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href="/wiki/Category:Law_enforcement_operations_against_organized_crime_in_Spain" title="Category:Law enforcement operations against organized crime in Spain">Category:Law enforcement operations against organized crime in Spain</a></li> <li><b>Propose renaming</b> <span class="plainlinks nourlexpansion lx"><a href="/w/index.php?title=Category:Operations_against_organised_crime_in_the_United_Kingdom&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Category:Operations against organised crime in the United Kingdom (page does not exist)">Category:Operations against organised crime in the United Kingdom</a> <span style="font-size:90%;">(<a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Category:Operations_against_organised_crime_in_the_United_Kingdom&action=edit">edit</a> | <a href="/w/index.php?title=Category_talk:Operations_against_organised_crime_in_the_United_Kingdom&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Category talk:Operations against organised crime in the United Kingdom (page does not exist)">talk</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Category:Operations_against_organised_crime_in_the_United_Kingdom&action=history">history</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Whatlinkshere/:Category:Operations_against_organised_crime_in_the_United_Kingdom">links</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Category:Operations_against_organised_crime_in_the_United_Kingdom&action=watch">watch</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Log&page=%3ACategory%3AOperations+against+organised+crime+in+the+United+Kingdom">logs</a>)</span></span> to <a href="/wiki/Category:Law_enforcement_operations_against_organised_crime_in_the_United_Kingdom" title="Category:Law enforcement operations against organised crime in the United Kingdom">Category:Law enforcement operations against organised crime in the United Kingdom</a></li> <li><b>Propose renaming</b> <span class="plainlinks nourlexpansion lx"><a href="/w/index.php?title=Category:Operations_against_organized_crime_in_the_United_States&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Category:Operations against organized crime in the United States (page does not exist)">Category:Operations against organized crime in the United States</a> <span style="font-size:90%;">(<a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Category:Operations_against_organized_crime_in_the_United_States&action=edit">edit</a> | <a href="/w/index.php?title=Category_talk:Operations_against_organized_crime_in_the_United_States&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Category talk:Operations against organized crime in the United States (page does not exist)">talk</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Category:Operations_against_organized_crime_in_the_United_States&action=history">history</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Whatlinkshere/:Category:Operations_against_organized_crime_in_the_United_States">links</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Category:Operations_against_organized_crime_in_the_United_States&action=watch">watch</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Log&page=%3ACategory%3AOperations+against+organized+crime+in+the+United+States">logs</a>)</span></span> to <a href="/wiki/Category:Law_enforcement_operations_against_organized_crime_in_the_United_States" title="Category:Law enforcement operations against organized crime in the United States">Category:Law enforcement operations against organized crime in the United States</a></li></ul></dd> <dd><b>Nominator's rationale:</b> Consistency with parent <a href="/wiki/Category:Law_enforcement_operations" title="Category:Law enforcement operations">Category:Law enforcement operations</a>. –<a href="/wiki/User:LaundryPizza03" title="User:LaundryPizza03"><b style="color:#77b">Laundry</b><b style="color:#fb0">Pizza</b><b style="color:#b00">03</b></a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:LaundryPizza03" title="User talk:LaundryPizza03"><span style="color:#0d0">d</span></a><a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/LaundryPizza03" title="Special:Contributions/LaundryPizza03"><span style="color:#0bf">c̄</span></a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2024_October_24#c-LaundryPizza03-20241024200900-Category:Operations_against_organized_crime" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:09, 24 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-LaundryPizza03-20241024200900-Category:Operations_against_organized_crime"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241024200900","author":"LaundryPizza03","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-LaundryPizza03-20241024200900-Category:Operations_against_organized_crime","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-LaundryPizza03-20241024200900-Category:Operations_against_organized_crime"></span></dd></dl> <ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Fayenatic_london-20241025121100-Category:Operations_against_organized_crime"></span>Maybe, but there's also a parent <a href="/wiki/Category:Military_operations_by_type" title="Category:Military operations by type">Military operations by type</a>, so the top category should rather be <b>split</b> to <a href="/wiki/Category:Law_enforcement_operations_against_organized_crime" title="Category:Law enforcement operations against organized crime">Category:Law enforcement operations against organized crime</a> and <a href="/wiki/Category:Military_operations_against_organized_crime" title="Category:Military operations against organized crime">Category:Military operations against organized crime</a>. <a href="/wiki/United_States_invasion_of_Panama" title="United States invasion of Panama">United States invasion of Panama</a> would go in the latter, and at least <a href="/wiki/2024_Ecuadorian_conflict" title="2024 Ecuadorian conflict">2024 Ecuadorian conflict</a>, <a href="/wiki/War_on_drugs_in_Ecuador" title="War on drugs in Ecuador">War on drugs in Ecuador</a> and <a href="/wiki/Operation_Snowcap" title="Operation Snowcap">Operation Snowcap</a> would go in both. – <a href="/wiki/User:Fayenatic_london" title="User:Fayenatic london">Fayenatic</a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Fayenatic_london" title="User talk:Fayenatic london"><b><span style="color:#FF0000;">L</span></b>ondon</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2024_October_24#c-Fayenatic_london-20241025121100-Category:Operations_against_organized_crime" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:11, 25 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Fayenatic_london-20241025121100-Category:Operations_against_organized_crime"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241025121100","author":"Fayenatic london","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Fayenatic_london-20241025121100-Category:Operations_against_organized_crime","replies":["c-LaundryPizza03-20241026012100-Fayenatic_london-20241025121100"],"displayName":"Fayenatic"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Fayenatic_london-20241025121100-Category:Operations_against_organized_crime"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-LaundryPizza03-20241026012100-Fayenatic_london-20241025121100"></span>That's not unreasonable, since there is an important difference between military and law enforcement. –<a href="/wiki/User:LaundryPizza03" title="User:LaundryPizza03"><b style="color:#77b">Laundry</b><b style="color:#fb0">Pizza</b><b style="color:#b00">03</b></a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:LaundryPizza03" title="User talk:LaundryPizza03"><span style="color:#0d0">d</span></a><a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/LaundryPizza03" title="Special:Contributions/LaundryPizza03"><span style="color:#0bf">c̄</span></a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2024_October_24#c-LaundryPizza03-20241026012100-Fayenatic_london-20241025121100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">01:21, 26 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-LaundryPizza03-20241026012100-Fayenatic_london-20241025121100"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241026012100","author":"LaundryPizza03","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-LaundryPizza03-20241026012100-Fayenatic_london-20241025121100","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-LaundryPizza03-20241026012100-Fayenatic_london-20241025121100"></span></dd></dl></li></ul> <hr/> <dl><dd><i>The above is preserved as an archive of the discussion. <span style="color:red"><b>Please do not modify it.</b></span> Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the category's <a href="/wiki/Help:Using_talk_pages" class="mw-redirect" title="Help:Using talk pages">talk page</a> or in a <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Deletion_review" title="Wikipedia:Deletion review">deletion review</a>). No further edits should be made to this section.</i></dd></dl></div> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading4"><h4 id="Category:Child_pornography_crackdowns" data-mw-thread-id="h-Category:Child_pornography_crackdowns-October_24-20241024195700"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Category:Child_pornography_crackdowns-October_24-20241024195700"></span>Category:Child pornography crackdowns<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Category:Child_pornography_crackdowns-October_24-20241024195700"></span></h4><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2024_October_24&action=edit&section=3" title="Edit section: Category:Child pornography crackdowns"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span></div> <div class="boilerplate cfd vfd xfd-closed mw-archivedtalk" style="background-color:#bff9fc; margin:0 auto; padding:0 10px 0 10px; border:1px solid #AAAAAA;"> <dl><dd><i><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-HouseBlaster-20241031234100-Category:Child_pornography_crackdowns"></span>The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more categories. <span style="color:red"><b>Please do not modify it.</b></span> Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the category's <a href="/wiki/Help:Using_talk_pages" class="mw-redirect" title="Help:Using talk pages">talk page</a> or in a <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Deletion_review" title="Wikipedia:Deletion review">deletion review</a>). No further edits should be made to this section.</i></dd></dl> <dl><dd><i>The result of the discussion was:</i> <b>rename</b>. <b><a href="/wiki/User:HouseBlaster" title="User:HouseBlaster">House</a><a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/HouseBlaster" title="Special:Contributions/HouseBlaster"><span style="color:#7D066B;">Blaster</span></a></b> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:HouseBlaster" title="User talk:HouseBlaster">talk</a> • he/they) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2024_October_24#c-HouseBlaster-20241031234100-Category:Child_pornography_crackdowns" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:41, 31 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-HouseBlaster-20241031234100-Category:Child_pornography_crackdowns"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241031234100","author":"HouseBlaster","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-HouseBlaster-20241031234100-Category:Child_pornography_crackdowns","replies":[],"displayName":"House"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-HouseBlaster-20241031234100-Category:Child_pornography_crackdowns"></span></dd></dl> <dl><dd><ul><li><b><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-LaundryPizza03-20241024195700-Category:Child_pornography_crackdowns"></span>Propose renaming</b> <a href="/w/index.php?title=Category:Child_pornography_crackdowns&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Category:Child pornography crackdowns (page does not exist)">Category:Child pornography crackdowns</a> to <a href="/wiki/Category:Law_enforcement_operations_against_child_pornography" title="Category:Law enforcement operations against child pornography">Category:Law enforcement operations against child pornography</a></li></ul></dd> <dd><b>Nominator's rationale:</b> Actual contents are mostly law enforcement operations. Those that aren't should be purged and relocated to other subcategories of <a href="/wiki/Category:Child_pornography" title="Category:Child pornography">Category:Child pornography</a>. –<a href="/wiki/User:LaundryPizza03" title="User:LaundryPizza03"><b style="color:#77b">Laundry</b><b style="color:#fb0">Pizza</b><b style="color:#b00">03</b></a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:LaundryPizza03" title="User talk:LaundryPizza03"><span style="color:#0d0">d</span></a><a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/LaundryPizza03" title="Special:Contributions/LaundryPizza03"><span style="color:#0bf">c̄</span></a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2024_October_24#c-LaundryPizza03-20241024195700-Category:Child_pornography_crackdowns" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:57, 24 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-LaundryPizza03-20241024195700-Category:Child_pornography_crackdowns"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241024195700","author":"LaundryPizza03","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-LaundryPizza03-20241024195700-Category:Child_pornography_crackdowns","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-LaundryPizza03-20241024195700-Category:Child_pornography_crackdowns"></span></dd></dl> <hr/> <dl><dd><i>The above is preserved as an archive of the discussion. <span style="color:red"><b>Please do not modify it.</b></span> Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the category's <a href="/wiki/Help:Using_talk_pages" class="mw-redirect" title="Help:Using talk pages">talk page</a> or in a <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Deletion_review" title="Wikipedia:Deletion review">deletion review</a>). No further edits should be made to this section.</i></dd></dl></div> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading4"><h4 id="Empires_and_kingdoms_of_foo" data-mw-thread-id="h-Empires_and_kingdoms_of_foo-October_24"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Empires_and_kingdoms_of_foo-October_24"></span>Empires and kingdoms of foo<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Empires_and_kingdoms_of_foo-October_24"></span></h4><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2024_October_24&action=edit&section=4" title="Edit section: Empires and kingdoms of foo"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span></div> <p><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/50/Symbol_move_vote.svg/16px-Symbol_move_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="16" height="16" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/50/Symbol_move_vote.svg/24px-Symbol_move_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/50/Symbol_move_vote.svg/32px-Symbol_move_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></span></span> <b>Relisted</b>, see <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2024_November_1#Empires_and_kingdoms_of_foo" title="Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2024 November 1">Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2024 November 1#Empires and kingdoms of foo</a> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading4"><h4 id="Category:Unassessed_vital_articles" data-mw-thread-id="h-Category:Unassessed_vital_articles-October_24-20241024195500"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Category:Unassessed_vital_articles-October_24-20241024195500"></span>Category:Unassessed vital articles<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Category:Unassessed_vital_articles-October_24-20241024195500"></span></h4><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2024_October_24&action=edit&section=5" title="Edit section: Category:Unassessed vital articles"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span></div> <div class="boilerplate cfd vfd xfd-closed mw-archivedtalk" style="background-color:#bff9fc; margin:0 auto; padding:0 10px 0 10px; border:1px solid #AAAAAA;"> <dl><dd><i><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-LaundryPizza03-20241026012000-Category:Unassessed_vital_articles"></span>The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more categories. <span style="color:red"><b>Please do not modify it.</b></span> Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the category's <a href="/wiki/Help:Using_talk_pages" class="mw-redirect" title="Help:Using talk pages">talk page</a> or in a <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Deletion_review" title="Wikipedia:Deletion review">deletion review</a>). No further edits should be made to this section.</i></dd></dl> <dl><dd><i>The result of the discussion was:</i> <b>deleted</b> out of process. <small><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:NACD" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:NACD">(non-admin closure)</a></small> –<a href="/wiki/User:LaundryPizza03" title="User:LaundryPizza03"><b style="color:#77b">Laundry</b><b style="color:#fb0">Pizza</b><b style="color:#b00">03</b></a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:LaundryPizza03" title="User talk:LaundryPizza03"><span style="color:#0d0">d</span></a><a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/LaundryPizza03" title="Special:Contributions/LaundryPizza03"><span style="color:#0bf">c̄</span></a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2024_October_24#c-LaundryPizza03-20241026012000-Category:Unassessed_vital_articles" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">01:20, 26 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-LaundryPizza03-20241026012000-Category:Unassessed_vital_articles"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241026012000","author":"LaundryPizza03","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-LaundryPizza03-20241026012000-Category:Unassessed_vital_articles","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-LaundryPizza03-20241026012000-Category:Unassessed_vital_articles"></span> <ul><li><b><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Hellow_i_am_here-20241024195500-Category:Unassessed_vital_articles"></span>Propose deleting</b> <span class="plainlinks nourlexpansion lx"><a href="/w/index.php?title=Category:Unassessed_vital_articles&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Category:Unassessed vital articles (page does not exist)">Category:Unassessed vital articles</a> <span style="font-size:90%;">(<a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Category:Unassessed_vital_articles&action=edit">edit</a> | <a href="/w/index.php?title=Category_talk:Unassessed_vital_articles&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Category talk:Unassessed vital articles (page does not exist)">talk</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Category:Unassessed_vital_articles&action=history">history</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Whatlinkshere/:Category:Unassessed_vital_articles">links</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Category:Unassessed_vital_articles&action=watch">watch</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Log&page=%3ACategory%3AUnassessed+vital+articles">logs</a>)</span></span></li></ul></dd> <dd><b>Nominator's rationale:</b> Category <a href="/w/index.php?title=Category:Unassessed_vital_articles&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Category:Unassessed vital articles (page does not exist)">Category:Unassessed vital articles</a> <i>is</i> a project page! Also, I don't understand New Nominations, but I am pretty sure there aren't any. It is used for WikiProject Vital Articles, so why is it a canidate for speedy deletion? <small class="autosigned">— Preceding <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Signatures" title="Wikipedia:Signatures">unsigned</a> comment added by <a href="/wiki/User:Hellow_i_am_here" title="User:Hellow i am here">Hellow i am here</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Hellow_i_am_here#top" title="User talk:Hellow i am here">talk</a> • <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Hellow_i_am_here" title="Special:Contributions/Hellow i am here">contribs</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2024_October_24#c-Hellow_i_am_here-20241024195500-Category:Unassessed_vital_articles" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:55, 24 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Hellow_i_am_here-20241024195500-Category:Unassessed_vital_articles"></span></small><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Hellow_i_am_here-20241024195500-Category:Unassessed_vital_articles"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241024195500","author":"Hellow i am here","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Hellow_i_am_here-20241024195500-Category:Unassessed_vital_articles","replies":[]}}--></span></dd> <dd><b><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-LaundryPizza03-20241024195900-Category:Unassessed_vital_articles"></span>Comment</b> The above comment was malformed and is now fixed. <b>Speedy delete</b> per <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:C4" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:C4">C4</a>. –<a href="/wiki/User:LaundryPizza03" title="User:LaundryPizza03"><b style="color:#77b">Laundry</b><b style="color:#fb0">Pizza</b><b style="color:#b00">03</b></a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:LaundryPizza03" title="User talk:LaundryPizza03"><span style="color:#0d0">d</span></a><a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/LaundryPizza03" title="Special:Contributions/LaundryPizza03"><span style="color:#0bf">c̄</span></a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2024_October_24#c-LaundryPizza03-20241024195900-Category:Unassessed_vital_articles" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:59, 24 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-LaundryPizza03-20241024195900-Category:Unassessed_vital_articles"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241024195900","author":"LaundryPizza03","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-LaundryPizza03-20241024195900-Category:Unassessed_vital_articles","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-LaundryPizza03-20241024195900-Category:Unassessed_vital_articles"></span></dd></dl> <ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Fayenatic_london-20241025122500-Category:Unassessed_vital_articles"></span>For the record, this was within <a href="/wiki/Category:Wikipedia_vital_articles_needing_attention" title="Category:Wikipedia vital articles needing attention">Category:Wikipedia vital articles needing attention</a>, <a href="/wiki/Category:Vital_articles_by_quality" title="Category:Vital articles by quality">Category:Vital articles by quality</a> and <a href="/wiki/Category:Unassessed_articles" title="Category:Unassessed articles">Category:Unassessed articles</a>. It was tagged with <span class="nowrap">{{</span><a href="/wiki/Template:Db-c1" title="Template:Db-c1">db-c1</a><span class="nowrap">}}</span> on 17 Oct by <a href="/wiki/User:MSGJ" title="User:MSGJ">MSGJ</a>, saying <i>"no longer in use, using <a href="/wiki/Category:Wikipedia_vital_articles_needing_attention" title="Category:Wikipedia vital articles needing attention">Category:Wikipedia vital articles needing attention</a> instead"</i>. At 20:10 on 24 Oct, <a href="/wiki/User:LaundryPizza03" title="User:LaundryPizza03">LaundryPizza03</a> tagged it with <span class="nowrap">{{</span><a href="/wiki/Template:Db-c4" title="Template:Db-c4">db-c4</a><span class="nowrap">}}</span>, then <a href="/wiki/User:Liz" title="User:Liz">Liz</a> deleted it the same day. – <a href="/wiki/User:Fayenatic_london" title="User:Fayenatic london">Fayenatic</a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Fayenatic_london" title="User talk:Fayenatic london"><b><span style="color:#FF0000;">L</span></b>ondon</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2024_October_24#c-Fayenatic_london-20241025122500-Category:Unassessed_vital_articles" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:25, 25 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Fayenatic_london-20241025122500-Category:Unassessed_vital_articles"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241025122500","author":"Fayenatic london","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Fayenatic_london-20241025122500-Category:Unassessed_vital_articles","replies":[],"displayName":"Fayenatic"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Fayenatic_london-20241025122500-Category:Unassessed_vital_articles"></span></li> <li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-MSGJ-20241025123000-Category:Unassessed_vital_articles"></span>Please see <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Vital_articles#Articles_which_need_attention" title="Wikipedia talk:Vital articles">Wikipedia talk:Vital articles#Articles which need attention</a> where I proposed that this category be merged with another — Martin <small>(<a href="/wiki/User:MSGJ" title="User:MSGJ">MSGJ</a> · <a href="/wiki/User_talk:MSGJ" title="User talk:MSGJ">talk</a>)</small> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2024_October_24#c-MSGJ-20241025123000-Category:Unassessed_vital_articles" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:30, 25 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-MSGJ-20241025123000-Category:Unassessed_vital_articles"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241025123000","author":"MSGJ","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-MSGJ-20241025123000-Category:Unassessed_vital_articles","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-MSGJ-20241025123000-Category:Unassessed_vital_articles"></span></li></ul> <hr/> <dl><dd><i>The above is preserved as an archive of the discussion. <span style="color:red"><b>Please do not modify it.