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If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Sexology_and_sexuality" title="Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Sexology and sexuality">the discussion</a> and see a list of open tasks.<span class="metadata wpb-metadata"><span class="wpb-project">Sexology and sexuality</span><span class="wpb-project_link">Wikipedia:WikiProject Sexology and sexuality</span><span class="wpb-banner_name">Template:WikiProject Sexology and sexuality</span><span class="wpb-assessment_cat">Sexology and sexuality articles</span></span></td><td class="mbox-empty-cell"></td></tr></tbody></table></td></tr></tbody></table></td></tr></tbody></table> <meta property="mw:PageProp/toc"/> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Stub_template_image_discussion" data-mw-thread-id="h-Stub_template_image_discussion-2006-04-18T20:10:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Stub_template_image_discussion-2006-04-18T20:10:00.000Z"></span>Stub template image discussion<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Stub_template_image_discussion-2006-04-18T20:10:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Template_talk:Sex-stub&action=edit&section=1" title="Edit section: Stub template image discussion"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Lokal_Profil-2006-04-18T20:10:00.000Z-Stub_template_image_discussion"></span>I have removed the "Mars and Venus" symbol, as it implicitly privileges heterosexuality. Currently looking for a replacement ... any suggestions? <a href="/wiki/User:Rocketfairy" title="User:Rocketfairy">rocketfairy</a> </p> <dl><dd>How about <span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Happy_feet.svg" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/5f/Happy_feet.svg/40px-Happy_feet.svg.png" decoding="async" width="40" height="34" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/5f/Happy_feet.svg/60px-Happy_feet.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/5f/Happy_feet.svg/80px-Happy_feet.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="375" data-file-height="320"/></a></span>, doesn't link to gender, doesn't depict nudity but is yet a clear hint to sex. /<a href="/wiki/User:Lokal_Profil" title="User:Lokal Profil">Lokal Profil</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template_talk:Sex-stub#c-Lokal_Profil-2006-04-18T20:10:00.000Z-Stub_template_image_discussion" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:10, 18 April 2006 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Lokal_Profil-2006-04-18T20:10:00.000Z-Stub_template_image_discussion"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Lokal_Profil-2006-04-18T20:10:00.000Z-Stub_template_image_discussion"></span></dd></dl> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Booyabazooka-2006-05-19T21:37:00.000Z-Lokal_Profil-2006-04-18T20:10:00.000Z"></span>The Mars and Venus symbols aren't about heterosexuality. The basic idea of (human, at least) sexuality is that the species is divided into two sexes; and this symbolizes those two. It doesn't imply which of those sexes does what with which of the other. I really think you're reading too much into this... it seems harmless to me. ~ <a href="/wiki/User:Booyabazooka" class="mw-redirect" title="User:Booyabazooka">Booyabazooka</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template_talk:Sex-stub#c-Booyabazooka-2006-05-19T21:37:00.000Z-Lokal_Profil-2006-04-18T20:10:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:37, 19 May 2006 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Booyabazooka-2006-05-19T21:37:00.000Z-Lokal_Profil-2006-04-18T20:10:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Booyabazooka-2006-05-19T21:37:00.000Z-Lokal_Profil-2006-04-18T20:10:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Wiki_Wikardo-2006-08-01T09:22:00.000Z-Booyabazooka-2006-05-19T21:37:00.000Z"></span>Well, whether or not it’s implied, I wonder what most readers infer… I came over here to <a href="/wiki/Political_correctness" title="Political correctness">whine</a>, too; the template doesn’t say it’s about <a href="/wiki/Sexual_characteristics" title="Sexual characteristics">sexuality</a>, but <a href="/wiki/Sexual_intercourse" title="Sexual intercourse">sex</a>. <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Wiki_Wikardo" title="User talk:Wiki Wikardo">Wiki Wikardo</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template_talk:Sex-stub#c-Wiki_Wikardo-2006-08-01T09:22:00.000Z-Booyabazooka-2006-05-19T21:37:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:22, 1 August 2006 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Wiki_Wikardo-2006-08-01T09:22:00.000Z-Booyabazooka-2006-05-19T21:37:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Wiki_Wikardo-2006-08-01T09:22:00.000Z-Booyabazooka-2006-05-19T21:37:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Kotra-2007-03-16T22:51:00.000Z-Wiki_Wikardo-2006-08-01T09:22:00.000Z"></span>Now I’m seeing I’m kind of on the wrong side of that semantic divide, in that (see redirects) <i>sex</i>, dictionary-wise, <i>does</i> mean boobies and wee-wees (really, though, it never means anything but intercourse in everyday English). Still, it’s clear I’m not the only one who extrapolates the Mars/Venus juxtaposition as meaning <i>heterosexual</i>, being as I googled the first description that came to mind of a tattoo I saw the other day, and `lesbian symbol' returned the <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="http://www.offensivetees.com/items/lesbian.jpg">emblem</a> I sought. <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Wiki_Wikardo" title="User talk:Wiki Wikardo">Wiki Wikardo</a></dd></dl></dd> <dd>And, you know, if I wanna