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His modern followers see him as a prophet. His prophecies have a magical quality for those who study them: They are muddled and obscure before the predicted event, but become crystal clear after the event has occurred.</font></p> <p style="text-align: left"> <font face="Arial" size="3">Nostradamus wrote four-line verses (quatrains) in groups of 100 (centuries). (Note: All quatrains below in modern French are translations from <a href="http://web.archive.org/web/20010622224052/esoterism.com/nostradamus/bien2.htm">esoterism.com</a>. The translator prefers to remain anonymous.) Skeptics consider the &quot;prophecies&quot; of Nostradamus to be mainly gibberish. For example:</font></p> <font SIZE="3"><blockquote> <p><strong style="font-weight: 400; font-style: italic"> <font face="Arial" size="3">L'an mil neuf cens nonante neuf sept mois<br> Du ciel viendra grand Roy deffrayeur<br> Resusciter le grand Roy d'Angoumois.<a href="#note">*</a><br> Avant apr猫s Mars r茅gner par bonheur.</font></strong></p> </blockquote> <blockquote> <p><font face="Arial" size="3"><strong style="font-weight: 400">The year 1999 seven months<br> From the sky will come the great King of Terror.<br> To resuscitate the great king of the Mongols. Before and after Mars reigns by good luck. (X.72)<a href="http://www.astrologer.ru:8003/Nostradamiana/centuries-eng.html">*</a></strong></font></p> </blockquote> <p style="text-align: left"><font face="Arial" size="3">Nobody, not even the most fanatical of Nostradamus's disciples, had a clue what this passage might have meant before July 1999. However, after John F. Kennedy Jr., his wife Carolyn Bessette and her sister Lauren Bessette, were killed in a plane crash on July 18, 1999, the retroprophets <a href="shoehorning.html">shoehorned</a> the event to the &quot;prophecy.&quot; Here is just one example culled from the Internet:</font></p> <blockquote> <p><font face="Arial" size="3">Could the crash of John F. Kennedy Jr.'s airplane in July of 1999 fulfill the line &quot;from the sky will come &quot;the great King of Terror&quot;? Could the human fear of death and bodily injury be the intended definition of &quot;the great King of Terror&quot;? It might be possible!<a href="http://www.nostradamususa.com/html/untitled5.html">*</a></font></p> </blockquote> <p style="text-align: left"><font face="Arial" size="3">&quot;It might be possible&quot;--now <i>there</i> is a precise bit of terminology. Other disciples were generous enough to think that Nostradamus was referring to a solar eclipse that would occur on August 11, 1999. Others feared a NASA space probe would come crashing down on earth.</font></p> <p style="text-align: left"><font face="Arial" size="3">Some claim that Nostradamus predicted the <i>Challenger</i> space shuttle disaster on January 28, 1986. Of course, they didn't recognize that he had predicted it until it was too late. Here is the passage:</font></p> <blockquote> <p><i><font face="Arial"><font size="3">D'humain troupeau neuf seront mis 脿 part,<br> De jugement &amp; conseil separ茅s:<br> Leur sort sera divis茅 en d茅part,<br> Kappa, Thita, Lambda mors bannis 茅gar茅s.</font></font></i><font size="3" face="Arial"><br> <br> From the human flock nine will be sent away,<br> Separated from judgment and counsel:<br> Their fate will be sealed on departure</strong><br> Kappa, Thita, Lambda the banished dead err (I.81).</strong></font></p> </blockquote> <p style="text-align: left"><font face="Arial" size="3">Thiokol made the defective O-ring that is blamed for the disaster. The name has a 'k', 'th' and an 'l'. Never mind that there were seven who died, not nine. The rest is vague enough to retrofit many different scenarios. </font> </p> <p style="text-align: left"><font face="Arial" size="3">True believers, such as Erika Cheetham (<i>The Final Prophecies of Nostradamus</i>, 1989), believe that Nostradamus foresaw the invention of bombs, rockets, submarines, and airplanes. He predicted the Great Fire of London (1666) and the rise of Adolph Hitler and many other events. </font> </p> <p style="text-align: left"><font face="Arial" size="3">Skeptics cast doubt upon the interpretation of Nostradamus's quatrains (<a href="http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ISBN=0879758309/roberttoddcarrolA/">Randi 1993</a>). Here is how James Randi and Cheetham read one of the more famous quatrains, allegedly predicting the rise of Adolph Hitler to power in Germany: </font> </p> <blockquote> <p><i><font size="3" face="Arial">B锚tes farouches de faim fleuves tranner</font></i><font size="3" face="Arial">;<br> <i>Plus part du champ encore Hister sera,</i> <br> <i>En caige de fer le grand sera treisner,</i> <br> <i>Quand rien enfant de Germain observa. </i>(II.24)</font></p> </blockquote> <p style="text-align: left"><font face="Arial" size="3">Cheetham's version: </font> </p> <blockquote> <p><font face="Arial" size="3"><strong style="font-weight: 400">Beasts wild with hunger will cross the rivers, <br> The greater part of the battle will be against Hitler. <br> He will cause great men to be dragged in a cage of iron, <br> When the son of Germany obeys no law.