</b></span> Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the category's <a href="/wiki/Help:Using_talk_pages" class="mw-redirect" title="Help:Using talk pages">talk page</a> or in a <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Deletion_review" title="Wikipedia:Deletion review">deletion review</a>). No further edits should be made to this section.</i></dd></dl></div> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading4"><h4 id="Early_abbots_by_century" data-mw-thread-id="h-Early_abbots_by_century-October_24-20241008180700"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Early_abbots_by_century-October_24-20241008180700"></span>Early abbots by century<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Early_abbots_by_century-October_24-20241008180700"></span></h4><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2024_October_24&action=edit&section=6" title="Edit section: Early abbots by century"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span></div> <div class="boilerplate cfd vfd xfd-closed mw-archivedtalk" style="background-color:#bff9fc; margin:0 auto; padding:0 10px 0 10px; border:1px solid #AAAAAA;"> <dl><dd><i><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-HouseBlaster-20241101000200-Early_abbots_by_century"></span>The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more categories. <span style="color:red"><b>Please do not modify it.</b></span> Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the category's <a href="/wiki/Help:Using_talk_pages" class="mw-redirect" title="Help:Using talk pages">talk page</a> or in a <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Deletion_review" title="Wikipedia:Deletion review">deletion review</a>). No further edits should be made to this section.</i></dd></dl> <dl><dd><i>The result of the discussion was:</i> <b>no consensus</b>. <b><a href="/wiki/User:HouseBlaster" title="User:HouseBlaster">House</a><a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/HouseBlaster" title="Special:Contributions/HouseBlaster"><span style="color:#7D066B;">Blaster</span></a></b> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:HouseBlaster" title="User talk:HouseBlaster">talk</a> • he/they) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2024_October_24#c-HouseBlaster-20241101000200-Early_abbots_by_century" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:02, 1 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-HouseBlaster-20241101000200-Early_abbots_by_century"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241101000200","author":"HouseBlaster","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-HouseBlaster-20241101000200-Early_abbots_by_century","replies":[],"displayName":"House"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-HouseBlaster-20241101000200-Early_abbots_by_century"></span> <ul><li><b><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Marcocapelle-20241008180700-Early_abbots_by_century"></span>Propose deleting</b> <a href="/wiki/Category:5th-century_abbots" title="Category:5th-century abbots">Category:5th-century abbots</a></li> <li><b>Propose deleting</b> <a href="/wiki/Category:6th-century_abbots" title="Category:6th-century abbots">Category:6th-century abbots</a></li> <li><b>Propose deleting</b> <a href="/wiki/Category:7th-century_abbots" title="Category:7th-century abbots">Category:7th-century abbots</a></li> <li><b>Propose deleting</b> <a href="/wiki/Category:8th-century_abbots" title="Category:8th-century abbots">Category:8th-century abbots</a></li> <li><b>Propose deleting</b> <a href="/wiki/Category:9th-century_abbots" title="Category:9th-century abbots">Category:9th-century abbots</a></li> <li><b>Propose deleting</b> <a href="/wiki/Category:10th-century_abbots" title="Category:10th-century abbots">Category:10th-century abbots</a></li> <li><b>Propose deleting</b> <a href="/wiki/Category:11th-century_abbots" title="Category:11th-century abbots">Category:11th-century abbots</a></li> <li><b>Propose deleting</b> <a href="/wiki/Category:12th-century_abbots" title="Category:12th-century abbots">Category:12th-century abbots</a></li></ul></dd> <dd><b>Nominator's rationale</b>: the earliest non-Christian (Buddhist) abbot that we have an article about is <a href="/wiki/Yishan_Yining" title="Yishan Yining">Yishan Yining</a> who lived in the 13th century. These categories don't contribute to navigation until we have articles about earlier Buddhist abbots. All Irish abbots of this period were Christian abbots and can be added as subcategories thereof. It would be naieve to state that these Irish abbots do not belong in Christian abbots <i>just because</i> the Irish category name does not specify "Christian". Wikipedia should reflect the real world and not get stuck too much in its internal organization. The real world is that there weren't Buddhist abbots in medieval Ireland, they were all Christian. This nomination is of course without objection to recreation once we have articles about earlier Buddhist abbots. <a href="/wiki/User:Marcocapelle" title="User:Marcocapelle">Marcocapelle</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Marcocapelle" title="User talk:Marcocapelle">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2024_October_24#c-Marcocapelle-20241008180700-Early_abbots_by_century" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:07, 8 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Marcocapelle-20241008180700-Early_abbots_by_century"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241008180700","author":"Marcocapelle","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Marcocapelle-20241008180700-Early_abbots_by_century","replies":["c-Smasongarrison-20241008214700-Marcocapelle-20241008180700"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Marcocapelle-20241008180700-Early_abbots_by_century"></span> <dl><dd><b><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Smasongarrison-20241008214700-Marcocapelle-20241008180700"></span>Oppose</b>. > It would be naieve to state that these Irish abbots do not belong in Christian abbots <i>just because</i> the Irish category name does not specify "Christian".</dd> <dd>I never said that the individuals in the page don't belong in the Christian abbots category. I said that you shouldn't be conflating nationality and religion at the category level. Three things: I don't see why you're suggesting deletion, instead of merging. This deletion is going to break the abbot by nationality template. This seems premature, given that I <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Marcocapelle#Why_did_you_remove_the_Abbots_by_nationality_and_century_category_header?" title="User talk:Marcocapelle">asked you about this on your talk page</a>. <a href="/wiki/User:Smasongarrison" title="User:Smasongarrison">Mason</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Smasongarrison" title="User talk:Smasongarrison">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2024_October_24#c-Smasongarrison-20241008214700-Marcocapelle-20241008180700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:47, 8 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Smasongarrison-20241008214700-Marcocapelle-20241008180700"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241008214700","author":"Smasongarrison","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Smasongarrison-20241008214700-Marcocapelle-20241008180700","replies":[],"displayName":"Mason"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Smasongarrison-20241008214700-Marcocapelle-20241008180700"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <ul><li><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Marcocapelle-20241009054200-Early_abbots_by_century"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:Nederlandse_Leeuw" title="User:Nederlandse Leeuw">Nederlandse Leeuw</a> and <a href="/wiki/User:Fayenatic_london" title="User:Fayenatic london">Fayenatic london</a>:</span> what do you think of this? Better to have third-party input here. The discussion is in the first place about whether (medieval) Irish abbots should be a subcategory or a sibling of Christian abbots. <a href="/wiki/User:Marcocapelle" title="User:Marcocapelle">Marcocapelle</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Marcocapelle" title="User talk:Marcocapelle">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2024_October_24#c-Marcocapelle-20241009054200-Early_abbots_by_century" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">05:42, 9 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Marcocapelle-20241009054200-Early_abbots_by_century"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241009054200","author":"Marcocapelle","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Marcocapelle-20241009054200-Early_abbots_by_century","replies":["c-Nederlandse_Leeuw-20241009055200-Marcocapelle-20241009054200"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Marcocapelle-20241009054200-Early_abbots_by_century"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Nederlandse_Leeuw-20241009055200-Marcocapelle-20241009054200"></span>Well first of all, why would you delete these categories rather than upmerging them to <a href="/wiki/Category:Medieval_abbots" title="Category:Medieval abbots">Category:Medieval abbots</a>? <a href="/wiki/User:Nederlandse_Leeuw" title="User:Nederlandse Leeuw">NLeeuw</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Nederlandse_Leeuw#top" title="User talk:Nederlandse Leeuw">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2024_October_24#c-Nederlandse_Leeuw-20241009055200-Marcocapelle-20241009054200" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">05:52, 9 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Nederlandse_Leeuw-20241009055200-Marcocapelle-20241009054200"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241009055200","author":"Nederlandse Leeuw","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Nederlandse_Leeuw-20241009055200-Marcocapelle-20241009054200","replies":[],"displayName":"NLeeuw"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Nederlandse_Leeuw-20241009055200-Marcocapelle-20241009054200"></span></dd></dl></li> <li><b><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Fayenatic_london-20241011102300-Early_abbots_by_century"></span>Keep</b>. Since these have subcats for both Irish and Christian abbots by century, and are part of e.g. <a href="/wiki/Category:12th-century_religious_leaders" title="Category:12th-century religious leaders">12th-century religious leaders</a> and <a href="/wiki/Category:12th-century_monks" title="Category:12th-century monks">12th-century monks</a>, it seems to me best to keep the hierarchy intact. – <a href="/wiki/User:Fayenatic_london" title="User:Fayenatic london">Fayenatic</a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Fayenatic_london" title="User talk:Fayenatic london"><b><span style="color:#FF0000;">L</span></b>ondon</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2024_October_24#c-Fayenatic_london-20241011102300-Early_abbots_by_century" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:23, 11 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Fayenatic_london-20241011102300-Early_abbots_by_century"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241011102300","author":"Fayenatic london","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Fayenatic_london-20241011102300-Early_abbots_by_century","replies":["c-Smasongarrison-20241011202400-Fayenatic_london-20241011102300"],"displayName":"Fayenatic"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Fayenatic_london-20241011102300-Early_abbots_by_century"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Smasongarrison-20241011202400-Fayenatic_london-20241011102300"></span>I think that Marco's point is that everyone in the Irish abbot tree is also a Christian abbot. I'd already tried to discuss this issue, but they're intentionally ignoring me. <a href="/wiki/User:Smasongarrison" title="User:Smasongarrison">Mason</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Smasongarrison" title="User talk:Smasongarrison">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2024_October_24#c-Smasongarrison-20241011202400-Fayenatic_london-20241011102300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:24, 11 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Smasongarrison-20241011202400-Fayenatic_london-20241011102300"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241011202400","author":"Smasongarrison","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Smasongarrison-20241011202400-Fayenatic_london-20241011102300","replies":["c-Fayenatic_london-20241016145000-Smasongarrison-20241011202400"],"displayName":"Mason"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Smasongarrison-20241011202400-Fayenatic_london-20241011102300"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Fayenatic_london-20241016145000-Smasongarrison-20241011202400"></span>Yes (to the first sentence), but we are not going to merge them because one is by nationality and one is by religion. Although for several centuries it would be factually correct to make Irish a subcat of Christian, that would be inconsistent with other parts of the hierarchies, and it would get messy to use that kind of parenting only where it fits. Even if there are some comparable precedents the other way, IMHO it's better to leave these as they are, i.e. siblings. Cf. the national Priests categories which we disambiguated by religion at <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2024_February_3#Priests_by_nationality" title="Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2024 February 3">Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2024_February_3#Priests_by_nationality</a>. Then, given that the nominated Abbots parents hold these pairs of subcats as opposed to single subcats, I would also keep those. – <a href="/wiki/User:Fayenatic_london" title="User:Fayenatic london">Fayenatic</a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Fayenatic_london" title="User talk:Fayenatic london"><b><span style="color:#FF0000;">L</span></b>ondon</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2024_October_24#c-Fayenatic_london-20241016145000-Smasongarrison-20241011202400" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:50, 16 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Fayenatic_london-20241016145000-Smasongarrison-20241011202400"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241016145000","author":"Fayenatic london","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Fayenatic_london-20241016145000-Smasongarrison-20241011202400","replies":["c-Smasongarrison-20241016202900-Fayenatic_london-20241016145000"],"displayName":"Fayenatic"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Fayenatic_london-20241016145000-Smasongarrison-20241011202400"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Smasongarrison-20241016202900-Fayenatic_london-20241016145000"></span>I agree with you. For all the reasons you've listed. I think that there's benefits for navigation, and just requires content expertise to navigate the categories. <a href="/wiki/User:Smasongarrison" title="User:Smasongarrison">Mason</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Smasongarrison" title="User talk:Smasongarrison">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2024_October_24#c-Smasongarrison-20241016202900-Fayenatic_london-20241016145000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:29, 16 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Smasongarrison-20241016202900-Fayenatic_london-20241016145000"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241016202900","author":"Smasongarrison","type":"comment","level":5,"id":"c-Smasongarrison-20241016202900-Fayenatic_london-20241016145000","replies":[],"displayName":"Mason"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Smasongarrison-20241016202900-Fayenatic_london-20241016145000"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></li></ul> <dl><dd><p class="xfd_relist" style="margin:0 0 0 -1em;border-top: 1px solid #AAA; border-bottom: 1px solid #AAA; padding: 0px 2em;"><span style="color: #FF6600;"><b><span style="font-size:91%;"><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Deletion_process#Relisting_discussions" title="Wikipedia:Deletion process"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-HouseBlaster-20241016012800-Early_abbots_by_century"></span>Relisted</a> to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.</span></b></span><br/><b>Relisting comment:</b> Merge, as suggested by NL?<br/><small>Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, <b><a href="/wiki/User:HouseBlaster" title="User:HouseBlaster">House</a><a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/HouseBlaster" title="Special:Contributions/HouseBlaster"><span style="color:#7D066B;">Blaster</span></a></b> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:HouseBlaster" title="User talk:HouseBlaster">talk</a> • he/they) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2024_October_24#c-HouseBlaster-20241016012800-Early_abbots_by_century" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">01:28, 16 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span data-mw-comment-end="c-HouseBlaster-20241016012800-Early_abbots_by_century"></span></small><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-HouseBlaster-20241016012800-Early_abbots_by_century"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241016012800","author":"HouseBlaster","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-HouseBlaster-20241016012800-Early_abbots_by_century","replies":[],"displayName":"House"}}--></span></p></dd></dl> <ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Marcocapelle-20241016061000-Early_abbots_by_century"></span>Apart from Byzantine abbots there isn't anything specifically medieval about abbots. Should we then also create a separate category for medieval Christian abbots, and for medieval Irish abbots? I don't think so, the century categories seem to suffice. Having said that, I have not nominated <a href="/wiki/Category:Medieval_abbots" title="Category:Medieval abbots">Category:Medieval abbots</a> and it's probably too late to add this now. <a href="/wiki/User:Marcocapelle" title="User:Marcocapelle">Marcocapelle</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Marcocapelle" title="User talk:Marcocapelle">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2024_October_24#c-Marcocapelle-20241016061000-Early_abbots_by_century" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">06:10, 16 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Marcocapelle-20241016061000-Early_abbots_by_century"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241016061000","author":"Marcocapelle","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Marcocapelle-20241016061000-Early_abbots_by_century","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Marcocapelle-20241016061000-Early_abbots_by_century"></span></li></ul> <dl><dd><p class="xfd_relist" style="margin:0 0 0 -1em;border-top: 1px solid #AAA; border-bottom: 1px solid #AAA; padding: 0px 2em;"><span style="color: #FF6600;"><b><span style="font-size:91%;"><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Deletion_process#Relisting_discussions" title="Wikipedia:Deletion process"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-HouseBlaster-20241024192300-Early_abbots_by_century"></span>Relisted</a> to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.</span></b></span><br/><small>Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, <b><a href="/wiki/User:HouseBlaster" title="User:HouseBlaster">House</a><a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/HouseBlaster" title="Special:Contributions/HouseBlaster"><span style="color:#7D066B;">Blaster</span></a></b> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:HouseBlaster" title="User talk:HouseBlaster">talk</a> • he/they) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2024_October_24#c-HouseBlaster-20241024192300-Early_abbots_by_century" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:23, 24 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span data-mw-comment-end="c-HouseBlaster-20241024192300-Early_abbots_by_century"></span></small><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-HouseBlaster-20241024192300-Early_abbots_by_century"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241024192300","author":"HouseBlaster","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-HouseBlaster-20241024192300-Early_abbots_by_century","replies":[],"displayName":"House"}}--></span></p></dd></dl> <hr/> <dl><dd><i>The above is preserved as an archive of the discussion. <span style="color:red"><b>Please do not modify it.</b></span> Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the category's <a href="/wiki/Help:Using_talk_pages" class="mw-redirect" title="Help:Using talk pages">talk page</a> or in a <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Deletion_review" title="Wikipedia:Deletion review">deletion review</a>). No further edits should be made to this section.</i></dd></dl></div> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading4"><h4 id="Category:Pages_using_the_JsonConfig_extension" data-mw-thread-id="h-Category:Pages_using_the_JsonConfig_extension-October_24-20241024192000"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Category:Pages_using_the_JsonConfig_extension-October_24-20241024192000"></span>Category:Pages using the JsonConfig extension<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Category:Pages_using_the_JsonConfig_extension-October_24-20241024192000"></span></h4><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2024_October_24&action=edit&section=7" title="Edit section: Category:Pages using the JsonConfig extension"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span></div> <div class="boilerplate cfd vfd xfd-closed mw-archivedtalk" style="background-color:#bff9fc; margin:0 auto; padding:0 10px 0 10px; border:1px solid #AAAAAA;"> <dl><dd><i><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-HouseBlaster-20241027015100-Category:Pages_using_the_JsonConfig_extension"></span>The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more categories. <span style="color:red"><b>Please do not modify it.</b></span> Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the category's <a href="/wiki/Help:Using_talk_pages" class="mw-redirect" title="Help:Using talk pages">talk page</a> or in a <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Deletion_review" title="Wikipedia:Deletion review">deletion review</a>). No further edits should be made to this section.</i></dd></dl> <dl><dd><i>The result of the discussion was:</i> <b>delete</b>. It is <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:SNOW" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:SNOW">WP:SNOWing</a> and because the category will continue to grow over the course of the week – making cleanup take longer – I am ending this one prematurely. <b><a href="/wiki/User:HouseBlaster" title="User:HouseBlaster">House</a><a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/HouseBlaster" title="Special:Contributions/HouseBlaster"><span style="color:#7D066B;">Blaster</span></a></b> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:HouseBlaster" title="User talk:HouseBlaster">talk</a> • he/they) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2024_October_24#c-HouseBlaster-20241027015100-Category:Pages_using_the_JsonConfig_extension" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">01:51, 27 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-HouseBlaster-20241027015100-Category:Pages_using_the_JsonConfig_extension"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241027015100","author":"HouseBlaster","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-HouseBlaster-20241027015100-Category:Pages_using_the_JsonConfig_extension","replies":[],"displayName":"House"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-HouseBlaster-20241027015100-Category:Pages_using_the_JsonConfig_extension"></span> <ul><li><b><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Pppery-20241024192000-Category:Pages_using_the_JsonConfig_extension"></span>Propose deleting</b> <span class="plainlinks nourlexpansion lx"><a href="/w/index.php?title=Category:Pages_using_the_JsonConfig_extension&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Category:Pages using the JsonConfig extension (page does not exist)">Category:Pages using the JsonConfig extension</a> <span style="font-size:90%;">(<a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Category:Pages_using_the_JsonConfig_extension&action=edit">edit</a> | <a href="/w/index.php?title=Category_talk:Pages_using_the_JsonConfig_extension&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Category talk:Pages using the JsonConfig extension (page does not exist)">talk</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Category:Pages_using_the_JsonConfig_extension&action=history">history</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Whatlinkshere/:Category:Pages_using_the_JsonConfig_extension">links</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Category:Pages_using_the_JsonConfig_extension&action=watch">watch</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Log&page=%3ACategory%3APages+using+the+JsonConfig+extension">logs</a>)</span></span></li></ul></dd> <dd><b>Nominator's rationale:</b> Pointless tracking category - will eventually include literally every <del>article</del><ins>page</ins> with a citation. To implement this deletion, create <a href="/wiki/MediaWiki:Jsonconfig-use-category" title="MediaWiki:Jsonconfig-use-category">MediaWIki:Jsonconfig-use-category</a> with the text <code>-</code>. <a href="/wiki/User:Pppery" title="User:Pppery">* Pppery *</a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Pppery" title="User talk:Pppery"><sub style="color:#800000">it has begun...