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(bot)">talk</a></li> <li><a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Qwerfjkl_(bot)" title="Special:Contributions/Qwerfjkl (bot)">contribs</a></li> <li><a href="https://xtools.wmcloud.org/ec/en.wikipedia.org/Qwerfjkl_(bot)" class="extiw" title="xtools:ec/en.wikipedia.org/Qwerfjkl (bot)">count</a></li> <li><a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:CentralAuth/Qwerfjkl_(bot)" class="extiw" title="sulutil:Qwerfjkl (bot)">SUL</a></li> <li><a href="/wiki/Special:Log/Qwerfjkl_(bot)" title="Special:Log/Qwerfjkl (bot)">logs</a></li> <li><a href="/wiki/Special:Log/move/Qwerfjkl_(bot)" title="Special:Log/move/Qwerfjkl (bot)">page moves</a></li> <li><a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Log/block&page=User:Qwerfjkl+%28bot%29">block log</a></li> <li><a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Log/rights&page=User:Qwerfjkl+%28bot%29">rights log</a></li> <li><a href="/wiki/Special:UserRights/Qwerfjkl_(bot)" title="Special:UserRights/Qwerfjkl (bot)">flag</a>)</li></ul> </div> <p><b>Operator:</b> <span><a href="/wiki/User:Qwerfjkl" title="User:Qwerfjkl">Qwerfjkl</a> <span class="plainlinks" style="font-size:90%">(<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Qwerfjkl" title="User talk:Qwerfjkl">talk</a> <b>·</b> <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Qwerfjkl" title="Special:Contributions/Qwerfjkl">contribs</a> <b>·</b> <a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:CentralAuth/Qwerfjkl" class="extiw" title="sulutil:Qwerfjkl">SUL</a> <b>·</b> <a href="https://xtools.wmcloud.org/ec/en.wikipedia.org/Qwerfjkl" class="extiw" title="xtools:ec/en.wikipedia.org/Qwerfjkl">edit count</a> <b>·</b> <a href="/wiki/Special:Log/Qwerfjkl" title="Special:Log/Qwerfjkl">logs</a> <b>·</b> <a href="/wiki/Special:Log/move/Qwerfjkl" title="Special:Log/move/Qwerfjkl">page moves</a> <b>·</b> <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Log/block&page=User:Qwerfjkl">block log</a> <b>·</b> <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Log/rights&page=User:Qwerfjkl">rights log</a> <b>·</b> <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Search&profile=advanced&search=Qwerfjkl+intitle%3A%22administrators%27+noticeboard%22&fulltext=Search&ns4=1">ANI search</a>)</span></span> </p><p><b>Time filed:</b> 16:37, Monday, October 9, 2023 (<a href="/wiki/UTC" class="mw-redirect" title="UTC">UTC</a>) </p><p><b>Automatic, Supervised, or Manual:</b> automatic </p><p><b><a href="/wiki/Programming_language" title="Programming language">Programming language</a>(s):</b> Python </p><p><b><a href="/wiki/Source_code" title="Source code">Source code</a> available:</b> pywikibot </p><p><b>Function overview:</b> Resend MassMessages at <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:VPM" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:VPM">WP:VPM</a>. </p><p><b>Links to relevant discussions (where appropriate):</b> <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Bot_requests/Archive_85#Forward_VPM_MassMessages_to_a_new_MassMessage_list" title="Wikipedia:Bot requests/Archive 85">Wikipedia:Bot requests/Archive 85#Forward VPM MassMessages to a new MassMessage list</a> </p><p><b>Edit period(s):</b> continious </p><p><b>Estimated number of pages affected:</b> Depends on how many users and themselves to the list and how frequently messages are posted at VPM. </p><p><b><a href="/wiki/Template:Bots" title="Template:Bots">Exclusion compliant</a></b> <i>(Yes/No)</i><b>:</b> No </p><p><b>Already has a bot flag</b> <i>(Yes/No)</i><b>:</b> Yes </p><p><b>Function details:</b> Major WMF announcements go to <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:VPM" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:VPM">WP:VPM</a> because it's listed at <a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Distribution_list/Global_message_delivery" class="extiw" title="m:Distribution list/Global message delivery">m:Distribution list/Global message delivery</a>. Users cannot subscribe there because it's for noticeboards. The bot would repost any MassMessages from VPM to a new MassMessage list. Example: <a href="/wiki/Special:Diff/1179359075" title="Special:Diff/1179359075">Special:Diff/1179359075</a>. </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading3"><h3 id="Discussion" data-mw-thread-id="h-Discussion-Qwerfjkl_(bot)_25-20231009164000"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Discussion-Qwerfjkl_(bot)_25-20231009164000"></span>Discussion<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Discussion-Qwerfjkl_(bot)_25-20231009164000"></span></h3><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Bots/Requests_for_approval/Qwerfjkl_(bot)_25&action=edit&section=2" title="Edit section: Discussion"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span></div> <ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-L235-20231009164000-Discussion"></span>Thanks for working on this, Qwerfjkl. Much appreciated. I think