</strong></font></p> </blockquote> <p style="text-align: left"><font face="Arial" size="3">Randi's version: </font> </p> <blockquote> <p><font face="Arial" size="3"><strong style="font-weight: 400">Beasts mad with hunger will swim across rivers, <br> Most of the army will be against the Lower Danube. <br> The great one shall be dragged in an iron cage <br> When the child brother will observe nothing.</strong></font></p> </blockquote> <p style="text-align: left"><font face="Arial" size="3">Neither translation seems to make much sense, but at least Randi's recognizes that &quot;Hister&quot; refers to a geographical region, not a person. So does &quot;Germania,&quot; by the way; it refers to an ancient region of Europe, north of the Danube and east of the Rhine. It may also refer to a part of the Roman Empire, corresponding to present-day northeastern France and part of Belgium and the Netherlands. (Because Hister is an ancient name for the Danube region near Hitler's childhood home, some think the reference is clearly to him.)</font></p> <p align="center"><font face="Arial" size="3" color="#006699"><b>September 11, 2001</b> </font> </p> <p align="left"><font face="Arial" size="3">After the terrorist skyjackings and attacks in the United States on September 11, 2001, a rumor was spread that Nostradamus had predicted it. The following quatrains were offered as proof:</font></p> <blockquote> <p align="left"><font face="Arial" size="3">In the year of the new century and nine months,<br> From the sky will come a great King of Terror...&nbsp;<br> The sky will burn at forty-five degrees.<br> Fire approaches the great new city...<br> <br> In the city of York there will be a great collapse,<br> 2 twin brothers torn apart by chaos<br> While the fortress falls the great leader will succumb<br> Third big war will begin when the big city is burning.</font></p> </blockquote> <p align="left"><font face="Arial" size="3">These quatrains are <a href="http://www.snopes2.com/rumors/predict.htm">hoaxes</a>. The first two lines seem to be an alteration of Centuries X, quatrain 72:</font></p> <blockquote> <p align="left"><font face="Arial" size="3"><i>L'an mil neuf cent nonante neuf sept mois,<br> Du ciel viendra un grand Roi d'Angoumois.</i></font></p> </blockquote> <p align="left"><font face="Arial" size="3">Or in English,</font></p> <blockquote> <p align="left"><font face="Arial" size="3">The year 1999 seven months&nbsp;<br> From the sky will come the great King of Terror<font color="#990000">.<a href="http://www.astrologer.ru:8003/Nostradamiana/centuries-eng.html">*</a></font></font></p> </blockquote> <p align="left"><font face="Arial" size="3">There is no reference in Nostradamus to &quot;the new century and nine months.&quot;</font></p> <p style="text-align: left"><font face="Arial" size="3">The next two lines are from Centuries VI, quatrain 97.</font></p> <blockquote> <p align="left"><font face="Arial" size="3">Cinq et quarante degr茅s ciel br没lera,<br> Feu approcher de la grand cit茅 neuve,</font></p> </blockquote> <p align="left"><font face="Arial" size="3">Or in English,</font></p> <blockquote> <p align="left"><font face="Arial" size="3">At forty-five degrees the sky will burn,<br> Fire to approach the great new city:</font></p> </blockquote> <p align="left"><font face="Arial" size="3">Some rumormongers speculated that 45 degrees refers to the latitude of New York, but the <a href="http://www.bcca.org/misc/qiblih/latlong_us.html#NEWxYORK">latitude</a> in Central Park is 40掳 47' N. Any but the dimmest bulb should be able to shoehorn &quot;at 45 degrees the sky will burn&quot; with some aspect of the terrorist attacks. The remainder of VI.97 is</font></p> <blockquote> <p align="left"><i><font face="Arial" size="3">Instant grand flamme 茅parse sautera,<br> Quand on voudra des Normans faire preuue,</font></i></p> </blockquote> <p align="left"><font face="Arial" size="3">Or in English,</font></p> <blockquote> <p align="left"><font face="Arial" size="3">In an instant a great scattered flame will leap up,<br> When one will want to demand proof of the Normans.