</sub></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2024_October_24#c-Pppery-20241024192000-Category:Pages_using_the_JsonConfig_extension" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:20, 24 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Pppery-20241024192000-Category:Pages_using_the_JsonConfig_extension"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241024192000","author":"Pppery","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Pppery-20241024192000-Category:Pages_using_the_JsonConfig_extension","replies":[],"displayName":"* Pppery *"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Pppery-20241024192000-Category:Pages_using_the_JsonConfig_extension"></span></dd></dl> <ul><li><b><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Alfa-ketosav-20241024202300-Category:Pages_using_the_JsonConfig_extension"></span>Delete and implement deletion</b>. A really unnecessary tracking category: all articles with at least 1 citation go there – we already have a template (and a category as well) for those with no citations. Also, not only articles are affected: "Pages using the JsonConfig extension" also has a subcategory called <a href="/wiki/Category:New_York_City_Subway_station_articles_with_outdated_ridership_data" title="Category:New York City Subway station articles with outdated ridership data">New York City Subway station articles with outdated ridership data</a> and many templates and talk pages. <a href="/wiki/User:Alfa-ketosav" title="User:Alfa-ketosav">Alfa-ketosav</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Alfa-ketosav" title="User talk:Alfa-ketosav">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2024_October_24#c-Alfa-ketosav-20241024202300-Category:Pages_using_the_JsonConfig_extension" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:23, 24 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Alfa-ketosav-20241024202300-Category:Pages_using_the_JsonConfig_extension"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241024202300","author":"Alfa-ketosav","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Alfa-ketosav-20241024202300-Category:Pages_using_the_JsonConfig_extension","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Alfa-ketosav-20241024202300-Category:Pages_using_the_JsonConfig_extension"></span></li> <li><b><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Achmad_Rachmani-20241024224800-Category:Pages_using_the_JsonConfig_extension"></span>Delete</b> per Alfa-ketosav. <a href="/wiki/User:Achmad_Rachmani" title="User:Achmad Rachmani">Achmad Rachmani</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Achmad_Rachmani" title="User talk:Achmad Rachmani">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2024_October_24#c-Achmad_Rachmani-20241024224800-Category:Pages_using_the_JsonConfig_extension" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:48, 24 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Achmad_Rachmani-20241024224800-Category:Pages_using_the_JsonConfig_extension"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241024224800","author":"Achmad Rachmani","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Achmad_Rachmani-20241024224800-Category:Pages_using_the_JsonConfig_extension","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Achmad_Rachmani-20241024224800-Category:Pages_using_the_JsonConfig_extension"></span></li> <li><b><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Trailblazer101-20241025063400-Category:Pages_using_the_JsonConfig_extension"></span>Delete</b> per above. I recently saw this pop up on multiple article talk pages and noticed it also appeared in some files. I do not see the use of such a broad tracker. <a href="/wiki/User:Trailblazer101" title="User:Trailblazer101">Trailblazer101</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Trailblazer101" title="User talk:Trailblazer101">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2024_October_24#c-Trailblazer101-20241025063400-Category:Pages_using_the_JsonConfig_extension" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">06:34, 25 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Trailblazer101-20241025063400-Category:Pages_using_the_JsonConfig_extension"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241025063400","author":"Trailblazer101","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Trailblazer101-20241025063400-Category:Pages_using_the_JsonConfig_extension","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Trailblazer101-20241025063400-Category:Pages_using_the_JsonConfig_extension"></span></li> <li><b><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Rich_Farmbrough-20241025112000-Category:Pages_using_the_JsonConfig_extension"></span>Delete</b> not useful. All the best: <i><a href="/wiki/User:Rich_Farmbrough" title="User:Rich Farmbrough">Rich</a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Rich_Farmbrough" title="User talk:Rich Farmbrough">Farmbrough</a></i><small> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2024_October_24#c-Rich_Farmbrough-20241025112000-Category:Pages_using_the_JsonConfig_extension" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:20, 25 October 2024 (UTC)</a>.<span data-mw-comment-end="c-Rich_Farmbrough-20241025112000-Category:Pages_using_the_JsonConfig_extension"></span></small><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Rich_Farmbrough-20241025112000-Category:Pages_using_the_JsonConfig_extension"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241025112000","author":"Rich Farmbrough","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Rich_Farmbrough-20241025112000-Category:Pages_using_the_JsonConfig_extension","replies":["c-Rich_Farmbrough-20241026183200-Rich_Farmbrough-20241025112000"],"displayName":"Rich"}}--></span><br/> <ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Rich_Farmbrough-20241026183200-Rich_Farmbrough-20241025112000"></span>Note: This is happening everywhere by the look of it. I've been making the category hidden on other wikis, but maybe it needs WMF attention (if that's not an oxymoron). All the best: <i><a href="/wiki/User:Rich_Farmbrough" title="User:Rich Farmbrough">Rich</a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Rich_Farmbrough" title="User talk:Rich Farmbrough">Farmbrough</a></i><small> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2024_October_24#c-Rich_Farmbrough-20241026183200-Rich_Farmbrough-20241025112000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:32, 26 October 2024 (UTC)</a>.<span data-mw-comment-end="c-Rich_Farmbrough-20241026183200-Rich_Farmbrough-20241025112000"></span></small><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Rich_Farmbrough-20241026183200-Rich_Farmbrough-20241025112000"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241026183200","author":"Rich Farmbrough","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Rich_Farmbrough-20241026183200-Rich_Farmbrough-20241025112000","replies":[],"displayName":"Rich"}}--></span><br/></li></ul></li> <li><b><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-ClaudineChionh-20241026065100-Category:Pages_using_the_JsonConfig_extension"></span>Comment</b> is <i>that</i> why recent changes has been looking bonkers since yesterday? <b><a href="/wiki/User:ClaudineChionh" title="User:ClaudineChionh">ClaudineChionh</a></b> <small>(<i>she/her</i> · <a href="/wiki/User_talk:ClaudineChionh" title="User talk:ClaudineChionh">talk</a> · <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/ClaudineChionh" title="Special:Contributions/ClaudineChionh">contribs</a> · <a href="/wiki/Special:EmailUser/ClaudineChionh" title="Special:EmailUser/ClaudineChionh">email</a>)</small> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2024_October_24#c-ClaudineChionh-20241026065100-Category:Pages_using_the_JsonConfig_extension" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">06:51, 26 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-ClaudineChionh-20241026065100-Category:Pages_using_the_JsonConfig_extension"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241026065100","author":"ClaudineChionh","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-ClaudineChionh-20241026065100-Category:Pages_using_the_JsonConfig_extension","replies":["c-Pppery-20241026153700-ClaudineChionh-20241026065100"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-ClaudineChionh-20241026065100-Category:Pages_using_the_JsonConfig_extension"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Pppery-20241026153700-ClaudineChionh-20241026065100"></span>Not sure what this would have to do with recent changes - normally implicit category additions don't show there. <a href="/wiki/User:Pppery" title="User:Pppery">* Pppery *</a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Pppery" title="User talk:Pppery"><sub style="color:#800000">it has begun...</sub></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2024_October_24#c-Pppery-20241026153700-ClaudineChionh-20241026065100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:37, 26 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Pppery-20241026153700-ClaudineChionh-20241026065100"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241026153700","author":"Pppery","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Pppery-20241026153700-ClaudineChionh-20241026065100","replies":["c-ClaudineChionh-20241027000600-Pppery-20241026153700"],"displayName":"* Pppery *"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Pppery-20241026153700-ClaudineChionh-20241026065100"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-ClaudineChionh-20241027000600-Pppery-20241026153700"></span><figure class="mw-default-size" typeof="mw:File/Thumb"><a href="/wiki/File:202410262352-ENWP-RC-ClaudineChionh.jpg" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/4/41/202410262352-ENWP-RC-ClaudineChionh.jpg/220px-202410262352-ENWP-RC-ClaudineChionh.jpg" decoding="async" width="220" height="128" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/4/41/202410262352-ENWP-RC-ClaudineChionh.jpg/330px-202410262352-ENWP-RC-ClaudineChionh.jpg 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/4/41/202410262352-ENWP-RC-ClaudineChionh.jpg/440px-202410262352-ENWP-RC-ClaudineChionh.jpg 2x" data-file-width="2104" data-file-height="1222"/></a><figcaption>Screenshot of Recent changes on English Wikipedia, with many changes related to <a href="/w/index.php?title=Category:Pages_using_the_JsonConfig_extension&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Category:Pages using the JsonConfig extension (page does not exist)">w:en:category:Pages using the JsonConfig extension</a></figcaption></figure></dd> <dd>That's why I thought this was weird, I have checked the "Hide categorization of pages" preferences. I'll try resetting my RC settings to default. <b><a href="/wiki/User:ClaudineChionh" title="User:ClaudineChionh">ClaudineChionh</a></b> <small>(<i>she/her</i> · <a href="/wiki/User_talk:ClaudineChionh" title="User talk:ClaudineChionh">talk</a> · <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/ClaudineChionh" title="Special:Contributions/ClaudineChionh">contribs</a> · <a href="/wiki/Special:EmailUser/ClaudineChionh" title="Special:EmailUser/ClaudineChionh">email</a>)</small> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2024_October_24#c-ClaudineChionh-20241027000600-Pppery-20241026153700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:06, 27 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-ClaudineChionh-20241027000600-Pppery-20241026153700"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241027000600","author":"ClaudineChionh","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-ClaudineChionh-20241027000600-Pppery-20241026153700","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-ClaudineChionh-20241027000600-Pppery-20241026153700"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></li> <li><b><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Matthewrb-20241026172300-Category:Pages_using_the_JsonConfig_extension"></span>Delete</b> According to <span class="nowrap">{{</span><a href="/wiki/Template:Tracking_category" title="Template:Tracking category">Tracking category</a><span class="nowrap">}}</span>, the purpose of this category is to "[..] track, build and organize lists of pages needing "attention en masse" (for example, pages using deprecated syntax), or that may need to be edited at someone's earliest convenience." This category is not collecting anything actionable (unless we want to delete all of the citations on Wikipedia<sup class="noprint Inline-Template" title="" style="white-space:nowrap;">[<i><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Sarcasm_is_really_helpful" title="Wikipedia:Sarcasm is really helpful">sarcasm</a></i>]</sup>) so its usefulness is very limited. ~ <a href="/wiki/User:Matthewrb" title="User:Matthewrb"> <span style="color:#5e0231;">Matthewrb</span></a> <sup><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Matthewrb" title="User talk:Matthewrb"> <span style="color:#e6af4b;">Talk to me</span></a> · <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Matthewrb" title="Special:Contributions/Matthewrb"> <span style="color:#111eb8;">Changes I've made</span></a></sup> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2024_October_24#c-Matthewrb-20241026172300-Category:Pages_using_the_JsonConfig_extension" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:23, 26 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Matthewrb-20241026172300-Category:Pages_using_the_JsonConfig_extension"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241026172300","author":"Matthewrb","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Matthewrb-20241026172300-Category:Pages_using_the_JsonConfig_extension","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Matthewrb-20241026172300-Category:Pages_using_the_JsonConfig_extension"></span></li> <li><b><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Queen_of_Hearts-20241026194300-Category:Pages_using_the_JsonConfig_extension"></span>Delete</b> per nom, <span class="cleanup-needed-content" style="padding-left:0.1em; padding-right:0.1em; color:var(--color-subtle, #54595d); border:1px solid var(--border-color-subtle, #c8ccd1);">or rename to <a href="/w/index.php?title=Category:Pages_with_citations&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Category:Pages with citations (page does not exist)">Category:Pages with citations</a>.</span><sup class="noprint Inline-Template" style="margin-left:0.1em; white-space:nowrap;">[<i><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:JOKE" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:JOKE"><span title="This is not meant to be taken seriously.">Joke</span></a></i>]</sup> <span style="color:#1E90FF;">Charlotte</span> (<a href="/wiki/User:Queen_of_Hearts" class="mw-redirect" title="User:Queen of Hearts"><span style="color:#BC64E8;">Queen of Hearts</span></a> • <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Queen_of_Hearts" title="User talk:Queen of Hearts"><span style="color:#FF1493;">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2024_October_24#c-Queen_of_Hearts-20241026194300-Category:Pages_using_the_JsonConfig_extension" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:43, 26 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Queen_of_Hearts-20241026194300-Category:Pages_using_the_JsonConfig_extension"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241026194300","author":"Queen of Hearts","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Queen_of_Hearts-20241026194300-Category:Pages_using_the_JsonConfig_extension","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Queen_of_Hearts-20241026194300-Category:Pages_using_the_JsonConfig_extension"></span></li></ul> <hr/> <dl><dd><i>The above is preserved as an archive of the discussion. <span style="color:red"><b>Please do not modify it.</b></span> Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the category's <a href="/wiki/Help:Using_talk_pages" class="mw-redirect" title="Help:Using talk pages">talk page</a> or in a <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Deletion_review" title="Wikipedia:Deletion review">deletion review</a>). No further edits should be made to this section.</i></dd></dl></div> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading4"><h4 id="Category:Society_of_Ukrainian_Progressors_members" data-mw-thread-id="h-Category:Society_of_Ukrainian_Progressors_members-October_24-20241008214100"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Category:Society_of_Ukrainian_Progressors_members-October_24-20241008214100"></span>Category:Society of Ukrainian Progressors members<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Category:Society_of_Ukrainian_Progressors_members-October_24-20241008214100"></span></h4><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2024_October_24&action=edit&section=8" title="Edit section: Category:Society of Ukrainian Progressors members"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span></div> <div class="boilerplate cfd vfd xfd-closed mw-archivedtalk" style="background-color:#bff9fc; margin:0 auto; padding:0 10px 0 10px; border:1px solid #AAAAAA;"> <dl><dd><i><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-HouseBlaster-20241101003300-Category:Society_of_Ukrainian_Progressors_members"></span>The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more categories. <span style="color:red"><b>Please do not modify it.</b></span> Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the category's <a href="/wiki/Help:Using_talk_pages" class="mw-redirect" title="Help:Using talk pages">talk page</a> or in a <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Deletion_review" title="Wikipedia:Deletion review">deletion review</a>). No further edits should be made to this section.</i></dd></dl> <dl><dd><i>The result of the discussion was:</i> <b>delete</b>. There is unanimous agreement that the category in its current form is unsustainable. Unfortunately, there is no clear consensus on what the appropriate change should be. In these circumstances, a <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:BARTENDER" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:BARTENDER">WP:BARTENDER</a> close is usually applicable; when there is a debate between renaming and deletion, the <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:ATD" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:ATD">alternative</a> usually is the bartender's choice. However, given the rename option was really "repurpose the existing category" and it was raised late in the discussion, I find that there is BARTENDER-consensus to delete the category. If anyone wishes to manually add any of the members to other categories (such as <a href="/wiki/Category:Ukrainian_Democratic_Party_(1904)_politicians" title="Category:Ukrainian Democratic Party (1904) politicians">Category:Ukrainian Democratic Party (1904) politicians</a>), they are welcome to (while, of course, observing policies such as <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:CATV" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:CATV">WP:CATV</a>). The current members of the category are <a href="/wiki/Dmytro_Doroshenko" title="Dmytro Doroshenko">Dmytro Doroshenko</a>, <a href="/wiki/Mykhailo_Hrushevsky" title="Mykhailo Hrushevsky">Mykhailo Hrushevsky</a>, <a href="/wiki/Symon_Petliura" title="Symon Petliura">Symon Petliura</a>, <a href="/wiki/Mykola_Vasylenko" title="Mykola Vasylenko">Mykola Vasylenko</a>, <a href="/wiki/Volodymyr_Vynnychenko" title="Volodymyr Vynnychenko">Volodymyr Vynnychenko</a>, and <a href="/wiki/Serhiy_Yefremov" title="Serhiy Yefremov">Serhiy Yefremov</a>. <b><a href="/wiki/User:HouseBlaster" title="User:HouseBlaster">House</a><a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/HouseBlaster" title="Special:Contributions/HouseBlaster"><span style="color:#7D066B;">Blaster</span></a></b> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:HouseBlaster" title="User talk:HouseBlaster">talk</a> • he/they) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2024_October_24#c-HouseBlaster-20241101003300-Category:Society_of_Ukrainian_Progressors_members" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:33, 1 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-HouseBlaster-20241101003300-Category:Society_of_Ukrainian_Progressors_members"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241101003300","author":"HouseBlaster","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-HouseBlaster-20241101003300-Category:Society_of_Ukrainian_Progressors_members","replies":[],"displayName":"House"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-HouseBlaster-20241101003300-Category:Society_of_Ukrainian_Progressors_members"></span> <ul><li><b><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Altenmann-20241008214100-Category:Society_of_Ukrainian_Progressors_members"></span>Propose deleting</b> <span class="plainlinks nourlexpansion lx"><a href="/w/index.php?title=Category:Society_of_Ukrainian_Progressors_members&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Category:Society of Ukrainian Progressors members (page does not exist)">Category:Society of Ukrainian Progressors members</a> <span style="font-size:90%;">(<a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Category:Society_of_Ukrainian_Progressors_members&action=edit">edit</a> | <a href="/w/index.php?title=Category_talk:Society_of_Ukrainian_Progressors_members&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Category talk:Society of Ukrainian Progressors members (page does not exist)">talk</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Category:Society_of_Ukrainian_Progressors_members&action=history">history</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Whatlinkshere/:Category:Society_of_Ukrainian_Progressors_members">links</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Category:Society_of_Ukrainian_Progressors_members&action=watch">watch</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Log&page=%3ACategory%3ASociety+of+Ukrainian+Progressors+members">logs</a>)</span></span></li></ul></dd> <dd><b>Nominator's rationale:</b> Emptied: no refs. No such society. Mistranslation? --<a href="/wiki/User:Altenmann" title="User:Altenmann">Altenmann</a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Altenmann" title="User talk:Altenmann">>talk</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2024_October_24#c-Altenmann-20241008214100-Category:Society_of_Ukrainian_Progressors_members" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:41, 8 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Altenmann-20241008214100-Category:Society_of_Ukrainian_Progressors_members"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241008214100","author":"Altenmann","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Altenmann-20241008214100-Category:Society_of_Ukrainian_Progressors_members","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Altenmann-20241008214100-Category:Society_of_Ukrainian_Progressors_members"></span></dd></dl> <ul><li><b><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Liz-20241008233500-Category:Society_of_Ukrainian_Progressors_members"></span>Comment</b> This is an empty category, it doesn't need a discussion. Next time, consider tagging it CSD C1. <span style="font-family:Papyrus; color:#800080;"><a href="/wiki/User:Liz" title="User:Liz"><i><b>L</b></i>iz</a></span> <sup style="font-family: Times New Roman; color: #006400;"><a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Liz" title="Special:Contributions/Liz"><i><b>Read!</b></i></a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Liz" title="User talk:Liz"><i><b>Talk!