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decoding="async" width="35" height="25" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/d4/Flag_of_Israel.svg/52px-Flag_of_Israel.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/d4/Flag_of_Israel.svg/69px-Flag_of_Israel.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="1100" data-file-height="800"/></a></span></td><td class="wpb-header-combined"><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Israel" title="Wikipedia:WikiProject Israel">Israel</a> <span class="wpb-header-bubbles import-high">High‑importance</span></td></tr><tr><td class="mbox-text wpb-main" colspan="2"><table><tbody><tr><td class="mbox-image wpb-image"><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Flag_of_Israel.svg" class="mw-file-description"><img alt="WikiProject icon" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/d4/Flag_of_Israel.svg/80px-Flag_of_Israel.svg.png" decoding="async" width="80" height="58" class="mw-file-element" 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portal</a></span></li></ul>This article is within the scope of <b><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Israel" title="Wikipedia:WikiProject Israel">WikiProject Israel</a></b>, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of <a href="/wiki/Israel" title="Israel">Israel</a> on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Israel" title="Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Israel">the discussion</a> and see a list of open tasks.<span class="metadata wpb-metadata"><span class="wpb-project">Israel</span><span class="wpb-project_link">Wikipedia:WikiProject Israel</span><span class="wpb-banner_name">Template:WikiProject Israel</span><span class="wpb-assessment_cat">Israel-related articles</span></span></td><td class="mbox-empty-cell"></td></tr><tr><td class="assess import-high"><a href="/wiki/Category:High-importance_Israel-related_articles" title="Category:High-importance Israel-related articles">High</a></td><td class="mbox-text" colspan="2">This article has been rated as <b>High-importance</b> on the <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Israel/Assessment#Importance_scale" title="Wikipedia:WikiProject Israel/Assessment">project's importance scale</a>.</td></tr><tr><td colspan="3" style="padding:0"><table class="mw-collapsible mw-collapsed" style="background:transparent;width:100%"><tbody><tr><th style="text-align:left;padding:0.2em 2px 0.2em 0">Project Israel To Do:</th></tr><tr><td style="text-align:left;padding:5px;background-color:white;border:1px solid #c0c090;margin-top:5px"><style data-mw-deduplicate="TemplateStyles:r1129693374">.mw-parser-output .hlist dl,.mw-parser-output .hlist ol,.mw-parser-output .hlist ul{margin:0;padding:0}.mw-parser-output .hlist dd,.mw-parser-output .hlist dt,.mw-parser-output .hlist li{margin:0;display:inline}.mw-parser-output .hlist.inline,.mw-parser-output .hlist.inline dl,.mw-parser-output .hlist.inline ol,.mw-parser-output .hlist.inline ul,.mw-parser-output .hlist dl dl,.mw-parser-output .hlist dl ol,.mw-parser-output .hlist dl ul,.mw-parser-output .hlist ol dl,.mw-parser-output .hlist ol ol,.mw-parser-output .hlist ol ul,.mw-parser-output .hlist ul dl,.mw-parser-output .hlist ul ol,.mw-parser-output .hlist ul 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href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia%3AWikiProject_Israel%2Fto_do2&amp;action=history">history</a></li><li><a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia%3AWikiProject_Israel%2Fto_do2&amp;action=watch">watch</a></li><li><a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia%3AWikiProject_Israel%2Fto_do2&amp;action=purge">purge</a></li></ul> </div> <table style="background:none;color:inherit;width:auto;"> <tbody><tr> <td style="vertical-align:top;"> <span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Nuvola_apps_korganizer.svg" class="mw-file-description"><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/e/e6/Nuvola_apps_korganizer.svg/50px-Nuvola_apps_korganizer.svg.png" decoding="async" width="50" height="50" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/e/e6/Nuvola_apps_korganizer.svg/75px-Nuvola_apps_korganizer.svg.png 1.5x, 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class="external text" href="https://tools.wmflabs.org/bambots/cwb/alpha/Israel.html">Cleanup listing for this project</a> is available. See also <a class="external text" href="https://tools.wmflabs.org/bambots/cwb/bycat/Israel.html">the list by category</a> and <a href="/wiki/User:CleanupWorklistBot" title="User:CleanupWorklistBot">the tool's wiki page</a>.</li><li><b><i><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Collaborations" title="Wikipedia:Collaborations">Collaborate</a></i> :</b> Participate in <i><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Israel_Palestine_Collaboration" title="Wikipedia:WikiProject Israel Palestine Collaboration">WikiProject Israel Palestine Collaboration</a></i>.</li><li><b><i><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Basic_copyediting" title="Wikipedia:Basic copyediting">Copyedit</a></i> :</b> <a href="/wiki/Timeline_of_the_Israeli%E2%80%93Palestinian_conflict_in_2005" title="Timeline of the Israeli–Palestinian conflict in 2005">Timeline of the Israeli–Palestinian conflict in 2005</a></li><li><b><i><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Deletion_sorting" title="Wikipedia:WikiProject Deletion sorting">Deletion sorting</a></i> :</b> Participate in discussions at <i><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Deletion_sorting/Israel" title="Wikipedia:WikiProject Deletion sorting/Israel">WikiProject Deletion sorting/Israel</a></i>.</li><li><b><i><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Writing_better_articles" title="Wikipedia:Writing better articles">Expand</a></i> :</b> <a href="/wiki/Ayala_Procaccia" title="Ayala Procaccia">Ayala Procaccia</a>, <a href="/wiki/Diamond_industry_in_Israel" title="Diamond industry in Israel">Diamond industry in Israel</a>, <a href="/wiki/Edna_Arbel" title="Edna Arbel">Edna Arbel</a>, <a href="/wiki/Levin_Kipnis" title="Levin Kipnis">Levin Kipnis</a>, <a href="/wiki/Rami_Kleinstein" title="Rami Kleinstein">Rami Kleinstein</a>, <a href="/wiki/Sephardic_Haredim" title="Sephardic Haredim">Sephardic Haredim</a>, <a href="/wiki/Zman_Tel_Aviv" class="mw-redirect" title="Zman Tel Aviv">Zman Tel Aviv</a>, <a href="/wiki/Nachum_Heiman" title="Nachum Heiman">Nachum Heiman</a>, <a href="/wiki/Public_Defence_(Israel)" class="mw-redirect" title="Public Defence (Israel)">Public Defence (Israel)</a>, <a href="/wiki/Prisoner_of_Zion" title="Prisoner of Zion">Prisoner of Zion</a>, <a href="/wiki/Trial_of_Benjamin_Netanyahu" title="Trial of Benjamin Netanyahu">Trial of Benjamin Netanyahu</a>, <a href="/wiki/Day_to_Mark_the_Departure_and_Expulsion_of_Jews_from_the_Arab_Countries_and_Iran" title="Day to Mark the Departure and Expulsion of Jews from the Arab Countries and Iran">Day to Mark the Departure and Expulsion of Jews from the Arab Countries and Iran</a>, <a href="/wiki/Aliyah#Pre-modern_aliyah" title="Aliyah">Pre-Modern Aliyah</a> <br/>See also <i><a href="/wiki/Category:Articles_needing_translation_from_Hebrew_Wikipedia" title="Category:Articles needing translation from Hebrew Wikipedia">Articles needing translation from Hebrew Wikipedia</a></i>.</li><li><b><i><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Geographical_coordinates" title="Wikipedia:WikiProject Geographical coordinates">Geographical coordinates</a></i> :</b> Add geographic coordinates to <i><a href="/wiki/Category:Israel_articles_missing_geocoordinate_data" title="Category:Israel articles missing geocoordinate data">Israel articles missing geocoordinate data</a></i>.</li><li><b><i><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Manual_of_Style/Infoboxes" title="Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Infoboxes">Infobox</a></i> :</b> Add infoboxes to <i><a href="/wiki/Category:Israel_articles_needing_infoboxes" title="Category:Israel articles needing infoboxes">Israel articles needing infoboxes</a></i>.</li><li><b><i><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Maintenance" title="Wikipedia:Maintenance">Maintain</a></i> :</b> See <i><a href="/wiki/Category:Israel_articles_needing_attention" title="Category:Israel articles needing attention">Israel articles needing attention</a></i>.</li><li><b><i><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Maps" title="Wikipedia:WikiProject Maps">Map</a></i> :</b> See discussion at <a href="/wiki/Module:Location_map/data/Israel" title="Module:Location map/data/Israel">Module:Location map/data/Israel</a>. Add maps to articles in <i><a href="/wiki/Category:Wikipedia_requested_maps_in_Israel" title="Category:Wikipedia requested maps in Israel">Wikipedia requested maps in Israel</a></i>.</li><li><b><i><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Neutral_point_of_view" title="Wikipedia:Neutral point of view">NPOV</a></i> :</b> <a href="/wiki/Jewish_exodus_from_Arab_and_Muslim_countries" class="mw-redirect" title="Jewish exodus from Arab and Muslim countries">Jewish exodus from Arab and Muslim countries</a></li><li><b><i><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Requested_pictures" title="Wikipedia:Requested pictures">Photo</a></i> :</b> Add pictures to articles in <i><a href="/wiki/Category:Wikipedia_requested_photographs_in_Israel" title="Category:Wikipedia requested photographs in Israel">Wikipedia requested photographs in Israel</a></i>.</li><li><b><i><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Stub" title="Wikipedia:Stub">Stubs</a></i> :</b> See <i><a href="/wiki/Category:Israel_stubs" title="Category:Israel stubs">Israel stubs</a></i>.