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Keep going :) <a href="/wiki/User:Meteorname" title="User:Meteorname">Meteorname</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Meteorname" title="User talk:Meteorname">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Qcne/Archives/2024/January#c-Meteorname-20231223204900-A_barnstar_for_you!" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:49, 23 December 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Meteorname-20231223204900-A_barnstar_for_you!"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Meteorname-20231223204900-A_barnstar_for_you!"></span> </td></tr></tbody></table> <dl><dd><span style="color: red" class="hearts" title="hearts"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Qcne-20231223233800-Meteorname-20231223204900"></span>♥</span> <span style="background-color: RoyalBlue; border-radius: 1em; padding: 3px 3px 3px 3px;"><b><a href="/wiki/User:Qcne" title="User:Qcne"><span style="color: GhostWhite">Qcne</span></a></b> <small><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Qcne" title="User talk:Qcne"><span style="color: GhostWhite">(talk)</span></a></small></span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Qcne/Archives/2024/January#c-Qcne-20231223233800-Meteorname-20231223204900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:38, 23 December 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Qcne-20231223233800-Meteorname-20231223204900"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Qcne-20231223233800-Meteorname-20231223204900"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="My_Sandbox" data-mw-thread-id="h-My_Sandbox-20240102141700"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-My_Sandbox-20240102141700"></span>My Sandbox<span data-mw-comment-end="h-My_Sandbox-20240102141700"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-LampVimmW-20240102141700-My_Sandbox"></span>Please approve my Sandbox, I'll improve it's content as per time. The entity is really famous in Punjab that is noted by websites I have cited in the article. </p><p><a href="/wiki/User:LampVimmW" title="User:LampVimmW">LampVimmW</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:LampVimmW" title="User talk:LampVimmW">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Qcne/Archives/2024/January#c-LampVimmW-20240102141700-My_Sandbox" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:17, 2 January 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-LampVimmW-20240102141700-My_Sandbox"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-LampVimmW-20240102141700-My_Sandbox"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Qcne-20240102142100-LampVimmW-20240102141700"></span>You have not demonstrated notability via our <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:NMUSIC" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:NMUSIC">WP:NMUSIC</a> criteria, so the decline still stands. <span style="background-color: RoyalBlue; border-radius: 1em; padding: 3px 3px 3px 3px;"><b><a href="/wiki/User:Qcne" title="User:Qcne"><span style="color: GhostWhite">Qcne</span></a></b> <small><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Qcne" title="User talk:Qcne"><span style="color: GhostWhite">(talk)</span></a></small></span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Qcne/Archives/2024/January#c-Qcne-20240102142100-LampVimmW-20240102141700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:21, 2 January 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Qcne-20240102142100-LampVimmW-20240102141700"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Qcne-20240102142100-LampVimmW-20240102141700"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-LampVimmW-20240102145700-Qcne-20240102142100"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:Qcne" title="User:Qcne">Qcne</a> No problem. I can understand this. I'll try to match the criteria next time.</dd> <dd>Thank you for your attention on this topic. <a href="/wiki/User:LampVimmW" title="User:LampVimmW">LampVimmW</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:LampVimmW" title="User talk:LampVimmW">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Qcne/Archives/2024/January#c-LampVimmW-20240102145700-Qcne-20240102142100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:57, 2 January 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-LampVimmW-20240102145700-Qcne-20240102142100"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-LampVimmW-20240102145700-Qcne-20240102142100"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Lington_cyclecar_(rejection)" data-mw-thread-id="h-Lington_cyclecar_(rejection)-20231228142500"><span id="Lington_cyclecar_.28rejection.29"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Lington_cyclecar_(rejection)-20231228142500"></span>Lington cyclecar (rejection)<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Lington_cyclecar_(rejection)-20231228142500"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-RoachPeter-20231228142500-Lington_cyclecar_(rejection)"></span>Perhaps I could give a word of explanation. Whoever compiled the list of United Kingdom cyclecars put every single name in double square brackets, implying a link to a WP article. However, when I clicked on Lington (since I am somewhat interested in the make) I was led to material that has nothing to do with cyclecars. I thought it would be helpful if the name Lington in the UK cyclecar list did actually lead to a relevant article, even if very brief in the manner of <a href="/wiki/Baker_%26_Dale" title="Baker & Dale">Baker & Dale</a>, <a href="/wiki/Bell_(cyclecar)" title="Bell (cyclecar)">Bell (cyclecar)</a> or <a href="/wiki/Broadway" class="mw-disambig" title="Broadway">Broadway</a>. I do intend to enlarge the article, but not simply by cut-and-paste from other publications. <a href="/wiki/User:RoachPeter" title="User:RoachPeter">RoachPeter</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:RoachPeter" title="User talk:RoachPeter">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Qcne/Archives/2024/January#c-RoachPeter-20231228142500-Lington_cyclecar_(rejection)" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:25, 28 December 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-RoachPeter-20231228142500-Lington_cyclecar_(rejection)"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-RoachPeter-20231228142500-Lington_cyclecar_(rejection)"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Qcne-20231228180600-RoachPeter-20231228142500"></span>Hi @<a href="/wiki/User:RoachPeter" title="User:RoachPeter">RoachPeter</a>. Thanks for the info- I would recommend then working on the draft and submit it again when you feel it is ready. Feel free to ping me here when you think it's ready and I will have another look! <span style="background-color: RoyalBlue; border-radius: 1em; padding: 3px 3px 3px 3px;"><b><a href="/wiki/User:Qcne" title="User:Qcne"><span style="color: GhostWhite">Qcne</span></a></b> <small><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Qcne" title="User talk:Qcne"><span style="color: GhostWhite">(talk)</span></a></small></span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Qcne/Archives/2024/January#c-Qcne-20231228180600-RoachPeter-20231228142500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:06, 28 December 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Qcne-20231228180600-RoachPeter-20231228142500"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Qcne-20231228180600-RoachPeter-20231228142500"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-RoachPeter-20231229120800-Qcne-20231228180600"></span>Hi @<a href="/wiki/User:Qcne" title="User:Qcne">Qcne</a> I have done some more work on the Lington cyclecar and would be glad of your opinion on whether this has made it more acceptable. The reference to my home town of Shrewsbury, by the way, reveals why I find this particular make to be of interest! <a href="/wiki/User:RoachPeter" title="User:RoachPeter">RoachPeter</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:RoachPeter" title="User talk:RoachPeter">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Qcne/Archives/2024/January#c-RoachPeter-20231229120800-Qcne-20231228180600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:08, 29 December 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-RoachPeter-20231229120800-Qcne-20231228180600"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-RoachPeter-20231229120800-Qcne-20231228180600"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Qcne-20231229134200-RoachPeter-20231229120800"></span>Hi @<a href="/wiki/User:RoachPeter" title="User:RoachPeter">RoachPeter</a>, thanks for working on it. You've an issue with the <b>Advertising</b> section, as it seems to be <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:OR" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:OR">original research</a>? It sounds a bit backwards but Wikipedia prohibits original research: articles should only summarise/paraphrase what existing published sources state about a topic.</dd> <dd>However I still do not believe the draft meets our notability guidelines I'm afraid to say. Sometimes a company or topic simply didn't make enough impact in reliable published secondary sources to meet our notability guidelines - this isn't uncommon as there have been millions of short lived companies through history!</dd> <dd>The existing articles Baker & Dale, Bell, etc are difficult because if those articles came through the articles for creation process they probably would not be accepted in their current form for the reasons above. Wikipedia guidelines on notability have tightened up over the years, and as a reviewer I am supposed to only look at a draft on it's own merits and not compare to any existing articles.</dd> <dd>Honestly though I am a little torn on this, as <b>Lington</b> is a <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:REDLINK" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:REDLINK">redlink</a> on the <a href="/wiki/Cyclecar" title="Cyclecar">Cyclecar</a> article and we do like to fill out redlinks when we come across them. I'd be happy for another reviewer to have a second opinion on this, but <i>only</i> once you've removed the original research mentioned above. If there is any local press about the advertising in Shrewsbury that discusses the history of the painted advert then that could help support the section.</dd> <dd>Hope that helps, <span style="background-color: RoyalBlue; border-radius: 1em; padding: 3px 3px 3px 3px;"><b><a href="/wiki/User:Qcne" title="User:Qcne"><span style="color: GhostWhite">Qcne</span></a></b> <small><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Qcne" title="User talk:Qcne"><span style="color: GhostWhite">(talk)</span></a></small></span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Qcne/Archives/2024/January#c-Qcne-20231229134200-RoachPeter-20231229120800" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:42, 29 December 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Qcne-20231229134200-RoachPeter-20231229120800"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Qcne-20231229134200-RoachPeter-20231229120800"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-RoachPeter-20231229161900-Qcne-20231229134200"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:Qcne" title="User:Qcne">Qcne</a>Thanks for quick reply. I will remove the material relating to the old advert. Apart from that, I can't make the Lington any more important than the description I have given, so I will have to leave it in your hands. I do think it would be regrettable to leave the link to Lington going nowhere, as at present, but that's not something I can intervene in. <a href="/wiki/User:RoachPeter" title="User:RoachPeter">RoachPeter</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:RoachPeter" title="User talk:RoachPeter">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Qcne/Archives/2024/January#c-RoachPeter-20231229161900-Qcne-20231229134200" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:19, 29 December 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-RoachPeter-20231229161900-Qcne-20231229134200"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-RoachPeter-20231229161900-Qcne-20231229134200"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-RoachPeter-20231229192600-RoachPeter-20231229161900"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:Qcne" title="User:Qcne">Qcne</a>I have now re-submitted the Lington cyclecar article, minus the stuff abiut the Shrewsbury advert. I hope I have gone about this in the right way <a href="/wiki/User:RoachPeter" title="User:RoachPeter">RoachPeter</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:RoachPeter" title="User talk:RoachPeter">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Qcne/Archives/2024/January#c-RoachPeter-20231229192600-RoachPeter-20231229161900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:26, 29 December 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-RoachPeter-20231229192600-RoachPeter-20231229161900"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-RoachPeter-20231229192600-RoachPeter-20231229161900"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Qcne-20231229194300-RoachPeter-20231229192600"></span>You have, yep. Though for me source #4 doesn't seem to work, it just links to a "No photo available" page? <span style="background-color: RoyalBlue; border-radius: 1em; padding: 3px 3px 3px 3px;"><b><a href="/wiki/User:Qcne" title="User:Qcne"><span style="color: GhostWhite">Qcne</span></a></b> <small><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Qcne" title="User talk:Qcne"><span style="color: GhostWhite">(talk)</span></a></small></span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Qcne/Archives/2024/January#c-Qcne-20231229194300-RoachPeter-20231229192600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:43, 29 December 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Qcne-20231229194300-RoachPeter-20231229192600"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Qcne-20231229194300-RoachPeter-20231229192600"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-RoachPeter-20231229215400-Qcne-20231229194300"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:Qcne" title="User:Qcne">Qcne</a> Thanks - that's odd! I have substituted a corrected ref that works (at the time of writing). <a href="/wiki/User:RoachPeter" title="User:RoachPeter">RoachPeter</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:RoachPeter" title="User talk:RoachPeter">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Qcne/Archives/2024/January#c-RoachPeter-20231229215400-Qcne-20231229194300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:54, 29 December 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-RoachPeter-20231229215400-Qcne-20231229194300"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-RoachPeter-20231229215400-Qcne-20231229194300"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="outdent-template" style="position:relative;left:1px;"><span style="display:block;width:16em;height:0.5em;border-bottom:1px solid #a2a9b1;border-right:1px solid #a2a9b1;"></span><span style="display:block;width:16em;height:0.5em;border-left:1px solid #a2a9b1;"></span></div><p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-AntientNestor-20240110161100-Lington_cyclecar_(rejection)"></span>I've had a fresh look at the draft but it still doesn't seem to describe a noteworthy piece of automobile history. As the <i>Motor Sport</i> article tells us, after an "auspicious start" the Lington "did not survive".