User:Robert_McClenon" title="User:Robert McClenon">Robert McClenon</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Robert_McClenon" title="User talk:Robert McClenon">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Deb#c-Robert_McClenon-20240222163800-Deb-20240222083900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:38, 22 February 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Robert_McClenon-20240222163800-Deb-20240222083900"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Robert_McClenon-20240222163800-Deb-20240222083900"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Speedy_Deletion_of_Rint_Sybesma" data-mw-thread-id="h-Speedy_Deletion_of_Rint_Sybesma-20240223150100"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Speedy_Deletion_of_Rint_Sybesma-20240223150100"></span>Speedy Deletion of Rint Sybesma<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Speedy_Deletion_of_Rint_Sybesma-20240223150100"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Deb&action=edit&section=5" title="Edit section: Speedy Deletion of Rint Sybesma"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Ffbond-20240223150100-Speedy_Deletion_of_Rint_Sybesma"></span>Hi, </p><p>This page is not unambiguously promotional, because it is based on articles for similar academics. The information listed is all about their professional activities, showing in particular that they have had substantial impact outside academia in their academic capacity. They are also the lead editor of an influential encyclopedia in their field. </p><p>I am an academic in a related field, but not close to the subject, I was advising my colleague Dr Sio on how to create the page. </p><p>Please restore it. <a href="/wiki/User:Ffbond" title="User:Ffbond">Francis Bond</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Ffbond" title="User talk:Ffbond">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Deb#c-Ffbond-20240223150100-Speedy_Deletion_of_Rint_Sybesma" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:01, 23 February 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Ffbond-20240223150100-Speedy_Deletion_of_Rint_Sybesma"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Ffbond-20240223150100-Speedy_Deletion_of_Rint_Sybesma"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Deb-20240223151700-Ffbond-20240223150100"></span>Now that you have outed the author of the article, you've also confirmed that she has a personal connection with the subject. You should have informed her that she must declare a <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:COI" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:COI">conflict of interest</a>. If a decision is made to restore the article, it will be tagged as a COI. <a href="/wiki/User:Deb" title="User:Deb">Deb</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Deb#c-Deb-20240223151700-Ffbond-20240223150100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:17, 23 February 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Deb-20240223151700-Ffbond-20240223150100"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Deb-20240223151700-Ffbond-20240223150100"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Olomoonlady-20240223160100-Deb-20240223151700"></span>Hi, I am sorry it is my first wikipedia article, I was not aware of the COI, which I would gladly declare. The last time I collaborated academically with the subject was 2008. We are not in the same university. I wanted to add a page for him because I noticed that he didn't have a page, and I think he is well-respected in the field. Where should I declare my COI? <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Olomoonlady&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Olomoonlady (page does not exist)">Olomoonlady</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Olomoonlady" title="User talk:Olomoonlady">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Deb#c-Olomoonlady-20240223160100-Deb-20240223151700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:01, 23 February 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Olomoonlady-20240223160100-Deb-20240223151700"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Olomoonlady-20240223160100-Deb-20240223151700"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Deb-20240223161800-Olomoonlady-20240223160100"></span>You can do this on your user page and also in the Talk page for the article. It is highly advisable for new contributors to create articles in draft space and submit them for review before attempting to put them into main space. I will remove some of the promotional content from your article and put it into <a href="/w/index.php?title=Draft:Rint_Sybesma&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Draft:Rint Sybesma (page does not exist)">draft</a>, but you will need to submit for review so that you can get feedback from other users. <a href="/wiki/User:Deb" title="User:Deb">Deb</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Deb#c-Deb-20240223161800-Olomoonlady-20240223160100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:18, 23 February 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Deb-20240223161800-Olomoonlady-20240223160100"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Deb-20240223161800-Olomoonlady-20240223160100"></span></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Deb-20240223161900-Olomoonlady-20240223160100"></span>Further guidance is available at <a href="/wiki/Help:Your_first_article" title="Help:Your first article">Help:Your first article</a>. <a href="/wiki/User:Deb" title="User:Deb">Deb</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Deb#c-Deb-20240223161900-Olomoonlady-20240223160100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:19, 23 February 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Deb-20240223161900-Olomoonlady-20240223160100"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Deb-20240223161900-Olomoonlady-20240223160100"></span></dd></dl></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Bangladesh2.0-20241122055200-Deb-20240223151700"></span>Hi Deb</dd> <dd>All the sources I've collected from Google and it was published in national newspaper. 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id="c-Bangladesh2.0-20241122061500-Ffbond-20240223150100"></span>Hi Deb</dd> <dd>All the sources I've collected from Google and it was published in national newspaper. Already I've gave references of newspaper. You can also search on google. 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<a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Bangladesh2.0&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Bangladesh2.0 (page does not exist)">Bangladesh2.0</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Bangladesh2.0" title="User talk:Bangladesh2.0">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Deb#c-Bangladesh2.0-20241122061500-Ffbond-20240223150100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">06:15, 22 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Bangladesh2.0-20241122061500-Ffbond-20240223150100"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Bangladesh2.0-20241122061500-Ffbond-20240223150100"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Deb-20241122090300-Bangladesh2.0-20241122061500"></span>References aren't the issue here. 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I'm hesitant to open an SPI given that the title is in French rather than English. <a href="/wiki/User:Ph%C3%B6nedinger%27s_jellyfish_II" class="mw-redirect" title="User:Phönedinger's jellyfish II">Phönedinger's jellyfish II</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Ph%C3%B6nedinger%27s_jellyfish_II" class="mw-redirect" title="User talk:Phönedinger's jellyfish II">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Deb#c-Phönedinger's_jellyfish_II-20240226192500-About_"Dans_la_vie,_on_fait_caca_musique_!"" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:25, 26 February 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Phönedinger's_jellyfish_II-20240226192500-About_"Dans_la_vie,_on_fait_caca_musique_!""><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Phönedinger's_jellyfish_II-20240226192500-About_"Dans_la_vie,_on_fait_caca_musique_!""></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Deb-20240227074500-Phönedinger's_jellyfish_II-20240226192500"></span>I wasn't familiar with that user but it does sound as though it could be. Do you feel I should block that user? <a href="/wiki/User:Deb" title="User:Deb">Deb</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Deb#c-Deb-20240227074500-Phönedinger's_jellyfish_II-20240226192500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">07:45, 27 February 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Deb-20240227074500-Phönedinger's_jellyfish_II-20240226192500"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Deb-20240227074500-Phönedinger's_jellyfish_II-20240226192500"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Phönedinger's_jellyfish_II-20240227165700-Deb-20240227074500"></span>I'm not really sure. The draft text just seemed to be a poop joke, albeit a nonsensical one, and most of their enwiki nonsense has been in English and not are French. The account (I haven't checked since the draft got deleted) does match up with the username trends and behavior (create draft then vanish). I'll probably just file an SPI since it's a strong "maybe" at best. <a href="/wiki/User:Ph%C3%B6nedinger%27s_jellyfish_II" class="mw-redirect" title="User:Phönedinger's jellyfish II">Phönedinger's jellyfish II</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Ph%C3%B6nedinger%27s_jellyfish_II" class="mw-redirect" title="User talk:Phönedinger's jellyfish II">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Deb#c-Phönedinger's_jellyfish_II-20240227165700-Deb-20240227074500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:57, 27 February 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Phönedinger's_jellyfish_II-20240227165700-Deb-20240227074500"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Phönedinger's_jellyfish_II-20240227165700-Deb-20240227074500"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Deleting_page_"Social_Work_In_India"" data-mw-thread-id="h-Deleting_page_"Social_Work_In_India"-20240227171800"><span id="Deleting_page_.22Social_Work_In_India.22"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Deleting_page_"Social_Work_In_India"-20240227171800"></span>Deleting page "Social Work In India"<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Deleting_page_"Social_Work_In_India"-20240227171800"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Deb&action=edit&section=8" title="Edit section: Deleting page "Social Work In India""><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-NoworNever007-20240227171800-Deleting_page_"Social_Work_In_India""></span>The article I had written was not promotional and only included topics such as History, Field of work and Professional Bodies for Social Workers in India. I had even submitted appropriate links and sources. </p><p>Reactivate the page or I will be forced to appeal it. <a href="/wiki/User:NoworNever007" title="User:NoworNever007">NoworNever007</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:NoworNever007" title="User talk:NoworNever007">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Deb#c-NoworNever007-20240227171800-Deleting_page_"Social_Work_In_India"" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:18, 27 February 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-NoworNever007-20240227171800-Deleting_page_"Social_Work_In_India""><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-NoworNever007-20240227171800-Deleting_page_"Social_Work_In_India""></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Deb-20240227180600-NoworNever007-20240227171800"></span>Carry on. I gave you advice which you chose to ignore. <a href="/wiki/User:Deb" title="User:Deb">Deb</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Deb#c-Deb-20240227180600-NoworNever007-20240227171800" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:06, 27 February 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Deb-20240227180600-NoworNever007-20240227171800"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Deb-20240227180600-NoworNever007-20240227171800"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="About_Draft:Adidas_Top_Ten_-_thank_you_for_thanking_me,_but_I_do_note_this_muddle-headed_wombat_may_possibly_have_gotten_things_wrong_here" data-mw-thread-id="h-About_Draft:Adidas_Top_Ten_-_thank_you_for_thanking_me,_but_I_do_note_this_muddl-20240228095200"><span id="About_Draft:Adidas_Top_Ten_-_thank_you_for_thanking_me.2C_but_I_do_note_this_muddle-headed_wombat_may_possibly_have_gotten_things_wrong_here"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-About_Draft:Adidas_Top_Ten_-_thank_you_for_thanking_me,_but_I_do_note_this_muddl-20240228095200"></span>About <a href="/wiki/Draft:Adidas_Top_Ten" class="mw-redirect" title="Draft:Adidas Top Ten">Draft:Adidas Top Ten</a> - thank you for thanking me, but I do note this muddle-headed wombat may possibly have gotten things wrong here<span data-mw-comment-end="h-About_Draft:Adidas_Top_Ten_-_thank_you_for_thanking_me,_but_I_do_note_this_muddl-20240228095200"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Deb&action=edit&section=9" title="Edit section: About Draft:Adidas Top Ten - thank you for thanking me, but I do note this muddle-headed wombat may possibly have gotten things wrong here"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Shirt58-20240228095200-About_Draft:Adidas_Top_Ten_-_thank_you_for_thanking_me,_but_I_do_note_this_muddl"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:DrowssapSMM" title="User:DrowssapSMM">DrowssapSMM</a>, <a href="/wiki/User:Voorts" title="User:Voorts">Voorts</a>, <a href="/wiki/User:LeDroider" title="User:LeDroider">LeDroider</a>, <a href="/wiki/User:Bruxton" title="User:Bruxton">Bruxton</a>, and <a href="/wiki/User:Deb" title="User:Deb">Deb</a>:</span> I declined the WP:G6 speedy deletion of that draft, and somehow <a href="/wiki/Adidas_Top_Ten" title="Adidas Top Ten">Adidas Top Ten</a> still redirects to <a href="/wiki/Adidas" title="Adidas">Adidas</a>. I *think* I was right to decline the speedy as the draft had not been assessed by an AFC reviewer as ready for articlespace, but as something of a muddle-headed wombat when it comes to these technical sort of things, there is a good chance I got it wrong. Your thoughts about this? <a href="/wiki/User:Shirt58" title="User:Shirt58">Shirt58</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Shirt58" title="User talk:Shirt58">talk</a>) 🦘 <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Deb#c-Shirt58-20240228095200-About_Draft:Adidas_Top_Ten_-_thank_you_for_thanking_me,_but_I_do_note_this_muddl" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:52, 28 February 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Shirt58-20240228095200-About_Draft:Adidas_Top_Ten_-_thank_you_for_thanking_me,_but_I_do_note_this_muddl"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Shirt58-20240228095200-About_Draft:Adidas_Top_Ten_-_thank_you_for_thanking_me,_but_I_do_note_this_muddl"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Deb-20240228113000-Shirt58-20240228095200"></span>I agree with what you did. There seems to be a lot of this stuff going on at the moment - people nominating unreviewed drafts for speedy deletion in the hope that we won't notice. However, the risk with a redirect is that they will simply add their text into the redirect and no one will notice. So I think I would have protected the page if there is any reason to suppose this might happen. <a href="/wiki/User:Deb" title="User:Deb">Deb</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Deb#c-Deb-20240228113000-Shirt58-20240228095200" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:30, 28 February 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Deb-20240228113000-Shirt58-20240228095200"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Deb-20240228113000-Shirt58-20240228095200"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Voorts-20240228143700-Deb-20240228113000"></span>I don't think there's a risk in this case. It's been almost two months since I draftified and nothing has happened. Perhaps Drowssap forgot to put the article under review before requesting G6. In any event, I don't think the draft is ready for mainspace. <a href="/wiki/User:Voorts" title="User:Voorts">voorts</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Voorts" title="User talk:Voorts">talk</a>/<a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Voorts" title="Special:Contributions/Voorts">contributions</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Deb#c-Voorts-20240228143700-Deb-20240228113000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:37, 28 February 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Voorts-20240228143700-Deb-20240228113000"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Voorts-20240228143700-Deb-20240228113000"></span></dd></dl></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Voorts-20240228143400-Shirt58-20240228095200"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:Shirt58" title="User:Shirt58">Shirt58</a> I think declining the G6 is correct. Adidas Top Ten redirects to Adidas because I draftified that article and then removed the R2 tag and redirected to Adidas instead. <a href="/wiki/User:Voorts" title="User:Voorts">voorts</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Voorts" title="User talk:Voorts">talk</a>/<a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Voorts" title="Special:Contributions/Voorts">contributions</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Deb#c-Voorts-20240228143400-Shirt58-20240228095200" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:34, 28 February 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Voorts-20240228143400-Shirt58-20240228095200"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Voorts-20240228143400-Shirt58-20240228095200"></span></dd></dl> <p><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-LeDroider-20240302033300-About_Draft:Adidas_Top_Ten_-_thank_you_for_thanking_me,_but_I_do_note_this_muddl"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:Shirt58" title="User:Shirt58">Shirt58</a>, <a href="/wiki/User:DrowssapSMM" title="User:DrowssapSMM">DrowssapSMM</a>, <a href="/wiki/User:Voorts" title="User:Voorts">Voorts</a>, <a href="/wiki/User:LeDroider" title="User:LeDroider">LeDroider</a>, <a href="/wiki/User:Bruxton" title="User:Bruxton">Bruxton</a>, and <a href="/wiki/User:Deb" title="User:Deb">Deb</a>:</span> Does this mean the page is good to revert back to the original? Can I create the page then for Adidas Top Ten? <a href="/wiki/User:LeDroider" title="User:LeDroider">LeDroider</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:LeDroider" title="User talk:LeDroider">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Deb#c-LeDroider-20240302033300-About_Draft:Adidas_Top_Ten_-_thank_you_for_thanking_me,_but_I_do_note_this_muddl" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">03:33, 2 March 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-LeDroider-20240302033300-About_Draft:Adidas_Top_Ten_-_thank_you_for_thanking_me,_but_I_do_note_this_muddl"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-LeDroider-20240302033300-About_Draft:Adidas_Top_Ten_-_thank_you_for_thanking_me,_but_I_do_note_this_muddl"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Deb-20240302103100-LeDroider-20240302033300"></span>If you feel you must do so, create the page in draft, not in mainspace, and submit for review. <a href="/wiki/User:Deb" title="User:Deb">Deb</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Deb#c-Deb-20240302103100-LeDroider-20240302033300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:31, 2 March 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Deb-20240302103100-LeDroider-20240302033300"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Deb-20240302103100-LeDroider-20240302033300"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="A_barnstar_for_you!" data-mw-thread-id="h-A_barnstar_for_you!-20240229081600"><span id="A_barnstar_for_you.21"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-A_barnstar_for_you!-20240229081600"></span>A barnstar for you!<span data-mw-comment-end="h-A_barnstar_for_you!-20240229081600"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Deb&action=edit&section=10" title="Edit section: A barnstar for you!"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <table style="background-color: #fdffe7; border: 1px solid #fceb92;"> <tbody><tr> <td rowspan="2" style="vertical-align: middle; padding: 5px;"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Tehonk-20240229081600-A_barnstar_for_you!"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:No_Spam_Barnstar_Hires.png" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/88/No_Spam_Barnstar_Hires.png/100px-No_Spam_Barnstar_Hires.png" decoding="async" width="100" height="95" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/88/No_Spam_Barnstar_Hires.png/150px-No_Spam_Barnstar_Hires.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/88/No_Spam_Barnstar_Hires.png/200px-No_Spam_Barnstar_Hires.png 2x" data-file-width="2000" data-file-height="1900"/></a></span> </td> <td style="font-size: x-large; padding: 3px 3px 0 3px; height: 1.5em;"><b>The No Spam Barnstar</b> </td></tr> <tr> <td style="vertical-align: middle; padding: 3px;">Thanks for great work. <a href="/wiki/User:Tehonk" title="User:Tehonk">Tehonk</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Tehonk" title="User talk:Tehonk">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Deb#c-Tehonk-20240229081600-A_barnstar_for_you!" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">08:16, 29 February 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Tehonk-20240229081600-A_barnstar_for_you!"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Tehonk-20240229081600-A_barnstar_for_you!"></span> </td></tr></tbody></table> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Senbaga_Thottam" data-mw-thread-id="h-Senbaga_Thottam-20240229082400"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Senbaga_Thottam-20240229082400"></span><a href="/wiki/Senbaga_Thottam" title="Senbaga Thottam">Senbaga Thottam</a><span data-mw-comment-end="h-Senbaga_Thottam-20240229082400"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Deb&action=edit&section=11" title="Edit section: Senbaga Thottam"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Kailash29792-20240229082400-Senbaga_Thottam"></span>That article wasn't meant to look like an advertisement in any manner. I don't know why you called it such. Now how do I get it restored to further improve? An undeletion request failed. <span style="white-space:nowrap;font-family: Papyrus"><a href="/wiki/User:Kailash29792" title="User:Kailash29792"><b style="color: black;">Kailash29792</b></a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Kailash29792" title="User talk:Kailash29792"><span style="color: black;">(talk)</span></a> </span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Deb#c-Kailash29792-20240229082400-Senbaga_Thottam" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">08:24, 29 February 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Kailash29792-20240229082400-Senbaga_Thottam"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Kailash29792-20240229082400-Senbaga_Thottam"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Deb-20240229084500-Kailash29792-20240229082400"></span>Why did you move it from draft - twice - without waiting for it to pass review? <a href="/wiki/User:Deb" title="User:Deb">Deb</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Deb#c-Deb-20240229084500-Kailash29792-20240229082400" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">08:45, 29 February 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Deb-20240229084500-Kailash29792-20240229082400"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Deb-20240229084500-Kailash29792-20240229082400"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Kailash29792-20240229085100-Deb-20240229084500"></span>Do we have an agreement? We can restore this as a draft and then wait for it to pass? I just wish you had prodded it instead of unilaterally deleting it. That way I could have at least been notified and started improving the article to remove "mistakes". <span style="white-space:nowrap;font-family: Papyrus"><a href="/wiki/User:Kailash29792" title="User:Kailash29792"><b style="color: black;">Kailash29792</b></a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Kailash29792" title="User talk:Kailash29792"><span style="color: black;">(talk)</span></a> </span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Deb#c-Kailash29792-20240229085100-Deb-20240229084500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">08:51, 29 February 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Kailash29792-20240229085100-Deb-20240229084500"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Kailash29792-20240229085100-Deb-20240229084500"></span></dd></dl></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Jay-20240229093500-Kailash29792-20240229082400"></span>Deb, when in doubt, you may tag it for CSD and let another admin take a call. And it's a good practice to do so even when not in doubt, unless it is a most obvious case. That way we have at least 2 editors having had a look at the page before deletion. I see we <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Deb/Archive_27#Manush_Nandan" title="User talk:Deb/Archive 27">discussed about it before</a>, and I did let it go at the time as I didn't argue as to why it was not a "most obvious case". I would see the current Senbaga Thottam deletion as a poor unilateral delete. <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:DRAFTOBJECT" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:DRAFTOBJECT">WP:DRAFTOBJECT</a> is allowed, and if you have a concern as an editor, you could AfD the article. If you find valid reasons for speedy, tag it. If you find concerns as an admin, and no one has tagged a page for speedy, you will have to have good reasons to justify a unilateral delete.<span style="font-family:Segoe Script"><a href="/wiki/User:Jay" title="User:Jay"> Jay</a></span><span style="font-size:115%"><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Jay" title="User talk:Jay"> 💬</a></span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Deb#c-Jay-20240229093500-Kailash29792-20240229082400" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:35, 29 February 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Jay-20240229093500-Kailash29792-20240229082400"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Jay-20240229093500-Kailash29792-20240229082400"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Kailash29792-20240229095600-Jay-20240229093500"></span>Thank you Jay. And I find Deb's arguments - that the article looked like an "advertisement" - unconvincing. Either way I have submitted it for AfC again and hope it gets accepted. <span style="white-space:nowrap;font-family: Papyrus"><a href="/wiki/User:Kailash29792" title="User:Kailash29792"><b style="color: black;">Kailash29792</b></a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Kailash29792" title="User talk:Kailash29792"><span style="color: black;">(talk)</span></a> </span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Deb#c-Kailash29792-20240229095600-Jay-20240229093500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:56, 29 February 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Kailash29792-20240229095600-Jay-20240229093500"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Kailash29792-20240229095600-Jay-20240229093500"></span></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Deb-20240229144500-Jay-20240229093500"></span>That's kind of you, but no two cases are alike, as those administrators who try to keep spam under control will be aware. I am pretty confused as to why the creator kept moving this article around, into and out of draft, under different names. It achieves nothing to argue the toss after an amicable compromise has been reached. <a href="/wiki/User:Deb" title="User:Deb">Deb</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Deb#c-Deb-20240229144500-Jay-20240229093500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:45, 29 February 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Deb-20240229144500-Jay-20240229093500"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Deb-20240229144500-Jay-20240229093500"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Kailash29792-20240229154700-Deb-20240229144500"></span>I hope this comes to an amicable conclusion after I share the complete fact: I started the article under the title Shenbaga, but moved it to draft as it was still sketchy. After completing work, I moved it back to the mainspace with the spelling Senbaga as it is correct. That's where I guess things fell apart, and Deb, I apologise for my indecision. I hope we can see the article back in the mainspace as I've done my best to make it look non-promotional. <span style="white-space:nowrap;font-family: Papyrus"><a href="/wiki/User:Kailash29792" title="User:Kailash29792"><b style="color: black;">Kailash29792</b></a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Kailash29792" title="User talk:Kailash29792"><span style="color: black;">(talk)</span></a> </span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Deb#c-Kailash29792-20240229154700-Deb-20240229144500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:47, 29 February 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Kailash29792-20240229154700-Deb-20240229144500"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span 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Could you help take a look on <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:ANI#Repeated_unexplained_addition_of_Arabic-like_scripts_by_IP_address_180.75.238.55_in_multiple_Penang-related_articles" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:ANI">this issue</a>? Said IP address is acting in bad faith, refusing to cooperate or engage in discussions in their talk page, and even being aggresive and accused me of being a "racist" in bad faith on ANI. This is very unbecoming of a responsible editor. Appreciate your help on this. Thanks. <a href="/wiki/User:HundenvonPenang" title="User:HundenvonPenang">hundenvonPG</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:HundenvonPenang" title="User talk:HundenvonPenang">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Deb#c-HundenvonPenang-20240304125600-Requesting_urgent_assist_in_WP:ANI" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:56, 4 March 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-HundenvonPenang-20240304125600-Requesting_urgent_assist_in_WP:ANI"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-HundenvonPenang-20240304125600-Requesting_urgent_assist_in_WP:ANI"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-HundenvonPenang-20240304130600-HundenvonPenang-20240304125600"></span>Thanks Deb, I saw your warning, but that IP address is persisting with their behaviour (adding scripts wholesale). I think action has to be taken. <a href="/wiki/User:HundenvonPenang" title="User:HundenvonPenang">hundenvonPG</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:HundenvonPenang" title="User talk:HundenvonPenang">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Deb#c-HundenvonPenang-20240304130600-HundenvonPenang-20240304125600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:06, 4 March 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-HundenvonPenang-20240304130600-HundenvonPenang-20240304125600"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-HundenvonPenang-20240304130600-HundenvonPenang-20240304125600"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Deb-20240304130900-HundenvonPenang-20240304130600"></span>I'll check back later. <a href="/wiki/User:Deb" title="User:Deb">Deb</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Deb#c-Deb-20240304130900-HundenvonPenang-20240304130600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:09, 4 March 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Deb-20240304130900-HundenvonPenang-20240304130600"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Deb-20240304130900-HundenvonPenang-20240304130600"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-180.75.238.55-20240304131200-Deb-20240304130900"></span>He is making racist statement by calling Jawi "unexplained arabic-like scripts" while he knows as a Malaysian that the script is a Jawi script and is used to write the Malay language alongside Latin. <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/180.75.238.55" title="Special:Contributions/180.75.238.55">180.75.238.55</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:180.75.238.55" title="User talk:180.75.238.55">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Deb#c-180.75.238.55-20240304131200-Deb-20240304130900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:12, 4 March 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-180.75.238.55-20240304131200-Deb-20240304130900"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-180.75.238.55-20240304131200-Deb-20240304130900"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Deb-20240304131500-180.75.238.55-20240304131200"></span>That's not a racist statement - don't falsely accuse other contributors. <a href="/wiki/User:Deb" title="User:Deb">Deb</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Deb#c-Deb-20240304131500-180.75.238.55-20240304131200" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:15, 4 March 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Deb-20240304131500-180.75.238.55-20240304131200"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Deb-20240304131500-180.75.238.55-20240304131200"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-180.75.238.55-20240304131500-Deb-20240304131500"></span>That is a Racist statement, he continuously make complains against the Jawi script. That is a racism because he knows Jawi is the traditional script of Malay language. <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/180.75.238.55" title="Special:Contributions/180.75.238.55">180.75.238.55</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:180.75.238.55" title="User talk:180.75.238.55">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Deb#c-180.75.238.55-20240304131500-Deb-20240304131500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:15, 4 March 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-180.75.238.55-20240304131500-Deb-20240304131500"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-180.75.238.55-20240304131500-Deb-20240304131500"></span></dd></dl></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-180.75.238.55-20240304131600-180.75.238.55-20240304131200"></span>I challenge him to give me proof that Chinese and Tamil are official languages of Malaysia because he puts Chinese and Tamil on every placenames in Penang even though those towns have Malay names. <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/180.75.238.55" title="Special:Contributions/180.75.238.55">180.75.238.55</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:180.75.238.55" title="User talk:180.75.238.55">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Deb#c-180.75.238.55-20240304131600-180.75.238.55-20240304131200" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:16, 4 March 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-180.75.238.55-20240304131600-180.75.238.55-20240304131200"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-180.75.238.55-20240304131600-180.75.238.55-20240304131200"></span></dd></dl></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-HundenvonPenang-20240304135200-Deb-20240304130900"></span>Thanks Deb for your intervention. I had always believed that WP should be collaborative & tried to raise that issue accordingly with said address. Just unfortunate that they didn't see it that way. I will keep you posted. <a href="/wiki/User:HundenvonPenang" title="User:HundenvonPenang">hundenvonPG</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:HundenvonPenang" title="User talk:HundenvonPenang">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Deb#c-HundenvonPenang-20240304135200-Deb-20240304130900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:52, 4 March 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-HundenvonPenang-20240304135200-Deb-20240304130900"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-HundenvonPenang-20240304135200-Deb-20240304130900"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Nibble_(unit)" data-mw-thread-id="h-Nibble_(unit)-20240305202900"><span id="Nibble_.28unit.29"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Nibble_(unit)-20240305202900"></span><a href="/wiki/Nibble_(unit)" class="mw-redirect" title="Nibble (unit)">Nibble (unit)</a><span data-mw-comment-end="h-Nibble_(unit)-20240305202900"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Deb&action=edit&section=14" title="Edit section: Nibble (unit)"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-2601:5CC:8300:A7F0:1DA2:B9FB:6228:587F-20240305202900-Nibble_(unit)"></span>The only way that <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:G14" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:G14">WP:G14</a> could apply to that page is if it disambiguated zero extant Wikipedia pages, however as it began as a redirect to <a href="/wiki/Nibble" title="Nibble">Nibble</a>, and as a plausible <a href="/wiki/Template:R_from_unnecessary_disambiguation" title="Template:R from unnecessary disambiguation">Template:R from unnecessary disambiguation</a>, that is clearly not the case. As such please undelete the page, thank you. <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/2601:5CC:8300:A7F0:1DA2:B9FB:6228:587F" title="Special:Contributions/2601:5CC:8300:A7F0:1DA2:B9FB:6228:587F">2601:5CC:8300:A7F0:1DA2:B9FB:6228:587F</a> (<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:2601:5CC:8300:A7F0:1DA2:B9FB:6228:587F&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:2601:5CC:8300:A7F0:1DA2:B9FB:6228:587F (page does not exist)">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Deb#c-2601:5CC:8300:A7F0:1DA2:B9FB:6228:587F-20240305202900-Nibble_(unit)" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:29, 5 March 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-2601:5CC:8300:A7F0:1DA2:B9FB:6228:587F-20240305202900-Nibble_(unit)"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-2601:5CC:8300:A7F0:1DA2:B9FB:6228:587F-20240305202900-Nibble_(unit)"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Deb-20240306091800-2601:5CC:8300:A7F0:1DA2:B9FB:6228:587F-20240305202900"></span>Sorry, who are you and why are you asking questions about a page you have had nothing to do with? If you are a contributor who has access to deleted versions, please remember to sign in. Also, try and sort out your grammar. <a href="/wiki/User:Deb" title="User:Deb">Deb</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Deb#c-Deb-20240306091800-2601:5CC:8300:A7F0:1DA2:B9FB:6228:587F-20240305202900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:18, 6 March 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Deb-20240306091800-2601:5CC:8300:A7F0:1DA2:B9FB:6228:587F-20240305202900"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Deb-20240306091800-2601:5CC:8300:A7F0:1DA2:B9FB:6228:587F-20240305202900"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-2601:5CC:8300:A7F0:154D:8DE5:E43F:9FAC-20240306171300-Deb-20240306091800"></span>It should have been obvious to anyone from the log that it was not <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:G14" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:G14">WP:G14</a> eligible, no revisions needed. If I had needed to review revisions, I could have used a Wikipedia mirror or contacted an admin through e-mail or IRC. With quick informal messages the important part is that meaning is conveyed, but if poor grammar troubles you I can attempt to exercise more care in the future.</dd> <dd>Finally, as <a href="/wiki/Template:R_from_unnecessary_disambiguation" title="Template:R from unnecessary disambiguation">Template:R from unnecessary disambiguations</a> are sometimes retained at <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:RFD" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:RFD">WP:RFD</a>, the page is not eligible for <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:R3" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:R3">WP:R3</a>. Therefore please undelete the page again, thank you. <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/2601:5CC:8300:A7F0:154D:8DE5:E43F:9FAC" title="Special:Contributions/2601:5CC:8300:A7F0:154D:8DE5:E43F:9FAC">2601:5CC:8300:A7F0:154D:8DE5:E43F:9FAC</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:2601:5CC:8300:A7F0:154D:8DE5:E43F:9FAC" title="User talk:2601:5CC:8300:A7F0:154D:8DE5:E43F:9FAC">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Deb#c-2601:5CC:8300:A7F0:154D:8DE5:E43F:9FAC-20240306171300-Deb-20240306091800" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:13, 6 March 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-2601:5CC:8300:A7F0:154D:8DE5:E43F:9FAC-20240306171300-Deb-20240306091800"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-2601:5CC:8300:A7F0:154D:8DE5:E43F:9FAC-20240306171300-Deb-20240306091800"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Deb-20240306183100-2601:5CC:8300:A7F0:154D:8DE5:E43F:9FAC-20240306171300"></span>Are you the same person as 2601:5CC:8300:A7F0:1DA2:B9FB:6228:587F? <a href="/wiki/User:Deb" title="User:Deb">Deb</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Deb#c-Deb-20240306183100-2601:5CC:8300:A7F0:154D:8DE5:E43F:9FAC-20240306171300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:31, 6 March 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Deb-20240306183100-2601:5CC:8300:A7F0:154D:8DE5:E43F:9FAC-20240306171300"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Deb-20240306183100-2601:5CC:8300:A7F0:154D:8DE5:E43F:9FAC-20240306171300"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-2601:5CC:8300:A7F0:154D:8DE5:E43F:9FAC-20240306185500-Deb-20240306183100"></span>Yes I'm on a dynamic IP range. Usually when I comment in a discussion that has not been a problem even when it came to altering my comments on RFD. When we previously discussed pages, for example <a href="/wiki/Okoo" class="mw-redirect" title="Okoo">Okoo</a>, this has not been a problem either. I suppose there are other people on this range, but the odds of overlap in topical interest are small enough that I don't see it as a barrier to discussion. <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/2601:5CC:8300:A7F0:154D:8DE5:E43F:9FAC" title="Special:Contributions/2601:5CC:8300:A7F0:154D:8DE5:E43F:9FAC">2601:5CC:8300:A7F0:154D:8DE5:E43F:9FAC</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:2601:5CC:8300:A7F0:154D:8DE5:E43F:9FAC" title="User talk:2601:5CC:8300:A7F0:154D:8DE5:E43F:9FAC">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Deb#c-2601:5CC:8300:A7F0:154D:8DE5:E43F:9FAC-20240306185500-Deb-20240306183100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:55, 6 March 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-2601:5CC:8300:A7F0:154D:8DE5:E43F:9FAC-20240306185500-Deb-20240306183100"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-2601:5CC:8300:A7F0:154D:8DE5:E43F:9FAC-20240306185500-Deb-20240306183100"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Deb-20240306185600-2601:5CC:8300:A7F0:154D:8DE5:E43F:9FAC-20240306185500"></span>It's always a problem when people conceal their identity and spend all their time on the kind of hit-and-run edits that you seem to specialize in. I'm unimpressed. <a href="/wiki/User:Deb" title="User:Deb">Deb</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Deb#c-Deb-20240306185600-2601:5CC:8300:A7F0:154D:8DE5:E43F:9FAC-20240306185500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:56, 6 March 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Deb-20240306185600-2601:5CC:8300:A7F0:154D:8DE5:E43F:9FAC-20240306185500"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Deb-20240306185600-2601:5CC:8300:A7F0:154D:8DE5:E43F:9FAC-20240306185500"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-2601:5CC:8300:A7F0:154D:8DE5:E43F:9FAC-20240306185900-Deb-20240306185600"></span>My identity is less-concealed then yours is, and I reject the assertion that I am a <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:HITANDRUN" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:HITANDRUN">WP:HITANDRUN</a> editor. Further it is not my job to impress you or anyone else, I don't care if I do, I only seek to follow policy. At the moment I am asking you to follow policy and undelete the page. Everything else is off-topic. <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/2601:5CC:8300:A7F0:154D:8DE5:E43F:9FAC" title="Special:Contributions/2601:5CC:8300:A7F0:154D:8DE5:E43F:9FAC">2601:5CC:8300:A7F0:154D:8DE5:E43F:9FAC</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:2601:5CC:8300:A7F0:154D:8DE5:E43F:9FAC" title="User talk:2601:5CC:8300:A7F0:154D:8DE5:E43F:9FAC">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Deb#c-2601:5CC:8300:A7F0:154D:8DE5:E43F:9FAC-20240306185900-Deb-20240306185600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:59, 6 March 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-2601:5CC:8300:A7F0:154D:8DE5:E43F:9FAC-20240306185900-Deb-20240306185600"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-2601:5CC:8300:A7F0:154D:8DE5:E43F:9FAC-20240306185900-Deb-20240306185600"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="PA_by_IP_at_the_page_of_a_recently_blocked_editor" data-mw-thread-id="h-PA_by_IP_at_the_page_of_a_recently_blocked_editor-20240309180000"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-PA_by_IP_at_the_page_of_a_recently_blocked_editor-20240309180000"></span>PA by IP at the page of a recently blocked editor<span data-mw-comment-end="h-PA_by_IP_at_the_page_of_a_recently_blocked_editor-20240309180000"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Deb&action=edit&section=15" title="Edit section: PA by IP at the page of a recently blocked editor"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Schrödinger's_jellyfish-20240309180000-PA_by_IP_at_the_page_of_a_recently_blocked_editor"></span>Assuming this is some loutsocking - see <a href="/wiki/Special:Diff/1212781741" title="Special:Diff/1212781741">Special:Diff/1212781741</a>. I've refactored their talk page appropriately, though the IP will probably need some sort of brief block (either for evasion, or for the personal attacks). <a href="/wiki/User:Schr%C3%B6dinger%27s_jellyfish" class="mw-redirect" title="User:Schrödinger's jellyfish"><small style="color:#0080FF;background:#EAEAFF;border:2px solid;border-radius:4px;padding:0 4px">Schrödinger's jellyfish</small></a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Schr%C3%B6dinger%27s_jellyfish" class="mw-redirect" title="User talk:Schrödinger's jellyfish">✉</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Deb#c-Schrödinger's_jellyfish-20240309180000-PA_by_IP_at_the_page_of_a_recently_blocked_editor" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:00, 9 March 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Schrödinger's_jellyfish-20240309180000-PA_by_IP_at_the_page_of_a_recently_blocked_editor"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Schrödinger's_jellyfish-20240309180000-PA_by_IP_at_the_page_of_a_recently_blocked_editor"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-NoobThreePointOh-20240313113600-Schrödinger's_jellyfish-20240309180000"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:Schr%C3%B6dinger%27s_jellyfish" class="mw-redirect" title="User:Schrödinger's jellyfish">Schrödinger's jellyfish</a> Apparently, Deb blocked the IP... indefinitely. I'm confused on why she put indefinitely, because I've never seen an IP be blocked indefinitely. I assume she meant to put something like a couple of weeks or months? Either that, or it was a pretty big mistake. I assume that there might be other people also using the IP, so Deb, if you're reading this, I might recommend changing the duration of the block for the IP. <a href="/wiki/User:NoobThreePointOh" title="User:NoobThreePointOh">NoobThreePointOh</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:NoobThreePointOh" title="User talk:NoobThreePointOh">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Deb#c-NoobThreePointOh-20240313113600-Schrödinger's_jellyfish-20240309180000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:36, 13 March 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-NoobThreePointOh-20240313113600-Schrödinger's_jellyfish-20240309180000"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-NoobThreePointOh-20240313113600-Schrödinger's_jellyfish-20240309180000"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Deb-20240320150700-NoobThreePointOh-20240313113600"></span>Yes, you're right. I was still thinking about it, then I went on holiday. Thanks for the reminder. <a href="/wiki/User:Deb" title="User:Deb">Deb</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Deb#c-Deb-20240320150700-NoobThreePointOh-20240313113600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:07, 20 March 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Deb-20240320150700-NoobThreePointOh-20240313113600"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Deb-20240320150700-NoobThreePointOh-20240313113600"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="AIV_Board" data-mw-thread-id="h-AIV_Board-20240310104900"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-AIV_Board-20240310104900"></span>AIV Board<span data-mw-comment-end="h-AIV_Board-20240310104900"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Deb&action=edit&section=16" title="Edit section: AIV Board"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Cahk-20240310104900-AIV_Board"></span>You may wish to review the AIV board. <a href="/wiki/User:Cahk" title="User:Cahk">Cahk</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Cahk" title="User talk:Cahk">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Deb#c-Cahk-20240310104900-AIV_Board" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:49, 10 March 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Cahk-20240310104900-AIV_Board"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Cahk-20240310104900-AIV_Board"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Rewrite_the_article_or_with_similar_topic" data-mw-thread-id="h-Rewrite_the_article_or_with_similar_topic-20240313110100"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Rewrite_the_article_or_with_similar_topic-20240313110100"></span>Rewrite the article or with similar topic<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Rewrite_the_article_or_with_similar_topic-20240313110100"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Deb&action=edit&section=17" title="Edit section: Rewrite the article or with similar topic"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Suri.doan-20240313110100-Rewrite_the_article_or_with_similar_topic"></span>As my previous two drafts have been deleted, can I rewrite them with corrected language that doesn't infringe the COI policy? Or can I write an article about the person's book? <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Suri.doan&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Suri.doan (page does not exist)">Suri.doan</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Suri.doan" title="User talk:Suri.doan">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Deb#c-Suri.doan-20240313110100-Rewrite_the_article_or_with_similar_topic" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:01, 13 March 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Suri.doan-20240313110100-Rewrite_the_article_or_with_similar_topic"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Suri.doan-20240313110100-Rewrite_the_article_or_with_similar_topic"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="RFA2024_update:_no_longer_accepting_new_proposals_in_phase_I" data-mw-thread-id="h-RFA2024_update:_no_longer_accepting_new_proposals_in_phase_I-20240314105300"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-RFA2024_update:_no_longer_accepting_new_proposals_in_phase_I-20240314105300"></span>RFA2024 update: no longer accepting new proposals in phase I<span data-mw-comment-end="h-RFA2024_update:_no_longer_accepting_new_proposals_in_phase_I-20240314105300"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Deb&action=edit&section=18" title="Edit section: RFA2024 update: no longer accepting new proposals in phase I"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-MediaWiki_message_delivery-20240314105300-RFA2024_update:_no_longer_accepting_new_proposals_in_phase_I"></span>Hey there! This is to let you know that phase I of the <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Requests_for_adminship/2024_review" title="Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/2024 review">2024 requests for adminship (RfA) review</a> is now <b>no longer accepting new proposals</b>. Lots of proposals remain open for discussion, and the current round of review looks to be on a good track towards making significant progress towards improving <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Requests_for_adminship" title="Wikipedia:Requests for adminship">RfA</a>'s structure and environment. I'd like to give my heartfelt thanks to everyone who has given us their idea for change to make RfA better, and the same to everyone who has given the necessary feedback to improve those ideas. The following proposals remain open for discussion: </p> <ul><li><b><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Requests_for_adminship/2024_review/Phase_I#Proposal_2:_Add_a_reminder_of_civility_norms_at_RfA" title="Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/2024 review/Phase I">Proposal 2</a></b>, initiated by <span class="plainlinks"><a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:HouseBlaster">HouseBlaster</a></span>, provides for the addition of a text box at <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Requests_for_adminship" title="Wikipedia:Requests for adminship">Wikipedia:Requests for adminship</a> reminding all editors of our policies and enforcement mechanisms around decorum.