get <i>really</i> whiny, <a href="/wiki/Gender_binary" title="Gender binary">binary gender</a> still kind of precludes <a href="/wiki/Genderqueer" class="mw-redirect" title="Genderqueer">genderqueers</a> (who, last I tjecked, also had <a href="/wiki/Sexual_intercourse" title="Sexual intercourse">sex</a>. As in sex.) —<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Wiki_Wikardo" title="User talk:Wiki Wikardo">Wiki Wikardo</a> Bedtime, 1 August 2006 (UTC) <dl><dd>I agree with Wiki Wikardo... even if this template is about sex as in gender as opposed to sexual intercourse, that excludes genderqueers. Besides, to me it's unmistakably recognizeable as a reference to sexual intercourse, seeing as the male and female symbols are interconnected (the male symbol appears to be "penetrating" the female symbol), and the articles that use this stub are almost exclusively about sexual intercourse, not gender. As for <span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Happy_feet.svg" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/5f/Happy_feet.svg/40px-Happy_feet.svg.png" decoding="async" width="40" height="34" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/5f/Happy_feet.svg/60px-Happy_feet.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/5f/Happy_feet.svg/80px-Happy_feet.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="375" data-file-height="320"/></a></span>, it just looked like an <a href="/wiki/Rorschach_inkblot_test" class="mw-redirect" title="Rorschach inkblot test">inkblot</a> to me, until I clicked on it for a larger view, which most people won't be doing. In conclusion, neither picture is ideal, but I can't think of anything better. I'm so helpful. -<a href="/wiki/User:Kotra" title="User:Kotra">kotra</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template_talk:Sex-stub#c-Kotra-2007-03-16T22:51:00.000Z-Wiki_Wikardo-2006-08-01T09:22:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:51, 16 March 2007 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Kotra-2007-03-16T22:51:00.000Z-Wiki_Wikardo-2006-08-01T09:22:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Kotra-2007-03-16T22:51:00.000Z-Wiki_Wikardo-2006-08-01T09:22:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Wiki_Wikardo-2007-05-25T07:56:00.000Z-Kotra-2007-03-16T22:51:00.000Z"></span>Omg, the Mars is <i>totally</i> penetrating the Venus!… The “<a href="/w/index.php?title=File:Happy_feet.jpg&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="File:Happy feet.jpg (page does not exist)">Happy Feet</a>” look like chromosomes. —<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Wiki_Wikardo" title="User talk:Wiki Wikardo">Wiki Wikardo</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template_talk:Sex-stub#c-Wiki_Wikardo-2007-05-25T07:56:00.000Z-Kotra-2007-03-16T22:51:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">07:56, 25 May 2007 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Wiki_Wikardo-2007-05-25T07:56:00.000Z-Kotra-2007-03-16T22:51:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Wiki_Wikardo-2007-05-25T07:56:00.000Z-Kotra-2007-03-16T22:51:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Billyjoekini-2007-07-19T05:21:00.000Z-Stub_template_image_discussion"></span>I think you're all being much too sensitive. I'm bi, and i see no problem with representing human sexuality with this image -- it contains the two typical sexes and suggests the most typical act, if it suggests any act at all. To be fair, i have less reason to be bothered than some other groups, but i think most people would agree that it's most logical to assume someone is heterosexual -- that's the overwhelming majority, even with Kinsey scales. If there is a better image with which Wikipedia can represent human sexuality, i'd love to see it. (Seriously, that would be awesome.) --<a href="/wiki/User:BranER" title="User:BranER">BranER</a> 21:00, 18 June 2007 </p><p>I disagree with BranER, the bisexual, in that the binary gender system is a social construct, and people who are genderqueer absolutely do have a sexuality. We definitely should have a symbol that leaves out gender and sex completely, because there aren't just two (as the current symbol may suggest). I think the footprints are recognizable as such, and are pretty good. Doesn't necessarily hit me as meaning 'sexuality', but with the text next to it it's good enough. Coming up with a universal symbol for sexuality is nearly impossible, because it's so incredibly broad. --<a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Billyjoekini&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Billyjoekini (page does not exist)">Billyjoekini</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template_talk:Sex-stub#c-Billyjoekini-2007-07-19T05:21:00.000Z-Stub_template_image_discussion" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">05:21, 19 July 2007 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Billyjoekini-2007-07-19T05:21:00.000Z-Stub_template_image_discussion"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Billyjoekini-2007-07-19T05:21:00.000Z-Stub_template_image_discussion"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Booyabazooka-2007-07-19T16:10:00.000Z-Billyjoekini-2007-07-19T05:21:00.000Z"></span>The footprints just remind me of feet, and I can't figure how that relates to sexuality. The male and female icons don't "exclude" genderqueers any more than the icon of human feet excludes <a href="/wiki/Animal_sexuality" class="mw-redirect" title="Animal sexuality">animal sexuality</a>. Stub icons don't have to be comprehensive; they just need to be easily recognizable. Look at every other stub template: <a href="/wiki/Template:Shark-stub" title="Template:Shark-stub">Shark-stub</a> depicts