--<a href="/wiki/User:AntientNestor" class="mw-redirect" title="User:AntientNestor">AntientNestor</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:AntientNestor" title="User talk:AntientNestor">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Qcne/Archives/2024/January#c-AntientNestor-20240110161100-Lington_cyclecar_(rejection)" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:11, 10 January 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-AntientNestor-20240110161100-Lington_cyclecar_(rejection)"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-AntientNestor-20240110161100-Lington_cyclecar_(rejection)"></span> </p><div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Deplorable_Instinct" data-mw-thread-id="h-Deplorable_Instinct-20240102203400"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Deplorable_Instinct-20240102203400"></span>Deplorable Instinct<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Deplorable_Instinct-20240102203400"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Aragove-20240102203400-Deplorable_Instinct"></span>Hey is there absolutely any way on gods green earth we could get the Deplorable Instinct article approved? It is a pretty legit book and it's difficult to prove but it does have quite an underground following and a lot of interest. <small class="autosigned">— Preceding <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Signatures" title="Wikipedia:Signatures">unsigned</a> comment added by <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Aragove&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Aragove (page does not exist)">Aragove</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Aragove#top" title="User talk:Aragove">talk</a> • <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Aragove" title="Special:Contributions/Aragove">contribs</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Qcne/Archives/2024/January#c-Aragove-20240102203400-Deplorable_Instinct" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:34, 2 January 2024 (UTC)</a></small><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Aragove-20240102203400-Deplorable_Instinct"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Aragove-20240102203400-Deplorable_Instinct"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Qcne-20240102204300-Aragove-20240102203400"></span>Hi @<a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Aragove&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Aragove (page does not exist)">Aragove</a>.</dd> <dd>By any chance are the author of this book? You used the plural "we"..</dd> <dd>In any case, no, sorry: books must pass the <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:NBOOK" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:NBOOK">WP:NBOOK</a> criteria and none of your sources prove that the book passes that. We'd need to see significant mainstream coverage of the book, such as reviews or discussions, in independent and reliable newspapers, websites, journals etc.</dd> <dd>Fandom, Twitter, Amazon are not independent/reliable sources. <span style="background-color: RoyalBlue; border-radius: 1em; padding: 3px 3px 3px 3px;"><b><a href="/wiki/User:Qcne" title="User:Qcne"><span style="color: GhostWhite">Qcne</span></a></b> <small><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Qcne" title="User talk:Qcne"><span style="color: GhostWhite">(talk)</span></a></small></span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Qcne/Archives/2024/January#c-Qcne-20240102204300-Aragove-20240102203400" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:43, 2 January 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Qcne-20240102204300-Aragove-20240102203400"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Qcne-20240102204300-Aragove-20240102203400"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Aragove-20240102223300-Qcne-20240102204300"></span>No I'm not, but I wanted to give it an article. <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Aragove&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Aragove (page does not exist)">Aragove</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Aragove" title="User talk:Aragove">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Qcne/Archives/2024/January#c-Aragove-20240102223300-Qcne-20240102204300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:33, 2 January 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Aragove-20240102223300-Qcne-20240102204300"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Aragove-20240102223300-Qcne-20240102204300"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Submission" data-mw-thread-id="h-Submission-20240103081900"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Submission-20240103081900"></span>Submission<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Submission-20240103081900"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-AkramHosny22-20240103081900-Submission"></span>Hello , Could you accept draft; Mustafa Hawash or tell me what is wrong in the article so I can edit them before asking for answer review ? <a href="/wiki/User:AkramHosny22" title="User:AkramHosny22">AkramHosny22</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:AkramHosny22" title="User talk:AkramHosny22">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Qcne/Archives/2024/January#c-AkramHosny22-20240103081900-Submission" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">08:19, 3 January 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-AkramHosny22-20240103081900-Submission"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-AkramHosny22-20240103081900-Submission"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vairankode_Vela" data-mw-thread-id="h-https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vairankode_Vela-20240103104200"><span id="https:.2F.2Fen.wikipedia.org.2Fwiki.2FVairankode_Vela"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vairankode_Vela-20240103104200"></span><a class="external free" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vairankode_Vela">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vairankode_Vela</a><span data-mw-comment-end="h-https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vairankode_Vela-20240103104200"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Vairankodepooram20-20240103104200-https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vairankode_Vela"></span>what is problem how to solving <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Vairankodepooram20&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Vairankodepooram20 (page does not exist)">Vairankodepooram20</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Vairankodepooram20" title="User talk:Vairankodepooram20">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Qcne/Archives/2024/January#c-Vairankodepooram20-20240103104200-https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vairankode_Vela" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:42, 3 January 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Vairankodepooram20-20240103104200-https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vairankode_Vela"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Vairankodepooram20-20240103104200-https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vairankode_Vela"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Qcne-20240103110500-Vairankodepooram20-20240103104200"></span>@<a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Vairankodepooram20&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Vairankodepooram20 (page does not exist)">Vairankodepooram20</a> why did you create a new article when you had one already rejected in Draft at <a href="/wiki/Draft:Vairankode_Vela" class="mw-redirect" title="Draft:Vairankode Vela">Draft:Vairankode_Vela</a>? <span style="background-color: RoyalBlue; border-radius: 1em; padding: 3px 3px 3px 3px;"><b><a href="/wiki/User:Qcne" title="User:Qcne"><span style="color: GhostWhite">Qcne</span></a></b> <small><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Qcne" title="User talk:Qcne"><span style="color: GhostWhite">(talk)</span></a></small></span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Qcne/Archives/2024/January#c-Qcne-20240103110500-Vairankodepooram20-20240103104200" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:05, 3 January 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Qcne-20240103110500-Vairankodepooram20-20240103104200"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Qcne-20240103110500-Vairankodepooram20-20240103104200"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Vairankodepooram20-20240103132800-Qcne-20240103110500"></span>Vairankode Vela or Theyat is one of the major village temple festivals of kerala <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Vairankodepooram20&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Vairankodepooram20 (page does not exist)">Vairankodepooram20</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Vairankodepooram20" title="User talk:Vairankodepooram20">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Qcne/Archives/2024/January#c-Vairankodepooram20-20240103132800-Qcne-20240103110500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:28, 3 January 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Vairankodepooram20-20240103132800-Qcne-20240103110500"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Vairankodepooram20-20240103132800-Qcne-20240103110500"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Qcne-20240103132900-Vairankodepooram20-20240103132800"></span>Okay, and? Your draft was rejected, so you went ahead and made a new inappropriate article anyway? Why did you do this? <span style="background-color: RoyalBlue; border-radius: 1em; padding: 3px 3px 3px 3px;"><b><a href="/wiki/User:Qcne" title="User:Qcne"><span style="color: GhostWhite">Qcne</span></a></b> <small><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Qcne" title="User talk:Qcne"><span style="color: GhostWhite">(talk)</span></a></small></span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Qcne/Archives/2024/January#c-Qcne-20240103132900-Vairankodepooram20-20240103132800" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:29, 3 January 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Qcne-20240103132900-Vairankodepooram20-20240103132800"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Qcne-20240103132900-Vairankodepooram20-20240103132800"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Vairankodepooram20-20240103134600-Vairankodepooram20-20240103104200"></span>If these pieces are published, I would appreciate your feedback. Kerala, India, is home to this well-known festival. <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Vairankodepooram20&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Vairankodepooram20 (page does not exist)">Vairankodepooram20</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Vairankodepooram20" title="User talk:Vairankodepooram20">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Qcne/Archives/2024/January#c-Vairankodepooram20-20240103134600-Vairankodepooram20-20240103104200" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:46, 3 January 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Vairankodepooram20-20240103134600-Vairankodepooram20-20240103104200"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Vairankodepooram20-20240103134600-Vairankodepooram20-20240103104200"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Qcne-20240103135000-Vairankodepooram20-20240103134600"></span>Your article was inappropriately created and I have asked for it to be deleted. What made you think it was appropriate to create this in mainspace after it was reviewed seven times as a draft before rejected? <span style="background-color: RoyalBlue; border-radius: 1em; padding: 3px 3px 3px 3px;"><b><a href="/wiki/User:Qcne" title="User:Qcne"><span style="color: GhostWhite">Qcne</span></a></b> <small><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Qcne" title="User talk:Qcne"><span style="color: GhostWhite">(talk)</span></a></small></span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Qcne/Archives/2024/January#c-Qcne-20240103135000-Vairankodepooram20-20240103134600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:50, 3 January 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Qcne-20240103135000-Vairankodepooram20-20240103134600"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Qcne-20240103135000-Vairankodepooram20-20240103134600"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Draft:Mayukhjit_Chakraborty_(musician)" data-mw-thread-id="h-Draft:Mayukhjit_Chakraborty_(musician)-20240103155700"><span id="Draft:Mayukhjit_Chakraborty_.28musician.29"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Draft:Mayukhjit_Chakraborty_(musician)-20240103155700"></span>Draft:Mayukhjit Chakraborty (musician)<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Draft:Mayukhjit_Chakraborty_(musician)-20240103155700"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Mayukhjitc-20240103155700-Draft:Mayukhjit_Chakraborty_(musician)"></span>Hi Qcne, just wanted to appeal to you regarding my submission of the draft Mayukhjit Chakraborty. The reason you had rejected it is due to its notability, however, in "WP:MN" criterion no. 9 it states " Has won first, second, or third place in a major music competition. ". The musician has won an international competition (the Galway Flute Festival) which was adjudicated and judged by the notable figure of Sir James Galway (he even has a wiki page himself) and the musician won first place. Also according to WP:MN it states a further reason of notability could be if the musician performed on a tv show, which the musician has. could you please reconsider your decision?? </p><p>thanks <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Mayukhjitc&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Mayukhjitc (page does not exist)">Mayukhjitc</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Mayukhjitc" title="User talk:Mayukhjitc">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Qcne/Archives/2024/January#c-Mayukhjitc-20240103155700-Draft:Mayukhjit_Chakraborty_(musician)" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:57, 3 January 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Mayukhjitc-20240103155700-Draft:Mayukhjit_Chakraborty_(musician)"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Mayukhjitc-20240103155700-Draft:Mayukhjit_Chakraborty_(musician)"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Qcne-20240103161500-Mayukhjitc-20240103155700"></span>Hi @<a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Mayukhjitc&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Mayukhjitc (page does not exist)">Mayukhjitc</a>, the draft has been deleted now due to it being unambiguous advertising. You can re-create the draft (or visit <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:REFUND" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:REFUND">WP:REFUND</a> to recover it from being deleted) but <i>please</i> ensure that:</dd> <dd>- it is written in a completely dry, factual, neutral way.