</li> <li><b><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Requests_for_adminship/2024_review/Phase_I#Proposal_3:_Add_three_days_of_discussion_before_voting_(trial)" title="Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/2024 review/Phase I">Proposals 3</a></b> and <b><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Requests_for_adminship/2024_review/Phase_I#Proposal_3b:_Make_the_first_two_days_discussion-only_(trial)" title="Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/2024 review/Phase I">3b</a></b>, initiated by <span class="plainlinks"><a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Barkeep49">Barkeep49</a></span> and <span class="plainlinks"><a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Usedtobecool">Usedtobecool</a></span>, respectively, provide for trials of discussion-only periods at RfA. The first would add three extra discussion-only days to the beginning, while the second would convert the first two days to discussion-only.</li> <li><b><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Requests_for_adminship/2024_review/Phase_I#Proposal_4:_Prohibit_threaded_discussion_(trial)" title="Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/2024 review/Phase I">Proposal 5</a></b>, initiated by <span class="plainlinks"><a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:SilkTork">SilkTork</a></span>, provides for a trial of RfAs without threaded discussion in the voting sections.</li> <li><b><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Requests_for_adminship/2024_review/Phase_I#Proposal_6c:_Provisional_adminship_via_sortition_(admin_nomination)" title="Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/2024 review/Phase I">Proposals 6c</a></b> and <b><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Requests_for_adminship/2024_review/Phase_I#Proposal_6d:_Provisional_adminship_via_sortition_(criteria_to_be_determined)" title="Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/2024 review/Phase I">6d</a></b>, initiated by <span class="plainlinks"><a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:BilledMammal">BilledMammal</a></span>, provide for allowing users to be selected as provisional admins for a limited time through various concrete selection criteria and smaller-scale vetting.</li> <li><b><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Requests_for_adminship/2024_review/Phase_I#Proposal_7:_Threaded_General_Comments" title="Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/2024 review/Phase I">Proposal 7</a></b>, initiated by <span class="plainlinks"><a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Lee_Vilenski">Lee Vilenski</a></span>, provides for the "General discussion" section being broken up with section headings.</li> <li><b><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Requests_for_adminship/2024_review/Phase_I#Proposal_9b:_Require_links_for_claims_of_specific_policy_violations" title="Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/2024 review/Phase I">Proposal 9b</a></b>, initiated by <span class="plainlinks"><a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Reaper_Eternal">Reaper Eternal</a></span>, provides for the requirement that allegations of policy violation be substantiated with appropriate links to where the alleged misconduct occured.</li> <li><b><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Requests_for_adminship/2024_review/Phase_I#Proposal_12c:_Lower_the_high_end_of_the_bureaucrats'_discretionary_zone_from_75%_to_70%" title="Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/2024 review/Phase I">Proposals 12c</a></b>, <b><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Requests_for_adminship/2024_review/Phase_I#Proposal_21:_Reduce_threshold_of_consensus_at_RfA" title="Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/2024 review/Phase I">21</a></b>, and <b><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Requests_for_adminship/2024_review/Phase_I#Proposal_21b:_Slightly_reduce_threshold_of_consensus_at_RfA" title="Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/2024 review/Phase I">21b</a></b>, initiated by <span class="plainlinks"><a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:City_of_Silver">City of Silver</a></span>, <a href="/wiki/User:Ritchie333" title="User:Ritchie333">Ritchie333</a>, and <a href="/wiki/User:HouseBlaster" title="User:HouseBlaster">HouseBlaster</a>, respectively, provide for reducing the discretionary zone, which currently extends from 65% to 75%. The first would reduce it 65%–70%, the second would reduce it to 50%–66%, and the third would reduce it to 60%–70%.</li> <li><b><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Requests_for_adminship/2024_review/Phase_I#Proposal_13:_Admin_elections" title="Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/2024 review/Phase I">Proposal 13</a></b>, initiated by <span class="plainlinks"><a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Novem_Lingaue">Novem Lingaue</a></span>, provides for periodic, privately balloted admin elections.</li> <li><b><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Requests_for_adminship/2024_review/Phase_I#Proposal_14:_Suffrage_requirements" title="Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/2024 review/Phase I">Proposal 14</a></b>, initiated by <span class="plainlinks"><a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Kusma">Kusma</a></span>, provides for the creation of some minimum suffrage requirements to cast a vote.</li> <li><b><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Requests_for_adminship/2024_review/Phase_I#Proposal_16:_Allow_the_community_to_initiate_recall_RfAs" title="Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/2024 review/Phase I">Proposals 16</a></b> and <b><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Requests_for_adminship/2024_review/Phase_I#Proposal_16c:_Community_recall_process_based_on_dewiki" title="Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/2024 review/Phase I">16c</a></b>, initiated by <span class="plainlinks"><a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Thebiguglyalien">Thebiguglyalien</a></span> and <span class="plainlinks"><a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Soni">Soni</a></span>, respectively, provide for community-based admin desysop procedures. 16 would desysop where consensus is established in favor at the <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard" title="Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard">administrators' noticeboard</a>; 16c would allow a petition to force reconfirmation.</li> <li><b><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Requests_for_adminship/2024_review/Phase_I#Proposal_16e:_Allow_the_community_to_initiate_recall_RfBs" title="Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/2024 review/Phase I">Proposal 16e</a></b>, initiated by <span class="plainlinks"><a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:BilledMammal">BilledMammal</a></span>, would extend the recall procedures of 16 to bureaucrats.</li> <li><b><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Requests_for_adminship/2024_review/Phase_I#Proposal_17:_Have_named_Admins/crats_to_monitor_infractions" title="Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/2024 review/Phase I">Proposal 17</a></b>, initiated by <span class="plainlinks"><a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:SchroCat">SchroCat</a></span>, provides for "on-call" admins and 'crats to monitor RfAs for decorum.</li> <li><b><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Requests_for_adminship/2024_review/Phase_I#Proposal_18:_Normalize_the_RfB_consensus_requirements" title="Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/2024 review/Phase I">Proposal 18</a></b>, initiated by <span class="plainlinks"><a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Theleekycauldron">theleekycauldron</a></span>, provides for lowering the RfB target from 85% to 75%.</li> <li><b><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Requests_for_adminship/2024_review/Phase_I#Proposal_24:_Provide_better_mentoring_for_becoming_an_admin_and_the_RfA_process" title="Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/2024 review/Phase I">Proposal 24</a></b>, initiated by <span class="plainlinks"><a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:SportingFlyer">SportingFlyer</a></span>, provides for a more robust alternate version of the <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Requests_for_adminship/Optional_RfA_candidate_poll" title="Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/Optional RfA candidate poll">optional candidate poll</a>.</li> <li><b><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Requests_for_adminship/2024_review/Phase_I#Proposal_25:_Require_nominees_to_be_extended_confirmed" title="Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/2024 review/Phase I">Proposal 25</a></b>, initiated by <span class="plainlinks"><a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Femke">Femke</a></span>, provides for the requirement that nominees be extended-confirmed in addition to their nominators.</li> <li><b><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Requests_for_adminship/2024_review/Phase_I#Proposal_27:_Introduce_training/periodic_retraining_for_admins" title="Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/2024 review/Phase I">Proposal 27</a></b>, initiated by <span class="plainlinks"><a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:WereSpielChequers">WereSpielChequers</a></span>, provides for the creation of a training course for admin hopefuls, as well as periodic retraining to keep admins from drifting out of sync with community norms.</li> <li><b><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Requests_for_adminship/2024_review/Phase_I#Proposal_28:_limiting_multi-part_questions" title="Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/2024 review/Phase I">Proposal 28</a></b>, initiated by <span class="plainlinks"><a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:HouseBlaster">HouseBlaster</a></span>, tightens restrictions on multi-part questions.</li></ul> <p>To read proposals that were closed as unsuccessful, please see <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Requests_for_adminship/2024_review/Phase_I/Closed_proposals" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/2024 review/Phase I/Closed proposals">Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/2024 review/Phase I/Closed proposals</a>. You are cordially invited once again to participate in the open discussions; when phase I ends, phase II will review the outcomes of trial proposals and refine the implementation details of other proposals. Another notification will be sent out when this phase begins, likely with the first successful close of a major proposal. Happy editing! <a href="/wiki/User:Theleekycauldron" title="User:Theleekycauldron">theleekycauldron</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Theleekycauldron" title="User talk:Theleekycauldron">talk</a> • she/her), via: </p><p><a href="/wiki/User:MediaWiki_message_delivery" title="User:MediaWiki message delivery">MediaWiki message delivery</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:MediaWiki_message_delivery" title="User talk:MediaWiki message delivery">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Deb#c-MediaWiki_message_delivery-20240314105300-RFA2024_update:_no_longer_accepting_new_proposals_in_phase_I" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:53, 14 March 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-MediaWiki_message_delivery-20240314105300-RFA2024_update:_no_longer_accepting_new_proposals_in_phase_I"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-MediaWiki_message_delivery-20240314105300-RFA2024_update:_no_longer_accepting_new_proposals_in_phase_I"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Deletion_review_for_Nibble_(unit)" data-mw-thread-id="h-Deletion_review_for_Nibble_(unit)-20240320000600"><span id="Deletion_review_for_Nibble_.28unit.29"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Deletion_review_for_Nibble_(unit)-20240320000600"></span>Deletion review for <a href="/wiki/Nibble_(unit)" class="mw-redirect" title="Nibble (unit)">Nibble (unit)</a><span data-mw-comment-end="h-Deletion_review_for_Nibble_(unit)-20240320000600"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Deb&action=edit&section=19" title="Edit section: Deletion review for Nibble (unit)"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-2601:5CC:8300:A7F0:5E4:48BE:836F:9F61-20240320000600-Deletion_review_for_Nibble_(unit)"></span>An editor has asked for <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Deletion_review#Nibble_(unit)" title="Wikipedia:Deletion review"><b>a deletion review</b></a> of <a href="/wiki/Nibble_(unit)" class="mw-redirect" title="Nibble (unit)">Nibble (unit)</a>. Because you closed the deletion discussion for this page, speedily deleted it, or otherwise were interested in the page, you might want to participate in the deletion review. <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/2601:5CC:8300:A7F0:5E4:48BE:836F:9F61" title="Special:Contributions/2601:5CC:8300:A7F0:5E4:48BE:836F:9F61">2601:5CC:8300:A7F0:5E4:48BE:836F:9F61</a> (<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:2601:5CC:8300:A7F0:5E4:48BE:836F:9F61&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:2601:5CC:8300:A7F0:5E4:48BE:836F:9F61 (page does not exist)">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Deb#c-2601:5CC:8300:A7F0:5E4:48BE:836F:9F61-20240320000600-Deletion_review_for_Nibble_(unit)" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:06, 20 March 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-2601:5CC:8300:A7F0:5E4:48BE:836F:9F61-20240320000600-Deletion_review_for_Nibble_(unit)"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-2601:5CC:8300:A7F0:5E4:48BE:836F:9F61-20240320000600-Deletion_review_for_Nibble_(unit)"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Deb-20240320150300-2601:5CC:8300:A7F0:5E4:48BE:836F:9F61-20240320000600"></span>No - I couldn't care less. <a href="/wiki/User:Deb" title="User:Deb">Deb</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Deb#c-Deb-20240320150300-2601:5CC:8300:A7F0:5E4:48BE:836F:9F61-20240320000600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:03, 20 March 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Deb-20240320150300-2601:5CC:8300:A7F0:5E4:48BE:836F:9F61-20240320000600"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Deb-20240320150300-2601:5CC:8300:A7F0:5E4:48BE:836F:9F61-20240320000600"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Hi!" data-mw-thread-id="h-Hi!-20240324163900"><span id="Hi.21"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Hi!-20240324163900"></span>Hi!<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Hi!-20240324163900"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Deb&action=edit&section=20" title="Edit section: Hi!"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Zoglophie-20240324163900-Hi!"></span>can you please revoke my new page reviewer permission? Thanks! <span style="border-radius:3em;padding:0 2px;background:#bdb2ff;border:2px solid #00b7eb"><a href="/wiki/User:Zoglophie" title="User:Zoglophie"><b style="color:#fffdd0">zoglophie</b></a></span><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Zoglophie" title="User talk:Zoglophie"><sup style="color:#1167b1">•talk•</sup></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Deb#c-Zoglophie-20240324163900-Hi!" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:39, 24 March 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Zoglophie-20240324163900-Hi!"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Zoglophie-20240324163900-Hi!"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Deb-20240324171300-Zoglophie-20240324163900"></span>You don't need it revoked - just don't do it. If you ever change your mind, you'll be able to start again. Is there some other reason? <a href="/wiki/User:Deb" title="User:Deb">Deb</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Deb#c-Deb-20240324171300-Zoglophie-20240324163900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:13, 24 March 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Deb-20240324171300-Zoglophie-20240324163900"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Deb-20240324171300-Zoglophie-20240324163900"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Zoglophie-20240324171900-Deb-20240324171300"></span>I don't think i can commit to its demands anymore and want my privilege to be revoked. Hope this explains. <span style="border-radius:3em;padding:0 2px;background:#bdb2ff;border:2px solid #00b7eb"><a href="/wiki/User:Zoglophie" title="User:Zoglophie"><b style="color:#fffdd0">zoglophie</b></a></span><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Zoglophie" title="User talk:Zoglophie"><sup style="color:#1167b1">•talk•</sup></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Deb#c-Zoglophie-20240324171900-Deb-20240324171300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:19, 24 March 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Zoglophie-20240324171900-Deb-20240324171300"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Zoglophie-20240324171900-Deb-20240324171300"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Deb-20240324174900-Zoglophie-20240324171900"></span>There aren't really any demands, you know. You don't <i>have</i> to do it just because you have the ability. <a href="/wiki/User:Deb" title="User:Deb">Deb</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Deb#c-Deb-20240324174900-Zoglophie-20240324171900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:49, 24 March 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Deb-20240324174900-Zoglophie-20240324171900"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Deb-20240324174900-Zoglophie-20240324171900"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-IvyWanderer-20240326120000-Hi!"></span>Hi @<a href="/wiki/User:Deb" title="User:Deb">Deb</a>, Why you delete my latest article? <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:IvyWanderer&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:IvyWanderer (page does not exist)">IvyWanderer</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:IvyWanderer" title="User talk:IvyWanderer">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Deb#c-IvyWanderer-20240326120000-Hi!" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:00, 26 March 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-IvyWanderer-20240326120000-Hi!"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-IvyWanderer-20240326120000-Hi!"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Deb-20240326122600-IvyWanderer-20240326120000"></span>I explained this on your Talk page. It's not your "latest" article, it's your <i>only</i> article, and it's obvious that you have a conflict of interest. Please don't attempt to create it again. <a href="/wiki/User:Deb" title="User:Deb">Deb</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Deb#c-Deb-20240326122600-IvyWanderer-20240326120000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:26, 26 March 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Deb-20240326122600-IvyWanderer-20240326120000"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Deb-20240326122600-IvyWanderer-20240326120000"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Hey" data-mw-thread-id="h-Hey-20240328102700"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Hey-20240328102700"></span>Hey<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Hey-20240328102700"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Deb&action=edit&section=21" title="Edit section: Hey"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Youknowwhoistheman-20240328102700-Hey"></span>Hi Deb, hope you are doing well! </p><p>i saw you you have removed all the content from my personal user page which showed the oppression of Muslim community, Christian community and Indian women in India. May I know the reason? Best! <a href="/wiki/User:Youknowwhoistheman" class="mw-redirect" title="User:Youknowwhoistheman">Youknowwhoistheman</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Youknowwhoistheman" class="mw-redirect" title="User talk:Youknowwhoistheman">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Deb#c-Youknowwhoistheman-20240328102700-Hey" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:27, 28 March 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Youknowwhoistheman-20240328102700-Hey"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Youknowwhoistheman-20240328102700-Hey"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Deb-20240328115400-Youknowwhoistheman-20240328102700"></span>The reason is that it conflicts with our <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:NPOV" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:NPOV">neutral point of view</a> policy. You are simply not allowed to express strong political opinions on your page, regardless of whether I agree with them or not. <a href="/wiki/User:Deb" title="User:Deb">Deb</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Deb#c-Deb-20240328115400-Youknowwhoistheman-20240328102700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:54, 28 March 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Deb-20240328115400-Youknowwhoistheman-20240328102700"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Deb-20240328115400-Youknowwhoistheman-20240328102700"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Youknowwhoistheman-20240328125300-Deb-20240328115400"></span>Okay Thank you. <a href="/wiki/User:Youknowwhoistheman" class="mw-redirect" title="User:Youknowwhoistheman">Youknowwhoistheman</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Youknowwhoistheman" class="mw-redirect" title="User talk:Youknowwhoistheman">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Deb#c-Youknowwhoistheman-20240328125300-Deb-20240328115400" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:53, 28 March 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Youknowwhoistheman-20240328125300-Deb-20240328115400"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Youknowwhoistheman-20240328125300-Deb-20240328115400"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Happy_First_Edit_Day!" data-mw-thread-id="h-Happy_First_Edit_Day!-20240330031700"><span id="Happy_First_Edit_Day.21"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Happy_First_Edit_Day!-20240330031700"></span>Happy First Edit Day!<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Happy_First_Edit_Day!-20240330031700"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Deb&action=edit&section=22" title="Edit section: Happy First Edit Day!"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-The_Herald-20240330031700-Happy_First_Edit_Day!"></span><style data-mw-deduplicate="TemplateStyles:r1238436933">.mw-parser-output .ombox{margin:4px 0;border-collapse:collapse;border:1px solid #a2a9b1;background-color:var(--background-color-neutral-subtle,#f8f9fa);box-sizing:border-box;color:var(--color-base,#202122)}.mw-parser-output .ombox.mbox-small{font-size:88%;line-height:1.25em}.mw-parser-output .ombox-speedy{border:2px solid #b32424;background-color:#fee7e6}.mw-parser-output .ombox-delete{border:2px solid #b32424}.mw-parser-output .ombox-content{border:1px solid #f28500}.mw-parser-output .ombox-style{border:1px solid #fc3}.mw-parser-output .ombox-move{border:1px solid #9932cc}.mw-parser-output .ombox-protection{border:2px solid #a2a9b1}.mw-parser-output .ombox .mbox-text{border:none;padding:0.25em 0.9em;width:100%}.mw-parser-output .ombox .mbox-image{border:none;padding:2px 0 2px 0.9em;text-align:center}.mw-parser-output .ombox .mbox-imageright{border:none;padding:2px 0.9em 2px 0;text-align:center}.mw-parser-output .ombox .mbox-empty-cell{border:none;padding:0;width:1px}.mw-parser-output .ombox .mbox-invalid-type{text-align:center}@media(min-width:720px){.mw-parser-output .ombox{margin:4px 10%}.mw-parser-output .ombox.mbox-small{clear:right;float:right;margin:4px 0 4px 1em;width:238px}}body.skin--responsive .mw-parser-output table.ombox img{max-width:none!important}@media screen{html.skin-theme-clientpref-night .mw-parser-output .ombox-speedy{background-color:#310402}}@media screen and (prefers-color-scheme:dark){html.skin-theme-clientpref-os .mw-parser-output .ombox-speedy{background-color:#310402}}</style><table class="box-First_Edit_Day plainlinks ombox ombox-notice" role="presentation" style="border: 2px solid CornflowerBlue; background: linear-gradient(to right, #a1ffce, #faffd1);"><tbody><tr><td class="mbox-image"><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Twemoji2_1f5d3.svg" class="mw-file-description"><img alt="Calendar emoji" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/2/22/Twemoji2_1f5d3.svg/50px-Twemoji2_1f5d3.svg.png" decoding="async" width="50" height="50" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/2/22/Twemoji2_1f5d3.svg/75px-Twemoji2_1f5d3.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/2/22/Twemoji2_1f5d3.svg/100px-Twemoji2_1f5d3.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="512" data-file-height="512"/></a></span></td><td class="mbox-text" style="padding: 0.75em; text-align:center;"><big><b>Happy First Edit Day!</b></big><br/>Hi Deb! On behalf of the <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Birthday_Committee" title="Wikipedia:Birthday Committee">Birthday Committee</a>, I'd like to wish you a very happy anniversary of the day you made <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Contributions/Deb&dir=prev&limit=1">your first edit</a> and became a Wikipedian! <a href="/wiki/User:The_Herald" class="mw-redirect" title="User:The Herald">The Herald (Benison)</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:The_Herald" class="mw-redirect" title="User talk:The Herald">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Deb#c-The_Herald-20240330031700-Happy_First_Edit_Day!" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">03:17, 30 March 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-The_Herald-20240330031700-Happy_First_Edit_Day!"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-The_Herald-20240330031700-Happy_First_Edit_Day!"></span></td><td class="mbox-imageright"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Liz-20240330035200-Happy_First_Edit_Day!"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Twemoji2_1f389.svg" class="mw-file-description"><img alt="Party popper emoji" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/95/Twemoji2_1f389.svg/50px-Twemoji2_1f389.svg.png" decoding="async" width="50" height="50" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/95/Twemoji2_1f389.svg/75px-Twemoji2_1f389.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/95/Twemoji2_1f389.svg/100px-Twemoji2_1f389.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="512" data-file-height="512"/></a></span></td></tr></tbody></table> <dl><dd><ul><li>Congratulations, Deb! Something to be celebrated! <span style="font-family:Papyrus; color:#800080;"><a href="/wiki/User:Liz" title="User:Liz"><i><b>L</b></i>iz</a></span> <sup style="font-family: Times New Roman; color: #006400;"><a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Liz" title="Special:Contributions/Liz"><i><b>Read!</b></i></a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Liz" title="User talk:Liz"><i><b>Talk!</b></i></a></sup> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Deb#c-Liz-20240330035200-Happy_First_Edit_Day!" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">03:52, 30 March 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Liz-20240330035200-Happy_First_Edit_Day!"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Liz-20240330035200-Happy_First_Edit_Day!"></span></li> <li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Buster7-20240330042000-Liz-20240330035200"></span>Hey! I remember you! I forget why... but I remember you! Happy First Edit Day. <a href="/wiki/User:Buster7" title="User:Buster7"><b><em style="font-family:Bradley Hand ITC;color:black">Buster Seven</em></b></a><small><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Buster7" title="User talk:Buster7"><b><em style="font-family:Bradley Hand ITC;color:black"> Talk</em></b></a></small> (UTC) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Deb#c-Buster7-20240330042000-Liz-20240330035200" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">04:20, 30 March 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Buster7-20240330042000-Liz-20240330035200"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Buster7-20240330042000-Liz-20240330035200"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Deb-20240330113000-Buster7-20240330042000"></span>Thanks. You've said some very kind things about me in the past. <a href="/wiki/User:Deb" title="User:Deb">Deb</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Deb#c-Deb-20240330113000-Buster7-20240330042000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:30, 30 March 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Deb-20240330113000-Buster7-20240330042000"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Deb-20240330113000-Buster7-20240330042000"></span></dd></dl></li></ul></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Knowlagepanel" data-mw-thread-id="h-Knowlagepanel-20240330035200"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Knowlagepanel-20240330035200"></span>Knowlagepanel<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Knowlagepanel-20240330035200"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Deb&action=edit&section=23" title="Edit section: Knowlagepanel"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Liz-20240330035200-Knowlagepanel"></span>Hello, Deb, </p><p>Thanks for your words to this editor. I have filed an SPI case naming Knowlagepanel as a possible sockpuppet as the previous socks had created these same articles and drafts on these two people who share a last name. They seem determined to get articles about themselves in main space. <span style="font-family:Papyrus; color:#800080;"><a href="/wiki/User:Liz" title="User:Liz"><i><b>L</b></i>iz</a></span> <sup style="font-family: Times New Roman; color: #006400;"><a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Liz" title="Special:Contributions/Liz"><i><b>Read!</b></i></a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Liz" title="User talk:Liz"><i><b>Talk!</b></i></a></sup> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Deb#c-Liz-20240330035200-Knowlagepanel" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">03:52, 30 March 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Liz-20240330035200-Knowlagepanel"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Liz-20240330035200-Knowlagepanel"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Deb-20240330113100-Liz-20240330035200"></span>They're absolutely shameless! <a href="/wiki/User:Deb" title="User:Deb">Deb</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Deb#c-Deb-20240330113100-Liz-20240330035200" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:31, 30 March 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Deb-20240330113100-Liz-20240330035200"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Deb-20240330113100-Liz-20240330035200"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Women_in_Red_April_2024" data-mw-thread-id="h-Women_in_Red_April_2024-20240330194100"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Women_in_Red_April_2024-20240330194100"></span>Women in Red April 2024<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Women_in_Red_April_2024-20240330194100"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Deb&action=edit&section=24" title="Edit section: Women in Red April 2024"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <table style="border: 5px solid #ABCDEF ; background-color: #FFFFFF;"> <tbody><tr> <td rowspan="2" style="vertical-align:middle;"> </td> <td rowspan="2"> </td> <td style="padding: 0; vertical-align: middle; height: 1.1em;"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Lajmmoore-20240330194100-Women_in_Red_April_2024"></span><figure class="mw-halign-right" typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:WiR_Health_2024.png" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/74/WiR_Health_2024.png/75px-WiR_Health_2024.png" decoding="async" width="75" height="69" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/74/WiR_Health_2024.png/113px-WiR_Health_2024.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/74/WiR_Health_2024.png/150px-WiR_Health_2024.png 2x" data-file-width="692" data-file-height="633"/></a><figcaption></figcaption></figure><b><big><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Women_in_Red" title="Wikipedia:WikiProject Women in Red">Women in Red</a></big></b> <b>|</b> <small>April 2024, Volume 10, Issue 4, Numbers 293, 294, 302, 303, 304</small> <p><br/> <b>Online events:</b> </p> <ul><li>New: <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Women_in_Red/Meetup/302" title="Wikipedia:WikiProject Women in Red/Meetup/302">Alphabet run S & T</a> | <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Women_in_Red/Meetup/303" title="Wikipedia:WikiProject Women in Red/Meetup/303">Gender studies</a> | <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Women_in_Red/Meetup/304" title="Wikipedia:WikiProject Women in Red/Meetup/304">Health</a></li></ul> <ul><li>Continuing: <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Women_in_Red/Meetup/293" title="Wikipedia:WikiProject Women in Red/Meetup/293">#1day1woman</a> | <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Women_in_Red/Meetup/294" title="Wikipedia:WikiProject Women in Red/Meetup/294">Education</a> <small>(year-long initiative)</small></li></ul> <p><b>Announcements</b> </p> <ul><li>The second round of "One biography a week" begins in April as part of <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Women_in_Red/Meetup/293" title="Wikipedia:WikiProject Women in Red/Meetup/293">#1day1woman</a>.</li></ul> <p><b>Tip of the month:</b> </p> <ul><li><i>If you run into technical problems, you might find help on our <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Women_in_Red/Tools_and_technical_support" title="Wikipedia:WikiProject Women in Red/Tools and technical support">Tools and technical support page</a></i></li></ul> <p><b>Other ways to participate:</b> </p> <ul><li><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Women_in_Red/New_members" title="Wikipedia:WikiProject Women in Red/New members">Become a member</a>. 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border: 1px solid #7D00B3; margin: 0.5em auto; padding: 0.5em; width:90%; text-align: center"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-CAPTAIN_RAJU-20240330200800-Happy_First_Edit_Day!_2"></span><figure class="mw-halign-left" typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Nuvola_apps_kate.svg" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/69/Nuvola_apps_kate.svg/50px-Nuvola_apps_kate.svg.png" decoding="async" width="50" height="39" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/69/Nuvola_apps_kate.svg/75px-Nuvola_apps_kate.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/69/Nuvola_apps_kate.svg/100px-Nuvola_apps_kate.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="481" data-file-height="373"/></a><figcaption></figcaption></figure><span style="font-weight:bold;font-size:125%;">Happy First Edit Day!</span><figure class="mw-halign-right" typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Nuvola_apps_date.svg" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7b/Nuvola_apps_date.svg/50px-Nuvola_apps_date.svg.png" decoding="async" width="50" height="50" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7b/Nuvola_apps_date.svg/75px-Nuvola_apps_date.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7b/Nuvola_apps_date.svg/100px-Nuvola_apps_date.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="128" data-file-height="128"/></a><figcaption></figcaption></figure> <p>Have a very happy first edit anniversary! </p><p>From the <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:BDAYCOM" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:BDAYCOM">Birthday Committee</a>, <a href="/wiki/User:CAPTAIN_RAJU" title="User:CAPTAIN RAJU"><span style="font-family: Bradley Hand ITC;"><b>CAPTAIN RAJU</b></span></a><sup><a href="/wiki/User_talk:CAPTAIN_RAJU" title="User talk:CAPTAIN RAJU">(T)</a></sup> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Deb#c-CAPTAIN_RAJU-20240330200800-Happy_First_Edit_Day!_2" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:08, 30 March 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-CAPTAIN_RAJU-20240330200800-Happy_First_Edit_Day!_2"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-CAPTAIN_RAJU-20240330200800-Happy_First_Edit_Day!_2"></span> </p> </div> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="G6_deletions" data-mw-thread-id="h-G6_deletions-20240330232300"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-G6_deletions-20240330232300"></span>G6 deletions<span data-mw-comment-end="h-G6_deletions-20240330232300"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Deb&action=edit&section=26" title="Edit section: G6 deletions"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Pppery-20240330232300-G6_deletions"></span>You seem to be repeatedly deleting things as G6 that clearly don't qualify: </p> <ul><li><a href="/w/index.php?title=Samdish_Bhatia&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Samdish Bhatia (page does not exist)">Samdish Bhatia</a> - deleting years of article history is never uncontroversial enough for G6, should have gone to RfD or AfD</li> <li><a href="/wiki/April_4,_1968" class="mw-redirect" title="April 4, 1968">April 4, 1968</a> - this was kept at RfD. A lone admin speedying something that survived a deletion discussion is egregiously out of process.</li> <li><a href="/wiki/September_26,_1963" class="mw-redirect" title="September 26, 1963">September 26, 1963</a> - ditto.</li> <li><a href="/wiki/June_7,_2000" class="mw-redirect" title="June 7, 2000">June 7, 2000</a> - given the two redirects above that survived RfD deleting this third one was clearly not uncontroversial</li></ul> <p>You've had numerous recent deletions overturned at deletion review. You really need to do better. <a href="/wiki/User:Pppery" title="User:Pppery">* Pppery *</a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Pppery" title="User talk:Pppery"><sub style="color:#800000">it has begun...</sub></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Deb#c-Pppery-20240330232300-G6_deletions" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:23, 30 March 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Pppery-20240330232300-G6_deletions"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Pppery-20240330232300-G6_deletions"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Deb-20240331090100-Pppery-20240330232300"></span>Luckily, I don't value your opinion. <a href="/wiki/User:Deb" title="User:Deb">Deb</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Deb#c-Deb-20240331090100-Pppery-20240330232300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:01, 31 March 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Deb-20240331090100-Pppery-20240330232300"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Deb-20240331090100-Pppery-20240330232300"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Pppery-20240331150400-Deb-20240331090100"></span>So be it. <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Deletion_review/Log/2024_March_31#Various_dates" title="Wikipedia:Deletion review/Log/2024 March 31">Wikipedia:Deletion review/Log/2024 March 31#Various dates</a> <a href="/wiki/User:Pppery" title="User:Pppery">* Pppery *</a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Pppery" title="User talk:Pppery"><sub style="color:#800000">it has begun...