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ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-194.38.172.194-20241001091700&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-Draft:Speaking_community_to_trans_atlantic_african_slaves_traded_ratio-20241001091700&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-194.38.172.194-20241001091700-Draft:Speaking_community_to_trans_atlantic_african_slaves_traded_ratio&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Draft:Speaking community to trans atlantic african slaves traded ratio&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;Draft:Speaking community to trans atlantic african slaves traded ratio&quot;}--><h2 id="Draft:Speaking_community_to_trans_atlantic_african_slaves_traded_ratio" data-mw-thread-id="h-Draft:Speaking_community_to_trans_atlantic_african_slaves_traded_ratio-20241001091700"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Draft:Speaking_community_to_trans_atlantic_african_slaves_traded_ratio-20241001091700"></span>Draft:Speaking community to trans atlantic african slaves traded ratio<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Draft:Speaking_community_to_trans_atlantic_african_slaves_traded_ratio-20241001091700"></span></h2><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-194.38.172.194-20241001091700","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Draft:Speaking_community_to_trans_atlantic_african_slaves_traded_ratio-20241001091700","replies":["c-194.38.172.194-20241001091700-Draft:Speaking_community_to_trans_atlantic_african_slaves_traded_ratio"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-194.38.172.194-20241105122400-Qcne-20241105112200","timestamp":"20241105122400"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__3__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__2__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-194.38.172.194-20241001091700&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-Draft:Speaking_community_to_trans_atlantic_african_slaves_traded_ratio-20241001091700&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-194.38.172.194-20241001091700-Draft:Speaking_community_to_trans_atlantic_african_slaves_traded_ratio&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Draft:Speaking community to trans atlantic african slaves traded ratio&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;Draft:Speaking community to trans atlantic african slaves traded ratio&quot;}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-194.38.172.194-20241001091700-Draft:Speaking_community_to_trans_atlantic_african_slaves_traded_ratio"></span>Dear Qcne, I would greatly appreciate it if you could provide me with some feedback on why my article did not meet the acceptance criteria. I would be grateful for any guidance you can offer to help me improve it. Thank you for your time and dedication. <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/194.38.172.194" title="Special:Contributions/194.38.172.194">194.38.172.194</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:194.38.172.194" title="User talk:194.38.172.194">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Qcne#c-194.38.172.194-20241001091700-Draft:Speaking_community_to_trans_atlantic_african_slaves_traded_ratio" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:17, 1 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-194.38.172.194-20241001091700-Draft:Speaking_community_to_trans_atlantic_african_slaves_traded_ratio"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241001091700","author":"194.38.172.194","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-194.38.172.194-20241001091700-Draft:Speaking_community_to_trans_atlantic_african_slaves_traded_ratio","replies":["c-Qcne-20241105112200-194.38.172.194-20241001091700"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-194.38.172.194-20241001091700-Draft:Speaking_community_to_trans_atlantic_african_slaves_traded_ratio"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Qcne-20241105112200-194.38.172.194-20241001091700"></span>Hi IP editor. Your draft wasn't really an encyclopaedic article: just a list of slave populations and then a ratio calculation. This isn't what Wikipedia is for, but if you can find reliable research on this topic you might be able to add to existing articles. <span style="background-color: RoyalBlue; border-radius: 1em; padding: 3px 3px 3px 3px;"><b><a href="/wiki/User:Qcne" title="User:Qcne"><span style="color: GhostWhite">Qcne</span></a></b> <small><a class="mw-selflink selflink"><span style="color: GhostWhite">(talk)</span></a></small></span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Qcne#c-Qcne-20241105112200-194.38.172.194-20241001091700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:22, 5 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Qcne-20241105112200-194.38.172.194-20241001091700"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241105112200","author":"Qcne","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Qcne-20241105112200-194.38.172.194-20241001091700","replies":["c-194.38.172.194-20241105122400-Qcne-20241105112200"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Qcne-20241105112200-194.38.172.194-20241001091700"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-194.38.172.194-20241105122400-Qcne-20241105112200"></span>Thank you Qcne <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/194.38.172.194" title="Special:Contributions/194.38.172.194">194.38.172.194</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:194.38.172.194" title="User talk:194.38.172.194">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Qcne#c-194.38.172.194-20241105122400-Qcne-20241105112200" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:24, 5 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-194.38.172.194-20241105122400-Qcne-20241105112200"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241105122400","author":"194.38.172.194","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-194.38.172.194-20241105122400-Qcne-20241105112200","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-194.38.172.194-20241105122400-Qcne-20241105112200"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-BGerdemann_(WMF)-20241023192700&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-Invitation_to_participate_in_a_research-20241023192700&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-BGerdemann_(WMF)-20241023192700-Invitation_to_participate_in_a_research&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Invitation to participate in a research&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;Invitation to participate in a research&quot;}--><h2 id="Invitation_to_participate_in_a_research" data-mw-thread-id="h-Invitation_to_participate_in_a_research-20241023192700"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Invitation_to_participate_in_a_research-20241023192700"></span>Invitation to participate in a research<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Invitation_to_participate_in_a_research-20241023192700"></span></h2><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-BGerdemann_(WMF)-20241023192700","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Invitation_to_participate_in_a_research-20241023192700","replies":["c-BGerdemann_(WMF)-20241023192700-Invitation_to_participate_in_a_research"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-BGerdemann_(WMF)-20241023192700-Invitation_to_participate_in_a_research","timestamp":"20241023192700"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__1__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__1__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-BGerdemann_(WMF)-20241023192700&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-Invitation_to_participate_in_a_research-20241023192700&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-BGerdemann_(WMF)-20241023192700-Invitation_to_participate_in_a_research&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Invitation to participate in a research&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;Invitation to participate in a research&quot;}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-BGerdemann_(WMF)-20241023192700-Invitation_to_participate_in_a_research"></span>Hello, </p><p>The Wikimedia Foundation is conducting a survey of Wikipedians to better understand what draws administrators to contribute to Wikipedia, and what affects administrator retention. 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The sources of information I have used for this article are reputable references such as Bloomberg, Reuters and FT, so if I try to rewrite the tone of the article to be more neutral - would this still be a relevant article to submit? Is he notable enough? Thanks for your help in understanding this process. <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Domkotze&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Domkotze (page does not exist)">Domkotze</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Domkotze" title="User talk:Domkotze">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Qcne#c-Domkotze-20241101090000-Request_for_feedback_on_submission:_Benedikt_Sobotka" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:00, 1 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Domkotze-20241101090000-Request_for_feedback_on_submission:_Benedikt_Sobotka"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241101090000","author":"Domkotze","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Domkotze-20241101090000-Request_for_feedback_on_submission:_Benedikt_Sobotka","replies":["c-Qcne-20241101093700-Domkotze-20241101090000"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Domkotze-20241101090000-Request_for_feedback_on_submission:_Benedikt_Sobotka"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Qcne-20241101093700-Domkotze-20241101090000"></span>Hi @<a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Domkotze&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Domkotze (page does not exist)">Domkotze</a></dd> <dd>The first Bloomberg source 404s for me, and the other two are interviews, though there is a tiny bit of analysis in the interviews I wouldn't call them great sources as they're not independent.</dd> <dd>The two Reuters sources just parrot what he says, so aren't independent.</dd> <dd>The two FT sources are okay.</dd> <dd>However the article really does need a total re-write to be utterly neutral. Paraphrase the reliable sources in your own words but make no assertations and check out <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Manual_of_Style/Words_to_watch" title="Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Words to watch">words to avoid</a>.