</dd> <dd>- it has reliable, independent, secondary sources (not interviews, press releases, or from the subject's own website).</dd> <dd>- each fact/assertation/statement has an in-line citation (see the tutorial at <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:INTREFVE" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:INTREFVE">WP:INTREFVE</a>).</dd> <dd>If you can re-create the draft following those guidelines, but don't submit it for review and instead <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:PING" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:PING">WP:PING</a> me here I will have a look and let you know if it is suitable or not. <span style="background-color: RoyalBlue; border-radius: 1em; padding: 3px 3px 3px 3px;"><b><a href="/wiki/User:Qcne" title="User:Qcne"><span style="color: GhostWhite">Qcne</span></a></b> <small><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Qcne" title="User talk:Qcne"><span style="color: GhostWhite">(talk)</span></a></small></span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Qcne/Archives/2024/January#c-Qcne-20240103161500-Mayukhjitc-20240103155700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:15, 3 January 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Qcne-20240103161500-Mayukhjitc-20240103155700"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Qcne-20240103161500-Mayukhjitc-20240103155700"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Mayukhjitc-20240103161700-Qcne-20240103161500"></span>ok thanks, i will do that! cheers <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Mayukhjitc&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Mayukhjitc (page does not exist)">Mayukhjitc</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Mayukhjitc" title="User talk:Mayukhjitc">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Qcne/Archives/2024/January#c-Mayukhjitc-20240103161700-Qcne-20240103161500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:17, 3 January 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Mayukhjitc-20240103161700-Qcne-20240103161500"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Mayukhjitc-20240103161700-Qcne-20240103161500"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Mayukhjitc-20240103162900-Mayukhjitc-20240103161700"></span>yes its done here:</dd> <dd><a class="external free" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Mayukhjit_Chakraborty">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Mayukhjit_Chakraborty</a></dd> <dd>please review it</dd> <dd>i have made it as factual as possible, and cited sources, and no promotional marketing</dd> <dd>thanks in advance <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Mayukhjitc&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Mayukhjitc (page does not exist)">Mayukhjitc</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Mayukhjitc" title="User talk:Mayukhjitc">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Qcne/Archives/2024/January#c-Mayukhjitc-20240103162900-Mayukhjitc-20240103161700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:29, 3 January 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Mayukhjitc-20240103162900-Mayukhjitc-20240103161700"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Mayukhjitc-20240103162900-Mayukhjitc-20240103161700"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Qcne-20240103163200-Mayukhjitc-20240103162900"></span>Sorry @<a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Mayukhjitc&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Mayukhjitc (page does not exist)">Mayukhjitc</a>, that isn't quite right.</dd> <dd>We need full sources (URLs, names of websites, etc) so we can verify the information. i.e. for Reference #7, you've just got "London Olympics". What about the London Olympics? We need full details.</dd> <dd>Fundamentally though there is still no evidence you meet our notability criteria- yet. You may do some day! <span style="background-color: RoyalBlue; border-radius: 1em; padding: 3px 3px 3px 3px;"><b><a href="/wiki/User:Qcne" title="User:Qcne"><span style="color: GhostWhite">Qcne</span></a></b> <small><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Qcne" title="User talk:Qcne"><span style="color: GhostWhite">(talk)</span></a></small></span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Qcne/Archives/2024/January#c-Qcne-20240103163200-Mayukhjitc-20240103162900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:32, 3 January 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Qcne-20240103163200-Mayukhjitc-20240103162900"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Qcne-20240103163200-Mayukhjitc-20240103162900"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="A_beer_for_you!" data-mw-thread-id="h-A_beer_for_you!-20240103160000"><span id="A_beer_for_you.21"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-A_beer_for_you!-20240103160000"></span>A beer for you!<span data-mw-comment-end="h-A_beer_for_you!-20240103160000"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <table style="background-color: #fdffe7; border: 1px solid #fceb92;"> <tbody><tr> <td style="vertical-align: middle; padding: 5px;"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-DreamRimmer-20240103160000-A_beer_for_you!"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Export_hell_seidel_steiner.png" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/ba/Export_hell_seidel_steiner.png/70px-Export_hell_seidel_steiner.png" decoding="async" width="70" height="109" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/ba/Export_hell_seidel_steiner.png/105px-Export_hell_seidel_steiner.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/ba/Export_hell_seidel_steiner.png/140px-Export_hell_seidel_steiner.png 2x" data-file-width="500" data-file-height="777"/></a></span> </td> <td style="vertical-align: middle; padding: 3px;">Cheers for your hard work on Wikipedia! A cold beer is well-deserved for all your valuable contributions. – <a href="/wiki/User:DreamRimmer" title="User:DreamRimmer"><b style="color:black; font-family: Tahoma">DreamRimmer</b></a> (<b><a href="/wiki/User_talk:DreamRimmer" title="User talk:DreamRimmer">talk</a></b>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Qcne/Archives/2024/January#c-DreamRimmer-20240103160000-A_beer_for_you!" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:00, 3 January 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-DreamRimmer-20240103160000-A_beer_for_you!"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-DreamRimmer-20240103160000-A_beer_for_you!"></span> </td></tr></tbody></table> <dl><dd><span style="color: red" class="hearts" title="hearts"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Qcne-20240103161200-DreamRimmer-20240103160000"></span>♥</span> <span style="background-color: RoyalBlue; border-radius: 1em; padding: 3px 3px 3px 3px;"><b><a href="/wiki/User:Qcne" title="User:Qcne"><span style="color: GhostWhite">Qcne</span></a></b> <small><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Qcne" title="User talk:Qcne"><span style="color: GhostWhite">(talk)</span></a></small></span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Qcne/Archives/2024/January#c-Qcne-20240103161200-DreamRimmer-20240103160000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:12, 3 January 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Qcne-20240103161200-DreamRimmer-20240103160000"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Qcne-20240103161200-DreamRimmer-20240103160000"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Feed_Tha_Streets" data-mw-thread-id="h-Feed_Tha_Streets-20240104220300"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Feed_Tha_Streets-20240104220300"></span>Feed Tha Streets<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Feed_Tha_Streets-20240104220300"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-DallMarl29-1035347-20240104220300-Feed_Tha_Streets"></span>Hi Qcne, I remember how you said that genius isn't a good source, but I cannot find many sources of info on <a href="/w/index.php?title=Draft:Feed_Tha_Streets&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Draft:Feed Tha Streets (page does not exist)">Feed Tha Streets</a>, what should I do? thank you. <a href="/wiki/User:DallMarl29-1035347" title="User:DallMarl29-1035347">DallMarl29-1035347</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:DallMarl29-1035347" title="User talk:DallMarl29-1035347">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Qcne/Archives/2024/January#c-DallMarl29-1035347-20240104220300-Feed_Tha_Streets" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:03, 4 January 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-DallMarl29-1035347-20240104220300-Feed_Tha_Streets"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-DallMarl29-1035347-20240104220300-Feed_Tha_Streets"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Draft:_Mekai_Curtis" data-mw-thread-id="h-Draft:_Mekai_Curtis-20240105005100"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Draft:_Mekai_Curtis-20240105005100"></span>Draft: Mekai Curtis<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Draft:_Mekai_Curtis-20240105005100"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Hcaandersen-20240105005100-Draft:_Mekai_Curtis"></span>Hi Qcne, thank you for considering my submission. I've added two more citations (Bleu Magazine and Essence). I've also added some cross-references. If it's still not enough, can you please tell me what I can do to get this submission over the line? As an age-old Wikipedia user, contributor and sponsor, I think there's no doubt that Wikipedia needs an article about any actor who plays the <b>title character</b> in a <b>major <u>multi-season</u> Netflix drama</b>, so it must be getting rejected on technicalities. Please let me know what I need to do to rectify this. <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Hcaandersen&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Hcaandersen (page does not exist)">Hcaandersen</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Hcaandersen" title="User talk:Hcaandersen">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Qcne/Archives/2024/January#c-Hcaandersen-20240105005100-Draft:_Mekai_Curtis" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:51, 5 January 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Hcaandersen-20240105005100-Draft:_Mekai_Curtis"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Hcaandersen-20240105005100-Draft:_Mekai_Curtis"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Qcne-20240105092100-Hcaandersen-20240105005100"></span>Hi @<a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Hcaandersen&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Hcaandersen (page does not exist)">Hcaandersen</a>. I agree that an actor who plays the title character in a major multi-season Netflix drama is "notable" by the normal definition, but we use a special definition on Wikipedia about notability. To prove notability here, we need to see significant coverage in multiple independent reliable secondary sources. I'm going to go through your sources one by one: <ol><li>people: is a very brief interview with Mekai, so can't be used to establish notability.</li> <li>primalinformation: not a reliable source as it's just a Wordpress blog someone random has made to collect details on celebrities. If you can find where they got their sources from that would be useful.</li> <li>hollywoodreporter: this is an okay source, but I think it is mostly regurgitating a press release from APA about his signing.</li> <li>variety: this source works.</li> <li>bleumag: another interview, so can't be used to establish notability.</li> <li>essence: another interview, so can't be used to establish notability.</li> <li>imdb: cannot be used to establish notability (see <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:IMDB" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:IMDB">WP:IMDB</a>).</li></ol></dd> <dd>I know this process seems really frustrating and unintuitive! We have strict guidelines on entertainers since the process is abused daily by promotors spamming "up and coming" entertainers to Wikipedia which is obviously contrary to our purpose.