</sub></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Deb#c-Pppery-20240331150400-Deb-20240331090100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:04, 31 March 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Pppery-20240331150400-Deb-20240331090100"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Pppery-20240331150400-Deb-20240331090100"></span></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Stifle-20240402074100-Deb-20240331090100"></span>That response falls well short of <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:ADMINACCT" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:ADMINACCT">WP:ADMINACCT</a>. Own your mistakes and stop misusing the bit, or you may find yourself without it. <a href="/wiki/User:Stifle" title="User:Stifle">Stifle</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Stifle" title="User talk:Stifle">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Deb#c-Stifle-20240402074100-Deb-20240331090100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">07:41, 2 April 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Stifle-20240402074100-Deb-20240331090100"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Stifle-20240402074100-Deb-20240331090100"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Deb-20240402074700-Stifle-20240402074100"></span>Is that meant to be a threat? If not, I recommend you delete it before you find yourself at ANI. <a href="/wiki/User:Deb" title="User:Deb">Deb</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Deb#c-Deb-20240402074700-Stifle-20240402074100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">07:47, 2 April 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Deb-20240402074700-Stifle-20240402074100"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Deb-20240402074700-Stifle-20240402074100"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Stifle-20240402075500-Deb-20240402074700"></span>What I have written, I have written. If you wish to refer the matter to ANI, please go ahead. <a href="/wiki/User:Stifle" title="User:Stifle">Stifle</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Stifle" title="User talk:Stifle">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Deb#c-Stifle-20240402075500-Deb-20240402074700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">07:55, 2 April 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Stifle-20240402075500-Deb-20240402074700"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Stifle-20240402075500-Deb-20240402074700"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Deb-20240402080400-Stifle-20240402075500"></span>Just check out the interactions on my Talk page, and you'll see that I always respond politely to people who are polite to me. When people come here to threaten, demand and harangue, the best way for me to stay sane is to ignore them. If you decide to stay here in spite of your alleged distaste for drama, you might try doing as you would be done by. <a href="/wiki/User:Deb" title="User:Deb">Deb</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Deb#c-Deb-20240402080400-Stifle-20240402075500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">08:04, 2 April 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Deb-20240402080400-Stifle-20240402075500"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Deb-20240402080400-Stifle-20240402075500"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Moodu_Pani_(soundtrack)" data-mw-thread-id="h-Moodu_Pani_(soundtrack)-20240331100300"><span id="Moodu_Pani_.28soundtrack.29"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Moodu_Pani_(soundtrack)-20240331100300"></span>Moodu Pani (soundtrack)<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Moodu_Pani_(soundtrack)-20240331100300"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Deb&action=edit&section=27" title="Edit section: Moodu Pani (soundtrack)"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-The_Herald-20240331100300-Moodu_Pani_(soundtrack)"></span>Hey. Approval of the draft can happen only with the move to articlespace, for.which the redirect has to be deleted. Hence, it was tagged with G6-AfC CSD. I cannot accept the article till the redirect is deleted. Thanks.<br/>.<span id="The_Herald:1711879408878:User_talkFTTCLNDeb" class="FTTCmt"> — <a href="/wiki/User:The_Herald" class="mw-redirect" title="User:The Herald">The Herald (Benison)</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:The_Herald" class="mw-redirect" title="User talk:The Herald">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Deb#c-The_Herald-20240331100300-Moodu_Pani_(soundtrack)" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:03, 31 March 2024 (UTC)</a></span><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-The_Herald-20240331100300-Moodu_Pani_(soundtrack)"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-The_Herald-20240331100300-Moodu_Pani_(soundtrack)"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Deb-20240331103800-The_Herald-20240331100300"></span>Yes, I understand, I just did one of those. There's something odd about <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Moodu_Pani_(soundtrack)&oldid=1198267667">the redirect</a> that is preventing acceptance in the normal way. Can you nominate it again and I'll see what I can do. <a href="/wiki/User:Deb" title="User:Deb">Deb</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Deb#c-Deb-20240331103800-The_Herald-20240331100300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:38, 31 March 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Deb-20240331103800-The_Herald-20240331100300"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Deb-20240331103800-The_Herald-20240331100300"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-The_Herald-20240331110300-Deb-20240331103800"></span>Done. <a href="/wiki/User:The_Herald" class="mw-redirect" title="User:The Herald">The Herald (Benison)</a> (<a 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title="User talk:MediaWiki message delivery">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Deb#c-MediaWiki_message_delivery-20240401164700-Administrators'_newsletter_–_April_2024" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:47, 1 April 2024 (UTC)</a><span data-mw-comment-end="c-MediaWiki_message_delivery-20240401164700-Administrators'_newsletter_–_April_2024"></span></small><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-MediaWiki_message_delivery-20240401164700-Administrators'_newsletter_–_April_2024"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span></div> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Deletion_for_Okwudili_Nwakobi" data-mw-thread-id="h-Deletion_for_Okwudili_Nwakobi-20240402151700"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Deletion_for_Okwudili_Nwakobi-20240402151700"></span>Deletion for Okwudili Nwakobi<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Deletion_for_Okwudili_Nwakobi-20240402151700"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Deb&action=edit&section=29" title="Edit section: Deletion for Okwudili Nwakobi"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Helenaria-20240402151700-Deletion_for_Okwudili_Nwakobi"></span>Hello, </p><p>Please I'd like to know the specific words or phrases i used that made it seem like an advertisement. </p><p><br/> Thank you. <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Helenaria&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Helenaria (page does not exist)">Helenaria</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Helenaria" title="User talk:Helenaria">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Deb#c-Helenaria-20240402151700-Deletion_for_Okwudili_Nwakobi" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:17, 2 April 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Helenaria-20240402151700-Deletion_for_Okwudili_Nwakobi"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Helenaria-20240402151700-Deletion_for_Okwudili_Nwakobi"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Whack!" data-mw-thread-id="h-Whack!-20240403133500"><span id="Whack.21"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Whack!-20240403133500"></span>Whack!<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Whack!-20240403133500"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Deb&action=edit&section=30" title="Edit section: Whack!"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><b><code><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Dogfiter13-20240403133500-Whack!"></span>{{<a href="/wiki/Template:Trout" title="Template:Trout">trout</a>}}</code></b> <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Dogfiter13&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Dogfiter13 (page does not exist)">Dogfiter13</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Dogfiter13" title="User talk:Dogfiter13">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Deb#c-Dogfiter13-20240403133500-Whack!" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:35, 3 April 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Dogfiter13-20240403133500-Whack!"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Dogfiter13-20240403133500-Whack!"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Deb-20240403134600-Dogfiter13-20240403133500"></span>Mmm, my favourite! <a href="/wiki/User:Deb" title="User:Deb">Deb</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Deb#c-Deb-20240403134600-Dogfiter13-20240403133500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:46, 3 April 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Deb-20240403134600-Dogfiter13-20240403133500"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Deb-20240403134600-Dogfiter13-20240403133500"></span> <dl><dd><small><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Serial_Number_54129-20240403135100-Deb-20240403134600"></span>I hope that succulent feast was brought to you by <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Dogfiter13&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Dogfiter13 (page does not exist)">Dogfiter13</a> in recognition of your work *checks notes* <a href="/wiki/Special:Diff/1128585756" title="Special:Diff/1128585756">looking through random drafts</a> and deleting complete cruft ;) <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Serial_Number_54129" title="User talk:Serial Number 54129"><span style="color:black">——Serial Number 54129</span></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Deb#c-Serial_Number_54129-20240403135100-Deb-20240403134600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:51, 3 April 2024 (UTC)</a><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Serial_Number_54129-20240403135100-Deb-20240403134600"></span></small><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Serial_Number_54129-20240403135100-Deb-20240403134600"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Benmite's_collections_of_links" data-mw-thread-id="h-Benmite's_collections_of_links-20240404170700"><span id="Benmite.27s_collections_of_links"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Benmite's_collections_of_links-20240404170700"></span>Benmite's collections of links<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Benmite's_collections_of_links-20240404170700"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Deb&action=edit&section=31" title="Edit section: Benmite's collections of links"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Eastmain-20240404170700-Benmite's_collections_of_links"></span>Hello, </p><p>I saw your note to <a href="/wiki/User:Benmite" title="User:Benmite">User:Benmite</a> after I noticed that another editor had tagged some of those collection of links for speedy deletion. I don't think they are intended as advertising. They seem to be intended either as a starting point for a userspace draft article or as potential additions to an existing mainspace article. Overall, the topics of the collections seem to be notable. <span style="font-family: Times;"><a href="/wiki/User:Eastmain" title="User:Eastmain">Eastmain</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Eastmain" title="User talk:Eastmain">talk</a> • <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Eastmain" title="Special:Contributions/Eastmain">contribs</a>)</span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Deb#c-Eastmain-20240404170700-Benmite's_collections_of_links" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:07, 4 April 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Eastmain-20240404170700-Benmite's_collections_of_links"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Eastmain-20240404170700-Benmite's_collections_of_links"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Deb-20240404170900-Eastmain-20240404170700"></span>I'm sure you're right, but as they stand they could be construed as advertising. You'll have noticed that I left a note to that effect on the user's Talk page <a href="/wiki/User:Deb" title="User:Deb">Deb</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Deb#c-Deb-20240404170900-Eastmain-20240404170700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:09, 4 April 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Deb-20240404170900-Eastmain-20240404170700"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Deb-20240404170900-Eastmain-20240404170700"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Deletion_request" data-mw-thread-id="h-Deletion_request-20240405132100"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Deletion_request-20240405132100"></span>Deletion request<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Deletion_request-20240405132100"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Deb&action=edit&section=32" title="Edit section: Deletion request"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Aviram7-20240405132100-Deletion_request"></span>Dear Deb, Hello, can you delete <a href="/wiki/Hamza_Shaikh" title="Hamza Shaikh">Hamza Shaikh</a> page then after I'll able to accepted <a href="/wiki/Draft:Hamza_Shaikh" class="mw-redirect" title="Draft:Hamza Shaikh">Draft:Hamza Shaikh</a> from <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:AFC" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:AFC">WP:AFC</a> process. <span typeof="mw:File"><span><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/57/Face-wink.svg/25px-Face-wink.svg.png" decoding="async" width="25" height="25" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/57/Face-wink.svg/38px-Face-wink.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/57/Face-wink.svg/50px-Face-wink.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="48" data-file-height="48"/></span></span> <b>Thanks</b> ~~ <span style="background-color:magenta; padding: 2px 5px 1px 5px"><a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Aviram7&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Aviram7 (page does not exist)"><span style="color:white">αvírαm</span></a>|<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Aviram7" class="mw-redirect" title="User talk:Aviram7">(tαlk)</a></span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Deb#c-Aviram7-20240405132100-Deletion_request" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:21, 5 April 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Aviram7-20240405132100-Deletion_request"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Aviram7-20240405132100-Deletion_request"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="User_talk:SMSHandover" data-mw-thread-id="h-User_talk:SMSHandover-20240414163400"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-User_talk:SMSHandover-20240414163400"></span>User talk:SMSHandover<span data-mw-comment-end="h-User_talk:SMSHandover-20240414163400"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Deb&action=edit&section=33" title="Edit section: User talk:SMSHandover"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Deepfriedokra-20240414163400-User_talk:SMSHandover"></span>OK to restore the deleted revisions? <a href="/wiki/User:Deepfriedokra" title="User:Deepfriedokra">-- Deepfriedokra</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Deepfriedokra" title="User talk:Deepfriedokra">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Deb#c-Deepfriedokra-20240414163400-User_talk:SMSHandover" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:34, 14 April 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Deepfriedokra-20240414163400-User_talk:SMSHandover"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Deepfriedokra-20240414163400-User_talk:SMSHandover"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Deb-20240414164100-Deepfriedokra-20240414163400"></span>Sorry, why? <a href="/wiki/User:Deb" title="User:Deb">Deb</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Deb#c-Deb-20240414164100-Deepfriedokra-20240414163400" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:41, 14 April 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Deb-20240414164100-Deepfriedokra-20240414163400"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Deb-20240414164100-Deepfriedokra-20240414163400"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Deepfriedokra-20240414165800-Deb-20240414164100"></span>content <a href="/wiki/User:Deepfriedokra" title="User:Deepfriedokra">-- Deepfriedokra</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Deepfriedokra" title="User talk:Deepfriedokra">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Deb#c-Deepfriedokra-20240414165800-Deb-20240414164100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:58, 14 April 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Deepfriedokra-20240414165800-Deb-20240414164100"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Deepfriedokra-20240414165800-Deb-20240414164100"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Indian_Motortcycle_Manufacturing_Company" data-mw-thread-id="h-Indian_Motortcycle_Manufacturing_Company-20240416003500"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Indian_Motortcycle_Manufacturing_Company-20240416003500"></span>Indian Motortcycle Manufacturing Company<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Indian_Motortcycle_Manufacturing_Company-20240416003500"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Deb&action=edit&section=34" title="Edit section: Indian Motortcycle Manufacturing Company"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Jax_0677-20240416003500-Indian_Motortcycle_Manufacturing_Company"></span>IMHO, redirect "Indian Motortcycle Manufacturing Company" should not have been speedy deleted, as it is a plausible typo. The "R" and the "T" keys are next to one another on the keyboard. Can you please enlighten me? --<a href="/wiki/User:Jax_0677" title="User:Jax 0677">Jax 0677</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Jax_0677" title="User talk:Jax 0677">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Deb#c-Jax_0677-20240416003500-Indian_Motortcycle_Manufacturing_Company" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:35, 16 April 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Jax_0677-20240416003500-Indian_Motortcycle_Manufacturing_Company"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Jax_0677-20240416003500-Indian_Motortcycle_Manufacturing_Company"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Deb-20240416074800-Jax_0677-20240416003500"></span>It's not any more plausible than "Mototrcycle" or "Motrotrcycle" or "Mortorcycle" or any other typo. Would you like to add all those as well? <a href="/wiki/User:Deb" title="User:Deb">Deb</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Deb#c-Deb-20240416074800-Jax_0677-20240416003500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">07:48, 16 April 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Deb-20240416074800-Jax_0677-20240416003500"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Deb-20240416074800-Jax_0677-20240416003500"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Please_help_me_to_retrieve_Akshaya_Alshi_Page" data-mw-thread-id="h-Please_help_me_to_retrieve_Akshaya_Alshi_Page-20240416184700"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Please_help_me_to_retrieve_Akshaya_Alshi_Page-20240416184700"></span>Please help me to retrieve Akshaya Alshi Page<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Please_help_me_to_retrieve_Akshaya_Alshi_Page-20240416184700"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Deb&action=edit&section=35" title="Edit section: Please help me to retrieve Akshaya Alshi Page"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-MK908-20240416184700-Please_help_me_to_retrieve_Akshaya_Alshi_Page"></span>Can you Please help me to Regain this Akshaya Alshi Page, once the page is live, can add more info about Akshay Alshi, Please help to retrieve the Page Akshaya Alshi, Thank you <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:MK908&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:MK908 (page does not exist)">MK908</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:MK908" title="User talk:MK908">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Deb#c-MK908-20240416184700-Please_help_me_to_retrieve_Akshaya_Alshi_Page" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:47, 16 April 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-MK908-20240416184700-Please_help_me_to_retrieve_Akshaya_Alshi_Page"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-MK908-20240416184700-Please_help_me_to_retrieve_Akshaya_Alshi_Page"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Deb-20240416190500-MK908-20240416184700"></span>Sorry, no. See the advice on your Talk page. <a href="/wiki/User:Deb" title="User:Deb">Deb</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Deb#c-Deb-20240416190500-MK908-20240416184700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:05, 16 April 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Deb-20240416190500-MK908-20240416184700"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Deb-20240416190500-MK908-20240416184700"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-MK908-20240416190900-Deb-20240416190500"></span>What are the steps which I need to follow to retrieve the Page Akshaya Alshi, I still dint understand why this page was deleted Please explain, Thank you <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:MK908&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:MK908 (page does not exist)">MK908</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:MK908" title="User talk:MK908">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Deb#c-MK908-20240416190900-Deb-20240416190500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:09, 16 April 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-MK908-20240416190900-Deb-20240416190500"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-MK908-20240416190900-Deb-20240416190500"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Deb-20240416191800-MK908-20240416190900"></span>Please follow the advice given to you by <a href="/wiki/User:Ponyo" title="User:Ponyo">User:Ponyo</a>. I have nothing to add to that. <a href="/wiki/User:Deb" title="User:Deb">Deb</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Deb#c-Deb-20240416191800-MK908-20240416190900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:18, 16 April 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Deb-20240416191800-MK908-20240416190900"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Deb-20240416191800-MK908-20240416190900"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="The_Blue_Imperial_Rabbit_Page" data-mw-thread-id="h-The_Blue_Imperial_Rabbit_Page-20240422092100"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-The_Blue_Imperial_Rabbit_Page-20240422092100"></span>The Blue Imperial Rabbit Page<span data-mw-comment-end="h-The_Blue_Imperial_Rabbit_Page-20240422092100"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Deb&action=edit&section=36" title="Edit section: The Blue Imperial Rabbit Page"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-TanRabbitry-20240422092100-The_Blue_Imperial_Rabbit_Page"></span>Hello, </p><p>It did not seem to submit when I selected the button. Is it procedure to always submit an article for review, or only when you are first starting? If the former, why is it an option to publish immediately? I will try to use the "Article Wizard" program next time, but I don't really have another article in mind at the moment.Could you explain how I am not formatting references properly? I know you can include the lines from the source you are utilizing, but I don't normally see that in other articles. Or is it more technical? I believe a few citations I have made included extra spaces. I will try to correct that. I hope you found the article interesting and valuable. I have been making slight adjustments or corrections to other rabbit breed pages, but I haven't created any others. Most important and notable breeds are already featured and Blue Imperials were a conspicuously absent exception. Thank you, TanRabbitry </p><p>Post Script (I copied this from the other page in case you didn't see it. If you have just been too busy, I understand, </p><p><a href="/w/index.php?title=User:TanRabbitry&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:TanRabbitry (page does not exist)">TanRabbitry</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:TanRabbitry" title="User talk:TanRabbitry">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Deb#c-TanRabbitry-20240422092100-The_Blue_Imperial_Rabbit_Page" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:21, 22 April 2024 (UTC)</a>)<span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-TanRabbitry-20240422092100-The_Blue_Imperial_Rabbit_Page"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-TanRabbitry-20240422092100-The_Blue_Imperial_Rabbit_Page"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Deb-20240422092600-TanRabbitry-20240422092100"></span>No, but it is the procedure for newish users not to create articles in mainspace. When it was in draft, you could have submitted it for review, which would have helped you get constructive comments from other contributors. It should have had the draft template at the top, which would have helped you see how to submit it. For reference formatting, see <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Citing_sources" title="Wikipedia:Citing sources">Wikipedia:Citing sources</a>. <a href="/wiki/User:Deb" title="User:Deb">Deb</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Deb#c-Deb-20240422092600-TanRabbitry-20240422092100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:26, 22 April 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Deb-20240422092600-TanRabbitry-20240422092100"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Deb-20240422092600-TanRabbitry-20240422092100"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-TanRabbitry-20240422183300-Deb-20240422092600"></span>Thank you. <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:TanRabbitry&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:TanRabbitry (page does not exist)">TanRabbitry</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:TanRabbitry" title="User talk:TanRabbitry">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Deb#c-TanRabbitry-20240422183300-Deb-20240422092600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:33, 22 April 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-TanRabbitry-20240422183300-Deb-20240422092600"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-TanRabbitry-20240422183300-Deb-20240422092600"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-TanRabbitry-20240422092200-The_Blue_Imperial_Rabbit_Page"></span>Additionally, how many citations does the Blue Imperial page need added? Thank you, </p><p><a href="/w/index.php?title=User:TanRabbitry&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:TanRabbitry (page does not exist)">TanRabbitry</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:TanRabbitry" title="User talk:TanRabbitry">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Deb#c-TanRabbitry-20240422092200-The_Blue_Imperial_Rabbit_Page" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:22, 22 April 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-TanRabbitry-20240422092200-The_Blue_Imperial_Rabbit_Page"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-TanRabbitry-20240422092200-The_Blue_Imperial_Rabbit_Page"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Deb-20240422184900-TanRabbitry-20240422092200"></span>There is no precise answer to that. I would suggest reading the relevant section of <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Notability" title="Wikipedia:Notability">Wikipedia:Notability</a>. <a href="/wiki/User:Deb" title="User:Deb">Deb</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Deb#c-Deb-20240422184900-TanRabbitry-20240422092200" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:49, 22 April 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Deb-20240422184900-TanRabbitry-20240422092200"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Deb-20240422184900-TanRabbitry-20240422092200"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-TanRabbitry-20240422233800-Deb-20240422184900"></span>I believe under those criteria, the article fulfills its telos. It is only a short summary of the breeds history. I have only access to a finite number of books and sadly little (in proportion to its scope) of rabbit history is recorded "online." There are doubtless many, many books mentioning the Blue Imperial in its native country. I will try to add more references whenever I come across them in relevant books and/or articles. Thank you for your help,</dd> <dd><a href="/w/index.php?title=User:TanRabbitry&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:TanRabbitry (page does not exist)">TanRabbitry</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:TanRabbitry" title="User talk:TanRabbitry">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Deb#c-TanRabbitry-20240422233800-Deb-20240422184900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:38, 22 April 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-TanRabbitry-20240422233800-Deb-20240422184900"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-TanRabbitry-20240422233800-Deb-20240422184900"></span></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-TanRabbitry-20240426044000-Deb-20240422184900"></span>Hello,</dd> <dd>I'm not sure if there is a place to report this and I don't know if this is only affecting me for some reason, but there seems to be an issue with the search engine on Wikipedia. When I type in a article title, it says there isn't an article named that, but when I press the "enter" button, it goes straight to that page. I tried this for several page names. Where can I report this/find out if this is somehow only a problem with my device? Thank you,</dd> <dd><a href="/w/index.php?title=User:TanRabbitry&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:TanRabbitry (page does not exist)">TanRabbitry</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:TanRabbitry" title="User talk:TanRabbitry">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Deb#c-TanRabbitry-20240426044000-Deb-20240422184900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">04:40, 26 April 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-TanRabbitry-20240426044000-Deb-20240422184900"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-TanRabbitry-20240426044000-Deb-20240422184900"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-TanRabbitry-20240426044600-TanRabbitry-20240426044000"></span>O.K., now it appears to be showing the article on the search engine, but only if I type in the full title. For example, I typed in "Kate Smit-" (the American singer <a href="/wiki/Kate_Smith" title="Kate Smith">Kate Smith</a>) and it appeared only when the last letter was typed in. Any other time it shows article titles a few letters before the end. <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:TanRabbitry&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:TanRabbitry (page does not exist)">TanRabbitry</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:TanRabbitry" title="User talk:TanRabbitry">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Deb#c-TanRabbitry-20240426044600-TanRabbitry-20240426044000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">04:46, 26 April 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-TanRabbitry-20240426044600-TanRabbitry-20240426044000"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-TanRabbitry-20240426044600-TanRabbitry-20240426044000"></span></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Deb-20240426073500-TanRabbitry-20240426044000"></span>Actually, I had that problem yesterday. If it's still happening, try the <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Village_pump" title="Wikipedia:Village pump">Wikipedia:Village pump</a>. <a href="/wiki/User:Deb" title="User:Deb">Deb</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Deb#c-Deb-20240426073500-TanRabbitry-20240426044000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">07:35, 26 April 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Deb-20240426073500-TanRabbitry-20240426044000"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Deb-20240426073500-TanRabbitry-20240426044000"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-TanRabbitry-20240426191500-Deb-20240426073500"></span>Thank you. I looked there and it appears to have affected several people, but has now been fixed. It is working for me again. Thank you,</dd> <dd><a href="/w/index.php?title=User:TanRabbitry&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:TanRabbitry (page does not exist)">TanRabbitry</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:TanRabbitry" title="User talk:TanRabbitry">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Deb#c-TanRabbitry-20240426191500-Deb-20240426073500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:15, 26 April 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-TanRabbitry-20240426191500-Deb-20240426073500"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-TanRabbitry-20240426191500-Deb-20240426073500"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-TanRabbitry-20240512223800-TanRabbitry-20240426191500"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:Deb" title="User:Deb">Deb</a></dd> <dd>Hello,</dd> <dd>I have made considerable improvements to the <a href="/wiki/Blue_Imperial_rabbit" title="Blue Imperial rabbit">Blue Imperial</a> article, including changes to the references. As far as I am concerned, it now needs only a picture added. Do you think it still requires additional citations or improvements? Thank you,</dd> <dd><a href="/w/index.php?title=User:TanRabbitry&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:TanRabbitry (page does not exist)">TanRabbitry</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:TanRabbitry" title="User talk:TanRabbitry">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Deb#c-TanRabbitry-20240512223800-TanRabbitry-20240426191500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:38, 12 May 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-TanRabbitry-20240512223800-TanRabbitry-20240426191500"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-TanRabbitry-20240512223800-TanRabbitry-20240426191500"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Deb-20240513075400-TanRabbitry-20240512223800"></span>Refs are okay but I don't think those huge quotes enhance the article. Are they really necessary? <a href="/wiki/User:Deb" title="User:Deb">Deb</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Deb#c-Deb-20240513075400-TanRabbitry-20240512223800" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">07:54, 13 May 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Deb-20240513075400-TanRabbitry-20240512223800"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Deb-20240513075400-TanRabbitry-20240512223800"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-TanRabbitry-20240513180200-Deb-20240513075400"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:Deb" title="User:Deb">Deb</a></dd> <dd>I thought providing the entire reference would be an improvement. 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1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/f4/Gnome-colors-view-refresh.svg/40px-Gnome-colors-view-refresh.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="48" data-file-height="48"/></a></span> <a href="/wiki/Special:PermanentLink/1220304714#Resysop_request_(Nyttend)" title="Special:PermanentLink/1220304714">Nyttend</a></dd> <dd><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Gnome-colors-list-remove.svg" class="mw-file-description" title="Removed"><img alt="removed" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/f8/Gnome-colors-list-remove.svg/20px-Gnome-colors-list-remove.svg.png" decoding="async" width="20" height="20" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/f8/Gnome-colors-list-remove.svg/30px-Gnome-colors-list-remove.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/f8/Gnome-colors-list-remove.svg/40px-Gnome-colors-list-remove.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="48" data-file-height="48"/></a></span> <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1129693374"><div class="hlist inline"><ul><li><a href="/wiki/Special:PermanentLink/1216602202#Wikipedia:Inactive_administrators/2024#April_2024" title="Special:PermanentLink/1216602202">JohnOwens</a></li><li><a href="/wiki/Special:PermanentLink/1216602202#Wikipedia:Inactive_administrators/2024#April_2024" title="Special:PermanentLink/1216602202">Killiondude</a></li><li><a href="/wiki/Special:PermanentLink/1218467362#Handing_in_my_mop" title="Special:PermanentLink/1218467362">MelanieN</a></li><li><a href="/wiki/Special:PermanentLink/1218761294#Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Conflict_of_interest_management_closed" title="Special:PermanentLink/1218761294">Nihonjoe</a></li></ul></div></dd></dl> <p><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Wikipedia_bureaucrat.svg" class="mw-file-description"><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/95/Wikipedia_bureaucrat.svg/20px-Wikipedia_bureaucrat.svg.png" decoding="async" width="20" height="20" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/95/Wikipedia_bureaucrat.svg/30px-Wikipedia_bureaucrat.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/95/Wikipedia_bureaucrat.svg/40px-Wikipedia_bureaucrat.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="200" data-file-height="200"/></a></span> <b>Bureaucrat changes</b> </p> <dl><dd><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Gnome-colors-list-remove.svg" class="mw-file-description" title="Removed"><img alt="removed" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/f8/Gnome-colors-list-remove.svg/20px-Gnome-colors-list-remove.svg.png" decoding="async" width="20" height="20" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/f8/Gnome-colors-list-remove.svg/30px-Gnome-colors-list-remove.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/f8/Gnome-colors-list-remove.svg/40px-Gnome-colors-list-remove.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="48" data-file-height="48"/></a></span> <a href="/wiki/Special:PermanentLink/1218761294#Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Conflict_of_interest_management_closed" title="Special:PermanentLink/1218761294">Nihonjoe</a></dd></dl> </div> <div style="flex: 1 0 20em"> <figure class="mw-halign-right" typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:ANEWSicon.png" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/62/ANEWSicon.png/150px-ANEWSicon.png" decoding="async" width="150" height="151" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/62/ANEWSicon.png/225px-ANEWSicon.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/62/ANEWSicon.png/300px-ANEWSicon.png 2x" data-file-width="596" data-file-height="600"/></a><figcaption></figcaption></figure> <p><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Checkuser_Logo.svg" class="mw-file-description"><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/4/49/Checkuser_Logo.svg/20px-Checkuser_Logo.svg.png" decoding="async" width="20" height="20" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/4/49/Checkuser_Logo.svg/30px-Checkuser_Logo.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/4/49/Checkuser_Logo.svg/40px-Checkuser_Logo.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="110" data-file-height="110"/></a></span> <b>CheckUser changes</b> </p> <dl><dd><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Gnome-colors-view-refresh.svg" class="mw-file-description" title="Readded"><img alt="readded" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/f4/Gnome-colors-view-refresh.svg/20px-Gnome-colors-view-refresh.svg.png" decoding="async" width="20" height="20" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/f4/Gnome-colors-view-refresh.svg/30px-Gnome-colors-view-refresh.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/f4/Gnome-colors-view-refresh.svg/40px-Gnome-colors-view-refresh.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="48" data-file-height="48"/></a></span> <a href="/wiki/Special:PermanentLink/1219467786#Changes_to_the_functionaries_team,_April_2024" title="Special:PermanentLink/1219467786">Joe Roe</a></dd></dl> <p><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Oversight_logo.png" class="mw-file-description"><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/06/Oversight_logo.png/20px-Oversight_logo.png" decoding="async" width="20" height="20" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/06/Oversight_logo.png/30px-Oversight_logo.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/06/Oversight_logo.png/40px-Oversight_logo.png 2x" data-file-width="1058" data-file-height="1058"/></a></span> <b>Oversight changes</b> </p> <dl><dd><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Gnome-colors-list-remove.svg" class="mw-file-description" title="Removed"><img alt="removed" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/f8/Gnome-colors-list-remove.svg/20px-Gnome-colors-list-remove.svg.png" decoding="async" width="20" height="20" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/f8/Gnome-colors-list-remove.svg/30px-Gnome-colors-list-remove.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/f8/Gnome-colors-list-remove.svg/40px-Gnome-colors-list-remove.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="48" data-file-height="48"/></a></span> <a href="/wiki/Special:PermanentLink/1219467786#Changes_to_the_functionaries_team,_April_2024" title="Special:PermanentLink/1219467786">GeneralNotability</a></dd></dl> </div> </div> <p><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Green_check.svg" class="mw-file-description"><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/03/Green_check.svg/20px-Green_check.svg.png" decoding="async" width="20" height="20" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/03/Green_check.svg/30px-Green_check.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/03/Green_check.svg/40px-Green_check.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="600" data-file-height="600"/></a></span> <b>Guideline and policy news</b> </p> <ul><li>Phase I of the <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Requests_for_adminship/2024_review" title="Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/2024 review">2024 requests for adminship review</a> has concluded. Several proposals have passed outright and will proceed to implementation, including <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Requests_for_adminship/2024_review/Phase_I#Proposal_3b:_Make_the_first_two_days_discussion-only_(trial)" title="Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/2024 review/Phase I">creating a discussion-only period</a> (3b) and <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Requests_for_adminship/2024_review/Phase_I#Proposal_13:_Admin_elections" title="Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/2024 review/Phase I">administrator elections</a> (13) on a trial basis. Other successful proposals, such as <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Requests_for_adminship/2024_review/Phase_I#Proposal_2:_Add_a_reminder_of_civility_norms_at_RfA" title="Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/2024 review/Phase I">creating a reminder of civility norms</a> (2), will undergo further refinement in Phase II. Proposals passed on a trial basis will be discussed in Phase II, after their trials conclude. Further details on specific proposals can be found in the <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Requests_for_adminship/2024_review/Phase_I" title="Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/2024 review/Phase I">full report</a>.</li></ul> <p><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Octicons-tools.svg" class="mw-file-description"><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/d9/Octicons-tools.svg/20px-Octicons-tools.svg.png" decoding="async" width="20" height="20" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/d9/Octicons-tools.svg/30px-Octicons-tools.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/d9/Octicons-tools.svg/40px-Octicons-tools.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="1024" data-file-height="1024"/></a></span> <b>Technical news</b> </p> <ul><li>Partial action blocks are now in effect on the English Wikipedia. This means that administrators have the ability to restrict users from certain actions, including uploading files, moving pages and files, creating new pages, and sending thanks. <a href="https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T280531" class="extiw" title="phab:T280531">T280531</a></li></ul> <p><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Scale_of_justice_2.svg" class="mw-file-description"><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/0e/Scale_of_justice_2.svg/20px-Scale_of_justice_2.svg.png" decoding="async" width="20" height="20" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/0e/Scale_of_justice_2.svg/30px-Scale_of_justice_2.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/0e/Scale_of_justice_2.svg/40px-Scale_of_justice_2.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="204" data-file-height="208"/></a></span> <b>Arbitration</b> </p> <ul><li>The arbitration case <i><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Conflict_of_interest_management" title="Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Conflict of interest management">Conflict of interest management</a></i> has been closed.</li></ul> <p><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Info_Simple_bw.svg" class="mw-file-description"><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/5a/Info_Simple_bw.svg/20px-Info_Simple_bw.svg.png" decoding="async" width="20" height="20" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/5a/Info_Simple_bw.svg/30px-Info_Simple_bw.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/5a/Info_Simple_bw.svg/40px-Info_Simple_bw.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="512" data-file-height="512"/></a></span> <b>Miscellaneous</b> </p> <ul><li>This may be a good time to reach out to potential nominees to ask if they would consider an RfA.</li> <li>A <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:New_pages_patrol/Backlog_drives/May_2024" title="Wikipedia:New pages patrol/Backlog drives/May 2024"><b>New Pages Patrol backlog drive</b></a> is happening in May 2024 to reduce the number of unreviewed articles in the <a href="/wiki/Special:NewPagesFeed" title="Special:NewPagesFeed">new pages feed</a>. Currently, there is a backlog of over 15,000 articles awaiting review. <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:New_pages_patrol/Backlog_drives/May_2024/Participants" title="Wikipedia:New pages patrol/Backlog drives/May 2024/Participants"><b>Sign up here to participate!</b></a></li> <li>Voting for the <a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Universal_Code_of_Conduct/Coordinating_Committee/Election/2024" class="extiw" title="m:Special:MyLanguage/Universal Code of Conduct/Coordinating Committee/Election/2024">Universal Code of Conduct Coordinating Committee (U4C)</a> election is open until 9 May 2024. 