</font></p> </blockquote> <p align="left"><font face="Arial" size="3">The only thing in these lines that is even vaguely close to what happened is the mention of &quot;a great scattered flame.&quot; Even the dimmest should be bright enough to find some way to connect &quot;<a href="http://www.wsu.edu:8080/~dee/MA/NORMANS.HTM">Normans</a>&quot; giving &quot;proof&quot; with what happened. (&quot;In 911, a group of Scandinavian raiders under the leadership of Rollo sailed up the Seine and forced the French king to cede French territory.&quot; Coincidence?)</font></p> <p style="text-align: left"><font face="Arial" size="3">The only thing more detestable than these hoaxes are the <a href="psychic.html">psychics</a> such as <a href="http://skepdic.master.com/texis/master/search/?db=sites/skepdic.com&query=&quot;sylvia+browne&quot;">Silvia Browne</a>, <a href="http://www.patriciamclaine.com/">Patricia McLaine</a>, and <a href="vanpraagh.html">James Van Praagh</a>. who claimed <i>after the fact</i> that they predicted the attacks. Browne even had the chutzpah to claim she couldn't tell us the details in advance because she's not &quot;omniscient.&quot; One does not need to be psychic to know that.</font></p> <p align="left"><font face="Arial" size="3">According to Barbara and David P. Mikkelson's <a href="http://www.snopes2.com/rumors/predict.htm">Urban Legends page</a>, one of the hoaxed quatrains was written in 1997 by <a href="http://psychicinvestigator.com/demo/NostrS5.htm">Neil Marshall</a>, a Brock University (Canada) student. Marshall wanted &quot;to demonstrate ... that the writings of Nostradamus are so cryptic that they can be interpreted to mean almost anything.&quot; If we have some imagination, we can shoehorn just about any event to some passage in Nostradamus, or <a href="http://skepdic.com/refuge/bunk17.html#dylan">Bob Dylan</a>, for that matter.&nbsp;In 1981, Dylan wrote a song called <i> Angelina</i>, which is as clear a prediction of September 11 as anything Nostradamus wrote:</font></p> <blockquote> <p align="left"><font face="Arial" size="3">There's a black Mercedes rolling through the combat&nbsp;&nbsp; zone....<br> Your servants are half-dead, you're down to the bone....<br> I see pieces of men marching, trying to take heaven by force....<br> In the valley of the giants where the stars and stripes explode....<br> Begging God [sic] for mercy and weeping in unholy places.</font></p> </blockquote> <p style="text-align: left"><font face="Arial" size="3">Finally, there is the view of&nbsp; <a href="http://www.rationalistinternational.net/associates/jc_pecker.htm">Jean-Claude Pecker</a> of the Coll猫ge de France in Paris. He maintains that Nostradamus described not <i>future</i> events but events of his own and earlier times. According to Pecker, Nostradamus disguised &quot;them in a sort of coded French&quot; because &quot;in his troubled period&quot; he was &quot;under constant threat&quot; (<i>Skeptical Inquirer,</i> September/October 2001, p. 81).</font></p> <p style="text-align: left"><font face="Arial" size="3">One thing Nostradamus didn't predict was that he would become a one-man industry in the 20th century. Publishing houses will never go broke printing the latest predictions culled from the manuscripts of Nostradamus.</font></p> <p style="text-align: left"><font face="Arial" size="3"><b><a name="note">*note</a>:</b> <i>&quot;Angoumois&quot; is the name of an ancient province whose capital was Angoul锚me (120 km NNE from Bordeaux and 120km ESE from La Rochelle).</i> Andr茅 Trichet.</font></p> <p style="text-align: left"><font face="Arial"><strong><font size="3">See also </font> </strong><font size="3"><a href="bibcode.html">Bible Code</a>, <a href="clairvoy.html">clairvoyance</a>, <a href="cayce.html">Edgar Cayce</a>&nbsp; <a href="dixon.html">Jean Dixon</a>,&nbsp;</font></font><font size="3" face="Arial"><a href="doomsday.html">doomsday &amp; doomsday cults</a>, <a href="tifraud.html">Frauds, Hoaxes, Conspiracies</a>, <a href="retroactiveclairvoyance.html">retroactive clairvoyance</a>, and <a href="selectiv.html">selective thinking</a>.