this could wind up being really helpful. Best, <b><a href="/wiki/User:L235" title="User:L235">KevinL</a></b> (<small>aka</small> <a href="/wiki/User:L235" title="User:L235">L235</a> <b>·</b> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:L235#top" title="User talk:L235">t</a> <b>·</b> <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/L235" title="Special:Contributions/L235">c</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Bots/Requests_for_approval/Qwerfjkl_(bot)_25#c-L235-20231009164000-Discussion" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:40, 9 October 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-L235-20231009164000-Discussion"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-L235-20231009164000-Discussion"></span></li></ul> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Primefac-20231024092100-Discussion"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/d0/Symbol_keep_vote.svg/20px-Symbol_keep_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="20" height="21" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/d0/Symbol_keep_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_keep_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/d0/Symbol_keep_vote.svg/40px-Symbol_keep_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></span></span> <b>Approved for trial (50 edits or 30 days, whichever happens first). Please provide a link to the relevant contributions and/or diffs when the trial is complete.</b> I think it would be a good idea to get this onto the Admin Newsletter and/or crosspost somewhere so that users know this is an option. <a href="/wiki/User:Primefac" title="User:Primefac">Primefac</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Primefac" title="User talk:Primefac">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Bots/Requests_for_approval/Qwerfjkl_(bot)_25#c-Primefac-20231024092100-Discussion" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:21, 24 October 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Primefac-20231024092100-Discussion"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Primefac-20231024092100-Discussion"></span> </p> <ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Qwerfjkl-20231024144300-Primefac-20231024092100"></span>@@<a href="/wiki/User:L235" title="User:L235">L235</a>, could you set up a MassMessage list for this?<span id="Qwerfjkl:1698158584628:WikipediaFTTCLNBots/Requests_for_approval/Qwerfjkl_(bot)_25" class="FTTCmt"> — <a href="/wiki/User:Qwerfjkl" title="User:Qwerfjkl"><span style="background:#1d9ffc; color:white; padding:5px; box-shadow:darkgray 2px 2px 2px;">Qwerfjkl</span></a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Qwerfjkl" title="User talk:Qwerfjkl"><span style="background:#79c0f2;color:white; padding:2px; box-shadow:darkgray 2px 2px 2px;">talk</span></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Bots/Requests_for_approval/Qwerfjkl_(bot)_25#c-Qwerfjkl-20231024144300-Primefac-20231024092100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:43, 24 October 2023 (UTC)</a></span><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Qwerfjkl-20231024144300-Primefac-20231024092100"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Qwerfjkl-20231024144300-Primefac-20231024092100"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-L235-20231024200600-Qwerfjkl-20231024144300"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:Qwerfjkl" title="User:Qwerfjkl">Qwerfjkl</a>: I've set one up at <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Village_pump_(miscellaneous)/Subscribe" title="Wikipedia:Village pump (miscellaneous)/Subscribe">Wikipedia:Village pump (miscellaneous)/Subscribe</a>. Once you get the trial going, I'll put out a few announcements that this is available. Thank you! Best, <b><a href="/wiki/User:L235" title="User:L235">KevinL</a></b> (<small>aka</small> <a href="/wiki/User:L235" title="User:L235">L235</a> <b>·</b> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:L235#top" title="User talk:L235">t</a> <b>·</b> <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/L235" title="Special:Contributions/L235">c</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Bots/Requests_for_approval/Qwerfjkl_(bot)_25#c-L235-20231024200600-Qwerfjkl-20231024144300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:06, 24 October 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-L235-20231024200600-Qwerfjkl-20231024144300"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-L235-20231024200600-Qwerfjkl-20231024144300"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Qwerfjkl-20231026140000-L235-20231024200600"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:L235" title="User:L235">L235</a>, okay, thanks. I've started the trial now. i'm not entirely sure if the code actually works, so ping me if there's a message at VPM that doesn't get sent.