</dd> <dd>It would also be really helpful if you <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Bare_URLs" title="Wikipedia:Bare URLs">filled in the bare URLs in the references</a>. Check out the referencing tutorial at <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:INTREFVE" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:INTREFVE">WP:INTREFVE</a>. <span style="background-color: RoyalBlue; border-radius: 1em; padding: 3px 3px 3px 3px;"><b><a href="/wiki/User:Qcne" title="User:Qcne"><span style="color: GhostWhite">Qcne</span></a></b> <small><a class="mw-selflink selflink"><span style="color: GhostWhite">(talk)</span></a></small></span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Qcne#c-Qcne-20241101093700-Domkotze-20241101090000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:37, 1 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Qcne-20241101093700-Domkotze-20241101090000"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241101093700","author":"Qcne","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Qcne-20241101093700-Domkotze-20241101090000","replies":["c-165.73.118.91-20241104115100-Qcne-20241101093700"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Qcne-20241101093700-Domkotze-20241101090000"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-165.73.118.91-20241104115100-Qcne-20241101093700"></span>Thanks so much for the feedback @<a href="/wiki/User:Qcne" title="User:Qcne">Qcne</a>, I'll have another go at rewriting it and use relevant sources. <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/165.73.118.91" title="Special:Contributions/165.73.118.91">165.73.118.91</a> (<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:165.73.118.91&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:165.73.118.91 (page does not exist)">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Qcne#c-165.73.118.91-20241104115100-Qcne-20241101093700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:51, 4 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-165.73.118.91-20241104115100-Qcne-20241101093700"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241104115100","author":"165.73.118.91","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-165.73.118.91-20241104115100-Qcne-20241101093700","replies":["c-Qcne-20241104115400-165.73.118.91-20241104115100"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-165.73.118.91-20241104115100-Qcne-20241101093700"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Qcne-20241104115400-165.73.118.91-20241104115100"></span>No worries, let me know if you want me to have another look before you submit it for review. <span style="background-color: RoyalBlue; border-radius: 1em; padding: 3px 3px 3px 3px;"><b><a href="/wiki/User:Qcne" title="User:Qcne"><span style="color: GhostWhite">Qcne</span></a></b> <small><a class="mw-selflink selflink"><span style="color: GhostWhite">(talk)</span></a></small></span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Qcne#c-Qcne-20241104115400-165.73.118.91-20241104115100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:54, 4 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Qcne-20241104115400-165.73.118.91-20241104115100"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241104115400","author":"Qcne","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Qcne-20241104115400-165.73.118.91-20241104115100","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Qcne-20241104115400-165.73.118.91-20241104115100"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-TheUrbanArtivist-20241101162700&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-Rejected_Submission_-_Lionel_(artist)-20241101162700&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-TheUrbanArtivist-20241101162700-Rejected_Submission_-_Lionel_(artist)&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Rejected Submission - Lionel (artist)&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;Rejected Submission - Lionel (artist)&quot;}--><h2 id="Rejected_Submission_-_Lionel_(artist)" data-mw-thread-id="h-Rejected_Submission_-_Lionel_(artist)-20241101162700"><span id="Rejected_Submission_-_Lionel_.28artist.29"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Rejected_Submission_-_Lionel_(artist)-20241101162700"></span>Rejected Submission - Lionel (artist)<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Rejected_Submission_-_Lionel_(artist)-20241101162700"></span></h2><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-TheUrbanArtivist-20241101162700","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Rejected_Submission_-_Lionel_(artist)-20241101162700","replies":["c-TheUrbanArtivist-20241101162700-Rejected_Submission_-_Lionel_(artist)"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-Qcne-20241101163300-TheUrbanArtivist-20241101162700","timestamp":"20241101163300"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__2__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__2__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-TheUrbanArtivist-20241101162700&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-Rejected_Submission_-_Lionel_(artist)-20241101162700&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-TheUrbanArtivist-20241101162700-Rejected_Submission_-_Lionel_(artist)&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Rejected Submission - Lionel (artist)&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;Rejected Submission - Lionel (artist)&quot;}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-TheUrbanArtivist-20241101162700-Rejected_Submission_-_Lionel_(artist)"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:Qcne" title="User:Qcne">Qcne</a> Thanks for the feedback, it was unexpectedly prompt and very helpful (this is my first submission) </p><p>I have converted the external links to inline citations and cleaned up the writing style. Please let me know if there are any other aspects of the article you think would improve it. <a href="/wiki/User:TheUrbanArtivist" title="User:TheUrbanArtivist">TheUrbanArtivist</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:TheUrbanArtivist" title="User talk:TheUrbanArtivist">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Qcne#c-TheUrbanArtivist-20241101162700-Rejected_Submission_-_Lionel_(artist)" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:27, 1 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-TheUrbanArtivist-20241101162700-Rejected_Submission_-_Lionel_(artist)"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241101162700","author":"TheUrbanArtivist","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-TheUrbanArtivist-20241101162700-Rejected_Submission_-_Lionel_(artist)","replies":["c-Qcne-20241101163300-TheUrbanArtivist-20241101162700"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-TheUrbanArtivist-20241101162700-Rejected_Submission_-_Lionel_(artist)"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Qcne-20241101163300-TheUrbanArtivist-20241101162700"></span>Hi @<a href="/wiki/User:TheUrbanArtivist" title="User:TheUrbanArtivist">TheUrbanArtivist</a>, small point but I only declined your article (so you can improve and re-submit; rejected would be the end of the road).</dd> <dd>In any case- I'm happy with the draft now, so have accepted.</dd> <dd>Ref #16 doesn't seem to exist in the body of the text, which is why there's an error at the bottom. Could you fix?</dd> <dd>Please also add some <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:CATEGORIES" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:CATEGORIES">WP:CATEGORIES</a>. 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data-mw-thread-id="h-Where_would_you_suggest_it_be_moved?-20241104163000"><span id="Where_would_you_suggest_it_be_moved.3F"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Where_would_you_suggest_it_be_moved?-20241104163000"></span>Where would you suggest it be moved?<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Where_would_you_suggest_it_be_moved?-20241104163000"></span></h2><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Timtrent-20241104163000","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Where_would_you_suggest_it_be_moved?-20241104163000","replies":["c-Timtrent-20241104163000-Where_would_you_suggest_it_be_moved?"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-Timtrent-20241104163000-Where_would_you_suggest_it_be_moved?","timestamp":"20241104163000"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__1__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__1__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-Timtrent-20241104163000&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-Where_would_you_suggest_it_be_moved?-20241104163000&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-Timtrent-20241104163000-Where_would_you_suggest_it_be_moved?&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Where would you suggest it be moved?&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;Where would you suggest it be moved?&quot;}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Timtrent-20241104163000-Where_would_you_suggest_it_be_moved?"></span>If you have a location in mind please move it, leaving a breadcrumb trail. 🇺🇦 <a href="/wiki/User:Timtrent" title="User:Timtrent"><span style="color:#800">Fiddle</span><sup><small>Timtrent</small></sup></a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Timtrent" title="User talk:Timtrent"><span style="color:#070">Faddle</span><sup><small>Talk to me</small></sup></a> 🇺🇦 <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Qcne#c-Timtrent-20241104163000-Where_would_you_suggest_it_be_moved?" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:30, 4 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Timtrent-20241104163000-Where_would_you_suggest_it_be_moved?"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241104163000","author":"Timtrent","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Timtrent-20241104163000-Where_would_you_suggest_it_be_moved?","replies":[],"displayName":"FiddleTimtrent"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Timtrent-20241104163000-Where_would_you_suggest_it_be_moved?"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-CharlieSimpson27112014-20241105050000&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-Declined_Article-20241105050000&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-CharlieSimpson27112014-20241105050000-Declined_Article&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Declined Article&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;Declined Article&quot;}--><h2 id="Declined_Article" data-mw-thread-id="h-Declined_Article-20241105050000"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Declined_Article-20241105050000"></span>Declined Article<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Declined_Article-20241105050000"></span></h2><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-CharlieSimpson27112014-20241105050000","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Declined_Article-20241105050000","replies":["c-CharlieSimpson27112014-20241105050000-Declined_Article"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-CharlieSimpson27112014-20241105195500-Qcne-20241105084700","timestamp":"20241105195500"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__3__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__2__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-CharlieSimpson27112014-20241105050000&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-Declined_Article-20241105050000&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-CharlieSimpson27112014-20241105050000-Declined_Article&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Declined Article&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;Declined Article&quot;}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-CharlieSimpson27112014-20241105050000-Declined_Article"></span>Hi! @<a