</font></p> <hr width="25%" align="left" noshade> <p><font face="Arial" size="3"><b>further reading</b></font></p> <p style="text-align: left"><font face="Arial" size="3"><b><a href="comments/nostracom.html">reader comments</a></b></font> <p style="text-align: left"><b><font face="Arial" size="3">books and articles</font></b> <p style="text-align: left"> <font face="Arial" size="3">&nbsp;<a href="http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ISBN=1573920215/roberttoddcarrolA/">Diaconis, Persi and Frederick Mosteller, &quot;Coincidences,&quot; in <i>The Encyclopedia of the Paranormal</i>, ed. G. Stein (Amherst, N.Y.: Prometheus Books, 1996).</a> </font> <p style="text-align: left"><font face="Arial" size="3"><a HREF="http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ISBN=0879754192/roberttoddcarrolA/">Hines, Terence. <i>Pseudoscience and the Paranormal </i>(Buffalo, NY: Prometheus Books, 1990).</a></font></p> <p style="text-align: left"><font face="Arial" size="3"> <a href="http://www.csicop.org/si/show/coincidences_remarkable_or_random/">Martin, Bruce. &quot;Coincidences: Remarkable or Random?&quot; in <em>The Skeptical Inquirer</em>, September/October 1998.</a></font></p> <p style="text-align: left"><font face="Arial" size="3">Pecker, J.C. 1984. &quot;Des lyonnes en grimoire dans Ravenne,&quot;<i> Le D茅bat-Gallimard</i>, mars.</font></p> <p style="text-align: left"><font face="Arial" size="3">Pr茅vost, Roger. <i>Nostradamus, le Mythe et la r茅alit茅: un histoiren au temps des astrologues</i> (Robert Laffont, Paris: 1999).</font></p> <p style="text-align: left"> <font face="Arial" size="3"> <a href="http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ISBN=0879758309/roberttoddcarrolA/">Randi, James. <i>The Mask of Nostradamus : the prophecies of the world's most famous seer </i>(Buffalo, N.Y. : Prometheus Books, 1993).</a> <strong><a href="http://www.hutch.demon.co.uk/prom/nostreview.htm">review</a></strong></font><p style="text-align: left"> <strong><font face="Arial" size="3">websites</font></strong><p style="text-align: left"> <font face="Arial" size="3"><a href="http://www.straightdope.com/mailbag/mnostradamus.html">Did Nostradamus predict the day his tomb would be discovered?</a> The Straight Dope by Cecil Adams</font></p> <p style="text-align: left"><font face="Arial" size="3"><a href="http://www.mabus.biz/nos/">The Complete Nostradamus</a> from Mabus</font></p> <p style="text-align: left"><font face="Arial" size="3"><a href="http://esoterism.com/nostradamus/bien2.htm"><i>Centuries</i> in original, modern French, and English</a></font></p> <p style="text-align: left"><font face="Arial" size="3"><a href="http://www.astrologer.ru:8003/Nostradamiana/centuries-eng.html">Nostradamiana</a> - quatrains in French &amp; English</font></p> <p style="text-align: left"><font face="Arial" size="3"><a href="http://www.alumni.caltech.edu/~jamesf/Nfaqs.html">Nostradamus FAQ</a></font></p> <p style="text-align: left"><font face="Arial" size="3"><a HREF="http://www.alumni.caltech.edu/~jamesf/hitch.html">Hitchhiker's Guide to Nostradamus</a></font></p> <p style="text-align: left"><font face="Arial" size="3"><a HREF="http://www.activemind.com/Mysterious/Topics/Nostradamus/links.html">Nostradamus: Links</a></font></p> <p style="text-align: left"><font face="Arial" size="3"><a href="http://www.nostradamususa.com/">The Nostradamus Society of America</a></font></p> <p></webContent>Last updated <!-- #BeginDate format:En1 -->27-oct-15<!-- #EndDate --> </p> </div> </div> <div class="right"> <div class="right_it"> <div class="search"> <form method="get" action="http://www.google.com/custom" target="_top"> <input type="hidden" name="domains" value="skepdic.com" /> <input type="text" name="q" maxlength="255" value="" size="20" /> <input type="submit" name="sa" value="Search" /> <br /> <div class="search_2"> <input type="radio" name="sitesearch" value="" /> Web &nbsp; &nbsp; <input type="radio" name="sitesearch" value="skepdic.com" checked="checked" /> Skepdic.com <br /> <img src="_images/logo_google.gif" alt="Google" width="48" height="19" /> </div> <input type="hidden" name="client" value="pub-3542920166946725" /> <input type="hidden" name="forid" value="1" /> <input type="hidden" name="ie" value="ISO-8859-1" /> <input type="hidden" name="oe" value="ISO-8859-1" /> <input type="hidden" name="cof" value="GALT:#008000;GL:1;DIV:#336699;VLC:663399;AH:center;BGC:FFFFFF;LBGC:336699;ALC:0000FF;LC:0000FF;T:000000;GFNT:0000FF;GIMP:0000FF;FORID:1;" /> <input type="hidden" name="hl" value="en" /> </form> </div> <div class="center"> <p align="right"><a href="http://skepdic.com/authorpage.html"><strong>Books by R. 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