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For more information and the responsibilities of the U4C, please <a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Universal_Code_of_Conduct/Coordinating_Committee/Charter" class="extiw" title="m:Universal Code of Conduct/Coordinating Committee/Charter">review the U4C Charter</a>. </p><p>Please share this message with members of your community so they can participate as well. </p><p>On behalf of the UCoC project team, </p><p><a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:RamzyM_(WMF)" class="extiw" title="m:User:RamzyM (WMF)">RamzyM (WMF)</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Deb#c-RamzyM_(WMF)-20240502231800-Reminder_to_vote_now_to_select_members_of_the_first_U4C" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:18, 2 May 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-RamzyM_(WMF)-20240502231800-Reminder_to_vote_now_to_select_members_of_the_first_U4C"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-RamzyM_(WMF)-20240502231800-Reminder_to_vote_now_to_select_members_of_the_first_U4C"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="RFA2024_update:_phase_I_concluded,_phase_II_begins" data-mw-thread-id="h-RFA2024_update:_phase_I_concluded,_phase_II_begins-20240505080800"><span id="RFA2024_update:_phase_I_concluded.2C_phase_II_begins"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-RFA2024_update:_phase_I_concluded,_phase_II_begins-20240505080800"></span>RFA2024 update: phase I concluded, phase II begins<span data-mw-comment-end="h-RFA2024_update:_phase_I_concluded,_phase_II_begins-20240505080800"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Deb&action=edit&section=41" title="Edit section: RFA2024 update: phase I concluded, phase II begins"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-MediaWiki_message_delivery-20240505080800-RFA2024_update:_phase_I_concluded,_phase_II_begins"></span>Hi there! Phase I of the <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Requests_for_adminship/2024_review" title="Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/2024 review">Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/2024 review</a> has concluded, with several impactful changes gaining community consensus and proceeding to various stages of implementation. Some proposals will be implemented in full outright; others will be discussed at phase II before being implemented; and still others will proceed on a trial basis before being brought to phase II. The following proposals have gained consensus: </p> <ul><li><b>Proposals 2 and 9b</b> (<b><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Requests_for_adminship/2024_review/Phase_II/Reminder_of_civility_norms_at_RfA" title="Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/2024 review/Phase II/Reminder of civility norms at RfA">phase II discussion</a></b>): <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Requests_for_adminship/2024_review/Phase_I#Proposal_2:_Add_a_reminder_of_civility_norms_at_RfA" title="Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/2024 review/Phase I">Add a reminder of civility norms at RfA</a> and <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Requests_for_adminship/2024_review/Phase_I#Proposal_9b:_Require_links_for_claims_of_specific_policy_violations" title="Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/2024 review/Phase I">Require links for claims of specific policy violations</a></li> <li><b>Proposal 3b</b> (in trial): <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Requests_for_adminship/2024_review/Phase_I#Proposal_3b:_Make_the_first_two_days_discussion-only_(trial)" title="Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/2024 review/Phase I">Make the first two days discussion-only</a></li> <li><b>Proposal 13</b> (in trial): <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Requests_for_adminship/2024_review/Phase_I#Proposal_13:_Admin_elections" title="Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/2024 review/Phase I">Admin elections</a></li> <li><b>Proposal 14</b> (implemented): <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Requests_for_adminship/2024_review/Phase_I#Proposal_14:_Suffrage_requirements" title="Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/2024 review/Phase I">Suffrage requirements</a></li> <li><b>Proposals 16 and 16c</b> (<b><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Requests_for_adminship/2024_review/Phase_II/Administrator_recall" title="Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/2024 review/Phase II/Administrator recall">phase II discussion</a></b>): <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Requests_for_adminship/2024_review/Phase_I#Proposal_16:_Allow_the_community_to_initiate_recall_RfAs" title="Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/2024 review/Phase I">Allow the community to initiate recall RfAs</a> and <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Requests_for_adminship/2024_review/Phase_I#Proposal_16c:_Community_recall_process_based_on_dewiki" title="Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/2024 review/Phase I">Community recall process based on dewiki</a></li> <li><b>Proposal 17</b> (<b><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Requests_for_adminship/2024_review/Phase_II/Designated_RfA_monitors" title="Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/2024 review/Phase II/Designated RfA monitors">phase II discussion</a></b>): <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Requests_for_adminship/2024_review/Phase_I#Proposal_17:_Have_named_Admins/crats_to_monitor_infractions" title="Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/2024 review/Phase I">Have named Admins/crats to monitor infractions</a></li> <li><b>Proposal 24</b> (<b><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Requests_for_adminship/2024_review/Phase_II/Mentoring_process" title="Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/2024 review/Phase II/Mentoring process">phase II discussion</a></b>): <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Requests_for_adminship/2024_review/Phase_I#Proposal_24:_Provide_better_mentoring_for_becoming_an_admin_and_the_RfA_process" title="Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/2024 review/Phase I">Provide better mentoring for becoming an admin and the RfA process</a></li> <li><b>Proposal 25</b> (implemented): <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Requests_for_adminship/2024_review/Phase_I#Proposal_25:_Require_nominees_to_be_extended_confirmed" title="Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/2024 review/Phase I">Require nominees to be extended confirmed</a></li></ul> <p>See the <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Requests_for_adminship/2024_review" title="Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/2024 review">project page</a> for a full list of proposals and their outcomes. A huge thank-you to everyone who has participated so far :) looking forward to seeing lots of hard work become a reality in phase II. <a href="/wiki/User:Theleekycauldron" title="User:Theleekycauldron">theleekycauldron</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Theleekycauldron" title="User talk:Theleekycauldron">talk</a>), via <a href="/wiki/User:MediaWiki_message_delivery" title="User:MediaWiki message delivery">MediaWiki message delivery</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:MediaWiki_message_delivery" title="User talk:MediaWiki message delivery">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Deb#c-MediaWiki_message_delivery-20240505080800-RFA2024_update:_phase_I_concluded,_phase_II_begins" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">08:08, 5 May 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-MediaWiki_message_delivery-20240505080800-RFA2024_update:_phase_I_concluded,_phase_II_begins"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-MediaWiki_message_delivery-20240505080800-RFA2024_update:_phase_I_concluded,_phase_II_begins"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Saira_Shah_Halim" data-mw-thread-id="h-Saira_Shah_Halim-20240509110200"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Saira_Shah_Halim-20240509110200"></span>Saira Shah Halim<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Saira_Shah_Halim-20240509110200"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Deb&action=edit&section=42" title="Edit section: Saira Shah Halim"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-122.180.178.150-20240509110200-Saira_Shah_Halim"></span>Hi, the page is being constantly deleted. How can I improve? There is some very basic info about Saira Shah, nothing promotional. Thanks. <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/122.180.178.150" title="Special:Contributions/122.180.178.150">122.180.178.150</a> (<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:122.180.178.150&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:122.180.178.150 (page does not exist)">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Deb#c-122.180.178.150-20240509110200-Saira_Shah_Halim" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:02, 9 May 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-122.180.178.150-20240509110200-Saira_Shah_Halim"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-122.180.178.150-20240509110200-Saira_Shah_Halim"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Deb-20240509135700-122.180.178.150-20240509110200"></span>When you have declared your <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:COI" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:COI">conflict of interest</a> as requested, you may get a response. <a href="/wiki/User:Deb" title="User:Deb">Deb</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Deb#c-Deb-20240509135700-122.180.178.150-20240509110200" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:57, 9 May 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Deb-20240509135700-122.180.178.150-20240509110200"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Deb-20240509135700-122.180.178.150-20240509110200"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Arbitration_Committee_case_request" data-mw-thread-id="h-Arbitration_Committee_case_request-20240510023500"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Arbitration_Committee_case_request-20240510023500"></span>Arbitration Committee case request<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Arbitration_Committee_case_request-20240510023500"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Deb&action=edit&section=43" title="Edit section: Arbitration Committee case request"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-AndrewPeterT-20240510023500-Arbitration_Committee_case_request"></span>You are involved in a recently filed request for arbitration. Please review the request at <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case#Persistent_WP:IDONTLIKEIT_behavior_in_WP:NCROY_discussions" title="Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case">Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case#Persistent WP:IDONTLIKEIT behavior in WP:NCROY discussions</a> and, if you wish to do so, enter your statement and any other material you wish to submit to the Arbitration Committee. As threaded discussion is not permitted on most arbitration pages, please ensure that you make all comments in your own section only. Additionally, the <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Arbitration_guide" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:Arbitration guide">guide to arbitration</a> and the <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Arbitration_Committee/Procedures#Arbitration_proceedings" title="Wikipedia:Arbitration Committee/Procedures">Arbitration Committee's procedures</a> may be of use. </p><p>Thanks, <i><b><a href="/wiki/User:AndrewPeterT" title="User:AndrewPeterT">AndrewPeterT</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:AndrewPeterT" title="User talk:AndrewPeterT">talk</a>) (<a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/AndrewPeterT" title="Special:Contributions/AndrewPeterT">contribs</a>)</b></i> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Deb#c-AndrewPeterT-20240510023500-Arbitration_Committee_case_request" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">02:35, 10 May 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-AndrewPeterT-20240510023500-Arbitration_Committee_case_request"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-AndrewPeterT-20240510023500-Arbitration_Committee_case_request"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Arlene_Lien" data-mw-thread-id="h-Arlene_Lien-20240510070900"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Arlene_Lien-20240510070900"></span><a href="/wiki/Arlene_Lien" title="Arlene Lien">Arlene Lien</a><span data-mw-comment-end="h-Arlene_Lien-20240510070900"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Deb&action=edit&section=44" title="Edit section: Arlene Lien"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Theroadislong-20240510070900-Arlene_Lien"></span>Reference <a href="/wiki/Arlene_Lien" title="Arlene Lien">Arlene Lien</a> an artcle which you added content to and I accepted from draft. User:Antwan123123 who clearly has a conflict of interest, wants to remove sourced content see my talk page <a class="external autonumber" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Theroadislong&diff=prev&oldid=1223150325">[1]</a> Any thoughts? <a href="/wiki/User:Theroadislong" title="User:Theroadislong">Theroadislong</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Theroadislong" title="User talk:Theroadislong">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Deb#c-Theroadislong-20240510070900-Arlene_Lien" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">07:09, 10 May 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Theroadislong-20240510070900-Arlene_Lien"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Theroadislong-20240510070900-Arlene_Lien"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Deb-20240512120800-Theroadislong-20240510070900"></span>Since the information's in the public domain, they shouldn't remove it. I guessed that this was why they kept re-submitting the same unsatisfactory article. See <a href="/wiki/User:DoubleGrazing" title="User:DoubleGrazing">User:DoubleGrazing</a>'s <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:DoubleGrazing&diff=prev&oldid=1223077278">comments here</a>. This should be a lesson to COI editors that Wikipedia articles can't be censored. <a href="/wiki/User:Deb" title="User:Deb">Deb</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Deb#c-Deb-20240512120800-Theroadislong-20240510070900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:08, 12 May 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Deb-20240512120800-Theroadislong-20240510070900"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Deb-20240512120800-Theroadislong-20240510070900"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Nomination_for_deletion_of_Template:1930s_in_music_(UK)" data-mw-thread-id="h-Nomination_for_deletion_of_Template:1930s_in_music_(UK)-20240511123800"><span id="Nomination_for_deletion_of_Template:1930s_in_music_.28UK.29"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Nomination_for_deletion_of_Template:1930s_in_music_(UK)-20240511123800"></span>Nomination for deletion of <a href="/w/index.php?title=Template:1930s_in_music_(UK)&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Template:1930s in music (UK) (page does not exist)">Template:1930s in music (UK)</a><span data-mw-comment-end="h-Nomination_for_deletion_of_Template:1930s_in_music_(UK)-20240511123800"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Deb&action=edit&section=45" title="Edit section: Nomination for deletion of Template:1930s in music (UK)"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Gonnym-20240511123800-Nomination_for_deletion_of_Template:1930s_in_music_(UK)"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/34/Ambox_warning_blue.svg/30px-Ambox_warning_blue.svg.png" decoding="async" width="30" height="26" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/34/Ambox_warning_blue.svg/45px-Ambox_warning_blue.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/34/Ambox_warning_blue.svg/60px-Ambox_warning_blue.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="378" data-file-height="326"/></span></span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Template:1930s_in_music_(UK)&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Template:1930s in music (UK) (page does not exist)">Template:1930s in music (UK)</a> has been <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Templates_for_discussion" title="Wikipedia:Templates for discussion">nominated for deletion</a>. You are invited to comment on the discussion at <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Templates_for_discussion/Log/2024_May_11#Template:1930s_in_music_(UK)" title="Wikipedia:Templates for discussion/Log/2024 May 11"><b>the entry on the Templates for discussion page</b></a>. <a href="/wiki/User:Gonnym" title="User:Gonnym">Gonnym</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Gonnym" title="User talk:Gonnym">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Deb#c-Gonnym-20240511123800-Nomination_for_deletion_of_Template:1930s_in_music_(UK)" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:38, 11 May 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Gonnym-20240511123800-Nomination_for_deletion_of_Template:1930s_in_music_(UK)"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Gonnym-20240511123800-Nomination_for_deletion_of_Template:1930s_in_music_(UK)"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Sangerpedia" data-mw-thread-id="h-Sangerpedia-20240514142100"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Sangerpedia-20240514142100"></span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Sangerpedia&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Sangerpedia (page does not exist)">Sangerpedia</a><span data-mw-comment-end="h-Sangerpedia-20240514142100"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Deb&action=edit&section=46" title="Edit section: Sangerpedia"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-A_smart_kitten-20240514142100-Sangerpedia"></span>Hi Deb, you deleted this as a <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:R3" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:R3">recently-created implausible redirect</a>; however, the <a href="https://quarry.wmcloud.org/query/82818" class="extiw" title="quarry:query/82818">archive table</a> indicates that it was around since at least 2008. Please could you undelete it, so that it can undergo discussion at RfD if necessary? All the best, <span style="color:#595959">‍—‍</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User:A_smart_kitten&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:A smart kitten (page does not exist)"><span style="color:#595959">a smart kitten</span></a><sub style="color:#595959">[<a href="/wiki/User_talk:A_smart_kitten" title="User talk:A smart kitten"><span style="color:#595959">meow</span></a>]</sub> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Deb#c-A_smart_kitten-20240514142100-Sangerpedia" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:21, 14 May 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-A_smart_kitten-20240514142100-Sangerpedia"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-A_smart_kitten-20240514142100-Sangerpedia"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Deb-20240514151300-A_smart_kitten-20240514142100"></span>You're right, sorry. I've undeleted it and deleted it with the correct criterion. <a href="/wiki/User:Deb" title="User:Deb">Deb</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Deb#c-Deb-20240514151300-A_smart_kitten-20240514142100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:13, 14 May 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Deb-20240514151300-A_smart_kitten-20240514142100"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Deb-20240514151300-A_smart_kitten-20240514142100"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-A_smart_kitten-20240514152100-Deb-20240514151300"></span>Regarding the re-deletion, I disagree that <style data-mw-deduplicate="TemplateStyles:r1248585704">@media screen{html.skin-theme-clientpref-night .mw-parser-output .inline-quote-talk{color:#00B785}}@media screen and (prefers-color-scheme:dark){html.skin-theme-clientpref-os .mw-parser-output .inline-quote-talk{color:#00B785}}.mw-parser-output .inline-quote-talk{font-family:Georgia,"DejaVu Serif",serif;color:#008560;quotes:none}.mw-parser-output .inline-quote-talk-italic{font-family:inherit;font-style:italic}.mw-parser-output .inline-quote-talk-marks{quotes:"\"""\""}</style><q class="inline-quote-talk">term is not mentioned in the destination article</q> is an applicable use of G6, as (imo) it doesn't fit the scope of being a <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1248585704"><q class="inline-quote-talk">technical deletion</q>. I still believe that it should undergo discussion at RfD prior to deletion; given <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:R#K4" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:R">its age</a>, and given that it could be a valid <span class="nowrap">{{</span><a href="/wiki/Template:R_to_article_without_mention" title="Template:R to article without mention">R to article without mention</a><span class="nowrap">}}</span>. All the best, <span style="color:#595959">‍—‍</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User:A_smart_kitten&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:A smart kitten (page does not exist)"><span style="color:#595959">a smart kitten</span></a><sub style="color:#595959">[<a href="/wiki/User_talk:A_smart_kitten" title="User talk:A smart kitten"><span style="color:#595959">meow</span></a>]</sub> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Deb#c-A_smart_kitten-20240514152100-Deb-20240514151300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:21, 14 May 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-A_smart_kitten-20240514152100-Deb-20240514151300"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-A_smart_kitten-20240514152100-Deb-20240514151300"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Deb-20240514152400-A_smart_kitten-20240514152100"></span>Sure. If you want it back, just add the term "Sangerpedia" into the destination article somewhere. <a href="/wiki/User:Deb" title="User:Deb">Deb</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Deb#c-Deb-20240514152400-A_smart_kitten-20240514152100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:24, 14 May 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Deb-20240514152400-A_smart_kitten-20240514152100"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Deb-20240514152400-A_smart_kitten-20240514152100"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-2601:5CC:8300:A7F0:A165:7AFC:68F9:104D-20240516153100-Deb-20240514152400"></span>I don't like piling on here, but this is pretty clearly a <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:!G6" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:!G6">WP:!G6</a>, and indeed <a href="/wiki/Template:R_without_mention" class="mw-redirect" title="Template:R without mention">Template:R without mentions</a> are sometimes retained at <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:RFD" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:RFD">WP:RFD</a>. As such please undelete the page, and subsequently list at RFD, thank you. <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/2601:5CC:8300:A7F0:A165:7AFC:68F9:104D" title="Special:Contributions/2601:5CC:8300:A7F0:A165:7AFC:68F9:104D">2601:5CC:8300:A7F0:A165:7AFC:68F9:104D</a> (<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:2601:5CC:8300:A7F0:A165:7AFC:68F9:104D&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:2601:5CC:8300:A7F0:A165:7AFC:68F9:104D (page does not exist)">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Deb#c-2601:5CC:8300:A7F0:A165:7AFC:68F9:104D-20240516153100-Deb-20240514152400" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:31, 16 May 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-2601:5CC:8300:A7F0:A165:7AFC:68F9:104D-20240516153100-Deb-20240514152400"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-2601:5CC:8300:A7F0:A165:7AFC:68F9:104D-20240516153100-Deb-20240514152400"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Deb-20240516153500-2601:5CC:8300:A7F0:A165:7AFC:68F9:104D-20240516153100"></span>Of course you like piling on. That's your MO. So that's now two people who think it shouldn't have been deleted and two who think it should have. <a href="/wiki/User:Deb" title="User:Deb">Deb</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Deb#c-Deb-20240516153500-2601:5CC:8300:A7F0:A165:7AFC:68F9:104D-20240516153100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:35, 16 May 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Deb-20240516153500-2601:5CC:8300:A7F0:A165:7AFC:68F9:104D-20240516153100"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Deb-20240516153500-2601:5CC:8300:A7F0:A165:7AFC:68F9:104D-20240516153100"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-2601:5CC:8300:A7F0:A165:7AFC:68F9:104D-20240516153900-Deb-20240516153500"></span>I prefer not personalize things, regardless if you remain unmoved please make that explicit and we can let the community decide with a dispassionate discussion at <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:DRV" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:DRV">WP:DRV</a>, thank you. <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/2601:5CC:8300:A7F0:A165:7AFC:68F9:104D" title="Special:Contributions/2601:5CC:8300:A7F0:A165:7AFC:68F9:104D">2601:5CC:8300:A7F0:A165:7AFC:68F9:104D</a> (<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:2601:5CC:8300:A7F0:A165:7AFC:68F9:104D&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:2601:5CC:8300:A7F0:A165:7AFC:68F9:104D (page does not exist)">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Deb#c-2601:5CC:8300:A7F0:A165:7AFC:68F9:104D-20240516153900-Deb-20240516153500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:39, 16 May 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-2601:5CC:8300:A7F0:A165:7AFC:68F9:104D-20240516153900-Deb-20240516153500"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-2601:5CC:8300:A7F0:A165:7AFC:68F9:104D-20240516153900-Deb-20240516153500"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Deb-20240516154700-2601:5CC:8300:A7F0:A165:7AFC:68F9:104D-20240516153900"></span>Can you offer any evidence that the term was ever referred to as "Sangerpedia" by any independent source? If it was, it should be mentioned in the article, which would make the redirect plausible and I would be happy to restore it, as I've already stated above. If it wasn't, its use could be confusing for those unfamiliar with this project. <a href="/wiki/User:Deb" title="User:Deb">Deb</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Deb#c-Deb-20240516154700-2601:5CC:8300:A7F0:A165:7AFC:68F9:104D-20240516153900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:47, 16 May 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Deb-20240516154700-2601:5CC:8300:A7F0:A165:7AFC:68F9:104D-20240516153900"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Deb-20240516154700-2601:5CC:8300:A7F0:A165:7AFC:68F9:104D-20240516153900"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-2601:5CC:8300:A7F0:A165:7AFC:68F9:104D-20240516155300-Deb-20240516154700"></span>Indeed that is an excellent rationale for an RFD nomination, but R3 only applies to <i>recently</i> created redirects and as I said this is pretty clearly a <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:!G6" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:!G6">WP:!G6</a>. Since there is no applicable <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:CSD" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:CSD">WP:CSD</a> criterion the appropriate way to get the page deleted is RFD. I make nominations there routinely, even of things I believe should be speedy-deletable. It takes very little time, in fact with the nomination statement pre-written you are probably only a handful of clicks, and less then 30 seconds away. The community strongly believes that following process is important in the area of deletion; in the end seeking to evade those processes will only cost everyone more time, including yourself. Please do us all a favor, undelete the page, and list at RFD, thank you. <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/2601:5CC:8300:A7F0:A165:7AFC:68F9:104D" title="Special:Contributions/2601:5CC:8300:A7F0:A165:7AFC:68F9:104D">2601:5CC:8300:A7F0:A165:7AFC:68F9:104D</a> (<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:2601:5CC:8300:A7F0:A165:7AFC:68F9:104D&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:2601:5CC:8300:A7F0:A165:7AFC:68F9:104D (page does not exist)">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Deb#c-2601:5CC:8300:A7F0:A165:7AFC:68F9:104D-20240516155300-Deb-20240516154700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:53, 16 May 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-2601:5CC:8300:A7F0:A165:7AFC:68F9:104D-20240516155300-Deb-20240516154700"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-2601:5CC:8300:A7F0:A165:7AFC:68F9:104D-20240516155300-Deb-20240516154700"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Deb-20240516170600-2601:5CC:8300:A7F0:A165:7AFC:68F9:104D-20240516155300"></span>I already undid the R3 deletion. <a href="/wiki/User:Deb" title="User:Deb">Deb</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Deb#c-Deb-20240516170600-2601:5CC:8300:A7F0:A165:7AFC:68F9:104D-20240516155300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:06, 16 May 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Deb-20240516170600-2601:5CC:8300:A7F0:A165:7AFC:68F9:104D-20240516155300"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Deb-20240516170600-2601:5CC:8300:A7F0:A165:7AFC:68F9:104D-20240516155300"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-2601:5CC:8300:A7F0:A165:7AFC:68F9:104D-20240516171100-Deb-20240516170600"></span>Yes I understand that, but it doesn't qualify for <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:G6" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:G6">WP:G6</a> either. Personally I am not too much of a stickler for deletion log entries being perfect every time so long as a CSD does indeed apply, but in this case no CSD apply, so RFD is the way forward. <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/2601:5CC:8300:A7F0:A165:7AFC:68F9:104D" title="Special:Contributions/2601:5CC:8300:A7F0:A165:7AFC:68F9:104D">2601:5CC:8300:A7F0:A165:7AFC:68F9:104D</a> (<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:2601:5CC:8300:A7F0:A165:7AFC:68F9:104D&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:2601:5CC:8300:A7F0:A165:7AFC:68F9:104D (page does not exist)">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Deb#c-2601:5CC:8300:A7F0:A165:7AFC:68F9:104D-20240516171100-Deb-20240516170600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:11, 16 May 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-2601:5CC:8300:A7F0:A165:7AFC:68F9:104D-20240516171100-Deb-20240516170600"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-2601:5CC:8300:A7F0:A165:7AFC:68F9:104D-20240516171100-Deb-20240516170600"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="A_Concern" data-mw-thread-id="h-A_Concern-20240518043600"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-A_Concern-20240518043600"></span>A Concern<span data-mw-comment-end="h-A_Concern-20240518043600"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Deb&action=edit&section=47" title="Edit section: A Concern"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-TanRabbitry-20240518043600-A_Concern"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:Deb" title="User:Deb">Deb</a> </p><p>Hello, </p><p>I have a concern about an editor called Drmies. He reverted several edits I made to a page (<a href="/wiki/Harrison_Butker" title="Harrison Butker">Harrison Butker</a>). I was trying to make it more balanced. He removed every edit with the excuse that one change I had made was wrong. I had removed the reference on the basis that a source was unreliable. He said it was. The source is described on the "Reliable Sources" page as being unreliable in the relevant area (politics and "societally sensitive issues"), so he either lied or was mistaken. Either way, why would every change be undone? </p><p>Additionally, while reporting a vandal, I noticed this statement: "I'm not going to block them for that one dumb-ass (sic) comment." This seems incredibly inappropriate language for both Wikipedia and especially an administrator. Shouldn't he be acting as a model editor, not using vulgar language? What should I, or what should in general, be done about this? Thank you, </p><p><br/> <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:TanRabbitry&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:TanRabbitry (page does not exist)">TanRabbitry</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:TanRabbitry" title="User talk:TanRabbitry">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Deb#c-TanRabbitry-20240518043600-A_Concern" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">04:36, 18 May 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-TanRabbitry-20240518043600-A_Concern"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-TanRabbitry-20240518043600-A_Concern"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-TanRabbitry-20240519020800-TanRabbitry-20240518043600"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:Deb" title="User:Deb">Deb</a></dd> <dd>Hello,</dd> <dd>I hope that you may tell me what would be the proper course of action here. Perhaps I am completely in the wrong here, but I do not see it. I attempted to apply the neutrality standard to a fairly <a href="/wiki/Harrison_Butker" title="Harrison Butker">inconsequential page</a> that seemed to be lacking. The editor Drmies has repeatedly <a class="external text" href="https://en.m.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Harrison_Butker&diff=prev&oldid=1224480796&title=Talk%3AHarrison_Butker&diffonly=1">mischaracterized</a> my actions, <a class="external text" href="https://en.m.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Harrison_Butker&diff=prev&oldid=1224357447&title=Harrison_Butker&diffonly=1">reversed</a> them for no reason and resorted to personal attacks. He accused me of adding a line I <a class="external text" href="https://en.m.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Harrison_Butker&diff=prev&oldid=1224480796&title=Talk%3AHarrison_Butker&diffonly=1">did not</a>, claimed unreliable sources were reliable, accused me of adding personal "<a class="external text" href="https://en.m.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Harrison_Butker&diff=prev&oldid=1224480124&title=Talk%3AHarrison_Butker&diffonly=1">commentary</a>" into an article and in <a class="external text" href="https://en.m.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Harrison_Butker&diff=prev&oldid=1224528450&title=Talk%3AHarrison_Butker&diffonly=1">this comment</a>, he misstated a change I proposed, insulted me and repeadly used obscenity. Also I don't know what he means by "counterpart." I don't know what to do. I have countered every point he has made and he is still intent on lying about me, my intentions and my actions. He has removed <a class="external text" href="https://en.m.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Harrison_Butker&diff=prev&oldid=1224474275&title=Harrison_Butker&diffonly=1">properly sourced material</a> , due to his obvious and admitted <a class="external text" href="https://en.m.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Harrison_Butker&diff=prev&oldid=1224473096&title=Talk%3AHarrison_Butker&diffonly=1">bias</a>. Isn't he in the wrong? Every time I respond, answer or counter, he changes the subject. I have also tried to remain polite and assume good intentions and he has repeatedly spoken very inappropriately and lied in his attacks. What should I do? Additionally, his accusation regarding reporting editors had to do with blatant vandals. I reported one, decided to take the initiative and warned them personally, then added an explanation to the vandal reporting page asking for correction if I made a mistake. I don't know what he's implying about that, but yet again he attacks me dishonestly and without cause. <dl><dd><a href="/w/index.php?title=User:TanRabbitry&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:TanRabbitry (page does not exist)">TanRabbitry</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:TanRabbitry" title="User talk:TanRabbitry">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Deb#c-TanRabbitry-20240519020800-TanRabbitry-20240518043600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">02:08, 19 May 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-TanRabbitry-20240519020800-TanRabbitry-20240518043600"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-TanRabbitry-20240519020800-TanRabbitry-20240518043600"></span></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-TanRabbitry-20240519185200-TanRabbitry-20240519020800"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:Deb" title="User:Deb">Deb</a></dd> <dd>I intend for this to be my final message on this subject until you respond (there is no rush, I do not expect an instant or fast answer). I wrote a careful and exact <a class="external text" href="https://en.m.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Harrison_Butker&diff=prev&oldid=1224643707&title=Talk%3AHarrison_Butker&diffonly=1">summary</a>, covering much of his actions and I asked him to actually answer for once, instead of changing the subject or resorting to personal attacks. Instead, he <a class="external text" href="https://en.m.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Harrison_Butker&diff=prev&oldid=1224644685&title=Talk%3AHarrison_Butker&diffonly=1">responded</a> with an extremely childish and obscene non-answer. I take that as a tacit, but full admission of his wrongdoing. Thank you,</dd> <dd><a href="/w/index.php?title=User:TanRabbitry&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:TanRabbitry (page does not exist)">TanRabbitry</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:TanRabbitry" title="User talk:TanRabbitry">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Deb#c-TanRabbitry-20240519185200-TanRabbitry-20240519020800" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:52, 19 May 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-TanRabbitry-20240519185200-TanRabbitry-20240519020800"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-TanRabbitry-20240519185200-TanRabbitry-20240519020800"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Request_to_Recreate_Draft:RG_Qluck_Wise" data-mw-thread-id="h-Request_to_Recreate_Draft:RG_Qluck_Wise-20240518233200"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Request_to_Recreate_Draft:RG_Qluck_Wise-20240518233200"></span>Request to Recreate Draft:RG Qluck Wise<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Request_to_Recreate_Draft:RG_Qluck_Wise-20240518233200"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Deb&action=edit&section=48" title="Edit section: Request to Recreate Draft:RG Qluck Wise"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Abigailka-20240518233200-Request_to_Recreate_Draft:RG_Qluck_Wise"></span>Dear @<a href="/wiki/User:Deb" title="User:Deb">Deb</a>, </p><p>I trust this message finds you in good spirits. I am reaching out to request permission to recreate the draft for the article on RG Qluck Wise, a notable Ghanaian record producer, author, and graphic designer. </p><p>Recognizing previous challenges leading to the deletion of the article, including concerns regarding notability and promotional language, I have diligently reviewed the deletion log and taken proactive measures to address these issues: </p><p>Notability: Extensive research has been conducted to ensure RG Qluck Wise's alignment with Wikipedia's notability guidelines for musicians, authors, and graphic designers. I have gathered reliable secondary sources to solidify his significance in these domains. </p><p>Neutral Tone: The article content has undergone thorough revision to eliminate any promotional language or bias. It now maintains a neutral and factual tone, focusing on delivering an objective overview of RG Qluck Wise's career and accomplishments. </p><p>Draft Status: Rather than directly resubmitting the article to the main space, my intention is to recreate it as a draft. This approach allows for further refinement and peer review before seeking publication. </p><p>Confident that the revised draft meets Wikipedia's rigorous standards and guidelines for inclusion, I seek your guidance and approval to ensure adherence to the correct procedure before proceeding. </p><p>Thank you sincerely for your time and consideration. I am receptive to any feedback or suggestions you may have to enhance the article further. </p><p>Warm regards, </p><p><a href="/wiki/User:Abigailka" title="User:Abigailka">Abigailka</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Abigailka" title="User talk:Abigailka">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Deb#c-Abigailka-20240518233200-Request_to_Recreate_Draft:RG_Qluck_Wise" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:32, 18 May 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Abigailka-20240518233200-Request_to_Recreate_Draft:RG_Qluck_Wise"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Abigailka-20240518233200-Request_to_Recreate_Draft:RG_Qluck_Wise"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Arbitration_case_request_declined" data-mw-thread-id="h-Arbitration_case_request_declined-20240519183300"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Arbitration_case_request_declined-20240519183300"></span>Arbitration case request declined<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Arbitration_case_request_declined-20240519183300"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Deb&action=edit&section=49" title="Edit section: Arbitration case request declined"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Dreamy_Jazz-20240519183300-Arbitration_case_request_declined"></span>The case request <i>Persistent WP:IDONTLIKEIT behavior in WP:NCROY discussions</i>, where you were listed as a proposed party, has been declined by the committee. You can find an archived version of the case request <a href="/wiki/Special:PermanentLink/1224467417#Persistent_WP:IDONTLIKEIT_behavior_in_WP:NCROY_discussions" title="Special:PermanentLink/1224467417">here</a>. For the Arbitration Committee, <a href="/wiki/User:Dreamy_Jazz" title="User:Dreamy Jazz">Dreamy <i style="color:#d00"><b>Jazz</b></i></a> <sup><i><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Dreamy_Jazz" title="User talk:Dreamy Jazz">talk to me</a></i> | <i><a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Dreamy_Jazz" title="Special:Contributions/Dreamy Jazz">my contributions</a></i></sup> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Deb#c-Dreamy_Jazz-20240519183300-Arbitration_case_request_declined" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:33, 19 May 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Dreamy_Jazz-20240519183300-Arbitration_case_request_declined"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Dreamy_Jazz-20240519183300-Arbitration_case_request_declined"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Thank_you" data-mw-thread-id="h-Thank_you-20240521164400"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Thank_you-20240521164400"></span>Thank you<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Thank_you-20240521164400"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Deb&action=edit&section=50" title="Edit section: Thank you"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Mandsford-20240521164400-Thank_you"></span>Thank you, Deb (and <a href="/wiki/User:Gildir" title="User:Gildir">User:Gildir</a> as well), for joining the discussion that we recently had with another editor about our views on organization within the month articles. This is essentially the same message that I sent to Gildir as well, which is that my feeling is that we've all tried to abide by the idea that notability is the primary concern, i.e., that some events are more notable than others; and I feel that there's an objective measure of notability, based on the extent to which something is covered in books, newspapers and other media. I also feel that shifting around items with no reasonable explanation (or reverting other people's choices about shifting items in a pattern that can be explained, such as <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:GNG" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:GNG">WP:GNG</a> or <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:N" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:N">WP:N</a> would qualify as disruptive editing, if not worse. I'm interested in hearing your thoughts on how things should be organized.<a href="/wiki/User:Mandsford" title="User:Mandsford">Mandsford</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Deb#c-Mandsford-20240521164400-Thank_you" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:44, 21 May 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Mandsford-20240521164400-Thank_you"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Mandsford-20240521164400-Thank_you"></span></li></ul> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Women_in_Red_June_2024" data-mw-thread-id="h-Women_in_Red_June_2024-20240523070400"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Women_in_Red_June_2024-20240523070400"></span>Women in Red June 2024<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Women_in_Red_June_2024-20240523070400"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Deb&action=edit&section=51" title="Edit section: Women in Red June 2024"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <table style="border: 5px solid #ABCDEF ; background-color: #FFFFFF;"> <tbody><tr> <td rowspan="2" style="vertical-align:middle;"> </td> <td rowspan="2"> </td> <td style="padding: 0; vertical-align: middle; height: 1.1em;"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Lajmmoore-20240523070400-Women_in_Red_June_2024"></span><figure class="mw-halign-right" typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:WiR_Music_2024.png" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7b/WiR_Music_2024.png/125px-WiR_Music_2024.png" decoding="async" width="125" height="111" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7b/WiR_Music_2024.png/188px-WiR_Music_2024.