href="/wiki/User:Qcne" title="User:Qcne">Qcne</a>! I Was Wondering Why You Declined My First Real Article And Really I Don't Know Much About Him <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:CharlieSimpson27112014&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="User:CharlieSimpson27112014 (page does not exist)">CharlieSimpson27112014</a> (<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:CharlieSimpson27112014&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:CharlieSimpson27112014 (page does not exist)">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Qcne#c-CharlieSimpson27112014-20241105050000-Declined_Article" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">05:00, 5 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-CharlieSimpson27112014-20241105050000-Declined_Article"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241105050000","author":"CharlieSimpson27112014","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-CharlieSimpson27112014-20241105050000-Declined_Article","replies":["c-Qcne-20241105084700-CharlieSimpson27112014-20241105050000"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-CharlieSimpson27112014-20241105050000-Declined_Article"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Qcne-20241105084700-CharlieSimpson27112014-20241105050000"></span>Good morning @<a href="/w/index.php?title=User:CharlieSimpson27112014&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="User:CharlieSimpson27112014 (page does not exist)">CharlieSimpson27112014</a>, I am afraid that a key content policy of Wikipedia is <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Verifiability" title="Wikipedia:Verifiability">Wikipedia:Verifiability</a>. If there are no reliable sources there can be no article. <span style="background-color: RoyalBlue; border-radius: 1em; padding: 3px 3px 3px 3px;"><b><a href="/wiki/User:Qcne" title="User:Qcne"><span style="color: GhostWhite">Qcne</span></a></b> <small><a class="mw-selflink selflink"><span style="color: GhostWhite">(talk)</span></a></small></span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Qcne#c-Qcne-20241105084700-CharlieSimpson27112014-20241105050000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">08:47, 5 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Qcne-20241105084700-CharlieSimpson27112014-20241105050000"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241105084700","author":"Qcne","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Qcne-20241105084700-CharlieSimpson27112014-20241105050000","replies":["c-CharlieSimpson27112014-20241105195500-Qcne-20241105084700"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Qcne-20241105084700-CharlieSimpson27112014-20241105050000"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-CharlieSimpson27112014-20241105195500-Qcne-20241105084700"></span>I don't know how to add the sources <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:CharlieSimpson27112014&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="User:CharlieSimpson27112014 (page does not exist)">CharlieSimpson27112014</a> (<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:CharlieSimpson27112014&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:CharlieSimpson27112014 (page does not exist)">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Qcne#c-CharlieSimpson27112014-20241105195500-Qcne-20241105084700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:55, 5 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-CharlieSimpson27112014-20241105195500-Qcne-20241105084700"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241105195500","author":"CharlieSimpson27112014","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-CharlieSimpson27112014-20241105195500-Qcne-20241105084700","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-CharlieSimpson27112014-20241105195500-Qcne-20241105084700"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-Babysharkboss2-20241105195200&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-A_barnstar_for_you!-20241105195200&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-Babysharkboss2-20241105195200-A_barnstar_for_you!&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;A barnstar for you!&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;A barnstar for you!&quot;}--><h2 id="A_barnstar_for_you!" data-mw-thread-id="h-A_barnstar_for_you!-20241105195200"><span id="A_barnstar_for_you.21"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-A_barnstar_for_you!-20241105195200"></span>A barnstar for you!<span data-mw-comment-end="h-A_barnstar_for_you!-20241105195200"></span></h2><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Babysharkboss2-20241105195200","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-A_barnstar_for_you!-20241105195200","replies":["c-Babysharkboss2-20241105195200-A_barnstar_for_you!"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-Qcne-20241105204200-Babysharkboss2-20241105195200","timestamp":"20241105204200"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__2__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__2__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-Babysharkboss2-20241105195200&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-A_barnstar_for_you!-20241105195200&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-Babysharkboss2-20241105195200-A_barnstar_for_you!&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;A barnstar for you!&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;A barnstar for you!&quot;}--></div></div></div> <table style="background-color: #fdffe7; border: 1px solid #fceb92;"> <tbody><tr> <td rowspan="2" style="vertical-align: middle; padding: 5px;"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Babysharkboss2-20241105195200-A_barnstar_for_you!"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Original_Barnstar_Hires.png" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fd/Original_Barnstar_Hires.png/100px-Original_Barnstar_Hires.png" decoding="async" width="100" height="95" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fd/Original_Barnstar_Hires.png/150px-Original_Barnstar_Hires.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fd/Original_Barnstar_Hires.png/200px-Original_Barnstar_Hires.png 2x" data-file-width="2000" data-file-height="1900"/></a></span> </td> <td style="font-size: x-large; padding: 3px 3px 0 3px; height: 1.5em;"><b>The Original Barnstar</b> </td></tr> <tr> <td style="vertical-align: middle; padding: 3px;">Hope your day is unbothered! <a href="/wiki/User:Babysharkboss2" title="User:Babysharkboss2"><span style="color: red; font-family: Comic Sans MS;">Babysharkboss2!!</span></a> <sup>(<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Babysharkboss2" title="User talk:Babysharkboss2"><span style="color:Black">WEEZER FOR PRESIDENT 2024!</span></a>)</sup> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Qcne#c-Babysharkboss2-20241105195200-A_barnstar_for_you!" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:52, 5 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Babysharkboss2-20241105195200-A_barnstar_for_you!"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241105195200","author":"Babysharkboss2","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Babysharkboss2-20241105195200-A_barnstar_for_you!","replies":["c-Qcne-20241105204200-Babysharkboss2-20241105195200"],"displayName":"Babysharkboss2!!"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Babysharkboss2-20241105195200-A_barnstar_for_you!"></span> </td></tr></tbody></table> <dl><dd><span style="color: red" class="hearts" title="hearts"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Qcne-20241105204200-Babysharkboss2-20241105195200"></span>♥</span> <span style="background-color: RoyalBlue; border-radius: 1em; padding: 3px 3px 3px 3px;"><b><a href="/wiki/User:Qcne" title="User:Qcne"><span style="color: GhostWhite">Qcne</span></a></b> <small><a class="mw-selflink selflink"><span style="color: GhostWhite">(talk)</span></a></small></span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Qcne#c-Qcne-20241105204200-Babysharkboss2-20241105195200" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:42, 5 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Qcne-20241105204200-Babysharkboss2-20241105195200"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241105204200","author":"Qcne","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Qcne-20241105204200-Babysharkboss2-20241105195200","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Qcne-20241105204200-Babysharkboss2-20241105195200"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-MediaWiki_message_delivery-20241106080600&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-The_Signpost:_6_November_2024-20241106080600&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-MediaWiki_message_delivery-20241106080600-The_Signpost:_6_November_2024&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;The Signpost: 6 November 2024&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;The Signpost: 6 November 2024&quot;}--><h2 id="The_Signpost:_6_November_2024" data-mw-thread-id="h-The_Signpost:_6_November_2024-20241106080600"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-The_Signpost:_6_November_2024-20241106080600"></span><i>The Signpost</i>: 6 November 2024<span data-mw-comment-end="h-The_Signpost:_6_November_2024-20241106080600"></span></h2><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-MediaWiki_message_delivery-20241106080600","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-The_Signpost:_6_November_2024-20241106080600","replies":["c-MediaWiki_message_delivery-20241106080600-The_Signpost:_6_November_2024"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-MediaWiki_message_delivery-20241106080600-The_Signpost:_6_November_2024","timestamp":"20241106080600"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__1__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__1__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-MediaWiki_message_delivery-20241106080600&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-The_Signpost:_6_November_2024-20241106080600&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-MediaWiki_message_delivery-20241106080600-The_Signpost:_6_November_2024&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;The Signpost: 6 November 2024&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;The Signpost: 6 November 2024&quot;}--></div></div></div> <div lang="en" dir="ltr" class="mw-content-ltr"><div style="column-count:2;"> <ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-MediaWiki_message_delivery-20241106080600-The_Signpost:_6_November_2024"></span>From the editors: <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2024-11-06/From_the_editors" title="Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/2024-11-06/From the editors">Editing Wikipedia should not be a crime</a></li></ul> <ul><li>News and notes: <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2024-11-06/News_and_notes" title="Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/2024-11-06/News and notes">Wikimedia Foundation shares ANI lawsuit updates; first admin elections appoint eleven sysops; first admin recalls opened; temporary accounts coming soon?