<span id="Qwerfjkl:1698328851409:WikipediaFTTCLNBots/Requests_for_approval/Qwerfjkl_(bot)_25" class="FTTCmt"> — <a href="/wiki/User:Qwerfjkl" title="User:Qwerfjkl"><span style="background:#1d9ffc; color:white; padding:5px; box-shadow:darkgray 2px 2px 2px;">Qwerfjkl</span></a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Qwerfjkl" title="User talk:Qwerfjkl"><span style="background:#79c0f2;color:white; padding:2px; box-shadow:darkgray 2px 2px 2px;">talk</span></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Bots/Requests_for_approval/Qwerfjkl_(bot)_25#c-Qwerfjkl-20231026140000-L235-20231024200600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:00, 26 October 2023 (UTC)</a><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Qwerfjkl-20231026140000-L235-20231024200600"></span></span><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Qwerfjkl-20231026140000-L235-20231024200600"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></li></ul> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Legoktm-20231111031800-Discussion"></span>Honestly the whole point of MassMessage was to remove bots from the message delivery process. Having users subscribe to WMF notifications seems like a reasonable use case, have you asked them to use a different delivery list in addition to the main one? <a href="/wiki/User:Legoktm" title="User:Legoktm">Legoktm</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Legoktm" title="User talk:Legoktm">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Bots/Requests_for_approval/Qwerfjkl_(bot)_25#c-Legoktm-20231111031800-Discussion" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">03:18, 11 November 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Legoktm-20231111031800-Discussion"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Legoktm-20231111031800-Discussion"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-L235-20231111215200-Legoktm-20231111031800"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:Legoktm" title="User:Legoktm">Legoktm</a>: Hm, the thing is, I want every MassMessage posted to VPM, but there are quite a few different lists that include VPM in the list. Best, <b><a href="/wiki/User:L235" title="User:L235">KevinL</a></b> (<small>aka</small> <a href="/wiki/User:L235" title="User:L235">L235</a> <b>·</b> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:L235#top" title="User talk:L235">t</a> <b>·</b> <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/L235" title="Special:Contributions/L235">c</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Bots/Requests_for_approval/Qwerfjkl_(bot)_25#c-L235-20231111215200-Legoktm-20231111031800" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:52, 11 November 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-L235-20231111215200-Legoktm-20231111031800"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-L235-20231111215200-Legoktm-20231111031800"></span></dd></dl> <p><span class="nowrap"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Primefac-20231231132600-Discussion"></span>{{</span><a href="/wiki/Template:Operator_assistance_needed" title="Template:Operator assistance needed">Operator assistance needed</a><span class="nowrap">}}</span> It has been more than a month since the last post, is this trial still ongoing? <a href="/wiki/User:Primefac" title="User:Primefac">Primefac</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Primefac" title="User talk:Primefac">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Bots/Requests_for_approval/Qwerfjkl_(bot)_25#c-Primefac-20231231132600-Discussion" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:26, 31 December 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Primefac-20231231132600-Discussion"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Primefac-20231231132600-Discussion"></span> </p> <ul><li><a href="/wiki/User:Primefac" title="User:Primefac"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Qwerfjkl-20231231162400-Primefac-20231231132600"></span>Primefac</a>, you can see from <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia%3AVillage+pump+%28miscellaneous%29&date-range-to=&tagfilter=massmessage-delivery&action=history">this</a> that there haven't been any messages since the trial started. Not much I can do about that.<span id="Qwerfjkl:1704039870326:WikipediaFTTCLNBots/Requests_for_approval/Qwerfjkl_(bot)_25" class="FTTCmt"> — <a href="/wiki/User:Qwerfjkl" title="User:Qwerfjkl"><span style="background:#1d9ffc; color:white; padding:5px; box-shadow:darkgray 2px 2px 2px;">Qwerfjkl</span></a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Qwerfjkl" title="User talk:Qwerfjkl"><span style="background:#79c0f2;color:white; padding:2px; box-shadow:darkgray 2px 2px 2px;">talk</span></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Bots/Requests_for_approval/Qwerfjkl_(bot)_25#c-Qwerfjkl-20231231162400-Primefac-20231231132600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:24, 31 December 2023 (UTC)</a></span><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Qwerfjkl-20231231162400-Primefac-20231231132600"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Qwerfjkl-20231231162400-Primefac-20231231132600"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Primefac-20231231162700-Qwerfjkl-20231231162400"></span>Interesting. <a href="/wiki/User:Primefac" title="User:Primefac">Primefac</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Primefac" title="User talk:Primefac">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Bots/Requests_for_approval/Qwerfjkl_(bot)_25#c-Primefac-20231231162700-Qwerfjkl-20231231162400" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:27, 31 December 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Primefac-20231231162700-Qwerfjkl-20231231162400"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Primefac-20231231162700-Qwerfjkl-20231231162400"></span></dd></dl></li></ul> <p><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-A_smart_kitten-20240119203000-Discussion"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:Qwerfjkl" title="User:Qwerfjkl">Qwerfjkl</a>:</span> FYI, I noticed in passing that <a href="/wiki/Special:Diff/1196720090" title="Special:Diff/1196720090">this MassMessage</a> got posted to VPM yesterday (and <a href="/wiki/Special:Diff/1197238047" title="Special:Diff/1197238047">this one</a> a couple of hours ago), but Qwerfjkl (bot) doesn't seem to have sent them. Best, ‍—‍<a href="/w/index.php?title=User:A_smart_kitten&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:A smart kitten (page does not exist)">a smart kitten</a><sub>[<a href="/wiki/User_talk:A_smart_kitten" title="User talk:A smart kitten">meow</a>]</sub> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Bots/Requests_for_approval/Qwerfjkl_(bot)_25#c-A_smart_kitten-20240119203000-Discussion" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:30, 19 January 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-A_smart_kitten-20240119203000-Discussion"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-A_smart_kitten-20240119203000-Discussion"></span> </p> <ul><li><a href="/w/index.php?title=User:A_smart_kitten&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:A smart kitten (page does not exist)"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Qwerfjkl-20240122162200-A_smart_kitten-20240119203000"></span>A smart kitten</a>, just looked into this. Appears I didn't have Beautiful Soup installed. It should work now.<span id="Qwerfjkl:1705940562141:WikipediaFTTCLNBots/Requests_for_approval/Qwerfjkl_(bot)_25" class="FTTCmt"> — <a href="/wiki/User:Qwerfjkl" title="User:Qwerfjkl"><span style="background:#1d9ffc; color:white; padding:5px; box-shadow:darkgray 2px 2px 2px;">Qwerfjkl</span></a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Qwerfjkl" title="User talk:Qwerfjkl"><span style="background:#79c0f2;color:white; padding:2px; box-shadow:darkgray 2px 2px 2px;">talk</span></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Bots/Requests_for_approval/Qwerfjkl_(bot)_25#c-Qwerfjkl-20240122162200-A_smart_kitten-20240119203000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:22, 22 January 2024 (UTC)</a></span><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Qwerfjkl-20240122162200-A_smart_kitten-20240119203000"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Qwerfjkl-20240122162200-A_smart_kitten-20240119203000"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-A_smart_kitten-20240221011000-Qwerfjkl-20240122162200"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:Qwerfjkl" title="User:Qwerfjkl">Qwerfjkl</a>: FYI, <span class="plainlinks"><a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=&diff=prev&oldid=1201442025">this</a></span> & <span class="plainlinks"><a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=&diff=prev&oldid=1206637608">this</a></span> also don't appear to have been sent. All the best, ‍—‍<a href="/w/index.php?title=User:A_smart_kitten&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:A smart kitten (page does not exist)">a smart kitten</a><sub>[<a href="/wiki/User_talk:A_smart_kitten" title="User talk:A smart kitten">meow</a>]</sub> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Bots/Requests_for_approval/Qwerfjkl_(bot)_25#c-A_smart_kitten-20240221011000-Qwerfjkl-20240122162200" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">01:10, 21 February 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-A_smart_kitten-20240221011000-Qwerfjkl-20240122162200"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-A_smart_kitten-20240221011000-Qwerfjkl-20240122162200"></span> <dl><dd><a href="/w/index.php?title=User:A_smart_kitten&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:A smart kitten (page does not exist)"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Qwerfjkl-20240221212500-A_smart_kitten-20240221011000"></span>A smart kitten</a>, I think I didn't properly fix the issue last time. I've confirmed that it's working now (at the cost of briefly breaking all of the tasks running on toolforge), so it should work next time.