</li><li><b><i><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:As_of" title="Wikipedia:As of">Update</a></i> :</b> <a href="/wiki/Basic_Law_proposal:_Israel_as_the_Nation-State_of_the_Jewish_People" class="mw-redirect" title="Basic Law proposal: Israel as the Nation-State of the Jewish People">Basic Law proposal: Israel as the Nation-State of the Jewish People</a></li><li><b><i>Other</i> :</b> <br/> <ul><li><b><i>Translate to Hebrew</i> :</b> <a href="/wiki/David_Bar-Hayim" title="David Bar-Hayim">David Bar-Hayim</a>, <a href="/wiki/Guy_Bavli" title="Guy Bavli">Guy Bavli</a>, and <a href="/wiki/Guy_Oseary" title="Guy Oseary">Guy Oseary</a>.</li></ul> </li></ul> </div> </td></tr></tbody></table></td></tr></tbody></table></td></tr></tbody></table></td></tr></tbody></table> <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1237879475"><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1256394742"><table class="tmbox tmbox-notice mw-collapsible innercollapse wpb wpb-table"><tbody><tr class="wpb-header"><td class="wpb-header-icon"><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Flag_of_the_United_Arab_Republic_(1958%E2%80%931971).svg" class="mw-file-description"><img alt="WikiProject icon" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/5f/Flag_of_the_United_Arab_Republic_%281958%E2%80%931971%29.svg/35px-Flag_of_the_United_Arab_Republic_%281958%E2%80%931971%29.svg.png" decoding="async" width="35" height="23" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/5f/Flag_of_the_United_Arab_Republic_%281958%E2%80%931971%29.svg/53px-Flag_of_the_United_Arab_Republic_%281958%E2%80%931971%29.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/5f/Flag_of_the_United_Arab_Republic_%281958%E2%80%931971%29.svg/70px-Flag_of_the_United_Arab_Republic_%281958%E2%80%931971%29.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="900" data-file-height="600"/></a></span></td><td class="wpb-header-combined"><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Syria" title="Wikipedia:WikiProject Syria">Syria</a> <span class="wpb-header-bubbles import-high">High‑importance</span></td></tr><tr><td class="mbox-text wpb-main" colspan="2"><table><tbody><tr><td class="mbox-image wpb-image"><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Flag_of_the_United_Arab_Republic_(1958%E2%80%931971).svg" class="mw-file-description"><img alt="WikiProject icon" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/5f/Flag_of_the_United_Arab_Republic_%281958%E2%80%931971%29.svg/80px-Flag_of_the_United_Arab_Republic_%281958%E2%80%931971%29.svg.png" decoding="async" width="80" height="53" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/5f/Flag_of_the_United_Arab_Republic_%281958%E2%80%931971%29.svg/120px-Flag_of_the_United_Arab_Republic_%281958%E2%80%931971%29.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/5f/Flag_of_the_United_Arab_Republic_%281958%E2%80%931971%29.svg/160px-Flag_of_the_United_Arab_Republic_%281958%E2%80%931971%29.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="900" data-file-height="600"/></a></span></td><td class="mbox-text">This article is within the scope of <b><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Syria" title="Wikipedia:WikiProject Syria">WikiProject Syria</a></b>, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of <a href="/wiki/Syria" title="Syria">Syria</a> on Wikipedia. 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ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-Selfstudier-20240903161300&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-Revert-20240903161300&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-Selfstudier-20240903161300-Revert&quot;,&quot;c-Supreme_Deliciousness-20240903163800-Revert&quot;,&quot;c-Sean.hoyland-20240904151000-Revert&quot;,&quot;c-Sean.hoyland-20240904154600-Revert&quot;,&quot;c-Nableezy-20240908123000-Revert&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Revert&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;Revert&quot;}--><h2 id="Revert" data-mw-thread-id="h-Revert-20240903161300"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Revert-20240903161300"></span>Revert<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Revert-20240903161300"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Talk:Golan_Heights&amp;action=edit&amp;section=1" title="Edit section: Revert"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Selfstudier-20240903161300","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Revert-20240903161300","replies":["c-Selfstudier-20240903161300-Revert","c-Supreme_Deliciousness-20240903163800-Revert","c-Sean.hoyland-20240904151000-Revert","c-Sean.hoyland-20240904154600-Revert","c-Nableezy-20240908123000-Revert"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-Starship.paint-20240920115700-Nableezy-20240908123000","timestamp":"20240920115700"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__27__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__12__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-Selfstudier-20240903161300&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-Revert-20240903161300&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-Selfstudier-20240903161300-Revert&quot;,&quot;c-Supreme_Deliciousness-20240903163800-Revert&quot;,&quot;c-Sean.hoyland-20240904151000-Revert&quot;,&quot;c-Sean.hoyland-20240904154600-Revert&quot;,&quot;c-Nableezy-20240908123000-Revert&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Revert&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;Revert&quot;}--></div></div></div> <p><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Selfstudier-20240903161300-Revert"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:PeleYoetz" title="User:PeleYoetz">PeleYoetz</a>:</span> Kindly explain <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Golan_Heights&amp;diff=1243812404&amp;oldid=1243617957">this revert</a> (second time in two days) "not convinced at all" is not a valid argument. (btw, I am still waiting for an explanation of your revert at <a href="/wiki/Second_Intifada" title="Second Intifada">Second Intifada</a>). <a href="/wiki/User:Selfstudier" title="User:Selfstudier">Selfstudier</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Selfstudier" title="User talk:Selfstudier">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Golan_Heights#c-Selfstudier-20240903161300-Revert" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:13, 3 September 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Selfstudier-20240903161300-Revert"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240903161300","author":"Selfstudier","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Selfstudier-20240903161300-Revert","replies":["c-Nableezy-20240903162600-Selfstudier-20240903161300"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Selfstudier-20240903161300-Revert"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Nableezy-20240903162600-Selfstudier-20240903161300"></span>I'm restoring this, it is well sourced and not a single person has offered anything besides a personal opinion as to why it should not be included. You cant just say no to high quality reliable sources directly discussing material in an article, and nobody needs to convince an editor of anything here. This material has weight given the sources, and it is directly related to what is already in the article. <b><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Nableezy" title="User talk:Nableezy"><span style="color:#C11B17;font-size:90%">nableezy</span></a></b> - <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Golan_Heights#c-Nableezy-20240903162600-Selfstudier-20240903161300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:26, 3 September 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Nableezy-20240903162600-Selfstudier-20240903161300"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240903162600","author":"Nableezy","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Nableezy-20240903162600-Selfstudier-20240903161300","replies":["c-ABHammad-20240904073900-Nableezy-20240903162600"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Nableezy-20240903162600-Selfstudier-20240903161300"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-ABHammad-20240904073900-Nableezy-20240903162600"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:Barkeep49" title="User:Barkeep49">Barkeep49</a>, @<a href="/wiki/User:ScottishFinnishRadish" title="User:ScottishFinnishRadish">ScottishFinnishRadish</a>, @<a href="/wiki/User:Theleekycauldron" title="User:Theleekycauldron">Theleekycauldron</a>, @<a href="/wiki/User:Red-tailed_hawk" title="User:Red-tailed hawk">Red-tailed hawk</a>, @<a href="/w/index.php?title=User:BilledMammal&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="User:BilledMammal (page does not exist)">BilledMammal</a> Here is another fresh clean and clear case of POV-pushing through edit warring. A neutral line about Katzrin, a local landmark, was changed by @<a href="/wiki/User:Supreme_Deliciousness" title="User:Supreme Deliciousness">Supreme Deliciousness</a> to include extremely unneccesary and undue politicization. Even though the disputed change was reverted, @<a href="/wiki/User:Zero0000" title="User:Zero0000">Zero0000</a> (<a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Golan_Heights&amp;diff=prev&amp;oldid=1243617957">here</a>), and now @<a href="/wiki/User:Nableezy" title="User:Nableezy">Nableezy</a> (<a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Golan_Heights&amp;diff=next&amp;oldid=1243812404">here</a>, also casting aspersions), have continued to forcefully push this controversial content through edit warring and bullying behavior. I'm going to:</dd> <dd>1. Ask @<a href="/wiki/User:Nableezy" title="User:Nableezy">Nableezy</a> to engage in discussion here instead of continuing the edit war over disputed changes.