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If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Ireland" title="Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Ireland">the discussion</a> and see a list of open tasks.<span class="metadata wpb-metadata"><span class="wpb-project">Ireland</span><span class="wpb-project_link">Wikipedia:WikiProject Ireland</span><span class="wpb-banner_name">Template:WikiProject Ireland</span><span class="wpb-assessment_cat">Ireland articles</span></span></td><td class="mbox-empty-cell"></td></tr></tbody></table></td></tr></tbody></table></td></tr></tbody></table> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Towns_in_Cork" data-mw-thread-id="h-Towns_in_Cork-2012-10-01T10:27:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Towns_in_Cork-2012-10-01T10:27:00.000Z"></span>Towns in Cork<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Towns_in_Cork-2012-10-01T10:27:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Template_talk:County_Cork&action=edit&section=1" title="Edit section: Towns in Cork"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-O'Dea-2012-10-01T10:27:00.000Z-Towns_in_Cork"></span>Towns exist which do not have town councils. Examples are <a href="/wiki/Kanturk" title="Kanturk">Kanturk</a> ("a <b>town</b> in the north west of County Cork" – Wikipedia), <a href="/wiki/Mitchelstown" title="Mitchelstown">Mitchelstown</a> ("a <b>town</b> in County Cork" – Wikipedia; second clue: the "town" suffix in the name, Mitchelstown), <a href="/wiki/Charleville" class="mw-disambig" title="Charleville">Charleville</a> ("a <b>town</b> in north County Cork" – Wikipedia), and Dunmanway ("a <b>town</b> in County Cork" – Wikipedia). In each of these cases, Wikipedia defines the towns as towns, which do not belong in the village section of the county template. Also, it is important to be civil to other editors in Wikipedia and not to make personal remarks or insult them in edit summaries (example: <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template%3ACounty_Cork&diff=515333002&oldid=515323348">"Which part of X do you not understand?"</a>). Please refer to <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Civility" title="Wikipedia:Civility">the official policy</a> on this matter. <a href="/wiki/File:Usher_statue_-_closeup.jpg" title="File:Usher statue - closeup.jpg"><span style="color:#2424BD;font-size:medium;font-family:Courier New;"><b>— O'Dea</b></span></a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:O%27Dea" class="mw-redirect" title="User talk:O'Dea">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template_talk:County_Cork#c-O'Dea-2012-10-01T10:27:00.000Z-Towns_in_Cork" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:27, 1 October 2012 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-O'Dea-2012-10-01T10:27:00.000Z-Towns_in_Cork"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-O'Dea-2012-10-01T10:27:00.000Z-Towns_in_Cork"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Asarlaí-2012-10-01T22:26:00.000Z-O'Dea-2012-10-01T10:27:00.000Z"></span>Firstly, <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:CIRCULAR" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:CIRCULAR">Wikipedia articles can't be uzed as sources</a>. Secondly, a settlement doesn't qualify as a town just by having the word "town" in its name. We can't hav editors or the general public making-up their own definitions of townhood; we must go by the government definition. In the 6 Counties, a town is <a href="/wiki/List_of_towns_and_villages_in_Northern_Ireland" title="List of towns and villages in Northern Ireland">any settlement with at least 4,500 dwellers</a>. What is the 26 County government's definition of a "town"? <a href="/wiki/User:Asarla%C3%AD" title="User:Asarlaí">~Asarlaí</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template_talk:County_Cork#c-Asarlaí-2012-10-01T22:26:00.000Z-O'Dea-2012-10-01T10:27:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:26, 1 October 2012 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Asarlaí-2012-10-01T22:26:00.000Z-O'Dea-2012-10-01T10:27:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Asarlaí-2012-10-01T22:26:00.000Z-O'Dea-2012-10-01T10:27:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-O'Dea-2012-10-01T22:35:00.000Z-Asarlaí-2012-10-01T22:26:00.000Z"></span>You cannot seriously say that Mitchelstown is a village. Have you ever been there? <a href="/wiki/File:Usher_statue_-_closeup.jpg" title="File:Usher statue - closeup.jpg"><span style="color:#2424BD;font-size:medium;font-family:Courier New;"><b>— O'Dea</b></span></a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:O%27Dea" class="mw-redirect" title="User talk:O'Dea">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template_talk:County_Cork#c-O'Dea-2012-10-01T22:35:00.000Z-Asarlaí-2012-10-01T22:26:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:35, 1 October 2012 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-O'Dea-2012-10-01T22:35:00.000Z-Asarlaí-2012-10-01T22:26:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-O'Dea-2012-10-01T22:35:00.000Z-Asarlaí-2012-10-01T22:26:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><dl><dd><small><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-The_Banner-2012-10-01T22:55:00.000Z-O'Dea-2012-10-01T22:35:00.000Z"></span>(<a href="/wiki/Help:Edit_conflict" title="Help:Edit conflict">edit conflict</a>)</small>Yes, I have been there. Yes, it is as big as a Dutch village. <abbr title="Smiling face" style="border-bottom: none;"><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/79/Face-smile.svg/18px-Face-smile.svg.png" decoding="async" width="18" height="18" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/79/Face-smile.svg/27px-Face-smile.