only one type of shark, <a href="/wiki/Template:Sega-stub" title="Template:Sega-stub">Sega-stub</a> only depicts the Sega Genesis controller, etc. These are chosen because they're common icons that work well for this purpose. Please don't obscure this Wikipedia stub icon because some people feel that it is somehow a microcosm of a larger politicized social issue. It isn't. It's a stub icon. ~ <a href="/wiki/User:Booyabazooka" class="mw-redirect" title="User:Booyabazooka">Booya <sup>Bazooka</sup></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template_talk:Sex-stub#c-Booyabazooka-2007-07-19T16:10:00.000Z-Billyjoekini-2007-07-19T05:21:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:10, 19 July 2007 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Booyabazooka-2007-07-19T16:10:00.000Z-Billyjoekini-2007-07-19T05:21:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Booyabazooka-2007-07-19T16:10:00.000Z-Billyjoekini-2007-07-19T05:21:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-AnonMoos-2007-09-19T03:26:00.000Z-Stub_template_image_discussion"></span>Are you sure the current image wouldn't fit better as the symbol for the anal sex template? Seriously, though, what's wrong with having the two symbols <i>separate</i>, so that we don't implicitly exclude all the other ways of doing it? I'd urge a compromise where we add in a second man <span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Sexes-planetary-sym-dimcolors-mmf.png" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/8/82/Sexes-planetary-sym-dimcolors-mmf.png/40px-Sexes-planetary-sym-dimcolors-mmf.png" decoding="async" width="40" height="46" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/8/82/Sexes-planetary-sym-dimcolors-mmf.png/60px-Sexes-planetary-sym-dimcolors-mmf.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/8/82/Sexes-planetary-sym-dimcolors-mmf.png/80px-Sexes-planetary-sym-dimcolors-mmf.png 2x" data-file-width="605" data-file-height="700"/></a></span>, but I doubt it'd fly. <i>-- 01:01, 19 September 2007 <a href="/wiki/User:Mqduck" title="User:Mqduck">User:Mqduck</a></i> </p> <dl><dd>Well, your proposal seems to depict a three-way, and it leaves out lesbianism. <span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:SFriendly.gif" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/58/SFriendly.gif/20px-SFriendly.gif" decoding="async" width="20" height="20" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/58/SFriendly.gif/30px-SFriendly.gif 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/58/SFriendly.gif/40px-SFriendly.gif 2x" data-file-width="54" data-file-height="53"/></a></span> The image is somewhat complex, and the leftmost male symbol is not in its customary orientation, which means that it's not as easy to decipher when displayed at the tiny resolution used for stub template thumbnails. Seriously, an image which is to be used as a stub template benefits from being as simple and obvious as possible in general meaning when seen at a very small size, but without having particular specific associations which would make it suitable for only a small part of the subject area covered by the template. The current image suggests them "doing it", because that's an obvious way of suggesting sexuality, while if you had isolated Mars and Venus signs side-by-side, that could be a symbol for gender psychology etc. And I'm not sure where you get an anal sex interpretation of the current image -- if you literalistically and pedantically map an astrological Venus sign onto the female body, then there would appear to be penetration of a non-existent orifice in the middle of her stomach! The image is actually intended to be quite vague in this respect (which is probably a good thing for satisfying the highly-specific requirements placed on images which are to be used as stub template thumbnails). <a href="/wiki/User:AnonMoos" title="User:AnonMoos">AnonMoos</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template_talk:Sex-stub#c-AnonMoos-2007-09-19T03:26:00.000Z-Stub_template_image_discussion" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">03:26, 19 September 2007 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-AnonMoos-2007-09-19T03:26:00.000Z-Stub_template_image_discussion"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-AnonMoos-2007-09-19T03:26:00.000Z-Stub_template_image_discussion"></span></dd></dl> <hr/> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-AnonMoos-2011-09-01T07:44:00.000Z-Stub_template_image_discussion"></span>What about one of these? <span class="mw-default-size" typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:3together.png" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/9a/3together.png" decoding="async" width="43" height="22" class="mw-file-element" data-file-width="43" data-file-height="22"/></a></span> or <span class="mw-default-size" typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:5gendersexualitysymbols.png" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/c7/5gendersexualitysymbols.png" decoding="async" width="50" height="22" class="mw-file-element" data-file-width="50" data-file-height="22"/></a></span>. <i>-- 01:53, 18 May 2010 <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Sawibel07&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Sawibel07 (page does not exist)">User:Sawibel07</a></i> </p> <dl><dd>Well, it would be nice if they were in SVG, or at least had decent resolution (instead of being small and blurry), and they seem to strongly de-emphasize heterosexuality (which is numerically the most common). P.S. You might have received a quicker reply if you had signed your comment. <a href="/wiki/User:AnonMoos" title="User:AnonMoos">AnonMoos</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:AnonMoos" title="User