</dd> <dd>2. Ask @<a href="/wiki/User:Barkeep49" title="User:Barkeep49">Barkeep49</a>, who imposed a 0RR restriction on me for edit warring, why Nableezy isn’t receiving the same treatment despite having many similar, and continuing incidents. <a href="/wiki/User:ABHammad" title="User:ABHammad">ABHammad</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:ABHammad" title="User talk:ABHammad">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Golan_Heights#c-ABHammad-20240904073900-Nableezy-20240903162600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">07:39, 4 September 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-ABHammad-20240904073900-Nableezy-20240903162600"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240904073900","author":"ABHammad","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-ABHammad-20240904073900-Nableezy-20240903162600","replies":["c-Supreme_Deliciousness-20240904213700-ABHammad-20240904073900","c-Selfstudier-20240904093000-ABHammad-20240904073900","c-Makeandtoss-20240904102300-ABHammad-20240904073900","c-Nableezy-20240904110800-ABHammad-20240904073900","c-Doug_Weller-20240904150100-ABHammad-20240904073900","c-Barkeep49-20240904150400-ABHammad-20240904073900"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-ABHammad-20240904073900-Nableezy-20240903162600"></span> <dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Supreme_Deliciousness-20240904213700-ABHammad-20240904073900"></span>Please explain how the material repeatedly removed by PeleYoetz without any sensible reasoning is "extremely unneccesary and undue politicization." ? Why shouldn't the reader be informed that historical remains have been distorted and a large section of the sites history deliberately hidden from the public? Wouldn't you want the reader to be informed of this? --<a href="/wiki/User:Supreme_Deliciousness" title="User:Supreme Deliciousness">Supreme Deliciousness</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Supreme_Deliciousness" title="User talk:Supreme Deliciousness">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Golan_Heights#c-Supreme_Deliciousness-20240904213700-ABHammad-20240904073900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:37, 4 September 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Supreme_Deliciousness-20240904213700-ABHammad-20240904073900"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240904213700","author":"Supreme Deliciousness","type":"comment","level":5,"id":"c-Supreme_Deliciousness-20240904213700-ABHammad-20240904073900","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Supreme_Deliciousness-20240904213700-ABHammad-20240904073900"></span></dd></dl></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Selfstudier-20240904093000-ABHammad-20240904073900"></span>Afaics, the only "edit warring" (loosely) is by PeleYoetz who reverted twice in two days with invalid reasoning and declines to explain when asked. Unless we are now suggesting that every single revert, no matter by who and with whatever reason is now edit warring? What does <style data-mw-deduplicate="TemplateStyles:r1248585704">@media screen{html.skin-theme-clientpref-night .mw-parser-output .inline-quote-talk{color:#00B785}}@media screen and (prefers-color-scheme:dark){html.skin-theme-clientpref-os .mw-parser-output .inline-quote-talk{color:#00B785}}.mw-parser-output .inline-quote-talk{font-family:Georgia,"DejaVu Serif",serif;color:#008560;quotes:none}.mw-parser-output .inline-quote-talk-italic{font-family:inherit;font-style:italic}.mw-parser-output .inline-quote-talk-marks{quotes:"\"""\""}</style><q class="inline-quote-talk">extremely unneccesary and undue politicization</q> even mean? <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1248585704"><q class="inline-quote-talk">edit warring and bullying behavior</q>? If you believe that you have a valid complaint, do the necessary. <a href="/wiki/User:Selfstudier" title="User:Selfstudier">Selfstudier</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Selfstudier" title="User talk:Selfstudier">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Golan_Heights#c-Selfstudier-20240904093000-ABHammad-20240904073900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:30, 4 September 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Selfstudier-20240904093000-ABHammad-20240904073900"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240904093000","author":"Selfstudier","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Selfstudier-20240904093000-ABHammad-20240904073900","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Selfstudier-20240904093000-ABHammad-20240904073900"></span></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Makeandtoss-20240904102300-ABHammad-20240904073900"></span>First of all, these five tags seems to me to be to be a clear case of <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:CANVASSING" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:CANVASSING">WP:CANVASSING</a>: mass posting, biased and partisan; canvassing in PIA articles is very problematic. As for Katzrin, if RS have "politicized" it, then WP should reflect that. PeleYoetz has neither participated in the talk page, nor have they provided an edit summary explaining their concerns; so how are editors expected to deal with this kind of behavior? <a href="/wiki/User:Makeandtoss" title="User:Makeandtoss">Makeandtoss</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Makeandtoss" title="User talk:Makeandtoss">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Golan_Heights#c-Makeandtoss-20240904102300-ABHammad-20240904073900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:23, 4 September 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Makeandtoss-20240904102300-ABHammad-20240904073900"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240904102300","author":"Makeandtoss","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Makeandtoss-20240904102300-ABHammad-20240904073900","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Makeandtoss-20240904102300-ABHammad-20240904073900"></span></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Nableezy-20240904110800-ABHammad-20240904073900"></span>Except I did engage in discussion here, and the drive by edit warring without any discussion and pov pushing is coming from those who have not. A dispute isn’t something that happens cus some person on the internet doesn’t like what a source says. You need reasons besides I don’t like the source to remove material here, and none has been offered. This is not some game you get to take turns at, if somebody disputes something they need to show a basis for it on this talk page. Finally, never ping me again. <b><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Nableezy" title="User talk:Nableezy"><span style="color:#C11B17;font-size:90%">nableezy</span></a></b> - <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Golan_Heights#c-Nableezy-20240904110800-ABHammad-20240904073900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:08, 4 September 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Nableezy-20240904110800-ABHammad-20240904073900"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240904110800","author":"Nableezy","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Nableezy-20240904110800-ABHammad-20240904073900","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Nableezy-20240904110800-ABHammad-20240904073900"></span></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Doug_Weller-20240904150100-ABHammad-20240904073900"></span>Not just for edit warring, "There is a rough consensus that ABHammad has been engaging in battleground behavior and as an attempt to stop that without going to a full topic ban, is subjected to a 0 revert restriction. " <a class="external autonumber" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Enforcement&amp;oldid=1237858602#ABHammad">[1]</a> <a href="/wiki/User:Doug_Weller" title="User:Doug Weller"><span style="color:#070">Doug Weller</span></a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Doug_Weller" title="User talk:Doug Weller">talk</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Golan_Heights#c-Doug_Weller-20240904150100-ABHammad-20240904073900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:01, 4 September 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Doug_Weller-20240904150100-ABHammad-20240904073900"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240904150100","author":"Doug Weller","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Doug_Weller-20240904150100-ABHammad-20240904073900","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Doug_Weller-20240904150100-ABHammad-20240904073900"></span></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Barkeep49-20240904150400-ABHammad-20240904073900"></span>This isn't the place to discuss yours or others editing restrictions @<a href="/wiki/User:ABHammad" title="User:ABHammad">ABHammad</a>. Nableezy's conduct is certainly under consideration by the <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:ARCA" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:ARCA">arbitration committee</a>. <a href="/wiki/User:Barkeep49" title="User:Barkeep49">Barkeep49</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Barkeep49" title="User talk:Barkeep49">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Golan_Heights#c-Barkeep49-20240904150400-ABHammad-20240904073900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:04, 4 September 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Barkeep49-20240904150400-ABHammad-20240904073900"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240904150400","author":"Barkeep49","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Barkeep49-20240904150400-ABHammad-20240904073900","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Barkeep49-20240904150400-ABHammad-20240904073900"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Supreme_Deliciousness-20240903163800-Revert"></span>The information repeatedly removed here:<a class="external autonumber" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Golan_Heights&amp;diff=1243812404&amp;oldid=1243617957">[2]</a> is extremely important showing the real history of Kisrin and how its history has been distorted. This well sourced information must be included to show the reader an accurate picture of the site and what happened.