</a></li></ul> <ul><li>In the media: <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2024-11-06/In_the_media" title="Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/2024-11-06/In the media">An old scrimmage, politics and purported libel</a></li></ul> <ul><li>Special report: <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2024-11-06/Special_report" title="Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/2024-11-06/Special report">Wikipedia editors face litigation, censorship</a></li></ul> <ul><li>Gallery: <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2024-11-06/Gallery" title="Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/2024-11-06/Gallery">Why you should take more photos and upload them</a></li></ul> <ul><li>In focus: <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2024-11-06/In_focus" title="Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/2024-11-06/In focus">Questions and answers about the court case</a></li></ul> <ul><li>Traffic report: <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2024-11-06/Traffic_report" title="Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/2024-11-06/Traffic report">Twisted tricks or tempting treats?</a></li></ul> <ul><li>Technology report: <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2024-11-06/Technology_report" title="Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/2024-11-06/Technology report">Wikimedia tech, the Asian News International case, and the ultra-rare BLACKLOCK</a></li></ul> <ul><li>Humour: <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2024-11-06/Humour" title="Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/2024-11-06/Humour">Man quietly slinks away from talk page argument after realizing his argument dumb, wrong</a> </li></ul></div> <div class="hlist" style="margin-top:10px; font-size:90%; padding-left:5px; font-family:Georgia, Palatino, Palatino Linotype, Times, Times New Roman, serif;"> * <b><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost" title="Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost">Read this Signpost in full</a></b> * <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/Single/2024-11-06" title="Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/Single/2024-11-06">Single-page</a> * <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/Subscribe" title="Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/Subscribe">Unsubscribe</a> * <a href="/wiki/User:MediaWiki_message_delivery" title="User:MediaWiki message delivery">MediaWiki message delivery</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:MediaWiki_message_delivery" title="User talk:MediaWiki message delivery">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Qcne#c-MediaWiki_message_delivery-20241106080600-The_Signpost:_6_November_2024" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">08:06, 6 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-MediaWiki_message_delivery-20241106080600-The_Signpost:_6_November_2024"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241106080600","author":"MediaWiki message delivery","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-MediaWiki_message_delivery-20241106080600-The_Signpost:_6_November_2024","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-MediaWiki_message_delivery-20241106080600-The_Signpost:_6_November_2024"></span> </div></div> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-Stephvrona-20241108234500&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-Re-Review_TTA_Article?-20241108234500&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-Stephvrona-20241108234500-Re-Review_TTA_Article?&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Re-Review TTA Article?&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;Re-Review TTA Article?&quot;}--><h2 id="Re-Review_TTA_Article?" data-mw-thread-id="h-Re-Review_TTA_Article?-20241108234500"><span id="Re-Review_TTA_Article.3F"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Re-Review_TTA_Article?-20241108234500"></span>Re-Review TTA Article?<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Re-Review_TTA_Article?-20241108234500"></span></h2><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Stephvrona-20241108234500","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Re-Review_TTA_Article?-20241108234500","replies":["c-Stephvrona-20241108234500-Re-Review_TTA_Article?"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-Qcne-20241110132600-Stephvrona-20241108234500","timestamp":"20241110132600"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__2__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__2__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-Stephvrona-20241108234500&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-Re-Review_TTA_Article?-20241108234500&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-Stephvrona-20241108234500-Re-Review_TTA_Article?&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Re-Review TTA Article?&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;Re-Review TTA Article?&quot;}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Stephvrona-20241108234500-Re-Review_TTA_Article?"></span>Hey @<a href="/wiki/User:Qcne" title="User:Qcne">Qcne</a>! I very much appreciate your feedback on the draft article ive been working on. Would you kindly review it again? <a class="external free" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:The_Travel_Agency:_A_Cannabis_Store">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:The_Travel_Agency:_A_Cannabis_Store</a> <a href="/wiki/User:Stephvrona" title="User:Stephvrona">Stephvrona</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Stephvrona" title="User talk:Stephvrona">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Qcne#c-Stephvrona-20241108234500-Re-Review_TTA_Article?" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:45, 8 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Stephvrona-20241108234500-Re-Review_TTA_Article?"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241108234500","author":"Stephvrona","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Stephvrona-20241108234500-Re-Review_TTA_Article?","replies":["c-Qcne-20241110132600-Stephvrona-20241108234500"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Stephvrona-20241108234500-Re-Review_TTA_Article?"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Qcne-20241110132600-Stephvrona-20241108234500"></span>Hi @<a href="/wiki/User:Stephvrona" title="User:Stephvrona">Stephvrona</a>. I think that's about okay for acceptance now, so have accepted. <span style="background-color: RoyalBlue; border-radius: 1em; padding: 3px 3px 3px 3px;"><b><a href="/wiki/User:Qcne" title="User:Qcne"><span style="color: GhostWhite">qcne</span></a></b> <small><a class="mw-selflink selflink"><span style="color: GhostWhite">(talk)</span></a></small></span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Qcne#c-Qcne-20241110132600-Stephvrona-20241108234500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:26, 10 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Qcne-20241110132600-Stephvrona-20241108234500"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241110132600","author":"Qcne","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Qcne-20241110132600-Stephvrona-20241108234500","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Qcne-20241110132600-Stephvrona-20241108234500"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-Knitsey-20241110190700&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-I_was_hoping_you_could_help_me-20241110190700&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-Knitsey-20241110190700-I_was_hoping_you_could_help_me&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;I was hoping you could help me&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;I was hoping you could help me&quot;}--><h2 id="I_was_hoping_you_could_help_me" data-mw-thread-id="h-I_was_hoping_you_could_help_me-20241110190700"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-I_was_hoping_you_could_help_me-20241110190700"></span>I was hoping you could help me<span data-mw-comment-end="h-I_was_hoping_you_could_help_me-20241110190700"></span></h2><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Knitsey-20241110190700","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-I_was_hoping_you_could_help_me-20241110190700","replies":["c-Knitsey-20241110190700-I_was_hoping_you_could_help_me"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-Knitsey-20241110192400-Qcne-20241110191000","timestamp":"20241110192400"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__3__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__2__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-Knitsey-20241110190700&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-I_was_hoping_you_could_help_me-20241110190700&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-Knitsey-20241110190700-I_was_hoping_you_could_help_me&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;I was hoping you could help me&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;I was hoping you could help me&quot;}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Knitsey-20241110190700-I_was_hoping_you_could_help_me"></span>I have been working on Orphaned articles and came across <a href="/w/index.php?title=Giuma_Omar_Bukleb&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="Giuma Omar Bukleb (page does not exist)">Giuma Omar Bukleb</a>, which I noticed you declined <a class="external autonumber" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Gheblawi&amp;diff=prev&amp;oldid=1247879265">[1]</a>. The editor then moved the article to the main space. </p><p>I was looking for links, which I completed. I was looking for ISBN numbers for some of the books the author has written, but I can't find any of the books. This might be because I am on my mobile. I found this <a rel="nofollow" class="external autonumber" href="https://thetanjara.blogspot.com/2011/04/libyan-fiction-writers-under.html?m=1">[2]</a> that includes 2 short stories from the author. I also looked at our article for <a href="/wiki/A_Cure_for_Serpents" title="A Cure for Serpents">A Cure for Serpents</a> as it is listed at Buklebs article as translated by him in 2015 but the article for the book says it was translated by Kathleen Naylor with a link to the book on Amazon <a rel="nofollow" class="external autonumber" href="https://www.amazon.ca/Cure-Serpents-Translated-Kathleen-Naylor/dp/B001AZ7VGK">[3]</a>. I've no idea what to do with the article now? Can you help? <a href="/wiki/User:Knitsey" title="User:Knitsey"><span style="color:DarkMagenta">Knitsey</span></a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Knitsey" title="User talk:Knitsey"><span style="color: maroon">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Qcne#c-Knitsey-20241110190700-I_was_hoping_you_could_help_me" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:07, 10 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Knitsey-20241110190700-I_was_hoping_you_could_help_me"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241110190700","author":"Knitsey","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Knitsey-20241110190700-I_was_hoping_you_could_help_me","replies":["c-Qcne-20241110191000-Knitsey-20241110190700"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Knitsey-20241110190700-I_was_hoping_you_could_help_me"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Qcne-20241110191000-Knitsey-20241110190700"></span>A