<span id="Qwerfjkl:1708550719036:WikipediaFTTCLNBots/Requests_for_approval/Qwerfjkl_(bot)_25" class="FTTCmt"> — <a href="/wiki/User:Qwerfjkl" title="User:Qwerfjkl"><span style="background:#1d9ffc; color:white; padding:5px; box-shadow:darkgray 2px 2px 2px;">Qwerfjkl</span></a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Qwerfjkl" title="User talk:Qwerfjkl"><span style="background:#79c0f2;color:white; padding:2px; box-shadow:darkgray 2px 2px 2px;">talk</span></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Bots/Requests_for_approval/Qwerfjkl_(bot)_25#c-Qwerfjkl-20240221212500-A_smart_kitten-20240221011000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:25, 21 February 2024 (UTC)</a><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Qwerfjkl-20240221212500-A_smart_kitten-20240221011000"></span></span><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Qwerfjkl-20240221212500-A_smart_kitten-20240221011000"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></li> <li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Qwerfjkl-20240301152100-A_smart_kitten-20240119203000"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:Primefac" title="User:Primefac">Primefac</a>, @<a href="/wiki/User:L235" title="User:L235">KevinL</a>, <span typeof="mw:File"><span><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/4/49/Symbol_watching_blue_lashes.svg/20px-Symbol_watching_blue_lashes.svg.png" decoding="async" width="20" height="21" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/4/49/Symbol_watching_blue_lashes.svg/30px-Symbol_watching_blue_lashes.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/4/49/Symbol_watching_blue_lashes.svg/40px-Symbol_watching_blue_lashes.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></span></span> <b>Trial complete.</b> <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Village_pump_(miscellaneous)/Archive_77#Ukraine's_Cultural_Diplomacy_Month_2024:_We_are_back!" title="Wikipedia:Village pump (miscellaneous)/Archive 77">This message on VPM</a> was sent to <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Qwerfjkl#Ukraine's_Cultural_Diplomacy_Month_2024:_We_are_back!" title="User talk:Qwerfjkl">my talk page</a>. Apologies for the delays.<span id="Qwerfjkl:1709306510872:WikipediaFTTCLNBots/Requests_for_approval/Qwerfjkl_(bot)_25" class="FTTCmt"> — <a href="/wiki/User:Qwerfjkl" title="User:Qwerfjkl"><span style="background:#1d9ffc; color:white; padding:5px; box-shadow:darkgray 2px 2px 2px;">Qwerfjkl</span></a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Qwerfjkl" title="User talk:Qwerfjkl"><span style="background:#79c0f2;color:white; padding:2px; box-shadow:darkgray 2px 2px 2px;">talk</span></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Bots/Requests_for_approval/Qwerfjkl_(bot)_25#c-Qwerfjkl-20240301152100-A_smart_kitten-20240119203000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:21, 1 March 2024 (UTC)</a></span><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Qwerfjkl-20240301152100-A_smart_kitten-20240119203000"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Qwerfjkl-20240301152100-A_smart_kitten-20240119203000"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Primefac-20240310210400-Qwerfjkl-20240301152100"></span>Should the message placed on the user talk page not indicate from whence the message originated? I feel like that would lead to a lot of decentralised discussions if for example you were to reply at your talk page if there is potentially already a long thread of discussion at VPM. <a href="/wiki/User:Primefac" title="User:Primefac">Primefac</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Primefac" title="User talk:Primefac">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Bots/Requests_for_approval/Qwerfjkl_(bot)_25#c-Primefac-20240310210400-Qwerfjkl-20240301152100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:04, 10 March 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Primefac-20240310210400-Qwerfjkl-20240301152100"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Primefac-20240310210400-Qwerfjkl-20240301152100"></span> <dl><dd><a href="/wiki/User:Primefac" title="User:Primefac"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Qwerfjkl-20240310213900-Primefac-20240310210400"></span>Primefac</a>, how should I indicate that? A link in the section header, or just below that, or at the bottom of the message? (Feel free to edit any of the VPM messages on my userpage to illustrate what you mean.)