--<a href="/wiki/User:Supreme_Deliciousness" title="User:Supreme Deliciousness">Supreme Deliciousness</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Supreme_Deliciousness" title="User talk:Supreme Deliciousness">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Golan_Heights#c-Supreme_Deliciousness-20240903163800-Revert" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:38, 3 September 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Supreme_Deliciousness-20240903163800-Revert"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240903163800","author":"Supreme Deliciousness","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Supreme_Deliciousness-20240903163800-Revert","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Supreme_Deliciousness-20240903163800-Revert"></span> </p><p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Sean.hoyland-20240904151000-Revert"></span>I have a suggestion. There is edit warring. In my view, edit warring in PIA should trigger use of the checkuser tool. This is consistent with policy, which says "<a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:CheckUser#Policy" title="Wikipedia:CheckUser">The CheckUser tool may be used only to prevent disruptive editing on the English Wikipedia or to investigate legitimate, credible concerns of bad-faith editing or sockpuppetry.</a>" Edit warring is disruptive editing. <a href="/wiki/User:Sean.hoyland" title="User:Sean.hoyland">Sean.hoyland</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Sean.hoyland" title="User talk:Sean.hoyland">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Golan_Heights#c-Sean.hoyland-20240904151000-Revert" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:10, 4 September 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Sean.hoyland-20240904151000-Revert"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240904151000","author":"Sean.hoyland","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Sean.hoyland-20240904151000-Revert","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Sean.hoyland-20240904151000-Revert"></span> </p><p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Sean.hoyland-20240904154600-Revert"></span>And let me just <a href="/wiki/Special:PermanentLink/1243717240#PeleYoetz" title="Special:PermanentLink/1243717240">leave this here</a> because things like this being ignored are funny every time for me. Can anyone persuade PeleYoetz to stay out of the conflict zone and stick to productive editing where they shine? <a href="/wiki/User:Sean.hoyland" title="User:Sean.hoyland">Sean.hoyland</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Sean.hoyland" title="User talk:Sean.hoyland">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Golan_Heights#c-Sean.hoyland-20240904154600-Revert" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:46, 4 September 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Sean.hoyland-20240904154600-Revert"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240904154600","author":"Sean.hoyland","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Sean.hoyland-20240904154600-Revert","replies":["c-Selfstudier-20240904155000-Sean.hoyland-20240904154600","c-PeleYoetz-20240908115800-Sean.hoyland-20240904154600"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Sean.hoyland-20240904154600-Revert"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Selfstudier-20240904155000-Sean.hoyland-20240904154600"></span>Cuisine is definitely less controversial :) A bit less, anyway.<a href="/wiki/User:Selfstudier" title="User:Selfstudier">Selfstudier</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Selfstudier" title="User talk:Selfstudier">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Golan_Heights#c-Selfstudier-20240904155000-Sean.hoyland-20240904154600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:50, 4 September 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Selfstudier-20240904155000-Sean.hoyland-20240904154600"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240904155000","author":"Selfstudier","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Selfstudier-20240904155000-Sean.hoyland-20240904154600","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Selfstudier-20240904155000-Sean.hoyland-20240904154600"></span></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-PeleYoetz-20240908115800-Sean.hoyland-20240904154600"></span>I don't understand why you talk to me like that, in such a humiliating way. There is a phrase in Hebrew that says 'כל דאלים גבר', a society where whoever is the most violent and who shouts the loudest, is the one who prevails over the other. Wikipedia should not be such a place. I hope you didn't mean the way you spoke either. <a href="/wiki/User:PeleYoetz" title="User:PeleYoetz">PeleYoetz</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:PeleYoetz" title="User talk:PeleYoetz">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Golan_Heights#c-PeleYoetz-20240908115800-Sean.hoyland-20240904154600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:58, 8 September 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-PeleYoetz-20240908115800-Sean.hoyland-20240904154600"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240908115800","author":"PeleYoetz","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-PeleYoetz-20240908115800-Sean.hoyland-20240904154600","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-PeleYoetz-20240908115800-Sean.hoyland-20240904154600"></span></dd></dl> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Nableezy-20240908123000-Revert"></span>There still has been no explanation as to why this material, well sourced and on topic, should be removed. Until one is offered I don’t see anything to discuss here. <b><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Nableezy" title="User talk:Nableezy"><span style="color:#C11B17;font-size:90%">nableezy</span></a></b> - <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Golan_Heights#c-Nableezy-20240908123000-Revert" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:30, 8 September 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Nableezy-20240908123000-Revert"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240908123000","author":"Nableezy","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Nableezy-20240908123000-Revert","replies":["c-PeleYoetz-20240916063700-Nableezy-20240908123000","c-Starship.paint-20240920115700-Nableezy-20240908123000"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Nableezy-20240908123000-Revert"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-PeleYoetz-20240916063700-Nableezy-20240908123000"></span>Why? This article is on the Golan Heights. We have a short chapter on the main landmarks, each with a short description of the landmark. Why the opinion of scholar X on the museum at one site is due here? I haven't seen opinions on sites in comparable regional articles. If we add this view, why don't we add more views? <a href="/wiki/User:PeleYoetz" title="User:PeleYoetz">PeleYoetz</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:PeleYoetz" title="User talk:PeleYoetz">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Golan_Heights#c-PeleYoetz-20240916063700-Nableezy-20240908123000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">06:37, 16 September 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-PeleYoetz-20240916063700-Nableezy-20240908123000"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240916063700","author":"PeleYoetz","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-PeleYoetz-20240916063700-Nableezy-20240908123000","replies":["c-Supreme_Deliciousness-20240916173500-PeleYoetz-20240916063700","c-Nableezy-20240916104700-PeleYoetz-20240916063700"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-PeleYoetz-20240916063700-Nableezy-20240908123000"></span> <dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Supreme_Deliciousness-20240916173500-PeleYoetz-20240916063700"></span>The information you removed is not an opinion. Its a description of the site. It informs the reader about the sites history. Why would it not be here? --<a href="/wiki/User:Supreme_Deliciousness" title="User:Supreme Deliciousness">Supreme Deliciousness</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Supreme_Deliciousness" title="User talk:Supreme Deliciousness">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Golan_Heights#c-Supreme_Deliciousness-20240916173500-PeleYoetz-20240916063700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:35, 16 September 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Supreme_Deliciousness-20240916173500-PeleYoetz-20240916063700"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240916173500","author":"Supreme