talk:AnonMoos">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template_talk:Sex-stub#c-AnonMoos-2011-09-01T07:44:00.000Z-Stub_template_image_discussion" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">07:44, 1 September 2011 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-AnonMoos-2011-09-01T07:44:00.000Z-Stub_template_image_discussion"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-AnonMoos-2011-09-01T07:44:00.000Z-Stub_template_image_discussion"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="the_image_sucks" data-mw-thread-id="h-the_image_sucks-2007-11-26T00:26:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-the_image_sucks-2007-11-26T00:26:00.000Z"></span>the image sucks<span data-mw-comment-end="h-the_image_sucks-2007-11-26T00:26:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Template_talk:Sex-stub&action=edit&section=2" title="Edit section: the image sucks"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Lysis_rationale-2007-11-26T00:26:00.000Z-the_image_sucks"></span>no offense, but something like this <span class="mwe-math-element"><span class="mwe-math-mathml-inline mwe-math-mathml-a11y" style="display: none;"><math xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1998/Math/MathML" alttext="{\displaystyle \mathrm {L\!\!^{{}_{\scriptstyle \mathrm {A} }}\!\!\!\!\!\;\;\mathrm {T} \!_{\displaystyle \mathrm {E} }\!\mathrm {X} } }"> <semantics> <mrow class="MJX-TeXAtom-ORD"> <mstyle displaystyle="true" scriptlevel="0"> <mrow class="MJX-TeXAtom-ORD"> <mi mathvariant="normal">L</mi> <mspace width="negativethinmathspace"></mspace> <msup> <mspace width="negativethinmathspace"></mspace> <mrow class="MJX-TeXAtom-ORD"> <msub> <mrow class="MJX-TeXAtom-ORD"> </mrow> <mrow class="MJX-TeXAtom-ORD"> <mstyle displaystyle="false" scriptlevel="1"> <mrow class="MJX-TeXAtom-ORD"> <mi mathvariant="normal">A</mi> </mrow> </mstyle> </mrow> </msub> </mrow> </msup> <mspace width="negativethinmathspace"></mspace> <mspace width="negativethinmathspace"></mspace> <mspace width="negativethinmathspace"></mspace> <mspace width="negativethinmathspace"></mspace> <mspace width="negativethinmathspace"></mspace> <mspace width="thickmathspace"></mspace> <mspace width="thickmathspace"></mspace> <mrow class="MJX-TeXAtom-ORD"> <mi mathvariant="normal">T</mi> </mrow> <msub> <mspace width="negativethinmathspace"></mspace> <mrow class="MJX-TeXAtom-ORD"> <mstyle displaystyle="true" scriptlevel="0"> <mrow class="MJX-TeXAtom-ORD"> <mi mathvariant="normal">E</mi> </mrow> </mstyle> </mrow> </msub> <mspace width="negativethinmathspace"></mspace> <mrow class="MJX-TeXAtom-ORD"> <mi mathvariant="normal">X</mi> </mrow> </mrow> </mstyle> </mrow> <annotation encoding="application/x-tex">{\displaystyle \mathrm {L\!\!^{{}_{\scriptstyle \mathrm {A} }}\!\!\!\!\!\;\;\mathrm {T} \!_{\displaystyle \mathrm {E} }\!\mathrm {X} } }</annotation> </semantics> </math></span><img src="https://wikimedia.org/api/rest_v1/media/math/render/svg/b0712eb296a91b71a626fff28b5bba0d3906aefc" class="mwe-math-fallback-image-inline mw-invert skin-invert" aria-hidden="true" style="vertical-align: -1.005ex; width:6.125ex; height:2.843ex;" alt="{\displaystyle \mathrm {L\!\!^{{}_{\scriptstyle \mathrm {A} }}\!\!\!\!\!\;\;\mathrm {T} \!_{\displaystyle \mathrm {E} }\!\mathrm {X} } }"/></span> would be much better. Of course it would have to say <i>SeX</i> not <i>LaTeX</i>, but I don't know latex. <a href="/wiki/User:Lysis_rationale" title="User:Lysis rationale">Lysis rationale</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Lysis_rationale" title="User talk:Lysis rationale">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template_talk:Sex-stub#c-Lysis_rationale-2007-11-26T00:26:00.000Z-the_image_sucks" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:26, 26 November 2007 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Lysis_rationale-2007-11-26T00:26:00.000Z-the_image_sucks"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Lysis_rationale-2007-11-26T00:26:00.000Z-the_image_sucks"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Lysis_rationale-2007-11-26T00:40:00.000Z-Lysis_rationale-2007-11-26T00:26:00.000Z"></span>I somehow managed to make it say <i>LaSeX</i> and make it red: <span class="mwe-math-element"><span class="mwe-math-mathml-inline mwe-math-mathml-a11y" style="display: none;"><math xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1998/Math/MathML" alttext="{\displaystyle {\color {Red}\mathrm {L\!\!^{{}_{\scriptstyle \mathrm {A} }}\!\!\!\!\!\;\;\mathbf {S} \!_{\displaystyle \mathrm {E} }\!\mathrm {X} } }}"> <semantics> <mrow class="MJX-TeXAtom-ORD"> <mstyle displaystyle="true" scriptlevel="0"> <mrow class="MJX-TeXAtom-ORD"> <mstyle mathcolor="#ED1B23"> <mrow class="MJX-TeXAtom-ORD"> <mi mathvariant="normal">L</mi> <mspace width="negativethinmathspace"></mspace> <msup> <mspace width="negativethinmathspace"></mspace> <mrow class="MJX-TeXAtom-ORD"> <msub> <mrow class="MJX-TeXAtom-ORD"> </mrow> <mrow class="MJX-TeXAtom-ORD"> <mstyle displaystyle="false" scriptlevel="1"> <mrow class="MJX-TeXAtom-ORD"> <mi mathvariant="normal">A</mi> </mrow> </mstyle> </mrow> </msub> </mrow> </msup> <mspace width="negativethinmathspace"></mspace> <mspace width="negativethinmathspace"></mspace> <mspace width="negativethinmathspace"></mspace> <mspace width="negativethinmathspace"></mspace> <mspace width="negativethinmathspace"></mspace> <mspace width="thickmathspace"></mspace> <mspace width="thickmathspace"></mspace> <mrow class="MJX-TeXAtom-ORD"> <mi mathvariant="bold">S</mi> </mrow> <msub> <mspace width="negativethinmathspace"></mspace> <mrow class="MJX-TeXAtom-ORD"> <mstyle displaystyle="true" scriptlevel="0"> <mrow class="MJX-TeXAtom-ORD"> <mi mathvariant="normal">E</mi> </mrow> </mstyle> </mrow> </msub> <mspace width="negativethinmathspace"></mspace> <mrow class="MJX-TeXAtom-ORD"> <mi mathvariant="normal">X</mi> </mrow> </mrow> </mstyle> </mrow> </mstyle> </mrow> <annotation encoding="application/x-tex">{\displaystyle {\color {Red}\mathrm {L\!