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data-username="@sidun.av">@sidun.av</a> <br /> Your answer is really helpful to me<br /> <br /> I tried to simulate my circuit with PSS, PAC and then I have a result as below, Could you help me explain for me the meaning of that result?<br /> <br /> This is my result at input harmonic -2:<br /> <div class="bbImageWrapper js-lbImage" title="1727311162200.png" data-src="https://www.edaboard.com/attachments/1727311162200-png.194160/" data-lb-sidebar-href="" data-lb-caption-extra-html="" data-single-image="1"> <img src="https://www.edaboard.com/attachments/1727311162200-png.194160/" data-url="" class="bbImage" data-zoom-target="1" style="width: 164px" alt="1727311162200.png" title="1727311162200.png" width="321" height="676" loading="lazy" /> </div><div class="bbImageWrapper js-lbImage" title="1727311018643.png" data-src="https://www.edaboard.com/attachments/1727311018643-png.194159/" data-lb-sidebar-href="" data-lb-caption-extra-html="" data-single-image="1"> <img 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data-user-id="688381" data-username="@Henry98">@Henry98</a> , you are getting a quite weird result...<br /> 1. Did you make sure that you have only 1 clock source in the circuit (and it has the highest frequency) and the rest are just derivatives of it?<br /> 2. Did you try to run transient analysis to make sure that you are getting an output signal which is close to what you are expecting? Apart from simulation settings, I am suspecting some errors in your schematic, so maybe that's why you are getting -6kdB (!) as a result. <br /> 3. It would be useful to see your schematic by the way...</div> </div> <div class="js-selectToQuoteEnd"> </div> </article> </div> </div> <footer class="message-footer"> <div class="message-microdata" itemprop="interactionStatistic" itemtype="https://schema.org/InteractionCounter" itemscope> <meta itemprop="userInteractionCount" content="0" /> <meta itemprop="interactionType" content="https://schema.org/LikeAction" /> </div> <div class="message-actionBar actionBar"> <div class="actionBar-set actionBar-set--external"> <a href="/threads/identify-dc-gain-and-dc-operations-point-of-floating-inverter-amplifier.412493/reply?quote=1781188" class="actionBar-action actionBar-action--reply" title="Reply, quoting this message" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="quote" data-quote-href="/posts/1781188/quote">Reply</a> </div> </div> <div class="reactionsBar js-reactionsList "> </div> <br/> <div class="js-historyTarget message-historyTarget toggleTarget" data-href="trigger-href"></div> </footer> </div> </div> <div class="message-cell message-cell--vote"> <div class="message-column"> <div class="contentVote js-contentVote " data-xf-init="content-vote" data-content-id="post-1781188"> <meta itemprop="upvoteCount" content="0" /> <a href="javascript:" class="contentVote-vote is-disabled contentVote-vote--up " data-vote="up"><span class="u-srOnly">Upvote</span></a> <span class="contentVote-score js-voteCount" data-score="0">0</span> <a href="javascript:" class="contentVote-vote is-disabled contentVote-vote--down " data-vote="down"><span class="u-srOnly">Downvote</span></a> </div> </div> </div> </div> </article> <article class="message message--post js-post js-inlineModContainer " data-author="Henry98" data-content="post-1781204" id="js-post-1781204" itemscope itemtype="https://schema.org/Answer" itemid="https://www.edaboard.com/posts/1781204/"> <meta itemprop="parentItem" itemscope itemid="https://www.edaboard.com/threads/identify-dc-gain-and-dc-operations-point-of-floating-inverter-amplifier.412493/" /> <span class="u-anchorTarget" id="post-1781204"></span> <div class="message-header"> <header class="message-attribution message-attribution--split"> <ul class="message-attribution-main listInline "> <li class="u-concealed"> <a href="/threads/identify-dc-gain-and-dc-operations-point-of-floating-inverter-amplifier.412493/post-1781204" rel="nofollow" itemprop="url"> <time class="u-dt" dir="auto" datetime="2024-09-26T13:40:16+0100" data-time="1727354416" data-date-string="Sep 26, 2024" data-time-string="1:40 PM" title="Sep 26, 2024 at 1:40 PM" itemprop="datePublished">Sep 26, 2024</time> </a> </li> </ul> <ul class="message-attribution-opposite message-attribution-opposite--list "> <li> <a href="/threads/identify-dc-gain-and-dc-operations-point-of-floating-inverter-amplifier.412493/post-1781204" class="message-attribution-gadget" data-xf-init="share-tooltip" data-href="/posts/1781204/share" aria-label="Share" rel="nofollow"> <i