cursory search finds very little online.. no where near enough for notability. I am going to re-draftify this article and let the editor know. Thanks for pointing letting me know! <span style="background-color: RoyalBlue; border-radius: 1em; padding: 3px 3px 3px 3px;"><b><a href="/wiki/User:Qcne" title="User:Qcne"><span style="color: GhostWhite">qcne</span></a></b> <small><a class="mw-selflink selflink"><span style="color: GhostWhite">(talk)</span></a></small></span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Qcne#c-Qcne-20241110191000-Knitsey-20241110190700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:10, 10 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Qcne-20241110191000-Knitsey-20241110190700"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241110191000","author":"Qcne","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Qcne-20241110191000-Knitsey-20241110190700","replies":["c-Knitsey-20241110192400-Qcne-20241110191000"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Qcne-20241110191000-Knitsey-20241110190700"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Knitsey-20241110192400-Qcne-20241110191000"></span>Thanks for taking a look. <a href="/wiki/User:Knitsey" title="User:Knitsey"><span style="color:DarkMagenta">Knitsey</span></a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Knitsey" title="User talk:Knitsey"><span style="color: maroon">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Qcne#c-Knitsey-20241110192400-Qcne-20241110191000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:24, 10 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Knitsey-20241110192400-Qcne-20241110191000"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241110192400","author":"Knitsey","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Knitsey-20241110192400-Qcne-20241110191000","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Knitsey-20241110192400-Qcne-20241110191000"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-BGerdemann_(WMF)-20241113004100&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-Reminder_to_participate_in_Wikipedia_research-20241113004100&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-BGerdemann_(WMF)-20241113004100-Reminder_to_participate_in_Wikipedia_research&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Reminder to participate in Wikipedia research&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;Reminder to participate in Wikipedia research&quot;}--><h2 id="Reminder_to_participate_in_Wikipedia_research" data-mw-thread-id="h-Reminder_to_participate_in_Wikipedia_research-20241113004100"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Reminder_to_participate_in_Wikipedia_research-20241113004100"></span>Reminder to participate in Wikipedia research<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Reminder_to_participate_in_Wikipedia_research-20241113004100"></span></h2><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-BGerdemann_(WMF)-20241113004100","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Reminder_to_participate_in_Wikipedia_research-20241113004100","replies":["c-BGerdemann_(WMF)-20241113004100-Reminder_to_participate_in_Wikipedia_research"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-BGerdemann_(WMF)-20241113004100-Reminder_to_participate_in_Wikipedia_research","timestamp":"20241113004100"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__1__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__1__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-BGerdemann_(WMF)-20241113004100&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-Reminder_to_participate_in_Wikipedia_research-20241113004100&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-BGerdemann_(WMF)-20241113004100-Reminder_to_participate_in_Wikipedia_research&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Reminder to participate in Wikipedia research&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;Reminder to participate in Wikipedia research&quot;}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-BGerdemann_(WMF)-20241113004100-Reminder_to_participate_in_Wikipedia_research"></span>Hello, </p><p>I recently invited you to take a survey about administration on Wikipedia. If you haven’t yet had a chance, there is still time to participate– we’d truly appreciate your feedback. The survey is anonymous and should take about 10-15 minutes to complete. You may read more about the study on its <a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Research:Wikipedia_Administrator_Recruitment,_Retention,_and_Attrition" class="extiw" title="m:Special:MyLanguage/Research:Wikipedia Administrator Recruitment, Retention, and Attrition">Meta page</a> and view its <a href="https://foundation.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Legal:Administrator_Experiences_2024_Survey_Privacy_Statement" class="extiw" title="wmf:Special:MyLanguage/Legal:Administrator Experiences 2024 Survey Privacy Statement">privacy statement</a>. </p><p>Take the survey <b><a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://wikimediafoundation.limesurvey.net/962595?lang=en">here</a></b>. </p><p>Kind Regards, </p><p><a href="https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Wikimedia_Research" class="extiw" title="mw:Special:MyLanguage/Wikimedia Research">WMF Research Team</a> </p><p><bdi lang="en" dir="ltr"><a href="/wiki/User:BGerdemann_(WMF)" title="User:BGerdemann (WMF)">BGerdemann (WMF)</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:BGerdemann_(WMF)" title="User talk:BGerdemann (WMF)">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Qcne#c-BGerdemann_(WMF)-20241113004100-Reminder_to_participate_in_Wikipedia_research" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:41, 13 November 2024 (UTC)</a> </bdi><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-BGerdemann_(WMF)-20241113004100-Reminder_to_participate_in_Wikipedia_research"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241113004100","author":"BGerdemann (WMF)","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-BGerdemann_(WMF)-20241113004100-Reminder_to_participate_in_Wikipedia_research","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-BGerdemann_(WMF)-20241113004100-Reminder_to_participate_in_Wikipedia_research"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-ScotsOats-20241117013800&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-Submission_re-review_request_Chai-20241117013800&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-ScotsOats-20241117013800-Submission_re-review_request_Chai&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Submission re-review request Chai&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;Submission re-review request Chai&quot;}--><h2 id="Submission_re-review_request_Chai" data-mw-thread-id="h-Submission_re-review_request_Chai-20241117013800"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Submission_re-review_request_Chai-20241117013800"></span>Submission re-review request Chai<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Submission_re-review_request_Chai-20241117013800"></span></h2><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-ScotsOats-20241117013800","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Submission_re-review_request_Chai-20241117013800","replies":["c-ScotsOats-20241117013800-Submission_re-review_request_Chai"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-Qcne-20241119100300-ScotsOats-20241119011700","timestamp":"20241119100300"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__4__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__2__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-ScotsOats-20241117013800&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-Submission_re-review_request_Chai-20241117013800&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-ScotsOats-20241117013800-Submission_re-review_request_Chai&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Submission re-review request Chai&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;Submission re-review request Chai&quot;}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-ScotsOats-20241117013800-Submission_re-review_request_Chai"></span>Hi, </p><p>Thank you so much for your helpful feedback on the draft article I've been working on. Could you please kindly review it again and let me know if you have further feedback? </p><p><a href="/wiki/Draft:Chai" class="mw-redirect" title="Draft:Chai">Draft:Chai</a> </p><p>All the best, <a href="/wiki/User:ScotsOats" title="User:ScotsOats">ScotsOats</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:ScotsOats" title="User talk:ScotsOats">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Qcne#c-ScotsOats-20241117013800-Submission_re-review_request_Chai" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">01:38, 17 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-ScotsOats-20241117013800-Submission_re-review_request_Chai"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241117013800","author":"ScotsOats","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-ScotsOats-20241117013800-Submission_re-review_request_Chai","replies":["c-Qcne-20241117131600-ScotsOats-20241117013800"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-ScotsOats-20241117013800-Submission_re-review_request_Chai"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Qcne-20241117131600-ScotsOats-20241117013800"></span>Hi @<a href="/wiki/User:ScotsOats" title="User:ScotsOats">ScotsOats</a> - I'm still not quite seeing enough <i>independent</i> coverage which isn't based on interviews with employers, <i>significant </i>coverage which isn't just routine business coverage without much independent analysis/commentary (i.e. the techfundingnews.com source which is just re-gurgitating a press release with horrific flowery prose).