Deliciousness","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Supreme_Deliciousness-20240916173500-PeleYoetz-20240916063700","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Supreme_Deliciousness-20240916173500-PeleYoetz-20240916063700"></span></dd></dl></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Nableezy-20240916104700-PeleYoetz-20240916063700"></span>We include all significant views, that’s what NPOV means. Is there some significant view about that topic missing? <b><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Nableezy" title="User talk:Nableezy"><span style="color:#C11B17;font-size:90%">nableezy</span></a></b> - <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Golan_Heights#c-Nableezy-20240916104700-PeleYoetz-20240916063700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:47, 16 September 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Nableezy-20240916104700-PeleYoetz-20240916063700"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240916104700","author":"Nableezy","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Nableezy-20240916104700-PeleYoetz-20240916063700","replies":["c-Galamore-20240916112100-Nableezy-20240916104700"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Nableezy-20240916104700-PeleYoetz-20240916063700"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Galamore-20240916112100-Nableezy-20240916104700"></span>What makes this a significant point of view? <a href="/wiki/User:Galamore" title="User:Galamore">Galamore</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Galamore" title="User talk:Galamore">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Golan_Heights#c-Galamore-20240916112100-Nableezy-20240916104700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:21, 16 September 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Galamore-20240916112100-Nableezy-20240916104700"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240916112100","author":"Galamore","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Galamore-20240916112100-Nableezy-20240916104700","replies":["c-Nableezy-20240916130900-Galamore-20240916112100"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Galamore-20240916112100-Nableezy-20240916104700"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Nableezy-20240916130900-Galamore-20240916112100"></span>The reliable sources that relay it. <b><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Nableezy" title="User talk:Nableezy"><span style="color:#C11B17;font-size:90%">nableezy</span></a></b> - <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Golan_Heights#c-Nableezy-20240916130900-Galamore-20240916112100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:09, 16 September 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Nableezy-20240916130900-Galamore-20240916112100"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240916130900","author":"Nableezy","type":"comment","level":5,"id":"c-Nableezy-20240916130900-Galamore-20240916112100","replies":["c-Alaexis-20240916211000-Nableezy-20240916130900"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Nableezy-20240916130900-Galamore-20240916112100"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Alaexis-20240916211000-Nableezy-20240916130900"></span>The question is what makes it worthy of inclusion in the article about the whole Golan Heights. I can see how it can be relevant in the article about Katzrin but for this article this is too much detail. <a href="/wiki/User:Alaexis" title="User:Alaexis">Alaexis</a><sub><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Alaexis" title="User talk:Alaexis">¿question?</a></sub> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Golan_Heights#c-Alaexis-20240916211000-Nableezy-20240916130900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:10, 16 September 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Alaexis-20240916211000-Nableezy-20240916130900"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240916211000","author":"Alaexis","type":"comment","level":6,"id":"c-Alaexis-20240916211000-Nableezy-20240916130900","replies":["c-Supreme_Deliciousness-20240917053100-Alaexis-20240916211000","c-Nableezy-20240917002800-Alaexis-20240916211000"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Alaexis-20240916211000-Nableezy-20240916130900"></span> <dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Supreme_Deliciousness-20240917053100-Alaexis-20240916211000"></span>It is relevant because it shows that archaeological sites have been distorted and used for propaganda. If the two sentences is removed then it would only say: "Katzrin Ancient Village is an archaeological site on the outskirts of Katzrin where the remains of a Talmud-era village and synagogue have been reconstructed."....now same as your question: what makes this sentence worthy of inclusion in the article about the whole Golan Heights? And why would a sentence like this be in the article when it is inaccurately describing the ancient site? --<a href="/wiki/User:Supreme_Deliciousness" title="User:Supreme Deliciousness">Supreme Deliciousness</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Supreme_Deliciousness" title="User talk:Supreme Deliciousness">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Golan_Heights#c-Supreme_Deliciousness-20240917053100-Alaexis-20240916211000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">05:31, 17 September 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Supreme_Deliciousness-20240917053100-Alaexis-20240916211000"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240917053100","author":"Supreme Deliciousness","type":"comment","level":8,"id":"c-Supreme_Deliciousness-20240917053100-Alaexis-20240916211000","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Supreme_Deliciousness-20240917053100-Alaexis-20240916211000"></span></dd></dl></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Nableezy-20240917002800-Alaexis-20240916211000"></span>If the material on the Katzrin Ancient Village was removed sure, but you cant just have one part of the story on that topic here. <b><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Nableezy" title="User talk:Nableezy"><span style="color:#C11B17;font-size:90%">nableezy</span></a></b> - <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Golan_Heights#c-Nableezy-20240917002800-Alaexis-20240916211000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:28, 17 September 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Nableezy-20240917002800-Alaexis-20240916211000"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240917002800","author":"Nableezy","type":"comment","level":7,"id":"c-Nableezy-20240917002800-Alaexis-20240916211000","replies":["c-PeleYoetz-20240918152800-Nableezy-20240917002800"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Nableezy-20240917002800-Alaexis-20240916211000"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-PeleYoetz-20240918152800-Nableezy-20240917002800"></span>So mention all periods of history in the site, why insist of opinions? We can simply say: the site was inhabited by X, Y, civilisations, during this and that periods. Otherwise this is a violation of NPOV. <a href="/wiki/User:PeleYoetz" title="User:PeleYoetz">PeleYoetz</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:PeleYoetz" title="User talk:PeleYoetz">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Golan_Heights#c-PeleYoetz-20240918152800-Nableezy-20240917002800" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:28, 18 September 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-PeleYoetz-20240918152800-Nableezy-20240917002800"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240918152800","author":"PeleYoetz","type":"comment","level":8,"id":"c-PeleYoetz-20240918152800-Nableezy-20240917002800","replies":["c-Supreme_Deliciousness-20240919073000-PeleYoetz-20240918152800","c-Nableezy-20240918155400-PeleYoetz-20240918152800"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-PeleYoetz-20240918152800-Nableezy-20240917002800"></span> <dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Supreme_Deliciousness-20240919073000-PeleYoetz-20240918152800"></span>You haven't explained how the text is an opinion and how it is a violation of npov. Where is the reliable source that contradicts the text? --<a href="/wiki/User:Supreme_Deliciousness" title="User:Supreme Deliciousness">Supreme Deliciousness</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Supreme_Deliciousness" title="User talk:Supreme Deliciousness">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Golan_Heights#c-Supreme_Deliciousness-20240919073000-PeleYoetz-20240918152800" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">07:30, 19 September 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Supreme_Deliciousness-20240919073000-PeleYoetz-20240918152800"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240919073000","author":"Supreme Deliciousness","type":"comment","level":10,"id":"c-Supreme_Deliciousness-20240919073000-PeleYoetz-20240918152800","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Supreme_Deliciousness-20240919073000-PeleYoetz-20240918152800"></span></dd></dl></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Nableezy-20240918155400-PeleYoetz-20240918152800"></span>The violation of NPOV is removing the well sourced views of noted experts. NPOV means the inclusion of all significant views, not the censoring of those some user claims is opinion. <b><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Nableezy" title="User talk:Nableezy"><span style="color:#C11B17;font-size:90%">nableezy</span></a></b> - <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Golan_Heights#c-Nableezy-20240918155400-PeleYoetz-20240918152800" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:54, 