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If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Apple_Inc." title="Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Apple Inc.">the discussion</a> and see a list of open tasks.<span class="metadata wpb-metadata"><span class="wpb-project">Apple Inc.</span><span class="wpb-project_link">Wikipedia:WikiProject Apple Inc.</span><span class="wpb-banner_name">Template:WikiProject Apple Inc.</span><span class="wpb-assessment_cat">Apple Inc. articles</span></span></td><td class="mbox-empty-cell"></td></tr><tr><td class="assess import-high"><a href="/wiki/Category:High-importance_Apple_Inc._articles" title="Category:High-importance Apple Inc. articles">High</a></td><td class="mbox-text" colspan="2">This article has been rated as <b>High-importance</b> on the <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Apple_Inc./Assessment#Importance_scale" title="Wikipedia:WikiProject Apple Inc./Assessment">project's importance scale</a>.</td></tr></tbody></table></td></tr></tbody></table></td></tr></tbody></table> <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1237879475"><table id="refideas-anchor" class="tmbox tmbox-notice" role="presentation"><tbody><tr><td class="mbox-image"><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Nuvola_apps_package_editors.png" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/bd/Nuvola_apps_package_editors.png/50px-Nuvola_apps_package_editors.png" decoding="async" width="50" height="50" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/bd/Nuvola_apps_package_editors.png/75px-Nuvola_apps_package_editors.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/bd/Nuvola_apps_package_editors.png/100px-Nuvola_apps_package_editors.png 2x" data-file-width="128" data-file-height="128"/></a></span></td><td class="mbox-text">The following references may be useful when improving this article in the future:<br/> <ul><li>Detailed review of OS X Lion Server: <a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="https://www.anandtech.com/show/4547/mac-os-x-lion-server-review/">https://www.anandtech.com/show/4547/mac-os-x-lion-server-review/</a></li> <li>All Ars articles about Mac OS X Server: <a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="https://arstechnica.com/tag/mac-os-x-server/">https://arstechnica.com/tag/mac-os-x-server/</a><br/></li></ul></td></tr></tbody></table> <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1237879475"><table class="box-merged-from plainlinks tmbox tmbox-notice" role="presentation"><tbody><tr><td class="mbox-image"><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/0f/Mergefrom.svg/50px-Mergefrom.svg.png" decoding="async" width="50" height="20" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/0f/Mergefrom.svg/75px-Mergefrom.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/0f/Mergefrom.svg/100px-Mergefrom.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="50" data-file-height="20"/></span></span></td><td class="mbox-text">The contents of the <b><a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Calendar_and_Contacts_Server&redirect=no">Calendar and Contacts Server</a></b> page were <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Merging" title="Wikipedia:Merging">merged</a> into <a href="/wiki/Mac_OS_X_Server" title="Mac OS X Server">Mac OS X Server</a> on February 5, 2023. For the contribution history and old versions of the redirected page, please see <span class="plainlinks"><a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Calendar_and_Contacts_Server&action=history&date-range-to=2023-02-05">its history</a></span>; for the discussion at that location, see <a href="/wiki/Talk:Calendar_and_Contacts_Server" title="Talk:Calendar and Contacts Server">its talk page</a>.</td></tr></tbody></table> <meta property="mw:PageProp/toc"/> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Split" data-mw-thread-id="h-Split"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Split"></span>Split<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Split"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Talk:Mac_OS_X_Server&action=edit&section=1" title="Edit section: Split"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span></div> <p>If no one cares, I'm going to split up each version of Mac OS X Server into each different parts. </p><p>Though I don't have server systems to test, nor the software. Anyone know of the major, and minor differences between the software? </p><p>The "Open Directory" link is re-directed to "Open Directory Project". </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Flaws_and_errors" data-mw-thread-id="h-Flaws_and_errors-2006-01-17T22:05:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Flaws_and_errors-2006-01-17T22:05:00.000Z"></span>Flaws and errors<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Flaws_and_errors-2006-01-17T22:05:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Talk:Mac_OS_X_Server&action=edit&section=2" title="Edit section: Flaws and errors"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/67.188.42.104" title="Special:Contributions/67.188.42.104"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-67.188.42.104-2009-06-15T21:29:00.000Z-Flaws_and_errors"></span>Contributions/67.188.42.104</a> (<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:67.188.42.104&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:67.188.42.104 (page does not exist)">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Mac_OS_X_Server#c-67.188.42.104-2009-06-15T21:29:00.000Z-Flaws_and_errors" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:29, 15 June 2009 (UTC)</a> The section on Server 10.2 was overwritten with information about Server 10.3.