class="fa--xf fal fa-share-alt" aria-hidden="true"></i> </a> </li> <li> <a href="/threads/identify-dc-gain-and-dc-operations-point-of-floating-inverter-amplifier.412493/post-1781204" rel="nofollow"> #5 </a> </li> </ul> </header> </div> <div class="message-inner"> <div class="message-cell message-cell--user"> <section class="message-user" itemprop="author" itemscope itemtype="https://schema.org/Person" itemid="https://www.edaboard.com/members/henry98.688381/"> <meta itemprop="url" content="https://www.edaboard.com/members/henry98.688381/" /> <div class="message-avatar "> <div class="message-avatar-wrapper"> <a href="/members/henry98.688381/" class="avatar avatar--m avatar--default avatar--default--dynamic" data-user-id="688381" data-xf-init="member-tooltip" style="background-color: #1f7a1f; 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My schematic is using a input voltage source is 2kHz, and two inverted source of clock 2MHz to control the switching of circuit.<br /> 2. when I run transient simulation, output is kind of like á my expected.<br /> 3. My schematic using in this simulation as picture below:<br /> <div class="bbImageWrapper js-lbImage" title="1727354055768.png" data-src="https://www.edaboard.com/attachments/1727354055768-png.194170/" data-lb-sidebar-href="" data-lb-caption-extra-html="" data-single-image="1"> <img src="https://www.edaboard.com/attachments/1727354055768-png.194170/" data-url="" class="bbImage" data-zoom-target="1" style="width: 481px" alt="1727354055768.png" title="1727354055768.png" width="1224" height="549" loading="lazy" /> </div><br /> <br /> transient output of this circuit is:<br /> <div class="bbImageWrapper js-lbImage" title="1727354118799.png" data-src="https://www.edaboard.com/attachments/1727354118799-png.194171/" data-lb-sidebar-href="" data-lb-caption-extra-html="" data-single-image="1"> <img src="https://www.edaboard.com/attachments/1727354118799-png.194171/" data-url="" class="bbImage" data-zoom-target="1" style="width: 481px" alt="1727354118799.png" title="1727354118799.png" width="1417" height="791" loading="lazy" /> </div><br /> <br /> And the voltage gain of this structure:<br /> <div class="bbImageWrapper js-lbImage" title="1727354182783.png" data-src="https://www.edaboard.com/attachments/1727354182783-png.194172/" data-lb-sidebar-href="" data-lb-caption-extra-html="" data-single-image="1"> <img src="https://www.edaboard.com/attachments/1727354182783-png.194172/" data-url="" class="bbImage" data-zoom-target="1" style="width: 482px" alt="1727354182783.png" title="1727354182783.png" width="1278" height="791" loading="lazy" /> </div><div class="bbImageWrapper js-lbImage" title="1727354206850.png" data-src="https://www.edaboard.com/attachments/1727354206850-png.194173/" data-lb-sidebar-href="" data-lb-caption-extra-html="" data-single-image="1"> <img src="https://www.edaboard.com/attachments/1727354206850-png.194173/" data-url="" class="bbImage" data-zoom-target="1" style="width: 141px" alt="1727354206850.png" title="1727354206850.png" width="317" height="677" loading="lazy" /> </div><br /> <br /> below í my setup for PSS and PAC:<br /> <div class="bbImageWrapper js-lbImage" title="1727354268800.png" data-src="https://www.edaboard.com/attachments/1727354268800-png.194174/" data-lb-sidebar-href="" data-lb-caption-extra-html="" data-single-image="1"> <img src="https://www.edaboard.com/attachments/1727354268800-png.194174/" data-url="" class="bbImage" data-zoom-target="1" style="width: 231px" alt="1727354268800.png" title="1727354268800.png" width="420" height="942" loading="lazy" /> </div><div class="bbImageWrapper js-lbImage" title="1727354295023.png" data-src="https://www.edaboard.com/attachments/1727354295023-png.194175/" data-lb-sidebar-href="" data-lb-caption-extra-html="" data-single-image="1"> <img src="https://www.edaboard.com/attachments/1727354295023-png.194175/" data-url="" class="bbImage" data-zoom-target="1" style="width: 224px" alt="1727354295023.png" title="1727354295023.png" width="411" height="945" loading="lazy" /> </div><br /> <br /> Could you help me check it whether my schematic or setup of PSS , PAC is wrong?<br /> <br /> Thank you.