\!^{{}_{\scriptstyle \mathrm {A} }}\!\!\!\!\!\;\;\mathbf {S} \!_{\displaystyle \mathrm {E} }\!\mathrm {X} } }}</annotation> </semantics> </math></span><img src="https://wikimedia.org/api/rest_v1/media/math/render/svg/451c62b1d51e4d108cac20174522d118d3677a84" class="mwe-math-fallback-image-inline mw-invert skin-invert" aria-hidden="true" style="vertical-align: -1.005ex; width:5.932ex; height:2.843ex;" alt="{\displaystyle {\color {Red}\mathrm {L\!\!^{{}_{\scriptstyle \mathrm {A} }}\!\!\!\!\!\;\;\mathbf {S} \!_{\displaystyle \mathrm {E} }\!\mathrm {X} } }}"/></span> but I can't get rid of the <i>L</i> and <i>A</i>. <a href="/wiki/User:Lysis_rationale" title="User:Lysis rationale">Lysis rationale</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Lysis_rationale" title="User talk:Lysis rationale">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template_talk:Sex-stub#c-Lysis_rationale-2007-11-26T00:40:00.000Z-Lysis_rationale-2007-11-26T00:26:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:40, 26 November 2007 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Lysis_rationale-2007-11-26T00:40:00.000Z-Lysis_rationale-2007-11-26T00:26:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Lysis_rationale-2007-11-26T00:40:00.000Z-Lysis_rationale-2007-11-26T00:26:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-AnonMoos-2007-11-29T00:28:00.000Z-Lysis_rationale-2007-11-26T00:40:00.000Z"></span>You're actually using (some might say misusing) math markup which is intended for the purpose of rendering mathematical equations as raster images. There seems little point, since much the same effects could be accomplished purely textually using HTML tags, if desired. An image which is to be used as a stub template icon is subject to a number of specific technical and visual requirements, which may mean that it can't do all the things that people would like it to do. The main thing is to be simple enough to be relatively clear at a tiny pixel resolution, and to symbolize some main aspect or typical manifestation of the subject matter covered by the stub template, without having irrelevant strong associations to subject matters not covered by the stub template... <a href="/wiki/User:AnonMoos" title="User:AnonMoos">AnonMoos</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:AnonMoos" title="User talk:AnonMoos">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template_talk:Sex-stub#c-AnonMoos-2007-11-29T00:28:00.000Z-Lysis_rationale-2007-11-26T00:40:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:28, 29 November 2007 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-AnonMoos-2007-11-29T00:28:00.000Z-Lysis_rationale-2007-11-26T00:40:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-AnonMoos-2007-11-29T00:28:00.000Z-Lysis_rationale-2007-11-26T00:40:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><span class="mw-default-size" typeof="mw:Error mw:File"><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Upload?wpDestFile=StubSexByMithgol.png" class="new" title="File:StubSexByMithgol.png"><span class="mw-file-element mw-broken-media"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-AuburnPilot-2007-12-11T04:17:00.000Z-AnonMoos-2007-11-29T00:28:00.000Z"></span>File:StubSexByMithgol.png</span></a></span> is unquestionably the best sex-stub image in existence. I believe it's used on the Russian Wikipedia. - <a href="/wiki/User:AuburnPilot" title="User:AuburnPilot"><span style="color:#0000cd;">auburn</span><span style="color:#EF6521;">pilot</span></a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:AuburnPilot" title="User talk:AuburnPilot"><small>talk</small></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template_talk:Sex-stub#c-AuburnPilot-2007-12-11T04:17:00.000Z-AnonMoos-2007-11-29T00:28:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">04:17, 11 December 2007 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-AuburnPilot-2007-12-11T04:17:00.000Z-AnonMoos-2007-11-29T00:28:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-AuburnPilot-2007-12-11T04:17:00.000Z-AnonMoos-2007-11-29T00:28:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Kotra-2007-12-11T06:42:00.000Z-AuburnPilot-2007-12-11T04:17:00.000Z"></span>If we're going for the most common form of sex, missionary position would probably better. But that's not bad. -<a href="/wiki/User:Kotra" title="User:Kotra">kotra</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Kotra" title="User talk:Kotra">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template_talk:Sex-stub#c-Kotra-2007-12-11T06:42:00.000Z-AuburnPilot-2007-12-11T04:17:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">06:42, 11 December 2007 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Kotra-2007-12-11T06:42:00.000Z-AuburnPilot-2007-12-11T04:17:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Kotra-2007-12-11T06:42:00.000Z-AuburnPilot-2007-12-11T04:17:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-AnonMoos-2009-01-11T12:36:00.000Z-the_image_sucks"></span><figure class="mw-halign-right" typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:RWS07_The-Chariot_yoni-lingam_Symbol.svg" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/d3/RWS07_The-Chariot_yoni-lingam_Symbol.svg/120px-RWS07_The-Chariot_yoni-lingam_Symbol.svg.png" decoding="async" width="120" height="120" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/d3/RWS07_The-Chariot_yoni-lingam_Symbol.svg/180px-RWS07_The-Chariot_yoni-lingam_Symbol.