</dd> <dd>I think you're close though, so two more sources of good calibre would probably nudge it over the edge of notability. <span style="background-color: RoyalBlue; border-radius: 1em; padding: 3px 3px 3px 3px;"><b><a href="/wiki/User:Qcne" title="User:Qcne"><span style="color: GhostWhite">qcne</span></a></b> <small><a class="mw-selflink selflink"><span style="color: GhostWhite">(talk)</span></a></small></span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Qcne#c-Qcne-20241117131600-ScotsOats-20241117013800" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:16, 17 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Qcne-20241117131600-ScotsOats-20241117013800"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241117131600","author":"Qcne","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Qcne-20241117131600-ScotsOats-20241117013800","replies":["c-ScotsOats-20241119011700-Qcne-20241117131600"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Qcne-20241117131600-ScotsOats-20241117013800"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-ScotsOats-20241119011700-Qcne-20241117131600"></span>Thanks - I've added two more sources - would you mind taking another look please <a href="/wiki/User:ScotsOats" title="User:ScotsOats">ScotsOats</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:ScotsOats" title="User talk:ScotsOats">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Qcne#c-ScotsOats-20241119011700-Qcne-20241117131600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">01:17, 19 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-ScotsOats-20241119011700-Qcne-20241117131600"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241119011700","author":"ScotsOats","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-ScotsOats-20241119011700-Qcne-20241117131600","replies":["c-Qcne-20241119100300-ScotsOats-20241119011700"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-ScotsOats-20241119011700-Qcne-20241117131600"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Qcne-20241119100300-ScotsOats-20241119011700"></span>I think that nudges it over, so have accepted. Please add some <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:CATEGORIES" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:CATEGORIES">WP:CATEGORIES</a>. <span style="background-color: RoyalBlue; border-radius: 1em; padding: 3px 3px 3px 3px;"><b><a href="/wiki/User:Qcne" title="User:Qcne"><span style="color: GhostWhite">qcne</span></a></b> <small><a class="mw-selflink selflink"><span style="color: GhostWhite">(talk)</span></a></small></span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Qcne#c-Qcne-20241119100300-ScotsOats-20241119011700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:03, 19 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Qcne-20241119100300-ScotsOats-20241119011700"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241119100300","author":"Qcne","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Qcne-20241119100300-ScotsOats-20241119011700","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Qcne-20241119100300-ScotsOats-20241119011700"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-GAMERBOY102-20241118122400&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-A_flag_for_you!-20241118122400&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-GAMERBOY102-20241118122400-A_flag_for_you!&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;A flag for you!&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;A flag for you!&quot;}--><h2 id="A_flag_for_you!" data-mw-thread-id="h-A_flag_for_you!-20241118122400"><span id="A_flag_for_you.21"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-A_flag_for_you!-20241118122400"></span>A flag for you!<span data-mw-comment-end="h-A_flag_for_you!-20241118122400"></span></h2><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-GAMERBOY102-20241118122400","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-A_flag_for_you!-20241118122400","replies":["c-GAMERBOY102-20241118122400-A_flag_for_you!"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-GAMERBOY102-20241118122400-A_flag_for_you!","timestamp":"20241118122400"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__1__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__1__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-GAMERBOY102-20241118122400&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-A_flag_for_you!-20241118122400&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-GAMERBOY102-20241118122400-A_flag_for_you!&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;A flag for you!&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;A flag for you!&quot;}--></div></div></div> <table style="background-color: #fdffe7; border: 1px solid #fceb92;"> <tbody><tr> <td rowspan="2" style="vertical-align: middle; padding: 5px;"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-GAMERBOY102-20241118122400-A_flag_for_you!"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Proposal_Flag_of_the_World_(1988).svg" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/ab/Proposal_Flag_of_the_World_%281988%29.svg/100px-Proposal_Flag_of_the_World_%281988%29.svg.png" decoding="async" width="100" height="63" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/ab/Proposal_Flag_of_the_World_%281988%29.svg/150px-Proposal_Flag_of_the_World_%281988%29.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/ab/Proposal_Flag_of_the_World_%281988%29.svg/200px-Proposal_Flag_of_the_World_%281988%29.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="1593" data-file-height="997"/></a></span> </td> <td style="font-size: x-large; padding: 3px 3px 0 3px; height: 1.5em;"><b>I got a flag</b> </td></tr> <tr> <td style="vertical-align: middle; padding: 3px;">Thanks <a href="/wiki/User:GAMERBOY102" title="User:GAMERBOY102">GAMERBOY102</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:GAMERBOY102" title="User talk:GAMERBOY102">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Qcne#c-GAMERBOY102-20241118122400-A_flag_for_you!" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:24, 18 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-GAMERBOY102-20241118122400-A_flag_for_you!"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241118122400","author":"GAMERBOY102","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-GAMERBOY102-20241118122400-A_flag_for_you!","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-GAMERBOY102-20241118122400-A_flag_for_you!"></span> </td></tr></tbody></table> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-Pveclaire-20241118215200&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-Carl_Azuz-20241118215200&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-Pveclaire-20241118215200-Carl_Azuz&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Carl Azuz&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;Carl Azuz&quot;}--><h2 id="Carl_Azuz" data-mw-thread-id="h-Carl_Azuz-20241118215200"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Carl_Azuz-20241118215200"></span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Carl_Azuz&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="Carl Azuz (page does not exist)">Carl Azuz</a><span data-mw-comment-end="h-Carl_Azuz-20241118215200"></span></h2><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Pveclaire-20241118215200","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Carl_Azuz-20241118215200","replies":["c-Pveclaire-20241118215200-Carl_Azuz"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-Qcne-20241118215800-Pveclaire-20241118215200","timestamp":"20241118215800"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__2__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__2__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-Pveclaire-20241118215200&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-Carl_Azuz-20241118215200&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-Pveclaire-20241118215200-Carl_Azuz&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Carl Azuz&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;Carl Azuz&quot;}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Pveclaire-20241118215200-Carl_Azuz"></span>Thank you for the quick turnaround on my submission. The challenge I face in creating this article is that the subject is a journalist who covers the news, and has not received much news coverage about Mr. Azuz himself. Surely this person is notable, as the former host of a popular student news show produced by a large media outlet. He currently has more than 40,000 subscribers on his YouTube channel and over 60,000 followers on X. I would appreciate some suggestions in buttressing the page in hopes to get it published. Thank you! <a href="/wiki/User:Pveclaire" title="User:Pveclaire">Pveclaire</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Pveclaire" title="User talk:Pveclaire">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Qcne#c-Pveclaire-20241118215200-Carl_Azuz" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:52, 18 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Pveclaire-20241118215200-Carl_Azuz"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241118215200","author":"Pveclaire","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Pveclaire-20241118215200-Carl_Azuz","replies":["c-Qcne-20241118215800-Pveclaire-20241118215200"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Pveclaire-20241118215200-Carl_Azuz"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Qcne-20241118215800-Pveclaire-20241118215200"></span>Hi @<a href="/wiki/User:Pveclaire" title="User:Pveclaire">Pveclaire</a>. We're looking for significant coverage in reliable, independent sources to prove notability. Notability in this case doesn't mean "famous" or "has 50k> subscribers", but instead should be thought of "noted in secondary sources".</dd> <dd>The Buzzfeed News source is okay, in that it does provide significant coverage (though - not sure how reliable Buzzfeed is these days..). The mhstrail is a fairly concise source and also doesn't provide that sigcov. <span style="background-color: RoyalBlue; border-radius: 1em; padding: 3px 3px 3px 3px;"><b><a href="/wiki/User:Qcne" title="User:Qcne"><span style="color: GhostWhite">qcne</span></a></b> <small><a class="mw-selflink selflink"><span style="color: GhostWhite">(talk)</span></a></small></span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Qcne#c-Qcne-20241118215800-Pveclaire-20241118215200" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:58, 18 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Qcne-20241118215800-Pveclaire-20241118215200"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241118215800","author":"Qcne","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Qcne-20241118215800-Pveclaire-20241118215200","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Qcne-20241118215800-Pveclaire-20241118215200"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-MediaWiki_message_delivery-20241118234300&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-The_Signpost:_18_November_2024-20241118234300&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-MediaWiki_message_delivery-20241118234300-The_Signpost:_18_November_2024&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;The Signpost: 18 November 2024&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;The Signpost: 18 November 2024&quot;}--><h2 id="The_Signpost:_18_November_2024" data-mw-thread-id="h-The_Signpost:_18_November_2024-20241118234300"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-The_Signpost:_18_November_2024-20241118234300"></span><i>The Signpost</i>: 18 November 2024<span data-mw-comment-end="h-The_Signpost:_18_November_2024-20241118234300"></span></h2><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-MediaWiki_message_delivery-20241118234300","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-The_Signpost:_18_November_2024-20241118234300","replies":["c-MediaWiki_message_delivery-20241118234300-The_Signpost:_18_November_2024"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-MediaWiki_message_delivery-20241118234300-The_Signpost:_18_November_2024","timestamp":"20241118234300"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__1__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__1__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-MediaWiki_message_delivery-20241118234300&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-The_Signpost:_18_November_2024-20241118234300&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-MediaWiki_message_delivery-20241118234300-The_Signpost:_18_November_2024&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;The