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/79/Face-smile.svg/36px-Face-smile.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="48" data-file-height="48"/></span></span></abbr> But legally, it is not a town.</dd> <dd>See for the definition of a town (and other entities) the <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="http://www.oireachtas.ie/documents/bills28/acts/2001/a3701.pdf">Local Government Act 2001</a>. Pages 188 and 195-197 are the most interesting as they list the cities and towns. Mitchelstown is not listed as town or city. <a href="/wiki/User:The_Banner" title="User:The Banner"><span style="font-family:'Old English Text MT',serif;color:green">The Banner</span></a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:The_Banner" title="User talk:The Banner"><sub><i style="color:maroon">talk</i></sub></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template_talk:County_Cork#c-The_Banner-2012-10-01T22:55:00.000Z-O'Dea-2012-10-01T22:35:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:55, 1 October 2012 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-The_Banner-2012-10-01T22:55:00.000Z-O'Dea-2012-10-01T22:35:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-The_Banner-2012-10-01T22:55:00.000Z-O'Dea-2012-10-01T22:35:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-The_Banner-2012-10-01T22:59:00.000Z-The_Banner-2012-10-01T22:55:00.000Z"></span>See also: <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="http://census.cso.ie/censusasp/saps/boundaries/city-towns_bound.htm">Cities/Towns Boundaries as used for the Census</a>. <a href="/wiki/User:The_Banner" title="User:The Banner"><span style="font-family:'Old English Text MT',serif;color:green">The Banner</span></a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:The_Banner" title="User talk:The Banner"><sub><i style="color:maroon">talk</i></sub></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template_talk:County_Cork#c-The_Banner-2012-10-01T22:59:00.000Z-The_Banner-2012-10-01T22:55:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:59, 1 October 2012 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-The_Banner-2012-10-01T22:59:00.000Z-The_Banner-2012-10-01T22:55:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-The_Banner-2012-10-01T22:59:00.000Z-The_Banner-2012-10-01T22:55:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Asarlaí-2012-10-01T22:46:00.000Z-O'Dea-2012-10-01T22:35:00.000Z"></span>What I'm saying is that we need an official standard. We can't go about deciding what is and isn't a town willy-nilly. <a href="/wiki/User:Asarla%C3%AD" title="User:Asarlaí">~Asarlaí</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template_talk:County_Cork#c-Asarlaí-2012-10-01T22:46:00.000Z-O'Dea-2012-10-01T22:35:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:46, 1 October 2012 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Asarlaí-2012-10-01T22:46:00.000Z-O'Dea-2012-10-01T22:35:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Asarlaí-2012-10-01T22:46:00.000Z-O'Dea-2012-10-01T22:35:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-O'Dea-2012-10-03T16:41:00.000Z-Asarlaí-2012-10-01T22:46:00.000Z"></span>Thank you for the amusing irony, Asarlaí. You chided me for using Wikipedia as a source ("<a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:CIRCULAR" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:CIRCULAR">Wikipedia articles can't be uzed as sources</a>"), and proceeded to do it yourself ("a town is <a href="/wiki/List_of_towns_and_villages_in_Northern_Ireland" title="List of towns and villages in Northern Ireland">any settlement with at least 4,500 dwellers</a>"). <a href="/wiki/File:Usher_statue_-_closeup.jpg" title="File:Usher statue - closeup.jpg"><span style="color:#2424BD;font-size:medium;font-family:Courier New;"><b>— O'Dea</b></span></a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:O%27Dea" class="mw-redirect" title="User talk:O'Dea">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template_talk:County_Cork#c-O'Dea-2012-10-03T16:41:00.000Z-Asarlaí-2012-10-01T22:46:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:41, 3 October 2012 