</b></i></a></sup> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2024_October_24#c-Liz-20241008233500-Category:Society_of_Ukrainian_Progressors_members" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:35, 8 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Liz-20241008233500-Category:Society_of_Ukrainian_Progressors_members"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241008233500","author":"Liz","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Liz-20241008233500-Category:Society_of_Ukrainian_Progressors_members","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Liz-20241008233500-Category:Society_of_Ukrainian_Progressors_members"></span></li> <li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Marcocapelle-20241009053600-Category:Society_of_Ukrainian_Progressors_members"></span>Next time, consider not emptying the category beforehand. Discussion can be useful when you know which articles were in there. <a href="/wiki/User:Marcocapelle" title="User:Marcocapelle">Marcocapelle</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Marcocapelle" title="User talk:Marcocapelle">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2024_October_24#c-Marcocapelle-20241009053600-Category:Society_of_Ukrainian_Progressors_members" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">05:36, 9 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Marcocapelle-20241009053600-Category:Society_of_Ukrainian_Progressors_members"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241009053600","author":"Marcocapelle","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Marcocapelle-20241009053600-Category:Society_of_Ukrainian_Progressors_members","replies":["c-Smasongarrison-20241009223400-Marcocapelle-20241009053600"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Marcocapelle-20241009053600-Category:Society_of_Ukrainian_Progressors_members"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Smasongarrison-20241009223400-Marcocapelle-20241009053600"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:Altenmann" title="User:Altenmann">Altenmann</a>, I'm going to say it more bluntly. Please don't empty categories like this. We can't tell if there's a mistranslation or if the category has sources in another language, if we don't know who was in it. <a href="/wiki/User:Smasongarrison" title="User:Smasongarrison">Mason</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Smasongarrison" title="User talk:Smasongarrison">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2024_October_24#c-Smasongarrison-20241009223400-Marcocapelle-20241009053600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:34, 9 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Smasongarrison-20241009223400-Marcocapelle-20241009053600"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241009223400","author":"Smasongarrison","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Smasongarrison-20241009223400-Marcocapelle-20241009053600","replies":[],"displayName":"Mason"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Smasongarrison-20241009223400-Marcocapelle-20241009053600"></span></dd></dl></li> <li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Fayenatic_london-20241011103900-Category:Society_of_Ukrainian_Progressors_members"></span>I support the comments of <a href="/wiki/User:Marcocapelle" title="User:Marcocapelle">Marcocapelle</a> and <a href="/wiki/User:Smasongarrison" title="User:Smasongarrison">Mason</a>. For the record, the six biographies removed out-of-process by <a href="/wiki/User:Altenmann" title="User:Altenmann">Altenmann</a> are here: <a class="external autonumber" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Contributions/Altenmann&target=Altenmann&offset=20241008214213&limit=9">[1]</a>. <s>Maybe the last word should be "progressionists" like <a class="external autonumber" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Alois_Ra%C5%A1%C3%ADn&diff=prev&oldid=1250170734">[2]</a>.</s> – <a href="/wiki/User:Fayenatic_london" title="User:Fayenatic london">Fayenatic</a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Fayenatic_london" title="User talk:Fayenatic london"><b><span style="color:#FF0000;">L</span></b>ondon</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2024_October_24#c-Fayenatic_london-20241011103900-Category:Society_of_Ukrainian_Progressors_members" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:39, 11 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Fayenatic_london-20241011103900-Category:Society_of_Ukrainian_Progressors_members"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241011103900","author":"Fayenatic london","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Fayenatic_london-20241011103900-Category:Society_of_Ukrainian_Progressors_members","replies":["c-Altenmann-20241011162300-Fayenatic_london-20241011103900"],"displayName":"Fayenatic"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Fayenatic_london-20241011103900-Category:Society_of_Ukrainian_Progressors_members"></span> <ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Altenmann-20241011162300-Fayenatic_london-20241011103900"></span>What's this "out-of-process" nonsense? The removed categories in bios were not supported by sources. Aren't we forgetting our most fundamental rule? --<a href="/wiki/User:Altenmann" title="User:Altenmann">Altenmann</a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Altenmann" title="User talk:Altenmann">>talk</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2024_October_24#c-Altenmann-20241011162300-Fayenatic_london-20241011103900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:23, 11 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Altenmann-20241011162300-Fayenatic_london-20241011103900"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241011162300","author":"Altenmann","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Altenmann-20241011162300-Fayenatic_london-20241011103900","replies":["c-Smasongarrison-20241011201600-Altenmann-20241011162300"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Altenmann-20241011162300-Fayenatic_london-20241011103900"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Smasongarrison-20241011201600-Altenmann-20241011162300"></span>You really need to consider the feedback you're getting here. "The removed categories in bios were not supported by sources." That's the problem. You removed them so how do you expect the CFD to go? I've rolled back the removal so other people can actually evaluate the category contents. <a href="/wiki/User:Smasongarrison" title="User:Smasongarrison">Mason</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Smasongarrison" title="User talk:Smasongarrison">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2024_October_24#c-Smasongarrison-20241011201600-Altenmann-20241011162300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:16, 11 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Smasongarrison-20241011201600-Altenmann-20241011162300"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241011201600","author":"Smasongarrison","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Smasongarrison-20241011201600-Altenmann-20241011162300","replies":["c-Altenmann-20241011203800-Smasongarrison-20241011201600","c-Altenmann-20241011203200-Smasongarrison-20241011201600"],"displayName":"Mason"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Smasongarrison-20241011201600-Altenmann-20241011162300"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Altenmann-20241011203800-Smasongarrison-20241011201600"></span>"how do you expect the CFD to go?" - easily. Check in Wikipedia or in the internets whether such society exists or existed. --<a href="/wiki/User:Altenmann" title="User:Altenmann">Altenmann</a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Altenmann" title="User talk:Altenmann">>talk</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2024_October_24#c-Altenmann-20241011203800-Smasongarrison-20241011201600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:38, 11 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Altenmann-20241011203800-Smasongarrison-20241011201600"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241011203800","author":"Altenmann","type":"comment","level":5,"id":"c-Altenmann-20241011203800-Smasongarrison-20241011201600","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Altenmann-20241011203800-Smasongarrison-20241011201600"></span></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Altenmann-20241011203200-Smasongarrison-20241011201600"></span>Your reversal is a blatant violation of Wikipedia rules: <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:AGF" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:AGF">WP:AGF</a> and <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:V" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:V">WP:V</a> <b>unreferenced information can be deleted at any time</b>. Here are the bios in question, if someone questions my senses:</dd></dl></dd></dl></li></ul></li></ul> <p> 13:16 Smasongarrison talk contribs (Dmytro Doroshenko added to category, this page is included within other pages) diffhist </p> <pre> 13:16 Smasongarrison talk contribs (Mykhailo Hrushevsky added to category, this page is included within other pages) diffhist 13:16 Smasongarrison talk contribs (Mykola Vasylenko added to category, this page is included within other pages) diffhist 13:16 Smasongarrison talk contribs (Symon Petliura added to category, this page is included within other pages) diffhist 13:16 Smasongarrison talk contribs (Serhiy Yefremov added to category, this page is included within other pages) diffhist 13:16 Smasongarrison talk contribs (Volodymyr Vynnychenko added to category, this page is included within other pages) diffhist </pre> <ul><li><ul><li><dl><dd><dl><dd>Meanwhile I am restoring my deletions done in total agreement with Wikipedia rules. --<a href="/wiki/User:Altenmann" title="User:Altenmann">Altenmann</a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Altenmann" title="User talk:Altenmann">>talk</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2024_October_24#c-Altenmann-20241011203200-Smasongarrison-20241011201600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:32, 11 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Altenmann-20241011203200-Smasongarrison-20241011201600"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241011203200","author":"Altenmann","type":"comment","level":5,"id":"c-Altenmann-20241011203200-Smasongarrison-20241011201600","replies":["c-Smasongarrison-20241012001700-Altenmann-20241011203200"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Altenmann-20241011203200-Smasongarrison-20241011201600"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Smasongarrison-20241012001700-Altenmann-20241011203200"></span>I don't understand why you even brought this up for CFD if you are just going to make it difficult for wikipedians to temporarily evaluate the category. I've reverted the change and ask that you be patient. You're the one who made the nomination. <a href="/wiki/User:Smasongarrison" title="User:Smasongarrison">Mason</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Smasongarrison" title="User talk:Smasongarrison">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2024_October_24#c-Smasongarrison-20241012001700-Altenmann-20241011203200" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:17, 12 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Smasongarrison-20241012001700-Altenmann-20241011203200"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241012001700","author":"Smasongarrison","type":"comment","level":6,"id":"c-Smasongarrison-20241012001700-Altenmann-20241011203200","replies":[],"displayName":"Mason"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Smasongarrison-20241012001700-Altenmann-20241011203200"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></li></ul></li> <li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Fayenatic_london-20241011110500-Category:Society_of_Ukrainian_Progressors_members"></span>The last word should be "Progressives", see <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Aleksandr_Grigoryev#Category:Society_of_Ukrainian_Progressors_members" title="User talk:Aleksandr Grigoryev">User_talk:Aleksandr_Grigoryev#Category:Society_of_Ukrainian_Progressors_members</a>. But in the same discussion, the category's creator accepts deletion. – <a href="/wiki/User:Fayenatic_london" title="User:Fayenatic london">Fayenatic</a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Fayenatic_london" title="User talk:Fayenatic london"><b><span style="color:#FF0000;">L</span></b>ondon</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2024_October_24#c-Fayenatic_london-20241011110500-Category:Society_of_Ukrainian_Progressors_members" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:05, 11 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Fayenatic_london-20241011110500-Category:Society_of_Ukrainian_Progressors_members"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241011110500","author":"Fayenatic london","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Fayenatic_london-20241011110500-Category:Society_of_Ukrainian_Progressors_members","replies":["c-Smasongarrison-20241012001900-Fayenatic_london-20241011110500"],"displayName":"Fayenatic"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Fayenatic_london-20241011110500-Category:Society_of_Ukrainian_Progressors_members"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Smasongarrison-20241012001900-Fayenatic_london-20241011110500"></span>That's helpful to know. From that conversation it seems like <b>merge to Category:Ukrainian_Democratic_Party_(1904)_politicians</b> is a viable solution. <a href="/wiki/User:Smasongarrison" title="User:Smasongarrison">Mason</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Smasongarrison" title="User talk:Smasongarrison">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2024_October_24#c-Smasongarrison-20241012001900-Fayenatic_london-20241011110500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:19, 12 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Smasongarrison-20241012001900-Fayenatic_london-20241011110500"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241012001900","author":"Smasongarrison","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Smasongarrison-20241012001900-Fayenatic_london-20241011110500","replies":["c-Altenmann-20241016031000-Smasongarrison-20241012001900"],"displayName":"Mason"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Smasongarrison-20241012001900-Fayenatic_london-20241011110500"></span> <ul><li><b><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Altenmann-20241016031000-Smasongarrison-20241012001900"></span>No</b>; these are not the same establishments. YOu cannot categorize unless the articles say so that they are, i.e., you cannot do an automatic merge. --<a href="/wiki/User:Altenmann" title="User:Altenmann">Altenmann</a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Altenmann" title="User talk:Altenmann">>talk</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2024_October_24#c-Altenmann-20241016031000-Smasongarrison-20241012001900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">03:10, 16 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Altenmann-20241016031000-Smasongarrison-20241012001900"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241016031000","author":"Altenmann","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Altenmann-20241016031000-Smasongarrison-20241012001900","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Altenmann-20241016031000-Smasongarrison-20241012001900"></span></li></ul></dd></dl></li></ul> <dl><dd><p class="xfd_relist" style="margin:0 0 0 -1em;border-top: 1px solid #AAA; border-bottom: 1px solid #AAA; padding: 0px 2em;"><span style="color: #FF6600;"><b><span style="font-size:91%;"><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Deletion_process#Relisting_discussions" title="Wikipedia:Deletion process"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-HouseBlaster-20241016011000-Category:Society_of_Ukrainian_Progressors_members"></span>Relisted</a> to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.</span></b></span><br/><b>Relisting comment:</b> Now that the premature emptying issue is resolved, do people support a merge to <a href="/wiki/Category:Ukrainian_Democratic_Party_(1904)_politicians" title="Category:Ukrainian Democratic Party (1904) politicians">Category:Ukrainian Democratic Party (1904) politicians</a> (as suggested by Mason)?<br/><small>Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, <b><a href="/wiki/User:HouseBlaster" title="User:HouseBlaster">House</a><a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/HouseBlaster" title="Special:Contributions/HouseBlaster"><span style="color:#7D066B;">Blaster</span></a></b> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:HouseBlaster" title="User talk:HouseBlaster">talk</a> • he/they) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2024_October_24#c-HouseBlaster-20241016011000-Category:Society_of_Ukrainian_Progressors_members" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">01:10, 16 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span data-mw-comment-end="c-HouseBlaster-20241016011000-Category:Society_of_Ukrainian_Progressors_members"></span></small><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-HouseBlaster-20241016011000-Category:Society_of_Ukrainian_Progressors_members"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241016011000","author":"HouseBlaster","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-HouseBlaster-20241016011000-Category:Society_of_Ukrainian_Progressors_members","replies":[],"displayName":"House"}}--></span></p></dd></dl> <ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Marcocapelle-20241016051300-Category:Society_of_Ukrainian_Progressors_members"></span>It is not clear to me whether these two organizations were interconnected or synonomous. By all means add articles to <a href="/wiki/Category:Ukrainian_Democratic_Party_(1904)_politicians" title="Category:Ukrainian Democratic Party (1904) politicians">Category:Ukrainian Democratic Party (1904) politicians</a> insofar they mention membership of that party. <a href="/wiki/User:Marcocapelle" title="User:Marcocapelle">Marcocapelle</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Marcocapelle" title="User talk:Marcocapelle">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2024_October_24#c-Marcocapelle-20241016051300-Category:Society_of_Ukrainian_Progressors_members" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">05:13, 16 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Marcocapelle-20241016051300-Category:Society_of_Ukrainian_Progressors_members"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241016051300","author":"Marcocapelle","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Marcocapelle-20241016051300-Category:Society_of_Ukrainian_Progressors_members","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Marcocapelle-20241016051300-Category:Society_of_Ukrainian_Progressors_members"></span></li></ul> <dl><dd><p class="xfd_relist" style="margin:0 0 0 -1em;border-top: 1px solid #AAA; border-bottom: 1px solid #AAA; padding: 0px 2em;"><span style="color: #FF6600;"><b><span style="font-size:91%;"><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Deletion_process#Relisting_discussions" title="Wikipedia:Deletion process"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-HouseBlaster-20241024190000-Category:Society_of_Ukrainian_Progressors_members"></span>Relisted</a> to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.</span></b></span><br/><b>Relisting comment:</b> I am not seeing anyone who supports the category's continued existence, so discussion on whether it should be deleted or merged is needed.<br/><small>Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, <b><a href="/wiki/User:HouseBlaster" title="User:HouseBlaster">House</a><a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/HouseBlaster" title="Special:Contributions/HouseBlaster"><span style="color:#7D066B;">Blaster</span></a></b> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:HouseBlaster" title="User talk:HouseBlaster">talk</a> • he/they) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2024_October_24#c-HouseBlaster-20241024190000-Category:Society_of_Ukrainian_Progressors_members" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:00, 24 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span data-mw-comment-end="c-HouseBlaster-20241024190000-Category:Society_of_Ukrainian_Progressors_members"></span></small><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-HouseBlaster-20241024190000-Category:Society_of_Ukrainian_Progressors_members"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241024190000","author":"HouseBlaster","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-HouseBlaster-20241024190000-Category:Society_of_Ukrainian_Progressors_members","replies":[],"displayName":"House"}}--></span></p></dd></dl> <ul><li><b><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Rich_Farmbrough-20241026185500-Category:Society_of_Ukrainian_Progressors_members"></span>Rename?</b> Appears to be <a class="external text" href="https://uk.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%A2%D0%BE%D0%B2%D0%B0%D1%80%D0%B8%D1%81%D1%82%D0%B2%D0%BE_%D1%83%D0%BA%D1%80%D0%B0%D1%97%D0%BD%D1%81%D1%8C%D0%BA%D0%B8%D1%85_%D0%BF%D0%BE%D1%81%D1%82%D1%83%D0%BF%D0%BE%D0%B2%D1%86%D1%96%D0%B2">Товариство_українських_поступовців</a> for which we don't have an article, although we have the inaccurate(?) redirect: <a href="/wiki/Society_of_Ukrainian_Progressionists" class="mw-redirect" title="Society of Ukrainian Progressionists">Society of Ukrainian Progressionists</a>. I would suggest "Progressives" as the term, [as Feynetic says above] but perhaps we could get advice from someone with strong Ukrainian skills. Also it would be nice to have at least a stub article. All the best: <i><a href="/wiki/User:Rich_Farmbrough" title="User:Rich Farmbrough">Rich</a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Rich_Farmbrough" title="User talk:Rich Farmbrough">Farmbrough</a></i><small> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2024_October_24#c-Rich_Farmbrough-20241026185500-Category:Society_of_Ukrainian_Progressors_members" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:55, 26 October 2024 (UTC)</a>.<span data-mw-comment-end="c-Rich_Farmbrough-20241026185500-Category:Society_of_Ukrainian_Progressors_members"></span></small><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Rich_Farmbrough-20241026185500-Category:Society_of_Ukrainian_Progressors_members"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241026185500","author":"Rich Farmbrough","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Rich_Farmbrough-20241026185500-Category:Society_of_Ukrainian_Progressors_members","replies":[],"displayName":"Rich"}}--></span><br/></li></ul> <p><b><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Altenmann-20241028004200-Category:Society_of_Ukrainian_Progressors_members"></span><sigh> Comment.</b> The discussion is thoroughly derailed. <b>Not a single person</b> in this category has refs that confirm the classification. Hence the deletion in the first place. --<a href="/wiki/User:Altenmann" title="User:Altenmann">Altenmann</a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Altenmann" title="User talk:Altenmann">>talk</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2024_October_24#c-Altenmann-20241028004200-Category:Society_of_Ukrainian_Progressors_members" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:42, 28 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Altenmann-20241028004200-Category:Society_of_Ukrainian_Progressors_members"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241028004200","author":"Altenmann","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Altenmann-20241028004200-Category:Society_of_Ukrainian_Progressors_members","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Altenmann-20241028004200-Category:Society_of_Ukrainian_Progressors_members"></span> </p> <hr/> <dl><dd><i>The above is preserved as an archive of the discussion. <span style="color:red"><b>Please do not modify it.</b></span> Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the category's <a href="/wiki/Help:Using_talk_pages" class="mw-redirect" title="Help:Using talk pages">talk page</a> or in a <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Deletion_review" title="Wikipedia:Deletion review">deletion review</a>). No further edits should be made to this section.</i></dd></dl></div> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading4"><h4 id="Category:Second_ladies_and_gentlemen_of_the_Philippines" data-mw-thread-id="h-Category:Second_ladies_and_gentlemen_of_the_Philippines-October_24-20241008022400"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Category:Second_ladies_and_gentlemen_of_the_Philippines-October_24-20241008022400"></span>Category:Second ladies and gentlemen of the Philippines<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Category:Second_ladies_and_gentlemen_of_the_Philippines-October_24-20241008022400"></span></h4><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2024_October_24&action=edit&section=9" title="Edit section: Category:Second ladies and gentlemen of the Philippines"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span></div> <div class="boilerplate cfd vfd xfd-closed mw-archivedtalk" style="background-color:#bff9fc; margin:0 auto; padding:0 10px 0 10px; border:1px solid #AAAAAA;"> <dl><dd><i><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-HouseBlaster-20241031234500-Category:Second_ladies_and_gentlemen_of_the_Philippines"></span>The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more categories. <span style="color:red"><b>Please do not modify it.</b></span> Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the category's <a href="/wiki/Help:Using_talk_pages" class="mw-redirect" title="Help:Using talk pages">talk page</a> or in a <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Deletion_review" title="Wikipedia:Deletion review">deletion review</a>). No further edits should be made to this section.