Signpost: 18 November 2024&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;The Signpost: 18 November 2024&quot;}--></div></div></div> <div lang="en" dir="ltr" class="mw-content-ltr"><div style="column-count:2;"> <ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-MediaWiki_message_delivery-20241118234300-The_Signpost:_18_November_2024"></span>News and notes: <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2024-11-18/News_and_notes" title="Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/2024-11-18/News and notes">Open letter to WMF about court case breaks one thousand signatures, big arb case declined, U4C begins accepting cases</a></li></ul> <ul><li>In the media: <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2024-11-18/In_the_media" title="Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/2024-11-18/In the media">Summons issued for Wikipedia editors by Indian court, "Gaza genocide" RfC close in news, old admin Gwern now big AI guy, and a "spectrum of reluctance" over Australian place names</a></li></ul> <ul><li>Recent research: <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2024-11-18/Recent_research" title="Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/2024-11-18/Recent research">SPINACH: AI help for asking Wikidata "challenging real-world questions"</a></li></ul> <ul><li>News from the WMF: <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2024-11-18/News_from_the_WMF" title="Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/2024-11-18/News from the WMF">Wikimedia Foundation and Wikimedia Endowment audit reports: FY 2023–2024</a></li></ul> <ul><li>Traffic report: <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2024-11-18/Traffic_report" title="Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/2024-11-18/Traffic report">Well, let us share with you our knowledge, about the electoral college</a> </li></ul></div> <div class="hlist" style="margin-top:10px; 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data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-LjiljanaKG-20241121163400-Request_on_16:34:02,_21_November_2024_for_assistance_on_AfC_submission_by_Ljilja"></span>LjiljanaKG</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:LjiljanaKG" title="User talk:LjiljanaKG">talk</a> <b>·</b> <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/LjiljanaKG" title="Special:Contributions/LjiljanaKG">contribs</a>) <ul><li class="mw-empty-elt"></li> <li><span class="plainlinks nourlexpansion lx"><a href="/wiki/Draft:MD7" class="mw-redirect" title="Draft:MD7">Draft:MD7</a> <span style="font-size:90%;">(<a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Draft:MD7&amp;action=edit">edit</a> | <a href="/wiki/Draft_talk:MD7" class="mw-redirect" title="Draft talk:MD7">talk</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Draft:MD7&amp;action=history">history</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Whatlinkshere/Draft:MD7">links</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Draft:MD7&amp;action=watch">watch</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Log&amp;page=Draft%3AMD7">logs</a>)</span></span></li></ul></li></ul> <p><br/> </p> <pre>Hi can you please help or guide me how to clean this article up so it does not sound like a Promotion. There are many independent sources cited. Thank you! </pre> <p><br/> <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:LjiljanaKG&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="User:LjiljanaKG (page does not exist)">LjiljanaKG</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:LjiljanaKG" title="User talk:LjiljanaKG">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Qcne#c-LjiljanaKG-20241121163400-Request_on_16:34:02,_21_November_2024_for_assistance_on_AfC_submission_by_Ljilja" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:34, 21 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-LjiljanaKG-20241121163400-Request_on_16:34:02,_21_November_2024_for_assistance_on_AfC_submission_by_Ljilja"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241121163400","author":"LjiljanaKG","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-LjiljanaKG-20241121163400-Request_on_16:34:02,_21_November_2024_for_assistance_on_AfC_submission_by_Ljilja","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-LjiljanaKG-20241121163400-Request_on_16:34:02,_21_November_2024_for_assistance_on_AfC_submission_by_Ljilja"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-Clovermoss-20241121165300&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-A_barnstar_for_you!_2-20241121165300&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-Clovermoss-20241121165300-A_barnstar_for_you!_2&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;A barnstar for you!&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;A barnstar for you! 2&quot;}--><h2 id="A_barnstar_for_you!_2" data-mw-thread-id="h-A_barnstar_for_you!_2-20241121165300"><span id="A_barnstar_for_you.21_2"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-A_barnstar_for_you!_2-20241121165300"></span>A barnstar for you!<span data-mw-comment-end="h-A_barnstar_for_you!_2-20241121165300"></span></h2><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Clovermoss-20241121165300","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-A_barnstar_for_you!_2-20241121165300","replies":["c-Clovermoss-20241121165300-A_barnstar_for_you!_2"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-Qcne-20241121181400-Clovermoss-20241121165300","timestamp":"20241121181400"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__2__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__2__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-Clovermoss-20241121165300&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-A_barnstar_for_you!_2-20241121165300&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-Clovermoss-20241121165300-A_barnstar_for_you!_2&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;A barnstar for you!&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;A barnstar for you! 2&quot;}--></div></div></div> <table style="background-color: #fdffe7; border: 1px solid #fceb92;"> <tbody><tr> <td rowspan="2" style="vertical-align: middle; padding: 5px;"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Clovermoss-20241121165300-A_barnstar_for_you!_2"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Barnstar_of_Diligence_Hires.png" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/8c/Barnstar_of_Diligence_Hires.png/100px-Barnstar_of_Diligence_Hires.png" decoding="async" width="100" height="95" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/8c/Barnstar_of_Diligence_Hires.png/150px-Barnstar_of_Diligence_Hires.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/8c/Barnstar_of_Diligence_Hires.png/200px-Barnstar_of_Diligence_Hires.png 2x" data-file-width="2000" data-file-height="1900"/></a></span> </td> <td style="font-size: x-large; padding: 3px 3px 0 3px; height: 1.5em;"><b>The Barnstar of Diligence</b> </td></tr> <tr> <td style="vertical-align: middle; padding: 3px;">I really like your userpage. It's like an AfC specific version of the newbie central on my talk page. <a href="/wiki/User:Clovermoss" title="User:Clovermoss"><span style="color:darkorchid">Clovermoss</span><span style="color:green">🍀</span></a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Clovermoss" title="User talk:Clovermoss">(talk)</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Qcne#c-Clovermoss-20241121165300-A_barnstar_for_you!_2" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:53, 21 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Clovermoss-20241121165300-A_barnstar_for_you!_2"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241121165300","author":"Clovermoss","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Clovermoss-20241121165300-A_barnstar_for_you!_2","replies":["c-Qcne-20241121181400-Clovermoss-20241121165300"],"displayName":"Clovermoss\ud83c\udf40"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Clovermoss-20241121165300-A_barnstar_for_you!_2"></span> </td></tr></tbody></table> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Qcne-20241121181400-Clovermoss-20241121165300"></span>Thank you! That's really kind of you to say. <span style="color: red" class="hearts" title="hearts">♥</span> <span style="background-color: RoyalBlue; border-radius: 1em; padding: 3px 3px 3px 3px;"><b><a href="/wiki/User:Qcne" title="User:Qcne"><span style="color: GhostWhite">qcne</span></a></b> <small><a class="mw-selflink selflink"><span style="color: GhostWhite">(talk)</span></a></small></span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Qcne#c-Qcne-20241121181400-Clovermoss-20241121165300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:14, 21 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Qcne-20241121181400-Clovermoss-20241121165300"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241121181400","author":"Qcne","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Qcne-20241121181400-Clovermoss-20241121165300","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Qcne-20241121181400-Clovermoss-20241121165300"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-DCfootball09-20241121172000&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-AFC_Assistance-20241121172000&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-DCfootball09-20241121172000-AFC_Assistance&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;AFC Assistance&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;AFC Assistance&quot;}--><h2 id="AFC_Assistance" data-mw-thread-id="h-AFC_Assistance-20241121172000"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-AFC_Assistance-20241121172000"></span>AFC Assistance<span data-mw-comment-end="h-AFC_Assistance-20241121172000"></span></h2><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-DCfootball09-20241121172000","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-AFC_Assistance-20241121172000","replies":["c-DCfootball09-20241121172000-AFC_Assistance"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-Qcne-20241121181600-DCfootball09-20241121172000","timestamp":"20241121181600"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__2__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__2__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-DCfootball09-20241121172000&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-AFC_Assistance-20241121172000&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-DCfootball09-20241121172000-AFC_Assistance&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;AFC Assistance&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;AFC Assistance&quot;}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-DCfootball09-20241121172000-AFC_Assistance"></span>Hi! I think I finally have a winner! I would appreciate any additional help you could provide for this article <a class="external free" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Pat_Bastien">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Pat_Bastien</a>. </p><p>Thanks! </p><p><a href="/w/index.php?title=User:DCfootball09&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="User:DCfootball09 (page does not exist)">DCfootball09</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:DCfootball09" title="User talk:DCfootball09">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Qcne#c-DCfootball09-20241121172000-AFC_Assistance" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:20, 21 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-DCfootball09-20241121172000-AFC_Assistance"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241121172000","author":"DCfootball09","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-DCfootball09-20241121172000-AFC_Assistance","replies":["c-Qcne-20241121181600-DCfootball09-20241121172000"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-DCfootball09-20241121172000-AFC_Assistance"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Qcne-20241121181600-DCfootball09-20241121172000"></span>I've accepted it, @<a href="/w/index.php?title=User:DCfootball09&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="User:DCfootball09 (page does not exist)">DCfootball09</a>, based on that I think it just about nudges over to notability (we're talking like, 51%). Do continue to improve it!