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-O'Dea-2012-10-03T16:41:00.000Z-Asarlaí-2012-10-01T22:46:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-O'Dea-2012-10-03T16:41:00.000Z-Asarlaí-2012-10-01T22:46:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Asarlaí-2012-10-03T18:10:00.000Z-O'Dea-2012-10-03T16:41:00.000Z"></span>As the article says, that's the definition given by the <a href="/wiki/Northern_Ireland_Statistics_and_Research_Agency" title="Northern Ireland Statistics and Research Agency">Northern Ireland Statistics and Research Agency</a> (NISRA). The source is NISRA, not a Wikipedia editor. <a href="/wiki/User:Asarla%C3%AD" title="User:Asarlaí">~Asarlaí</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template_talk:County_Cork#c-Asarlaí-2012-10-03T18:10:00.000Z-O'Dea-2012-10-03T16:41:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:10, 3 October 2012 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Asarlaí-2012-10-03T18:10:00.000Z-O'Dea-2012-10-03T16:41:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Asarlaí-2012-10-03T18:10:00.000Z-O'Dea-2012-10-03T16:41:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-O'Dea-2012-10-03T20:59:00.000Z-Asarlaí-2012-10-03T18:10:00.000Z"></span>And damn the citation provided, so it is "just" a Wikipedia statement. <a href="/wiki/File:Usher_statue_-_closeup.jpg" title="File:Usher statue - closeup.jpg"><span style="color:#2424BD;font-size:medium;font-family:Courier New;"><b>— O'Dea</b></span></a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:O%27Dea" class="mw-redirect" title="User talk:O'Dea">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template_talk:County_Cork#c-O'Dea-2012-10-03T20:59:00.000Z-Asarlaí-2012-10-03T18:10:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:59, 3 October 2012 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-O'Dea-2012-10-03T20:59:00.000Z-Asarlaí-2012-10-03T18:10:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-O'Dea-2012-10-03T20:59:00.000Z-Asarlaí-2012-10-03T18:10:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-O'Dea-2012-10-03T16:29:00.000Z-Towns_in_Cork"></span>Part 17 of the <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="http://www.irishstatutebook.ie/2001/en/act/pub/0037/print.html">Local Government Act, 2001</a>, section (2) (a) states, "Qualified electors of a town having a population of at least 7,500 as ascertained at the last preceding census or such other figure as the Minister may from time to time prescribe by regulations, and not having a town council, may make a proposal in accordance with paragraph (b) for the establishment of such a council." </p><p>Here we see that towns with populations of at least 7,500 may establish a town council. The Act does not say, however, that a settlement of fewer than 7,500 is not a town, nor that a town without a council is not a town, either. Indeed, the Central Statistics Office <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="http://www.cso.ie/en/media/csoie/census/documents/census_2006_Appendices.pdf">refers to as many as 664 towns in the state</a>, meaning an average of almost 26 towns per county. </p><p>The distinction between towns and villages is not always clear, as indicated by the opening of the Wikipedia <a href="/wiki/Town" title="Town">town article</a>: 'A town is a human settlement larger than a village but smaller than a city. The size definition for what constitutes a "town" varies considerably in different parts of the world, so that, for example, many "small towns" in the United States would be regarded as villages in the United Kingdom, while many British "small towns" would qualify as cities in the United States.' </p><p>I have consulted the <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="http://census.cso.ie/censusasp/saps/boundaries/city-towns_bound.htm">places defined as "towns and cities"</a> in County Cork by the Central Statistics Office to avoid being "willy-nilly", and they are as follows: Bandon, Bantry, Blarney, Carrigaline, Carrigtwohill, Charleville, Clonakilty, Cloyne, Cobh, Cork, Crosshaven, Dunmanway, Fermoy, Kanturk, Kinsale, Macroom, Mallow, Midleton, Millstreet, Mitchelstown, Passage West, Rathcormac, Skibbereen, Tower, and Youghal. I have adjusted the template accordingly. <a href="/wiki/File:Usher_statue_-_closeup.jpg" title="File:Usher statue - closeup.jpg"><span style="color:#2424BD;font-size:medium;font-family:Courier New;"><b>— O'Dea</b></span></a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:O%27Dea" class="mw-redirect" title="User talk:O'Dea">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template_talk:County_Cork#c-O'Dea-2012-10-03T16:29:00.000Z-Towns_in_Cork" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:29, 3 October 2012 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-O'Dea-2012-10-03T16:29:00.000Z-Towns_in_Cork"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-O'Dea-2012-10-03T16:29:00.000Z-Towns_in_Cork"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-The_Banner-2012-10-05T19:03:00.000Z-O'Dea-2012-10-03T16:29:00.000Z"></span>Don't you think that using the definition used bij the <b>law</b> is of greater value then that of the <i>statistics office</i>? <a