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7b/WiR_Music_2024.png/250px-WiR_Music_2024.png 2x" data-file-width="654" data-file-height="582"/></a><figcaption></figcaption></figure><b><big><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Women_in_Red" title="Wikipedia:WikiProject Women in Red">Women in Red</a></big></b> <big>|</big> <small>June 2024, Volume 10, Issue 6, Numbers 293, 294, 308, 309, 310</small> <p><br/> <b>Online events:</b> </p> <ul><li>New: <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Women_in_Red/Meetup/308" title="Wikipedia:WikiProject Women in Red/Meetup/308">LGBTQ+ women | Wiki Loves Pride</a> <big>|</big> <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Women_in_Red/Meetup/309" title="Wikipedia:WikiProject Women in Red/Meetup/309">Women in Music</a> <big>|</big> <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Women_in_Red/Meetup/310" title="Wikipedia:WikiProject Women in Red/Meetup/310">Alphabet run X, Y & Z</a></li></ul> <ul><li>Continuing: <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Women_in_Red/Meetup/293" title="Wikipedia:WikiProject Women in Red/Meetup/293">#1day1woman</a> <big>|</big> <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Women_in_Red/Meetup/294" title="Wikipedia:WikiProject Women in Red/Meetup/294">Education</a> <small>(year-long initiative)</small></li></ul> <p><b>Announcements from other communities</b> </p> <ul><li><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Women_in_Green/Meetup/6" title="Wikipedia:WikiProject Women in Green/Meetup/6">Women in Green Good Article Edit-a-thon June 2024 - Going Back in Time</a></li> <li>The Wikipedia Library: <a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/The_Wikipedia_Library/1Lib1Ref" class="extiw" title="m:The Wikipedia Library/1Lib1Ref">#1Lib1Ref</a> - May 15th to June 5th</li></ul> <p><b>Tip of the month:</b> </p> <ul><li><b><a href="/wiki/Find_a_Grave" title="Find a Grave">Find a Grave</a></b> is <b>NOT</b> a reliable source (<a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Reliable_sources/Perennial_sources#Find_a_Grave" title="Wikipedia:Reliable sources/Perennial sources">as it is user-generated content</a>). 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data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Siraped3-20240606055600-Cancellation_of_Dr._Kamol_Pansritum"></span>Good afternoon Deb, </p><p>I believe there is a misunderstanding regarding the deletion of the article on Dr. Kamol Pansritum. I am not a Wikipedia expert and have likely made some beginner's mistakes. </p><p>Firstly, I have no professional connection with Dr. Pansritum; I have never even met him. </p><p>Secondly, my intention was absolutely not to advertise. Dr. Pansritum was born in 1959, is nearing retirement, and does not need any publicity. </p><p>I wrote this article because I have a friend who was affected by gender dysphoria (a condition recognized by the WHO). Two years ago, Dr. Pansritum underwent male-to-female gender reassignment surgery. After a suicide attempt, the life of my friend has completely changed. He/she is now happy to be alive. </p><p>I did not know much about the medical field of gender transition, so I spent a year conducting general and specific research on Dr. Pansritum. </p><p>I discovered his numerous medical publications in specialized journals, which have helped his international colleagues advance their surgical techniques. </p><p>Could you kindly explain how to proceed according to Wikipedia regulations? </p><p>Thank you in advance for your assistance, </p><p>Arnold </p><p>PS: I am French and have been living in Thailand for 20 years. I own a primary care clinic in Phuket (Medical Angels), which has no commercial ties with Dr. Pansritum. Although Thailand is a developing country, it excels in certain disciplines and specialties. I am convinced that the world needs to be informed about this. Since long time Thailand is globally recognized for its surgical expertise in gender reassignment. </p><p><a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Siraped3&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Siraped3 (page does not exist)">Siraped3</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Siraped3" title="User talk:Siraped3">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Deb#c-Siraped3-20240606055600-Cancellation_of_Dr._Kamol_Pansritum" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">05:56, 6 June 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Siraped3-20240606055600-Cancellation_of_Dr._Kamol_Pansritum"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Siraped3-20240606055600-Cancellation_of_Dr._Kamol_Pansritum"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Deb-20240606081700-Siraped3-20240606055600"></span>Hi. I understand, but your article was written in rather cringing promotional language, all about how wonderful Dr Pansritum is - which is, at best, your personal view. You should begin by reading the <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Neutral_point_of_view" title="Wikipedia:Neutral point of view">Wikipedia:Neutral point of view</a> policy, which will point you in the direction of other pages you can read to help you re-write the article. To begin with, don't start an article title with "Dr". You won't find any others like that, not for real people. Also, don't write an article in the form of a CV as you did in this case. We won't allow that. Good luck with your rewrite. <a href="/wiki/User:Deb" title="User:Deb">Deb</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Deb#c-Deb-20240606081700-Siraped3-20240606055600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">08:17, 6 June 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Deb-20240606081700-Siraped3-20240606055600"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Deb-20240606081700-Siraped3-20240606055600"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Siraped3-20240607024100-Deb-20240606081700"></span>Thank you, Deb, for your prompt response. I will follow your advice and try to improve with the utmost tenacity. <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Siraped3&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Siraped3 (page does not exist)">Siraped3</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Siraped3" title="User talk:Siraped3">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Deb#c-Siraped3-20240607024100-Deb-20240606081700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">02:41, 7 June 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Siraped3-20240607024100-Deb-20240606081700"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Siraped3-20240607024100-Deb-20240606081700"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Siraped3-20240611061300-Siraped3-20240607024100"></span>Good morning,</dd> <dd>I have written a new article proposal following Deb's wise advice, which seems more in line with Wikipedia's philosophy. I tried to submit it for review, but without success. Could you kindly let me know how to submit this new article to you? Thank you in advance.</dd> <dd>Siraped3</dd> <dd><a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Siraped3&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Siraped3 (page does not exist)">Siraped3</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Siraped3" title="User talk:Siraped3">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Deb#c-Siraped3-20240611061300-Siraped3-20240607024100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">06:13, 11 June 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Siraped3-20240611061300-Siraped3-20240607024100"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Siraped3-20240611061300-Siraped3-20240607024100"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Deb-20240611071600-Siraped3-20240611061300"></span>All you have to do to submit the article for review is to click on the blue panel that says "Submit for review". However, after a quick glance, I can see that it is still written in highly promotional language and contains external links within the text, so it will not pass a review in its present state. You haven't even corrected the title. <a href="/wiki/User:Deb" title="User:Deb">Deb</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Deb#c-Deb-20240611071600-Siraped3-20240611061300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">07:16, 11 June 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Deb-20240611071600-Siraped3-20240611061300"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Deb-20240611071600-Siraped3-20240611061300"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Siraped3-20240611092600-Deb-20240611071600"></span>I cannot correct the title; the application does not allow me to. Should I submit a new article? <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Siraped3&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Siraped3 (page does not exist)">Siraped3</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Siraped3" title="User talk:Siraped3">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Deb#c-Siraped3-20240611092600-Deb-20240611071600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:26, 11 June 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Siraped3-20240611092600-Deb-20240611071600"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Siraped3-20240611092600-Deb-20240611071600"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Siraped3-20240611092900-Siraped3-20240611092600"></span>The modify article is the following: Kamol Pansritum (MD) is a Thai surgeon specializing in gender affirming surgery (GRS and FFS). Born on November 11, 1959, in Nong Khai, Thailand, he is renowned for his expertise in this field.</dd> <dd>Kamol Pansritum earned his medical degree from Khonkaen University of Medicine before completing his training in general surgery at Chulalongkorn University Medical School in Bangkok, he spent nine years practicing at Royal Thai Army hospital (Ananda Mahidol). With several decades of experience, he has become a pioneer in gender reassignment surgery, developing advanced techniques and successfully performing complex procedures.</dd> <dd>He has published numerous articles in reputable medical journals,()[1],()[2],()[3],()[4],()[5],()[6],()[7],()[8]. and has presented at international conferences on plastic and reconstructive surgery, ()[9],()[10],()[11],()[12],()[13],()[14],()[15],()[16],()[17],()[18],()[19]. As an educator, he also trains the next generation of surgeons specializing in this field. His techno medical approaches above are applied internationally by many fellow surgeons.</dd> <dd>Kamol Pansritum founded the Kamol Hospital, where he performs thousands of gender reassignment surgeries and other related procedures. <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Siraped3&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Siraped3 (page does not exist)">Siraped3</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Siraped3" title="User talk:Siraped3">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Deb#c-Siraped3-20240611092900-Siraped3-20240611092600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:29, 11 June 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Siraped3-20240611092900-Siraped3-20240611092600"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Siraped3-20240611092900-Siraped3-20240611092600"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Deb-20240611093200-Siraped3-20240611092900"></span>The word "renowned" has to come out, for a start, and all the stuff about him being a "pioneer" unless you can back that up as an independent statement. Also "With several decades of experience" belongs in a CV, not in a Wikipedia article. <a href="/wiki/User:Deb" title="User:Deb">Deb</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Deb#c-Deb-20240611093200-Siraped3-20240611092900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:32, 11 June 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Deb-20240611093200-Siraped3-20240611092900"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Deb-20240611093200-Siraped3-20240611092900"></span></dd></dl></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Deb-20240611093000-Siraped3-20240611092600"></span>It can be moved. Why did you recreate it at the same title as before? <a href="/wiki/User:Deb" title="User:Deb">Deb</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Deb#c-Deb-20240611093000-Siraped3-20240611092600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:30, 11 June 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Deb-20240611093000-Siraped3-20240611092600"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Deb-20240611093000-Siraped3-20240611092600"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Utpal_Kumar_Singh" data-mw-thread-id="h-Utpal_Kumar_Singh-20240617141400"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Utpal_Kumar_Singh-20240617141400"></span><a href="/wiki/Utpal_Kumar_Singh" title="Utpal Kumar Singh">Utpal Kumar Singh</a><span data-mw-comment-end="h-Utpal_Kumar_Singh-20240617141400"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Deb&action=edit&section=56" title="Edit section: Utpal Kumar Singh"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Aviram7-20240617141400-Utpal_Kumar_Singh"></span>Hey! Deb, Hi there, Please help me, I don't known but How I added a bite of <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:CV" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:CV">Copyright</a> content on my article during creation and I don't access to the above link but I removed <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:CV" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:CV">Copyright</a> content but currently need to copyvio-revdeletion as per R1 creteria, I'm aware about the <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:CV" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:CV">WP:CV</a> policies but In future, If create article then I bear in my mind my creation is not in copyvio. Happy editing --- <i><span style="background:#FF7722;border:1px solid #FE632A;border-radius:18px;padding:4px"><a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Aviram7&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Aviram7 (page does not exist)"><span style="color:#000000">ᗩvírαm7</span></a> • <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Aviram7" class="mw-redirect" title="User talk:Aviram7"><span style="color:#000000">(@píng mє-tαlk mє)</span></a></span></i> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Deb#c-Aviram7-20240617141400-Utpal_Kumar_Singh" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:14, 17 June 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Aviram7-20240617141400-Utpal_Kumar_Singh"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Aviram7-20240617141400-Utpal_Kumar_Singh"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Deb-20240617141800-Aviram7-20240617141400"></span>I think what you're asking is how you came to include copyrighted content in your article, and I don't know the answer to that. However, the article in its present state isn't up to standard and needs to be returned to draft so you can get help from other contributors. <a href="/wiki/User:Deb" title="User:Deb">Deb</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Deb#c-Deb-20240617141800-Aviram7-20240617141400" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:18, 17 June 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Deb-20240617141800-Aviram7-20240617141400"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Deb-20240617141800-Aviram7-20240617141400"></span></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Aviram7-20240617144300-Deb-20240617141800"></span>Deb,thanks for your reply, but I am talking about <i>copyvio-revdel</i> here, can you hide some copyvio old revisions from this article, but I cannot move this article back to draft namespace as per <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:DRAFTIFY" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:DRAFTIFY">WP:DRAFTIFY</a>, but I will try to improve this article by editing by other experienced editors.Happy editing --- <i><span style="background:#FF7722;border:1px solid #FE632A;border-radius:18px;padding:4px"><a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Aviram7&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Aviram7 (page does not exist)"><span style="color:#000000">ᗩvírαm7</span></a> • <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Aviram7" class="mw-redirect" title="User talk:Aviram7"><span style="color:#000000">(@píng mє-tαlk mє)</span></a></span></i> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Deb#c-Aviram7-20240617144300-Deb-20240617141800" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:43, 17 June 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Aviram7-20240617144300-Deb-20240617141800"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Aviram7-20240617144300-Deb-20240617141800"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Deb-20240617150100-Aviram7-20240617144300"></span>Certainly it's possible to hide old revisions. Why can't you move it back to draft? <a href="/wiki/User:Deb" title="User:Deb">Deb</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Deb#c-Deb-20240617150100-Aviram7-20240617144300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:01, 17 June 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Deb-20240617150100-Aviram7-20240617144300"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Deb-20240617150100-Aviram7-20240617144300"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Khot,_Khyber_Pakhtunkhwa" data-mw-thread-id="h-Khot,_Khyber_Pakhtunkhwa-20240617151800"><span id="Khot.2C_Khyber_Pakhtunkhwa"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Khot,_Khyber_Pakhtunkhwa-20240617151800"></span>Khot, Khyber Pakhtunkhwa<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Khot,_Khyber_Pakhtunkhwa-20240617151800"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Deb&action=edit&section=57" title="Edit section: Khot, Khyber Pakhtunkhwa"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Wikishovel-20240617151800-Khot,_Khyber_Pakhtunkhwa"></span>Hello, you deleted <a href="/wiki/Khot,_Khyber_Pakhtunkhwa" class="mw-redirect" title="Khot, Khyber Pakhtunkhwa">Khot, Khyber Pakhtunkhwa</a> last October as part of sorting out a sockpuppetry page move mess by sockpuppeteer <a href="/wiki/User:Najaf_ali_bhayo" title="User:Najaf ali bhayo">User:Najaf ali bhayo</a>. Looks like it then got recreated, then moved by <a href="/wiki/User:Ivanvector" title="User:Ivanvector">User:Ivanvector</a> and EC protected, yet a confirmed-only new SPA has just moved commenced editing it, along with <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Pineen" title="Special:Contributions/Pineen">similar page moves to last time</a>. Could you please take a look again? Thanks, <a href="/wiki/User:Wikishovel" title="User:Wikishovel">Wikishovel</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Wikishovel" title="User talk:Wikishovel">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Deb#c-Wikishovel-20240617151800-Khot,_Khyber_Pakhtunkhwa" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:18, 17 June 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Wikishovel-20240617151800-Khot,_Khyber_Pakhtunkhwa"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Wikishovel-20240617151800-Khot,_Khyber_Pakhtunkhwa"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Deb-20240617153200-Wikishovel-20240617151800"></span>Okay, I've changed the protection. Let's see if that helps. <a href="/wiki/User:Deb" title="User:Deb">Deb</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Deb#c-Deb-20240617153200-Wikishovel-20240617151800" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:32, 17 June 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Deb-20240617153200-Wikishovel-20240617151800"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Deb-20240617153200-Wikishovel-20240617151800"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Wikishovel-20240617153400-Deb-20240617153200"></span>Thanks, but how was a new autoconfirmed account able to edit an EC-protected article? <a href="/wiki/User:Wikishovel" title="User:Wikishovel">Wikishovel</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Wikishovel" title="User talk:Wikishovel">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Deb#c-Wikishovel-20240617153400-Deb-20240617153200" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:34, 17 June 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Wikishovel-20240617153400-Deb-20240617153200"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Wikishovel-20240617153400-Deb-20240617153200"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Deb-20240617154300-Wikishovel-20240617153400"></span>I don't know the answer to that one. Maybe ask at the Village Pump. <a href="/wiki/User:Deb" title="User:Deb">Deb</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Deb#c-Deb-20240617154300-Wikishovel-20240617153400" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:43, 17 June 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Deb-20240617154300-Wikishovel-20240617153400"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Deb-20240617154300-Wikishovel-20240617153400"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Ivanvector-20240617171900-Deb-20240617154300"></span>That <i>is</i> a good question. Seems like all the disruptive repetitive page moves also messed up the protection settings somehow, but I can't follow the logs to be sure. <a href="/wiki/User:Ivanvector" title="User:Ivanvector">Ivanvector</a> (<sup><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Ivanvector" title="User talk:Ivanvector">Talk</a></sup>/<sub><a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Ivanvector" title="Special:Contributions/Ivanvector">Edits</a></sub>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Deb#c-Ivanvector-20240617171900-Deb-20240617154300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:19, 17 June 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Ivanvector-20240617171900-Deb-20240617154300"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Ivanvector-20240617171900-Deb-20240617154300"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="CSD_G6_for_Sitaare_Zameen_Par_(film)" data-mw-thread-id="h-CSD_G6_for_Sitaare_Zameen_Par_(film)-20240617155500"><span id="CSD_G6_for_Sitaare_Zameen_Par_.28film.29"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-CSD_G6_for_Sitaare_Zameen_Par_(film)-20240617155500"></span>CSD G6 for <a href="/wiki/Sitaare_Zameen_Par_(film)" title="Sitaare Zameen Par (film)">Sitaare Zameen Par (film)</a><span data-mw-comment-end="h-CSD_G6_for_Sitaare_Zameen_Par_(film)-20240617155500"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Deb&action=edit&section=58" title="Edit section: CSD G6 for Sitaare Zameen Par (film)"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-C1K98V-20240617155500-CSD_G6_for_Sitaare_Zameen_Par_(film)"></span>Hello <a href="/wiki/User:Deb" title="User:Deb">User:Deb</a>, I hope you're doing well. Can you delete the <a href="/wiki/Sitaare_Zameen_Par_(film)" title="Sitaare Zameen Par (film)">Sitaare Zameen Par (film)</a> redirect so that I can move <a href="/wiki/Sitaare_Zameen_Par_(2024_film)" class="mw-redirect" title="Sitaare Zameen Par (2024 film)">Sitaare Zameen Par (2024 film)</a>. Thanks for your consideration.<span id="C1K98V:1718639720373:User_talkFTTCLNDeb" class="FTTCmt"> — <a href="/wiki/User:C1K98V" title="User:C1K98V"><b style="color:#FF0000"><i>C1K98V</i></b></a> <sup>(<a href="/wiki/User_talk:C1K98V" title="User talk:C1K98V">💬</a> <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/C1K98V" title="Special:Contributions/C1K98V">✒️</a> <a href="/wiki/Special:ListFiles/C1K98V" title="Special:ListFiles/C1K98V">📂</a>)</sup> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Deb#c-C1K98V-20240617155500-CSD_G6_for_Sitaare_Zameen_Par_(film)" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:55, 17 June 2024 (UTC)</a></span><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-C1K98V-20240617155500-CSD_G6_for_Sitaare_Zameen_Par_(film)"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-C1K98V-20240617155500-CSD_G6_for_Sitaare_Zameen_Par_(film)"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="A_barnstar_for_you!_2" data-mw-thread-id="h-A_barnstar_for_you!_2-20240621130600"><span id="A_barnstar_for_you.21_2"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-A_barnstar_for_you!_2-20240621130600"></span>A barnstar for you!<span data-mw-comment-end="h-A_barnstar_for_you!_2-20240621130600"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Deb&action=edit&section=59" title="Edit section: A barnstar for you!"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <table style="background-color: #fdffe7; border: 1px solid #fceb92;"> <tbody><tr> <td rowspan="2" style="vertical-align: middle; padding: 5px;"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Vanderwaalforces-20240621130600-A_barnstar_for_you!_2"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Administrator_Barnstar_Hires.png" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/9a/Administrator_Barnstar_Hires.png/100px-Administrator_Barnstar_Hires.png" decoding="async" width="100" height="95" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/9a/Administrator_Barnstar_Hires.png/150px-Administrator_Barnstar_Hires.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/9a/Administrator_Barnstar_Hires.png/200px-Administrator_Barnstar_Hires.png 2x" data-file-width="2000" data-file-height="1900"/></a></span> </td> <td style="font-size: x-large; padding: 3px 3px 0 3px; height: 1.5em;"><b>The Admin's Barnstar</b> </td></tr> <tr> <td style="vertical-align: middle; padding: 3px;">Hi Deb, it’s a great thing for Wikipedia to have you as an administrator. We can’t pay you for all you do :) You’re also a great and important asset here, and your work both as an editor and administrator is very much noticed and appreciated. Thanks for attending to speedies, AIV and UAA, amongst others. I hope you’re also doing great in health (and wealth :)). Happy administrating and my regards, <a href="/wiki/User:Vanderwaalforces" title="User:Vanderwaalforces">Vanderwaalforces</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Vanderwaalforces" title="User talk:Vanderwaalforces">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Deb#c-Vanderwaalforces-20240621130600-A_barnstar_for_you!_2" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:06, 21 June 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Vanderwaalforces-20240621130600-A_barnstar_for_you!_2"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Vanderwaalforces-20240621130600-A_barnstar_for_you!_2"></span> </td></tr></tbody></table> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Deletion_of_Claude-3.5" data-mw-thread-id="h-Deletion_of_Claude-3.5-20240622043600"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Deletion_of_Claude-3.5-20240622043600"></span>Deletion of <a href="/w/index.php?title=Claude-3.5&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Claude-3.5 (page does not exist)">Claude-3.5</a><span data-mw-comment-end="h-Deletion_of_Claude-3.5-20240622043600"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Deb&action=edit&section=60" title="Edit section: Deletion of Claude-3.5"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Mr_vili-20240622043600-Deletion_of_Claude-3.5"></span>Hey Deb, I noticed you deleted Claude-3.5 </p><p>I believe this AI model deserves encyclopediac coverage as it's the world's currently most advanced large language model. I can understand if the article was written in a promotional tone, however I do not believe that it falls under G11. The article was still a work in progress. </p><p>Can this be restored, either as a draft or mainspace so I can continue working on it, and adding additional content and improving the tone. <span style="background:#F84;padding:3px;border-radius:2px"><a href="/wiki/User:Mr_vili" title="User:Mr vili"><span style="color:#FFF">Mr Vili</span></a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Mr_vili" title="User talk:Mr vili"><span style="background:#FFF;padding:0 4px;color:#F84;border-radius: 2px;">talk</span></a></span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Deb#c-Mr_vili-20240622043600-Deletion_of_Claude-3.5" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">04:36, 22 June 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Mr_vili-20240622043600-Deletion_of_Claude-3.5"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Mr_vili-20240622043600-Deletion_of_Claude-3.5"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Deb-20240622072100-Mr_vili-20240622043600"></span>Hi. Please feel free to recreate the article in draft. That's the place for work in progress. <a href="/wiki/User:Deb" title="User:Deb">Deb</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Deb#c-Deb-20240622072100-Mr_vili-20240622043600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">07:21, 22 June 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Deb-20240622072100-Mr_vili-20240622043600"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Deb-20240622072100-Mr_vili-20240622043600"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Women_in_Red_July_2024" data-mw-thread-id="h-Women_in_Red_July_2024-20240630142700"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Women_in_Red_July_2024-20240630142700"></span>Women in Red July 2024<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Women_in_Red_July_2024-20240630142700"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Deb&action=edit&section=61" title="Edit section: Women in Red July 2024"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <table style="border: 5px solid #ABCDEF ; background-color: #FFFFFF;"> <tbody><tr> <td rowspan="2" style="vertical-align:middle;"> </td> <td rowspan="2"> </td> <td style="padding: 0; vertical-align: middle; height: 1.1em;"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Lajmmoore-20240630142700-Women_in_Red_July_2024"></span><figure class="mw-halign-right" typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:WiR_Translation_Contest_2022_icon.png" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/96/WiR_Translation_Contest_2022_icon.png/125px-WiR_Translation_Contest_2022_icon.png" decoding="async" width="125" height="125" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/96/WiR_Translation_Contest_2022_icon.png/188px-WiR_Translation_Contest_2022_icon.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/96/WiR_Translation_Contest_2022_icon.png/250px-WiR_Translation_Contest_2022_icon.png 2x" data-file-width="624" data-file-height="624"/></a><figcaption></figcaption></figure><b><big><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Women_in_Red" title="Wikipedia:WikiProject Women in Red">Women in Red</a></big></b> <big>|</big> <small>July 2024, Volume 10, Issue 7, Numbers 293, 294, 311, 312, 313</small> <p><br/> <b>Online events:</b> </p> <ul><li>New: <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Women_in_Red/Meetup/311" title="Wikipedia:WikiProject Women in Red/Meetup/311">Translation contest 2024</a> <big>|</big> <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Women_in_Red/Meetup/312" title="Wikipedia:WikiProject Women in Red/Meetup/312">Science Fiction and Fantasy</a> <big>|</big> <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Women_in_Red/Meetup/313" title="Wikipedia:WikiProject Women in Red/Meetup/313">Women in Sports</a></li></ul> <ul><li>Continuing: <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Women_in_Red/Meetup/293" title="Wikipedia:WikiProject Women in Red/Meetup/293">#1day1woman</a> <big>|</big> <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Women_in_Red/Meetup/294" title="Wikipedia:WikiProject Women in Red/Meetup/294">Education</a> <small>(year-long initiative)</small></li></ul> <p><b>Announcements from other communities</b> </p> <ul><li><a class="external text" href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wiki_Loves_Sport_2024">Wiki Loves Sport 2024</a> 22 July - 22 September</li></ul> <p><b>Tip of the month:</b> </p> <ul><li><i>A foreign language biography does not guarantee notability for English Wikipedia.<br/> Check the <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Notability_(people)" title="Wikipedia:Notability (people)">guidelines</a> before you start.</i></li></ul> <p><b>Other ways to participate:</b> </p> <ul><li><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Women_in_Red/New_members" title="Wikipedia:WikiProject Women in Red/New members">Become a member</a>. 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So, could you please tell me what was the main reason for the removing and how could it be improved? <a href="/wiki/User:Yulateli" class="mw-redirect" title="User:Yulateli">Yulateli</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Yulateli" title="User talk:Yulateli">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Deb#c-Yulateli-20240703151300-Deleted_the_CloudMounter_page" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:13, 3 July 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Yulateli-20240703151300-Deleted_the_CloudMounter_page"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Yulateli-20240703151300-Deleted_the_CloudMounter_page"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Deb-20240704125400-Yulateli-20240703151300"></span>Check out the reason given here: <a class="external free" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CloudMounter">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CloudMounter</a></dd> <dd>If you want to rewrite the article, please do so in neutral language, conforming to the <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:NPOV" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:NPOV">neutral point of view</a> policy. <a href="/wiki/User:Deb" title="User:Deb">Deb</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Deb#c-Deb-20240704125400-Yulateli-20240703151300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:54, 4 July 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Deb-20240704125400-Yulateli-20240703151300"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span 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You protected them indefinitely half a decade ago.<a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/102.158.177.209" title="Special:Contributions/102.158.177.209">102.158.177.209</a> (<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:102.158.177.209&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:102.158.177.209 (page does not exist)">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Deb#c-102.158.177.209-20240707034300-february_15_&_february_11" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">03:43, 7 July 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-102.158.177.209-20240707034300-february_15_&_february_11"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-102.158.177.209-20240707034300-february_15_&_february_11"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Deb-20240707083200-102.158.177.209-20240707034300"></span>Protection duly amended. <a href="/wiki/User:Deb" title="User:Deb">Deb</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Deb#c-Deb-20240707083200-102.158.177.209-20240707034300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">08:32, 7 July 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Deb-20240707083200-102.158.177.209-20240707034300"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Deb-20240707083200-102.158.177.209-20240707034300"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-197.2.202.104-20240707181700-Deb-20240707083200"></span>Why did you downgrade move-protection to autoconfirmed access? Also, I can still see it <i>indefinite edit-protected</i>.<a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/197.2.202.104" title="Special:Contributions/197.2.202.104">197.2.202.104</a> (<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:197.2.202.104&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:197.2.202.104 (page does not exist)">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Deb#c-197.2.202.104-20240707181700-Deb-20240707083200" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:17, 7 July 2024 (UTC)</a><small>I forgot to sign my comment. Apologies.</small><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-197.2.202.104-20240707181700-Deb-20240707083200"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-197.2.202.104-20240707181700-Deb-20240707083200"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Deb-20240707185300-197.2.202.104-20240707181700"></span>Can't reply unless you log in. <a href="/wiki/User:Deb" title="User:Deb">Deb</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Deb#c-Deb-20240707185300-197.2.202.104-20240707181700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:53, 7 July 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Deb-20240707185300-197.2.202.104-20240707181700"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Deb-20240707185300-197.2.202.104-20240707181700"></span></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Deb-20240707190100-197.2.202.104-20240707181700"></span>Okay, you pointed out an error on the move protection, which I've now corrected. I've downgraded the editing protection whilst still minimising the risk of unreferenced content being introduced, which is a major problem with many of the date articles. As soon as you're autoconfirmed, you'll be able to edit. <a href="/wiki/User:Deb" title="User:Deb">Deb</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Deb#c-Deb-20240707190100-197.2.202.104-20240707181700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:01, 7 July 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Deb-20240707190100-197.2.202.104-20240707181700"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Deb-20240707190100-197.2.202.104-20240707181700"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-197.2.202.104-20240707191100-Deb-20240707190100"></span>I do not have concerns with your protection alteration. My concern now is the first one is indefinite edit-protected, while the latter is time-limited. Can you set a time limit instead of indefinite, while keeping both PCs indefinite?<a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/197.2.202.104" title="Special:Contributions/197.2.202.104">197.2.202.104</a> (<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:197.2.202.104&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:197.2.202.104 (page does not exist)">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Deb#c-197.2.202.104-20240707191100-Deb-20240707190100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:11, 7 July 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-197.2.202.104-20240707191100-Deb-20240707190100"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-197.2.202.104-20240707191100-Deb-20240707190100"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Deb-20240708074300-197.2.202.104-20240707191100"></span>I could, but why? <a href="/wiki/User:Deb" title="User:Deb">Deb</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Deb#c-Deb-20240708074300-197.2.202.104-20240707191100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">07:43, 8 July 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Deb-20240708074300-197.2.202.104-20240707191100"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Deb-20240708074300-197.2.202.104-20240707191100"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Robert_McClenon-20240708125000-Deb-20240708074300"></span>I can see one reason why Deb is wasting her time trying to reply to the annoying requests of this logged-out editor, and that is that their IP address has shifted once, which illustrates one reason why logged-out editors should be ignored. It makes very little difference whether they have an account and are logged out, or do not have an account and should create an account. My advice to Deb is to ignore the logged-out editor, but if they persist in asking useless questions, to semi-protect her talk page for three days. <a href="/wiki/User:Robert_McClenon" title="User:Robert McClenon">Robert McClenon</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Robert_McClenon" title="User talk:Robert McClenon">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Deb#c-Robert_McClenon-20240708125000-Deb-20240708074300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:50, 8 July 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Robert_McClenon-20240708125000-Deb-20240708074300"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Robert_McClenon-20240708125000-Deb-20240708074300"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Deb-20240708125800-Robert_McClenon-20240708125000"></span>Thanks for the advice. <a href="/wiki/User:Deb" title="User:Deb">Deb</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Deb#c-Deb-20240708125800-Robert_McClenon-20240708125000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:58, 8 July 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Deb-20240708125800-Robert_McClenon-20240708125000"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Deb-20240708125800-Robert_McClenon-20240708125000"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Page_patrol" data-mw-thread-id="h-Page_patrol-20240711144700"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Page_patrol-20240711144700"></span>Page patrol<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Page_patrol-20240711144700"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Deb&action=edit&section=65" title="Edit section: Page patrol"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Mandsford-20240711144700-Page_patrol"></span>Hello, Deb. If you make any changes that are reverted without an explanation-- or at least without an adequate explanation-- please let me know, and I'll be happy to step in. I'm getting ready to go over the 1960s month articles and begin arranging the sequence of events in individual sections, based on the <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:N" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:N">WP:N</a>, an objective standard based upon the amount of mention of such events in books and newspaper accounts as the measure of notability of an event. I don't intend to delete any additions that are cited to reliable and verifiable sources, but on any rearrangements that have been done without an edit summary to explain the reason for the repositioning, I will feel free to make fixes based on a notability standard. If you know any other editors who have faced the same problem, please alert them. Thanks.<a href="/wiki/User:Mandsford" title="User:Mandsford">Mandsford</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Deb#c-Mandsford-20240711144700-Page_patrol" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:47, 11 July 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Mandsford-20240711144700-Page_patrol"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Mandsford-20240711144700-Page_patrol"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Deb-20240711145600-Mandsford-20240711144700"></span>Okay, thanks, I'll try and keep an eye on it. I know that in the past - before it was decided that everything in lists has to be referenced - I probably introduced some problem entries myself. Over time, perhaps we can sort them out. <a href="/wiki/User:Deb" title="User:Deb">Deb</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Deb#c-Deb-20240711145600-Mandsford-20240711144700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:56, 11 July 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Deb-20240711145600-Mandsford-20240711144700"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Deb-20240711145600-Mandsford-20240711144700"></span></dd></dl></li></ul> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Labib_Iqbaal-20240716073200-Page_patrol"></span>Bhai tu srif review karya hai ya apna content bhe banata hai? <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Labib_Iqbaal&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Labib Iqbaal (page does not exist)">Labib Iqbaal</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Labib_Iqbaal" title="User talk:Labib Iqbaal">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Deb#c-Labib_Iqbaal-20240716073200-Page_patrol" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">07:32, 16 July 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Labib_Iqbaal-20240716073200-Page_patrol"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Labib_Iqbaal-20240716073200-Page_patrol"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Deb-20240716073500-Labib_Iqbaal-20240716073200"></span>Try looking. <a href="/wiki/User:Deb" title="User:Deb">Deb</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Deb#c-Deb-20240716073500-Labib_Iqbaal-20240716073200" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">07:35, 16 July 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Deb-20240716073500-Labib_Iqbaal-20240716073200"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Deb-20240716073500-Labib_Iqbaal-20240716073200"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Labib_Iqbaal-20240716074200-Deb-20240716073500"></span>Bhai mere dhore itna tam na hai <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Labib_Iqbaal&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Labib Iqbaal (page does not exist)">Labib Iqbaal</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Labib_Iqbaal" title="User talk:Labib Iqbaal">talk</a>) <a 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Anyone, including you, is welcome to comment on this redirect at <b><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Redirects_for_discussion/Log/2024_July_17#Not_In_My_Name_(_Protest_In_India)" title="Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2024 July 17">Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2024 July 17 § Not In My Name ( Protest In India)</a></b> until a consensus is reached. <a href="/wiki/User:Nickps" class="mw-redirect" title="User:Nickps">Nickps</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Nickps" title="User talk:Nickps">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Deb#c-Nickps-20240717212900-"Not_In_My_Name_(_Protest_In_India)"_listed_at_Redirects_for_discussion" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:29, 17 July 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Nickps-20240717212900-"Not_In_My_Name_(_Protest_In_India)"_listed_at_Redirects_for_discussion"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Nickps-20240717212900-"Not_In_My_Name_(_Protest_In_India)"_listed_at_Redirects_for_discussion"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Socking" data-mw-thread-id="h-Socking-20240717215800"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Socking-20240717215800"></span>Socking<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Socking-20240717215800"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Deb&action=edit&section=67" title="Edit section: Socking"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Drm310-20240717215800-Socking"></span>Hi Deb. I looked around and found that the user <span class="plainlinks"><a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:JessicaMIchault">JessicaMIchault</a></span> probably also had two sock accounts (<span class="plainlinks"><a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Mrs._Jessica_Michault">Mrs. Jessica Michault</a></span>, <span class="plainlinks"><a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Jessica_at_Odda">Jessica at Odda</a></span>). Both have been stale for years, so I doubt there's any use in taking it to SPI. Still, adding that to the promotional edits of the master account, is it enough to tip the scale to a block? --<a href="/wiki/User:Drm310" title="User:Drm310">Drm310</a> <span style="color:red">🍁</span> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Drm310" title="User talk:Drm310">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Deb#c-Drm310-20240717215800-Socking" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:58, 17 July 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Drm310-20240717215800-Socking"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Drm310-20240717215800-Socking"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Deb-20240718072700-Drm310-20240717215800"></span>Probably. I'll look into it later. <a href="/wiki/User:Deb" title="User:Deb">Deb</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Deb#c-Deb-20240718072700-Drm310-20240717215800" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">07:27, 18 July 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Deb-20240718072700-Drm310-20240717215800"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Deb-20240718072700-Drm310-20240717215800"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Premium_Guard_Inc." data-mw-thread-id="h-Premium_Guard_Inc.