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(sources are transferred) </p> <ul><li>Hi <a href="/wiki/User:Smcgrew1" title="User:Smcgrew1">Smcgrew1</a>, you can do this as long as you give proper attribution. In other words, as long as you note where you took the material from on Wikipedia, it should be fine. On a side note, this will need more sourcing to show notability, as the book doesn't inherit notability from its author, Kross. Stuff like reviews and other coverage in reliable sources like academic journals or newspapers should be able to help with this, though. <a href="/wiki/User:Shalor_(Wiki_Ed)" title="User:Shalor (Wiki Ed)">Shalor (Wiki Ed)</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Shalor_(Wiki_Ed)" title="User talk:Shalor (Wiki Ed)">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Sailing_Against_the_Wind#c-Shalor_(Wiki_Ed)-2017-04-19T14:47:00.000Z-Question" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:47, 19 April 2017 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Shalor_(Wiki_Ed)-2017-04-19T14:47:00.000Z-Question"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-04-19T14:47:00.000Z","author":"Shalor (Wiki Ed)","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Shalor_(Wiki_Ed)-2017-04-19T14:47:00.000Z-Question","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Shalor_(Wiki_Ed)-2017-04-19T14:47:00.000Z-Question"></span></li></ul> <!-- NewPP limit report Parsed by mw‐web.codfw.main‐78f4c97c5d‐jrzmx Cached time: 20241128235539 Cache expiry: 864000 Reduced expiry: true Complications: [vary‐revision‐sha1] DiscussionTools time usage: 0.008 seconds CPU time usage: 0.161 seconds Real time usage: 0.217 seconds Preprocessor visited node count: 753/1000000 Post‐expand include size: 31343/2097152 bytes Template argument size: 2309/2097152 bytes Highest expansion depth: 12/100 Expensive parser function count: 6/500 Unstrip recursion depth: 0/20 Unstrip post‐expand size: 19197/5000000 bytes Lua time usage: 0.119/10.000 seconds Lua memory usage: 1938767/52428800 bytes Number of Wikibase entities loaded: 0/400 --> <!-- Transclusion expansion time report (%,ms,calls,template) 100.00% 183.687 1 -total 98.65% 181.213 1 Template:WikiProject_banner_shell 35.69% 65.556 1 Template:WikiProject_Novels 22.87% 42.001 1 Template:WikiProject_Estonia 1.96% 3.607 1 Template:Tasks 1.28% 2.358 1 Template:U 0.55% 1.003 1 Template:Yesno --> <!-- Saved in parser cache with key enwiki:pcache:53821584:|#|:idhash:canonical and timestamp 20241128235539 and revision id 1205152574. 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