</dd> <dd>I actually think you're nearly there with this article. One or two more sources which are very specifically not interviews or press releases would nudge it over the line into acceptance territory. If you can find some, let me know, and I'll have another look. Hope that helps, <span style="background-color: RoyalBlue; border-radius: 1em; padding: 3px 3px 3px 3px;"><b><a href="/wiki/User:Qcne" title="User:Qcne"><span style="color: GhostWhite">Qcne</span></a></b> <small><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Qcne" title="User talk:Qcne"><span style="color: GhostWhite">(talk)</span></a></small></span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Qcne/Archives/2024/January#c-Qcne-20240105092100-Hcaandersen-20240105005100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:21, 5 January 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Qcne-20240105092100-Hcaandersen-20240105005100"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Qcne-20240105092100-Hcaandersen-20240105005100"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="How_to_edit_my_new_entry_on_curator_Oindrilla_Maity_Surai_so_that_it_can_be_accepted?_Please_help." data-mw-thread-id="h-How_to_edit_my_new_entry_on_curator_Oindrilla_Maity_Surai_so_that_it_can_be_acce-20240105111800"><span id="How_to_edit_my_new_entry_on_curator_Oindrilla_Maity_Surai_so_that_it_can_be_accepted.3F_Please_help."></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-How_to_edit_my_new_entry_on_curator_Oindrilla_Maity_Surai_so_that_it_can_be_acce-20240105111800"></span>How to edit my new entry on curator Oindrilla Maity Surai so that it can be accepted? Please help.<span data-mw-comment-end="h-How_to_edit_my_new_entry_on_curator_Oindrilla_Maity_Surai_so_that_it_can_be_acce-20240105111800"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Basuproma-20240105111800-How_to_edit_my_new_entry_on_curator_Oindrilla_Maity_Surai_so_that_it_can_be_acce"></span>Here is the link to the entry: <a class="external free" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Draft:Oindrilla_Maity_Surai&action=edit">https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Draft:Oindrilla_Maity_Surai&action=edit</a> </p><p>~~~~ <a href="/wiki/User:Basuproma" title="User:Basuproma">Basuproma</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Basuproma" title="User talk:Basuproma">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Qcne/Archives/2024/January#c-Basuproma-20240105111800-How_to_edit_my_new_entry_on_curator_Oindrilla_Maity_Surai_so_that_it_can_be_acce" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:18, 5 January 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Basuproma-20240105111800-How_to_edit_my_new_entry_on_curator_Oindrilla_Maity_Surai_so_that_it_can_be_acce"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Basuproma-20240105111800-How_to_edit_my_new_entry_on_curator_Oindrilla_Maity_Surai_so_that_it_can_be_acce"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Qcne-20240105112700-Basuproma-20240105111800"></span>Hi @<a href="/wiki/User:Basuproma" title="User:Basuproma">Basuproma</a>.</dd> <dd>You need to find reliable, independent, secondary sources that cover Oindrilla in detail, and then summarise them in your own words. That should make up the content of your draft. Note that the sources must be: <dl><dd>- <b><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Reliable_sources" title="Wikipedia:Reliable sources">Reliable</a></b>: Your draft should rely on strong, reliable sources that are published by reputable institutions. Primary sources can be used for basic facts (such as a date of birth), but they should be supplemented with strong secondary sources that offer analysis or interpretation.</dd> <dd>- <b><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Independent_sources" title="Wikipedia:Independent sources">Independent</a></b>: Your sources should be independent of the subject, for example not self-published or from the subject's own website.</dd> <dd>- <b><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:What_is_significant_coverage%3F" title="Wikipedia:What is significant coverage?">Show significant coverage</a></b>: Your subject should be discussed in detail in the sources you find. The sources should provide in-depth information or analysis about the subject, going beyond basic facts or promotional material.</dd> <dd>- <b><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Multiple_sources" title="Wikipedia:Multiple sources">From multiple places</a></b>: You should find at least three separate reliable, independent, secondary sources that discuss your subject.</dd> <dd>- <b><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:No_original_research" title="Wikipedia:No original research">Not original research</a></b>: Wikipedia articles should summarise existing knowledge about a subject, not present new research. This means you should avoid drawing your own conclusions or analyses from the sources. Stick to summarising what the sources say in a neutral tone.</dd></dl></dd> <dd>Remember that your article should be written from a <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Neutral_point_of_view" title="Wikipedia:Neutral point of view">Wikipedia:Neutral point of view</a>.</dd> <dd>If you cannot find multiple, reliable, and independent sources then I am afraid that Oindrilla would not meet the <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Notability" title="Wikipedia:Notability">notability threshold</a> at this time and therefore <b>cannot have a Wikipedia article</b>. Remember that <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_is_not" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:Wikipedia is not">Wikipedia is not a place</a> for any type of self-promotion or advertisement. Wikipedia is an encyclopaedia: not an advertising platform, directory, or a way to promote a subject.</dd> <dd>Finally, please note that if you are connected in any way to Oindrilla then you must declare your <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Conflict_of_interest" title="Wikipedia:Conflict of interest">Wikipedia:Conflict of interest</a>. <span style="background-color: RoyalBlue; border-radius: 1em; padding: 3px 3px 3px 3px;"><b><a href="/wiki/User:Qcne" title="User:Qcne"><span style="color: GhostWhite">Qcne</span></a></b> <small><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Qcne" title="User talk:Qcne"><span style="color: GhostWhite">(talk)</span></a></small></span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Qcne/Archives/2024/January#c-Qcne-20240105112700-Basuproma-20240105111800" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:27, 5 January 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Qcne-20240105112700-Basuproma-20240105111800"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Qcne-20240105112700-Basuproma-20240105111800"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Basuproma-20240105120900-Qcne-20240105112700"></span>Dear Qcne, I have probably understood the problem. I shall rework on my draft before I get back to you for your suggestions. Thanks so much!~~~~ <a href="/wiki/User:Basuproma" title="User:Basuproma">Basuproma</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Basuproma" title="User talk:Basuproma">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Qcne/Archives/2024/January#c-Basuproma-20240105120900-Qcne-20240105112700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:09, 5 January 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Basuproma-20240105120900-Qcne-20240105112700"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Basuproma-20240105120900-Qcne-20240105112700"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="my_article_three_time_rejected" data-mw-thread-id="h-my_article_three_time_rejected-20240105113500"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-my_article_three_time_rejected-20240105113500"></span>my article three time rejected<span data-mw-comment-end="h-my_article_three_time_rejected-20240105113500"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Vairankodepooram20-20240105113500-my_article_three_time_rejected"></span>vairankode vela three time rejeted, if anyone please help me in vairankode vela, </p><p>references list, is mentioned vairankode vela <a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="https://www.researchgate.net/publication/343012227_Katala_vesa_On_Revisiting_the_Hunter">https://www.researchgate.net/publication/343012227_Katala_vesa_On_Revisiting_the_Hunter</a> <a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="https://www.malappuramonline.in/city-guide/culture-of-malappuram">https://www.malappuramonline.in/city-guide/culture-of-malappuram</a> <a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="https://www.thehindu.com/todays-paper/tp-national/tp-kerala/article22841025.ece">https://www.thehindu.com/todays-paper/tp-national/tp-kerala/article22841025.ece</a> <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Vairankodepooram20&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Vairankodepooram20 (page does not exist)">Vairankodepooram20</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Vairankodepooram20" title="User talk:Vairankodepooram20">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Qcne/Archives/2024/January#c-Vairankodepooram20-20240105113500-my_article_three_time_rejected" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:35, 5 January 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Vairankodepooram20-20240105113500-my_article_three_time_rejected"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Vairankodepooram20-20240105113500-my_article_three_time_rejected"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Qcne-20240105115900-Vairankodepooram20-20240105113500"></span>It has been rejected @<a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Vairankodepooram20&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Vairankodepooram20 (page does not exist)">Vairankodepooram20</a>, please find something else to work on. <span style="background-color: RoyalBlue; border-radius: 1em; padding: 3px 3px 3px 3px;"><b><a href="/wiki/User:Qcne" title="User:Qcne"><span style="color: GhostWhite">Qcne</span></a></b> <small><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Qcne" title="User talk:Qcne"><span style="color: GhostWhite">(talk)</span></a></small></span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Qcne/Archives/2024/January#c-Qcne-20240105115900-Vairankodepooram20-20240105113500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:59, 5 January 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Qcne-20240105115900-Vairankodepooram20-20240105113500"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Qcne-20240105115900-Vairankodepooram20-20240105113500"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Request_on_18:18:39,_6_January_2024_for_assistance_on_AfC_submission_by_Shaykhul2004" data-mw-thread-id="h-Request_on_18:18:39,_6_January_2024_for_assistance_on_AfC_submission_by_Shaykhul-20240106181800"><span id="Request_on_18:18:39.2C_6_January_2024_for_assistance_on_AfC_submission_by_Shaykhul2004"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Request_on_18:18:39,_6_January_2024_for_assistance_on_AfC_submission_by_Shaykhul-20240106181800"></span>Request on 18:18:39, 6 January 2024 for assistance on <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_creation" title="Wikipedia:Articles for creation">AfC</a> submission by Shaykhul2004<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Request_on_18:18:39,_6_January_2024_for_assistance_on_AfC_submission_by_Shaykhul-20240106181800"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span class="anchor" id="18:18:39,_6_January_2024_review_of_submission_by_Shaykhul2004"></span> </p> <ul><li><a href="/wiki/User:Shaykhul2004" title="User:Shaykhul2004"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Shaykhul2004-20240106181800-Request_on_18:18:39,_6_January_2024_for_assistance_on_AfC_submission_by_Shaykhul"></span>Shaykhul2004</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Shaykhul2004" title="User talk:Shaykhul2004">talk</a> <b>·</b> <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Shaykhul2004" title="Special:Contributions/Shaykhul2004">contribs</a>) <ul><li class="mw-empty-elt"></li> <li><span class="plainlinks nourlexpansion lx"><a href="/wiki/Draft:Artificial_Intelligence_in_Healthcare" title="Draft:Artificial Intelligence in Healthcare">Draft:Artificial Intelligence in Healthcare</a> <span style="font-size:90%;">(<a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Draft:Artificial_Intelligence_in_Healthcare&action=edit">edit</a> | <a href="/wiki/Draft_talk:Artificial_Intelligence_in_Healthcare" title="Draft talk:Artificial Intelligence in Healthcare">talk</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Draft:Artificial_Intelligence_in_Healthcare&action=history">history</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Whatlinkshere/Draft:Artificial_Intelligence_in_Healthcare">links</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Draft:Artificial_Intelligence_in_Healthcare&action=watch">watch</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Log&page=Draft%3AArtificial+Intelligence+in+Healthcare">logs</a>)</span></span></li></ul></li></ul> <p><br/> </p><p><br/> <a href="/wiki/User:Shaykhul2004" title="User:Shaykhul2004">Shaykhul2004</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Shaykhul2004" title="User talk:Shaykhul2004">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Qcne/Archives/2024/January#c-Shaykhul2004-20240106181800-Request_on_18:18:39,_6_January_2024_for_assistance_on_AfC_submission_by_Shaykhul" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:18, 6 January 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Shaykhul2004-20240106181800-Request_on_18:18:39,_6_January_2024_for_assistance_on_AfC_submission_by_Shaykhul"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Shaykhul2004-20240106181800-Request_on_18:18:39,_6_January_2024_for_assistance_on_AfC_submission_by_Shaykhul"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Qcne-20240106183600-Shaykhul2004-20240106181800"></span>Do you have a question? @<a href="/wiki/User:Shaykhul2004" title="User:Shaykhul2004">Shaykhul2004</a> <span style="background-color: RoyalBlue; border-radius: 1em; padding: 3px 3px 3px 3px;"><b><a href="/wiki/User:Qcne" title="User:Qcne"><span style="color: GhostWhite">Qcne</span></a></b> <small><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Qcne" title="User talk:Qcne"><span style="color: GhostWhite">(talk)</span></a></small></span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Qcne/Archives/2024/January#c-Qcne-20240106183600-Shaykhul2004-20240106181800" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:36, 6 January 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Qcne-20240106183600-Shaykhul2004-20240106181800"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Qcne-20240106183600-Shaykhul2004-20240106181800"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Declined_Wiki_Page" data-mw-thread-id="h-Declined_Wiki_Page-20240108172700"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Declined_Wiki_Page-20240108172700"></span>Declined Wiki Page<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Declined_Wiki_Page-20240108172700"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Treywren-20240108172700-Declined_Wiki_Page"></span>Hello, I submitted a page for my CEO and it was declined. What needs to change to get approval? More sources? He and his major development project have been the subject of dozens of major media articles. Is that not enough to get a page? <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Treywren&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Treywren (page does not exist)">Treywren</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Treywren" title="User talk:Treywren">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Qcne/Archives/2024/January#c-Treywren-20240108172700-Declined_Wiki_Page" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:27, 8 January 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Treywren-20240108172700-Declined_Wiki_Page"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Treywren-20240108172700-Declined_Wiki_Page"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Qcne-20240108173500-Treywren-20240108172700"></span>Hi @<a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Treywren&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Treywren (page does not exist)">Treywren</a>.