</i></dd></dl> <dl><dd><i>The result of the discussion was:</i> <b>no consensus</b>. <b><a href="/wiki/User:HouseBlaster" title="User:HouseBlaster">House</a><a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/HouseBlaster" title="Special:Contributions/HouseBlaster"><span style="color:#7D066B;">Blaster</span></a></b> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:HouseBlaster" title="User talk:HouseBlaster">talk</a> • he/they) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2024_October_24#c-HouseBlaster-20241031234500-Category:Second_ladies_and_gentlemen_of_the_Philippines" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:45, 31 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-HouseBlaster-20241031234500-Category:Second_ladies_and_gentlemen_of_the_Philippines"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241031234500","author":"HouseBlaster","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-HouseBlaster-20241031234500-Category:Second_ladies_and_gentlemen_of_the_Philippines","replies":[],"displayName":"House"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-HouseBlaster-20241031234500-Category:Second_ladies_and_gentlemen_of_the_Philippines"></span> <ul><li><b><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Hariboneagle927-20241008022400-Category:Second_ladies_and_gentlemen_of_the_Philippines"></span>Propose deleting</b> <span class="plainlinks nourlexpansion lx"><a href="/wiki/Category:Second_ladies_and_gentlemen_of_the_Philippines" title="Category:Second ladies and gentlemen of the Philippines">Category:Second ladies and gentlemen of the Philippines</a> <span style="font-size:90%;">(<a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Category:Second_ladies_and_gentlemen_of_the_Philippines&action=edit">edit</a> | <a href="/wiki/Category_talk:Second_ladies_and_gentlemen_of_the_Philippines" title="Category talk:Second ladies and gentlemen of the Philippines">talk</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Category:Second_ladies_and_gentlemen_of_the_Philippines&action=history">history</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Whatlinkshere/:Category:Second_ladies_and_gentlemen_of_the_Philippines">links</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Category:Second_ladies_and_gentlemen_of_the_Philippines&action=watch">watch</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Log&page=%3ACategory%3ASecond+ladies+and+gentlemen+of+the+Philippines">logs</a>)</span></span></li></ul></dd> <dd><b>Nominator's rationale:</b> <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:NEOLOGISM" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:NEOLOGISM">WP:NEOLOGISM</a>, Second Ladies are not a thing in Philippine politics. We are not like the United States <a href="/wiki/Second_ladies_and_gentlemen_of_the_United_States" title="Second ladies and gentlemen of the United States">which uses such term</a>. Second Ladies/Gentlemen at best are just a synonym for the Vice President's spouse, unlike the <a href="/wiki/First_ladies_and_gentlemen_of_the_Philippines" title="First ladies and gentlemen of the Philippines">First Lady/Gentlemen</a> who actually serves a role for being the host at the <a href="/wiki/Malacanang_Palace" class="mw-redirect" title="Malacanang Palace">Malacanang Palace</a> and is distinct from the <a href="/wiki/Spouse_of_the_President_of_the_Philippines" class="mw-redirect" title="Spouse of the President of the Philippines">Spouse of the President of the Philippines</a> <a href="/wiki/User:Hariboneagle927" title="User:Hariboneagle927">Hariboneagle927</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Hariboneagle927" title="User talk:Hariboneagle927">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2024_October_24#c-Hariboneagle927-20241008022400-Category:Second_ladies_and_gentlemen_of_the_Philippines" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">02:24, 8 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Hariboneagle927-20241008022400-Category:Second_ladies_and_gentlemen_of_the_Philippines"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241008022400","author":"Hariboneagle927","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Hariboneagle927-20241008022400-Category:Second_ladies_and_gentlemen_of_the_Philippines","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Hariboneagle927-20241008022400-Category:Second_ladies_and_gentlemen_of_the_Philippines"></span></dd></dl> <ul><li><b><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Liz-20241008061400-Category:Second_ladies_and_gentlemen_of_the_Philippines"></span>Comment</b> Unfortunately, this category has been emptied by the nominator, <a href="/wiki/User:Hariboneagle927" title="User:Hariboneagle927">Hariboneagle927</a>. <span style="font-family:Papyrus; color:#800080;"><a href="/wiki/User:Liz" title="User:Liz"><i><b>L</b></i>iz</a></span> <sup style="font-family: Times New Roman; color: #006400;"><a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Liz" title="Special:Contributions/Liz"><i><b>Read!</b></i></a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Liz" title="User talk:Liz"><i><b>Talk!</b></i></a></sup> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2024_October_24#c-Liz-20241008061400-Category:Second_ladies_and_gentlemen_of_the_Philippines" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">06:14, 8 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Liz-20241008061400-Category:Second_ladies_and_gentlemen_of_the_Philippines"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241008061400","author":"Liz","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Liz-20241008061400-Category:Second_ladies_and_gentlemen_of_the_Philippines","replies":["c-Hariboneagle927-20241008062100-Liz-20241008061400"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Liz-20241008061400-Category:Second_ladies_and_gentlemen_of_the_Philippines"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Hariboneagle927-20241008062100-Liz-20241008061400"></span>For full disclosure, there were four entries under it <a href="/wiki/Mans_Carpio" title="Mans Carpio">Mans Carpio</a>, <a href="/wiki/Elenita_Binay" title="Elenita Binay">Elenita Binay</a>, <a href="/wiki/Celia_D%C3%ADaz_Laurel" title="Celia Díaz Laurel">Celia Díaz Laurel</a>, and <a href="/wiki/Loi_Ejercito" title="Loi Ejercito">Loi Ejercito</a> <a href="/wiki/User:Hariboneagle927" title="User:Hariboneagle927">Hariboneagle927</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Hariboneagle927" title="User talk:Hariboneagle927">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2024_October_24#c-Hariboneagle927-20241008062100-Liz-20241008061400" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">06:21, 8 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Hariboneagle927-20241008062100-Liz-20241008061400"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241008062100","author":"Hariboneagle927","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Hariboneagle927-20241008062100-Liz-20241008061400","replies":["c-Smasongarrison-20241008130800-Hariboneagle927-20241008062100"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Hariboneagle927-20241008062100-Liz-20241008061400"></span> <dl><dd><b><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Smasongarrison-20241008130800-Hariboneagle927-20241008062100"></span>Oppose</b>. This category is spouses of the vice president, that's a defining feature regardless of whether the role is official. Please don't remove pages from categories like this. I've reverted you removals. <a href="/wiki/User:Smasongarrison" title="User:Smasongarrison">Mason</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Smasongarrison" title="User talk:Smasongarrison">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2024_October_24#c-Smasongarrison-20241008130800-Hariboneagle927-20241008062100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:08, 8 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Smasongarrison-20241008130800-Hariboneagle927-20241008062100"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241008130800","author":"Smasongarrison","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Smasongarrison-20241008130800-Hariboneagle927-20241008062100","replies":["c-Hariboneagle927-20241009044400-Smasongarrison-20241008130800"],"displayName":"Mason"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Smasongarrison-20241008130800-Hariboneagle927-20241008062100"></span> <dl><dd><b><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Hariboneagle927-20241009044400-Smasongarrison-20241008130800"></span>Comment</b> this is plain <i>neologism</i>. You would be hard pressed to see <u>consistent/sustained</u> usage of the term "Second Lady/Gentleman" by Philippine national broadsheets or government agencies. First Lady and Gentlemen are likewise not a formalized institution but unlike Second Lady, the term (Second Lady) is not used by the media or the government.</dd> <dd>The argument is "Second Ladies" as a role <u>does not exist</u> in the Philippine context. Sure the category could be renamed as <a href="/w/index.php?title=Category:Spouses_of_vice_presidents_of_the_Philippines&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Category:Spouses of vice presidents of the Philippines (page does not exist)">Category:Spouses of vice presidents of the Philippines</a> to accurately portray its member pages. We do not created fictitious roles and present it as fact, regardless if official or not. <a href="/wiki/User:Hariboneagle927" title="User:Hariboneagle927">Hariboneagle927</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Hariboneagle927" title="User talk:Hariboneagle927">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2024_October_24#c-Hariboneagle927-20241009044400-Smasongarrison-20241008130800" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">04:44, 9 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Hariboneagle927-20241009044400-Smasongarrison-20241008130800"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241009044400","author":"Hariboneagle927","type":"comment","level":5,"id":"c-Hariboneagle927-20241009044400-Smasongarrison-20241008130800","replies":["c-Hariboneagle927-20241009045100-Hariboneagle927-20241009044400"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Hariboneagle927-20241009044400-Smasongarrison-20241008130800"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Hariboneagle927-20241009045100-Hariboneagle927-20241009044400"></span>To re-emphasis the role of First Lady and Second Lady <u>is distinct</u> from the President's and the Vice president spouses. <a href="/wiki/User:Hariboneagle927" title="User:Hariboneagle927">Hariboneagle927</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Hariboneagle927" title="User talk:Hariboneagle927">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2024_October_24#c-Hariboneagle927-20241009045100-Hariboneagle927-20241009044400" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">04:51, 9 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Hariboneagle927-20241009045100-Hariboneagle927-20241009044400"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241009045100","author":"Hariboneagle927","type":"comment","level":6,"id":"c-Hariboneagle927-20241009045100-Hariboneagle927-20241009044400","replies":["c-Smasongarrison-20241016203500-Hariboneagle927-20241009045100"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Hariboneagle927-20241009045100-Hariboneagle927-20241009044400"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Smasongarrison-20241016203500-Hariboneagle927-20241009045100"></span>I'd be fine with renaming to Category:Spouses of vice presidents of the Philippines. <a href="/wiki/User:Smasongarrison" title="User:Smasongarrison">Mason</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Smasongarrison" title="User talk:Smasongarrison">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2024_October_24#c-Smasongarrison-20241016203500-Hariboneagle927-20241009045100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:35, 16 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Smasongarrison-20241016203500-Hariboneagle927-20241009045100"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span 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href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2024_October_24#c-Marcocapelle-20241008174400-Category:Second_ladies_and_gentlemen_of_the_Philippines" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:44, 8 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Marcocapelle-20241008174400-Category:Second_ladies_and_gentlemen_of_the_Philippines"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241008174400","author":"Marcocapelle","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Marcocapelle-20241008174400-Category:Second_ladies_and_gentlemen_of_the_Philippines","replies":["c-Hariboneagle927-20241009045600-Marcocapelle-20241008174400"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Marcocapelle-20241008174400-Category:Second_ladies_and_gentlemen_of_the_Philippines"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Hariboneagle927-20241009045600-Marcocapelle-20241008174400"></span>Two of the four entries are notable for being elected politicians, one is a theater actress and Mans Carpio is noted for being involved in a smuggling scandal and his membership in the wider <a href="/wiki/Duterte_family" class="mw-redirect" title="Duterte family">Duterte family</a> who had <a href="/wiki/Rodrigo_Duterte" title="Rodrigo Duterte">Rodrigo Duterte</a>, his father-in-law. None of the given citation asserts they held the role of "second lady/gentleman". Again we are talking about the fictitious role. I understand in some context such as the US context its synonymous to the vice president's spouse.<a href="/wiki/User:Hariboneagle927" title="User:Hariboneagle927">Hariboneagle927</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Hariboneagle927" title="User talk:Hariboneagle927">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2024_October_24#c-Hariboneagle927-20241009045600-Marcocapelle-20241008174400" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">04:56, 9 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Hariboneagle927-20241009045600-Marcocapelle-20241008174400"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241009045600","author":"Hariboneagle927","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Hariboneagle927-20241009045600-Marcocapelle-20241008174400","replies":["c-Marcocapelle-20241009055100-Hariboneagle927-20241009045600"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Hariboneagle927-20241009045600-Marcocapelle-20241008174400"></span> <ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Marcocapelle-20241009055100-Hariboneagle927-20241009045600"></span>I do not know anything about Philippine politics myself but I think your arguments are good and this should only be opposed if spouse of vice president is a defining characteristic <i>in the Philippines</i> after all. <a href="/wiki/User:Marcocapelle" title="User:Marcocapelle">Marcocapelle</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Marcocapelle" title="User talk:Marcocapelle">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2024_October_24#c-Marcocapelle-20241009055100-Hariboneagle927-20241009045600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">05:51, 9 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Marcocapelle-20241009055100-Hariboneagle927-20241009045600"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241009055100","author":"Marcocapelle","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Marcocapelle-20241009055100-Hariboneagle927-20241009045600","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Marcocapelle-20241009055100-Hariboneagle927-20241009045600"></span></li></ul></dd></dl></li></ul> <dl><dd><p class="xfd_relist" style="margin:0 0 0 -1em;border-top: 1px solid #AAA; border-bottom: 1px solid #AAA; padding: 0px 2em;"><span style="color: #FF6600;"><b><span style="font-size:91%;"><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Deletion_process#Relisting_discussions" title="Wikipedia:Deletion process"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-HouseBlaster-20241016013000-Category:Second_ladies_and_gentlemen_of_the_Philippines"></span>Relisted</a> to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.</span></b></span><br/><b>Relisting comment:</b> More participation needed to form consensus.<br/><small>Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, <b><a href="/wiki/User:HouseBlaster" title="User:HouseBlaster">House</a><a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/HouseBlaster" title="Special:Contributions/HouseBlaster"><span style="color:#7D066B;">Blaster</span></a></b> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:HouseBlaster" title="User talk:HouseBlaster">talk</a> • he/they) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2024_October_24#c-HouseBlaster-20241016013000-Category:Second_ladies_and_gentlemen_of_the_Philippines" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">01:30, 16 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span data-mw-comment-end="c-HouseBlaster-20241016013000-Category:Second_ladies_and_gentlemen_of_the_Philippines"></span></small><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-HouseBlaster-20241016013000-Category:Second_ladies_and_gentlemen_of_the_Philippines"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241016013000","author":"HouseBlaster","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-HouseBlaster-20241016013000-Category:Second_ladies_and_gentlemen_of_the_Philippines","replies":["c-Hariboneagle927-20241017014400-HouseBlaster-20241016013000"],"displayName":"House"}}--></span></p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Hariboneagle927-20241017014400-HouseBlaster-20241016013000"></span>To further emphasize, there is no such <i>role</i> as "second lady" in the Philippine context, so the question whether it is a defining characteristics for its member articles is moot. Being a spouse <i>is a different thing</i> and if the intent of the article is to cover vice president spouses then a rename should be in order.. <a href="/wiki/User:Hariboneagle927" title="User:Hariboneagle927">Hariboneagle927</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Hariboneagle927" title="User talk:Hariboneagle927">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2024_October_24#c-Hariboneagle927-20241017014400-HouseBlaster-20241016013000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">01:44, 17 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Hariboneagle927-20241017014400-HouseBlaster-20241016013000"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241017014400","author":"Hariboneagle927","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Hariboneagle927-20241017014400-HouseBlaster-20241016013000","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Hariboneagle927-20241017014400-HouseBlaster-20241016013000"></span></dd></dl></dd> <dd><p class="xfd_relist" style="margin:0 0 0 -1em;border-top: 1px solid #AAA; border-bottom: 1px solid #AAA; padding: 0px 2em;"><span style="color: #FF6600;"><b><span style="font-size:91%;"><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Deletion_process#Relisting_discussions" title="Wikipedia:Deletion process"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-HouseBlaster-20241024185800-Category:Second_ladies_and_gentlemen_of_the_Philippines"></span>Relisted</a> to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.</span></b></span><br/><b>Relisting comment:</b> Still need more participation to form consensus<br/><small>Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, <b><a href="/wiki/User:HouseBlaster" title="User:HouseBlaster">House</a><a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/HouseBlaster" title="Special:Contributions/HouseBlaster"><span style="color:#7D066B;">Blaster</span></a></b> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:HouseBlaster" title="User talk:HouseBlaster">talk</a> • he/they) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2024_October_24#c-HouseBlaster-20241024185800-Category:Second_ladies_and_gentlemen_of_the_Philippines" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:58, 24 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span data-mw-comment-end="c-HouseBlaster-20241024185800-Category:Second_ladies_and_gentlemen_of_the_Philippines"></span></small><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-HouseBlaster-20241024185800-Category:Second_ladies_and_gentlemen_of_the_Philippines"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241024185800","author":"HouseBlaster","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-HouseBlaster-20241024185800-Category:Second_ladies_and_gentlemen_of_the_Philippines","replies":[],"displayName":"House"}}--></span></p></dd></dl> <hr/> <dl><dd><i>The above is preserved as an archive of the discussion. <span style="color:red"><b>Please do not modify it.</b></span> Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the category's <a href="/wiki/Help:Using_talk_pages" class="mw-redirect" title="Help:Using talk pages">talk page</a> or in a <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Deletion_review" title="Wikipedia:Deletion review">deletion review</a>). No further edits should be made to this section.</i></dd></dl></div> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading4"><h4 id="Category:Events_at_Yankee_Stadium" data-mw-thread-id="h-Category:Events_at_Yankee_Stadium-October_24-20241007140800"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Category:Events_at_Yankee_Stadium-October_24-20241007140800"></span>Category:Events at Yankee Stadium<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Category:Events_at_Yankee_Stadium-October_24-20241007140800"></span></h4><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2024_October_24&action=edit&section=10" title="Edit section: Category:Events at Yankee Stadium"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span></div> <div class="boilerplate cfd vfd xfd-closed mw-archivedtalk" style="background-color:#bff9fc; margin:0 auto; padding:0 10px 0 10px; border:1px solid #AAAAAA;"> <dl><dd><i><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-HouseBlaster-20241031234700-Category:Events_at_Yankee_Stadium"></span>The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more categories. <span style="color:red"><b>Please do not modify it.</b></span> Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the category's <a href="/wiki/Help:Using_talk_pages" class="mw-redirect" title="Help:Using talk pages">talk page</a> or in a <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Deletion_review" title="Wikipedia:Deletion review">deletion review</a>). No further edits should be made to this section.</i></dd></dl> <dl><dd><i>The result of the discussion was:</i> <b>keep</b> but <b>purge</b> the seasons. <b><a href="/wiki/User:HouseBlaster" title="User:HouseBlaster">House</a><a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/HouseBlaster" title="Special:Contributions/HouseBlaster"><span style="color:#7D066B;">Blaster</span></a></b> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:HouseBlaster" title="User talk:HouseBlaster">talk</a> • he/they) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2024_October_24#c-HouseBlaster-20241031234700-Category:Events_at_Yankee_Stadium" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:47, 31 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-HouseBlaster-20241031234700-Category:Events_at_Yankee_Stadium"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241031234700","author":"HouseBlaster","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-HouseBlaster-20241031234700-Category:Events_at_Yankee_Stadium","replies":[],"displayName":"House"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-HouseBlaster-20241031234700-Category:Events_at_Yankee_Stadium"></span> <ul><li><b><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Bearcat-20241007140800-Category:Events_at_Yankee_Stadium"></span>Propose deleting</b> <span class="plainlinks nourlexpansion lx"><a href="/wiki/Category:Events_at_Yankee_Stadium" title="Category:Events at Yankee Stadium">Category:Events at Yankee Stadium</a> <span style="font-size:90%;">(<a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Category:Events_at_Yankee_Stadium&action=edit">edit</a> | <a href="/wiki/Category_talk:Events_at_Yankee_Stadium" title="Category talk:Events at Yankee Stadium">talk</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Category:Events_at_Yankee_Stadium&action=history">history</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Whatlinkshere/:Category:Events_at_Yankee_Stadium">links</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Category:Events_at_Yankee_Stadium&action=watch">watch</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Log&page=%3ACategory%3AEvents+at+Yankee+Stadium">logs</a>)</span></span></li></ul></dd> <dd><b>Nominator's rationale:</b> Per <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:OCVENUE" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:OCVENUE">WP:OCVENUE</a>, we do not categorize events by the venues they were held at. <a href="/wiki/User:Bearcat" title="User:Bearcat">Bearcat</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Bearcat" title="User talk:Bearcat">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2024_October_24#c-Bearcat-20241007140800-Category:Events_at_Yankee_Stadium" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:08, 7 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Bearcat-20241007140800-Category:Events_at_Yankee_Stadium"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241007140800","author":"Bearcat","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Bearcat-20241007140800-Category:Events_at_Yankee_Stadium","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Bearcat-20241007140800-Category:Events_at_Yankee_Stadium"></span></dd></dl> <ul><li><b><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Purplebackpack89-20241007150200-Category:Events_at_Yankee_Stadium"></span>Keep:</b> OCVENUE is not policy; we are not bound by it. Also, bad nom to only nominate this and none of the other venue categories <sub style="border:1px solid #FFCC00;"><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Purplebackpack89" title="User talk:Purplebackpack89"><span style="color:#FFCC00;background:#800080;">pbp</span></a></sub> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2024_October_24#c-Purplebackpack89-20241007150200-Category:Events_at_Yankee_Stadium" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:02, 7 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Purplebackpack89-20241007150200-Category:Events_at_Yankee_Stadium"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241007150200","author":"Purplebackpack89","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Purplebackpack89-20241007150200-Category:Events_at_Yankee_Stadium","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Purplebackpack89-20241007150200-Category:Events_at_Yankee_Stadium"></span></li> <li><b><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-RevelationDirect-20241007174900-Category:Events_at_Yankee_Stadium"></span>Keep</b> <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:OCVENUE" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:OCVENUE">WP:OCVENUE</a> makes