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/d3/RWS07_The-Chariot_yoni-lingam_Symbol.svg/240px-RWS07_The-Chariot_yoni-lingam_Symbol.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="480" data-file-height="480"/></a><figcaption></figcaption></figure> <hr/> <p>Here's an even more abstractly symbolic image... <a href="/wiki/User:AnonMoos" title="User:AnonMoos">AnonMoos</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:AnonMoos" title="User talk:AnonMoos">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template_talk:Sex-stub#c-AnonMoos-2009-01-11T12:36:00.000Z-the_image_sucks" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:36, 11 January 2009 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-AnonMoos-2009-01-11T12:36:00.000Z-the_image_sucks"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-AnonMoos-2009-01-11T12:36:00.000Z-the_image_sucks"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Kotra-2009-01-11T20:23:00.000Z-AnonMoos-2009-01-11T12:36:00.000Z"></span>That's pretty obscure (I had to click on it and read the description to even figure it out), and if I'm interpreting it correctly, it only shows male-female intercourse. I think the above (current) option is still the best we have, since at its small size they could be any gender. -<a href="/wiki/User:Kotra" title="User:Kotra">kotra</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Kotra" title="User talk:Kotra">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template_talk:Sex-stub#c-Kotra-2009-01-11T20:23:00.000Z-AnonMoos-2009-01-11T12:36:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:23, 11 January 2009 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Kotra-2009-01-11T20:23:00.000Z-AnonMoos-2009-01-11T12:36:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Kotra-2009-01-11T20:23:00.000Z-AnonMoos-2009-01-11T12:36:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-AnonMoos-2009-01-12T17:53:00.000Z-Kotra-2009-01-11T20:23:00.000Z"></span>I said it was "abstractly symbolic" <span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:SFriendly.gif" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/58/SFriendly.gif/20px-SFriendly.gif" decoding="async" width="20" height="20" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/58/SFriendly.gif/30px-SFriendly.gif 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/58/SFriendly.gif/40px-SFriendly.gif 2x" data-file-width="54" data-file-height="53"/></a></span> (for those who complained that <span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Sexes-planetary-sym-dimcolors.svg" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/53/Sexes-planetary-sym-dimcolors.svg/48px-Sexes-planetary-sym-dimcolors.svg.png" decoding="async" width="48" height="48" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/53/Sexes-planetary-sym-dimcolors.svg/72px-Sexes-planetary-sym-dimcolors.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/53/Sexes-planetary-sym-dimcolors.svg/96px-Sexes-planetary-sym-dimcolors.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="600" data-file-height="600"/></a></span> was too obviously specific...) -- <a href="/wiki/User:AnonMoos" title="User:AnonMoos">AnonMoos</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:AnonMoos" title="User talk:AnonMoos">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template_talk:Sex-stub#c-AnonMoos-2009-01-12T17:53:00.000Z-Kotra-2009-01-11T20:23:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:53, 12 January 2009 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-AnonMoos-2009-01-12T17:53:00.000Z-Kotra-2009-01-11T20:23:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-AnonMoos-2009-01-12T17:53:00.000Z-Kotra-2009-01-11T20:23:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Kotra-2009-01-12T18:35:00.000Z-AnonMoos-2009-01-12T17:53:00.000Z"></span>Yes, I think <span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:RWS07_The-Chariot_yoni-lingam_Symbol.svg" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/d3/RWS07_The-Chariot_yoni-lingam_Symbol.svg/30px-RWS07_The-Chariot_yoni-lingam_Symbol.svg.png" decoding="async" width="30" height="30" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/d3/RWS07_The-Chariot_yoni-lingam_Symbol.svg/45px-RWS07_The-Chariot_yoni-lingam_Symbol.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/d3/RWS07_The-Chariot_yoni-lingam_Symbol.svg/60px-RWS07_The-Chariot_yoni-lingam_Symbol.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="480" data-file-height="480"/></a></span> > <span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Sexes-planetary-sym-dimcolors.svg" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/53/Sexes-planetary-sym-dimcolors.svg/30px-Sexes-planetary-sym-dimcolors.svg.png" decoding="async" width="30" height="30" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/53/Sexes-planetary-sym-dimcolors.svg/45px-Sexes-planetary-sym-dimcolors.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/53/Sexes-planetary-sym-dimcolors.svg/60px-Sexes-planetary-sym-dimcolors.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="600" data-file-height="600"/></a></span>, but <span typeof="mw:Error mw:File"><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Upload?wpDestFile=StubSexByMithgol.png" class="new" title="File:StubSexByMithgol.png"><span class="mw-file-element mw-broken-media" data-width="30">File:StubSexByMithgol.png</span></a></span> > <span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:RWS07_The-Chariot_yoni-lingam_Symbol.svg" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/d3/RWS07_The-Chariot_yoni-lingam_Symbol.svg/30px-RWS07_The-Chariot_yoni-lingam_Symbol.svg.png" decoding="async" width="30" height="30" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/d3/RWS07_The-Chariot_yoni-lingam_Symbol.svg/45px-RWS07_The-Chariot_yoni-lingam_Symbol.