</dd> <dd>You must <b>immediately</b> make a paid editing and conflict of interest disclosure by following the instructions at <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:PAID" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:PAID">WP:PAID</a> and <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:COI" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:COI">WP:COI</a>. Failure to do so is a breach of Wikimedia Terms and Conditions and may result in your account being blocked.</dd> <dd>I'd also highly recommend reading the following essay: <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:BOSS" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:BOSS">When your boss tells you to edit Wikipedia</a> (and perhaps showing your boss too?).</dd> <dd>I'm sorry your boss has asked you to write an article about him, it has put you in a difficult situation. Many people think that Wikipedia is just a business directory. Wikipedia is not a vehicle to promote people or businesses: instead we are an online encyclopaedia with articles about <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Notability" title="Wikipedia:Notability">notable topics</a>. You didn't prove your boss meets our notability criteria for people.</dd> <dd>Let me know if you have any questions, <span style="background-color: RoyalBlue; border-radius: 1em; padding: 3px 3px 3px 3px;"><b><a href="/wiki/User:Qcne" title="User:Qcne"><span style="color: GhostWhite">Qcne</span></a></b> <small><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Qcne" title="User talk:Qcne"><span style="color: GhostWhite">(talk)</span></a></small></span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Qcne/Archives/2024/January#c-Qcne-20240108173500-Treywren-20240108172700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:35, 8 January 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Qcne-20240108173500-Treywren-20240108172700"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Qcne-20240108173500-Treywren-20240108172700"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="From_the_Greenland_Migration_page_creator" data-mw-thread-id="h-From_the_Greenland_Migration_page_creator-20240110212100"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-From_the_Greenland_Migration_page_creator-20240110212100"></span>From the Greenland Migration page creator<span data-mw-comment-end="h-From_the_Greenland_Migration_page_creator-20240110212100"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-TheEpicApartmentLord-20240110212100-From_the_Greenland_Migration_page_creator"></span>Sure. <a href="/wiki/User:TheEpicApartmentLord" title="User:TheEpicApartmentLord">TheEpicApartmentLord</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:TheEpicApartmentLord" title="User talk:TheEpicApartmentLord">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Qcne/Archives/2024/January#c-TheEpicApartmentLord-20240110212100-From_the_Greenland_Migration_page_creator" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:21, 10 January 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-TheEpicApartmentLord-20240110212100-From_the_Greenland_Migration_page_creator"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-TheEpicApartmentLord-20240110212100-From_the_Greenland_Migration_page_creator"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Qcne-20240110212400-TheEpicApartmentLord-20240110212100"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:TheEpicApartmentLord" title="User:TheEpicApartmentLord">TheEpicApartmentLord</a> we'd also prefer in-line citations for each reference - as it allows reads to see what statement is sourced to what reference. The tutorial on doing this is at <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:INTREFVE" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:INTREFVE">WP:INTREFVE</a>, and I would highly recommend doing this. The draft is likely ready for acceptance if you do that. <span style="background-color: RoyalBlue; border-radius: 1em; padding: 3px 3px 3px 3px;"><b><a href="/wiki/User:Qcne" title="User:Qcne"><span style="color: GhostWhite">Qcne</span></a></b> <small><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Qcne" title="User talk:Qcne"><span style="color: GhostWhite">(talk)</span></a></small></span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Qcne/Archives/2024/January#c-Qcne-20240110212400-TheEpicApartmentLord-20240110212100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:24, 10 January 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Qcne-20240110212400-TheEpicApartmentLord-20240110212100"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Qcne-20240110212400-TheEpicApartmentLord-20240110212100"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-TheEpicApartmentLord-20240111135400-Qcne-20240110212400"></span>Ok. <a href="/wiki/User:TheEpicApartmentLord" title="User:TheEpicApartmentLord">TheEpicApartmentLord</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:TheEpicApartmentLord" title="User talk:TheEpicApartmentLord">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Qcne/Archives/2024/January#c-TheEpicApartmentLord-20240111135400-Qcne-20240110212400" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:54, 11 January 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-TheEpicApartmentLord-20240111135400-Qcne-20240110212400"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-TheEpicApartmentLord-20240111135400-Qcne-20240110212400"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Draft:David_Kordansky_Gallery" data-mw-thread-id="h-Draft:David_Kordansky_Gallery-20240110223200"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Draft:David_Kordansky_Gallery-20240110223200"></span>Draft:David Kordansky Gallery<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Draft:David_Kordansky_Gallery-20240110223200"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Raining_rane-20240110223200-Draft:David_Kordansky_Gallery"></span>Dear <b><a href="/wiki/User:Qcne" title="User:Qcne">Qcne</a>,</b> thank your time and consideration in reviewing my draft on <a href="/wiki/Draft:David_Kordansky_Gallery" class="mw-redirect" title="Draft:David Kordansky Gallery">Draft:David Kordansky Gallery</a>. I had a deep look at it and agree with your critique. I wrote a version with four sources, but sources that convey simple factual information and ones that moreso convey signs of notability are both needed. I believe the sources here are of a high caliber. Could you have a look at my most recent update? OR would you prefer I take it to a help desk/the Tea Room first? BR, <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Raining_rane&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Raining rane (page does not exist)">Raining rane</a> : ) </p><p><a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Raining_rane&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Raining rane (page does not exist)">Raining rane</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Raining_rane" title="User talk:Raining rane">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Qcne/Archives/2024/January#c-Raining_rane-20240110223200-Draft:David_Kordansky_Gallery" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:32, 10 January 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Raining_rane-20240110223200-Draft:David_Kordansky_Gallery"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Raining_rane-20240110223200-Draft:David_Kordansky_Gallery"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Qcne-20240111084000-Raining_rane-20240110223200"></span>I think that just about puts it over the edge, and have accepted. Please add some <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:CATEGORIES" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:CATEGORIES">WP:CATEGORIES</a>. <span style="background-color: RoyalBlue; border-radius: 1em; padding: 3px 3px 3px 3px;"><b><a href="/wiki/User:Qcne" title="User:Qcne"><span style="color: GhostWhite">Qcne</span></a></b> <small><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Qcne" title="User talk:Qcne"><span style="color: GhostWhite">(talk)</span></a></small></span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Qcne/Archives/2024/January#c-Qcne-20240111084000-Raining_rane-20240110223200" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">08:40, 11 January 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Qcne-20240111084000-Raining_rane-20240110223200"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Qcne-20240111084000-Raining_rane-20240110223200"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Raining_rane-20240111121700-Qcne-20240111084000"></span>Great, will do! <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Raining_rane&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Raining rane (page does not exist)">Raining rane</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Raining_rane" title="User talk:Raining rane">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Qcne/Archives/2024/January#c-Raining_rane-20240111121700-Qcne-20240111084000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:17, 11 January 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Raining_rane-20240111121700-Qcne-20240111084000"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Raining_rane-20240111121700-Qcne-20240111084000"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="It_wasn’t_a_mistake" data-mw-thread-id="h-It_wasn’t_a_mistake-20240111134600"><span id="It_wasn.E2.80.99t_a_mistake"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-It_wasn’t_a_mistake-20240111134600"></span>It wasn’t a mistake<span data-mw-comment-end="h-It_wasn’t_a_mistake-20240111134600"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Seawolf35-20240111134600-It_wasn’t_a_mistake"></span>Yeah, I will get around to fixing the rest of the mess that I created. What happened is that I endorsed a PROD but left a PROD template on the creators talk page. I went to remove the message and I was trying to use the mass rollback tool to provide an edit summary for it. I was t trying to hit the rollback selected button but I hit rollback all and didn’t realize it before it was too late. Then I tried to rollback the rollbacks, that didn’t work, but I had the 500 entry contribs page up. The collateral was quite spectacular. I undid declines on around 25 drafts I think, that is why there were suddenly and 25 draft submissions in one second a few hours ago. As well as the collateral included around 15 cfd closes. I have to manually revert all the mistakes. Thanks for fixing one, <span style="font-family:Papyrus; color:#800080;"><a href="/wiki/User:Seawolf35" title="User:Seawolf35">Seawolf35</a></span> <sup style="font-family: Times New Roman; color: #006400;"><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Seawolf35" title="User talk:Seawolf35"><i><b>T</b></i></a>--<a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Seawolf35" title="Special:Contributions/Seawolf35"><i><b>C</b></i></a></sup> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Qcne/Archives/2024/January#c-Seawolf35-20240111134600-It_wasn’t_a_mistake" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:46, 11 January 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Seawolf35-20240111134600-It_wasn’t_a_mistake"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Seawolf35-20240111134600-It_wasn’t_a_mistake"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Qcne-20240111135200-Seawolf35-20240111134600"></span>Oh no! 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Although I changed a lot of references, the feedback I received was 'reliable, secondary sources that are independent of the subject'. Could you please give me an example to point out which reference has a problem? </p><p>Thanks a lot!!! <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:JustinYuAu&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:JustinYuAu (page does not exist)">JustinYuAu</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:JustinYuAu" title="User talk:JustinYuAu">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Qcne/Archives/2024/January#c-JustinYuAu-20240115032000-Qcne,_I_Need_Your_Assistance_About_Draft:Hou_Xiaonan" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">03:20, 15 January 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-JustinYuAu-20240115032000-Qcne,_I_Need_Your_Assistance_About_Draft:Hou_Xiaonan"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-JustinYuAu-20240115032000-Qcne,_I_Need_Your_Assistance_About_Draft:Hou_Xiaonan"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Qcne-20240115173000-JustinYuAu-20240115032000"></span>H @<a href="/w/index.php?title=User:JustinYuAu&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:JustinYuAu (page does not exist)">JustinYuAu</a>. I'll go through your sources one by one: <ol><li>a database entry.