<span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-67.188.42.104-2009-06-15T21:29:00.000Z-Flaws_and_errors"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-67.188.42.104-2009-06-15T21:29:00.000Z-Flaws_and_errors"></span> </p><p><br/><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-JohnDBuell-2006-01-17T22:05:00.000Z-Flaws_and_errors"></span> The following were pointed out as problems in this article earlier today (these aren't written by me, I might add): </p><p>" Prior to Mac OS X, Apple's AppleShare services provided server applications such as file and printer sharing and user management." </p><p>Incorrect. AppleShare was a product name. So correctly, it would be "Apple's AppleShare, and later AppleShareIP products..." </p><p>" An exception, however, are User services, which are based on the NetInfo feature of OPENSTEP." </p><p>...which *were* based primarily on the NetInfo directory service, another NeXT creation." </p><p>" User and file management are provided via Open Directory, an LDAP compatible server architecture." </p><p>Incorrect. Open Directory is an API and frameworks that creates an architecture via which various directory and directory - like services can plug into the OS. By itself, Open Directory doesn't do anything. </p><p>" Many common network services are provided such as NTP, SNMP, Web Server, Mail Server, LDAP, AppleTalk, Print Server." </p><p>No, it doesn't provide AppleTALK services, it provides AFP services. There is a rather large difference. </p><p>--<a href="/wiki/User:JohnDBuell" title="User:JohnDBuell">JohnDBuell</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Mac_OS_X_Server#c-JohnDBuell-2006-01-17T22:05:00.000Z-Flaws_and_errors" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:05, 17 January 2006 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-JohnDBuell-2006-01-17T22:05:00.000Z-Flaws_and_errors"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-JohnDBuell-2006-01-17T22:05:00.000Z-Flaws_and_errors"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Flimsyq-2006-03-05T02:11:00.000Z-JohnDBuell-2006-01-17T22:05:00.000Z"></span>I can verify all the points made by JohnDBuell above are spot on. Although i think Open Directory could be losely described as a "server architecture". The article does feel a little bare... there is much more info to be included here. <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Flimsyq&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Flimsyq (page does not exist)">Flimsyq</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Mac_OS_X_Server#c-Flimsyq-2006-03-05T02:11:00.000Z-JohnDBuell-2006-01-17T22:05:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">02:11, 5 March 2006 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Flimsyq-2006-03-05T02:11:00.000Z-JohnDBuell-2006-01-17T22:05:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Flimsyq-2006-03-05T02:11:00.000Z-JohnDBuell-2006-01-17T22:05:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="What_hardware_required?" data-mw-thread-id="h-What_hardware_required?-2008-02-11T10:09:00.000Z"><span id="What_hardware_required.3F"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-What_hardware_required?-2008-02-11T10:09:00.000Z"></span>What hardware required?<span data-mw-comment-end="h-What_hardware_required?-2008-02-11T10:09:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Talk:Mac_OS_X_Server&action=edit&section=3" title="Edit section: What hardware required?"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-210.9.142.96-2008-02-11T10:09:00.000Z-What_hardware_required?"></span>Can you run it on an Intel Mac mini? On an iMac? How much processing power / ram / disk size & speed are needed to serve typical workgroups of various sizes? </p> <dl><dd>Yes. The current requirements are on this page in the sidebar: <a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="http://www.apple.com/server/macosx/specs.html">http://www.apple.com/server/macosx/specs.html</a></dd> <dd>I think the system requirements should probably be included in the article. <small>—Preceding <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Signatures" title="Wikipedia:Signatures">unsigned</a> comment added by <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/210.9.142.96" title="Special:Contributions/210.9.142.96">210.9.142.96</a> (<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:210.9.142.96&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:210.9.142.96 (page does not exist)">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Mac_OS_X_Server#c-210.9.142.96-2008-02-11T10:09:00.000Z-What_hardware_required?" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:09, 11 February 2008 (UTC)</a><span data-mw-comment-end="c-210.9.142.96-2008-02-11T10:09:00.000Z-What_hardware_required?"></span></small><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-210.9.142.96-2008-02-11T10:09:00.000Z-What_hardware_required?"