-20240718180800"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Premium_Guard_Inc.-20240718180800"></span>Premium Guard Inc.<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Premium_Guard_Inc.-20240718180800"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Deb&action=edit&section=68" title="Edit section: Premium Guard Inc."><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Robert_McClenon-20240718180800-Premium_Guard_Inc."></span>Did you think it was unambiguous advertising, with no encyclopedic value? Maybe the next time I come across something like it, I may tag it for <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:G11" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:G11">G11</a> rather than spending time checking that the sources are press releases. </p><p>What is a Ricardian revisionist? Does that have to do with <a href="/wiki/Richard_III_of_England" title="Richard III of England">Richard III of England</a> rather than <a href="/wiki/David_Ricardo" title="David Ricardo">David Ricardo</a>? Is that someone who defends the reputation of that king? <a href="/wiki/User:Robert_McClenon" title="User:Robert McClenon">Robert McClenon</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Robert_McClenon" title="User talk:Robert McClenon">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Deb#c-Robert_McClenon-20240718180800-Premium_Guard_Inc." class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:08, 18 July 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Robert_McClenon-20240718180800-Premium_Guard_Inc."><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Robert_McClenon-20240718180800-Premium_Guard_Inc."></span> </p><p><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Deb-20240719122900-Premium_Guard_Inc."></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:Robert_McClenon" title="User:Robert McClenon">Robert McClenon</a>:</span> I think the main problem with the article is that there's a fairly obvious undeclared COI even if the wording of the article is debatable. The creator first drafted it in his sandbox (where there is still a version) and then moved it straight to mainspace without submitting for review (which I believe it would have failed). I know people often argue the toss about whether obvious promotional intent is a reliable indicator of promotional content, and I do get that. <a href="/wiki/User:Deb" title="User:Deb">Deb</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Deb#c-Deb-20240719122900-Premium_Guard_Inc." class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:29, 19 July 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Deb-20240719122900-Premium_Guard_Inc."><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Deb-20240719122900-Premium_Guard_Inc."></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Page_Patrol,_part_II" data-mw-thread-id="h-Page_Patrol,_part_II-20240719090500"><span id="Page_Patrol.2C_part_II"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Page_Patrol,_part_II-20240719090500"></span>Page Patrol, part II<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Page_Patrol,_part_II-20240719090500"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Deb&action=edit&section=69" title="Edit section: Page Patrol, part II"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Arcadia16-20240719090500-Page_Patrol,_part_II"></span>Hello-- I did get a response from one user, and wanted to share that along with my answer. </p> <dl><dd><dl><dd>Hello <a href="/wiki/User:Mandsford" title="User:Mandsford">Mandsford</a>, we've discussed about your plan to revert my edits I did between March and May of this year and I need to know this. So about the "which article is "notable" and which article isn't" talk back in late May, I wanna know why in one of your changes on the <a href="/wiki/June_1963#June_17,_1963" title="June 1963">June 17, 1963</a> section you did not put the infamous Vietnam riots in the top? Wouldn't that be more notable? I fail to see how that is not notable then the articles on that section. You probably know what I'm talking about since I just saw your edits in <a href="/wiki/June_1963" title="June 1963">June 1963</a>. Also, I wanna know more about why my edits aren't allowed for the 1960s wiki pages. Are my edits breaking any rules here or is it just because you don't like the way I changed all the stuff in order of how my sentences they have? I am genuinely curious about why it is a big deal. <a href="/wiki/User:Arcadia16" title="User:Arcadia16">Arcadia</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Arcadia16" title="User talk:Arcadia16">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Deb#c-Arcadia16-20240719090500-Page_Patrol,_part_II" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:05, 19 July 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Arcadia16-20240719090500-Page_Patrol,_part_II"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Arcadia16-20240719090500-Page_Patrol,_part_II"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Mandsford-20240719155400-Page_Patrol,_part_II"></span>I replied to him or her as follows: </p> <dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd>Hello, Arcadia16. I appreciate your statement. Please feel free to put put the Vietnam riots entry on top of the June 17 section if you believe that that event is more notable. Wikipedia is the encyclopedia that anyone can edit, and perhaps the Vietnam riots were the more notable even of the day. In addition, additional events that you've discovered through your own research are welcome anytime. However, I've seen from your talk page that you seem to believe that everyone else who has done the work of researching and writing has created "a jumbled mess" and that you intend to re-arrange items to satisfy your criteria that you have "changed all the stuff in order of how many sentences they have." Notwithstanding that this number-of-sentences isn't the way that almanacs or encyclopedias are usually organized, or that by that measure a person could move an event upward or downward by adding or deleting sentences, there is a policy summarized in <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Notability_(events)" title="Wikipedia:Notability (events)">Wikipedia:Notability (events)</a>, in particular the section about Inclusion criteria (which can be found at <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Notability_(events)#Inclusion_criteria" title="Wikipedia:Notability (events)">Wikipedia:Notability (events)#Inclusion criteria</a>. The ranking in the criteria includes "enduring historical significance" and "widespread (national or international) impact" or having been "widely covered in diverse sources", or having the notability of being re-analyzed afterward. You asked whether your edits are breaking any rules, and I would note that "changing all the stuff" in an arbitrary manner would likely be considered disruptive editing. You aren't the first editor to attempt a mission of wanting to change everything, though attempting to change all 120 of the 1960s articles is a wider ambition than we usually see. Rather than looking at the other editors as unworthy opponents, joining us in collectively building and adding to a project. We've worked hard on building these articles, and we invite you to add to them, as well as to add to the project by addressing those that have not been covered (an example cited before would be <a href="/wiki/January_1957" class="mw-redirect" title="January 1957">January 1957</a>, which is simply a redirect to 1957. You can make a lot of great contributions to Wikipedia. However, attempting a massive overhaul of what others have done will receive a response.<a href="/wiki/User:Mandsford" title="User:Mandsford">Mandsford</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Deb#c-Mandsford-20240719155400-Page_Patrol,_part_II" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:54, 19 July 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Mandsford-20240719155400-Page_Patrol,_part_II"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Mandsford-20240719155400-Page_Patrol,_part_II"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Mandsford-20240719155400-Page_Patrol,_part_II-1"></span>Sorry for the long explanation; at this point, I think it's time to patrol articles again.<a href="/wiki/User:Mandsford" title="User:Mandsford">Mandsford</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Deb#c-Mandsford-20240719155400-Page_Patrol,_part_II-1" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:54, 19 July 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Mandsford-20240719155400-Page_Patrol,_part_II-1"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Mandsford-20240719155400-Page_Patrol,_part_II-1"></span> </p><p><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Mandsford-20240722154700-Page_Patrol,_part_II"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:Mandsford" title="User:Mandsford">Mandsford</a> and <a href="/wiki/User:Arcadia16" title="User:Arcadia16">Arcadia16</a>:</span> I feel it's very important not to make these pages US-centric. I'm not sure on what basis an event that contributed to the Vietnam War should be considered more significant than anything else that happened that day. In fact, since the build-up to that war and the war itself went on for so many years, and most people around the world have never heard about most of the events that took place during it (including these riots), I would argue that most of the individual events relating to a war are <i>less</i> significant than other major events that occurred on the same date. As a matter of fact, in this particular case I would have put ASCII at the top, because of its global impact, which comes from its influence on the development of information technology, not from the fact that it originated from the US. I haven't stopped patrolling these articles; that said, I wouldn't change the order of events on a specific day unless I think that there is an obvious tendency to favour one event over others which are equally or even more significant. <a href="/wiki/User:Deb" title="User:Deb">Deb</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) </p> <dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd>I agree with you on ASCII, and had placed ASCII it as the lead in my modifications, and the re-introduction of poison gas in warfare as a lead story. I'm not sure what the significance is of some of the news from the U.S. space program; even Gildir, who added much of the NASA entries, didn't intend for routine items about the Gemini program to be a lead story of the day. However, I hope that the point has been made to others that in writing about history, Wikipedia policy remains for the more notable, or historic items, to take priority rather than re-arrangements without regard to significance.<a href="/wiki/User:Mandsford" title="User:Mandsford">Mandsford</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Deb#c-Mandsford-20240722154700-Page_Patrol,_part_II" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:47, 22 July 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Mandsford-20240722154700-Page_Patrol,_part_II"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Mandsford-20240722154700-Page_Patrol,_part_II"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Birth_and_death_lists" data-mw-thread-id="h-Birth_and_death_lists-20240723142900"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Birth_and_death_lists-20240723142900"></span>Birth and death lists<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Birth_and_death_lists-20240723142900"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Deb&action=edit&section=70" title="Edit section: Birth and death lists"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-QuicoleJR-20240723142900-Birth_and_death_lists"></span>I have readded the entry with a source, but I would like to note that barely any of the existing entries have sources. Sources are rarely required for the older years for lists like these AFAICT. I do not understand why you would revert my addition without doing anything about the massive number of existing unsourced entries on those pages (almost all of them were unsourced). I would appreciate it if you could please explain this to me. Thanks, <a href="/wiki/User:QuicoleJR" title="User:QuicoleJR">QuicoleJR</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:QuicoleJR" title="User talk:QuicoleJR">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Deb#c-QuicoleJR-20240723142900-Birth_and_death_lists" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:29, 23 July 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-QuicoleJR-20240723142900-Birth_and_death_lists"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-QuicoleJR-20240723142900-Birth_and_death_lists"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Deb-20240723143100-QuicoleJR-20240723142900"></span>Who says I'm not doing anything about them? I've been "doing something about them" since the new guidelines were agreed by the community in 2018. Take a look at my edits. The problem is that there are thousands and thousands of such entries, and some contributors are still adding unreferenced edits, which just makes the job harder. <a href="/wiki/User:Deb" title="User:Deb">Deb</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Deb#c-Deb-20240723143100-QuicoleJR-20240723142900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:31, 23 July 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Deb-20240723143100-QuicoleJR-20240723142900"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Deb-20240723143100-QuicoleJR-20240723142900"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-QuicoleJR-20240723143700-Deb-20240723143100"></span>Ah, OK. I did not know this. I apologize for the inconvenience and I will try to remember to add sources with new entries in the future. <a href="/wiki/User:QuicoleJR" title="User:QuicoleJR">QuicoleJR</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:QuicoleJR" title="User talk:QuicoleJR">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Deb#c-QuicoleJR-20240723143700-Deb-20240723143100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:37, 23 July 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-QuicoleJR-20240723143700-Deb-20240723143100"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-QuicoleJR-20240723143700-Deb-20240723143100"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Deb-20240723143900-QuicoleJR-20240723143700"></span>Thanks, and if you ever feel like helping out... :-) <a href="/wiki/User:Deb" title="User:Deb">Deb</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Deb#c-Deb-20240723143900-QuicoleJR-20240723143700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:39, 23 July 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Deb-20240723143900-QuicoleJR-20240723143700"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Deb-20240723143900-QuicoleJR-20240723143700"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Women_in_Red_August_2024" data-mw-thread-id="h-Women_in_Red_August_2024-20240725195600"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Women_in_Red_August_2024-20240725195600"></span>Women in Red August 2024<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Women_in_Red_August_2024-20240725195600"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Deb&action=edit&section=71" title="Edit section: Women in Red August 2024"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <table style="border: 5px solid #ABCDEF ; 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I added some references, but you might have been working from an earlier version of the draft. I think the topic is notable despite the fact that it reads a bit like advertising. <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:LeapTorchGear&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:LeapTorchGear (page does not exist)">LeapTorchGear</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:LeapTorchGear" title="User talk:LeapTorchGear">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Deb#c-LeapTorchGear-20240728081200-Draft:UK-Med" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">08:12, 28 July 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-LeapTorchGear-20240728081200-Draft:UK-Med"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-LeapTorchGear-20240728081200-Draft:UK-Med"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Deb-20240728081500-LeapTorchGear-20240728081200"></span>Yes, but reading like advertising is a reason for speedy deletion, in which case notability is not relevant. <a href="/wiki/User:Deb" title="User:Deb">Deb</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Deb#c-Deb-20240728081500-LeapTorchGear-20240728081200" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">08:15, 28 July 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Deb-20240728081500-LeapTorchGear-20240728081200"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Deb-20240728081500-LeapTorchGear-20240728081200"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Draft:Parkland_College_Institute_of_Aviation" data-mw-thread-id="h-Draft:Parkland_College_Institute_of_Aviation-20240730173100"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Draft:Parkland_College_Institute_of_Aviation-20240730173100"></span>Draft:Parkland College Institute of Aviation<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Draft:Parkland_College_Institute_of_Aviation-20240730173100"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Deb&action=edit&section=73" title="Edit section: Draft:Parkland College Institute of Aviation"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Pcfan83-20240730173100-Draft:Parkland_College_Institute_of_Aviation"></span>Hello Deb, If you would please help us by letting us know how we can get this article up and not have it pulled down any longer, we'd appreciate it. I cannot understand the specific reason it has been pulled down this time, unless it's that we've referenced the wiki for the U of I's Institute of Aviation. If that's the only reason, I'm happy to remove it. <a href="/wiki/User:Pcfan83" title="User:Pcfan83">Pcfan83</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Pcfan83" title="User talk:Pcfan83">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Deb#c-Pcfan83-20240730173100-Draft:Parkland_College_Institute_of_Aviation" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:31, 30 July 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Pcfan83-20240730173100-Draft:Parkland_College_Institute_of_Aviation"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Pcfan83-20240730173100-Draft:Parkland_College_Institute_of_Aviation"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Deb-20240730173700-Pcfan83-20240730173100"></span>Why do you keep saying "we"? Are you writing on behalf of the organisation? <a href="/wiki/User:Deb" title="User:Deb">Deb</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Deb#c-Deb-20240730173700-Pcfan83-20240730173100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:37, 30 July 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Deb-20240730173700-Pcfan83-20240730173100"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Deb-20240730173700-Pcfan83-20240730173100"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Pcfan83-20240730174100-Deb-20240730173700"></span>Yes, I am the marketing director of the college. <a href="/wiki/User:Pcfan83" title="User:Pcfan83">Pcfan83</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Pcfan83" title="User talk:Pcfan83">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Deb#c-Pcfan83-20240730174100-Deb-20240730173700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:41, 30 July 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Pcfan83-20240730174100-Deb-20240730173700"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Pcfan83-20240730174100-Deb-20240730173700"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Deb-20240730180700-Pcfan83-20240730174100"></span>Why have you not declared your <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:COI" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:COI">conflict of interest</a> on your user page as requested? <a href="/wiki/User:Deb" title="User:Deb">Deb</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Deb#c-Deb-20240730180700-Pcfan83-20240730174100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:07, 30 July 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Deb-20240730180700-Pcfan83-20240730174100"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Deb-20240730180700-Pcfan83-20240730174100"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Pcfan83-20240730183800-Deb-20240730180700"></span>I have placed it on the user page. When I started contributing to Wikipedia nearly 20 years ago, I didn't know I needed to have a user page. I'm afraid I'm quite the older user... <a href="/wiki/User:Pcfan83" title="User:Pcfan83">Pcfan83</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Pcfan83" title="User talk:Pcfan83">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Deb#c-Pcfan83-20240730183800-Deb-20240730180700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:38, 30 July 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Pcfan83-20240730183800-Deb-20240730180700"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Pcfan83-20240730183800-Deb-20240730180700"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Deb-20240730203500-Pcfan83-20240730183800"></span>Wikipedians don't have to have a user page. But if you have a COI, you <i>must</i> declare it. Also, we don't allow user accounts to be used by more than one person, which your wording implies you are doing. As you are being paid to promote the college, you need to create an article that is neutral, such that no one reading it would be able to tell that you work for them. At the moment, it's blatantly obvious from the wording. In fact, it's obvious from the very first sentence. It would be a good idea for you to practise editing with small changes to other articles before you try to create one from scratch. <a href="/wiki/User:Deb" title="User:Deb">Deb</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Deb#c-Deb-20240730203500-Pcfan83-20240730183800" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:35, 30 July 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Deb-20240730203500-Pcfan83-20240730183800"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Deb-20240730203500-Pcfan83-20240730183800"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Pcfan83-20240730225300-Deb-20240730203500"></span>Thank you for your time. <a href="/wiki/User:Pcfan83" title="User:Pcfan83">Pcfan83</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Pcfan83" title="User talk:Pcfan83">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Deb#c-Pcfan83-20240730225300-Deb-20240730203500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:53, 30 July 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Pcfan83-20240730225300-Deb-20240730203500"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Pcfan83-20240730225300-Deb-20240730203500"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Space_Power_Deletion" data-mw-thread-id="h-Space_Power_Deletion-20240803171500"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Space_Power_Deletion-20240803171500"></span>Space Power Deletion<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Space_Power_Deletion-20240803171500"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Deb&action=edit&section=74" title="Edit section: Space Power Deletion"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Thesuperkev-20240803171500-Space_Power_Deletion"></span>Hey Deb, </p><p>I really appreciate the role you play in the community (no sarcasm!)- I wanted to just give a heads up that I will be rewriting the Space Power article that was recently deleted. The job had been given to an intern and they ran with it in the opposite direction to what had been briefed... I read the article and totally understand why it was ripe for deletion. </p><p>I will be writing the article to give a solid background to how Power works in Space, and their specific intricacies, challenges and developments. I hope to maintain this as the technology and industry develops. </p><p>If possible, please afford me a bit of leniency whilst I write my first article (I read about he sandbox etc., but I do think I can get it without too much handholding) - there are a few different sources I will need to dig up so I will understand some citations needed as I work on this. </p><p>Many thanks, </p><p>Keval <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Thesuperkev&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Thesuperkev (page does not exist)">Thesuperkev</a> (<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Thesuperkev&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:Thesuperkev (page does not exist)">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Deb#c-Thesuperkev-20240803171500-Space_Power_Deletion" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:15, 3 August 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Thesuperkev-20240803171500-Space_Power_Deletion"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Thesuperkev-20240803171500-Space_Power_Deletion"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Deb-20240804120100-Thesuperkev-20240803171500"></span>Hi. Thanks for letting me know, but you do realise that giving someone the "job" of writing a Wikipedia article about your company means that they must immediately declare paid COI editing (and so must you)? I recommend reading <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:When_your_boss_tells_you_to_edit_Wikipedia" title="Wikipedia:When your boss tells you to edit Wikipedia">Wikipedia:When your boss tells you to edit Wikipedia</a> for additional guidance. <a href="/wiki/User:Deb" title="User:Deb">Deb</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Deb#c-Deb-20240804120100-Thesuperkev-20240803171500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:01, 4 August 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Deb-20240804120100-Thesuperkev-20240803171500"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Deb-20240804120100-Thesuperkev-20240803171500"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Thesuperkev-20240804123700-Deb-20240804120100"></span>Ah right... this was more of a favour outside of his direct job.</dd> <dd>We do a fair bit of volunteering / education streams that aren't directly 'paid'. I'm doing this in my free time, as I do engineering workshops for kids etc., so I just categorised this in the same way. <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Thesuperkev&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Thesuperkev (page does not exist)">Thesuperkev</a> (<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Thesuperkev&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:Thesuperkev (page does not exist)">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Deb#c-Thesuperkev-20240804123700-Deb-20240804120100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:37, 4 August 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Thesuperkev-20240804123700-Deb-20240804120100"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Thesuperkev-20240804123700-Deb-20240804120100"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Deb-20240804124300-Thesuperkev-20240804123700"></span>That's okay, but if you have a link to the company, you must declare it. 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I have now tried to fix the issues and removed an information taken from a blog just yesterday but there is no further response to it. Could you please tell me ways to improve it rathe than deletion as the subject is a notable person, has media appearance, as well as popularity in the field of trade. Awaiting your worthy suggestion. </p><p>Regards, </p><p>Sehar Awais <a href="/wiki/User:Sehar_Awais" title="User:Sehar Awais">Sehar Awais</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Sehar_Awais" title="User talk:Sehar Awais">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Deb#c-Sehar_Awais-20240811182000-Suggestions_for_improving_Draft:_Hilary_DeCesare" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:20, 11 August 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Sehar_Awais-20240811182000-Suggestions_for_improving_Draft:_Hilary_DeCesare"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Sehar_Awais-20240811182000-Suggestions_for_improving_Draft:_Hilary_DeCesare"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Deb-20240812092300-Sehar_Awais-20240811182000"></span>Please declare your <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:COI" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:COI">conflict of interest</a> before you go any further. <a href="/wiki/User:Deb" title="User:Deb">Deb</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Deb#c-Deb-20240812092300-Sehar_Awais-20240811182000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:23, 12 August 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Deb-20240812092300-Sehar_Awais-20240811182000"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Deb-20240812092300-Sehar_Awais-20240811182000"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Sehar_Awais-20240812093800-Deb-20240812092300"></span>It is all as transparent as a water. My soul purpose of working on this article is to practice and understand the workings of Wikipedia. My sister work as a freelancer on Upwork and freelancer. Since I have been writing articles and other content writing jobs outsourced to me, Wikipedia is something I never tried but was confident that I can do it. She therefore, requested me to create an article for this person after herself checking her notability. The subject's assistance has paid some amount (60 USD) to my sister already and is now after her to get it done and it is all because of me that my sister is caught into trouble. I hereby declare declare that I don't have any personal links to the subject except for the issue mentioned. I seriously need your assistance please. <a href="/wiki/User:Sehar_Awais" title="User:Sehar Awais">Sehar Awais</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Sehar_Awais" title="User talk:Sehar Awais">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Deb#c-Sehar_Awais-20240812093800-Deb-20240812092300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:38, 12 August 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Sehar_Awais-20240812093800-Deb-20240812092300"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Sehar_Awais-20240812093800-Deb-20240812092300"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Deb-20240812113000-Sehar_Awais-20240812093800"></span>See <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Paid_editing_(guideline)" title="Wikipedia:Paid editing (guideline)">Wikipedia:Paid editing (guideline)</a> and <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Paid-contribution_disclosure" title="Wikipedia:Paid-contribution disclosure">Wikipedia:Paid-contribution disclosure</a> to find our what you must do. <a href="/wiki/User:Deb" title="User:Deb">Deb</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Deb#c-Deb-20240812113000-Sehar_Awais-20240812093800" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:30, 12 August 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Deb-20240812113000-Sehar_Awais-20240812093800"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Deb-20240812113000-Sehar_Awais-20240812093800"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Sehar_Awais-20240813062000-Deb-20240812113000"></span>Hello Deb, I have disclosed my status as an occasionally paid contributor on this platform. What is next? <a href="/wiki/User:Sehar_Awais" title="User:Sehar Awais">Sehar Awais</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Sehar_Awais" title="User talk:Sehar Awais">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Deb#c-Sehar_Awais-20240813062000-Deb-20240812113000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">06:20, 13 August 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Sehar_Awais-20240813062000-Deb-20240812113000"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Sehar_Awais-20240813062000-Deb-20240812113000"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Deb-20240813062600-Sehar_Awais-20240813062000"></span>You've read the guidelines. Please act in accordance with these at all times. You know that paid editing is discouraged. You should also be aware that any article you succeed in creating will be tagged accordingly. <a href="/wiki/User:Deb" title="User:Deb">Deb</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Deb#c-Deb-20240813062600-Sehar_Awais-20240813062000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">06:26, 13 August 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Deb-20240813062600-Sehar_Awais-20240813062000"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Deb-20240813062600-Sehar_Awais-20240813062000"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Sehar_Awais-20240813074500-Deb-20240813062600"></span>Sure, I will. Could you please take a look at it now? <a href="/wiki/User:Sehar_Awais" title="User:Sehar Awais">Sehar Awais</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Sehar_Awais" title="User talk:Sehar Awais">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Deb#c-Sehar_Awais-20240813074500-Deb-20240813062600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">07:45, 13 August 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Sehar_Awais-20240813074500-Deb-20240813062600"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Sehar_Awais-20240813074500-Deb-20240813062600"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Deb-20240813074700-Sehar_Awais-20240813074500"></span>In my opinion, there is no chance of it passing review at present. The references are inadequate to demonstrate notability and the wording makes it obvious that it was written to order. <a href="/wiki/User:Deb" title="User:Deb">Deb</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Deb#c-Deb-20240813074700-Sehar_Awais-20240813074500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">07:47, 13 August 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Deb-20240813074700-Sehar_Awais-20240813074500"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Deb-20240813074700-Sehar_Awais-20240813074500"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Sehar_Awais-20240813074900-Deb-20240813074700"></span>Despite the fact that it has been already labelled as a stub article? <a href="/wiki/User:Sehar_Awais" title="User:Sehar Awais">Sehar Awais</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Sehar_Awais" title="User talk:Sehar Awais">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Deb#c-Sehar_Awais-20240813074900-Deb-20240813074700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">07:49, 13 August 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Sehar_Awais-20240813074900-Deb-20240813074700"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Sehar_Awais-20240813074900-Deb-20240813074700"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Deb-20240813075200-Sehar_Awais-20240813074900"></span>That doesn't have anything to do with whether it's ready for article space. Writing one book and founding a small company that is now defunct do not make a person notable. <a href="/wiki/User:Deb" title="User:Deb">Deb</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Deb#c-Deb-20240813075200-Sehar_Awais-20240813074900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">07:52, 13 August 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Deb-20240813075200-Sehar_Awais-20240813074900"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Deb-20240813075200-Sehar_Awais-20240813074900"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Sehar_Awais-20240813075500-Deb-20240813075200"></span>So I shouldn't be clicking the submit for review button? <a href="/wiki/User:Sehar_Awais" title="User:Sehar Awais">Sehar Awais</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Sehar_Awais" title="User talk:Sehar Awais">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Deb#c-Sehar_Awais-20240813075500-Deb-20240813075200" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">07:55, 13 August 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Sehar_Awais-20240813075500-Deb-20240813075200"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Sehar_Awais-20240813075500-Deb-20240813075200"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Deb-20240813075800-Sehar_Awais-20240813075500"></span>If you want it to fail the review, by all means submit it. I would, however, advise you not to bother. Unless you can produce some new facts that demonstrate this person's notability, you are just wasting your time. There are very few successful paid contributors, because the task of neutral editing requires not only considerable skill but also a worthwhile subject. <a href="/wiki/User:Deb" title="User:Deb">Deb</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Deb#c-Deb-20240813075800-Sehar_Awais-20240813075500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">07:58, 13 August 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Deb-20240813075800-Sehar_Awais-20240813075500"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Deb-20240813075800-Sehar_Awais-20240813075500"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Sehar_Awais-20240813080000-Deb-20240813075800"></span>Ok Dear, thankyou so much for your precious time and valuable suggestions. I am truly grateful.</dd> <dd>Best Regards,</dd> <dd>Sehar. <a href="/wiki/User:Sehar_Awais" title="User:Sehar Awais">Sehar Awais</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Sehar_Awais" title="User talk:Sehar Awais">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Deb#c-Sehar_Awais-20240813080000-Deb-20240813075800" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">08:00, 13 August 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Sehar_Awais-20240813080000-Deb-20240813075800"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Sehar_Awais-20240813080000-Deb-20240813075800"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Tips" data-mw-thread-id="h-Tips-20240812143900"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Tips-20240812143900"></span>Tips<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Tips-20240812143900"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Deb&action=edit&section=77" title="Edit section: Tips"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Amanatadverse17-20240812143900-Tips"></span>Hello Mr @<a href="/wiki/User:Deb" title="User:Deb">Deb</a> you recently declined my AFC Request for the article <a class="external text" href="https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Manish_Kashyap">Manish Kashyap</a> so i have made changes in it could you please review it now. Thank You <a href="/wiki/User:Amanatadverse17" class="mw-redirect" title="User:Amanatadverse17">Amanatadverse17</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Amanatadverse17" class="mw-redirect" title="User talk:Amanatadverse17">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Deb#c-Amanatadverse17-20240812143900-Tips" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:39, 12 August 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Amanatadverse17-20240812143900-Tips"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Amanatadverse17-20240812143900-Tips"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Draft:Jhalak_Bahadur_Magar" data-mw-thread-id="h-Draft:Jhalak_Bahadur_Magar-20240814055900"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Draft:Jhalak_Bahadur_Magar-20240814055900"></span><a href="/wiki/Draft:Jhalak_Bahadur_Magar" class="mw-redirect" title="Draft:Jhalak Bahadur Magar">Draft:Jhalak Bahadur Magar</a><span data-mw-comment-end="h-Draft:Jhalak_Bahadur_Magar-20240814055900"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Deb&action=edit&section=78" title="Edit section: Draft:Jhalak Bahadur Magar"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Aviram7-20240814055900-Draft:Jhalak_Bahadur_Magar"></span>Deb, Hello and I was reviewing <a href="/wiki/Draft:Jhalak_Bahadur_Magar" class="mw-redirect" title="Draft:Jhalak Bahadur Magar">Draft:Jhalak Bahadur Magar</a> and I've identified the subject is currently passes <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:NPOL" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:NPOL">WP:NPOL</a> and when I trying to moved from draft to article namespace then I saw error in moving because <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1248585704"><q class="inline-quote-talk">you temporary fully protected <b>Jhalak Bahadur Magar</b> for creation.</q> Therefore I request to you please remove protection from the following article for creation and then I 'm able to them from draft to namespace. Happy editing --- <i><span style="background:#FF7722;border:1px solid #FE632A;border-radius:18px;padding:4px"><a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Aviram7&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Aviram7 (page does not exist)"><span style="color:#000000">ᗩvírαm7</span></a> • <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Aviram7" class="mw-redirect" title="User talk:Aviram7"><span style="color:#000000">(@píng mє-tαlk mє)</span></a></span></i> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Deb#c-Aviram7-20240814055900-Draft:Jhalak_Bahadur_Magar" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">05:59, 14 August 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Aviram7-20240814055900-Draft:Jhalak_Bahadur_Magar"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Aviram7-20240814055900-Draft:Jhalak_Bahadur_Magar"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Deb-20240814075900-Aviram7-20240814055900"></span>Hi. I've changed the protection now, so you will be able to create the article but the banned users (mostly using SPAs) won't. <a href="/wiki/User:Deb" title="User:Deb">Deb</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Deb#c-Deb-20240814075900-Aviram7-20240814055900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">07:59, 14 August 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Deb-20240814075900-Aviram7-20240814055900"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Deb-20240814075900-Aviram7-20240814055900"></span></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Aviram7-20240814083600-Deb-20240814075900"></span>Splendid,I aware about that but an Ip is created this draft and thanks a lot for fulfilling my request. Happy editing --- <i><span style="background:#FF7722;border:1px solid #FE632A;border-radius:18px;padding:4px"><a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Aviram7&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Aviram7 (page does not exist)"><span style="color:#000000">ᗩvírαm7</span></a> • <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Aviram7" class="mw-redirect" title="User talk:Aviram7"><span style="color:#000000">(@píng mє-tαlk mє)</span></a></span></i> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Deb#c-Aviram7-20240814083600-Deb-20240814075900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">08:36, 14 August 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Aviram7-20240814083600-Deb-20240814075900"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Aviram7-20240814083600-Deb-20240814075900"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Nomination_of_Penelope_Brudenell,_Countess_of_Cardigan_for_deletion" data-mw-thread-id="h-Nomination_of_Penelope_Brudenell,_Countess_of_Cardigan_for_deletion-20240819190300"><span id="Nomination_of_Penelope_Brudenell.2C_Countess_of_Cardigan_for_deletion"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Nomination_of_Penelope_Brudenell,_Countess_of_Cardigan_for_deletion-20240819190300"></span>Nomination of <a href="/wiki/Penelope_Brudenell,_Countess_of_Cardigan" title="Penelope Brudenell, Countess of Cardigan">Penelope Brudenell, Countess of Cardigan</a> for deletion<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Nomination_of_Penelope_Brudenell,_Countess_of_Cardigan_for_deletion-20240819190300"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Deb&action=edit&section=79" title="Edit section: Nomination of Penelope Brudenell, Countess of Cardigan for deletion"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <div class="afd-notice"> <div class="floatleft" style="margin-bottom:0"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Surtsicna-20240819190300-Nomination_of_Penelope_Brudenell,_Countess_of_Cardigan_for_deletion"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/5/5f/Ambox_warning_orange.svg/48px-Ambox_warning_orange.svg.png" decoding="async" width="48" height="41" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/5/5f/Ambox_warning_orange.svg/72px-Ambox_warning_orange.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/5/5f/Ambox_warning_orange.svg/96px-Ambox_warning_orange.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="378" data-file-height="326"/></span></span></div>A discussion is taking place as to whether the article <a href="/wiki/Penelope_Brudenell,_Countess_of_Cardigan" title="Penelope Brudenell, Countess of Cardigan">Penelope Brudenell, Countess of Cardigan</a> is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:List_of_policies_and_guidelines" title="Wikipedia:List of policies and guidelines">Wikipedia's policies and guidelines</a> or whether it should be <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Deletion_policy" title="Wikipedia:Deletion policy">deleted</a>. <p>The article will be discussed at <b><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Penelope_Brudenell,_Countess_of_Cardigan" title="Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Penelope Brudenell, Countess of Cardigan">Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Penelope Brudenell, Countess of Cardigan</a></b> until a consensus is reached, and anyone, including you, is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines. </p> Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion notice from the top of the article until the discussion has finished.