an exception for "how a specific facility is regularly used" and the contents here are dominated by the New York Yankees and New York Giants (i.e. how it's regularly used) so the location seems defining. (It's not clear to me that there is a still a consensus for <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:OCVENUE" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:OCVENUE">WP:OCVENUE</a> generally but that's not really important here.) - <a href="/wiki/User:RevelationDirect" title="User:RevelationDirect">RevelationDirect</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:RevelationDirect" title="User talk:RevelationDirect">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2024_October_24#c-RevelationDirect-20241007174900-Category:Events_at_Yankee_Stadium" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:49, 7 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-RevelationDirect-20241007174900-Category:Events_at_Yankee_Stadium"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241007174900","author":"RevelationDirect","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-RevelationDirect-20241007174900-Category:Events_at_Yankee_Stadium","replies":["c-Smasongarrison-20241007210700-RevelationDirect-20241007174900"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-RevelationDirect-20241007174900-Category:Events_at_Yankee_Stadium"></span> <dl><dd><b><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Smasongarrison-20241007210700-RevelationDirect-20241007174900"></span>Delete</b>. I see no reason Yankee Stadium should be the exception. <a href="/wiki/User:Smasongarrison" title="User:Smasongarrison">Mason</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Smasongarrison" title="User talk:Smasongarrison">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2024_October_24#c-Smasongarrison-20241007210700-RevelationDirect-20241007174900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:07, 7 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Smasongarrison-20241007210700-RevelationDirect-20241007174900"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241007210700","author":"Smasongarrison","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Smasongarrison-20241007210700-RevelationDirect-20241007174900","replies":["c-Purplebackpack89-20241008014900-Smasongarrison-20241007210700"],"displayName":"Mason"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Smasongarrison-20241007210700-RevelationDirect-20241007174900"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Purplebackpack89-20241008014900-Smasongarrison-20241007210700"></span>It's not the exception; there are several other venues with categories. <sub style="border:1px solid #FFCC00;"><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Purplebackpack89" title="User talk:Purplebackpack89"><span style="color:#FFCC00;background:#800080;">pbp</span></a></sub> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2024_October_24#c-Purplebackpack89-20241008014900-Smasongarrison-20241007210700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">01:49, 8 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Purplebackpack89-20241008014900-Smasongarrison-20241007210700"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241008014900","author":"Purplebackpack89","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Purplebackpack89-20241008014900-Smasongarrison-20241007210700","replies":["c-Smasongarrison-20241008021400-Purplebackpack89-20241008014900"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Purplebackpack89-20241008014900-Smasongarrison-20241007210700"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Smasongarrison-20241008021400-Purplebackpack89-20241008014900"></span>The rest can be nominated. <a href="/wiki/User:Smasongarrison" title="User:Smasongarrison">Mason</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Smasongarrison" title="User talk:Smasongarrison">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2024_October_24#c-Smasongarrison-20241008021400-Purplebackpack89-20241008014900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">02:14, 8 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Smasongarrison-20241008021400-Purplebackpack89-20241008014900"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241008021400","author":"Smasongarrison","type":"comment","level":5,"id":"c-Smasongarrison-20241008021400-Purplebackpack89-20241008014900","replies":[],"displayName":"Mason"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Smasongarrison-20241008021400-Purplebackpack89-20241008014900"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></li> <li><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:OCVENUE" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:OCVENUE"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Marcocapelle-20241008053800-Category:Events_at_Yankee_Stadium"></span>WP:OCVENUE</a> does make a distinction between specific events and regular use. <a href="/wiki/User:Marcocapelle" title="User:Marcocapelle">Marcocapelle</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Marcocapelle" title="User talk:Marcocapelle">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2024_October_24#c-Marcocapelle-20241008053800-Category:Events_at_Yankee_Stadium" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">05:38, 8 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Marcocapelle-20241008053800-Category:Events_at_Yankee_Stadium"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241008053800","author":"Marcocapelle","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Marcocapelle-20241008053800-Category:Events_at_Yankee_Stadium","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Marcocapelle-20241008053800-Category:Events_at_Yankee_Stadium"></span></li></ul> <dl><dd><p class="xfd_relist" style="margin:0 0 0 -1em;border-top: 1px solid #AAA; border-bottom: 1px solid #AAA; padding: 0px 2em;"><span style="color: #FF6600;"><b><span style="font-size:91%;"><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Deletion_process#Relisting_discussions" title="Wikipedia:Deletion process"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-HouseBlaster-20241015002100-Category:Events_at_Yankee_Stadium"></span>Relisted</a> to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.</span></b></span><br/><b>Relisting comment:</b> Thoughts on Marcocapelle's comment?<br/><small>Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, <b><a href="/wiki/User:HouseBlaster" title="User:HouseBlaster">House</a><a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/HouseBlaster" title="Special:Contributions/HouseBlaster"><span style="color:#7D066B;">Blaster</span></a></b> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:HouseBlaster" title="User talk:HouseBlaster">talk</a> • he/they) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2024_October_24#c-HouseBlaster-20241015002100-Category:Events_at_Yankee_Stadium" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:21, 15 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span data-mw-comment-end="c-HouseBlaster-20241015002100-Category:Events_at_Yankee_Stadium"></span></small><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-HouseBlaster-20241015002100-Category:Events_at_Yankee_Stadium"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241015002100","author":"HouseBlaster","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-HouseBlaster-20241015002100-Category:Events_at_Yankee_Stadium","replies":[],"displayName":"House"}}--></span></p></dd></dl> <ul><li><b><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Namiba-20241017181700-Category:Events_at_Yankee_Stadium"></span>Delete</b> per Bearcat. Moreover, a season is not an event and all of the season articles should be removed, regardless of the result of this discussion.--<a href="/wiki/User:Namiba" title="User:Namiba">User:Namiba</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2024_October_24#c-Namiba-20241017181700-Category:Events_at_Yankee_Stadium" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:17, 17 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Namiba-20241017181700-Category:Events_at_Yankee_Stadium"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241017181700","author":"Namiba","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Namiba-20241017181700-Category:Events_at_Yankee_Stadium","replies":["c-Purplebackpack89-20241017184600-Namiba-20241017181700"],"displayName":"User:Namiba"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Namiba-20241017181700-Category:Events_at_Yankee_Stadium"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Purplebackpack89-20241017184600-Namiba-20241017181700"></span>Disagree. Those should remain. A season is a collection of events/games <sub style="border:1px solid #FFCC00;"><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Purplebackpack89" title="User talk:Purplebackpack89"><span style="color:#FFCC00;background:#800080;">pbp</span></a></sub> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2024_October_24#c-Purplebackpack89-20241017184600-Namiba-20241017181700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:46, 17 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Purplebackpack89-20241017184600-Namiba-20241017181700"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241017184600","author":"Purplebackpack89","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Purplebackpack89-20241017184600-Namiba-20241017181700","replies":["c-Namiba-20241017185900-Purplebackpack89-20241017184600"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Purplebackpack89-20241017184600-Namiba-20241017181700"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Namiba-20241017185900-Purplebackpack89-20241017184600"></span>Your definition of a sports season as a singular event is contrary to widely established consensus on Wikipedia. A season includes far more than just "a collection of events/games." It involves obtaining players and much more. Moreover, the games themselves did not occur solely in one place. They occurred in dozens of stadiums.--<a href="/wiki/User:Namiba" title="User:Namiba">User:Namiba</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2024_October_24#c-Namiba-20241017185900-Purplebackpack89-20241017184600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:59, 17 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Namiba-20241017185900-Purplebackpack89-20241017184600"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241017185900","author":"Namiba","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Namiba-20241017185900-Purplebackpack89-20241017184600","replies":["c-Purplebackpack89-20241021121000-Namiba-20241017185900"],"displayName":"User:Namiba"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Namiba-20241017185900-Purplebackpack89-20241017184600"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Purplebackpack89-20241021121000-Namiba-20241017185900"></span>The Yankees' home games occurred in Yankee Stadium, so I don't see what the problem is. You make it as though NONE of a Yankees' season occurred in Yankee Stadium, which is incredibly ridiculous. And I don't care what consensus is, consensus can change. I don't have to goose-step to it <sub style="border:1px solid #FFCC00;"><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Purplebackpack89" title="User talk:Purplebackpack89"><span style="color:#FFCC00;background:#800080;">pbp</span></a></sub> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2024_October_24#c-Purplebackpack89-20241021121000-Namiba-20241017185900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:10, 21 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Purplebackpack89-20241021121000-Namiba-20241017185900"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241021121000","author":"Purplebackpack89","type":"comment","level":5,"id":"c-Purplebackpack89-20241021121000-Namiba-20241017185900","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Purplebackpack89-20241021121000-Namiba-20241017185900"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></li> <li><b><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Carguychris-20241017191900-Category:Events_at_Yankee_Stadium"></span>Delete</b> per Bearcat and Mason. No one has presented a cogent argument why Yankee Stadium should be an exception from <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:OCVENUE" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:OCVENUE">WP:OCVENUE</a>. It's a stadium in NYC where NYC baseball teams have routinely hosted games. What's exceptional about that? Additionally, I agree with Namiba that's it's nonsensical to categorize an MLB team's season as if it took place entirely in one venue. <a href="/wiki/User:Carguychris" title="User:Carguychris">Carguychris</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Carguychris" title="User talk:Carguychris">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2024_October_24#c-Carguychris-20241017191900-Category:Events_at_Yankee_Stadium" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:19, 17 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Carguychris-20241017191900-Category:Events_at_Yankee_Stadium"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241017191900","author":"Carguychris","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Carguychris-20241017191900-Category:Events_at_Yankee_Stadium","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Carguychris-20241017191900-Category:Events_at_Yankee_Stadium"></span></li> <li><b><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Toohool-20241020200900-Category:Events_at_Yankee_Stadium"></span>Keep</b> as with recent CfD's on event-by-venue categories: <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2024_July_16#Category:Boxing_matches_at_Madison_Square_Garden" title="Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2024 July 16">1</a> & <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2024_August_13#Category:Events_at_Madison_Square_Garden" title="Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2024 August 13">2</a>. It's a perfectly good defining characteristic. The cited clause of OCVENUE has no rational basis. Agree with removing the season articles though, per Namiba's comment that a season is not an event. <a href="/wiki/User:Toohool" title="User:Toohool">Toohool</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Toohool" title="User talk:Toohool">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2024_October_24#c-Toohool-20241020200900-Category:Events_at_Yankee_Stadium" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:09, 20 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Toohool-20241020200900-Category:Events_at_Yankee_Stadium"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241020200900","author":"Toohool","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Toohool-20241020200900-Category:Events_at_Yankee_Stadium","replies":["c-Namiba-20241020205400-Toohool-20241020200900"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Toohool-20241020200900-Category:Events_at_Yankee_Stadium"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Namiba-20241020205400-Toohool-20241020200900"></span>Without the seasons, there are very few events in this category.--<a href="/wiki/User:Namiba" title="User:Namiba">User:Namiba</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2024_October_24#c-Namiba-20241020205400-Toohool-20241020200900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:54, 20 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Namiba-20241020205400-Toohool-20241020200900"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241020205400","author":"Namiba","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Namiba-20241020205400-Toohool-20241020200900","replies":["c-Toohool-20241020225000-Namiba-20241020205400","c-RevelationDirect-20241021111400-Namiba-20241020205400"],"displayName":"User:Namiba"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Namiba-20241020205400-Toohool-20241020200900"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Toohool-20241020225000-Namiba-20241020205400"></span>Added more articles to the category. <a href="/wiki/User:Toohool" title="User:Toohool">Toohool</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Toohool" title="User talk:Toohool">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2024_October_24#c-Toohool-20241020225000-Namiba-20241020205400" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:50, 20 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Toohool-20241020225000-Namiba-20241020205400"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241020225000","author":"Toohool","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Toohool-20241020225000-Namiba-20241020205400","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Toohool-20241020225000-Namiba-20241020205400"></span></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-RevelationDirect-20241021111400-Namiba-20241020205400"></span>The stated reason for discouraging categorizing events by venue is that the categories would become too large, per <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:OCVENUE" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:OCVENUE">WP:OCVENUE</a>. I'm unclear if the second paragraph of the editing guideline still has community consensus but, even amongst those that support the concept, I don't think category size is the the real concern. <a href="/wiki/User:RevelationDirect" title="User:RevelationDirect">RevelationDirect</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:RevelationDirect" title="User talk:RevelationDirect">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2024_October_24#c-RevelationDirect-20241021111400-Namiba-20241020205400" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:14, 21 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-RevelationDirect-20241021111400-Namiba-20241020205400"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241021111400","author":"RevelationDirect","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-RevelationDirect-20241021111400-Namiba-20241020205400","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-RevelationDirect-20241021111400-Namiba-20241020205400"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></li> <li><b><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Sam11333-20241021081100-Category:Events_at_Yankee_Stadium"></span>Keep</b> As per <a href="/wiki/User:Purplebackpack89" title="User:Purplebackpack89">Purplebackpack89</a> and <a href="/wiki/User:RevelationDirect" title="User:RevelationDirect">RevelationDirect</a>. Boxing matches are categorized by venue and I see no reason why a general category should also exist. <a href="/wiki/User:Sam11333" title="User:Sam11333">Sam11333</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Sam11333" title="User talk:Sam11333">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2024_October_24#c-Sam11333-20241021081100-Category:Events_at_Yankee_Stadium" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">08:11, 21 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Sam11333-20241021081100-Category:Events_at_Yankee_Stadium"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241021081100","author":"Sam11333","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Sam11333-20241021081100-Category:Events_at_Yankee_Stadium","replies":["c-Namiba-20241021133000-Sam11333-20241021081100"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Sam11333-20241021081100-Category:Events_at_Yankee_Stadium"></span></li></ul> <dl><dd><dl><dd><b><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Namiba-20241021133000-Sam11333-20241021081100"></span>Note</b> this category confuses two different stadiums, both of which are named Yankee Stadium. Most of the events in this category occurred in <a href="/wiki/Yankee_Stadium_(1923)" title="Yankee Stadium (1923)">Yankee Stadium (1923)</a>, not the present stadium.--<a href="/wiki/User:Namiba" title="User:Namiba">User:Namiba</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2024_October_24#c-Namiba-20241021133000-Sam11333-20241021081100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:30, 21 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Namiba-20241021133000-Sam11333-20241021081100"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241021133000","author":"Namiba","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Namiba-20241021133000-Sam11333-20241021081100","replies":["c-RevelationDirect-20241021175500-Namiba-20241021133000"],"displayName":"User:Namiba"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Namiba-20241021133000-Sam11333-20241021081100"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-RevelationDirect-20241021175500-Namiba-20241021133000"></span>If kept, a category split certainly make sense. <a href="/wiki/User:RevelationDirect" title="User:RevelationDirect">RevelationDirect</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:RevelationDirect" title="User talk:RevelationDirect">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2024_October_24#c-RevelationDirect-20241021175500-Namiba-20241021133000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:55, 21 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-RevelationDirect-20241021175500-Namiba-20241021133000"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241021175500","author":"RevelationDirect","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-RevelationDirect-20241021175500-Namiba-20241021133000","replies":["c-Sam11333-20241021214400-RevelationDirect-20241021175500"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-RevelationDirect-20241021175500-Namiba-20241021133000"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Sam11333-20241021214400-RevelationDirect-20241021175500"></span>To be fair other venues have been rebuilt but have just one category for events. MGS and Wembley Stadium to name just two. <a href="/wiki/User:Sam11333" title="User:Sam11333">Sam11333</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Sam11333" title="User talk:Sam11333">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2024_October_24#c-Sam11333-20241021214400-RevelationDirect-20241021175500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:44, 21 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Sam11333-20241021214400-RevelationDirect-20241021175500"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241021214400","author":"Sam11333","type":"comment","level":5,"id":"c-Sam11333-20241021214400-RevelationDirect-20241021175500","replies":["c-Namiba-20241025174400-Sam11333-20241021214400"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Sam11333-20241021214400-RevelationDirect-20241021175500"></span> <dl><dd><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Namiba-20241025174400-Sam11333-20241021214400"></span>WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS</a> is not a valid reason to keep a category.--<a href="/wiki/User:Namiba" title="User:Namiba">User:Namiba</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2024_October_24#c-Namiba-20241025174400-Sam11333-20241021214400" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:44, 25 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Namiba-20241025174400-Sam11333-20241021214400"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241025174400","author":"Namiba","type":"comment","level":6,"id":"c-Namiba-20241025174400-Sam11333-20241021214400","replies":["c-RevelationDirect-20241027183900-Namiba-20241025174400"],"displayName":"User:Namiba"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Namiba-20241025174400-Sam11333-20241021214400"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-RevelationDirect-20241027183900-Namiba-20241025174400"></span>That's true, but <i>if</i> we agreed that this category was defining, I don't think whether or not to split it would be that controversial. <a href="/wiki/User:RevelationDirect" title="User:RevelationDirect">RevelationDirect</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:RevelationDirect" title="User talk:RevelationDirect">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2024_October_24#c-RevelationDirect-20241027183900-Namiba-20241025174400" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:39, 27 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-RevelationDirect-20241027183900-Namiba-20241025174400"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241027183900","author":"RevelationDirect","type":"comment","level":7,"id":"c-RevelationDirect-20241027183900-Namiba-20241025174400","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-RevelationDirect-20241027183900-Namiba-20241025174400"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd> <dd><p class="xfd_relist" style="margin:0 0 0 -1em;border-top: 1px solid #AAA; border-bottom: 1px solid #AAA; padding: 0px 2em;"><span style="color: #FF6600;"><b><span style="font-size:91%;"><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Deletion_process#Relisting_discussions" title="Wikipedia:Deletion process"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-HouseBlaster-20241024165400-Category:Events_at_Yankee_Stadium"></span>Relisted</a> to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.</span></b></span><br/><b>Relisting comment:</b> No consensus to delete the category, but if kept should it be purged of season categories?