</li> <li>a database entry.</li> <li>an interview, so cannot be used to establish notability.</li> <li>this is an okay source.</li></ol></dd> <dd>To prove notability we usually need three sources that are independent, reliable, and show significant coverage. Only one (the fourth) matches those criteria on your draft. <span style="background-color: RoyalBlue; border-radius: 1em; padding: 3px 3px 3px 3px;"><b><a href="/wiki/User:Qcne" title="User:Qcne"><span style="color: GhostWhite">Qcne</span></a></b> <small><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Qcne" title="User talk:Qcne"><span style="color: GhostWhite">(talk)</span></a></small></span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Qcne/Archives/2024/January#c-Qcne-20240115173000-JustinYuAu-20240115032000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:30, 15 January 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Qcne-20240115173000-JustinYuAu-20240115032000"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Qcne-20240115173000-JustinYuAu-20240115032000"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Yeshivazon_Page" data-mw-thread-id="h-Yeshivazon_Page-20240115032000"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Yeshivazon_Page-20240115032000"></span>Yeshivazon Page<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Yeshivazon_Page-20240115032000"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Joshfriedman65-20240115032000-Yeshivazon_Page"></span>Hi thank you for your feedback on the yeshivazon page. I have made extensive changes based on your feedback. I would love to hear your thoughts and if there are any changes that you would suggest. <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Joshfriedman65&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Joshfriedman65 (page does not exist)">Joshfriedman65</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Joshfriedman65" title="User talk:Joshfriedman65">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Qcne/Archives/2024/January#c-Joshfriedman65-20240115032000-Yeshivazon_Page" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">03:20, 15 January 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Joshfriedman65-20240115032000-Yeshivazon_Page"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Joshfriedman65-20240115032000-Yeshivazon_Page"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Qcne-20240115172700-Joshfriedman65-20240115032000"></span>I see your draft was deleted. To recover, please go to <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:REFUND" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:REFUND">WP:REFUND</a>. <span style="background-color: RoyalBlue; border-radius: 1em; padding: 3px 3px 3px 3px;"><b><a href="/wiki/User:Qcne" title="User:Qcne"><span style="color: GhostWhite">Qcne</span></a></b> <small><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Qcne" title="User talk:Qcne"><span style="color: GhostWhite">(talk)</span></a></small></span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Qcne/Archives/2024/January#c-Qcne-20240115172700-Joshfriedman65-20240115032000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:27, 15 January 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Qcne-20240115172700-Joshfriedman65-20240115032000"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Qcne-20240115172700-Joshfriedman65-20240115032000"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="INTREFVE" data-mw-thread-id="h-INTREFVE-20240117205700"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-INTREFVE-20240117205700"></span>INTREFVE<span data-mw-comment-end="h-INTREFVE-20240117205700"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-S0091-20240117205700-INTREFVE"></span>Thank you for pointing out <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:INTREFVE" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:INTREFVE">WP:INTREFVE</a> in your responses at the AfC Help Desk. Previously I pointed new editors to <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:ERB" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:ERB">WP:ERB</a> which at least showed VE as an option as I did not know those VE guides existed and <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:REFBEGIN" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:REFBEGIN">WP:REFBEGIN</a> only provides guidance about using Source Editor which I think is cruel to new editors. I don't know about you, but I only use Source Editor if I have to. <a href="/wiki/User:S0091" title="User:S0091">S0091</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:S0091" title="User talk:S0091">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Qcne/Archives/2024/January#c-S0091-20240117205700-INTREFVE" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:57, 17 January 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-S0091-20240117205700-INTREFVE"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-S0091-20240117205700-INTREFVE"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Qcne-20240117210600-S0091-20240117205700"></span>Mm, I agree on the Source Editor. I know that the VE isn't perfect but as a (relatively new) editor it is far easier. I feel the full VE user guide is quite a bit more user friendly than most of our policy and guideline pages. <span style="background-color: RoyalBlue; border-radius: 1em; padding: 3px 3px 3px 3px;"><b><a href="/wiki/User:Qcne" title="User:Qcne"><span style="color: GhostWhite">Qcne</span></a></b> <small><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Qcne" title="User talk:Qcne"><span style="color: GhostWhite">(talk)</span></a></small></span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Qcne/Archives/2024/January#c-Qcne-20240117210600-S0091-20240117205700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:06, 17 January 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Qcne-20240117210600-S0091-20240117205700"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Qcne-20240117210600-S0091-20240117205700"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id=""Mark_Prihodko"_draft_review" data-mw-thread-id="h-"Mark_Prihodko"_draft_review-20240118010000"><span id=".22Mark_Prihodko.22_draft_review"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-"Mark_Prihodko"_draft_review-20240118010000"></span>"Mark Prihodko" draft review<span data-mw-comment-end="h-"Mark_Prihodko"_draft_review-20240118010000"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Tacit_Murky-20240118010000-"Mark_Prihodko"_draft_review"></span>Hello. This <a href="/wiki/Draft:Mark_Prihodko#Early_Life" class="mw-redirect" title="Draft:Mark Prihodko">Draft:Mark Prihodko</a> was declined on 13 December by you and noted: «We need in-line citations for every statement». I accidentally came along and decided to fix things. While not every statement is backed up yet, I'd like you to review the updated version before upcoming publish attempt. Thanks. <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Tacit_Murky&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Tacit Murky (page does not exist)">Tacit Murky</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Tacit_Murky" title="User talk:Tacit Murky">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Qcne/Archives/2024/January#c-Tacit_Murky-20240118010000-"Mark_Prihodko"_draft_review" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">01:00, 18 January 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Tacit_Murky-20240118010000-"Mark_Prihodko"_draft_review"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Tacit_Murky-20240118010000-"Mark_Prihodko"_draft_review"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Qcne-20240118090100-Tacit_Murky-20240118010000"></span>Hi @<a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Tacit_Murky&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Tacit Murky (page does not exist)">Tacit Murky</a>, that's certainly better. A few more things:</dd> <dd>- we need an inline citation for his date of birth.</dd> <dd>- you can re-use ref #3 for "He made his debut at the age of 9 at the Musica Mundi festival in Belgium and Chat el Ro concert series in France" in the lead paragraph.</dd> <dd>- <b>education</b> is still fully unsourced.</dd> <dd>- I would remove the word "renowned" as it breaks <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:NPOV" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:NPOV">WP:NPOV</a>. <span style="background-color: RoyalBlue; border-radius: 1em; padding: 3px 3px 3px 3px;"><b><a href="/wiki/User:Qcne" title="User:Qcne"><span style="color: GhostWhite">Qcne</span></a></b> <small><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Qcne" title="User talk:Qcne"><span style="color: GhostWhite">(talk)</span></a></small></span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Qcne/Archives/2024/January#c-Qcne-20240118090100-Tacit_Murky-20240118010000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:01, 18 January 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Qcne-20240118090100-Tacit_Murky-20240118010000"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Qcne-20240118090100-Tacit_Murky-20240118010000"></span></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Tacit_Murky-20240120061900-Qcne-20240118090100"></span>Fixed everything. Please review. <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Tacit_Murky&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Tacit Murky (page does not exist)">Tacit Murky</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Tacit_Murky" title="User talk:Tacit Murky">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Qcne/Archives/2024/January#c-Tacit_Murky-20240120061900-Qcne-20240118090100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">06:19, 20 January 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Tacit_Murky-20240120061900-Qcne-20240118090100"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Tacit_Murky-20240120061900-Qcne-20240118090100"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Oindrilla_Maity_Surai" data-mw-thread-id="h-Oindrilla_Maity_Surai-20240118183500"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Oindrilla_Maity_Surai-20240118183500"></span>Oindrilla Maity Surai<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Oindrilla_Maity_Surai-20240118183500"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Basuproma-20240118183500-Oindrilla_Maity_Surai"></span>Hi! Qcne,could you please let me know if my draft is alright now? Thanks so much. Here's the link below to my draft: </p><p><a class="external free" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Draft:Oindrilla_Maity_Surai&action=edit">https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Draft:Oindrilla_Maity_Surai&action=edit</a> <a href="/wiki/User:Basuproma" title="User:Basuproma">Basuproma</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Basuproma" title="User talk:Basuproma">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Qcne/Archives/2024/January#c-Basuproma-20240118183500-Oindrilla_Maity_Surai" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:35, 18 January 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Basuproma-20240118183500-Oindrilla_Maity_Surai"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Basuproma-20240118183500-Oindrilla_Maity_Surai"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Qcne-20240118185400-Basuproma-20240118183500"></span>Please convert your external links into proper in-line citations by following the tutorial at <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:INTREFVE" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:INTREFVE">WP:INTREFVE</a>. It'll then automatically generate a list of references. <span style="background-color: RoyalBlue; border-radius: 1em; padding: 3px 3px 3px 3px;"><b><a href="/wiki/User:Qcne" title="User:Qcne"><span style="color: GhostWhite">Qcne</span></a></b> <small><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Qcne" title="User talk:Qcne"><span style="color: GhostWhite">(talk)</span></a></small></span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Qcne/Archives/2024/January#c-Qcne-20240118185400-Basuproma-20240118183500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:54, 18 January 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Qcne-20240118185400-Basuproma-20240118183500"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Qcne-20240118185400-Basuproma-20240118183500"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Basuproma-20240118190600-Qcne-20240118185400"></span>Sure. Will. Thanks once again. <a href="/wiki/User:Basuproma" title="User:Basuproma">Basuproma</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Basuproma" title="User talk:Basuproma">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Qcne/Archives/2024/January#c-Basuproma-20240118190600-Qcne-20240118185400" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:06, 18 January 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Basuproma-20240118190600-Qcne-20240118185400"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Basuproma-20240118190600-Qcne-20240118185400"></span></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Basuproma-20240119053400-Qcne-20240118185400"></span>Hi!Qcne, I have incorporated the external links to in-line citations. Do you think it is alright for submission? Thanks so much. <a href="/wiki/User:Basuproma" title="User:Basuproma">Basuproma</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Basuproma" title="User talk:Basuproma">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Qcne/Archives/2024/January#c-Basuproma-20240119053400-Qcne-20240118185400" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">05:34, 19 January 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Basuproma-20240119053400-Qcne-20240118185400"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Basuproma-20240119053400-Qcne-20240118185400"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Qcne-20240119122100-Basuproma-20240119053400"></span>Nearly! You've got a couple of external links in the <b>Curation</b> section - just fix those and