</div> <p><a href="/wiki/User:Surtsicna" title="User:Surtsicna">Surtsicna</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Surtsicna" title="User talk:Surtsicna">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Deb#c-Surtsicna-20240819190300-Nomination_of_Penelope_Brudenell,_Countess_of_Cardigan_for_deletion" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:03, 19 August 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Surtsicna-20240819190300-Nomination_of_Penelope_Brudenell,_Countess_of_Cardigan_for_deletion"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Surtsicna-20240819190300-Nomination_of_Penelope_Brudenell,_Countess_of_Cardigan_for_deletion"></span> </p><div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="PVDasm_Deletion" data-mw-thread-id="h-PVDasm_Deletion-20240821035800"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-PVDasm_Deletion-20240821035800"></span>PVDasm Deletion<span data-mw-comment-end="h-PVDasm_Deletion-20240821035800"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Deb&action=edit&section=80" title="Edit section: PVDasm Deletion"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Shanytc-20240821035800-PVDasm_Deletion"></span>Hi, I am not sure why you deleted my page, what was the rush? Didn't I tell you I am going to re-write the parts that you claim were "promotional"? <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Shanytc&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Shanytc (page does not exist)">Shanytc</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Shanytc" title="User talk:Shanytc">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Deb#c-Shanytc-20240821035800-PVDasm_Deletion" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">03:58, 21 August 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Shanytc-20240821035800-PVDasm_Deletion"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Shanytc-20240821035800-PVDasm_Deletion"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Shanytc-20240821040000-Shanytc-20240821035800"></span>also locking it making it unfair for others to write about it in the future as well. wikipedia is a free open place where information should be shared. <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Shanytc&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Shanytc (page does not exist)">Shanytc</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Shanytc" title="User talk:Shanytc">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Deb#c-Shanytc-20240821040000-Shanytc-20240821035800" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">04:00, 21 August 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Shanytc-20240821040000-Shanytc-20240821035800"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Shanytc-20240821040000-Shanytc-20240821035800"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Deb-20240821070500-Shanytc-20240821040000"></span>Then use <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_Creation" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:Articles for Creation">Wikipedia:Articles for Creation</a> facility. And you <i>still</i> haven't declared your conflict of interest as is required. <a href="/wiki/User:Deb" title="User:Deb">Deb</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Deb#c-Deb-20240821070500-Shanytc-20240821040000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">07:05, 21 August 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Deb-20240821070500-Shanytc-20240821040000"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Deb-20240821070500-Shanytc-20240821040000"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Please_move_Muzaffar_Aazim_back_to_mainspace" data-mw-thread-id="h-Please_move_Muzaffar_Aazim_back_to_mainspace-20240825225900"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Please_move_Muzaffar_Aazim_back_to_mainspace-20240825225900"></span>Please move <a href="/wiki/Muzaffar_Aazim" title="Muzaffar Aazim">Muzaffar Aazim</a> back to mainspace<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Please_move_Muzaffar_Aazim_back_to_mainspace-20240825225900"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Deb&action=edit&section=81" title="Edit section: Please move Muzaffar Aazim back to mainspace"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Mach61-20240825225900-Please_move_Muzaffar_Aazim_back_to_mainspace"></span>On April 13, you draftified the page and protected it from recreation. You did so despite <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:DRAFTOBJECT" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:DRAFTOBJECT">WP:DRAFTOBJECT</a> explicitly stating not to unilaterally draftify articles which have already been moved back to mainspace more than once, <a href="/wiki/Special:Diff/1209710494" title="Special:Diff/1209710494">as was the case here</a>. Moreover, this article was already <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Muzaffar_Aazim" title="Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Muzaffar Aazim">nominated for deletion and kept</a>, meaning that a requirement the article pass through AfC as a draft conflicts with <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:AFCR" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:AFCR">WP:AFCR</a>, which instructs reviewers that <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1248585704"><q class="inline-quote-talk">The purpose of reviewing is to identify which submissions will be deleted and which won't. Articles that will probably survive a listing at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion should be accepted.</q> Since the article <i>did</i> pass AfD, any AfC reviewer's opinions are irrelevant. By making it impossible for non-admins to move the article back, you have <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:SUPERVOTE" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:SUPERVOTE">WP:SUPERVOTE</a>D away the consensus found at AfD, which was that the article was suitable for mainspace (anyone who wanted to draftify the article could have !voted as such there). Please revert your page protection and draftification. Cheers, <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Mach61" title="User talk:Mach61">Mach61</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Deb#c-Mach61-20240825225900-Please_move_Muzaffar_Aazim_back_to_mainspace" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:59, 25 August 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Mach61-20240825225900-Please_move_Muzaffar_Aazim_back_to_mainspace"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Mach61-20240825225900-Please_move_Muzaffar_Aazim_back_to_mainspace"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Deb-20240826133900-Mach61-20240825225900"></span>Oh, okay. As it stands it's hugely promotional and easily meets G11. <a href="/wiki/User:Deb" title="User:Deb">Deb</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Deb#c-Deb-20240826133900-Mach61-20240825225900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:39, 26 August 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Deb-20240826133900-Mach61-20240825225900"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Deb-20240826133900-Mach61-20240825225900"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Mach61-20240826134400-Deb-20240826133900"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:Deb" title="User:Deb">Deb</a> That cannot possibly be true. The page <i>already</i> survived a deletion discussion. Speedy deletion <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1248585704"><q class="inline-quote-talk">is intended to reduce the time spent on deletion discussions for pages or media with no practical chance of surviving discussion.</q> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Mach61" title="User talk:Mach61">Mach61</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Deb#c-Mach61-20240826134400-Deb-20240826133900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:44, 26 August 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Mach61-20240826134400-Deb-20240826133900"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Mach61-20240826134400-Deb-20240826133900"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Deb-20240826141000-Mach61-20240826134400"></span>The promotional content was added after the deletion discussion concluded in March. The article has had considerable expansion since then, so I have taken it back to where it was when the deletion discussion concluded. It failed a review <i>after</i> it was placed in draft. <a href="/wiki/User:Deb" title="User:Deb">Deb</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Deb#c-Deb-20240826141000-Mach61-20240826134400" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:10, 26 August 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Deb-20240826141000-Mach61-20240826134400"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Deb-20240826141000-Mach61-20240826134400"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Mach61-20240826172500-Deb-20240826141000"></span>Thanks! <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Mach61" title="User talk:Mach61">Mach61</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Deb#c-Mach61-20240826172500-Deb-20240826141000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:25, 26 August 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Mach61-20240826172500-Deb-20240826141000"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Mach61-20240826172500-Deb-20240826141000"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="September_2024_at_Women_in_Red" data-mw-thread-id="h-September_2024_at_Women_in_Red-20240826185600"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-September_2024_at_Women_in_Red-20240826185600"></span>September 2024 at Women in Red<span data-mw-comment-end="h-September_2024_at_Women_in_Red-20240826185600"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Deb&action=edit&section=82" title="Edit section: September 2024 at Women in Red"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <table style="border: 5px solid #ABCDEF ; 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title="Special:PermanentLink/1242104108">Pppery</a></dd></dl> </div> <div style="flex: 1 0 20em"> <figure class="mw-halign-right" typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:ANEWSicon.png" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/62/ANEWSicon.png/150px-ANEWSicon.png" decoding="async" width="150" height="151" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/62/ANEWSicon.png/225px-ANEWSicon.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/62/ANEWSicon.png/300px-ANEWSicon.png 2x" data-file-width="596" data-file-height="600"/></a><figcaption></figcaption></figure> <p><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Oversight_logo.png" class="mw-file-description"><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/06/Oversight_logo.png/20px-Oversight_logo.png" decoding="async" width="20" height="20" class="mw-file-element" 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href="/wiki/Special:Diff/1241023887#Changes_to_the_functionaries_team,_August_2024" title="Special:Diff/1241023887">Wugapodes</a></dd></dl> <p><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Checkuser_Logo.svg" class="mw-file-description"><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/4/49/Checkuser_Logo.svg/20px-Checkuser_Logo.svg.png" decoding="async" width="20" height="20" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/4/49/Checkuser_Logo.svg/30px-Checkuser_Logo.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/4/49/Checkuser_Logo.svg/40px-Checkuser_Logo.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="110" data-file-height="110"/></a></span> <b>CheckUser changes</b> </p> <dl><dd><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Gnome-colors-list-remove.svg" class="mw-file-description" title="Removed"><img alt="removed" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/f8/Gnome-colors-list-remove.svg/20px-Gnome-colors-list-remove.svg.png" decoding="async" width="20" height="20" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/f8/Gnome-colors-list-remove.svg/30px-Gnome-colors-list-remove.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/f8/Gnome-colors-list-remove.svg/40px-Gnome-colors-list-remove.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="48" data-file-height="48"/></a></span> <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1129693374"><div class="hlist inline"><ul><li><a href="/wiki/Special:Diff/1241023887#Changes_to_the_functionaries_team,_August_2024" title="Special:Diff/1241023887">Courcelles</a></li><li><a href="/wiki/Special:Diff/1241023887#Changes_to_the_functionaries_team,_August_2024" title="Special:Diff/1241023887">GeneralNotability</a></li></ul></div></dd></dl> </div> </div> <p><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Green_check.svg" class="mw-file-description"><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/03/Green_check.svg/20px-Green_check.svg.png" 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href="/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Notability_(species)#Proposal_to_adopt_this_guideline" title="Wikipedia talk:Notability (species)">request for comment</a> is open to discuss whether <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Notability_(species)" title="Wikipedia:Notability (species)">Notability (species)</a> should be adopted as a <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:SNG" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:SNG">subject-specific notability guideline</a>.</li></ul> <p><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Scale_of_justice_2.svg" class="mw-file-description"><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/0e/Scale_of_justice_2.svg/20px-Scale_of_justice_2.svg.png" decoding="async" width="20" height="20" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/0e/Scale_of_justice_2.svg/30px-Scale_of_justice_2.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/0e/Scale_of_justice_2.svg/40px-Scale_of_justice_2.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="204" 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title="Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/German war effort"><i>German war effort</i> case</a> ("<span class="plainlinks"><a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Cinderella157">Cinderella157</a></span> German history topic ban") was <a href="/wiki/Special:PermanentLink/1243178496Motion:_Cinderella157%27s_topic_ban_suspended" title="Special:PermanentLink/1243178496Motion: Cinderella157's topic ban suspended">suspended</a> for a period of six months.</li> <li>The arbitration case <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Historical_elections" title="Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Historical elections">Historical Elections</a> is currently open. Proposed decision is expected by 3 September 2024 for this case.</li></ul> <p><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Info_Simple_bw.svg" class="mw-file-description"><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/5a/Info_Simple_bw.svg/20px-Info_Simple_bw.svg.png" decoding="async" width="20" height="20" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/5a/Info_Simple_bw.svg/30px-Info_Simple_bw.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/5a/Info_Simple_bw.svg/40px-Info_Simple_bw.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="512" data-file-height="512"/></a></span> <b>Miscellaneous</b> </p> <ul><li>Editors can now enter into <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Good_article_review_circles" title="Wikipedia:Good article review circles">good article review circles</a>, an alternative for informal <i><a href="/wiki/Quid_pro_quo" title="Quid pro quo">quid pro quo</a></i> arrangements, to have a <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Good_article_nominations" title="Wikipedia:Good article nominations">GAN</a> reviewed in return for reviewing a different editor's nomination.</li> <li>A <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:New_pages_patrol/Backlog_drives/September_2024" title="Wikipedia:New pages patrol/Backlog drives/September 2024"><b>New Pages Patrol backlog drive</b></a> is happening in September 2024 to reduce the number of unreviewed articles and redirects in the <a href="/wiki/Special:NewPagesFeed" title="Special:NewPagesFeed">new pages feed</a>. Currently, there is a backlog of over 13,900 articles and 26,200 redirects awaiting review. <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:New_pages_patrol/Backlog_drives/September_2024/Participants" title="Wikipedia:New pages patrol/Backlog drives/September 2024/Participants"><b>Sign up here to participate!</b></a></li></ul> <hr/> <div class="center" style="width:auto; margin-left:auto; margin-right:auto;"><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1129693374"><div class="hlist"> <ul><li><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Administrators%27_newsletter" title="Wikipedia talk:Administrators' newsletter">Discuss this newsletter</a></li> <li><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Administrators%27_newsletter/Subscribe" title="Wikipedia:Administrators' newsletter/Subscribe">Subscribe</a></li> <li><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Administrators%27_newsletter/Archive" title="Wikipedia:Administrators' newsletter/Archive">Archive</a></li></ul> </div></div> <div class="center" style="width:auto; margin-left:auto; margin-right:auto;"><small>Sent by <a href="/wiki/User:MediaWiki_message_delivery" title="User:MediaWiki message delivery">MediaWiki message delivery</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:MediaWiki_message_delivery" title="User talk:MediaWiki message delivery">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Deb#c-MediaWiki_message_delivery-20240902184300-Administrators'_newsletter_–_September_2024" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:43, 2 September 2024 (UTC)</a><span data-mw-comment-end="c-MediaWiki_message_delivery-20240902184300-Administrators'_newsletter_–_September_2024"></span></small><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-MediaWiki_message_delivery-20240902184300-Administrators'_newsletter_–_September_2024"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span></div> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Why_do_a_revert_of_removing_red_link_in_Thattumpurath_Achuthan" data-mw-thread-id="h-Why_do_a_revert_of_removing_red_link_in_Thattumpurath_Achuthan-20240904083200"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Why_do_a_revert_of_removing_red_link_in_Thattumpurath_Achuthan-20240904083200"></span>Why do a revert of removing red link in Thattumpurath Achuthan<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Why_do_a_revert_of_removing_red_link_in_Thattumpurath_Achuthan-20240904083200"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Deb&action=edit&section=84" title="Edit section: Why do a revert of removing red link in Thattumpurath Achuthan"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Ranjithsiji-20240904083200-Why_do_a_revert_of_removing_red_link_in_Thattumpurath_Achuthan"></span>what is the reason of <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Thattumpurath_Achuthan&diff=1243952956&oldid=1241283321">this</a> revert? <a href="/wiki/User:Ranjithsiji" title="User:Ranjithsiji">Ranjithsiji</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Ranjithsiji" title="User talk:Ranjithsiji">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Deb#c-Ranjithsiji-20240904083200-Why_do_a_revert_of_removing_red_link_in_Thattumpurath_Achuthan" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">08:32, 4 September 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Ranjithsiji-20240904083200-Why_do_a_revert_of_removing_red_link_in_Thattumpurath_Achuthan"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Ranjithsiji-20240904083200-Why_do_a_revert_of_removing_red_link_in_Thattumpurath_Achuthan"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Deb-20240904112400-Ranjithsiji-20240904083200"></span>You linked to a non-existent article. <a href="/wiki/User:Deb" title="User:Deb">Deb</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Deb#c-Deb-20240904112400-Ranjithsiji-20240904083200" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:24, 4 September 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Deb-20240904112400-Ranjithsiji-20240904083200"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Deb-20240904112400-Ranjithsiji-20240904083200"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Ranjithsiji-20240905134100-Deb-20240904112400"></span>Is there any policy or something in english wikipedia which block creation of red links? --<a href="/wiki/User:Ranjithsiji" title="User:Ranjithsiji">Ranjithsiji</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Ranjithsiji" title="User talk:Ranjithsiji">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Deb#c-Ranjithsiji-20240905134100-Deb-20240904112400" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:41, 5 September 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Ranjithsiji-20240905134100-Deb-20240904112400"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Ranjithsiji-20240905134100-Deb-20240904112400"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Deb-20240905140200-Ranjithsiji-20240905134100"></span>Yes. "Articles should not contain red links to files, to templates, or to topics that do not warrant an article." <a href="/wiki/User:Deb" title="User:Deb">Deb</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Deb#c-Deb-20240905140200-Ranjithsiji-20240905134100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:02, 5 September 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Deb-20240905140200-Ranjithsiji-20240905134100"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Deb-20240905140200-Ranjithsiji-20240905134100"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="ANI_Courtesy_Notice" data-mw-thread-id="h-ANI_Courtesy_Notice-20240907184500"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-ANI_Courtesy_Notice-20240907184500"></span>ANI Courtesy Notice<span data-mw-comment-end="h-ANI_Courtesy_Notice-20240907184500"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Deb&action=edit&section=85" title="Edit section: ANI Courtesy Notice"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Jeraxmoira-20240907184500-ANI_Courtesy_Notice"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img alt="Information icon" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/1/1d/Information_icon4.svg/25px-Information_icon4.svg.png" decoding="async" width="25" height="25" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/1/1d/Information_icon4.svg/38px-Information_icon4.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/1/1d/Information_icon4.svg/50px-Information_icon4.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="620" data-file-height="620"/></span></span> There is currently a discussion at <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/Incidents" title="Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents">Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents</a> regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Thank you. <a href="/wiki/User:Jeraxmoira" title="User:Jeraxmoira">Jeraxmoira🐉</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Jeraxmoira" title="User talk:Jeraxmoira">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Deb#c-Jeraxmoira-20240907184500-ANI_Courtesy_Notice" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:45, 7 September 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Jeraxmoira-20240907184500-ANI_Courtesy_Notice"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Jeraxmoira-20240907184500-ANI_Courtesy_Notice"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="User:Richard_Elfman" data-mw-thread-id="h-User:Richard_Elfman-20240910024400"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-User:Richard_Elfman-20240910024400"></span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Richard_Elfman&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Richard Elfman (page does not exist)">User:Richard Elfman</a><span data-mw-comment-end="h-User:Richard_Elfman-20240910024400"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Deb&action=edit&section=86" title="Edit section: User:Richard Elfman"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Liz-20240910024400-User:Richard_Elfman"></span>Hello, Deb, </p><p>I was surprised that you blocked this editor for username reasons. He has been editing Wikipedia on and off for 17 years and it's always been evident that he is Richard Elfman and he has edited the article about himself. So, there are clear COI issues but I don't see a username violation and your blocking notice was very vague about what exactly is wrong with his username. If you think he needs to confirm that he is indeed Richard Elfman, well, that is a different template and it doesn't require that he choose a different username from his actual name. And it seems like COI is the problem here which could happen even if he picks a different username, there is no problem with his actual username that I can see. I hope you can consider my query into this block. Thank you. <span style="font-family:Papyrus; color:#800080;"><a href="/wiki/User:Liz" title="User:Liz"><i><b>L</b></i>iz</a></span> <sup style="font-family: Times New Roman; color: #006400;"><a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Liz" title="Special:Contributions/Liz"><i><b>Read!</b></i></a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Liz" title="User talk:Liz"><i><b>Talk!</b></i></a></sup> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Deb#c-Liz-20240910024400-User:Richard_Elfman" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">02:44, 10 September 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Liz-20240910024400-User:Richard_Elfman"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Liz-20240910024400-User:Richard_Elfman"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Deb-20240910071600-Liz-20240910024400"></span>Bearing in mind his involvement in probable meatpuppetry, I don't think he should be allowed to continue in this way. What alternative do you suggest? <a href="/wiki/User:Deb" title="User:Deb">Deb</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Deb#c-Deb-20240910071600-Liz-20240910024400" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">07:16, 10 September 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Deb-20240910071600-Liz-20240910024400"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Deb-20240910071600-Liz-20240910024400"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Requested_deletion_of_Erection_Hardness_Score_redirect" data-mw-thread-id="h-Requested_deletion_of_Erection_Hardness_Score_redirect-20240914161300"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Requested_deletion_of_Erection_Hardness_Score_redirect-20240914161300"></span>Requested deletion of <a href="/wiki/Erection_Hardness_Score" title="Erection Hardness Score">Erection Hardness Score</a> redirect<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Requested_deletion_of_Erection_Hardness_Score_redirect-20240914161300"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Deb&action=edit&section=87" title="Edit section: Requested deletion of Erection Hardness Score redirect"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Mooonswimmer-20240914161300-Requested_deletion_of_Erection_Hardness_Score_redirect"></span>Hello Deb, </p><p>I requested the deletion of the redirect at <a href="/wiki/Erection_Hardness_Score" title="Erection Hardness Score">Erection Hardness Score</a> to make way for my draft, <a href="/wiki/Draft:Erection_Hardness_Score" class="mw-redirect" title="Draft:Erection Hardness Score">Draft:Erection Hardness Score</a>. I'm not quite sure what you meant by "<i>wait until the draft has passed review".</i> I won't be submitting this to AfC, if that's what you meant. Please let me know. Thank you. ~~~~ <a href="/wiki/User:Mooonswimmer" title="User:Mooonswimmer">Mooonswimmer</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Deb#c-Mooonswimmer-20240914161300-Requested_deletion_of_Erection_Hardness_Score_redirect" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:13, 14 September 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Mooonswimmer-20240914161300-Requested_deletion_of_Erection_Hardness_Score_redirect"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Mooonswimmer-20240914161300-Requested_deletion_of_Erection_Hardness_Score_redirect"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Deb-20240914161800-Mooonswimmer-20240914161300"></span>It's already at AfC. Why did you create it in draft if you weren't going to ask for a review? <a href="/wiki/User:Deb" title="User:Deb">Deb</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Deb#c-Deb-20240914161800-Mooonswimmer-20240914161300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:18, 14 September 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Deb-20240914161800-Mooonswimmer-20240914161300"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Deb-20240914161800-Mooonswimmer-20240914161300"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Mooonswimmer-20240914164800-Deb-20240914161800"></span>I'm confused. There is no AfC tag on my draft. I did not submit it for reviewal.</dd> <dd>Submitting a draft for review at AfC is optional, no? I created it in draft as I often do with articles I might need more time to develop before publishing. <a href="/wiki/User:Mooonswimmer" title="User:Mooonswimmer">Mooonswimmer</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Deb#c-Mooonswimmer-20240914164800-Deb-20240914161800" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:48, 14 September 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Mooonswimmer-20240914164800-Deb-20240914161800"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Mooonswimmer-20240914164800-Deb-20240914161800"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Deb-20240914165800-Mooonswimmer-20240914164800"></span>Okay, I understand. I needed to check the history again to make sure it wasn't protected. I can delete it for you. <a href="/wiki/User:Deb" title="User:Deb">Deb</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Deb#c-Deb-20240914165800-Mooonswimmer-20240914164800" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:58, 14 September 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Deb-20240914165800-Mooonswimmer-20240914164800"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Deb-20240914165800-Mooonswimmer-20240914164800"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Mooonswimmer-20240914174300-Deb-20240914165800"></span>Great, thank you! <a href="/wiki/User:Mooonswimmer" title="User:Mooonswimmer">Mooonswimmer</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Deb#c-Mooonswimmer-20240914174300-Deb-20240914165800" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:43, 14 September 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Mooonswimmer-20240914174300-Deb-20240914165800"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Mooonswimmer-20240914174300-Deb-20240914165800"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id=""aren't_capable_of_reading"" data-mw-thread-id="h-"aren't_capable_of_reading"-20240918083900"><span id=".22aren.27t_capable_of_reading.22"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-"aren't_capable_of_reading"-20240918083900"></span>"aren't capable of reading"<span data-mw-comment-end="h-"aren't_capable_of_reading"-20240918083900"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Deb&action=edit&section=88" title="Edit section: "aren't capable of reading""><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Deepfriedokra-20240918083900-"aren't_capable_of_reading""></span>They are not. <a href="/wiki/User:Deepfriedokra" title="User:Deepfriedokra">-- Deepfriedokra</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Deepfriedokra" title="User talk:Deepfriedokra">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Deb#c-Deepfriedokra-20240918083900-"aren't_capable_of_reading"" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">08:39, 18 September 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Deepfriedokra-20240918083900-"aren't_capable_of_reading""><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Deepfriedokra-20240918083900-"aren't_capable_of_reading""></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Reclaim_Network" data-mw-thread-id="h-Reclaim_Network-20240918102500"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Reclaim_Network-20240918102500"></span>Reclaim Network<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Reclaim_Network-20240918102500"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Deb&action=edit&section=89" title="Edit section: Reclaim Network"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Galimatiasgg-20240918102500-Reclaim_Network"></span>This article wasn't meant to look like an advertisement in any manner. I don't know why you called it such, and delated it. It was an academic research page from a Columbia NY university teacher. Now how do I get it restored to further improve? </p><p>Thanks <a href="/wiki/User:Galimatiasgg" title="User:Galimatiasgg">Galimatiasgg</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Galimatiasgg" title="User talk:Galimatiasgg">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Deb#c-Galimatiasgg-20240918102500-Reclaim_Network" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:25, 18 September 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Galimatiasgg-20240918102500-Reclaim_Network"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Galimatiasgg-20240918102500-Reclaim_Network"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Deb-20240918120500-Galimatiasgg-20240918102500"></span>Please have a look at <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:No_original_research" title="Wikipedia:No original research">Wikipedia:No original research</a> and <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Conflict_of_interest" title="Wikipedia:Conflict of interest">Wikipedia:Conflict of interest</a>. Then come back and tell us about your involvement with the Reclaim network. <a href="/wiki/User:Deb" title="User:Deb">Deb</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Deb#c-Deb-20240918120500-Galimatiasgg-20240918102500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:05, 18 September 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Deb-20240918120500-Galimatiasgg-20240918102500"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Deb-20240918120500-Galimatiasgg-20240918102500"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="draft_page_titled_"Durus_Industries_Pvt_Ltd"" data-mw-thread-id="h-draft_page_titled_"Durus_Industries_Pvt_Ltd"-20240921074700"><span id="draft_page_titled_.22Durus_Industries_Pvt_Ltd.22"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-draft_page_titled_"Durus_Industries_Pvt_Ltd"-20240921074700"></span>draft page titled "Durus Industries Pvt Ltd"<span data-mw-comment-end="h-draft_page_titled_"Durus_Industries_Pvt_Ltd"-20240921074700"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Deb&action=edit&section=90" title="Edit section: draft page titled "Durus Industries Pvt Ltd""><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Trot_43245-20240921074700-draft_page_titled_"Durus_Industries_Pvt_Ltd""></span>I hope this message finds you well. I am writing to discuss the recent deletion of the Wikipedia draft page titled "Durus Industries Pvt Ltd", which was removed on 16 September 2024 under G11, for being deemed "unambiguous advertising or promotion." </p><p>I understand the importance of maintaining Wikipedia's standards, and I want to clarify the intent behind the page. The goal was to document the long history of Durus Industries, particularly its contribution to the soccer ball manufacturing industry, which has spanned over a century. </p><p>The draft was meant to highlight Durus Industries' impact on the sports goods sector and the historical context of soccer ball manufacturing, not as a promotional stunt. I fully appreciate the distinction between historical documentation and advertising, and I would be happy to make any necessary adjustments to the content to align with Wikipedia’s guidelines. </p><p>I would appreciate your guidance on how to proceed in a way that maintains the informational value while complying with Wikipedia’s policies. Your expertise would be invaluable in helping me present this important piece of industrial history in a neutral and informative manner. </p><p>look forward to your response <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Trot_43245&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Trot 43245 (page does not exist)">Trot 43245</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Trot_43245" title="User talk:Trot 43245">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Deb#c-Trot_43245-20240921074700-draft_page_titled_"Durus_Industries_Pvt_Ltd"" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">07:47, 21 September 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Trot_43245-20240921074700-draft_page_titled_"Durus_Industries_Pvt_Ltd""><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Trot_43245-20240921074700-draft_page_titled_"Durus_Industries_Pvt_Ltd""></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Deb-20240923154400-Trot_43245-20240921074700"></span>I just had another look at this and it's pretty obvious that either you have an undeclared conflict of interest (i.e. you have some connection with the company) or you have copied most of the article from the company's promotional material. You haven't included any independent references to back up anything you say in the article, and until you are able to do so, the article has no chance of survival, regardless of whether you are able to rewrite it in accordance with <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:NPOV" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:NPOV">our Wikipedia neutral point of view policy</a>. <a href="/wiki/User:Deb" title="User:Deb">Deb</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Deb#c-Deb-20240923154400-Trot_43245-20240921074700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:44, 23 September 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Deb-20240923154400-Trot_43245-20240921074700"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Deb-20240923154400-Trot_43245-20240921074700"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="RFA2024_update:_Discussion-only_period_now_open_for_review" data-mw-thread-id="h-RFA2024_update:_Discussion-only_period_now_open_for_review-20240927093800"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-RFA2024_update:_Discussion-only_period_now_open_for_review-20240927093800"></span>RFA2024 update: Discussion-only period now open for review<span data-mw-comment-end="h-RFA2024_update:_Discussion-only_period_now_open_for_review-20240927093800"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Deb&action=edit&section=91" title="Edit section: RFA2024 update: Discussion-only period now open for review"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-MediaWiki_message_delivery-20240927093800-RFA2024_update:_Discussion-only_period_now_open_for_review"></span>Hi there! The trial of the <strong>RfA discussion-only period</strong> passed at <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:RFA2024" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:RFA2024">WP:RFA2024</a> has concluded, and after open discussion, the RfC is now considering whether to retain, modify, or discontinue it. You are invited to participate at <b><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Requests_for_adminship/2024_review/Phase_II/Discussion-only_period" title="Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/2024 review/Phase II/Discussion-only period">Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/2024 review/Phase II/Discussion-only period</a></b>. 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href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1129693374"><div class="hlist inline"><ul><li><a href="/wiki/Special:PermanentLink/1245151768#Change_to_the_Checkuser_team" title="Special:PermanentLink/1245151768">Doug Weller</a></li><li><a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:Permalink/27415814#Spicy@enwiki" class="extiw" title="m:Special:Permalink/27415814">Spicy</a></li></ul></div></dd></dl> <p><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Green_check.svg" class="mw-file-description"><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/03/Green_check.svg/20px-Green_check.svg.png" decoding="async" width="20" height="20" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/03/Green_check.svg/30px-Green_check.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/03/Green_check.svg/40px-Green_check.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="600" data-file-height="600"/></a></span> <b>Guideline and policy news</b> </p> <ul><li><a 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margin-left:auto; margin-right:auto;"><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1129693374"><div class="hlist"> <ul><li><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Administrators%27_newsletter" title="Wikipedia talk:Administrators' newsletter">Discuss this newsletter</a></li> <li><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Administrators%27_newsletter/Subscribe" title="Wikipedia:Administrators' newsletter/Subscribe">Subscribe</a></li> <li><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Administrators%27_newsletter/Archive" title="Wikipedia:Administrators' newsletter/Archive">Archive</a></li></ul> </div></div> <div class="center" style="width:auto; margin-left:auto; margin-right:auto;"><small>Sent by <a href="/wiki/User:MediaWiki_message_delivery" title="User:MediaWiki message delivery">MediaWiki message delivery</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:MediaWiki_message_delivery" title="User talk:MediaWiki message delivery">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Deb#c-MediaWiki_message_delivery-20241002155900-Administrators'_newsletter_–_October_2024" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:59, 2 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span data-mw-comment-end="c-MediaWiki_message_delivery-20241002155900-Administrators'_newsletter_–_October_2024"></span></small><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-MediaWiki_message_delivery-20241002155900-Administrators'_newsletter_–_October_2024"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span></div> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Deletion_Review_for_(Green_TV_Entertainment)" data-mw-thread-id="h-Deletion_Review_for_(Green_TV_Entertainment)-20241003091200"><span id="Deletion_Review_for_.28Green_TV_Entertainment.29"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Deletion_Review_for_(Green_TV_Entertainment)-20241003091200"></span>Deletion Review for (Green TV Entertainment)<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Deletion_Review_for_(Green_TV_Entertainment)-20241003091200"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Deb&action=edit&section=95" title="Edit section: Deletion Review for (Green TV Entertainment)"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Zohaib_Alee-20241003091200-Deletion_Review_for_(Green_TV_Entertainment)"></span>Hi, </p><p>I recently submitted an article about Green TV Entertainment, which was unfortunately rejected for being considered promotional. I would like to kindly request you to reconsider the article. My intent was not to promote the channel but to present a neutral, well-referenced piece that provides factual information. </p><p>As I am relatively new to Wikipedia, I recognize that there may have been unintentional errors in the tone or structure. I have tried to follow Wikipedia’s guidelines to the best of my ability, using authentic references to ensure accuracy. I would appreciate it if you could restore my article and kindly guide me on the necessary revisions to align it with Wikipedia's standards. <a href="/wiki/User:Zohaib_Alee" title="User:Zohaib Alee">Zohaib Alee</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Zohaib_Alee" title="User talk:Zohaib Alee">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Deb#c-Zohaib_Alee-20241003091200-Deletion_Review_for_(Green_TV_Entertainment)" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:12, 3 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Zohaib_Alee-20241003091200-Deletion_Review_for_(Green_TV_Entertainment)"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Zohaib_Alee-20241003091200-Deletion_Review_for_(Green_TV_Entertainment)"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Deb-20241003131900-Zohaib_Alee-20241003091200"></span>You've already been given a lot of guidance. I'm not going to restore your article because it was promotionally worded, and you <i>must</i> declare any <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:COI" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:COI">conflict of interest</a>, whether or not you intend your articles to be promotional. <a href="/wiki/User:Deb" title="User:Deb">Deb</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Deb#c-Deb-20241003131900-Zohaib_Alee-20241003091200" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:19, 3 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Deb-20241003131900-Zohaib_Alee-20241003091200"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Deb-20241003131900-Zohaib_Alee-20241003091200"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-39.60.125.32-20241004095000-Deb-20241003131900"></span>Thank you for your feedback and for taking the time to review my submission. I sincerely apologize for the mistakes made in the initial article. I understand the importance of neutrality and adhering to Wikipedia’s guidelines. I assure you to rewrite the whole article, using new references and ensuring it to be neutral without any promotional tone.</dd> <dd>I kindly request you to restore the article so I can make the necessary revisions. I’m committed to follow Wikipedia's standards and would greatly appreciate your instructions moving forward. <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/39.60.125.32" title="Special:Contributions/39.60.125.32">39.60.125.32</a> (<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:39.60.125.32&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:39.60.125.32 (page does not exist)">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Deb#c-39.60.125.32-20241004095000-Deb-20241003131900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:50, 4 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-39.60.125.32-20241004095000-Deb-20241003131900"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-39.60.125.32-20241004095000-Deb-20241003131900"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Deb-20241004123300-39.60.125.32-20241004095000"></span>Erm - who are you? why aren't you logged in? <a href="/wiki/User:Deb" title="User:Deb">Deb</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Deb#c-Deb-20241004123300-39.60.125.32-20241004095000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:33, 4 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Deb-20241004123300-39.60.125.32-20241004095000"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Deb-20241004123300-39.60.125.32-20241004095000"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Zohaib_Alee-20241005084800-Deb-20241004123300"></span>Apologies for the confusion in my last message, I mistakenly submitted my reply without being logged in. To clarify, I am Zohaib Alee, the author of the article on Green TV Entertainment and the person who initiated this discussion.