</div> </div> <div class="js-selectToQuoteEnd"> </div> </article> </div> </div> <footer class="message-footer"> <div class="message-microdata" itemprop="interactionStatistic" itemtype="https://schema.org/InteractionCounter" itemscope> <meta itemprop="userInteractionCount" content="0" /> <meta itemprop="interactionType" content="https://schema.org/LikeAction" /> </div> <div class="message-actionBar actionBar"> <div class="actionBar-set actionBar-set--external"> <a href="/threads/identify-dc-gain-and-dc-operations-point-of-floating-inverter-amplifier.412493/reply?quote=1781204" class="actionBar-action actionBar-action--reply" title="Reply, quoting this message" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="quote" data-quote-href="/posts/1781204/quote">Reply</a> </div> </div> <div class="reactionsBar js-reactionsList "> </div> <br/> <div class="js-historyTarget 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I understand that this is just inverted clocks but I am not sure that the simulator can recognize that. Try implementing CLK_B by inverting a CLK through inverter and see if it gives you any meaningful result.<br /> In a meanwhile, I will have look on your analysis setup and tell you if there is something wrong with it.</div> </div> <div class="js-selectToQuoteEnd"> </div> </article> </div> </div> <footer class="message-footer"> <div class="message-microdata" itemprop="interactionStatistic" itemtype="https://schema.org/InteractionCounter" itemscope> <meta itemprop="userInteractionCount" content="0" /> <meta itemprop="interactionType" content="https://schema.org/LikeAction" /> </div> <div class="message-actionBar actionBar"> <div class="actionBar-set actionBar-set--external"> <a href="/threads/identify-dc-gain-and-dc-operations-point-of-floating-inverter-amplifier.412493/reply?quote=1781213" class="actionBar-action actionBar-action--reply" title="Reply, quoting this message" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="quote" data-quote-href="/posts/1781213/quote">Reply</a> </div> </div> <div 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0. </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote>That makes complete sense, because in DC analysis (depending on the initial conditions of your circuit) some switches will be open leading to open circuit and no current flow.<br /> My suggestion will be the following:<br /> 1. Perform a transient analysis;<br /> 2. Go to View->Annotations and select Transient Operating Points;<br /> 3. Specify the time when your circuit is at the phase 1 and inspect the operating points. Repeat the same for the time when your circuit is in phase 2.</div> </div> <div class="js-selectToQuoteEnd"> </div> </article> </div> </div> <footer class="message-footer"> <div class="message-microdata" itemprop="interactionStatistic" itemtype="https://schema.org/InteractionCounter" itemscope> <meta itemprop="userInteractionCount" content="0" /> <meta itemprop="interactionType" content="https://schema.org/LikeAction" /> </div> <div class="message-actionBar actionBar"> <div class="actionBar-set actionBar-set--external"> <a href="/threads/identify-dc-gain-and-dc-operations-point-of-floating-inverter-amplifier.412493/reply?quote=1781269" class="actionBar-action actionBar-action--reply" title="Reply, quoting this message" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="quote" data-quote-href="/posts/1781269/quote">Reply</a> </div> </div> <div class="reactionsBar js-reactionsList "> </div> <br/> <div class="js-historyTarget message-historyTarget toggleTarget" data-href="trigger-href"></div> </footer> </div> 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guideline document, I wonder that why input voltage for circuit need to be DC voltage not AC voltage to run PSS.<br /> <div class="bbImageWrapper js-lbImage" title="1727425978530.png" data-src="https://www.edaboard.com/attachments/1727425978530-png.194201/" data-lb-sidebar-href="" data-lb-caption-extra-html="" data-single-image="1"> <img src="https://www.edaboard.com/attachments/1727425978530-png.194201/" data-url="" class="bbImage" data-zoom-target="1" style="width: 718px" alt="1727425978530.png" title="1727425978530.png" width="1362" height="143" loading="lazy" /> </div><br /> <br /> I also reference to this video and realized that they also change from input AC to input DC to run PSS and PAC<br /> <div class="bbImageWrapper js-lbImage" title="1727426156432.png" data-src="https://www.edaboard.com/attachments/1727426156432-png.194202/" data-lb-sidebar-href="" data-lb-caption-extra-html="" data-single-image="1"> <img src="https://www.edaboard.com/attachments/1727426156432-png.194202/" 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