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id=""Server_Tools"_section" data-mw-thread-id="h-"Server_Tools"_section-2007-08-26T15:33:00.000Z"><span id=".22Server_Tools.22_section"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-"Server_Tools"_section-2007-08-26T15:33:00.000Z"></span>"Server Tools" section<span data-mw-comment-end="h-"Server_Tools"_section-2007-08-26T15:33:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Talk:Mac_OS_X_Server&action=edit&section=4" title="Edit section: "Server Tools" section"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><i><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Thumperward-2007-08-26T15:33:00.000Z-"Server_Tools"_section"></span>Every one of these</i> is a substub. I reckon we should merge the whole lot in here. <a href="/wiki/User:Thumperward" title="User:Thumperward">Chris Cunningham</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Mac_OS_X_Server#c-Thumperward-2007-08-26T15:33:00.000Z-"Server_Tools"_section" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:33, 26 August 2007 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Thumperward-2007-08-26T15:33:00.000Z-"Server_Tools"_section"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Thumperward-2007-08-26T15:33:00.000Z-"Server_Tools"_section"></span> </p><p><br/> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Point_of_View" data-mw-thread-id="h-Point_of_View-2008-02-18T01:57:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Point_of_View-2008-02-18T01:57:00.000Z"></span>Point of View<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Point_of_View-2008-02-18T01:57:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Talk:Mac_OS_X_Server&action=edit&section=5" title="Edit section: Point of View"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Kd4ttc-2008-02-18T01:57:00.000Z-Point_of_View"></span>Can someone cite sources coming from a site that is not owned by Apple Inc.?<small>—Preceding <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Signatures" title="Wikipedia:Signatures">unsigned</a> comment added by <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Wiknerd&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Wiknerd (page does not exist)">Wiknerd</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Wiknerd" title="User talk:Wiknerd">talk</a> • <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Wiknerd" title="Special:Contributions/Wiknerd">contribs</a>) 22:48, 21 December 2007</small> </p> <ul><li>Server is a mac only product. If you wish to add perspectives from non-apple sources go ahead. However, this does make the article unneutral. What POV do you have a problem with in the article? Unless a specified POV is identified that merits a POV tag the POV tag is not appropriate. <a href="/wiki/User:Kd4ttc" title="User:Kd4ttc">Kd4ttc</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Kd4ttc" title="User talk:Kd4ttc">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Mac_OS_X_Server#c-Kd4ttc-2008-02-18T01:57:00.000Z-Point_of_View" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">01:57, 18 February 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Kd4ttc-2008-02-18T01:57:00.000Z-Point_of_View"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Kd4ttc-2008-02-18T01:57:00.000Z-Point_of_View"></span></li></ul> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Add_more_information_on_Leopard_Server" data-mw-thread-id="h-Add_more_information_on_Leopard_Server-2008-01-24T17:28:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Add_more_information_on_Leopard_Server-2008-01-24T17:28:00.000Z"></span>Add more information on Leopard Server<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Add_more_information_on_Leopard_Server-2008-01-24T17:28:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Talk:Mac_OS_X_Server&action=edit&section=6" title="Edit section: Add more information on Leopard Server"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Ggamette-2008-01-24T17:28:00.000Z-Add_more_information_on_Leopard_Server"></span>Leopard server, 10.5, has three new install modes: Standard, Workgroup, Advanced. I'm going to add more information about these different install modes. I'll try to link to relevant sources discussing the new modes in greater detail. <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Ggamette&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Ggamette (page does not exist)">Ggamette</a> (<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Ggamette&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:Ggamette (page does not exist)">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Mac_OS_X_Server#c-Ggamette-2008-01-24T17:28:00.000Z-Add_more_information_on_Leopard_Server" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:28, 24 January 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Ggamette-2008-01-24T17:28:00.000Z-Add_more_information_on_Leopard_Server"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Ggamette-2008-01-24T17:28:00.000Z-Add_more_information_on_Leopard_Server"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Snow_Leopard" data-mw-thread-id="h-Snow_Leopard-2008-06-10T13:05:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Snow_Leopard-2008-06-10T13:05:00.000Z"></span>Snow Leopard<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Snow_Leopard-2008-06-10T13:05:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Talk:Mac_OS_X_Server&action=edit&section=7" title="Edit section: Snow Leopard"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-129.67.132.203-2008-06-10T13:05:00.000Z-Snow_Leopard"></span>I've added mention of 10.6 to the list of versions. I think it could do with its own section like the others. Apple has details at <a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="http://www.apple.com/server/macosx/snowleopard/">http://www.apple.com/server/macosx/snowleopard/</a> - Anyone feel like wikifying some of that info? <small>—Preceding <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Signatures" title="Wikipedia:Signatures">unsigned</a> comment added by <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/129.67.132.203" title="Special:Contributions/129.67.132.203">129.67.132.203</a> (<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:129.67.132.203&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:129.67.132.203 (page does not exist)">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Mac_OS_X_Server#c-129.67.132.203-2008-06-10T13:05:00.000Z-Snow_Leopard" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:05, 10 June 2008 (UTC)</a></small><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-129.67.132.203-2008-06-10T13:05:00.000Z-Snow_Leopard"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-129.67.132.203-2008-06-10T13:05:00.000Z-Snow_Leopard"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Image_copyright_problem_with_Image:OSXLeopard.png" data-mw-thread-id="h-Image_copyright_problem_with_Image:OSXLeopard.png-2008-09-23T08:46:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Image_copyright_problem_with_Image:OSXLeopard.png-2008-09-23T08:46:00.000Z"></span>Image copyright problem with Image:OSXLeopard.png<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Image_copyright_problem_with_Image:OSXLeopard.png-2008-09-23T08:46:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Talk:Mac_OS_X_Server&action=edit&section=8" title="Edit section: Image copyright problem with Image:OSXLeopard.png"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-FairuseBot-2008-09-23T08:46:00.000Z-Image_copyright_problem_with_Image:OSXLeopard.png"></span>The image <a href="/w/index.php?title=File:OSXLeopard.png&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="File:OSXLeopard.png (page does not exist)">Image:OSXLeopard.png</a> is used in this article under a claim of <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:NFC" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:NFC">fair use</a>, but it does not have an adequate explanation for why it meets the <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:NFCC" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:NFCC">requirements for such images</a> when used here. In particular, for each page the image is used on, it must have an <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Non-free_use_rationale_guideline" title="Wikipedia:Non-free use rationale guideline">explanation</a> linking to that page which explains why it needs to be used on that page. Please check </p> <dl><dd><ul><li>That there is a <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Non-free_use_rationale_guideline" title="Wikipedia:Non-free use rationale guideline">non-free use rationale</a> on the image's description page for the use in this article.</li> <li>That this article is linked to from the image description page.</li></ul></dd></dl> <p>This is an automated notice by <a href="/wiki/User:FairuseBot" title="User:FairuseBot">FairuseBot</a>. For assistance on the image use policy, see <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Media_copyright_questions" title="Wikipedia:Media copyright questions">Wikipedia:Media copyright questions</a>. --<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Mac_OS_X_Server#c-FairuseBot-2008-09-23T08:46:00.000Z-Image_copyright_problem_with_Image:OSXLeopard.png" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">08:46, 23 September 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-FairuseBot-2008-09-23T08:46:00.000Z-Image_copyright_problem_with_Image:OSXLeopard.png"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-FairuseBot-2008-09-23T08:46:00.000Z-Image_copyright_problem_with_Image:OSXLeopard.png"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="More_info_needed" data-mw-thread-id="h-More_info_needed-2009-10-22T01:48:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-More_info_needed-2009-10-22T01:48:00.000Z"></span>More info needed<span data-mw-comment-end="h-More_info_needed-2009-10-22T01:48:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Talk:Mac_OS_X_Server&action=edit&section=9" title="Edit section: More info needed"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Beland-2009-10-22T01:48:00.000Z-More_info_needed"></span>This article could use some information beyond that found in the product brochure. For example, I was curious what kind of market share OS X has for servers. -- <a href="/wiki/User:Beland" title="User:Beland">Beland</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Beland" title="User talk:Beland">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Mac_OS_X_Server#c-Beland-2009-10-22T01:48:00.000Z-More_info_needed" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">01:48, 22 October 2009 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Beland-2009-10-22T01:48:00.000Z-More_info_needed"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Beland-2009-10-22T01:48:00.000Z-More_info_needed"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="License_information_is_misleading" data-mw-thread-id="h-License_information_is_misleading-2011-08-01T04:51:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-License_information_is_misleading-2011-08-01T04:51:00.000Z"></span>License information is misleading<span data-mw-comment-end="h-License_information_is_misleading-2011-08-01T04:51:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Talk:Mac_OS_X_Server&action=edit&section=10" title="Edit section: License information is misleading"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-59.167.188.168-2011-08-01T04:51:00.000Z-License_information_is_misleading"></span>I think the licensing information should be rewritten to more closely resemble the Mac OS X (desktop) page. Currently it states that Mac OS X server's source module is "Open source (Darwin foundation is open source)". The Mac OS X page is more correct: "Closed source (with open source components)". </p><p>The same applies to the license, currently it states "Apple Public Source License / Apple EULA", but it would be more correct as: "Proprietary EULA" <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">— Preceding <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Signatures" title="Wikipedia:Signatures">unsigned</a> comment added by <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/59.167.188.168" title="Special:Contributions/59.167.188.168">59.167.188.168</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:59.167.188.168" title="User talk:59.167.188.168">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Mac_OS_X_Server#c-59.167.188.168-2011-08-01T04:51:00.000Z-License_information_is_misleading" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">04:51, 1 August 2011 (UTC)</a></span><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-59.167.188.168-2011-08-01T04:51:00.000Z-License_information_is_misleading"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-59.167.188.168-2011-08-01T04:51:00.000Z-License_information_is_misleading"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Guy_Harris-2011-08-01T20:31:00.000Z-59.167.188.168-2011-08-01T04:51:00.000Z"></span>Yup. Done. <a href="/wiki/User:Guy_Harris" class="mw-redirect" title="User:Guy Harris">Guy Harris</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Guy_Harris" title="User talk:Guy Harris">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Mac_OS_X_Server#c-Guy_Harris-2011-08-01T20:31:00.000Z-59.167.188.168-2011-08-01T04:51:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:31, 1 August 2011 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Guy_Harris-2011-08-01T20:31:00.000Z-59.167.188.168-2011-08-01T04:51:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Guy_Harris-2011-08-01T20:31:00.000Z-59.167.188.168-2011-08-01T04:51:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="System_Requirements_-_Lion_Server" data-mw-thread-id="h-System_Requirements_-_Lion_Server-2011-12-26T18:08:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-System_Requirements_-_Lion_Server-2011-12-26T18:08:00.000Z"></span>System Requirements - Lion Server<span data-mw-comment-end="h-System_Requirements_-_Lion_Server-2011-12-26T18:08:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Talk:Mac_OS_X_Server&action=edit&section=11" title="Edit section: System Requirements - Lion Server"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Kylalak-2011-12-26T18:08:00.000Z-System_Requirements_-_Lion_Server"></span>Should it be mentioned in the system requirements for Lion Server that the web browsers specified are only for Wiki Server? --<a href="/wiki/User:Kylalak" title="User:Kylalak">Kylalak</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Kylalak" title="User talk:Kylalak">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Mac_OS_X_Server#c-Kylalak-2011-12-26T18:08:00.000Z-System_Requirements_-_Lion_Server" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:08, 26 December 2011 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Kylalak-2011-12-26T18:08:00.000Z-System_Requirements_-_Lion_Server"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Kylalak-2011-12-26T18:08:00.000Z-System_Requirements_-_Lion_Server"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Merge_with_OS_X" data-mw-thread-id="h-Merge_with_OS_X-2012-04-03T19:44:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Merge_with_OS_X-2012-04-03T19:44:00.000Z"></span>Merge with <a href="/wiki/OS_X" class="mw-redirect" title="OS X">OS X</a><span data-mw-comment-end="h-Merge_with_OS_X-2012-04-03T19:44:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Talk:Mac_OS_X_Server&action=edit&section=12" title="Edit section: Merge with OS X"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Lexlex-2012-04-03T19:44:00.000Z-Merge_with_OS_X"></span>Now that the product is no longer sold separately, would it make sense to merge this article with <a href="/wiki/OS_X" class="mw-redirect" title="OS X">OS X</a> or keep it here for some sort of historical purpose? <a href="/wiki/User:Lexlex" title="User:Lexlex">Lexlex</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Lexlex" title="User talk:Lexlex">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Mac_OS_X_Server#c-Lexlex-2012-04-03T19:44:00.000Z-Merge_with_OS_X" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:44, 3 April 2012 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Lexlex-2012-04-03T19:44:00.000Z-Merge_with_OS_X"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Lexlex-2012-04-03T19:44:00.000Z-Merge_with_OS_X"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Lexlex-2012-04-03T19:55:00.000Z-Lexlex-2012-04-03T19:44:00.000Z"></span>I've never seen an operating system supplanted by an application so don't really know what would work here. OS X Lion Server is now an app sold for $49 which requires OS X. What to do with this article? <a href="/wiki/User:Lexlex" title="User:Lexlex">Lexlex</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Lexlex" title="User talk:Lexlex">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Mac_OS_X_Server#c-Lexlex-2012-04-03T19:55:00.000Z-Lexlex-2012-04-03T19:44:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:55, 3 April 2012 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Lexlex-2012-04-03T19:55:00.000Z-Lexlex-2012-04-03T19:44:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Lexlex-2012-04-03T19:55:00.000Z-Lexlex-2012-04-03T19:44:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Guy_Harris-2012-04-04T03:25:00.000Z-Lexlex-2012-04-03T19:55:00.000Z"></span>My inclination is "don't merge, leave it as a historical record of the old days when Apple sold OS X Server as a separate OS package, and perhaps also use it to describe the contents of the add-on package for Lion and, if they continue this, Mountain Lion and subsequent releases". <a href="/wiki/User:Guy_Harris" class="mw-redirect" title="User:Guy Harris">Guy Harris</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Guy_Harris" title="User talk:Guy Harris">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Mac_OS_X_Server#c-Guy_Harris-2012-04-04T03:25:00.000Z-Lexlex-2012-04-03T19:55:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">03:25, 