<span id="Qwerfjkl:1710106746401:WikipediaFTTCLNBots/Requests_for_approval/Qwerfjkl_(bot)_25" class="FTTCmt"> — <a href="/wiki/User:Qwerfjkl" title="User:Qwerfjkl"><span style="background:#1d9ffc; color:white; padding:5px; box-shadow:darkgray 2px 2px 2px;">Qwerfjkl</span></a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Qwerfjkl" title="User talk:Qwerfjkl"><span style="background:#79c0f2;color:white; padding:2px; box-shadow:darkgray 2px 2px 2px;">talk</span></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Bots/Requests_for_approval/Qwerfjkl_(bot)_25#c-Qwerfjkl-20240310213900-Primefac-20240310210400" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:39, 10 March 2024 (UTC)</a></span><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Qwerfjkl-20240310213900-Primefac-20240310210400"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Qwerfjkl-20240310213900-Primefac-20240310210400"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Primefac-20240311074800-Qwerfjkl-20240310213900"></span>I probably should have checked the diff itself, I didn't see that you included a permalink to the original discussion. I was mainly wanting to check that the recipient knew that it was coming via VPM rather than a "direct" mass message. <a href="/wiki/User:Primefac" title="User:Primefac">Primefac</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Primefac" title="User talk:Primefac">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Bots/Requests_for_approval/Qwerfjkl_(bot)_25#c-Primefac-20240311074800-Qwerfjkl-20240310213900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">07:48, 11 March 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Primefac-20240311074800-Qwerfjkl-20240310213900"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Primefac-20240311074800-Qwerfjkl-20240310213900"></span> <dl><dd><a href="/wiki/User:Primefac" title="User:Primefac"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Qwerfjkl-20240311164800-Primefac-20240311074800"></span>Primefac</a>, that's an invisible comment though.<span id="Qwerfjkl:1710175693378:WikipediaFTTCLNBots/Requests_for_approval/Qwerfjkl_(bot)_25" class="FTTCmt"> — <a href="/wiki/User:Qwerfjkl" title="User:Qwerfjkl"><span style="background:#1d9ffc; color:white; padding:5px; box-shadow:darkgray 2px 2px 2px;">Qwerfjkl</span></a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Qwerfjkl" title="User talk:Qwerfjkl"><span style="background:#79c0f2;color:white; padding:2px; box-shadow:darkgray 2px 2px 2px;">talk</span></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Bots/Requests_for_approval/Qwerfjkl_(bot)_25#c-Qwerfjkl-20240311164800-Primefac-20240311074800" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:48, 11 March 2024 (UTC)</a></span><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Qwerfjkl-20240311164800-Primefac-20240311074800"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Qwerfjkl-20240311164800-Primefac-20240311074800"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Primefac-20240311200900-Qwerfjkl-20240311164800"></span>True. Do you think it would be better as a visible one? In thinking about it more, I do suppose that a mass message is sent by a single person and not necessarily meant to be replied to in a central location, so I am becoming less concerned with indicating the message's origin (though I do still think the hidden comment is a good idea at minimum). <a href="/wiki/User:Primefac" title="User:Primefac">Primefac</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Primefac" title="User talk:Primefac">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Bots/Requests_for_approval/Qwerfjkl_(bot)_25#c-Primefac-20240311200900-Qwerfjkl-20240311164800" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:09, 11 March 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Primefac-20240311200900-Qwerfjkl-20240311164800"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Primefac-20240311200900-Qwerfjkl-20240311164800"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Qwerfjkl-20240311211700-Primefac-20240311200900"></span>The invisible comment is automatically generated by the MassMessage. I might add a note just below the header.<span id="Qwerfjkl:1710191830269:WikipediaFTTCLNBots/Requests_for_approval/Qwerfjkl_(bot)_25" class="FTTCmt"> — <a href="/wiki/User:Qwerfjkl" title="User:Qwerfjkl"><span style="background:#1d9ffc; color:white; padding:5px; box-shadow:darkgray 2px 2px 2px;">Qwerfjkl</span></a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Qwerfjkl" title="User talk:Qwerfjkl"><span style="background:#79c0f2;color:white; padding:2px; box-shadow:darkgray 2px 2px 2px;">talk</span></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Bots/Requests_for_approval/Qwerfjkl_(bot)_25#c-Qwerfjkl-20240311211700-Primefac-20240311200900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:17, 11 March 2024 (UTC)</a><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Qwerfjkl-20240311211700-Primefac-20240311200900"></span></span><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Qwerfjkl-20240311211700-Primefac-20240311200900"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span></dd> <dd><a href="/wiki/User:Primefac" title="User:Primefac"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Qwerfjkl-20240312172400-Primefac-20240311200900"></span>Primefac</a>, would something like <a href="/wiki/Special:Diff/1213371988" title="Special:Diff/1213371988">this</a> be alright?