you can re-submit. <span style="background-color: RoyalBlue; border-radius: 1em; padding: 3px 3px 3px 3px;"><b><a href="/wiki/User:Qcne" title="User:Qcne"><span style="color: GhostWhite">Qcne</span></a></b> <small><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Qcne" title="User talk:Qcne"><span style="color: GhostWhite">(talk)</span></a></small></span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Qcne/Archives/2024/January#c-Qcne-20240119122100-Basuproma-20240119053400" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:21, 19 January 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Qcne-20240119122100-Basuproma-20240119053400"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Qcne-20240119122100-Basuproma-20240119053400"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Basuproma-20240119141700-Qcne-20240119122100"></span>Will check that out too. Thanks so much. <a href="/wiki/User:Basuproma" title="User:Basuproma">Basuproma</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Basuproma" title="User talk:Basuproma">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Qcne/Archives/2024/January#c-Basuproma-20240119141700-Qcne-20240119122100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:17, 19 January 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Basuproma-20240119141700-Qcne-20240119122100"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Basuproma-20240119141700-Qcne-20240119122100"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Request_on_14:33:53,_19_January_2024_for_assistance_on_AfC_submission_by_Basuproma" data-mw-thread-id="h-Request_on_14:33:53,_19_January_2024_for_assistance_on_AfC_submission_by_Basupro-20240119143300"><span id="Request_on_14:33:53.2C_19_January_2024_for_assistance_on_AfC_submission_by_Basuproma"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Request_on_14:33:53,_19_January_2024_for_assistance_on_AfC_submission_by_Basupro-20240119143300"></span>Request on 14:33:53, 19 January 2024 for assistance on <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_creation" title="Wikipedia:Articles for creation">AfC</a> submission by Basuproma<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Request_on_14:33:53,_19_January_2024_for_assistance_on_AfC_submission_by_Basupro-20240119143300"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span class="anchor" id="14:33:53,_19_January_2024_review_of_submission_by_Basuproma"></span> </p> <ul><li><a href="/wiki/User:Basuproma" title="User:Basuproma"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Basuproma-20240119143300-Request_on_14:33:53,_19_January_2024_for_assistance_on_AfC_submission_by_Basupro"></span>Basuproma</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Basuproma" title="User talk:Basuproma">talk</a> <b>·</b> <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Basuproma" title="Special:Contributions/Basuproma">contribs</a>) <ul><li class="mw-empty-elt"></li> <li><span class="plainlinks nourlexpansion lx"><a href="/wiki/Draft:Oindrilla_Maity_Surai" class="mw-redirect" title="Draft:Oindrilla Maity Surai">Draft:Oindrilla Maity Surai</a> <span style="font-size:90%;">(<a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Draft:Oindrilla_Maity_Surai&action=edit">edit</a> | <a href="/wiki/Draft_talk:Oindrilla_Maity_Surai" class="mw-redirect" title="Draft talk:Oindrilla Maity Surai">talk</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Draft:Oindrilla_Maity_Surai&action=history">history</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Whatlinkshere/Draft:Oindrilla_Maity_Surai">links</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Draft:Oindrilla_Maity_Surai&action=watch">watch</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Log&page=Draft%3AOindrilla+Maity+Surai">logs</a>)</span></span></li></ul></li></ul> <p><br/> </p><p>Hi! I think I have reworked my draft sufficiently. However I am not finding the right link to submit it. Will hitting the 'Publish' button help? Please help me find a way. Thanks. </p><p><br/> <a href="/wiki/User:Basuproma" title="User:Basuproma">Basuproma</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Basuproma" title="User talk:Basuproma">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Qcne/Archives/2024/January#c-Basuproma-20240119143300-Request_on_14:33:53,_19_January_2024_for_assistance_on_AfC_submission_by_Basupro" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:33, 19 January 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Basuproma-20240119143300-Request_on_14:33:53,_19_January_2024_for_assistance_on_AfC_submission_by_Basupro"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Basuproma-20240119143300-Request_on_14:33:53,_19_January_2024_for_assistance_on_AfC_submission_by_Basupro"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Qcne-20240119143400-Basuproma-20240119143300"></span>Submitted :) <span style="background-color: RoyalBlue; border-radius: 1em; padding: 3px 3px 3px 3px;"><b><a href="/wiki/User:Qcne" title="User:Qcne"><span style="color: GhostWhite">Qcne</span></a></b> <small><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Qcne" title="User talk:Qcne"><span style="color: GhostWhite">(talk)</span></a></small></span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Qcne/Archives/2024/January#c-Qcne-20240119143400-Basuproma-20240119143300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:34, 19 January 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Qcne-20240119143400-Basuproma-20240119143300"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Qcne-20240119143400-Basuproma-20240119143300"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Basuproma-20240119143700-Qcne-20240119143400"></span>Thanks so much, Qcne! You are a big help, indeed. <a href="/wiki/User:Basuproma" title="User:Basuproma">Basuproma</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Basuproma" title="User talk:Basuproma">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Qcne/Archives/2024/January#c-Basuproma-20240119143700-Qcne-20240119143400" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:37, 19 January 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Basuproma-20240119143700-Qcne-20240119143400"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Basuproma-20240119143700-Qcne-20240119143400"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Can_you_take_a_look_at_this?" data-mw-thread-id="h-Can_you_take_a_look_at_this?-20240121144600"><span id="Can_you_take_a_look_at_this.3F"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Can_you_take_a_look_at_this?-20240121144600"></span>Can you take a look at <a href="/wiki/Draft:Anveshi_Jain" class="mw-redirect" title="Draft:Anveshi Jain">this</a>?<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Can_you_take_a_look_at_this?-20240121144600"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Jeraxmoira-20240121144600-Can_you_take_a_look_at_this?"></span>Hi <a href="/wiki/User:Qcne" title="User:Qcne">Qcne</a>. Hope you are doing well. Whenever you have a moment, could you please take a look at my draft, <a href="/wiki/Draft:Anveshi_Jain" class="mw-redirect" title="Draft:Anveshi Jain">Draft:Anveshi Jain</a>? Just a heads up, it has been creation protected since November 2020. <a href="/wiki/User:Jeraxmoira" title="User:Jeraxmoira">Jeraxmoira🐉</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Jeraxmoira" title="User talk:Jeraxmoira">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Qcne/Archives/2024/January#c-Jeraxmoira-20240121144600-Can_you_take_a_look_at_this?" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:46, 21 January 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Jeraxmoira-20240121144600-Can_you_take_a_look_at_this?"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Jeraxmoira-20240121144600-Can_you_take_a_look_at_this?"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Speedy_deletion_nomination_of_User_talk:Alnour.ebrahim" data-mw-thread-id="h-Speedy_deletion_nomination_of_User_talk:Alnour.ebrahim-20240122071600"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Speedy_deletion_nomination_of_User_talk:Alnour.ebrahim-20240122071600"></span><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Criteria_for_speedy_deletion" title="Wikipedia:Criteria for speedy deletion">Speedy deletion</a> nomination of <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Alnour.ebrahim" title="User talk:Alnour.ebrahim">User talk:Alnour.ebrahim</a><span data-mw-comment-end="h-Speedy_deletion_nomination_of_User_talk:Alnour.ebrahim-20240122071600"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Schrödinger's_jellyfish-20240122071600-Speedy_deletion_nomination_of_User_talk:Alnour.ebrahim"></span><figure class="mw-halign-left" typeof="mw:File"><span><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/1/1d/Information_icon4.svg/48px-Information_icon4.svg.png" decoding="async" width="48" height="48" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/1/1d/Information_icon4.svg/72px-Information_icon4.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/1/1d/Information_icon4.svg/96px-Information_icon4.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="620" data-file-height="620"/></span><figcaption></figcaption></figure> <p>Hello, and welcome to Wikipedia. A tag has been placed on <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Alnour.ebrahim" title="User talk:Alnour.ebrahim">User talk:Alnour.ebrahim</a> requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:CSD#U5" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:CSD">section U5 of the criteria for speedy deletion</a>, because the page appears to consist of writings, information, discussions, or activities not closely related to Wikipedia's goals. Please note that <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:What_Wikipedia_is_not#Wikipedia_is_not_a_blog,_web_hosting_service,_social_networking_service,_or_memorial_site" title="Wikipedia:What Wikipedia is not">Wikipedia is not a free web hosting service</a>. Under the <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:CSD#User_pages" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:CSD">criteria for speedy deletion</a>, such pages may be deleted at any time. </p><p>If you think this page should not be deleted for this reason, you may <b>contest the nomination</b> by <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Alnour.ebrahim" title="User talk:Alnour.ebrahim">visiting the page</a> and clicking the button labelled "Contest this speedy deletion". This will give you the opportunity to explain why you believe the page should not be deleted. However, be aware that once a page is tagged for speedy deletion, it may be deleted without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag from the page yourself, but do not hesitate to add information in line with <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:List_of_policies" title="Wikipedia:List of policies">Wikipedia's policies and guidelines</a>. If the page is deleted, and you wish to retrieve the deleted material for future reference or improvement, then please contact the <span class="plainlinks"><a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Log?type=delete&page=User+talk%3AAlnour.ebrahim">deleting administrator</a></span>, or if you have already done so, you can place a request <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:RFUD" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:RFUD">here</a>. <a href="/wiki/User:Schr%C3%B6dinger%27s_jellyfish" class="mw-redirect" title="User:Schrödinger's jellyfish"><small style="color:#663399;background:Thistle;border:2px solid;border-radius:4px;padding:0 4px">Schrödinger's jellyfish</small></a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Schr%C3%B6dinger%27s_jellyfish" class="mw-redirect" title="User talk:Schrödinger's jellyfish">✉</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Qcne/Archives/2024/January#c-Schrödinger's_jellyfish-20240122071600-Speedy_deletion_nomination_of_User_talk:Alnour.ebrahim" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">07:16, 22 January 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Schrödinger's_jellyfish-20240122071600-Speedy_deletion_nomination_of_User_talk:Alnour.ebrahim"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Schrödinger's_jellyfish-20240122071600-Speedy_deletion_nomination_of_User_talk:Alnour.ebrahim"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Re_Draft:Eleonora_Svanberg" data-mw-thread-id="h-Re_Draft:Eleonora_Svanberg-20240118150500"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Re_Draft:Eleonora_Svanberg-20240118150500"></span>Re Draft:Eleonora Svanberg<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Re_Draft:Eleonora_Svanberg-20240118150500"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-CygnusB-20240118150500-Re_Draft:Eleonora_Svanberg"></span>Hi, I'm a bit confused by what I would need to add to show notability for the person in question. Could you please guide me? </p><p>Many thanks </p><p><a href="/w/index.php?title=User:CygnusB&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:CygnusB (page does not exist)">CygnusB</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:CygnusB" title="User talk:CygnusB">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Qcne/Archives/2024/January#c-CygnusB-20240118150500-Re_Draft:Eleonora_Svanberg" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:05, 18 January 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-CygnusB-20240118150500-Re_Draft:Eleonora_Svanberg"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-CygnusB-20240118150500-Re_Draft:Eleonora_Svanberg"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Qcne-20240118160700-CygnusB-20240118150500"></span>Hi @<a href="/w/index.php?title=User:CygnusB&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:CygnusB (page does not exist)">CygnusB</a>.</dd> <dd>Topics on Wikipedia must pass our notability criteria.</dd> <dd>The easiest way to fix your draft is to find reliable, independent, secondary sources that cover Eleonora in detail, and then summarise them in your own words. That should make up the content of your article draft. Note that the sources must be: <dl><dd>- <b><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Reliable_sources" title="Wikipedia:Reliable sources">Reliable</a></b>: Your article should rely on strong, reliable sources that are published by reputable institutions. Primary sources can be used for basic facts (such as a date of birth), but they should be supplemented with strong secondary sources that offer analysis or interpretation.