18 September 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Nableezy-20240918155400-PeleYoetz-20240918152800"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240918155400","author":"Nableezy","type":"comment","level":9,"id":"c-Nableezy-20240918155400-PeleYoetz-20240918152800","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Nableezy-20240918155400-PeleYoetz-20240918152800"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Starship.paint-20240920115700-Nableezy-20240908123000"></span>Well, according to the sources provided, if there is politicization of Katzrin, it seems to be happening in the real world, and we are simply reporting that. If Katzrin is the administrative and commercial center of the Golan Heights, this certainly seems noteworthy. <b><a href="/wiki/User:Starship.paint" title="User:Starship.paint"><span style="color:#512888">starship</span></a><a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Starship.paint" title="Special:Contributions/Starship.paint"><span style="color:#512888">.paint</span></a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Starship.paint" title="User talk:Starship.paint">RUN</a>)</b> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Golan_Heights#c-Starship.paint-20240920115700-Nableezy-20240908123000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:57, 20 September 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Starship.paint-20240920115700-Nableezy-20240908123000"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240920115700","author":"Starship.paint","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Starship.paint-20240920115700-Nableezy-20240908123000","replies":[],"displayName":"starship"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Starship.paint-20240920115700-Nableezy-20240908123000"></span></li></ul> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-Supreme_Deliciousness-20240903182700&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-Non_neutral_introduction_in_Six_Day_War_article-20240903182700&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-Supreme_Deliciousness-20240903182700-Non_neutral_introduction_in_Six_Day_War_article&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Non neutral introduction in Six Day War article&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;Non neutral introduction in Six Day War article&quot;}--><h2 id="Non_neutral_introduction_in_Six_Day_War_article" data-mw-thread-id="h-Non_neutral_introduction_in_Six_Day_War_article-20240903182700"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Non_neutral_introduction_in_Six_Day_War_article-20240903182700"></span>Non neutral introduction in Six Day War article<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Non_neutral_introduction_in_Six_Day_War_article-20240903182700"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Talk:Golan_Heights&amp;action=edit&amp;section=2" title="Edit section: Non neutral introduction in Six Day War article"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Supreme_Deliciousness-20240903182700","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Non_neutral_introduction_in_Six_Day_War_article-20240903182700","replies":["c-Supreme_Deliciousness-20240903182700-Non_neutral_introduction_in_Six_Day_War_article"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-Supreme_Deliciousness-20241001062000-Alaexis-20240919215600","timestamp":"20241001062000"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__5__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__2__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-Supreme_Deliciousness-20240903182700&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-Non_neutral_introduction_in_Six_Day_War_article-20240903182700&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-Supreme_Deliciousness-20240903182700-Non_neutral_introduction_in_Six_Day_War_article&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Non neutral introduction in Six Day War article&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;Non neutral introduction in Six Day War article&quot;}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Supreme_Deliciousness-20240903182700-Non_neutral_introduction_in_Six_Day_War_article"></span>In this edit here:<a class="external autonumber" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Golan_Heights&amp;diff=1243578156&amp;oldid=1243369960">[3]</a> user <span class="template-ping">@<a href="/wiki/User:PeleYoetz" title="User:PeleYoetz">PeleYoetz</a>:</span> re ads: "After the Six-Day War broke out in June 1967, <b>Syria's shelling greatly intensified </b>and the <a href="/wiki/Israel_Defense_Forces" title="Israel Defense Forces">Israeli army</a> captured the Golan Heights on <a href="/wiki/Six-Day_War#Golan_Heights" title="Six-Day War">9–10 June</a>." </p><p>This is not accurate history and the situation is not presented in a neutral way. Leading up to the six day war, Israel repeatedly violated the DMZ which provoked Syria into firing at Israel. This has been confirmed by Moshe Dayan: <a rel="nofollow" class="external autonumber" href="https://www.nytimes.com/1997/05/11/world/general-s-words-shed-a-new-light-on-the-golan.html?pagewanted=1">[4]</a> And also other sources that I added into the article now. </p><p>It is a clear npov violation to start the Six day war section with this selectively picked sentence. <a href="/wiki/User:Supreme_Deliciousness" title="User:Supreme Deliciousness">Supreme Deliciousness</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Supreme_Deliciousness" title="User talk:Supreme Deliciousness">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Golan_Heights#c-Supreme_Deliciousness-20240903182700-Non_neutral_introduction_in_Six_Day_War_article" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:27, 3 September 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Supreme_Deliciousness-20240903182700-Non_neutral_introduction_in_Six_Day_War_article"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240903182700","author":"Supreme Deliciousness","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Supreme_Deliciousness-20240903182700-Non_neutral_introduction_in_Six_Day_War_article","replies":["c-Alaexis-20240916211500-Supreme_Deliciousness-20240903182700"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Supreme_Deliciousness-20240903182700-Non_neutral_introduction_in_Six_Day_War_article"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Alaexis-20240916211500-Supreme_Deliciousness-20240903182700"></span>The article makes it clear that the significance of his claims is disputed (<link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1248585704"><q class="inline-quote-talk">Historians have already begun to debate whether General Dayan was giving an accurate account of the situation in 1967 or whether his version of what happened was colored by his disgrace after the 1973 Middle East war, when he was forced to resign as Defense Minister over the failure to anticipate the Arab attack.</q>) <a href="/wiki/User:Alaexis" title="User:Alaexis">Alaexis</a><sub><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Alaexis" title="User talk:Alaexis">¿question?</a></sub> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Golan_Heights#c-Alaexis-20240916211500-Supreme_Deliciousness-20240903182700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:15, 16 September 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Alaexis-20240916211500-Supreme_Deliciousness-20240903182700"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240916211500","author":"Alaexis","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Alaexis-20240916211500-Supreme_Deliciousness-20240903182700","replies":["c-Supreme_Deliciousness-20240919074600-Alaexis-20240916211500"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Alaexis-20240916211500-Supreme_Deliciousness-20240903182700"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Supreme_Deliciousness-20240919074600-Alaexis-20240916211500"></span>Disputed by two Israeli historians, but as I said in my initial post, there are other sources as well. "Former Dutch UN observer, Colonel (ret.) Jan Mühren, said last Monday on the Dutch current affairs program Nova that in the run up to the the Six-Day War Israel provoked most border incidents as part of its strategy to annex more land. Jan Mühren, who was stationed interchangeably at the Golan Heights and the West Bank in 1966 and 1967, says Israel was not under siege by Arab countries. Mühren said neither Jordan nor Syria had any intention to start a war with Israel." <a rel="nofollow" class="external autonumber" href="http://www.deepjournal.com/p/7/a/en/729.html">[5]</a> The interview can be seen here, at the beginning: <a rel="nofollow" class="external autonumber" href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mgZQpHsfWNw">[6]</a> after he hears the Israeli claim, he responds: <b>"Frankly I believe this is a case of falsification of history. Last century's largest chapter of falsification of history. - An absolute lie!"