</dd> <dd>Please add some <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:CATEGORIES" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:CATEGORIES">WP:CATEGORIES</a> too. <span style="background-color: RoyalBlue; border-radius: 1em; padding: 3px 3px 3px 3px;"><b><a href="/wiki/User:Qcne" title="User:Qcne"><span style="color: GhostWhite">qcne</span></a></b> <small><a class="mw-selflink selflink"><span style="color: GhostWhite">(talk)</span></a></small></span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Qcne#c-Qcne-20241121181600-DCfootball09-20241121172000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:16, 21 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Qcne-20241121181600-DCfootball09-20241121172000"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241121181600","author":"Qcne","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Qcne-20241121181600-DCfootball09-20241121172000","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Qcne-20241121181600-DCfootball09-20241121172000"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-GenesisGSE-20241124223400&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-Draft:_BADVOID-20241124223400&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-GenesisGSE-20241124223400-Draft:_BADVOID&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Draft: BADVOID&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;Draft: BADVOID&quot;}--><h2 id="Draft:_BADVOID" data-mw-thread-id="h-Draft:_BADVOID-20241124223400"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Draft:_BADVOID-20241124223400"></span>Draft: BADVOID<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Draft:_BADVOID-20241124223400"></span></h2><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-GenesisGSE-20241124223400","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Draft:_BADVOID-20241124223400","replies":["c-GenesisGSE-20241124223400-Draft:_BADVOID"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-GenesisGSE-20241126201600-Qcne-20241126083600","timestamp":"20241126201600"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__7__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__2__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-GenesisGSE-20241124223400&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-Draft:_BADVOID-20241124223400&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-GenesisGSE-20241124223400-Draft:_BADVOID&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Draft: BADVOID&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;Draft: BADVOID&quot;}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-GenesisGSE-20241124223400-Draft:_BADVOID"></span>Just sending over the updated draft, I would appreciate any help you could provide for this article. </p><p><a class="external free" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:BADVOID">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:BADVOID</a> <a href="/wiki/User:GenesisGSE" title="User:GenesisGSE">GenesisGSE</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:GenesisGSE" title="User talk:GenesisGSE">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Qcne#c-GenesisGSE-20241124223400-Draft:_BADVOID" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:34, 24 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-GenesisGSE-20241124223400-Draft:_BADVOID"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241124223400","author":"GenesisGSE","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-GenesisGSE-20241124223400-Draft:_BADVOID","replies":["c-Qcne-20241125104800-GenesisGSE-20241124223400"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-GenesisGSE-20241124223400-Draft:_BADVOID"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Qcne-20241125104800-GenesisGSE-20241124223400"></span>Hi @<a href="/wiki/User:GenesisGSE" title="User:GenesisGSE">GenesisGSE</a>, have made a post on the draft talk page: <a href="/wiki/Draft_talk:BADVOID#Source_Assessment_Table" title="Draft talk:BADVOID">Draft_talk:BADVOID#Source_Assessment_Table</a> <span style="background-color: RoyalBlue; border-radius: 1em; padding: 3px 3px 3px 3px;"><b><a href="/wiki/User:Qcne" title="User:Qcne"><span style="color: GhostWhite">qcne</span></a></b> <small><a class="mw-selflink selflink"><span style="color: GhostWhite">(talk)</span></a></small></span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Qcne#c-Qcne-20241125104800-GenesisGSE-20241124223400" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:48, 25 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Qcne-20241125104800-GenesisGSE-20241124223400"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241125104800","author":"Qcne","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Qcne-20241125104800-GenesisGSE-20241124223400","replies":["c-GenesisGSE-20241125180000-Qcne-20241125104800"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Qcne-20241125104800-GenesisGSE-20241124223400"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-GenesisGSE-20241125180000-Qcne-20241125104800"></span>Hey @<a href="/wiki/User:Qcne" title="User:Qcne">Qcne</a>, thank you once again for your help. It is greatly appreciated. <a href="/wiki/User:GenesisGSE" title="User:GenesisGSE">GenesisGSE</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:GenesisGSE" title="User talk:GenesisGSE">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Qcne#c-GenesisGSE-20241125180000-Qcne-20241125104800" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:00, 25 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-GenesisGSE-20241125180000-Qcne-20241125104800"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241125180000","author":"GenesisGSE","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-GenesisGSE-20241125180000-Qcne-20241125104800","replies":["c-GenesisGSE-20241125183100-GenesisGSE-20241125180000"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-GenesisGSE-20241125180000-Qcne-20241125104800"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-GenesisGSE-20241125183100-GenesisGSE-20241125180000"></span>I've added a few extra sources to the draft that I think would pass <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:GNG" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:GNG">WP:GNG</a>. or <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:MUSICBIO" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:MUSICBIO">WP:MUSICBIO</a> @<a href="/wiki/User:Qcne" title="User:Qcne">Qcne</a></dd> <dd><a rel="nofollow" class="external autonumber" href="https://www.couriermail.com.au/news/queensland/mackay/teen-dj-working-hard-to-make-his-music-heard/news-story/ba832242bdb792c6bb3e808b0fcd106c">[4]</a> <a rel="nofollow" class="external autonumber" href="https://www.couriermail.com.au/news/queensland/mackay/mackay-djs-hit-single-breaks-into-itunes-charts/news-story/0a49a4788616a5af5588a0d11617f98e">[5]</a> <a rel="nofollow" class="external autonumber" href="https://www.cultr.com/news/a-conversation-with-badvoid-ghosted-origins-and-more/">[6]</a> <a rel="nofollow" class="external autonumber" href="https://themusicnetwork.com/moo-lineup-changes-one-international-dropout-and-90-additions/">[7]</a> <a rel="nofollow" class="external autonumber" href="https://www.insomniac.com/music/artists/badvoid/">[8]</a></dd> <dd>The fifth source is a link to the record label / promoter company BADVOID is signed too, which is also listed <a href="/wiki/Insomniac_(promoter)" title="Insomniac (promoter)">Insomniac.</a> <a href="/wiki/User:GenesisGSE" title="User:GenesisGSE">GenesisGSE</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:GenesisGSE" title="User talk:GenesisGSE">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Qcne#c-GenesisGSE-20241125183100-GenesisGSE-20241125180000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:31, 25 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-GenesisGSE-20241125183100-GenesisGSE-20241125180000"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241125183100","author":"GenesisGSE","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-GenesisGSE-20241125183100-GenesisGSE-20241125180000","replies":["c-GenesisGSE-20241125212100-GenesisGSE-20241125183100"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-GenesisGSE-20241125183100-GenesisGSE-20241125180000"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-GenesisGSE-20241125212100-GenesisGSE-20241125183100"></span>Draft was submitted to AfC, thank you once again. @<a href="/wiki/User:Qcne" title="User:Qcne">Qcne</a> <a href="/wiki/User:GenesisGSE" title="User:GenesisGSE">GenesisGSE</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:GenesisGSE" title="User talk:GenesisGSE">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Qcne#c-GenesisGSE-20241125212100-GenesisGSE-20241125183100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:21, 25 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-GenesisGSE-20241125212100-GenesisGSE-20241125183100"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241125212100","author":"GenesisGSE","type":"comment","level":5,"id":"c-GenesisGSE-20241125212100-GenesisGSE-20241125183100","replies":["c-Qcne-20241126083600-GenesisGSE-20241125212100"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-GenesisGSE-20241125212100-GenesisGSE-20241125183100"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Qcne-20241126083600-GenesisGSE-20241125212100"></span>Great- I will also recuse myself from reviewing but have added a note to other reviewers to check the Talk page for the discussion. <span style="background-color: RoyalBlue; border-radius: 1em; padding: 3px 3px 3px 3px;"><b><a href="/wiki/User:Qcne" title="User:Qcne"><span style="color: GhostWhite">qcne</span></a></b> <small><a class="mw-selflink selflink"><span style="color: GhostWhite">(talk)</span></a></small></span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Qcne#c-Qcne-20241126083600-GenesisGSE-20241125212100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">08:36, 26 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Qcne-20241126083600-GenesisGSE-20241125212100"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span 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