<span id="Qwerfjkl:1710264247534:WikipediaFTTCLNBots/Requests_for_approval/Qwerfjkl_(bot)_25" class="FTTCmt"> — <a href="/wiki/User:Qwerfjkl" title="User:Qwerfjkl"><span style="background:#1d9ffc; color:white; padding:5px; box-shadow:darkgray 2px 2px 2px;">Qwerfjkl</span></a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Qwerfjkl" title="User talk:Qwerfjkl"><span style="background:#79c0f2;color:white; padding:2px; box-shadow:darkgray 2px 2px 2px;">talk</span></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Bots/Requests_for_approval/Qwerfjkl_(bot)_25#c-Qwerfjkl-20240312172400-Primefac-20240311200900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:24, 12 March 2024 (UTC)</a></span><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Qwerfjkl-20240312172400-Primefac-20240311200900"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Qwerfjkl-20240312172400-Primefac-20240311200900"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Primefac-20240312172900-Qwerfjkl-20240312172400"></span>Sure, that's fine. I think when I approve this I'll leave it open-ended to allow for changes to the hatnote to be made as-needed (i.e. if there's more feedback about how to word/link/show it). <a href="/wiki/User:Primefac" title="User:Primefac">Primefac</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Primefac" title="User talk:Primefac">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Bots/Requests_for_approval/Qwerfjkl_(bot)_25#c-Primefac-20240312172900-Qwerfjkl-20240312172400" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:29, 12 March 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Primefac-20240312172900-Qwerfjkl-20240312172400"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Primefac-20240312172900-Qwerfjkl-20240312172400"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></li></ul> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Primefac-20240313124300-Discussion"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/4/41/Symbol_confirmed.svg/20px-Symbol_confirmed.svg.png" decoding="async" width="20" height="21" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/4/41/Symbol_confirmed.svg/30px-Symbol_confirmed.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/4/41/Symbol_confirmed.svg/40px-Symbol_confirmed.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></span></span> <b>Approved.</b> As discussed above, the important part is copying the original message itself. If the "copied from" hatnote needs modification or removal (or something else) then it can be handled without any modification of this task. <a href="/wiki/User:Primefac" title="User:Primefac">Primefac</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Primefac" title="User talk:Primefac">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Bots/Requests_for_approval/Qwerfjkl_(bot)_25#c-Primefac-20240313124300-Discussion" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:43, 13 March 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Primefac-20240313124300-Discussion"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Primefac-20240313124300-Discussion"></span> </p> <dl><dd><i>The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. <span style="color:red"><b>Please do not modify it.</b></span> To request review of this BRFA, please start a new section at <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Bots/Noticeboard" title="Wikipedia:Bots/Noticeboard">Wikipedia:Bots/Noticeboard</a>.</i></dd></dl></div>    </div><noscript><img src="https://login.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:CentralAutoLogin/start?type=1x1" alt="" width="1" height="1" style="border: none; position: absolute;"></noscript> <div class="printfooter" data-nosnippet="">Retrieved from "<a dir="ltr" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Bots/Requests_for_approval/Qwerfjkl_(bot)_25&oldid=1214433860">https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Bots/Requests_for_approval/Qwerfjkl_(bot)_25&oldid=1214433860</a>"</div></div> <div id="catlinks" class="catlinks" data-mw="interface"><div id="mw-normal-catlinks" class="mw-normal-catlinks"><a href="/wiki/Help:Category" title="Help:Category">Category</a>: <ul><li><a href="/wiki/Category:Approved_Wikipedia_bot_requests_for_approval" title="Category:Approved Wikipedia bot requests for approval">Approved Wikipedia bot requests for approval</a></li></ul></div></div> </div> </main> </div> <div class="mw-footer-container"> <footer id="footer" class="mw-footer" > <ul id="footer-info"> <li id="footer-info-lastmod"> This page was last edited on 18 March 2024, at 23:02<span class="anonymous-show"> (UTC)</span>.</li> <li id="footer-info-copyright">Text is available under the <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Text_of_the_Creative_Commons_Attribution-ShareAlike_4.0_International_License" title="Wikipedia:Text of the Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike 4.0 International License">Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike 4.0 License</a>; additional terms may apply. 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