</b> --<a href="/wiki/User:Supreme_Deliciousness" title="User:Supreme Deliciousness">Supreme Deliciousness</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Supreme_Deliciousness" title="User talk:Supreme Deliciousness">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Golan_Heights#c-Supreme_Deliciousness-20240919074600-Alaexis-20240916211500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">07:46, 19 September 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Supreme_Deliciousness-20240919074600-Alaexis-20240916211500"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240919074600","author":"Supreme Deliciousness","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Supreme_Deliciousness-20240919074600-Alaexis-20240916211500","replies":["c-Alaexis-20240919215600-Supreme_Deliciousness-20240919074600"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Supreme_Deliciousness-20240919074600-Alaexis-20240916211500"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Alaexis-20240919215600-Supreme_Deliciousness-20240919074600"></span>I think that we're mixing a few things here. First of all, I don't think anyone disputes the facts in the sentence in question (the war broke out, the Syrians shelled Israeli positions, the Israelis conquered the Golan heights). The events preceding the war that have to do something with the Golan Heights should also be mentioned in the article. Both Israeli "provocations" (judging by <a href="/wiki/Origins_of_the_Six-Day_War#Israel_and_Syria" title="Origins of the Six-Day War">Origins_of_the_Six-Day_War#Israel_and_Syria</a> it was mainly sending tractors to plow the DMZ) and the Syrian shelling of Israeli settlements should be mentioned. As to the interpretations, they should be in the main article about the war and its origins and definitely not here. <a href="/wiki/User:Alaexis" title="User:Alaexis">Alaexis</a><sub><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Alaexis" title="User talk:Alaexis">¿question?</a></sub> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Golan_Heights#c-Alaexis-20240919215600-Supreme_Deliciousness-20240919074600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:56, 19 September 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Alaexis-20240919215600-Supreme_Deliciousness-20240919074600"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240919215600","author":"Alaexis","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Alaexis-20240919215600-Supreme_Deliciousness-20240919074600","replies":["c-Supreme_Deliciousness-20241001062000-Alaexis-20240919215600"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Alaexis-20240919215600-Supreme_Deliciousness-20240919074600"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Supreme_Deliciousness-20241001062000-Alaexis-20240919215600"></span>Several sources show that the Israeli claims are inaccurate, so if the Israeli alleged pov are included, the other side must be included aswell.--<a href="/wiki/User:Supreme_Deliciousness" title="User:Supreme Deliciousness">Supreme Deliciousness</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Supreme_Deliciousness" title="User talk:Supreme Deliciousness">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Golan_Heights#c-Supreme_Deliciousness-20241001062000-Alaexis-20240919215600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">06:20, 1 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Supreme_Deliciousness-20241001062000-Alaexis-20240919215600"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241001062000","author":"Supreme Deliciousness","type":"comment","level":5,"id":"c-Supreme_Deliciousness-20241001062000-Alaexis-20240919215600","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Supreme_Deliciousness-20241001062000-Alaexis-20240919215600"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-Iljhgtn-20241024162200&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-Order_of_language_translations-20241024162200&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-Iljhgtn-20241024162200-Order_of_language_translations&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Order of language translations&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;Order of language translations&quot;}--><h2 id="Order_of_language_translations" data-mw-thread-id="h-Order_of_language_translations-20241024162200"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Order_of_language_translations-20241024162200"></span>Order of language translations<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Order_of_language_translations-20241024162200"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Talk:Golan_Heights&amp;action=edit&amp;section=3" title="Edit section: Order of language translations"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Iljhgtn-20241024162200","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Order_of_language_translations-20241024162200","replies":["c-Iljhgtn-20241024162200-Order_of_language_translations"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-Nableezy-20241024202100-Iljhgtn-20241024192500","timestamp":"20241024202100"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__7__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__3__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-Iljhgtn-20241024162200&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-Order_of_language_translations-20241024162200&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-Iljhgtn-20241024162200-Order_of_language_translations&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Order of language translations&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;Order of language translations&quot;}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Iljhgtn-20241024162200-Order_of_language_translations"></span>There is a hebrew and arabic language translation. After a review of most Israeli pages, and in line with common sense as the first legal language of Israel, I propose simply re-ordering the languages to place hebrew on the left and arabic on the right for this article. I made this change originally believing it to be non-controversial, but another editor reverted the edit and asked that I get consensus first before making that change again. <a href="/wiki/User:Iljhgtn" title="User:Iljhgtn">Iljhgtn</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Iljhgtn" title="User talk:Iljhgtn">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Golan_Heights#c-Iljhgtn-20241024162200-Order_of_language_translations" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:22, 24 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Iljhgtn-20241024162200-Order_of_language_translations"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241024162200","author":"Iljhgtn","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Iljhgtn-20241024162200-Order_of_language_translations","replies":["c-JJNito197-20241024190300-Iljhgtn-20241024162200","c-Nableezy-20241024191800-Iljhgtn-20241024162200"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Iljhgtn-20241024162200-Order_of_language_translations"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-JJNito197-20241024190300-Iljhgtn-20241024162200"></span>You need consensus to change the ERA style, per <a href="/wiki/MOS:ERA" class="mw-redirect" title="MOS:ERA">MOS:ERA</a>. Please discuss on talk page before changing it. <a href="/wiki/User:JJNito197" title="User:JJNito197">JJNito197</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:JJNito197" title="User talk:JJNito197">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Golan_Heights#c-JJNito197-20241024190300-Iljhgtn-20241024162200" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:03, 24 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-JJNito197-20241024190300-Iljhgtn-20241024162200"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241024190300","author":"JJNito197","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-JJNito197-20241024190300-Iljhgtn-20241024162200","replies":["c-Iljhgtn-20241024191000-JJNito197-20241024190300"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-JJNito197-20241024190300-Iljhgtn-20241024162200"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Iljhgtn-20241024191000-JJNito197-20241024190300"></span>Please move your comment to the new "MOS:ERA" thread I started below. You commented on something unrelated and separate from the date style. <a href="/wiki/User:Iljhgtn" title="User:Iljhgtn">Iljhgtn</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Iljhgtn" title="User talk:Iljhgtn">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Golan_Heights#c-Iljhgtn-20241024191000-JJNito197-20241024190300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:10, 24 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Iljhgtn-20241024191000-JJNito197-20241024190300"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241024191000","author":"Iljhgtn","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Iljhgtn-20241024191000-JJNito197-20241024190300","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Iljhgtn-20241024191000-JJNito197-20241024190300"></span></dd></dl></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Nableezy-20241024191800-Iljhgtn-20241024162200"></span>We have a consensus on this article to have the Arabic name first. This isnt an "Israeli page" except that it covers territory occupied by Israel. <b><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Nableezy" title="User talk:Nableezy"><span style="color:#C11B17;font-size:90%">nableezy</span></a></b> - <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Golan_Heights#c-Nableezy-20241024191800-Iljhgtn-20241024162200" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:18, 24 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Nableezy-20241024191800-Iljhgtn-20241024162200"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241024191800","author":"Nableezy","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Nableezy-20241024191800-Iljhgtn-20241024162200","replies":["c-Iljhgtn-20241024192500-Nableezy-20241024191800"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Nableezy-20241024191800-Iljhgtn-20241024162200"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Iljhgtn-20241024192500-Nableezy-20241024191800"></span>When was that consensus formed? Would