href="/wiki/User:The_Banner" title="User:The Banner"><span style="font-family:'Old English Text MT',serif;color:green">The Banner</span></a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:The_Banner" title="User talk:The Banner"><sub><i style="color:maroon">talk</i></sub></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template_talk:County_Cork#c-The_Banner-2012-10-05T19:03:00.000Z-O'Dea-2012-10-03T16:29:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:03, 5 October 2012 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-The_Banner-2012-10-05T19:03:00.000Z-O'Dea-2012-10-03T16:29:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-The_Banner-2012-10-05T19:03:00.000Z-O'Dea-2012-10-03T16:29:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-O'Dea-2012-10-06T17:10:00.000Z-The_Banner-2012-10-05T19:03:00.000Z"></span>The law does not agree with the opinion you are advancing; towns without councils are recognised as valid towns. Things may be different in your country, but this is the case in Ireland. The Wikipedia <a href="/wiki/Town" title="Town">Town</a> article, section <a href="/wiki/Town#Ireland" title="Town">Town#Ireland</a>, already describes how the Irish Central Statistics Office offers an official administrative definition of "town". This entry in the article precedes our dispute, and I did not write it. Also, you were the one who cited the Central Statistics Office in your comment at 22:59, 1 October 2012, above, so it is inconsistent to argue, as you did in <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template%3ACounty_Cork&diff=516195755&oldid=515816193">your latest edit summary ("revert POV-editing")</a>, that the CSO <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template:County_Cork&diff=prev&oldid=515816193">definition cited in my edit summary</a> ("Adjusted places defined as "towns and cities" in County Cork by the Central Statistics Office (<a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="http://census.cso.ie/censusasp/saps/boundaries/city-towns_bound.htm">http://census.cso.ie/censusasp/saps/boundaries/city-towns_bound.htm</a>") is invalid. You are contradicting yourself. Please stop reverting corrective and officially verified edits to the template. <a href="/wiki/File:Usher_statue_-_closeup.jpg" title="File:Usher statue - closeup.jpg"><span style="color:#2424BD;font-size:medium;font-family:Courier New;"><b>— O'Dea</b></span></a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:O%27Dea" class="mw-redirect" title="User talk:O'Dea">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template_talk:County_Cork#c-O'Dea-2012-10-06T17:10:00.000Z-The_Banner-2012-10-05T19:03:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:10, 6 October 2012 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-O'Dea-2012-10-06T17:10:00.000Z-The_Banner-2012-10-05T19:03:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-O'Dea-2012-10-06T17:10:00.000Z-The_Banner-2012-10-05T19:03:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl>    </div><noscript><img src="https://login.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:CentralAutoLogin/start?type=1x1" alt="" width="1" height="1" style="border: none; position: absolute;"></noscript> <div class="printfooter" data-nosnippet="">Retrieved from "<a dir="ltr" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template_talk:County_Cork&oldid=1229432374">https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template_talk:County_Cork&oldid=1229432374</a>"</div></div> <div id="catlinks" class="catlinks" data-mw="interface"><div id="mw-normal-catlinks" class="mw-normal-catlinks"><a href="/wiki/Help:Category" title="Help:Category">Categories</a>: <ul><li><a href="/wiki/Category:Template-Class_Ireland_articles" title="Category:Template-Class Ireland articles">Template-Class Ireland articles</a></li><li><a href="/wiki/Category:NA-importance_Ireland_articles" title="Category:NA-importance Ireland articles">NA-importance Ireland articles</a></li><li><a href="/wiki/Category:Template-Class_Ireland_articles_of_NA-importance" title="Category:Template-Class Ireland articles of NA-importance">Template-Class Ireland articles of NA-importance</a></li><li><a href="/wiki/Category:All_WikiProject_Ireland_pages" title="Category:All WikiProject Ireland pages">All WikiProject Ireland pages</a></li></ul></div></div> </div> </main> </div> <div class="mw-footer-container"> <footer id="footer" class="mw-footer" > <ul id="footer-info"> <li id="footer-info-lastmod"> This page was last edited on 16 June 2024, at 19:50<span class="anonymous-show"> (UTC)</span>.</li> <li id="footer-info-copyright">Text is available under the <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Text_of_the_Creative_Commons_Attribution-ShareAlike_4.0_International_License" title="Wikipedia:Text of the Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike 4.0 International License">Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike 4.0 License</a>; additional terms may apply. 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