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/d3/RWS07_The-Chariot_yoni-lingam_Symbol.svg/60px-RWS07_The-Chariot_yoni-lingam_Symbol.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="480" data-file-height="480"/></a></span>. -<a href="/wiki/User:Kotra" title="User:Kotra">kotra</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Kotra" title="User talk:Kotra">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template_talk:Sex-stub#c-Kotra-2009-01-12T18:35:00.000Z-AnonMoos-2009-01-12T17:53:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:35, 12 January 2009 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Kotra-2009-01-12T18:35:00.000Z-AnonMoos-2009-01-12T17:53:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Kotra-2009-01-12T18:35:00.000Z-AnonMoos-2009-01-12T17:53:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Outsider80_change" data-mw-thread-id="h-Outsider80_change-2009-02-15T17:51:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Outsider80_change-2009-02-15T17:51:00.000Z"></span>Outsider80 change<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Outsider80_change-2009-02-15T17:51:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Template_talk:Sex-stub&action=edit&section=3" title="Edit section: Outsider80 change"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-AnonMoos-2009-02-15T17:51:00.000Z-Outsider80_change"></span>An improvement! -- <a href="/wiki/User:AnonMoos" title="User:AnonMoos">AnonMoos</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:AnonMoos" title="User talk:AnonMoos">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template_talk:Sex-stub#c-AnonMoos-2009-02-15T17:51:00.000Z-Outsider80_change" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:51, 15 February 2009 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-AnonMoos-2009-02-15T17:51:00.000Z-Outsider80_change"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-AnonMoos-2009-02-15T17:51:00.000Z-Outsider80_change"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Lucasbfr-2009-02-15T17:59:00.000Z-AnonMoos-2009-02-15T17:51:00.000Z"></span>Indeed. -- <a href="/wiki/User:Lucasbfr" title="User:Lucasbfr"><span style="color:#002BB8;">lucasbfr</span></a> <sup><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Lucasbfr&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:Lucasbfr (page does not exist)"><span style="color:#BB33FF;">talk</span></a></sup> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template_talk:Sex-stub#c-Lucasbfr-2009-02-15T17:59:00.000Z-AnonMoos-2009-02-15T17:51:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:59, 15 February 2009 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Lucasbfr-2009-02-15T17:59:00.000Z-AnonMoos-2009-02-15T17:51:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Lucasbfr-2009-02-15T17:59:00.000Z-AnonMoos-2009-02-15T17:51:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="The_symbol..._again..." data-mw-thread-id="h-The_symbol..._again...-2013-02-04T00:26:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-The_symbol..._again...-2013-02-04T00:26:00.000Z"></span>The symbol... again...<span data-mw-comment-end="h-The_symbol..._again...-2013-02-04T00:26:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Template_talk:Sex-stub&action=edit&section=4" title="Edit section: The symbol... again..."><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Surtsicna-2013-02-04T00:26:00.000Z-The_symbol..._again..."></span>I too have to say that I found the symbol quite ironic when, while reading about <a href="/wiki/Sandra_Leiblum" title="Sandra Leiblum">Sandra Leiblum</a>, I came across the article about the <i><a href="/wiki/Journal_of_Gay_and_Lesbian_Social_Services" class="mw-redirect" title="Journal of Gay and Lesbian Social Services">Journal of Gay and Lesbian Social Services</a></i>. The article mentions day-to-day experiences of people affected by <a href="/wiki/Heterosexism" title="Heterosexism">heterosexism</a>, while just a few centimeters below that sentence one can see <a href="/wiki/File:HeteroSym-pinkblue2.svg" title="File:HeteroSym-pinkblue2.svg">File:HeteroSym-pinkblue2.svg</a> as the sole symbol of <a href="/wiki/Sexuality" class="mw-redirect" title="Sexuality">sexuality</a>. <a href="/wiki/User:Surtsicna" title="User:Surtsicna">Surtsicna</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Surtsicna" title="User talk:Surtsicna">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template_talk:Sex-stub#c-Surtsicna-2013-02-04T00:26:00.000Z-The_symbol..._again..." class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:26, 4 February 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Surtsicna-2013-02-04T00:26:00.000Z-The_symbol..._again..."><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Surtsicna-2013-02-04T00:26:00.000Z-The_symbol..._again..."