<br/><small>Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, <b><a href="/wiki/User:HouseBlaster" title="User:HouseBlaster">House</a><a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/HouseBlaster" title="Special:Contributions/HouseBlaster"><span style="color:#7D066B;">Blaster</span></a></b> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:HouseBlaster" title="User talk:HouseBlaster">talk</a> • he/they) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2024_October_24#c-HouseBlaster-20241024165400-Category:Events_at_Yankee_Stadium" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:54, 24 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span data-mw-comment-end="c-HouseBlaster-20241024165400-Category:Events_at_Yankee_Stadium"></span></small><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-HouseBlaster-20241024165400-Category:Events_at_Yankee_Stadium"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241024165400","author":"HouseBlaster","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-HouseBlaster-20241024165400-Category:Events_at_Yankee_Stadium","replies":[],"displayName":"House"}}--></span></p></dd></dl> <ul><li><b><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Marcocapelle-20241025031700-Category:Events_at_Yankee_Stadium"></span>Purge seasons articles and subcategories</b>, they are not about the venue. <a href="/wiki/User:Marcocapelle" title="User:Marcocapelle">Marcocapelle</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Marcocapelle" title="User talk:Marcocapelle">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2024_October_24#c-Marcocapelle-20241025031700-Category:Events_at_Yankee_Stadium" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">03:17, 25 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Marcocapelle-20241025031700-Category:Events_at_Yankee_Stadium"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241025031700","author":"Marcocapelle","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Marcocapelle-20241025031700-Category:Events_at_Yankee_Stadium","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Marcocapelle-20241025031700-Category:Events_at_Yankee_Stadium"></span></li> <li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Namiba-20241025175100-Category:Events_at_Yankee_Stadium"></span>Can the editors who support keeping this category explain how it helps navigation? Why not merge into <a href="/wiki/Category:Sports_competitions_in_the_Bronx" title="Category:Sports competitions in the Bronx">Category:Sports competitions in the Bronx</a>?--<a href="/wiki/User:Namiba" title="User:Namiba">User:Namiba</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2024_October_24#c-Namiba-20241025175100-Category:Events_at_Yankee_Stadium" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:51, 25 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Namiba-20241025175100-Category:Events_at_Yankee_Stadium"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241025175100","author":"Namiba","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Namiba-20241025175100-Category:Events_at_Yankee_Stadium","replies":["c-Rlendog-20241025192600-Namiba-20241025175100","c-RevelationDirect-20241027182300-Namiba-20241025175100"],"displayName":"User:Namiba"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Namiba-20241025175100-Category:Events_at_Yankee_Stadium"></span></li></ul> <dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Rlendog-20241025192600-Namiba-20241025175100"></span>It helps readers navigate between events that have been held at Yankee Stadium. <a href="/wiki/User:Rlendog" title="User:Rlendog">Rlendog</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Rlendog" title="User talk:Rlendog">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2024_October_24#c-Rlendog-20241025192600-Namiba-20241025175100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:26, 25 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Rlendog-20241025192600-Namiba-20241025175100"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241025192600","author":"Rlendog","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Rlendog-20241025192600-Namiba-20241025175100","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Rlendog-20241025192600-Namiba-20241025175100"></span></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-RevelationDirect-20241027182300-Namiba-20241025175100"></span>The general concept of "place" is always defining. For small towns, we'll marge different sports into one category, while medium sized cities will have sports specific breakdowns. One isn't more or less defining, it just depends on how much diffusion is appropriate given the number of articles to avoid <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:NARROWCAT" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:NARROWCAT">WP:NARROWCAT</a>. <div class="paragraphbreak" style="margin-top:0.5em"></div>For major cities, using a more specific defining location is a useful way to diffuse categories to aid navigation. (Whether you agree or not, I hope that helps clarify.) <a href="/wiki/User:RevelationDirect" title="User:RevelationDirect">RevelationDirect</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:RevelationDirect" title="User talk:RevelationDirect">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2024_October_24#c-RevelationDirect-20241027182300-Namiba-20241025175100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:23, 27 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-RevelationDirect-20241027182300-Namiba-20241025175100"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241027182300","author":"RevelationDirect","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-RevelationDirect-20241027182300-Namiba-20241025175100","replies":["c-Namiba-20241028145300-RevelationDirect-20241027182300"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-RevelationDirect-20241027182300-Namiba-20241025175100"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Namiba-20241028145300-RevelationDirect-20241027182300"></span>I generally agree but, in this case, we already diffusing by borough. The Bronx category is not particularly overpopulated.--<a href="/wiki/User:Namiba" title="User:Namiba">User:Namiba</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2024_October_24#c-Namiba-20241028145300-RevelationDirect-20241027182300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:53, 28 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Namiba-20241028145300-RevelationDirect-20241027182300"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241028145300","author":"Namiba","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Namiba-20241028145300-RevelationDirect-20241027182300","replies":[],"displayName":"User:Namiba"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Namiba-20241028145300-RevelationDirect-20241027182300"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <ul><li><b><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Rlendog-20241025192600-Category:Events_at_Yankee_Stadium"></span>Keep</b> per RevelationDirect. <a href="/wiki/User:Rlendog" title="User:Rlendog">Rlendog</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Rlendog" title="User talk:Rlendog">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2024_October_24#c-Rlendog-20241025192600-Category:Events_at_Yankee_Stadium" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:26, 25 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Rlendog-20241025192600-Category:Events_at_Yankee_Stadium"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241025192600","author":"Rlendog","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Rlendog-20241025192600-Category:Events_at_Yankee_Stadium","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Rlendog-20241025192600-Category:Events_at_Yankee_Stadium"></span></li></ul> <hr/> <dl><dd><i>The above is preserved as an archive of the discussion. <span style="color:red"><b>Please do not modify it.</b></span> Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the category's <a href="/wiki/Help:Using_talk_pages" class="mw-redirect" title="Help:Using talk pages">talk page</a> or in a <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Deletion_review" title="Wikipedia:Deletion review">deletion review</a>). No further edits should be made to this section.</i></dd></dl></div> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading4"><h4 id="Category:Geography_of_the_Republic_of_Hawaii" data-mw-thread-id="h-Category:Geography_of_the_Republic_of_Hawaii-October_24-20241024164300"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Category:Geography_of_the_Republic_of_Hawaii-October_24-20241024164300"></span>Category:Geography of the Republic of Hawaii<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Category:Geography_of_the_Republic_of_Hawaii-October_24-20241024164300"></span></h4><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2024_October_24&action=edit&section=11" title="Edit section: Category:Geography of the Republic of Hawaii"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span></div> <div class="boilerplate cfd vfd xfd-closed mw-archivedtalk" style="background-color:#bff9fc; margin:0 auto; padding:0 10px 0 10px; border:1px solid #AAAAAA;"> <dl><dd><i><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-HouseBlaster-20241031234100-Category:Geography_of_the_Republic_of_Hawaii"></span>The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more categories. <span style="color:red"><b>Please do not modify it.</b></span> Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the category's <a href="/wiki/Help:Using_talk_pages" class="mw-redirect" title="Help:Using talk pages">talk page</a> or in a <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Deletion_review" title="Wikipedia:Deletion review">deletion review</a>). No further edits should be made to this section.</i></dd></dl> <dl><dd><i>The result of the discussion was:</i> <b>delete</b>. <b><a href="/wiki/User:HouseBlaster" title="User:HouseBlaster">House</a><a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/HouseBlaster" title="Special:Contributions/HouseBlaster"><span style="color:#7D066B;">Blaster</span></a></b> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:HouseBlaster" title="User talk:HouseBlaster">talk</a> • he/they) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2024_October_24#c-HouseBlaster-20241031234100-Category:Geography_of_the_Republic_of_Hawaii" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:41, 31 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-HouseBlaster-20241031234100-Category:Geography_of_the_Republic_of_Hawaii"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241031234100","author":"HouseBlaster","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-HouseBlaster-20241031234100-Category:Geography_of_the_Republic_of_Hawaii","replies":[],"displayName":"House"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-HouseBlaster-20241031234100-Category:Geography_of_the_Republic_of_Hawaii"></span></dd></dl> <dl><dd><ul><li><b><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Elli-20241024164300-Category:Geography_of_the_Republic_of_Hawaii"></span>Propose deleting</b> <span class="plainlinks nourlexpansion lx"><a href="/w/index.php?title=Category:Geography_of_the_Republic_of_Hawaii&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Category:Geography of the Republic of Hawaii (page does not exist)">Category:Geography of the Republic of Hawaii</a> <span style="font-size:90%;">(<a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Category:Geography_of_the_Republic_of_Hawaii&action=edit">edit</a> | <a href="/w/index.php?title=Category_talk:Geography_of_the_Republic_of_Hawaii&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Category talk:Geography of the Republic of Hawaii (page does not exist)">talk</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Category:Geography_of_the_Republic_of_Hawaii&action=history">history</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Whatlinkshere/:Category:Geography_of_the_Republic_of_Hawaii">links</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Category:Geography_of_the_Republic_of_Hawaii&action=watch">watch</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Log&page=%3ACategory%3AGeography+of+the+Republic+of+Hawaii">logs</a>)</span></span></li></ul></dd> <dd><b>Nominator's rationale:</b> Not useful for navigation, and its current entries don't actually belong in the category, since they're about the current state of Hawaii. If we had articles particularly focusing on the Republic of Hawaii's geography (such as its administrative subdivisions) this might be useful... but we don't. <a href="/wiki/User:Elli" title="User:Elli">Elli</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Elli" title="User talk:Elli">talk</a> | <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Elli" title="Special:Contributions/Elli">contribs</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2024_October_24#c-Elli-20241024164300-Category:Geography_of_the_Republic_of_Hawaii" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:43, 24 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Elli-20241024164300-Category:Geography_of_the_Republic_of_Hawaii"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241024164300","author":"Elli","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Elli-20241024164300-Category:Geography_of_the_Republic_of_Hawaii","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Elli-20241024164300-Category:Geography_of_the_Republic_of_Hawaii"></span></dd></dl> <ul><li><b><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Marcocapelle-20241024212600-Category:Geography_of_the_Republic_of_Hawaii"></span>Delete</b> per nom. <a href="/wiki/User:Marcocapelle" title="User:Marcocapelle">Marcocapelle</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Marcocapelle" title="User talk:Marcocapelle">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2024_October_24#c-Marcocapelle-20241024212600-Category:Geography_of_the_Republic_of_Hawaii" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:26, 24 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Marcocapelle-20241024212600-Category:Geography_of_the_Republic_of_Hawaii"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241024212600","author":"Marcocapelle","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Marcocapelle-20241024212600-Category:Geography_of_the_Republic_of_Hawaii","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Marcocapelle-20241024212600-Category:Geography_of_the_Republic_of_Hawaii"></span></li> <li><b><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Fayenatic_london-20241025151200-Category:Geography_of_the_Republic_of_Hawaii"></span>Delete</b>. The two members appear to be the only pages added by the category creator, who is not currently active. – <a href="/wiki/User:Fayenatic_london" title="User:Fayenatic london">Fayenatic</a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Fayenatic_london" title="User talk:Fayenatic london"><b><span style="color:#FF0000;">L</span></b>ondon</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2024_October_24#c-Fayenatic_london-20241025151200-Category:Geography_of_the_Republic_of_Hawaii" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:12, 25 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Fayenatic_london-20241025151200-Category:Geography_of_the_Republic_of_Hawaii"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241025151200","author":"Fayenatic london","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Fayenatic_london-20241025151200-Category:Geography_of_the_Republic_of_Hawaii","replies":[],"displayName":"Fayenatic"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Fayenatic_london-20241025151200-Category:Geography_of_the_Republic_of_Hawaii"></span></li></ul> <hr/> <dl><dd><i>The above is preserved as an archive of the discussion. <span style="color:red"><b>Please do not modify it.</b></span> Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the category's <a href="/wiki/Help:Using_talk_pages" class="mw-redirect" title="Help:Using talk pages">talk page</a> or in a <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Deletion_review" title="Wikipedia:Deletion review">deletion review</a>). No further edits should be made to this section.</i></dd></dl></div> <p><br/> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading4"><h4 id="Category:Sherbrooke_teams" data-mw-thread-id="h-Category:Sherbrooke_teams-October_24-20241024151300"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Category:Sherbrooke_teams-October_24-20241024151300"></span>Category:Sherbrooke teams<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Category:Sherbrooke_teams-October_24-20241024151300"></span></h4><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2024_October_24&action=edit&section=12" title="Edit section: Category:Sherbrooke teams"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span></div> <div class="boilerplate cfd vfd xfd-closed mw-archivedtalk" style="background-color:#bff9fc; margin:0 auto; padding:0 10px 0 10px; border:1px solid #AAAAAA;"> <dl><dd><i><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-HouseBlaster-20241101003500-Category:Sherbrooke_teams"></span>The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more categories. <span style="color:red"><b>Please do not modify it.</b></span> Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the category's <a href="/wiki/Help:Using_talk_pages" class="mw-redirect" title="Help:Using talk pages">talk page</a> or in a <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Deletion_review" title="Wikipedia:Deletion review">deletion review</a>). No further edits should be made to this section.</i></dd></dl> <dl><dd><i>The result of the discussion was:</i> <b>merge</b>. <b><a href="/wiki/User:HouseBlaster" title="User:HouseBlaster">House</a><a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/HouseBlaster" title="Special:Contributions/HouseBlaster"><span style="color:#7D066B;">Blaster</span></a></b> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:HouseBlaster" title="User talk:HouseBlaster">talk</a> • he/they) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2024_October_24#c-HouseBlaster-20241101003500-Category:Sherbrooke_teams" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:35, 1 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-HouseBlaster-20241101003500-Category:Sherbrooke_teams"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241101003500","author":"HouseBlaster","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-HouseBlaster-20241101003500-Category:Sherbrooke_teams","replies":[],"displayName":"House"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-HouseBlaster-20241101003500-Category:Sherbrooke_teams"></span></dd></dl> <dl><dd><ul><li><b><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Namiba-20241024151300-Category:Sherbrooke_teams"></span>Propose merging</b> <a href="/w/index.php?title=Category:Sherbrooke_Canadiens&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Category:Sherbrooke Canadiens (page does not exist)">Category:Sherbrooke Canadiens</a> to <a href="/wiki/Category:Ice_hockey_teams_in_Sherbrooke" title="Category:Ice hockey teams in Sherbrooke">Category:Ice hockey teams in Sherbrooke</a></li> <li><b>Propose merging</b> <a href="/w/index.php?title=Category:Sherbrooke_Jets&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Category:Sherbrooke Jets (page does not exist)">Category:Sherbrooke Jets</a> to <a href="/wiki/Category:Ice_hockey_teams_in_Sherbrooke" title="Category:Ice hockey teams in Sherbrooke">Category:Ice hockey teams in Sherbrooke</a></li></ul></dd> <dd><b>Nominator's rationale:</b> Small categories (just the article and a subcategory for players) which hinder navigation. Both are already in <a href="/wiki/Category:Defunct_ice_hockey_teams_in_Quebec" title="Category:Defunct ice hockey teams in Quebec">Category:Defunct ice hockey teams in Quebec</a>. If anyone feels like doing a mass nomination, the vast majority of sub-categories <a href="/wiki/Category:Defunct_American_Hockey_League_teams" title="Category:Defunct American Hockey League teams">here</a> could probably be merged as well.--<a href="/wiki/User:Namiba" title="User:Namiba">User:Namiba</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2024_October_24#c-Namiba-20241024151300-Category:Sherbrooke_teams" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:13, 24 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Namiba-20241024151300-Category:Sherbrooke_teams"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241024151300","author":"Namiba","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Namiba-20241024151300-Category:Sherbrooke_teams","replies":[],"displayName":"User:Namiba"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Namiba-20241024151300-Category:Sherbrooke_teams"></span></dd></dl> <ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Mike_Selinker-20241024160500-Category:Sherbrooke_teams"></span>'<s><i>Oppose.'</i> This is a well thought out category structure: player categories go in team categories, which go in locational team supercategories. I would suggest creating <a href="/wiki/Category:Ice_hockey_teams_in_Sherbrooke" title="Category:Ice hockey teams in Sherbrooke">Category:Ice hockey teams in Sherbrooke</a> to contain these but not deleting them.</s>--<a href="/wiki/User:Mike_Selinker" title="User:Mike Selinker">Mike Selinker</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Mike_Selinker" title="User talk:Mike Selinker">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2024_October_24#c-Mike_Selinker-20241024160500-Category:Sherbrooke_teams" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:05, 24 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Mike_Selinker-20241024160500-Category:Sherbrooke_teams"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241024160500","author":"Mike Selinker","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Mike_Selinker-20241024160500-Category:Sherbrooke_teams","replies":["c-Namiba-20241024165500-Mike_Selinker-20241024160500"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Mike_Selinker-20241024160500-Category:Sherbrooke_teams"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Namiba-20241024165500-Mike_Selinker-20241024160500"></span>Per <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:EPON" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:EPON">WP:EPON</a> "Eponymous categories should not be created unless enough directly related articles or subcategories exist." There are not and will never be enough directly related articles for these defunct minor league teams to justify their existence.--<a href="/wiki/User:Namiba" title="User:Namiba">User:Namiba</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2024_October_24#c-Namiba-20241024165500-Mike_Selinker-20241024160500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:55, 24 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Namiba-20241024165500-Mike_Selinker-20241024160500"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241024165500","author":"Namiba","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Namiba-20241024165500-Mike_Selinker-20241024160500","replies":["c-Mike_Selinker-20241027214300-Namiba-20241024165500"],"displayName":"User:Namiba"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Namiba-20241024165500-Mike_Selinker-20241024160500"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Mike_Selinker-20241027214300-Namiba-20241024165500"></span>Actually, on looking at the other categories, I realize I'm just wrong about this. <b>Merge</b> is the correct answer.--<a href="/wiki/User:Mike_Selinker" title="User:Mike Selinker">Mike Selinker</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Mike_Selinker" title="User talk:Mike Selinker">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2024_October_24#c-Mike_Selinker-20241027214300-Namiba-20241024165500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:43, 27 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Mike_Selinker-20241027214300-Namiba-20241024165500"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241027214300","author":"Mike Selinker","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Mike_Selinker-20241027214300-Namiba-20241024165500","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Mike_Selinker-20241027214300-Namiba-20241024165500"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></li> <li><b><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Marcocapelle-20241024212900-Category:Sherbrooke_teams"></span>Selectively merge</b> (move the subcategories directly to <a href="/wiki/Category:Ice_hockey_in_Sherbrooke" title="Category:Ice hockey in Sherbrooke">Category:Ice hockey in Sherbrooke</a>), the players subcategories suffice. <a href="/wiki/User:Marcocapelle" title="User:Marcocapelle">Marcocapelle</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Marcocapelle" title="User talk:Marcocapelle">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2024_October_24#c-Marcocapelle-20241024212900-Category:Sherbrooke_teams" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:29, 24 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Marcocapelle-20241024212900-Category:Sherbrooke_teams"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241024212900","author":"Marcocapelle","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Marcocapelle-20241024212900-Category:Sherbrooke_teams","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Marcocapelle-20241024212900-Category:Sherbrooke_teams"></span></li></ul> <hr/> <dl><dd><i>The above is preserved as an archive of the discussion. <span style="color:red"><b>Please do not modify it.</b></span> Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the category's <a href="/wiki/Help:Using_talk_pages" class="mw-redirect" title="Help:Using talk pages">talk page</a> or in a <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Deletion_review" title="Wikipedia:Deletion review">deletion review</a>). No further edits should be made to this section.