4 April 2012 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Guy_Harris-2012-04-04T03:25:00.000Z-Lexlex-2012-04-03T19:55:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Guy_Harris-2012-04-04T03:25:00.000Z-Lexlex-2012-04-03T19:55:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Jæs-2012-04-06T19:39:00.000Z-Guy_Harris-2012-04-04T03:25:00.000Z"></span>This is largely true for Windows Server, many (if not most) proprietary Linux "server" distributions, etc. What differentiates the server "operating system" from the client is additional features and applications, but they obviously share the base operating system with the client versions. I'd say keep, and agree that it should probably continue to define what differentiates OS X Server (app or OS, doesn't really matter) from the generic OS X. <small><span class="nounderlines" style="text-decoration:none; font-family:tahoma;"><a href="/wiki/User:J%C3%A6s" title="User:Jæs"><b style="color:#df1620;">jæs</b></a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:J%C3%A6s" title="User talk:Jæs"><small style="color:#6b6c6d;">(talk)</small></a></span></small> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Mac_OS_X_Server#c-Jæs-2012-04-06T19:39:00.000Z-Guy_Harris-2012-04-04T03:25:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:39, 6 April 2012 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Jæs-2012-04-06T19:39:00.000Z-Guy_Harris-2012-04-04T03:25:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Jæs-2012-04-06T19:39:00.000Z-Guy_Harris-2012-04-04T03:25:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Inconsistent?" data-mw-thread-id="h-Inconsistent?-2012-05-28T07:51:00.000Z"><span id="Inconsistent.3F"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Inconsistent?-2012-05-28T07:51:00.000Z"></span>Inconsistent?<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Inconsistent?-2012-05-28T07:51:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Talk:Mac_OS_X_Server&action=edit&section=13" title="Edit section: Inconsistent?"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Mortense-2012-05-28T07:51:00.000Z-Inconsistent?"></span>The part of the lead about Lion Server ("As of version 10.7 (Lion) ... A separate "server" operating system is no longer sold.") seems to contradics what is in section <a href="/wiki/OS_X_Server#Mac_OS_X_10.7_.28Lion.29" class="mw-redirect" title="OS X Server">Mac OS X 10.7 (Lion)</a> ("it would instead sell the server components as a US$49.99 add-on to Lion"). --<a href="/wiki/User:Mortense" title="User:Mortense">Mortense</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Mortense" title="User talk:Mortense">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Mac_OS_X_Server#c-Mortense-2012-05-28T07:51:00.000Z-Inconsistent?" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">07:51, 28 May 2012 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Mortense-2012-05-28T07:51:00.000Z-Inconsistent?"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Mortense-2012-05-28T07:51:00.000Z-Inconsistent?"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Guy_Harris-2012-05-28T07:57:00.000Z-Mortense-2012-05-28T07:51:00.000Z"></span>It's a little weird. Prior to Lion, Apple sold "Mac OS X", the client version, for one price, and "Mac OS X Server" for another price; the bulk of the code on the two OSes was the same, but "Mac OS X Server" included some additional applications and libraries. With Lion, the common code is sold as "Mac OS X Lion", and the additional server code was sold as an add-on. So there's no separate server <i>operating system</i> in the sense of a package you buy that is "Mac OS X Lion Server" in its entirety, but there <i>is</i> a package you can buy that, when added to "Mac OS X Lion", provides a version of Lion that includes tools to set it up and manage it as a server. <a href="/wiki/User:Guy_Harris" class="mw-redirect" title="User:Guy Harris">Guy Harris</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Guy_Harris" title="User talk:Guy Harris">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Mac_OS_X_Server#c-Guy_Harris-2012-05-28T07:57:00.000Z-Mortense-2012-05-28T07:51:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">07:57, 28 May 2012 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Guy_Harris-2012-05-28T07:57:00.000Z-Mortense-2012-05-28T07:51:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Guy_Harris-2012-05-28T07:57:00.000Z-Mortense-2012-05-28T07:51:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="So_how_does_Mountain_Lion_differ_from_Lion_here?" data-mw-thread-id="h-So_how_does_Mountain_Lion_differ_from_Lion_here?-2012-07-31T18:33:00.000Z"><span id="So_how_does_Mountain_Lion_differ_from_Lion_here.3F"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-So_how_does_Mountain_Lion_differ_from_Lion_here?-2012-07-31T18:33:00.000Z"></span>So how does Mountain Lion differ from Lion here?<span data-mw-comment-end="h-So_how_does_Mountain_Lion_differ_from_Lion_here?-2012-07-31T18:33:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Talk:Mac_OS_X_Server&action=edit&section=14" title="Edit section: So how does Mountain Lion differ from Lion here?"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Guy_Harris-2012-07-31T18:33:00.000Z-So_how_does_Mountain_Lion_differ_from_Lion_here?"></span>There's no "Lion Server" as a complete OS product, there's just Lion and a server add-on package. Is this any different from Mountain Lion? <a href="/wiki/User:Guy_Harris" class="mw-redirect" title="User:Guy Harris">Guy Harris</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Guy_Harris" title="User talk:Guy Harris">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Mac_OS_X_Server#c-Guy_Harris-2012-07-31T18:33:00.000Z-So_how_does_Mountain_Lion_differ_from_Lion_here?" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:33, 31 July 2012 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Guy_Harris-2012-07-31T18:33:00.000Z-So_how_does_Mountain_Lion_differ_from_Lion_here?"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Guy_Harris-2012-07-31T18:33:00.000Z-So_how_does_Mountain_Lion_differ_from_Lion_here?"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Lexlex-2012-07-31T20:08:00.000Z-Guy_Harris-2012-07-31T18:33:00.000Z"></span>There is no difference. I think this article should become historic and perhaps create another one for the add on package(s) for server features. The additions to this page over the past few months make it seem like this product still exists. It doesn't. <a href="/wiki/User:Lexlex" title="User:Lexlex">Lexlex</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Lexlex" title="User talk:Lexlex">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Mac_OS_X_Server#c-Lexlex-2012-07-31T20:08:00.000Z-Guy_Harris-2012-07-31T18:33:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:08, 31 July 2012 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Lexlex-2012-07-31T20:08:00.000Z-Guy_Harris-2012-07-31T18:33:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Lexlex-2012-07-31T20:08:00.000Z-Guy_Harris-2012-07-31T18:33:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Copyright_problem_removed" data-mw-thread-id="h-Copyright_problem_removed-2014-03-19T16:42:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Copyright_problem_removed-2014-03-19T16:42:00.000Z"></span>Copyright problem removed<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Copyright_problem_removed-2014-03-19T16:42:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Talk:Mac_OS_X_Server&action=edit&section=15" title="Edit section: Copyright problem removed"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Guy_Harris-2014-03-19T16:42:00.000Z-Copyright_problem_removed"></span>Prior content in this article duplicated one or more previously published sources. 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Thank you. <a href="/wiki/User:Guy_Harris" class="mw-redirect" title="User:Guy Harris">Guy Harris</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Guy_Harris" title="User talk:Guy Harris">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Mac_OS_X_Server#c-Guy_Harris-2014-03-19T16:42:00.000Z-Copyright_problem_removed" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:42, 19 March 2014 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Guy_Harris-2014-03-19T16:42:00.000Z-Copyright_problem_removed"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Guy_Harris-2014-03-19T16:42:00.000Z-Copyright_problem_removed"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="NetBSD_code?" data-mw-thread-id="h-NetBSD_code?-2015-10-27T17:07:00.000Z"><span id="NetBSD_code.3F"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-NetBSD_code?-2015-10-27T17:07:00.000Z"></span>NetBSD code?<span data-mw-comment-end="h-NetBSD_code?-2015-10-27T17:07:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Talk:Mac_OS_X_Server&action=edit&section=16" title="Edit section: NetBSD code?"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Qwertyus-2015-10-27T17:07:00.000Z-NetBSD_code?"></span>The Unix family tree at <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Unix_history-simple.svg" class="extiw" title="commons:File:Unix history-simple.svg">Commons:File:Unix history-simple.svg</a> suggests that the original Mac OS X Server combined NextStep and NetBSD code. Is that correct? I can't find it mentioned anywhere, except on the Simple English Wikipedia. <a href="/wiki/User:Qwertyus" title="User:Qwertyus">Q<small>VVERTYVS</small></a> <small>(<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Qwertyus" title="User talk:Qwertyus">hm?</a>)</small> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Mac_OS_X_Server#c-Qwertyus-2015-10-27T17:07:00.000Z-NetBSD_code?" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:07, 27 October 2015 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Qwertyus-2015-10-27T17:07:00.000Z-NetBSD_code?"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Qwertyus-2015-10-27T17:07:00.000Z-NetBSD_code?"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-PowerPCG5-2020-04-03T02:35:00.000Z-Qwertyus-2015-10-27T17:07:00.000Z"></span>Apple Mac OS X Server incorporates numerous components and subsystems from various <a href="/wiki/BSD_licenses" title="BSD licenses">simply, permissively licensed</a> <a href="/wiki/Open_source" title="Open source">open source</a> projects, including <a href="/wiki/FreeBSD" title="FreeBSD">FreeBSD</a>, <a href="/wiki/OpenBSD" title="OpenBSD">OpenBSD</a>, <a href="/wiki/NetBSD" title="NetBSD">NetBSD</a>, and open-sourced components used in the <a href="/wiki/Solaris" class="mw-disambig" title="Solaris">Solaris</a>/<a href="/wiki/OpenSolaris" title="OpenSolaris">OpenSolaris</a> family of operating systems; as a result, it is an over-simplification to say that Mac OS X Server is just a “combination” of <i>X</i> and <i>Y</i>. —<a href="/w/index.php?title=User:PowerPCG5&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:PowerPCG5 (page does not exist)">PowerPCG5</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:PowerPCG5" title="User talk:PowerPCG5">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Mac_OS_X_Server#c-PowerPCG5-2020-04-03T02:35:00.000Z-Qwertyus-2015-10-27T17:07:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">02:35, 3 April 2020 