></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-AnonMoos-2013-02-04T02:04:00.000Z-Surtsicna-2013-02-04T00:26:00.000Z"></span>I'm the image author of <a href="/wiki/File:HeteroSym-pinkblue2.svg" title="File:HeteroSym-pinkblue2.svg">File:HeteroSym-pinkblue2.svg</a> and I don't think it's the best image for this use (just among the images I've made <a href="/wiki/File:Sexes-planetary-sym-dimcolors.svg" title="File:Sexes-planetary-sym-dimcolors.svg">File:Sexes-planetary-sym-dimcolors.svg</a> would be superior, as I first proposed in 2007). However, <a href="/wiki/File:Sexual_orientation_-_4_symbols.svg" title="File:Sexual orientation - 4 symbols.svg">File:Sexual orientation - 4 symbols.svg</a> is also not too useful for this purpose -- it suggests a range of sexual orientations, but does little to suggest sex itself, and when reduced to small icon size, it's somewhat complex, and hard to understand at a glance... <a href="/wiki/User:AnonMoos" title="User:AnonMoos">AnonMoos</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:AnonMoos" title="User talk:AnonMoos">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template_talk:Sex-stub#c-AnonMoos-2013-02-04T02:04:00.000Z-Surtsicna-2013-02-04T00:26:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">02:04, 4 February 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-AnonMoos-2013-02-04T02:04:00.000Z-Surtsicna-2013-02-04T00:26:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-AnonMoos-2013-02-04T02:04:00.000Z-Surtsicna-2013-02-04T00:26:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Should_this_link_to_Sexology,_or_Human_sexuality?" data-mw-thread-id="h-Should_this_link_to_Sexology,_or_Human_sexuality?-2013-03-02T06:11:00.000Z"><span id="Should_this_link_to_Sexology.2C_or_Human_sexuality.3F"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Should_this_link_to_Sexology,_or_Human_sexuality?-2013-03-02T06:11:00.000Z"></span>Should this link to <a href="/wiki/Sexology" title="Sexology">Sexology</a>, or <a href="/wiki/Human_sexuality" title="Human sexuality">Human sexuality</a>?<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Should_this_link_to_Sexology,_or_Human_sexuality?-2013-03-02T06:11:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Template_talk:Sex-stub&action=edit&section=5" title="Edit section: Should this link to Sexology, or Human sexuality?"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Dtgriscom-2013-03-02T06:11:00.000Z-Should_this_link_to_Sexology,_or_Human_sexuality?"></span>I find it a bit strange that this template links to <a href="/wiki/Sexology" title="Sexology">sexology</a>, which is the "study of human sexuality". It seems far more appropriate that it link to <a href="/wiki/Human_sexuality" title="Human sexuality">human sexuality</a> itself. -- <a href="/wiki/User:Dtgriscom" title="User:Dtgriscom">Dan Griscom</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Dtgriscom" title="User talk:Dtgriscom">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template_talk:Sex-stub#c-Dtgriscom-2013-03-02T06:11:00.000Z-Should_this_link_to_Sexology,_or_Human_sexuality?" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">06:11, 2 March 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Dtgriscom-2013-03-02T06:11:00.000Z-Should_this_link_to_Sexology,_or_Human_sexuality?"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Dtgriscom-2013-03-02T06:11:00.000Z-Should_this_link_to_Sexology,_or_Human_sexuality?"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Dtgriscom-2013-03-09T22:14:00.000Z-Dtgriscom-2013-03-02T06:11:00.000Z"></span>Absent any other comment, I've changed the template to link to <a href="/wiki/Sexuality" class="mw-redirect" title="Sexuality">sexuality</a>. -- <a href="/wiki/User:Dtgriscom" title="User:Dtgriscom">Dan Griscom</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Dtgriscom" title="User talk:Dtgriscom">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template_talk:Sex-stub#c-Dtgriscom-2013-03-09T22:14:00.000Z-Dtgriscom-2013-03-02T06:11:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:14, 9 March 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Dtgriscom-2013-03-09T22:14:00.000Z-Dtgriscom-2013-03-02T06:11:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Dtgriscom-2013-03-09T22:14:00.000Z-Dtgriscom-2013-03-02T06:11:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl>    </div><noscript><img src="https://login.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:CentralAutoLogin/start?type=1x1" alt="" width="1" height="1" style="border: none; position: absolute;"></noscript> <div class="printfooter" data-nosnippet="">Retrieved from "<a dir="ltr" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template_talk:Sex-stub&oldid=1226920879">https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template_talk:Sex-stub&oldid=1226920879</a>"</div></div> <div id="catlinks" class="catlinks" data-mw="interface"><div id="mw-normal-catlinks" class="mw-normal-catlinks"><a href="/wiki/Help:Category" title="Help:Category">Categories</a>: <ul><li><a href="/wiki/Category:Template-Class_Sexology_and_sexuality_articles" title="Category:Template-Class Sexology and sexuality articles">Template-Class Sexology and sexuality articles</a></li><li><a href="/wiki/Category:NA-importance_Sexology_and_sexuality_articles" title="Category:NA-importance Sexology and sexuality articles">NA-importance Sexology and sexuality articles</a></li><li><a href="/wiki/Category:WikiProject_Sexology_and_sexuality_articles" title="Category:WikiProject Sexology and sexuality articles">WikiProject Sexology and sexuality articles</a></li></ul></div><div id="mw-hidden-catlinks" class="mw-hidden-catlinks mw-hidden-cats-hidden">Hidden category: <ul><li><a href="/wiki/Category:Pages_with_missing_files" title="Category:Pages with missing files">Pages with missing files</a></li></ul></div></div> </div> </main> </div> <div class="mw-footer-container"> <footer id="footer" class="mw-footer" > <ul id="footer-info"> <li id="footer-info-lastmod"> This page was last edited on 2 June 2024, at 15:50<span class="anonymous-show"> (UTC)</span>.</li> <li id="footer-info-copyright">Text is available under the <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Text_of_the_Creative_Commons_Attribution-ShareAlike_4.0_International_License" title="Wikipedia:Text of the Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike 4.0 International License">Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike 4.0 License</a>; additional terms may apply. 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