</dd> <dd>I kindly request that you reconsider restoring the article. I understand your concerns and will take all necessary steps to rewrite it, ensuring it is completely neutral, using new references, and avoiding any promotional language. Please guide me with any additional changes that are required. <a href="/wiki/User:Zohaib_Alee" title="User:Zohaib Alee">Zohaib Alee</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Zohaib_Alee" title="User talk:Zohaib Alee">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Deb#c-Zohaib_Alee-20241005084800-Deb-20241004123300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">08:48, 5 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Zohaib_Alee-20241005084800-Deb-20241004123300"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Zohaib_Alee-20241005084800-Deb-20241004123300"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Deb-20241005105800-Zohaib_Alee-20241005084800"></span>The guidelines are there for your guidance. Please read and follow them. Also, please remember to declare any <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:COI" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:COI">conflict of interest</a> and be aware that, if you recreate the article, it's likely to be tagged as a COI edit. <a href="/wiki/User:Deb" title="User:Deb">Deb</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Deb#c-Deb-20241005105800-Zohaib_Alee-20241005084800" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:58, 5 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Deb-20241005105800-Zohaib_Alee-20241005084800"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Deb-20241005105800-Zohaib_Alee-20241005084800"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Zohaib_Alee-20241007092700-Deb-20241005105800"></span>I have read the guidelines thoroughly and will ensure they are fully implemented. I understand the importance of adhering to the rules and declaring any potential conflict of interest.</dd> <dd>However, the article has not yet been restored, which limits me to make the necessary edits. Could you kindly restore it so I can proceed with the revisions in line with the guidelines? <a href="/wiki/User:Zohaib_Alee" title="User:Zohaib Alee">Zohaib Alee</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Zohaib_Alee" title="User talk:Zohaib Alee">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Deb#c-Zohaib_Alee-20241007092700-Deb-20241005105800" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:27, 7 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Zohaib_Alee-20241007092700-Deb-20241005105800"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Zohaib_Alee-20241007092700-Deb-20241005105800"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Deb-20241007111500-Zohaib_Alee-20241007092700"></span>Hi. I'm surprised to be asked this question yet again, as I've made it clear that I'm not going to restore the promotional version. If you feel you can write neutrally about the topic, please start again from scratch. <a href="/wiki/User:Deb" title="User:Deb">Deb</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Deb#c-Deb-20241007111500-Zohaib_Alee-20241007092700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:15, 7 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Deb-20241007111500-Zohaib_Alee-20241007092700"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Deb-20241007111500-Zohaib_Alee-20241007092700"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Zohaib_Alee-20241009154900-Deb-20241007111500"></span>I am planning to start the article from scratch but, the page with this name is unavailable. That’s why I am kindly requesting you to restore the draft so I can recreate it under the same name.</dd> <dd>If the decision regarding the restoration is final, I would appreciate your guidance on how to write a new article with the same name. I’ve researched extensively, but I haven’t found any other way to proceed, as it is mentioned everywhere that the editor who deleted the article should be consulted first. <a href="/wiki/User:Zohaib_Alee" title="User:Zohaib Alee">Zohaib Alee</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Zohaib_Alee" title="User talk:Zohaib Alee">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Deb#c-Zohaib_Alee-20241009154900-Deb-20241007111500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:49, 9 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Zohaib_Alee-20241009154900-Deb-20241007111500"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Zohaib_Alee-20241009154900-Deb-20241007111500"></span> <dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Deb-20241009155300-Zohaib_Alee-20241009154900"></span>What you say about the name of the draft is completely untrue. If you can't write a neutral draft in accordance with the guidelines, I suggest you give up on it. You've also been told multiple times to declare your connection with the companies you are working for, and you have repeatedly ignored this instruction. I am now going to block you from my Talk page so that you can't keep coming back here hoping for a different answer to the same question. <a href="/wiki/User:Deb" title="User:Deb">Deb</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Deb#c-Deb-20241009155300-Zohaib_Alee-20241009154900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:53, 9 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Deb-20241009155300-Zohaib_Alee-20241009154900"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Deb-20241009155300-Zohaib_Alee-20241009154900"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="AadiExplore_block" data-mw-thread-id="h-AadiExplore_block-20241004134400"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-AadiExplore_block-20241004134400"></span>AadiExplore block<span data-mw-comment-end="h-AadiExplore_block-20241004134400"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Deb&action=edit&section=96" title="Edit section: AadiExplore block"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Velella-20241004134400-AadiExplore_block"></span>Hi Deb, The block of AadiExplore seems very appropriate. I did link the user in a Sock report about RS ArticleArchitect <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Sockpuppet_investigations/RS_ArticleArchitect">here</a> but malformed it and it had already been processed before I noticed my mistake. Is there any mileage also looking at potential socking and perhaps sleepers? There seem so many new editors swaming round some of these new articles that it looks like a big sock farm in operation. I suspect that if I report it, an admin will slap it down with "already blocked" which may leave socks and sleepers still out there. Any actions you think appropriate would be great, and if this is innapropriate, apologies. Many thanks <span style="background-color:lightblue"><i><b> <a href="/wiki/User:Velella" title="User:Velella">Velella</a> </b></i></span><span style="background-color:lightblue"> <sup><i><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Velella" title="User talk:Velella">Velella</a> Talk </i></sup> </span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Deb#c-Velella-20241004134400-AadiExplore_block" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:44, 4 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Velella-20241004134400-AadiExplore_block"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Velella-20241004134400-AadiExplore_block"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Deb-20241004142400-Velella-20241004134400"></span>There's probably, or rather definitely, more than one sock farm in operation. I wouldn't hesitate to report anything you think is suspicious. You need to have <i>some</i> evidence, but this can simply consist of editing patterns. <a href="/wiki/User:Deb" title="User:Deb">Deb</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Deb#c-Deb-20241004142400-Velella-20241004134400" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:24, 4 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Deb-20241004142400-Velella-20241004134400"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Deb-20241004142400-Velella-20241004134400"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Tarun_Pal" data-mw-thread-id="h-Tarun_Pal-20241007155400"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Tarun_Pal-20241007155400"></span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Tarun_Pal&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Tarun Pal (page does not exist)">Tarun Pal</a><span data-mw-comment-end="h-Tarun_Pal-20241007155400"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Deb&action=edit&section=97" title="Edit section: Tarun Pal"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Bobby_Cohn-20241007155400-Tarun_Pal"></span>I know you've protected <a href="/w/index.php?title=Draft:Tarun_Pal&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Draft:Tarun Pal (page does not exist)">Draft:Tarun Pal</a>, any chance you want to take a look at doing the same at <a href="/w/index.php?title=Tarun_Pal&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Tarun Pal (page does not exist)">Tarun Pal</a>. Thanks, <a href="/wiki/User:Bobby_Cohn" title="User:Bobby Cohn">Bobby Cohn</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Bobby_Cohn" title="User talk:Bobby Cohn">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Deb#c-Bobby_Cohn-20241007155400-Tarun_Pal" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:54, 7 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Bobby_Cohn-20241007155400-Tarun_Pal"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Bobby_Cohn-20241007155400-Tarun_Pal"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Precious_anniversary" data-mw-thread-id="h-Precious_anniversary-20241015080500"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Precious_anniversary-20241015080500"></span>Precious anniversary<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Precious_anniversary-20241015080500"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Deb&action=edit&section=98" title="Edit section: Precious anniversary"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Gerda_Arendt-20241015080500-Precious_anniversary"></span><style data-mw-deduplicate="TemplateStyles:r1126788409">.mw-parser-output .plainlist ol,.mw-parser-output .plainlist ul{line-height:inherit;list-style:none;margin:0;padding:0}.mw-parser-output .plainlist ol li,.mw-parser-output .plainlist ul li{margin-bottom:0}</style><style data-mw-deduplicate="TemplateStyles:r1257001546">.mw-parser-output .infobox-subbox{padding:0;border:none;margin:-3px;width:auto;min-width:100%;font-size:100%;clear:none;float:none;background-color:transparent}.mw-parser-output .infobox-3cols-child{margin:auto}.mw-parser-output .infobox .navbar{font-size:100%}@media screen{html.skin-theme-clientpref-night .mw-parser-output .infobox-full-data:not(.notheme)>div:not(.notheme)[style]{background:#1f1f23!important;color:#f8f9fa}}@media screen and (prefers-color-scheme:dark){html.skin-theme-clientpref-os .mw-parser-output .infobox-full-data:not(.notheme) div:not(.notheme){background:#1f1f23!important;color:#f8f9fa}}@media(min-width:640px){body.skin--responsive .mw-parser-output .infobox-table{display:table!important}body.skin--responsive .mw-parser-output .infobox-table>caption{display:table-caption!important}body.skin--responsive .mw-parser-output .infobox-table>tbody{display:table-row-group}body.skin--responsive .mw-parser-output .infobox-table tr{display:table-row!important}body.skin--responsive .mw-parser-output .infobox-table th,body.skin--responsive .mw-parser-output .infobox-table td{padding-left:inherit;padding-right:inherit}}</style><table class="infobox nowrap plainlist" style="width:auto; background-color:#ddd; border:5px solid #ddd; box-shadow:0.1em 0.1em 0.5em rgba(0,0,0,0.75); border-radius:0.5em;"><caption class="infobox-title">Precious</caption><tbody><tr><td colspan="2" class="infobox-image"><span class="mw-default-size" typeof="mw:File/Frameless"><a href="/wiki/File:Cornflower_blue_Yogo_sapphire.jpg" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/1d/Cornflower_blue_Yogo_sapphire.jpg/100px-Cornflower_blue_Yogo_sapphire.jpg" decoding="async" width="100" height="120" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/1d/Cornflower_blue_Yogo_sapphire.jpg/150px-Cornflower_blue_Yogo_sapphire.jpg 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/1d/Cornflower_blue_Yogo_sapphire.jpg/200px-Cornflower_blue_Yogo_sapphire.jpg 2x" data-file-width="1490" data-file-height="1792"/></a></span></td></tr><tr><th colspan="2" class="infobox-header"><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Quality_Article_Improvement/Precious#Deb" title="Wikipedia:WikiProject Quality Article Improvement/Precious">Six years!</a></th></tr></tbody></table> <p>--<a href="/wiki/User:Gerda_Arendt" title="User:Gerda Arendt">Gerda Arendt</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Gerda_Arendt" title="User talk:Gerda Arendt">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Deb#c-Gerda_Arendt-20241015080500-Precious_anniversary" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">08:05, 15 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Gerda_Arendt-20241015080500-Precious_anniversary"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Gerda_Arendt-20241015080500-Precious_anniversary"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Requesting_Deleted_Material_for_Draft:_Intoact_International" data-mw-thread-id="h-Requesting_Deleted_Material_for_Draft:_Intoact_International-20241018113100"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Requesting_Deleted_Material_for_Draft:_Intoact_International-20241018113100"></span>Requesting Deleted Material for Draft: Intoact International<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Requesting_Deleted_Material_for_Draft:_Intoact_International-20241018113100"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Deb&action=edit&section=99" title="Edit section: Requesting Deleted Material for Draft: Intoact International"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Shahine_Freiha-20241018113100-Requesting_Deleted_Material_for_Draft:_Intoact_International"></span>Hi @<a href="/wiki/User:Deb" title="User:Deb">Deb</a>, </p><p>I am new to the Wikipedia scene and would appreciate your help. </p><p>I understand the reason that my draft was deleted; however, I was not previously aware of it. We had issues that were presumably solved last time around, which is why I submitted the draft for publishing. </p><p>Nevertheless, I would appreciate it if I could have the deleted material for the article for my future reference and optimization. </p><p>Thank you. If this is not the right way to reach out to you, I apologize; as I said earlier, I am new to the scene. Thanks for understanding. - <a href="/wiki/User:Shahine_Freiha" title="User:Shahine Freiha">Shahine Freiha</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Shahine_Freiha" title="User talk:Shahine Freiha">talk</a>) <a href="/wiki/User:Shahine_Freiha" title="User:Shahine Freiha">Shahine Freiha</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Shahine_Freiha" title="User talk:Shahine Freiha">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Deb#c-Shahine_Freiha-20241018113100-Requesting_Deleted_Material_for_Draft:_Intoact_International" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:31, 18 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Shahine_Freiha-20241018113100-Requesting_Deleted_Material_for_Draft:_Intoact_International"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Shahine_Freiha-20241018113100-Requesting_Deleted_Material_for_Draft:_Intoact_International"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Deb-20241018132100-Shahine_Freiha-20241018113100"></span>As an employee of a "Digital Marketing training and consulting company", I don't think it's unreasonable to expect you to read the Wikipedia guidelines before trying to create an article - as all new users are advised to do. I won't be restoring the promotional material; if you want to create this article you have to do the work, and I highly recommend you start from scratch, this time following the guidelines to which you've been referred. No one except your colleagues is paid to sort this problem out for you. <a href="/wiki/User:Deb" title="User:Deb">Deb</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Deb#c-Deb-20241018132100-Shahine_Freiha-20241018113100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:21, 18 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Deb-20241018132100-Shahine_Freiha-20241018113100"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Deb-20241018132100-Shahine_Freiha-20241018113100"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Shahine_Freiha-20241023074000-Deb-20241018132100"></span>Hi again, @<a href="/wiki/User:Deb" title="User:Deb">Deb</a>. Thank you for your response.</dd> <dd>I understand that the content does not fit within Wikipedia's guidelines. However, I would appreciate it if you could let me restore the content for my personal reference, as it will not be used for Wikipedia in any way, shape, or form. <a href="/wiki/User:Shahine_Freiha" title="User:Shahine Freiha">Shahine Freiha</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Shahine_Freiha" title="User talk:Shahine Freiha">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Deb#c-Shahine_Freiha-20241023074000-Deb-20241018132100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">07:40, 23 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Shahine_Freiha-20241023074000-Deb-20241018132100"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Shahine_Freiha-20241023074000-Deb-20241018132100"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Deb-20241023153100-Shahine_Freiha-20241023074000"></span>You mean you didn't keep a copy on your own PC? That was very short-signed of you. But if you want it restored, you'll need to ask someone else. <a href="/wiki/User:Deb" title="User:Deb">Deb</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Deb#c-Deb-20241023153100-Shahine_Freiha-20241023074000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:31, 23 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Deb-20241023153100-Shahine_Freiha-20241023074000"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Deb-20241023153100-Shahine_Freiha-20241023074000"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Blocked_user_requesting_IP_unblock" data-mw-thread-id="h-Blocked_user_requesting_IP_unblock-20241019023500"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Blocked_user_requesting_IP_unblock-20241019023500"></span>Blocked user requesting IP unblock<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Blocked_user_requesting_IP_unblock-20241019023500"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Deb&action=edit&section=100" title="Edit section: Blocked user requesting IP unblock"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Drm310-20241019023500-Blocked_user_requesting_IP_unblock"></span>Hi Deb. You spamublock-ed the user <span class="plainlinks"><a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Onpointmarketing">Onpointmarketing</a></span> (thank you, BTW). After some discussion with the user, they agreed to abandon the account. However, they also said that <span class="plainlinks"><a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=&diff=prev&oldid=1251894977">they would like their IP unblocked</a></span> "for our staff's break time to write non-onPoint content". What do you think? Do you trust them? --<a href="/wiki/User:Drm310" title="User:Drm310">Drm310</a> <span style="color:red">🍁</span> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Drm310" title="User talk:Drm310">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Deb#c-Drm310-20241019023500-Blocked_user_requesting_IP_unblock" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">02:35, 19 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Drm310-20241019023500-Blocked_user_requesting_IP_unblock"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Drm310-20241019023500-Blocked_user_requesting_IP_unblock"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Deb-20241019112100-Drm310-20241019023500"></span>Definitely not. Their staff can create their own IDs - and if more than one person is using the same computer, that would be far safer for them as well as for us. <a href="/wiki/User:Deb" title="User:Deb">Deb</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Deb#c-Deb-20241019112100-Drm310-20241019023500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:21, 19 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Deb-20241019112100-Drm310-20241019023500"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Deb-20241019112100-Drm310-20241019023500"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Invitation_to_participate_in_a_research" data-mw-thread-id="h-Invitation_to_participate_in_a_research-20241023192100"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Invitation_to_participate_in_a_research-20241023192100"></span>Invitation to participate in a research<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Invitation_to_participate_in_a_research-20241023192100"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Deb&action=edit&section=101" title="Edit section: Invitation to participate in a research"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-BGerdemann_(WMF)-20241023192100-Invitation_to_participate_in_a_research"></span>Hello, </p><p>The Wikimedia Foundation is conducting a survey of Wikipedians to better understand what draws administrators to contribute to Wikipedia, and what affects administrator retention. We will use this research to improve experiences for Wikipedians, and address common problems and needs. We have identified you as a good candidate for this research, and would greatly appreciate your participation in this <b><a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://wikimediafoundation.limesurvey.net/294789?lang=en">anonymous survey</a></b>. </p><p>You do not have to be an Administrator to participate. </p><p>The survey should take around 10-15 minutes to complete. You may read more about the study on its <a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Research:Wikipedia_Administrator_Recruitment,_Retention,_and_Attrition" class="extiw" title="m:Special:MyLanguage/Research:Wikipedia Administrator Recruitment, Retention, and Attrition">Meta page</a> and view its <a href="https://foundation.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Legal:Administrator_Experiences_2024_Survey_Privacy_Statement" class="extiw" title="wmf:Special:MyLanguage/Legal:Administrator Experiences 2024 Survey Privacy Statement">privacy statement</a> . </p><p>Please find our contact on the project Meta page if you have any questions or concerns. </p><p>Kind Regards, </p><p><a href="https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Wikimedia_Research" class="extiw" title="mw:Special:MyLanguage/Wikimedia Research">WMF Research Team</a> </p><p><bdi lang="en" dir="ltr"><a href="/wiki/User:BGerdemann_(WMF)" title="User:BGerdemann (WMF)">BGerdemann (WMF)</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:BGerdemann_(WMF)" title="User talk:BGerdemann (WMF)">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Deb#c-BGerdemann_(WMF)-20241023192100-Invitation_to_participate_in_a_research" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:21, 23 October 2024 (UTC)</a> </bdi><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-BGerdemann_(WMF)-20241023192100-Invitation_to_participate_in_a_research"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-BGerdemann_(WMF)-20241023192100-Invitation_to_participate_in_a_research"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Vecteezy_-_I'm_sorry!" data-mw-thread-id="h-Vecteezy_-_I'm_sorry!-20241028034000"><span id="Vecteezy_-_I.27m_sorry.21"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Vecteezy_-_I'm_sorry!-20241028034000"></span>Vecteezy - I'm sorry!<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Vecteezy_-_I'm_sorry!-20241028034000"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Deb&action=edit&section=102" title="Edit section: Vecteezy - I'm sorry!"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Little_cap-20241028034000-Vecteezy_-_I'm_sorry!"></span>Hi Deb. I'm sorry I didn't follow the proper procedure for the latest drafting of the Vecteezy article. I know that the article has had a bit of sordid history and should have been more careful. I've been slowly working on other articles in the vector graphic space and I wanted to see if this article could ultimately be salvaged. I thought it was possible since the (second?) AfD spurred many <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Vecteezy_(2nd_nomination)" title="Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Vecteezy (2nd nomination)">great suggestions from other editors</a>. At the very least, I should have used the underconstruction template in the draft when I asked for feedback. </p><p>Is there any chance of a reprieve here for the draft with the correct templates in place? I know my edits to Wikipedia aren't as <i>academic</i> as I wish they were - I guess I'm not as cultured as I could be. :-/ But! I aim for my contributions about commercial entities and products to always conform to NPOV, notability standards, etc., and try to balance writing that could feel "promotional" with mentions of any controversies reported by upstanding news sources. </p><p>Thank you for your time and consideration. :) <a href="/wiki/User:Little_cap" title="User:Little cap">Little cap</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Little_cap" title="User talk:Little cap">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Deb#c-Little_cap-20241028034000-Vecteezy_-_I'm_sorry!" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">03:40, 28 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Little_cap-20241028034000-Vecteezy_-_I'm_sorry!"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Little_cap-20241028034000-Vecteezy_-_I'm_sorry!"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Women_in_Red_November_2024" data-mw-thread-id="h-Women_in_Red_November_2024-20241029204500"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Women_in_Red_November_2024-20241029204500"></span>Women in Red November 2024<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Women_in_Red_November_2024-20241029204500"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Deb&action=edit&section=103" title="Edit section: Women in Red November 2024"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <table style="border: 5px solid #ABCDEF ; background-color: #FFFFFF;"> <tbody><tr> <td rowspan="2" style="vertical-align:middle;"> </td> <td rowspan="2"> </td> <td style="padding: 0; vertical-align: middle; height: 1.1em;"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Lajmmoore-20241029204500-Women_in_Red_November_2024"></span><figure class="mw-halign-right" typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:WiR_engineering_logo.png" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/f6/WiR_engineering_logo.png/100px-WiR_engineering_logo.png" decoding="async" width="100" height="91" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/f6/WiR_engineering_logo.png/150px-WiR_engineering_logo.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/f6/WiR_engineering_logo.png/200px-WiR_engineering_logo.png 2x" data-file-width="748" data-file-height="682"/></a><figcaption></figcaption></figure><b><big><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Women_in_Red" title="Wikipedia:WikiProject Women in Red">Women in Red</a></big></b> <big>|</big> <small>November 2024, Vol 10, Issue 11, Nos 293, 294, 321, 322, 323</small> <p><br/> </p><p><b>Online events:</b> </p> <ul><li><i>New</i>: <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Women_in_Red/Meetup/321" title="Wikipedia:WikiProject Women in Red/Meetup/321">Asian women</a> <big>|</big> <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Women_in_Red/Meetup/322" title="Wikipedia:WikiProject Women in Red/Meetup/322">Geofocus: Islands Q-Z </a> <big>|</big> <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Women_in_Red/Meetup/323" title="Wikipedia:WikiProject Women in Red/Meetup/323">Women in engineering</a></li></ul> <ul><li><i>Continuing</i>: <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Women_in_Red/Meetup/293" title="Wikipedia:WikiProject Women in Red/Meetup/293">#1day1woman</a> <big>|</big> <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Women_in_Red/Meetup/294" title="Wikipedia:WikiProject Women in Red/Meetup/294">Education</a> <small>(year-long initiative)</small></li></ul> <p><b>Announcements from other communities</b> </p> <ul><li>Annual <a class="external text" href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_Asian_Month_2024">Wikipedia Asian Month (WAM)</a> is an online campaign designed to boost <br/>Asian content on Wikipedia each November.</li> <li><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Unreferenced_articles/Backlog_drives/November_2024" title="Wikipedia:WikiProject Unreferenced articles/Backlog drives/November 2024">Unreferenced articles backlog drive</a>. These Wikiproject clean-up lists offer a start <br/>to November's backlog drive, e.g. <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://bambots.brucemyers.com/cwb/bycat/Women%27s_History.html#Cites%20no%20sources">Women's History</a> and <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://bambots.brucemyers.com/cwb/bycat/Women_writers2.html#Cites%20no%20sources">Women writers</a></li></ul> <p><b>Tip of the month:</b> </p> <ul><li><i>Looking for an image? Sometimes you can find openly licensed images at <br/><a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://search.creativecommons.org/">search.creativecommons.org/</a></i></li></ul> <p><b>Other ways to participate:</b> </p> <ul><li><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Women_in_Red/New_members" title="Wikipedia:WikiProject Women in Red/New members">Become a member</a>. You can always <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Women_in_Red/Outreach/List" title="Wikipedia:WikiProject Women in Red/Outreach/List">opt-out of notifications</a>.</li> <li><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Women_in_Red" title="Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Women in Red">Join the conversations on our talkpage</a>.</li> <li><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Women_in_Red/Ideas" title="Wikipedia:WikiProject Women in Red/Ideas">Help us plan future events</a> and add any general ideas on developing the project.</li> <li>Follow us on social media:</li></ul> <p><span typeof="mw:File/Frameless"><a href="/wiki/File:Instagram.svg" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/96/Instagram.svg/15px-Instagram.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/96/Instagram.svg/23px-Instagram.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/96/Instagram.svg/30px-Instagram.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="512" data-file-height="512"/></a></span> <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://instagram.com/wikiwomeninred">Instagram</a> <b>|</b> <span typeof="mw:File/Frameless"><a href="/wiki/File:Pinterest_Shiny_Icon.svg" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/f2/Pinterest_Shiny_Icon.svg/15px-Pinterest_Shiny_Icon.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/f2/Pinterest_Shiny_Icon.svg/23px-Pinterest_Shiny_Icon.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/f2/Pinterest_Shiny_Icon.svg/30px-Pinterest_Shiny_Icon.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="256" data-file-height="256"/></a></span> <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.pinterest.com/wikiwomeninred/boards/">Pinterest</a> <b>|</b> <span typeof="mw:File/Frameless"><a href="/wiki/File:Twitter_icon.png" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/f3/Twitter_icon.png/15px-Twitter_icon.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/f3/Twitter_icon.png/23px-Twitter_icon.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/f3/Twitter_icon.png/30px-Twitter_icon.png 2x" data-file-width="436" data-file-height="436"/></a></span> <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://twitter.com/WikiWomenInRed">Twitter/X</a> </p> </td></tr></tbody></table> <p>--<a href="/wiki/User:Lajmmoore" title="User:Lajmmoore">Lajmmoore</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Lajmmoore" title="User talk:Lajmmoore">talk</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Deb#c-Lajmmoore-20241029204500-Women_in_Red_November_2024" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:45, 29 October 2024 (UTC)</a> via MassMessaging<span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Lajmmoore-20241029204500-Women_in_Red_November_2024"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Lajmmoore-20241029204500-Women_in_Red_November_2024"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="This_may_interest_you" data-mw-thread-id="h-This_may_interest_you-20241030170000"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-This_may_interest_you-20241030170000"></span>This may interest you<span data-mw-comment-end="h-This_may_interest_you-20241030170000"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Deb&action=edit&section=104" title="Edit section: This may interest you"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><a href="/wiki/Draft:Onyebuchi_Chris_Ifediora_Foundation" title="Draft:Onyebuchi Chris Ifediora Foundation"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Timtrent-20241030170000-This_may_interest_you"></span>Draft:Onyebuchi Chris Ifediora Foundation</a> has reappeared. In August you gave the creating editor a final warning over advertising. Since I did not see their original efforts I thought you might wish to take a look. 🇺🇦 <a href="/wiki/User:Timtrent" title="User:Timtrent"><span style="color:#800">Fiddle</span><sup><small>Timtrent</small></sup></a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Timtrent" title="User talk:Timtrent"><span style="color:#070">Faddle</span><sup><small>Talk to me</small></sup></a> 🇺🇦 <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Deb#c-Timtrent-20241030170000-This_may_interest_you" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:00, 30 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Timtrent-20241030170000-This_may_interest_you"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Timtrent-20241030170000-This_may_interest_you"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Deb-20241105092500-Timtrent-20241030170000"></span>Thanks. Sorry I wasn't here to deal with it. <a href="/wiki/User:Deb" title="User:Deb">Deb</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Deb#c-Deb-20241105092500-Timtrent-20241030170000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:25, 5 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Deb-20241105092500-Timtrent-20241030170000"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Deb-20241105092500-Timtrent-20241030170000"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Administrators'_newsletter_–_November_2024" data-mw-thread-id="h-Administrators'_newsletter_–_November_2024-20241103102000"><span id="Administrators.27_newsletter_.E2.80.93_November_2024"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Administrators'_newsletter_–_November_2024-20241103102000"></span>Administrators' newsletter – November 2024<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Administrators'_newsletter_–_November_2024-20241103102000"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Deb&action=edit&section=105" title="Edit section: Administrators' newsletter – November 2024"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Administrators%27_newsletter" title="Wikipedia:Administrators' newsletter"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-MediaWiki_message_delivery-20241103102000-Administrators'_newsletter_–_November_2024"></span>News and updates for administrators</a> from the past month (October 2024). </p> <figure class="mw-halign-right" typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:ANEWSicon.png" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/62/ANEWSicon.png/150px-ANEWSicon.png" decoding="async" width="150" height="151" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/62/ANEWSicon.png/225px-ANEWSicon.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/62/ANEWSicon.png/300px-ANEWSicon.png 2x" data-file-width="596" data-file-height="600"/></a><figcaption></figcaption></figure> <p><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Wikipedia_Administrator.svg" class="mw-file-description"><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/d1/Wikipedia_Administrator.svg/20px-Wikipedia_Administrator.svg.png" decoding="async" width="20" height="20" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/d1/Wikipedia_Administrator.svg/30px-Wikipedia_Administrator.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/d1/Wikipedia_Administrator.svg/40px-Wikipedia_Administrator.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="200" data-file-height="200"/></a></span> <b>Administrator changes</b> </p> <dl><dd><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Gnome-colors-view-refresh.svg" class="mw-file-description" title="Readded"><img alt="readded" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/f4/Gnome-colors-view-refresh.svg/20px-Gnome-colors-view-refresh.svg.png" decoding="async" width="20" height="20" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/f4/Gnome-colors-view-refresh.svg/30px-Gnome-colors-view-refresh.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/f4/Gnome-colors-view-refresh.svg/40px-Gnome-colors-view-refresh.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="48" data-file-height="48"/></a></span> <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1129693374"><div class="hlist inline"><ul><li><a href="/wiki/Special:PermanentLink/1248966496#Resysop_request_(Crisco_1492)" title="Special:PermanentLink/1248966496">Crisco 1492</a></li></ul></div></dd> <dd><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Gnome-colors-list-remove.svg" class="mw-file-description" title="Removed"><img alt="removed" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/f8/Gnome-colors-list-remove.svg/20px-Gnome-colors-list-remove.svg.png" decoding="async" width="20" height="20" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/f8/Gnome-colors-list-remove.svg/30px-Gnome-colors-list-remove.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/f8/Gnome-colors-list-remove.svg/40px-Gnome-colors-list-remove.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="48" data-file-height="48"/></a></span> <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1129693374"><div class="hlist inline"><ul><li><a href="/wiki/Special:PermanentLink/1248791416#Inactive_admins_for_October_2024" title="Special:PermanentLink/1248791416">Babajobu</a></li><li><a href="/wiki/Special:PermanentLink/1254200257#Desysop_request_(Daniel)" title="Special:PermanentLink/1254200257">Daniel</a></li><li><a href="/wiki/Special:PermanentLink/1248791416#Inactive_admins_for_October_2024" title="Special:PermanentLink/1248791416">Elf</a></li><li><a href="/wiki/Special:PermanentLink/1248791416#Inactive_admins_for_October_2024" title="Special:PermanentLink/1248791416">Jayron32</a></li><li><a href="/wiki/Special:PermanentLink/1249813284#De-adminship_request_for_Thue" title="Special:PermanentLink/1249813284">Thue</a></li><li><a href="/wiki/Special:PermanentLink/1248753311#Desysop_request_(Wugapodes)" title="Special:PermanentLink/1248753311">Wugapodes</a></li></ul></div></dd></dl> <p><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Checkuser_Logo.svg" class="mw-file-description"><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/4/49/Checkuser_Logo.svg/20px-Checkuser_Logo.svg.png" decoding="async" width="20" height="20" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/4/49/Checkuser_Logo.svg/30px-Checkuser_Logo.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/4/49/Checkuser_Logo.svg/40px-Checkuser_Logo.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="110" data-file-height="110"/></a></span> <b>CheckUser changes</b> </p> <dl><dd><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Gnome-colors-list-remove.svg" class="mw-file-description" title="Removed"><img alt="removed" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/f8/Gnome-colors-list-remove.svg/20px-Gnome-colors-list-remove.svg.png" decoding="async" width="20" height="20" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/f8/Gnome-colors-list-remove.svg/30px-Gnome-colors-list-remove.svg.png 1.5x, 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class="mw-file-description" title="Removed"><img alt="removed" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/f8/Gnome-colors-list-remove.svg/20px-Gnome-colors-list-remove.svg.png" decoding="async" width="20" height="20" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/f8/Gnome-colors-list-remove.svg/30px-Gnome-colors-list-remove.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/f8/Gnome-colors-list-remove.svg/40px-Gnome-colors-list-remove.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="48" data-file-height="48"/></a></span> <a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:Permalink/27564949#Maxim@en.wikipedia" class="extiw" title="meta:Special:Permalink/27564949">Maxim</a></dd></dl> <p><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Green_check.svg" class="mw-file-description"><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/03/Green_check.svg/20px-Green_check.svg.png" decoding="async" width="20" height="20" class="mw-file-element" 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Thank you. — <a href="/wiki/User:Rsjaffe" title="User:Rsjaffe"><b style="font-family:Papyrus;color:DarkSlateGrey;">rsjaffe</b></a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Rsjaffe" title="User talk:Rsjaffe">🗣️</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Deb#c-Rsjaffe-20241123224600-Notice_of_noticeboard_discussion" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:46, 23 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Rsjaffe-20241123224600-Notice_of_noticeboard_discussion"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Rsjaffe-20241123224600-Notice_of_noticeboard_discussion"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Norwegian/Scandinavian_music_categories" data-mw-thread-id="h-Norwegian/Scandinavian_music_categories-20241127014000"><span id="Norwegian.2FScandinavian_music_categories"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Norwegian/Scandinavian_music_categories-20241127014000"></span>Norwegian/Scandinavian music categories<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Norwegian/Scandinavian_music_categories-20241127014000"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Deb&action=edit&section=110" title="Edit section: Norwegian/Scandinavian music categories"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Liz-20241127014000-Norwegian/Scandinavian_music_categories"></span>Hello, Deb, </p><p>I see that you did some page title changing for a few articles. If you look at <a href="/wiki/Category:1900s_in_Norwegian_music" title="Category:1900s in Norwegian music">Category:1900s in Norwegian music</a>, you'll that we have a long record of these music articles being categorized as Norwegian music, not Scandinavian music. Until today, the only years in Scandinavian music pages started in the 2015, as you can see in this category <a href="/wiki/Category:Scandinavian_culture" title="Category:Scandinavian culture">Category:Scandinavian culture</a>. </p><p>So these moves for 1903 and 1904 are in conflict with our existing categorization hierarchy. Would you consider moving these two articles back to their original titles? Or, on the other hand, you could take the hundreds of Norwegian music categories (see <a href="/wiki/Category:Norwegian_music_by_decade" title="Category:Norwegian music by decade">Category:Norwegian music by decade</a>) to <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:CFD" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:CFD">CFD</a> and have them all renamed to Scandinavian music titles in a recategorization move. Because right now, 1903 and 1904 are outliers here. Thank you. <span style="font-family:Papyrus; color:#800080;"><a href="/wiki/User:Liz" title="User:Liz"><i><b>L</b></i>iz</a></span> <sup style="font-family: Times New Roman; color: #006400;"><a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Liz" title="Special:Contributions/Liz"><i><b>Read!</b></i></a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Liz" title="User talk:Liz"><i><b>Talk!</b></i></a></sup> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Deb#c-Liz-20241127014000-Norwegian/Scandinavian_music_categories" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">01:40, 27 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Liz-20241127014000-Norwegian/Scandinavian_music_categories"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Liz-20241127014000-Norwegian/Scandinavian_music_categories"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Deb-20241127092000-Liz-20241127014000"></span>Yes, that's perfectly true. The contributor who created the Norwegian music articles was blocked a long time ago (nothing to do with me). One of the reasons I started the "Scandinavian music" series was because I believed that there was some value in retaining the material he'd created, even though I didn't always agree with the way he presented them. However, there are no pages for Norwegian music after 2019, simply because no one has been interested enough to create them, just as there was no one in the past who contributed to Years in Norwegian music apart from the one blocked user. If you feel there's value in retaining the older pages, by all means I can restore the versions that existed before I made the moves, but I will still be creating pages for Scandinavian music, which will contain more detail and be more useful. <a href="/wiki/User:Deb" title="User:Deb">Deb</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Deb#c-Deb-20241127092000-Liz-20241127014000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:20, 27 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Deb-20241127092000-Liz-20241127014000"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Deb-20241127092000-Liz-20241127014000"></span></dd></dl>    </div><noscript><img src="https://login.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:CentralAutoLogin/start?type=1x1" alt="" width="1" height="1" style="border: none; position: absolute;"></noscript> <div class="printfooter" data-nosnippet="">Retrieved from "<a dir="ltr" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Deb&oldid=1259834618">https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Deb&oldid=1259834618</a>"</div></div> <div id="catlinks" class="catlinks catlinks-allhidden" data-mw="interface"></div> </div> </main> </div> <div class="mw-footer-container"> <footer id="footer" class="mw-footer" > <ul id="footer-info"> <li id="footer-info-lastmod"> This page was last edited on 27 November 2024, at 09:20<span class="anonymous-show"> (UTC)</span>.</li> <li id="footer-info-copyright">Text is available under the <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Text_of_the_Creative_Commons_Attribution-ShareAlike_4.0_International_License" title="Wikipedia:Text of the Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike 4.0 International License">Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike 4.0 License</a>; additional terms may apply. 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