you mind showing me the diff of the discussion that occurred? <a href="/wiki/User:Iljhgtn" title="User:Iljhgtn">Iljhgtn</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Iljhgtn" title="User talk:Iljhgtn">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Golan_Heights#c-Iljhgtn-20241024192500-Nableezy-20241024191800" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:25, 24 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Iljhgtn-20241024192500-Nableezy-20241024191800"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241024192500","author":"Iljhgtn","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Iljhgtn-20241024192500-Nableezy-20241024191800","replies":["c-JJNito197-20241024195300-Iljhgtn-20241024192500","c-Nableezy-20241024202100-Iljhgtn-20241024192500"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Iljhgtn-20241024192500-Nableezy-20241024191800"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-JJNito197-20241024195300-Iljhgtn-20241024192500"></span>Per <a href="/wiki/MOS:FORLANG" class="mw-redirect" title="MOS:FORLANG">MOS:FORLANG</a> the language most associated with the subject will come first, then after the second language. Thus this being occupied territory according to international recognition Arabic will come first. <a href="/wiki/User:JJNito197" title="User:JJNito197">JJNito197</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:JJNito197" title="User talk:JJNito197">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Golan_Heights#c-JJNito197-20241024195300-Iljhgtn-20241024192500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:53, 24 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-JJNito197-20241024195300-Iljhgtn-20241024192500"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241024195300","author":"JJNito197","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-JJNito197-20241024195300-Iljhgtn-20241024192500","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-JJNito197-20241024195300-Iljhgtn-20241024192500"></span></dd> <dd><a href="/wiki/Talk:Golan_Heights/Archive_4#Arabic_text_before_Hebrew" title="Talk:Golan Heights/Archive 4"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Nableezy-20241024202100-Iljhgtn-20241024192500"></span>Talk:Golan_Heights/Archive_4#Arabic_text_before_Hebrew</a>, <a href="/wiki/Talk:Golan_Heights/Archive_15#order_of_languages" title="Talk:Golan Heights/Archive 15">Talk:Golan_Heights/Archive_15#order_of_languages</a>. It has also been stable this way for over a decade. <b><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Nableezy" title="User talk:Nableezy"><span style="color:#C11B17;font-size:90%">nableezy</span></a></b> - <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Golan_Heights#c-Nableezy-20241024202100-Iljhgtn-20241024192500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:21, 24 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Nableezy-20241024202100-Iljhgtn-20241024192500"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241024202100","author":"Nableezy","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Nableezy-20241024202100-Iljhgtn-20241024192500","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Nableezy-20241024202100-Iljhgtn-20241024192500"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-Iljhgtn-20241024191000&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-MOS:ERA-20241024191000&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-Iljhgtn-20241024191000-MOS:ERA&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;MOS:ERA&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;MOS:ERA&quot;}--><h2 id="MOS:ERA" data-mw-thread-id="h-MOS:ERA-20241024191000"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-MOS:ERA-20241024191000"></span>MOS:ERA<span data-mw-comment-end="h-MOS:ERA-20241024191000"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Talk:Golan_Heights&amp;action=edit&amp;section=4" title="Edit section: MOS:ERA"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Iljhgtn-20241024191000","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-MOS:ERA-20241024191000","replies":["c-Iljhgtn-20241024191000-MOS:ERA"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-JJNito197-20241024192700-Iljhgtn-20241024192600","timestamp":"20241024192700"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__5__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__3__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-Iljhgtn-20241024191000&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-MOS:ERA-20241024191000&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-Iljhgtn-20241024191000-MOS:ERA&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;MOS:ERA&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;MOS:ERA&quot;}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Iljhgtn-20241024191000-MOS:ERA"></span>There was a tag at the top of the page that page that called for there to be a single ERA date style chosen. Currently the article has two styles. AD as well as CE/BCE. I went and clarified and changed it to a single style, since MOS requires that we use only one across a single article, but I was reverted. Please lets pick one and go with it, I would "vote" for CE/BCE since the page is an Israeli page and that is a standard used in Israel and among the Jewish people. <a href="/wiki/User:Iljhgtn" title="User:Iljhgtn">Iljhgtn</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Iljhgtn" title="User talk:Iljhgtn">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Golan_Heights#c-Iljhgtn-20241024191000-MOS:ERA" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:10, 24 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Iljhgtn-20241024191000-MOS:ERA"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241024191000","author":"Iljhgtn","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Iljhgtn-20241024191000-MOS:ERA","replies":["c-Nableezy-20241024191800-Iljhgtn-20241024191000","c-JJNito197-20241024192200-Iljhgtn-20241024191000"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Iljhgtn-20241024191000-MOS:ERA"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Nableezy-20241024191800-Iljhgtn-20241024191000"></span>Again, this is not an Israeli page whatever that means. That said I dont really care what date convention is used. <b><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Nableezy" title="User talk:Nableezy"><span style="color:#C11B17;font-size:90%">nableezy</span></a></b> - <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Golan_Heights#c-Nableezy-20241024191800-Iljhgtn-20241024191000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:18, 24 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Nableezy-20241024191800-Iljhgtn-20241024191000"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241024191800","author":"Nableezy","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Nableezy-20241024191800-Iljhgtn-20241024191000","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Nableezy-20241024191800-Iljhgtn-20241024191000"></span></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-JJNito197-20241024192200-Iljhgtn-20241024191000"></span>Firstly, the page is not an Israeli page nor is it in Hebrew. Secondly, this is not a standard used by Jewish people. I know many Jews who dont use BCE or CE in the United Kingdom. Thirdly, you made a spurious change regarding the image of Melkite church in Ein Qiniyye which removed it from the article. Lastly, this compounded with your desire for controversial change to the lead language (the Golan is internationally recognised as being occupied), and your comments above, is telling me that I need to remind you to approach the subject in a NPOV manner. Thanks <a href="/wiki/User:JJNito197" title="User:JJNito197">JJNito197</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:JJNito197" title="User talk:JJNito197">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Golan_Heights#c-JJNito197-20241024192200-Iljhgtn-20241024191000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:22, 24 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-JJNito197-20241024192200-Iljhgtn-20241024191000"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241024192200","author":"JJNito197","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-JJNito197-20241024192200-Iljhgtn-20241024191000","replies":["c-Iljhgtn-20241024192600-JJNito197-20241024192200"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-JJNito197-20241024192200-Iljhgtn-20241024191000"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Iljhgtn-20241024192600-JJNito197-20241024192200"></span>There was a typo in the church image caption. I need to go back and see if that is still there, but it spelled "christian" incorrectly. <a href="/wiki/User:Iljhgtn" title="User:Iljhgtn">Iljhgtn</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Iljhgtn" title="User talk:Iljhgtn">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Golan_Heights#c-Iljhgtn-20241024192600-JJNito197-20241024192200" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:26, 24 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Iljhgtn-20241024192600-JJNito197-20241024192200"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241024192600","author":"Iljhgtn","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Iljhgtn-20241024192600-JJNito197-20241024192200","replies":["c-JJNito197-20241024192700-Iljhgtn-20241024192600"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Iljhgtn-20241024192600-JJNito197-20241024192200"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-JJNito197-20241024192700-Iljhgtn-20241024192600"></span>Forgive me, you corrected the spelling mistake. 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