</dd> <dd>- <b><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Independent_sources" title="Wikipedia:Independent sources">Independent</a></b>: Your sources should be independent of the subject, for example not self-published or from the subject's own website.</dd> <dd>- <b><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:What_is_significant_coverage%3F" title="Wikipedia:What is significant coverage?">Show significant coverage</a></b>: Your subject should be discussed in detail in the sources you find. The sources should provide in-depth information or analysis about the subject, going beyond basic facts or promotional material.</dd> <dd>- <b><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Multiple_sources" title="Wikipedia:Multiple sources">From multiple places</a></b>: You should find at least three separate reliable, independent, secondary sources that discuss your subject.</dd> <dd>- <b><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:No_original_research" title="Wikipedia:No original research">Not original research</a></b>: Wikipedia articles should summarise existing knowledge about a subject, not present new research. This means you should avoid drawing your own conclusions or analyses from the sources. Stick to summarising what the sources say in a neutral tone.</dd></dl></dd> <dd>Remember that your article should be written from a <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Neutral_point_of_view" title="Wikipedia:Neutral point of view">Wikipedia:Neutral point of view</a>.</dd> <dd>If you cannot find multiple, reliable, and independent sources then I am afraid that she would not meet the <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Notability" title="Wikipedia:Notability">notability threshold</a> at this time and therefore <b>cannot have a Wikipedia article</b>. Remember that <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_is_not" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:Wikipedia is not">Wikipedia is not a place</a> for any type of self-promotion or advertisement. Wikipedia is an encyclopaedia: not an advertising platform, directory, or a way to promote a subject.</dd> <dd>Finally, please note that if you are connected in any way to Eleonora then you must declare your <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Conflict_of_interest" title="Wikipedia:Conflict of interest">Wikipedia:Conflict of interest</a>. <span style="background-color: RoyalBlue; border-radius: 1em; padding: 3px 3px 3px 3px;"><b><a href="/wiki/User:Qcne" title="User:Qcne"><span style="color: GhostWhite">Qcne</span></a></b> <small><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Qcne" title="User talk:Qcne"><span style="color: GhostWhite">(talk)</span></a></small></span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Qcne/Archives/2024/January#c-Qcne-20240118160700-CygnusB-20240118150500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:07, 18 January 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Qcne-20240118160700-CygnusB-20240118150500"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Qcne-20240118160700-CygnusB-20240118150500"></span></dd> <dd><small><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-UtherSRG-20240126171100-CygnusB-20240118150500"></span>(<a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Talk_page_stalker" title="Wikipedia:Talk page stalker">talk page watcher</a>)</small> <span class="template-ping">@<a href="/w/index.php?title=User:CygnusB&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:CygnusB (page does not exist)">CygnusB</a>:</span> In addition to what Qcne said, do note that each language Wiki has its own set of rules and policies. Just because another language wiki has an article on a subject doesn't mean that the subject merits an article on the English language wiki. Also, it appears you are the subject. There is a <b>strong</b> discouragement to writing about yourself. I have added info on your talk page regarding this. - <a href="/wiki/User:UtherSRG" title="User:UtherSRG">UtherSRG</a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:UtherSRG" title="User talk:UtherSRG">(talk)</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Qcne/Archives/2024/January#c-UtherSRG-20240126171100-CygnusB-20240118150500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:11, 26 January 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-UtherSRG-20240126171100-CygnusB-20240118150500"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-UtherSRG-20240126171100-CygnusB-20240118150500"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="University_at_Albany_Student_Association_article_flagged_for_“Lead_too_long”" data-mw-thread-id="h-University_at_Albany_Student_Association_article_flagged_for_“Lead_too_long”-20240117231200"><span id="University_at_Albany_Student_Association_article_flagged_for_.E2.80.9CLead_too_long.E2.80.9D"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-University_at_Albany_Student_Association_article_flagged_for_“Lead_too_long”-20240117231200"></span>University at Albany Student Association article flagged for “Lead too long”<span data-mw-comment-end="h-University_at_Albany_Student_Association_article_flagged_for_“Lead_too_long”-20240117231200"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Calebsappy-20240117231200-University_at_Albany_Student_Association_article_flagged_for_“Lead_too_long”"></span>Happy New Year! I was notified earlier that the article has a lead section that is too long, and as I read the template and guidelines for that type of warning, I noticed that the general rule of thumb is four paragraphs, and the lead section of the article consists of three and I'm not sure how to cut it down more, but I need your assistance with it please. <a href="/wiki/User:Calebsappy" title="User:Calebsappy">Calebsappy</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Calebsappy" title="User talk:Calebsappy">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Qcne/Archives/2024/January#c-Calebsappy-20240117231200-University_at_Albany_Student_Association_article_flagged_for_“Lead_too_long”" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:12, 17 January 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Calebsappy-20240117231200-University_at_Albany_Student_Association_article_flagged_for_“Lead_too_long”"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Calebsappy-20240117231200-University_at_Albany_Student_Association_article_flagged_for_“Lead_too_long”"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Qcne-20240118085900-Calebsappy-20240117231200"></span>Hey @<a href="/wiki/User:Calebsappy" title="User:Calebsappy">Calebsappy</a>. Lead length is pretty subjective, I would personally say the lead length is fine on the article. If you wanted to cut it down, I'd recommend moving the "The UAlbany Student Association comprises four branches..." paragraph to under the <b>Operations</b> section, as it probably fits better there anyway. Hope that helps. <span style="background-color: RoyalBlue; border-radius: 1em; padding: 3px 3px 3px 3px;"><b><a href="/wiki/User:Qcne" title="User:Qcne"><span style="color: GhostWhite">Qcne</span></a></b> <small><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Qcne" title="User talk:Qcne"><span style="color: GhostWhite">(talk)</span></a></small></span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Qcne/Archives/2024/January#c-Qcne-20240118085900-Calebsappy-20240117231200" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">08:59, 18 January 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Qcne-20240118085900-Calebsappy-20240117231200"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Qcne-20240118085900-Calebsappy-20240117231200"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Calebsappy-20240129025800-Qcne-20240118085900"></span>Hey. I shortened the lead. Do I just wait for an additional review or the disclaimer will go away on its own? Thanks. <a href="/wiki/User:Calebsappy" title="User:Calebsappy">Calebsappy</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Calebsappy" title="User talk:Calebsappy">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Qcne/Archives/2024/January#c-Calebsappy-20240129025800-Qcne-20240118085900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">02:58, 29 January 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Calebsappy-20240129025800-Qcne-20240118085900"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Calebsappy-20240129025800-Qcne-20240118085900"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Qcne-20240129080000-Calebsappy-20240129025800"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:Calebsappy" title="User:Calebsappy">Calebsappy</a> If you feel it's no longer relevant, you can remove the maintenance tag yourself. <span style="background-color: RoyalBlue; border-radius: 1em; padding: 3px 3px 3px 3px;"><b><a href="/wiki/User:Qcne" title="User:Qcne"><span style="color: GhostWhite">Qcne</span></a></b> <small><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Qcne" title="User talk:Qcne"><span style="color: GhostWhite">(talk)</span></a></small></span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Qcne/Archives/2024/January#c-Qcne-20240129080000-Calebsappy-20240129025800" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">08:00, 29 January 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Qcne-20240129080000-Calebsappy-20240129025800"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Qcne-20240129080000-Calebsappy-20240129025800"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Concern_regarding_Draft:Stenogale" data-mw-thread-id="h-Concern_regarding_Draft:Stenogale-20240129210600"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Concern_regarding_Draft:Stenogale-20240129210600"></span>Concern regarding <a href="/wiki/Draft:Stenogale" class="mw-redirect" title="Draft:Stenogale">Draft:Stenogale</a><span data-mw-comment-end="h-Concern_regarding_Draft:Stenogale-20240129210600"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-FireflyBot-20240129210600-Concern_regarding_Draft:Stenogale"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Information.svg" class="mw-file-description"><img alt="Information icon" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/2/28/Information.svg/25px-Information.svg.png" decoding="async" width="25" height="25" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/2/28/Information.svg/38px-Information.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/2/28/Information.svg/50px-Information.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="256" data-file-height="256"/></a></span> Hello, Qcne. This is a bot-delivered message letting you know that <a href="/wiki/Draft:Stenogale" class="mw-redirect" title="Draft:Stenogale">Draft:Stenogale</a>, a page you created, has not been edited in at least 5 months. 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About your revert on arrows template, i think skeuomorphist designs will make the buttons easier to notice&understand for new users. Of course you may be surprised by seeing these buttons are changed, but i think you will get used to it as you use it. As written in <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.discoverforce5.com/marketing/benefits-of-skeuomorphism-in-interface-design/">that</a> source, these designs will make the interface easier to use. Of course these designs may have some disadvantages as written in <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://blog.hubspot.com/website/skeuomorphism">there</a>, but these are not valid in that status. (Outdated: that's not outdated because new devices are tend to use membrane buttons. Complex: these are not very complex because alphas of shadows and bevels are about only a quarter. Performance: this design cannot decrase performance because the filesize of image is only 4kb and there's only one shadow.) New users will be able to understand these buttons quicker with my design because of increased contrast and the reasons these included at references. Of course i can just put they in my css&js pages, i just think my design will be easier for new users. <a href="/wiki/User:RuzDD" title="User:RuzDD">RuzDD</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:RuzDD" title="User talk:RuzDD">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Qcne/Archives/2024/January#c-RuzDD-20240130012000-Benefits_of_Skeuomorphism" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">01:20, 30 January 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-RuzDD-20240130012000-Benefits_of_Skeuomorphism"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-RuzDD-20240130012000-Benefits_of_Skeuomorphism"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Qcne-20240130183800-RuzDD-20240130012000"></span>Hi @<a href="/wiki/User:RuzDD" title="User:RuzDD">RuzDD</a>. Your arrows looked horrendous, totally out of placement with the rest of the visual style of the website. It's not even <i>good</i> skeumorphism, which I can quite like on some UI. I do not believe that graphic design from circa 2006 is going to make this website any easier to use.</dd> <dd>If you really want them, please use your own css or start a discussion on the talk page to gain consensus. <span style="background-color: RoyalBlue; border-radius: 1em; padding: 3px 3px 3px 3px;"><b><a href="/wiki/User:Qcne" title="User:Qcne"><span style="color: GhostWhite">Qcne</span></a></b> <small><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Qcne" title="User talk:Qcne"><span style="color: GhostWhite">(talk)</span></a></small></span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Qcne/Archives/2024/January#c-Qcne-20240130183800-RuzDD-20240130012000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:38, 30 January 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Qcne-20240130183800-RuzDD-20240130012000"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Qcne-20240130183800-RuzDD-20240130012000"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-RuzDD-20240130202300-Qcne-20240130183800"></span>Thanks. So, i'm going to only move buttons to a bit left (some part of right button is not clickable), and after maybe adding a parameter option to the template to allow users to select design. 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