</i></dd></dl></div> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading4"><h4 id="Category:21st-century_diplomatic_conferences_(Afghanistan)" data-mw-thread-id="h-Category:21st-century_diplomatic_conferences_(Afghanistan)-October_24"><span id="Category:21st-century_diplomatic_conferences_.28Afghanistan.29"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Category:21st-century_diplomatic_conferences_(Afghanistan)-October_24"></span>Category:21st-century diplomatic conferences (Afghanistan)<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Category:21st-century_diplomatic_conferences_(Afghanistan)-October_24"></span></h4><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2024_October_24&action=edit&section=13" title="Edit section: Category:21st-century diplomatic conferences (Afghanistan)"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span></div> <p><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/50/Symbol_move_vote.svg/16px-Symbol_move_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="16" height="16" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/50/Symbol_move_vote.svg/24px-Symbol_move_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/50/Symbol_move_vote.svg/32px-Symbol_move_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></span></span> <b>Relisted</b>, see <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2024_November_1#Category:21st-century_diplomatic_conferences_(Afghanistan)" title="Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2024 November 1">Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2024 November 1#Category:21st-century diplomatic conferences (Afghanistan)</a> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading4"><h4 id="Category:Brunel_University_London" data-mw-thread-id="h-Category:Brunel_University_London-October_24-20241024092600"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Category:Brunel_University_London-October_24-20241024092600"></span>Category:Brunel University London<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Category:Brunel_University_London-October_24-20241024092600"></span></h4><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2024_October_24&action=edit&section=14" title="Edit section: Category:Brunel University London"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span></div> <div class="boilerplate cfd vfd xfd-closed mw-archivedtalk" style="background-color:#bff9fc; margin:0 auto; padding:0 10px 0 10px; border:1px solid #AAAAAA;"> <dl><dd><i><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-HouseBlaster-20241031234100-Category:Brunel_University_London"></span>The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more categories. <span style="color:red"><b>Please do not modify it.</b></span> Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the category's <a href="/wiki/Help:Using_talk_pages" class="mw-redirect" title="Help:Using talk pages">talk page</a> or in a <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Deletion_review" title="Wikipedia:Deletion review">deletion review</a>). No further edits should be made to this section.</i></dd></dl> <dl><dd><i>The result of the discussion was:</i> <b>rename</b>. <b><a href="/wiki/User:HouseBlaster" title="User:HouseBlaster">House</a><a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/HouseBlaster" title="Special:Contributions/HouseBlaster"><span style="color:#7D066B;">Blaster</span></a></b> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:HouseBlaster" title="User talk:HouseBlaster">talk</a> • he/they) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2024_October_24#c-HouseBlaster-20241031234100-Category:Brunel_University_London" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:41, 31 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-HouseBlaster-20241031234100-Category:Brunel_University_London"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241031234100","author":"HouseBlaster","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-HouseBlaster-20241031234100-Category:Brunel_University_London","replies":[],"displayName":"House"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-HouseBlaster-20241031234100-Category:Brunel_University_London"></span></dd></dl> <dl><dd><ul><li><b><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Elshad-20241024092600-Category:Brunel_University_London"></span>Propose renaming</b> <a href="/w/index.php?title=Category:Brunel_University_London&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Category:Brunel University London (page does not exist)">Category:Brunel University London</a> to <a href="/wiki/Category:Brunel_University_of_London" title="Category:Brunel University of London">Category:Brunel University of London</a></li></ul></dd> <dd><b>Nominator's rationale:</b> The university has changed name after joining the University of London, see <a href="/wiki/Brunel_University_of_London" title="Brunel University of London">Brunel University of London</a>. <a href="/wiki/User:Elshad" title="User:Elshad">Elshad</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Elshad" title="User talk:Elshad">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2024_October_24#c-Elshad-20241024092600-Category:Brunel_University_London" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:26, 24 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Elshad-20241024092600-Category:Brunel_University_London"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241024092600","author":"Elshad","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Elshad-20241024092600-Category:Brunel_University_London","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Elshad-20241024092600-Category:Brunel_University_London"></span></dd></dl> <ul><li><b><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Timrollpickering-20241024101100-Category:Brunel_University_London"></span>Comment</b> Does this need a full nomination? Surely it could have been done at Speedy with the whole category tree. There's umpteen precedent for renaming categories when an institutuion's name changes. <a href="/wiki/User:Timrollpickering" title="User:Timrollpickering">Timrollpickering</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Timrollpickering" title="User talk:Timrollpickering">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2024_October_24#c-Timrollpickering-20241024101100-Category:Brunel_University_London" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:11, 24 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Timrollpickering-20241024101100-Category:Brunel_University_London"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241024101100","author":"Timrollpickering","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Timrollpickering-20241024101100-Category:Brunel_University_London","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Timrollpickering-20241024101100-Category:Brunel_University_London"></span></li> <li><b><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Thryduulf-20241025134300-Category:Brunel_University_London"></span>Speedy</b> per <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:C2D" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:C2D">C2D</a>. <a href="/wiki/User:Thryduulf" title="User:Thryduulf">Thryduulf</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Thryduulf" title="User talk:Thryduulf">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2024_October_24#c-Thryduulf-20241025134300-Category:Brunel_University_London" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:43, 25 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Thryduulf-20241025134300-Category:Brunel_University_London"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241025134300","author":"Thryduulf","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Thryduulf-20241025134300-Category:Brunel_University_London","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Thryduulf-20241025134300-Category:Brunel_University_London"></span></li> <li><b><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Fayenatic_london-20241025150100-Category:Brunel_University_London"></span>Support</b> but this is not eligible for Speedy, as it has <i>not</i> changed its name but only added a trading name.<a rel="nofollow" class="external autonumber" href="https://www.brunel.ac.uk/about/information">[3]</a> – <a href="/wiki/User:Fayenatic_london" title="User:Fayenatic london">Fayenatic</a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Fayenatic_london" title="User talk:Fayenatic london"><b><span style="color:#FF0000;">L</span></b>ondon</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2024_October_24#c-Fayenatic_london-20241025150100-Category:Brunel_University_London" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:01, 25 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Fayenatic_london-20241025150100-Category:Brunel_University_London"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241025150100","author":"Fayenatic london","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Fayenatic_london-20241025150100-Category:Brunel_University_London","replies":["c-Timrollpickering-20241027205000-Fayenatic_london-20241025150100"],"displayName":"Fayenatic"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Fayenatic_london-20241025150100-Category:Brunel_University_London"></span> <ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Timrollpickering-20241027205000-Fayenatic_london-20241025150100"></span>Universities tend to do that this way rather than formally amending their charter every time the branding department comes up with something anew. We shouldn't draw a distinction to require a full discussion every time one changes and the article is moved uncontroversially. <a href="/wiki/User:Timrollpickering" title="User:Timrollpickering">Timrollpickering</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Timrollpickering" title="User talk:Timrollpickering">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2024_October_24#c-Timrollpickering-20241027205000-Fayenatic_london-20241025150100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:50, 27 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Timrollpickering-20241027205000-Fayenatic_london-20241025150100"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241027205000","author":"Timrollpickering","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Timrollpickering-20241027205000-Fayenatic_london-20241025150100","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Timrollpickering-20241027205000-Fayenatic_london-20241025150100"></span></li></ul></li></ul> <hr/> <dl><dd><i>The above is preserved as an archive of the discussion. <span style="color:red"><b>Please do not modify it.</b></span> Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the category's <a href="/wiki/Help:Using_talk_pages" class="mw-redirect" title="Help:Using talk pages">talk page</a> or in a <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Deletion_review" title="Wikipedia:Deletion review">deletion review</a>). No further edits should be made to this section.</i></dd></dl></div> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading4"><h4 id="Category:History_of_Landskrona_by_topic" data-mw-thread-id="h-Category:History_of_Landskrona_by_topic-October_24-20241024061400"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Category:History_of_Landskrona_by_topic-October_24-20241024061400"></span>Category:History of Landskrona by topic<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Category:History_of_Landskrona_by_topic-October_24-20241024061400"></span></h4><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2024_October_24&action=edit&section=15" title="Edit section: Category:History of Landskrona by topic"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span></div> <div class="boilerplate cfd vfd xfd-closed mw-archivedtalk" style="background-color:#bff9fc; margin:0 auto; padding:0 10px 0 10px; border:1px solid #AAAAAA;"> <dl><dd><i><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-HouseBlaster-20241031234100-Category:History_of_Landskrona_by_topic"></span>The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more categories. <span style="color:red"><b>Please do not modify it.</b></span> Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the category's <a href="/wiki/Help:Using_talk_pages" class="mw-redirect" title="Help:Using talk pages">talk page</a> or in a <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Deletion_review" title="Wikipedia:Deletion review">deletion review</a>). No further edits should be made to this section.</i></dd></dl> <dl><dd><i>The result of the discussion was:</i> <b>merge</b>. <b><a href="/wiki/User:HouseBlaster" title="User:HouseBlaster">House</a><a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/HouseBlaster" title="Special:Contributions/HouseBlaster"><span style="color:#7D066B;">Blaster</span></a></b> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:HouseBlaster" title="User talk:HouseBlaster">talk</a> • he/they) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2024_October_24#c-HouseBlaster-20241031234100-Category:History_of_Landskrona_by_topic" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:41, 31 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-HouseBlaster-20241031234100-Category:History_of_Landskrona_by_topic"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span 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with only four subcategories, and after the merge the target will only have 6 entries. <a href="/wiki/User:Marcocapelle" title="User:Marcocapelle">Marcocapelle</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Marcocapelle" title="User talk:Marcocapelle">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2024_October_24#c-Marcocapelle-20241024061400-Category:History_of_Landskrona_by_topic" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">06:14, 24 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Marcocapelle-20241024061400-Category:History_of_Landskrona_by_topic"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span 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href="/wiki/User_talk:Fayenatic_london" title="User talk:Fayenatic london"><b><span style="color:#FF0000;">L</span></b>ondon</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2024_October_24#c-Fayenatic_london-20241025145300-Category:History_of_Landskrona_by_topic" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:53, 25 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Fayenatic_london-20241025145300-Category:History_of_Landskrona_by_topic"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241025145300","author":"Fayenatic 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No further edits should be made to this section.</i></dd></dl> <dl><dd><i>The result of the discussion was:</i> <b>merge</b>. <b><a href="/wiki/User:HouseBlaster" title="User:HouseBlaster">House</a><a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/HouseBlaster" title="Special:Contributions/HouseBlaster"><span style="color:#7D066B;">Blaster</span></a></b> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:HouseBlaster" title="User talk:HouseBlaster">talk</a> • he/they) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2024_October_24#c-HouseBlaster-20241031234100-Category:Centuries_in_Landskrona" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:41, 31 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-HouseBlaster-20241031234100-Category:Centuries_in_Landskrona"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241031234100","author":"HouseBlaster","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-HouseBlaster-20241031234100-Category:Centuries_in_Landskrona","replies":[],"displayName":"House"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-HouseBlaster-20241031234100-Category:Centuries_in_Landskrona"></span></dd></dl> <dl><dd><ul><li><b><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Marcocapelle-20241024061200-Category:Centuries_in_Landskrona"></span>Propose merging</b> <a href="/w/index.php?title=Category:Centuries_in_Landskrona&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Category:Centuries in Landskrona (page does not exist)">Category:Centuries in Landskrona</a> to <a href="/wiki/Category:History_of_Landskrona" title="Category:History of Landskrona">Category:History of Landskrona</a></li></ul></dd> <dd><b>Nominator's rationale:</b> <b>merge</b>, redundant category layer with only two subcategories. <a href="/wiki/User:Marcocapelle" title="User:Marcocapelle">Marcocapelle</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Marcocapelle" title="User talk:Marcocapelle">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2024_October_24#c-Marcocapelle-20241024061200-Category:Centuries_in_Landskrona" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">06:12, 24 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Marcocapelle-20241024061200-Category:Centuries_in_Landskrona"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241024061200","author":"Marcocapelle","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Marcocapelle-20241024061200-Category:Centuries_in_Landskrona","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Marcocapelle-20241024061200-Category:Centuries_in_Landskrona"></span></dd></dl> <ul><li><b><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Fayenatic_london-20241025144700-Category:Centuries_in_Landskrona"></span>Support</b>: Fair enough. There used to be others but they were merged per <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2024_October_12#Centuries_in_Landskrona" title="Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2024 October 12">Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2024_October_12#Centuries_in_Landskrona</a>. This nomination would remove Landskrona from <a href="/wiki/Category:History_of_the_%C3%98resund_Region_by_period" title="Category:History of the Øresund Region by period">Category:History of the Øresund Region by period</a>, but that's OK, it will still be within <a href="/wiki/Category:History_of_the_%C3%98resund_Region" title="Category:History of the Øresund Region">Category:History of the Øresund Region</a>. – <a href="/wiki/User:Fayenatic_london" title="User:Fayenatic london">Fayenatic</a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Fayenatic_london" title="User talk:Fayenatic london"><b><span style="color:#FF0000;">L</span></b>ondon</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2024_October_24#c-Fayenatic_london-20241025144700-Category:Centuries_in_Landskrona" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:47, 25 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Fayenatic_london-20241025144700-Category:Centuries_in_Landskrona"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241025144700","author":"Fayenatic london","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Fayenatic_london-20241025144700-Category:Centuries_in_Landskrona","replies":[],"displayName":"Fayenatic"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Fayenatic_london-20241025144700-Category:Centuries_in_Landskrona"></span></li></ul> <hr/> <dl><dd><i>The above is preserved as an archive of the discussion. <span style="color:red"><b>Please do not modify it.</b></span> Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the category's <a href="/wiki/Help:Using_talk_pages" class="mw-redirect" title="Help:Using talk pages">talk page</a> or in a <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Deletion_review" title="Wikipedia:Deletion review">deletion review</a>). 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No further edits should be made to this section.</i></dd></dl> <dl><dd><i>The result of the discussion was:</i> <b>rename</b>. <b><a href="/wiki/User:HouseBlaster" title="User:HouseBlaster">House</a><a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/HouseBlaster" title="Special:Contributions/HouseBlaster"><span style="color:#7D066B;">Blaster</span></a></b> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:HouseBlaster" title="User talk:HouseBlaster">talk</a> • he/they) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2024_October_24#c-HouseBlaster-20241031224100-Category:Pacific_Ocean_theatre_of_World_War_II" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:41, 31 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-HouseBlaster-20241031224100-Category:Pacific_Ocean_theatre_of_World_War_II"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241031224100","author":"HouseBlaster","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-HouseBlaster-20241031224100-Category:Pacific_Ocean_theatre_of_World_War_II","replies":[],"displayName":"House"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-HouseBlaster-20241031224100-Category:Pacific_Ocean_theatre_of_World_War_II"></span></dd></dl> <dl><dd><ul><li><b><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-LaundryPizza03-20241024040900-Category:Pacific_Ocean_theatre_of_World_War_II"></span>Propose renaming</b> <a href="/wiki/Category:Pacific_Ocean_theatre_of_World_War_II" title="Category:Pacific Ocean theatre of World War II">Category:Pacific Ocean theatre of World War II</a> to <a href="/wiki/Category:Pacific_Ocean_theater_of_World_War_II" title="Category:Pacific Ocean theater of World War II">Category:Pacific Ocean theater of World War II</a></li></ul></dd> <dd><b>Nominator's rationale:</b> Main article uses this spelling variant. –<a href="/wiki/User:LaundryPizza03" title="User:LaundryPizza03"><b style="color:#77b">Laundry</b><b style="color:#fb0">Pizza</b><b style="color:#b00">03</b></a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:LaundryPizza03" title="User talk:LaundryPizza03"><span style="color:#0d0">d</span></a><a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/LaundryPizza03" title="Special:Contributions/LaundryPizza03"><span style="color:#0bf">c̄</span></a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2024_October_24#c-LaundryPizza03-20241024040900-Category:Pacific_Ocean_theatre_of_World_War_II" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">04:09, 24 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-LaundryPizza03-20241024040900-Category:Pacific_Ocean_theatre_of_World_War_II"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241024040900","author":"LaundryPizza03","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-LaundryPizza03-20241024040900-Category:Pacific_Ocean_theatre_of_World_War_II","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-LaundryPizza03-20241024040900-Category:Pacific_Ocean_theatre_of_World_War_II"></span></dd></dl> <ul><li><b><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Marcocapelle-20241024045700-Category:Pacific_Ocean_theatre_of_World_War_II"></span>Support</b> per <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:C2D" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:C2D">WP:C2D</a>. <a href="/wiki/User:Marcocapelle" title="User:Marcocapelle">Marcocapelle</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Marcocapelle" title="User talk:Marcocapelle">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2024_October_24#c-Marcocapelle-20241024045700-Category:Pacific_Ocean_theatre_of_World_War_II" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">04:57, 24 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Marcocapelle-20241024045700-Category:Pacific_Ocean_theatre_of_World_War_II"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241024045700","author":"Marcocapelle","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Marcocapelle-20241024045700-Category:Pacific_Ocean_theatre_of_World_War_II","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Marcocapelle-20241024045700-Category:Pacific_Ocean_theatre_of_World_War_II"></span></li></ul> <ul><li><b><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-JarrahTree-20241024055000-Category:Pacific_Ocean_theatre_of_World_War_II"></span>Comment</b> the countries most obvious in this area are english variant spelling locations (it wasnt simply the US presence that were components of the action) suggest that both the article and category are given the credit of the non-us spelling <a href="/wiki/User:JarrahTree" title="User:JarrahTree">JarrahTree</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2024_October_24#c-JarrahTree-20241024055000-Category:Pacific_Ocean_theatre_of_World_War_II" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">05:50, 24 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-JarrahTree-20241024055000-Category:Pacific_Ocean_theatre_of_World_War_II"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span 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href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2024_October_24#c-JarrahTree-20241024061300-Category:Pacific_Ocean_theatre_of_World_War_II" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">06:13, 24 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-JarrahTree-20241024061300-Category:Pacific_Ocean_theatre_of_World_War_II"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241024061300","author":"JarrahTree","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-JarrahTree-20241024061300-Category:Pacific_Ocean_theatre_of_World_War_II","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-JarrahTree-20241024061300-Category:Pacific_Ocean_theatre_of_World_War_II"></span></li> <li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Fayenatic_london-20241025145700-Category:Pacific_Ocean_theatre_of_World_War_II"></span>OK but <b>redirect</b>. – <a href="/wiki/User:Fayenatic_london" title="User:Fayenatic london">Fayenatic</a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Fayenatic_london" title="User talk:Fayenatic london"><b><span style="color:#FF0000;">L</span></b>ondon</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2024_October_24#c-Fayenatic_london-20241025145700-Category:Pacific_Ocean_theatre_of_World_War_II" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:57, 25 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Fayenatic_london-20241025145700-Category:Pacific_Ocean_theatre_of_World_War_II"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span 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