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-PowerPCG5-2020-04-03T02:35:00.000Z-Qwertyus-2015-10-27T17:07:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-PowerPCG5-2020-04-03T02:35:00.000Z-Qwertyus-2015-10-27T17:07:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Guy_Harris-2020-04-03T02:45:00.000Z-PowerPCG5-2020-04-03T02:35:00.000Z"></span>And the same applies to non-server versions of macOS (under all three names macOS has had). <a href="/wiki/User:Guy_Harris" class="mw-redirect" title="User:Guy Harris">Guy Harris</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Guy_Harris" title="User talk:Guy Harris">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Mac_OS_X_Server#c-Guy_Harris-2020-04-03T02:45:00.000Z-PowerPCG5-2020-04-03T02:35:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">02:45, 3 April 2020 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Guy_Harris-2020-04-03T02:45:00.000Z-PowerPCG5-2020-04-03T02:35:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Guy_Harris-2020-04-03T02:45:00.000Z-PowerPCG5-2020-04-03T02:35:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="End-of-Life_(EOL)_or_End-of-Support_(EOS)_dates" data-mw-thread-id="h-End-of-Life_(EOL)_or_End-of-Support_(EOS)_dates-2019-06-07T17:36:00.000Z"><span id="End-of-Life_.28EOL.29_or_End-of-Support_.28EOS.29_dates"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-End-of-Life_(EOL)_or_End-of-Support_(EOS)_dates-2019-06-07T17:36:00.000Z"></span>End-of-Life (EOL) or End-of-Support (EOS) dates<span data-mw-comment-end="h-End-of-Life_(EOL)_or_End-of-Support_(EOS)_dates-2019-06-07T17:36:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Talk:Mac_OS_X_Server&action=edit&section=17" title="Edit section: End-of-Life (EOL) or End-of-Support (EOS) dates"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Cherdt-2019-06-07T17:36:00.000Z-End-of-Life_(EOL)_or_End-of-Support_(EOS)_dates"></span>It would be useful to include the end-of-support dates for each version. For regular Mac OS X, I believe the usual support model is the current major version and 2 prior major versions. I expect the support model is similar for MacOS Server, but I'm not certain <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Cherdt&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Cherdt (page does not exist)">Cherdt</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Cherdt" title="User talk:Cherdt">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Mac_OS_X_Server#c-Cherdt-2019-06-07T17:36:00.000Z-End-of-Life_(EOL)_or_End-of-Support_(EOS)_dates" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:36, 7 June 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Cherdt-2019-06-07T17:36:00.000Z-End-of-Life_(EOL)_or_End-of-Support_(EOS)_dates"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Cherdt-2019-06-07T17:36:00.000Z-End-of-Life_(EOL)_or_End-of-Support_(EOS)_dates"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Mac_OS_X_Server_is_the_clean_common_name" data-mw-thread-id="h-Mac_OS_X_Server_is_the_clean_common_name-20230205130600"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Mac_OS_X_Server_is_the_clean_common_name-20230205130600"></span>Mac OS X Server is the clean common name<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Mac_OS_X_Server_is_the_clean_common_name-20230205130600"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Talk:Mac_OS_X_Server&action=edit&section=18" title="Edit section: Mac OS X Server is the clean common name"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-DFlhb-20230205130600-Mac_OS_X_Server_is_the_clean_common_name"></span>Mac OS X Server is the clear common name, see <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://books.google.com/ngrams/graph?content=mac+os+x+server%2Cmacos+server&year_start=1800&year_end=2019&corpus=en-2019&smoothing=3&case_insensitive=true">Google Ngram</a>. All the huge 500-page manuals written about Mac OS X Server were written in that "Mac OS X"-era, pre-Lion (there wasn't much to write about, after Lion). I'm boldly moving the page. <a href="/wiki/User:DFlhb" title="User:DFlhb">DFlhb</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:DFlhb" title="User talk:DFlhb">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Mac_OS_X_Server#c-DFlhb-20230205130600-Mac_OS_X_Server_is_the_clean_common_name" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:06, 5 February 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-DFlhb-20230205130600-Mac_OS_X_Server_is_the_clean_common_name"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-DFlhb-20230205130600-Mac_OS_X_Server_is_the_clean_common_name"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Removed_open_source_components_tables" data-mw-thread-id="h-Removed_open_source_components_tables-20230205144300"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Removed_open_source_components_tables-20230205144300"></span>Removed open source components tables<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Removed_open_source_components_tables-20230205144300"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Talk:Mac_OS_X_Server&action=edit&section=19" title="Edit section: Removed open source components tables"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-DFlhb-20230205144300-Removed_open_source_components_tables"></span>I just removed the open-source components tables in <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Mac_OS_X_Server&diff=prev&oldid=1137601224&diffmode=source">this diff</a>, due to finding no secondary sources. If you find any, feel free to bring them back, though please bring them back at the bottom of the article (in an "Open-source components" section"), and <i>flip</i> the tables, so the Mac OS X Server version numbers are on the left, and the components are on top. 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